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Gary Lineker
Hello and welcome to the Rest is Football with Alan Shearer, Micah Riches and me, Gary Lineker. Before we get into today's episode, we have a brand new show starting on Wednesday called Premier League the Moments that Made Them. These episodes will be released every Wednesday from now until the end of the season and in each one we'll be focusing on one legend from the Premier League era. Within each episode we'll be picking five specific matches from their careers that were their defining moments to discuss. We'll look at why each one was so significant for them and no doubt tell a few of our own stories about the times we've spent with them. The great news is that if you're watching the show on Spotify or YouTube, you'll also be able to see all of these iconic moments as we're talking talking through them. If you're listening, that's no problem. You'll still get the episode just as you usually do. We'll be starting on Wednesday with the great Thierry Henri and that's when we went up to York to do it. When we all went from London.
Alan Shearer
Yorkshire.
Guest Analyst
Yorkshire. Yes, Fantastic.
Micah Richards
Not a bad player to start with, is it? Thierry Henry?
Guest Analyst
I could guess who's going to be last.
Gary Lineker
How was your day, Mikey? You were at the City game?
Guest Analyst
Yes, I was at the City and I must say, Alan, your analysis on Match of the Day. I was tucked up, I stayed in a hotel in Manchester. I thought, go on, Ali, what you got for us? Your movements, your explanations were fantastic inspiration for today's show.
Gary Lineker
Love it, love it.
Guest Analyst
But yes, I was at the Etihad today. Man City versus Chelsea. Quite intriguing game actually. I really enjoyed it. Obviously the headlines for them, no Mareska and then a new manager, how was he gonna fare? But in terms of the game, Man City dominated first half. Chelsea coming to second half. Man City will be ruined. Their missed opportunities, I mean, Haaland, Foden, Shirky, all them on the pitch, you're expecting a little bit more. But the fight from Chelsea to come back into it, get the point. Thoroughly deserved it in the end.
Micah Richards
I thought the same, actually. I thought the way he changed it at halftime went into more of a back three. I thought that suited Chelsea and they came into it a lot more and I thought they were well worthy of their point. I thought they were a better team second half. I thought Man City were the better team first off. But I thought a point was a. Was a fair result in the end, don't you?
Gary Lineker
I thought so as well, yeah. Watching the game there, I thought that, yeah, I'd pretty accurate. I thought City were fairly dominant in the first half. I expected them to kick on from there and they didn't create too much. Chelsea came back in it really well, made a couple. So he made some good changes, Callum McFarlane and got a point that they probably deserved at the end. It would be a bit of a sickness for City particularly having lost points at Sunderland as well. So they've, you know, with Arsenal winning as well. So, you know, that's a significant gap now. Six points. Particularly when you look at a side like Arsenal, you can't, you know, they're so solid, aren't they? I know they conceded a couple in the game yesterday, but overall they're look fairly solid. They've found a winning formula and as we, as we said going into the new year, you know what a position to be in.
Alan Shearer
You look at pivotal moments within the season. I don't think today, what was it? I think there's enough time for Man City to get back in the race. I said on the last podcast it's going to be up and down, up and down. Yes, I agree with, with the Arsenal result to go to Bournemouth is. Is a tough place. To go. But the way they managed to get over the line was good. But Man City are creating chances, just not taking them. You know, I think Harlem not scoring in three. Sort of huffed and puffed against Sunderland, didn't they? I think the XG was just under three, three goals in that game. And then today, you know, Harland hits a post. Foden normally sticks one of those away and allow Chelsea to get back in it tactically. Totally agree with you guys there. In the way that Esteban in that first half, it was almost playing like a wing back, wasn't he? And then to bring on midfield Santo and then bring on Hatto at left back as well, shored him up a little bit, move Cole Palmer more into central positions where it could affect the game more. But I think the big turning point in the game was Liam Delap. I thought his runs did well. Didn't mind especially seeing it high up at the stadium. It just pushed Man City a little bit back and then Man City didn't really know what to do with that and then allowed Cole Palmer to play like, like I mentioned. And then they got a little bit of confidence. But McFarland, it was one of those where he's obviously been at Man City. For those who don't know, he's doing the Chelsea 21s and at half time, my sort of thoughts would he would, you know, just see it out and play for a counter attack. But he wanted to win the game and he could have got embarrassed, you know, at the Etihad if Harlem would have scored a golf. But it was the conviction he showed to say, no, we're gonna have a go here. And I think that says a lot about him as a manager and, and Chelsea as a squad that they're gonna have a right go no matter who the manager is, which it looks like Liam received.
Micah Richards
Get an interview tomorrow, I think, isn't.
Gary Lineker
He, I wonder if it was him that did it or did the owners come down at Halim and make the changes.
Alan Shearer
But by all accounts he, he, he, he's got the job. And I, I, I spoke to some Chelsea representation earlier on before I actually went on air and they said they should be announcing the next 24, 48 hours on, on a manager. Obviously they know he's front runner in that. But the reason why the, the looking at someone like Liam Rosinha is because about him in the Chelsea sort of group say with Strasbourg been there for two years, they've seen him day in, day out. They, they mentioned the style of football attacking Style of football is why he's front runner, essentially.
Micah Richards
It's a big ask for him, by the way. I think. I know he's got huge potential and I know he's highly thought of. It's a big, big job to come into that is. And fill what Chelsea want and what Chelsea demand. I hope he does well if, if. Or when he gets it. But it's a big, big ask for him and it's a big. I don't think. I don't think he can ever turn it down. I don't. He'll have a choice to turn it down. He'll just. He'll have to. Well, he doesn't have to accept it, and I totally understand that. But managing is hard enough. Managing Chelsea for an experienced manager is hard, let alone for. For a guy that's been at Strasbourg, Hull and Derby. Is it?
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
Interim at Derby. But when you say, what. What do you think the expectations are going to be at Chelsea?
Micah Richards
Win trophies and get into the Champions League.
Guest Analyst
Okay, Champions League. But what trophies are you talking about?
Micah Richards
Maresca had two. They had the Conference League and the World Club Championship. And. And he's got them almost in the top four there or thereabouts. And I mean, yeah, that. That's what he has to do. No, and he has to do whatever they say he wants him to do and play in a specific way and handle the players that they give him, not who he wants.
Gary Lineker
That's the thing, isn't it? Here we don't. I mean, it does seem like there's a kind of big degree of interference coming from people outside the dressing room, you know, the hierarchy, whoever it is, judging by the. What happened with Mareska, judging by his statements, and it's hard to envisage that being any different under anyone else. Having said that, he has worked for the group at Strasbourg, so whether they're as on your case there as they are at Chelsea, I don't know. But it's a difficult job for anyone. But it is. Obviously it's a huge job and it's a challenge that I'm sure. Sure he'll. He'll. He'll be desperately keen to take on and wish him well. But he will know also that it's. It's a very, very tough place to. To be a coach. Although you have at least got an abundance of talent to work with.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, of course. But I think the feeling from the Chelsea side of things just on Matt Gaz, is that the fact that the relationship broke down between Maresa and the club when he started speaking to other clubs, it's been reported that he, he, he spoke to Man City and he spoke to Juventus and he wanted basically a new deal. And Chelsea spokesperson let, let's say, said they backed him when he didn't have that much experience and he was doing a good job and getting in the Champions League was in the remit. But then, you know, the form in the last eight, eight or so games has not been at the level that they wanted. But I, I feel as though they feel that all the, the blame has been putting on Chelsea and that's why I asked Alan the question, what is the goal for Chelsea? You know, if they to finish trophies.
Micah Richards
And top four, it has to be. No.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, but I mean, really think it's.
Micah Richards
Acceptable to finish outside the Champions League and not win a trophy? If you're Chelsea manager, you think you'll keep the job?
Guest Analyst
Well, that's why I asked the question, because Maresca's done that, so it's hard to know. And you make a good point again, guys, about the want a coach. You know, they're bringing in the players. The way Chelsea are doing things is different to any other club. But ultimately the fans, from a fan's point of view, they expect to be challenging for the League and win trophies. But I don't believe with the squad that Chelsea have and can challenge for the League. And that's why I put the question to you. I think they are going to be a Champions League team where there could be anyone like the club, World cup or Winner, Winner, Conference, League or whatever, and challenge for. I think realistically they're gonna be challenged for top four. That's what it is.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, I would, I wouldn't disagree with any of that. It's a big challenge and we'll see what happens. As for City, obviously it's a blow for them, those two games with dropping points. Good few days for Arsenal. So you think there'll be more swings and twists and turns, Micah. And I suppose that's fairly inevitable, but I don't know. I like the look of Arsenal at the moment. I thought they played really well, having gone behind as well in the way they did. Yeah.
Micah Richards
And then to recover so soon after that, I thought was a big thing.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, they've got some real leaders in that side. That's why, like, you know, people like obviously Gabriel at the back and probably Saliba as well. I mean, Declan Rice, I mean, he just goes from strength to strength, doesn't he?
Micah Richards
Another outstanding performance. I said it on Match of the Day last night, I think he's. He's all. He's almost the. Well, he is. He's a manager's dream. He's regularly 7, 8 out of 10. He very rarely misses games. And what he does for the team is. Is really. It is phenomenal. It's fantastic to see. He's amazing player.
Guest Analyst
You know what, you have to give a little bit of credit to Odegaard as well.
Micah Richards
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
Keeping Ezzy on the bench since he's coming to the team, he's played really well. But going back to Gaz's point on Gabrielle, when he made that blunder and mistake, obviously I had him in my fantasy football. I said on the next corner, he's definitely gonna score. And I mentioned him on the last part about being good in. In both boxes. He's just a colossal of a man. And it's not just that, it's the mindset because you know how many times we play with teams, once you make a mistake, you sort of play within yourself. He was like, okay, I'll own that mistake. I'll go get a goal. Right place, right time. And in terms of Arsenal, they will keep fighting on.
Micah Richards
It's amazing, isn't it? We said they definitely need a striker and they pay a fortune for a striker and he's hardly scored any goals.
Guest Analyst
Yes. However, though Al, he does make a difference in terms of stretching the opposition.
Micah Richards
He does. Yeah.
Gary Lineker
Yeah. He does like to get behind, which gives them more space in midfield for the likes of Rice and Odegaard and Marino as well when he plays. And the thing about them at the moment as well is that he can afford to rest. Like, you know, he gives. It gives Sakura a little break, a little rest, so nurtures him a little bit. And he's got, you know, Noddy Madwicky to come in, so, you know, they've got real quality. You talk about as he's on the bench now, and he was, he was flying at one point not long ago, so I think that squad is so strong, they even coped, didn't they, without Gabrielle and Saliba for. Yeah, they. They coped without that. Not many teams could cope with losing their, their two central defenders, but. But they did because they got, you know, good, good coverage in that position.
Micah Richards
Now I do think there'll be twists and turns. I agree, Micah. Definitely there'll be twists and turns, but it's been a great weekend for Arsenal.
Guest Analyst
Yeah, totally agree.
Gary Lineker
Well, let's hope so because it makes we. We want a real title race. It would be great. And obviously it's because they've not won a title for so long and even a trophy for quite a few years now that, that the pressure will mount. But I don't know when you, when you play and you get out there and you perform and I think that. I think they're looking really good at the moment and I still look at City and while I can see a considerable improvement on last season and a big plus today, I thought was Rodri was back and he looked, you know, he was really, really good, particularly in the first half. I thought he was controlling the game again. He gives him a little bit more of that control. So I think City are moving in the right direction, but they're still not the City of two, three, four, five years ago. Not yet. Not haven't got the amount of the number of players that scored goals like before, whereas I think they're still kind of heavily reliant on, on Harland. And then when he doesn't score in games that, that's two draws on the bounce when he's not scored. So might be reading a bit too much into that. But I still. They're definitely making progress though.
Guest Analyst
No, I think you, you raise a good point. I think it more to do with style of play as well. And I said this on, on Sky. Normally you see Man City with wingers high, high and wide. Now they're playing more in a number 10, 2 tens with Foden and Shirky. They're getting the whiff from the, the fullbacks. At times it's not having the same effect. But if you sign someone like Semenya and you've got Doku on the other side as well, then you can do both. You can chop and change a system and I think that's all Man City need to go on that run. They're still going to be vulnerable on the counter attack, you know, and every team will be because the way Man City play in terms of the always nice and high and we've got to applaud them for wanting to be high and playing football in opposition half, that's, that's a good thing. But you are going to be liable like we've seen today, when Gusto goes round. Nico O'Reilly the and this is the thing that people don't understand when, when you're defending and it's so easy to defend in a low block because it's all about communication. You've got people in front of you and it's all about positioning and no space behind you. When you play like Manchester City and you go really high and you've got two fullbacks who basically are midfielders. Matthias Nunoz is a midfielder. Nico Riley, you know, is a midfielder who could play excellently well at left back. You're then going to be exposed on the counter attack, which by their normal, I would say characteristic, that's not what they are great on. Because Man City dominate the ball and they're getting really good positions and they can get in half spaces and create something. That's why Man City being so good. But then on the. On the counterattack, that's when they become vulnerable, you know, and that's why someone like Kyle Walker was so key. He could start at right back, he could start at three at the back. Anytime that ball went over the midfield, the broke midfield line, Kyle Walker was there. And I think that's potentially what Man City are missing at the back.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, I think that makes perfect sense elsewhere. Leeds, Manchester United. It was one all, obviously. But I think possibly the interesting thing to talk about here is the post game comments from Reuben Amarin. I've got the quotes here. He does tend to say what he thinks sometimes in press conferences. And well, post game he came out with this. I came here to be the manager of Manchester United, not to be the coach. I know my name is not Antonio Conte, Thomas Tuchel or Jose Mourinho, but I'm the manager of Manchester United. It's going to be like this for 18 months or until the board decide to change. I'm not going to quit. I'll do my job until another guy is coming here to replace me. It was an odd one, wasn't it? I think it was a little bit like the Mareska comments two or three weeks ago. It seems to me like he's making a pitch here. I'm not managing, I'm only being coaching. I'm not really getting much say into new players. I'm not really getting much support. That's how I read it. But I don't. I might be wrong.
Micah Richards
I don't think he's got enough in the bank to be moaning. It's not as if he's coming to the Premier League into Manchester United and being amazing.
Gary Lineker
That is true.
Micah Richards
Look at his results and the record since he's been at Manchester United. It's been nowhere near good enough. I could get Maresca. I get that because of what he's done and what he's achieved, but I think he's. He's fighting a losing battle. There's only going to be one winner and it wouldn't surprise him if he's not there much longer at all because he just hasn't got enough in the bank to be coming out and taking the board on like that.
Guest Analyst
The problem with Amorin is he wasn't adaptable so tactically when everyone was saying he should change and he wanted to stay in in the same way we knew, we said it from the start. We understand why he's doing what he's doing because he's used to that system. However, is he gonna have enough time to get the players in to play that system and the players that he had are better in a different system as he changed the system a couple of games ago now. Totally agree with you guys. It's come to January and he's thinking, I've got players in afcon, I've got injuries, someone like Bruno Fernandes, who's their best player, I need help. He's got frustrated and the board are probably not backed him. So he's. He's throw his toys out the pram. That's what it is. But like Alan says, if you want X amount of money in January, then we've got to see evidence of when you spend the money, this is what you're going to do with it. And at the moment it's not worked out. Cunha's, he brought in Cunha. Cunha is a good player and Buermo's one of the better players. It's not really happened for Sesko at the moment, but he needs additions in midfield. When you've got Agarte and Casemiro, he's thinking, well, I need more than that. He doesn't obviously trust Mainoo as we've seen the, the weeks unfold recently. So now he's basically threw his toys out the pan.
Micah Richards
I'm only guessing here and I haven't got a clue, but is there an element that makes me think anyway that he's been told he has to be adaptable and change that system? He changed it against Newcastle and they got the result and he's gone back to his three in the Wolves game and didn't get the result. And he's probably thought, I'm going to do it my way. I'm not being told how to play or what to do. Which may be one of the reasons why he said, I am the manager and I will do what I want to do. I am not the coach, I'm the manager. And that's the what the agreement was. Yet his title is head coach isn't.
Gary Lineker
It the head coach?
Micah Richards
Yeah. Yeah, maybe I'm reading into things because up until the Newcastle game, he was adamant in every single interview he is not changing system. And then he went. He went off piste and changed the system, but then the next game went straight back to his own. And he's probably thought, well, I'm not getting any players in January, so what's the point? And I think that's maybe what his rant is today.
Guest Analyst
He's allowed to be frustrated though, isn't he? Because of. He might got told, you're gonna get a couple windows, you're gonna get these players and it's not happened. The manager should be able to manage the players and what goes on. That's what a manager is supposed to do. I know the new modern game, it's all about coaches. We've talked about Liam Rossinia coming in as potentially a coach. It's going to be the board, probably who are going to make the signings and you've just got to coach these players. But you've been a manager, Al like you have to make the decisions because you're the one who's getting abused every week when it doesn't go go right. And that's the way I feel for Amarin there, because he should be allowed to make decisions and this is not what he signed up for, essentially.
Micah Richards
Do you mean the decisions as in which way to play or which players are going to be brought into the club?
Guest Analyst
Well, a bit about both. You know, if. If you're going to back a manager and he's going to say, okay, I play a certain type of way, it's going to take a couple of windows to do what I need to do. And then he's gone to the board and we're speculating here, we don't. We don't know. This is flat. But say he's gone to the board and said we need xyz. And they was like, well, well, no, then how is he supposed to get out what he wants? And we know he's not the most adaptable manager. So then where do they go from here?
Gary Lineker
Again, I reiterate, we don't know. We are guessing a little bit here, but judging by his words and the manager coach thing, that suggests to me not necessarily tactical on the pitch because that's a coach's job, but I wonder whether it is about players that he wants in and then wanting different players than he actually wants in. That's what I read into it because managing means an overall point of view. You kind of managing not just the coaching style of the team, but also managing the overall picture in terms of transfers etc and the club. And as you quite rightly say, that gone out of fashion to a degree. Managers. There are not too many overall managers. But you're not telling me that someone like Pep Guardiola doesn't have a say on. On the players that come in.
Guest Analyst
Exactly.
Micah Richards
Yeah. But he's got a great relationship with the people that are there and worked with him for such a long time. Pep. And he is unique because he is the best.
Gary Lineker
No, absolutely. And, and, and you know, someone like Klopp, when he was there before at Liverpool, you would, you would know that even though they've got a good recruitment team, probably. But I'm sure his opinion is sought. I wonder whether Amrams has been sought or not. Again, we're guessing. But why utter those words unless it was a dig at the fact that he's not getting a say in matters, not necessarily with the players that he's got at the moment.
Micah Richards
I'll go back to my first point. He hasn't got enough in the bank to be coming out and making and saying these type of things. Have you seen enough to suggest that he's going to be a huge success at Manchester United? And then for him to come out and see what he has done? I am this, I am that and I'm not a coach. And he also said the sporting director and the chief scout, whoever need to do their jobs and I'll do my job as a manager. I heard him say that as well.
Gary Lineker
You heard him say. I didn't hear that. That pretty much reiterates what we've just said.
Guest Analyst
And that's a bit what I struggle with. If you're a young manager, which is a young manager, and you're being told when you come into a club, this is how it's going to be. We're going to choose the players and basically you're going to coach them. If he's playing a specific system, he should have a say on which players he wants. Otherwise it's not fair to him because he's the one being judged. It makes no sense. And he would only come out and say that if he's been told one thing and another thing has happened. It's as simple as that.
Micah Richards
If you go back to when they. They want. They wanted him that badly and they were obviously prepared to get him out of his contract early because he wanted a weight. But they had, they said, no, you're coming in now. So they Knew the system he was going to play. They knew who he was and what he was. Yet I don't know. I don't see it lasting much longer. I really don't. When a manager or a coach comes out and says that against either the sporting director or the CEO or whoever it may be, there's only one winner, you know that.
Gary Lineker
We've seen two or three examples quite recently, haven't we, with Nuno Espirito Santo at Nottingham Forest. And we saw the same with Maresca, that both happened to them. So we'll follow that as it goes. Decent game at Craig and Cottage. I was watching most of that. Caught the last bit. What a. What a goal.
Micah Richards
Unbelievable.
Gary Lineker
I mean, for Liverpool to look like they'd pinched it with Gakpo's goal right at the death and then to go down the other end and score that goal from Harrison Reed. I mean, I think it was his second touch after he came on. I mean, it was a hell of a touch.
Micah Richards
Wow, what a strike. I mean he'll never ever. Not that he has done before, but he'll never ever hit another one like that. And he's like, it was an unbelievable goal, wasn't it?
Guest Analyst
What was that? You say he's first in three years. It's ridiculous.
Gary Lineker
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
How's he put it there? What a wonder. Strike. That was unbelievable.
Gary Lineker
You can see a lot of his teammates, I would imagine, on the pitch about to give him a bollocking for shooting from that far out at that stage of the game. And it flew in the top corner. I mean, a bit of a blow to Liverpool. Again, he was interesting as well. Arnie Slot heard him interviewed after the game and he was. He was saying the problem with us at the moment is we're relying on a bit of luck and. Or bad luck and it can go either way. And we're not getting ourselves in a position where we. Where we don't need to rely on a bit of luck. So I think what he's saying there is we're not basically playing well enough to guarantee victories like they were last season.
Micah Richards
That is true. That is. That's the. The top and bottom of it. Yeah. They're just not. They're nowhere near as good as they were last year. They're being punished. And I guess you are taught in football you are talking fine margins. Fine margins I guess also help them get the vertical. Because looking at that, I thought that was offside.
Gary Lineker
That was bizarre, wasn't it? That made. That really did for all the world. I mean, the Line on the pitch was exactly that. Maybe the line was a bit squiff, I don't know. But because, you know, they've got this obviously automated thing, which we're trying to trust.
Guest Analyst
Semi automated, let's say.
Gary Lineker
Does that give them the way out?
Guest Analyst
It gives them the way out, that, doesn't it?
Micah Richards
There's a 5 centimeter thing, isn't there, though, that they brought in a few years ago that to. To try and stop the offside being offside by a toenail.
Gary Lineker
Yeah. The one thing I'll say is semis are never quite good enough.
Micah Richards
You should be happy with this semi at your age. Yeah. Oh.
Guest Analyst
At least we see goals, though, rather than being chopped off. We don't want to see goals taken away from that, you know, as long as I do that every single week.
Gary Lineker
Yeah. Harry Wilson's another goal. He's in great form. Lovely. It really is a good finish.
Micah Richards
Superb finish.
Gary Lineker
I think Liverpool obviously know Ekatike. He wasn't in the squad.
Guest Analyst
They say it was a hamstring. I read. I read somewhere that he's been playing a lot of football. They just tweaked his hamstring.
Gary Lineker
Hamstring, apparently. Yeah. A little tweak. I wish you told me because I brought him in, honestly. Having said that, I got Harry Wilson off the bench, so I was not too bad on that point. But one thing I did do, Micah, go on. I took out Thiago. Six games on the bounce. Right. Six games on the bounce. Nothing.
Micah Richards
Nothing.
Gary Lineker
No assists, no goals, anything. And I just thought I said to Harry, let's get him out, get someone else in and school's a bloody hat trick. And well done, him. Well done. I'm thrilled for you.
Micah Richards
Great finishes as well. They were, weren't they? As goals? Very cle. Yeah.
Gary Lineker
Which made me feel a lot better, obviously, those finishes.
Micah Richards
What a job he's doing, by the way, at Brentford. Yeah. Isn't he unbelievable again?
Gary Lineker
Yeah.
Guest Analyst
Did you have Brentford to go down?
Micah Richards
No, no, I didn't have them to go down.
Guest Analyst
Okay.
Gary Lineker
Just.
Guest Analyst
Just double checking.
Gary Lineker
We had them to struggle, though. I think we all said they might find life difficult, you know, if you consider that they've lost Rissa, they lost Mbumo, they lost their manager, they lost Norgaard. I mean. I mean, he's done really well.
Micah Richards
Brilliant job.
Gary Lineker
I mean, he.
Micah Richards
Really fantastic. Yeah. Really good.
Gary Lineker
Bit chirpy today. Alan, you're back. You're a bit miserable a couple of weeks ago. And this football, isn't it? Drives you mad as a fan, doesn't it ups and downs. The Jordy's about.
Micah Richards
I was at St. James's park to watch Newcastle beat Palace. It wasn't easy. They had to work really hard for it. But they were the better team and did deserve the three points. Joel Linton I thought played a lot better. Bruno Gameres was very good. Malik Chow was excellent again. But the best player on the park by an absolute mile was young Lewis Miley in the right back position. Honestly guys. He was absolutely fantastic. He never put a foot wrong. He's brilliant.
Gary Lineker
He's a real talent.
Micah Richards
I think he attempted 59 passes. Of which every single one of them was successful.
Alan Shearer
Wow.
Gary Lineker
That's. That's almost 100%.
Micah Richards
Yeah. So he was bloody brilliant. And Newcastle. A win and a clean sheet. And Leeds at home on Wednesday.
Guest Analyst
March it all together. I can't wait for that game. I love you Jordy's. You know that. But when Leeds are in town. I can't wait. Calvin Lewis could have you trembling in your boot salad.
Micah Richards
Let's see. We'll see. Be a good battle by the way. Because Newcastle looked a bit more solid against Malik Chow. Who has been a really good buy for Newcastle. He's had a really good season. Even when Newcastle weren't playing well. He was one of the better players. So that'll be a good battle. Those two.
Guest Analyst
So. Newcastle back. Sorry. Before we move on guys.
Micah Richards
Not back to the. Not back to the dizzy heights as yet. But two nil clean sheets. Something to build on.
Guest Analyst
So full of nonsense this guy.
Micah Richards
Something to build on.
Guest Analyst
He basically said Dizzy heights. Newcastle are back. We're back to winning ways. We're keeping clean sheets. I asked him on the pod and he's like. Oh. And three weeks ago. They don't run enough. There's no conviction. Volta Mina can't play. We need Visser. There's no space. Ridiculous. He's so emotional. Reactionary is a word I will use for you. Mr. Alan Shearer.
Gary Lineker
I quite like it though. You know he's on the 16th now.
Micah Richards
And the ups and downs of football.
Gary Lineker
And you still got that in enthusiasm and that. It's funny. It never. I think it gets worse. As a football fan. You would think we're grown adults. You would think that it wouldn't affect you as much as it does. But bloody hell. When your team play badly and you get really can ruin a weekend. And when your team plays well it's like wonderful. And that's that. That's the. What's one of the joys of the game? The ups and downs.
Micah Richards
If Newcastle beat Leeds and it's an if that they can go sixth, I.
Guest Analyst
Think it can go fifth.
Gary Lineker
Fifth. Dizzy heights. Indeed.
Guest Analyst
Newcastle are on 29 points. Chelsea are on 31 points. Do you do the maths, are you.
Alan Shearer
You see like you're struggling.
Guest Analyst
29 and 2 is 31. So if you was to win.
Micah Richards
I didn't know who was on what point. So I knew it was fifth or sixth. We could go. If we win.
Guest Analyst
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
That's got to be the target, isn't it? Champions League again. Yeah.
Micah Richards
I mean that's. Isn't. Isn't it such a strange league this year though? I mean we've spoken about Man United. Man United are in what, sixth?
Guest Analyst
Yes.
Micah Richards
Haven't been great. Liverpool being poor by their own standards. Chelsea up and down and it's like. I mean, look at Brentford in seventh or something like that. Sunderland in eighth. Are they. It's like it's been such a crazy league up to now this season.
Guest Analyst
You are actually right though. Well, you can go six because of goal difference. You go join with Chelsea. So he was right. I apologize. Apologies, Apollo. Unless you win 7 nil or whatever it is.
Gary Lineker
All right. Well, can you imagine what it would be like if they win seven? I won't.
Micah Richards
Come on.
Guest Analyst
I wouldn't. Come on.
Gary Lineker
Okay, let's take a break there. Michael will let you go because you've had a long day and you need to sort yourself out. Alan and myself will talk about.
Micah Richards
Don't you worry, Micah, we'll cover you. Back again. Don't worry. You go and get yourself to bed. You've had a long time, Dick.
Guest Analyst
Cheers, guys.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, you're welcome. We'll be back shortly. Welcome back to the rest is football. We've let Micah go. He's had a long day working. So it's just Alan Shearer at me. Gary Linen now probably turn her attention a little bit towards the bottom of the table. Alan, you were doing well. We mentioned it before. You're doing Match of the Day yesterday.
Micah Richards
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
And whoa, John. Producer John.
Micah Richards
You had that winning feeling. Oh, goodness me. It's been a long time coming, John.
Gary Lineker
If the season started this year, would they be top One goal difference? I'm not sure.
Micah Richards
Brilliant. No one's got a better record in 2026 than wolves.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, exactly. And you did that game.
Micah Richards
Wolves were brilliant right from the off. Really. They were up for it. And Matthias mane, the young 18 year old who got his very first goal and will never ever forget that day. I said a match. The day that there's no coincidence that the three games he started, Liverpool Man United and that against West Ham, Wolves have looked a little bit better, Got a bit of confidence, a little bit of belief. And they absolutely battered West Ham yesterday. I mean, we'll talk about West Ham, I'm sure, but you have to give all the credit to Wolves because they've been under huge pressure and everyone's been going on about the worst team ever to be in a Premier League or they're going to have the worst number of points or whatever. So to have that following year round and then go out and put in a performance like that at Old Trafford. They did. They deserve something at Old Trafford and they definitely deserve the points against West Ham.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, totally agree with that. I think, I mean, you mentioned Mane there. It just shows you must be, you know, how talented he is that Rob Edwards would put him into a side which has been struggling so badly this season. So it just, he must, you know, really, really, really have a lot of confidence.
Micah Richards
Did you see his goal?
Gary Lineker
Yes.
Micah Richards
The way he, the way he touched it, like sort of controlled it and turned with his left foot and then sort of moved inside and hit it with his, with his right foot. I mean, we'll talk about the defender in a minute or the lack of it, but the, that, that, that in itself I thought was, was brilliant. Let alone the rest of his, the rest of his performance to win the penalty track him back. Yeah, he, he did everything right yesterday. He was the, was without doubt the standout player. And it looks as if he's got a really good future ahead of him since Ron Edwards.
Gary Lineker
I mean, obviously that was his first victory, but you can see that they've been, I think more difficult to beat in a lot of games have been in games particularly late. You can see a bit of progress there. I mean, I just, I suspect it might be too little too late. Yeah, I mean, be miraculous if they got out from. From where they are now. But you know, he's coming. He looks like he's steadied the ship a little bit. I mean, I know I wouldn't premature this with six points. Yeah, but, but there's, you know, maybe a little turn, bit of confidence, spark of confidence gone. A little bit of a, of a undefeated run possibly.
Micah Richards
Well, the last three games I think that have been, have been the ones that say, okay, maybe they're now on the, on the right path. I do think it'll be too little too late and they will have to suffer this season and maybe and go down and then Maybe come back. But yeah, I think the Liverpool game and the Man United game in particular set them up nicely for that game against, against West Ham. And they were miles the better team. If you were. You didn't know anything about football and that was the first match you'd seen. You just said it was role reversed the way the mess that Wolves are in. You said it was West Ham that were. With a team that were the bottom of the league and had no belief and had no confidence because they were woeful.
Gary Lineker
Let's talk about West Ham. I mean, I mean I was thinking actually earlier today, I mean, looking at a lot of teams with this, you know, managerial merry go round that, that we get and different managers end up at different clubs, I don't think it hardly ever makes any difference. I think it generally comes down to the place you've got. I think most coaches pretty much know what. Not know what they're doing. Obviously if you get someone who's is utterly brilliant, like a Pep Guardia. But even, you know, these people need a lot of time and stuff. But if you go into a club without, you know, special talent, it's, it's difficult. You look at West Ham, you think their recruitment and ultimately it'll be, you know, well, they've got rid of a couple of coaches now. There might be, there might be another.
Micah Richards
One who knows, you know, the best one and Moyes.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, exactly. And he was there for a while on two occasions. But I mean, you just think to yourself, is there any real difference when you change the coach? It doesn't seem to. Sometimes you get a little bounce, don't you, for a game or two. But I think even statistics say that that's actually a little bit of a myth. But I just. Yeah, it's. And then it's, you know, you see managers manage like two or three different clubs and then they're there for a bit and then they're gone again. And, and ultimately it's, it's. Is it a deflection by the owners away from themselves?
Micah Richards
Well, let's, let' look at that because I think that's a huge part of it. Look, the players and the, and the coach have to take responsibility whilst they're on the pitch. And there's no excuse for what happened against Wolves yesterday, right, because there was a lack of effort, there was lack of fight, there's a lack of energy. Everything was missing what you need in a football match. They're the simple things, the easy things, the effort, the non negotiables, right? You have to go out and whatever happens, you give your all and if that doesn't happen, you get hammered. And that's. That happened yesterday. So they have to accept responsibility for that. But if you look at the bigger picture and, and I've said this before, and the number of coaches they've had in there who can't get it right tells you it's not just what's happening on the pitch is what's the problem is. Because look at the Rice money, look at the Kudos money. Look at the money that they've spent and the recruitment of some of those players yesterday. I mean, I don't know, I go through that, I go through that team and I know there's one or two youngsters in their pots and skulls, but other than Bowen, I look around and I think, pack a tars up and down. I know he wasn't playing, but they got one or two injuries. But the recruitment for me has been. Is a massive problem because the money that's been spent there, that hasn't been an issue. Is that spending the money, it's actually what you've. What they've spent it on. They're just. They're just not a good football team. And so much, so much relies on. On Tuesday's game against Forest at West Ham, because if, if Forest beat them there, then they really are doomed, I think.
Gary Lineker
Well, that is a big game. Takes us on to perhaps some Forest as well, while we're talking about that area of the table. Because Forest have been struggling as well, haven't they? Sean Deutsch came in. They had a. A decent performance a couple of games ago, but I saw them at Fulham. I went to that game. They weren't very good. I saw them at Everton, I went to that game. And they really weren't very good in that game either. I mean, Villa are obviously a good side and it's a tough place to go and play. But at the moment, you know, they're what, four points above West Ham outside of the relegation zone. But, you know, they'll be worried. I mean, the difference between this season and last season.
Micah Richards
Incredible. It's unbelievable. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Chris Wood was. Was flying last season. They had a Langer. They were hitting teams on the break, of course, with his, with his pace. I don't know. I just. I look at. I look at Forest and I think sometimes I think, well, they are. I think they're better than, than what we're seeing. I think they've lost the last four and that's Why? I do think they may have enough to stay up and avoid relegation. Compared to West Ham.
Gary Lineker
I think they've got better players overall and I think ultimately it comes down to that. Yeah, whatever. Whatever people think.
Micah Richards
Yeah, I think when you look at Anderson, Gibbs, White and one or two others in that, in that Forest team, my guess would be is that they'll get out of trouble and maybe West Ham might not. But so much rides on that game on, on Tuesday night.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, it really does. It's a massive fix, isn't it? It really is. Villa are good at home.
Micah Richards
Filler are good anyway, wherever it. They've got some really, really talented players as we said. And I think, I mean even, even their defeat at Arsenal, guys when their first half, I thought they were decent and they could have played really well. Yeah, maybe one or two. But it was, it was the second half performance from Arsenal that sort of blew them away. But for them to, to respond like the, like they did and with Kamara and Telemans in that midfield, Noah Nana, but McGinn, Rodgers, Watkins. Yeah, there's some really good players in there and they're giving everyone a run for the money.
Gary Lineker
Aston Villa and they've got that depth now, haven't they, that in. In the squad really, you know, that the perhaps wouldn't have had a couple of years ago. I mean they need it because obviously they're playing European football as well. They're going on, on a few fronts. But I mean I, I mean the home form now, that's. What's that let's. They actually have the best win percentage in Europe's top five leagues with 82.1% which is ahead of City, Atletico Madrid, Bayern and Barca.
Micah Richards
Brilliant.
Gary Lineker
And the teams behind them, I mean that, that, that is quite something.
Micah Richards
Very, very impressive. Yeah, it's doing a great job. Everything just the way they set open their balance and, and the team, you can, you can see everyone's really comfortable in what they're doing and they're playing some really good football. I mean Tielemans is a really talented player if you can get him on the ball as much as they did. I thought the balance yesterday looked really good and they were, they were impressive again. Even when, even when Forrest got that goal back, there was no real panic. They just went about their business and then once again got that second goal. God knows what the keeper was doing with Forest, but once he got that second goal to make it three, then there was no way back for Forest.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, John Victor had a rush of blood to the head. Interesting to talk about Telemans there because obviously he was at Leicester. I remember having a conversation with Brendan Rogers and he said to me, he said, he's like my coach on the field, right? He said he's got such an intelligence and he's, you know, he's.
Micah Richards
He's.
Gary Lineker
It's a leader and can dictate the play. So which you can see that. I mean, he's. Some of his passing is. I mean, the ball from again for the goal was great. I mean, I know Victor told himself, but it was still pretty tasty. And nevertheless, that was actually that stat Gabby was for the whole year of 2025.
Micah Richards
Brillian.
Gary Lineker
I mean, incredible. Really superb.
Micah Richards
Really is. Really is impressive. Yeah. Really good. Excellent.
Gary Lineker
Still in contention. Yeah, no doubt. If, you know, if Arsenal should slip up at some point, even if you.
Micah Richards
Look at City's result, as we spoke about earlier, then, yeah, that'll give them confidence that they'll think, hey, why not?
Gary Lineker
And, you know you're going to drop points. Obviously they lost at Arsenal, which was, you know, it's a big game, but prior to that they won at Chelsea and then they're back. So I think if you'd have gone like, like Chelsea White, you know, Chelsea way, Arsenal away and then Forest and you get six points, you'd have probably gone, well, she's pretty good. Yeah, because the festive period's tough, isn't it? Because you can easily, you know, before you know it, you've lost three games on the bounce and you're out of things.
Micah Richards
But this month's tough as well. January, the number of games, I mean, this weekend, then you're back into midweek and then you've got.
Gary Lineker
With the FA cup, they'll probably rest a lot of the players, won't they?
Micah Richards
And we've got clubs away, I think, in the FA Cups. I think I'm doing that with the BBC core comms. I think that's who they've got on next Saturday. Yeah.
Gary Lineker
Okay, let's call it a day there. And don't forget, we've got our new series starts on Wednesday, where we're looking at football in icons in the Premier League history and with some of their action to boot, so hopefully you'll enjoy that. But for now, goodbye from me.
Micah Richards
Goodbye from me. Have a great week, everyone.
Episode: Arsenal’s Title To Lose, Amorim Takes Aim & Wolves Finally Win A Game!
Date: January 5, 2026
Hosts: Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Micah Richards
This episode delivers classic “Rest Is Football” energy as Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, and Micah Richards break down the Premier League’s big weekend: Arsenal’s steady title run, the managerial tumult at Chelsea and Manchester United, dramatic games and goals, and Wolves’ long-awaited win. The trio bring their trademark strong opinions, banter, and decades of football experience to every topic.
On Arsenal’s resilience:
“Declan Rice… he’s a manager’s dream. Regularly 7, 8 out of 10. Rarely misses games. What he does for the team is phenomenal.”
— Micah Richards (12:55)
On Chelsea’s expectations:
“Win trophies and get into the Champions League.”
— Micah Richards (08:58)
On Reuben Amorim’s United 'manager-not-coach' comments:
“He hasn’t got enough in the bank to be moaning… there’s only going to be one winner and it wouldn’t surprise me if he’s not there much longer at all.”
— Micah Richards (19:26)
On Wolves’ win:
“No one's got a better record in 2026 than Wolves.”
— Gary Lineker (35:33)
On West Ham’s malaise:
“...look at the Rice money, look at the Kudos money. Look at the money that they’ve spent and the recruitment of some of those players…”
— Micah Richards (40:08)
On Alan’s Newcastle fandom:
“He’s so emotional. Reactionary is the word I’ll use for you, Mr. Alan Shearer.”
— Guest Analyst (32:19)
Light-hearted VAR banter after controversial offside call:
“The one thing I’ll say is semis are never quite good enough.”
— Gary Lineker (28:58)
“You should be happy with this semi at your age.”
— Micah Richards (29:06)
| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:01–05:11 | Man City vs Chelsea analysis and tactical breakdown | | 07:28–09:25 | Chelsea management, Rosinha, owner interference | | 12:15–13:55 | Arsenal’s leadership, Declan Rice, Gabriel, squad depth | | 15:05–16:14 | City’s improvements, Rodri’s impact | | 18:24–19:26 | Amorim’s post-match outburst, ‘manager-not-coach’ debate | | 27:05–29:31 | Fulham–Liverpool thriller, Harrison Reed wondergoal | | 35:15–38:43 | Wolves’ drought-breaking win, Matheus Mané’s performance | | 40:08–41:48 | West Ham’s problems and the futility of the “managerial merry-go-round” | | 41:48–43:15 | Forest’s struggles, Tuesday's huge relegation clash | | 44:30–45:10 | Aston Villa’s home record, squad improvement | | 31:21 | Lewis Miley’s perfect passing for Newcastle |
Lively, humorous, and sharp, with friendly digs and classic footballer banter. The hosts interweave tactical breakdowns with fan perspectives and self-deprecating humor.
For full debate, jokes, and football wisdom, listen from 03:01 for the main discussion.