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The Right Time with Bomani Jones
Chiefs' season over, College Football Playoff disaster, Diddy documentary reaction | 12.08
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Ryan Brumley
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Bomani Jones
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time A Wave original. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We will get to the madness of College Football Playoff, which is not like March Madness, because when we say that, it's charming when we talk about college football madness, because them is crazy.
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But anyway, Chiefs played the Texans Sunday night. The Chiefs lost to the Texans Sunday night. The Chiefs are now 20. And I mean, excuse me, the game was 20 to 10. The Chiefs are now six and seven. Right there with the Baltimore Ravens. Put a pin in that thought. The Chiefs are. Are somehow in 10th place in the conference. And the reason that they are in 10th place in the conference, which I didn't understand, because they were there with the Ravens, who, what I'm looking at said ninth place. But I'm like, but wait, the Chiefs beat the Ravens in week one. And no, that's because the Ravens and the Chiefs also have the same record as the Miami Dolphins.
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That's right. That's where they down there at right now, Right? They down there with the Dolphins, who. I will be perfectly honest with you guys. I completely forgot about.
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Like, I didn't think that they got contracted, right? Like, I didn't think that they weren't in the league anymore. But, you know, sometimes you just don't think about somebody for a long time. People like, oh, damn, I forgot that person even existed.
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Ryan Brumley
Especially when Tyreek Hill got hurt. Yeah, then. Then they did. They. They disappeared from the zeitgeist.
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Bomani Jones
We didn't stop talking about them, like, once we realized they weren't gonna fire Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel. I'll be honest with you. I don't know if two are hurt or not. Like, I mean, at any given day, it could be different. I'm assuming that he's out there playing. And of course, part of why I don't know anything about them is I haven't noticed that they won four games in a row. You know why I haven't noticed why they haven't won that they won four games in a row. Yeah, one of them was against the Bills. The rest was against Cheeks. Ass.
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Ryan Brumley
And the Jets.
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Bomani Jones
Boo. Boo. Yes, we go. The Commandos, the Saints and the Jets. That is who they were out there against. But yeah, that's the company that the Chiefs keep right now. They're just not good. And they are not good in a way that, that happens from time to time in football. I don't, I don't think it so much happens as much in baseball, though. I guess it happens in stretches in baseball and it's just not the way that basketball works. But the Chiefs are bad, but the players aren't. You understand what I'm saying? Like, if you were to point at the roster or point at like stats and stuff like that, you. Generally speaking, we don't really have an answer. So why is it that they're bad? Like, what is your explanation for why it is that they're bad? And the answer is they are coming into this week. Ryan, you know where the Chiefs were at DVOA? I'm going to guess 12th, 6th, 6th. But you know who's 4th? America's team, the Detroit Lions.
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Ryan Brumley
That's football, right?
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Bomani Jones
Right. Like, it's some. And at DVOA normally doesn't work like that. Like, you normally don't really get bogeys going in there in the way that you got this year. But that's the thing with the Chiefs right now, is that the Chiefs are. They are. Bogey. Ish. Patrick Mahomes had three interceptions yesterday. That felt like the worst Patrick Mahomes game that we've ever seen.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, I mean, the nerds were saying if you go like by the EPA stats or whatever, like it was the. One of the. Probably his worst game as a starter.
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Bomani Jones
Look, and we, we saw this team, we looked at the guys, they had a receiver, like the things they had built up. Now, of course, they are in five dot territory. Right. Ryan, you haven't been doing this with me for a very long time. They do not have an offensive line. They have five dots. And I gotta be honest with you, some of those dots ain't even like symmetrical dots. They just blots.
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Ryan Brumley
They're replacement dots.
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Bomani Jones
Yes. Yes.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, it's not even, it's not even the original dots. Squiggle over them.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, I don't know if they are X's or O's, but if they O's, they got holes in them like, like they are. They. They are not. I mean, and it's not. These guys are as good as they're supposed to be. They're not all intended to be out there together at the same Time, like it's supposed to just be one of y'. All. They just, I mean, they're just, they out there with the, the, the second, third unit type of dudes and then you see another one get hurt in the course of the game. And look, maybe that's the depth of the explanation, right? Like, maybe we're, we're being a little too hard on the Chiefs in sum total when it comes to this. But Ryan made a great point right before the show about this. Man, this really makes you look at the Patriots run of the early 21st century and just be like, damn, y' all really did it because this never happened, right? Like the 80s and 90s 49ers had a very similar.
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Situation where this never happened. But again, that is before the cap and then after the advent. And there was going to be some trickle down in this, right? The Patriots were just coming out there and as you put it, Ryan retooling around Tom Brady. There were different kinds of teams and the Chiefs, I think, had a certain element of how it is that they retooled around Mahomes and the league kind of caught up. Paradigmatically. Right. It's too high safety time all around. So you're never going to get like the 5,000 yard Chiefs passing again. And then they figured out the nickel and dime game. They did all this, but this, it never looked like this with the Patriots at this point. There was that one year where me and everybody else in my line of work said they were finished in week four or five and then they won the Super Bowl. That did happen.
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Ryan Brumley
They had bad months. They would have, they would have bad Septembers and we would do the what's wrong with the Patriots thing. But they were never six and seven going into, you know, week 15. Right.
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Bomani Jones
But the, but the other part is they would always be doing it with a bunch of low spades.
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Ryan Brumley
Right?
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Bomani Jones
Right. Like Tom Brady, obviously a joker. I'd say Gronk qualified as joker. You'd have like a Chandler Jones thrown in there. But then when he started asking for money, they would get him out of here. Right. Patriots love to trade a 10 for five deuces, right. Like they are. They are all about that one. But they were out there, by and large with low spades. Or even I would say that like Gronk, well, Gronk was a bit of a spade, but that one dude that was killing people was a very good player, but like not quite a joker. He's almost kind of like, like a king of another suit. Like you could trump it maybe, but like, you know, whole lot was going to have to break right in order for you to do that. It never was this right. They are sitting, like I said, they sitting down there with the Dolphins, bruh. Anybody think they could show up and get a game against the Chiefs at this point? Now look, the Texans are one of those teams that all year long been better than their record. Okay?
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Ryan Brumley
That defense, terrible matchup for the Chiefs in this specific spot with how good their defensive line is and how bad the Chiefs offensive line is.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, you've got dots. They've got Will Anderson and Daniel Hutter. Like that's what they got. And them boys was coming, dog. They were on the way. They were there. So now what? Let me tell you something about the afc. This is very interesting to look at. Okay. Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burrow, we would all agree, I think that those are three of the four.
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Best quarterbacks in the league. Although Matthew Stafford is really messing up the math. Anyway, those three guys will not be in the postseason. It seems pretty clear at this point. I guess it's not too late for Baltimore to catch the Steelers. But, but Ryan, we talking about teams that look like cheeks specifically. Lamar Jackson does not look like a good quarterback right now.
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Ryan Brumley
No, I mean he has struggled with the Steelers historically. Like that's been kind of like the. Yeah, Lamar Jackson big game narrative has always been around that. But he, he looked bad yesterday.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. He looked bad yesterday. He's looked bad this year. They look bad. When are you going to fire the coach?
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, that was a loser of leaves town match between Tomlin and Har yesterday.
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Bomani Jones
That is exactly what it was. What you gotta, you gotta get it done. That was that. That's what that one was looking like. Except we're not having the same conversation about horrible. And I find it again a little bit interesting like this.
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Ryan Brumley
That's what happens when you play at 1:00 clock instead of 4. 25.
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Bomani Jones
You know what, Great point. But I tell you who else is playing in that game at one o'. Clock. Mike Tomlin. And it would not have been treated like a one o' clock game if they had lost this. But yeah, AFC playoffs. Get ready for Bo Nixon, Drake May, Trevor Lawrence, who looked great. Yes. Like I was looking up during that game and I was like, wow, that guy looks like he will be the number one recruit in America.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, look, that guy looks like the number one recruit. The number one pick in the draft.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, he looks like the reputed Trevor Lawrence, that I honestly had not seen the ghost of Aaron Rodgers.
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Ryan Brumley
Justin Herbert. Justin Herbert with a broken hand.
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Bomani Jones
Yes. Josh Allen, who by the way, looked like Josh Allen in the snow, but has not played well this year, I think that we would all admit. So that's the fourth of those four. And his team is going to be there, it looks like. But it isn't. But it's. It ain't. In spite of him, I want to be clear. But it's not so much because of him. And yes, you say broken hand. Justin Herbert and C.J. stroud, who got his egg scrambled. Something vicious like. This is a. This is weird. I skipped over the Indianapolis Colts, who. Man, you want to talk about terrible luck. Terrible luck. So they traded two first round picks to get Sauce Gardner. A big part of that is because they had found their quarterback, or at least they believe they found their quarterback. I thought they got a little bit hasty on leaning in on the idea that they had found their quarterback. Anyway, Sauce Gardner's out there and we thought he tore his Achilles last week. He did not. It was just.
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Ryan Brumley
And now he has a cash trade. Now you can't play him because you have to treat him like he tore his Achilles.
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Bomani Jones
That is exactly it. Yeah. You know what that is? It's a pre toured Achilles, basically. That is. That is what a cash trade is. But he did not tear his Achilles, which had to be very relieving to all parties involved since you traded first two first round picks for him. But it's cool you could do that because you already had a quarterback. Except that quarterback is Daniel Jones, who had a bad left leg and then tore the Achilles on his right leg on Sunday. And I would presume that means that he can't play next week. I mean next. Yes, I would presume that he cannot play next week. I meant to say that he cannot play next season. My fault, though, I gotta tell you, Ryan, if Daniel Jones came out there with a torn Achilles next week and threw for 400 yards. Oh my God, make the movie now.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, right.
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Bomani Jones
In that movie would be not like an inspirational sports movie. It would be science fiction.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah. Bionic Man. Yes.
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Bomani Jones
Yes. That's what it would have to be. But how. How do you feel if you're them top to bottom, like mortgaging your future two for us. Picture. Sauce Garden was kind of wild, right?
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Ryan Brumley
That, that was like. We like the AFC is wide open. We're going for it. And then, you know, you get this great corner. He's hurt within three weeks, and then now you're starting Riley Leonard because your backup quarterback, who you spent a top five pick on, has a broken face.
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Bomani Jones
Yes, yes. Now, also, I want to make this point about Sas Gardner. And he is good, right? I don't think any of us have any question about the fact that he is good. Do you know how many interceptions he has in his career?
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Ryan Brumley
I'm going to say nine.
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Bomani Jones
Three.
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Three.
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Ryan Brumley
That feels impossible.
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Voicemail Callers
Three.
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Bomani Jones
He made first team all pro in two seasons where he had two interceptions between them and one interception with none. That's not to say he isn't good, of course. But I am asking the question. If you're trading two first round picks for a quarter, don't you kind of want him to turn things, like, turn it around the other way?
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Ryan Brumley
Right?
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Bomani Jones
Like that was the thing about Deion Sanders. Deion Sanders. Nobody was throwing over there, and when they did, it was coming back. Richard Sherman always made the point that a great DB doesn't just make, they shut it down. You also sometimes got to lull them into giving you some picks.
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Ryan Brumley
Right?
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Bomani Jones
Like forcing turnovers is part of the job.
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Ryan Brumley
But anyway, you have to be so smart. You tricked them into throwing a pick. Yeah. Correct.
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Bomani Jones
So they made that move and now they're stuck like Chuck. And yes, their first round quarterback from two seasons ago, Anthony Richardson, has a broken face. Right. He has a broken orbital bone. It is really bad. Like, people have thought that I was like, oh, man, they're. They're not telling the truth about Angie Richardson. They're hiding him. No, they're like, yo, you can't really put this cat on camera, man. His face is all broke up.
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And guess what? If you're the Colts, you have no other option but hope that 2026 is the year that Anthony Richardson puts it all together.
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That's what you got.
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I don't know what else to tell you, man. Like, Daniel Jones coming off of a torn Achilles, I think is cooked. You have to treat Daniel Jones in a lot of ways like he. Treat him like you would if he was DeAndre Jones, which is to say, um, you know, without his athleticism, I don't really know if he's going to be able to get it done out here. You know what I mean? If he's just got to stand back there in the pocket and use his noodle, I'm not sure that's going to be enough. You got to treat him like DeAndre Jones. Like, hey, man, you know, he really makes it happen because he can move once he can't move. Oh, boy. I don't know. I think the league's going to figure him out. Yep. You got to use all those terms when you talk about that cat. That's what it's going to be. And Ryan, all those things happen in the week. And we still have tonight where the Eagles have the opportunity to be more hilarious. We haven't even gotten to them, by the way, the Rams. I know they were playing against the Arizona Cardinals, but the Rams look like a machine.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah. When they're on look good. And Puka to cool is making those catches. They look unstoppable.
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Bomani Jones
They do also for the nfc yesterday or Sunday I thought was interesting. I don't know how much of Packers, Packers, Bears you saw.
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Ryan Brumley
Decent amount number one.
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Bomani Jones
That Jordan Love is an entertaining watch.
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Ryan Brumley
Yes. He's. He's so fun.
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Bomani Jones
I'm glad he's not my quarterback. That would give me a heart attack. Correct. However, I kind of wish he was my quarterback because here's the thing. They're going to win a Super bowl with him. Right. That was what really dawned on me in watching that game. I don't know how many of them they're going to win. They may only really be able to pull it off once, but they're going to win a Super bowl with him because he is going to have a month in the postseason once of absolute high level daredevil play where all the variance breaks on his side and it's 4, 4th and 3 and he's throwing it 30 yards down the field and it never misses. Like all of those things are going to happen one time. I don't know how you predict when that one time is going to be, but it's going to happen one time. I also thought that they had the Bears. Caleb Williams had a game where I think he was better than the numbers and that was, you know, I'm not there yet with him. You guys know this, right? I was watching the game with Parkins and you know Parkins has to believe in Caleb Williams because why wouldn't you do so? Otherwise you just inflict your own misery upon yourself. It was a little tough.
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Ryan Brumley
We'll chat about more about that tomorrow.
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Bomani Jones
Yes, that's right. That's right. Yeah. Watching. I left before it was time to watch Knicks team lose. Sparkins handles things a little bit more smoothly. So I was there watching, watching his team lose. But Caleb Williams, I didn't feel like he was getting the requisite help.
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Ryan Brumley
Right.
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Bomani Jones
That he needed in the course of that game.
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Ryan Brumley
Going back to the packers, it would be very hilarious for them to win one sooner rather than later. And then all. Then get into the playoffs and choke repeatedly like they've, like each quarterback they've had. That's correct. Two years.
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Bomani Jones
And by the last few, you mean the last 30. Yeah. I say this is exactly what happened.
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Ryan Brumley
With Brett Favre and exactly what happened with Rogers.
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Bomani Jones
Roger. Well, so what is so interesting to me is that of their three quarterbacks, Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers are completely different archetypes. Right. Brett Favre is out here. Awesome. Yolo, though I contend those four years of Brett Favre, I want to call it like 94 to 97 where he won three MVPs.
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Ryan Brumley
Yes.
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Bomani Jones
They're quite possibly the best four years of football that any quarterback has had. Because you go back and look at it, and this is in that era of football where Brett Favre is Thor for like 39 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. Yeah, Brett Favre, right. Like that. That's what he was on. And then you get to Aaron Rodgers, whose problem is he's just a little bit too cautious. And then they got Jordan and they.
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Ryan Brumley
Ended up having the exact same career they did.
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Bomani Jones
That is crazy. And now they got Jordan Love, who was like, y' all got that old thing back. Yeah, right, right. It's, it's, it's a roller coaster ride, but he is their guy. Also, shout out to you, Tampa Bay Buccaneers. How embarrassing is that that you lost to the Saints?
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, they.
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Bomani Jones
They fall at your own house.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, they've fallen apart.
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Bomani Jones
And I guess, to be fair, let us not forget that their quarterback kind of has one arm right now. Now, granted, the arm he has is the one he throws with. Yeah, but like, I feel like as a quarterback, your other arm is kind of like walking. You don't think about how much you use your big toe. But it is like part of what Every part of it.
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Ryan Brumley
It's like, it's like when you're quarterback and you tear the ACL in the plant leg and it's worse than your lead leg. Yeah, like, you, you don't, you don't think about that. You know, that other leg is more important. But it turns out.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, but this means that in all likelihood, the Carolina Panthers are going to be in the playoffs. You want to play that quarterback game in the NFC that has played in the afc. Like, if this were the NBA, they would be terrified of what the ratings are going to be.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, they be putting a lot of games on the. Exclusively on the NFL Network.
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Bomani Jones
But I will say, though, the. That's really funny. The, The NFC Quarterbacks are all interesting.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
All right. The Stafford who's the mvp after he threw those two picks last week, I was like, up. Time for that Matthew Stafford regression.
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Ryan Brumley
Not this year.
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Bomani Jones
Not. Not this year. Matthew Stafford is set up. He wants to. Where they could win that Super Bowl. He could ride out like John Elway.
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Ryan Brumley
First ballot hall of Famer, and trick.
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Bomani Jones
These people into putting them into the hall of Fame.
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Ryan Brumley
Hey, man, you win an MVP in two Super Bowls, you're in.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. And then if you go, yeah, you're right. Like I said, Carson Palmer is like, if I'd only stuck around a little bit longer. Right. Could have been me. Jordan Love, who is up and down. Jaylen Herz.
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Ryan Brumley
We'll see you tonight.
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Bomani Jones
I would love. By the way, I would love to get Chris Sibs on here. Did you see when he was on with Kevin Clark and just went with. It is not the coach's fault at all in Philadelphia. It is entirely on the quarterback.
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Ryan Brumley
He. He is very. He really likes getting on one of those islands.
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Bomani Jones
He's willing.
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Ryan Brumley
Cause like everyone, every other person. We talked about this a while ago. I think it was last week about how every other film person is like, it's the scheme, it's the scheme, it's the scheme. But now he's like, it's. No, it's. It's the quarterback.
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Bomani Jones
He's willing. He's willing. And I have to tell you, and though you guys who ever rooted for the University of Texas will understand, you'll never be able to ever would have convinced the 2001 version of me that I would like Chris Sims this much in 2025. Right. I'm not saying he's right about all these things, but I could write a book on, like, my voyage in Sports fandom and logic.
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Ryan Brumley
Everything I learned about football, I learned through experiencing Chris Simms.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, well, realizing, like, hey, man, you've got a really passionate opinion about this person you never met before.
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You might want to dial that back a little.
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Ryan Brumley
Are you guys the same age?
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Bomani Jones
Effectively, yeah, effectively. Chris Sims. I'm probably like a couple of months older than him.
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Ryan Brumley
Got it.
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Bomani Jones
Okay. He's a high school class in 99. Got it.
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Ryan Brumley
Okay.
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Bomani Jones
Ask me. Ask me how closely I followed recruiting back in those days, exactly where I could do that. But anyway, one R Baker Mayfield. Sam Darnold, if you believe that shit.
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Brock Purdy, Mac Jones. Does it really matter which?
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Caleb Williams. We might get some more of that. Jared Goff, the Little Homie, Bryce Young. And then outside of Dak Prescott, quite Possibly the best quarterback in the NFC this season, Dakota Prescott, and somehow still eligible for the playoffs, J.J. mcCarthy. This is weird quarterbackness, ladies and gentlemen. Weird.
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I don't know if it's too early to say that I was right. I don't even know how many of you fully agree with me that I was right, because I don't think you agree with me because you keep trying to take a problem and make it better by doing more of the problem. But I stood alone for decades, Ryan, decades, explaining to people that the College Football Playoff was never going to be a good idea, okay? My argument for why it was never going to be a good idea largely hinged on the fact that there was never going to be a good way to come up with a national champion in college football, because the point of this was never to name a national championship, okay? The reason that college sports generally, but really college football more than anything else exists is, is one reason and one reason only.
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Vibes, that's it. It's fun, it's a good time, makes people feel good. But most importantly, this game began.
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When everything was regional, right? Everything was really about what was going on in your own business backyard. And I have always contended that this game is at its best and at its most enjoyable when it is its most regional. Now, is it logical to have a system where you determine a quarter, I mean, a champion, by having a bunch of people around the corner, around the corner, around the country, vote?
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It's not illogical, actually.
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And the reason I say it's not illogical is that it is no less logical than having a room full of people sit around and vote about who gets into your little tournament that you put together at the end of the year. It's a different way to do it, but it doesn't make a lot more sense. What it is, however, is perhaps just a little easier for people to wrap their minds around, because the logic of a tournament and head to head, it does not tell you who a quote unquote true champion is, nor is it especially scientific. But it is easy to understand, right? Hey, we beat them, now we go play another round. Now we beat them, we go to another round. Okay, like, everybody gets that. But this isn't like when you have one of these tournaments in professional sports. And a big part of the reason why it's different when it runs in professional sports is the leagues are small enough and partition into divisions and conferences in such a way that all the teams play a reasonably similar set of games. And since they play a reasonably similar set of games, their records are close enough to be incomparable that I can say you are 11 and two, you are 10 and one. You should be ahead of that other person because you are 11 and 2 and that team is 10 and 1, right? And then if you wind up in a situation where they have the same record and they played head to head and you could determine the winner and you can use that as a tiebreaker because tiebreakers are always going to be, to a degree, some bit of arbitrary anyway, but you can just go ahead and do that. But the key to all of that was we were working with manageable sets of information that make it very easy to make decisions. There was always a bit of an understanding in college sports that you were not going to be working, at least in a national context, with manageable sets of information. You weren't, okay? So as a result, we had things like voters and polls, because that was what you needed to make sense of what was going on. You trusted a group of people that you perceived to have a certain measure of expertise and then let them vote and come up with stuff. Now, again, they wouldn't always gonna be out here getting it right and everything else.
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But all it took was somebody didn't like a little something that somebody did, right? And once somebody didn't like that little something that somebody did, now we argue about it and now it's, why do we have a playoff? Everybody else has a playoff. Why don't we have a playoff? They got a playoff in Division 1, Double A, and it works. Why don't we have a playoff? And I would always ask the question, man, how the fuck you know what they do in one AA work or not? You ain't watching.
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You understand what I'm saying? Like, everybody got so caught up on this idea that it was necessary, that this was the only legitimate way to come up with something, right?
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And now you got it. You got the playoff that you always ask for. And I know that it apparently TV ratings have been good, right? People watch all the games, so forth and so on. I hear you there. I'm just asking you.
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What has this made better?
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And I want you to think about something right fast. Because I don't know how many people I've seen talk about this. I've talked about this in this context. And Ryan, you read these things a little bit more than I do, right? So you feel free to let me know if I'm wrong about this. And I think I told managed by you a little bit. But even still, I contend that In a different era, even though that game was number one versus number two, I contend Indiana, who, by the way, looks like Indiana when they are playing against Ohio State. They beat Ohio State for the Big Ten championship.
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As recently as. I'll call it 15 years ago, maybe even 10 years ago, but let's call it 15. I think that may have gone down as one of the biggest upsets in the history of college football there. Like, I don't care about what the betting line was. I'm talking about, in effect, how many of you really thought that Indiana had an actual, factual chance against Ohio State. Right, right. Indiana. Like, I remember what a big deal it was when Northwestern went to the rose bowl in 1995. Okay. It was giant. All right.
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Ryan Brumley
Similar. Like the thing when I think of big upsets and conflict. Well, the first thing that jumps to mind is. Is Boise State and Oklahoma in that Fiesta Bowl. Yes, like that. Like, those types of, like, calibers of programs going against each other and, like, looking the same on the field and ultimately getting the win in the end.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. But Indiana, to me, is the same caliber of college football program as Boise State.
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Ryan Brumley
Correct. That's my point.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, things are different now. And they'll talk about, oh, it's nil. This is a bunch of dudes from James Madison. Like, I don't think that nil is the secret to what Indiana is doing.
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Ryan Brumley
This is not what Texas Tech is doing.
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Bomani Jones
Right, right. Like, I think it may have something to do perhaps, with just the money the Big Ten brings in, and it allows Indiana to then be more competitive to their peers or whatever. But no. Signetti brought. He brought.
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Di was like, I'm bringing my luggage. And it's Louie, look. Signetti was like, I'm bringing my luggage. And, boy, is it ever sturdy. Look at the. Look at the stitching on this. It's put together so well. Right. But it's like this. But they did this. And I don't think that we are celebrating the fact that Indiana is the number one team in the country going into the postseason in the way that we would.
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Ryan Brumley
And there's no. And there's no real argument for anyone else.
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Bomani Jones
No, there's none. And look, they've only really played against two good teams this year, but those two good teams are the number three and the number five team in the country. And they went into one of their houses and beat them definitively. And not only did they beat Ohio State in this championship game at a neutral site, it was 13 to 10. Like, Ryan, you Tell me if I'm crazy, but normally you would expect in a circumstance like this, and you made use Boise State as the example. Trick plays.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, trick plays, high barriers, special teams, touchdowns. But no, they got into a nitty gritty Big Ten war with Ohio State.
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Bomani Jones
Beat him and beat them. Okay, that doesn't feel like it matters that much anymore. Like, I remember when they, when they changed the Indian speaking of Indiana, they changed the Indiana High school basketball tournament. And I was talking to Pat40 about this when it happened. This is when I was first getting to know him. And what they did was they changed it. The Indiana State High school tournament. If you've seen Hoosiers.
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It used to just be one state champion for all the high schools in Indiana. And then they broke it down like it is in most states. And they have, you know, I don't know how they call it, but five, a four, a three, a two way, you know, up and down the line or whatever. And 40 told me at the time, because I was like, oh, more kids get to be champions. He's like, no, man, they're messing with perfection. And what happens is in the absence of all these different champions, by gradation, everybody was playing for something different. Everybody had different stakes. And so for the little schools, if you win one game, it was like winning state. If you did this, da da, and everything else, but allowed everybody else to come up with what was important to them. And I think in large part that's what college football had always been, is we've got these different levels. Going to the Gator bowl means something for different schools. Kansas went to the Orange bowl one time, you know what I mean? That was a, that was a big enough thing, like the ability to get to all these different places. This was what it was, this was cool. But we just needed a national champion. When the only winner from a true national champion are nationalizing the consumption of college sports, the only winners are television networks, ESPN in particular. Hold that thought. Okay? So, yeah, I think the Indiana example to me points out how we kind of messed up something just because it didn't make sense. Even though it was a lot of fun, we were better off in that regard. So now we've got this playoff and it's going to be a 12 team playoff and it gets you to a committee that, all right, talked about this many times as I've talked about the playoff and everything else. And I'll say it again, because I think it's important for everybody to understand, all right.
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The College Football playoff is a Package of television shows.
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That's what it is. It is a package of television shows presented to you by ESPN and its partners in college football. That's what it is. They have weeks and weeks and weeks of college football ranking shows because those are television shows. And they take those television shows and then they go sell advertising against those television shows. And every week they put out their ratings and then the next day you could turn on ESPN and you can watch their television shows as I do, and there will be people arguing about the rankings. So it is a television show that then begets more television because we will now talk about this on all of the other television shows. But the purpose of those rankings, and this is very important as it goes along, is not really to keep you posted on the progress of the teams or to give you any real insight or understanding into what who is actually going to be in the College Football Playoff at the end. No, sir. The purpose of those shows are to be shows and to be television shows. The logic that they used at any point during the process has no tie to what will happen in the end. It has none whatsoever. Now, I want to say this to that committee. You have a borderline impossible job that you are being expected to do. It is very, very difficult. We know this and we understand this. Okay? However, and look, you could have gone either way on this decision.
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You can't explain to me how it is that Notre Dame and Miami, it was Notre Dame ahead of Miami and then neither one of them played a game.
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And then it was Miami over Notre Dame.
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Ryan Brumley
Unless you're doing a WWE style work.
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Bomani Jones
Right. I don't. And by the way, they weren't doing this for cynical reasons. Because the cynical move is always to put Notre Dame in. Right? So I don't. The argument that people have made is that if there was somebody between Notre Dame and Miami, like it was byu. You're right. And so if BYU was in between them, then okay. But then once you put them right next to each other, then that meant you had to put. That doesn't make any sense. Like, if you took geometry in high school, you could write that proof, right? Like, you can't. Like, like it. It doesn't work. There's no logic under which this makes sense. Now the, the Miami fan argument was we beat them head to head. You beat them by three points at home in the first game of the season. That's a wash. Right? Now if you just think that this is wrestling or boxing and you want a King of the Hill contest, this is where we get into head to head is easy to understand, but if you think about it past the top level, it gets to be a little. Right. I don't know, like, put it like this, we always say that a three point spread in favor of the home team is a pickle. Right.
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You see what I mean? Yeah, like, like this. This was a pick them. But I'm not going to. I think I ain't going to spend as much time arguing about who's number 12. It just doesn't like really make any sense but where they mess themselves up to me, and why this job for the committee is so difficult. And I'm not the first person to bring this up, obviously is the conferences are just so big that there is no ability to compare records from team to team. Right. Everybody plays all these different people. They just, they just. This is how you wind up with Duke being the ACC champion because Duke wins a tiebreaker where they're five, they got. They're a five loss team. They're tied with Miami, they're tied with Georgia Tech, they're tied. But somehow, you know, whatever the tiebreaker came down to, it went there. Because remember when people were like, well, what's the point of having divisions? The point of having divisions is so you have a common set of information that then allows you to decide these two teams in your championship. You won this bracket, you won that. Okay, cool. We then go from there. Otherwise this is what you end up with. Or you end up with Ohio State and Indiana, neither of whom really had to play anybody all year long. Although Ohio State had the Texas game and the Oregon, like, at least they scheduled it. But it's all haywire. None of it makes any sense logically in trying to put it together.
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And what are we going to get out of this as a result? If it's anything like last year, you're going to get first round playoff games that are terrible to watch because the home teams are going to kick the teeth in of the teams that they play against. Oregon at home, against James Madison, they are going to stomp them boys out. Ole Miss. And by the way, what a press conference. Pete Golding, Ole Miss and Tulane. Ryan. I feel pretty confident Ole Miss is probably gonna stomp them out.
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Ryan Brumley
Yes.
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Bomani Jones
What is it? Miami and Texas. I think Texas A and M is going to blow their doors off.
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Ryan Brumley
Yes.
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Bomani Jones
Like that is. I just don't think they're. Who, who, who? Boy.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, I think they're ready for Marcel Reed. No.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. Yeah. And you want to talk about a coaching advantage?
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Ryan Brumley
Yes.
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Bomani Jones
Elko versus Mario Cristobal.
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Ryan Brumley
Especially in game, once the rosters are set.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, that's kind of like Bobby Knight looking at Dale Brown and being like, we're good, we'll be fine. Don't you worry about that. And then what's the other one? Oh, Oklahoma, Alabama.
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Ryan Brumley
Well, that's good for. That's good for business.
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Bomani Jones
Would you like me to read the text from my Alabama fan? Sure would, friend. And just so you know, he's black, win or go home. Game for the board. Can't lose the bill three times in a row. Yeah, that's it. And that game's in Norman. I guess that one. That one has the chance to be.
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Ryan Brumley
A good one for sure.
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Bomani Jones
That's it. But otherwise, these aren't going to be competitive games, man. Like, that's what you got out of this. That's what you got out of this. You were gonna have. You had more fun when it was a wide range of bowls. You had more fun when they figured out one versus two setups and then everybody figured something else out to play for. But like this. Oh, everybody's got the chance to like, Ole Miss has a chance to play for a title. No, they don't. They ain't playing for no title. James Madison ain't playing for no title. Tulane ain't playing for no title. What other Miami ain't playing for no title. Let me tell you who's playing for a title.
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By the way, Ryan, is Indiana playing for a title?
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Ryan Brumley
I guess so.
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Bomani Jones
I think so.
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Ryan Brumley
Guess so.
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Bomani Jones
I think so. But Georgia playing for a title. They're playing for a title.
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Ryan Brumley
Ohio State playing for a title.
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Bomani Jones
They're playing for a title. Or Tech maybe. Yeah, Oregon. Although you know what, if Oregon's player for a title, then Indiana's player for it.
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Ryan Brumley
That's fair.
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Bomani Jones
But either way it goes, that's what we got. Yeah, we got four teams, player for a title. And if you liked having a playoff, you know what we just had very recently? A four team playoff that might have satisfied exactly what you were looking for. Instead, you got all of this.
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Ryan Brumley
All right, Bo, Couple other stories from the weekend. Shador Sanders had probably his best game as a pro. Threw for over 350 yards, four total touchdowns. However, not in for the two point conversion to tie and people are mad. But what was your reaction to this buddy?
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Bomani Jones
I feel like everything in that game, whoever be writing that door script, they got a little something for everybody now, don't they?
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Ryan Brumley
Yes.
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Bomani Jones
I feel like I watched a decent bit of that he made because he's going to hold on to the ball. He's going to make some big plays. Right?
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Ryan Brumley
Right. If you don't pressure him immediately, he's going to get like to throw the jute the 60 yard TD to Judy.
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Bomani Jones
Yes.
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Ryan Brumley
Very good throw.
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Bomani Jones
Yes.
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Ryan Brumley
And yeah he's going and he's going to and if yeah, if you do not pressure him, he's going to make big throws.
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Bomani Jones
He's going to make some things happen. But he also like he had the 60 yard. Now the 60 yard was the Judy was the 50 yard pass the juckings. But that was a screen. Yeah, right. Like it doesn't he was much better in the second half in terms of like getting the ball down the field and all of that stuff. He's going to be their starter for the rest of the year. They're going to take a quarterback in the first round. Like all of those things happen. But he did just enough to serve whatever agenda anybody has in that one. Like the pick he threw was awful. It was very clear that the Titans decided he's going to have to be the one to beat us. He I mean I think Cam Ward's out there for Dolo. Like go play a game and name that Titan.
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Like go, go go. Read who he throwing the ball over there too. You ain't heard of none of them. I've heard of everybody that the Browns got. I ain't never heard of none of these guys that the Titans are throwing to. But Shador outplayed him. Right? Like, there's, like, they played. He played against number one pick. He outplayed him. They were in it at the end. And then Stefanski, like, if I'm not mistaken, the way the two point conversions work for teams, they have a two point play, they practice all week, and when it comes down to it, that's the one that they're going to run. And Buddy Stefanski, that couldn't have been the two point play that you practice. Like, they marched that all the way down the field and you took them off the field again and then y' all ran the play wrong.
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Ryan Brumley
That is. I'm not saying Stefanski was sabotaging Shador Sanders. However, if you want.
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Bomani Jones
That's your. Is that what you thought? I don't, I don't have the camera. I don't. But the problem is, if he had put him out there and they didn't like the play that he called for Shador Sanders, that would also be evidence.
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Ryan Brumley
Correct.
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Bomani Jones
Sabotage. Like, that's what I'm saying. This game is like, every game with him seems to be a little bit of whatever you need or want it to be. Right. The part that Stefanski is going to have the hardest part explaining to anybody at this point is how Dylan Gabriel got to play this many games. And look, the people who are, like, dismissive of the idea that Dylan Gabriel never should have started over Shador Sanders. No, I think that's ridiculous. Shador Sanders was second team All American last year. First team All American was Dylan Gabriel. Like, I don't know why we act like these are two guys of wildly different calibers. Like, Dylan Gabriel won everywhere that he went in college. And look, he went a lot of places.
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Ryan Brumley
A lot of places.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, right. But at the same time, like, what's Buddy's name during the elections? I've seen enough, like, I don't know, I. I've not seen enough to say Shador is a starter or anything else, but I've seen enough to say that he's better than Dylan Gabriel. Yes. And I don't know how Stefanski answers for that.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, we went from the Philly special to the Shador scandal.
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Bomani Jones
Oh, God. What. What is this? This. But you know what? At least it's at a place where, yeah, we could do this every week, but we only have to do it in this place.
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Ryan Brumley
Right, Exactly. All right, so Magic and the Knicks played yesterday. A little bit of a kerfuffle between OG Anobi and Desmond Bane. You were in attendance for this. You said you had a funny story.
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Bomani Jones
Okay, so I was right there. Um, friend of mine, my man Corey, shout out to him. Had tickets to the game, invited me to come. I came to the game. Right. Our seats were literally directly behind the Orlando Magic bench. Right. Here's the problem with that. My seats were directly behind a lot of tall people. Like, a lot of really tall people. Like, you'd be wanting to be like, hey, yo, I. Like, I had one so often. This one dude, man, it's like down in front. Just kept standing up the whole game. But it was Jonathan Isaac.
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Ryan Brumley
I was say, is he still on the Magic?
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah. Like, I can't. I can't tell him to sit down. But anyway, it was right there in front of me. And I don't know what Desmond Bane was thinking. It was such a preposterous thing. Like, it was just like he. He back. There was a whole fast break. Like, it wasn't like he was about to fall out of bounds. And OG got up, just kind of like. I don't understand what just.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, he wasn't even angry. He seemed confused.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. Like, it would have been different if he had heard, like, Desmond Bane hit the ground after. Because he had jumped up in the air or something.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
No, he was just like, yo, what are you doing? And Desmond Bain. It was. It was wild to watch it wash over the Magic bench, who didn't all necessarily see it when it happened, but as they watch it on the replay and be like, yeah, that was kind of. It's kind of messed up. Yeah, he shouldn't have done that. One cat was on the bench. He was like, it's legal, though. It's legal, though. Y' all can still do it. He's still throwing. It's hard.
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Ryan Brumley
Well, kind of. You know, the. The amount of. Of intensity is kind of the problem.
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Bomani Jones
Yes.
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Ryan Brumley
It's the difference between a pat and a slap.
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Bomani Jones
You know, there's nothing quite like when you're riding for your mans and then you find out your man's is 100 wrong. And now you gotta figure out what you're.
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Ryan Brumley
How we're. How we're getting out of this.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. I just. It was. It was a really strange decision by Desmond Bay. That's the. That's the best that I got for you. I also was right there when Franz got hurt. And I'm lucky I didn't see that. Cause that sound like it was bad.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah. All right. And finally, the Diddy documentary on Netflix came out this past week. Executive produced by 50 Cent. You have mentioned it a couple times last week. Finally watched it. I finally watched it. What was your biggest takeaway from the Diddy documentary?
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Bomani Jones
First of all, it's excellent.
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Ryan Brumley
It's really good.
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Bomani Jones
Like, like it's, it's. It's a legitimately excellent piece of work. If you have not seen it, you should see it. We're trying to get an interview with the director. I don't know if that's going to work out, but I'm just telling you.
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Ryan Brumley
We'Re doing something diddy this week, so everyone should watch it.
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Bomani Jones
Yes, yes. Like, it is excellent. And Joel from Missouri City, we're talking to you. Watch it because you might be a guest. So.
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What is so interesting in watching that is how abhorrent he has always been. And we just didn't know it. But it's not like you look at the old clips of him and you're like, wow, he wasn't like anything like he was later. No, he was the exact same person the whole way. Just, wow, terrible. Lots of questions about different things and different people involved. Some of those questions are only questions that I ask when nobody else is around. You know what I mean? But.
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I would just tell you guys this part and this is what I thought was the most diabolical thing. When Puff was all up in the videos dancing, I didn't know he was charging people for it. Like he was when he was all up in they. He was stealing they shine and making them give him money for it.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah, yeah, just a. And like a clear from the get go, I am going places. I am stepping on every person I can get to along the way.
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Bomani Jones
Yes. I can't imagine. And I don't have any other real example of this. Right. Because like, take a guy like Master P, for example. Where to me, Master P was not a rapper, but when we heard about Master P, he was a rapper, you know what I mean? Like, he always led the business with, with his own rapping and then like built a label around it. But he always presented his rapper and was a better rapper than Puffy, for whatever it's worth. I cannot imagine being Puffy and being like, I'm a starter record company and then I'm going to start rapping because that's where the shine is at. Because he's terrible. Ryan, you said you had to learn the hard way.
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Ryan Brumley
I just always assumed that, like, okay, at least he was kind of good. He, you know, had songs on the radio.
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Bomani Jones
No, no, no. Awful rapper, Awful rapper. But you got to Watch it. Like, I'm trying not to tell you too much about it, but the Biggie Tupac episode, it'll make you mad. Whichever side of the Biggie Tupac you were on, it'll make you mad. By the way, fun thing about Biggie Tupac is the years have gone on. Nobody ever acts like they were on just one side of that. When you were. I was there. I was here for this period of life. Your work, right? And whichever side you were on, the bad guy is Diddy. Diddy is the bad guy behind everything. Y' all need to be glad, or Diddy need to be glad that Shine is down there being a conservative politician in his home in his ancestral homeland. Because I would have loved to heard the interviews with him. Like, it's so bad they ain't even have to talk about blowing up Kid Cudi's car. Remember that? That happened. They said it happened. I don't know. But anyway. No, you need to go check that out, man. It's a. It's a. It's a serious piece of work. I don't watch it twice, and I might watch it again.
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Ryan Brumley
All right, Bo. Voicemail lines open. A lot of good ones. Here's our first.
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Voicemail Callers
Hey, what's good, Bo? This is Jay from Kentucky, man, real quick. I was just thinking about how, you know, it's great seeing teams like Indiana and Vanderbilt, you know, finally having, you know, solid football programs after, you know, what seems like forever. And it got me thinking, man, I'd be pissed if I was a school like Kentucky or unc, especially after this year. So I guess my question is, what do you think? Which school do you think is the most pissed that they football program is Cheeks right now, especially with Nil and everything. Love the show, man. And keep doing what you're doing.
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Bomani Jones
I mean, look, there's a.
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I mean, Ryan, it probably has to be you guys, right? Lsu.
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Ryan Brumley
Well. Well, this was six weeks ago before.
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Bomani Jones
We got all the way train.
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Ryan Brumley
People are much happier now.
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Bomani Jones
So I think, though, I need to, like, I don't know, in. In the. In line with. My man was talking about, like, I feel there's two levels of teams, right? Like, there's the LSU type teams that are just not good right now.
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And then there are the teams that are, like, systemically bad or systemic underachievers. And I think those are the ones that get most upset by seeing the Indiana and Vanderbilt. And I. I'm not sure anybody is more upset about being mediocre at football right now for the reasons that we Just described than North Carolina.
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Ryan Brumley
Oh, interesting. I had a different top three.
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Bomani Jones
Who were you thinking?
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Ryan Brumley
Number three, Florida State.
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Bomani Jones
Oh, yeah.
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Ryan Brumley
Number two, usc.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah.
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Ryan Brumley
And number one, Nebraska.
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Bomani Jones
Okay. Nebraska's interesting because I don't know what their reasonable expectations are. You know what I mean? Like, it'll never be what it was.
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Ryan Brumley
I think their expectation is maybe not what it was, but they watch. They're watching Texas Tech, BYU in the Big 12.
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Bomani Jones
Well. Well, my thing is, they're like, why can't we be as good as Wisconsin?
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Ryan Brumley
Right?
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Bomani Jones
But as of right now, Wisconsin also stinks.
- [52:24]
Ryan Brumley
Right.
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Bomani Jones
But with North Carolina. So I think that those schools you describe, I guess generally speaking, yeah, I.
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Ryan Brumley
All did tier one types.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I guess what I'm saying is this. I think they are all very upset about being mediocre, right? But not because they look at Vanderbilt and are like, yo, what about us? Right? I think North Carolina, they look at Vanderbilt, right? They look at Indiana, especially times a football, a basketball school, right? They look at them and they're like, okay, now we have no excuse, right? Like, Florida State looks at that and they're just even more offended. But North Carolina is like, so what's wrong with us, huh? Like, at least Florida State got, like. They got like a proof of concept.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
They have reason to believe that it can be something. North Carolina's like, oh, so we. We went and hired the greatest football coach in the history of Earth, and we still stink, and we still 80 out here embarrassing us.
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Ryan Brumley
All right, here's our next one.
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Voicemail Callers
Hey, Bomani, this is Ron in Tennessee. I'm a longtime listener. Long live the Morning Jones.
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Hey, man, I got a question for you. I'm a diehard Lakers fan, by the way, so take that as an aside, but why do we keep saying that Ty Lue is such a great coach? It's never his fault. The last five years, Clippers, with all the talent that's gone back and forth and all the different manufacturing of these dream rosters and everything else, I think they have won 50 win season the last five years, maybe to the laws.
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Bomani Jones
Oh, wow.
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Voicemail Callers
Made it to the Western conference finals in 2020 once. They've not won. Tyler's always a great coach, especially given the fact is how he just unceremoniously told Chris Paul, as you put it, to call styrone, and they're 5 and 16 this year. Why does he always get a pass? Why do we always say he's such a great coach and he ain't did shit? Go Lakers. Appreciate you, Balani.
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Bomani Jones
One of my favorite things about Lakers fans in the last. We'll call it 15 years, right?
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Remember that year when they had Dwight Howard and they had to scrape to make it to the playoffs? I used to send out a hashtag called this is who you are now. Because they used to get on teams who were just happy to go to the playoffs, and then they was on Twitter all happy about going to the playoffs, and I was like, this is who you are now. Like, Lakers fans have become different people than they used to be because circumstances have changed. Like, circumstances change men. Men don't change circumstances. I forget what book I read that in, but it's a great line.
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Ryan Brumley
That's a great line.
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Bomani Jones
Right? Right. Anyway, so the Lakers who did change, and they will never believe the Clippers are their rival, but they are much more concerned with explaining why the Clippers are not their rivals than they used to be, than they ever were before. Right. And so this is in my. One of my favorite subsets is Lakers fl. Lakers fans talking down on the Clippers. Even though the. And I guess I would say the Clippers have definitely been a better team the last 10 years. Except the Lakers do have that championship.
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Ryan Brumley
They do, right?
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Bomani Jones
They. They. They do have that. But to an. It is a fair question for you to ask. I do think that Lou is a good coach. I don't know how much of this is his fault, but don't you worry, buddy. He'll be getting some blame. I'm. I'm. I'm shocked they haven't fired him yet. 5 and 16 gets you fired.
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Ryan Brumley
I think they have other things going on.
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Bomani Jones
They do.
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Ryan Brumley
I think. I think the one thing that helps Ty Lue is he's never been the biggest culprit. You could always blame Kawhi. You'd always blame. So, like, when. Whenever you're not the worst issue, you sometimes you manage to skate by.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. I think that is probably the best way for us to put this. But I do think it is fair to say that there is a measure of.
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There's some skating going on. There's some skating.
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Ryan Brumley
All right, here's our last one.
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Voicemail Callers
What's up, Omani? I just heard the podcast and somebody was talking about the first time they took a walk with a cousin. I remember the first time I took a walk with my cousins because it.
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Bomani Jones
Was a group of us.
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Voicemail Callers
We was in Yosemite national park, and I didn't know what we was going for either. I thought we was just walking because we was at a campsite and we walking we walking, and then they. You know, then they pull out with it, like, oh, okay, this is what we doing. Oh, I didn't know we was. We was doing this. And on the way. We got lost on the way back to the campsite, and good thing we got lost, because if we was. If we made it back exactly where we were supposed to, we would have ran into a bear. And we came back about 90 seconds later, and my family is running around screaming for their life and was like, what happened? What happened? It was like, oh, y' all didn't see that beer? Nope. Sure didn't, because we got lost on the walk with my cousins, Cordae from the bay.
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Bomani Jones
Ryan, first of all, that is an amazing story.
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I don't know what. Y' all would have took another walk.
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
If y' all would have. Like, y' all got some left, right?
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Ryan Brumley
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
If y' all had encountered the bear. But I'll feel bad about asking this question. Not even in front of Ryan. He said he. Corda from the bay said they was at Yosemite. And I'm like, brother, was you adopted?
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Ryan Brumley
I. I saw that look on your face.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, I saw. It was on your face, too. You just get to listen to these for the first time in private. True. I'm like, like, huh? You guys are okay. Okay. You know, West Coast. Y' all look different. I don't even know. Okay, I got you. I got you.
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Ryan Brumley
Groups can mix.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is. There's a. That's a. That's a serious, serious story. I just want to. I want to know what it's like when y' all got back to the bay and explained to the other black people that y' all ran up on a bear after y' all took a walk in Yosemite. I told y' all not to go out there or assist the back, man. Hey, hey, man, I told y' all not to go out there, man. You know, like, maybe. Oh, my God. That was. That.
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Ryan Brumley
Wow.
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Bomani Jones
That was absolutely amazing. Thank you. Cordae from the Bay. You. You. You really made my day better with that story. Wow.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this three times a week or. Excuse me, four times a week. Ryan Brumley handed everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line. 323-596-7767. You ever ran into a bear while you was taking a walk? Cousins? 3 2, 3, 5, 9, 6, 7, 7, 6 7. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe like, rate us. Review us give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.
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