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Caller
Today, my wife and I are starting over back in baby step number two, and she feels our budget is too restrictive without any room for fun money. And so my question is, what amount of our income should we budget for while in baby step two? And how do I get her fully on board without making her feel, quote unquote, controlled?
John Deloney
Why are you starting over?
Caller
Yeah. So in 2023, we took FPU through our church, and we had a really great success with it. Got off all of our debt besides one vehicle, and at the time, our house, we hadn't moved in yet, but we had a house also that was in the future. And anyways, yeah, so unfortunately, what happened was my wife started to kind of feel very controlled. And because she was not able to say yes to things like giving gifts for baby showers and not able to go out to eat for, you know, dinner with friends and stuff. And so she found herself always kind of calling me and being like, well, can we do this thing for $50? And I was like, it's not in the budget. And so then she started to kind of, you know, get mad at me as her, you know, spouse.
Dave Ramsey
So it sounds like you did a budget and told her what to do.
John Deloney
Yeah. What's different this time?
Caller
Yeah. Well, so ultimately, since then, we've had a baby boy who was born in 23. 2023. And we have another baby that is coming in May, at the end of May. And so we're really excited. Yes. But ultimately, I am. I'm freaking out. And I've told her many, many times about this, and I said, listen, like, we need to. We need to do something. And I, you know, John Deloney said it great. He said, I feel like a gazelle that is anchored down, and that's genuinely, like, how I feel. Right.
John Deloney
But what changed with your wife? We know how you feel.
Dave Ramsey
She's never been on board.
Caller
Yeah, it's. It's always been kind of my idea to do this. And she's been supportive at times.
Dave Ramsey
No, she's not.
John Deloney
It's only to a point. Right. She doesn't want to feel that until she hears.
Dave Ramsey
Until she hears the word no. She's supportive. She's not involved at all.
John Deloney
Can you tell us more what the debt is and your income so we can see a clearer picture?
Caller
Yeah, yeah, the debt's pretty bad. So credit card debt. We have 19,300.
John Deloney
Okay.
Caller
Cars were at 64,000.
John Deloney
Can you break them down one and two?
Caller
Yeah. Yep. Car one is 27,000 and car two is 37,000.
John Deloney
Okay.
Dave Ramsey
R2 is hers. And you bought it since you went through fpu?
Caller
Yes, that is correct.
John Deloney
Is it minivan?
Caller
Yes. No, it's a Tesla.
John Deloney
Okay. And can you tell me what they're worth? What's the 27,000 $1 worth?
Caller
I. I don't, I, I don't know. I think the 27,000 $1 is a Hyundai Santa Fe. So it's probably 18 to 20. Okay.
Dave Ramsey
Did you have that prior to MPU?
Caller
Yes.
Dave Ramsey
Okay.
John Deloney
And the 37, what do you think? It's fairly new.
Caller
It's. Yeah, it's fairly new. It's probably, you probably could get 28 for it to 30.
Dave Ramsey
So Hayden, here's the deal. Okay. She's not involved in this at all emotionally. And so you've become her parent and she doesn't like it when you tell her no, she can't go to the movies. No, I can't do this. And you're getting tired of being the parent. So ultimately you two probably need marriage counseling. You need to sit down with somebody. Not because of FPU and not because of Ramsey stuff, but because you're the only grown up and you're trying to raise a kid now and it's freaking you out. And it's good that you are freaked out because you need to address this issue. And so she's. Because a part of that goes all the way back to when you all were in Financial Peace University. She went against her will because her husband begged her to. And she loves her husband and she wanted to try to do what he wanted to do. She went in there and listened. But she did not buy into a different future that you saw. And once she gets the why you're willing wanting to do this, why you're wanting to do this, why you're freaking out, then the how will change. But until she's in agreement with you about the future vision of where we want to go and why we want to go there, you're not, you're going to struggle and you know, you didn't have the marital chops to defeat a $37,000 car purchase. That was absolutely asinine. It's asinine.
Caller
Yeah.
Dave Ramsey
And you knew it when you did it, but you went along with it. Trying to make someone happy by buying them stuff. And it doesn't work. It doesn't work. So if you can't get with her and the two of you say, say number one, I'm freaked out, honey, I'm carrying All the stress and all the load of these ridiculous purchases that I have allowed to be made in this house. And. And I'm freaking out and I'm not doing it anymore. Number one. Number two, the two of us need to start thinking about what our future looks like in HD and what it's going to take for us to get to that future. If we cannot get aligned on that in the next 10 days, we need to sit down with a marriage counselor because I'm not going to be your daddy until you know anymore.
Caller
And.
Dave Ramsey
And I'm not going to participate in a situation where you're whining to your daddy that his budget is too restrictive because you're imposing this on her. And she's not got any adult ownership in the sacrifice that has to occur for you all to swim on this because you need to sell her car yesterday. It should have never been purchased. And you guys need to get on beans and rice, Rice and beans. And don't talk to me about baby showers when you've got dead up around your neck and you got a one year old. The only baby shower. Showering this kid in food and diapers. That's it.
John Deloney
Right?
Dave Ramsey
Your kid, not other people's kids. And don't talk to me about your Instagram life. I couldn't give a crap less about your Instagram life, but that's. That. That's. That's me being mean and forceful because that's what I see in your lives. You guys have. You guys, you. You've got to want a bright future more than you want a false present.
John Deloney
That's right. Yeah. My guess is there's something behind this. I think Dave is right. You go to counseling, you're going to figure out what that is because there is something stopping her from wanting to go all in on this. And usually we see Dave, that kids kind of trigger something in you. It's not done that for her. So my guess is there's something deeper in here. And I do think that counseling is going to reveal that. But at the end of the day, like, we're the only ones that can change. You can't make somebody change, so she's got to get. Get on to it.
Dave Ramsey
Yeah, but you've been talking about what way too much and not why, why. And you've got to work on that. And then she's going to have to take an adult position in this relationship where we sacrifice together for the greater good of our overall family. Not I want something. You got a long life. You don't fix this dude. This is the Ramsey Show. Create your free everydollar Budget today. The simplest way to budget for your life.
Summary of "You're Treating Your Wife Like You're Her Daddy" – The Ramsey Show Highlights
Release Date: May 24, 2025
Host: Ramsey Network
Episode Title: "You're Treating Your Wife Like You're Her Daddy"
In this insightful episode of The Ramsey Show Highlights, the Ramsey Network delves into the complexities of financial management within a marriage. Titled "You're Treating Your Wife Like You're Her Daddy," the episode features a heartfelt caller seeking guidance on navigating budgeting challenges while maintaining a harmonious relationship with his wife. Host Dave Ramsey, alongside expert John Deloney, provides practical advice aimed at fostering financial unity and mutual respect between spouses.
The caller begins by expressing concerns about his and his wife's financial journey. They had previously participated in Financial Peace University (FPU) through their church, successfully eliminating most of their debt except for one vehicle. However, recent events have strained their financial harmony.
Additionally, the couple welcomed a baby boy in 2023 and is expecting another child in May 2025, adding to their financial and emotional stress.
The primary issue revolves around the caller's approach to budgeting, which his wife perceives as overly restrictive and controlling. She feels limited in spending on gifts, dining out, and other social activities, leading to frequent conflicts.
Dave Ramsey and John Deloney provide a comprehensive analysis of the situation, emphasizing the importance of mutual agreement and open communication in financial planning.
Dave Ramsey identifies that the core issue is not merely the budget's restrictiveness but the lack of his wife's buy-in and emotional involvement.
Both experts advocate for marriage counseling to address underlying issues beyond financial disagreements.
Dave Ramsey (05:57):
"You two probably need marriage counseling. You need to sit down with somebody... because you're the only grown up and you're trying to raise a kid now and it's freaking you out."
John Deloney (06:35):
"My guess is there's something behind this... counseling is going to reveal that. But at the end of the day, like, we're the only ones that can change."
Ramsey stresses the importance of both partners aligning their visions for the future to ensure cohesive financial planning.
While addressing the emotional aspects, Ramsey also provides practical steps to manage the current financial strain.
Ramsey's Recommendations:
Dave Ramsey (05:58):
"And I'm not going to participate in a situation where you're whining to your daddy that his budget is too restrictive because you're imposing this on her."
John Deloney suggests that financial disagreements often mask deeper relational issues. He believes that counseling will help uncover underlying emotions and foster better understanding between spouses.
Ramsey echoes this sentiment, highlighting that without addressing these deeper issues, financial plans are likely to falter.
Dave Ramsey (01:57):
"I feel like a gazelle that is anchored down, and that's genuinely, like, how I feel."
Dave Ramsey (05:02):
"She's never been on board... you've become her parent and she doesn't like it when you tell her no."
John Deloney (06:35):
"There's something behind this... counseling is going to reveal that."
Dave Ramsey (06:58):
"You've got to want a bright future more than you want a false present."
"You're Treating Your Wife Like You're Her Daddy" offers valuable insights into the intersection of financial management and marital relationships. Key takeaways from the episode include:
Open Communication is Essential: Both partners must actively engage in budgeting and financial planning to prevent feelings of control and resentment.
Seek Professional Help When Needed: Marriage counseling can be instrumental in resolving deeper emotional conflicts that affect financial harmony.
Align on Shared Goals: Establishing a mutual vision for the future ensures that both spouses are working towards the same objectives, reducing friction.
Practical Financial Steps: Prioritizing debt repayment, adopting frugal living temporarily, and minimizing discretionary spending can alleviate financial stress.
Emotional Involvement Matters: Financial planning is not just about numbers; emotional buy-in from both partners is crucial for sustained success.
By addressing both the practical and emotional aspects of financial management, listeners can cultivate healthier financial habits and stronger marital relationships.
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