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Bomani Jones
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time, A Wave original. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is that time of week where we have a guest join us. Check out check him out on First Things first on FS1, 5pm Eastern. Danny Parkins, what's going on, man?
Danny Parkins
Bo, I always love hanging out with you, but man, we have some doozies for us today.
Bomani Jones
We do, we do. We do.
Danny Parkins
I'm so excited to be here.
Bomani Jones
So there are like a couple things that are going on here. One, New York has experienced the thaw, like the first real thaw we've had. 70° the last couple days changes everything, right? Time change came, we got the thaw. It's like everybody gets a little boost. The other thing is, Danny and I are both radio guys and people don't quite understand how daunting it can be, the prospect of filling three or four hours of a radio show. But there's a very special feeling that comes when it's six, maybe seven o' clock the night before. Maybe it goes to eight or nine, whatever. But something happens and you realize, oh, the hay is in the barn. This show, this show has taken care of itself. I don't have to think about it. I can just turn on the phones if I want to and we can just hang out for three hours and we have one of those sorts of days in a space where we only have to fill an hour. And this happens because I looked down at my phone last night after not having looked at it for a while, and I have all these texts about Bam scoring 83 points. And I can't understand either A, who Bam is or B, what game we're talking about people playing. Because there's no world in which Bam out of bio puts 83 points up in an NBA game. But it happened. And Danny, it didn't just so happen. Now look, it was against the Wizards and that part is part of the story. But I. For people who are unaware of what happened, there are important details that I want to make sure that you understand about how absurd this was. Bam scored 83 points in a game where he shot below 50% from the floor, below 33% from three, but shot 43 free throws. In the history of the NBA, the guys who have put up free throw attempt numbers in one game that are up there all have one thing in common. Danny, you know what that is?
Danny Parkins
Tell me.
Bomani Jones
They all stink at shooting free throws.
Danny Parkins
Oh, yeah. Okay.
Bomani Jones
DeAndre Jordan.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
Andre Drummond, Giannis. Like the people were intentionally putting them on the line. Like Wilt Chamberlain in the 100 point game. That was another part of it is that they put him on the line. But all of this added up to Bam scoring 83 points.
Danny Parkins
It's. I too was alerted to this via the group chat. And unlike you, I was. I was home and I got league pass and so my ass turned it on. And I gotta say, Bo, I think this is where I've settled on it. That was the Michael Strahan sack record of NBA scoring accomplishments. Like Michael Strahan, great player, great season. But how he got the record, kind of whack. Yeah, like, like not even kind of objectively whack. How he got the record. And Bam, listen, man, he had. He's a great player. He's a gold medalist, he's an all star. He's a top 10 defensive player for a long stretch. Great backstory. I'm happy for him. He had 43 points at halftime. The last call it six or seven minutes of that game was a clown show. And I have no problem with them running up the score on the bum ass Wizards. I have no problem with his teammates letting him stat pad. I have no problem with going for the record. It's a regular season NBA game and one of the teams is tanking. I had no problem with it. But when you are intentionally fouling, literally intentionally fouling on multiple possessions to extend it, when SPO is challenging a charge call with four minutes left in the game to hunt some extra free throws. It's just a, it's, it's a little corny.
Bomani Jones
It's a, it's a lit.
Danny Parkins
It's a little corny how he got the record. I feel like that's fair.
Bomani Jones
I think the question is, and I think it's important to Note, he did not get a record. The.
Danny Parkins
The modern scoring record.
Bomani Jones
So funny. Wilt is on such another level from everything.
Danny Parkins
Yep.
Bomani Jones
That we don't even count that as the record. Right. Like, eventually, somebody hit more home runs than Babe Ruth. Right. Eventually, somebody outscored Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Wilt. We're like, look, it's not even fair to compare anybody to Wilt. On top of the fact that some of y' all think that shit is made up.
Danny Parkins
We haven't seen the video. That's a big part of the reason.
Bomani Jones
It's not simply that we haven't seen the video. It's just who we are now. Yeah. Right, right, right. Like, this.
Danny Parkins
This is.
Bomani Jones
This is what it is. But this I was watching on get up before we got in here. And Mike Greenberg made the point that history will just remember the number, and therefore, this is history. And so it ties in also to my man Neil Postman, the author of Amusing Ourselves to Death and other books. And he makes the point that with the printing press and the ability to, like, put down the written word, he said before the written word, there were no memoirs. Right. And so his point was that the notion of legacy came in the form of the written word and in the form of the printing press. And what it did was give man the arrogance to believe that he could live forever, because he could live forever in these. Like I say in legacy, in the things that are. That. That that man himself has written or in the things that man has written about him. Right. So if you view it through that prism, yes, history will remember that bam. Adebayo scored 83 points, but we will never remember it in the way that we remember kobe scoring the 81. And I hate this, because I don't know where you are on this, but I hate Kobe Stans. I ain't saying nothing about Kobe. I hate Kobe Stans and buddy, they are charged up right now. Perhaps we will get back to that. But I just want to throw that out there. If you love a Kobe Stan, call them. See how they doing. And don't take it personally when they scream at you. It's about something bigger than you right now. But we all remember, like, Kobe's 81. To me, the more impressive one, and we won't remember it like that one is when Kobe has 62 and three quarters and the Mavericks had 61. And those Mavericks went to the finals that year. Right.
Danny Parkins
Kobe sat the fourth.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. Yeah. Like, they were this close to winning a championship that year. We are never going to talk about this game from Bam in that way. But, hey, cool for him, right? Like, you got to say that you scored 83 points. Nobody's going to take that away from you. But we don't have to be morons, okay? We know what that was. We know what that was about. And I agree with you that it's a little corny, but I want to throw this out there. And it's something that I feel like is a little bit underrated about professional sports. They are so cutthroat and guys are so petty. But on the list of unwritten rules, which we only really talk about with somebody getting injured or it's time to fight, one of the unwritten rules is if your opponent has some sort of historic feat, close attainable, everybody else is supposed to do whatever it takes to help them get there. Right. Like you don't bunt during a no hitter.
Danny Parkins
Yep.
Bomani Jones
For example. And I get that one that is a little bit like, yeah, that's a little. Especially if the game's not close. Like, that's a little bit janky. But if I didn't like you.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, lay it down. Yeah.
Bomani Jones
But on the other hand, that means the next time you see him. Ear hole.
Danny Parkins
95 ear hole.
Bomani Jones
It's coming right there. But that is one of the fascinating things to me is that the decision was clearly made by, by all parties involved here that we're going to help you get it. And to be honest, me, after he had them 30 in the first quarter, where the clothesline at?
Danny Parkins
Well, so, I mean, listen, they were double teaming him in the back for it. They were triple teaming him at times. And like, you know, you see that, like, entry passes, like over three dudes, like, just force feeding Bam. Like, it. It was hilarious. And yeah, I, I said, man, I have no, no problem with his teammates trying to stat pad for him. They were blowing out the Wizards and you should, you should blow out the Wizards like that. That is all. That, that is all fine. And I know that if any of this gets clipped and they hear me say the stray hand part of the whack part, I'll be called a hater by Heat nation and Heat culture and all that.
Bomani Jones
Whatever.
Danny Parkins
That's all fine. But if you listen to the whole
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Danny Parkins
I fucking love the NBA. I love basketball. Like, I already can tell. I already can see 24 hours in the future of like, Kevin Durant doing something about, like, do you guys even like basketball or do you just like complaining about basketball? It's like, no, man. Like, Bam had 43 at half, he had over 60 through three. That was a great game and no one can take it away from him. And he was second now all time. And he's the modern scoring leader. And Kobe was his favorite player. And we'll tell the story of his background and everything that he overcame to get to where he was like, that's all great and it legitimately should be celebrated. But we, like you said, we're not morons. Like, we, we can, we can look at a sporting accomplishment and say, well, they're not all created equal.
Bomani Jones
Right?
Danny Parkins
Like, they're not all created equal. That I called Thunder Nuggets the night before on tv. I was like, that was the game of the year. I had two. My wife was out last night with some girlfriends. I had the Bam game on. I had the, I had Celtic spurs on. Like, I am mainlining NBA regular season basketball. Like, I love the sport. But that wasn't hoop at the end of that game. That was not a basketball game. It just wasn't.
Bomani Jones
And that was the interesting thing about the Kobe 81 was that was a basketball game.
Danny Parkins
That was a basketball game.
Bomani Jones
Right? Like, he got it.
Danny Parkins
Like, I, he was the only guy who shot for the last like six or seven minutes of that game.
Bomani Jones
But, but I mean it, but that's fine. He did that all the time any goddamn way.
Danny Parkins
No, that's what I'm saying. It was, I watched that game too. It was a basketball game. Yeah. The, the end of the game last night, I, I, anyone who's talking about it today, if you're going to do your homework, you need to have either watched it or, or you need to like, go watch the extended YouTube highlights of that game. It was not a basketball game.
Bomani Jones
It just was. Well, also, generally speaking, any record, and I think this is where to be fair to Bam. Anything that is in that record space, somebody gunned for it to get it right. When O.J. simpson ran for 2,000 yards.
Danny Parkins
Yep.
Bomani Jones
If there had been one more game that season, he does not run for 2,000 yards in 14 games. Because they went out there in game 14 with the plan of we're gonna go get this record, right? The infamous David Thompson, George Gervin scoring title run, where David Thompson scores something like 73. And I think Gervin had to come back and get like 60 or something to do it after everybody was gunning for a number in order to make that happen. When Kobe got the 81, the, it was, you know, again, he did that stuff anyway, but it was, hey, we're going to get this number up as high as we can. Wilt Chamberlain, when that happened. But I saw. Again, I was watching get up before I came in here, and Alan Han was making the point. Don't talk to me right now. About ethical basketball. And his argument was it wasn't ethical basketball in the Wilt game because they fouled him all the time early because they thought he couldn't shoot free throws, and then they were doing everything they could to stop him from getting baskets. I'm like, no, that makes the Wilt feat even more impressive. Right? They thought, well, he can't shoot free throws. That'll do it. And he was on fire that day.
Danny Parkins
And so.
Bomani Jones
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Right. The Wilt feat, like I said, there's a reason why we just talk about everything else in this. This, however, was simply not one of the great scoring performances of all time. It was a great way to spend an evening, apparently.
Danny Parkins
Oh, yeah.
Bomani Jones
Like, it was a. It was a great ending of it. It was a very Miami situation. A really good, ultimately superficial and insignificant good time.
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Danny Parkins
Like, that's a great.
Bomani Jones
Like.
Danny Parkins
And by the. Like, yeah, I should make that. Should have made that pointer. I was laughing my ass off watching it.
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Danny Parkins
Like, I'm not.
Bomani Jones
I'm not, like, offended right.
Danny Parkins
By it, but it was just like. It was like, oh, you. You kind of see what's going on here.
Bomani Jones
I mean, like, this was not. We've had so many people score 70 points lately.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
But at least it all felt like. This is crazy. They all felt like they were on fire. I can't imagine, as a basketball team, even with some of the fouls being int. Get to the early part. How y' all. So sorry y' all put Bam on the line 43 times.
Danny Parkins
They are the worst defense in the NBA, and it showed.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, they. I mean, but. Oh, my God. And I was watching them out there. They mailed in on that game early. Like, I can't imagine how much it sucks to be a Washington wizard. They mailed that in. They're just like, look, man, we just be out here, like, we just. We just play, you know? Yeah.
Danny Parkins
Just. Just going out. It was like, with that. That press conference with Russ a couple games back in Sacramento, he's like, what do you. What's your incentive for, you know, the last 15 games or 20 games, whatever it was. And he's like, well, I mean, there's a basketball game to be played.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
But see, the difference is Russ is a professional.
Danny Parkins
That's right. No, he will play hard.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, these guys are just out here like, I don't even know, man, like, like, like what we, what we doing here? But I'm gonna throw another game out here. And this is where you and I have just enough of an age difference that I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember when David Robinson put up? I think it was 71 in 1995.
Danny Parkins
Yeah. Because he, because he was the first guy to do it. It was. It was Wilt and Elgin and then he became the third guy ever to do it.
Bomani Jones
Well, he was the David Thompson. He was the first one since. Since David Thompson scoring title race. But the thing about the game was it was the last game of the season. They were playing against the Clippers at the old LA Sports arena. And Shaq, who had already invented reasons to dislike David Robinson, was poised to win the sport, the scoring title, until the spurs decided they wanted David Robinson to win the scoring title. And they were up big and fouling late so that they could get the ball back and everything else. And even with the fact that it was the first and however long as you described it, we have never treated that as one of the great scoring performances of all time. Right? We have never thought about that the way we thought about MJ's 69 against. I think it was against the Cavs, but his 69 or the 63 against the Celtics, because we understood the context and we knew what it was. That doesn't mean again, that anybody has to apologize for the fact that they enjoyed watching it. But you're not. I don't have to treat this like it was a. It was. You know what? I feel like we need to come up with a distinction between history and a record. You know what I mean? Like, remember when Devin Booker had that 70 points in the bubble and that was before the 70 point run that's happened. Right? Like, look at Lucas hit for 70 since then. Donovan Mitchell's hit from 70. Nobody remembers Devin Booker score seven. Like, we know that Devin Booker did it, right? The. The Luca 70. We know he did it, but they are not history.
Danny Parkins
Right? Like, and there's, There is a. This is all parsing greatness, but that's what we do when we, when we talk about sports. Like, we. We debate useless shit.
Bomani Jones
Right? Right. But. But was this. I think it's fair to ask if this was great. Is it a great scoring performance when you're 20 for 43 from the floor and 7 for 22 from 3? Is that great?
Danny Parkins
And you said you you, you made more free throws than anyone in the history of basketball. And you attempted more free throws than anyone in the history of basketball. Like it is again, like, if it's not greatness, it's what I mean, he still scored 83 points in a professional basket.
Bomani Jones
Hell of a night, right? So is. It so is. But the is great. Is a great night. Greatness.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, that's, I mean, I guess that's a good, like, so one that I was thinking about was, you remember when Klay Thompson, I forget if he was 61 or 62.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. With the, with the like four dribbles or whatever.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, yeah. In 29 minutes.
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
It was like, wait, he was like, what?
Bomani Jones
Yeah, that was nuts.
Danny Parkins
That, that was nuts. Like, like, like that. That is more greatness.
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
Than what Bam did last night. And he scored 22 fewer points.
Bomani Jones
Look, that's what you think is going to happen or has happened if somebody says somebody scored 83 points. Yeah, something like that.
Danny Parkins
That's right. Because I was again, I was watching both games last night and you know, Tirico is doing the, and the NBC, like the main NBC crew were doing the Spurs Celtics game. And so like they're like, during the fourth quarter of that game, like, they're talking about Bam and I think, yeah, it's Reggie Miller and, and Reggie's like, he's like, someone's going to get 100. And I'm like, I don't know. It's been a long time. It's been a long time. We've had this three point thing for a while and you could question the narrator or the messenger there of Reggie Miller and I certainly have plenty of issues with this commentary, but like, yeah, it felt, it feels like we have, we have bad defense, we have bad teams, we have tanking. We're going to see teams overtly tank as hard as they possibly can. And the three point shot is like, why can't someone hit 20 threes in a game? Yeah, this is, that's coming, that's come. I, I, I, that, that is coming at some point and we'll have to reckon with it.
Bomani Jones
I'm sorry, man. I don't consider myself to be no kind of hater or anything like that, but I'll kidney punch you first. Like, there's just no, there's just, there's just no. Like, I just, I just can't, I just can't abide by. I have been accused at points in my life of taking myself too seriously and I don't think I take Myself, too, seriously. But I tell you this right now, I ain't no joke. You know what I'm saying? Like, this is not like the Wizards. Somebody gotta come out here and just decide they've had enough. Yeah, of course, every now and then, somebody has a moment where they decide they've had enough, and it goes too far. Do you remember that time that DeAndre Jordan dunked on Brandon Knight so bad that he knocked him out the sky, but it was entirely Brandon Knight trying to prove that the Pistons wasn't no joke? And it turned out they were. They were a riot, in fact. Yeah, they were. They were uproarious, if we're being perfectly honest. But I wouldn't have said none of this last night. You know what I'm saying? I'd have done nothing to take away from his joy. Like, he should feel like he scored 83 points. That being said, I have to get back to this Kobe Stan thing.
Danny Parkins
Please.
Bomani Jones
I don't know if you have seen the tweets from the Kobe Stans.
Danny Parkins
I have.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
You know the algorithm is pumping out that.
Bomani Jones
That rage, huh?
Danny Parkins
It sure is. I've seen it all, BO.
Bomani Jones
They are furious. This is amazing. Right?
Danny Parkins
I read it in the Wind Horse story. I didn't see this yet, but they booed.
Bomani Jones
They booed.
Danny Parkins
They booed at Crypto last night.
Bomani Jones
They booed. They booed. I would actually love to know what Kobe would passive aggressively snidely say about this if he were here.
Danny Parkins
Only took me 20 free throws.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, just a waiter. Like, just. But this Kobe state, like, the memory of Kobe is so important, obviously, Right? Kobe passing, you know, contributes or adds to it. But I've seen people imply that there was a conspiracy to just keep sending Bam to the lie to give this record or whatever. No, this was just a lot of weird stuff came together at the same time to create this moment.
Danny Parkins
Do. Do you think we will now? Like, because this got celebrated. I mean, LeBron, Katie, Giannis, like, I saw the who's who.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
Of NBA greatness immediately throw their arms around this. And again, Bam is a likable dude, their teammate on Team usa.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
Great backstory, all that stuff. Do you think we're going to, like, we got 15 games left, 18 games left, depending on the team in a regular season where about a third of the league is tanking.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. Will somebody try it?
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
If.
Danny Parkins
How. If what happened last night is celebrated and is just, like, immediately embraced, you just Google. I do. I googled Bam autobio today just before we came on just to like, you know, the top five headlines some straight news stories, like, recap, he scores 83. Miami Star scores 83. Then the other three, the other three that come up of the five, Bam out of bio scores 83 points. Stop complaining about free throws and just appreciate greatness. Celebrate. Bam out of bios 83 point game. Don't debate its merits. Bam out of bio rode free throws to 83 points. But there's little shame in it. Like, it just. Everyone is just immediately.
Bomani Jones
There is a concerted effort. I think it is in part to the pushback of the tendency post all Star around All Star every year to talk about what's wrong right now.
Danny Parkins
That's what I alluded to with the KD thing of like. But I promise you, you can love basketball and still debate these things on merits.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, this is. This is. This is a wild shit.
Danny Parkins
Wild. This is some wild, right? Bam out of bio averages 4 1/2 free throws A. Last night he shot 43.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. You know, like, this would actually be better if Bam wasn't so good. Like, if this was somebody.
Danny Parkins
Like, if Kobe white.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Right. Because then it becomes more of a Rudy story.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
And then nobody says anything bad about it because it's just good for him. It'll never be like this again. Da, da, da. Whatever. Like, Bam got a girlfriend. We like. He bet he got gold medals. You know what I'm saying? He went to Kentucky. Like this. It's not. Yeah, it doesn't. There's a world in which it feels a little better and a little different. But no, I'm with you. You're not going to get me on a. You just hate the NBA because all those people that do that. Well, my response is, but, you know, I don't hate the NBA. So now what? And then they don't have anything to respond to. Right. Like, it is strawman construction in large part. And I also think, like, writing something that jumps out preemptively telling people not to dislike it. Because let me tell you this too. Kobe fans are coming. They put your car on blocks. They don't care. Like, you gonna tell them not to do this. Like, no, no, no. And Kobe's 81 is still going to be. Kobe's 81 gonna be like, for old white people with bay roof. 714 was like, yeah, I heard somebody broke that. But 714, boy, it got a ring to it. Yeah.
Danny Parkins
And I don't like to be lumped with the old whites, but I kind of agree.
Bomani Jones
Well, I'll put it like this. How many people know how many home runs Barry Bonds finished with? Right? More people know. I bet you it's 762. But I bet you more people know 755.
Danny Parkins
Yep, exactly.
Bomani Jones
Than they know 762. Like, you know. And I think that is probably what's going to happen. But no, he'll look, it's not. The other thing about this, too, is you can put together a highlight package that that then becomes the defining memory. Cause I don't know if you remember the worst officiated game in the history of American professional sports, but in the 1997 National League championship Series, Levon Hernandez, I believe, I can't remember if it was 15 or 17 strikeouts where all he had to do was throw the ball in the motherfucking stadium and Eric Gregg was just punching him up. Right. Just going for it. And they made a 30 for 30 about the Hernandez brothers, Levon and El Duques. And I went to the premiere that it was in Miami, and, you know, it was super Cuban in there, Right? So I'm just surrounded by all these people who think this moment for Levon is historic. And me, Braves fan is seething and furious. I'm hating every minute of it. But I watched the way they chopped that up, man. You would never know they was cheating.
Danny Parkins
Movement on those pitches. Guys, guys were chasing. Yeah, yeah.
Bomani Jones
You never know they was cheating for the way they chopped that up. So you chop up 83, you know, saying you can, you can turn it into a thing.
Danny Parkins
And again, 43 in the first half, right? Like, I, I, that is something that.
Bomani Jones
It.
Danny Parkins
Again, it hit that my group chat of NBA fan friends at halftime, like, you know what I mean? Like, he. It was a, it was a great night that got greatly ridiculous. But both can be true. Yeah, we can, we can, we can, we can speak truth to both parts of the story.
Bomani Jones
But I also, I also tell you this. There's a little short stretch of time about 10, 12 years ago where Phil Jackson and I were Twitter buddies.
Danny Parkins
Nice.
Bomani Jones
And he made a point to me about Kobe and Kobe taking all that shots and was like, let's just say the number was 40. He's just basically like, let me tell you something. What's really hard to do to take 40 shots, like the effort it takes to Simply put up 40 shots. Bam. Put up 40 shots and 40 free throws, right? That. You know what that's like? That's like playing 36 holes of golf. And everybody who thinks that golf don't take no effort of golf ain't hard work. Go out there and swing that club 150 times.
Danny Parkins
Yeah. And that's if you're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and. And walk the eight miles.
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
And be outdoors and in the sun and all that stuff. Yeah. No like abs. Absolutely. Right now. Now we hold professional athletes to the standard of being able to do it, but I am quite sure that Bam was tired after that game.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. No, no. There's a lot of dudes in the league that could not put up 40 shots if it came to him. Like, it's just, it is a thing. But coming coming up next, you guys may have heard that the Max Crosby trade guy rescinded, but in real time. I'm going to give Danny Parkins some news he can use. Ever wanted to go to the NBA Finals? Well, now's your chance. Courtesy of FanDuel. All you have to do is use your profit boost on an NBA future and you'll be entered for a shot to win an NBA Finals trip for two NBA futures. Let you lock in your pick for who you think will go all the way, whether it's a team to win the championship or a conference title. Visit FanDuel.com Bomani to get started. Play your game with FanDuel, official sports betting partner of the NBA 21 plus
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Bomani Jones
All right, we are back with Danny Parkins. So it appears that the Raiders sold the ra the Ravens a lemon, right? Like yeah, yeah. I mean look, the Ravens generally new to Carfax on Max Crosby. And let's be honest, 29 years old coming off a meniscus tear, trading two first round picks which sounds like was more than anybody else was offering was a lot to throw out there apparently just so I can set it up for the people. Crosby gets to the Ravens, they do the physical and they decide that he a little too danged up. They still had their receipt and so they returned Max Crosby to cinder. Okay, now there's been a lot of discussion around sending Max Crosby back to sender the ethics of it from the Ravens. I am curious where you fall on that.
Danny Parkins
Well, listen, if you, if you traded two first round picks for somebody and then you do your medicals and you think that he. The medicals don't look good to you like that, that, that's within the, it's with, it's within the rules.
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
You know, like if it was. My team was rich. Rich Eisen said the Bears also offered two first round picks and like if, if they got, if they, the Bears did it a couple years ago now. It was a free agent sign. They signed Larry Ogan Joby to a big deal and then he flunked his physical and they took away his like 40 million bucks that they gave to this defensive tackle. And Larry Ogan Joby never had a good year the rest of his career. And I'm like really glad that my team didn't, you know, throw, you know, good money after bad. So like it's within the right. They can do it. But what I think is very fishy about this is no one was ever claiming that Max Crosby was cleared to play if there was a football game tomorrow. He had knee surgery. He, he, the, the Raiders shut him down at the end of last year. Now Crosby was reportedly furious about that. Cause he wanted to play through it. And this is a meniscus, not a full, you know, ACL reconstruction or anything like that. So like you can, you can grind it out and play through. But like he had knee surgery within the last few months. No one is claiming that if there was a football game tomorrow he could play. The question is, is he on track to fully recover from this? The Raiders say yes. The Ravens ev evidently say no. But like you traded for a dude coming off knee surgery who hasn't been.
Bomani Jones
Who. Right.
Danny Parkins
Who has not been cleared to play. So like you knew that when you traded for him. So is it within the rules? Yes, but is, it's beyond fishy. And I would be furious if I were the Raiders and I can period. Next paragraph. This I said on Monday after the trade to Brew who's a Ravens guy. I was like this is an overpay. Like historically it's an overpay. All of the trades of multiple first round picks for non quarterbacks. Sauce Gardner, Micah Parsons, Laramie Tunsil, Jalen Ramsey, Khalil Mack, like all of Those guys are 25, 26 years old and Max Crosby's 29 coming off of knee surgery. So it was an incredibly risky trade just based on the age of Crosby. So now to flunk his physical. And if they turn around and sign Trey Hendrickson, oh, boy, the league is going to be furious.
Bomani Jones
Well, what if I told you that the news you could use that I teased for you earlier.
Danny Parkins
Oh, no.
Bomani Jones
Four years, $112 million. Trey Hendrickson to the Ravens.
Danny Parkins
Oh, no way. Is that real?
Bomani Jones
Yes. I was sitting here the whole way, letting you set up the fish case, and I was going to be like, well, what if I told you. Oh, my God, dude. Look, man, let me tell you this as somebody who has taken a job and then turned it down because something else happened. Right. I know exactly what happened here.
Danny Parkins
Absolutely.
Bomani Jones
They were like, you don't say, huh? But.
Danny Parkins
Oh, wow. Okay. Well, I mean, that is. Listen, like, I mean, hilarious for having no. No dog in the fight for rooting for it. But, like, that absolutely needs to be investigated. You can't.
Bomani Jones
That.
Danny Parkins
You can't do that.
Bomani Jones
But the trade isn't official, so you can always turn back around. Like, sometimes people just got to be mad at you.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, sure, sure, sure. But if you want people to do business with you in the future.
Bomani Jones
I agree. I agree. I agree. I fully agree with you. It's a bad way to play it. You'll never do a deal with Max Crosby's agent ever again.
Danny Parkins
You might never do a deal with the Ravens again. Like, if you. Because if you are getting out of it through the prism of, well, he flunked his physical. But that's not the actual thing like that. That's bad business, man. Business. That's an F. But at the same
Bomani Jones
time, is there a sliding scale on physicals? And what I mean by that is what has happened in the past in different sports is the physical has been failed and then the terms of the trade change. Right, right. So you could say with the physical being this, maybe it's one first round pick instead of two. The Ravens, that. I think what is most suspicious is that the Ravens completely bailed. It sounds like. I have not read anything or seen anything that implies that there was an attempt at a renegotiation, which is something that was on the board. They got out, and instead in free agency signed damn near the same player.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, I mean, a couple years older, but.
Bomani Jones
But not coming off a meniscus.
Danny Parkins
But not coming off of meniscus surgery. That is. That is wild. And yet, listen, the point of, like, sometimes people just have to be mad at you because you have to operate in self interest is a very, like, real practical. You. You, like, you are objectively correct and, like, would I do something that would make me unpopular if it was the. For the betterment of my wife and kids, like, obviously. But, like, this is breaking with a lot of precedent, man. It's not. It's not how you do. It's not. The trade is not official until the new league year starts. So, yes, you can rescind it. Yes, you're allowed to rescind it for a physical, but to then turn around also before the new year, new league year starts. Like, the. Things are obviously connected. Like, no one is going to be able to conclude that the Ravens just found themselves having interest in. In Trey Hendrickson after the. Crosby after they failed him on the physical. They're going to. They're. Everyone is going to say, my guess is correctly. Oh, we realized we could just get this dude for just money and keep our picks. And then they went ahead and did it. Yeah.
Bomani Jones
And by the way, the who whole league was furious immediately. Nobody in the league entertained the possibility. It's from. From all the stuff that we're seeing from reporters that the entire league, which tells me apparently Boston, Baltimore been out here living janky in other ways. Right? Like, I mean, just. Just Lock and Ford came out there and just said basically that they have a fraud of a general manager or like, you know, the people are running this. This is. They are being. And this is after everybody had always had so much positive to say about them. Right? Like, we have seen them as a model organization. Diana Rossini, by the way, sent the tweet, and I'm going to read it word for word. It's been made clear by multiple people around the NFL at all levels that Baltimore had all the information and understood where Max Crosby's knee was in terms of his recovery timeline. Many in the league believe GM Eric DaCosta and the Ravens ultimately just got cold feet. Yes. Jakey, man, ain't no way around it.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
Like, that. That is going to be. You know, it's not. It's not the exact same as like, the Chris Paul trade when the. When the league stepped in. But it's like, who. That. That. That smells. Yeah, like that.
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Danny Parkins
That. Like there's something going on there and it just doesn't sit right with you. That doesn't sit right with me at all. And I have to, like, take a little bit of a moment here to put my finger on it, but, like, it's just basically like, you dishonest. Yeah, it's dishonest. And like, Trey Hendrickson was also available when you traded for Max Crosby. It's like what new piece of information could there really be? Like, you got a world renowned surgeon, it's a minor surgery. Like, he's got the best work ethic of like everyone's like, well, Max Crosby, he's the edge rusher who doesn't come off the field. He plays all three downs. His character. Is this his motor? Is this his locker room? Like, he's like, is there any doubt that Max Crosby is going to recover from a meniscus cleanup? Like, I just, I don't know. That is a, that is a wild way to do business, man.
Bomani Jones
Well, also, do you call Trey Hendrickson and does Trey Hendrickson call you? Like at what point in the process did that really get going? Because I mean, I just don't believe that out of nowhere at the end they call Trey Hendrickson. Was it a matter of you've made this trade and then somehow you wind up on the phone with Trey Henderson and now you believe that that is attainable and you're like,
Danny Parkins
but like Trey Hendrickson. We have known Trey Hendrickson was going to be available this offseason.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, but they didn't know they was going to see. Yeah, but they didn't know they was going to get them.
Danny Parkins
No, they did not.
Bomani Jones
And maybe that's it. Like, I don't know, like there's, there are moving parts here that are just like in the end nobody's going to care. Right? But it is, but this is a, it's such a great in the moment story, right? Just like how in the world. This was the biggest story coming off the weekend. Trades being rescinded generally are a great topic. This is different though because it was a guy getting traded for picks and we know that guy is not still going to be there. I was in Houston with the all time rescinded trade when the Rockets traded Robert Ory to Detroit and for Sean Elliott and Sean Elliott failed to physical because of a kidney situation and then Orey had to come back. Like, we don't really got one of those.
Danny Parkins
We like I listen. I mean the Raiders also spent a gripload of money in free agency and like there's cap ramifications and you know, they, they, they were like, we are going to, you know, we're going to sign Naylor from Minnesota, obviously Linderbaum from Baltimore. We're going to sign to Kobe Dean on defense. We're going to. And we have the 14th pick and all of a sudden new Coach, you like 60% of your offensive line. You got your tight end, you got your running back, you're bringing in a quarterback like this blows up their whole plan. Like, who does Max Crosby play for this year?
Bomani Jones
We just know it ain't the Raiders.
Danny Parkins
Say again?
Bomani Jones
We just know it ain't the Raiders.
Danny Parkins
It seems impossible for him to go back, but if you're going to trade Max Crosby for two firsts, and one of those, first is the 14th pick in the draft, like, that is a, that is a premium draft.
Bomani Jones
Oh, yeah, they getting that.
Danny Parkins
No, no, no. Like, but like, bargain. Like, is he going for a second round pick now?
Bomani Jones
I think like maybe like a one and a three.
Danny Parkins
Okay. I mean, I guess. But if he go, if he gets traded for a premium haul like that, which is still a lot of draft capital, and the other team has no problem passing him on his physical. I, I just don't know how the Ravens come out. Like, they're going to have some tough questions to answer, man. They're going to have. They're going to have some. Because, like, again, he should not be. He is not cleared to play football. You traded for a player who is off crutches, who is off surgery, who should not be able to play. How can you fail him on his physical? You can't be like, well, he couldn't run the 40 or he couldn't do the three cone drill. Like, he's recovering from surgery. His surgeon says he's good to go. What are we talking about here? That's very weird to me, man.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, boy. There's nothing like what? People just think you're janky.
Danny Parkins
You're. Yeah, yeah, you're. Yeah.
Bomani Jones
Ain't nobody gonna try to talk to you at the combine next year.
Danny Parkins
Yeah. And listen, again, you're right. You have to operate in your own self interest. But that is, that is dirty pool, man.
Bomani Jones
No, no, there's nothing quite like, though, when you understand something might be dirty pool and you're like, but how to do it? You gotta make the call. And you're like, hey, so about that. Yeah, I know. Yeah, yeah.
Danny Parkins
Hey, hey, you're making, you're making some fair points.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah. You're making it worse, man. You know, like, like, like, hey, just, just, just let me finish. Just, just, just let me finish. And then you can say whatever you
Danny Parkins
want and then I will listen. Right. And then we'll hang up the phone and I don't expect for us to talk again for a long time.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, it'd be a whole lot of you. Right.
Danny Parkins
You're right. That's fair.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, I, I hear you.
Danny Parkins
Yeah. Yeah, no, that's a good point.
Bomani Jones
Look, nobody's saying you're wrong here.
Danny Parkins
I understand where you're coming from.
Bomani Jones
I would feel the exact same way.
Danny Parkins
I just. I just had to do it. Hopefully one day you'll understand.
Bomani Jones
Sometimes it's gotta it be like that sometimes. Yeah, you know.
Danny Parkins
You know how it is.
Bomani Jones
Oh my goodness gracious. This is, this is gonna. I. We talked about this the other day. It's gonna be such an interesting NFL season because like it's wide open. Everything everywhere feels wide open, like even. And you think about the nfc. On one hand, super bowl champions loaded. On the other hand, the quarterback Sam Darnold still on the board. You know what I mean?
Danny Parkins
Yeah. You know, I got one more for you. How about what a come up for Trey Hendrickson?
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
Trey Hendrickson gets to stay in the AFC north and stick it to Cincinnati who he feels like have like underpaid and so all I have to do is have more sacks over the last three years than like Micah Parsons and Aiden Hutchinson. And you cheap bastards are only willing to pay me a year at a time.
Bomani Jones
Yes.
Danny Parkins
And like a crown jewel until this organization in the league decided at 30, whatever years old, 31, 32 years old, I was worth $112 million. Like he is going to do. He is going to. His 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty when he sacks Joe Burrow is going to be earned.
Bomani Jones
Look, man, he was like, I've been, I've been playing for the Spirit Airlines of the NFL. Right now this is what a real airline feels like. Huh? Ain't that something?
Danny Parkins
Yeah, yeah. So sorry, I just had to get one more off there. But no, to, to the wide open point, I think one of the cool things about this upcoming season and it's the NFL, there's always a million great storylines, but like as we sit here in the second week of March,
Bomani Jones
a
Danny Parkins
lot of teams are all in. Yeah, like Baltimore doing this is like an all in move. Buffalo doing the DJ Moore thing is a let's push our chips in move. The Rams just, they've been one first round draft pick in the last like literally eight drafts. Yeah, hit it out of the park with the Jared Verse pick. But they're like, oh, we need to rebuild our secondary. No problem. We'll do that in one off season. Trade first round pick, biggest contract ever for a cornerback, sign a couple more DBs, like got a 38 year old quarterback. So, you know, effort. Let's go all in. The Steelers, it looks like are going to run it back with Rogers, which is ridiculous. But whatever.
Bomani Jones
Like.
Danny Parkins
But like there are. It's just a lot of teams that are pushing chips into the middle to go try to win this super bowl because Lamar has never been to one. Josh has never been to one. Stafford's year to year. So I think that component of it and those are three of the. The Rams are the favorite and the Ravens and the Bills are the two favorite. The two of the top five favorites of the Super Bowl. The biggest super bowl favorites are hemorrhaging or mortgaging a lot of their future for this year which I think is just always adds like a degree of excitement and like it makes whichever. They all can't win the super bowl. So whichever one loses it makes it that much more painful.
Bomani Jones
It is also an interesting year because the quarterback draft situation isn't really strong.
Danny Parkins
Yeah.
Bomani Jones
And so we are seeing at least what feels to me. I guess I'm operating anecdotally here. But more movement from I quarterbacks that aren't that easy to come by. Like Kyler Murray. I quarterback. There ain't a lot of I quarterbacks that are really out here. Right. Like what happened with Atlanta wherever Kyle. Like I say, I think people should be fighting to go get Kyler Murray. Like looking at what's available and where people are standing. If Daniel Jones they didn't get 50 million in the culture, like you'll have to settle for 37. There's a lot of money out there to be made. This is like a kind of sort of regular dude out there. Like everybody's trying something. The Dolphins are trying something with Malik Willis. Like everybody is given something a goat.
Danny Parkins
I will be floored if Kyler Murray isn't a Viking. Like that one just makes too much sense to me. J.J. mcCarthy, you know, you'll. You'll trade him and swing in a mess.
Bomani Jones
Look, I don't understand what the Cardinals are doing. Like I like what is the likelihood that the Cardinals are going to wind up with a quarterback better than Murray?
Danny Parkins
I mean next year zero. Yeah yeah, yeah. Ne next year zero. And I mean you hired Michael Floor. You have some nice pieces on offense.
Bomani Jones
Yeah.
Danny Parkins
I mean listen, they. They chose Jacoby Brissette over Kyler. They did down the stretch of last year. And it looks like Jacoby's going to get to run it back.
Bomani Jones
So he is the replacement player. Right. Like he is the definition of. Of the. The replacement quarterback. We talked about this on the show about Kyler going to the Vikings where I think that should be where he Goes. But good gracious, don't you want a quarterback somebody likes?
Danny Parkins
Well, yeah, probably. But don't you want a quarterback if you just give them. Who cares if you like them if you just give them decent quarterback play?
Bomani Jones
Oh yeah. A Super bowl contender.
Danny Parkins
Super bowl contender.
Bomani Jones
Right. You're right about that. Look, they went from a bad quarterback, a bad quarterback that nobody likes, to a good quarterback that nobody likes. If they make the move to Murray.
Danny Parkins
Right. So I'll take that one.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah. No question. It's the move.
Danny Parkins
Like, like two years ago they won 14 games with Sam Darnold. Like Brian Flores, because of reasons can't get a head coaching job. So he's just there still with a top defense in the NFL. Like with, with Justin Jefferson, with that coach. Like they, they, they have to, they have to make that.
Bomani Jones
Well, I'd say this people must really like Kevin O' Connell because if you got Brian Flores, JJ McCarthy and Kyler Murray, like somebody's got to like somebody in this building. Good gracious.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true.
Bomani Jones
Damn. Like, like they just, they just. Bottom line, it's a bottom line oriented operation over there.
Danny Parkins
That's. That, that is an excellent point. Do you think, and I know we've talked a little bit about Mendoza in
Bomani Jones
the past,
Danny Parkins
so all of a sudden, not a terrible situation to go to.
Bomani Jones
On one hand, you are correct. On the other hand, it's still the Raiders.
Danny Parkins
Still the Raiders.
Bomani Jones
And it's a lot of weird stuff going on over there still.
Danny Parkins
No, no doubt. But all of a sudden it's like, okay, you just signed, you know, a top two or three center in football. Got a good left tackle, got one good guard, got a good running back, got a good tight end. Got an offensive.
Bomani Jones
Got an excellent tight end.
Danny Parkins
Yeah, yeah. I mean, best tight end in football. Got an offensive head coach who's a play caller who just did his thing with Darnold. Like the team's not going to be good, but like the, the, the goal is if you're going to draft a quarterback number one overall and play him immediately like that, you have to at least be putting him into a situation where you can get a fair evaluation of him. Yeah, I think that offense, we've seen situations that are worse.
Bomani Jones
Yeah. I think they can find a way to not have to play him immediately. To be honest, I, I would have kept Gino if I were in their situation. That's the thing.
Danny Parkins
Right. Like after you lose Gino. I don't know.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, that.
Danny Parkins
You know, Cousins, I guess. I, I I don't, I don't know. I, I don't know who you play over. The number one pick when he's a pro style, you know, 22, 23 year old kid. By the time of next year comes around like, I just, I'll be, I, I, I think he's going to be a week one starter.
Bomani Jones
I think you're right. I mean they, they should be two games better just because what they were doing last year is not what they were doing this year. Like it was full on chaos over there. Now some of the chaos is gone because Pete was a cause of some of the chaos with his son coaching the offensive line. The Chip Kelly situation. Right. But the other part of the chaos is Tom Brady and Alex Guerrero and whatever they do with that operation.
Danny Parkins
Oh, it's still a, it's still a story. It's still a. And, and you're right, it's still the Raiders. But I just feel like Fernando Mendoza likes his situation now better. Yes, but better. Better than he did when the college football season ended.
Bomani Jones
Yes. I also just want to remind people right fast about Alex Guerrero. And Alex Guerrero is Tom Brady's like medicine man. But let us not Forget this. In 2005, Guerrero was sanctioned by the United States Federal Trade Commission for falsely presenting himself as a doctor and claiming to be able to cure cancer, aids, multiple scleros, diabetes, arthritis and Parkinson's disease. You and using a dietary supplement called Supreme Greens. That's from the wiki. And that happened. That's, that's the man behind TB12.
Danny Parkins
Man, people will really buy into anything.
Bomani Jones
Hey, man, pliability. Pliability. I guess that's what they figured out, man. But that's is Danny Parkins. Check him out. First things first, 5pm Eastern on FS1. My brother. I appreciate you, Bo.
Danny Parkins
This was fun, man.
Bomani Jones
Yeah, man, this is great. Like I say, there are days where you just want to feel like it's back to radio, right?
Danny Parkins
Hell yeah.
Bomani Jones
This is it. Like, no, we don't need a seven minute block to try to fill this. Nah, dawg, that was great.
Danny Parkins
I'll talk to you soon, buddy.
Bomani Jones
Appreciate it, man. And ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumley handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Remember, hit the voicemail line. 323-59-67767. Follow the right time. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater and we'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.
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In this episode, Bomani Jones welcomes Danny Parkins to break down two of the hottest topics in sports: Bam Adebayo's astonishing (and controversial) 83-point NBA game, and the dramatic turn of events involving the Baltimore Ravens reversing the Max Crosby trade and signing Trey Hendrickson. Together, they dissect the context, ethics, and significance of these stories, adding their trademark wit and perspective on unwritten sports rules, fan reactions, and league-wide consequences.
Key Banter & Quotes
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This episode encapsulates what Bomani and Danny do best: ground major sports stories in their real context, dig into the nuances behind the headlines, and invite listeners to think beyond the box score. It’s equal parts sports nerd debate, industry insight, and loving ribbing of the bizarre world of records, unwritten rules, and front office gamesmanship.