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Gary Lineker
Well, that's cool.
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Carvana Customer
No, you don't understand. It went perfectly. Real offer down to the penny. They're picking it up tomorrow. Nothing went wrong.
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Gary Lineker
So what's the problem?
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Carvana Customer
That is the problem. Nothing in my life goes to smoothly. I'm waiting for the catch.
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Gary Lineker
Maybe there's no catch.
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Carvana Customer
That's exactly what a catch would want me to think.
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Gary Lineker
Wow. You need to relax.
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Carvana Customer
I need to knock on wood. Do we have wood? Is this table wood?
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Gary Lineker
I think it's laminate.
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Carvana Customer
Okay. Yeah, that's good. That's close enough.
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Gary Lineker
Car selling without a catch.
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Micah Richardson
Sell your car today on Carvana.
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Gary Lineker
Pick up fees may apply. Coming up on today's show as a complete neutral, I would say it's a victory for positive football over negative football. I think definitely the best team have won the tournament.
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Micah Richardson
Again, it was attack versus defence. Arsenal can't match PSG for player to player, can they? We all know.
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Gary Lineker
I looked at the two teams before the start. Thought woof.
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Micah Richardson
When you're a defender and you're approaching a penalty. Defenders union and all that. We just say hit it as hard as you can. He didn't look confident, you know, it's almost like he just wanted to get it over and done with. The license they are given, they make such a difference to psg.
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Gary Lineker
It was like watching Michael Richards at his prime. Well, and more.
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Micah Richardson
It was like Michael Richards in his prime.
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Gary Lineker
I was being ironic. Hello and welcome to the Resties Football with Micah Richardson. Me, Gary Lineker recording this on Sunday afternoon after the Champions League final was played last night. And Alan has another lunch. Micah.
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Micah Richardson
Oh, my.
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Gary Lineker
This game.
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Micah Richardson
This game, unacceptable. Now, I think you're the big boss. Guys, you're gonna need to step in.
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Gary Lineker
I think he has more lunches than Gordon Ramsay. I don't know what's going on.
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Micah Richardson
He loves it, didn't he? I even give him the option. I'm free all evening.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, I know. Have you been mixing it with the Stars?
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Micah Richardson
With David Beckham and Mick Jagger?
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Gary Lineker
Yeah.
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Micah Richardson
What a cool dude. He is 82 and he's. He's got banter like he's. He's my age and he's just, you know, someone's. Someone's got charisma. He's got so much charisma. Big Arsenal fan. We had him on the Beckham and Friends show for the first 10, 15 minutes and yeah, it was really nice.
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Gary Lineker
I reckon, actually, I can trump you. I've just been for lunch at the River Cafe and Elton John walked in. John with his family, his two boys chatted with them. Obviously they're Watford fans.
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Micah Richardson
What was Elton John? Candle in the Wind.
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Gary Lineker
What was Elton John? That was. That was.
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Micah Richardson
That was.
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Gary Lineker
I know, but that was one of them.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah.
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Gary Lineker
One of.
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Micah Richardson
One of Rocky.
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Gary Lineker
There are a lot. There are a lot of hits. So John said a lot of hits. There was Steve Martin. You know, Steve Martin, the American?
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Micah Richardson
No.
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Gary Lineker
Richard E. Grant. You might have heard of him. No, probably not.
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Micah Richardson
I probably know them by face.
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Gary Lineker
Oh, you will definitely know both of them by face. And here's one even you might have heard of. Tom Hanks.
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Micah Richardson
Tom Hanks. I certainly know Top Hanks. What a legend he is.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, I know. It was.
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Micah Richardson
So you mixing with a listers as you guys?
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Gary Lineker
Well, for a little while, yeah. Let's. Let's talk about a bit of football. It was obviously disappointing for Arsenal and they missed out on the penalties and we'll come to that. But I think overall, probably. Well, I think definitely the best team have won the tournament again.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, I would say so. But having reflected on the game, I actually think Arteta got it spot on in terms of his tactics. So we all talked about the PSG buying game, did we? It was, you know, all the talent on show, really high energy, really top quality. But Arsenal can't match PSG for player to player, can they? We all know.
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Gary Lineker
I looked at the two teams before this and I thought, woof, that's a goal.
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Micah Richardson
It was a golf, wasn't there?
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Gary Lineker
There is, realistically, I think, in certain
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Micah Richardson
positions particularly, and I just think, how can you approach a game against psg? And the way Arsenal set up for a defensive unit and I'm looking at it from a defender and if you're neutral, everyone's going to say it's a boring game. But if you look tactically, what Arteta did and how they stayed, if you give Clavoskheli a time on the ball, it's going to make you look stupid. Same with Dembele. Same with Due. We know we've talked about the midfield all season. Vitinia, Joao Neves, outstanding. The way Arsenal played against them, every time the ball went to one side of the pitch, they shuffled across and then when they had to jump, they jumped at the right time. The only problem for Arsenal, I thought, is when they got the ball back, they couldn't get out. So you expected Havertz to hold the ball a little bit more when it went up to Trossard and then when they tried to break, he was a little bit too deep. So that's the only thing I took from it for. Could they have been a bit more positive in that way? Could they have gone with a Martinelli? Could they started with a Yokerez? Maybe just for the transition, but in terms of defensively, I thought they did the job ever so well. I really did well.
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Gary Lineker
They do defend very well. I mean, looking at the game as, you know, as a fan with no skin in the game, other than the fact that I do genuinely like to see the Premier League teams win, and I think that would have been great. We've obviously won the other two European competitions. I would say that Arsenal had to play that way. I don't think they could probably have beaten them if they'd played expansive football, entertaining football, but at the same time, I would say probably football won, though. I know there are all sorts of different ways to play and you can play defensively, but ultimately football is a sport, it's an entertainment, and you want to see teams that are really positive, creative, have the best players. And play wonderful football. And I think this season those three teams have been Bayern Munich, PSG and Barcelona. Yeah, I think our sides have struggled a bit in terms of that side of the game. And Arsenal are brilliant defensively. And if they'd have held on not giving away that penalty, I mean, PSG didn't create much because Arsenal was so well organized in the structure and the manner of the played, like you said. So I just think as a complete neutral, I would say it's a victory for positive football over negative football. I saw similarities between Arsenal's final appearance to England's against Italy in the Euros at Wembley. I saw similarities of when England played Croatia in the semifinal in the 2018 World cup in Russia. So I saw similarities there where you score early and then you think, now they probably would have played the same way anyway. But I think the fact that they did get that early goal and you've got something to hold on to made them even more determined, I think, to play on a defensive manner. But as a forward, as someone who, you know, likes the beautiful game, I just love to see attacking football and I think in terms, in the way the sport should be played, I think the best team won.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, I would say the most entertaining team won, definitely. If you look at football, it was attack versus defence, and we all want to see that and the bravery of the players. Travis Scalia now, even though he had a, I would say, quieter game than usual than you expected, obviously, because the way Arsenal set up, but when he gets on the ball, it's just so, so dangerous, the way you can go both ways. But when you look at wingers now, guys and I, because I play fullback, I always look at what wingers do and how they've evolved and yes, the play with free up front, but I'm sick to death of wingers coming back and playing the simple pass. Krava Scalia never, ever plays a simple pass. He always tries to be positive. I'm watching him live, especially higher up Bird's eye view. Tactically, he can see what he wants. He always wants the ball. And he couldn't get past mascara for the first time until. Until they got the penalty. But he was still going, trying to do and make something happen. And that is the difference. So when you're talking about positive football, yes, that's what I'd like to see. I would love to see someone like Saka in a PSG so he can go out people a little bit more. A lot of his energy is spent defending because of the setup of the team, rightly or wrongly. But watching some of those performances from PSG over the course of the season. Vitinia, he's the best midfield in Europe at the moment, in form, without doubt. Charles Neves, the way he's just so composed on the ball. Dembele, the way he presses due was quieter by his standards, I would say, because there was no space to run into. But I really like Pacho. Pacho, the center half who doesn't really get a credit. Everyone talked about Saliba and Gabriel, but I thought Pacho was really good.
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Gary Lineker
I saw on social media. Do you see his history and why he wears number 51?
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Micah Richardson
No, I didn't see that.
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Gary Lineker
Quite poignant, actually. He broke through, obviously, in his home country. And on the day that he was to make his professional debut, his mother passed. Mother died? Yeah. On. And they didn't tell him before the game, they told him after the game and she was 51.
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Micah Richardson
Wow.
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Gary Lineker
And he's obviously gone on to great things and certainly would have made his mother very proud. But I totally agree with you. Inspirational story, inspirational player, and we'll see in the World Cup. But it's interesting what you said about Klavatskheli and the way he takes people on. We know we're inundated with stats these days and sometimes. Do you know, the players that tend to give the ball away the most are also the most creative players. So many years I saw the stats in Barcelona that the person who lost the ball the most was Messi. And it's like Kravich Galio probably would be something similar, but they're the people that take the most risk because they've got the most ability to do it. So they actually make a huge impact, even if, you know, their stats. See, stats can lie a little bit sometimes. So I thought that was quite fascinating, those things. I remember another player that gave the ball away a lot was demaria, plays for Argentina, and he was another one that always tried forward passes and trying to get the ball through a knee, you know. So I think, you know, you can see those sort of players and they're the ones that actually, I think, make the difference in the end. Because if you've got no one taking chances, you're not going to create chances.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah. But also having the license to do that. If you look at the way PSG set up their fullbacks, Nuno Mendo, Nuno Mendes, apparently now not Nuno Menge, so Nuno Mendes, don't tell me after all
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Gary Lineker
this Nuna Menge, you've got it Wrong.
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Micah Richardson
Apparently it's just Nuno Mendes, so apparently I got it wrong. And Hakimi. The license they are given. They was both doubts before the game, guys. Both doubts. They played the four. How is that even possible? Up and down, up and down, up and down. But going with real conviction and quality. They make such a difference to psg.
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Gary Lineker
It was like watching Mike Eric is at his prime. Well, and more.
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Micah Richardson
It was like in his prime.
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Gary Lineker
I was being ironic. I didn't really mean it.
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Micah Richardson
Well, you know, he's so good seeing them do the things that they've been doing all season, but then implement that in a final because, you know. Yes. The holders, they won it last year. Could they do it again? Yes, they would have liked to do it in normal time. I felt as though, for me, when Dembele came off and when Kravashela came off, Borkola had that chance. When he went through, I think the quality dropped off a little bit.
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Gary Lineker
Well, I think he did. Yeah. I don't think that. I think that's just a fact, you know, that, you know, Barclays is great to have as a sub, but he's. He's not as good as the aforementioned.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, totally agree. And Dembele, for what he's done that to take the penalty, the pressure. And we were sort of behind the PSG fans and they were so nervous. Half of the fans weren't even looking. We're too nervous to look at. When he put it in, it was just. Just relief. And those fans were brilliant. PSG as well.
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Gary Lineker
A couple of decisions people have been talking about a lot. There's the sacker handball and then the penalty shout for Madweki when he went. Went through. I actually think they were right with both. I know a lot of people said, well, Saka handled it well. The first. The ball ricocheted off his shoulder, didn't it? I thought his shoulder and then went down, hit his hand, which is. And his hand was actually by his thigh. So I didn't think that, but I could. I was surpr. They didn't give it because you know what they're like in this competition, anything that touches your hand. So I was surprised they didn't give it, but I. I would hate to see penalties given for that. But they are. But they are in a Champions League final. And actually, when you look at the Madweki thing again, if there was a foul, it was probably outside the box. And also Mad Wecky did seem to wrap his arm around him. So I think the officiating got Got those decisions. Right. Other people would disagree, of course.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah. I think they're certainly not enough to oorTurn the Madweke one. I think if we'd have been given on field, you hold. You hold your hands up and say, it's a little bit soft, but you understand why he's doing it. But you're not going to overturn that. The soccer one. Like you said, champion, even. Forget even the Champions League final. But in any football, it's not intentional, is it? It's come off of his ricky.
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Gary Lineker
So that doesn't seem. That doesn't matter anymore, does it?
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Micah Richardson
I know, but it's. It's. It's. It's. It's the phrases with the law that people are sort of weaving and using terminology on one thing and not on another. It was one of those. It ricocheted off him. If it would have been given, you would have understood why it would be given. But we don't want to be seeing them given, which we've said consistently all season.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah. And we want to go back to how the handball law used to be, which was. There had to be a degree of intent now.
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Micah Richardson
Yes.
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Gary Lineker
And there clearly wasn't. And it was like in the Champions League final, you know, Liverpool Spurs a few years ago, I was at the game in Madrid and Sissoko didn't.
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Gary Lineker
His arm was out and someone struck the ball and. And obviously was away from his body and. And they gave a penalty. I mean, you can't have rules for one game and rules for another in a final. But I think if we could get back to a bit of bloody common sense about just change, you know, because we'll all end up arguing about every decision, and we still will. And we did do in our day about handballs and stuff, but it's become, I think, pretty ludicrous now that. Yeah, totally. Yeah. And then apparently shootout. It's just a bloody awful way to lose. Yeah, I mean, it is, but a great way to win, I would suggest as well.
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Micah Richardson
I know, but imagine worth. What did Arsenal concede? 6 goals up until the final and then 7. 7 goals when they conceded the penalty. And Arsenal have gone all the way through the competition without losing. It just. It just penalties. It's taken away from them. And that's how cruel football is. And like you said, on the balance of who was trying to win the game more, it would be in PSG's, you know, favor. So you say, okay, they tried to play. Maybe the football gods had spoken and said, okay, they tried to play their Football, they tried to win, so they probably deserved it. But to be have it taken away from you on a penalty shootout, it just seems harsh. You know what I want to do, though? I want to get rid of extra time. It's not, I've said this for years, it's nonsense. No one's trying to win. Everyone's knackered. There's been so much football throughout the season. It's a waste of time. It's a waste of time.
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Gary Lineker
I've been saying this for years. It's ludicrous. The only time I think you could, I mean you possibly could have one is in a huge final, possibly because the World cup we saw that was an amazing extra time, which is such a rarity. They also need to help footballers out a little bit because, I mean, I know, yes, they're unbelievably well paid and all this stuff, but in terms of the supporters who pay, you want to see fit, fresh footballers that are, that are going to give you the most entertainment possible. But at the moment we don't, we've got more and more fixtures. There are more Champions League games now than there were a few years ago because of, you know, the nature of the group. Group stage is now a league stage and we're going to the World cup where there's an extra round of matches. So that's an extra game. I was going to come to the club World cup as well. So please, at least give us something back and stop extra time because I think 90 of the time, unless it's your team, unless it's your team as a neutral. You're watching a game and it, and it's a draw at the end of full time, you say, oh, hope it goes to penalties, but you don't, sometimes you don't want to wait for another 45 minutes because it takes forever now. And it would be a little bit of something that wouldn't take away from the game at all to say we're not going to force players when they're completely exhausted and knackered, which, imagine this World cup, there'll be so many extra times playing the heat and it'll be difficult and a lot of them will still go to panties anyway. Yeah, just get rid of extra time. It's, I, I, I've never really been a, a fan of it anyway. So if you can't sort it out in 90 minutes, then let's get the penalties going and then, well, the penalties. There's always someone that's got a miss. If, I mean, I will Say, as I always say, give them credit for being prepared to put themselves on the line under severe pressure. I seen Aberitchie as he's got a bit of stick because of his stuttering thing and he's missed a couple before like that. But I would also that if he'd have scored, no one would have uttered a word. Some of the penalty takers, that Arsenal would probably want to take them, I can think of immediately. Saka, you go. Was not on the pitch. So, you know, was he originally planned to be number five? Possibly not. And again, if he'd have scored, no one would have. It's so easy after the event.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, I. When Gabriel stepped up, though, and I don't want to say look nervous, because you could probably say that about every player that stepped up, but I was wondering what technique he was going to use. So when you're a defender and you're approaching a penalty, defenders union and all that would just say, hit it as hard as you can. That's what we think. And when he was running up and taking it, he didn't look confident, you know, it's almost like he just wanted to get it over and done with, you know, And I can't remember who sat next to me and said, gabriel's going to hit this as hard as he possibly can, it's going to go over the bar. And that's exactly what happened as well. You know, he just got a sense of the feeling. But like you said, fair play for him stepping up. He wanted to lead by example. But I would have liked to see Mad Wakey take one, you know, a technician. I know it's easy saying that, like you said after the event, but that's why you've got the players, they have better technique, they're playing forward positions because they have better techniques. Even if you're nervous, your probability is higher if you're more technical.
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Gary Lineker
You thought so? Oh, no, I totally agree with you. But if you're not prepared, if you're not up for it, if you.
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Micah Richardson
Well, and that's not me throwing my wiki under the bus. I just think if you've got technical players on the pitch, you've got. You give yourself a better chance.
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Gary Lineker
I always thought PSG Mark wouldn't permanently shoot out a game because of the technical abilities, although a lot of their great players were off the pitch as well by that stage as well. And that's the other thing, isn't it? But the time you've played extra time, there's, you know, half your team is different to the team that starts. Starts the game. But overall, I think Arsenal need to, you know, brush themselves down and say it's been a pretty good season. They've won the Premier League, which I think a lot of the Arsenal fans would have taken ahead of the Champions League. Not all of them because they've never won that trophy, so. But all in all, it's been a very successful season. I'd like to see them play next season now they've got that off their back a little bit more adventurously, tactically. Would you agree?
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, definitely. I think in terms of the pressure's off now and I think recruitment's going to be key because they've got a really good squad.
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Gary Lineker
Arsenal, what do they need?
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Micah Richardson
I think they actually need another striker. Havertz is outstanding in terms of technical ability. I think Jocherez has done well for coming in in his first season, but if they could get someone like Alvarez, it would just give him something a little different.
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Gary Lineker
You know, he's got a 500 million euro buyout clause. Have you seen. Have you seen the responses from Atletico Madrid towards Barcelona?
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Micah Richardson
No.
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Gary Lineker
Well, they've had a real pop at Barcelona for allegedly tapping him up. Yeah, it's been a bit of social media fun. Let's say athletic are not happy.
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Micah Richardson
They're not happy.
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Gary Lineker
Not happy about that.
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Micah Richardson
That's what happens when your players are playing well. He's one of the best strikers in world football at the moment and going into the World Cup. World cup winner as well in the last tournament. So it's to be expected.
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Gary Lineker
I think they need a wide left.
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Micah Richardson
Yes, I would agree with that. I also think they need another centre midfielder. I think not bringing in Norgaard has worked to a certain degree in terms of his temperament. So he's not going to moan if he's not playing Miles. Louis Kelly could definitely do a job in there.
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Gary Lineker
I thought his performance was exceptional. Young. Well, teenager. I thought he did really well. I mean, he's a teenager, but he's bloody mature in terms of his performing.
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Micah Richardson
I just feel. So to get the best out of someone like Zubamendi, you need to be a little bit higher so he can get on the ball and then distribute his passing for a little bit deeper and dictate.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, you don't want him on the ball. 80 yards from goal.
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Micah Richardson
Exactly, exactly. That which is so difficult. And then in the Premier League, the energy. So if they were to tweak the way they play, he could definitely be important in terms of. But I just feel, though at times when you're moving Miles Louis Kelly to left back and you want that physicality and that pace and that power, plus his technical ability. If you can get someone else in the middle with, with a rice, just a bit more box to box, a bit higher energy, a bit more aggressive that a left winger and a striker and I think they can compete for two, three, four years. That's how good I think they can be.
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Gary Lineker
I definitely agree with that. They're definitely going to be one of main contenders, obviously for the Premier League, but also the Champions League. Again, let's take a break. Michael. When we come back, I want to discuss one or two issues. We haven't talked about Crystal Palace's European triumph. We might have a word on Villa, even though we have on theirs as well. And also of course, the dismissal of Arne Slot. Back in a moment. This episode is brought to you by
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Gary Lineker
It's nearly that time, everyone. The rest is football will be on Netflix every day for the world's biggest tournament. Join myself, Alan and Micah for daily debates, unfiltered takes and the most special of guests, all from the heart of New York City. Yeah, that's right.
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Hotels.com Announcer
We're excited too.
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Gary Lineker
See you soon.
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Lego Group Announcer
This segment is brought to you by the Lego Group. World Cups tend to be remembered in images, and between Argentina, France and Brazil, there are already plenty. We've each got Lego edition football sets in front of us, and once you put Mbappe, Messi and Vinicius Jr. On the table, legacies are on the line. All eyes are on Vinicius Jr. To create his own piece of history. In Qatar, Messi lifted the trophy in what felt like the final piece of an extraordinary story. And Mbappe scored a hat trick in the same game. But it feels like he still has more of his World cup story to write. Even though he's won him. So with the FIFA World Cup 2026 on the way, which moment will the next generation remember? Is it going to be one of these three in front of us?
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Micah Richardson
Shall we just start on Vinicius Jr? I mean, what two Champions Leagues? The only problem is when you've got someone like R9, Pele and Neymar, all superstars, I think it's his time to shine now. He's got to be the one to take him to the next level. And he's got the ability. I'm not sure he's got the teammates.
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Lego Group Announcer
They've got some good players.
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Micah Richardson
They've got good players. Yeah.
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Lego Group Announcer
Got some really, really good players and a very good manager.
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Micah Richardson
Ancelotti.
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Lego Group Announcer
Carlo Ancelotti.
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Guest Analyst
What about Messi then? Gonna play in his sixth.
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Gary Lineker
He's still got it. Do you think he's still performing?
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Guest Analyst
He's obviously a performer. I just think the last one was probably his best one. I think in terms of him winning it the way he did. What a player. What a story. I mean, to play in six is incredible, isn't it? Two golden balls as well in the. In the previous ones. He's. He's played in. So not sure they'll better what. What they did and go again.
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Lego Group Announcer
Well, it'd be hard to do that again, wouldn't it?
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Gary Lineker
But you never know.
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Lego Group Announcer
France will be one of the favorites. And you know Mbappe, superstar Kiki, he's won the World cup, scored a hatrick in a World cup final and lost. Scored pretty much a goal, a game
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Gary Lineker
for this season, 1440, something like that. I mean, he's going to take some stopping.
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Lego Group Announcer
The only thing is, I'm so bad about that team, is that there are so many superstars up front and where do they fit in and what position does. Because Mbappe's been playing as a nine at club level. Will he play the same way for France?
- [28:48]
Gary Lineker
All going to be very intriguing.
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Lego Group Announcer
How long did it take to put that together?
- [28:52]
Micah Richardson
Only a couple hours.
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Guest Analyst
For each one?
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Micah Richardson
No, for the lot. For all of them? Yeah. Two hours.
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Lego Group Announcer
Pretty impressive.
- [28:58]
Micah Richardson
I'm good with my hands.
- [29:00]
Lego Group Announcer
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- [29:48]
Gary Lineker
Welcome back to the Resties Football with Mike Richardson and me, Gary Lineker. I suppose the big news aside from the Champions League final was that Arnie Slot has parted company with Liverpool. It looked like he was maybe going to stay and then suddenly it happened. I don't know whether it was a late change of mind or whatever happened. Some people think so. We won't know that but. Were you surprised Micah?
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Micah Richardson
No, I wasn't surprised when I heard the news. It was just if you look at Liverpool last sort of 10 games there was nothing really there was there and the amount of money that they spent and Liverpool historically don't spend that money. So he was always going to be under more scrutiny and more pressure. I love Slot. I think he's a really good manager. You to deal with the whole thing of Klopp leaving and then to win a Premier League. Let's not forget, you know, Liverpool had not won a Premier League for was it 30 years. Klopp comes and does that, Slot does that and people will say oh well it was Klopp's team. It might have been but you've still got to navigate the ship to where it needs to go, which is a
- [30:55]
Gary Lineker
difficult thing to do.
- [30:56]
Micah Richardson
He had a little bit of calm, they changed a little bit in terms of their tempo and it worked for them. I just feel there was a little bit of a disconnect between the manager and the fans at the end. And the Liverpool style has always been high energy, be aggressive and use anfield to your advantage. And in the end they had none of that. So would I have given another year? Yes, because of the whole thing we've said all season season in terms of Diego Jota and what that did, the whole thing with him falling out with Salah didn't help early part of the season and then at the end of the season he was always under pressure so they had to make a decision. And with Man City changing Pep leaving with who was on the market at the time, I just feel as though they made the decision in the best interest for Liverpool Football Club which is the right thing to do. So I wasn't surprised but if I I would have given one more year because of him winning the league title. He's had the league title in the bag. So I feel as though he deserves another season with ESAT back with some more signings or whatever that may be or what that may look like. So yeah, people might say it's harsh but I wasn't surprised.
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Gary Lineker
No I think I wasn't. I could sort of sense it was coming. There's a lot of talk about people saying it must have been a late decision because otherwise you know, why wouldn't they have gone for Xavi Alonso who's gone for to Chelsea? I would say though I think they've probably looked at the Liverpool style. The Liverpool Brandon, you know we always go down well. He was a former player, knows the club which I always think what does that mean? And he can go back and he'd been very successful but I'm not sure it would have been a massive change in it. Certainly his style of football was not like a Jurgen Klopp style of football because he played three at the back, you know, with his fullbacks and it was a fairly slowish build up a lot of the time. So I wonder whether they were thinking more along the lines of someone who perhaps is a better fit with high energy, high octane football. And lot of the talk is that it might be Iriola who does play, play that sort of style and did really well with Bournemouth which is, you know it's not as easy to do because you haven't got the quality of player that Liverpool would have. So I'm a little bit skeptic about the fact that they missed out on Xabi Alonso. I think they would not have been naive enough to think that he wouldn't consider another job if they wait.
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Micah Richardson
Yeah, I totally agree. I think it's hard isn't it because everyone's making the decisions and you've got to get the decision right for the players and there's so much money involved with everything. So Liverpool what spend what? 400 million?
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Gary Lineker
440 odd wasn't it?
- [33:56]
Micah Richardson
Yeah and you've got these players who've not performed. They can't afford next season to have another season. Like it's just gone. So the next appointment has to be bang on. And they would have been thinking about it for, for months and months and months and then you know we think oh we, we put two and two together. We don't really think oh Xavier Alonso. But then we do their research from six months before. They know exactly what they want but they need to get it right and that is the key. You mentioned Iriola. The only thing I would say with areola I even said towards the end of the season he could be managing a team that's challenging for, for the Premier League league but he's not managed top top players. So it is a little bit of a risk in terms of that. But his style of play, yeah, he's definitely got it. He's amazing. Very aggressive, high press, not afraid to play youngsters, takes risks. All the things that Liverpool are yearning out for, I would say.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, I don't think there's a non risk appointment. I think whoever yours, there's always a question question. Unless you could get someone like Pep or Luis Enrique, I might suggest. What a guy, what a guy, what a coach.
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Micah Richardson
He's my favorite coach after Pep.
- [35:11]
Gary Lineker
Oh, he's unbelievably good.
- [35:12]
Micah Richardson
I just love the way he talks and even give a little reference to Pep like he was the one who the taking all their bits and pieces in terms of style from and all that. And he's won, he's won the Champions League in Barcelona. He's won it twice with psg but. But he's still giving the praise to Pep. Just shows you what sort of human he is, what a top coach and he's a really nice guy also I had a little chat of him at the side of the pitch and he gave us a little bit of a stick last season because Jamie Caddigger went to Dortmund and he had a Dortmund scarf on and after the game Dortmund must have won the game and he was supposed to come and say I'd have a few words of his on cbs and then he seen Jamie with a scarf on it and he just walked and every time after that that he didn't speak to us. So Jamie had to go last week groveling the smoke a little bit and then at the final I was delighted for him.
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Gary Lineker
I was in Ibiza this week. I saw Jamie at a restaurant.
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Micah Richardson
That's. Oh yes, Jamie, that's who saw you.
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, yeah. Oh right, of course, yeah. Jamie Carragher was there. There was a few out there because obviously Mbappe was there and I had a little chat with Virgil Van Dyke who was also there because I think most of the tourists teams that are playing in the World cup have given their players a week off obviously. Unfortunately if Virgil was pre the slot announcement otherwise I'd have asked him his opinion. Not that he would have given it probably, but, but, but there you go. So. But Jamie Carrigan was out there beat. I, I can tell you now if Lewis. Enrique, if you're listening, Jamie wasn't wearing A Dortmund scarf. But then it was about 28 degrees, so you wouldn't. You wouldn't. He didn't need a scarf at all. Would you go with the Rollo?
- [36:54]
Micah Richardson
If I was Liverpool fans, I know it's totally left field.
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Gary Lineker
Or Glassner maybe.
- [37:00]
Micah Richardson
No, no, I would go with. And it's not going to happen because he loves Atletico. But I think Simeone would be a perfect.
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Gary Lineker
What for Liverpool.
- [37:09]
Micah Richardson
Imagine him on the side with all the Anfield behind him. It'd be like. It'd be like going to battle every single game. He would get the best out of the players. Yes. It might not be the sty that everyone wants, but in terms of that fact, that figure, Passion, Passion, desire, everything. Oh, it'd be great. I'd love to see him in the Premier League. But that's wishful thinking. In terms of Iriola, I would give him a yes because I feel he suits the style of play of what Liverpool need. The only thing I'm looking at tactically, he likes to play with two sort of up front. He was playing with. It was like a 2, but then changed into a 3 at times. We had. Right, didn't he? He was playing up front, but on the wing. And then he had Croupy and Evan Nilsson too. But he plays with high energy. What does that mean for someone like Wirt if he gets the job? Because he's really, really good technique. But in terms of getting up and down, it's just managing the squad and the demands that he wants from his
- [38:13]
Gary Lineker
players and dealing with bigger egos than he dealt with before, which is. You know, it's just. It's interesting. I saw that Xiao Fabi Alonso is now managing Chelsea Iriola. If he gets the Liverpool job. That'd be Liverpool. Chelsea. Arteta is at Arsenal and those three played in this small youth team in the Basque area. All played for the same little youth football club for a number of years.
- [38:37]
Micah Richardson
Did you see it?
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Gary Lineker
I think it was those three, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah. It's incredible. They do seem to find them in the Basque Country a little bit. We must say. Congratulations. I think we're did it before on Aston Villa. Great performance for them in the final. Really was. I mean, talking about good managers who know Emery.
- [38:54]
Micah Richardson
Mesmerizing. He's another one.
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Gary Lineker
Absolutely.
- [38:58]
Micah Richardson
You know what? In terms of manager of the year, I don't know if he got nominated, but to finish in a Champions League position and then you win Europa. Do you know how hard that is to do when they've not been able to bring in as much players as they wanted as well. And the injuries that they've had and they're not winning a game was it for the first five games of the season. It's just how he's turned it around at that club is just amazing. It's incredible. We use the word incredible a lot, guys. But the turnaround from when I was there, when they've been relegated to getting back into the Premier League, to nearly going out of business, so they're now consistently fighting for trophies and playing good football and we use a lot of
- [39:42]
Gary Lineker
words regularly, Mike, and we do podcast three times a week. It's almost impressive. Impossible. It's almost impossible not to. It really is. I, I just wonder whether, you know, it'll be difficult for Villa to keep hold of him. I wonder, you know, if, if one of the giants might go for him at some point.
- [39:59]
Micah Richardson
No, I think he'll stay. The reason why, I think that because he's got full control. So he. That is different. You know, the bigger clubs, we've seen it with Real Madrid, we've seen it at the. They've not got no control. He controls absolutely everything in a good way. You know, players, style of play. He handled the media well. I, I just feel it's a great fit for him.
- [40:21]
Gary Lineker
Yeah. Crystal palace, what a. What a 12 months win. Their first ever trophy in their long, long, long, long history. And then to win a European. And there's quite a nice irony I think as well. I mean there's anti Forest, but the way that they, they, they were turfed out the Europa League to play in the conf Conference, Forest went out of the conference to play in the Europa League and, and then obviously Forest didn't quite make it to the final and then palace win it and now go into the Europa League because of that victory. I mean, obviously I've said on this pod many times that Steve Parish is a good friend. Absolutely delighted for him. I think given obviously the scale of the club and the size of the stadium and the funding. I think it's amazing that they've just stayed in the Premier League for so long in the mid table, let alone win a couple of trophies.
- [41:14]
Micah Richardson
You know, the interesting thing for me with palace is the manager comes out and says he wants to leave. He moans that he's not getting the players. Mateta is left out because he wanted to go to AC Milan and then he had to rekindle that relationship and then he goes and scores a goal in the fight.
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Gary Lineker
Mental. Yeah.
- [41:35]
Micah Richardson
How has it managed to do that and keep everything under control while having all that chaos and noise in the background. Just shows you what a good coach he is.
- [41:44]
Gary Lineker
Yeah, he really is. I'd be interested to see where he goes.
- [41:47]
Micah Richardson
There's not that many jobs up for grabs though, you know. Top ones. Yeah, you know for what? Because Premier League is so massive now, isn't it? In terms of before it was when you come to the Premier League top eight club scene, but now any job in the Premier League is massive because of. Of the amount of wealth in the Premier League now and the players you can get access to, especially through a London club as well.
- [42:12]
Gary Lineker
He's going to attract attention though, because, I mean, he wins trophies. Yeah, he wins trophies and he's not winning, you know, he's not doing it with, you know, a giant of a football club.
- [42:23]
Micah Richardson
Yeah, he won the Europa League with Frankfurt, didn't he?
- [42:25]
Gary Lineker
Yeah. And then he, you know, he comes to palace, wins their first ever trophy. Now he's done this. It's a shame really. They. He can't lead them into next season or he doesn't want to lead them into next season. He wants, you know, pastures new. But I think he'll always be remembered very, very fondly, I would have thought, by palace fans.
- [42:40]
Micah Richardson
Two trophies in two years. What more do you want?
- [42:45]
Gary Lineker
You know, it's like it's never enough for football fans. It's never enough for us football fans. Okay, Micah, let's. Let's call it a day. Now the next time it's not. There'll be. There'll be another episode going out. But before that I certainly with. I did a really interesting and quite poignant interview with Terry Butcher.
- [43:04]
Micah Richardson
Oh, Butcher.
- [43:06]
Gary Lineker
He's got a film coming out in a few weeks time, so that'll go out before the World cup. And he's a great guy. I love Terry Butcher. Yeah.
- [43:14]
Micah Richardson
Is he?
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Gary Lineker
Yeah, lovely, lovely. Intelligent, smart. Also fairly vicious when he played.
- [43:19]
Micah Richardson
So I call him the Butcher because he used to hack people down. Is that.
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Gary Lineker
No, they called him the Butcher because he's surname's Butcher. Oh,
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Micah Richardson
I thought.
- [43:29]
Gary Lineker
No, the documentary is called strangely Butcher.
- [43:33]
Micah Richardson
Just the Butcher.
- [43:33]
Gary Lineker
I thought, I thought.
- [43:34]
Micah Richardson
Well, obviously called Butcher. But I mean, I thought that would have. Was another meaning to it.
- [43:39]
Gary Lineker
Well, he was a bit of a butcher at times, to be perfectly honest. But you know. But obviously I don't think he changed his name when he. But, but yeah, but I think people enjoy that. But the next time we talk will be in the Big Apple for Netflix, baby.
- [44:02]
Micah Richardson
Hey guys. I didn't borrow from your savior.
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Gary Lineker
Netflix, baby.
- [44:06]
Micah Richardson
Yeah, now we're cooking.
- [44:09]
Gary Lineker
Yeah, we're cooking. Okay, for now. Goodbye from me.
- [44:13]
Micah Richardson
And goodbye from me. Have a great week, Sam.