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Tom Holland (0:32)
Hello, everyone. Tom Holland here. And I am joined by the great Laura Cumming. And we are looking at Painting in History, four paintings that reflect a particular period in history. We'll be looking at the history of the painting itself, the life of the artist, and teasing out the mysteries that shadow all four paintings. And today we are looking at Las Meninas by Diego de la Velazquez, the painting that Laura Cumming, who has joined me, she sees it as the greatest painting of all time. And we will be exploring why. Hello, everybody, and welcome to the second in our series on great paintings and how they relate to the historical context and all of that. And my guest today, as it was in our first episode, the previous episode, the great Laura Cumming. And Laura, today we are looking at a painting that is very close to your heart. It is Las Meninas. So that is Maidservants, Ladies in Waiting, whatever, by Diego de Velazquez, the great 17th century Spanish painter, Las Meninas, painted in 1656. And it's close to you both because you think it is what, the greatest painting.
Laura Cumming (1:58)
The greatest.
Tom Holland (1:58)
The greatest painting of all time? The greatest, yes. But also, it's personal to you, isn't it?
Laura Cumming (2:03)
It is. And I saw it without knowing I was going to see it, which is really how anyone listening to this program, if they can possibly go and just get this same experience I had. My father had died, he was a painter. And I was absolutely dejected. And I went to Madrid and I had no idea what the Prado had in it. I mean, I was very young and I went to the room where it hangs in the Prado, and I didn't see it at first. There was a crowd in front of it. There's a crowd in this painting. And the crowd started to move and for a very brief moment, and this kind of illusion of magic is part of the painting. For a very brief moment, I thought the people in the painting were real people. And I wrote a little account of how it struck me, which if you. You will allow me, I will.
Tom Holland (2:53)
And also it will tell people who've never seen the painting what is in the painting?
