What’s in your backyard that you haven’t explored yet? And what if you decided to treat your own state like a foreign country? Beth Sobiloff and Marcia Rothwell, the co-hosts of Two Grannies on the Road, have set out to visit all 351 cities and towns in Massachusetts. They’re 121 towns in. Along the way, they’ve met second-act bakers, retired leaders turned magicians, mayors, alpaca farmers, and a man with the world’s largest collection of Back to the Future memorabilia.

In this conversation, Beth and Marcia talk about why their world hasn’t shrunk in retirement, why trying and not liking something is still a win, how to spot the second act that’s already running quietly in the background of your own life, and what a real retirement curriculum might look like.

If you’ve ever caught yourself drifting toward a smaller version of your life, this episode is a friendly nudge in the other direction.

In this episode you’ll learn:

How to discern a second act that’s right for you.
How Beth turned an empty-nest into a 15-year creative project.
Why abandoned hobbies offer clues for new pursuits.
A template for novelty, social connection, and learning that costs almost nothing.
Why presenting what you learn matters as much as learning it.

And here’s are all 351 towns and cities in Massachusetts in minutes

(by two Mass natives and one NY interloper)

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For More on Beth Sobiloff & Marcia Rothman

Two Grannies on the Road – You Tube

Website

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Wise Quotes

On Experimenting

“If you try something and you don’t like it, it’s not a failure. It’s okay. You eliminated one of the things you don’t like as much.”

On the Curricuulm for Retirement

“Go out, experience something, then come back and present it. That’s the curriculum.”

On Inspiring Others

“If you have a relative or a friend who is staying at home and not getting out, make an effort to help them do that.”

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About The Retirement Wisdom Podcast

There are many podcasts on retirement, often hosted by financial advisors with their own financial motives, that cover the money side of the street. This podcast is different. You’ll get smarter about the investment decisions you’ll make about the most important asset you’ll have in retirement: your time.

About Retirement Wisdom

I help people who are retiring, but aren’t quite done yet, discover what’s next and build their custom version of their next life. A meaningful retirement doesn’t just happen by accident.

Schedule a call today to discuss how the Designing Your Life process created by Bill Burnett & Dave Evans can help you make your life in retirement a great one — on your own terms.

About Your Podcast Host

Joe Casey is an executive coach who helps people design their next life after their primary career and create their version of The Multipurpose Retirement.™ He created his own next chapter after a 26-year career at Merrill Lynch, where he was Senior Vice President and Head of HR for Global Markets & Investment Banking.

Joe has earned Master’s degrees from the University of Southern California in Gerontology (at age 60), the University of Pennsylvania, and Middlesex University (UK), a BA in Psychology from the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, and his coaching certification from Columbia University.

In addition to his work with clients, Joe hosts The Retirement Wisdom Podcast, ranked in the top 1% globally in popularity by Listen Notes, with over 2 million downloads. Business Insider recognized Joe as one of 23 innovative coaches who are making a difference. He’s the author of Win the Retirement Game: How to Outsmart the 9 Forces Trying to Steal Your Joy.