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George
So I have been setting aside budgeting a couple dollars every month the last few years here towards an engagement ring. I will not likely be spending that money anytime soon. And so I was wondering if there's a better option. I mean, I'm sure there is, but I was wondering what your thoughts are on a better option or, you know, how to use this cash rather than just have it, you know, sitting in the drawer and losing value on rising rates and everything.
Ken
So there's no one in mind? You were just saving up?
George
Single as a Pringle.
Ken
Wow. Looking ahead.
Dan
Hold on a second. Did you say single as a Pringle? As in like a chip?
George
I did.
Dan
I gotta tell you, I've never heard that one before. It's very exciting. I apologize. My ADHD was flaring. Go ahead, George.
Ken
Doesn't take much to excite Ken these days.
Dan
Well, I like it. I've never heard that before. It's a good line, but it makes sense. I'm getting.
George
Thank you. Thank you.
Dan
Okay, so you're saving this money for a. So for a future lady in your life. You don't even. It doesn't even exist.
George
That is. That is the plan. She exists in prayer and thought, and that's about it right now.
Dan
Are there other things that you should be saving for?
George
I'm sure there are.
Ken
Do you have any debt?
George
Kind of.
Ken
I have a Dan, so I had.
Dan
A sense that it just didn't. Didn't add up. What do you. What do you have? What is. What is sort of. What does that mean?
George
Well, I have. I have about $41,000 in vehicle debt. And I say kind of because it's technically under my. I have a full time job, but I also have a side business, cleaning. Cleaning gum from public roadways and sidewalks and stadiums and all that jazz. And so the vehicle is technically under the business. But it is.
Ken
Dan, you signed the papers, not the imaginary business guy.
Dan
How big of a car do you need to get gum off the road?
George
It's a truck. Just to haul around the equipment.
Dan
Oh.
Ken
What's the truck worth?
George
The truck is worth. Check this morning. $58,000.
Dan
And what size truck is this?
George
It's a three quarter ton, so ran 2500.
Dan
And you need something that big to haul around the gum? Get her upper equipment.
George
No, not necessarily. I can downsize.
Dan
You see where we're going here? All right, George. Walking through Getting rid of this monster. He doesn't need this giant $50,000 truck for a side business that scoops gum up.
Ken
You're going to make what, 16 grand in profit that you could then use to pay cash for a used truck.
George
I could. Yep.
Ken
That's what I'd be doing if I'm.
Dan
Ding, ding.
Ken
Listen, if we're on a first date and you're telling me about your 50,000 gum truck, that's a red flag for me. You know what I mean?
George
I want. I. I totally understand. I've been. The reason I went with the, you know, I bought that vehicle as opposed to something used is just when I go to. To demos and meetings. I wanted a vehicle that was clean and looked nice.
Dan
Nobody cares.
George
No type of thing.
Dan
Nobody cares.
Ken
When I'm hiring gum guy, I'm not going. He better show up with a nice dually on that thing.
Dan
I'm hiring the one guy on the planet who's gonna get the gum off the street. They don't care what your truck looks like. In fact, they kind of expect you to drive. In fact, if I'm hiring a guy today to come get gum off the street, I kind of want to see the guy that's got a car with two tone paint on it. The bumper's beat up. I go, now that's a guy.
Ken
Well, and here's the reason.
Dan
Get that gum up.
Ken
Then I go, you know, he's not charging me for his truck payment as part of this. Yeah, I see a guy with a beat up truck ago, he's going to charge a fair price. I see a guy with a $50,000 truck ago, I'm getting taken to the cleaners.
Dan
Would you consider Dan getting this gum off the public streets? That's a dirty job. Have you heard of this concept? My friend Mike Rose got a very popular show called dirty jobs.
George
I've. I think it's from. I'm familiar with it, but I don't know much about it.
Dan
But would you consider what you do pretty dirty job? It's not a fun job.
George
You can be. Yeah.
Dan
All right. My point is, you don't need a fancy truck. We're trying to drive this home. So get rid of that. What's the car, what's the truck payment on that?
George
Yeah, y'all are gonna Love this. About 700 bucks a month.
Dan
There's your ring cost when we get the lovely lady in interested.
Ken
So sell the truck. Use the pro the proceeds to buy a used truck. You can use some of your savings if you need A, you know, a $17,000 truck if you really need it. And then whatever money's left over becomes your emergency fund. And let's start stacking money on top of that to get to three to six months of expenses. Then we can start investing. And any money beyond that, we can begin saving up for a ring in a separate account. But truthfully, I. I wouldn't even start saving until I meet this person.
Dan
Yeah, I agree, cuz you're making enough money to where you can cash flow a nice ring. That's what we're getting at.
Ken
Yeah, clearing that $700 payment. It's not going to take you long to save up another 10 grand for a ring.
Dan
Yeah, you got it, Dan.
Ken
We're talking a year and a half at that point. And you probably should be dating this person.
Dan
Yeah.
Ken
For a little while before making that kind of commitment.
Dan
Yeah, drop the truck code. You don't need a fancy schmancy truck. All right, get rid of the truck. Keep scooping the gum. Retained earnings. More profits are listening to the entree leadership podcast.
Ken
All right, he's got himself in a sticky situation, Ken.
Dan
Oh, there. I gotta say, folks, there's George.
Ken
I thought it was going to be all rainbows and gumdrops.
Dan
I'm supposed to do the dad jokes. Your dad now. So welcome.
Host
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Podcast Summary: "You Don’t Need A $58,000 Truck For That!"
Podcast Information:
In the episode titled "You Don’t Need A $58,000 Truck For That!", George, a listener, reaches out to seek financial advice regarding his substantial vehicle debt. The discussion is centered around his decision to invest in an expensive truck for his side business and explores more financially prudent alternatives.
George begins by explaining his financial strategy and the predicament he's currently facing.
"I have been setting aside budgeting a couple dollars every month the last few years here towards an engagement ring. I will not likely be spending that money anytime soon. And so I was wondering if there's a better option... how to use this cash rather than just have it, you know, sitting in the drawer and losing value on rising rates and everything."
George reveals that he's been saving modestly for an engagement ring but is concerned about the inefficiency of his savings strategy. His primary financial concern, however, revolves around his truck investment.
The conversation shifts to George's significant investment in a truck, which is central to his side business.
"Well, I have about $41,000 in vehicle debt. And I say kind of because it's technically under my... I have a full-time job, but I also have a side business, cleaning gum from public roadways and sidewalks and stadiums and all that jazz."
George owns a three-quarter ton truck, valued at $58,000 (as of the morning of the call), used to haul equipment for his gum-cleaning business. This truck has led to a substantial $41,000 vehicle debt.
Dan (02:15):
"How big of a car do you need to get gum off the road?"
George (02:20):
"It's a truck. Just to haul around the equipment."
George acknowledges that the current truck might be oversized for his actual needs, highlighting potential financial inefficiency.
Ken and Dan analyze George's situation, offering practical advice to optimize his finances.
Ken (03:02):
"That's what I'd be doing if I'm..."
Dan (03:05):
"Ding, ding."
They conclude that George doesn't need such an expensive truck for his business and suggest downsizing to save money.
Ken (03:25):
"Nobody cares [about the truck's appearance]."
Dan (03:26):
"Nobody cares."
George explains his preference for a clean and presentable vehicle for business meetings, but Ken and Dan argue that practicality should take precedence over appearance.
"Would you consider Dan getting this gum off the public streets? That's a dirty job."
They emphasize that the nature of George's business doesn't justify the high cost of the current truck. Instead, they recommend selling the truck to eliminate the hefty monthly payments.
"Sell the truck. Use the proceeds to buy a used truck. You can use some of your savings if you need a $17,000 truck if you really need it."
This strategy would not only reduce George's debt burden but also free up substantial funds for other financial goals, such as building an emergency fund and saving for a ring.
The advisors outline a clear roadmap for George to enhance his financial health.
"We're talking a year and a half at that point. And you probably should be dating this person."
They suggest that by eliminating the $700 monthly truck payment, George could quickly redirect funds towards savings and investments, setting him on a path to financial stability within a relatively short timeframe.
"Yeah, clearing that $700 payment. It's not going to take you long to save up another 10 grand for a ring."
Ken and Dan reiterate the importance of prioritizing financial obligations over non-essential expenditures, ensuring that George can achieve his financial goals more efficiently.
The episode underscores the importance of financial prudence, especially concerning business investments and personal expenditures.
Notable Quotes:
George (00:11):
"I was wondering what your thoughts are on a better option... how to use this cash rather than just have it... losing value on rising rates."
Dan (02:15):
"How big of a car do you need to get gum off the road?"
Ken (04:43):
"Sell the truck. Use the proceeds to buy a used truck."
Dan (05:22):
"Clearing that $700 payment. It's not going to take you long to save up another 10 grand for a ring."
The hosts encourage listeners to critically assess their financial decisions, especially large purchases that may not align with their long-term financial goals. By prioritizing essential expenditures and eliminating unnecessary debts, individuals can achieve greater financial freedom and security.
Conclusion: In "You Don’t Need A $58,000 Truck For That!", George learns valuable lessons on financial management from Ken and Dan. The episode serves as a reminder to evaluate the necessity and financial impact of significant purchases, ensuring they contribute positively to one's overall financial well-being.