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The Real Deal Landman Show
Hosted by Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson · EN
The Real Deal Landman Show pulls back the curtain on the fascinating world of land and energy professionals, offering an authentic counterpoint to Hollywood's dramatized version. Join veteran landmen Jerris Johnson and Drew Hopkins as they serve up hilarious real-world stories, expert insights, and candid conversations with industry legends. From oil fields to renewable energy projects, discover the true adventures, challenges, and triumphs of the professionals who secure the energy future.
Connect with the Real Deal Landman Show on LinkedIn and check out RealDealLandman.com
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Episode 44: You Down with IPP? (Kyle Reynolds)
2d ago00:44:57Tap to summarizeKyle Reynolds is the Immediate Past President of the American Association of Professional Landman. He is also about to become an inaugural member of the “Real Deal Landman Eats.”The former landman royalty takes a breath after his presidency and speaks with Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson about what he learned from his interactions with the 11,000+ AAPL members across the United States. Among the important issues discussed were the speculated impacts of AI and stagnant day rates. What seems certain is that the profession will undergo changes that will create numerous opportunities to evolve and engage in a broader spectrum of land and energy. It’s also guaranteed that Kyle will continue to be a leader, a friend to the industry, and a fan and adventurer of interesting eats. The next time you see Kyle, introduce yourself, shake his hand, and thank him for a job well done.RDLS continues to grow! Be sure to follow on LinkedIn for landman job postings, industry news, and shameless plugs for the show.
Transcribe →Episode 43: Stack Your Oil and Gas Data with Kyla Lawson
4w ago00:43:45Tap to summarizeRecent episodes of the Real Deal Landman Show have emphasized the innovative technological landscape, including AI, data centers, and fractional investment opportunities in oil and gas assets. (If you enjoy geeky, tech discussions, be sure to check out past episodes.)To get the greatest effectiveness out of your AI initiatives, it’s important to have clean data. The StackDX platform is comprehensive and offers numerous features, but what many customers appreciate is the value it adds to the data they already own. In the first truly international episode, Jerris joins Kyla Lawson of Stack Technologies in Calgary to talk about farming, career beginnings, building and selling EnergyLink, and now, the proliferation of StackDX in North America. Connect with Kyla and Stack on LinkedIn and learn more about the platform at StackDX.com
Transcribe →Episode 42: Oil and Gas Investing for Everyone with Tokenized Energy
Jun 900:46:21Tap to summarizeSo many listeners of the Real Deal Landman Show work in the oil and gas industry, yet how many own assets themselves? The RDLS welcomes back Tim Pawul (previously on Episode 20) and introduces Chip Simmons and Adrian Macias of Tokenized Energy. Recent episodes have explored many thoughts about artificial intelligence, data centers, and the rapidly approaching future of the landman profession. This conversation builds on those concepts, arguing that technology has now made it possible for anyone to start building a portfolio of oil and gas investments with a smaller initial contribution than you might think.After you watch or listen to the full episode (and subscribe, of course), be sure to check out https://tokenizedenergy.com/ to learn how to further your journey as a real deal landman… or geologist… or engineer… or HR rep… or… Disclaimer: The information discussed on this podcast is for informational and educational purposes only and is not intended as financial, investment, tax, or legal advice. Opinions expressed are those of the hosts and guests and may not reflect current market conditions. You should not rely on this information as a substitute for professional advice tailored to your individual situation.
Transcribe →Episode 41: Catfish, Software, and Data Centers with Jake Anderson
May 2900:49:38Tap to summarizeIn case you needed more proof that Drew Hopkins is the main attraction on the Real Deal Landman Show, this episode introduces another fascinating aspect of his life: catfish noodling. Watch the full episode video and see a picture of the biggest monster (literally) that he has caught.We were pleased to have Jake Anderson of PV Case with us. Jake and his team built an incredible product for scouting and identifying sites for renewable energy projects. It has scaled worldwide and has incorporated critical attributes for data center development. And for those who have been following the jaw-dropping numbers about data centers, Jake offers cautionary wisdom to question what we see in the headlines. Contact Jake at jake@pvcase.com and take a look at the PVCase Prospect tool: https://pvcase.com/prospect. RDLS just hit 1K followers on LinkedIn! Follow us there for video snippets, random theme songs, industry news, and landman job postings.TakeawaysRenewable Energy Site SelectionData Center Expansion Data Center DevelopmentEnergy Grid ChallengesChapters00:00 Introduction and Noodling Stories06:09 Jake Anderson's Background and Company Journey16:36 Site Selection for Renewable Energy24:32 Impact of Renewable Energy Pullback and New Use Cases31:42 Data Center Development
Transcribe →Episode 40: What AI is Doing for Owner Relations with Dagen Boyd
May 1200:52:33Tap to summarizeWell more than a month after it’s over, this seems like the perfect time to share our NCAA March Madness predictions. Note that Dagen Boyd, Co-founder of Firm.App, called it perfectly.Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson hear Dagen's story and his experiences with evolving, innovative technology, particularly how AI can revolutionize owner relations and customer service in the oil and gas industry and continue to impact other roles and workflows in operations.If you're fascinated by the capabilities and ongoing impacts of artificial intelligence, this is an episode you'll enjoy.Follow Dagen Boyd on LinkedIn and learn about Firm.App.Chapters00:00 March Madness06:04 The Development of Firm.App28:27 The Role of AI in Owner Relations42:05 The Evolution of Job Roles with AI53:38 The Future Impact of AI
Transcribe →Episode 39: The Colocation Loophole with Brendan O'Donnell
Apr 3000:38:17Tap to summarizeThis episode of The Real Deal Landman Show kicks off with Drew Hopkins talking about his experiences at MLB Spring Training. (He didn't make any of the teams.)It goes on to introduce Brendan O'Donnell of the Pittsburgh-based Houston Harbaugh law firm and feature a discussion on oil and gas law, data centers, and lease agreements. Brendan has the opportunity to provide legal representation for landowners in oil and gas matters. He is experienced with complicated title and royalty issues, and he has recently introduced an interesting concept about a loophole that might exist in co-locating data center development with oil and gas operations. Read "The Colocation Loophole" as part of "The Oil and Gas Addendum" blog on the Houston Harbaugh website at hh-law.com.Find and connect with Brendan on LinkedIn. As a reminder, this episode in no way constitutes as legal advice.TakeawaysOil and gas lawData centers and oil and gas operationsLease agreements and royalty clausesChapters00:00 Introduction to the Real Deal Landman Show05:36 Recording Across Three Time Zones10:48 Title Issues and Historical Oil and Gas Law in Pennsylvania19:13 The Co-Location Loophole and Data Centers Impact on Oil and Gas Operations26:43 Potential Litigation and Future Implications of Oil and Gas Law37:55 Negotiating Oil and Gas Leases and Preventing Legal Issues
Transcribe →Episode 38: His Honorable Secretarial Highness, Dan Whitmarsh of the Oklahoma CLO
Apr 2400:47:02Tap to summarizeThe Real Deal Landman Show has welcomed many interesting and influential people, but this one includes actual royalty.Dan Whitmarsh is the current appointed Secretary of the Commissioners of the Land Office of Oklahoma. Yet, somehow, he found time to give Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson an education on Oklahoma state land ownership, revenue generation for schools, and the office’s interaction with energy companies. Secretary Whitmarsh offers insights into the complexities of the agency’s operations, the challenges of navigating legislative dynamics, and lesser-known facts and practices of the CLO that most people may never have heard of. Listen in to hear about the potential for public-private partnerships, his unique and insightful career background, and his vision for the agency’s legacy.Chapters00:00 Unpredictable Oklahoma Weather05:06 The Role of the Commission of the Land Office12:09 The Land Office and State Land Ownership17:17 Location of Schools on State Land24:37 Agency Operations and Legislative Dynamics33:33 Land Use and Revenue Allocation41:31 Career Trajectory and Agency Legacy
Transcribe →Episode 37: The NAPE 2026 Compilation
Mar 3100:24:30Tap to summarizeDrew Hopkins, Jerris Johnson, and The Real Deal Landman Show returned to NAPE (North American Prospect Expo) with a stylish booth in the nether regions of the conference, but plenty of giveaways and goodies to bribe visitors into coming to see them. The conversations covered various topics in the energy industry, including personal experiences, stories, and memories, as well as the significance of the main event. Discussions emphasized the role of data modernization and AI, the impact of being a landman, insights on energy management and data centers, and challenges and opportunities in the energy industry. Our thanks to NAPE for providing a space to set up a temporary shop and to the many fans (dare we say “fans”?) who made the trek out to the edge to say hello.Featured GuestsKyle Reynolds, AAPL PresidentJeremy Bolder, Dakota AnalyticsTrace Sutherlin, OU Energy Management StudentWade Brawley, Land LegendKyla Lawson, StackDX
Transcribe →Episode 36: Dudley Mifflin and Buried Ham ft. Brent Broussard
Mar 1100:49:08Tap to summarizeOn The Real Deal Landman Show, Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson are honored to host guests with their own podcasts and successful ventures. For the legendary industry leaders who share valuable insights and others' experiences, we like to give them a chance to tell their own stories. The latest episode is with Brent Broussard of Dudley Land Company and The Land Department podcast. Gems to be heard:- Where did the Dudley name come from?- What was the story of a ham buried in someone's backyard?- Why is your reputation your most valuable asset, and how do you keep it strong?Connect with Brent on LinkedIn.Check out Dudley Land Company at https://www.dudley-land.com/Listen to The Land Department podcast everywhere you access The Real Deal Landman Show.Follow us on LinkedIn and take a look at our mediocre website at https://realdeallandman.com.
Transcribe →Episode 35: Shad Frazier - Build Teams that Can Change the World
Feb 1600:43:59Tap to summarizeIn this episode of the Real Deal Landman Show, Drew Hopkins and Jerris Johnson converse with Shad Frazier, a popular energy executive. Shad shares his journey from a non-oil family in Colorado to becoming a prominent figure in the oil and gas sector. He discusses the importance of community, mentorship, and building effective teams. The conversation explores the role of technology, particularly AI, in the industry, the future of mergers and acquisitions, and the entrepreneurial spirit that is emerging in the energy space. Shad emphasizes the importance of strong relationships and communication between landmen and engineers and offers valuable advice to young professionals entering the field.Takeaways:Building relationships is crucial for career success.Mentorship plays a significant role in professional development.AI will revolutionize the land space in the energy sector.Effective communication between landmen and engineers is essential.The energy industry is in a state of transition and opportunity.Small teams can achieve great efficiency in operations.Face-to-face interactions foster meaningful connections.Entrepreneurship is key to the future of the energy industry.Understanding technology is vital for seasoned professionals.The value of landmen in assembling valuable assets cannot be overstated.Keywordsenergy industry, oil and gas, mentorship, leadership, technology, AI, entrepreneurship, communication, relationships, mergers and acquisitions
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