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Amy Poehler
Hi everyone, it's Amy Poehler and I'm launching a new podcast called Good Hang. In preparation for that, I asked some of my friends to send in some.
Chris Ryan
Videos and give me some advice.
Amy Poehler
Just be yourself and the guests will come. Don't be the celebrity that this is their like sixth thing they're doing.
Ryan Rosillo
I love true crime and cooking podcasts.
Amy Poehler
Is there any way you could combine the two? Well, everyone has an opinion and a podcast, so join me for Good Hang. It's rough out there, we're just trying.
Chris Ryan
To lighten it up a little.
Amy Poehler
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Ryan Rosillo
I feel like that's done.
Amy Poehler
Okay. No, we're doing Good Will Hunting because we're in Boston. We got this Coolidge corner movie theater. We're doing heist movies in Boston. Movies this weekend, including this one. We did this on the rewatchables first year, we didn't have a lot of the categories yet, so we're doing it again. And for me, I'm gonna do Boston movie Mount Rushmore quickly. I don't know if there's a right answer, but for me, the verdict. Good Will Hunting and the Town have to be in the three, and then I think the four spots. Arguable. Is there anyone that has to be in there for you, Rossella?
Ryan Rosillo
Well, I was gonna yell the Departed, but I don't. I like the Town so much better than the Departed. I'm glad you went that way.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. How about you, Sean?
Sean Fantasy
Celtic Pride and Fever Pitch.
Amy Poehler
Pick one, Chris.
Chris Ryan
I don't have anything cute. It's the Departed. Even though a lot of it is shot in New York, it's still the Departed or Toronto.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. When we did the Departed, we had a lot of thoughts about Nicholson's Boston accent, which was from the Bronx. What part of New York was that accent actually from? I know this is a big thing for me and Priscilla.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
I. Wahlberg, not a close friend, but we were doing promotion for Patriots Day.
Chris Ryan
You guys both love fitness, though. You have a lot in common.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, true.
Ryan Rosillo
I know. He ended. I always love how, like, really big celebrities and interviews in a way that you're like. He's like, hey, man, maybe next time we'll just do it in person. We'll get a workout in. I was like, awesome. And then he closes the zoom. And Cerutty and I are. I'm like, that's never gonna happen. But he had a great rule, because accents would be a big part of this discussion is I said, when you were casting for Patriots Day, what did you tell everybody? And he was like, you have one chance, and then if I don't like it, you're just gonna talk like a normal person. And I think it's a great rule.
Amy Poehler
It's a good rule. But nobody said that to Jack. Yeah. The last 15 years, I feel like we've gotten better at especially, like, movies like Gone Baby, Gone in the Town. They actually Started using locals, so we're doing better.
Chris Ryan
Bill, wasn't it on the Departed pod that we talked about the Combat Zone?
Sean Fantasy
That's where we were all afternoon.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Chris and Sean didn't believe me when I was telling them the Combat zone stories. I had to send them pictures. Sometimes it'll be on Twitter. I'll be like, combat Zone photo. Different times. I mean, this place, it used to be Avalon and Axis. I was more partial to Avalon, which I think you were too. Cr. Right. Access was like a little bit of a different crowd. But yeah, now it's House of Blues. So Good Will Hunting, Damon and Affleck. Let's do the backstory of this. This is Sean, one of the great Hollywood. Out of nowhere. Although it wasn't really out of nowhere because they'd both been in some movies. But one of the great bet on yourself moments ever. Correct.
Sean Fantasy
Probably the greatest since Rocky, Right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Anything else? Those are like the biggest. I was living in Boston when this was happening. Were you here then?
Ryan Rosillo
No, I was still in Vermont.
Amy Poehler
Okay. Because I remember there was an improper Bostonian that came out with those guys on the COVID And they were filming it, I must say. It was 96 or whenever. And it was like these guys, local kids, took them years to get this made. And now they're making it and they're so excited. I was like, oh, man, I hope it works out for. For those wacky kids. Matt Damon and I knew him from School Ties, knew Affleck from Dazed and Confused. Never thought it would work out for them like it did like this. And now this became the thing, Chris, that I think I don't remember a movie propelling two people at the same time like this.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. And I think it's really cool that they still obviously have a place in their hearts for like they're like, it's never going to be like that again. And it's the most special movie I think either of them have ever made to. To themselves. When you read that oral history that was in Boston Magazine, you can tell they still think about this experience.
Amy Poehler
So clearly it's kind of like how we feel about Grantland. Sure.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, that's right.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. They said there's in that oral history. The first day of shooting, they filmed some scene with Skarsgrd and Robin Williams and Damon and Affleck were watching it on the side and they were both bawling, but not sad bawling, just so happy. Cause it was a five year odyssey and the whole backwards of the story was that there's like a year where they're in Davis Square, living there. They'd already spent their money from when they had sold it. It was in turnaround at Castle Rock. They're trying to get it made by anybody. And they're just kind of living in Somerville doing these other parts and movies, not knowing if this movie was ever going to make it. And the biggest fear they had was they were going to age out of the characters. That they were going to hit their late 20s. Now, as we know from Hollywood, it doesn't matter if you age out of the characters. They could have probably been 45 and played this, but. But.
Ryan Rosillo
Well, wasn't one of the other things with Castle Rock that they wanted to be DiCaprio and Pitt?
Amy Poehler
There was a DiCaprio Pitt thing. And then there was a big thing with the script that. The original script, this whole second part of it was a spy caper. And, like, the government's after them and a couple people gave them the note, like, just lose the spy shit, man. Just do the first part. Do the first part of the script of the therapist. And then that became the movie. And then it became unclear who. It seemed like Rob Reiner maybe had that note.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, Goldman had the note, too, but William Goldman. It's still their script, but, yeah, I think the NSA scene towards the end of the movie might be one of the remnants of that spy caper.
Amy Poehler
One of the funniest things with this movie was as Castle Rock is basically just giving them the run around. They get so pissed that these guys are doing that. They write this whole scene where I think Will Hunting gives Lambeau a blowjob. And they just put it in there to see if anyone was reading it. And nobody would mention the scene. And they were like, these fuck guys aren't reading it. And then finally, when Harvey Weinstein read it for Miramax. Complicated character these days.
Ryan Rosillo
He was like, leave that in.
Amy Poehler
Well, yeah. Affleck said he gave two notes. I don't like the chess thing because they had a part where Will Hunting played chess. He's like, get that out, dude.
Ryan Rosillo
What else are you going to be? Awesome.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, you're like a smart guy. And he's like, in the blow jobs, they got to come out and Damon, Apple, Greg, we've got our guy. This is it. He read all the way. And then it became. The big thing was Damon got the Rainmaker, which was a John Grissom book. When those Grissom books made it and they told Harvey and he was like, oh, my God, those movies make 100 billion. And then all of a sudden they're making it. So five year Odyssey for this, do you want to go through some of the elements of a Boston movie? Rossillo, what are you looking for in a Boston movie? What are the essentials? For you?
Ryan Rosillo
I think it would have been other than Blake Lively. Yeah, right. Although with the newest information.
Chris Ryan
Stock up or stock down.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right, right. Does anyone have mint mobile? Like, what the fuck are you texting me from? I think for it to be. Well, I don't know if we're fixing this movie because I think it was pretty good and people liked it, but I think Damon needs to be hammered on that red line, like towards the end, sober to Braintree doesn't. He's gonna wake up like North Station going, what?
Amy Poehler
What? So he slumped over against the metal.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I don't think that's like a. You know, I know he didn't have a car until the end.
Sean Fantasy
Spoiler. I'm so lost right now.
Ryan Rosillo
No, but I just. I really like that train shot. But I don't think. I don't think Will Hunting is sober for that one.
Amy Poehler
Cr, you lived here for five years. What do you need in a Boston movie? What are the essentials?
Chris Ryan
I think this movie captures it. It's the, like, you think you're better than me. It's. It's like all over those four guys and they're constantly fighting against their. Their lot in life and Will's their. Will's their, like, shining star. Who can break out of it.
Amy Poehler
How about you, Fantasy?
Sean Fantasy
I think I should have moved it to New York. I feel like, then get like, really a gritty story, a true story about living in a real city, you know.
Amy Poehler
Oh, my God. Fantasy. Lost the crowd. Jesus. I wrote. I wrote a couple things down that I think all the Boston movies have that worked. They use the city, like, different parts of the city. It's always a staple to get the accents right. You gotta bat at least 90% with the accent.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. I mean, if we want to be real difficult, I think in the Boston Common scene, which is an incredible scene, which I know we'll get to, but Williams has a couple.
Amy Poehler
Williams stumbles with it. He loses the ring, wins the Oscar. Unbelievable performance.
Ryan Rosillo
I'm not saying we should, you know, take it away.
Amy Poehler
The R's kind of come and go. Hauser, I think, knew that he didn't have the accent, so he just kind of. He's more of a mystique charisma part. But I think for the most part, they nailed it another thing. You just have to involve the Red Sox or Fenway somehow. There's an overhead shot of Fenway in this movie for no reason at all. Yeah, but you just have to do it.
Ryan Rosillo
By the way, what about Casey wearing the I hate LA T shirt?
Amy Poehler
Well, that's another one.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. But, like, that had to be a hand me down.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, He. His older brother had it for years.
Chris Ryan
I would love to be there the day they were like, gus, we have to have a drone shot Fenway.
Amy Poehler
And I hate that. I think the bars are crucial. All the best Boston movies, like the Town has that. They filmed an old Sully's. That was great. The bars in this movie, the Elm Street Tavern, like, some of those. The Cambridge ones. And then I think you have to capture it. Just has to feel the essence of people that live here. And I don't even know how to quantify that, but you know what I mean? There's people in this movie that just feel like Boston people that, you know, that somebody from Boston made it. Does that make sense?
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, because I. I think, you know, obviously, the. The thing that's really cool in the Affleck scene with Damon, where he's just like, you know, I'd kill to have what you have, you know, depending on where you're at, especially when you're younger and you're kind of, like, accepting your fate a little bit. I think they did a really good job with not overdoing it. Like, those guys are about every day, getting up, completing the task, beers afterwards, rinse, repeat. And they'd already accepted it, and they didn't do it in a way that, like, you just kind of already knew who they were without having to have, like, extra scenes of those guys doing the same stuff over and over again.
Amy Poehler
Here's two things they miss, Sean. Well, these are things that happen in Boston movies but don't happen in real life. The weather is always awesome in a Boston movie. Nobody is ever cold. It is just early May all the time. And then there's no traffic ever. You just get anywhere you want. The tea is empty at all times. Doesn't matter what time of day. There's always parking spot. Yeah. And the common. You just walk around, grab a bench, nobody's gonna be there. Nobody's walking around. There's no ducks. Those are the four things that we have. Sean, let's talk about 97, one of the great movie years ever. It is where we launch Affleck and Damon. We have Titanic. We launched Leo and Winslet. We have Peak. James Cameron. Jack Nicholson wins the Oscar. Robin Williams wins an Oscar. And it just feels like Boogie Nights is out there. It feels like something's shifting. What's shifting?
Sean Fantasy
That's a great question. I mean, I think it's like the simultaneous moment when movies are still the biggest thing in all of entertainment from the studio perspective. Plus all the Sundance, kind of Tarantino, Paul Thomas Anderson era of guys are starting to get their chance to make big expensive movies. So, like Jackie Brown is this year. Chasing Amy is this year. There's also all that new class of generation combining with Titanic, the biggest fucking movie ever made, which is convenient. LA Confidential is this year. There's a bunch of movies. I'm not really riding for that. As good as it gets. Nicholson win. That's not. We don't.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we're going to litigate that later.
Chris Ryan
It's not when you rewatch.
Sean Fantasy
No.
Chris Ryan
There's also like, even in the credits for this movie, there's Kevin Smith, there's Lawrence Bender. So they're all like these names from that. That indie scene pop up behind the scenes in this one.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, it's like a. It's like when in the NBA when we just have like a class and you're like, oh, man, like Scoot's Class 20. Yeah, like this year's class might be like that with all the guys in the 25 class. Or you have like, in football, you have like the quarterback class. You just look at the guys in 97 range. It's like, oh, man, we were loaded.
Ryan Rosillo
I was listening to you guys. I think when you did the Pulp Fiction stuff and you know the story of this kind of indie film, but you know, obviously, like, once people got involved and it just became this blockbuster, but you can kind of like lose sight of the origin part of it. But I still think, like, we're only a few years removed from that, where people all of a sudden wanted these. These movies that felt smaller scale and like, the budget for this is nothing. But it's funny that it worked as kind of an indie movie, but at the same time, like, you could. You could have seen it cast with all eight. Like, the story just works, so it doesn't feel like you're watching Slacker or something. You were like, okay, did you guys shoot this on vhs? But there was just a demand for all of these years after that run of. I don't. I don't know how it falls in, but it's kind of like a hybrid of those two.
Amy Poehler
Do you remember your Damon Affleck? Thoughts in 97. Heading into this movie.
Chris Ryan
I don't. I mean, I think I remember seeing Day. Like, I remember seeing Affleck in Dazed and be like, that guy's a prick. He seems like. Like, that would be, like, what he does in the movies.
Sean Fantasy
Oh, banion.
Chris Ryan
But it wasn't like. I was like, these two guys are marked for superstardom for the next 30 years.
Sean Fantasy
Damon was in Courage Under Fire, and it was like, who is that guy?
Amy Poehler
Lost a bunch of weight.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, that was. I remember that very vividly. And then that was a movie with Denzel Washington and Meg Ryan, and people were like, who's that guy? So that. That was a good sign I had.
Amy Poehler
So he's in School Ties and plays, like, the most reprehensible preppy anusm I probably ever captured in a boarding school movie. And he was so reprehensible in that that when you would see him after, you'd be like, oh, that guy from School Ties. He's a fucking prick. And the Will Hunting thing finally and losing a million pounds for Courage Under Fire. Affleck, to me, was just the Dazed and confused guy. And then he was in Chasing Amy, which I thought he was really good in. But, you know, it wasn't like there was a huge history. Right. Do you have a history with them orsillo?
Ryan Rosillo
No. The only thing that's really funny about the Affleck part of it is he went to UVM and dropped out. So I remember I had everybody at this year had, like, left. I was like, hey, we're all staying here, like, five years, right? Literally, everybody was gone. And so then, you know, whatever. I hope everybody makes fun of me, because I know Bill's ready, too. I think that's when I started buying the Syd Field books. And I was like, let me figure this screenwriting thing out. That might be a path. And then in a classic Boston sense, like, there was a couple guys from my group that are Massachusetts guys that made it as screenwriters. And then there was a bunch that wanted to be screenwriters that hated anybody else's success. So when this first started making the rounds, you're like, what happened? Like, oh, this guy was a Harvard kid. And then I guess Damon was there five years and dropped out. So credit to him for staying the course. But it's like he got together with this dude that was at uvm, but then he chased some girl to California. And they're both Boston guys, and I guess they're, like, getting this movie made, and it's going to be awesome. And then classic again. Massachusetts dude in our. Our friend group was like, they didn't even write it, though, dude. He's like, they didn't. Like, he already was ready, like, preemptively to be like, if this thing works out. Those guys. So that actually kind of influenced because these guys were way more into it. And I was just buying books. I wasn't even reading them, but I was like, yeah, figure this deal out. And it just was such a classic New England specific to this area where it's like a couple homegrown dudes about to make it great. And the immediate part of it was like, yeah, those guys actually suck, though.
Amy Poehler
Well, what's funny is in Hollywood, that's happening too. They're battling this. This story that started going around that they didn't write it and that William Goldman rewrote it. It was one of the great screenwriters.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, one of my friends was so excited when he was like, he heard this.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, he was.
Ryan Rosillo
He just felt better about himself that.
Amy Poehler
He hadn't done anything. I wonder if that's happened where on both coasts. People are like, yeah, they didn't do it. Yeah, they didn't write it. These guys.
Chris Ryan
Well, so before the Internet, you could really just like, let that one rip and nobody really could check you. So be like, I heard William Goldman wrote it.
Ryan Rosillo
I feel bad in a way that we're even doing this this early because I don't think any of us actually believe it. No, if you go down the wormhole of this, because I remember, like, checking up on it, being like, is this real? Like, okay, it's the end. They didn't write it. I'm doing great.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Ryan Rosillo
It's such a fucked up thing what you do when you're younger. And the whole argument was, so these guys just out of nowhere write this Oscar award winning screenplay and then they don't write again. But, I mean, the easy counter to that is, no, they just became two of the biggest movie stars in the world.
Amy Poehler
Two of the ten biggest stars.
Sean Fantasy
I love that. What Goldman said, when he finally fully addressed it, he was like, you know why they didn't write another movie after this? The same reason that Sylvester Stallone didn't write another movie. Because it sucks to sit in your writer's hole by yourself when you can get paid $20 million to go act in a huge movie. It makes sense.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Affleck's not on the set of Armageddon going, I really miss just being at Dunkin Donuts working on a scene.
Sean Fantasy
I love Microsoft Word.
Amy Poehler
Well, there's so many touches that you can tell, like two guys from here wrote it. But one of the things they talk about a lot is they wanted to write an awesome part for a famous actor. And that's the Sean character, the professor. So they had Morgan Freeman or Robert De Niro, like in their head as they're writing that character. And they wanted him to have a couple big monologues which he ends up having. And they end up getting Robin Williams, who, you know, starts out on Mork and Mindy. That's how I got to know him, which was a sitcom in the late 70s, but then has this whole movie career. He's in Garp and Birdcage, Good morning Vietnam, Mrs. Doubtfire, Dead Poets, the Six. But then this is what he wins the Oscar for. And I, I still like, I still feel like Dead Poets might have been what was the right Oscar for him.
Chris Ryan
I re watching this movie this time. Like they pretty good. Are throwing alley oops to him. Like, he really has a lot of meaty scenes in this one.
Amy Poehler
It's pretty good. What do you think, Sean?
Sean Fantasy
The Genie in Aladdin is elite like that. That's high level animated voice acting. I, I think this is probably the right choice. I love this part. I love this performance.
Amy Poehler
Like 55, 45 for me between Deadpan did some percentage.
Sean Fantasy
I can feel him when you're watching it though, working so hard to not be super annoying talk show Robin Williams, you know, he's like, it's like he's got nine guys holding him back from not riffing and doing a voice, which.
Amy Poehler
I appreciate it is possible when you put on that, those cardigans that he's wearing, you just become immediately more sensitive and thoughtful. This has been my dad's trick for like 50 years. He's got three cardigans on all the time.
Chris Ryan
What do you think he's wearing cardigans then?
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, yeah. Now that you mention your dad, it's like Robin Williams is a PD version of your dad, right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, totally. What do you have for the Oscar for Robin Williams?
Ryan Rosillo
Well, I like, you kind of grew up with him as Mork and you're like, how long is this going to go? Yeah, but I don't know that I was like seven going, I don't like this guy's Runway dad. You know, probably didn't look at the world that way back then, but I just, I just love when anybody breaks out of like the typecasting of what you are. And clearly like Garp was the first I Don't know if that's his first movie, but he's probably the first time.
Amy Poehler
His first big part.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, we're good.
Amy Poehler
Embryo.
Ryan Rosillo
So now you're starting to realize. But no, he. I don't know if it's going to come up during the Dion Waiters Award thing, but on the most recent rewatch and again, I watched it today because of travel and how it worked out. I mean, I'm so. I'm fresh off of it. I. I mean, every single scene with him, he's crushing. It crushes and it works.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
There's not one piece of dialogue with him where it's not like setting up some other payoff. And I still think the Boston Common scene, like getting to write that and, and having like, hey, here's this whole explanation and he's not going to come at him. But then it all just ties in together. Like that's really. That might be the most impressive part of the entire movie.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, Mini Driver got nominated as well. She's really good in this. She had a nice little run. Four, five. Four or five movies in there that were great. Gus Van Zant, you want to do a little. Do a little 30 seconds on this. Sean.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, he's incredibly important in this movie and I don't think it would be nearly as good if it wasn't made by him because his whole thing is like the invisibility of the camera. Like you feel like you're watching real people and every intimate conversation that probably would feel really overwritten by a bunch of 23 year old guys from Boston don't feel that way at all. It feels super real because of the way that they talk about it in that oral history, how he just like sits next to the camera and lets them figure out how they want the part to go. He let Robin Williams try to do it 10 different ways, but Ben Affleck only wanted to do it two ways and he let them do whatever they thought was right. And you know, he's an independent filmmaker from Pacific Northwest who's made a ton of great movies over the years. This is probably the most mainstream thing he's ever done, but he's got like a little bit of, you know, realistic secret sauce that I think elevates it.
Amy Poehler
Any relation of Van Zant from Heat?
Chris Ryan
You know, it's funny you should say that because the other director up for this movie was Michael Mann and he wanted to make the guys into car thieves. And when I found that out, this movie got 5% worse to me because I was like Shit, I need goodwill. Car thief.
Amy Poehler
You know, I had this coming later, but let's talk about this now. So this is a what if for this movie. He shoots a whole day of footage with them for a screen test and then goes with this whole thing about how he wants Mexican car thieves to be in it. And they're explaining to him that that wouldn't really feel like Boston. And he's all fired up about it, but. So the title of that would have been Good Will Hunted.
Sean Fantasy
Do you think he does that, though, for every movie he's up for? He's like Shakespeare in love. But they're car thieves. Titanic. They're stealing the Titanic.
Amy Poehler
There's time and they're running out of time.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but if you think about the pitch of what it really is, it's like it's a girlfriend in therapy. Like, I can't believe I saw it.
Amy Poehler
Well, this movie won two Oscars. Robin Williams won for Best Supporting Actor and the boys won for screenplay. Damon. Fourth person ever at this point to get nominated for acting and writing in the same year. Sean, can you name the other three?
Sean Fantasy
I can't accept that. That's an erroneous fact. I saw this fact as well.
Amy Poehler
What is it?
Chris Ryan
Wow.
Ryan Rosillo
Are you rattled?
Amy Poehler
No. I said to this point.
Sean Fantasy
Well, I could off the top of my head. Rocky did it.
Amy Poehler
Sly Stallone, Orson Welles, Charles Chaplin.
Sean Fantasy
But also Woody Allen did it for Annie hall because he was nominated that year.
Chris Ryan
You're Hush. Below the crowd there was.
Sean Fantasy
Whoa, you may recall.
Amy Poehler
Listen, we have friends here.
Sean Fantasy
And then I'm just correcting the aroma.
Ryan Rosillo
This is like a math scene.
Amy Poehler
Sean's like, you know how easy this is for me. It's a fucking joke. Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Don't put a whiteboard in front of me, man. I got markers. It happened again, one year later with Life Is Beautiful. Roberto Bonini did it.
Amy Poehler
Wow, that's a tough one. You know who fond memories of that Oscar?
Sean Fantasy
Harvey Weinstein.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Well, we have. So we have two big Oscar debates that come out of this.
Ryan Rosillo
Do we?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we do. Buckle up, Priscilla. That's coming up next. Jack Nicholson wins for as Good As It Gets. The other nominees were Matt Damon, Good Will Hunting, Robert Duvall and the Impossible. Peter Fonda and Uli's Gold, that was the other choice for tonight. And then Dustin Hoffman for Wag the Dog. And all these years later, I just think Damon should have won.
Sean Fantasy
Agree.
Amy Poehler
And as Good as It Gets, which was really good when it came out, it was James L. Brooks and it was a thing. Helen Hunt got Nominated, too. I just don't think it's aged well as a movie. And it makes me mad that Matt Damon didn't win.
Chris Ryan
CR Damon's unbelievable in this movie. Do you ever think about, like, him writing his own speeches, though? Like, do you ever, like, think that that, like, should be some sort of demerit? Because, like, if Jack Nicholson could always just write his own scenes.
Sean Fantasy
Like, is this you justifying never having won an award? No, you write all your own material.
Chris Ryan
But I think Damon is, like, even scenes that I thought of as Robin Williams scenes like, Damon is unbelievable in the middle, so he is very deserving.
Amy Poehler
I thought he was awesome. What do you think, Priscilla? Look. Oh, boy.
Ryan Rosillo
I never. I think I. I don't think I've made it all the way through as.
Amy Poehler
Good as it Gets, so that might disqualify.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I don't even think I should have a vote. This is like, hey, if you watch the NBA this year, you want a Defensive Player of the year award? Like, sure. I mean, somebody the other night said that Miles Turner's in the running, and I'm like, what the. But I guess Robin Williams is so good that I think it may have hurt Damon's case.
Amy Poehler
He got outshone.
Sean Fantasy
I think it's a good take.
Amy Poehler
He should have won. Affleck did not get nominated. Robin Williams wins, and he beats all of the people in Boogie Nights. Burt Reynolds got nominated, but everybody else who could have gotten nominated. And then.
Ryan Rosillo
Do you. Wait, do you agree with that?
Amy Poehler
Well, he beats Robert Forster and Jackie Brown, and Sean is, like, very partial to. I'm not as partial. Greg Kinner and as good as it gets. And Anthony Hopkins and Amistad.
Sean Fantasy
You voted for Anthony Hopkins?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Who's John Quincy Adams? I think in that film, honestly, just.
Amy Poehler
Bad rough luck for Burt Reynolds. I think he wins in a lot of other years.
Sean Fantasy
It's very similar to Stallone not winning for Creed, where that whole time, everybody thought Bert was going to win, and then he lost because everybody realized that nobody likes Bert Reynolds in Hollywood.
Amy Poehler
Right. That, by the way, that's going to happen to Draymond Green with defensive player of the year this year. He's favored right now. That got Ro.
Ryan Rosillo
No, but, I mean, it's like after the cat thing, he got destroyed and the odds changed. I'm like, have you not paid attention to all these media members?
Amy Poehler
Basically disgusting.
Ryan Rosillo
Everybody is on the same page about him right now. So there's a little Sunday preview, and then goodwill hunting.
Amy Poehler
Goodwill hunting wins over Boogie Nights. What do we think? All these years later for screenplay. It's a tough one. I don't know if I have an answer.
Ryan Rosillo
What's your answer? If we're not doing it in Lansdowne Street.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, that's what I'm trying to not respond. I mean, Boogie Nights should have everything.
Ryan Rosillo
I think Boogie Nights is a better movie.
Sean Fantasy
Thank you, Ryan.
Chris Ryan
Who won Best Director this year?
Sean Fantasy
James Cameron.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, I think Paul Thomas Anderson should have won.
Amy Poehler
Well, this got nominated for nine Oscars. Elliot Smith nominated for Best Original Song for Miss Misery. He's all over this movie, and it's awesome. And Danny Elfman lost for best score to Titanic because Titanic just obliterated everybody. $10 million budget made 225 million. Roger Ebert. So every time we do Rewatchables, we read Roger Ebert's review. Three stars. Maybe just, like. Maybe he had some, like, bad Mexican before the movie and just. Did you read Frame of Mind?
Chris Ryan
Did you read Ebert's review?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. He said the film has a good ear for the way these characters might really talk.
Ryan Rosillo
Might.
Amy Poehler
The outcome of this movie is fairly predictable. So is the whole story, really. It's the individual moments, not the payoff, that make it so effective. It's a borderline fuck you, Raj. I gotta be honest, I don't like his tone.
Chris Ryan
Also, in the body of the review, Ebert just gives away Chucky's monologue.
Amy Poehler
He's just like, oh.
Chris Ryan
And then Chucky says this, and I'm like, this is the best part of the movie.
Amy Poehler
Right? Yeah. Well, all right, we're gonna do some categories.
Ryan Rosillo
That's some. I'm still. I didn't know that.
Amy Poehler
I'm sorry.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I know you guys, like, read these every week, so I. There's so many bad versions of this movie. And this one made it feel authentic. And it was a good ending. It was a happy ending.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And it didn't. You know, all these movies, you're like, oh, it's just gonna be happy at the end.
Amy Poehler
Cool.
Ryan Rosillo
This one felt like you actually felt really happy at the end.
Amy Poehler
Three and a half stars seems fair.
Sean Fantasy
I think he gave it three stars.
Amy Poehler
No, but I'm saying three and a half, I think, is about as low as you want to go.
Sean Fantasy
His take was kind of the consensus take, though. And I think that a lot of the critics who were not in Boston were like, I don't know, is this authentic? I'm not sure. And it seems like everybody here. Do you think Ebert is very authentic?
Ryan Rosillo
Saw the Michael Mann screen test footage.
Amy Poehler
Could be goodwill hunted.
Ryan Rosillo
He was waiting for the cars to chase.
Amy Poehler
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Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I thought Will's apartment looked very Boston. Dunkin Donuts is just omnipresent, which I appreciated. But here's our winner. This is an Affleck story from the oral history. And I'm just going to quote him. One night we took Robin to the El Street Tavern. Robin wanted to get a taste of Boston. I remember thinking, this is a fucking mistake. And then it just turns into a mob scene. Guys got really drunk and wanted to fight me because I had my hat on backwards. That's the most Boston thing about this movie. I'm going with that.
Ryan Rosillo
So he's making the movie. He's from here.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And his hat's on backwards. And somebody's like, yeah, exactly. I mean, it's the same thing as people hearing about them writing this amazing screenplay. It's like they're going to make a movie.
Amy Poehler
Who?
Ryan Rosillo
What do they think they're cool.
Amy Poehler
You think you're better than me.
Ryan Rosillo
I don't want to jump it. But this is. This is Apex Mountain for Bunker Hill. I mean, it's been all downhill since. And no offense to any alums, but when your boy up his first semester at uvm, and then I got a three and a half hour speech on the ride back up after fall semester by my father, we drove by Bunker Hill on 93. And he's like, we could just stop here and drop you off. And so I've never thought of Bunker Hill in my life without that moment of like, it's a lot cheaper. This is the effort you're gonna put in. I don't have to drive three and a half hours, three and a half hours back. He's like, we can find you, you know, place in Somerville. It's gonna be cheaper. And we can just wrap this up if that's. I was like, all right, look, can we just. Let's just get back to Vermont.
Sean Fantasy
I'll try harder.
Ryan Rosillo
And so every time I would drive past Bunker Hill, I'm like, there's a resillo path there. Could have gone different.
Amy Poehler
It's on my son's list for two years from now.
Ryan Rosillo
Can you get in state?
Amy Poehler
The 99's right there. I mean, it's. Yeah. 99. $10 chicken parmesan in 1998. It was great. We're going to do the categories. Most rewatchable scene, the playground fight scene.
Chris Ryan
Got some notes.
Amy Poehler
Hey, Carmine, remember me? Really good Slow motion battle. We got a little Baker street from Jerry Rafferty.
Ryan Rosillo
What about the music choice for the fight scene?
Amy Poehler
Do yes or no.
Ryan Rosillo
I'm still confused.
Amy Poehler
I think that was. He was zagging.
Chris Ryan
We couldn't throw a little Ed Og or Tim Dog in there when they're fighting. Like, I just didn't get that.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, not the berry, but the fruit, y'all.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Next we watch.
Ryan Rosillo
No one got that Roxbury reference. Ophir.
Amy Poehler
The Harvard bar scene at the Bow and Arrow. Here's what I wrote in my notes. Ponytail guy comes in talking market economy in the southern colonies. And then in all caps, were Cilla's dream encounter in 1997.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I don't. I don't know what I'd be like. You think Shay Hillenbrand has become more patient because he takes the first pitch now, which everyone in the league knows that he's going to do, which actually counteracts his patience because he's the most predictable at bat in Major League Baseball. Because that would have it Wouldn't be markets. It wouldn't be capitalism. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
How many times did you and ponytail guys circle each other when you lived here?
Ryan Rosillo
I was. I was a little bit when I got here. How old was I? I was like 27, 28.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Ryan Rosillo
So it was. It was kind of out of me by then. The funny thing is I actually got bigger when I needed it. And when I was more of a dickhead, I was smaller, so it didn't really match. It's actually probably better for everybody in.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Probably worked out the seesaw tilted correctly. Cr. This is a hall of Fame friend scene. We're using all four guys perfectly.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I think the thing I've always wondered is, was that guy named Clark is the Scott Winters character?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Is the ponytail a tribute to Revolutionary War era hairstyles? But yeah, I mean, it's just incredible back getting by the friend group.
Sean Fantasy
He was a huge Amistad fan.
Chris Ryan
That's right. And Stellan Skarsgrd in Amistad, if you'd just been nicer, might have met his hero.
Amy Poehler
Some good shout outs to Thomas Zinn.
Chris Ryan
Howard.
Amy Poehler
Howard. No, Thomas. Who is the Thomas?
Ryan Rosillo
Gordon Wood.
Amy Poehler
Gordon Wood. Wasn't there Thomas too?
Chris Ryan
I don't know, man.
Amy Poehler
I have a big, big doc here.
Sean Fantasy
Thinking of Noam Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent.
Ryan Rosillo
I'll tell you what though. Imagine if you were really in that field and you're like watching that movie and you go, Damon actually just. I'm not a free thinker. I'm 43.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, that's exact. I believed all like that. That scene fucked up at least one person in a way that we'll never understand. And it also makes me like. Like, did Damon just hate that course so much?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Yeah. It was building inside him for 10 years.
Ryan Rosillo
That's not just normal dialogue.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, my boy's wicked smart. There's some really good quotes in here. And then it leads to the do you like apple? Scene, which we could tackle now or later.
Chris Ryan
Up to you, man.
Amy Poehler
Why? Is the answer yes?
Chris Ryan
It's. There's no good. There's no good outcome by saying yes. If Clark just goes, I'm not. And turns back around to the three girls at Dunkin Donuts. The night's over, but he gets to throw the scholars number up.
Sean Fantasy
Can we just dissect it a little bit more though?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
I'm glad you're doing this.
Sean Fantasy
Let's go back to the bar. Clark's in the bar. He's there with his dorky friends. They're standing behind him. When he's starting to go at Affleck. First of all, Affleck's got, like, eight inches on him. He's a giant. And he's a townie who will break his fucking head open.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
And he's. Clark is not hitting on the girls. He just. He knows them.
Amy Poehler
He's just being a dick, but they're not interested. Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
And so he's challenging a townie, which, like, let's just say I'm Clark for the sake of conversation, because I'm a skinny dork. I would never say shit to a guy like that. So then Damon's idea to counter that is rather than break his head open, he's just gonna explode his brain.
Ryan Rosillo
Right.
Sean Fantasy
So he embarrasses him. But then Clark's like, all right, see you later, man. He doesn't try to hit on mini drive or anything. So where does the. Do you like apples even come from? Like, what does he even.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, what was the one. He already won, right? So it was like a double win. Came. He came back for more. See, I had this for nitpicks for later, but in real life, they beat the hell out of this guy at 2 in the morning. I mean, they just do.
Chris Ryan
But I like that Clark walks it up to the edge twice, where they're just like, do you want to go outside? And he's just like, no, I just want to be pedantic about going wood.
Sean Fantasy
But does that work in both scenarios? To be like, it's cool, man. It's cool. Don't break my head open. Ryan, you tell us when you're ready.
Ryan Rosillo
To break a guy's head open. There's a couple things. I've never quite understood what it meant.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I don't have a counter.
Sean Fantasy
This is the most iconic scene in this movie.
Ryan Rosillo
I know.
Sean Fantasy
And every time I watch it, I love it. And then I start to think about it, and I'm like, what really happened here?
Amy Poehler
Whatever.
Ryan Rosillo
I mean, there had to be some, I guess, final moment. So they came up with. I. I've never heard. I've never heard anyone ever say that until the movie came out. And then it. Obviously, a bunch of dudes said it for a really long time, but your thing on. Why would you even go with these guys? I would disagree with that because I think when you're. The whole point of them being in Cambridge. And I remember even, you know, back when I was in school, like, this ROTC crew would come out when they had leave. It was the worst. We're all like 185 pounds with our game hats on. But there was. We were all just clones of each other, so no one was really afraid of anybody else. And then these Rossi guys would come up and, like, hit on these girls from Greenwich, Connecticut, and they were, like, horrified. Like, what, are you on student aid or something? Like, you know, away from me. You know, I'm. I'm from Riverside. Like, this is what the. You know, you know, I'm from Newton or something. And they were just like, why are these commoners talking to us? And then they grab one of us morons and be like, hey, dude. You know, and then it would be like, what have you ever done for your country? And we'd always get our ass stick. But the point is, is that you would feel protective of your neighborhood. And I think in this case, Clark is just like, even if you guys would kill us, you're not supposed to be here. And look, Minnie's at Harvard. I don't know what it was like in 97 because I wasn't here. So maybe. But, you know, that's. They're not just gonna give her away to out of staters.
Sean Fantasy
I really think we should test this theory. Tonight, me and you go to a Harvard bar, start talking to some girls.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but they redid the can tab. I've had, like, two birthday parties there, and I recently stopped in again, and it's, like, nice now. So I was like. I think I played quarters there one night with a case. And then they were like, do you work here?
Amy Poehler
Next scene. Possible rewatch candidate Will's first meeting with Sean when he breaks down the painting, and it's really awkward. And then he says, maybe married the wrong woman. Watch it there, chief. I will end you. I will end you. Trivia for this. Gus Van Sant painted the picture.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
I thought it was Peshy's mom. And Goodfellows.
Amy Poehler
Possible great shock Ordo in here. Cr for this.
Chris Ryan
For the lady film.
Amy Poehler
Damon with the lace.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Chris Ryan
Also love Damon Zhang. Let the healing begin.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Will's second meeting is the next one because we get that incredible Robin Williams monologue we mentioned. We get Boston Common. Great to see it.
Ryan Rosillo
Build a statue.
Amy Poehler
Well, there's a big thing about building a Robin Williams statue near that bench. This is another great Boston fact. When they filmed this scene in the common, there were 3,000 people, like, just far enough away so they weren't on camera watching. And this was the heyday. And I was living here when this happened of when they were filming stuff here. It was like the cool, like, they filmed Blown Away with Tommy Lee Jones.
Chris Ryan
Great accents in that. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And everybody was out of their minds that they were filming here. And then the Real World house was in the fire station in Beacon Hill. And that was like, oh, my God, the Real World. But everybody. Those kids were in trouble.
Ryan Rosillo
You were still here.
Amy Poehler
No, I was still here, but the kids were in trouble because they would go out and people be like, ah, Real world, huh?
Ryan Rosillo
That's 100% true. When they were here, everybody.
Amy Poehler
Everyone with them, right? Yeah. It completely up the street.
Ryan Rosillo
Have you noticed they've never done it here again?
Amy Poehler
Never.
Sean Fantasy
Did you apply for Real World Boston?
Amy Poehler
I didn't. I. I kind of wish I had.
Sean Fantasy
Do you. Is there any existing audition tape of you trying to get on a reality show?
Amy Poehler
No.
Ryan Rosillo
Okay. Thank God one of my two roommates of mine did it, and he. They. They didn't hit stop on the camcorder. So one guy sat down, did his thing, and then got up, and then the next guy. And so to this day, he's like, I don't think they waited to see mine.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, that was the problem.
Ryan Rosillo
And we're like, you think that's why you didn't get picked because of patience?
Amy Poehler
This monologue's great, and I'm not going to read it to the crowd, but I think this is some of Williams best work ever. Yeah, it's really great. And I hope they give him this statue. Next one, the Game six story. We get Carlton Fisk footage, which, I don't know. It's been. Does the Fisk homer still matter to the younger people out there? All right, that's great, because it was one of the most important things of the 70s for if you're a kid growing up here. But he doesn't go to the game, and he tells the story about how he had to go see About a Girl. And it's. It's. It still bugs me that he didn't go to the game or solo.
Chris Ryan
To be fair, I think it would bug me.
Amy Poehler
It's my biggest nitpick.
Chris Ryan
If he was skipping, like, a Hornets Blazers game, you'd be like, what?
Amy Poehler
Now? This is a tough one, though. They're down 32 in the World Series. That only been in 67 and in 46. Everybody loved the 75 Red Sox team, including me. And it was the Lynn and Rice team, and Yaz was still there, and he's just like, yeah, I have to take my ticket. I'm not gonna go. I really feel like the. His friends would have, like, fucking fought.
Ryan Rosillo
Him right or they would have just given it to somebody who wanted it really bad.
Amy Poehler
I don't know.
Sean Fantasy
If I come back from it, he's a fictional character.
Amy Poehler
That's a good point. I always forget that.
Chris Ryan
And this story serves as the emotional metaphor for the entire movie.
Ryan Rosillo
I kind of agree with Bill. I don't think that guy doesn't go to game six.
Amy Poehler
I just. I'm trying to think, like, what. How would the girl have been? Yeah, she would understand, too, if it was the right girl.
Sean Fantasy
That's a good take, actually.
Ryan Rosillo
Should she marry him if he didn't go?
Amy Poehler
It's like he would sell out the thing he loves the most right away. Yeah, I wouldn't trust him. This is a short one, but next one is the. Do you know how easy this is for me? Do you have any idea? It's a fucking joke. I just love when he lays in a Lambo, that loser. And then I gotta say, the last, like, 30 minutes of this movie is out of control. Sierra. Yeah, like, from a rewatchability standpoint, we get Skyler, leaves to la. Looking back, seeing if he's in the. No, he's not in the airport. We go right to the construction site. Affleck gets his big moment. Then we go to Lambo versus Sean. Then we go to the. It's not your fault. It's not your fault. Then we go to the last scene and then all of a sudden see About a girl and we're good. And it's just like, every scene is a home run.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, it's funny. It's one of those runtime movies where you're like, wait a second, they haven't done, like, X, Y and Z and they're just hit after hit after hit. At the end of the album, Kid.
Amy Poehler
Cudi Pursuit of Happiness award.
Chris Ryan
Wait, we didn't pick the rewatchable scene?
Amy Poehler
No, no, I'm putting it in. And here, I think, because that. Elliot Smith Angeles, I think when she's waiting to see if he's going to show up at the airport or not. I think that's the winner. The Affleck monologue. You've been known to write some screenplay stuff from time to time. Marcelo, in 20 years, if you're still living here, coming over to my house, watching the patriots work in construction, I'll fucking kill you if you're still making.
Ryan Rosillo
That joke in 20 years. You know what I think it did in. It's funny because, like, when you start to really see the stuff that. That works, like, it can be really, really predictable. You know, and then if it becomes, like, too predictable, it kind of loses it. And the funniest thing about this movie for me, and why I appreciate it so much, is that it's actually very predictable, but it never feels forced. It's not that you have to be surprised here. It's just the flow of the storytelling. And so. So for something as innocuous as Affleck to be like, I just hope, you know, the best part of my day is that moment where I'm hoping you're not there.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
So then you kind of know, like, that moment's going to happen that closes it. To see about a girl. There's, like, three different things that close it. The car, because they have to give him a car because he didn't have one to drive cross country. There's just these things that you guys are talking about, just the heat zone that you're in at the end of this movie. I don't know that. It's not that there's some twist. It's not that there's something that shocks you. It doesn't have any of those things. And there's so many movies that this up.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And they're. They're just perfect with it towards the end.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. There's some bad versions of this where he shows up at the airport. Or there's some version of it where.
Amy Poehler
Or he shows up right after the plane leaves.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
He's running toward the gate and doesn't.
Chris Ryan
That's like the 1995 indie movie version where it's like, oh, shit. But, yeah, I mean, like, the. The getting into, like, what. His trauma was also giving the therapist as much time and. And space to, like, have his own story. Usually doesn't happen. It would be. It's just such a great character study.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Ryan was alluding to it. I mean, nothing really happens in this movie. You know, he meets a girl, they go on a few dates, and he goes to therapy.
Amy Poehler
He kicks car. Don't forget about Carmine takes a beating.
Ryan Rosillo
No, but, Sean, you're right. There's not really this. Like, when we were thinking about the rewatchable scenes, when I was even prepping for this pod, I was like, there's a couple good lines, but there's no, like, I'm. You know, do you want to be emotionally drained and watch it's not your fault a couple times a week? Of course.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. You know, wasn't his fault.
Sean Fantasy
It's just. It's a. It's a really heavy drama. And you mentioned the part about how Castle Rock bought the script at the start of it and that they were renowned for their ability to develop material and that everybody wanted to work with them. And they give that big note to be like, this is a thriller and an ordinary people style drama. And they were like, do the drama, which is like the least commercial aspect of the story. And yet their instincts are totally right. And the movie is like weirdly propulsive. Even though there's no chasing her down at the airport scene, there's no scene where like Chucky and Will have a falling out and then they have to get back together. Like, it doesn't have any of that control conventional stuff. So it's kind of miraculous in that way.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. They were in the research, they said Van Zandt wanted them to write an extra scene where Chucky gets killed in a construction accident, like for real. And they actually wrote the scene and they're like, this does not work. America does not want Chucky to get hit by a crane.
Ryan Rosillo
But you know what I mean? Like in, in a. You're right. In a two hour movie, you're like, okay, there's something bad and then it has to get even worse. And, and I'm pretty sure because they made it, they're gonna figure out how to make it better. I mean, really, for this. If you're going by that simple formula, which is basically almost every form of storytelling. What's the thing? Like, it's the breakthrough. You know, the breakthrough. But the. Normally that wouldn't be allowed to even have. Have it happen that late. Like, I bet you if you try to make it now, the note would be have the breakthrough at like an hour.
Amy Poehler
It's like when we do the movie about how we never stop believing in Scoot Henderson. That one game that night when we were texting each other, that was the breakthrough. Same thing.
Ryan Rosillo
Is that better as a Netflix series?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, eight episodes. One thing with the Affleck scene. I thought this was great in the research. I mean, they worked on this movie for five years and this was his big moment, right? Damon has the better part in the movie. They're together and he's the sidekick. But the construction scenes, his biggest scene. And he's building up. And then finally the day is the day and it's like, all right, I might do my scene. He does the take and he nails it. And they were like, that was great. You want to do it again? And he's. And. And he just, he. He didn't know what to do. It was like he had just hit like a game winning Homer. And they're like, all right, you want to do this the other side with the. Now we'll shoot it behind Damon. And. And he was just like. I just felt like I climbed Mount Everest, basically. But it was. It's cool when you watch that because that. That's the scene that kind of sets up the next 30 years for him.
Chris Ryan
I think it's also fun to imagine Gus Van Sant being like, can we have some rebar fall and hit Chucky right here?
Amy Poehler
He finishes it.
Ryan Rosillo
No, but it's a great point, because he doesn't get to show off.
Amy Poehler
No.
Ryan Rosillo
Until that moment.
Amy Poehler
Well, that's why when. I mean, it's pretty crazy.
Ryan Rosillo
If you wrote the screenplay, it's like you didn't hook yourself up a little bit earlier.
Amy Poehler
Well, that's why those guys. Damon's so protective of Affleck. But when I did a pod with them a couple of years ago, and he was so mad about how Affleck was treated after the movie. Even now, when he was like, SNL did a sketch and they made Damon seem like the star, and Affleck was like his loser Boston sidekick. And he was like, Affleck sacrificed. Like, I had the much better part in that movie, and Affleck didn't really have one. A couple other parts near the end here. The farewell therapy scene, right into When Will gets his car. Cole Hazard's best moment.
Chris Ryan
Yes. Yes.
Amy Poehler
It's a good car.
Sean Fantasy
Good car.
Amy Poehler
The engine's good. The engine's good. You could see the seeds of someday. This guy's gonna lead a Taylor share to the show right here. It's a good car. And then the ending. Affleck goes to see him. He's not there anymore. And we get the first of many Ben Affleck faces when he does the. And he. And he does the whole sequence. We see it many times over the future. Then Morgan jumps in the front seat and then tell him, I'm sorry I went to go see a bad girl. And then Robin Williams ad lib. Son of a bitch. He stole my line.
Sean Fantasy
Can I ask you a question? Is that the next day after he tells him, I'll fucking kill you. Because it takes him a long time to realize what's happened.
Ryan Rosillo
It was gonna take a long time to patch, I don't think.
Sean Fantasy
Good point. Not a lot of stuff. But, like, Affleck is really laying it on thick there at the end, you know?
Amy Poehler
You think he propelled him to drive cross country? It's possible.
Sean Fantasy
Seems like it, right?
Amy Poehler
What do you have for most Rewatchable scenes here.
Chris Ryan
I think it's. I think it's probably the first therapy scene, actually. I really love that one. And I love. I love, like the analysis of the art. It's just such a great setup for those two characters.
Sean Fantasy
Sean, I have two that you did not list that are my favorites. The first one is Retainer.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
When Affleck goes in to do the job interview at McNeil, which is so funny. Which might be the funniest full scene in the movie. And the second one is the two jokes is Affleck telling the joke about Uncle Marty and stealing the cruiser, followed by Minnie Driver delivering a great joke about an old Irish couple. I just think those are two great scenes. If feel like they feel like things that actually happen that they put right into the movie.
Amy Poehler
What do you got for. So most rewatch.
Ryan Rosillo
By the way, the state trooper story. I heard that in college from a guy. I'm like, hang him. And then thought it was real. So is that like the Life cereal kid died eating pop Rocks.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Like every single one of us has heard that story. And then when it happened in the movie, I'm like, holy. That happened to him. Him too. Oh, maybe no one's ever had that story, but it was just urban legend thing. Rewatchable. We haven't given. We haven't given Minnie enough love here. Okay, it's coming.
Amy Poehler
We can do it now, though.
Ryan Rosillo
The first kiss scene is like one of the most natural, cool, non forced. These people from completely different walks of life and having that moment where you're immediately comfortable with somebody in a way that just seems impossible when you barely know them. That is the most brilliant part of the. I mean, the Robin Williams stuff is tough to compete with, but she's so believable and the relationship is so believable. I mean, other than he's just like, I know how to do everything. When they have coffee that day, I just. I don't know, it hit me today. I was like, man, all of these scenes with her are. Are just fantastic. And you never. It's not like I wanted the whole movie to be about her, but I just thought that lunch and burger kiss was really cool.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, let's get the kiss out of the way.
Ryan Rosillo
They were trying to make it like the opposite of this dramatic moment, which it would normally be in every other movie.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I wouldn't have put this as most rewatchable. But she's so awesome in the breakup scene. Like, it really feels like he's actually breaking up with her. Like she's Immediately devastated and just crushed by it. I have the construction scene seen as my most rewatchable. What's the most 1997 thing about this movie? I was going to say just young Damon and Affleck with their whole careers in front of them. It's like as we get older, it's kind of amazing this thing exists. What do you have? C.R.
Chris Ryan
I have the fact that there's no Internet. So Will Hunting doesn't spend all his time on Red Sox Reddit shit talking. Move on. I can't hit with guys on run runners on base.
Amy Poehler
We were saying that.
Sean Fantasy
Payphones and the convenience that payphones afforded you when you could say, I forgot somebody's number and go back into the car like a coward. Yeah, you know, like, that's just great. You. If it was now, Skyler would just bang that number.
Amy Poehler
It's true. There's multiple pay phone scenes in this movie. Good point. What do you got?
Ryan Rosillo
It's a pretty diverse film. I don't know. In 2025.
Sean Fantasy
What do you mean? There's Irish and Italian guys in this movie.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Carmine.
Sean Fantasy
Carmine.
Ryan Rosillo
I don't know. Michael Mann might have been on something.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. What stage? The best. I have a bunch of them. I'll. I'll turn it over to you guys, but I want to start here. Giving someone a Dunkin Donuts coffee after you pick them up from jail, is it what tastes the best for me? What do you have, C?
Chris Ryan
I got a couple. I got Will explaining how jokes work to a character played by Robin Williams. And Will's art criticism. I think it won't step away from cutting your fucking ear off. Kind of like lost that sharp elbow style critique of popular culture. I've got to bring that back. And just like the formation of the group, the smart one, quiet one, loud one, dumb one, like, yeah, perfect. The Beatles right there, Sean.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, definitely. Matt and Ben Industries. You know, the idea of them being these icon, this iconic duo now for 30 years running, which is amazing that it lasted this long and usually doesn't work out that way. And then I think this is the. The conversion of Robin Williams legacy from comedy person to iconic actor. And if he doesn't have this movie, even though he did plenty of dramatic parts, he's really thought of more as a performer and not mork. You know, even if he had done Dead Poets and he had done what Dreams May Come or whatever.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Because he had. He was struggling a little bit from an IMDb standpoint. He made that movie, Jack. He made that movie. What dreams may Come with Cuba Gooding that you just mentioned that these. He was a little bit of a slump.
Sean Fantasy
Although, if not for Jack, he might not have done this movie.
Amy Poehler
True.
Sean Fantasy
Because he asked Francis Ford Coppola, who the fuck are these guys? Because he had just made Jack with Francis Ford Coppola, and Francis Ford Coppola cast Damon as the rainmaker. So that was a critical. Even though Jack sucks. Sorry, Jack.
Amy Poehler
Sorry, Jack.
Ryan Rosillo
Look, that's the right answer, because I was watching the Oscar acceptance speech this morning.
Amy Poehler
It's great. That's a good.
Ryan Rosillo
I mean, it looks like a bit like security's supposed to come over and be like, who are you guys?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
I remember Dennis Miller, when he had his HBO show, he played the clip and he goes, what we didn't hear when they went to commercial was, we're going to get so late.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Ryan Rosillo
This sheer euphoria, which also in that clip, you can see Minnie Driver miserable because Damon dumped her in real life.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
He's like, dude, I'm about to win a fucking Oscar.
Amy Poehler
Like, yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, you know, I'm not staying. Like, I can see what's in the mix, but Boston accents, I think, age the best because I had guys, as we know, it skips generations. It skips geographic, geographical areas. Like, you can be separated by five miles, and you're like, I know what you're saying. And you're never going to pronounce the word drawer in your entire life.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
So we had guys come back that summer. Like, I had a buddy, and we were out at a bar, and the girls were like, where are you guys from? He's like, oh, I'm from woven. I'm like, who the fuck are you?
Amy Poehler
Right?
Ryan Rosillo
Because he never had it. He never had it. I go, what? I go, what are you. What are you doing? He's like, dude, you know when I'm coming home, you know, like, I just pick it up. I'm like, yeah, except you've never had it the whole time I've known you. Like, this is our fifth year of knowing each other, and you've never. You've never picked it up. Like, you come on. Like, what are you doing? And Good Will Hunting is responsible for that. And Good Will Hunting, Boston guys became, like, a novelty in la. Like, they were like, hey, we've got this really dumb kid from Framingham who's going to talk like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck in real life. So, like, you guys want.
Amy Poehler
As a pa. Yeah, right.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, you guys want to watch him talk and get some drinks. So I mean the accent's kind of still. This movie changed it, man.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Now Rhode island is the state that that happens to this PA's from Rhode Island. You gotta hear him. I have a couple more. The friendship aspect which we mentioned. The clothes, the cardigans for Sean. But really Chucky's outfits.
Chris Ryan
His tracksuits.
Amy Poehler
These tracksuits. And it's cheap and fancy at the same time, but it's perfect.
Chris Ryan
There's a great bit in the oral history about the costume designer wanted to dress them almost like in like homeless rags. And like they had to like call somebody from Reebok to Rush tracksuits to Chucky.
Amy Poehler
Right. The top four guys in this movie. So it ends up Casey wins an Oscar. And then Cole Hauser is the star of the biggest audience wise TV show we've had the last 10 years. And then Damon Affleck. Or Damon Affleck. But you rarely go four for four. It's like when you have a family that has four siblings or more probably not going four for four with the siblings.
Sean Fantasy
I'm one of four.
Amy Poehler
Maybe go three and a half for four. You have four for four.
Sean Fantasy
I mean.
Ryan Rosillo
Yes.
Sean Fantasy
So imagine if I was like, ah, there's one Rock one. You know. Sorry, Kyle.
Amy Poehler
I always used to make fun of House because he had two brothers and it was like, which one's the black sheep? I still can't figure it out. Affleck has a late 90s director's DVD commentary. Before the era that we knew social media and the Internet was really coming the way it did. And he's just on 1D time.
Chris Ryan
He's the best directory. Guys.
Ryan Rosillo
He's no one's. I mean the Armageddon one. I'll randomly remind myself to watch those clips.
Amy Poehler
He's unbelievable in these.
Chris Ryan
We.
Amy Poehler
The therapist scenes are just really good. Wanted to shout those out. George Plimpton. I don't care if you put from the rough. I don't know where they came up with that. Phenomenal.
Sean Fantasy
And then that whole scene is insanely funny. Damon doing the club stuff is with.
Amy Poehler
George Plimpton, by the way. George Plimpton. And then my last one is the girl in the bar at the beginning who starts making fun of Chucky's dick and calls it Irish Curse and a Tootsie Roll just on brand.
Ryan Rosillo
Toot.
Amy Poehler
Toot.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
There's two that are lost here.
Amy Poehler
Okay.
Ryan Rosillo
Because you could argue this movie is really about math culture.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Which I don't see brought up a lot.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Not.
Ryan Rosillo
But when the professor is at the Reunion and the. The undergrad.
Chris Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Hey.
Ryan Rosillo
And he's like, it's Saturday. Unless you want to have a drink tonight. You're like, what the.
Amy Poehler
I had that. In what stage? The worst, but I'm happy to flip it. Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Chris Ryan
Jerry's down.
Amy Poehler
Definitely. Great, cuz. Then Ro's like college professor.
Sean Fantasy
The second one is better.
Ryan Rosillo
The second one is better because right when we're. It's the. Is it the Post Plimpton session? Yeah. Right. So Plimpton yells, bally who? Plimpton kills it. I mean, it's.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
You know, we'll see how he's. Have the award shake out. But we just come into the scene and he's turned to some other undergrad. He's like, math is erotic. And like, they don't. You kind of wonder, like, is there going to be. I don't know that you would be allowed to just throw that in there without somebody giving you the note of like, where the hell does that go?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, yeah. The Sean Penn I Brought My Own Pack Award for excellence in on screen Smoking. Damon. 10 out of 10.
Chris Ryan
Oh, my God. But, Bill, we have a moment here. Cole Hauser's last cigarette in this movie is the smoking equivalent of Daniel Day Lewis building an oil derrick. In the beginning of There Will Be Blood, he comes into the bar when they give him the car last puff, smokes it down to the butt, grinds it out, and then goes like this to be like, I got the car for him and gets beers with one gesture. It's just like a fucking triple axle. Lands it. And then the next thing you know, he's outside. He's just like.
Amy Poehler
It'S a good engine. Yeah. Hauser King cr. What'd you end up with for great shock, Gordo?
Chris Ryan
I love that. When Chucky's monologue starts, they stay on Damon. And so the first half of Chucky's monologue is like Damon with the construction, the bulldozer behind him. And it's like, this is this guy's future if he doesn't listen to his friend right now. But it takes a lot like you guys were talking about with Affleck's humility in this movie. It's like, that's his Oscar reel. That's his highlight tape. That's the one. And he's like, spend half of it on my best friend. That's. That's incredible.
Sean Fantasy
Can I give you one other great shot, Gordo?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
There's like a one second overhead shot when Robin Williams is pushing Damon out of the Way when he's telling the Carlton Fisk story and he's matching it with the overhead of Fenway during this, like, very tiny little move. But he loved just seeing watching Williams push him out of the way.
Amy Poehler
Good call, Dennis. Benihana award for scene stealing location. It's gotta be the Boston Common, right?
Chris Ryan
I always loved Au Bon Pan, personally. Outdoors, great turkey sandwich.
Amy Poehler
Sean, what'd you. Oh, the racetrack, the dog track. The Chess, Rockwell and Brocklanders award for best character name.
Ryan Rosillo
Chucky Sullivan.
Amy Poehler
Chucky's Chucky wins.
Sean Fantasy
Professor Gerald Lambeau is pretty good.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Yeah. That is pretty good.
Chris Ryan
Morgan O'Malley, are you sure we're not looking at this?
Ryan Rosillo
I just wondered, like, if they would go, we can't do Sullivan. And then maybe they argued about it forever and they were like, let's just make it Sullivan. They felt like they had a more obscure one.
Amy Poehler
Right. Well, Lambo, that leads to the Vincent Chase Award, named after Vincent Chase from Entourage. Are we sure this character was actually good at his job?
Ryan Rosillo
He's a professor at mit. He probably knows what I mean. Just because he couldn't hold up to date counter.
Amy Poehler
Are we sure he deserved the Fields Medal?
Chris Ryan
Do you know what drives me crazy?
Amy Poehler
Guy's getting blown out of the water by the janitor.
Chris Ryan
We were like, come on, we were talking about this. Backstage is math. Podcasts are starting Fields Medal conversations with way too early.
Amy Poehler
You know, every four seasons, 30 games into the season.
Sean Fantasy
If you don't have one, can I zag on this?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Are we sure Dr. Sean Maguire is a good therapist?
Amy Poehler
Oh. Oh, okay. You. You're going to lose the crowd again. Let's go.
Sean Fantasy
Let's just start here. Commits physical violence during a therapy session.
Amy Poehler
That's true.
Sean Fantasy
Not good.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Has no considerable scientific, psychological point of view whatsoever. Neither Jungian nor Freudian. We have no idea where he. His whole bit is just like, so what do you like?
Chris Ryan
He's just Bar.
Amy Poehler
That's not a trying to grab strategy.
Sean Fantasy
I have more. He's clearly a shitty college professor. Nobody in that class is paying attention, right?
Ryan Rosillo
It is Bunker Hill.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
It's fair. Here's one thing I'm confused about. With that character. Was he a math guy?
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I never got this pivoted.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. What did he teach?
Sean Fantasy
Therapy?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. What do you teach at Bunker Hill?
Sean Fantasy
He was teaching therapy. He was teaching psychology. Yeah, but he was best friends with Gerald Lambeau, and they were a field medal. Okay.
Amy Poehler
He made me reconsider him.
Ryan Rosillo
I gotta tell you, if he had a math background, he didn't want to talk about it with name.
Amy Poehler
Right?
Ryan Rosillo
Like he's sitting there with one of apparently the three best mathematicians on the planet. And he was like, my wife farts a lot.
Amy Poehler
Butch's girlfriend. Award week link of the film. I already talked about giving up the game six ticket in my issues. What do you have? Cr.
Chris Ryan
I got this. It's Tom, the graduate assistant.
Ryan Rosillo
Just.
Chris Ryan
He gives absolutely nothing in this movie.
Ryan Rosillo
Nothing.
Chris Ryan
No emotion. Like there's a really good plot line here where he could get really jealous of Will and he's just like complete Hannibal Lecter the entire time. I know he's an actual mathematician and was like there for Verissa Milletude, but Jesus Christ. He's just like so straight faced the entire time.
Amy Poehler
Pretty good one. What do you got, Ryan?
Ryan Rosillo
So you're talking about the actual character or. Or a question.
Amy Poehler
Could weak link whatever you want it to be.
Ryan Rosillo
That car doesn't make it past Springfield.
Chris Ryan
I got this later.
Sean Fantasy
I had that later too.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
What's the. What was Will's plan here?
Ryan Rosillo
Chucky's picking him up later that night. They get into a fight in Springfield. They get their asses.
Amy Poehler
He's in the breakdown lid. Yeah, he's right at red for Sturbridge.
Ryan Rosillo
Right then the Hours. Another movie where they go back with a bigger crew.
Amy Poehler
It's like right after the i90 exit but before Sturbridge.
Chris Ryan
This was actually my Zwant Neo award for what happens the next day is that the car breaks down somewhere in the Midwest. Will goes to a bar while the transmission's getting fixed, gets in a fight, gets regarding Henry, becomes dumb, forgets everybody else in his life and is destined to work as a janitor in a community college.
Amy Poehler
Amazing regarding.
Chris Ryan
And he doesn't have Skyler's number, so nobody knows, you know.
Amy Poehler
Oh, that's great. It's a great point about the car because, you know, they patched some parts together so it could get him from south Cambridge.
Ryan Rosillo
Another part. Why are those three guys chipping in to buy a car for the only guy that's about to make 80 grand a year?
Amy Poehler
It's a great point.
Ryan Rosillo
Like those guys would be like, fuck him. Like, I'm not.
Amy Poehler
I think Cole Hazard was like, wait a second. He's driving that car cross country. I put a lawn mower engine.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, right. They thought he was just going to Cambridge.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. What do you. You have a weakling, Sean, I think.
Sean Fantasy
It would have been more fun if Marky, Ricky, Danny, Terry, Mikey, Davey, Timmy, Tommy, Joey, Robbie, Johnny and Brian actually existed.
Amy Poehler
Oh, we Had a scene with them. All right. What's age the worst? Harvey Weinstein being the hero of the movie. Tough one. Awkward. See, you could feel this, even the little silence right there.
Sean Fantasy
There's one other one that is, you know, related, which is that Mel Gibson was going to direct this movie until he ultimately agreed not to. So the two heroes of this movie getting made are Mel Gibson and Harvey Weinstein.
Amy Poehler
We lost the crowd. They're done.
Sean Fantasy
I'm sorry. These are facts.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
I feel like Mel's had a slightly better re entry.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, absolutely. You and Chris should debate that.
Amy Poehler
Damon's hair with the frosted tips. A 1997 made sense or just looks horrible now?
Chris Ryan
You'd have to tell us, man. I didn't see a lot of that in Boston.
Amy Poehler
Didn't remember that look.
Ryan Rosillo
Right in sync.
Amy Poehler
I don't remember that look that much.
Ryan Rosillo
Backstreet Boys.
Amy Poehler
I mean, but that feels early for Backstreet Boys, though.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Do you think that the guys from Southie were really modeling their hair off?
Amy Poehler
I don't know. At the time, Damon said, even in oral history, he said, maybe I would have done that one differently.
Ryan Rosillo
The hair, Herb street had frosted tips.
Amy Poehler
What else do you have for the what stage? The worst here.
Chris Ryan
Jerry Lambeau not having heard of ted Kaczynski in 1996 after he had been arrested and was like one of the most famous criminals in the country.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, that's tough.
Chris Ryan
Will attacking the drywall over Skyler's head. Probably want to dial that down.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And the last one was. Oh, yeah. Pre Jason Bourne fighting from Matt Damon.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I like what he did there.
Chris Ryan
I think he took it up a notch. But like, the slow mo Is not.
Ryan Rosillo
It a little badass over here?
Amy Poehler
What do you got for what's at your worst?
Ryan Rosillo
Probably math is erotic again.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Also probably the 10 plus years of any conversation with my buddies, if there was a dramatic pause and then they would look at you and they would.
Amy Poehler
Go, it's not your fault.
Ryan Rosillo
It's not your fault. Yeah, that got old after a little while.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, that's a. What's age the best and the age the worst for this movie? The it's not your fault joke was one of the better. Pull it out of a movie asserted in real life jokes.
Sean Fantasy
I didn't even bring that up when I was destroying Dr. Sean McGuire's resume. But, I mean, that's your final boss move. It's not your fault. Like, your mom can tell you that when you're nine years old. What are we doing?
Ryan Rosillo
What Would you have done.
Sean Fantasy
It worked.
Ryan Rosillo
It's a movie dork name calling.
Amy Poehler
It's Sean versus Shawn. Violence going to Kelly's for takeout just because Kelly doesn't exist and Kelly's doesn't exist anymore. We got a Gerald Lambeau hitting on college students in multiple scenes and then calls Minnie Driver's character and she's like, is this Professor Lambeau? Hangs up on him.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So they made him super creepy as a way to like, oh, we got to give him some color and some depth. Let's make him a really horny, I mean, early 50s guy.
Ryan Rosillo
I'm glad there wasn't any like, reveal on where that was going. But it is funny that. So she answers and says, is this Lambo again?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And then hangs up and says, freak.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Although the day scarf all the time.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Checks out.
Amy Poehler
CR Smoking indoors at bars. I don't know if it's a what stage. The worst. It's a what?
Chris Ryan
It's what age most fondly for me. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Was there a better title for this movie?
Chris Ryan
I don't think so. Goodwill Hunted is. Is really creeping into my brain though.
Sean Fantasy
W. Wicked smart.
Amy Poehler
Wicked smart.
Sean Fantasy
It's a double entendre.
Amy Poehler
Well, I was thinking the. The Janitor. If we go like the accountant. Oh, yeah. The Janitor just starring Jason St. Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
The Janitor has to be a little slower.
Amy Poehler
All right. The CR thinks Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford. Hottest take award named after the time CR thought Luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford.
Chris Ryan
We still have a lot of years left to go to see whether they take.
Amy Poehler
You're not done yet?
Chris Ryan
You know, I have. Will is actually the guy who he is making fun of at the Harvard bar because when he goes into Robin Williams's office and starts kicking all the Howard Zinn shit to him he is talking to a guy who actually went to Vietnam and has had all the experiences. But he's just regurgitating what he read in Chomsky, which is exactly what Clark is doing in that bar. So Will no better than Clark.
Amy Poehler
Interesting. Landed the plane on that. What do you got, Sean?
Sean Fantasy
Is it possible that the Midnight Run esque NSA thriller that they wanted this movie to be could have actually been better than the real good? While hunting.
Amy Poehler
I thought about that. It's not possible see it. Yeah. I would have wanted to see the.
Sean Fantasy
Damon did star in the Born Identity and it was awesome. Like he could do it.
Amy Poehler
No, no. They described it as like Midnight Run crossed with like a spy movie. And it's like. That sounds awesome. Would have I would have seen that in the theater. What do you got? What do you got?
Ryan Rosillo
R. There's no way it works when he gets to la. Cuz he's not going to fit in in la. He going to hate everybody. His smart powers nobody's going to give a about. He doesn't even use them for good.
Sean Fantasy
How do you know all this?
Ryan Rosillo
I can't really follow that up now. 97 that guy.
Amy Poehler
Mine's not even that hot. But I just think this is the best Boston accent ever by Damian in a movie. Like by a star. Wahlberg's polite close. Is there anybody else where you're just like wow. I just think everything Damon does is the right level.
Ryan Rosillo
Blake Lively. I do appreciate somebody yelling at. I think Alec Baldwin. The Departed at the driving range is. I mean it's not the volume but the. The win for the wind shares per 48 are world needs plenty of bartenders.
Amy Poehler
Right. So Gibson. So casting what ifs. We did most of them but. So Gibson develops it for a few months and he's also working on some other stuff. And then Matt goes to him and says look man, we're getting too old. If this keeps going, we can't play these parts. Is there any chance you'd let it go and give back to us? And Gibson said yeah, I'll do that. And then he probably drove to Moon Shadows and did something offensive to a cop on the way home. But. But that was a great moment for him. And then Kevin Smith declined. And then Ben Stiller also declined. The Ben Stiller Good Will Hunting movie.
Chris Ryan
Kevin was basically like, I'm not good enough to make this right. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Best guy.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. He was like, I'm not a. Visually.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Kevin Stowe's like, I would ruin your movie.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah. He said I wouldn't dare direct this movie.
Ryan Rosillo
Honestly. I mean, is he wrong? Then he got him in Dogma, which is very similar.
Chris Ryan
That's true.
Amy Poehler
Best. That guy. Word. It has to be the ponytail guy. Scott Winters who ends up in Oz as the Geico guy's brother is his real.
Sean Fantasy
Riley's brother Ryan and Cyril.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Kill.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, yeah.
Amy Poehler
Just an all time.
Sean Fantasy
That the great Irishman of all time.
Amy Poehler
Dion Waiter's the word. I'll give you the following possibilities. Carmine Hervey. You might remember him from juvie.
Chris Ryan
It's Harmony Kareem.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. The Boston girl who made fun of Chucky's Tootsie Roll. George Plimpton or the one I think is the winner. I think Cole Hauser is eligible because he doesn't Have a lot of lines, I think.
Sean Fantasy
Can I nominate one more person?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, let's hear it.
Sean Fantasy
Jimmy Flynn.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fantasy
The judge. You hit a cough, you're going to jail. He's just doing jfk also as a judge.
Amy Poehler
What do you got? Rosilla.
Ryan Rosillo
You know the Jimmy Flynn stuff, right?
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
So he was like a real dude. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Cole knew he was dealing with three local guys and he deserves it because he didn't try to keep up with him. Like, he. He just knew. And he's like, and then I'll make the most out of these things. And then he was named sexiest man alive 25 years later. When he was. Yeah, because I interviewed him and I was like, do you regret getting married so soon?
Chris Ryan
Just going to. Hung on for two days.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah. You just wrote this out until you were Rip. Who knows? But he. He didn't want to answer that. Did you. Did you look at Rip? Did you give the second Fast and Furious a chance? Because you were like, all right, cool.
Amy Poehler
Who are you talking to? Of course I saw it in the theater.
Ryan Rosillo
Right. But was there an extra moment of like, awesome.
Amy Poehler
I never gave up on Cole Hauser. I just never did. I always liked him. Yeah. Always liked him. I always would see him be like, oh, and then Yellowstone happens. And that's that. Recasting couch director of City. I'd like to combine this with. What role would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played in Volunteer him for Harvard? Ponytail guy playing him as Freddie from Talented Mr. Ripley.
Chris Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Amy Poehler
I just think the movie's better.
Chris Ryan
Or his character from Sensible Woman.
Amy Poehler
Whatever.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
You guys down with that? Can we go? Did this movie have a porn parody? What do you guys think? Oh, it did.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
And it was called Goodwill Humping.
Sean Fantasy
Can I suggest a better title?
Ryan Rosillo
Well, that's the title.
Sean Fantasy
Goodwill Good MILF hunting.
Amy Poehler
Good MILF hunting. Oh, interesting.
Chris Ryan
I looked up.
Ryan Rosillo
That's almost too creative for porn, though.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
I looked up Goodwill humping on my Spotify computer today.
Amy Poehler
So I'll work it out later with them. Half ass Internet research. Will's address you could briefly see when they go to see the other custodians. It was 357 Q Street, 3D in Southie. There you go. Damon started writing this movie in a playwriting class in Harvard. Was a 40 page script. And then eventually Affleck developed it with him. And the rest is history. Cambridge scenes, bow and arrow, the tasty and au bon pan. Those are the three. And a lot of this was sadly filmed in Toronto. The interior shots. Mini driver's character. Skyler.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Named after Damon's college girlfriend who left Damon for Lars Ulrich.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Amy Poehler
Metallica drummer. He's not as old before filming began. Yeah, that's tough trade for her. That borderline Luka Doncic level type of trade. She could have bought in on Damon going up. Instead ends up with the drummer from Metallica, one of the most dysfunctional bands of the late 90s.
Chris Ryan
I did spend quite a lot of time on metal websites today from 2000, like 1998 to 2000, trying to track that relationship. It was rocky. Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Imagine hitting on her post, Lars and Matt Damon and just being a regular.
Amy Poehler
Guy.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, who does your auto insurance?
Amy Poehler
Apex Mountain Sierra. You want to tell the audience what Apex Mountain is?
Chris Ryan
Sure. It is the best something has ever been in a movie. Let's say that. Or in real life.
Amy Poehler
That's not what it is. We still 375 movies. It's when something had the most juice in its career it ever would have had.
Chris Ryan
Why don't we call it Juice Mountain?
Sean Fantasy
That's disgusting.
Amy Poehler
We've heard. Yeah, that sounds disgusting. Terrible. So Damon and Affleck. No. Would you go Redline Trolleys. Has it ever been used better?
Ryan Rosillo
Bunker Hill is my answer for, like, four of the categories.
Amy Poehler
Bunker Hill.
Ryan Rosillo
It's also, like, a haunting image.
Amy Poehler
So would you go with Gus for this one?
Sean Fantasy
I have Gus Vanzan.
Chris Ryan
Okay.
Sean Fantasy
Mountain.
Amy Poehler
L Street Tavern.
Ryan Rosillo
Math.
Amy Poehler
Math.
Ryan Rosillo
Math this or Pie or Beautiful Mind.
Amy Poehler
Beautiful Mind, yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Well, is that math or is that.
Sean Fantasy
Important for the, like, the history of math? Like, not the relativity?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, all math.
Ryan Rosillo
No, we're not, like, including real formulas. I'm just talking about.
Sean Fantasy
Which, as we know.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I don't know. I feel like we haven't really done it. He's apparently the smartest math person in the world.
Amy Poehler
Oh, we have this coming up. They're picking nits.
Ryan Rosillo
All right.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we have some nits.
Ryan Rosillo
No one had found out prior to this.
Amy Poehler
No. Okay. No special. He never advanced in a class. Nothing. Nobody noticed. Mini driver?
Sean Fantasy
I think so.
Amy Poehler
Yes.
Ryan Rosillo
Let me just offer up Grosse Pointe Blank. I mean, she's dynamite as a part of the conversation.
Sean Fantasy
She's amazing, but not as much.
Ryan Rosillo
Juice Mountain, by the way, again, maybe Apex for accents. Not just because the boss is part of it. But in this one, we get. She's from London, right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
She. Again, we've lost. I mean, I don't want to get an immigration right now, but we. We've lost so many roles to the English.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Ryan Rosillo
Sorted out in the backyard over here a couple hundred years ago. But.
Amy Poehler
Right over there. Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
She. She's from London, so I didn't know that at first. I was like, God, she's nailing. That makes sense. But then she gives us a little Irish, right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
She gives us a little Russian in a James Bond deal.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And then even in gross point blank, she throws a few Jamaican phrases at you. So, you know, five tool.
Amy Poehler
Hurt her. Juice Mountains, right around here. Juice Mountain. Sounds like it would be opening on Newberry Street. Don't make.
Chris Ryan
Because I am just trying to explain it.
Amy Poehler
Juice. What emotion I have. Juice Mountain. Closed. Please.
Sean Fantasy
Please stop Mountain. Please.
Amy Poehler
Stone Skarsgard, he's been a lot of stuff andor.
Chris Ryan
Yes.
Sean Fantasy
What about Lars Von Triers, Breaking the Waves?
Ryan Rosillo
Ronin? Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Doing part two is great. Hey, what would you say for Miramax, for Apex Bond? Is it probably next year?
Sean Fantasy
We don't. Let's not. I don't.
Amy Poehler
No. For. For when they had the most power in the movie.
Sean Fantasy
They want Shakespeare in Love. They want Best Picture.
Amy Poehler
Don't get all pissy with me.
Sean Fantasy
Well, I just. We got. We've already done a lot of Harvey. I feel like on this, I'd say.
Amy Poehler
That Shakespeare in Love's probably the most juice they have.
Sean Fantasy
They beat Saving Private Ryan for Best Picture.
Amy Poehler
How about Howard Zinn?
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Isn't. Isn't Shalom's character in Ladybird reading a People's History of the United States, like, on a car.
Ryan Rosillo
Whoa.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Which I think would be maybe higher.
Amy Poehler
Cheap tracksuits.
Ryan Rosillo
No.
Amy Poehler
Pretty good. Okay, Sopranos. The Mass Pike. We get the Mass Pike. The entire end credits with Elliot Smith for like four minutes now it's the two lane part, but.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, but what. What was that shot like? Was that the hardest shot in the entire movie? And then somebody was like, yeah, we're gonna do it in the part where everybody leaves, right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Was it like a helicopter flying low? I don't know.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
It was probably driving behind him, Right? And they're like, maybe.
Ryan Rosillo
But I mean, if you think about the budget for this film and how simple most of it was to shoot, I had to think somebody would be like, why are we actually making the most difficult shot of the entire movie on something that no one is going to watch?
Amy Poehler
My last question is for the audience. Would you go, boston Common, Apex Mountain for a movie? Or would you go, I caught Common. I caught the common.
Ryan Rosillo
Did somebody just try to correct you?
Amy Poehler
Well, they know what I mean.
Sean Fantasy
Sorry, guys.
Amy Poehler
That's the end of the show.
Sean Fantasy
Thanks for coming out.
Chris Ryan
Thank You? Philadelphia.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
But would you say. Or would you go something else?
Ryan Rosillo
I think the TV show Boston Common is Apex, which I still can't believe wasn't picked up.
Amy Poehler
Cruz or Hanks?
Chris Ryan
Cruz.
Sean Fantasy
Cruz.
Chris Ryan
I think Hanks would have done a good Maguire, but I think young Cruz would be a perfect Cruz. I'm sure Cruz was kicking himself. He's like, I've never thought to be a janitor who's also a genius.
Ryan Rosillo
Where do I run? Am I fast? Yeah.
Amy Poehler
They would have put a. He would have run home from Cambridge rather than.
Ryan Rosillo
Because I think it's really funny. They went with a choice where Damon's still putting his clothes on on the green in Harvard.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, his shirt is off and he couldn't put his fucking boots on. He was in such a hurry. Like, I get to walk ashamed. It's like, dude, raise him up first. I know, and I know you look pretty good with your shirt on.
Amy Poehler
It's a violation.
Ryan Rosillo
Cruz would have been running.
Amy Poehler
I think Hank. I think young Hanks could have pulled off Chucky potentially, but I think it's Cruz. All right. The Sean Feny Award for stealth homage that gives every movie nerd a criteria. Orgasm. What do you got, Sean?
Sean Fantasy
I have two runners up. The first one is the job interview that Will sends Chucky on is for a company called Holden and McNeil, which is the name of the character that Ben affleck plays Holden McNeil in Chasing Amy, which was released in the same year.
Amy Poehler
I got some applause.
Sean Fantasy
Thank you.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, thank you.
Sean Fantasy
The how do you like them apples? Line is actually a very subtle homage to the phrase that Jake Giddey says in Chinatown when he says that after a joke.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
And then the best one is when Morgan says, I swallowed a bug in the Harvard bar scene. It's a reference to something that happens in Hearts of Darkness, the documentary about the making of Apocalypse now, where during a scene, Francis Ford Coppola is shooting Marlon Brando and he has to stop because he swallows a bug while he's performing and says to Francis Ford Coppola, I swallowed a bug.
Ryan Rosillo
Wow.
Amy Poehler
And we should have mentioned, apparently Affleck ad libbed, like, half of his lines in this movie. Like, they would just write in the script, it would be like, Morgan comes downstairs and then he would come down and just have a baseball glove and make it seem like he was just jerking off into the baseball glove.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
They would never have any idea what he was doing.
Ryan Rosillo
Seeing that scene again, I was like. Like, does that move the story?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
At all.
Chris Ryan
If you're cool, Hauser. Are you? Like, so this guy just gets like all these lines.
Ryan Rosillo
Like, I. I have a nerd one for you. The dedication of the movie at the end. Like, there's no way anyone. Like, it's such a young guy thing to do. Like, this goes out to Ginsburg and Burrows.
Sean Fantasy
It's like the last thing at the.
Ryan Rosillo
End of the crowd sing a dedication to those guys.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And I wouldn't have noticed it because today I was like, how long does this shot go again? And then I saw that dedication. I was like, that's something we're like, we're going to show everybody.
Amy Poehler
All right? We're going to pick some nits. So nobody else in this MIT class could solve the math problem.
Ryan Rosillo
It was really hard.
Chris Ryan
You're not asking a bunch of math whizzes up here. So, yeah.
Amy Poehler
So Lambo's like, I'm going to create this problem. I'm going to put it on chalkboard and make you guys all feel like shit and then try to fuck you later. That's his plan as a math teacher.
Sean Fantasy
That's a great point.
Amy Poehler
Like, that's it. This is the guy inspiring me at mit.
Ryan Rosillo
Does that mean anybody's checked the actual math there?
Sean Fantasy
Yes, you can look there.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
There's interesting Reddit threads that are like, it's not that hard. Or like, I love that.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Yeah. I could do this easily. Can't believe you use that one second meeting. They go, he's like, instead of the Will and Sean, he's like, let's go. Let's go for a walk. And then they go from Bunker Hill Community College all the way to the Common. That's like a 10 minute cab ride. If there's traffic, maybe like 15. So how did they get there? What did they talk about on the way? I just have a lot of questions. I know they're doing movie devices with that, but it's a lot of silence on the way there. What do you have cr.
Chris Ryan
Picking? It's. I. Why is Will pitching at the batting cages? And if this is Boston, aren't there a bunch of guys, like, get the out of the way.
Amy Poehler
I'm trying to hit. Like, what are you doing over there?
Chris Ryan
You know, like, I also feel kind of.
Ryan Rosillo
I've never. I've never seen anyone allowed to actually just start pitching to his buddy.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Chris Ryan
And they're not even like, working on Chucky's swing. They're like doing all this jerking around.
Amy Poehler
I think they.
Ryan Rosillo
I think once we saw Affleck shoot and on the way back, it was like, oh, that's why they had Damon throwing.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And then they never let Affleck take a cut.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. The only other one I had was when Skyler is talking about, like, I'm a. I'm a basketball player. I should be in the NBA. I feel like a guy with Will's temper would have been like, you don't know what MLK has to do to get those guys ready every night. Antoine Walker and Dana Barrows. There's a lot of personalities in that locker room. You couldn't do that.
Sean Fantasy
What do you have, Sean, by 1997, wouldn't will hunting just be a hacker? And wouldn't he be making millions of dollars hacking if he's the smartest guy in the world?
Amy Poehler
Cause it's like year three of when the modern Internet's in shape. Yeah, we got Ms. Docs versus, like, being a spy guy.
Sean Fantasy
Like, he's fucking broke, right? He's living in that building. The first shot of the movie is like that old lady in the rocking chair, you know, you don't want to live there.
Amy Poehler
Well, when they start writing the script, the Internet's not even the Internet yet, so maybe they didn't. They could have zagged.
Sean Fantasy
He could have gone to the library, you know, got on one of those computers.
Amy Poehler
What do you got, Russell?
Ryan Rosillo
Would Casey or Cole Hauser call Ice on Mini? Like, dude, she's fucking weird. Like, where she. She talks funny. You. Maybe if they did it now.
Amy Poehler
Small nitpick. Cole Hauser's character is named Bill. Could we have done better? Could he. We gone with like a Murf. Murf.
Ryan Rosillo
Murph.
Amy Poehler
Like a Fitzy. Patrick.
Chris Ryan
His Last name is McBride. Right. Like, in terms of, like, that's what it's credited.
Sean Fantasy
Would you call him Mickey then?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, something. Here's my big one. So the end of the movie when AFL has this big scene and Will Hunting's not there. The guys are going to pick him up to drive him to work. They just got. Gave him a car. Why are they picking him up? He has a car.
Ryan Rosillo
There's also another car there too, which begs the other question. Was Will Hunting a hoarder?
Amy Poehler
Also? He has a car. And they pull up and then Chucky's amazed that he's not there. His car's not there. You just gave him the car.
Ryan Rosillo
That's really good.
Sean Fantasy
This is. This is why you're you.
Amy Poehler
Is there any other nitpicks?
Ryan Rosillo
Cuz I wonder, when they wrote the script, they're like, okay, the end is we're building to the end where he chases the girl, he drives to California. Right?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And it's like, well, he doesn't have a car, you know, so maybe that was like a last minute thing. Like, hey, we have to have some moment.
Amy Poehler
Oh, add it in there first.
Ryan Rosillo
21St. You're right. That doesn't make sense.
Sean Fantasy
Can I raise one more?
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
Why doesn't Will just call Skyler and be like, hey, babe, like, I really want to come out to California, but I got this job. I'm making $84,000 a year working for McNeil. Let me just, like, get one paycheck and I'll fly out and meet you. Like, why does he have to drive? Like, just work for two weeks and.
Amy Poehler
Then go see it really likes the car.
Sean Fantasy
But as we know, he's going to get picked up by Chucky when it breaks down.
Ryan Rosillo
Fighting morally, they're pretty good. Because Chucky should be dealing drugs.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, right.
Ryan Rosillo
You mentioned the hacking part of it. So maybe because he's like, I at least got to give him my two weeks.
Chris Ryan
Will's like six weeks away from starting a serious Holden poker obsession anyways.
Amy Poehler
Right.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Sequel, prequel, Prestige tv, all black cast are untouchable. So applesauce would be interesting. The before. What was the last Before Sunrise movie called before midnight. 30 years later. Would you be interested in any of these characters catching up with Will hunting in his mid-50s?
Chris Ryan
Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
So what's he doing?
Chris Ryan
Well, I mean, he's. In my version, he's still a janitor in the Midwest, and they're all looking for him.
Sean Fantasy
Based on what we saw from him inside that bounce castle, I feel like Bill is in UFC right now, choking guys out.
Amy Poehler
Would you want to catch up with these guys in 2020?
Ryan Rosillo
I know already happened to the other three, so that's not a mystery, but I just cannot express how much Will is going to hate going out.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
In Santa Monica.
Amy Poehler
Right. He's at Barney's Beaner.
Ryan Rosillo
Just. Just like, he's going to be like, dude. What? You know, it's just not.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Tries that Sonny McLean.
Ryan Rosillo
He's not going to like it.
Amy Poehler
Hates it.
Sean Fantasy
What do you think of Manhattan beach, though?
Amy Poehler
Oh, he'd probably like it.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, I think he. I think he'd be all right there.
Amy Poehler
He'd find his people hang out, especially 97.
Ryan Rosillo
I mean, granted, he's not going to have the down payment, so maybe he can get some sort of government loan. Lower rate.
Amy Poehler
Is this movie better with Wayne Jenkins, Danny Trejo, Doris Burke, Sam Jackson, Nell Byron Mayo, Barney Cousins, Tony Romo, Harley Mays, Chris Collinsworth, Daniel Plainview Long legs, or Wilfred Brimley in the firm. What do you have? Cr.
Chris Ryan
I do like the idea of, as Will and Skyler are breaking up, and Chris Collinsworth is just like, oh, Mike, he's only breaking up with Skyler because of the generational trauma led to self loathing. Don Shula always told me, you got to love yourself before you love with somebody else. And then as Skyler's crying, the Fox NFL injury jazz place. Or we could do. God damn, Will. I know. I was working with super brain. You out here solving intermediate graph theory with an adjacency matrix and closing on Skyler. You better stop getting in fights with Carmine Scarpaglia in public, or you're going away a long time, big boy.
Amy Poehler
You're not following that. Sean.
Sean Fantasy
What if. What if Daniel plainview is Sean McGuire?
Amy Poehler
Was who?
Sean Fantasy
Dr. Sean McGuire. Okay, so if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skill. Skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo. You know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations, him and the Pope, sexual orientations. The whole works, right?
Amy Poehler
Nice.
Ryan Rosillo
I don't have one of those.
Amy Poehler
Okay. I. I'm gonna bring you in though, for mine.
Ryan Rosillo
Okay.
Amy Poehler
I did want to mention Tony Romo at watching the ending going, he's got to say about her girl, Jim. He's going to say about her. Since we're in Boston, I think we have to add Felgar and Maz to this. Do you want to be Felgar or Maz?
Ryan Rosillo
No, I think you know what you want to do. So I'll be Maz.
Amy Poehler
I think Maz goes, I don't know why we consider him a genius for solving one math problem, Mike.
Ryan Rosillo
Wait, are you math?
Amy Poehler
No. And then Felger goes, yeah, I guess I'm doing both. You want to.
Ryan Rosillo
Because I was like, man, it's a high pitched. Felger, you're gonna have to go even higher.
Amy Poehler
Do you wanna be Felger?
Ryan Rosillo
You don't wanna do anything? Just watch.
Amy Poehler
I think Foger says, I mean, he got lucky at a chalkboard in the hallway with nobody looking. Can you do it every time? Tony, we have no idea if Will Hunting can do that. We don't know if he's an alpha dog. He can't do it, Tony. No, I just feel like they would disparage his credentials at Mass somehow.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, look, you know, hard markers in this town. So I just. I still think there's like, what is.
Amy Poehler
He Capable of will hunting. Yeah, yeah. We don't know. He hasn't won any playoff games. He didn't get the Eastern Conference finals or the NBA.
Ryan Rosillo
Are you saying this is regular season math?
Amy Poehler
Yeah, regular season math only. Cr. Just one Oscar. Who gets it?
Chris Ryan
I'm pretty fine with Robin Williams getting the Oscar.
Amy Poehler
Okay, yeah. No Damon.
Chris Ryan
Yeah, well, we're just doing one Oscar.
Amy Poehler
So I'm good for Robin Williams fantasy.
Sean Fantasy
I said Damon.
Ryan Rosillo
Elliot Smith.
Amy Poehler
Great.
Chris Ryan
Great shout.
Amy Poehler
I got Damon. Probably unanswerable questions. Rosillo. Chucky or Jim? Better Boston buddy sidekick if you had to pick.
Ryan Rosillo
Oh, no, Chucky. You can't. I mean, look, Jim's more fun. Jim. Jim's like, yeah, right. If you had to rent a house in the cake. Are you it with Chucky or Jen? Chucky.
Amy Poehler
Okay. I agree. Cr. What happens if Affleck and Damon switch parts?
Chris Ryan
I think it would be good, but it would be nowhere near what we get. I think Damon probably has access to, like, a little bit more of that golden boy vulnerability. And Affleck is the perfect, like, I'm kind of happy, go lucky, like, here for a good time guy.
Amy Poehler
Sean.
Sean Fantasy
Damon is surprisingly good at playing dumb, so maybe he could have pulled that part off. I wouldn't have thought that. But then.
Chris Ryan
But can you see Affleck solving math problems in a chalkboard?
Amy Poehler
He does it in the Accountant.
Chris Ryan
That's true.
Amy Poehler
I mean, he's basically. We've learned he's a genius in that movie.
Sean Fantasy
I can see.
Amy Poehler
I don't think it's as good of a movie, but it's interesting. Thought experience just feels weird.
Ryan Rosillo
The bigger guy's good at math fair.
Amy Poehler
Any other unanswerables? We did a lot of them.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. No, I just. What happens if this movie's set after. Set after 04 and after the Red Sox win this series? Like.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, maybe.
Sean Fantasy
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Because I think. I think there's, like, a nitpicking thing. If he turns 21 in this movie, it's 97. Whatever. So that means he is born in 76 and he's freaking out about game six. But the thing is, we know here, like, I was zero or I was a couple months old when that game happened, and I knew about that game. Like, I knew about that game in a way that I don't think people would understand how you could be conscious of this game that happened before you were born. Because, you know, at the time, it was pretty much considered as the greatest game in the history of baseball. So I think there have been people that have given that whole part, like, it doesn't match up. The time doesn't match up. It's like, well, no, you don't understand. Because if you don't grow up with that, you understand that every kid that grew up a Red Sox fan, knew about that game. Even it happened years before he was born.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. It's a weird one because we lost the series, and yet it felt like we won because of the Fisk homer. But they lost the next game.
Ryan Rosillo
I think I actually. When I was really little, I was like. It was. It blew my mind when I was 7, was like, they lost that.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Tough times. The Zwantane Award would happen the next day. I have Chucky marries the girl who made fun of his tootsie role. I think they end up together. I think Morgan gets banned from the Fleet center for five years for something happened in a preseason game against Toronto. And then. So cr. I had Will spends three weeks in California, punches out a Lakers fan who made a patino joke, drives back to Boston. Car breaks down in Cleveland. Never seen again. So we're basically great minds.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
What do you have for Zwane? Anything. What happens the next day?
Ryan Rosillo
Well, no, I mean, I kind of already hit on it that I think he ends up in Springfield and Chucky to get him. And then, you know, Springfield, I think, is actually late 90s, scarier than Southie would ever be. And those guys would overestimate their Southie upbringing.
Amy Poehler
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
And you're like, well, we got this. It's like, Springfield's a whole.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. They think it's like a 12 seed against a 5 or something.
Ryan Rosillo
They don't realize, like, I know you think you're gonna win, right?
Amy Poehler
Sean Zo anything.
Sean Fantasy
Skyler dumps him for Steve Jobs.
Amy Poehler
Oh, I like it.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
Comes the first lady. Apple. Yeah. What piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie?
Ryan Rosillo
Not the glove.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. So not the glove.
Ryan Rosillo
Not you said. Yeah.
Amy Poehler
The painting would be interesting.
Chris Ryan
Yeah. I like Robin Williams's socks. Jacket is great.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, I had that, too, Coach. Finstock Award. We're almost done. Best life lesson. It's not your fault.
Ryan Rosillo
But sometimes it is.
Sean Fantasy
This is my whole thing.
Ryan Rosillo
I actually think there's a lot of people walking around thinking it isn't their fault.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Sean Fantasy
So Matt Damon picked a fight with Carmine. I mean, that was his fault.
Amy Poehler
Right? Didn't have to do that.
Ryan Rosillo
And he's never run into him since he was five. Like, that was the day I have.
Amy Poehler
You could be one of the smartest people Alive and still not know a damn thing about life is the message of the movie. I think bet on yourself with Damon and Affleck is kind of the bigger lesson from the movie. Right. These guys were like. They were like, we're starring in this. We're making it. It has to be. We have to be in it. And they do it. And then don't answer yes or no if somebody asks if you like apples, I think would be another life lesson. Just. Just say, I'm out.
Chris Ryan
Granny Smith's, but not Macintosh.
Amy Poehler
Really? Yeah. What do you have for best double feature choice?
Chris Ryan
I have air just to bookend it. And plus, after you get to the end of Good Will Hunting, I don't know if you want to get, like, super serious and watch Ordinary People or something. So I have air.
Amy Poehler
It's lighter fantasy.
Sean Fantasy
I picked the Martian just for the Matt Damon being a genius canon.
Chris Ryan
Oh, yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Priscilla Armageddon to give Ben a little bit more chance to shine.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I had the town. I mean, it's.
Ryan Rosillo
It's.
Amy Poehler
Then Affleck's the star. We're in Boston. We get to be in Charlestown again. Who won the movie?
Chris Ryan
I have Damon, even though he doesn't get the Oscar. But Damon is the star of the movie and the writer of the movie. Damon.
Sean Fantasy
I think it's a rare case where it has to be two people because Matt and Ben both win.
Amy Poehler
Yeah, we have a rule for. This is the last category. Who won the movie? We always say it can't be two people. I don't know how this can be. Not the two of them. I think it has to be right. Especially like when you go watch the Oscars speech. Like, this is like, they fucking did it. Took them five years. They made the movie. They made it happen.
Ryan Rosillo
They did it and they stayed. Yeah, because you would have shorted them as a stock after that speech. You'd be like, okay, well, this isn't going to work. And it works. And they've done. I mean, it's just the way people always think. And probably in a weird way, it's like, okay, cool, cool. You got this thing. But now go away. Like, I don't want you to really have this work there. Look.
Amy Poehler
I don't know.
Ryan Rosillo
They're not complete outsiders because they had roles and other stuff. So normally, if we were just talking about a character or whatever. Robin Williams nails every single scene. But I just can't imagine what that feeling would be like to be in your 20s, have this idea, pursue this thing. Everybody's telling you it's not going to work. All the moments where you're, like, convinced it's never going to work, and then you're sitting there holding an award for best original screenplay and then back it up with three. Three decades of work. I don't know how you split it up.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Affleck was the youngest person ever to win the screenwriting Oscar.
Sean Fantasy
Still is.
Amy Poehler
I got that right. Right, Sean?
Sean Fantasy
You got that right.
Amy Poehler
Jesus.
Sean Fantasy
Yes.
Amy Poehler
How many games are the Red Sox going to win this year?
Ryan Rosillo
91.
Chris Ryan
How many do they have to win before you pot? About them? Oh.
Amy Poehler
Gambling'S legal in Massachusetts.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
I have multiple Red Sox bets. I think they're gonna be good. Including the 90 plus win bets, which was like, plus 136. I also. The NFL over earners came out today. Which cover on my podcast, Pat Seven and a half over. I did that. We're not gonna be four wins better. I mean, what the. We're going, like, at least eight, nine. They're saying Diggs is ACL is untorn. Now.
Chris Ryan
Who's they?
Sean Fantasy
Who is they?
Chris Ryan
Who is they?
Amy Poehler
ACL is solid. His dad.
Sean Fantasy
Was it Dr. Sean Maguire. Who told you that?
Chris Ryan
It's not your fault, Dr. Bill.
Ryan Rosillo
I know. I think it's great when a receiver who's already been on, like, two teams in the last 12 months and is still available and you give him 26 million guaranteed in the first year, who he seems to get along with everybody.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Ryan Rosillo
Can you do it any better than that?
Sean Fantasy
Yeah. He's 32. Turning 33.
Amy Poehler
Producer Craig Robeck, who's here. His counter. Because I. I was saying. I was saying I wasn't totally happy with the dig sign. And he's like, you don't have a receiver. Was his counter. I'm like, I had no counter to that counter. So I don't know. I'm super excited for the Pats. Oh. So Tatum, Tatum, Drake, May. Who's number one right now?
Ryan Rosillo
And.
Amy Poehler
But. All right. Okay. Oh, Pritch, please.
Ryan Rosillo
That's in episode eight of the Celtics. Doc.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Episode 10. Thank you to Loon by Atlassian for having us. Thanks to House of Blues. It's really cool to be here. I mean, I was here when it was. When it was called Avalon, but it's good. They did a good job of this. We almost did it across the street at mgm. I kind of wish we had, but I thought it was awesome. Hey. Well, because we had a lot of people that wanted tickets, so I felt bad, but thanks.
Ryan Rosillo
This was for having us.
Amy Poehler
No, this is perfect. I like seeing the people up there. I just wish we had more people. Cr.
Chris Ryan
Yeah.
Amy Poehler
What's next for you?
Chris Ryan
Well, we're going to be at Coolidge all weekend, hanging out. Good.
Amy Poehler
Yeah. Yeah. So come down tomorrow, theringer.com events if you want tickets. We're going to. We're probably going to talk after a couple of movies, but we're doing Heat, Goodfellas, Goodwill Hunting is actually Saturday night.
Chris Ryan
Sean's gonna be doing therapy for people for free on the street.
Sean Fantasy
I've been studying the Maguire method.
Ryan Rosillo
Yeah, that would be quite the meet and greet. Sit down.
Amy Poehler
Roselle. What's next for you?
Ryan Rosillo
We got a Uber, head of the squire, about 15.
Amy Poehler
Okay, fantasy.
Sean Fantasy
I'm going to drink a few more beers tonight, I think.
Amy Poehler
All right, Boston. Thank you for having us. Appreciate it.
Podcast Summary: The Rewatchables – ‘Good Will Hunting’ Live From Boston
Introduction In the April 1, 2025 episode of The Rewatchables titled “‘Good Will Hunting’ Live From Boston,” host Bill Simmons is joined by Ryen Russillo, Chris Ryan, and Sean Fennessey for an engaging live discussion in Boston. The episode delves deep into the iconic film Good Will Hunting, exploring its cultural significance, filmmaking nuances, character analyses, and lasting impact on both the actors' careers and the portrayal of Boston in cinema.
Episode Overview The conversation begins with Bill Simmons introducing the live show from Boston’s historic Coolidge Corner Movie Theater. The panel sets the stage by reflecting on their previous discussions about Boston-based movies, comparing Good Will Hunting with other classics like The Town and The Departed. They touch upon the challenges faced during the film's production, the authenticity of its Boston setting, and the enduring legacy of its creators, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck.
Cultural and Cinematic Significance The panelists discuss the unique elements that make Good Will Hunting a quintessential Boston movie. Amy Poehler, acting as a moderator, emphasizes the importance of authentic settings, accurate accents, and iconic Boston landmarks in enhancing the film's realism. Chris Ryan highlights the significance of locales like Fenway Park and Bunker Hill Community College, noting how these settings contribute to the film's genuine Boston vibe. Ryen Russillo adds that the film's ability to capture everyday Boston life—through scenes in local bars, Dunkin' Donuts, and community colleges—resonates deeply with both locals and audiences worldwide.
Authenticity and Production Insights A significant portion of the discussion revolves around the film’s production history. Sean Fennessey narrates the five-year odyssey Matt Damon and Ben Affleck undertook to get the film made, highlighting their perseverance and commitment to authentic storytelling. The panel delves into anecdotes from the film's oral history, such as Robin Williams’ emotional reactions during early screenings and the tight-knit collaboration between the cast and crew.
Notable Quote:
Sean Fennessey: “It was probably the greatest bet on yourself since Rocky. These guys were living in Somerville, barely making ends meet, and they just kept pushing until Good Will Hunting became a reality.”
(Timestamp: 06:18)
Character and Performance Analysis Robin Williams’ portrayal of Dr. Sean Maguire receives extensive praise. The panel discusses his Oscar-winning performance, examining his ability to blend humor with profound emotional depth. Amy Poehler remarks on Williams' transformative role, while Chris Ryan and Ryen Russillo analyze specific scenes, such as the Boston Common monologue and the therapy sessions, praising Williams for bringing authenticity and sensitivity to his character.
Matt Damon and Ben Affleck’s performances are also dissected. The panel notes Damon’s vulnerability and Affleck’s role as the loyal best friend, discussing how their chemistry drives the film’s emotional core. Ryan Rosillo points out how Damon’s portrayal of Will Hunting transcends the archetypal genius, presenting a deeply conflicted and relatable character.
Notable Quote:
Ryen Russillo: “Robin Williams brings a mystique and charisma that elevates every scene he’s in. His interactions with Damon are pure gold.”
(Timestamp: 16:44)
Oscar Discussions and Legacy A heated debate unfolds around the film’s Oscars, particularly Matt Damon’s and Robin Williams’ wins. The panel argues that Damon’s dual nomination for acting and writing was historically significant, comparing it to other rare instances like Sylvester Stallone and Woody Allen. They express disappointment that Damon did not win, advocating for his deserving performance.
Notable Quote:
Sean Fennessey: “Matt Damon getting nominated for both acting and writing is a testament to their incredible vision. It’s a rare achievement that deserves more recognition.”
(Timestamp: 25:29)
Nits and Trivia The discussion takes a fun turn as the panelists engage in nitpicking the film’s details. From questioning the authenticity of certain plot points to playful debates about character decisions, they explore minor inconsistencies and behind-the-scenes trivia. Topics include the portrayal of Boston accents, the significance of specific scenes like the playground fight, and humorous “what-if” scenarios regarding casting and alternate storylines.
Notable Quote:
Ryan Rosillo: “Why doesn’t Will just call Skyler instead of driving cross-country? It’s a plot hole that always made me chuckle.”
(Timestamp: 41:04)
Rewatchable Scenes and Highlights The panel identifies several key scenes that stand out as particularly rewatchable. The playground fight scene, the emotional therapy sessions, and the climactic airport moment are highlighted for their emotional weight and cinematic brilliance. They appreciate how each scene contributes to character development and the overall narrative arc.
Notable Quote:
Sean Fennessey: “The therapy scene where Williams delivers that powerful monologue—it’s no wonder it’s one of the most rewatchable moments in movie history.”
(Timestamp: 43:21)
Conclusion and Final Thoughts As the episode wraps up, the panel reflects on the enduring impact of Good Will Hunting. They acknowledge its role in shaping the careers of its creators and actors, as well as its influence on how Boston is depicted in film. The discussion concludes with a consensus that the movie’s authenticity, combined with stellar performances and a heartfelt story, solidifies its place as a modern classic.
Final Quote:
Bill Simmons: “Good Will Hunting isn’t just a movie; it’s a love letter to the city of Boston and a testament to what passion and perseverance can achieve.”
(Timestamp: 108:23)
Closing Remarks The episode ends with a teaser for future Rewatchables discussions and an invitation for listeners to visit The Ringer’s Rewatchables page and YouTube channel for more in-depth analyses of over 300 classic films.
Notable Quotes with Timestamps:
Sean Fennessey: “It was probably the greatest bet on yourself since Rocky. These guys were living in Somerville, barely making ends meet, and they just kept pushing until Good Will Hunting became a reality.”
(06:18)
Sean Fennessey: “Matt Damon getting nominated for both acting and writing is a testament to their incredible vision. It’s a rare achievement that deserves more recognition.”
(25:29)
Sean Fennessey: “The therapy scene where Williams delivers that powerful monologue—it’s no wonder it’s one of the most rewatchable moments in movie history.”
(43:21)
Bill Simmons: “Good Will Hunting isn’t just a movie; it’s a love letter to the city of Boston and a testament to what passion and perseverance can achieve.”
(108:23)
Key Takeaways:
This episode of The Rewatchables offers both fans and newcomers a comprehensive and insightful exploration of Good Will Hunting, celebrating its legacy and enduring appeal.