Letting A Lesbian Go

Summary

Episode Summary: "Letting A Lesbian Go"

Release Date: October 24, 2024 Podcast: The Read by Loud Speakers Network

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1. Personal Updates: Navigating Life in New York City

Host A (Kid Fury) and Host B (Crissle) kick off the episode by sharing their recent experiences adjusting to life in New York City. Kid Fury recounts a minor accident that led to a swollen foot, impacting her mobility and causing heightened anxiety.

• Kid Fury (00:22): "I slipped on my bedroom sheet and rolled my toes over in a way that, like, holds something. So my foot was so swollen."

• Crissle (02:07): "Yesterday was so painful. I just had to stay off."

They delve into how anxiety manifests in their daily lives, emphasizing coping strategies and the importance of managing emotions.

• Kid Fury (02:30): "Anxiety isn't a villain. She's just a little concerned and she takes it a little too far."

2. Pet Talk: Lainey the Dog's Training Journey

The hosts discuss Crissle's adorable puppy, Lainey, highlighting her progress in potty training and her growing ability to communicate her needs.

• Crissle (03:10): "She's learning to bark when she needs to go outside. She'll look towards the door like, 'Do you know you have 30 seconds, ladies?'"

They share humorous anecdotes about Lainey's antics and the challenges of training a young dog in a bustling city environment.

• Kid Fury (04:01): "If Lainey could do that, if she had access to the door, she would."

3. Black Excellence Spotlight: Yamile Toussaint's STEM from Dance

Highlighting stories of black excellence, Kid Fury introduces Yamile Toussaint, a mechanical engineering graduate from MIT who founded "STEM from Dance." This nonprofit bridges creativity and technical education by integrating dance with STEM principles.

• Kid Fury (07:58): "Yamile started a nonprofit called STEM from Dance. It's a program that bridges the gap between being creative and all the technical expertise you get in STEM."

Yamile's innovative approach uses dance workshops to teach girls coding, robotics, and engineering, culminating in performances that showcase their combined skills.

• Crissle (11:47): "Making it relevant to my life. Exactly."

4. Pop Culture Roundup: From Drag Race to Celebrity Losses

The hosts transition into their pop culture segment, discussing the latest season of RuPaul's Drag Race and its star-studded guest judges.

• Kid Fury (00:10): "Like Katy Perry, Dochi, Sam Smith, Adam Lambert, and more."

They reflect on the tragic passing of Liam Payne from One Direction, sharing their personal reactions and memories associated with the band.

• Crissle (15:01): "Liam Payne's passing gagged me because I didn't even know his face."

Additionally, they touch upon the BET Hip Hop Awards, critiquing its recent trends and the absence of traditional hip-hop artists in favor of personalities.

• Kid Fury (21:14): "Having them go rap but they were people that weren't rappers."

5. Listener Letters: Relationship Breakups and Friendship Boundaries

Letter from Tina: A 28-year-old lesbian grapples with ending a two-year relationship. Tina shares her struggles with her ex-partner's vague intentions and the emotional toll of perceived infidelity.

• Tina: "How do I respect her boundary of going no contact while also wanting to absolutely blow up on her?"

Hosts' Response:

• Kid Fury (72:06): "You need to move on from this person and that relationship."

• Crissle (75:30): "Stop contacting her. It's over."

Letter from Tone: Tone describes a situation where a friend damaged her personal belongings, leading to tension and reevaluation of their friendship.

• Tone: "He threw away two of my forks. I can't find them anywhere."

Hosts' Response:

• Kid Fury (85:08): "Set boundaries and communicate your feelings directly."

• Crissle (86:43): "Don't let it slide. Address the issue when it happens."

6. Reality TV Critique: Baddies vs. Bad Girls Club

The hosts express their concerns over the reality show Baddies, comparing it unfavorably to Bad Girls Club. They argue that Baddies deliberately cultivates conflict among participants to boost viewership, without implementing sufficient measures to prevent real harm.

• Kid Fury (93:46): "Baddies is the exact opposite of Bad Girls Club. It's crafted so you must fight someone to stay on the show."

• Crissle (96:41): "These girls are going to extremes because the show demands it."

They advocate for responsible production practices that ensure the safety and well-being of participants, rather than exploiting their vulnerabilities for entertainment.

• Kid Fury (102:01): "There has to be consequences for these physical altercations."

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Notable Conclusions and Insights

• Managing Boundaries: Both hosts emphasize the importance of setting and respecting personal boundaries in relationships and friendships to maintain mental and emotional well-being.

• Innovation in Education: Highlighting Yamile Toussaint's work underscores the value of innovative educational programs that combine creativity with technical skills, particularly for young black girls.

• Critique of Media Influence: The discussion on reality TV shows like Baddies reflects a broader concern about the negative impact of media on participants' mental health and the ethical responsibilities of producers.

• Navigating Pop Culture Grief: The heartfelt conversation about Liam Payne's death illustrates how celebrity losses can tangibly affect fans, even those less connected to the artist's work.

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This detailed summary encapsulates the episode's key discussions, personal anecdotes, listener interactions, and critical analyses, providing a comprehensive overview for those who haven't tuned in.

Transcript

[A]

If you dunk Michelle, you badonka dunk your way back into the competition. RuPaul's Drag Race is back, only on MTV with show stopping celebrity guest judges.

[B]

Like Katy Perry, Dochi, Sam Smith, Adam Lambert and more.

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The splashiest season in her story is making major waves. Raider Queen is back. I hold their face in my dainty.

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Little hand because wetter is better. RuPaul's Drag Race is back.

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New season tonight at 8, 7 Central on MTV.

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Happy day.

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Welcome, everyone. It is us. I'm Desus and Mero, and I am.

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The 2024 WNBA champion New York Liberty. And this is the Reid, you're the award. Thanks for coming back. I mean, truly, the word's not a person.

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It's just a.

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But, you know, symbolic. I am who I am, right? It works.

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It's golden. It's gotta be gold.

[B]

Welcome back, everybody, to the show.

[A]

Yes, indeed. Well, we're in person.

[B]

We are. The first time in a very long time. I'm in New York, you're in Nueva. Your show coming out or happening later today? Yeah. Or.

[A]

Yeah, later today.

[B]

Are you excited? I'm filled with anxiety at the Gramercy Theater. That's pretty nice.

[A]

I was in my hotel room going to the restroom or going to get some ice, doing normal hotel room things on Monday, and I slipped on my bedroom sheet and rolled my toes over in a way that, like, holds something. So my foot was so swollen. It's still fucked up. No.

[B]

What?

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If you haven't been noticing, I've been hobbling around.

[B]

I did not notice. I did not notice. Sorry.

[A]

Yesterday was so painful. I just. I just had to stay off.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

So it was like now my anxiety, which, you know, loves these moments. I have to tell myself, post inside out, too, that anxiety isn't a villain. Anxiety. She's just.

[B]

That's right.

[A]

A little concerned and she takes it a little too far on her mind a little too much. So we have to get the rest of the emotions to say, hey, girl, here's your recliner. Cause anxiety is like, oh, sweetie, you have a standup show on Thursday and you can't stand up. Okay, well, so let's have fun exploring that.

[B]

You also don't literally have to stand up. We can always, you know, put a stool or something up there for you.

[A]

I will figure something out.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

It will be fine and everything will be fine. The sun will rise, set, moon, same thing.

[B]

You do this. You does this.

[A]

It is what she is.

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Yes.

[A]

How are you? How's motherhood?

[B]

Oh, God. Every day is different. Every day is new. She's just. Every. She's learning so much. I do. She. I think the potty training is going very well now. She will bark when she needs to go outside. She'll like. And look towards the door like, bitch, do you know? You know. You have 30 seconds, ladies. Literally. Literally.

[A]

Now's the time. I love that. I love when the dogs, like, get it.

[B]

She's right. She's like. And I know you don't want me to. All over your floor, so.

[A]

Because it requires for. For. For your pet, for the dog to speak up for themselves.

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

In one way or the next.

[B]

Right.

[A]

When I was a kid, our dog shadow, she would just scratch at the door. She'd come look at us, and she would scratch at the door and be.

[B]

Like, okay, if Lainey could do that, if she had access to the door, she would. But I. We finally. We're at the point now where she will actually get in her playpen, because at first she was absolutely not having it.

[A]

Yeah, I get it.

[B]

But now she has learned to jump right out of it. So I had to order a taller one.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Like, that lasted two weeks.

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I don't know.

[B]

Two weeks? Two weeks.

[A]

Maybe instead of people emailing you abuse advice, they should have said, hey, friend. Not sure if someone reminds you or not, but dogs can jump.

[B]

It's insane how high up she can get, though. Like, it's two feet tall. You're nowhere near that. So how is it that you are.

[A]

Able to leap, honey?

[B]

As soon as the first time she did it, I said, thank you for letting me know that you can do.

[A]

This if it was a cat, because.

[B]

I'm getting your ass. You are getting a taller play pin.

[A]

Literally. The rooftop cats fly. They do.

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They do.

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Dogs can jump.

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I don't even think I would try to keep a cat.

[A]

Cats more so keep into a playpen.

[B]

But, you know, she's doing well. She. It's just. I. I look at her, and it's just really, every day, she is learning something new, doing something new. She's just amazing.

[A]

She's so much work deep. You're digging into this. This puppy.

[B]

I mean, I. I feel like I have no choice. Oh, my God, the funniest. So speaking of emotions, the other day, I was viciously, ferociously high.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I had already put her to bed. She goes to bed three hours before I do work so that I can take her out to the bathroom one more time. And then I go to bed.

[A]

Absolutely.

[B]

And then we can get like six hours of sleep. So anyway, I'm super high and I'm processing a lot of, like, emotions and, you know, I mean, all kind of shit. I'm making connections from high edibles. So I'm real deep in my brain and I'm thinking out loud, processing out loud. After about 20 minutes, Lainey in her.

[A]

Crate goes, I love when they do that.

[B]

I said, bitch, am I bothering you?

[A]

Link does that shit too. She won't stop. Link, there's not a puppy there.

[B]

I said, do you want me to shut up?

[A]

Does that shit to you to this day? The first time it happened, I guess, yes.

[B]

And so I shut my ass. I said, well, I guess I'm moving.

[A]

This conversation to the I was bothering you.

[B]

I know in my house who pays bills. Not you, miss Girl. She said, bitch, I was already asleep when you came in here rambling. Either go back in the living room and do that. Cause we sleep in here. I was like, okay, bitch, got you. Copy.

[A]

Link will be in my bed. Which, see, as a black mother already with a pet, right? Cause you're my child, but you are a dog.

[B]

Yes. You're both.

[A]

And I am a black woman. So, like, you being in my bed, already huge, already monumental.

[B]

Because we didn't even let dogs in the house when I was a kid.

[A]

Baby, the bed.

[B]

My mother would have burnt the bed.

[A]

In my bed. I'm playing video games. Maybe a final fantasy, who cares? And I start losing. Suck my teeth. She looked back at me like, clean it up. I don't know what the attitude is, but it's disturbing me. I feel uncomfortable.

[B]

She's exact. She is the same. I was like, oh, okay. I guess I should.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Move my. I'm like, I'm having breakthroughs right now.

[A]

Lainey, there are other rooms in there.

[B]

She was like, do you know, like, the room you came from? You can just go back. Don't come in here bothering me when I'm asleep. I said, okay, okay.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Truly the dog for me. Obsessed with her.

[A]

Let's get into some black excellence this week, starting with an amazing woman by the name of Yamile Toussaint. She has basically done one of the coolest things I've read about in recent memory. And I feel like, low key. I know of this person, and I wouldn't be gagged if we've talked about her before. But Yamale, someone who grew up passionate about math and dance, she trained in both. She pursued a degree in mechanical engineering from mit.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

Her father was a mechanical engineer her mother was a nurse, of course, and at mit, she was one of two black women alone pursuing a degree in mechanical engineering. I love that. She said. She didn't look at it. She said, what struck me the most is I didn't feel like I was so exceptional that I should be one of two. I felt like it should be different. And it can be different.

[B]

I love that.

[A]

From there, she went to teach algebra and Brooklyn, and she noticed certain students aversion to math.

[B]

So me, hello, I would have been the student.

[A]

Here I am. Algebra. Algebra was one of the subjects where I was stimulated by, like, I liked it, but I wasn't good at it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which was frustrating.

[B]

I was good at, like, the very beginning algebra.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Plus 8 equals 10. Solve for X. Like, I can do that.

[A]

Once we're, like, towards the school year and we got the big baby problems. Yeah.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

And we're talking about the final. It's like, oh, girl.

[B]

No, I'm not.

[A]

Geometry was T. But that was the same thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It was like intros, like, oh, what is the ratio?

[B]

Not bad. Yeah, sure, got that. But then you start getting into March, sine and cosine. Get me out of here. I don't know what the fuck you are. Never been a big math girly.

[A]

So what happened is that Yamile started a nonprofit called STEM from Dance. Really, really cool. It's a program that basically bridges the gap between being creative and, you know, all of the technical expertise and stuff that you would get in stem. She uses dance workshops and camps to teach girls from 8 years old to 18 how to incorporate STEM staples like coding, robotics and engineering into D. Like choreographing dance routines that incorporate STEM elements like LED lights that they code and learn to sync up with the music. And then at the end of the program, they get to perform their dance routines that are infused with STEM for their family and friends. And they wear their LED lights and just this very theme park attraction, show style things that these young black girls are learning to do through this program. And it's something that, as Yamile says, they can then go out into the world and know that they're trained in stem and these really cool things that they have learned and maybe are continuing to exercise in are STEM enforced. And it's also really gorgeous. You know, this. One of the things she said is that, like, that can then come with the thought of, like, oh, I can solve hard problems in school, in college, wherever, because I learned how to code an LED belt while also, you know, Rehearsing it.

[B]

Yes. And making it relevant. Making it relevant to my life. Exactly.

[A]

So sickening to me because the dance camp workshop thing is so straightforward and I think very stimulating and attractive to young kids, especially young black girls. So finding a way to mix in something as cool as STEM and introduce them to that as well. I read this. I'm in my emotional bag. I'm taking my medication, I promise you. But I think I'm also just aging and having, like, a weird crisis.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And with that comes a lot of emotions. I didn't cry. I thought I would. But what I did think is explore black girl magic, because that's now a term that's so capitalized, it's like in Marvel movies and every white household knows about it and stuff. I think black girls are literal magic.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

As I am studying up more on magic, literally, like reading.

[B]

Oh.

[A]

About, like, literal magic, I think that black women and femmes are just attuned to earth and space in a way that other human groups may not be. And I think.

[B]

Yes. I would not be surprised. I would not be surprised by that at all. I feel like, the most truly spiritual, like, connected to a greater spirit, like a. More not really specific to any one belief or religion, but just believing in, you know, a spiritual realm and, you know, ancestors guides, that sort of thing. Those people.

[A]

I don't want to go Terrence Howard, but she's like, we all are. They are scientifically connected to this space that we walk on and whatever that means. I feel like black girls just naturally, biologically have like a. An inherent.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Called head start. I don't know.

[B]

Yeah, because.

[A]

What the fuck do you mean? You're teaching black girls stem through dance?

[B]

See, I mean, that is. That. I don't. You truly. That is a level of talent that I can't fathom.

[A]

Have you heard Samara Joy's new album, Portrait?

[B]

No, I have not. Because Samara Joy makes me cry every time she opens her mouth, and I don't have time for that. I don't have time for that, so.

[A]

Well, congratulations to all involved. Let's get into our pop culture segment that we call Hot tops Terrifier Part 3. It's not a joke. I just don't have anything. And honestly, if you're familiar with Terrifier, it kind of works, especially the latest one. Where should we start?

[B]

Who knows? Well, you can start with how your sports shorts prediction came true.

[A]

I was going to get there.

[B]

Oh, okay. I just pray it's not another, like. Never mind. Just kidding.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

You do your thing. You do your thing.

[A]

No, no, I don't want to.

[B]

You're so good at it.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, well, that's fine.

[A]

Okay. Liam Payne from One Direction passed away very tragically. This gagged me for two reasons. One, very sad. Very, very tragic. 31 years old. The manner in which he died seemed to be really sad. And the other is that, I guess, the way that I found out. And also the manner in which I was very, like, I guess, unsettled, even though I know almost nothing about him or the group he's in.

[B]

Right, right, right.

[A]

But my computer gets these news notifications, these little bubbles up in the corner. That happens.

[B]

Shit.

[A]

And one of them said, you know, One Direction member Liam Payne, 31? And I literally was like. Because. And I couldn't place his face. Honestly, even One Direction. Like, I can't name one of their songs.

[B]

Nope.

[A]

I know that they won X Factor probably in the UK because they're all British, I think.

[B]

Right. That makes sense.

[A]

And that's about it. Like, I don't really know. I know another one of them is Zayn.

[B]

Zayn. That's the only one I know.

[A]

Oh, and the one that's, like, super famous, too.

[B]

The one that Zayn is not the super famous one.

[A]

I mean, they're all super famous. But there's. Harry Styles was in One Direction.

[B]

Oh, I didn't know that.

[A]

I think 1,000. Whatever. It doesn't matter. Like, this is. The point is this is where I. How I. This is like, my realm of knowledge, right when it comes to One Direction. And I still, like, stopped everything. Like, why this person has to be incredibly young. There was a boy band that's, like, that came out way after I was into boy bands and, like, after I thought boy bands could even be a thing still. So, yeah, I just. I was very shocked that I even had such a, like, shocked reaction. Because it's not to say that it's not, like, upsetting that someone passed away tragically, but I was also just like, what. I went into reading all this stuff about it, and that made it further upsetting.

[B]

Well, he had a lot of drugs in his system.

[A]

Yeah, I read.

[B]

So I'm sure that contributed to. For sure, you know, his fall. But I. You know, I kind of just had a moment of, oh, that's. That is sad. How crazy. But I can't say that I really dwelled on it any more than that, because the name Liam Payne did not even register for me at all. Like, this is not a person y'all make up New white people every day. I'm totally different.

[A]

I was like, if you would've said to me Liam Payne, I probably would've been like, One Direction couldn't. Could walk in the room at any time. And I probably would not be like, that is Liam Payne.

[B]

Yeah, no, I would've. House of Pain.

[A]

But I. I definitely could associate the name with the band.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So it was a mix of things, of it being like, oh, that's really sad. This person died tragically and young. This person I don't know anything really about. But then also me going down this weird rabbit hole of like, boy bands and fame been my own girls don't really mental health issues and feeling like, ah, damn. Cause I think he was like, going through it.

[B]

Yeah. I. TikTok told me that he had some allegations, something about forcing an ex girlfriend to get an abortion or something.

[A]

I think that he was like, in the middle of that.

[B]

Oh, yikes. Okay.

[A]

Because when I looked him up, I saw there was a story about his. I don't know, someone who was. I guess was like a recent ex.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Who.

[B]

And I think she was young too. Like, maybe she was only 18, I.

[A]

Think had like, went to court behind him or something like that. So I don't know what was going on.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Sounds like a lot. But I'm sure there are some people who listen to this podcast who are One Direction fans, so. Because, I mean, we meet the people every now and then. Like, oh, yeah, I've been listening to you since I was 13. What the fuck are you talking about?

[B]

Who let you do that?

[A]

Why?

[B]

Nobody was watching you on that podcast app. Huh? He was doing whatever he wanted to.

[A]

On that podcast app, Noah's Ark, onto my ipod when I was cedar. I just talked about that on Monet's podcast.

[B]

I mean, I was listening to Adina Howard.

[A]

I mean, who was it? I was burning adina Howard on CDs.

[B]

For friends, going to little dances and stuff at school, talking about T shirt in my panties. Like, right.

[A]

Why did you know that?

[B]

12. I'm not wearing no T shirt and panties at that age. But yeah, that was. That was quite the story.

[A]

The Be Hip Hop Awards happened, child.

[B]

Patrick just. I said what I had. No. Did they promote this at all? Like, did anybody notice what's happening?

[A]

They maybe have like, a promotional thing for it, like the week of or the week before. I feel like a lot of award shows now are. Are like. I feel like I don't see the promo for them until it's like the weekend before. It. If. If I see it at all. That's why I'm always just like, oh, yeah, I found out the VMAs happened because they were happening because they were airing.

[B]

Yeah. I. I was gonna say maybe I think I knew about the VMAs because Megan posted about it because she was hosting. But.

[A]

Right.

[B]

If I don't follow whoever is hosting your show, I. I mean, I just was shocked that. That the Hip Hop Awards happen because I literally heard nothing about it.

[A]

I didn't see nobody pictures like this.

[B]

Is what I'm saying. I didn't even. I guess this was like last Tuesday or Thursday or something. I have not seen anything from anybody on any of my social apps about the BET Hip Hop Awards.

[A]

Did they do ciphers? Because the thing about hip hop, the Hip Hop Awards that I always go back for are the ciphers. But I haven't even seen anything about that.

[B]

Who amongst them can participate?

[A]

I have to dwell on that.

[B]

Sure. We do. You eliminate the cyphers when nobody can freestyle.

[A]

Who was all.

[B]

Who I was there. Was it a bunch of little something somethings that I don't know.

[A]

Okay, this isn't. Hold on, I'm gonna look this up later. Cause I know that Rhapsody was sort of. She was like in the studio with different Viacom. Viacom alum. Talent employees. Works.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And. And having them go rap. But they were people that weren't rappers.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

Like people who've been on MTV or.

[B]

Okay. Personalities.

[A]

They're just. Yeah, personalities. Folks on the Internet. And I think that's fun.

[B]

Okay. I was thinking actual Viacom employees. Like, I was like, clock in and out.

[A]

I'm talking about like, got you.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think that's fun. But I want to see like the actual rappers of today. Whatever. I want to hear some people who won Hip Hop Artists of the Year. Kendrick Lamar, Song of the Year, Not Like Us. Kendrick Lamar, Best Hip Hop Video, Not Like Us. Kendrick Lamar, Hip Hop Album of the year, Pink Friday 2. Nicki Minaj.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Best Breakthrough Artist, Sexyy Red. Let me look at the nominees real quick.

[B]

Speaking of Sexyy Red, do we have to. Just briefly. I did listen to Glorilla's album. Yeah, I do enjoy it and I am devastated because that song with Sexyy Red and the Boosie sample is one of my favorites.

[A]

It's not bad.

[B]

I'm pretty pissed.

[A]

I don't like her verse.

[B]

Oh, no, it's bad. But she's always been a bad rapper. I just liked her little ratchet ass. I just liked her ratchet ass music.

[A]

If I didn't. If she overall didn't currently discuss to me.

[B]

Right.

[A]

I would like sit through it more and just be accepting. Oh, yeah, ratchet, whatever. But she's never been like, oh, I can't wait to hear this vert. Like, I don't.

[B]

Yeah, no, she's not that. But the beat is crazy. The production on the whole album is crazy. But that's. That song definitely stood out. As I said, not the sample with the Trump supporter on the feature being one of the best songs on the album.

[A]

That's good.

[B]

Okay, so who else?

[A]

Okay. Yeah. Hip hop album of the year. She was okay. American Dream 21, savage air thing, Anything Gorilla for All the Dogs. Scary Hours Edition, Drake. These are the hip hop album of the year nominees. Wait, okay. Yeah. In Sexyy Red or whatever. The sexy red one, Megan Gunna's album, Travis album featuring Metro Bielman and that Nicki one for Pink Friday.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Best breakthrough was also 41. Love them niggas.

[B]

I'm partial to 42. It's how you look so disappointed.

[A]

Let's move on. Lady London is right there. Right? Like, I'm so like, what? What else? What do you need? What do y'all need? Lady London is right. Okay. It's fine. No, the kids love Sexy Red. Okay. Boss Mandela, Cash, Cobain is right. Okay, whatever. So, yeah, that happened. And oh, like that one. Best collaboration, Kendrick, because.

[B]

Kendrick. Yeah, because I was about to say futures verse on versus Futures input on that song is not great. Kendrick really takes that song to the next level.

[A]

But that and how.

[B]

I can't say this is surprising. That makes sense. Actually.

[A]

It's fine.

[B]

Did anybody go? I'm like, I haven't seen any red carpet pictures. When I tell you I've seen nothing. Nothing.

[A]

This happened over a week ago.

[B]

Yeah. And it came and went like niggas, Literally. I've not seen a soul post anything.

[A]

King Harris got arrested last week in Georgia. This one wasn't like a crazy, but it was a reminder for niggas, especially young niggas, to be careful. Be more careful. Apparently he was pulling out of a gas station, almost hit a police car.

[B]

Oh, okay. So he wasn't looking where he was.

[A]

Going or apparently the police stopped him. Reported that they smelled weed and that they saw King had a gun on his hip, ran his information. He had an open warrant, of course, and the warrant was for not appearing in court, which I don't know why you niggas feel like you can just not go. You can Just not go. And then that's gonna be it.

[B]

Not how that works at all. Can't do that.

[A]

One thing is, my dad said to me when I was very, very, very, very young. I don't even remember what prompted this, but he said to me, you think that when a bill comes in the mail that if you get rid of it or you don't open it, that you don't owe somebody something?

[B]

No. It just magically dissolves, you know, and.

[A]

It'S gonna be all right. He didn't respond.

[B]

No, it does not.

[A]

It just gets worse.

[B]

Yes. Right. And that's just a bill. You playing around with the court system.

[A]

Right. That's a. That flowered into so many other facets of life for me at such a long. A young age. Yes.

[B]

Does not go away. I learned that the hard way with speeding tickets. I was like, baby child.

[A]

That might have been what it was. Actually, now that I'm thinking about, it.

[B]

May have been a ticket so fast. I was like, oh, I didn't realize.

[A]

I actually think that's exactly what.

[B]

There were real consequences for this. But I was young. I was like, 22. So I ain't. You know, you live and learn.

[A]

Ate me up. I was like, nothing he's saying is a lie. What was the plan?

[B]

What you said? What they gonna do? Put it on my credit.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Womp. No, you'll go to jail. Oh, King. Yeah. I'm not. You know, I'm not surprised. This is obviously not his first time getting in trouble, but I did think in his. Maybe this was just me being sensitive, but in his little mug shot, his eyes looked very sad. He looked kind of tragic.

[A]

It was probably bumped out well, but it'll be okay.

[B]

A little bummer. But then I. It's crazy because, like, a day or two before, I had just seen the pictures of him in his girlfriend. Whoever's carrying his baby. Beautiful, beautiful young lady. And I guess they were celebrating the baby shower or something like that. So it's like, you know, I. 20.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

A little young to already have so.

[A]

Much legal trouble and also a kid of celebrities. So who are also them. And then was on tv Very, very, very young. I get it to an extent. Speaking of, Jaden Smith made a tweet a few days ago about weirdness and everyone attributing weirdness to him based on a lot of his recent behavior.

[B]

Oh, recent. I thought. I was. I was thinking historically, I mean, I'm saying.

[A]

Yeah, that's probably a better word to use.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Actually, a couple other. Yeah. A few days ago. Yeah. Another one of these little notifications that I should probably turn off came up, and this time it was from a complex interview. And it says, the headline is, I interviewed Jaden Smith. And it was somehow even weirder than I expected. And talked about how he came dressed, and he would answer some questions by pulling out a piece of paper from his pocket and reading quotes from Twilight.

[B]

Okay, yes, that is weird, nigga. That's extremely weird behavior. At first I was like, oh, that's unfair. But why would you do that, Jaden?

[A]

When I thought about it, I'm like, okay. Yeah, I know he has been in, you know, the news for a few years for peculiar things, but I couldn't remember exactly what some of those things were off the top. And then this article reminded me it was things like wearing a white Batman suit to Kim Kardashian and Kanye West. I was gonna say when getting on guests nerves. And I love that. That doesn't bother me at all.

[B]

No, not at all. But I think that was definitely it for him and his sister both when they were younger. It was definitely like, what are Will and Jada doing with those kids? Why are. Why is Jaden allowed to wear his hair the way he wants to? Why can Willow wear whatever she feels like in a. I think y'all might be exaggerating a little bit.

[A]

Yeah. Some of it is. Oh, they have a familial foundation that is actually healthy in terms of allowing your children space.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But that is something that is not super familiar for the average black American household. So I think we do say that shit, you know, unsurprisingly. Go, whoa, why can this one say this? Or feel free to. We're different.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But also, Your mama is J.D. pinkett. Your daddy is Will Smith. You've been talent since you were, like, four.

[B]

Yeah. And famous your whole life.

[A]

So I'm like, one of the things he said, tweet the other day was all the weird shit you've ever seen me do was me thinking I was totally normal. So now sometimes I try to act weird on purpose. So y'all think it's on purpose, but at the end of the day, I've been trying to fit in this whole time, and I guess it's not exactly going to plan. He said something similar in this complex article when the person interviewing him, Eric Skelton, asked him why it's important for him to be weird. And essentially he was just, like, you know, for a lot of his life, he felt like he was just trying to Feel normal. Which I imagine has a lot less to do with. I'm Jaden Smith, celebrity. And also, like, everywhere I go, people know who I am and who my mama is and who my daddy is. And surveillance for me as a young person is so different than the average young person because everyone's, you know.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And so I think what I. From what I'm reading and processing is like, well, I'm gonna just be strange.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To figure out. I think he's just trying to find himself. He's 26.

[B]

I mean, and you can just be weird. Like, these niggas, they not gonna jump.

[A]

You, you know, breaking laws or hurting anybody. I don't really care if you can just carries his dreadlocks at the Met Gallery.

[B]

Right. You could be quirky and, you know, different. What. For whatever reason, whatever you might have going on, like, you can just. It's strange in a way, because I see what you're saying. At the same time, I think I would have thought, you know, Jaden Smith grew up in a very different environment than most of us. Like, I kind of just would have thought that the weirdness would be celebrated or welcomed or like, you know, just. I guess I had this picture in.

[A]

My mind of like, can you see?

[B]

It's California. Everybody's weird, you know, everybody's different. Everybody grows shrooms in their backyard, you know.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

That's what I would have thought.

[A]

In the same interview, the person says, I've always felt like the whole. This is the interviewer. The whole point of being an entertainer is to be weird as hell and push boundaries.

[B]

They get it.

[A]

The rest of us have to be quote, unquote, normal at our regulars jobs. So it would be disappointing and boring if someone like you who makes art was afraid to be weird. To which Jaden said, yeah, I think it's just about trying to be bringing a different perspective to the world. So people have a bunch of different perspectives to look at. He's a kid.

[B]

Yeah. You don't have to try to bring a different perspective. You just are the different perspective.

[A]

But I think that his mind, like, as an individual and keeping in mind that we're all so different and process things so different, especially if your life has been so uniquely different than the average person's life. I think his mind is like, well, what do I give the people? Because how I'm perceived matters to me, or as complex, more complex than maybe. Maybe it needs to be for me. So I'm gonna show up wearing something weird and acting a little weird because maybe I'm still figuring out normal, jaded. Or maybe this is normal jaded. And my thing is, I don't care. Again, as long as he's not burning a building down or hurting anybody.

[B]

It just goes to show that just because you're extremely rich and famous does not mean you are immune from feeling the pressure to fit in with larger society or even feel like maybe there's something wrong with you that you need to adjust or fix, quote, unquote in the first place. So, yeah, Jaden, I hope you. I hope you figure it out for yourself, bro. But you can just. Whoever you are, you can just be that. Especially you. Like, we all can, but especially those of you with, like, the privilege to not have to worry about having a job. You know, a lot of people would dye their hair purple and get their nose pierced if their job would let them, for example. But you can just. Whatever springs up within you, you have the privilege and the freedom to express that. So have fun figuring it out. I wish. Truly, I wish.

[A]

I do imagine even just being able to be kind of young and have your parents go, yeah, you'd be a little gay. We're both a little gay. Go ahead and be a little gay.

[B]

When I tell you. That would have changed my whole life.

[A]

I made me some rock music. You get some rock.

[B]

Like, yeah, what do you want to paint with your hair? Go ahead. It's the studio out back. Yeah, yeah, it's just. If somebody would have said. It's just.

[A]

It's just hair.

[B]

Oh, the freedom.

[A]

I can't even. I honestly can't.

[B]

Freedom. Yeah, so. But, you know, that's a. That's very typical of people his age. And, yeah, I'm wishing him luck as he figures himself out.

[A]

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[A]

Called CPS on Cardi B and her children. I guess because y'all think that is funny.

[B]

Her baby daddy too, right?

[A]

I guess.

[B]

I think she said CPS was called on both of them. But kids, never mind. I was about to say, can you just do that? Can you just call CPS and be like go check on Cardi?

[A]

Yes, because she's not the first. It's almost like the swatting thing too.

[B]

But don't you have to prove that you have some sort of connection to this person?

[A]

Because they said this was an anonymous tip, which is crazy that that can.

[B]

Happen because celebrities, right? Because anybody could just call up and Be like, I think Jason Sudeikis is abusing his kids, like literally. What do you mean? Ah, that seems like a flawed system.

[A]

But she claims that CPS showed up to their house in her gated community around 11pm which is an anonymous 11, which is crazy to me. It's like I didn't even know CPS could show up.

[B]

So you thought the children were in imminent danger then is what I'm getting from that. You thought maybe it life or death.

[A]

They just got that phone call.

[B]

Well, they don't. I was gonna say I don't think they typically move that fast. But I do know social services can and will pop up that at that hour. But I would have never thought they would do that unless they thought these children might die if they remain in this person's custody. So I'm just. What was the. Even the complaint? What did they say Cardi did?

[A]

I don't. They said that the. From the video I was watching, it looked like she was in a hospital bed. But that's neither nor there. She said that. I guess CPS told them it was a report that the kids were being abused, like they were being beaten and then they were like genuinely physically not safe.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

And I've heard of this happening to people before, especially people of certain visibility, fame or what have you. I don't get it.

[B]

No, same. It seems incredible to me that a random person can just do this. That seems just.

[A]

And it seems like CPS also won't say even with I'm sure evidence that the children are fine.

[B]

Yeah. No.

[A]

Who the person was that wasted everyone's time and resources.

[B]

Yeah. Well, they might not know, but I bet the police can find out. I bet it won't take long because I'm sure any call that you make into that office is required recorded. I'm sure that they can.

[A]

Cardi said in this video that she. She was like if they were not going to give me the information. She said a private investigator's name that she's going to have.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Somebody can themselves and I know they will do it. Like if, if the actual organizations involved won't say here or you know, the police. Yeah, I'm sure she can hire someone who will find out who it is.

[B]

Yeah, I think, I'm just thinking that cps, you know, that building or those employees or whatever are like if somebody called private, you know, and made it anonymous, then. No, we don't know. But it would not take much for them to be able. Or for the police to be able to figure that Out. And filing a false report with CPS feels like a crime.

[A]

It feels like it should.

[B]

Feels like it should be. So if I was Cardi, I would be getting very little. Just. I would be getting my bob ready.

[A]

Bottom line of people had to spend money from taxpayers, right?

[B]

Yeah, taxpayers dollars.

[A]

Okay, so then they gotta have somebody from DCFS and a police come out here at 11pm to check on children that are fine.

[B]

Culture, sleep, wave sleep. The baby is up. But that's what babies do.

[A]

Cardi was like, my kids go to Sky Zone every weekend. American dream, my wishes. She said, what culture Love to eat. What's her favorite food? Raymond. Every day. Raymond. She was going down. How spoiled the kids are. And she's over it. She said she's hiring private investigator to find out whoever made that call. And I was like, yep, she's finna go full. What's that lady name? Tasha K. Oh, yes. And make another example.

[B]

And she said, have y'all not learned?

[A]

I'm not even filing no lawsuit. This is where she halfway lost me.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

She said full way. She said, I'm not filing no lawsuit. If it's a nigga who made this call, Offset is going to beat your ass.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

If it was a girl that made this call, me and Hennessy are going to beat your ass because don't fuck with my kids.

[B]

Yeah, don't whatever weird shit you have. Leave my children alone.

[A]

I think you should sue them. I think you should sue them instead.

[B]

You're gonna end up in court.

[A]

Fully understand? Oh, yeah, 20,000% I understand. But let's look at the current history.

[B]

You have arguing with the courts. You need to not do that. You need to not do that.

[A]

Get them where it really hurts.

[B]

Yes. Take all of their things and make sure they'll never be able to work without paying you again. I'd much rather do that. So, yeah, y'all. Y'all need to take this stand shit and act like you have just a drop of common sense, man. Why would you play with somebody like that? Nikki's not paying your bills. Do you know that? Nikki won't be paying your bills.

[A]

Okay, I feel like I did this to Nikki too. Hold on.

[B]

This is insane. How can do you have to. I mean.

[A]

Oh, she got swatted.

[B]

Somebody had her. Is that when they leak your address?

[A]

This is tmz. So you know how I feel or is that doxing? Nicki Minaj is. It's the same thing as when, like, the swat. It's. It's. It's the same Shit. It's when. Like, I think swatting overall now in involves when someone falsely claims something. So the police show up at your house. Oh, yes, but I think the term is like swat, as in SWAT team. Yeah, but TMZ says she was the victim of a swatting prank. One of the sheriff's department says in says involved one. Okay, I'm sorry. One the sheriff's department says involved a caller falsely claiming Nikki's child was being abused.

[B]

Yikes.

[A]

But also that her house was up in flames. The attempting swatting went down earlier this month. This was June. And when child services got an anonymous call alleging child abuse at Nikki's LA area home. So, yeah, they did the same shit to her in June. What's wrong with y'all?

[B]

I don't. I'm seeing something from. Damn, was it last year? And this year I'm seeing something from. About Nicki Minaj and this happening. Oh, she done. And she. And she tweeted the name of the person who did it and said, oh, Warren is in the system. Exactly. Y'all need to quit playing with people. That is Yalls little Stan wars and everything is already stupid as. But, you know, I let y'all have that because it's just as dumb and hurtful as it can be. Most of it is just words online. Calling the authorities and having them go to people's houses behind lies. Yeah, I cannot blame any of these celebrities for deciding that they'll bankrupt you. I'll bankrupt you for playing with me. You got on the phone, played, made a phone call. He, he, he. Tee hee. I will end your life. You'll never have anything again.

[A]

Wars as what they are. Right?

[B]

A bunch of very bored people who need something to do and who feel.

[A]

Like they're a part of something connected to someone who is, like, unimaginably wealthy and successful and has things that they could only dream of to feel like your dedication and loyalty. Loyalty to. Loyalty to that person could lead to them following you back or shouting you out on that app where the girls talk to their fans. Oh, yeah, station head. Whatever, girl. Like, I get it. And being like Ren, Nicki's the queen ran Cardi's. And just like your fave girl, you have to be able to remember that there is grass outside and you can touch it.

[B]

At the peak of my stanning behavior, the peak of my stand days, I never once even thought about breaking the law behind Beyonce. Are y'all outta y'all minds?

[A]

The girls pulling up to fight one another?

[B]

Please get a life. No Y'all need a life really fucking bad. And that goes for all you Stans across just have fun subjects across interests. Every Stan needs to fucking relax.

[A]

Enjoying the the person the people that like graduate to. I'm gonna read my fave behind the system. Fucking with them unfairly.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Especially with a Nicki a Cardi a blah blah blah. Cardi was saying, you know they're the only family of color in her neighborhood. So it's even more like crazy and hurtful that these people outside or whatever. And it's like well there go the niggas being heard. Them motherfuckers her arguing offset. And they're like of course the police near. Of course the rap niggas moved in. You know, it's like yeah. Or like when Nicki Minaj was saying hey Grammy, why is it that my song is categorized underneath this when they clearly don't make no damn sense? And we didn't get any art. We didn't get really an answer to that because we shiftly turned that into Nicki Minaj versus Latto.

[B]

Yes, right.

[A]

But we have to graduate from like the pettiness to like stuff that actually matters. Sure, if anything.

[B]

And Stans could be useful in that way but they would much rather focus on.

[A]

But outside of that like goof ass shit, even if you're petty fucking my faves ops, you're calling the feds. I'm not calling strangers.

[B]

I'm not calling the feds. I'm not calling the city, state, local municipality. I'm not calling nobody behind a celebrity. And I don't especially, especially if I know that I'm pulling it out of my ass.

[A]

If I worked for Cardi B.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

If I was employed by Cardi B Arthur and she told me didn't someone do that on snatch? Never went if I was.

[B]

Don't give nobody that idea, please.

[A]

I'm pretty sure like Eve Yadley or somebody tried to do Cardi B author doesn't matter.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

If I was employed by bay lady and she said hey go ahead and go do this because fuck that lady, I would quit or get fired.

[B]

I mean it really depends. But yeah, I'm not, I'm not risking my freedom. I'm not risking my freedom, girl. They'll take my black ass right to.

[A]

Just or my karmic fate. I want nothing to do with it. I'm not putting bad juju out there for no goddamn stranger. Yeah, especially stranger that you know is spoiling their kids fucking rotten wave was just throwing rocks at his mammy and Laughing about it. You know why? Because he can't.

[B]

Didn't we just see culture? Never mind. I. I don't want to conflate people, you know, spending a million dollars on their child's birthday party to them being good parents. But if you don't have.

[A]

Well, we don't just see that.

[B]

But if you. This is. This is what I'm saying. You have no reason to believe that Cardi and Offset are abusing or neglecting their children. So why would you even play like that? This is just a very stupid behavior.

[A]

From that first video, I've seen a Cardi where Wade was. I don't know, like one. Maybe he was tiny and he was trying to go upstairs, and she was like, ah. Like, he loves being out here on these stairs.

[B]

No, right.

[A]

I was like, girl, the same woman.

[B]

Who cut off her own music when Kulture walks in the room so she don't hear about wet ass foots.

[A]

What are we doing?

[B]

I just don't see.

[A]

We can just not like them.

[B]

But again, I would never play like that.

[A]

What. What do you get out of that?

[B]

Not. And you're taking away resources when actual children are being abused, are being mistreated. Hel. Y'all gotta let this dance shit go. You really gonna lose everything behind it.

[A]

But people are crazy and stupid, and like a lot of them, they are both. And I don't leave the house. And so sometimes that gags me. And I have to be like, girl, you're almost 40. You gotta remember the earth that you live on.

[B]

These people don't know how to act.

[A]

I think I'm gonna end it with some good news.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[A]

Rudy G. That tequila is hitting her.

[B]

Rudy.

[A]

Rudy Giuliani has been instructed by U.S. district Judge Louis Lehman, I believe, to run the coins.

[B]

Oh, yes, this is delightful.

[A]

And run them now.

[B]

This is a delightful story.

[A]

Now, we spoke about this on the podcast. Last year, two poll workers in Georgia by the names of Ruby Freeman and Shay Moss, who is her daughter, they won a defamation of character lawsuit against Rudy G. Rudy.

[B]

You got it.

[A]

Whatever.

[B]

Fuck him.

[A]

I don't care if I can't say his name right. He's a piss stainless against Rudy Giuliani, who accused them of rigging the 2020 election or taking part in the rigging of the 2020 election, which was false because that didn't happen.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So the judge said 140 million of those United States things will go to these two black women that you decided that you felt like you were going to read and accuse Of. Of fairy tales and fallacies and the apartment. Sweetie. Fast forward to today. Those beautiful black women and their attorney said, so what again. To my father's.

[B]

I like the keys.

[A]

What you thought of that, Bill? You thought that that was just not gonna.

[B]

You thought you could just do.

[A]

What did you think?

[B]

You know, and I. This is just so delightful. Because again, it's one thing to ignore a speeding ticket. Ignore. Even ignore a summons like King Harris to interfere with a federal election in multiple states with multiple. Like you. You. Quite literally. We just talked about this two weeks ago. How you texted the wrong number.

[A]

You did.

[B]

Talking about. I need you to tell niggas you did that poorly. And so now you have to relinquish the keys to your home. I'm delighted it belongs to someone else now. And they gonna have cheese on their burger for the rest of their life.

[A]

Grandbabies. Bacon and cheese.

[B]

Talk about generational wealth.

[A]

Do you have avocado?

[B]

Avocado is. I was about to say, what else is expensive?

[A]

Toast that bun, bitch.

[B]

Avocado. $3. I don't give a fuck, bitch. Give me double. I vote in.

[A]

What do you mean? Let's get into the details. The judge said. The judge said that this man must liquidate these assets and fork over the things within seven days. And this was on Tuesday.

[B]

God, that's wonderful.

[A]

Okay, the says here, via NBC News, via. Via. Rhymes with snitch. The judge granted the mother and daughter the right to use a receiver to sell off Giuliani's assets, quote, in order to ensure that the liquidation and transferred assets is accomplished quickly. No, girl, I want to get into the specific things. Among the items that are supposed to be turned over are Giuliani's New York apartment. This penthouse apartment.

[B]

Yes. That ought to be very exciting.

[A]

Which is valued at 5.7 million. Oh, but girly, we've got a ways to go.

[B]

I love to hear it.

[A]

His collection of luxury watches, including watches gifted to him by his grandfather.

[B]

Your granddaddy, he been dead.

[A]

Girl, when I tell you not only fuck your granddaddy in this watch now it's my grandbaby's watch forever.

[B]

And I might just let her teeth on it.

[A]

Can you imagine being Ruby Freeman and or Shay Moss's great great grand getting this fucking watch.

[B]

Yeah, you're taking your newborn picture.

[A]

Let me tell you the legend of your great great grandmama.

[B]

Let me tell you how all my.

[A]

Great great grandmama did was that fucking o. Fake said.

[B]

I'm not breaking the fucking law.

[A]

Them tickets.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And by the French president Lil's gifts. Assigned Joe DiMaggio jersey.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Assigned Reggie Jackson picture.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

A 1980s Merce. A 1980 Mercedes previously owned by Lauren Bacalli. I know who that is.

[B]

Lauren Bacall. What?

[A]

Oh, Lauren Bacall. I didn't see that. I thought it said Lauren Bacalli.

[B]

No, Lauren Bacall. Okay. And I bet it's in pristine condition.

[A]

Probably. Probably has not been driven.

[B]

Probably in one of them garages that Jay Leno keeps all his cars in. Wow.

[A]

Wow. Some items not included in this decision are three New York Yankees World Series rings, and that is because Rudy's son Andrew claimed his father gifted the rings to him. The judge said that that claim, as well as a claim for Rudy's Florida condominium, will be determined at a later date. So that's not even off the table yet.

[B]

Oh, take it all. Oh, my God. This is incredible.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

I just. I heard about the apartment. I was like, that's good enough.

[A]

But the rest of this, your grandpappy's watch.

[B]

Let me tell you how if I was the nigga in Minnesota that he was trying to text and didn't, how mad I would be that I missed out on the opportunity to clean up like these two are. I would be so mad if he.

[A]

Texted me, I'm melting this jewelry down and wearing it in my mouth.

[B]

I'm. I'm going to be as disrespectful as possible with it. When I tell you I would be adorning the babies around me with your watches.

[A]

Like, can you imagine? He would die. Rudy Giuliani would actually die if he saw one of these women or any of their family members wearing a grill.

[B]

I suppose you'll just have to pass away. I suppose you'll just have to die.

[A]

Which would just be another iconic moment.

[B]

It's gonna be an anklet. It's an anklet for Lainey.

[A]

Literally.

[B]

Literally. Lainey is wearing your watch to go read her pee mails and shit on the sidewalk. That's what she's wearing it for.

[A]

Literally. On a tik Tok. Where did Link get that gold bowl from?

[B]

I'mma be. I'm g. Be on tik tok with the. This is your granddaddy, the Mr. Brown clip from. I know. From the Madea movies. Ah, I love that for them. Shout out to them.

[A]

Oh, man, this is one of the greatest things. Things.

[B]

And, you know, they just gonna turn right around and sell anything they don't want to, you know, just keep as a knickknack. They're just gonna turn right around and sell it. If y'all looking to offload that apartment, though, you can just call me and I would love to give you, like, 5 or $6,000 for it. I know you said valued over 5 million, but if y'all want to just do a black girl a favor, that would be so nice. Thank you.

[A]

That would actually be sick. Could you imagine?

[B]

Wouldn't it be crazy if they were like, oh, we love the read. Sure, you can have it, bitch. Me and Lainey, y'all think I'm bad now?

[A]

I think that might cause the apocalypse. I think that might be when God's like, okay, it's not getting any better than this.

[B]

It's not. It's not getting better than this. You right. You right.

[A]

Well, that's gonna be it for me. In black excellence. I felt like ending on some good news.

[B]

Yeah. Wonderful news, Truly.

[A]

So we will come back and we will read your letters after we do kid Furies sports shorts.

[B]

Wonderful.

[A]

Welcome back, girlies. I just want to take a very quick moment to congratulate.

[B]

Yes. The parade of Saba City Ho.

[A]

I want their WNBA championship win first for the team. They defeated the Minnesota Lynx 77, 62 recently. The series was actually tied up until game five, where the Liberty tore ass and took home the crown.

[B]

We did do that.

[A]

Vicious display of athleticism, talent, vigor, resilience.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And camaraderie.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

By everyone involved, but mostly Ellie the Elephant. Now, the Liberty entered the finals is the lone and orig. The lone and only original WNBA franchise without a championship.

[B]

That's true.

[A]

Now, that is no longer. That is very true, as the Liberty are winners. And I believe the energy of both the fans and the mascot absolutely search these. These talented individuals into their championship win winners. Overall. Overall.

[B]

Oh, my God, I'm so happy.

[A]

Winning winners.

[B]

Oh, so happy.

[A]

Nobody could beat them.

[B]

They were so, so happy. I mean, it was just an incredible season for us, and I feel like the girls were just waiting for me to become a season ticket holder. They were just waiting.

[A]

I think that's what happened.

[B]

Yes. I just. When I first. I'm about to get emotional, but when I first moved here, I said I would root for the Liberty and the Yankees because I didn't have a WNBA team or MLB team. And then the Liberty, they played at the Garden for a while, and then James Dolan was sick of that and sent them to Westchester. And then the sides brought them to Brooklyn, and that was in 2020. And when they came to Brooklyn, I also moved to Brooklyn in 2020. So that's when I started getting in. Yes. Getting more involved and then started going to the games again when we could. And I'm just so to see the moves that this team has made since they were acquired by Joe and Clara and moved to Brooklyn. And just all the things that have changed Bed, Nijah and Seb holding it down and bringing in everybody else. Just an incredible front office to make these things happen. And the energy at Barclays on Sunday was insane. But gotta tell you, I would say both teams were extremely tired. And it was an Olympic year. Everybody was tired. Actually, Game five, I think, was the worst, worst performance from both of the teams in the whole series. And y'all have a lot to say about the refs. To which I say y'all always have a lot to say about the refs. Y'all about the refs in every single game. If you mad at the refs in game five, guess what. I'm mad at them in game four. I don't even think we should have went to game five, but I let that go because bad officiating is part of the game. Unfortunately, refs get wrong. They miss calls. That happens all time.

[A]

Happen.

[B]

So y'all mad now because it's the liberty that won, but y'all wouldn't have been saying nothing if it was the links that it won. So I don't really give a. That y'all don't like it because just hate New York. And you know what? That's fine.

[A]

It's fine.

[B]

I'm fine with it. Yeah, I'll carry that.

[A]

You're gonna have to hate that there.

[B]

You're just going to have to hate.

[A]

Yeah, because that's a fact.

[B]

I think they did this for me personally. And, yeah, I'm just. I cannot wait. The parade is today. When this episode out, I will probably be at the parade before your. Before I go to your show. Me and Laney, who, as a lot of you guessed or asked the queer community right away. Now, don't. Don't do this.

[A]

I mean, you're gay.

[B]

I'm not that gay. Is like, I'm getting over it, but I said that like it's co. But she. Laney is indeed named after Bet Nyjah. And I feel like this was just. It was just a beautiful way to cap an incredible season. I am so, so, so proud of my girls, and I cannot wait to come back and do it again next year. It was just a great. A great season of basketball for me. I enjoyed all of it, even the the weird Caitlin Clark hype and the way her fans do too much. I mean, I don't engage in the basketball stand wars online anymore, so I avoided a lot of that. No, because weren't we just talking about stands and how they don't have no goddamn. The WNBA also has stands who write.

[A]

So sports fans and pop fans, they're not too much.

[B]

Not too different. Actually, not at all.

[A]

Common fans will actually flip car over.

[B]

Being fair and objective, all that goes right out the window.

[A]

So sports fans get it popping right outside the arena stands a little more insidious, a little shadowy.

[B]

Right. Right.

[A]

When you don't see it coming.

[B]

So. But anyway, it was an incredible season, and I'm so happy for JJ when they announced JJ was the finals mvp.

[A]

Crazy, baby.

[B]

Barclays was crazy on Sunday, and Ellie really did come out and, you know, give us a praise break or something. When started getting rough, it was starting to get scary because, you know, the links came out strong. They came out heavy. They was, you know, close. I mean, it was. It's the Finals, you know, it's. It's. Whoever wins this gets the chip. Of course it's gonna be a crazy game. But, yeah, there was several moments of the crowd getting nervous, like, oh, please, please, please don't break our hearts like this. But, baby, when that. When the clock hit zero after overtime and the confetti rained down, I just almost wept. They played the theme from New York, New York, and it was just beautiful. It was such a moment. So. Of course, of course.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I mean, it's classic. That was the graduation at my. At my graduation. That was our commencement song in Oklahoma. Obviously not.

[A]

Oh, the recent one, my master's degree.

[B]

That I just got. But yeah, instead of pomp and circumstance, they played New York, New York.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Iconic. Anyway, shout out to the Liberty, and if you mad, guess what, you just have to stay mad.

[A]

Shooty's nuts mad after a finals.

[B]

The people who didn't want the Liberty to win.

[A]

I mean. I mean, in general, I think a championship finals or end championship ending always comes the mad folks.

[B]

Yeah, well, I'm not talking about Lynx fans. They should be mad. The rest of you just hate us. Oh, but that's your problem, not my problem. Those are your feelings to process.

[A]

Well, congratulations, Liberty. Congratulations, Ellie. Congratulations, New York Liberty fans. And yeah, how about we do that again next season?

[B]

Did you watch. Did you watch the Celtics and Knicks in the NBA opener last night?

[A]

Duh.

[B]

What'd you think?

[A]

So many sports and so much like, the athleticism was on full display. And it was really, like, refreshing to be back in the realm of the girls who were there to play for this particular game. And I was very. Also stunned by the amount of. Of plays as well as the running and the quarters.

[B]

Oh, yeah. Jason Tatum's performance, though.

[A]

Man. Jason Tatum's performance happened. That thing happened.

[B]

The sheer number of threes, that was quite a game.

[A]

So many.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I, you know, I mean, I.

[B]

Hate it had to be the Knicks, but the Celtics came out with a statement, you know?

[A]

You know, those Celtics, they are. They're here, they play basketball, and they mean it when they do. Mm.

[B]

I. I can't disagree.

[A]

Me neither. So that was kid fury sports shorts. We're gonna take a break and come right back. Hey, y'all, I don't know about you, but maybe this dating app fatigue thing the Internet is talking about is real. Cause I'm tired from swiping this way to that way. How many likes are too many likes? Is. Is that the bubble you tap? Should I send a message? I'm nervous. Oh, they sent a message. It's two words. Well, I don't know how to respond to that. It's too much. It's too much. And a lot of dating apps are all about pursuing someone else. But there's one that's carved out a space for you to find yourself. Field on field, an app where curious people come to connect. You have the breathing room to explore your own desires and go on a journey wherein the person you discover is yourself, you, friend. Because if you can't love on you, if you can't know all about you, if you can't get into you, how anybody else supposed to, Right on field, you have options, maybe more than you even think. With 20 sexuality and gender identities to choose from, you have the freedom to explore who you are and what you like in ways that you've never even imagined. Plus, there's no pressure to swipe. If you happen to skip someone's profile. You can always go back or undo a dislike, all at no extra cost. If you're looking for friends, connections, all kinds of things, and all kinds of forms, field is the place to do it. So download field. That's f e e l d, get it on the app store or google play. Go have some fun and meet yourself and maybe someone fun. When we're trying to make progress, life's curveballs often feel like taking one step forward and three backflips back. A chime checking account makes financial progress easier. With features like no maintenance fees or getting paid up to two days early with direct deposit and with fees in everything. And I mean everything. Concert tickets, airlines, movies, every video game. It's just like their fees and everything. And with Spot Me, Chime will spot you up to $200 when you exceed your balance. Sickening. Eligible members also get complimentary boosts to temporarily increase a friend's Spot Me limit. And when you give a boost, your friends can boost you back to temporarily raise your limit. Friendship make progress towards a better financial future with Chime. Open your account in two [e-mail] theread that's chime.com theread chime feels like progress Banking services and Debit card provided by the Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members. FDIC Spot Me eligibility requirements and overdraft limits apply. Boosts are available to eligible tribe members enrolled in SPAMI and are subject to monthly limits. Timing depends on submission of payment file fees apply at out of network ATMs. Okay folks, we are back and it is time for listener letters.

[B]

Yes it is. Send your Questions to AskTheRead Gmail.com we may read them aloud on the show. Show Our first letter this week comes from Tina who says I'm a 28 year old lesbian navigating a breakup with my 23 year old partner of 2 years. We broke up in February and have been on and off ever since. We've been drifting further apart over these last two months and she finally asked that we go no contact three weeks ago but we've both broken that no contact almost every single day, sometimes hanging out and having sleepovers but no kissing or sexual. I've been very open about wanting her back as a romantic partner and she's been very vague about her intentions. I saw that she had a new mutual follower so I found out who she is and asked my ex. My ex says she doesn't know who that is and that they don't interact and I chose to believe her. Despite this girl being her type in all the ways that I never was. I didn't interact with the girl's profile in the following days, but today I found out that I've been blocked by her. This felt like confirmation that they know each other and so of course I confronted my ex. She denied it and blew up and called me a crazy stalker and said that she can't live her life because of me because I stalk her and I stalk other people who know her. She also asked to go no contact again because of all this. Now sure I did look at her new follower and I did do a simple Google search to find out who the follower was, but I wouldn't call that stalking.

[A]

Sure.

[B]

And I gave her an ample amount of opportunities to be honest about the girl, but she gaslighted me for over a week about not knowing.

[A]

That's nice.

[B]

Nope. I'm disappointed at myself for not going with my gut. But I'm also mad as because she. She could have just not lied to me and not gaslit me into feeling absolutely paranoid. How do I respect her boundary of going no contact while also wanting to absolutely blow up on her? How do I get through the first week of no contact? Thanks, Tina.

[A]

So you are 28. This girl is 23.

[B]

Yes. Y'all dated for two years, broke up in February, but are still around or happy.

[A]

Okay. So I genuinely don't even know where to begin. Obviously, I think you need to move on from this person and that relationship. Y'all have broken up. You've, you know, you say you've made it clear or you've said to one extent that you would like to reenter the relationship. That's not what's going on here. So your course of action. I believe Ben should be moving on with your life as a person who is single and young and who has the opportunity to find love, fun, and things like that somewhere else in another relationship. I'm not really going to pick around with the definition of stalker here because I don't know how much it matters. What I do know is that you don't need to be googling or looking up who anybody, but especially your ex, is following, commenting on any of that stuff. Stuff. It's not helpful in any. Like, there isn't a single way that that's helpful for anybody.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You, for example, looking at this person who you haven't met, haven't conversed with, and being like, this person is my ex's type in every way that I couldn't be or whatever. It's time to exit the. What was the person's name?

[B]

Tina.

[A]

Exit the Tina and Marie.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Story bubble.

[B]

Story bubble.

[A]

And then let's just get into the Tina bubble and let's feel around in there. Let's ask ourselves some questions.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

So we. Because this is over and it's fine.

[B]

It is. It's over.

[A]

So let's have fun with us. Pour into us, ask ourselves questions about us so that we may have more information for the next person that comes along.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Why do you feel like you need to go and, you know, insta Snoop.

[B]

Googling her follower that felt Right to you. That you didn't think, God, I'm being deeply weird right now.

[A]

No. A lot of people do it.

[B]

Google who is fo you. Y'all Google the people who are following.

[A]

They do.

[B]

You can't be serious.

[A]

I wouldn't be surprised if Tina has like another friend or someone around them that does the same thing. It's like, yeah.

[B]

How would I even clock that you have a new follower?

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

This is what I'm saying.

[A]

I don't know how the girls know when this person unfollows that person. Person. I still don't know how they do that besides maybe going in on their page every day and checking. Like, I don't.

[B]

But that is categorically insane. Like, what?

[A]

But we hear about, oh, this person and this person unfollowed each other all the time.

[B]

But that's normally like stands stalking. Celebrity stuff, y'all. Are you regular people are doing this to other regular people?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, sorry. I think I agree with your ex that this is maybe not stalking in the legal sense, but in the colloquial. You doing too goddamn much. It's.

[A]

It's down the street.

[B]

Not only did you notice that I had a new mutual follower. That's weird.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You googled the. And then you came and talked to me about it.

[A]

That's a lot. There are so many steps that shouldn't have happened.

[B]

And you're like, oh, but you didn't tell me the truth. I don't go with you. Why I'm allowed to lie to you. Why are you coming to me about somebody I follow and who follows me when we don't even go together? Yeah. Make that make sense for me. I'm not getting it.

[A]

This is over. That's fine.

[B]

Needs to be.

[A]

Let's ask ourselves questions about how we got here. What we're discussing in this email so that we have have answers and resolutions moving forward.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Because you doing this to the next is not gonna not be weird. It's always gonna be weird. This is weird.

[B]

Correct. If you're looking for clarification on whether that is a weird thing to do. It is.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I were you, I would stop doing it. And if you can't, I would stop telling people that you're doing it.

[A]

At the very.

[B]

At the very least, stop telling people that you are going through their followers because they. And seeing if they have a new follower or seeing if they follow. Follow somebody new and Googling that person.

[A]

Because then you would at least I think be in the Majority of the group of folks that do this because.

[B]

I feel like most people, they do.

[A]

Aren'T going like, hey, right.

[B]

No, I think they're, I think they're correctly ashamed of their behavior.

[A]

Most people are doing it.

[B]

No, they know it's weird.

[A]

Oh, there isn't a win here when I discuss it publicly.

[B]

There's no way you can spin that when you talking to other people. That doesn't sound like, like, I think you need a hobby. Yeah, I think you need something to do. So, Tina, so there's the question here of like, how do you respect the no contact while being angry and wanting to blow up on her and, and getting through the first week of no contact. And I kind of feel like that answer is, is just as simple as it is complex, which is don't talk to her. Her, don't call her, don't text her, don't email her, don't look her up online. You know, don't Google her. Just leave it alone. That is, it's that easy, but it's also that hard. And then.

[A]

Well, it kind of reminds me of that 22 days nutritional meal plan thing. Remember didn't Beyonce, Beyonce.

[B]

And the vegan thing about it where.

[A]

He was like, oh, 22 days before your body. But it's kind of like, like many things where it takes your body kind of like 22 days to build a habit.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

It's going to. If you are as emotionally connected still to this person as you describe, it's gonna feel off and awkward and it's going to be difficult to just not speak to this person. To just set yourself up so that you're not constantly reminded of them or impulsively texting or whatever. But after a while, and it might be, may not be 22 days, but like, I think you just have to give it time. Start setting yourself up to not contact this person until you get used to it and it becomes a thing where it's like, oh, yeah, I haven't spoken to them in like three weeks, four weeks and I'm fine.

[B]

Yeah, it's always hardest at first.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I mean, if you can't. I was going to say, can you really not just, just. You just can't stop yourself. You feel compelled to reach out to this person. That might be a symptom of a bigger issue. You might need to reach out to a professional with help in that regard.

[A]

But it sounds like she was kind of like, oh, yeah, because this is fine, right?

[B]

No, but it is.

[A]

So maybe she needs.

[B]

Maybe you Need. Maybe you need to hear that this isn't. Y'all broke up.

[A]

Contact her at all.

[B]

Y'all broke up in February. And, like, lesbians, you continued to have sleepovers where you, like, held hands on the couch, but didn't. So you're still deeply in love with this girl, but you said, you know, I very much want her, and she's been vague about her intentions, so that is really all the answer you need right there.

[A]

Lesbians break up, but then they can't stop talking because they have to help the other one find a new house. Cause, like, it just wouldn't be right.

[B]

I mean, she's still my friend. What do you mean? It do be like that with us, but.

[A]

And then you're looking at houses together, and it's basically dating, and you're like, oh, this would be a great room for us to have the kid that we said we were gonna have.

[B]

Next thing you know, y'all are back.

[A]

Now you have a new house and a kid together.

[B]

Right? So. But the whole, you know, we've been broken up since February, and we've been drifting, drifting further apart over these last two months. This girl is trying to leave you alone.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And maybe she just hasn't been able to say that. Or maybe it was hard for her to say that until you decided to go googling the people who follow her, but sounds like she's found her voice now. And, yeah, maybe you need to give your phone to, like, your roommate or something. Do you need to physically not have your phone on you to not contact this girl? Whatever it is, I, I, I, I'm gonna go ahead and recommend a therapist for you the way I do for most people. But, yeah, this, I'm mad because she could have just not lied to me and not gaslit me. She did not gaslight you at all. That isn't what Gaslight. Please stop using Gaslight incorrectly. You had it right the first time when you said lied. She just lied. Yeah, she just lied to you. And that may not be. You know, that probably doesn't feel good, but she's allowed to lie to you. You. So I would take that as a hint that this is over and decide to move on with my life before I embarrassed myself further. That's what I would do if I were you.

[A]

Think I agree.

[B]

Yeah. You, you're mad and you want to blow up at her. Blow up in your journal. Blow. Go out with your friends and vent about how she lied about this. And, ah, this is exactly her type. I knew she was, you know, do that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You don't have to contact her for that. That so. Best of luck with you, Tina. Our last letter this week comes from Tone, who says, I'm writing to ask y'all if I'm overdoing it or if you think I'm justified in crashing out. Did I read this already about the friend who came? Never mind. So my friend and frat brother came down to hang with me in my city. Things were going great. We bar hopped at all my favorite places, and he seemed to really be enjoying himself. He did spill a cup of liquor in my very clean car and lit up a black and mild. Two things which annoy me, but I let it slide since he was from out of town. However, the last straw for me was at the end of the night, after partying and drinking, we decided to hit Waffle House. In true fashion.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We got our food to go and went back to my house to eat it. When we unpacked the bag of food, we noticed that they forgot to give us plastic utensils. So I went and got us both some forks from my kitchen. I scarfed my food down and went to shower while he finished his. When I came back, he had cleared the table. In my building, we have a trash chute, so he put the trash in there. Bro, this nigga threw away two of my forks. Okay, usually I wouldn't make it a big deal, but these were very nice forks and part of a set that I typically use to host nice dinner parties for my friends and family. I cannot find these forks just any damn where, and I'm gonna have to go buy a new set. Set, which costs over a hundred dollars. Recently, this friend asked to come hang again, and I told him no because of the fork situation. I didn't even add the fact that I have to get my car detailed because of the smoke and the liquor that he spilled.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

He thinks I'm overreacting, but I, of course, don't think I am. What do y'all think, though? Please help. Thanks, Tone, are you overreacting if you don't want to hang out with your friend, cuz he threw away two of your forks.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Mm.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

You thought he was gonna say something really crazy.

[A]

He said, I'm, like, still digesting it. I get it. You know, like, nice forks. Nice forks. You know, especially if they're, you know, maybe have to go a little out of the way. You can't just get back on jeffbazos.com and order a new set in two days. Is you. You Know that's inconvenient.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

If this is a good friend of mine.

[B]

Friend and frat brother.

[A]

That explains a lot. It's. I think it's just about saying, hey, here's some boundaries. Now, if you don't like those boundaries, then I'm not gonna hang out with you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But I think. I think it's about saying, hey, you accidentally. Or maybe you just whatever. For whatever reason, you threw away two of my expensive forks. In the future, just make sure you don't do that. Also, please don't smoke and drink in my car because I have to get a detailed now from the last time you did that, and that is inconvenient. Love you. You know, frat call, whatever that is. And then I think move on from there. If you mean maybe need, like, a little break because you're. I think sometimes friends need a break because you're perturbed about something, and it might even just be a little petty, but I think you're fair. Just be like, then I gotta go spend $117 now on new utensils or whatever. Cookware. Because for whatever reason, this nigga felt like he could just throw away.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

My utensils. Probably because he was drinking. A smoker in the car.

[B]

Right. Fucked up one thing about it. Thought he was being nice. Thought he was being great. Cleaning.

[A]

Right. He was actually. Which, you know.

[B]

Yeah. Trying to be a good housemate.

[A]

Come down. Maybe that should be in.

[B]

Sure.

[A]

In the mix.

[B]

Something to think about. Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. I think he's just saying, like, hey, please. These are things I'm a little particular about. Please respect that. The end.

[B]

I think so. I agree. I think not wanting to hang out because of forks might be a little bit of an overreaction. But also, it sounds like your friend did not really care or have any respect for, like, the damage that he caused or the. The hardship that this is putting you through. So there is that. I think if the friend was more like, like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry I spilled the liquor. Oh, my God, I'm so sorry I threw away your forks. You know, let me replace them or let me buy you a new set, that would be different. But it sounds like he's kind of like, why you tripping? It's just forks. In which case they're my forks. So I. I care for that. They could have been bluey forks. If they're mine, then sound might be more mad if it was bluey forks.

[A]

Probably like those.

[B]

Yeah. There's a risk for other people's belongings that seems to be missing here. But also. Also tone. It also seems like you have issues with speaking up and saying it when something. When people are pissing you off or doing something that makes you mad. Because, like, the first thing he said was, this spilled liquor in my car and lit up a black and mild, and I let it slide. Why?

[A]

Yeah, that's a very good point.

[B]

Why did you let him in your car with an open cup of liquor? I would have told him, nigga, you got to go put a lid on that. Why did you let him in your car with. Why did you let him. He lit up a black and mile. How. It's your car.

[A]

I think that's a very good point.

[B]

Tell that nigga no, you don't smoke in my car.

[A]

In the moment. Speak up, say something when you know that's a boundary. Don't let it slide. And then punish the person for having done it when you could have very easily been like, it's very much like the friend or anybody who you over to the house and shoes at the front door.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Even if you're not as shoes of the front door person. This is their house.

[B]

This is their house.

[A]

This is their car.

[B]

Right.

[A]

These are their forks. So it's just kind of a thing to your point of respecting that person and their boundaries. But also, don't be afraid to say.

[B]

To say something. Yeah.

[A]

The reason you would want to say something was laid out right there when this nigga spilled alcohol in your car and left the smelling like black in my.

[B]

And I mean, you're not very clear here, but it sounds like even when he threw the forks away, you didn't say nothing in that moment. You brought up the forks when he was like, hey, you know, I'm coming back to your city. Let's hang out. And you were like, no, nigga, you threw away my forks. It's like, why wouldn't you say something that night when you realized that I threw. Like, I just am not understanding this. This is this decision, I guess, or this behavior of like. Like somebody is pissing you off and really getting on your nerves, but you just don't say anything. That's how resentment builds up. And then you end up mad and. And reacting in a way that feels like too much because it was actually all this other shit building up behind it.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

And not just the fork. So I actually think both of y'all are in the wrong kind of like, you are doing a lot. But your friend doesn't seem to really respect your things either. So Yeah. I think this doesn't have to be the sort of situation where y'all stop being friends or whatever. Y'all just need to have a conversation and you need to say something like, yeah, you know, when you spilled liquor in my car, I would appreciated you saying, oh, my God, I can't believe I did that. When we get home, you know, I'll clean out your car. I'll wash the car mats and detail it. I brought my cigarette smoke eraser, you know, one of them weed smoke sprays or whatever. So I will spray out your car. Like, when you do something like that to other people's property, you do need to offer to fix it, offer to repair it, offer to make it better. So he needs to be a better friend and you need to be a bolder one. You need to find your big boy voice and speak up when people are doing that pisses you off.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

But good luck to you, Tone. Let us know how it goes. That is going to wrap up the listener letters for this week. If you have a question for us, send it on over to askthereadmail.com we'll be right back.

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[B]

I'm not even gonna say it this time because I don't either. But we. We've been clocked. Clocked. We have been clocked. So I'm gonna just not even say it no more.

[A]

I'm just doing my Baddies rant that I said I was gonna. That I had.

[B]

That I.

[A]

Okay, yeah. I'm gonna make this quick. Baddies is gonna get somebody killed. And not Baddies. It's. It's getting a little insane now. I'm not. I'm not interested in talking about all of the different elements and imaginations of this insane program and how it is destroying people physically and mentally, because that's entertainment, honey. And I grew up on fucking Jerry Springer, Ricky Lake, flavor of love. Yeah, Bad Girls Club. So I'm not really interested in getting into the weeds about how ghetto and trashy the show is. We know that.

[B]

We know trash.

[A]

That's not what I'm interested in. What I'm saying is Baddie's gonna get somebody seriously fucked up. And here's why. Natalie Nunn and Lemon Pepper have the game and the recipe all fucked up.

[B]

Okay. I don't even know what she did this time.

[A]

It's not even about any one specific thing as it is the overall mission statement of Baddies.

[B]

Okay?

[A]

Today.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

Got it. Now, Baddies, for those of you who are fortunately unfamiliar, is a web show that was based. That is based on a former Oxygen series called Bad Girls Club, which is just about. About a bunch of young women getting together and drinking and beating the shit out of each other before they go to the club and then after they go to the club. That lasted, I don't know, 15 seasons or so. 13, doesn't matter. Natalie Nunn was once a part of it. Now, here's the difference between Baddies and Bad Girls Club. That, I think, is the specific ingredient that is vital to making sure coffins and urns are not involved, like.

[B]

On.

[A]

Bad Girls Club and many shows like it early. The real world, whatever. If you fight somebody, they send you home.

[B]

Oh, that's true. They did. It was. Fighting was an automatic ejection.

[A]

Now, that is not to say that production did not expressly say filming in scenes up.

[B]

That was the whole point.

[A]

So that their cast members would fight each other.

[B]

That was the whole point.

[A]

That was the point.

[B]

Yes, it was.

[A]

However, they were smart enough, probably exclusively for legal reasons, to make sure that cast members, prior to filming, knew if you physically fight one another, people are going home.

[B]

Cause the show's not trying to open themselves up to lawsuits or anything else from somebody getting seriously hurt.

[A]

It even got to a point where Bad Girls Club introduced some random white lady who claimed to be a psychologist or a therapist who was crazy Hurt her damn self, who would then come in every other episode and be like, well, Keisha, how are you feeling? Like you're growing. So they tried to position it, at least from a production standpoint, as if these girls have gone, well, wild. Let's see if they can recognize that, you know, certain things need to change. No one ever changed. We knew that they wouldn't.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But they at least had the sense to say, listen, we can't just allow you to come and beat the fuck out of yourself.

[B]

Production had some morals now, damn it. They had some morals.

[A]

I wouldn't even call it morals as much as I would strategy.

[B]

Oh, okay, yeah, you're right. You're right.

[A]

Baddies, on the other hand, is the exact opposite. If you do not fight somebody, they're sending you home, you're boring, and you don't, quote, unquote, stand on business. Standing on business now just means fighting. It doesn't mean any. It doesn't mean, like, believe what you say, like gp like, it means nothing. Standing on business just means fighting. It just means you fought somebody.

[B]

Damn.

[A]

Okay, but they literally now craft it naturally, like, I'm talking about the host, executive producer, or they craft it now from auditions to filming, where you basically must fight someone in order to be considered A, a baddie and B, like entertaining and, you know, not boring and so on. And so. So if you're not getting into any fights, it's almost like you immediately get written off. And they, like, openly say it.

[B]

Yeah, yikes.

[A]

They be at these auditions talking about, look to the bitch to your left and spit on her. It's just somewhat like, show your titties now. Suck em or beat the bitch ass if she don't suck your titties. It's just like the most unhinged with those shows. There has to be an element that's like, sure, we're here to watch fighting. Because there is a part of the population that enjoys watching people fight on tv, physically and so on.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Like, fine, it is what it is. Like I said, I'm not here to critique that. It aggravates me to an extent that you are openly exploiting these people who in many cases are going home to some bullshit, which is why they're here in the first place, because they sadly feel like baddies is somehow going to be a ticket anywhere besides the emergency room.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So, like, to then basically be like, well, fight this bitch, otherwise you're not gonna be on this ghetto ass show. And then also corral like half a dozen Women around who don't even get to film, but they're called replacements that you then bring on camera maybe every now and then. And so when they get on camera, what do they do? Fight the first bitch they can see so they can stay on camera. At least the bad girls club left the goddamn replacements at home until someone was sent home to replace them with. You can't do that on baddies. Cause y'all bitches don't send nobody home for fighting. The recipe is fucked. And this isn't how you do this. The problem is when you put people who are dying to change their situation, their real life situations in one way or the other, and for whatever reason have been led to believe that this is a vehicle for them to do so, they're going to go to extreme lengths, especially when you're. You basically set the foundation as this is what it needs to be.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To stay there. Like, it's going to get to. To a point where it goes the fuck too far. And I don't want to hear anybody gag, especially Chin when it happens. Because now it's been like a while where you get to sit back and just be like, well, the girls are standing on business. I don't what to say. And nobody has parked your long face ass.

[B]

I mean, and are they standing on business? Are they standing on mess? Is it.

[A]

You know what they're standing on? Pieces of the lace front wigs that they brought in, thinking they would stay on their heads for whatever reason.

[B]

No, it won't.

[A]

They're standing on broken glass. They're standing on lashes. They're standing on highlighters.

[B]

Lashes is crazy. Like, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Again, I'm not like critiquing baddies. I get why it's.

[B]

Baddies is uniquely terrible though. Of course it's pretty bad. Like, what is the. What's the aspiration behind baddies? You want to be the next Chrisean?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Okay, that was a joke. That was. That was derisive.

[A]

Except for the fact that it's real. It's rooted in truth.

[B]

Oh, you're right. You were right. You were right.

[A]

Like, well, yes, they absolutely want to.

[B]

Be the next guy. They do want to be the next. But that's. You see how that's sad?

[A]

I do, but small thing. I can't. I can't fix that.

[B]

I can't change that.

[A]

Right. I'm one faggot just trying to stay on 10 toes. Literally. I can't walk. So like, please shut up. At the very least, it's like you 40 year old woman in a 20 year old's wig.

[B]

What are you doing?

[A]

You at the root of this need to make some changes because the girls are gonna fight anyway. Sure, they're going to fight anyway. My God, you openly exploiting them, talking about, hey, we're on the beach in Dominican Republic and we're waiting to see if these replacements are going to stand on business.

[B]

What business was to say, are they.

[A]

These girls, they're barely paid.

[B]

Right. It's not even their business that they standing on. It's whatever production done cooked up for them to whatever beef they've been asked to participate in.

[A]

It's not even, oh, Jim, the fighting and ratchet shit. It is what it is. I'm like, at the very least, y'all have to start making. Creating consequences for these physical altercations.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Even if it isn't something as, you know, urgent and immediate as what Viacom did, which was the real world challenge. Bad girls, all them shows, if you make a closed fist swing, you are checked out. This bitch. Like, no discussions. It got to a point where producers would just approach CT and be like, well, girl, you know what this means? Like, they didn't even have to break it down anymore.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So whether it's like a three count rule, I don't know, Something has to happen. But you can't just keep, you know, inviting these 19, 20 year old, 21 year old girls to a fucking convention center in the middle of, of Ohio somewhere and then tell them to beat the fuck out of strangers to be on this show where they would continue to beat the fuck out of strangers and then possibly do a season and a half of that and still be broke. Either that or the crimson chin needs to get in the pain and take these licks. Cause you the one corralling a lot of men.

[B]

I blame you. Miss, Ms. Chin. I think definitely it's her. Yeah, there's some stuff. And I love ghetto shit.

[A]

I love, I love it, I love, I love it.

[B]

But it's something about the baddies and the jostling cabarets that I just cannot.

[A]

Watch because the fighting on those things are so overly produced and exploitative that it's like gross.

[B]

Yeah, it's not natural fun fight. Like it needs to. The fight needs to develop naturally. Just two people in the house who don't really vibe with each other and they bicker, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

Sometimes the girls fight where it's like, oh, you know, in real life or offline, this bitch said such and such and such about my baby.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Or she tried to fuck my baby father or whatever. Let's fight. Or she said this about my sister, whatever. But then a lot of it is also, like, this person snatched my wig off at the auditions because, you know, Sapphire told them to.

[B]

They snatched my wig off because they.

[A]

Knew that that would get them all season. Exactly.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yuck.

[B]

That's pretty bad. That's pretty bad. Yeah, that's pretty bad.

[A]

All I'm saying is someone's gonna get sincerely hurt, like, and then somebody's gonna.

[B]

Get sincerely sued out of business. That they didn't allow fighting on other reality shows, shows for a reason. That is for a reason. These security guard y'all be hiring that just have on a.

[A]

Just.

[B]

Just some big. With a shirt that says security. They, you know, the goal is really to prevent the fights from happening. Usually, you know, we don't want people to take it that far, but if they do take it that far, they go home.

[A]

I don't mind even a situation where it's like, again, and we're filming a show. These two individuals have real beef because of whatever they want to fight each other. Let them run their ones, give them their 30 seconds to fight. Head up. Oh, whatever. So we can get it out of the way. Because when we go to the club, we don't want it to be a hot mess or something. And so the girls fight. Security breaks it up after 15 to 30. Now it's like, let that shit go. If y'all fight again, one of y'all bitches are going home. Something like that. So you still get the fighting element. And it's not like you're trying to shy away from it, but when you're being like, if you don't fight someone, you're boring. You don't stand on business, Chop. You suck at life. What are you talking about?

[B]

I'll just be that. But, you know, I'm a different person. I'm not. These girls, like you said, they're. They're going after people who. I was about to say, can't you do something else? But if those women felt like they had other viable options, they probably would be doing that. This is something they can do. Put on a wig and fight. That's very accessible.

[A]

Anybody can do it.

[B]

Anybody can do that. So. Oof. And I bet you they don't even make money like that. Probably like $50 an episode or something.

[A]

The thing is, some of them probably make more money than they are used to or for what they feel like is required to them.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And then they're around Other people who are making even more money because they've now been on baddies for, like, two, three seasons. And even that money is not like, oh, my life is forever changed. It's worth it that I've lost five teeth and I can't really see or hear out of my left ear, and.

[B]

I don't have custody of my kids no more, but it was worth it.

[A]

Like, that's not a situation, I think, for anybody.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, no, sorry.

[A]

I'm done.

[B]

Well, yeah, I actually think it's about time for us to go ahead and get Natalie Nunn out of here. I think she's more of a problem than anything else. But I. I want to talk about just a couple of things very briefly, very quickly, and then I'm gonna move on. I want to talk about my daughter again. Obsessed. Some of you have had some questions. She is a cavapoo. She's almost 16 weeks old. She'll get up to, like, 12 to 15 pounds. Yes. She is named after Bet, Nigel, Laney. That is just. If I. There's a lot of questions. Those are, like, the most common ones. What I want to talk about, though, is people being weird about Lainey. Part two. I talked about this before, just some of the things y'all have done. And I realized the other day that I probably should have got a less cute dog. I. I should have gotten a dog that. I mean, I love Lainey. I'm not getting rid of her or anything like that, so slow your fingers down. But. But she's so cute that other people can't stop themselves or can't seem to stop themselves from being weird. And for the most part, I understand it. Like, she's adorable. So I let y'all have it. Please stop telling me how easy it would be, though, to kidnap my dog. Three people over the past week have come up to me while I'm with her. Oh, my God, your puppy's so cute. How old is she? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they're like, oh, my gosh, she's so friendly. It would just be so easy to steal her.

[A]

I feel like someone said that to.

[B]

Me once about, I'm a steal on you. What about, why would you say that to me? One man, I was walking her on the leash, trying to walk her on the leash, trying to get her to learn how to do that, and she stopped to talk to play with some man, and he's all into it, and then he was like, oh, my gosh, she's so cute. I just Want to take her with me? And I said, oh, ha ha. Everybody says that. This nigga opened up the backseat of his car and was like, come here, girl. Come here.

[A]

I would have held up my phone as I dialed.

[B]

Do you want to go to prison?

[A]

Like, oh, I'm gonna call the police.

[B]

It isn't. That isn't funny or cute to me. She's a four pound dog. And I think what it really is is that, like, I'm very well aware that she would be easy to steal. That's why I'm nervous. I. I want to keep her locked up inside 24 7, but that's not good for her.

[A]

Right?

[B]

I have to take her outside. I have to let her be part of the world. But then I have to stay super vigilant when I'm outside because y'all are saying and doing weird like that.

[A]

People are weird.

[B]

Making little coaxing noises at my dog with the back seat of your car open. Are you serious? Now I have to pick her up and run? Now we have to run.

[A]

I mean. And the worst part about that is people do that. They do just, like, steal dogs up off the street.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's just extremely cute.

[A]

So it's like, why? That's like, if you're walking home at 9pm from insert bodega and someone is walking past you and is like, oh, you're so pretty. It would be so easy to, like, murder you right now or drag you into this nearby.

[B]

You're so fine. I just want to bind you up and take you to my fucking lair and have my way with you. What?

[A]

I guess that is something that could happen. Why do we.

[B]

Does this feel like a normal thing to say to a person? It. I mean, it creeps me out to. To the point now where I'm like, maybe I need to stop. People don't usually ask to hold her. Only one person has asked to hold her, and she was in. She lives in my building, and she was taking her dog downstairs. And I was so jealous because her dog is set, so he's very chill and acting like a normal person who's done something and been somewhere before. Lainey's acting a fool, all excited. But anyway, she dropped her dog's leash so she could hold Laney, but I was like, girl, you're. Your baby is wandering around the lobby now. Your baby is wandering around the lobby because you wanted to hold my dog. I would never let a stranger in public hold her, though. And this is exactly why. Because if you just take off with her Now I have to chase you down and kill you.

[A]

Yeah, I have to age.

[B]

Now I have to kill you.

[A]

And then when I catch you, I have to.

[B]

You're not allowed to breathe anymore. Yeah, I get that she's so cute and so small. That's why I have a lot of grace for y'all being weird about her. But that's a walking line. And do not.

[A]

Have you not seen other very cute dogs when you're out with Lane?

[B]

I see very cute dogs all the time. What I don't do, I might say, oh, my God, cute dog, and keep walking. I've never, never stopped somebody to be like, I have to talk to you about your dog. But if I did, I would never say, oh, my God. She would be so easy for me to take and raise as my own.

[A]

I promise you, 9.5 times out of 10, when I see a really cute dog in public, I don't even say anything. At most, I'll outward, I. I'll. Out loud, I'll go or something like that as we're walking.

[B]

So many people do that.

[A]

That's it. I keep it moving.

[B]

Fine. I don't even mind you stopping us to talk about her.

[A]

I'm sure you didn't.

[B]

I mean, I, you know, I don't do great with strangers, but they love her so much. She brings people so much joy. That is actually very good for me.

[A]

If they also have a dog and the dogs are kicking it, cool.

[B]

But see, I can't do that because she's not fully vaccinated yet.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

So your dog can't get all up in her face.

[A]

Right.

[B]

So I have to keep her at a distance, which she hates.

[A]

Now we're just having conversations, right?

[B]

And you talking to her, but you really talking to me, but you're talking to her. And it's weird, but she makes people happy. I get to see the best side of people, and so that is nice. But I also get to see some of their weirder sides because why would you say to me, it would be so easy to steal your dog. It would be so easy to punch in your fucking eye, too. But why would I say that out loud?

[A]

That's something like, you know, community. Neemaw. Community, who raised y'all is like. Like, be careful out there now. You know, this dog is small or something. And even that would be like, thanks so much for that reminder of something I already considered and has made me angry.

[B]

I know that. That's why I'm holding her to my breast in this baby rap carrier Thing. That's literally why she's. She. I have two. I have one in gray and one in black so that they match more outfits, but I literally have those because she is tiny.

[A]

Yeah, she's a little thing, so.

[B]

Oh, my God, your dog.

[A]

Oh, she would just be outside now. Cause once that snow comes.

[B]

Right, right. And she already.

[A]

She really can't be too, too small out when it's super, super cold.

[B]

So we're trying to, you know, have our time outside, do all that while we can.

[A]

Oh, but she has. She got bubble coats and shoes.

[B]

Oh, yeah, she does.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

She actually has multiple coats.

[A]

She got layers. It's fine.

[B]

She does.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

But one woman literally, like, I just.

[A]

Don'T to be weird.

[B]

And she's. She's a cavapoo. They're very friend. That's a very friendly breed. They love people stand people. And one woman said, she's so friendly. It's like, you're not even her mom. She'll go to anybody. And I'm like, this is the first person who told me that Lainey would be easy to steal. She threw in that about she's so friendly, anybody could just take her.

[A]

Why do you see how you said that to me in real life?

[B]

I am her mom.

[A]

And now I have to process that.

[B]

You said that am her mom. I know. This is the thing. I know she's friendly. I know that she loves everybody, will talk to anybody, will go to anybody. I know that. I keep a very good close eye on her for that reason. Reason. The same reason.

[A]

Same thing.

[B]

People who have friendly toddlers don't just let their toddlers run around and hang out with any old fucking body because they know their kid will go talk to anybody.

[A]

I don't let her come up to link, especially if we're at home. She's like, oh, my goodness, thank you. To thank you for coming to my house. Here are the toys. Throw them. Let's be friends.

[B]

And you need to do it now.

[A]

Imagine if somebody was like, oh, my God. It's like she hates you. It's like you've met. Like, she doesn't care about you at all.

[B]

Who are you talking to?

[A]

It's almost like she's like, she could be my dog.

[B]

You think I don't know that? I'm far more attached to her than she is to me. I've only had her for a couple of weeks. Like, we'll get there. But who are you talking to?

[A]

Why do you think this is, like, friendly conversation? My friend, a friend of Mine was saying to me about her. Her child. She was saying how, I guess people in the mix, friends, family who were saying how, oh, my. The child looks like nothing like you. You know, like they.

[B]

Candace. Cause Cam do look like his daddy.

[A]

Like they look like the other parent.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And I said to myself, first of all, disagree. Secondly, why were you feeling like saying to a person that carried a human being in their body for 10 months.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And then had them ripped out violently? Why would you feel like. It's like, oh, my gosh, like you had nothing to do with it? Why do you feel like that's like, even if this baby looks like spitting it, like, exactly like the other parent.

[B]

Yeah. I assure you, he is mine. He don't have to look at like me for me to have birthed him.

[A]

Oh, look like his daddy, look like his mama. Such and such. These are things, sure. But, girl, it's like you had this baby don't look shit like you. It's almost like you were just there. Are you sick?

[B]

And that might be the sort of. I don't kill you, right.

[A]

I will murder you.

[B]

That's the sort of thing where you might be okay with it coming from, like friends or family or people you know, don't ever want.

[A]

Nobody might. I can't think of a living bitch.

[B]

But you for sure. Cannot a stranger come up to me talking to me like that? Who. Who are you? Who invited you to us and our business? It wasn't me. Point that nigga out, please, so I could tell them where they got me fucked up.

[A]

I don't give a fuck if you are this baby's godparent.

[B]

Real?

[A]

You don't tell me the person that carried this around threw up, couldn't drink, couldn't smoke, Feet swollen.

[B]

No.

[A]

Rough. No. Swollen. And all of the other horrible things y'all keep saying to me about pregnancy on TikTok, you not gonna tell me. Oh, this baby don't give a fuck about. You look nothing like you, bitch. You just carried them.

[B]

He's so sweet. He'll go to anybody. Yes, but I'm his mother.

[A]

Oh, well, it's great that we're in the hospital, because this is where you're gonna need to be.

[B]

Do people with very cute babies and toddlers, do other people come to you and be like, oh, my God, your baby. I could just take him?

[A]

No, actually, some people do.

[B]

You could.

[A]

Some people do, too.

[B]

You could just take him.

[A]

Some people do that.

[B]

Okay. And I. And. And here's the thing. I understand y'all are saying this with zero intent to actually steal my dog. You know, assuming I. I'm right, I'm assuming that who opened his car door.

[A]

He might have really took up that. That.

[B]

For the rest of you, I. I don't think you would actually take her. I just want you to think about what you are saying.

[A]

Exactly.

[B]

To a very nervous new mother. I already don't want her to be nowhere near y'all. I already don't want that. I have to let her go outside. It's good for her. She needs it. So I have to. So I have to. But please be careful about the words you choose to use when you are talking to me about my damn baby like that. That's all I'm saying. There's nothing she would be so easy to steal. That doesn't make me laugh. That doesn't warm my eyes.

[A]

Unless somebody's, like, talking about someone's cute baby. You meet their baby in the airport, wherever the fuck, and you're like, oh, you want to come home with me? Oh, you just come home with me. If you don't shut your motherfucking ass, y'all.

[B]

Pedophile. Who are you? Why would you say that? Why would you say that? That felt right.

[A]

I don't care about your intentions when it comes to this. Don't say strange things in a world where people are strange and dangerous.

[B]

Yes, it's. It's the. I'm assuming no ill intent, which is why I'm trying to be nice about this. But I'm letting y'all know now to stop saying that to me. Just don't do it.

[A]

Yeah, the dogs. The thing with, like, ever so much. She'd be so easy to steal. So fucking stupid.

[B]

Yes, please don't do that. And also, very, very quickly, this Trump ad about Kamala Harris. Have you seen the one about Detroit? The one about trans prisoners getting health care? So I'm gonna ignore the fact that the ad is, like, you know, obviously designed to provoke anti trans sentiments in people. I just want to point out the absolute absurdity of the whole tagline being, Kamala is for they them. Trump is for you. Because we. I know y'all hate pronouns. I know y'all do. And y'all hate English so, so bad. But you are also the they them.

[A]

Like, I just like, we need to talk about this. We have to talk about this. I hate pronouns. I'm tired of the pronouns. You have have them.

[B]

It's he or she. But we say they all the time. Unidentified person or people.

[A]

I. I'm I hate. I hate it.

[B]

I said this is it. This is it. I know what y'all are trying to do here. Like, the transphobia is very, very obvious here. But Kamala is for they, them. Trump is for that. First of all, trans prisoners continuing to receive state funded health care does not bother me any more than any other prisoner continuing to receive state funded health care. I think that's the bare minimum the state can do when they decide to imprison you is make sure that you still have some access to health care, which I'm sure is quite shit. I'm sure it's bad.

[A]

But you should have it.

[B]

But you should have it. Yes. So the ad already didn't move me in that way, but the whole, oh, well, here we go. We're gonna really hit them with this pronoun thing.

[A]

This is for they. Them also, you know, presidential race. There's supposed to be for them, for a nation. So, like, again, by definition of the word. Yeah, multiple people. Like a nation full of people, right? So them and they.

[B]

Kamala is supposed to be for them and for you, they're supposed.

[A]

Do you see how you can also, like, I. I hate this. I hate this.

[B]

It's that stupid, though. I'm like, y'all niggas really did not think this through, whoever was in charge of the ad. And I bet it's doing. I bet it's a big hit with the Trump supporters. I bet they thought that was super fucking clever. Again, cuz, English is not something y'all give a fuck about.

[A]

But, yeah, so you. You stupid. So this stupid shit you would look for, Dumbass ass.

[B]

You're just a dumbass. I cannot wait. Well, hold on, right? Hold on.

[A]

I don't know what you about to say I can't wait for here.

[B]

I was about to say, I cannot wait for this election to be over. But I need Trump to not. I desperately need Trump to not win. I remember saying this eight years ago and that going so, so horribly. So I do want. I obviously do not want Donald Trump to be back in office. Maybe, you know, I can't wait for this nigga to actually go to prison. That would be great. Can't wait for him to suffer more consequences along the lines of Rudy Ghirardelli, et cetera, et cetera. Like, all that would be wonderful. But, man, the. The level of dumbassery plaguing this country, this is unprecedented levels. And. And let's be clear. Y'all have been stupid my whole life. Life. But I've never seen anything Quite this blatant. This is just really bad.

[A]

It's just, you know, I don't want to sound like, you know, super aged, but. Yeah, social media and the visibility of every corner of everything now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And everyone's insistence on being a part of that.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah. Everywhere you turn it's like, oh, yeah, y'all are fucking ridiculous. And also have a huge, A huge amount of power in choosing who gets to tell me what I can do.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And that's where we're living. So, yeah, I've always known that, but it's just, it's on constant display now how ridiculous and fucking hypocritical, violent, contradictory.

[B]

People are all day, every day, day. So, yes, Kamala Harris is for them. And she's supposed to be. She is.

[A]

And you, because you is part of.

[B]

To be. Donald Trump is not looking out for you. The same Donald Trump who's going to cut taxes on the richest people. And I mean, y'all are seeing it now with your, with federal income taxes, your tax returns being different all of a sudden. You're not getting refunds. And you're seeing it now. You want to go right back to that. Half the food in America is not even safe to eat because Trump got rid of like, the fda.

[A]

What fish can even have a ham cheese sandwich.

[B]

First thing Trump is going to do is finally dismantle the aca. So millions of Americans who depend on it for insurance to cover life saving medication won't have it, that sort of thing. But y'all want to focus on trans prisoners getting health care like every other prisoner. It just feels stupid and disingenuous.

[A]

And y'all should be embarrassed for feeling, for like feeling connected or empowered by this type of agile problem, because it's like, girl, they think you're stupid. Like, they know that and they're not wrong.

[B]

Right.

[A]

You know, like, they know that you are stupid. They know that they have, like zero intention on doing anything beneficial for you as a citizen of the nation.

[B]

Oh, they'll never do that. For sure.

[A]

Not. But they know if they can say, hey, guess what? This celebrity that's running for president again is bold and wide enough to say fuck trans people just like you do. That's enough for these mongrels to be like, yep, that's my president.

[B]

I'm just gonna need you to look at every other aspect of your life and maybe make a decision based off that. That's just. Again, that's just me, though.

[A]

Cause the. They them who works at your, you know, the department store that's 20 miles away from your house and the only one in your city. City that they them outside of you. Not harassing, bothering, assaulting, killing them. Lean in. Couldn't give a solitary living fuck shitter damn about anything to do with you.

[B]

No.

[A]

So you know who is actively ruining your life life in this conversation?

[B]

The go is the Republican party big citrine. Citrines are lovely. Citrines are lovely. Donald Trump is close enough. Yeah, close enough. I knew who you meant. And yeah, please don't fall for very basic anti trans rhetoric like please don't. If you listen to this show, you're probably not susceptible to it anyway, but it's true. Tell your dumbass cousins who are reposting it on Facebook.

[A]

Yeah, tell them couple you with people in your life.

[B]

Clip this for those dumb. Oh my God, speaking of dumbass, I'm done with my read. But do you remember when Cardi, the whole Cardi cheated while she was pregnant thing and we said do think that a pregnant woman like do you think your dick is gonna tickle the baby or something?

[A]

I think I said yes.

[B]

Why? Did I just see a video today, of course of a woman on the street asking like questions about women's bodies to men and one of the questions was, do you think sex during pregnancy is safe? And why did the say, oh no, man, I don't really think so. Like, what if I accidentally touch the baby? Like what if I. What if I disrupt them or something? Like, what if I did that? I said said, oh, I was joking.

[A]

No, they really, I was joking. You n says cervix offset truly believes another man's penis was the like massaging the head of his newborn.

[B]

Oh my God. I said, well, when I said that on my show a few weeks ago, I was joking. I was making fun of how dumb. Like, oh God, how stupid would you have to be? Ha.

[A]

And that's something that I feel like HBO's Real Sex debunked. Like that's some.

[B]

You could just look it up.

[A]

That has been so like Google is look it up. Like, let's just look it up and.

[B]

Skip past the AI search results cuz those be wrong.

[A]

So wrong.

[B]

Skip right past that and go down to the actual verified sources website.

[A]

I promise you it will 30 seconds of your life.

[B]

You know what? You're not. No, the baby is not getting ticklish because of the head of your penis. That isn't happening.

[A]

Your baby is also not on their eighth birthday in the middle of happy birthday. Gonna be like, yeah, fuck all that shit. I just had a memory come back to me, mama. What exactly was happening on 12-13-19? Like no one's.

[B]

It's not. Y'all are. Every time I think, oh, I've correctly assessed how simple people can be.

[A]

You got it. Y'all proved me wrong an extra couple of miles. The girls are suffering in ways that.

[B]

I can't even fathom. You understand? The stupidity goes deep, nigga. I don't get it.

[A]

Mind blowing.

[B]

Oh, I said, let me just make sure I tell Kefury that I saw no a safe surprised at all today that he didn't think sex while pregnant was safe because his dick might touch the baby. Yeah, they really think this not going to happen, buddy. But again, feel free to look that up. A little science. This honestly should have been covered in high school at the latest, but I.

[A]

Feel like it was.

[B]

You know, I was going to say, depending on where you went to school, it probably might have been. I've known this for such long time. Might have been. Might have been. But yeah, at this big age, big grown non virgin selves.

[A]

It's like every day they tell us they don't want to read. They won't do it.

[B]

But reading is so fun.

[A]

I enjoy it.

[B]

I like it a lot. It's great for me. I have a library card and everything.

[A]

There isn't. I genuinely don't think there's a day that goes by where I'm not like, I'm curious about this thing. Let me look at it.

[B]

Yes. When Laney will let me read. I don't. I don't have time for much, but, you know, I. I just spent two and a half years reading all day, every day, so.

[A]

Right.

[B]

I'm good. But yeah, y'all should really just get into it. Opens up whole new worlds. There's all kinds of adventures waiting on you inside a book. They weren't lying. Lavar Burton didn't lie. There's just so much.

[A]

All that word and a classic.

[B]

Did that man not sacrifice in the 80s and 90s for you niggas and this is how you repay him?

[A]

Whitney literally said verbatim. Take a look.

[B]

It's in the book.

[A]

It's in a book. Jesus.

[B]

Anyway, that wraps up this week's episode of the show. Check us out on social media at this is the Read. Our website is thistheread.com. this is the read.com. our merchandise is [e-mail]. any announcements from you before we head out?

[A]

Lifeisbettertour.com is where you can go to find tickets for my standup show. I will be in New York people for me here in New York later today. I will see you in Houston, Texas on the 15th of November, then Dallas on the 16th of November, then New Orleans on the 21st of November and then Miami on the 1st of December December. Get your [e-mail] Follow me on Patreon.com Kid Fury we're uploading all kinds of fun things with more to come and I believe that is it.

[B]

All right y'all take care of yourselves. We will see you next week.

[A]

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