Domonique Foxworth reacts to Daniel Jones Getting PAID, Ravens Next Steps & Geno’s Jets Reunion | 3.12

Summary

The Right Time with Bomani Jones – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Domonique Foxworth reacts to Daniel Jones Getting PAID, Ravens Next Steps & Geno’s Jets Reunion
Date: March 12, 2026
Host: Bomani Jones
Guest: Domonique Foxworth (plus two recurring guest analysts)

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into NFL offseason chaos, including the surprise mega-deal for Daniel Jones, the dysfunctional Ravens-Raiders trade saga, and the unexpected reunion between Geno Smith and the New York Jets. Anchored by Bomani Jones' sharp analysis, humor, and trademark honesty, the conversation navigates the business and emotion of football, with reflections on quarterback value, organizational reputations, the relentless churn of NFL media deals, and what truly drives focus and desperation in athletes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Wild Night in Sports – Setting the Scene

[01:16 – 06:27]

• The group riffs on a particularly chaotic Tuesday in sports, with last-minute news disrupting their show planning.
• Lively banter about the World Baseball Classic’s manufactured sense of patriotism, the arbitrary assembling of national teams (“Colonial games”), and why Americans find contrived sporting events compelling.
• Notable Quote:
  Bomani Jones: “It is a totally contrived event, right? ...I bristle at the idea of playing for your country. You are playing on the American team in this shit they made up.” [04:05]

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2. Daniel Jones’ Staggering New Contract & QB Market Dynamics

[06:37 – 14:18]

• Daniel Jones’ surprising 2-year, $88 million deal (up to $100M potential) with $50M guaranteed is dissected.
• Consensus: Jones’ payday is more a product of circumstances and management desperation than elite play (“Kirk Cousins-esque, but unfair to Kirk”).
• Injury concerns: Jones is coming off both an Achilles tear and a broken leg, making the contract especially confounding.
• The conversation pivots to QB valuation, trade rumors (Anthony Richardson, Kyler Murray), and the politics of NFL decision-making.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Dominique Foxworth: “He’s never had a great season...That is not the type of player that you want to… extend.” [09:18]
  • Bomani Jones: “Man, they love giving Daniel Jones...Just finding a reason to get that boy some money.” [10:10]

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3. Kyler Murray, Contract Year Pressures, and the Science of Focus

[14:18 – 19:47]

• Foxworth on the mental toll of a “let’s get this money” season—drawing from personal experience of being traded before a critical contract year.
• Deep reflection on how necessity and desperation (“can’t go back”) fuel athlete focus, citing legends like Ray Lewis, Michael Jordan, and the infamous “mom superpower” anecdote.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Dominique Foxworth: “Focus is a resource...there’s nothing stronger than can’t go back.” [16:22, 16:25]
  • Bomani Jones: “We clearly recognize there’s only a certain endowment of this because people spend all kind of money on dope...to get it back.” [19:47]

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4. Ravens’ Messy Trade, Fallout, and NFL Organizational Reputation

[20:41 – 29:15]

• Dissects the Ravens-Raiders (Max Crosby) trade debacle: rejected physicals, deals walked back, lingering reputational damage.
• Extended analogy sequence: contracts as open-box returns, “European strings attached,” and how pass/fail for a physical (“the line moves” [22:05]) is subject to context.
• Discusses how a long-standing good reputation in the NFL can be undone by a single misstep.
• Notable Quote:
  Guest Analyst: "Pierre the bridge builder was the greatest bridge builder. ...Then somebody caught him doing something once...and from then on nobody called him Pierre the bridge builder.” [27:56] (On how one mistake overwrites years of good work.)

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5. Geno Smith’s Jets Reunion: Second Chances & QB Mobility

[33:43 – 39:05]

• Breaking down the full-circle moment: Geno Smith (after difficult years and a benching) returns to the NY Jets, a team with a tortured QB carousel since he left.
• List of post-Geno Jets QBs highlighted to illustrate franchise-level mismanagement.
• Discussion on opportunities for so-called “journeyman” QBs this offseason—“mobility for just kind of regular dudes.”
• Notable Quotes:
  • Bomani Jones: “...the run of quarterbacks they had post Geno...if they had just waited and given him a little bit more time, but apparently they should have had Geno Smith as the quarterback for 13 years.” [37:09]
  • Dominique Foxworth: “...if there’s someone in this marriage...that should feel...appreciative, it’s the Jets fans, the Jets organization.” [37:33]

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6. The Rising Tide of Quarterback Talent and NFL Evolution

[39:05 – 41:17]

• With veteran QBs aging, the league enjoys a “flush” period as a new wave (Mahomes, Allen, Lamar) approaches “old guy” status sooner than it feels.
• Debate: is this a golden age of QBs, or will the churn and grind soon catch up?

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7. NFL Scheduling: The Risks of Over-Saturation

[43:32 – 48:30]

• NFL’s rumored plans to add new marquee games (Thanksgiving Eve/Wednesday).
• Bomani critiques “event dilution”—by spreading games across every possible date/platform, the NFL risks losing the “sanctity” of Sunday.
• Comparison: MLB’s diluted Opening Day and NBA’s injury issues from overloading schedules.
• Notable Quotes:
  • Bomani Jones: “What they are diluting is the day. Sunday. ...I would be trying to figure out how do we protect the sanctity of Sunday?” [46:43]
  • Dominique Foxworth: “This is about the transition that happens for many great art forms—from art to capitalism. ...The more you sell, sell, sell, the cheaper it all becomes.” [44:58]

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8. TV Rights, Media Consolidation & the NFL’s Economic Future

[48:30 – 50:41]

• Potential danger: as TV/media consolidates further, only a few corporate buyers may remain for NFL broadcast rights, reducing league leverage.
• Explains the diamond analogy: “It don’t matter how beautiful your diamonds are if your customers don’t got the bread.”
• Speculates NFL’s biggest future risk is not oversaturation, but a shrinking pool of buyers.
• Notable Quote:
  Bomani Jones: “That is something I had not considered...with all this media consolidation, man. ...they have to find a way to make sure there are enough bidders in the market.” [49:14]

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9. Lighter/Closing Notes: World Cup and Miscellany

[50:41 – End]

• Playful quips about Iran not participating in the (soccer) World Cup, hypothetical US-Iran LA matchups, and typical closing callouts to the guest and producers.

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Timestamped Memorable Quotes

• [04:05] Bomani Jones: “It is a totally contrived event, right? ...I bristle at the idea of playing for your country. You are playing on the American team in this shit they made up.”
• [09:18] Dominique Foxworth: “He’s never had a great season...That is not the type of player that you want to… extend.”
• [10:10] Bomani Jones: “Man, they love giving Daniel Jones...Just finding a reason to get that boy some money.”
• [16:22] Dominique Foxworth: “Focus is a resource...”
• [16:25] Dominique Foxworth: “There’s nothing stronger than can’t go back.”
• [19:47] Bomani Jones: “We clearly recognize that...people spend all kind of money on dope...to get it back.”
• [27:56] Guest Analyst: “Pierre the bridge builder was the greatest bridge builder... then somebody caught him doing something once...and from then on nobody called him Pierre the bridge builder.”
• [37:09] Bomani Jones: “...they should have had Geno Smith as the quarterback for 13 years.”
• [46:43] Bomani Jones: “What they are diluting is the day. Sunday...”
• [44:58] Dominique Foxworth: “The more you sell, sell, sell, the cheaper it all becomes.”

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Final Thoughts

This episode delivers a wide-ranging, insightful, and entertaining discussion on today’s NFL: how money, media, reputation, and psychology all swirl into the sport’s relentless headlines and decisions. Bomani and crew blend humor, sharp critique, and personal anecdotes, making the analysis not just rich in information but memorable and relatable—whether it’s corporate TV strategy, a QB’s “contract year” desperation, or recalling thirty years of the Jets’ quarterback chaos.

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For full context or deeper nuance, listen to key segments:

• Daniel Jones’ contract debate [06:37–14:18]
• Ravens-Raiders trade analogy & fallout [20:41–29:15]
• Geno Smith Jets reunion discussion [33:43–39:05]
• NFL schedule/TV rights debate [43:32–50:41]

Transcript

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[Bomani Jones]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time A Wave original. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. It is Foxworth Thursday.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. Dominique Foxworth.

[Guest Analyst 1]

What's going on Tuesday night, the ridiculous night in sports.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Man, I just thought I was gonna

[Guest Analyst 1]

be chilling in New York, hanging out, having a good time, then watch a little bit of tennis, watch a little bit of Wimby vs Celtics and then shit fell apart. I'm watching Bam out of Bayou against the Wiz and and then the Max Crosby thing happens and all the emails that I sent and show preparation for get up the next morning. Worthless. Wasting my time doing research, preparing for that.

[Bomani Jones]

And y' all wind up in a wild thing with get up on that. Cause I see what they gotta do. They gotta get some basketball people on deck, they got the football people on deck and then we just go see that baseball.

[Dominique Foxworth]

They try to squeeze baseball in there.

[Bomani Jones]

Oh, that's right.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Apparently the manager of the USA team don't understand how to make it to

[Dominique Foxworth]

the out of the pool stage into the knockout round.

[Bomani Jones]

Oh man, I felt so bad for him. Somebody gave him some bad information and so he thought that they was in and then they wouldn't in. And then they went and lost to Italy. They went and lost to the Fighting Tyre co in that game. And so I the World Baseball Classic is interesting because it's only a very small number of countries that should really be participating in this that like actually have the manpower to do this. It is the United States. It is the Dominican. I guess Puerto Rico gets to Compete as itself. Venezuela, you guys can participate in this. But that's really just about it, brother. Otherwise, they just be making shit up to get these cats.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, Japan, right?

[Bomani Jones]

Oh, yeah, Japan. Japan and South Korea, right? They could put this together. But I saw that Jose Contreras son. Jose Contreras, who, by the way, is from Cuba. His son is 17 years old, and he plays in the Atlanta metro area, and he played for Brazil. I can't think of a single Brazilian baseball player off the top of my head.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Don't Klay Thompson, brother, play for the British team?

[Bomani Jones]

Wow, that's interesting.

[Dominique Foxworth]

The best. Klay Thompson.

[Bomani Jones]

That's right. Bahamas. They daddy from the. Like, they're really doing some Colonial games in order to make this happen.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I mean, the US Team doesn't seem to care all that much. Like. But I can't imagine that any of these other countries really care. I think we got some cool moments when it's like, we got Ohtani pitching to Trout like last.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like, we had some cool moments, but overall. And so it's surprising that the ratings

[Guest Analyst 1]

actually are, like, better than you would expect. I guess we just like anything patriotic right now, maybe. I don't know.

[Bomani Jones]

I think it's a cool event in large part because for Americans, you get to watch people have fun playing baseball, which you have never seen before, right? Like. Like those Dominican cats. You know them cats from around there. Once you see them play, it's just a whole different situation. Like, it is a totally contrived event, right? I bristle at the idea of playing for your country. You are playing on the American team in this shit they made up. You know what I mean? Like, this is not if you do it, if you really doing it for your country, here's what you be like this. You understand what I'm saying? Like, you go have a hat that's flat on the top. If you're really doing this, like, for your country, this is just an event that they put together.

[Guest Analyst 1]

So you said it's totally contrived. I agree with that. But when.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How many years does something have to

[Guest Analyst 1]

go on before it's not totally contrived?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Because is it everything totally contrived in the beginning? Like, aren't all leagues totally contrived?

[Bomani Jones]

I'm not. No, what I am saying is the contrived part is the idea that this is about something bigger.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Okay, yeah, right.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, it's the America team and they playing, right. Playing for your country. Mike Piazza, when he did this, he was playing for Italy because they needed some people on the Italy team. I have no idea how many of them cats on the Israel team are actually Israelis or, you know, from somewhere in America and putting on for Israel.

[Dominique Foxworth]

The, I mean, it's, there are good

[Guest Analyst 1]

games, so I'll enjoy watching my kids compete. It's because I know who the good guys are and I know who the bad guys are. And, like, I have some stake in it, you know, like, my team is the good guys. And the same thing, when you watch a team that you care about, it is hard, which is why a lot of people gamble.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And it's hard to get into games

[Guest Analyst 1]

with two teams that you're not moved by or players that you don't know or care about.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's the secret shortcut to this is you turn it on and you know who the good guys are.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Oh, well, all right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You know who you're rooting for and you know who you rooted against because it makes it pretty clear. So that's, that's a little bit of the cheat code, because I'd be much

[Guest Analyst 1]

more willing to watch that than it's just like a random regular season baseball game that I don't care.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, usa. All right, let's go, team.

[Bomani Jones]

No, no, you're right.

[Guest Analyst 2]

All that's fair.

[Bomani Jones]

There are some stakes.

[Guest Analyst 2]

They're there.

[Bomani Jones]

But now it's a fun.

[Guest Analyst 2]

I, I, I can see why people watch it, right? Like, I, I get that.

[Bomani Jones]

Let me tell you what I don't

[Guest Analyst 2]

get, and I really don't get this. You tell me if I'm tripping here. Last show we did with Danny Parkins, we talked about how Daniel Jones is out here asking $50 million a year when the Colts were like, you will take this 37 and you will like it. But it actually turns out they were not saying, you will take this 37 and you like it. They came around right after we had recorded that, and they are Giving Daniel Jones two year deal, $88 million base, 50 million guaranteed at signing, 60 million guaranteed for injury, maximum value for $100 million. And you watch these things more closely than I do. Daniel Jones looked like to me something we've seen many, many times, which is somebody gets in a new situation and gets off to a hot start. And then everybody was like, wait a minute, man, this Daniel Jones. And then he went back to playing

[Bomani Jones]

like Daniel Jones before he suffered an Achilles injury. So this is a world where somebody's falling over themselves to give him $50 million. And the Arizona Cardinals are willing to eat 30 something million dollars to tell Kyler Murray Who I'm pretty sure is a better player to go away 60

[Guest Analyst 1]

million to tell Tua to beat it.

[Bomani Jones]

Right.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Who's had a better season? Maybe you wouldn't argue he's a better player, but at least has had a better season.

[Bomani Jones]

When did Daniel Jones to a guy you paid $50 million to?

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Far be it for me to knock

[Guest Analyst 1]

anybody for getting their money. However, this seems like a situation where the circumstances have worked in his benefit. It's Kurt Cousins esque. And that the circumstances work to your benefit in such way.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But it's not even fair to Kirk Cousins because Kirk Cousins has put together

[Guest Analyst 1]

a longer stretch and more impressive career than I think Daniel Jones has at this point.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And before you even get to the

[Guest Analyst 1]

Achilles part, the Achilles part matters because that is one of the few remaining injuries that make us nervous long term.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right.

[Guest Analyst 1]

So like ACL doesn't really make us nervous that much long term. And at one point that was it. There's a few injuries.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I was like, all right, let me be a little heavy.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You know, like we haven't really seen it in football. I know Jason Tatum's back in basketball,

[Guest Analyst 1]

but like Aaron Rodgers, that one great

[Dominique Foxworth]

guys like Kirk Cousins came back at one great guys. But I don't even think that it's the fact that it's Achilles that jumps out.

[Guest Analyst 1]

It's the fact that it's Daniel Jones and that he also broke his leg last year. And I don't remember the last time Daniel Jones had a full.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I guess he got a contract extension.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That was the last time he had

[Dominique Foxworth]

a full healthy season. Right. And so you combine the fact that

[Guest Analyst 1]

he's never had a great season, he's had maybe one fully healthy season. That is not the type of player that you want to, that you necessarily think that you have to extend. Um, but I guess that's why they put him on a two year deal. It's a result of, I think Ballard, the GM there feeling like his back's against the wall and, and Daniel Jones, if he don't, if he takes his transition tag and is like, I'm not signing it till week one, I'm not going to do anything like that puts you under the eight ball. And for what reason? Why not trade away whatever you got and give whatever contracts you need to give to give yourself the best chance to demonstrate to the newer decision makers at that organization that you are the right guy to stay here for a few more years.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Man, they love giving Daniel Jones. Just finding a reason to get that boy some Money. Same thing with Sam Darnold. Like, people just like, hey, man, we. If you just give us the opportunity, man, we'd love to give you a bunch of money right now. Like, I mean, they all worked out, I guess, in a way for him.

[Bomani Jones]

But with Danny Jones, we talked about this.

[Guest Analyst 2]

I'm like, he's Daniel Jones coming off in the kill.

[Bomani Jones]

Daniel Jones, who needs to run. Like, it's been established that he needs. He needs to have them DeAndre plays put in there for him in order to. For you to get it right. Like, if you just treat him how he look, it ain't going to work out so well. But you.

[Guest Analyst 2]

You.

[Bomani Jones]

You throw in a. You throw some apostrophe plays in there for him. You know what I'm saying? And then some.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Some.

[Bomani Jones]

A direction gets opened up and you could do. You could do a little bit more. Anthony Richardson asked for a trade, and I. If I'm the Colts.

[Guest Analyst 2]

No, buddy, you staying right here.

[Bomani Jones]

We ain't fully gave up on you yet. They may. They may need him next year. And if Daniel Jones can reach the point to be a $50 million quarterback, don't tell me it's over for Anthony Richardson.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And obviously I haven't done.

[Bomani Jones]

I refuse to give up, by the way.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I, I was going to breeze by that.

[FanDuel Advertiser]

Cause I.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He hasn't given you much to.

[Guest Analyst 1]

To.

[Bomani Jones]

To me neither has Daniel Jones for his first two years as an NFL starter.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That's fair. It could come around. It might. But what surprised me is that they weren't in on the Kyler Murray situation, especially given Shane Steichen's history. I'm surprised. I would be surprised, and I haven't talked to Shane Steichen, but I'd be surprised if Shane Steichen was, like, looking at available quarterbacks and then go upstairs to Chris Ballard's office and said, let me holl at this guy. Because we remember Shane Steichen got this job because of what he was able to do in Philadelphia with Jalen Hurts. I. I'd be shocked if he looked at Kyler Murray combined with Jonathan Taylor Warren, that tight end that they have is awesome. A very good offensive line. They extend Pierce. I'd be shocked if he wasn't like, hey, go give KYLER Murray that $1 million. But Kyler might have just been like, nah, these Vikings got what I need.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Or Shane Steichen called his old coworker Jonathan Gannon and was like, what's it like working with Kyler Murray? And he was like, how much time you got?

[Guest Analyst 1]

But I agree that's a possibility.

[Bomani Jones]

I'm just saying that's a hypothesis. I'm not saying that's a good enough reason.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, it certainly is a hypothesis.

[Guest Analyst 1]

But I'm putting myself in his shoes. And I've heard a lot of the same things that Jonathan Gannon might tell Shane Steichen. And my job on the line. I'm looking at Daniel Jones in a boot.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And I'm possibly considering Kyler Murray bootless. Kyler Murray humbled. Possibly. Maybe we got a new Kyler Murray that want to show something.

[Bomani Jones]

Whatever.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'mma bring Kyler Murray in for that $1 million and say, look here, Kyler, I don't know about none of that. I don't care. We gonna ball out this year. Cause you know what happens after this year? If you ball out, massive extension. If I ball out massive extension. You and me, Kyler, I don't give a damn about. This is the speech I'm giving him. I don't give a damn about none of that. You and me, we gonna get a two bedroom apartment. We gonna get up at five in the morning together. We gonna carpool our narrow asses to the facility together. We gonna lift, watch film and work together. It's gonna be one year of hell for you and me. I'm a hate it too. When Call of Duty come out, I'm with you. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna evac you. If you down, I'm gonna revive you in Call of Duty, we together. I'm not going to like it. You not going to like it. But you know what? Come January, February time, you and me, we gonna get paid. We. You can go somewhere else, I can go somewhere else. It don't matter. But we need each other right now. I would try to sell that to Kyler Murray if I could.

[Guest Analyst 2]

You like, y' all about to be the meme. He about to be the meme of old brother, man.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Coach.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Now bring me my money.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yep, exactly. Go do the Roy Williams strut right in, right into the ownership office.

[Bomani Jones]

We got to get this bread, dog. Hey, man, you can tell him. You've written about it. You've had to got. You had to. Let's get this money seasoned.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, yeah, yeah. I've told you and I've written about how it was probably the closest I've

[Guest Analyst 1]

ever felt to depression because it was not fun. I got traded right before my contract year and I was like, holy. It was a realization. And it's different for Kyler Murray, he was a number one overall pick. His money was different than mine was, but at that time it was like, holy shit.

[Dominique Foxworth]

All that I've dedicated my life to right now, it comes down to this season.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Either I play poorly and I got a couple hundred thousand dollars in the bank, which ain't bad. Couple hundred thousand dollars a bank in my mid twenties. No professional experience. Damn it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Or customer M's and life looking pretty bright. That's a lot of pressure. Then you get traded and you live it out of a hotel room.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And it was miserable.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I wasn't watching shit but film and only sunny in Philadelphia, trying to force myself to get a laugh. That was it. Off my broke ass laptop.

[Guest Analyst 2]

You, you helped teach them. That's very important. I always say focus is a skill. Right?

[Bomani Jones]

Focus is a resource. And that we always talk about the contract.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah. They'd be like, yeah, he doing that. Because the money on the line.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes and no. Right. We obviously, we as humans cannot always tap into the utmost focus for whatever reason.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

Sometimes it's different than others. Like sometimes in the gym you lift a little mo. You know, sometimes you throw it up 30, sometimes you throw it up 20s, right. It just, it just go that way sometime. But that got to. That got to make that focus.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That got to is a cousin of can't go back.

[Guest Analyst 1]

There's nothing stronger than can't go back.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm not saying that I had to can't go back coursing through my veins, but I had to got to course it through there. And that's pretty damn strong.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And yeah, I read a book a while ago called Scarcity and it talked a lot about the benefits and the drawbacks of like feeling that pressure and that scarcity.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But we're people, man.

[Guest Analyst 1]

You can't simulate. It's something we talk about all the time is like you can't simulate real desperation. Like you can't fake that. We read articles. Maybe they're true, maybe they're not. Like moms getting superpowers when their kids in danger and lifting up cars and shit like that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't know.

[Guest Analyst 1]

But I know that shit feel different sometimes. And I believe it retail.

[Guest Analyst 2]

What I believed in that mom superpower type stuff. It was the NFC championship game. I've talked about this on the show before. If you've never seen it, look it up my head. I maybe made it a little bit more hyperbole in watching it, but when you watch it, you'll still see what I'm talking about. So in the year of our Lord 2009, Adrian Peterson had a real problem with fumbling, right? They just kept taking the ball out

[Bomani Jones]

of his hands, which seems impossible for a man who's greatest known feat is his handshake, right?

[Guest Analyst 2]

But for whatever reason, people kept making him fumble. And in that NFC Championship game, I

[Bomani Jones]

want to say he had multiple fumbles. But the last fumble he had, he recovered it himself. And it looked like the equivalent of what if somebody jumped from the bottom of the pool and landed on their feet with just one jump, not even pulling themselves off the wall. Like Adrian Peterson understood, now was not the time to lose a fumble. It is one of the most incredible things I have ever seen in my life. And it would not have been the case in week two. It would not have been the case in week seven. It happened right then and there.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That was. I've told this a bunch of times, but you know, this, that. That was one of the differences that I thought that I saw in Ray Lewis. In any other play, like you, you can point to all the special things about him, but one of the differences that I saw in him was somehow the level, like my most important.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Can't go back.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Everything's on the line. High pressure. That level of focus and intensity was that fool's baseline.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like. Like, I don't know if he got higher than that for other, like, high intensity games.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I. I didn't. I couldn't really tell because it felt intense. Like when we were in the playoffs together. It feels intense. I wasn't on the super bowl team,

[Dominique Foxworth]

either of his super bowl team, so

[Guest Analyst 1]

maybe it was higher than 2, but I know that I looked at him

[Dominique Foxworth]

before every random game and was like, at this point in your career, how you care this much right now? You can't fake it, man. You can't fake it. It's something about. And that might be some other players might be like that.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And maybe he takes it to an even higher level where he knocking out Eddie George in the playoffs. Like, it's possible, but it's a special amount of focus.

[Guest Analyst 2]

That's Michael Jordan.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah, same thing.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And to your point, that focuses the resource.

[Guest Analyst 1]

You're right. Like some people, it's the same way that, like, speed is a resource. Of course you're gonna run faster sometimes, slower sometimes. And some people start at a higher point. Like some people have some issues with attention. That man can focus.

[Bomani Jones]

That's what I was saying. We clearly recognize that, like, there's only a certain endowment of this because people spend all kind of money on dope.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Oh, yeah. For sure.

[Bomani Jones]

So that they can get it back. You know what I'm saying? This whole industry based around. I can help you focus.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I get it.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I was listening to some podcast this morning about politics and was talking about how power is a combination of resource and resources, and will is like the. The calculation that makes power. And I was thinking about that in a sports context or an athlete's context. And the will is kind of the focus part, to some degree is like. And that's the can't go back. So, like, yeah, there are some things that are different that you can't create. And, like, yeah, the resources are whatever you have physically. Yeah. But that doesn't. Like, we all know great athletes that didn't figure it out, didn't make it anywhere that will something strong, man.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah, man. By the way, since you mentioned the Ravens, man, what the hell are they up there doing, dawg? I sent a text to Mean, and I asked the question.

[Bomani Jones]

We used to have a word for

[Guest Analyst 2]

what the Ravens did, but we never replaced it with something more politically correct. So, like, what kind of giving did they engage in? And if one word.

[Bomani Jones]

If one word to refer to it is Caucasian giving, would that be offensive

[Dominique Foxworth]

at this time? I wouldn't mess around with it.

[Bomani Jones]

Nah, I wouldn't do that either.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Like, I don't recommend anybody. I don't think nobody should make that

[Bomani Jones]

point, but, you know, European strings attached, maybe. I don't know.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I like that.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah, I like that.

[Bomani Jones]

You know, it's like the Ravens did. The Ravens is like. Like when you accidentally send a text and it's hanging in the air and you really don't want it to go through, but you got to turn the whole computer off.

[Guest Analyst 2]

All right?

[Bomani Jones]

You got to turn the whole phone off. That's what they did. They didn't turn the whole phone off. And. And then. And then when. When it came down to it, somebody was like, oh, they ain't tell you. Nobody you ain't heard, huh?

[Guest Analyst 1]

Oh, they ain't tell you.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It's hilarious.

[Bomani Jones]

You know, that's what everybody else a. When everybody ain't tell you. Looking like a triangle. Looking like. Looking like recycle, reduce, reuse. Everybody just pointing around, pointing around at each other.

[Guest Analyst 1]

It's bad, man. As the time has gone on, it feels like the NFL world is. Is all looking at the Ravens funny, right? Yeah. And I still stand by the fact that I think that the outcome that they would have preferred is a fully healthy Max Crosby. I think he's that good. I think they would have Preferred to have to have gotten him for the picks that they sent away at whatever level they expected. But I also think it's really, it's very reasonable to think that the circumstances changed. So we say pass fail for the physical and this is how I explained it on my show is like, we say pass fail. Like there is like there's some absolute to it. Like it's a light switch. Like it's something that all people would say, I understand. Like, no, the pass fail line for a physical moves based on your circumstances. So like if I am getting you for league minimum, what I would require

[Dominique Foxworth]

for you to consider you pass is lower.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right?

[Guest Analyst 1]

If I am looking to draft you number one overall and what I would

[Dominique Foxworth]

require would be higher. If I am giving two first round picks to get you, it's going to be higher. If a suitable replacement we discover is a little less expensive than we. Than we thought. What I would require for your knee to look like goes up a little

[Guest Analyst 1]

higher and, and that like it's one

[Dominique Foxworth]

of those conspiracy theories that is.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Is so like logical that it feels less conspiratorial is like, oh, Trey took

[Dominique Foxworth]

a minute for Trey yesterday.

[Guest Analyst 2]

It's the fact that they did not try to change the terms of the deal. That's what we like, if they had

[Bomani Jones]

been like, I had to take this down to a one and a three, right?

[Guest Analyst 2]

But they didn't do that. They was like, you know what? 9, 9, 9, 9, 9. We good? We good. No, no, no, no, it's okay. I just. Here's my receipt.

[Bomani Jones]

Can you put it back on my card?

[Guest Analyst 2]

No, no, no. I don't want no store credit. I want no store credit. I want, I want that back on my card.

[Guest Analyst 1]

They ask you what was the problem with it.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You're like, I don't know. The knee, isn't it?

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, you know what it is? That's actually, now we got even better. They tried to take back an open box. Yeah, like, you know, with the open box, anything is possible, right? They took the open box. They were like, y' all need a refund on this open box. They're like, yo, but it's an open box. You can't do that. Yeah, that's fine. But we need a refund.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right?

[Bomani Jones]

But like we looked inside and it's broke. And it's like. But you knew it was an open box.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But this is this.

[Guest Analyst 1]

As we search around for the perfect analogy

[Dominique Foxworth]

where the Raiders get into to a tough situation is they gave them max on consignment. They get paid because Then that's the thing. The store, once they got your money, you come back and they're like, it's open box. Oh, I'm not going to give you the money. You going have to rip it. Rip it out the register. The Ravens never paid. They called the credit card company and said, cancel that. Cancel that before they can process it. Cancel it.

[Bomani Jones]

The Ravens just over there, like now, like, we gonna get him out of here, but he don't want to be here no more. Like, at least they don't have to put him back in uniform. Right? Like, at least they didn't do this at the trade deadline.

[Guest Analyst 1]

The worst part, I think, for the Raiders is that they are in a much worse position than they were before. Like, had they never even gotten into this agreement with the Ravens, Max Crosby's value would be higher and they could get one of those. So Max Crosby's value is depressed now. So they got the deal got reneged and they got back a less valuable piece. And the Ravens went on to get back their picks that are still just as valuable as they were before and a replacement for the position that they. That they needed.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Well, let me ask you this.

[Bomani Jones]

What do you think of all these people that are now. Like, we hear people talk about the Ravens like it's a clown show. And I had spent the last two and a half decades people talking about it's the best run organization in the league.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That was what bought them some goodwill with me at least was like, that sounds absurd. The Ravens don't do that. The Ravens, though. That ain't. That ain't how the Ravens operate, Ozzy. Ah, nah, they ain't gonna. That ain't what they would do. But it feels like it doesn't take much. I tell. Yeah, I definitely can't tell this story on here, but one of my college coaches told a story once that stuck with me. It was called Pierre. He called it Pierre the bridge builder. And.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah, I know, I know very.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I know, I know, I know.

[Bomani Jones]

Similar analogs. Right, Right.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I don't think I've told you before, but yeah, yeah.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Does it.

[Bomani Jones]

Does it involve a goat at some point?

[Guest Analyst 1]

It doesn't, but yeah. The same sort of thing.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. The version involves a goat.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah. This was in the early 2000s, and

[Dominique Foxworth]

we were hyper, masculine football players.

[Guest Analyst 1]

So he went with something that, that

[Dominique Foxworth]

those type of people would find incredibly

[Guest Analyst 1]

offensive at that time.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I don't think it will work. The Goat might be more offensive now, but back then he wanted you to know that would. The thing that you would Most hate to be considered in 2001.

[Guest Analyst 1]

You it cause you did it once.

[Bomani Jones]

You get caught one time.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

That's what you will be forever.

[Dominique Foxworth]

That's the essence of the story is

[Guest Analyst 1]

Pierre the bridge builder was the greatest bridge builder. He built lots of bridges and everyone revered him as being a great bridge builder. Then somebody caught him doing something once, one time and from then on nobody called him Pierre the bridge builder.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It remind me of my homeboy elementary

[Guest Analyst 1]

school named PP Greg and peed on himself just a couple times in elementary school.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He did a bunch of other things.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Still call that man PP to this day.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah, there was some dude that was allegedly in high school caught in the bathroom playing a solo. Yeah, I don't even know if it actually happened.

[Bomani Jones]

But he was J O B until the end. It had wore off by the time reunion came around. They called that man J O B. I never even.

[Guest Analyst 2]

I don't even know what J O B stood for.

[Bomani Jones]

His name was J O B forever.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean that's the best possible outcome

[Guest Analyst 1]

because at some point it becomes your nickname and nobody knows where it comes from. And just hope that they don't ask the origins. Cause like PP Greg eventually just became P. Like he went to PP Greg. We called PP Greg. They know it's just Pee pee. Then eventually it was just P. No peas in his name anywhere to be found sooner or later.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Where P at?

[Guest Analyst 1]

Where P? It's like the man, like swaggy pee.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, the man pee peed on himself a few times in the third grade.

[Guest Analyst 1]

PP Greg forever.

[Bomani Jones]

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[Bomani Jones]

All right, we are back with Dominique Foxworthy. Did you ever think that you would see a time where Geno Smith and the New York jets would be reunited?

[Guest Analyst 1]

If I mean it had to be a last resort, man. Like if I was Geno, I would do all things possible to avoid giving people the opportunity to revisit that story, man.

[Bomani Jones]

My darts, Any of it. And okay. I think it's very difficult for me to judge Geno on what happened last

[Guest Analyst 2]

year with the Raiders because it was such a disaster what was going on with that team.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

However, Aaron Glenn didn't appear to do

[Guest Analyst 2]

a much better job last year than Pink Carroll did. Okay.

[Bomani Jones]

He also has done a terrible job of dealing with the media. Like, I don't think Aaron Glenn is being extended, but so much courtesy this year and yo black head coach bringing in the black quarterback that the fans hated. Whether they were being fair or not is not the point. This seems like a situation that is not. It doesn't seem conducive to success for anybody involved. But I'm also not sure that there was going to be a better quarterback that the jets could get.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That's the thing is like I'm not sure how I would classify jets fans like on the spectrum of like informed fans or not or educated fans and not like like traditional education. Just like how much they know about the football world. And because I think if they are, they are welcoming Geno Smith. I think it seems obviously that you do not have a franchise that or a situation right now that is advantageous to a starting level quarterback. And Geno Smith seems to be that. So I maybe they'll be upset or not or not welcome him or have a short kind of fuse with him because of their history with him. But I don't know who they think was they were gonna get that's better than that. Like given the situation right now.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. No, it's just if, if he had not played for them before, I don't think I would view this in the same manner. Now, have you seen the run through of all the quarterbacks since Gino's first start with the Jets? All the quarterbacks that they started before

[Guest Analyst 1]

they bring this back around it, man.

[Bomani Jones]

Okay, I'm gonna run through the names and I'm not going to really stop. I'm just going to run through them and I'm going to be curious if you have the same observation at the

[Guest Analyst 2]

end that I did.

[Bomani Jones]

And keeping in mind, we're talking about the versions of these players as they were with the jets.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Okay.

[Bomani Jones]

Matt Sims, Michael Vick, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, Josh McCown, Sam Darnold, Trevor Simeon, Luke Falk, Joe Flacco, Zach Wilson, Mike White, Josh Johnson, Chris Streveler, I've never heard of him. Aaron Rodgers, Tim Boyle, to Rod Taylor, Justin Fields and Brady Cook. You know what I feel like they all have in common? I'm not sure any of them while with the jets except for 2015, how many of them were actually better? Like if at the same time they were there the jets had had Gino Smith, they probably would have been better off. Like you look at the run of quarterbacks they had post Gino and it's like, you know the same way they keep talking about Sam Darnold, if they

[Guest Analyst 1]

had just waited and given him a

[Bomani Jones]

little bit more time, but apparently they should have had Gino Smith as the quarterback for 13 years.

[Guest Analyst 1]

That's. I mean that's my point is I think they know that. That's what I'm saying is like I don't know how smart they are as football fans, but if there's someone in this marriage or this connection because it's multiple parties that should feel like appreciative

[Dominique Foxworth]

is the jets fans, the jets organization.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Like he's the one that comes in, I think. And even coming off as bad a season he's had last year, I think most people attribute that to what was happening around him. He's the one who I think might have had more options. Like I. Yeah, I actually think that the Falcons, given that they went with Tua, probably should have been. I guess the left handed thing mattered more than I thought it should. They probably should have been thinking about Gino.

[Guest Analyst 2]

They also got two of a minimum wage, right?

[Guest Analyst 1]

Fair.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Gino ain't. Gino ain't showing up in no minimum wage.

[Bomani Jones]

I honestly, I think the Raiders should have kept him. Yeah, like there's no reason for Gino not to be your starter next year.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Like, I don't.

[Bomani Jones]

There is no. You're not trotting John Elway out there. You're not trotting Andrew Luck out there.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, you're not, you're not trotting out

[Guest Analyst 2]

a quarterback that I feel like is like, oh, we got to hurry out and get him on the field.

[Bomani Jones]

For the fans, I feel like they're drafting a quarterback that you could definitely be like, hey, post up for a

[Guest Analyst 2]

little bit, big dog. We'll get, we'll.

[Bomani Jones]

We'll get back to you.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah, I think Geno's definitely. What? Well, I guess you have to. He might also just be so pissed off and annoyed that, that he's just scorned. And maybe they're not looking to deal with that. But if he. The idea that he was happy and comfortable with going to the jets suggests that he was not like thinking, oh man, this my chance to make it big. I can't stay around here and help transition this quarterback.

[FanDuel Advertiser]

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[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah, no, this is, this.

[Bomani Jones]

I talked about this a little bit with Parkins, but it's very interesting. This is a year where there feels like there's been more mobility than ever for just kind of regular dudes.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, I feel like, like Kyler Murray, even Geno Smith. I watch Alex Smith get traded repeatedly.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

And the point I'm making is, and I guess Geno Smith was traded those

[Guest Analyst 2]

for like a six round pick or something like that.

[Bomani Jones]

But I feel like these are quarterbacks that are a little bit too good for somebody to just be able to get like this.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Is that because just the quality of quarterback has gone up or do you think that this is a. This is like an aberration. Right. Like they're these, these type of guys like in the rankings of quarterback always were available to move around, but this batch of quarterbacks was also never this talented.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, it's a good question because it was a couple years ago. It felt like everything was wrong in quarterback world, you know what I mean? Like, I can never keep up on whether or not we had a golden era, quarterbacks or hard times as me.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I mean, it's only so. It's so few places, only 32 teams. If you get a batch of five to six young guys that come in and you maintain like four or five old guys, then the league is flush.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. Well, look, Trevor Lawrence finally got his shit together. Right. You know what I'm saying? Baker Mayfield ain't above no more. Sam Darnold. That happened. You know what I'm saying it just takes a. It just takes a couple of terms. Don't let J.J. mcCarthy get his shit, right.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And I mean the J.J. mcCarthy draft, not including him, three really good guys. And getting a new coach in Chicago has helped with Caleb, like.

[Guest Analyst 2]

That's right.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah. We got three really good young guys. And Stroud, who didn't is a little bit on thin ice, but like he's a legitimate starting quarterback. It's just like we had. We had.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And it's also quarterbacks playing longer I

[Guest Analyst 1]

think too is we had a long stretch of guys that. I don't know.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I guess it's a surprise to me

[Guest Analyst 1]

how fast it feels like we switched over to like the Mahomes, Allen Lamar guys. Like they're getting real close to old guy. It happened fast. They are.

[Bomani Jones]

And it's going to be different because we went through this run where we had super old guys. Right. We had Brady Breeze Manning play forever. That's not really how this works.

[Guest Analyst 1]

It's not how it used to work. I mean, I guess the question is, is that how it works going forward? And, and Brady Breeze Manning are different types of quarterbacks. So you could make the argument either way that like science is better, take care of your body's better so they'll play longer. But you could also say these quarterbacks play differently than those quarterbacks. So maybe they won't be effective as long as those guys were.

[Guest Analyst 2]

I don't know. I feel like the rest of these cats seem to be still like falling apart. You know what I'm saying? Like they are. I want to run this by the people right fast. It appears per ESPN has his report and per a memo that the owner Steve, the Steve Tish and I think he got a couple siblings. They are, they. They own a big piece of the Giants. So like we, we referred to Steve Tish as co owner of the Giants for a very long time.

[Bomani Jones]

Anyway, if you hit control F on Tish, he come up in them files, right?

[Guest Analyst 2]

And he came up because the girls was complaining. They thought that this was just about a little bit of business and maybe they go, you know, do, do the

[Bomani Jones]

thing and then maybe he'll put them in a movie.

[Guest Analyst 2]

But it turned out that he was

[Bomani Jones]

Wooka Penub and all the wall paces and he kept trying to hang out

[Guest Analyst 2]

with them and they didn't like that.

[Bomani Jones]

Anyway, it appears that the Tishes want to put the. Their stakes of the team into the trust of their children. Epstein strikes again.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah, everywhere, man, everywhere. Like there's nothing Obviously that it feels like there's something around the league that's going to happen there. Like they not doing that for fun. Like I imagine that Steve Tisch would have rode this out. There's like my assumption is there's a penalty coming, there's a decision being made. That's why these steps are being taken.

[Guest Analyst 2]

So. Yeah, but it's just like up it, it's crept up. It's here, it's here.

[Guest Analyst 1]

You got caught up.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Got caught up. You got caught up.

[Bomani Jones]

Last thing.

[Guest Analyst 2]

What you think about the NFL exploring playing the game on Thanksgiving Eve?

[Guest Analyst 1]

I, I, I believe that over saturation is a thing. Ask the NBA. I also recognize that if I had something that people was willing to pay a billion dollars for, I figured out how to make new ones all the time. If I had a widget that people

[Dominique Foxworth]

was like, I give you a billion dollars for, I would chop that thing up, step on it so many times, cut that thing, twist it and reverse it and sell it to them again. Like, I can't blame him for doing it.

[Guest Analyst 1]

But as someone who's not gonna like make any more money off of this, like, I recognize that. God, like there was part of the reason why I think the NFL has taken over this country as far as a media product is concerned. Part of the reason is because of the value and the exclusivity and the eventization of every Sunday, every Monday, every Thursday. I know we got a long way to go, but we adding 16 to 17. They talking about adding 18 now. We got Christmas, we got all the holidays. They got some on Netflix, they got it on Hulu and Peacock. And now they want to take Thanksgiving Eve, which ain't even a thing.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I ain't never heard nobody say Thanksgiving

[Guest Analyst 1]

Eve before in my life. But yeah, it's hard to argue with that, with the finances of it. This is about like the, the transition that happens for like many great art forms from like art to capitalism. Not that this has hasn't been deeply enmeshed in the capitalism in a long time, but it does feel like the more you just like sell, sell, sell, the like, cheaper it all becomes.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah, my issue is it's a Wednesday night game. Like you meant.

[Bomani Jones]

You mentioned the NBA. I think a mistake, at least to

[Guest Analyst 2]

me it seems like a mistake the NFL is making. They don't feel like it matters.

[Bomani Jones]

But the nf, the difference between the NFL and the NBA is that the

[Guest Analyst 2]

NBA is a players league and the NFL is not. The NFL is a franchise league. It is a brand league.

[Bomani Jones]

But the players at some point do matter. And what we've seen with the NBA as a result of the style of changes, the changes of style of play, is that the players physically cannot withstand it.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Right?

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

Like, we are seeing their bodies break down and therefore we see less of them and we complain about it when they try to do the things to

[Guest Analyst 2]

protect or anything else.

[Bomani Jones]

NFL ain't a game that allow for no low management.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Right. The, the, the.

[Bomani Jones]

The stakes are too high, the margins are too thin. You cannot do that. But all these things they're doing with the games are just making it more and more likely that people get hurt. And we've had those stretches during this season when you get down and it's the bye weeks and it's not that many teams playing, and then you start looking around and these cats just aren't out there. Like, there are stretches of the NFL schedule, like really. And it's really around this time of Thanksgiving when you start putting these games and all these different days and what they start diluting and where. I think they're making a strategic mistake when they do this. What they are diluting is the day. Sunday.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Like. Like what. What makes y' all shit so much different than everything else is y' all got this whole day that's loaded with stuff. And instead you take a. Put a little bit here, you put a little bit there. It's like Major League Baseball. And I think NFL is going to do this too, where opening day is not opening day because you started your season in Japan two weeks early. Right. And you start diluting the. Like, opening day of baseball used to be a thing that I cannot explain to people what it is now because they diluted it so far. So if I'm the NFL, I get that you can get a little more bread by doing this, but I would be trying to figure out how do we protect the sanctity of Sunday? And to me, that's not what they doing here unless they gonna put bums in that game.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Yeah, I mean, I think that I agree with you. And the quarterbacks being healthy matters more than anyone else. Like, it's rough when they do those promos and it's TJ Watt and Miles Garrett showing up on a Thursday night game like it's a much harder game to sell. The problem is they still get numbers that dwarf any other thing that is on tv. So, like, there's nothing about. They have so much breathing room considering that the NBA numbers get them an absurd number from TV networks. They have so much breathing room that they're not feeling the pain of this. And I think that the argument that I would make if I were them for why this doesn't change Sunday is there's something different about the one off games. The one off games don't change the fact that Sunday is a deluge. And that's the fun part, right. That's the event part of it is that like, yeah, you get one game on Thursday, you get one on Monday, we might give you one on Christmas, we might give you one on, on, on Thanksgiving Eve. But you know, when you're going to get. Were you going to drown in football every Sunday?

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, I guess that's it, man. But this is, it's the Mark Cuban, you know.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Hogs get slaughtered.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Yep.

[Bomani Jones]

But that was 10 years ago. It really looks. It looked kind of shaky 10 years ago.

[Guest Analyst 1]

It did.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Also, I mean, I honestly, like, I'm not sure.

[Guest Analyst 1]

I think the big risk for the NFL, as crazy as this sounds, is not all these little things that we're thinking about. The big risk for the NFL is that they become so expensive that they reduce the amount of buyers that are in the market and they lose their leverage. Because what they are selling only, only three companies can afford. Which I guess maybe that's why they chop it up.

[Bomani Jones]

That is something I had not considered until you just said it. That I think is very important, which is with all this media consolidation, man, it's only about to be three people out here.

[Guest Analyst 1]

And so no matter how like imagine a concept that. So here's a good idea. Let's say, let's use the analogy of the NFL selling diamonds. Right. That's awesome. When. If you live in a neighborhood where everybody got money and want to buy diamonds. If the NFL is trying to sell diamonds but they own a corner,

[ESPN Announcer]

it

[Guest Analyst 1]

don't matter how beautiful your diamonds are if, if your customers don't got the bread. And so they gonna get to a point where, and I'm sure they're aware of this. They. I don't know why you're so sure of that. Yeah, I'm not sure. And with the media continuing like currently, like media's being allowed to consolidate more and more is like that is the real risk that the NFL runs from like a business like strategy standpoint is they have to find a way to make sure that there are enough bidders in the market that aren't colluding in any way that can keep buying this shit as it keeps going up. Because I don't think the value of the property is going to Go down before we end up with two media companies that look at the NFL like, all right, come over here for 30 bucks. Go over there for 31 bucks. That's all you got, dog.

[Guest Analyst 2]

What a tie, man. What a time. Also, in case you guys didn't know, it's going to surprise you, but Iran will not be participating in the World Cup. Just, just letting you, in case you guys, you thought they might show up as the plucky underdog.

[Guest Analyst 1]

The World cup is in North America this year.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Which I think if you read the comments, hard to push back on what they said.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, yeah.

[Guest Analyst 2]

Let me tell you this. Can you imagine what would happen if, like, somehow Iran came over here, made it to, like, the quarterfinals? Like, can you imagine if it was

[Bomani Jones]

like Iran in the United States playing in, in la? Hold up.

[Dominique Foxworth]

How we get to the quarters?

[Guest Analyst 1]

If we was in the same pool or I guess we are. It's already the, the, the groups have already been decided. But yeah, if we ended up in the quarters, like, that would be dramatic.

[Bomani Jones]

That is Dominique Foxworth. Check him out on Dominique Foxburg Show. Available for all five podcasts. Give it away for free, my brother. I appreciate you.

[Guest Analyst 1]

Thank you, my friend.

[Guest Analyst 2]

All right, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so

[Bomani Jones]

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[Guest Analyst 2]

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[Bomani Jones]

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[Guest Analyst 2]

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[Bomani Jones]

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