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Dave Ramsey (0:04)

Brought to you by the EveryDollar app. Start budgeting for free today. Normal is broke and common sense is weird. So we're here to help you transform your life. From the Ramsey Network in the Fair Winds Credit Union studio, this is the Ramsey Show. I'm Dave Ramsey, your host, Rachel Cruze, number one best selling author, Ramsey personality, host of the Rachel Cruze, my daughter, she's my co host today. Open phones here at 888-825-5225. Before we go to the phones, we're just going to take a second and get off format a little bit off format because some of you will hear all of this in another day or so. Some of you that listen on podcasts and things, you might hear it two weeks from now. But acknowledging that we do do this show live from 1 to 4 Central Time every day on, on the glass in the lobby of Ramsey Solutions. And people, nice people are out there right now watching us do it, which means they really need to get a hobby. But there they are.

Rachel Cruze (1:12)

I love y'. All.

Dave Ramsey (1:13)

We love you. We love you. But I mean, come on, really. And so, but the anyway, you're here and thank you for hanging out with us. We got free coffee and free cookies. So that makes it all worthwhile. So anyway, because of that and the show is on 680 talk radio stations. Many of those are live. And so just to let you guys that are listening two weeks from now understand what's going on, so at the moment we're recording this, it is September 11th. And so which I noticed the other day, I noticed a minute ago, it's called Patriots Day. I missed that somehow that it had been named. But the acknowledgment of the terror attacks on the towers, bringing the towers down and the Pentagon. And the Pentagon and 3,000 plus almost 4,000 people losing their lives, including first responders in very short period of time. Largest death toll on American soil since Pearl Harbor. And I was actually on the air then when that occurred. This show's been on the air for 30 plus years. We were obviously in a different location with a microphone that was not this nice. But because we were, I guess it.

Rachel Cruze (2:23)

Would be later that day because they were at 9:30am we were in the.

Dave Ramsey (2:26)

Office in staff meeting and the 8:30am our time.

Rachel Cruze (2:29)

That's right, that's right.

Dave Ramsey (2:31)

And 8:35 is when we sat and watched the second one live on television and going to the towers. And then we've got to decide with a show like this, what are we going to do in the middle of something like that, because we're basically useless. We're not a news organization. And so we got in touch with our friends at ABC because they were. They're in charge of the satellite that we run this thing on for talk radio. And we got their permission to just put their news feed on our network. And we did that for two days and just shut our show down. Because me commenting on that would have been taking about five minutes. And then I wouldn't have anything intelligent to say because I didn't know anything. Nobody knew anything. I was just a regular dude on a microphone in Nashville, Tennessee. And so I didn't need to try to play into that. So we stepped aside and let them cover it for a couple days. And then I got back on on Friday. The stock market reopened on Tuesday following.

Summary

The Ramsey Show – Episode Summary

Episode Title: When You Feel Overwhelmed, Control the Controllables
Air Date: September 12, 2025
Host(s): Dave Ramsey & Rachel Cruze

Overview

This episode, recorded on September 11, 2025, focuses on the importance of recognizing what is outside of our control—whether in the world or our personal finances—while emphasizing actionable steps to handle what we can control. The hosts take live calls from listeners about a variety of topics, including paying off debt, marriage and money, saving for large expenses, and navigating big life transitions. The episode is interspersed with heartfelt reflections on the significance of 9/11 and the recent tragic loss of a friend, layered with advice about resilience, financial planning, and intentional living.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reflecting on 9/11 and Dealing With Evil ([00:04]–[07:08])

Dave and Rachel open with reflections on the September 11th anniversary, recalling the massive impact on the nation and drawing parallels to recent tragic events.
- Dave shares the challenges of broadcasting during national crises:
  
  "We spent all our time...teaching you to control the things you can control. Yeah, you can't control that, but you can control how you react."
  —Dave Ramsey [06:00]
- Emphasizes worldview: evil exists in the world, and there will be things you cannot control, but how you react is always up to you.
- Calls listeners to “control the controllables” in their own lives, both financially and emotionally.

2. Controlling Personal Finances – Listener Calls

a. Bob Borquez's 25-Year Retirement Tribute ([10:33])

Celebrating Bob Borquez’s 25 years with Ramsey, highlighting the importance of key people in lifelong success.
"You don’t build something of this magnitude without thoroughbreds, and Bob’s a full-blown...won the Kentucky Derby level."
—Dave Ramsey [12:16]

b. Prioritizing Debt Payoff – Mark’s Plan ([12:36])

Mark (28, $100K earnings, mortgage + HELOC + car loan) asks about debt payoff order.
Rachel and Dave:
- Pay off consumer debt first (car, then HELOC), mortgage last.
- Use the baby steps—attack smallest debts first for momentum.
- "I made so many bad [financial decisions] that it gave me a PhD in dumb…"
  —Dave Ramsey [07:43]

c. Graduating Baby Step 4 – Melissa's Military Family ([16:20])

Melissa’s spouse is retiring from the military; she asks about reallocating retirement savings after years of renting.
Dave:
- No “graduating” baby step 4. After debt and emergency fund, always invest 15% for retirement, save up a down payment, and then go back to retirement investing after home purchase.
- "You never graduate from [having fun, investing, generosity]."
  —Dave Ramsey [19:11]

d. Managing a Windfall from Family Business Sale – Mary in Virginia ([22:16])

Mary anticipates $500K over the next 5 years, husband heading to med school on military funding.
Dave's plan:
- Use lump sum to pay off home once they know if they're staying put.
- Invest the remainder (mutual funds, low-turnover funds) and pull income as needed—don’t touch principal.
- "Leave the goose that lays the golden egg alone."
  —Dave Ramsey [28:09]

e. Overwhelmed and in Debt – Jim, 26, in Texas ([34:29])

Jim is $500K in debt (mortgage, cars, $80K credit cards, IRS bill), has not involved his wife in finances.
Ramsey’s blunt blueprint:
- Full transparency, joint planning—no more “daddy/daughter” dynamic.
- List debts, cut up cards, attack smallest balances, new habits as a couple.
- "You’re like a daddy spoiling his only daughter. Instead, you’re gonna say, honey, let’s sit down like grownups..."
  —Dave Ramsey [38:35]
- "Surrender. You got plenty of time. You make a lot of money—you guys could be multimillionaires."
  —Rachel Cruze [42:46]

f. Running a Small Business & Tax Planning – Cheryl in Atlanta ([45:05])

Cheryl, owner of a cleaning service, did not save for taxes, wants to qualify for a home.
Advice:
- Separate personal and business finances; pay quarterly estimates.
- Only write off actual expenses, not “ghost” expenses.
- "You might have been paying some on your taxes, but what I just described to you is the way to do it."
  —Dave Ramsey [50:51]

g. Career Change After Debt-Free – Dalton in South Carolina ([55:28])

Dalton, 25, Ford dealership technician, considering career change to aviation mechanic.
Dave’s decision matrix:
- Only change if it’s to make more, not less, money.
- Willing to move houses/cities for better opportunities.
- "Make your dream a dream, not a nightmare. Lay it out—up and to the right."
  —Dave Ramsey [61:17]

h. Managing Out-of-State Rental after Job Relocation – Darren ([62:10])

Paid off $215K in 22 months, owns a home in another city after relocation.
Dave: Sell the property rather than being a long-distance landlord.
- "Long distance landlording is not really a good plan… That’s how people change Harley oil in your living room."
  —Dave Ramsey [63:23]

i. Quick Sale of a Bad Motorcycle Purchase – Trey ([66:49])

Trey, 23, upside-down on a motorcycle after wreck, wants to know if he should drain his emergency fund to sell the bike.
Dave: Yes, cut your losses and learn from it.
- "The sooner we cut bait, the sooner this fish is gone, man."
  —Dave Ramsey [69:54]
- "If I do something dumb again, it needs to be a new dumb thing."
  —Dave Ramsey [72:25]

j. Joint Accounts and Building Trust in Marriage – Mia in Georgia ([75:48])

Mia wants to combine finances after 13 years of separate accounts; husband resists due to trust.
Solution:
- Build a joint budget for full transparency; both parties approve all spending.
- Joint finances foster unity and are a key factor in wealth-building and marital health.
- "When you work together, very detailed together, with a cooperative spouse—that’s how you become millionaires.”
  —Dave Ramsey [79:59]
- “I long to do this marriage in a deeper, more beautiful, unified way. And this is a symbol of that.”
  —Rachel Cruze [82:30]

k. Is It Okay to Cut Back on Saving to Travel? – Donovan in San Jose ([86:42])

Donovan & wife invest 43% of $175K income, wife wants to travel to Europe.
Both investing and enjoying your life are important; find a balance.
- “You need to constantly, with a rhythm, be enjoying your money, investing your money, and being generous with your money.”
  —Dave Ramsey [92:00]
- Rachel: “Don't make this pattern—make sure the contentment is being talked about, too.”
  —Rachel Cruze [92:52]

l. How to Pay for Wedding While Digging Out of Debt – Jimmy in Arizona ([107:35])

Jimmy (30) & girlfriend (28) have $87K in debt (mostly to parents), good jobs, live together, want to marry but worry about affordability.
Dave recommends:
- Simple courthouse wedding now, big party/reception later; pause debt snowball for a modest ring.
- Open communication with parents; let them host the wedding if they choose.
- “Go get married… and have the party later after you clean up some of this debt.”
  —Dave Ramsey [112:11]

m. Planning for Elder Care and Debt – Heather, 82 ([117:40])

Widow, no debts except $16K for windows (no interest due for 16 months), living comfortably on pension and Social Security.
Advice:
- Pay off interest-free debt soon to avoid back-charged interest.
- For nursing care, in-home care is often preferable; assess costs and prepare for possibilities.
- "If you have to have two [caregivers], that's still going to be cheaper than a nursing home.”
  —Dave Ramsey [122:22]

n. Saving for a Home vs. Replacing an Old Car – Emma in Washington ([101:38])

Emma (homeschooling mom, 4th child on way) has an old van with transmission issues and an $11K emergency fund (no separate down payment).
Advice:
- Emergency fund comes first; neither buy a home nor a new car until there's cash beyond the safety net.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“I made so many bad [financial decisions] that it gave me a PhD in dumb… I know exactly what stupid looks like.” —Dave Ramsey [07:43]
“You’re not a victim of circumstances, and you’re not a victim of systemic evil… much of what happens in your destiny is up to you.” —Dave Ramsey [06:43]
“Surrender… You got plenty of time. You make a lot of money—you guys could be multimillionaires.” —Rachel Cruze to Jim, on getting out of debt [42:46]
“Leave the goose that lays the golden egg alone.” —Dave Ramsey [28:09]
“When we surveyed 10,167 millionaires… 89% said they became millionaires because of working together with a spouse.” —Dave Ramsey [79:59]
“Make your dream a dream, not a nightmare. Lay it out—up and to the right.” —Dave Ramsey [61:17]
“I want to be real careful. If we take another leg off the goose, the goose is cooked.” —Dave Ramsey [30:01]

Timestamps for Important Segments

| Segment Description | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|-------------------| | Opening reflections on 9/11/evil in the world | [00:04]–[07:08] | | Tribute to team member Bob Borquez | [10:33] | | Mark’s debt snowball question | [12:36] | | Melissa’s baby step 4/retirement question | [16:20] | | Mary’s windfall/family business – med school | [22:16] | | Jim: Overwhelmed with debt; involving spouse | [34:29] | | Cheryl: Business taxes & keeping records | [45:05] | | Dalton: Debt-free, career change after dealership | [55:28] | | Darren: Out-of-state rental after job move | [62:10] | | Trey: Upside-down motorcycle; selling quickly | [66:49] | | Mia: Joint accounts & marital trust | [75:48] | | Donovan: Investing vs. travel; balance in marriage | [86:42] | | Jimmy: Paying for wedding while still in debt | [107:35] | | Heather: Elder care planning & no-interest debt | [117:40] | | Emma: Van replacement or home savings? | [101:38] |

Tone & Style

Direct, candid, and often humorous.
Blunt and clear advice, mixed with empathy: “That’s dumber than a rock… But I’ve done dumber.”
Encouragement: “You’ve got plenty of time, you can do this.”
Faith-based worldview: reminders of prayer, perspective, and stewardship.

Core Takeaways

Life throws curveballs: Control how you respond; take care of your family, mind your business and financial house, and let go of what you can’t manage.
Financial success is built on small, consistent choices (the ‘controllables’): Budget, eliminate debt, involve your partner, and live below your means.
Communication and partnership in finances are critical for both marital unity and wealth building.
Don’t sacrifice your future for present comforts or pleasurable purchases—focus on the bigger picture and pace your progress.
Learn from mistakes—yours and others’—and don’t repeat them.

This comprehensive summary covers the heart of Dave and Rachel’s advice, the episode’s narrative flow, and concrete action steps for a variety of financial and life scenarios discussed by callers.