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Caller
How do I even start the baby steps when I am absolutely drowning and even trying to get caught up on my bills?
Dave Ramsey
Well, getting caught up would be the first step before you start the baby steps. You're right. You're onto something there. So why are you drowning?
Caller
I actually had some health issues over the past year. I've missed so much work. I've had to find another job because I believe my last job was killing me and that required a pay cut. And I'm working from home now, and it's just getting caught back up.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, well, you got the exact wrong solution for being behind on your bills, taking a pay cut. We want to go the other way. So what in the world? What's wrong with your health?
Caller
Well, I. My job was very unsteady while I was at. And they working from home to being pulled back into the office, and I just started having a bunch of anxiety attacks.
Dave Ramsey
And working in the office caused anxiety.
Caller
The people I was around. And then they started doing layoffs, and it was just a very stressful situation.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, what were you doing?
Caller
I do medical billing. My job is not hard.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, so that's what you were doing at the other place.
Caller
Correct. And that.
Dave Ramsey
And what were you being. What were you being paid?
Caller
I was being paid around 45. It wasn't a huge pay cut. I'm at about 40,000 now.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, and how much debt do you have?
Caller
I have about 120,000 without mortgage.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, and what's that on?
Caller
6,000 is about my medical debt. 14,687 for a boat. I have student loans and about. That's about 10,000. We have a truck. That's 37. Well, it's about 38,000. And then I have a Jeep. That's about 41,000. I have a credit card.
Dave Ramsey
You just said we. What's your husband make?
Caller
He makes about 70,000.
Dave Ramsey
Okay, so you have $110,000 income currently. All right, and you got a Jeep, a truck, a boat?
Caller
Yes, sir.
Dave Ramsey
And then what else was it? Student loan and a medical debt. And what else?
Caller
And two credit cards, and that's about 2,000.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
Caller
We do have IRS debt. Well, my husband does. So I say we. And I think that's probably about 8,000.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. All right. Yeah. Okay. But so your $5,000 pay cut didn't really cause you any trouble. It's all your overspending that's caused you trouble.
Caller
And I can agree to that.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah. So you're not gonna like me.
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You're not gonna like me. Sell the truck, sell the jeep, sell the boat.
Caller
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
Oh, I'm starting to get my life back now. I mean, you clear the majority of your debt. If you did that, what stopped you guys thus far from getting rid of these things that are crushing you?
Caller
I will say the boat. That is all we do is.
Dave Ramsey
I don't care. I think you should be one. Instead of boating, you're calling me talking about you're so stressed out you can't breathe, and you're $120,000 in debt. You. You can't afford a boat, you're broke. Go to the park and throw a Frisbee.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
You're not going to do any of this, are you? You're not really ready. You're not really in enough pain to fix this. You want an easy button? I don't have one. Honey, the only button I got is the one that'll work. I love you enough to tell you the truth. And the truth is you got to sell this crap. You've been spending like you're in Congress. And you're rationalizing and justifying and rationalizing and justifying. And only when you look up and go, I caused this and I can fix this. Or are you going to be able to fix it? I can tell from the tone of your voice you're not gonna do any of it. So when you're ready to be helped, we can help you. And we love you and we'll try to help you, but we're not gonna tell you what you want to hear. We're gonna tell you what really helps. And so we're really not known for telling. Telling people, making people feel good. That's not the point. We want you to feel good at 10 years from now. Not today. Today I want you to have pain so that you can get free of. Of this trashy life you have. Your life sucks. You make $110,000 in Columbia, South Carolina, and you gave up a job because of anxiety at the office. And really the anxiety was at home sitting in the driveway with a boat and a jeep and a truck. That's where it was. So, yeah, you just got a bunch of crap you can't afford. You're living like, you know, you're spending like you got money and you don't have any money. I'm sorry, honey, but we can help you when you're ready to do that. But you're gonna have to amputate some crap, and that'll give you your life back. Until you're ready to do that, though, I don't have an easy button for you. I can't help you create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Episode: "You Can't Afford A Boat, You're Broke!"
Date: January 4, 2026
Host: Dave Ramsey
Duration: ~10 minutes
In this episode, Dave Ramsey takes a call from a listener overwhelmed by debt and struggling to get back on track after health issues and a job change. The central theme is facing hard financial truths, making tough decisions, and the difference between a genuine desire for change versus looking for an "easy button." Dave delivers his trademark tough love, emphasizing personal responsibility and immediate action—especially when it comes to parting with status symbols like a boat, Jeep, and truck.
"But so your $5,000 pay cut didn't really cause you any trouble. It's all your overspending that's caused you trouble." (Dave Ramsey, 03:12)
"You're not gonna like me. Sell the truck, sell the jeep, sell the boat." (Dave Ramsey, 04:01)
"I think you should be one. Instead of boating, you're calling me talking about you're so stressed out you can't breathe, and you're $120,000 in debt. You can't afford a boat, you're broke. Go to the park and throw a Frisbee." (Dave Ramsey, 04:25)
"You're not going to do any of this, are you? You're not really ready. You're not really in enough pain to fix this. You want an easy button? I don't have one." (Dave Ramsey, 04:43)
"We want you to feel good at 10 years from now. Not today. Today I want you to have pain so that you can get free of this trashy life you have." (Dave Ramsey, 05:02)
"You've been spending like you're in Congress. And you're rationalizing and justifying and rationalizing and justifying. And only when you look up and go, 'I caused this and I can fix this,' are you going to be able to fix it." (Dave Ramsey, 04:53)
On Overspending:
"But so your $5,000 pay cut didn't really cause you any trouble. It's all your overspending that's caused you trouble."
(Dave Ramsey, 03:12)
On Cutting Ties with Unaffordable Toys:
"You're not gonna like me. Sell the truck, sell the jeep, sell the boat."
(Dave Ramsey, 04:01)
On Facing Hard Truths:
"You can't afford a boat, you're broke. Go to the park and throw a Frisbee."
(Dave Ramsey, 04:25)
On Readiness to Change:
"You're not going to do any of this, are you? You're not really ready. You're not really in enough pain to fix this. You want an easy button? I don't have one."
(Dave Ramsey, 04:43)
On Honest Guidance:
"We're not going to tell you what you want to hear. We're going to tell you what really helps."
(Dave Ramsey, 04:59)
On Lifestyle vs. Income:
"You're living like, you know, you're spending like you got money and you don't have any money."
(Dave Ramsey, 05:16)
This episode is a clear example of Dave Ramsey’s no-nonsense approach: real change requires brutal honesty and decisive action. Despite a six-figure household income, the caller’s financial stress is rooted in overspending and clinging to expensive possessions. Dave’s advice is simple yet hard—sell the toys, get serious, and stop looking for a shortcut. The message to listeners is clear: financial freedom starts when you stop justifying your current situation and start making uncomfortable, but necessary, choices.