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Nick
So I just recently purchased an engagement ring for my long term girlfriend. Hey, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Yeah, very excited and just looking forward to this next chapter. So. Yeah, so basically how I did it was I had an introductory credit card offer from the good people of bank of America. Exactly. There's some good people, I guess. But anyway, I received an offer promotional offer from bank of America where qualifying purchase through this new credit card would warrant a 0% interest on any debt that's paid within the first 60 days of purchasing and opening the credit card. I have no intentions of putting anything else on the credit card and essentially it's been purchased through the card and it's just a cash outflow question. As far as managing my monthly payments.
Dave Ramsey
I originally intended to how much is on the card?
Nick
So I currently owe 11,000 for the rig.
Dave Ramsey
How much money do you have in savings?
Nick
So I have about $25,000 in a high yield savings account.
Dave Ramsey
Write a check today and pay off the card and place scissors across it and cut it up.
Chris
Ta da. That's it.
Dave Ramsey
You shouldn't have done this. It was dumb. You did a sweet good thing, a dumb bad way. Mm. Dude, no one in the millionaire study that we said got rich by using zero interest credit cards and leaving their money in a high yield savings account on 11,000 freaking dollars. Do you know how much money you made in 60 days on this? Enough to buy a biscuit. You didn't make any money. You did all these mental gymnastics and burn all these calories thinking you were beating bank of America. Believe me, you don't beat bank of America. The only way you beat bank of America is stay away from them.
Nick
Okay?
Chris
Why does it make you nervous? You have $25,000 in the bank. You'll have 14 grand in cash left.
Nick
Yeah, I think the point I was thinking about it was if you get below the $25,000 deposit, it goes down to. I'm making about 4% yield on that savings account. It goes down to less than 1%.
Dave Ramsey
Let me ask you something.
Chris
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
What's 4% of $10,000? Do you know.
Nick
That would be what, $400? Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
Okay. Divided by 12.
Nick
Yeah. It'd be less than 40 bucks times two.
Dave Ramsey
You can't buy a pizza.
Chris
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
You're acting like this math matters. It doesn't matter. There's no math here that matters. There's not enough money and time involved for these interest rates to be relevant.
Chris
Yeah. How much do you make an hour right now at your job?
Nick
Well, I'm salaried, but I make probably about 3,500 paychecks.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah.
Chris
Okay, so this wasn't worth your hourly wage.
Dave Ramsey
The hours you have spent screwing with this in your mind, you made $1.16 on it per hour. Screwing with this paid off. Dude, dude, do not play with these snakes. They will bite you. This is a big, ugly snake called bank of America. Big, ugly snake. It will not only bite you, it will eat you and your future young. No, no, no, no, no, no. The good news is you've got the money to pay this off and still.
Chris
Have a whole bunch of.
Dave Ramsey
The bad news is I'm not sure I convinced you and you're still kind of. I don't know about do this or not. You need to do this, Nick. You. Because you don't want to be putting that ring on her finger and be going, thank you, bank of America. Gross. That makes me. I got a little throw up in my mouth right now.
Chris
Well, here's what's going to happen. She's going to say, well, hey, I want to do pony rides at the wedding, but they need a cash deposit. Or I want. And I don't know what people do at weddings. I don't know. George rolled in on a camel.
Dave Ramsey
I don't know what these youngsters is a camel.
Chris
I know, but these young weddings are out of control. But he's gonna have $25,000 in the bank in his sweet new fiance is going to say, hey, we need a cash deposit. He's going to give it to her and he's gonna say, okay, I'm just gon float this for one month. And that's going to float for one more month.
Dave Ramsey
This is what bank of America counts on.
Chris
That's exactly right.
Dave Ramsey
They're counting on. Once they've got your head in the noose, they pull the rope. Yeah, that's how it works. Create your free every dollar budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Podcast Summary: The Ramsey Show Highlights – "You Shouldn't Have Done This, It Was Dumb"
Release Date: May 20, 2025
Host: Ramsey Network
Duration: Under 10 minutes
In the episode titled "You Shouldn't Have Done This, It Was Dumb," the Ramsey Network delves into a listener's financial decision-making concerning a significant purchase—an engagement ring. Through an engaging conversation between Dave Ramsey, Nick (the caller), and co-host Chris, the episode explores the pitfalls of leveraging credit cards for large expenditures, even when promotional offers like 0% interest are available.
Nick’s Situation (00:06 - 01:22):
Nick reaches out to the show excited about his recent engagement and the purchase of an $11,000 engagement ring. He explains his financing strategy:
Key Quote:
Nick explains, "[...] it's been purchased through the card and it's just a cash outflow question as far as managing my monthly payments." (00:06)
Initial Assessment (01:09 - 02:12):
Dave Ramsey probes deeper into Nick's financial setup by inquiring about his savings and current credit card debt. Upon learning Nick owes $11,000 and has $25,000 saved, Ramsey reacts decisively.
Key Quote:
Dave asserts, "You shouldn't have done this. It was dumb. You did a sweet good thing, a dumb bad way." (01:27)
Core Arguments:
Ineffective Financial Strategy: Ramsey emphasizes that none of the millionaires in his study have utilized zero-interest credit cards paired with high-yield savings accounts for large purchases. He underscores that the minimal financial gain from such arrangements is negligible compared to potential risks.
Minimal Interest Earnings vs. Effort: Highlighting the meager returns, Ramsey points out that the $400 earned from a 4% yield on $10,000 equates to less than $40 monthly—insufficient to justify the mental and temporal investment.
Supporting Quote:
"There's not enough money and time involved for these interest rates to be relevant." (02:52)
Further Analysis (02:35 - 04:28):
Chris supplements Dave’s critique by breaking down the actual financial returns versus the opportunity cost of Nick's time and effort.
Key Points:
Hourly Wage Comparison: Calculating Nick’s earnings relative to his salaried position, Chris deduces that Nick made a mere $1.16 per hour by engaging in this financial maneuver.
Risk Assessment: Both hosts express concern over the reliance on financial institutions like Bank of America, branding them as "big, ugly snakes" that exploit such financial tactics, potentially jeopardizing Nick's financial future.
Practical Implications: They predict scenarios where Nick might need to use his savings due to unforeseen wedding expenses, further stressing the importance of maintaining liquidity over chasing minimal interest gains.
Key Quotes:
Chris states, "The hours you have spent screwing with this in your mind, you made $1.16 on it per hour." (03:16)
Dave warns, "[...] Big, ugly snake called bank of America. It will not only bite you, it will eat you and your future young." (03:27)
Call to Action (04:28 - End):
Despite intense discussions, Ramsey notes that Nick remains somewhat hesitant. He reiterates the importance of avoiding unnecessary financial risks and safeguarding his substantial savings. Ramsey closes by promoting the EveryDollar budget tool as a means to simplify financial management and prevent such pitfalls.
Key Quote:
Dave passionately advises, "Do not play with these snakes. They will bite you." (03:16)
Avoid Complex Financial Strategies for Large Purchases: Even with promotional offers, leveraging credit cards for significant expenditures like engagement rings can introduce unnecessary risks and stress.
Value Time Over Minimal Financial Gains: The negligible interest earned from high-yield savings does not compensate for the time and mental energy expended in managing such financial maneuvers.
Maintain Financial Simplicity and Liquidity: Keeping substantial savings accessible without dipping into them ensures preparedness for unplanned expenses and long-term financial stability.
Beware of Financial Institutions’ Enticements: Promotional offers from banks often come with hidden complexities that may not align with prudent financial planning.
This episode serves as a cautionary tale against overcomplicating financial decisions in the pursuit of minor gains. Dave Ramsey and Chris provide a clear, no-nonsense perspective on maintaining financial integrity by avoiding high-risk strategies, emphasizing the importance of straightforward budgeting and saving. Listeners are encouraged to prioritize long-term financial health over short-term financial tinkering.
For more insightful discussions and practical financial advice, tune into The Ramsey Show Highlights, available seven days a week through the Ramsey Network.