What does it take for groups of people to come together to do extraordinary things? Kevin sits down with Karina Mangu-Ward to discuss the habits that help teams thrive in complex and uncertain environments. Karina explains why exceptional teamwork requires more than a strong strategy, talented individuals, or simply working harder, and introduces three essential areas of focus: organizing for impact, deciding in uncertainty, and designing for learning. They talk about how living team charters keep people aligned as conditions change, how "even overs" clarify difficult tradeoffs between two valuable priorities, and why working in public allows teams to collaborate earlier, learn faster, and avoid wasted effort. Karina also encourages leaders to replace perfectionism with experimentation, create shared language around decision-making, and begin where there is energy rather than waiting for a company-wide mandate.

About Karina Karina Mangu-Ward is the author of the forthcoming book Teams Who Meet the Moment: 9 Practices for Unlocking Performance and Growth in Uncertain Times . She is an organizational expert who has worked with PepsiCo, Planned Parenthood, Chanel and more and is a Partner at August. At August, she's had the privilege of working with some of the largest, most complex organizations in the world to shift their everyday ways of working. Before August, her adventures included conducting research on implicit bias, helping arts organizations behave as creatively behind the scenes as they do on stage, and running social innovation labs. If you buy Karina a coffee, she'd love to tell you how all of these experiences led her to exactly where she is now. Her motto is "get caught trying," which means she'd rather try and screw it up than not try at all. She lives with her partner and kids in Brooklyn, NY. Website: https://www.aug.co/book

Book Recommendations

Teams That Meet the Moment: 9 Practices for Unlocking Performance and Growth in Uncertain Times by Karina Mangu-Ward
Hidden Patterns: A Playbook for More Human Workplaces by Clay Parker Jones
Today Was Fun: A Book About Work (Seriously) by Bree Groff
The Art of Gathering: How We Meet and Why It Matters by Priya Parker
The Art of Fighting: The Transformative Power of Conflict by Priya Parker
Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir of a Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad

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TIMESTAMPS 0:00 Cold Open 0:30 Welcome to the Remarkable Leadership Podcast 1:24 Meet Karina Mangu-Ward 3:16 Why She Wrote Teams Who Meet the Moment 6:14 The Big Idea: 3 Lies We Love About Performance 9:47 The 3 Themes: Organizing, Deciding, Learning 12:52 Practice: Team Charters 16:14 Why 12 Weeks Is the Sweet Spot 18:43 Deciding in Uncertainty 20:48 Practice: "Even Over" 25:52 Practice: Work in Public 29:54 Where Organizations Should Start 32:04 What Karina's Reading 34:53 Where to Find Karina & the Book 35:29 Now What?

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