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For more information about land referrals and energy powering the full festive fixture list, head to landusenergy.com. Hello and welcome to the Rest Is Football with Micah Richards, Alan Shearer and me, Gary Lineke on our latest episode of the Premier League Greats the moments that made them We've got a diminutive soul, a very likable chapter. We probably all worked with a little bit in television over the years. One of Chelsea's greats and he came probably in the era just before Chelsea established themselves as a giant in terms of winning trophies. It's won Gianfranco Zola.
Alan Shearer
I also think Gary came at a time when maybe that year or the season before when he signed that it was just starting to turn and bringing the quality foreign players in into the Premier League, into the Premier League in general, I think because it started in 92, but then then two or three years after that I Think then we saw real quality, I think, coming probably.
Gary Lineker
Because people started to see that the Premier League was looking like it was going to be successful.
Alan Shearer
Yeah. And speaking of quality, this guy was. I mean, he was how good?
Micah Richards
We're talking.
Alan Shearer
We're talking one of the very, very best in terms of balance and technique and passing and dribbling ability with the ball. He was. He was fantastic. He was so hard to knock off the ball as well.
Gary Lineker
It was brilliant. He learned. He learned from one of the greats. Well, probably the great of his time, of his generation, Diego Maradona, really. He was at him, with him before, and, I mean, he even taught him free kicks. He learned off. Off Diego. Diego actually took him aside. He said, you do this well.
Alan Shearer
He did a good job teaching him. Yeah.
Gary Lineker
He was seen as the kind of, I suppose, following on from Diego, but, I mean, big, big boots to fill. But you could see why, because there were similarities, you know, diminutive and super skillful and deaf touch. And I mean, obviously Diego was Diego, but there were a lot of seriously, seriously talented players around. But Zola was. I thought he was really special.
Alan Shearer
He was lovely. Touch strong. Was he strong when you're trying to get. Knock him off the ball or get.
Gary Lineker
Him off the ball?
Alan Shearer
Yeah, he was. He was really strong.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, you just about crossed and you played against.
Alan Shearer
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Played against him, that Chelsea team. Yeah. Really top player. I played against him in charity things after I retired and, I mean, I perhaps didn't appreciate when I was playing against him in real games, just how good he was. And then I played against him in a charity game and I'm thinking, this guy, my God, no one could get the ball off him in the charity games. It was like he was. Yeah, he was such a good player. So intelligent. Touch. Touch was magnificent. Yeah. It was just the way he looked after the ball.
Gary Lineker
Yeah.
Alan Shearer
Protected the ball. Yeah.
Gary Lineker
He'd had quite a bit of a career before he actually came to England because he obviously played at Napoli with Diego and then Palmer, and that's where he went. Came to Chelsea from Palmer. He made his debut in 1996. Quite a good year for some people, Alan, that one, if you had a glimpse there before, you saw him take it with the right foot, he actually looks like Diego Madonna on the. Doesn't he hit tremendous free kicks. Oh, and he's done it. The Italian scores his first Chelsea goal. You see that, the way that he stands, but, you know, great right foot. In his case, that technique was brilliant.
Micah Richards
Because it's quite far out Isn't it?
Alan Shearer
Yeah, about 30 yards, isn't it? 30 yards makes it look like effortless, doesn't it?
Micah Richards
I wish I could take free kicks like that.
Alan Shearer
It makes it look easy, doesn't he? It's just like nonchalant, isn't it?
Gary Lineker
I never took a free goes up there. I don't think I ever took a free kick.
Alan Shearer
You couldn't kick it that far, could you?
Gary Lineker
No.
Alan Shearer
30 yards.
Gary Lineker
Not with the oddball laces in. It wasn't easier.
Micah Richards
Did you say you worked with him in tv?
Gary Lineker
Yeah, a few times.
Micah Richards
Lovely on BT or.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, I think bt. I think I'm trying to remember exactly when he was maybe the odd FA cup tie. I think the BBC as well.
Micah Richards
Okay.
Gary Lineker
Over the period, I think it was actually those. He's just really lovely.
Micah Richards
How does he see the game though? Is he. Is he super tactical or is he.
Alan Shearer
I mean, tried in management as well, isn't he?
Gary Lineker
Yeah, he was in management a few times. So it was, you know, he could see tactically you could see, but, you know. But he's also one of those footballers, is gifted technically. So, you know, if you could beat three or four players, you didn't need to worry about the tactical side of the game, did you? I don't think very much. But he was also brought here. The coach at the time was Alan's favorite. Rude. Rude. Chelsea. Yeah. And Rude did probably a bit better.
Alan Shearer
There than you than he did at Newcastle. Yeah. Was. Was Sian Franco in at the time with Viale as well?
Gary Lineker
Yes, he was. They were actually really close friends. I mean, Gianluca. Yeah, we all miss him, but bless him.
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
I mean, what a wonderful human he was. And they were super talented.
Alan Shearer
That was a really good, good team. That was then, wasn't it? Chelsea.
Gary Lineker
Yeah.
Alan Shearer
Just starting to. To build up. They. Dennis wives was around there as well, wasn't he?
Micah Richards
A bit before my time.
Alan Shearer
When you say your time.
Micah Richards
Yeah, yeah. I mean when he. What they say he came in 19 6. 96. I was only young.
Gary Lineker
He arrived in December. Right. And at the end of that season, he won the Football Writers Player of.
Alan Shearer
The Year for that season. Yeah. So he missed what, four months?
Gary Lineker
He missed four months. Yeah. He still won Football of the Year because he did quite a few bits European feel about Chelsea with Zola.
Alan Shearer
Lovely footwork from him.
Gary Lineker
He dances through.
Micah Richards
That's a nice call though, it, isn't it? Little chop.
Gary Lineker
He definitely had the chop. He could make you look a bit.
Alan Shearer
Yeah. One of the best around Dennis Irwin was.
Gary Lineker
Yeah. Fullbacks Alan Hansen used to say Dennis Irwin was the best right back and left back.
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
In the prim. Irwin was class, though, wasn't he? Yeah, it's brilliant. He was a brilliant player. So. Yeah, he was one of those great little dribblers, wasn't he? Yeah. With the numerous examples of that, I doubt that's probably been done before. Someone who signed off halfway through the season, I think.
Alan Shearer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Micah Richards
So football writers is all just a journalist.
Gary Lineker
That's the journalist one. Yeah. And there's obviously the players one, which is the. Yeah. PFA award. The football writers one has been going a lot longer. It's kind of quite prestigious.
Alan Shearer
Have to be some player when the football writers make it.
Micah Richards
Have you won one?
Alan Shearer
I think so, yeah.
Micah Richards
Just one.
Alan Shearer
Just.
Micah Richards
Is that all you've won?
Gary Lineker
Two.
Gordon Carrera
Oh, yeah.
Micah Richards
What do you get for that? Do you have to go up and give a speech?
Gary Lineker
It's actually a really nice. Nice award, actually. Like a statuette of a footballer. It's bronze. It's very nice. Yeah.
Alan Shearer
You mix in with.
Gary Lineker
What year did you win it, Al?
Alan Shearer
I think it was 95.
Gary Lineker
You mean you think it was.
Micah Richards
You know. Exactly.
Alan Shearer
I think it must have been when we won the league. 94. 95. Yeah, I think it was.
Micah Richards
Did you have to give a speech?
Alan Shearer
Yeah, he gave a speech.
Micah Richards
What was his speech called? I can't remember.
Gary Lineker
What was your speech 30 years ago?
Micah Richards
He remembers everything. He does. What was your speech?
Alan Shearer
I haven't got a clue. Honestly, I can't remember.
Micah Richards
You need to get footage of that.
Gary Lineker
Yeah.
Alan Shearer
It's a great honor. You guys are judging us all season to stand here before you. Thank you very much.
Micah Richards
Yeah, that's my worst fear, giving a speech. So many people around, finding the right words.
Alan Shearer
You must love giving speech. Talking in front of.
Micah Richards
I don't mind talking football in front of people, giving a speech, you know, it's just. It's not me at all.
Gary Lineker
Or just as well. You weren't that good then. Bit harsh, but you did ask for that. I think one of his most memorable goals was actually in his final season. And it was. It's called the farewell lob in many ways because he's at the end. But you'll remember this one. There isn't time for another Chelsea attack.
Alan Shearer
Bar Zola reaches the long ball and.
Gary Lineker
Scores at the very, very last.
Micah Richards
Oh, yes.
Gary Lineker
I mean by the outside.
Alan Shearer
The right finish. Outside of the right foot.
Gary Lineker
Brilliant lob, wasn't it? Oh, he's 36 by this stage and he'd been here for six years. So he didn't really join until he was.
Micah Richards
Is it. Who's in there? Is that Richard Wright? I think that's Richard.
Alan Shearer
It must be. Was against Everton. I think it is, yeah. What a finish.
Gary Lineker
That is cool.
Alan Shearer
There's not many could have done that.
Gary Lineker
No. Or even, you know, the have the wherewithal to see the keeper out on the angle as well. Brilliant effort.
Micah Richards
Did you score any goals like that?
Alan Shearer
Not like that.
Gary Lineker
No way.
Alan Shearer
Not from that angle like that. No chance.
Gary Lineker
No.
Alan Shearer
It's a great finish. Clever player. Lovely guy as well. Chelsea fans loved him.
Gary Lineker
Still do.
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
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Alan Shearer
Zola.
Gary Lineker
Just.
Alan Shearer
Turning on the magic. How the Chelsea fans love that. What a piece of skill.
Gary Lineker
Look inside out. He turns him inside out about six times.
Alan Shearer
Took Patrick Berger to stop him, look.
Gary Lineker
Yeah, but that's, that's why it's not great being a defender, Micah, isn't it? Because sometimes you can look humiliated. I mean, we can humiliate ourselves as forwards by missing a sitter, but when someone.
Micah Richards
That's never happened to me that, though. Oh my.
Alan Shearer
Danny Murphy's in there as well, look.
Micah Richards
Is that Danny Murphy?
Alan Shearer
Danny Murphy in there?
Micah Richards
Ballon d'.
Gordon Carrera
Or.
Alan Shearer
Ballon d', or, Danny. Ballon d'.
Gary Lineker
Or.
Micah Richards
Play one more time for his age.
Gary Lineker
Just for the pleasure of watching carrier humiliated. Is that what you're looking for?
Micah Richards
Look at the balance though there. Strength like you mentioned there, Al.
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
Micah Richards
And then his awareness, the brain, the chop. Just one too many touches, isn't it, Danny?
Gary Lineker
With a little bit of hair there. Just a little bit of hair Danny Murphy had on that shot. Just a bit of bald patch at the top.
Alan Shearer
So he was only in the Premier League six years. Five and a half.
Gary Lineker
Six years. Five and a half. 6 years. But made a huge impact. How do you play against someone like that, Mike?
Micah Richards
It's difficult.
Gary Lineker
Those jinky wingers, did you prefer the quick knock it and run because you fancy your chances on pace?
Micah Richards
Yeah, quick and quick and thick though, weren't they back there?
Gary Lineker
Quick and thick and thick.
Alan Shearer
Remember?
Micah Richards
Well, I know the line. Or you basically name names, the strong arm name names for your Walcott.
Alan Shearer
That's quick or thick.
Gary Lineker
You now work with on occasionally.
Micah Richards
Okay, fine, that was joke for you. Yeah, Just chat. But no, I, I, I think that's the hardest type of player to play against. It's similar to David Silva where he's all small but his first touch is so good.
Gary Lineker
What you do with him, Just try and kick him off.
Micah Richards
Just smash him. Early doors.
Gary Lineker
Smash them.
Micah Richards
Smash them early doors. Get your body in there, let them know you're there. Yeah, and that's all you can do.
Alan Shearer
You can't smash players nowadays though, can you?
Gary Lineker
It's like they can't do it now, can you?
Alan Shearer
Smashing players is gone, isn't it?
Micah Richards
You smashed a few back in your day, didn't you?
Alan Shearer
Well, I tried to, yeah, because there's, they tried me first.
Gary Lineker
Sneaky. I know you Sneaky elbow keen.
Micah Richards
Because every time we talk about this, he sort of go into your shell, don't you? You basically. You squared up to him and he bottled it.
Alan Shearer
Who bottled it?
Micah Richards
You bottled it. I've seen footage of you bottling it, mate.
Gary Lineker
Have you?
Micah Richards
I thought you were shearer aggressive and whatnot.
Gary Lineker
I'm not having that, Mike. I don't believe that.
Micah Richards
He did a sneaky little elbow.
Gary Lineker
Why did. Just. Why does he all say you were sneaky?
Alan Shearer
Ask him. I don. Do I really have to go into it?
Micah Richards
Yeah, please go into it. What happened on. On that day?
Alan Shearer
We just had a row.
Micah Richards
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
Happens, doesn't it?
Micah Richards
And that was it.
Gary Lineker
I think he bears a grudge, though, don't you?
Micah Richards
No, he doesn't.
Gary Lineker
Sheer, isn't he? Sneaky.
Micah Richards
Sneaky. He said he was sneaky, but he was joking.
Gary Lineker
Sneaky elbows.
Alan Shearer
Reaction gone past there, you know. I'm not having a bite on you boys. Yeah, not today, anyway.
Gary Lineker
You scared of him, aren't we? I mean, Chelsea's overall success came just after Zola left, obviously because of the Abramovich era. And it was a remarkably successful period. But people like that paved the way.
Alan Shearer
Yeah, but he. I think he won an FA cup and a League cup as well, didn't he? Just. Just before that. And then. Then Chelsea started changing. Then they. The era of Roman. And then all of a sudden it was like. And then we talk about bringing foreign players in and they brought in some of the very, very best. I remember when Drogba came in, we'd play against Drogba in Newcastle and. And some of the players that then were in Chelsea and where Chelsea were about to go.
Gary Lineker
Do you blame Newcastle against Drogba when he played for Marseille?
Alan Shearer
Yeah.
Gary Lineker
Did you remember that game? He was unbelievable.
Alan Shearer
Unbelievable.
Gary Lineker
Came in my head that, yeah, we.
Alan Shearer
Played because he went up against Jonathan Woodgate. It was a really, really good defender. He stood out. He was like. We were like, oh, my God, he's doing that to. Doing that to one of the best around at that time. And, yeah, that's when we first saw Drogba at Marseille.
Micah Richards
What was it like to play against Desai when he was at Chelsea?
Gary Lineker
Yeah, he was.
Alan Shearer
He was top, great player. Top player.
Gary Lineker
Have I told you my favorite punditry story about Marcel Desai? Which my best favorite, most favorite ever, ever punditry line anyone has ever delivered. So we're doing a game live on tv. Live on television. It was one of the. I had the Euros or way back, way back, long time ago. And he was Doing a bit of Pondicherry with us. And there was Alan Hansen, I think Mark Lawrenson as well, or something like this. And we were talking. It was. France were playing and we were discussing Thierry Henry, one of our favorites, obviously, but we were discussing Thierry Henry and I was saying to Marcel, I think he was getting a lot of stick from the French press at the time, and he'd been in Arsenal for eight. He was like absolute superstar in our country. And I was. I said to Marcel, I said, well, what is it with, like, the French press and Thierry Henry? They don't seem to get him like we get him. They don't. I don't give him much love, they're quite critical, etc. Etc. And he says, well, you. You have to understand in the France, he said, we are used to, like, some of the great players in the game. We have had, like Michel Platini, we have. We have Zinedine Zidane, we have Marcel Desai.
Micah Richards
Hanson's face.
Gary Lineker
Hanson went, oh, he's brilliant. I loved him for it.
Micah Richards
I love.
Gary Lineker
Every time I see him, I look, he's Marcel's guy. Yeah. We sneaked away from Gianfranco Zola, but he was. He was someone that lifted the Premier League, no question.
Alan Shearer
Absolutely, yeah. Superb in what he did. And just before Roman's era, he sort of. They set the way then, those boys, didn't they, for what Chelsea were about to embark on, what would you say.
Micah Richards
His best asset was?
Gary Lineker
Dribbling.
Micah Richards
Dribbling?
Alan Shearer
I think so, yeah. Trying to get the ball off him.
Micah Richards
What was his passing like, though?
Alan Shearer
Passing was good. I mean, balls in were superb as well.
Gary Lineker
He was a technician, Mike, that's what he was. The technician that looked that right foot, free kicks, you know, set pieces, beating players.
Micah Richards
Better than Mancini.
Gary Lineker
Different, really. Roberto was more central because he played. I played in, funnily enough. I played against Mancini and Viale in the final of the European Cup Winners cup when we won Barcelona against Sampadoria and they both played that day. Just thought I'd bring that up as a rare trophy.
Alan Shearer
Just in case anyone had forgotten. Gary played for Barcelona.
Gary Lineker
I don't like to mention it too frequently, but just it's. It's good for people to understand that I wasn't that. And neither was Gianfranco Zara. So that's it for this episode of the Rest Is Football. Goodbye from me.
Micah Richards
Goodbye for me.
Alan Shearer
Goodbye from me.
Gary Lineker
Hello.
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Release Date: February 4, 2026
Hosts: Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, Micah Richards
This episode of "The Rest Is Football" is a warm, insightful tribute to Chelsea legend Gianfranco Zola. The hosts—Gary Lineker, Alan Shearer, and Micah Richards—celebrate the moments, technique, and personality that made Zola one of the Premier League's most beloved and transformative figures. Equal parts football nostalgia, banter, and tactical appreciation, the panel discuss Zola's legacy, on-field magic, broader impact at Chelsea, and connections to other greats of his era.
On Zola’s skill:
“Balance and technique and passing and dribbling ability with the ball. He was fantastic.” (Alan Shearer, 03:19)
On facing Zola:
“No one could get the ball off him in the charity games. It was like he was... such a good player. So intelligent.” (Alan Shearer, 04:29)
On football writers' awards:
“Have to be some player when the football writers make it.” (Alan Shearer, 08:37)
On Zola embarrassing Carragher:
“He turns him inside out about six times.” (Gary Lineker, 13:40)
“Look at the balance though there. Strength like you mentioned, Al.” (Micah Richards, 14:14)
On handling skillful attackers:
“Just smash him. Early doors. Get your body in there, let them know you're there.” (Micah Richards, 15:26)
General tribute:
“He was someone that lifted the Premier League, no question.” (Gary Lineker, 19:19)
The episode is light-hearted, full of anecdotes, and playful ribbing—especially around award speeches and Alan’s reputation for on-pitch sneaky elbows. The respect towards Zola is universal, blending affectionate football nostalgia with technical praise:
A lively, affectionate look at Gianfranco Zola’s unique Premier League legacy, “The Moments That Made Them” celebrates the Italian’s dazzling skill, influence on Chelsea’s European transformation, and delightful character on and off the pitch. Through personal memories and tactical breakdowns, the hosts reaffirm why Zola remains a beloved icon for Chelsea and football fans everywhere.
Recommended for: Fans of Premier League history, Chelsea supporters, anyone who appreciates technical artistry in football, and listeners who enjoy football anecdotes mixed with expert analysis and laughter.