B (2:12)

Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things that you know is going to happen eventually, inevitably, and like it was reasonable for it to happen now, but it still was like, damn, you just got used to it. So like it was kind of. It wasn't like, wasn't Something that I was like, I can't explain this. This is so ridiculous. But it still was like, oh, damn. They really did it. Especially the time when it happened. Like I was at dinner with Swagu, Like I had moved on. Well, I guess we weren't at dinner yet. I was headed to dinner with Swagu and it came through the thing. Yeah, I'm old. I go to early dentist. And y' all ain't.

A (2:44)

Y' all ain't.

B (2:45)

I was hungry, you know, it was a spur of the moment type of thing. He wasn't planning on being there.

A (2:51)

But I'd be hungry on the spur of the moment, too.

B (2:54)

You next week. What you doing, man? Let's go.

A (2:56)

I'll be here. You know where I'm at.

B (2:58)

All right. I'll be up there next week. Guaranteed.

A (3:00)

You gotta realize, Dominique be here every weekend. I see Dominique once a football season.

B (3:04)

Not every weekend. It's during the week.

A (3:06)

Every weekend. Either way, I get. I'm not mad.

B (3:09)

It was like. It was like three times this season.

A (3:12)

It was twice. But you know what the thing is, though, and I have to explain this to people about New York. It's 8 million people here, right? So when somebody come into New York, maybe you see them, maybe you don't, because there's a million people here.

B (3:23)

I gotta be honest with you. And the same thing that I said to Marcus is, it's not about that. There's a bunch of different people to see. It's that I don't never want to do nothing, but I'm always happy I did it. It's the most ridiculous dynamic that maybe other people understand. Maybe it's my own personal thing. It's like, I. I'd be like, man, I don't really want to do this. I don't wanna go out. I don't wanna eat. I wanna go to bed. And every time I get together with some friends or here or anywhere else, I'm always like, that was nice. I really enjoyed doing that. But I still can't get myself to make no plans.

A (3:59)

No. Well, that's what. That's what it is. And it's interesting. Neither of us is the imposing type. Yeah, but you have to be imposed upon, right? Right. Like, if you are imposed upon, you will go for it and you will be cool. But inside I be like, yo, man, Dominique down there, I'mma let him do what he going to do. No, that is not actually going to work. Like, that's not. That's. That's not the program.

B (4:20)

Next week, we Locked in. Guarantee we all good.

A (4:23)

It's all good. I just realized I hope that didn't sound as passive aggressive as it felt, because it really wasn't making sure.

B (4:29)

Nah.

A (4:29)

Okay.

C (4:29)

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

A (4:31)

You and Swag. You and Swagu go to dinner. Boom.

B (4:34)

Yeah. And as I'm walking, I get the alert that's like, pops up and I'm like, oh, damn. And so it stunned me, but it wasn't something that I was completely shocked by. And anybody who. The rumors got louder and louder. So I'm a little bit closer, like physically and also like socially closer to the Ravens than most people. So, like, some of the rumors that are starting to come out and some of the reporting that's coming out about relationships and discomfort and lost connection locker room are things that I've been hearing for a little while. And so, like, when that stuff starts to bubble up, especially with a guy who is as talented and important to an organization as Lamar Jackson is, then of course it's going to lead to this stuff at some point. But, yeah, it's still still a surprise.

A (5:19)

So this is my question about that because, you know, we talked about it here on a YouTube video that we did. And look, you've been there for 18 years. Like, this happens. This is just kind of what it is. You guys were. They were highly disappointing this season. They decided it was time for a change. There also appear to be reports that Lamar Jackson has some growing up to do, one might argue. And I think the question I have, and I'm curious your thoughts on, is not even so much like it feels patronizing to say somebody needs to grow up. Especially cause he's almost 30 years old now. Like, he's a guy that you gotta be like, yo, he ain't as young as it seemed like he was. But I wonder, like, I look at Kawhi Leonard in the NBA and I say, oh, you want the money, right? And you want to be able to show up whenever you want because you the best. But you don't want none of the burden or the onus that comes with that to be the leader, the example setter, right? Like the guy that says how everything is going to be. Like, we getting reports that Lamar, they don't even know from day to day whether he feel like practicing or not. And that to me, from where I stand, feels like something that needs to change.

B (6:27)

It's very un football too. It's like you brought up Kawhi basketball. You hear about things like this more often where there's Guys who really talented and they take advantage of that talent. But you also hear the stories of the guys who have the most success are the guys who are those superstars who. But they are reluctant to use that card. Right? Like, you know, we set up this operation, but I, I know what it takes and I know that the way that I behave is going to impact the culture of this team. I think what you said, like grow up is like a euphemism for like be more professional, you know, And I don't think that this is a unique work environment. And so. And you come into a ton of power. And to your point, like, he's about to be 30. If you think about. It's only in sports, you know, I guess maybe startups where it's a 30 year old, right, that's running all this, like, you know what I mean? Like to be the person that everyone looks to for leadership and guidance. And like the vibes in the building today are gonna be based on how much sleep you got last night. You 30. That's normally somebody that at the youngest is 55, they. They may maybe 42, I don't know. But like, normally it's. You've lived a whole bunch. And you've also like worked your way up through these other settings where you've seen what it's like to be there. So like, we assume that those guys are ready for that automatically. But also like to the interpersonal stuff, I don't know exactly what's going on in the building, but if you feel like you getting mistreated and we all can attest to this, you feel like you getting mistreated or underappreciated or whatever it is that you're feeling. And again, I'm not talking about Lamar specifically. It's not anything that I know firsthand. But when you get one side of the story, it sounds like it's one person that's like, I don't really care about this. Not to say that the actions that were reported are justified, but sometimes the actions are in response to something that you are feeling or a way that you feel like you are being treated again is indefensible. Ultimately, no one is going to. You are also the person who all this is going to hang on. Which is why like, I kind of understand and ultimately came around to like, if this was something that was pushed by Lamar, by all means, because we not going to look back on his career and say, man, he was the greatest. It don't matter how many Super Bowls he won, he was the greatest. They let him down in this way, that way, the other way. No, we're going to be like, hey, couldn't get it done in the big moments. Right.

A (9:04)

And look, for whatever reason, the Ty Monken thing didn't really work for him. The idea that Harbaugh is like, I refuse to fire Todd Monkin. Okay. You must have just wanted to go somewhere else.

B (9:12)

Cause this is a. Like, gotta.

A (9:15)

Gotta do what you gotta do sometimes, Big dog. Like, I know Bruce. I know Bruce Arans does not speak to Mike Tomlin anymore based on a very similar situation. But sometimes that just trade you gotta make. Like, if you. If Lamar. If the quarterback doesn't want to play for the offensive coordinator, then we gotta go get a new offensive coordinator. Yeah.

B (9:33)

That sounds to me like it was a. It was a. A piece of. A bigger picture. Yeah. Where it's like one thing about the Ravens has been they've been such a. Like, professionally run and like, top heavy, like, leadership structure from Ozzy, who's still involved, to Da Casa, to Harbaugh and it. And Joe Flacco wasn't gonna be the guy. And he wasn't like, he wasn't good enough, frankly, to be that guy. It's a unique place that this organization's been in. They've been good the whole time. They existed pretty much like, competitive. They've never had a superstar quarterback and they've never had. And they had like superstar linebackers and defensive players, but. And quarterbacks. Right. Yeah. And so like, to me, at least it comes down to that. Felt like it wasn't about Todd Monkin. They'd been through so many coordinators over there. Harbaugh been in 19 years. He done hired and fired a ton of people. It wasn't about Todd Monkin. It was about I. At least to me, I'm in charge. We gonna do it my way. And I'm a bend a little bit, but this is the final one. Like, nah, you're not gonna tell me who. And I respect that. From both sides. Where it's like, look, at a certain point, there's some level of power that I must maintain if I'm gonna run this. You're not gonna tell me who I could hire and fire. I won. If I gotta go for that, I gotta go for that. Like, I respect both of them and. And ultimately how this panned out.

A (10:58)

Yeah. It be's like that sometimes, you know, like, okay, one of us is like, something I would never forget is when Russell Westbrook left Houston and was just like, I don't wanna play with James anymore. And James is like, I don't wanna play with Russell anymore. And them boys is still freaking frack, man. Like, they just looked at each other was like, hey, man, I don't. I don't think we meant to be roommates.

B (11:24)

It be like that sometimes. I said a whole bunch of words and you quite succinctly boiled it down to the truth. It's like, man, sometimes it be like that.

A (11:33)

Bees like that. By the way, I don't know if you saw this, but on Wednesday, Jo Anderson reported that the Miami Dolphins had been in touch with John Harbaugh, which was a bit of an issue because on Wednesday, the Miami Dolphins still had a head coach. Mike McDaniel was their head coach. And the fact that he was still the head coach make me raise the question, or I always say is like, so who does and does not know that this man is black? Apparently, Stephen Ross figured it out because on Thursday, the man got fired.

B (12:02)

Oh, they fired him?

A (12:04)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. McDaniel's gone. I mean, look, man, once you start.

B (12:06)

I didn't even see that.

A (12:07)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. McDaniel got fired once. It's always bad news when the streets find out that you tried to holl at another coach while you still got.

B (12:17)

The COVID.

A (12:21)

But it raises the question, though, would Stephen Ross have kept McDaniel if he didn't think that maybe he would have a chance at John Harbaugh? Harbaugh's a fool if he goes and takes that job. Just so we're clear, they who go, throw the ball for them.

B (12:35)

Yeah, I don't agree with that wholeheartedly. And it took me a. I like, figure this out on air at get up where I was. Like, everyone who's looking at the most favorable situation is someone who's looking. Your people, the people who are looking at, like, the roster and how close you are. When you're a coach like John Harbaugh, you don't need to prove yourself early on. You don't necessarily. If you look at the jobs that are available, point to the quarterback that you want to be tied to. It ain't there, like, outside of that, everywhere you're looking for a quarterback, but you point to a spot where there is no gm, which is huge, because no matter where John was, John was going. He was. He was firing the gm. Unless he went with mon. Unless he went with Monty Austin for it, which apparently out in Arizona, they have, like, a relationship. Maybe that would have worked out. But wherever he going, y' all gone. He got that type of power, you know. Right. And he also can build up this team in the image that he wants. I don't know that, like, if Herbert's available, like when his. His brother took the job, if Lamar Jackson's available, you want to attach yourself to that. But of the available jobs is there. And like, you could take the Raiders job and get Mendoza, but like, if it's all about the roster, he's not in a position. If you're a first year head coach, you're in a position where like, man, I got to show they ass something this year or the clock ticks. But I think Harbaugh, what you want is an owner that's willing to spend money and is committed to trying to win, but also don't meddle too much. And you might have that with Steven Ross, maybe.

A (14:17)

So I, I agree with everything that you're saying. Right. First of all, before I forget, Monte Ossenfort white Monty. It's Monty with an eye, by the way. And I looked up a picture because I was like, huh, it could go either way. And no, no, no, no, no. He is actually from Luverne, Minnesota. And I mean, he a white man with a baldy and a goatee. So like, maybe on the phone he sound like Monty. You know what I'm saying? But just. Just throw that out there. My thing with Miami is, I guess we've just been watching 30 years of various levels of ineptitude from the franchise. And to me, it's not even a matter of them having a great quarterback. What's the. Like, how are we supposed to get one? And I don't know what the path is there on it, because I agree with you in the sum total point and the rest of the roster. I'm with you on, hey, I'm John Harbaugh. Maybe you're gonna give me some time. But at the same time, I just saw them run Pete Carroll out of there after one year. Now, granted, they look terrible, but I just saw them run him out of there after one year.

B (15:21)

And like, Pete Carroll's not. He's not John Harbaugh just because their resumes are somewhat similar. Pete Carroll was a decision that they made when they couldn't get the guy that they wanted. It wasn't like the cycle started and everyone was like, oh, can we get Pete Carroll? Kind of like, I know it sounds ridiculous now, but kind of like how Bill Belichick was like, if you'd have hired Bill Belichick, you was going to give him five Years at least to do something, figure something out. And I think that's the same thing. And so I guess the real question is, how long are they under this, this TUA thing? And you know what? I thought of Sean Payton as the last coach. That kind of felt like the way Belichick feel or, excuse me, the way that Harbaugh feels right now. And Sean Payton was like, I'm a go. Let me holla at these Waltons. Yeah, let me holler at these Waltons in Denver and build something up here. I know we are underneath this ridiculous cap restriction because of the Russell Wilson deal. Like, but we got an organization that, with young or new owners that got all the money that are willing to pay for what I need to pay in order to make this roster complete. Like, commit money, pass time and commit, commit to the facilities, commit to me hiring the best coaching staff that I can in front office. Like all that stuff, it's the stuff that we don't talk about when we talk about choosing jobs. But ultimately, if you're going to be there for a long time, have sustained success, like, it's not a coincidence that we. There are certain teams that, that only pop up in a Super bowl once in a while because they got hot. Cincinnati, I mean, keep it real.

A (16:52)

That's the Giants.

B (16:54)

Yeah.

A (16:55)

Like, they won those. I mean, they won those two Super Bowls, but when they won them, it is exactly the scenario that you described because you hear Harbaugh's name pop up with the Giants, we treat the jets like a joke. And it's fair to treat the jets like a joke. I've been living here for. This is the ninth football season that I've done here. They the same dog. They just wear different colors.

B (17:17)

And they, they also, like, it's branding. It's this Brandon also.

A (17:21)

Yeah, but the Giants have four Super Bowls. Right? The Giants had Lawrence Taylor, all of those things. But for however many years, the Giants and the jets, lo mismo, as they say in Espanol. Lo mismo.

B (17:35)

Yeah, I, I don't love that. I mean, that's another one where it's like, if you're going there as John Aubaugh, then that's because you think Jackson Dart has the chance to be a top of the league quarterback. And that's. Yeah, that's about it. And they have a bunch. They have tackle that's really good. They have pass rusher or whole D line that's really good. Like, they have some exciting pieces. But I think when you're a coach like this, it's a mistake for us to think that the best job is the best roster.

A (18:01)

Well, let me ask you this. If the Steelers get ran by the Texans, which is on the board, and they decide to let Mike Tomlin go. Now, of course, the trick bag in this is, it don't matter what none of us think. Steelers decisions are made by the Stillers. Right?

B (18:18)

Like, I don't.

A (18:18)

I don't even know if they got a telephone line for the fans to call in. You know what I'm saying?

B (18:25)

Nah.

A (18:26)

But let's say they let Mike Tomlin go. Would they dare hire John Harbaugh?

B (18:34)

Absolutely not. See, that's the thing is, I think a lot of teams are looking around and are attracted to John Harbaugh. Cause they don't. They haven't lived that life, like this life of 20 years of being good and competitive. They haven't lived that life. The. The Dolphins, like, we could be the Ravens. We could lose. We could have disappointment in the playoffs every year. That would be marvelous. And maybe have a chance to win a Super bowl in 19 years. That'd be tremendous.

A (19:03)

The.

B (19:03)

I guarantee you it's not only that he's a Raven and that's like, sacrilege to the Steelers. It's that we the same. We the same. Yeah. They gonna look at him and be like, he. We. At least we could say, John, that Tomlin didn't have a quarterback. You had an mvp. Don't you bring your ass over here with that. I do not think that the Steelers fans would be excited about. They would make fun of Ravens fans and have a good time with that, but they would not be excited about bringing him in because they've been.

A (19:34)

They've been.

B (19:34)

They live in the same neighborhood. That's not an upgrade to them.

A (19:38)

They ain't trying to make no trade. They try to switch it out. They try to bring in Stefanski.

B (19:43)

They not tried to do wife swap. Not right there. They are not swapping up in that situation.

A (19:51)

I try, like, the coaching thing was interesting because, like, I don't think there was anything that was shocking. The shock was that Mike McDaniel had kept his job and they. They went ahead and cleaned up that situation. That one got taken care of. I don't know who the people are that people want to hire, but I have to acknowledge about NFL coaching, NBA coaching. I always say, you can go get a broadcaster, a dude off the street, whatever. I got no idea who's going to turn out to be that guy. Usually, like, guys that look terrible in press conferences. And in spite of his success, this does include Nick Sirianni. They typically are not the guy. Right. Sirianni, again, the weirdest case of any coach of all time. I don't know what. I don't know what it'll take for him to get credit. I don't know what it'll take for him to get fired. I don't have any answers to any of those questions. But I will say this. That goddamn Liam Cohen seemed like the biggest dork in the world at that press conference and then looked like an even bigger dork when he made Robert Sala threaten to kill him. Dominique, he appears to be very good at his job.

B (20:54)

He does appear to be very good at his job. That's the thing. And it's also the more I think about it, it's like authenticity matters as far as connecting with players and connecting with the players really matters. Then after that, the scheme stuff matters. You have to be able to connect with them in order for the scheme stuff to be executed. And like that trust and that commitment, that stuff you don't really like. There have been coaches who've had a spike, so we'll see if, if Liam Cohen's able to sustain this over a while, but it seems clear that he's had immediate impact. And then there's like so many other variables that determine, like this season started. I made this point a long time ago, like around, I don't know, week seven or so, where their offense wasn't quite where it needed to be and their defense was getting ridiculous turnover lock and they were still in good spirits. And I was like, you know what? These turnovers are buying them time. It's buying them time because they were, they could have been like under it. They had like three, two, three wins by then, but they were winning games because they were having good turnover luck. And that's one of the variables that I think put them in this position now where they just ripped off eight wins in a row, just dominated the Titans on their way into the playoffs. And if to your point about like the branding difference in New. In the New York teams, it's like if the Jags was in a different uniform, the way, the way that they closed this season out with a number one overall quarterback playing the way that he's been playing, there'll be no questions asked. We expect them to rip through the playoffs. So, yeah, I think that having the right, having a little bit of luck and understanding that all the variables aren't always going to work out. Like, there have been great Coaches that have failed before, there have been bad coaches that have had a tremendous amount of success, but right now, it seems like they got a good marriage there, and there's no reason to believe that it's going to fall off for them anytime soon. But we'll find out. Things break up well, and Trevor Lawrence.

A (22:53)

Is starting to look like what we thought was going to happen. That's the. That's. That's the big one, coaching.

B (23:00)

But he wasn't at the beginning of the season, is my point.

A (23:02)

Yeah.

B (23:03)

Remember Liam Cohen was pounding on the. Like, hit him here with it. Like, Trevor wasn't doing it. That defense was holding him together.

A (23:08)

Man, I wish some dude named Liam would talk to me like that. You know what I'm saying? Like. Like, that's the. Good for him, man.

B (23:14)

Like, dude, he was a college quarterback, wasn't he? I think.

A (23:17)

Yeah, yeah, he. He kicked it at UMass with Victor Cruz. That was his. That was his man's. It's. It's still. It's still like. Okay, I guess this is like when. When he told Robert Salah to keep my name out your mouth. I was just like, oh, man. Mr. White man, what are we. What are we doing here?

B (23:36)

I gotta. I gotta do a quick Liam Google to make sure I'm right about this thing.

A (23:42)

Yeah. By the way, do you know what Liam is short for? Uh, Liam is short for William.

B (23:49)

Oh.

A (23:49)

I had long wondered where the hell these Liams come from, but that is. The origin of the name Liam is that. It's short for William, and I think that's trying too hard to make a nickname.

D (23:59)

I thought.

B (23:59)

Liam. Liam's not a name.

A (24:01)

No, no. Liam is like. Even if it is a name, it is a derivative of William. It's like. Yeah, but I was just like, wow. Why would you do that? Because I'd always wondered where the hell it came from.

B (24:13)

I know people named Dre, but I assume at one point it wasn't a Dre, it was an Andre or something like that.

A (24:21)

Yeah. Then Dre became so mainstream that every now and then you just get a dream.

B (24:26)

Yep, yep, yep, yep.

A (24:28)

Did you get what you were looking for?

B (24:30)

Yeah. Sometimes we like to communicate in show, and I just wanted to send you that, which I wasn't sure about.

A (24:36)

Let me. Let me see. Let me see. Word.

B (24:41)

Yeah. Keep my. Keep his name out your mouth.

A (24:45)

Hey, I can't. Oh, okay.

B (24:49)

Yeah, I thought so, but I had to double check for my man Liam.

A (24:55)

Yo, that was him. Okay. I was somebody. I was trying to remember who I had seen a picture of him and his folks.

B (25:03)

Yeah.

A (25:03)

And I was. It was him where I was like, yo, let me zoom in on this picture a little bit more.

B (25:08)

Yeah, that's why he gets you with that R B Duvall. That's bad. He like a little rhythm and blues.

A (25:14)

I'll tell you this, though, he appears to have some very strong genes. Like them look like Mike McDaniel's kids.

B (25:24)

Kids do. They do look like when they are applying for NFL jobs, they're gonna be like, no, no, no. We check that box, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're gonna have to tell you.

A (25:33)

Yeah, yeah. We don't really need to talk about it that much. You know, let's focus on what we got in common, baby. What we got in common.

B (25:39)

All right.

A (25:39)

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B (28:33)

Yeah. And yeah, it's prime time. Everybody gonna be locked in and it's not only this another thing like you, I think it was a long time ago when you started like bringing attention to these island games and how important they were which I started to notice recently is it's not just the island game but it's the last game before the next day of programming and it's.

A (28:55)

Like a one, a one on the rundown.

B (28:58)

What when we. So the Thursday night games, those you better not have a bad showing on a Thursday night because we ain't got nothing to do on Friday. You better not. You better not show. So the thing on the Thursday night is worse because the Monday night we still going to talk about what happened on the weekend. We going to start with what happened last night. But when you had a Thursday night game we ain't projecting nothing. You give us something to talk about. So this is similar to that because it's a Monday night game on the playoffs and it's, it's also the Steelers, they're like one of these public teams that everyone loves to talk about and you better hope there's some, some madness over the weekend because if it's not. But I guess it doesn't matter because it feels like if there's any ownership group that doesn't respond to the fans Outrage. It might be the Steelers, but we are going to tear his ass up on Tuesday morning if it don't look good on Monday night.

A (29:48)

And, and the part of it is when they lose these games and they don't play well.

B (29:54)

Right.

A (29:55)

It don't be looking in spite of him.

B (29:58)

Nah.

A (29:58)

Like he's, he keeps it. And I don't mean this pejoratively but it's, it's not a complex approach. At least it doesn't seem like to what they do there. Right. It's kind of a do what you're supposed to do and then everything from there will work itself out. But they run it up on a team that's just got a different level of talent than they have especially I.

B (30:17)

Mean obviously on defense. So like they, this actually is not the worst matchup for them is like they, their front could potentially their defensive front could dominate the Texans offense which could keep the game close. But in their favor is they don't have to start throwing short passes and screens just because they scared of this pass rush. They scared of every pass rush. They, that's their offense. So that would be the argument for them. But there's no weak spots on, on this defense. And the Steelers offense, they get DK back which helps but they don't feel like they have an advantage anywhere on that side of the ball.

A (30:57)

Yeah. Now I can take this back to coaching carousel. Cause that carousel ain't really finished. Saturday night might be Matt LaFleur's last game as the coach of the packers. Sunday at 1 o'. Clock. Lowkey could be Sean McDermott's last game because they got the Jackson. They, they, they play against Jacksonville on the road and it just ain't for so long that you can keep going with this kind of what happened with Harbaugh, there's only been so long that coach and quarterback can keep going and not wind up at least playing for the championship before somebody decides to make a decision. And LaFleur, I don't really know what's going on there. I seem to think more highly of him than his bosses do.

B (31:33)

Yeah, I, I think that those, those situations are slightly different in that the Bill situation seems obviously much more like the Lamar situation where they gonna holla at my man after he's all said and done and be like, hey, hey, Menace, do you believe? All right, we good. And if the Menace take it, take a second to think about it, they're gonna be like, oh, what's it like? Let's go look around. But I think the Lafleur thing in Green Bay is definitely different. And Stefanski became attractive candidate because of this year's, like, crop as soon as he got fired. I think that lafleur, his contract is expiring soon. Right. That's the major situation there. Like, he'll be an extension next year.

A (32:19)

I think will be the lame duck year.

B (32:21)

Oh, next year will be the lame duck year.

A (32:22)

I think so. I think so.

B (32:24)

Right, right, right. So he has one more year. Yeah. No one ever. Coaches don't go into a contract with the final year of contract. Like, it never really happens unless it's one of these particularly cheap teams. So, like, this is the extension time, Right? So he has the rest of this year and then next year, right?

A (32:39)

Yes.

C (32:40)

Yeah.

B (32:40)

So normally because. And whether it's true or not, but because they want the coach to have ultimate power and respect in the locker room, they won't let a coach coach as lame duck season. So this is effectively a year where they have to give an extension or move on from them. So he might be looking around. The problem is he got a quarterback in a. In a team that seems to consistently with Guta Kunst. Goody, man, he be feeling that roster, man, consistently. Like, I wouldn't want to go nowhere. However, he might be someone who's like, man, let me get up out of here. Because right now it's a buyer's market, man. It's a buyer's market. And he might want to get out there as a quarterback guy because that's. There's tons of good defensive assistance out there, but if you are a mediocre offensive guy, they're going to move you to the top of the list because they have this foolish misconception that they're smarter over there than we are over here.

A (33:32)

Now, can you imagine a world in which Lamar Jackson tries to get himself out of Baltimore because he kind of could if he wanted to. Right? Like, no guaranteed money left on his deal. Um, a crazy high cap. Like, they have to. They gotta do something with his deal pronto.

B (33:46)

Yeah. I mean, I assume that this was the first step. And that's the interesting thing about, like, I know the thing about him not having an agent comes up often, but him not having an agent and also him not being like, super gregarious is like, I wouldn't have made this move unless I had an understanding. Like, I would love in him being unique in that way is I would normally make the leap that they got that figured out. Right. It's like this was a conversation if this was just about Any other player, I'd be like, oh, well, if they did that, that mean they got that figured out because they don't want to end up in a world where they have neither of those guys. Right?

A (34:24)

Well, I just know. I just know our man Kravitz had a great idea. Lamar forced himself to Atlanta. Lafleur, find your way to Atlanta and let Matt LaFleur have Lamar Jackson, Bijon Robinson, Kyle Pitts and Drake London. Now, of course the Falcons don't have a first round pick this year with would make it very difficult for them to make that move. But good God, if that happened, they.

B (34:42)

Never have to throw in that division playing bums. Go ahead and get that by every year. Go ahead and get that by every year. They keep the, keep the coordinator, defensive coordinator.

A (34:57)

Hey, you ever think that Arthur Blank feel bad about holding the line about that Lamar, Lamar Jackson thing a couple years ago when they was all colluding to not give him some deal? I'm like, you was too old to be acting like this, dog.

B (35:12)

That's. I, I don't know, man. I can't imagine that.

A (35:15)

That.

B (35:16)

It's so dumb.

A (35:17)

I'm saying Arthur Blank. Arthur Blank renegotiating his deal. You know what I'm saying? Every year, there's a big cap hit looming right around the corner every day for Arthur Blank. And instead of finding a way to make it happen with renegotiate.

B (35:32)

Nah, man.

A (35:34)

He should have been like, fuck y'. All. What you want, young man? You come play for us.

B (35:39)

Yeah, y' all can be.

A (35:40)

I mean, y' all wind up. They traded picks to get what the James Pierce dude, didn't they? Did they have to move some stuff around to get. No, they did not move things around to get Michael Penix. They just gave Kirk Cousins a zillion dollars. Come on. And then drafted a quarterback with a first round pick. Come on, dog, that was absurd.

B (35:57)

Especially when Lamar was gettable. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

A (36:02)

Nah. What you think about that 49ers Eagles game? Because I watched the 49ers play last week for the first time and I don't know how long. And I told you they had 11 dudes on defense. I ain't never heard of 10 of them in the 11th. I saw Patrick Mahomes walk through on the goal line one time.

B (36:17)

Yeah, they, they in trouble, man. And you saw that offense that seemed unstoppable get stopped by a really good defense. They going up against another really good defense and I think. Which will, if nothing else, slow that offense. But their defense is not a sophisticated, complicated defense. And when you have something like that, you gotta have players. Right? You can't. Like. I'd say Brian Flores, I think, will elevate guys and take. He's capable of taking guys because the defense will trick and confuse people. That 49ers, since Kyle Shanahan's been there and through a number of coordinators, it's never been complicated. It's like, we gonna whoop that ass and we're not gonna confuse ourselves. We're gonna play zone on the back end and whoop that ass up front. You ain't got no ass whoopers up there no more, man.

A (37:09)

Right.

B (37:09)

Like, I. You saw what the Eagles look like when they played some bad defenses late in the season. They played the Raiders and they played the Commanders. They scored. They moved the ball. So I don't.

A (37:20)

I don't.

B (37:20)

I don't see the. It's nuts. Cause the 49ers were a few points away from being the number one overall seed, but honestly, don't see them putting up too much of a fight against the Eagles.

A (37:28)

If they had won that game, they wouldn't have had to lead a crib until 2026. Well, I guess it is 2026, but you understand what I'm saying. The official 2026 season, they would have had home field advantage, and the super bowl was at the crib. If they managed to get that far. Now, they was never going to get that far.

B (37:45)

They guess they healthy, man.

A (37:47)

Nah, look, man, I just need the Eagles to keep it fun, baby. That's. That's the thing about this. If the Eagles could just keep. There's a road game, too, so you never know what might happen. Like, the Eagles need to just keep this close and then barely win. And Sirianni seemed way too confident in himself. So we can have clips of AJ Brown looking at him again. Like, look. Look at. Look at. Look at this. You see that? Look at this fool, man.

B (38:10)

Yeah, after that Bills game, man, it was a bad throw, man. It was a bad throw. And some great defense by young Vic Fangio. I guess not young, but Vic Fangio and those guys that he was. He was walking through the locker room or walking through that tunnel like. Like he just adjusted the shit out of that thing. Like, he out adjusted everybody at halftime.

A (38:31)

Like, man, they, like, AJ does not take you seriously at all.

B (38:39)

You saw Miles Garrett rolling his eyes. That's the fastest.

A (38:42)

I was like, oh, my God, that was so faze. Like, I don't lie. And he was like.

B (38:49)

It was Magical.

A (38:50)

Like, you think we don't know that? Like that. That was that. Honestly, if I had been Jimmy Haslam and I had been thinking about keeping him and then I saw that video. Nah, you gotta go, dog.

B (39:02)

Yeah. To be fair, you can go on the roster, any roster, and find some players who don't like that coach. But if it's Miles Garrett giving the side eye, we can't play that well.

A (39:13)

Hold on. It's the side eye. And he wasn't side eyeing into space. He clearly had locked eyes with somebody else. Clearly. They be talking that. That sounded like they be talking all the time about how he be lying.

B (39:27)

He's like, I don't lie. Have I ever lied to you?

A (39:32)

I would love to get a list like the NFLPA needs to do that, where they got. Take the survey of the facilities and the cafeteria and all those different things. Like a list of who be lying. Like. Like a Pinocchio index of coaches where they just be lying. Like, they be lying about stuff that you ain't even got to lie about.

B (39:53)

Yeah. That's the thing, is that the coaches who should be against the PA doing something like that are the coaches who don't lie. Because you know what that's going to do? That's going to encourage the rest of y' all to be decent. Yes. That might make you better coaches. Like, we not stupid. We know what's going on here. Tell me the truth and I'll believe in you. I'll run through a wall. Tell me the truth.

A (40:18)

Oh, no, see, this is where I disagree with you. It's because them cats that just be lying, it's a lifestyle. So you can tell everybody that they be lying. And you know what they gonna do? Lie about the fact that they be lying.

B (40:32)

That's fair.

A (40:33)

Like, there's no. There's. There's no. There's no truth that a lie can't fix.

B (40:38)

True. You don't think that there is. So, yeah, I agree that there are some people I've been around long enough to know. Some people, they just. They just be lying. But you don't think there's like some middle ground of people who are lying for advantage or lying for ease. It's like, I go see this player, it's much easier to tell him that he got a chance to make this team and that he's starting or he's benched because the guy in front of him is better than him or the guy in front of him, or you tell him whatever you gotta tell him. This guy is. He's better in this position because of whatever reason then to be honest and be like, look, we got a lot of money tied up in him. He gonna get all the chances, or.

A (41:16)

Is this a matter of. Cause the guys that you just described right there, they don't have that much leverage. So like finding out who be lying, they don't really get to do something about it. How about if we could somehow, like, you know how you gotta like adjust the DVO way adjusted net yards per attempt, right? The lion is adjusted for how good a player is or is not. Like, you can't be lying to your best player, but you can lie to these bums. Maybe you got a little bit more leeway in that regard.

B (41:47)

I like next gen lion statistics. We got the advanced analytics on live away.

A (41:52)

Like, we all live away, right? Like, like, is it different? And so people don't know how DVOA works. It works from down to down. And so if you get 10 yards on first and on. On second and eight, that is treated as more impactful than getting 10 yards on second and 17. Right. It's as a function of yards to go is the way that they come up with the formula. And so, yeah, man, if you, you know, these third and 18 cats on the bottom tell them all kinds of lies, you know, but that third and one up there, you better be straight up with him.

B (42:26)

I can't tell you no lies, man. That's absolutely right, brother.

A (42:31)

I can't even lie. I can't lie to you.

B (42:33)

Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real with you. Like, you can tell who you wanna tell. Maybe you can tell them the truth, but I'm gonna keep it real with you. Oh, gosh.

A (42:42)

And in football, it seemed like the kind of place where, like, you might as well just tell the truth.

B (42:48)

That's my thought, man. Like, I. I never got the coaches who was out there lying to anybody, even, even the, the second and 18 guys. Like, we ain't dumb. We know the deal. Why, by the time you got here, especially these modern players who are in college in a way that's more professional than it's ever been, who are transferring from year to year. Like, let's keep it real, man. Like, my hands are tied on some things. I want to do this. I know Jeff told on my show the other day, Saturday was talking about how his O line coach back in the day was like, look, we all working towards the same thing. I'm gonna tell you how I wanna do it. If you do it your way out there better work but if you do it my way, I can tell you how to fix it. But, like, we all gonna get fired. Like, I don't wanna fight you. That's the thing that coaches making that mistake all the time where it's like, it's such. They're so like, incentivized to be top down. It's like the best teams I ever been around was the ones where we was much closer to peers and we could be honest about it. Like, yeah, we gotta do this. I don't feel comfortable about this matchup. You know what? I would never say that to anybody who I didn't trust and believe in. Right? Nah, this is lying. I got him. Don't worry. I got him.

A (43:58)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

B (43:59)

Worried as hell. No, I don't roll no safety over here. You know how many times I told him I ain't need no safety help? Never tell nobody I need no safety help. But I was hoping, I was hoping that he knew.

A (44:11)

You want to slide a little something over there, baby, that'll.

B (44:14)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, if you need it somewhere else, go ahead, you put it over there. But I'm just saying, if he ain't spoken for, if you ain't doing nothing else, bring him on over here.

A (44:27)

Just a couple steps. A couple steps. Yeah.

B (44:30)

This show, this show some color over there.

A (44:32)

Hey, how bad would it look for Justin Herbert if Drake if are they going on the road to play against New England, but if Drake made a quarterback over there and he outplays Justin Herbert, I mean, let's not forget Justin Herbert was out there when they blew that lead to the Jaguars that year.

B (44:49)

I think the thing with Justin Herbert is he's got so much. He's already got the built in excuse. I think we look at this season for Justin Herbert already as a demonstration and over and overcoming. Like, it's. It's not only that he lost his tackles is that that team was built around having two incredible tackles. So it's not. And you didn't go from like having one good tackle or two mediocre tackles to having like bad offensive line. You went from saying like, yeah, we don't got the best receiver in the league, but you know, we got, we got these tackles and we can do whatever we want with that. So like, ultimately, I think if you, if I'd have told you, not if I'd have told you before this season started when they was all hurt, I was like, damn lost year. So it feels unfair. Well, maybe people will do it, but honestly, it feels unfair. To. I guess it depends on how he plays, but it feels unfair to then go and be like, hey, Justin Herbert, you do stink. Nah, kind of. Kind of overachieved. All things considered.

A (45:51)

I want to bring up one last thing before we start wrapping this up to get out of here. And I don't know if you saw this. What? You know about Ginger Cuz?

B (46:03)

Nah, this, like, hold on, hold on.

A (46:05)

You don't know about Ginger Cuz? Hold on. I gotta send you. I've been saving this all week to send you to show you Ginger Cuz. I don't really understand. Like, I want to know the full thought process on this. But for those who don't know, I've just sent this to Dominique, and I think that they'll be able to put this on the screen for YouTube. But when the Seahawks were named division champs, Marshawn lynch sent out a tweet, and it was a picture with a bunch of guys on the team, and the demographics were largely as an NFL team goes. And Marshawn lynch sent a tweet because Marshawn lynch somehow gets to say whatever he wants. And his tweet said, and I will quote, but not quote, good shit, young N words. And then it's like he looked around the room and said, and ginger cuz. In reference to Sam Darnold. So Sam Darnold is now hashtag Ginger Cuz.

B (46:58)

You know what? The thing that jumps out to me the most is, like, if I'm Cooper cup, am I complimented or offended? Like, right. Are you. What, are you including me or are you excluding me? Like, am I part of the crew?

A (47:11)

Well, first of all, in this picture, Cooper cup look like he in the same rap group with that white boy off of Beverly Hills 90210 that used to be rapping like, he got curls and stuff. Like, he looked like he. He looked like he had a boy band out there. Right?

B (47:26)

Yeah, but he the bad boy, though. But he the bad boy got the leather jacket and holy jeans.

A (47:31)

That's fair. But, yeah, he calls. He calls Sam Darl, Ginger C. Have you seen Marcus Teague, Jeff teague's brother, on 520 telling the story about how they was somewhere and he was with the Celtics and Jason Collins was on the team, and they. I think they gone to China somewhere. And again, we're going to paraphrase here. And Kevin Garnett's getting everybody hype, and he's like, yeah, we gonna have all the girls.

B (47:56)

Hell, yeah.

A (47:57)

And then he looked at Jason Collins and was like, oh, we gonna get something for you too.

B (48:04)

We got some.

A (48:05)

We gonna get something for you too. And that's kind of how Ginger cuz felt like keeping in mind that he could have just completely edited his tweet. He said written a bit differently to include everybody. No, no, no.

B (48:23)

That's not. That is not a good tweet. An edited tweet is not a good tweet. You would not have shared it with me if he was like, you know what? Let me fix this. Let me call them my brothers. Nah, I can't include that. Yeah. He said, and Ginger Cuz kg, man, I did see that story. And it's funny. It's how I feel about, like, we gotta remember it's progress, you know?

A (48:48)

Yes.

B (48:49)

Like, and it don't always. I imagine that Kevin Garnett grew up a lot like we grew up as far as, like, the way that you feel and think about things and the way that people around you talk about.

A (48:58)

That was a big jump up for him. For him to be like, don't worry, brother. We will find what works for you.

B (49:03)

And I. This. This is something I've been thinking about. And maybe this is something that I should not share. Maybe I will share it at some. Or maybe you'll edit it out or whatever. But it's like, when I think back on times when we could have done something better as a society, you gotta congratulate people for progress that they made. I agree. Like, that was the big thing. Like, I get it. My football mindset is, let's get better. That one's behind us. Let's get better. And while we should celebrate the people who are in the places who have overcome, we also got to remember to celebrate the people who encouraged and allowed it to overcome. Like, February need to be about them too, brother.

A (49:51)

Do you know how much I would love to see some video of Kevin Gar. Kevin Garnett on the streets of Shanghai trying to find a man for Jason Collins. Like, no, not me. My. My friend. He over there.

B (50:08)

He's so determined, too. I don't think he would let the language and getting away. That man, he gonna bang his head on the stanchion and then hit the streets like, hey, what's up? What you think?

A (50:18)

You all right talking with his hands, right? Because you gotta talk with your hands when you don't speak the language. Right. Like, you just gotta. It's like playing charades. Like, you're gonna try to. Yeah, this.

B (50:29)

This is. This is definitely put. Not on the air, like the head, the hand, just the Hand motions.

A (50:34)

We keeping this like he's trying. I'm not saying which hand motion.

B (50:37)

No, no, no, no. I'm saying. Yeah, I'm saying the next part where. Where I was going after that. You wishing to communicate what you want to communicate? No, no, no. I just.

A (50:47)

I just. The next question for Marshawn lynch is, does he know Sam Darnold's name? Like, did he look at that picture and was left uncertain which was Cooper cup and which was Sam Darn.

B (51:03)

I think the prominence of the photo assumed it was a quarterback. I think it's more likely that he did not know his name, which, like, is consistent with the trajectory that Marshawn lynch is on as like, he's headed fast for like cool ass old dude and cool ass old dude. Don't know nobody name nicknames for everybody.

A (51:25)

What if he was like, hey, cuz, I ain't know Andy Dalton was still playing Cuz.

B (51:30)

Ginger Cuz. I'm sure that's gonna get picked up. They probably got the T shirts printed already. There gonna be people at the game like Ginger Cuz. Better get it together though.

A (51:40)

By the way, we gonna talk about them next week. Cause they don't play this week. Cause they had the best record in the nfc. They are really good. And it really does only come down to Ginger Cuz.

B (51:55)

Boy, like, they. They were fortunate. So I did that game with the playbook telecast. So like we dive deep into the X of the O. It's the first time I like kind of called the game. And in preparing for that game, I watched so much film and was not surprised at what I saw on the field by the film that I watched. And he made a really great play on the third and 10 where he scrambled. So somebody got open and connected it late in the game. But the way that they were calling that game and the. You get the all 22 when you. When you watch the playbook way. And it was not great, man. It was not great. They got so fortunate that that 49ers defense couldn't stop the run. They're a team that doesn't run the ball well. They ran it well better recently or lately, but they don't run the ball well. They're most likely going to run into some teams that's going to force Ginger Cuz to make some plays. And the coaches don't believe in Ginger Cuz at this point.

A (52:45)

Dude, it's year eight of this and we still hold they still. I ain't going to say we because it's they. And yeah, I Mean, they still hold now hope for Jinder Cuz. Man, they refuse to give up on Jinder Cuz.

B (52:59)

But to be fair to them, as soon as they was ready to give up on him, he was supposed to be a bench warmer in Minnesota. He went off.

A (53:08)

He did. He did. But hey, look. But look at the way the year before the Shanahan was talking about him like it was still like we are in a world where the platonic ideal quarterback for the most like the kind of prototype not type now for offensive mind is Kirk Cousins. That is so insane. Like, that is the.

B (53:31)

I feel like we moved.

A (53:33)

I mean that's what Kyle has said for all this time. The fact that his brain ever said that. But all these guys, it's the new west coast offense in the sense that they just like, hey, if you just do what I say, but you got to lose. And it's never that simple, guys. Yeah.

B (53:49)

And I mean Kyle stumbled into a guy, excuse me, in Purdy, who is not that.

A (53:55)

That is very true.

B (53:57)

He's not that. Like the one thing that I'll give Purdy that falls into that category is he will trust the play.

A (54:04)

Yes.

B (54:05)

And he'll throw like he talks about this often. He'll throw blindly. But Purdy, my man, hit that Dougie like he is his. His playstyle is consistent with the way that he behaves out there. And I think you gotta have some of that. You gotta have a little bit of that variable out there. And Ginger cuz don't bring that variable too much, man.

A (54:25)

High stakes for Jinder cuz we gonna see. But that is Dominique Foxworth. Check him out on the Dominique Foxworth show available where all fine podcasts giving away for free. My brother, I appreciate you.

B (54:37)

Thank you, sir.

C (54:38)

All right, Bo, before we get out of here, we're gonna do three quick questions presented by FanDuel. Peachbowl is tonight Oregon playing Indiana. Indiana favored by three and a half points. Do you expect this big run by Indiana and Kurt Signetti to continue tonight?

A (54:54)

I expect it to continue. They look, they beat Oregon in their own house a couple of months ago. Maybe Dan Lanning will just cook up the magic formula to come out here and beat them. But I have no reason to think that Indiana is going to lose to anybody based on what we've seen.

C (55:09)

Right? I mean, they've had the best coach all year. They've had, you know, we've had our questions about Mendoza, but he's been the best quarterback all year. And on a neutral site, you know, it sort of just Feels like their year, you know, everything that's happened. Reports came out Thursday. Kurt Signetti looks like he's getting the contract extension. Going to be paid 12 and a half million dollars per year. Mark Cuban's coming in on their nil. Do you think he's the best coach in college football right now?

A (55:35)

I mean, he had the best coaching season in the world. I say the world, and I mean that literally. Right. Last year.

C (55:43)

Right.

A (55:44)

And then he did it again this year, except even better. It's the most impressive coaching thing that I could think of, anybody ever pulling off who's better. If somebody's better. I can't. I can't tell you who that person is right now. Like, it's almost at that point now where, like, when you talk about who you're. Who the greatest rapper of all time is, maybe you don't have the same answer as me, but there's some people who have to be in the discussion.

B (56:08)

Right.

A (56:08)

This man in two years has absolutely put himself at the top of the discussion.

C (56:12)

Right. You go 25 and 2 at Indiana and, you know.

A (56:15)

Yeah.

C (56:16)

And Bloomington, of all places. And then, you know, currently the favorites to win the national title, and the.

A (56:22)

Two were against Ohio State, Notre Dame last year, if I recall.

C (56:25)

Right. The team. Yeah. Ohio State, who won the national title last year, and Notre Dame, who was the runner up. Yes. So that's again, an absurd job from a coach coming from James Madison. And finally, a lot of rumors have come around as quarterbacks start to clear for the draft, what Oregon quarterback Dante Moore is going to do. If you were Dante Moore, would you stay at Oregon and get drafted to get possibly drafted by the New York Jets?

A (56:49)

Hey, man, for the money that it looked like these college quarterbacks are getting, I would much rather make $5 million a year playing for Oregon than to make $10 million a year playing for the fucking Jets. I can't make this any clearer. I mean, there's. There's. There's no way around it. No, no, no, no, no. If I can keep getting this money and living this college life, or I could go live with the misery that has been the Jets. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Like, if they told you you could play against the jets, at least then, you know, you never throw any interceptions. Maybe we talking about something different. Right? But we not. We talk about playing for the Jets, I would keep. I would stay with this good money I'm getting right now. All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining us here on the right time. We do this four times a week. Ryan Brumley handing everything behind the scenes. Thank you sir. Also remember, hit the voicemail line 323-59-67767. Remember, follow the right time, subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater and we'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy. Foreign.

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