Danny Parkins on Eagles put Jalen Hurts on notice. Wembanyama's MVP case, Lakers title chances | 04.02

Summary

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The Right Time with Bomani Jones

Episode: Danny Parkins on Eagles put Jalen Hurts on notice. Wembanyama's MVP case, Lakers title chances
Date: April 2, 2026
Host: Bomani Jones
Guest: Danny Parkins (FS1, First Things First)

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Episode Overview

In this highly engaging episode, Bomani Jones is joined by Danny Parkins to tackle intriguing storylines from the NFL and NBA. The conversation starts with a deep dive into Jalen Hurts’ tenuous standing with the Philadelphia Eagles, fueled by a recent ESPN exposé. The discussion then transitions to the remarkable ascendance of Victor Wembanyama in the NBA and the complexities of the MVP debate, before wrapping with honest takes on the Lakers, Thunder, and the current state of the NBA playoff race. The hosts blend humor, insight, and anecdotal analogies, offering listeners clear-eyed breakdowns and spirited banter.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Jalen Hurts: Leadership Under the Microscope

(00:35–27:53)

• ESPN Report Fallout: The ESPN.com story details internal Eagles concerns about Hurts’ unwillingness to adapt and chilly relationships within the organization.
  • “The Eagles are putting him on notice… a lot of people close to the Eagles did a lot of talking about what they don't like about him.” — Bomani Jones [02:02]
• Parkins’ Takeaway:
  • “I came out of it feeling worse about Jalen Hurts as a leader, but better about him as a player.” — Danny Parkins [03:55]
  • Hurts’ inflexibility is juxtaposed with his constant change in play-callers: “Sean Manion will literally be his 13th play caller in 11 years.” [04:56]
  • Parkins empathizes with Hurts’ craving for continuity but acknowledges real leadership concerns.
• Bomani’s Counterpoint:
  • Bomani questions if Hurts is the reason play-callers keep churning, and cites past examples at Alabama and Oklahoma that suggest passing limitations have followed Hurts throughout his career.
  • Hurts’ refusal to adapt (e.g., resistance to motions, play action) is contrasted with the growth of legends: “Kobe didn't have that post game when he first got into the league. That footwork got better… Kobe would go out there and add this piece to my game.” — Bomani Jones [11:12]
• Notable Analogy:
  • Bomani: “You can tell a lot about somebody’s lifestyle by eating chicken with them… Jalen Hurts is leaving that chicken on the bone. He hasn’t had to go down to the gristle.” [21:10]
• AJ Brown Trade Chatter: Both hosts feel the Eagles would be making a huge mistake trading away Brown and note the team's win-now mindset.
• Leadership & Legacy:
  • The two reflect on Hurts’ mentality: “It’s delusional arrogance, which we’ve seen from athletes… but you can look through the prism of Oklahoma, Alabama, Philly sports fans, two Super Bowls, besting Mahomes — I’d probably be pretty arrogant too.” — Parkins [23:31]

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2. Victor Wembanyama: MVP Case and NBA Ascendance

(31:41–43:46)

• Wemby’s Dominance:
  • Danny Parkins: “He’s arguably the best defensive player I’ve ever seen play the sport. He’s certainly the most singular. Last night… 41 and 18 in 28 minutes. What the fuck am I supposed to do with 41 and 18 in 28 minutes?” [32:15]
  • Bomani: “There wasn’t no need to overthink this one. It is exactly what it is.” [31:41]
• MVP Complexities:
  • While Wembanyama may be the “best player in the world,” Parkins is inclined to vote for Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (SGA) this year, citing his elite offensive numbers and team record despite injuries.
  • Bomani reminds listeners about Nikola Jokic's statistical marvel, leading in rebounds and assists, and averaging a triple double.
  • The hosts agree: SGA is the reasonable choice for MVP, but acknowledge a narrative-driven campaign for Wembanyama.
• Narrative MVPs:
  • “Victor’s case is a narrative case… Look at what I’ve changed just by being Victor Wembanyama. Look at these other dudes — you don’t know who they are.” — Bomani [37:56]
• Wemby’s Future:
  • Parkins: “Maybe the rules just do not apply to him… Maybe not when you’re autographing your All Star game jersey for Joker and he asks you to add a picture of an alien to it.” [39:23]

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3. NBA Playoff Landscape & Contenders

(43:22–51:51)

• Playoff Experience & Strategic Matchups:
  • Bomani and Parkins discuss the difference between regular season and playoff basketball, emphasizing how experience and tactical shifts matter more in long playoff series.
  • The “Tryhard Pistons” vs. Spurs: Parkins believes the Pistons’ overachieving style will hurt them in the playoffs, while the Spurs, thanks to Wemby, have a much higher ceiling if minutes restrictions are lifted.
• Western Conference Observations:
  • Deep dive into the top seeds — Thunder, Spurs, Nuggets, Lakers, Rockets, Timberwolves. Both agree Rockets and Lakers aren’t true contenders, but the path to the conference finals could be wide open.
  • “That's gonna be fun.” — Bomani, on possible Thunder-Spurs-Lakers-Nuggets semi-finals [44:45]
• Eastern Conference & Celtics:
  • Celtics are the clear top team. Parkins: “I don’t really like watching them because of how many threes they shoot. It’s a little offensive, but they are really, really good.” [45:08]
• Lakers Title Chances:
  • Parkins compares current Lakers supporting cast to previous Mavs teams, wonders if it can hold up two months: “The Lakers are right now getting a pretty incredible amount of effort and production... I don't know that both of those things are going to survive two months of playoff basketball.” [47:21]
  • Bomani: “For [the Lakers] to win, it requires literally depending on Deandre Ayton, and I’ve seen how that goes.” [46:37]
• Thunder’s Defense:
  • Parkins: “They don’t put a single player who’s bad at defense. Every single player who gets minutes for them is a two-way basketball player… If you can’t guard, you can’t play here.” [49:27]
  • Bomani agrees that championship experience will matter, and notes the Thunder were pushed last year: “They were Tyrese Halliburton’s Achilles away from potentially losing a Game 7 at home.” [50:22]

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4. Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On leadership & self-perception:
  • Bomani: “Only Michael Jordan could act like that and pass it off as leadership, because he's Michael fucking Jordan…” [09:36]
• On Hurts’ stubbornness:
  • “We are asking you to do the things that are hard for you. And he's like, nope, I'm going to do the thing that people do in high school.” — Bomani [11:47]
• Wembanyama’s uniqueness:
  • Parkins: “He is a singular thing and it's wild... If his body holds up, he could win 15 defensive player of the year awards and 10 titles.” [40:24]
• Free throws as a measure of elite play:
  • Bomani: “The best shot in basketball is a free throw… Great players get to the free throw line.” [48:04]

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5. Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment | |-------------|----------------------------------------------| | 00:35–27:53 | Eagles put Hurts on notice — deep analysis | | 31:41–43:46 | Wembanyama’s MVP case and NBA impact | | 43:22–47:32 | Playoff landscape—top contenders, matchups | | 47:32–50:22 | Lakers/Thunder playoff prospects & defense | | 50:22–51:51 | Market dynamics, NBA rivalry outlook | | 51:51–53:47 | Wrap up, FS1 Emmy nomination, sign-off banter|

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Conclusion

This episode is a rich, unfiltered examination of football and basketball’s most compelling personalities and teams. Bomani Jones and Danny Parkins bring clarity and entertainment as they dissect Jalen Hurts’ leadership, Wembanyama’s fledgling greatness, and the jostling of a wild NBA playoff race. With sharp analogies, real talk, and signature humor, it’s a standout listen for fans craving context and commentary beyond the box score.

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Transcript

[Danny Parkins]

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[Bomani Jones]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time A Wave original. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is Parko on a Thursday, man. I got to figure out something clever for this last day of the week. But Danny Parkins, FS1 first things first. What's going on, man?

[Danny Parkins]

Chilling.

[Bomani Jones]

Bo.

[Danny Parkins]

Always love to get the invite, man. Good to hang out with you and feel like. People talk about like this is a slow time of the sports calendar. There's a ton of shit going on.

[Bomani Jones]

No, no, no, no, no. This is not the slow time.

[Danny Parkins]

This has been great.

[Bomani Jones]

The slow time is July. Actually, it's August. July. At least at the beginning you get like NBA free agency. No, no, no, no. We got an NCAA tournament that that's actually interesting. I'm not going to be here for this, but the Masters is coming up and for people who are able to talk about that on their shows, depending on audience and format, you got that. Then after that we go into the play in tournament and then after that we go into two months of the NBA playoffs where we got something to talk about every night and we don't ever sleep. But even with all of that happening, the NFL still finds a way to. Oh, that's right. The draft is coming up for people who do that kind of thing. But first, did you see this story on ESPN.com about Jaylen Herz that was written by Jeremy Fowler and Tim McManus, who is not to be confused with Tim McMahon. Now they you and I have talked many times about the interesting space that Jaylen Herze and habits where neither of us think he's necessarily that good. Except for those two times that he outplayed Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl. Okay, right. Like, was he that good in college? I don't know. Except for when he was SEC player of the year as a freshman at Heisman Trophy, runner up as a senior. We don't always know what to do with him. But this story was interesting because Dominic Foxworth, I think said it best on his end where he was like, the Eagles are putting him on notice. That was a lot of people close to the Eagles who did a lot of talking about what they don't like about him. And the big thing that came across to me was a certain rigidity in the way that he wants to play it as they try to add new things to the offense. And Jalen Hurts is like, nah, nah, I don't do that. Like we gonna keep doing the things that I do. Changing plays that the coaches have called in the huddle, which some coaches have to meet, some quarterbacks have the liberty to do, but so forth and so on. But it all felt to me in reading it like the Eagles are like, all right, we're going to try this one more year.

[Danny Parkins]

I agree with you. The it's a lot of sourcing. They're good reporters. You first see a story like that drop and you know, the journalist in me is like, ooh, is this like Kevin Patulo sour grapes? He got fired and then he's like leaking some stuff. But then based on how some of those sources were described, they were still presently on the team. So I'm like, okay, there's this is, this was well reported and it's present and we should take it seriously. I came out of it feeling worse about Jalen Hurts as a leader, but better about him as a player.

[Bomani Jones]

Interesting.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah. And I did not expect that. Like my perception of Jalen Hurts was 10 out of 10 leader like gamer Jordan Brand said the right things, clutch, stoic, all that. That was my perception before you read the article. But then when it's like doesn't have great relationships with many people on the team and the people that he did have relationships with on the team have been frayed. That there's like observationally not as many like post game conversations with his wide receivers or his offensive linemen being resistant to motions and you know, more modern NFL offensive trends that he not only is a Jordan Brand ambassador, but then he fancies himself a bit of a Jordan or Kobe esque leader. And it's like, buddy, I'm sorry but like you're not Jordan or Kobe just because you have the one super bowl mvp. So that level of inflexibility in his leadership when you need to be a quarterback who is the leader to all people. I actually found myself downgrading the leadership side of it. But the reason why I upgraded the football side a little bit and I've known This, and I've said this on First Things first and I've done the graphic with all of the names and I know you know this. He literally has had more offensive coordinators and play callers than he has had years of college and NFL football. This is true. It is a staggering thing because he had interims, he had guys fired in the year. Some guys get promoted to be head coaches, other guys get fired, hired. Sean Manion will literally be his 13th play caller in 11 years. That is a mind boggling thing when you talk to like one of the big talking points in Chicago where I'm from this offseason is like we can't wait to see what Caleb Williams will do in year two of Ben Johnson just having like two years of continuity and Jalen Hurts. There was the source who talked about how he craves consistency. He craves. His best year came when it was year two of Shane Steichen where he had the back to back years. And it does feel reasonable on a human level to if every single year of football you're getting new ideas thrown at you. This is my system, this is my way of doing things. This is my terminology. This is what I believe works. And you're Jalen Hurts and you're like, buddy, you might be gone in 10 months. And I have been SEC Player of the Year, Heisman runner up, Super Bowl MVP, have the best winning percentage in the history of the Philadelphia Eagles. I could see how even though it is like the correct thing to play or listen to, coach, I could see how you would have some rigidity to it in be resistant to change when you are constantly being inundated with change.

[Bomani Jones]

So I think those all at the very least sound like fair points.

[Danny Parkins]

Okay, shoot it down please.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, and I'm not here to shoot. Right. But these are my questions about that because I, I also understand the idea of continuity, right. That having the same guy two years in a row goes a long way. I don't know enough specifically about the changes from year to year. For example, with the Eagles going from Doug Peterson to Sirianni, yeah, you're going to have changes there, right? But if I'm not mistaken, is that not like Sirianni's offense and you call get the offensive coordinator in there to run your offense. So I don't, you know what I mean? I don't know how much everything changes from year to year in terms of terminology and all that stuff. Like I think some of that is nuanced though. The actual play caller part. I Do agree with the question I have, though, is part of the reason that there's a new play caller every year because he's the one getting them fired. Right.

[Danny Parkins]

Well, so. But that. So we. We touched on that a little bit yesterday. It's a unique place in the football ecosystem where it's like, we all know Jalen Hurts is kind of limited. So if you have an awesome offensive year with Jalen Hurts, the coordinator gets credit. But then if you have a bad year with Jalen Hurts, everyone's like, well, Howie Roseman's put together this awesome team. You underachieved coordinator gets fired.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. And what if, in part, coordinator gets fired because your quarterback can't be coached? And so. And so this. This. This is where I throw this out. And where. Where I'm not. I'm not fully sure what to do with it in total. But if I am not mistaken, his first year at Alabama, Lane Kiffin was running the offense. And if I'm not mistaken, that was the year that they had to send his ass home before the national championship game. 2016. Right. Because he had taken the job at Florida Atlantic.

[Danny Parkins]

Okay.

[Bomani Jones]

The next year, they brought in Brian Daboll to run that offense, and it wasn't a go. Right. Like, it wasn't cracking. I'll just point out they put Tuohy in at halftime in the national championship game, and suddenly that offense, which had quite possibly the best set of wide receivers in the history of college football, started looking like something. Right. Next year, it's a new offensive coordinator and a new play caller. Again, that did not seem to bother Tuatanga Voa a single bit. He had a season in which I think that he should have won the Heisman.

[Danny Parkins]

Like.

[Bomani Jones]

Like he was the Heisman. He was the presumptive Heisman winner all the way up until the last game of the season. And then we just said, hey, Kyler Murray, want to give it to him? Okay, cool. And. And then we went ahead and we did that with Stichen. I think it's a fair point. Two years of Steichen, second year, he gets there. Brian Johnson gets there the next year. Now it looks bad. Kellen Moore comes in. It looks okay in part because they had an offensive line that was moving furniture and a running back that ran for 2,000 yards. Is that what's going to be required to make it work for your quarterback? Not sure I blame that on changes in play calling. Where I agree with you is the idea that I came away with a poor impression of him as a leader. And I think to me, you can't lead like doing this like other people. Like, there was a portion in the article where they talked about Sirianni saying that Jalen Hurts leadership was on in line with Michael Jordan's. Only Michael Jordan could act like that and pass it off. His leadership, because he's Michael fucking Jordan. Okay? Nicole Lynn, his agent, in the same paragraph in the story, she is cited as saying that he has the work ethic of Kobe Bryant. Here's why I push back on that. I watch Kobe add to his game every single year. Kobe didn't have that post game when he first got into the league. That footwork got better. All these things that Kobe picked up and added once it hadn't been good enough. Another way, what this story is telling me is that they are asking Jalen Hurts to get better. Right? We are asking you to do the things that are hard for you. And he's like, nope, I'm going to do the thing that people do in high school. Now I'm going to stand in the shotgun where I can see everything that's going on. They specifically cited he doesn't like to turn his back on the defense and for all of our lives until the spread got to be so, so prevalent. The separation of men and boys at quarterback is your confidence and willingness to turn your back to the defense, run some play action, turn around and know what's going on. Kobe Bryant, I believe after hearing people ask you to do this, would be like, damn, I guess I need to go out there and add this piece to my game. And he has not. And apparently the Eagles are sick of that shit.

[Danny Parkins]

And the proof there is actually just straight up in the data, like, Jalen Hurts has serious limitations as a passer. You and I have talked about that multiple times on this podcast. And sitting on Nick's couch watching football like, you have A.J. brown, why can't you throw intermediate routes? Like, that's weird. He's maybe the best intermediate middle of the field receiver in football. He was like made in a lab to do that stuff over the middle. And that's not consistent. He sometimes feels like he's not willing to, like, just grip it and rip it. Doesn't fully trust what he's seeing. That I think could be tied somewhat to like mastery of an offense and consistency, but also anticipatory throwing. The best of the best can do that. He. This is a baseball analogy, but. Or like comparison. But I think you'll understand the point. I covered those Cubs teams, Javi Baez Wildly talented player, wildly flawed player. Joe Madden, the Cubs manager, used to say, if Javi Baez could learn to lay off the slider away, that looked like it was in the zone, but would be a ball every single time. If he could lay off that pitch, he would be Manny Ramirez, because, like, his ability to hit for power when the ball was in the zone was unbelievable. But he just couldn't lay off that pitch. So he was frustrated. He would make the same mistake. Same mistake, same mistake, same mistake. And Javi never wanted to work on it, and he's a flawed player. But Javi Baez has also made over $200 million playing baseball. Like, you know what I mean? Like, he's. He's got one of the best gloves, some of the best hands, some great raw power. He's a good enough athlete to be a shortstop, a second baseman, now a center fielder. It's like, you know what? Some people are just not perfect players, and they're not. They're not going to be Kobe and add the footwork, and they're not going to change because what they've done has gotten them to this incredible level.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Danny Parkins]

Jalen Hurts being Jalen Hurts has him a Super Bowl MVP and $250 million.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes, yes. You know, but this is where I'd say there's a difference. Javi Baez is a better baseball player than Jalen Hurts is a football player. Right.

[Danny Parkins]

I agree. I agree.

[Bomani Jones]

And I would ask this question. All these places that Jalen Hurts is gone. Is Jalen Hurts the SEC player of the year? And is Jalen, if he is not at Alabama, is Jalen Hurts the Heisman Trophy runner up? If he is not Oklahoma, at which the two previous guys who were there were. Were Heisman Trophy winner and Heisman Trophy winner. Okay? And Philly, man, it's right to say he. He has. My, my. My point I made when he came out of college was I've seen him not be good enough passing for two professional teams already, right? Alabama and Oklahoma. I've. I've already seen it, but what do you know? It looked basically exactly the same in the NFL as it had in college. I. I wonder, though, if outside of the fact that the Eagles are saying, look, we about to do some motion and we about to do some play action, and he gonna get on and get going. Right. I also came away from that feeling more convinced that they're not going to trade AJ Brown, because as I have said from the beginning, trading AJ Brown would be a loser move. And the Eagles do not Strike me as being losers. Right.

[Danny Parkins]

I. I agree. If you trade A.J. brown, you are worse immediately. And I agree that the Eagles seem to be in a win now mode and they are a great organization. I don't know if you put that toothpaste back in the tube, though.

[Bomani Jones]

I'm just saying I'm not trading somebody

[Danny Parkins]

for being right and that's. And that's fair. But you've got a complicated cap situation with him and his contract, and you can always extend him. And there are ways to change it going forward if you like, if you're going to choose A.J. brown in the divorce. But are you really about to go through 17 more games with A.J. brown and Jalen Hurts?

[Bomani Jones]

I'm just saying they are clearly already put Jalen hurts on the clock and I don't know if A.J. brown is or isn't going to be the issue. Look, the story also got to a point that some of us knew and hadn't really talked about, which is they went and got Brandon Graham's old ass off the radio and brought him back on the team just to have a conduit between Jalen Hurts and the rest of the team because he can't. He. He can't get it right with them. This is. I've never seen anything like this before. Because again, it gets back to what you said a little earlier though. It has gotten him to super bowl mvp. Right. It has gotten him to, to play in two Super Bowls. It's gotten him to play in two national championship games. But it's not because of him that these things have happened.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, but he doesn't believe that.

[Bomani Jones]

I know, I know. How do you fix that?

[Danny Parkins]

That's what I don't think you can, like, you know, people of. I mean, obviously he has a lot of talent like relative to the population. And so he's like, I'm the man. Yeah, of course he thinks he's the man. Yeah, he, he's. He's friends with Michael Jordan. He wears Jordan brand on his chest. He has a Super bowl trophy. He does it in the toughest sports city in America and they largely back him. But he, you know, of course he's like, I won over Philadelphia sports fans and bested Patrick Mahomes in a Super Bowl. And Michael Jordan reinforces positively my leadership style.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah.

[Danny Parkins]

Does not care about Jeremy Fowler or.

[Bomani Jones]

But does he care about the dozens of people Jeremy Fowler? Okay.

[Danny Parkins]

Like, listen. And I, again, I was surprised that I a very. Philly fans are not huge fans of my work. Like, they remind me of it all the time. And the terrific first things first videos. I was surprised at my own takeaway. Like, all I was saying, I'm like, on a human level, he's like, Well, I got 12 sources that tell me I'm doing it wrong. Yeah. And then I imagine he looks at his phone and he looks at a text from Michael Jordan. That's just like, keep it up. And it's.

[Bomani Jones]

It's got.

[Danny Parkins]

It's gotta be a mind fuck for him to be like, why is what I'm doing not working when all we do is win.

[Bomani Jones]

Well, there's the other part, too. I would be very curious to know what his dad thinks of all of this. And I say that for people who don't know his dad is a coach. Not mistaken. His dad was his coach. And the flip side of the coach's son thing is he already got a coach.

[Danny Parkins]

Right? Right.

[Bomani Jones]

And so if dad is saying, nah, you okay? I would think that my dad would be like, all right, son, let's go out here and let's work on some of this stuff right here. Right. I don't know what his dad is saying, but I would be very curious to know how that goes. Like, look, Brian Johnson was his offensive coordinator in Philadelphia that one year. Brian Johnson, they from. They from the same part of around Houston, right? That Goose Creek over there, Baytown, Channel View, all of that. They're from the same place. I don't know if Brian played for Jalen's father, but they're. They're close. I guarantee you that Brian Johnson and coach hurts. Know each other and have known each other for a very long time just because of the proximity of that area. That dude got fired, right? Like, that dude got canned behind this. So I wish I had. And by the way, then that guy goes and works with Jaden Daniels when Jaden Daniels thing starts taking off. So I don't know where. I don't know where exactly this goes. I don't know how it goes, but the Eagles are clearly saying, now it's on you. And the person who has to feel the best about that is Nick Sirianni. Because we're always ready to fire him. At least I am.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, no, I. I am too. And listen, you. You would like to think that if you were Nick Sirianni and you were an offensive coach, you. He wouldn't need to have more than one offensive coordinator a year. It's like, buddy, why didn't you just call the place? Why. Why didn't you just be the thing that is consistent for Jaylen Herz, but evidently that hasn't happened. Listen, I think that there is a chance that this ends with, like, Jalen Hurts being like, oh, they were right. When in like two years, he's the quarterback of the Titans. When we, when we finally do see Jalen Hurts without a super team around him, and everyone's like, oh, yeah, of course he's a below average passer. We've known that for forever. Yeah, you didn't agree with that. You just quoted win percentage to all of us.

[Bomani Jones]

Look, you know what that thing is with him now wanting to run the kind of stuff that they want to do, because that's not what he does. I don't know how much this, this, this comes up in your world, but in my world and people I'm around, people make a very good point that you can tell a lot about somebody's lifestyle by eating chicken with them. But specifically chicken that got a bone. What that bone look like at the end will tell you a great deal about how it is that a person has lived. Right. Them people that be shaving them things like, bald all the way, smooth. Hey, man, they ain't never had the luxury of just being like, cool, let me go get the next chicken piece of chicken right fast. They ain't never. They, they, they, they have not had it like that. Jalen Hurts is leaving that chicken on the bone. He has had the option and ability to, to not have to go down to the gristle. He ain't never really had to do that. You ain't got to do that at Alabama. You ain't got to do that at Oklahoma. And he has not had to do that with the Eagles. And the Eagles are like, we are tired of wasting money on chicken. Like, in the last year, there's like four buckets that you haven't eaten, and they just right there on the bone. If you'll just turn around a little bit and let us do some back and forth stuff to make it better. And they telling him, hey, man, eat the chicken, dog. All of it. No, no, no, don't touch that one. Finish this one.

[Danny Parkins]

That analogy hurts because I've been told that I am a privileged chicken eater.

[Bomani Jones]

Just so you know, I was realizing this as I was eating chicken last night with this certain. Or a couple nights ago with that measure of privilege.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, I've, I've. That has been pointed out to me on more than one occasion that, that I'm a. Where else in my life are you soft, Parkins? Because you're eating that chicken like, you have been silver spoon fed. I'm like, that's guilty.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah.

[Danny Parkins]

That is not as guilty as charges. You see me, sir. You see me.

[Bomani Jones]

We've both been there.

[Danny Parkins]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I mean, like, I'm not going to change now. 39 years old. I'm gonna eat my chicken how I like to eat my chicken.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. Jailer hurts. That's.

[Danny Parkins]

That's what I'm saying.

[Bomani Jones]

That's what he's saying.

[Danny Parkins]

That's why I can relate to him. Yeah. I found myself sympathizing.

[Bomani Jones]

But I think part of what's amazing to me about it is that he's gotten this far while being able to be this rigid. Because. Because as we said, he's not really that good. Right. Like, normally the guys that you hear acting like this and I don't. And that sounds more loaded than I intended, but carrying themselves in this fashion, comporting themselves as such, they're normally a little better than this. Right. Like, I don't. It's. Sorry. Nothing like it. Nothing like it. It is.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, it's delusional arrogance, which we've seen from athletes, but then you can, like, look through it. A very specific prism of Oklahoma, Alabama win percentage, Philly, Philly sports fans, two Super Bowls besting the home Super Bowl MVP Jordan Brand, and be like, yeah, I'd probably. I'd probably be pretty arrogant, too. Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. But I mean, I would have thought after you got parked in the middle of the National Championship game and had to ride to Oak the whole next year. Yeah, I would have thought that that would have been the. Oh, okay. Apparently not apparent.

[Danny Parkins]

Apparent. Apparently not. And it's a. Like, what do you think that's going to look like this year? Like, do you think he hasn't.

[Bomani Jones]

Like.

[Danny Parkins]

Like, obviously he's not half as talented as Aaron Rodgers, but, like, Aaron Rodgers had some rigidity to him at the end with Mike McCarthy. And it was literally the same stuff. Like, yeah, did not like, motions and did like. Like was kind of hesitant to that. And Matt LaFleur was like, hey, just try it. You're really smart. You're really talented. Like, just try it my way. And then he ripped off two MVPs, you know, so. So, like, even the most talented ever can still get stuck in their ways and. And then be exposed to new ideas and, you know, old dog, new tricks sort of thing. Like, it. Does Jalen Hurts have it in him to. If you put him in 10 out of 10 modern offense, like, what. What would he look like if he was coached by Sean McVay. What would he look like if he was coached by Kyle Shanahan? I still tend to think that there are limitations there with his throwing, but I'm open to the possibility that I'm wrong.

[Bomani Jones]

You know what I think the part that makes this interesting, now that I think about it, where it kind of washes over me, is that he, he's all. I go through this to a degree with certain things, like what I think about with music. Right. When I was younger, I had an old soul. When you're young, it's called an old soul. When you're middle age, you just seem old.

[Danny Parkins]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

He was an old soul. Right. Like we thought of him as being in every way, by the way, we have just thought of him as being a bit precocious. He's a little young to be that rigid, don't you think?

[Danny Parkins]

Yes.

[Bomani Jones]

I think that's the part that makes it so interesting is again, we're not talking about Aaron Rodgers at 36 or 37, seven being like, no, that's not the way that I do things. We're talking about somebody at an age where you should be as malleable as one could ever expect you to be. And you're like, nah, nah. In a league, by the way, where most people understand that once you get to that place, the things that he's being asked to do are the things that you have to learn to do. And he's like, I don't do that.

[Danny Parkins]

Right. And the things that like objectively work.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Danny Parkins]

And it said in the article, he understands that pre snap motions help quarterbacks. Like, they don't do it because they want to like get the receiver extra cardio.

[Bomani Jones]

Right.

[Danny Parkins]

They, they do it to like tip the quarterback's hand as to what the defense is doing and give him more pre snap information so that you are then able to like, you don't have to be looking at the defense the whole time to process it. You should know it ahead of time. You can turn your back to the defense, the whole thing. And yeah, Rogers, Rogers was like the anti QB wins guy because everyone's like, man, it feels like you should have won more, but you're so clearly good. What's wrong with the rest of everyone else? Jalen Hurts is the poster child for the quarterback wins argument. It's like, well, he's good because he wins. Yeah, but do they win because of him?

[Bomani Jones]

Right? And, and people, people struggle with like separating those ideas. I'mma throw this out here right quick too. In terms of talking about him as being precocious. I will say this for the Eagles, though, y' all better be careful. Like if something happened and y' all decide that y' all are gonna y' all are gonna send Jalen Hurts out there. It's gonna be a protest outside that facility. It's gonna look like the Essence Fest when Lil John do the DJ set. Boy, Sister's gonna be out there ready to burn that down. Y' all better watch out. I mean, I I know where he is very popular. I know who his room is. I mean some of some of Philadelphia got it. But she they gonna be out there dressed in all mace like a Freddie, like a Frankie Beverly concert.

[Danny Parkins]

NFL. Not for long, but in Phil, a certain segment of Philadelphia, they want it forever.

[Bomani Jones]

Forever, forever, forever. That'll be him. But coming up next, change gears a little bit. Gonna give Parker's thoughts on what's going on with this end of the NBA season, which has been low key. Incredible. It's time to slide your glass slippers over your lucky socks and hope for a fairy tale ending. It starts when you put in $10 on FanDuel Predicts and we match it with a $10 bonus. Buckle up for the buzzer beaters that break brackets, shots that silence arenas and runs their rewrite history. Take a position on the spread, total points or the winning team. Follow the action in real time. March ups are on FanDuel Predicts offered

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[Bomani Jones]

All right, we're back with Danny Parkins. FS1. First things first. You know I'm a big Victor guy. Like I'm totally there. I haven't bothered to ask Nick if he's come around on this one. It typically takes him a while. Like I give Nick credit on that. Nick gonna stay in the pocket until he absolutely cannot get rid of the ball, right? Like, like he's, he, he, he'll, he'll hold out as long as possible. But Victor is, there wasn't no need to overthink this one. It is exactly what it is. And now this man is trying to talk himself into winning the MVP playing fewer than 30 minutes a game.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, it's, it's wild. I think this is one of the weird times where best player in the world and MVP not might not totally Align. Like my eyes can tell me that yeah, he's the best player in the world, but I've never ever, ever, ever heard or seen or even read about other than that Bob Knight quote about Michael Jordan. Like best player in the world who has never even played in a playoff game. And when Bob Knight said that after the Team USA practices about Michael Jordan, that wasn't like a majority opinion. It was just what Bob Knight said about him. So he's clearly the best defensive player in the league by a mile. And he's arguably the best defensive player I've ever seen play the sport. He's certainly the most singular. And last night, Bo, he had 41 and 18 in 28 minutes. Like what the fuck am I supposed to do with 41 and 18 in 28 minutes? Like that is just, it's incomprehensible. Now is that a reason that he should be MVP of the league when Shay is doing exactly what he did last year? 32 and 6 on insane 55% efficiency, an all time guard scoring season for the team with the best record in the league in the toughest conference with more wins than the Spurs. Albeit a bad head to head record with the spurs when his second best player, Jalen Williams, who was an all star, who was all NBA defense who scored 40 in a finals game has missed 2/3 of the games. Like, I think it's totally reasonable to split the baby and say Shea would get my MVP vote and Victor Wembanyama is the best player in the world.

[Bomani Jones]

I just want to remind you guys that there's a guy who's leading the league in rebounds and assists.

[Danny Parkins]

I. Yeah, no, I know.

[Bomani Jones]

And averaging a triple ball, scoring 27 points a game.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, yeah. He's also incredible like this. This is a tough MVP year. Like, but where is. I'm pulling it up right now. I just want to have it exactly accurate. And this is why I said I would have given it to Shea last year. Now it's closer this year. But like, okay, so Jokic's numbers are ridiculous. We've never seen someone lead the league in points or excuse me, in rebounds and assists. He is averaging a triple double again, which at one point got Russell Westbrook the MVP is the six seed and now we've become bored with it by Joker. But should it matter that Shay's team has 11 more wins than him? Cause last year he had 18 more wins.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, than Joker. No, so I mean I think that Shay is probably the most reasonable choice for mvp. Shea is weird because everything that Shay has done does not simply imply a really good player. It implies one of the greatest basketball players of all time. And there has literally not been one time in my life that I have watched him and thought, holy, that's one of the best basketball players of all time. But the results absolutely indicate this about him. But what you just said is very important. Oklahoma City is still as good as they were last year without a guy that can give you 35 in the playoffs. Right? Like once you get past check 40

[Danny Parkins]

Jalen Williams gave you, he went. He had three. He had a three game stretch, game three, four and five of the finals last year, I believe, where he was like 25, 28, 40, like, okay, that guy fucking matters, right?

[Bomani Jones]

And once you get past Chet, like, who exactly are we talking about on this roster? He's that guy. Jokic is that guy. Like all of this, it's. It's an amazing time right now at the top of the league. I think that is in terms of like who the top players are, you know, not as many Americans as we would probably like, because we're the, the top four guys that we're talking about are these three guys and Luka Doncic.

[Danny Parkins]

Luca just had a 600 point month.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes, he did. Yes, he did.

[Danny Parkins]

Thirteen straight games of 30 plus. Three, I think three straight games of 40 plus, like current, current active streak as you and I are recording this crazy efficiency, like an awesome win loss record on a Lakers team that for again for a month was top 10 in points per game allowed and number one, three point defense allowed. Right? I didn't see that coming. I did not see that coming.

[Bomani Jones]

And this season he has been not in the same class as these other guys. And that's. And that's not about him. That is about the class of what the top has been. I also think that it's a little skewed, the victor numbers thing because of the numbers restriction that they had earlier in the year, you know, when he was. I forget which injury it was like during the play in when he was coming off the bench and doing stuff like that. And I think there are other years in which he would have won this or perhaps if he were older or perhaps if the spurs had traded to get him. And what I mean by that is Steve Nash won that first MVP that led to the second MVP because they were so much better getting him than they were the year before. I don't even know if he was the best. I think Amari Stoudemire, congratulations to him on the hall of Fame was probably a better player than Nash was, but Nash, Nash was like the swing voter. Right. Nash's presence was the thing that elevated that team that had been bad into being very good. Victor, It's a narrative sort of mvp. Russell Westbrook won a narrative MVP that year. He won 47 games in a year where they lost Kevin Durant. And we thought that they would be terrible. Victor's case is a narrative case. Look at what. Look at what I've changed just by being Victor Wembanyama. Look at these other dudes. You know their names. I know you don't. It don't matter if they good. You don't know who they are. You know who I am. You see, I'm making your favorite player scared to shoot. Like he's playing against his big brother. All of this stuff. If he had just shown up on the spurs and put in the same performance, the way MVP voting works, I bet he would have been more likely to get it. Yeah.

[Danny Parkins]

And I love that he made his case. I love. I loved it. Like, talk your shit, man. And you know, he said, I think it was to Van Pelt last night about like, ditto. I don't. I want to be an all time great. I'm paraphrasing. And so I'm not going to let any of these opportunities come because. And he's like, he seems to have an understanding that, like, finishing second in MVP is not the type of thing we talk about when you go into the hall of Fame or in goat arguments. But he's 22.

[Bomani Jones]

This is these. This is how it works in this league.

[Danny Parkins]

Doesn't care. I know. Well, like, I, I have to this idea.

[Bomani Jones]

Right.

[Danny Parkins]

I think we have to be open to the possibility that the rules just do not apply to him.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Danny Parkins]

Like, oh, Michael Jordan had to like, lose to the Celtics and the Pistons before he could ultimately, you know, slay the dragon. And you got to crawl, then walk, then run. Maybe not. When you are autographing your All Star game jersey for Joker and. And he asks you to add a picture of an alien to it. That video, it was like an 8 second clip. I'm like, that is on. Like, Joker's the alien. Like, and he's like, in awe of Vic. Like Giannis's kid is in awe of him. Because it's we, dude. You watch a full game of the spurs and you will see someone dribble towards the lane and then retreat. Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, oh, oh, oh. My bad. I didn't even see you there, big dog.

[Danny Parkins]

It's the damn. Like, not like try to bite a foul. Not like try to go around him. They, they, they like put it in reverse. That doesn't happen in the NBA. He. So it's, it is a singular thing and it's wild. And I don't really know, like, is he going to have a 15 year prime? Like his, his body going to hold up? I don't know. But if it is, he legitimately could win 15 defensive player of the year awards and 10 titles. Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, I do think the playoffs are going to be interesting because I think the argument against them also against the Pistons is worth noting. The argument against them is not simply that you have to go to the playoffs to win in the playoffs. Right. Like, yeah, I mean, okay, that sounds ridiculous, but you understand what I mean, right? Like, you're not just going to get there all the way in the first run experience.

[Danny Parkins]

There's something to it.

[Bomani Jones]

Right. But I think that we need to be a little clearer when we talk about it, about why the experience matters. And the experience matters because playoff basketball is not the same as regular season basketball. Like, your ability to run through a regular season is correlated to your ability to win in the postseason, but not directly. It's not really the same game when you start playing against the same teams over and over again. And they're tricks that guys pick up and they learn as it goes. That's the reason why it's taking everybody a little bit more time to make the climb, because you're getting acclimated to a new type of basketball. And then by the time you do, your ass is home and you don't get to do it again for another year. Right.

[Danny Parkins]

Well, but, and sorry if I'm cutting you off here, but like, to me, I think that way more applies to the Pistons than the spurs, because like, I have seen, I've been calling the Pistons the Tryhard Pistons. Yeah, like, we see teams like this almost every year. Like my Bulls under Thibodeau were the Tryhard Bulls, the, the Raptors, the Hawks. Like, we have seen like, teams that basically treat the regular season like the postseason.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Danny Parkins]

Because of a defensive mentality, because of youth, because of an insane coach. Like, whatever the reason. And then when everybody else ratchets up the intensity to playoff level, their edge goes away. Because now everyone is playing like that. And so like, to me, you saw it in like the All Star Game, like Jalen Duran was like going insane and running all over the place and they're playing deep, they're fouling in the All Star game. It's like, oh, like the Pistons just are embracing Detroit basketball and JB Bickerstaff and they're playing their ass off all the time. I give the Pistons basically no chance. The spurs. What if Victor Wembanyama, like, just plays 35 minutes a game in the playoffs and they take the minutes restriction away and so it's like, I'm. I'm able to get you 41 and 18 in 28 minutes. Now I'm going to start getting you 45 and 20. Like they. I think that there's just like a clear other level that the spurs might be able to get to. And I have no idea what they're going to do on that front in the playoffs. Like, there's another gear for them that I don't think exists for. For the Pistons.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. I am curious to see also how the defenses against Victor change. Like what Strategically teams are going to cook up, and I am. All right. So right now, in the west, as we record this, the top six teams are the Thunder, the Spurs, the Laker, the Nut Lakers, the Nuggets, the Rockets and the Timberwolves. When I looked at it yesterday, the Rockets were in six and the Timberwolves were at five.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah. There is game separating each other right now.

[Bomani Jones]

Right. The reason I point that out and find it to be important is I think most of us agree the Rockets and the Lakers do not have a chance at winning the West. I know who does not agree with that about the Lakers, but I don't think that the Rockets and the Lakers. So the Rockets and the Lakers get to play against each other. To me, that's great news for San Antonio as they get to then go play against a team that. That I don't think has a chance at winning Oklahoma City. If it turned out Oklahoma City could have a chance. If. If it turned out that the Rockets went down to six, it's Oklahoma City playing the winner of Denver and Minnesota this time. I would think that Denver would get that if we get the Thunder, the Spurs, Laker, Rocket, whichever one get Lakers, I think would probably be the team that I would pick in that series and the Nuggets as the semifinals in the West. Whoo. That's gonna be fun.

[Danny Parkins]

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's. That is. I mean, it's always team no sleep. But that is like. Yes, appoint that. That. That is appointment viewing.

[Bomani Jones]

Meanwhile, in the east, the Celtics have just decided. Okay, we're here now. Yeah. Yeah. Don't ask us how Jason Tatum got back so fast. Shit. I don't know either, man. It's crazy. Anyway, they. They scored 53 points in the first quarter against Miami.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, I mean, listen, the Celtics are. They're deep. They shoot an insane number of threes. I don't really like watching them because of how many threes they shoot. It's. It's a little offensive, but they are really, really good. And they definitely are probably the only team, realistically, that you can pick to come out of the East. I. I know we disagreed, and I don't want to talk too much about it because it's a take that's not aging very well. But. But like, I actually liked the Harden trade, and I was pretty intrigued. I was pretty intrigued by an Evan Mobley, Jared Allen, James Harden, Donovan Mitchell, top four. And I still think that could end up being our Eastern Conference final. But the Celtics are clearly the best team in the East. The only thing I will say about the Lakers, because I have been a. A huge skeptic of them. The team that Luca carried to the finals a couple of years ago for the Mavericks was the supporting cast. Like, you know, they had Lively and Washington and Gafford and Kyrie Irving. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. But. But at least Kyrie can be like. I mean, Austin Reeves and LeBron James are pretty good offensive players. Like, I don't know. Like, is. Is this supporting cast much worse? I think you could argue certainly that the spurs and Thunder are much better at the top than that Mavericks team go through. No question. But is this Lakers supporting cast much worse than that Mavericks team?

[Bomani Jones]

All I'm saying is I think that for them to win, it requires literally depending on deandre Aiden, and I've seen how that goes. Yeah, that's. That's. It's the same thing with the Rockets. The Rocket supporting cast isn't bad, but where it's flawed, it's fatal.

[Danny Parkins]

Yes. And listen, the. The Lakers are right now getting a pretty incredible amount of like, effort and production, but not necessarily statistical, but just like, like deandre Ayton is playing hard and Marcus Smart is healthy. I don't know that both of those things are going to survive two months of playoff basketball.

[Bomani Jones]

Right.

[Danny Parkins]

Like, I, you know, I don't believe that they are a top 10 defensive team in the league like they have been for this stretch of time.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. No. No chance you can keep that. Not with your three best players being those guys.

[Danny Parkins]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

I.

[Danny Parkins]

So I. I don't believe that. But I get. But again, Luca is on a level right now where he can.

[Bomani Jones]

He can.

[Danny Parkins]

He can win you some games. Yeah, he can win you some games on the offensive side of the floor.

[Bomani Jones]

Well, he's also doing the thing that I think is in this day and age becoming a very underrated skill. It is one of the things that held me up in acknowledging some of the greatness of Steph Curry, which is in my world, great players get to the free throw line. Right.

[Danny Parkins]

This dude Luca, I think Luke is number one in free throw attempts per

[Bomani Jones]

game and Shea is number two at 10 a game. Right. Like, think about how crazy this is. Part of this is because Luke could take all the shots, but he shoots 11 threes a game in 10 free throws a game. Right. The best shot in basketball is a free throw.

[Danny Parkins]

Yep.

[Bomani Jones]

That is the easy no defense. You get to stand there, it's a shot, you get to practice. The only shot that you really get to practice all the time under basically the same conditions. He's shooting 10 of those a game and he's shooting 11 threes and making four of them. Now how are the refs going to whistle him? And in the playoffs, will that childish man be able to hold his shit together when he's not getting the calls that he wants and. Or expects?

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, we saw it with Shea a little bit last year. Like, Shay didn't get the exact, like the same number of free throw attempts per game in the playoffs, but they are, they are so good and so deep. They were able to eke it out. And listen as a, as a. I have picked the Thunder now three years in a row. Like, I think that they are the best team. Part of it is a bias of doing reporting around Sam Presti for, for the book Pipeline to the Pros. Like I. What I love about the Thunder is they don't put a single player who's bad at defense. Every single player who gets minutes for them is a. Is a two way basketball player or, or two ways. Not the right way to say it.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, but I see what you mean. Like, like if you can't guard, you can't play here.

[Danny Parkins]

Right. Every guy. Austin Reeves is not a Thunder guy.

[Bomani Jones]

Right.

[Danny Parkins]

Like, they go out and get Hartenstein, they go out and get Caruso. They go out like, like their specialists tend to be more defensive oriented than offensive oriented. And then their players on offense are also really good and they're crazy deep. So there's not a single defensive liability on their roster. So I just love how the team is constructed. I think it's great. But I will. Like, I was surprised that Denver took them to seven and that the Pacers, obviously, that was shocking. Took. Took him to seven. So like there is a possibility that some of what they do gets neutralized in the playoffs as it gets officiated differently and everyone else's defensive intensity ratchets up. But I, I do still think the Thunder are the clear best team in the sport by a comfortable margin.

[Bomani Jones]

And I just want to point out. And I think they'll have a boost for being champions. Cause I think being champions matters. But they were Tyrese Halliburton Achilles away from potentially losing a Game 7 at home. And remember Denver pushed him all the way to the game 7:2.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, no, that's what I'm here. Before I thought they were going to waltz through last year and they didn't. So I have to be open to the possibility that I am just wrong about that because I was. Last year they just ultimately held the trophy up. But like Chad is better. Chad is better. And they still are the best team in the league. As I mentioned earlier with getting basically nothing from Jalen Williams this year, like they're going to be healthy going into the playoffs. They are battle tested. And Chet Holmgren is significantly better this year than he was last year.

[Bomani Jones]

We go learn a lot about the regions of the digital era because poor Adam Silver, you've got a potential 10 year rivalry with maybe your two worst markets in the whole league. It's going to suck for these NBA guys who go spend the next 10 years flying from San Antonio to Dallas and then Dallas to Oklahoma City City.

[Danny Parkins]

That is. That is exactly right. They're gonna have to add some direct flights.

[Bomani Jones]

Oh, man. If they add direct flights from Oklahoma City to San Antonio, they will just be for two weeks.

[Danny Parkins]

Brian Windhorse is going to start booking that in April.

[Bomani Jones]

Oh my God. Man, that's where they are. But ladies and gentlemen, that is Danny Parkins. Check him out. First things first. FS1, 5 o' clock Eastern and do you get to revel in the Emmy nomination?

[Danny Parkins]

You know, I'm. Listen, I get to revel in it and that I get to work with all these people. They are amazing in front of the camera and especially behind. But I can tell you that the congratulations have been going to the people who have been there a lot longer than me.

[Bomani Jones]

I understand this. I just want to let you guys know this in advance. And this is what's going to stink for those guys. This became a very big controversy very recently. Although they may have changed the rule, I don't know. But at least it used to be back in the day that the host didn't get a trophy, you remember, ESPN got in trouble because they were cooking up the fake trophies for people.

[Danny Parkins]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

And what they were doing was they were put as. I'm not mistaken. They were putting on the list of producers. It would be like, shmurp, Merb street or whatever. Like, the people would get trophies, and then they got caught. So I don't know if you're gonna be able to get you one of these. You know what I'm saying?

[Danny Parkins]

I. I know I won't be able to get one of these, but, like, if Nick doesn't get him one, if he wins, he will. He will be low key, devastated. But it's. Yeah, man, that was. That was a very cool thing. You know, you follow the journey of the show. They are. They. It's a. It's a great show that I get to be a very small part of. And that's not like fake humility. I would tell you if I thought that I was the reason for it, because the joke was made, like, oh, Parkins, you get added to the show and we finally get nominated. They've deserved it for a while. It's an incredible. It's an incredible show.

[Bomani Jones]

I'm just saying I've put. I've put a show over the top before, you know what I'm saying? Like, I've. I've. I've. I've been in the position to do that. You know, just go ahead and let them tell you you ain't got to correct them. You know what I'm saying? That's what it is. You ain't got to say it, but you ain't got to correct them.

[Danny Parkins]

That's right. And Nick knows that's what really matters. As long as Nick knows the real difference, that's enough for me.

[Bomani Jones]

There it is, man. Appreciate you, brother.

[Danny Parkins]

Thanks, man. Talk to you soon.

[Bomani Jones]

All right now, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the Right time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Brumley handled everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line. 323-59-6776. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. And we'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.