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Alistair Campbell
Welcome to the rest is politics us. Anthony is doing kind of like push ups and workouts and wake up routines because it is six in the morning. I am sorry Anthony. Okay, flight to catch, so we're going early. But I like the T shirt.
Anthony Scaramucci
If you can't see my T shirt, nobody cares. Work harder. That's what my T shirt says this morning. Caddy.
Alistair Campbell
Okay, this is the T shirt that you have just given to your poor children. There you go. I have yes, good Italian American attitude to life.
Anthony Scaramucci
No victim mentality in the Scaramucci house. Get up, let's get to work. What are we talking about today?
Alistair Campbell
Okay, so on Monday we spoke about Trump's surprise true social post. He had implemented this pause in bombing Iranian power plants. The markets have responded pretty well to that. But we have a little bit of a kind of he said, she said situation continuing this week because Trump announced yesterday from the White House that there is a 15 point plan that has been put on the table. He's also said that the Iranians have given America a gift. He likes gifts. We know this. The Swiss gave him a gold Rolex. Tim Cook gave him like a gold bar or something. Anyway, bring a gift. He likes gifts in the White House, apparently the Iranians have given him a gift. The speculation is that it might be a tanker full of oil that's been allowed to get through the Straits of Hormuz, but we don't know. He wouldn't elaborate. So we're going to talk about the latest on the war. There's also some very good new polling numbers which I think are interesting, which are worth us discussing, which might account for the fact that Donald Trump is now represented in the state of Florida by a Democrat because she won an election, a state elect, statewide election, last night, night in his district. So all of the politics of this meshing together. We're going to talk about a few trades that have raised eyebrows before his negotiation announcement on the betting markets, who knew what and when. So let's get the latest on what's happening on Iran. Antony, where are we? We're in this, it's an odd moment because we're in this pause phase, but clearly the bombing is continuing. The Iranians are still hitting Israel. The Iranians are still being attacked. And yet Donald Trump says there are negotiations possibly as early as Thursday through an intermediary, the Pakistanis. It looks like there are reports that the Iranians only want to deal with J.D. vance. They don't want Jared Kushner, they don't want Steve Witkoff. But it's not actually been confirmed that there are direct negotiations happening yet at all. And according to some of the intermediaries in the region, the two sides are still very far apart. Whether you can get to summit status from Monday to Thursday seems to me like a big stretch. After a couple of diplomats that I've spoken to say that is a very quick amount of time to try to get to the point where you have both sides actually talking to each other. So are you still thinking on Monday, you and I were still thinking that this situation escalates in Iran and we do have now thousands more troops moving to the area on top of the Marines that we told you about on Monday. So if you do signal and noise what he says and not what he does everything that he is doing. All of the signal is pointing towards escalation with these troops moving there. And yet he is saying, I think to calm the markets, we are in a position where we may be holding some kind of a negotiation summit as early as Thursday. So where do you think we are?
Anthony Scaramucci
Well, he could be trading the markets as opposed to calming the markets. But a couple of things, quick reactions, very bad for J.D. vance with Donald Trump. That notion that he's going to be the guy, the point person, because everyone knows Vance did not want to do this. That's going to hurt him politically with Trump. Vance, you know, this has put out rumors that he may not run. His wife is pregnant. I think he's looking at the landscape here. He's saying, wow, I'm a young guy, might be too close to Donald Trump here if I try in 2028. So we'll see what happens to Vance. But I want to go to something, Katty, that I am trying to analyze and I need your thoughts on. And that is the Mosai Doctrine, which is the doctrine of defense for the Iranians. And so what they did was they broke the RGC up into 31 semi autonomous units. And so if there was a decapitation strategy that came in from the Mossad or from the United States, they could still function. And that's exactly what's happened here. And so these 31 semi autonomous units are all operating in survival mode. And this is something the Iranians developed watching the Americans in Iraq, watching the Americans and the British in the Qatafi situation in Libya. And I guess my question to you is this has kept the regime going. And it makes me think that the Israelis and the Americans are now shifting their strategy, that, okay, these guys hardened up in a way that we did not fully anticipate. Do I have that wrong, Katty? And if I do, tell me why.
Alistair Campbell
No, I think there has been a realization that America's understanding of how much Iran had prepared for this, both militarily and politically, was flawed, that they didn't realize the degree of planning for this situation and they didn't realize the degree to which the political structure, as you say, the leadership structure had been fragmented in order to plan for this situation. And I know there's been a lot of focus on some of the individuals. I'm told that actually you've still basically got incredibly hardline people who are appointed by Moshtabah Khamenei, which suggests that he is still injured, though he is. He is still actually running the show. And it's his chosen people who are now in positions of importance in the country. And there isn't a sign that America has got any closer to a situation where this is going to topple. Now, the Israelis. I think this is one of the areas where the Israelis and the Americans are diverging. We mentioned this a little bit earlier this week where Israel would still like regime change. You're not hearing when Donald Trump spoke yesterday at the White House and when he's put out his statements recently, he has not mentioned regime change for a few weeks now. So I think the Americans are realizing that they're going to have to deal with who they've got. I mean, he's using this weird language from the White House last night that's very confused about, well, you know, we'll try out the people who are there, but if we don't like them, they'll have to go. We'll deal with somebody else. I mean, I don't think this is in America's hands anymore. And there is a realization in the American intel community, and I'm sure around Donald Trump, although Donald Trump is not necessarily accepting this, that America is not necessarily in control of this process, either in the short term about when the Straits reopen or when the negotiations happen, or, or in the longer term in the sense of who's the regime that's controlling Iran. So I think you're right. I think this fragmentation is part of that.
Anthony Scaramucci
Can I just. I want to add this sentence to what you just said about their divergence. So the Israelis know the Mosaic doctrine. They, they know Iran better than anybody's. That's why they went and tried to kill everybody. Their idea was, let's just kill everybody. We'll decapitate all 31 structures. We'll knock them to the ground in this sort of lightning strike. But it didn't work because it's way deeper and it's way more entrenched.
Alistair Campbell
The levels are deeper.
Anthony Scaramucci
And so you kill the two guys at the top. Guess what, the next guy's ready to come in.
Alistair Campbell
Can I just add one thing I've heard from intelligence people in the States?
Anthony Scaramucci
Please.
Alistair Campbell
They thought the levels initially went three, four levels. I think there's now an understanding that it's potentially seven or eight levels. In fact, they don't even really know how many levels deep this mosaic structure goes.
Anthony Scaramucci
Okay, so this is apropos. So now we've done this decentralized command structure because we got to stay in power. We can't be Gaddafi, okay? So we got to stay in power. So many different reasons why we're making a lot of money for our families. And you know, the. We've got this whole fanaticism that we like talking about. So we're going to stay in power. Right. You've got to follow the money. Remember, ISIS was Republican Guard from the Iraqis that formed a black market oil company. And then they were waving the flag of Islamic fundamentalism. But ultimately it was because Bremer and Wolfowitz and, you know, they decided to let it go. They let Rumsfeld said, you know, we could have paid the Iraqi Republican Guard $100 million in 2003 to be the police keeping force for the Americans. And Bremer and Rumsfeld, those guys said, no, disband them. They turned themselves into isis. You gotta follow the money. You gotta always follow the money. These people want to stay in power because of the money. Let's not kid ourselves. Okay? Second thing they did I want you to respond to is they studied Vietnam and they studied the Iraqi war. And he said, okay, the Americans are set up for a cold war military. And we're gonna come in with $20,000 drones, $30,000 drones. They're gonna shoot $13 million anti ballistic missiles at them, and we're gonna deplete them. It's gonna take them years to replace this stuff. And we can manufacture this stuff. We use a Stalin word, right? We can manufacture the missiles like sausages. Remember Khrushchev and Stalin used to say that. So they're pumping out the drones, they're throwing them at the Americans. The Americans and the Israelis are shooting them out of the sky at a 20 to 1 expense ratio. Okay? So I want you to comment on that. The Iranians recognize that they cannot win the war against the Israelis. And the Americans, they don't have the military might, but what they do have is a guerrilla strategy to hold on and they can choke the global economy through the Strait of Hormuz.
Alistair Campbell
Yeah. There are different views of what winning means. Right. So for the Israelis, winning would mean a different regime in Iran. For the Iranians, winning means just holding on. Every day that the Iranians continue this war is effectively a victory for them as they see it. And we may not define that as victory, but in terms of the Iranian government, that's how they see it. And the key to that is disrupting the global economy and through the Straits of Hormuz. By keeping the Straits of Hormuz shut or dangerous enough that people that tankers think it's shut and insurers don't want to ensure boats to go through the Straits of Hormuz because you never know what's going to happen. And what's the interesting part of this is what does victory look like for Donald Trump? Because that's the unknown quantity in this. In a sense, we know what the Israelis want. We know what the Iranians want. The Iranians want just to prolong this. And they are a believing, theocratic regime. There are not, as we keep hearing, there are not. Delsey Rodriguez figures in Iran at the moment, the leadership structures who are there, who are functionaries, but who don't believe in this. It seems that they are believers still, even at the levels they've gone down to. So they don't need to win in the sense that and I think this has also been a misunderstanding. This reminds me a little bit of 2003 when the Americans went in and thought, we can go and do a big blast. It'll be very quick and it'll all be over. And George W. Bush stood on the aircraft carrier and said mission accomplished, only to realize there were a whole load of people who were in Iraq who were going to prepare to carry on fighting. And the missing piece of this, the mystery in all of this, is what does winning look like for Donald J. Trump right now as we speak about this heading into four weeks?
Anthony Scaramucci
All right, so now I have to channel his brain.
Alistair Campbell
Okay, go back in there.
Anthony Scaramucci
All right, so I'm going to tell you what he's doing right now. Okay. At 11:30, 11:00 clock at night, he lives alone in a 132 room mansion with a group of servants. And he gets on the phone and he's calling Sean Hannity and he's calling Pete Hegseth and he's calling Howard Lutnick. But he's also calling buddies of his in New York and buddies of his around the world that he's got a donor list. And he's on the phone with business executives. And the general consensus from the business executives is finish the job. In fact, Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock, said yesterday this was a very tell comment by Larry Fink. And I'm just going to read you the comment. Ready years of above $100 per barrel or closer to $150 per barrel will have profound implications in the economy. And Fink was making the point at an investor event yesterday or even in his investor letter. He has his annual letter that he just published. You can't allow the Iranians to hold the Strait of Hormuz hostage on the global economy. And you just mentioned it, Caddy, the insurance premiums are gonna go up. The higher risk go through the straight and all of a sudden if oil prices go from the 50s and 60s where they were three weeks ago to the 150s, we're in a full on global recession and that'll have a very deep impact on the world. And so guys like Larry Fink are telling the president finish the job and you see the troops are moving. So I would like to tell you that this is de escalating and I really hope it does. And I hope that we get to a peace deal where we can control the strait with the international cooperation. And if that happens, God bless and let's give J.D. vance the Nobel Peace Prize. But it doesn't feel like it's going to happen to me based on what I know the influences are on Donald Trump.
Alistair Campbell
One other concern that I've heard from business leaders and I was thinking listening to former FBI Director Christopher Wray who's down here at this event in Florida that I was at yesterday and he said something super interesting to these people, which is that in the context of Iran, he was laying out cyber threats. The Iranian cyber capability is much more sophisticated than people are aware of and that their ability to penetrate U.S. companies is more developed than American companies have been aware of. And one of the things that people were chatting here about in response to the former FBI director's remarks is there's been talk about terrorist cells that the Iranians have. And it's been something that has not happened yet. We've not seen the Iranians respond, thank God, with acts of terrorism around the world. It is kind of has been their MO in the past. And one intelligence operative official in the UK actually had said to me, look, just wait, that's the long term play. We haven't got there yet. It doesn't mean it's not going to happen. But I think there is another side to that threat assessment, which is the immediate threat, which is the gas prices. There's the longer term concerned about sleeper cells. But companies are going to start focusing on what capabilities the Iranians still have in the cyber realm because of course that would be hugely disruptive to them as well. Can I just say we're going to talk about this polymarkets trade, which I think is super interesting and I wanted to get your sense of that. I spoke to an economist last night in the field who said something very fishy is going on, but can I just channel Anthony Scaramucci and give You a quick list. Donald Trump has had a bad week. Five things have gone badly wrong for him just in the last couple of days. The prosecutor in the case against Jerome Powell has admitted that they don't have any evidence of misconduct. He's done this taco on the straights. And even if he likes to say it's not a taco, everybody is seeing it as a taco that he gave a deadline. People in the White House said, Please, Mr. President, don't give ultimatums. And then he's forced to row back again because the markets go crazy. Joe Kent, the former intelligence official who resigned very publicly, who has a whole load of dubious background of his own, and it's A full on 2020 election denial guy, but is saying very publicly to everybody who will listen that there was no justification for the war in Iran because Iran didn't pose imminent threat. The White House doesn't like that. Last night in Florida, Donald Trump has a new member of his state Senate, Democrat Emily Gregory. There was a 13 point swing. We spoke about that special state House election in Texas a few weeks ago. The same thing happened in Florida last night. You had a 13 point swing away from Republicans to a Democrat right on Donald Trump's doorstep. And a Reuters poll came out that was completed on Monday showing that he has the lowest approval rating that Reuters has recorded of 36%. And the approval for his handling of the economy amongst all Americans, not just Democrats, is down to 29%. And approval for the war is falling. So I think if you put that together, I think Donald Trump's brain must be feeling a little frazzled. He must be out there saying, guys, give me the good news. Because there's a lot of little bits of bad news coming in around the country that tie what's happening in Iran to what's happening in the White House to what's happening in the polls and on the judicial front, he's not having good success either. Does that sound fair?
Anthony Scaramucci
It's a brilliant rendition of what's going on. But I again have said on this show he sort of doesn't care. I've got 36 months to go, I gotta make $100 billion. I gotta figure that out. We're gonna trade the oil markets, we'll trade crypto, we'll see what gifts we can get from the Gulf states or other countries. And we're gonna work super hard on that because I actually don't care. And if the Republicans lose coming up, doesn't matter to me, I'm gonna probably pardon myself. On the way out. And all my family members, you know,
Alistair Campbell
I get impeached, I get convicted.
Anthony Scaramucci
Yeah, no problem. I just gotta pardon myself. And by the way, Corey Lewandowsk said, hey, something goes wrong here for me, the, the big boss is going to pardon me. So I think the Republicans are. Wake up, Republicans. He doesn't care about you guys. He's laughing at the fact that he lost the election next door in Mar a Lago, in that district. He doesn't really care. But, Katie, that's the problem for the Republicans, not for Trump, in my opinion, because Trump knows I'm 80 on my way to 83 on the way out of here. And let's see how much money I can rake in. This will be a lot of fun. I'm going to put up a lot of gold statues of myself in Washington before I leave and hopefully a big beautiful ballroom. And I'm going to shove myself up the yin yang, because I like the word yin yang. Now. I got a lot of good feedback on yin yang. I'm going to shove myself up the yin yang of the establishment, the Washington D.C. establishment. But, Kenny, just quickly on the 15 points, we don't know exactly what all 15 points are, but it's been reported with some of them are they want the nuclear capabilities gone, the missiles gone, etc. They basically want to dismantle the clerical power inside of Iran. So those points are going to be unacceptable to the regime. Remember to stay around. You don't give up your weapons of mass destruction. When Gaddafi gave up his weapons of mass destruction, bye bye. When Bill Clinton had the chance to stop the North Koreans from getting weapons of mass destruction, they continued. And now the, you know, the guy's stolen power. So to me, I think accepting these 15 points, extremely low. Fight on and survive the war, I think that's much higher. And I just want to say to people that are really thinking this through, and I want to. And again, I want to be fair to everybody. The Wall Street Journal had a great article. Looks like this is a way more dangerous, thuggish regime. The Journal said it better than me. The Journal basically said, this is a harder war for us. But guess what? It may be a little bit more necessary than all of us want to believe in terms of the absolute threat. So I'll finish by saying this. United States, the Gulf States, the European allies, you gotta clear the strait and you gotta make sure that there's an international cooperation on the strait to prevent the attack on those oil tankers. Otherwise, we're heading for a global recession.
Alistair Campbell
Okay, let's take a break and come back and talk about somebody who seems to have been making a lot of money out of this already.
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Alistair Campbell
Welcome back, everybody. Anthony, it's clear that something is happening on the betting markets. Somebody is making a lot of money. The poly markets are anonymous. We don't know who it is. We don't know if it's just somebody who is watching tanker movements, troop movements and putting two and two together and realizing things are changing. But somebody placed a bet just before Donald Trump announced that he was pausing his 48 hour deadline to attack Iranian energy facilities. And they made a ton of money, close to a billion dollars. What's going on? I spoke to one economist who said there's no way that this was just somebody working from open sources. This is somebody who had a tip off.
Anthony Scaramucci
Okay, so go back to Liberation Day on April 2nd. The guys are getting short the market. They know it's gonna be very disruptive. You know, he's coming down from Mount Evil with the orange tablets and we know it's gonna be he's orange Moses infecting evil on the global economy. They make money. A week later he says, oh, we're gonna have a pause on the tariffs. They get long, they make money. October 10th, he puts out a tweet related to rare earth minerals. He says he's gonna be in a big fight with China over rare earth minerals. The market gets crushed, crypto gets crushed. Guess what? Unusual activity. And there's a whole tens of millions, hundreds of millions of dollars are being made. And now, five minutes, Cattie, because here's the problem with the markets now, because of all the technology, we can track the stuff. Five minutes, Caddy, they put one and a half billion dollars of futures contracts on the market and oil, they get short oil co temporaneously and then five minutes later, he puts out the all cap tweets with the W I T C H. And these guys are raking in the money. And, you know, it's so bad that the sec, the woman that was, you know, set up to investigate all this stuff from the sec, she complained about it, nobody listened to her, and she just left. Her name is Margaret Ryan. You can look her up. She was the enforcement director at the securities Exchange Commission, and she left last week. She was clashing with agency leadership over wanting direct investigations into the administration. And again, not just the Trump family. We're talking about family members of the people that are in the know.
Alistair Campbell
So you've been in the White House, Anthony, how close? You say it's not just Trump family members. How close would you have to be? I mean, how does this work? Talk me through how it works. Because these decisions are made, as we know, with Donald Trump pretty last minute. The national security structure has been really flattened since he's been in the White House. We understand that it is him making the decisions with one or two people around him. It really is a pretty tight circle because he's done away with so much of the expertise because he doesn't trust them. So how does it get out from him thinking and he changes his mind so quickly that you don't necessarily know when he's going to put that tweet out with a lot of warning and a lot of distribution and a lot of input from White House functionaries. So somehow somebody has to get that information from Donald Trump's brain in order to make that trade five minutes beforehand. How do they get the information? And how many people would have access to that information?
Anthony Scaramucci
So it's such a good question. Trump has had around him a coterie of people for the last 40 years that get a tiny piece of of everything he's doing. You want to have a Trump board game? Great. You guys do it. Take a tiny piece of it. You want to have Trump vodka, Trump water, Trump steaks. You take a piece of it. These very same guys got involved with the Trump meme coin. They took a piece of it. And so he has a group of people around him, and he's happy to
Alistair Campbell
let them make money, so long as they don't make too much money.
Anthony Scaramucci
They've got to make money alongside of him, because, remember, he doesn't have the attention span to do it himself. And he's a little busy being president. But you, You. You do it. And then I get my cut. You get your cut. If you remember, Politico had a story where he's down in Mar a Lago, he's super pissed off at Lutnick. He's saying, your two boys are running Cantor, Fitzgerald. Where's my cut? Okay. If you remember that story, I mean, that was there, right? So. So he has a small group of people he's working with, and he says, okay, you know, we're gonna. You ready? You got the trade on? Yeah.
Alistair Campbell
Go.
Anthony Scaramucci
Yeah. Okay, great. Let's put the tweet out. Now, Caddy, here's the problem with everything that I just said, because there's lots of layers to this. The Congress is making money off of defense stocks. So the Congress gets a look at the appropriations, and before the appropriations come public, they go long or short. Defense stocks, the Congress.
Alistair Campbell
And you actually have some people in the Democratic field who are running for president, people like Rahm Emanuel, who's saying, we really need to tighten this up. We shouldn't have government employees being able to trade the polymarkets. We shouldn't have members of Congress being able to make stock trades. There is talk about. I mean, it's become a story now here.
Anthony Scaramucci
I don't want to get the gun off the bird of Donald Trump, but just hear me for a second, okay? Democratic Representative Kelly Morrison, she bought stock in Saronic Technologies. It's an autonomous warship company. Do I know what it is? No. I'm on Wall street for 40 years. Nine days after the beginning of the war with Iran, right as the Navy was awarding Saronic contracts, her office said her portfolio is managed by an investment advisor and she had no prior knowledge. Okay? Government watchdog groups called it a pretty clear conflict of interest. Caddy. The problem is they're all doing it. Caddy. Now, what Trump is doing with his buddies is exponential. Okay, so now maybe the exponential crazy of Donald Trump, which has got Senator Chris Murphy alarmed, and all these other guys, maybe they'll say, okay, well, wait a minute. Guys, pay these guys more. Caddy. They're making $180,000 a year. They can't afford to live in Washington, so they're day trading their personal accounts using insider information. And they're legally allowed to do it. You know it and I know it.
Alistair Campbell
And you wonder why Congress has such low approval ratings and people think of pox on both their houses. They never fix anything for us. They just make money for themselves.
Anthony Scaramucci
But Caddy here is the big problem, okay? It has to do with the way people think about their government and the way they think about their society. Okay? The eight year old version of me in 1972, I'm looking up thinking, hey, man, I'm gonna make it here. I just gotta do the work, go to college, get a great white collar job. I'm not gonna be a blue collar guy like my dad. I'm gonna make it in this country. I'm not saying there wasn't corruption in the 1970s and corruption, of course there was. But this is so crazy and it's so out there. Katty, look at me now. You're looking up and you're like, okay, wait a minute, this is rigged. I'm not gonna be able to make it. That's how they feel in Russia. That's how they feel in these other countries where the elites are at the top funneling and grifting off the top of the system. You gotta break the stronghold of this, okay? And I'm going after Trump on this, certainly. But it's not just Trump, Caddy. It's a bipartisan situation and it's absolutely disgusting. It's absolutely disgraceful. But the flip side is they don't make enough money. So be like Singapore, pay them more money, okay? So that they do the job without this sort of nonsense going on.
Alistair Campbell
So your T shirt, Nobody cares. Work harder in the current environment, just scratch out the work harder. Nobody cares. Because if you are an American, you're looking at this thinking, I'm gonna work hard. I'm gonna play by the rules. That is gonna get me to where I want to go. And meanwhile, you see people in Congress, you see people in the White House, you see anonymous people on the polymarkets making a huge amount of money out of inside information that they may or may not have had from the President or from the trades that they're doing in Congress or from the laws that they're doing in Congress. But it's, I think it is starting to get political traction. You do start to hear people say, this is not acceptable. You have Rahm Emanuel saying, you've got fellow Americans putting their lives on the line. You've got somebody else sitting in his or her basement placing bets on it. That kind of thing doesn't go down well with a lot of voters. So I think you're gonna start seeing a push to try and get this regulated in some way. It comes from a system that is tolerating this. And when you have it from the top down, of course you're gonna allow more permissive structures for people lower down their echelons in government or in Congress to try and do the same thing. I don't think Rahm Emanuel's gonna get elected, by the way, but he's saying some pretty good stuff on this nice guy, Rahm.
Anthony Scaramucci
I don't think he gets elected, but let me play the congressman for a second. You know, Katty, I hear you, but I don't care. Catty, let me tell you what happens to me. The big money comes in because of Citizen United from big business, big defense, big pharma. And I do their bidding here in the Congress. You know why? Because I get to go on these junkets and I get to do all this fun stuff for myself and I trade my portfolio on this. And, oh, by the way, you think I really care about the little people? I don't, Katty, because I've gerrymandered my district in a way where I can stay in power. The Congress has a 14% approval rating, which is slightly above Kim L. Jong, the North Korean dictator. But it doesn't matter to me, Caddy, because I have a 95% incumbency reelection rate. So, yeah, go ahead, pooh, pooh. You guys talk about the reform while I trade the markets, okay? And that is how cynical it actually is. And so Trump is like, hey, man, let me take this to the ninth level. You know, like, I think Hunter and I always call him Hunter Picasso Biden. I think he sold a painting for like $5 million or something like that. It was like, to use a Trumpian word, that's peanuts, catty K. We can make billions here if we. If we. If we. If we organize my tweets properly, we can make billions. Peanuts, Catty K. He should have been
Alistair Campbell
asking charisma for a hell of a lot more money to be able to play in this kind of league. We speak about this, by the way, everybody, if you would like to hear more about Trump and the money machine and money machine around the Trump family and some of the things that Anthony and I have just kind of hair raising things that we have both heard, you can sign up@therestispoliticsus.com to become a founding member. We're talking about it on our bonus episode this week. Looking at the Trump money machine. We are going to leave it there. There'll be lots more to talk about next week and we'll be back on Monday. Hope you have all have a great weekend. Hope I make my flight and I'm not standing in a TSAQ for the next three hours. Anthony, I'll let you know how it goes.
Anthony Scaramucci
Well, I wish you a safe flight. And caddy, after telling you all this stuff about the insider trading I want you to stay with me here at Goal hanger, okay? I know it's very lucrative that you could move into the Trump administration but don't do it Katty. I know the temptation is there. Don't do it Katty.
Alistair Campbell
Don't sell your soul. Okay guys, see you soon. Thanks for listening.
Anthony Scaramucci
Thanks guys. Seguramente estas manejando entrenched tip rapido TikTok no e solo entranimiento Ayen quentro consejos practicos para la vida real descarga TikTok Aurora.
The Rest Is Politics: US — Episode 171: “Trump Is Trapped in the Iran War” (March 25, 2026)
Hosts: Anthony Scaramucci & Katty Kay
Guest/Co-host: Alistair Campbell
In this episode, Anthony Scaramucci, Katty Kay, and Alistair Campbell deliver an unvarnished inside look at escalating tensions between the US and Iran during Trump’s presidency. They dissect Trump’s conflicting signals on the war, deep dives into Iran’s revolutionary resilience, the international economic stakes, and mounting evidence of insider trading tied to White House decisions. The conversation offers sharp anecdotes, intelligence assessments, and trenchant commentary on the fusion of politics, money, and global security.
The episode is incisive, irreverent, and sometimes darkly comic, with Scaramucci’s Wall Street candor and Campbell’s journalist rigor. They paint a portrait of American politics as transactional and transactionalism as bipartisan, while portraying Trump as a pragmatic, self-interested dealmaker unconcerned with legacy or party. The situation with Iran is shown as both a test of geopolitical wits and a pressure point for American democracy—where trust, transparency, and the public good seem constantly up for sale.
Essential insight:
The battles over Iran echo throughout Washington, Wall Street, and Main Street, knitting together questions of war, economics, ethics, and democracy itself.
For more deep dives and bonus content on the Trump money machine, visit therestispoliticsus.com.