Co-Founder Deanna joins us for a conversation about the modern classroom from the perspective of the late public school teacher and education activist John Taylor Gatto.

We talk about a speech he gave, republished in his book "Dumbing Us Down," in which he details the real lessons he taught his students by working within the classroom system, lessons like confusion, emotional and intellectual dependency, and indifference.

If you'd like to read the speech yourself, you can find it here:
http://the7lessonteacher.com/

You can find more information about John Taylor Gatto here:
https://www.johntaylorgatto.com/

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