Harden & Cavs QUIT vs, Knicks, The OKC "Blue Devils" & Jackson Dart’s Trump Problem | 05.26

Summary

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The Right Time with Bomani Jones

Episode: Harden & Cavs QUIT vs. Knicks, The OKC “Blue Devils” & Jackson Dart’s Trump Problem
Date: May 26, 2026
Host: Bomani Jones with Ryan Glass

Episode Overview

This episode explores the NBA Playoffs with a focus on the dominant New York Knicks, critiques the Cleveland Cavaliers and the “quitting” narrative, digs into James Harden’s playoff pressers, and labels the Oklahoma City Thunder as the modern "Blue Devils" of the NBA. Bomani also unpacks the political controversy around Giants quarterback Jackson Dart introducing Donald Trump, and discusses the Congressional Black Caucus’s involvement in the SCORE Act regarding college athletes. As always, the episode features listener voicemails with commentary on referees and employment in the cannabis industry.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Knicks’ Playoff Dominance, the Cleveland Cavaliers, and "Quitting"

[01:09 - 10:00]

• Bomani marvels at the Knicks’ historic playoff run: "They haven’t lost a game in a month. And the only close game they had was kind of close, except they walked Cleveland down so bad..." ([02:22])
• He draws a parallel to the 2012 Spurs and questions how quickly fair-weather fans jump ship but concludes, "Well, clearly that shit’s not going to happen because they in the Finals now." ([03:01])
• The infamous LeBron/J.R. Smith incident is recalled with humor: "He hit the hands out, he was so mad it broke his braid." ([03:32])
• Bomani distinguishes between losing and quitting; he believes Cleveland truly quit only in Game 4: "They quit in game four. Like that halftime show on Inside the NBA… ‘why would we talk about this game?’" ([04:23])
• Ridicules coach Kenny Atkinson’s postgame spin on “expected score”: "The only line that came out…‘analytically, we’ve won two out of three.’ You fucking loser. Nobody wants to hear that right now." ([06:11])
• James Harden’s press conferences scrutinized: "'I still think we’re the better team.' No, you’re not… you lost by 1500 points, go add it up. Right? You may go look at the newspaper…They’re wrong. I watched the shit." ([08:01])

2. Knicks Team Construction and Playoff Depth

[10:00 - 15:50]

• Bomani contrasts today’s good teams and those of the past: "Really good to great NBA teams now feel more like college teams… it’s about a certain level of depth, a certain level of cohesion." ([10:57])
• The Knicks called "locked in," likened to the ‘01 Lakers’ laser focus: "The Knicks of all teams are playing with that kind of focus… it's just, 'yo, this isn’t fluky.'" ([12:36])
• A playful tangent on jersey numbers, criticizing Landry Shamet for wearing 44: "You gotta earn your way into 44. Landry Sham(et) is supposed to be taking what they got… should be wearing the numbers Celtics and Yankees be wearing where they ain’t got that many numbers left." ([13:43])
• New York’s celebratory atmosphere likened to historical moments, referencing "Malcolm X" and movie scenes for the police presence around Radio City Music Hall. ([15:52])

3. NBA Ticket Prices, Knicks Fan Takeover, and Dan Gilbert

[16:38 - 19:30]

• Knicks fans traveling and outspending locals; tickets are expensive even factoring in flights.
• Bomani laughs about ticket prices: "I called my brother…what’s the most that you'll be willing to pay? He said, $500. And there’s no reason for us to talk about that shit again." ([17:55])
• Cavs’ unsuccessful attempts to keep Knicks fans out; Dan Gilbert’s ban of locals selling courtside seats to Knicks followers discussed. Bomani jokes, "There were clearly 10 courtside seats that they might as well have made available to Knicks fans. It was the ones that the Cavs were sitting in." ([19:25])

4. Thunder-Spurs: "OKC Blue Devils" and the Chet vs. Victor Dynamic

[21:12 - 27:22]

• OKC’s defensive tactics scrutinized: "They be doing all that fouling, they be doing all that flopping… but they are really good. And that’s why we got to start calling them what they are–the Oklahoma City Blue Devils." ([23:15])
• The Chet Holmgren vs. Victor Wembanyama rivalry likened to Serena and Sharapova, with Victor dominating. Chet "has been rendered useless…you see it on his face. I’m a Chet guy." ([21:15])
• Suggests OKC could lean even more into a hateable Duke-like persona: "If you gonna be Devils, turn it all the way up. Go out there, get you Grayson Allen…get Christian Laettner to do it, if you’re gonna be it. Be it." ([27:21])
• On the need for villainous charisma: "If you’re going to play basketball like that, you need to be polarizing...Go make a trade for Grayson Allen." ([25:10])

5. Hairline Theory: "Signs of Greatness"

[27:39 - 32:45]

• Bomani’s theory: the best NBA players’ receding hairlines are proof of “greatness” ("Now back in the day, like Russell and Chamberlain… But in modern times, if you truly gonna be a great, you gotta have some of these [corners receding]." [29:14])
• Playful shade thrown at commentators and professional athletes with "super persistent hairlines," singling out PK Subban.

6. Jackson Dart, The Giants & Trump Rally Fallout

[34:26 - 39:59]

• QB Jackson Dart introduced Donald Trump at a rally; Bomani stresses sports and politics are intertwined: "This idea that we don’t care about the politics of athletes. Yes, we do…That’s the whole reason anybody cared." ([35:24])
• Emphasizes Trump is not "just another politician," invoking past player controversies. "Standing with Trump… it's not simply 'I disagree with your politics.'" ([39:04])
• On risk aversion: "After Jackson Dart's first year in the league, what do you think was the biggest thing he needed to work on? His decision making. Risk aversion…Still needs to work on his risk aversion." —Ryan Glass ([39:29])

7. Congressional Black Caucus, SCORE Act & College Athlete Rights

[40:45 - 50:14]

• Bomani dissects the Congressional Black Caucus's (CBC) stance on the SCORE Act, criticizing the CBC for "outsourcing" protest to students: "I do not approve of asking these young people to make a sacrifice in the name of what you want when I’m not sure that you’re going to be out here making a similar sacrifice yourself." ([41:38])
• Recaps lobbying efforts by the NCAA and bipartisan opposition to the SCORE Act, which he describes as anti-player: "The SCORE act puts all a disproportionate amount of power to the NCAA…prevents players from unionizing and collectively bargaining. That is what the SCORE act does." ([44:14])
• Bomani calls out the CBC for being transactional and using players as bargaining chips, rather than long-term organizers: "As of right now, it feels like all these people are trying to do is run a transactional game and the currency that you're using for the transaction is these young people. And they are too young to be bargaining chips." ([49:38])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On LeBron/J.R. Smith Game 1 Gaffe:

  "He hit the hands out, he was so mad it broke his braid." — Bomani Jones ([03:32])

• On Press Conference Spin:

  "The only line that came out of that was, analytically, we’ve won two out of three. You fucking loser. Nobody wants to hear that right now." — Bomani Jones ([06:11])

• On Harden Post-Game:

  "James Harden, who has no leeway—zero leeway—when it comes to looking like a loser…'I still think we’re the better team.' No, you’re not. But just lost three games in a row by, no exaggeration, 1,500 points. Go add it up. Right? …We all synced it." — Bomani Jones ([08:01])

• On Knicks’ Cohesion:

  "The Knicks are like, they got a bunch of, like, highish spades, right? There’s no big joker on the team. Karl Anthony Towns is like a deuce. When the deuce is wild, it feels like a joker." — Bomani Jones ([12:16])

• On Jersey Numbers:

  "Landry Shamet, who is not a good enough player to deserve to wear number 44… There’s a list of numbers… okay, number one. You either gotta be really good or really small. That seem fair, right?" — Bomani Jones ([13:25])

• On the “Blue Devils” Label:

  "We gotta start calling them what they are. The Oklahoma City Blue Devils. That’s what they are, man…they be out there playing devilish basketball all on the premise that you can’t call everything." — Bomani Jones ([23:15])

• On OKC’s Need for a Villain:

  "If you gonna be Devils, turn it all the way up. Go out there, get you Grayson Allen…Like, if you’re gonna do it, do it." — Bomani Jones ([27:21])

• On Jackson Dart’s Trump Intro:

  "Take that monkey shit off. You embarrassing us… Not only does he pull up, like, introducing Trump. Can we be honest about this? He sounded stupid… I am pleasured to be here." — Bomani Jones ([35:13])

• On Congressional Black Caucus & SCORE Act:

  "If they were willing to vote for this…that works in opposition of the players in order to get what they want, that explicitly means that they are willing to sacrifice the interests of these young men and women for their own goals." — Bomani Jones ([46:59])

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Timestamps for Major Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------------|------------------| | Knicks Playoff Dominance & Cavs/Celebrity Fans | 01:09 – 19:30 | | Thunder-Spurs, “Blue Devils” label, Chet & Victor | 21:12 – 27:22 | | Hairline Theory/“Signs of Greatness” | 27:39 – 32:45 | | Jackson Dart’s Trump Problem | 34:26 – 39:59 | | Congressional Black Caucus, SCORE Act, Organizing | 40:45 – 50:14 | | Listener Voicemails: Ex-Players as Refs, etc. | 50:14 – End |

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Listener Voicemails

On Ex-Players as Referees
[50:19]

• Will from OKC suggests all refs be ex-players.
• Bomani and Ryan joke about KG or Rajon Rondo as refs ("It would turn into wrestling very quickly." — Ryan Glass [51:18]), then riff on Luca Doncic being forced to be a ref for a game.

On the Money in College Sports
[52:27]

• Carter from Brooklyn praises the “where the money is from” episode, wants Bomani and Spencer Hall to write a book.

On Dispensary Delivery Bingo
[53:25]

• Eric from LA shares a funny story about guessing customers’ race based on cannabis delivery names, while hating his new job and navigating life after layoffs.

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The episode features Bomani’s trademark wit, deep analysis of basketball culture and sports politics, and his unique ability to balance humor with sharp social critique.

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Transcript

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[Bomani Jones]

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time, a Wave Original presented by FanDuel predicts. My name is Bonnie Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. In a minute we gonna talk about why the Thunder is really just some devils. You know what I'm saying? We gonna talk about Jackson Dart. It's a lot of blue in the show that that's coming up here. Even a Congressional Black Caucus. They a different kind of blue than Jackson Dart, very obviously. But anyway, how about those New York Knicks? Let me tell you something. And we talked about this a couple of days ago on the show where I'd raised the question how long would it take before people jumped off the Knicks, Right? And I mean, and when I say people, I really, I don't know if I meant Knicks fans. I'll be honest, I didn't know what the hell I meant. I mean, I knew what I meant. I didn't. Okay, this is what I'm saying. All right, hear me out. Hear me out and I think you'll get where I was coming from, which is they had just been so dominant and just running through people that if they lost a game by call it seven points, but people be like, oh, okay, well now that was fun. That was over. The example I've made all the time. I watched the San Antonio spurs in 2012 win 20 games in a row and then they lost four in a row and it was over, right? So my Question simply was, at what point when would it be that people would just be like, okay, that was cool. Well, clearly that shit's not going to happen because they in the Finals now. The NBA Finals, the ones at the end of the year. Yeah, they in that. And, and, and, and they didn't just, like, tiptoe into it. They haven't lost a game in a month. And the only close game they had was kind of close, except they walked Cleveland down so bad that. Okay, trying to think when J.R. smith went the wrong way with the ball. Cause remember, the Cavs were about to be up, or had a great chance to be up 10 on the Warriors. Then Junior got the rebound and went the wrong way for what remains maybe the funniest thing I've ever seen in my life. I feel so bad for LeBron, but not bad enough not to be laughing at him. Right? You remember that we was going like that when he hit the hands out, he was so mad it broke his braid. He just.100 could not believe that happened. Right? Neither could we. But I've never seen a situation take a guy on the floor like that, right? And just completely. Because Bron be trying as hard as to make the other kids feel better about themselves, right? Like, he's always trying to elevate them other dudes. He lost. Oh, my God, I was so funny.

[Ryan Glass]

He's so mad.

[Bomani Jones]

He was so mad. Justifiably bad. And I don't think they want. Did they win another game in that series?

[Ryan Glass]

No.

[Bomani Jones]

Okay. Yeah.

[Ryan Glass]

I mean, LeBron reportedly, like, sprained his hand afterwards because he was punching the wall or whatever.

[Bomani Jones]

That's right.

[Ryan Glass]

Showed up the Game four in the sprays.

[Bomani Jones]

That's right. Like, they packed it up after that. And it just. I mean, but they were up against something different, right? Okay. Cleveland packed this shit up after they lost that first game. Right? After they lost it, they packed it up. And look, they got blown out a couple of times. Philly got blown out like that. But I didn't feel like Philly packed it up. So I don't even know if it's fair to say that they had quit in games two and three. I don't. I don't know. I think they had just lost. They quit in game four. Like that. That halftime show on Inside the NBA where they were just like, why would we talk about this game?

[Ryan Glass]

They brought up the Webster's definition of quitting, right?

[Bomani Jones]

Except it wasn't Webster. It was just some shit they wrote down. Like, I looked at that. They were just There was nothing to talk about. They went from Char calling them quitters to Kenny Smith and Shaq in top hats singing New York, New York, and doing kicks like the Rockettes. It was so bad. It was immediate, like, oh, no. Remember Donovan Mitchell played pretty good. Hit some shots early, right? They look like they. They did that thing, that thing that teams do when they're down 3, 0, right? They got a little something going. And then at some point, they all asked themselves, do I really want to get on a plane again? Did I even bother to bring a suitcase? Nope.

[Ryan Glass]

A suitcase to Cancun, but not a suitcase back to New York.

[Bomani Jones]

This was a 1, 2, 3, Cancun classic. The Cancun, all three invitational. They just. They got destroyed. And then for two games in a row, Cleveland came out there in press conferences, and some important figure on the team decided to tell the world, we are a bunch of losers. Okay? Kenny Atkinson came out there and look, I listened to the whole Kenny Atkinson quote. And the point that he was trying to make is that there were some. There was an advanced metric called expected score. And that in three of the games up into that point, the Cavs were ahead in expected score. And he explained that in the press conference. The only line that came out of that was, analytically, we've won two out of three, you fucking loser. Nobody wants to hear that right now. Like, this is not. That's loser talk. That's fired on the spot right there.

[Ryan Glass]

Too stupid to coach my tackle basketball team.

[Bomani Jones]

You are not allowed to coach game four after this. You can't do this. You sure can't. You can't do that around those angry people.

[Ryan Glass]

No.

[Bomani Jones]

I don't know if you've ever met anybody from Cleveland, all right? What they don't have is much of a sense of humor.

[Ryan Glass]

No, that's just not about their sports teams.

[Bomani Jones]

No, not. What do they have a sense of humor about? And was probably 45 degrees. No. In Cleveland. No, you. They. Oh, my God, you can't say that. And then James Harden, who has no leeway. I will say again, no leeway whatsoever when it comes to looking like a loser. He got out there and said, I still think we're the better team. No, you're not. But just lost three games in a row by, no exaggeration, 1500 points. Go add it up. Right? You may go look at the newspaper and, hey, this doesn't add up to 1500 points. They're wrong. I watched the shit. It was 1500 points. Anybody who saw it knows outright they lost by 500 points, three times in a row. We all synced it. Everybody did. And you. You got out there and said, I still think we're the better team. Here's why. You can't say that. If you. James Harden, you can't say, I still think we're the better team. Because that then leads to the question, well, if you are the better team, then, then why did you lose four games in a row? And the only answer for being the better team but losing four games in a row is somebody. And here's a loser, like, such an overpowering loser that being the better team doesn't matter because that loser is there. And when people start asking themselves, well, damn, who's the loser? Where do you think they're going to look, James? Huh? Where do you think they're gonna go? That's right, Jimbo. They're gonna look right at you. Some combination between a choker and a bad luck charm. That's what they. That's what they saying. That's what. That's, That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's. That's all I'm trying to tell you.

[Ryan Glass]

Who could have seen this coming?

[Bomani Jones]

I just can't imagine sitting around during the season and you're like, yo, we got to do something. We try to win a championship. I think we can get Jimbo. And by the way, apparently agreed to allow Jimbo to come back on extension because otherwise. Otherwise Jimbo would be acting much different.

[Voicemail Callers]

Right.

[Bomani Jones]

If that was the case, We. We know how Jimbo acts when he is not, like, been taken care of in the way that he would prefer. We know this. I would just also like for them to note the Clippers look having a better run. They. They had a chance to make a run and do some things, and they were like, nah, we're not bringing Jimbo back.

[Ryan Glass]

We'll see. We'll see. We'll see you later.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, hey, let's get out ahead of this right now, because we know we ain't going to do that. Let's get out. That's what they did. All right? They. They decided. And y' all were like, huh? Yeah, But I think the Clippers mired in scandal. We're like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Y' all can have them. What? What? Are you serious? Are you serious? Like, no, no, no. Like, that was. That was. They look like losers. Okay? I don't. If somebody called me a loser, I would be ready to fight. That's the Only thing stopping me from, like, I feel like. I feel like I'm not being honest with people right now, and I don't like how that feels. But the game got rules, okay? But to be fair to the Cavs, to be fair to them, I want to know if the Knicks got some tape of that meeting. Remember, they had that. They had a meeting after game three, and then they turned into something unlike anything that I have ever seen. Like, they are, I feel like, really good to great NBA teams now feel more like really good to great college teams in the sense that it's not simply about who you got on the top line. Like, it's about a certain level of depth, a certain level of cohesion. Like, you think about, like, great college basketball teams that didn't create a bunch of great NBA players, Right? I mean, you know what I mean? Like, that's what it feels like it takes now, right?

[Ryan Glass]

Like, the days of only having six guys you can play in finals games are over.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Those aren't the teams that are great. And so if you look at it that way, where what I used to say is, you just got a handful of low spades on your team. The trick is apparently now is just having a bunch of spades, like a handful of spades that you could dictate the game. The Knicks are like, they got a bunch of, like, highish spades, right? There's no big joker on the team. Carl Anthony Towns is like a deuce. When the deuce is wild, it feels like a joker. And then a real joker shows up, right? I counted that book. However, he's doing pretty good guys, right. Right there. And it's. They to me. And what I find interesting about it is, it is the way in which they are beating these teams. And. And that is they look locked in in a way that teams typically don't look locked in that have never won anything. So the 01 Lakers, we talked to J. A D, we talked with him about that last week. That was a team that had won a championship and then kind of played with his food a bit during the regular season and then locked in and destroyed the whole league. The Knicks of all teams are playing with that kind of focus, right? Like, when you're watching them, it's just like, yo, this isn't. It isn't fluky. This isn't luck. This is just, we're coming to win today, guys. They showed up in the black for the funeral and did it and did it. Landry Shammon, who is not a good enough Player to deserve to wear number 44. I just want to throw that out there. There's a. There's a list of numbers. Okay. Number one. You either got to be really good or really small. That seem fair, right? Okay. I feel like 32 and 33 not good enough. You gotta. You gotta 23.

[Ryan Glass]

Well, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Bomani Jones]

You have to. You have to. Draymond Green, barely, right? But you have to earn your way into those. And also I feel like 44. I feel like in all sports, 44 carries a certain weight, right? You know, you gotta earn your way into 44. Landry Sham is like.

[Ryan Glass]

I bet you think Andrew Shamrock's more of like a prime number, like a 19.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. Landry Shamon is a bit more like. 44 is a number you choose, right? Landry Sham is supposed to be taking what they got. Like, Landry Shammon should be, like, wearing them numbers that Celtics and Yankees be wearing where they ain't got that many numbers left, right. I went to Yankees game the other night, man, anybody might be an offensive lineman in that wearing number 67. What?

[Ryan Glass]

I think every single digit's gone, right?

[Bomani Jones]

Every single digit. Not only is every single digit for the yankees gone, number eight is accounted for twice. One is Billy Martin, two is Derek Jeter, three, Ruth, four, Garrick, five, DiMaggio. Six, Tori, seven mantle. Eight is Barrett and Bill Dickey, and nine is Roger Maris. There are no single digits left for the Yankees.

[Ryan Glass]

I mean, the Yankees best player wears number 99.

[Bomani Jones]

This is correct. This is great. And the Yankees kind of retire. There are jerseys the Yankees retire that other teams would not like. The Red Sox, they are only retiring like star stars, right? Those are the ones Bernie Williams, Jorge Posada, I think Tito Martinez, even though I'm not. If he's not probably right. Andy Pettit, right? Those guys get Paul o', Neal, they retire Paul o' Neill's jersey, right? They. They got a lot of feel goods.

[Ryan Glass]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

You know, if you were for the

[Ryan Glass]

ride during a dynasty, you're probably getting.

[Bomani Jones]

Or also, but diametingly, because they just really liked him. Ron Guidry, because he was the guy at the time. It's a whole run of people. Anyway. All I'm Saying is number 44, Reggie Jackson. Landry Shamet gets to wear that. And that's not you. Everybody need to treat 44 like Syracuse Street 44. Right? You gotta earn this, baby. You gotta earn it. But anyway, they've been. This is one of the best months that any team has had in NBA history. This is Definitely the best month of basketball the New York Knicks have ever played. They're so happy, right? They are. They are. They are so thrilled. I tell you this, though. You ever seen Malcolm X?

[Ryan Glass]

It's been a long time, but, yes.

[Bomani Jones]

You remember that part where Malcolm told all the black people, we did like this, and they went like this and got them all to walk away when they had that march?

[Ryan Glass]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

That was the level of police presence that was outside of a Radio City Music hall yesterday. Because that's where the Watch party was ready for them to burn it down.

[Ryan Glass]

One of the Dark Knight movies.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes. Yes. Because the problem is this, where Radio City Music hall is like, I feel like if all those people were somewhere, even if they had been over there on 33rd street by the Garden, that have been one thing, Radio City Music hall is just a little bit too close to the tourists.

[Ryan Glass]

Yeah. I mean, well, you know, it's also right next to the Fox News building, so they don't really like groups of people standing out there.

[Voicemail Callers]

Anyway.

[Bomani Jones]

Got a great point. You got a great point. And I feel like a mere. A mere avenue or two away from Trump Tower.

[Ryan Glass]

Yes.

[Bomani Jones]

Not far.

[Ryan Glass]

Not far at all.

[Bomani Jones]

Not far. Oh, man, they did that bad. They. The Knicks, really?

[Ryan Glass]

And they. And all the fact that all of their fans, the celebrity fans, went and took over Cleveland, like, you think you were going to see Fat Joe show up in San Antonio.

[Bomani Jones]

Yo. Well, one way or another.

[Ryan Glass]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

One way or another. Right? This is. This is the thing. I also have to say this to you. Cleveland and I get where they were coming from, okay? And they were trying their hardest, basically, to stop courtside from being New York Knicks fan celebrity row. And I saw my man Ryan Glass speak. That made the point that it's kind of unfair that the Knicks can do this, because Knicks fans have more money. And it's not. It's. It's a little. To me, it's a little bit more complicated than that. Right. It's not simply about having more money. I once went to a concert in Europe because it was cheaper to go in Europe than it was to go in the United States because of everything that goes on with tickets here and everything else. Like, add a plane ticket and everything else, and it was cheaper to go in Paris than it was to go in the States. That's what this is for Knicks fans. Your tickets look like a steal, even including the plane ticket, because it's so expensive to go to Madison Square Garden.

[Ryan Glass]

Have you seen how much people are paying for Finals tickets?

[Bomani Jones]

I saw somebody Put a quarter mil down on courtside seats. I called my brother, and I was like, hey, man, what's the most that you'll be willing to pay to go to an NBA Finals game? And he said, $500. And there's no reason for us to talk about that shit again.

[Ryan Glass]

You. You might not be able to get to 35th Street.

[Bomani Jones]

That's what I was about to say. I don't even think they'll let you off the subway

[Voicemail Callers]

now.

[Ryan Glass]

You're not getting in a high rise to watch Madison Square Garden.

[Bomani Jones]

You can't even take New Jersey Transit to the World cup for $500, right? I was like, okay, that's not going to happen. And then I called Nick, and Nick was like, I'm the wrong person to ask because he'll spend on tickets. And then he's not. Like, we really started talking it through, and it was like, oh, this will probably cost two or $3,000 to get a seat worth having, right? Maybe, yeah, like this. This. Like, this could be that sort of thing. People are that ecstatic. They are that excited. They are that everything because they have been the best team in the NBA postseason by far. By far. It doesn't matter what you say about who they played against. And by the way, we ain't even really talking that much about what adjustments they've made or anything else. Like, we know they did the thing where they're like, we're gonna run the offense through Carl Anthony Towns and everything else. It don't matter what the they did, man. They just been doing it. And they're. The Knicks. The Knicks. This has happened. But anyway, the thing I was saying about the tickets, Cleveland, they. They. Dan Gilbert put it out there that if you sold your courtside seats to a Knicks fan, you will be permanently banned from the arena. I get it. You know what I mean? Like, and. And shout out to Dan Gilbert. What he really could have done was just made them prices sky high and just took all them New York people money, right? So he seemed to stand on principle in some way or another. So I understand why that happened. I get it. I'm not mad at him. Except There were clearly 10 courtside seats that they might as well have made available to Knicks fans. It was the ones that the Cavs were sitting in. Why. Why were they even there? They should have just had five dudes on the floor and made the Cavs sit on the ground. And then you make that money off Fat Joe and them. Because they mean, look, them dudes, they should not have been Allowed to sit down. They should have come out the game and had to go stand up, lean against the wall if you need some, if you need some air or whatever it is. But they didn't need those seats. They didn't come to the game. That was right there. All the money that you couldn't have, could have had when them motherfuckers did not show up. But the Knicks did and the Knicks have for a month and good gracious, they are going to the NBA finals. I believe Oklahoma City is in trouble if they are down Jalen Williams and they are down AJ Mitchell, who is amazingly important for a guy that I never heard of as of six weeks ago. The adjustments seem to be pretty clear though that they've decided to halfway guard have like, like the one and a half right double. Like the half double on Shay and what these other cats gonna do instead

[Ryan Glass]

of like 8 foot guy at the rim.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Instead of like these hard traps that then the ball goes around and Alex Caruso's wide open or something like that. Right? Like that is the thing about the eight foot guy is interesting to watch is that they don't have to switch, right? Like you can run that screen or whatever and then Victor's there just holding it down until you can get back over there. And then now you don't wind up with these crazy mismatches or anything else. They. They put a hurt on them in game four on Sunday and Chet has been rendered useless, right? Like Victor, that has become a rivalry like Serena and Sharapova, that at some point early in the game, Sharapova won them two and then she got her ass kicked for 20 years in a row. That's kind of. I mean it ain't been 20 yet. But this is, this is no longer a rivalry. Like it's at the point where I'm surprised that nobody has called Victor and said, hey man, it's over. You ain't gotta like you, you won, bruh. You won. Cause Chad, you see it on his face. I'm a Chet guy.

[Ryan Glass]

No, no, no, no, no. Doesn't wants to be anywhere else.

[Bomani Jones]

He. He's just like, that was supposed to be me. Like Victor's in the NBA looking like Chet did in high school. And if you go look at the clips of Chet in high school, they are unreal.

[Ryan Glass]

How much, how often do you think Chet has to do like this?

[Bomani Jones]

Right? Right. That's where he is. It is. Just got his Victor City's two hand dunk back. Once again, when everybody talks about how Victor is like, how he's not strong. No, no, no, no, no. But that's not true. He has base issues, right? Center of gravity issues. But Oklahoma City got to get this thing together, right? And I mean, I think we're going to know what they're going to do to try to get it together, which is turn up the fouling and turn up the flopping. That's, that's, that's what they do. I've seen the people on the Internet try to make the argument that it's really just some sort of narrative with Oklahoma City. And you can go and you can count it up and everything else. We, we watching the games, man. We seeing what they doing. But it dawned on me in game three that it was important to note they got a good one on San Antonio. In game three, it's important to note they be doing all that fouling, they be doing all that flopping, but it does not change the fact that they are really good. And that's why we got to start calling them what they are. The Oklahoma City Blue Devils. That's what they are, man. They some devils. They be out there playing devilish basketball all on the premise that you can't call everything. But then when you get down to it, deep down, you have to be like, yeah, man, but them cats are cold. Like they are. They are good and they are. They may be in trouble now. And by the way, their best player who falls down all the time. And you could say that part of that is him trying to stay healthy. Part of that is him being janky. Have you seen his on off numbers?

[Ryan Glass]

Have not.

[Bomani Jones]

They are much better with him off the floor and have been for like a couple series now. That's why, like I want to say it's like in the 40s, but you know what I think that is? He's playing most of his minutes when Victor's out there, right? Like early in the series, it became clear to me the Thunder weren't just going to have to win the non victor minutes, they're going to have to dominate the non victor minutes because the spurs are able to dominate in his minutes. Like this. Game five, shout out to my man Shannon, the pivotal Game five. This is. This is. Now we're. Now we're in it. Game five is pivotal. Game six, a team will stave off elimination, hoping to push it to a do or die game seven. But this one, this is, this is important. But it's also important that somehow we gotta like, make it known that this Duke shit does not prosper. Like, it's important for San Antonio to get this done. It's not just about whether or not they win or not. It's about sending a message to everybody that, like, you're not supposed to. You're not supposed to prosper in this way. This is. This. This. This isn't it. But they are so grabby. This is not. There's nothing to like about this team. And it's sad, because it should be everything to like about this team. And I'm gonna be honest with you, and this is the thing for me about the Thunder, as it goes. It's not even really fun because I feel like. I feel like it's. On one hand, it's people like us who think they play a little janky, right? And then on the other hand, it's people who are like, eh, what's the big deal? Okay? And that's not what it needs to be. If you gonna play basketball like that. Like, if you gonna play basketball like that, you need to be polarizing. And there's only one solution to that and the only way that they can become polarizing rather than just be a little bit janky. Y' all got to go get some more white boys in particular. Some, like, at least one or two really obnoxious white boys. And yes, I am saying and advocating for exactly what you think I'm saying. That's right. If y' all are going to do this, if y' all are going to play like this, you got to lean all the way in on it and go make a trade for Grayson Allen. If you gonna be out here living this way, emulating this. Because the worst thing about it is y' all a little bit passive aggressive about it, to be honest, right? Like, it's just annoying in such a way. Go the whole way and go get him in there to be tripping people, right? Be. If you gonna be the. If you gonna be Devils, turn it all the way up. Go out there, get you Grayson Allen. Where Greg Paulus at? Could he be an assistant coach? Get out there and teach them cats all the tricks of the trade or whatever it is. Like, if you're gonna do it, do it.

[Ryan Glass]

Is there another Hurley somewhere?

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, that's a good question. Maybe make that, like, have. Have. What's his name? Do they got, like, a bell or something that they ring before the game? Like, since they. The Thunder, can they get, like, a gong or something or something they can clap or whatever and get Christian Laitner to do it? Like, if you're Gonna be it. Be it. That's all I'm saying. If this is what you want to be, if this what you gonna stand for, then. Then go ahead and do it. Because right now, you're just impossible to like. That's all it is. No, be hateable. And then by being hateable, especially if you get the right blend of Caucasians, because you got to understand this, man. We've talked about this before. White people, when it comes to basketball, they got low self esteem. It's a real crab in a barrel kind of situation. It's been a long time since they've been able to, like, really galvanize behind some white players and in that way. But I feel like you guys could try. If y', all, like, turned into some actual factual champions, they won't be able to help themselves. Especially when you just juxtapose against the spurs and all them dreadhead brothers in the lobby that they got. You could turn this all the way up, especially just J. Just. Just with the way that y' all be playing. Y' all gotta do this because, look, you need to understand this. I think we all, like, got a handle on the greatness that Victor is headed toward, but I now fully understand how great he about to be. And you know how I notice y', all? It already getting them right here at them corners. Right there at the corners. That hairline is already starting to run away. Like all the greats, right? Like now back in the day, you're like Russell and Chamberlain, for whatever reason, they wouldn't like that. But in modern times, it's become very clear if you truly gonna be a great, you gotta have some of these. You know, Jordan, LeBron, Kevin Durant. I mean, if you pay attention to Steph Curry. And Corner's been running away from him for a while, too. Kobe, he had the same issue. Kobe was out there. Kobe, after a point, Kobe had the lowest number of hair clippers ever, so he could still say that he was getting haircuts, right? It's heading that way, Victor going that way. Y' all need to be careful, boy. Let me tell you something, man. And I know some of y' all gonna think I'm hating, but a lot of y' all gonna know exactly what I got to say about this. It's a little different to tell this with white people because the nature of yalls hair allows y' all to account for this, to cover for this in much different ways. But I feel like I don't really want to say this dude name, but I saw this dude on television the other day, he had a hairline down to his eyebrows. And with the exception of my man Michael Smith, everybody that got a hairline like that, don't not one of them motherfuckers deserve it. Everybody who got like a super persistent hairline, he ain't. You know he ain't. They don't never deserve it. The real ones, the true great ones. This is something that we got to overcome every day for us is a challenge. Iron sharpens iron and we thereby become better people. We become better at everything we do. That's who we are. But when you see them cats with them hairlines down here, and I'm not talking about the cheaters, I'm talking about the actual ones. And I'll say it, I was talking about PK Subod. He really bothered me last year when he got out there. I told people he wasn't talking like a white man, he was talking like a hockey player. Hey, I stopped watching the NBA when Kobe retired. What? Why you even get out here and say that? And look at his hairline all the way down to his eyebrows is always somebody that don't deserve it. Also exceptional. My man Joel. Joel has a rather persistent hairline. But not saying he doesn't deserve it, but he do be hating on people a lot. 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[Bomani Jones]

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[Ryan Glass]

All right Bo if you haven't heard some drama in New York, Jackson Dart got in some trouble for introducing Donald Trump at a rally. His teammate, teammate Abu Carter, tweeted that the this thought this S dash t was AI. What we Doing, man, Boho's reaction.

[Bomani Jones]

I don't know why that was so funny to me when you sit there, because I could hear it. I can hear it. I thought this was AI. What are we doing here? Okay, me and my man Rod were talking about these yesterday. I did not see this because I was in transit, but apparently he was talking about it on get up. And I don't know who was hosting, but he was like, whoever was hosting was like, we don't want to talk about the politics here. Nobody cares about the politics. Yes, we do. That's the whole reason anybody cared. This idea that we don't care about the politics of athletes. Yes, we do. Now, whether you care enough about the politics that it affects whether or not you root for them on your team, that becomes a different situation and that becomes just a little bit tricky, right? Like, will you, if you are a Giants fan, will you stop rooting for the Giants because Jackson Dart is a Trumper? Probably not, right? But don't tell me you don't care. The World Cup's about to come up, okay? If Belgium is playing the Congo, who you think I'm rooting for and why? Okay, we do care about the politics. Don't act like you don't. All right? What struck me about this, and I also want to be clear about this, the whole, you know, this is going to fracture the. The locker room, NFL locker rooms are wild, segregated and full of white players who support Trump and black players who support Trump. Okay? That is that. That is not no revolutionary rule. Okay? That's. That. That's not how. That's not how the NFL works, All right? This is why the Jackson Dart thing is interesting to me. Me and my man Rob would talk about this too. And he said that this is what Abdul Carter is saying to Jackson Darth. And this is what I'm saying to Jackson Dart. Take that monkey. She off. You embarrassing us. And what I'm talking about is this you in here. Think about all the love that he got for them chains when he out here doing dances and all of this stuff. I guarantee you it's a few cats in there that was like, oh, he cool. Not only does he pull up, like, introducing Trump. Can we be honest about this? He sounded stupid. And I'm not saying simply because he was there with Trump. What did he, what. How did he say that I am pleasured to be here. And then he says something about, I don't think there are a lot of blue haired, blue heads or something like that. Yeah, yeah, that blue Hairs. I think you said not a lot of blue. What are you talking about? Old people? Is that. Was that like.

[Ryan Glass]

I think that is like a. A online descriptor of people of the far left.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, but I'm like, but when I. People with blue hair when I was growing up, that's what we said about old people.

[Ryan Glass]

Got it.

[Bomani Jones]

But you think there are Democrats that root for the Giants? Like, I think it's stupid that people are like, oh, that's a really dumb thing for him to do, playing in New York. You know how liberal New York is. New York is not nearly as liberal as you think. Right. Let me tell you where it's really not as liberal as you think. MetLife. Right. Like, go meet some Giants fans, okay? Like Rudy Giuliani. He lives in New York, too, and he won a couple of elections up here. That's all I'm saying. Like, this is not the liberal bastion that you think it is. It's not that. But it would be helpful, Jackson Dart, if you did some winning. Right? Like, if. Like if this is the game you decide to play and look, you can go ahead and do that if you want. Right. That is his option. I do think it's important to note that. The best way to put this. I do think that it is important to note that Trump is not the same as any other politician. Standing with Trump is not just people, and people have a problem with it. It's not simply. I disagree with your politics. Okay. Somebody went up there and stood with Curtis Sliwa during the mayoral election. It's not going to be a thing. Right. It wouldn't have been an issue. This is very particularly about this very particular man. But if you want to try to tell me that nobody cares about the politics of the quarterback, then I need you to explain to me why Donald Trump thought it was worth having the quarterback at his rally.

[Ryan Glass]

I have a quick observation.

[Bomani Jones]

Feel free.

[Ryan Glass]

After Jackson Dart's first year in the league, what do you think was the biggest thing he needed to work on his decision making? Risk aversion.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. I was about to say, know what a bad idea. Know what a bad idea?

[Ryan Glass]

Not charging headlong into a dangerous situation that would harm himself or his teammates.

[Voicemail Callers]

No.

[Ryan Glass]

I would argue, regardless of your politics, you'd have to agree. Still needs to work on his risk aversion.

[Bomani Jones]

By the way, shout out to Steve Tisch. Remember him? Remember that guy?

[Ryan Glass]

Yeah.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah.

[Ryan Glass]

So talk about something we haven't mentioned in a while.

[Bomani Jones]

Oh, God. Hey, man. He had to go. And for those of you Who? Don't remember. Steve Tisch was in the Epstein files. And it's still so funny. Them girls was just trying to get. Get bodily jobs. The girls are just trying to, like, not go back to one one of them lobbyists, right? They just. They just didn't want to go back to the old country. Steve just looking for love. The girls was complaining to Epstein, like, yo, I just thought I was gonna have to go on a couple dates maybe. Awesome. This dude, like, he's looking for a relationship. I thought he was just a trick.

[Ryan Glass]

All right, moving on. The Score act piece of legislation aimed to curve the big business of college sports has been torpedoed by the congressional back glacis. This move came last week. They said in the statement, quote, for generations, black athletes have helped build college athletics into one of the most powerful and profitable industries in American life. Yet at this very moment, those same communities face coordinated attacks on their democratic representation. Too many leaders across college athletic have chosen silence. Bo, you had a reaction to this piece of news?

[Bomani Jones]

Okay, so Joel and I talked about this last week, but unfortunate for us, the news of the NAACP and the CBC getting together for this boycott, it came literally while we were sitting down. So, like, Joel and I were kind of going through it and talking through it, and he and I. It's been great to talk. It was great to talk to him that day. And he and I have kind of stayed in communication about this, and it's been great to kind of help me think about what is going on. I know he's writing something about this for the Ringer that I look forward to checking out, but that detail right there really struck me because I. One place where I don't think I express myself in ways I don't think I express myself correctly is that I do not think that college athletes are too young to participate in a struggle or a resistance against the political order of the day. Again, my mother was out there, 14, 15 years old, getting shit done. So obviously, I see an appreciation and a value in young people participating. But I do think something worth noting and what I remember about the story with my mom that is important, is that it was a group of these students in Oklahoma City, and they were taken to New York City to see a Broadway play. And that was the first time in their lives that they had been somewhere that was not under the thumb of segregation. And so they got a taste of what a certain life was, and then that comes back and informs them and informs their struggle and their resistance to what was going on. But they had A taste and an understanding of what's going on here. My issue with this was the idea that I felt like people of a certain level of status and prestige were outsourcing the fight to young people. Not unlike politicians who send young people off to fight a war. Right. Like, I felt like in order to achieve the goals that they thought that were important, that what they were advocating is for somebody else to go fight the fight. And I don't really understand what it is that you over here doing. Right. And so what I do not approve of is. Is asking these young people to make a sacrifice in the name of what you want, when I'm not sure that you're going to be out here making a similar sacrifice yourself. Okay? That's where my issue came down. This thing about the SCORE act is very important in understanding my point. And it actually left me even more infuriated with the CBC on this. The SCORE Act. For those of you who don't know, the NCAA has poured millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars into lobbying in Congress. We did something about this on Game Theory, I want to say, in 2023. My guy, Andrew Cooper, talks a lot about this also. They have spent a lot of time, a lot of effort and a lot of money in lobbying Congress to beg Congress to save them from. From the mess they have created by not coming up with a way to treat players properly and figure out how to equitably deal with all the money that's come in. Somebody's had to sue them at every step to get them to do something that is close to being right. And now it's led to this measure of chaos where the money's all over the place. The money, they say it's nil, but it's really salary. But all these things, right? So the SCORE act is what the NCAA has wanted to get pushed through, and Donald Trump had tried to push through. Okay. It did not get to the floor for a vote. Now, I think it's important to note that this is a bit of a bipartisan issue, Right? And when I say a bipartisan issue, I mean the idea of approving of name, image and likeness payments and compensation for players, which used to be a bipartisan issue in opposition and then kind of became a partisan issue with where those toward the left were more in support than those on the right. And there have been studies that showed that how you felt about civil rights was a correlating factor into how you felt about paying players. Now, when you look across the board, like Bob or former Chief justice of the North Carolina Supreme Court. That is a Republican man who for the last 15 years has been strongly on the player side of these matters. That is an example. Tom Mars, the attorney who I don't believe is a very left wing figure that I've talked to. He's on this side. Like you go look at it. It's become a bipartisan thing to be on the side of the players on this one with the SCORE Act. Byron Donalds in Florida is on the player side of this. Other Republicans are on the player end, on the end of this opposing the SCORE Act. One of the biggest oppositions or reasons to oppose the SCORE act is the SCORE act puts all a disproportionate amount of power to the NCAA on what to do. It overrides a lot of these state laws that protect NIL payments in it prevents players from unionizing and collectively bargaining and also from being recognized as employees. That is what the SCORE act does. The AFL CIO has a very strong thing that you can find online in opposition to the SCORE act, right? Just about anybody I know, including Andrew Cooper and other people who work in organizing on the player side are opposed to the score rack. The Byron Donald's dude. His opposition on it is, is a restriction of trade. Basically that is why many Republicans oppose it because it restricts the economic power and flexibility of the players. It is an anti player proposition, okay? And the Congressional Black Caucus has made it seem as though they would have been willing to vote for the SCORE act if they got the redistricting that they wanted or wanted to prevent the redistricting that we have seen happen in some places, okay? If they were willing to vote for this position provision that works in opposition of the players in order to get what they want, that explicitly means that they are willing to sacrifice the interests of these young men and women for their own goals. It means that they are literally sending these young men and women to the front line of a fight while they sit back. This is why I am opposed to what this is that they talking about. This is also why I don't be wanting to go to their little weekend in D.C. because what are you doing? What are you doing? How dare you guys get out here and actually say that. Now maybe what you were just trying to do is to claim some credit and make it seem like you was making some noise, right? Maybe that's why you want to do it. Maybe that's why you're going about this. But if you want to get this done, think about this. The players that you're talking about and you want to want not to go to these southern schools. You're by and large talking about high school players. Okay, guess what? High school players can't do vote. Like, as it stands for them. This is an issue that isn't really relevant to them. That's why I brought up the thing about my mom and them going to New York. Once they go to New York, they understand what the situation is that they're in. They give them a different perspective. And now they got a taste in it. Now they got skin in the game. Now they got an investment in wanting something to change. You are asking people who literally cannot vote to make decisions based on voting. Now you could say, oh, okay, well, the theory and all of this is obvious. Maybe it is. But the move is you need to get on the ground and start working not just on them, but, but on everybody early. Because the truth is we slept at the wheel just a little bit when all these things happened. They never did vote. Rights act passed in 1965, and since 1965, they've been trying to get that shit rolled back. Now we jumping up, talking about, hey man, let's have a boycott. No, let's get on the ground, let's organize and let's start thinking about this like a 20 year project. But as of right now, it feels like all these people are trying to do is run a transactional game and the currency that you're using for the transaction is these young people. And they are too young to be bargaining chips.

[Ryan Glass]

All right, Bo, couple of voicemails, a lot of good ones. Here is our first.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hey, Bomi, this is Will from Oklahoma City. So I had this idea. I've noticed all the the NBA playoffs talk has been about refs and fouls. And number one, that's very dorky. But my idea to fix this is, and it goes across any sports, all refs should be ex players. Let me know what you think about that. All right, bye.

[Bomani Jones]

All right, so he said all refs should be X players, X players. I kind of like that, Right? What you think about that?

[Ryan Glass]

I. I kind of especially like players who used to be enforcers. Can you imagine? Or players who used to yell at refs. Can you imagine like KG as a ref?

[Bomani Jones]

Oh my God.

[Ryan Glass]

Or like Rajon Rondo as a referee.

[Bomani Jones]

I feel like that would wind up being an extension of these guys now being in the media.

[Ryan Glass]

It would turn into wrestling very quickly.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes, yes. But like these guys, like, everything is different. Like on the wire in season five when Jimmy McNulty became the boss, right? He's like, hey, man, this is not what I thought it was. I don't. I think the refs. If they were, you know, losing their jobs as a result of this, I think the refs would love this as much, if not more than anybody else. If. Even if it was just, like, we gonna do it for, like, a week

[Ryan Glass]

just to punish him. Like. Like l. Instead of Luca being suspended, he has to be a ref for a game.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah. Yeah. Let's just go see it. Well, the other thing that h. That's gonna happen, too, is now we gonna see refs fighting, right? Like, not like, now we gonna see refs and players scrapping it out again.

[Ryan Glass]

Wrestling.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes. Yes. You know what? Great, great idea, Will from Oklahoma City. And the best part is if a 4. If the refs were all former players, although that would be a really bad economic move. Like, let some other people get some money, right? Yeah, for sure. But if the refs were former players, then your beloved Blue Devils would not be able to get away with so much of this jankiness.

[Ryan Glass]

All right, here's our next one.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hi. Good morning. This is Carter from Brooklyn, New York. I just wanted to say, the episode with you and Spencer Hall, Y' all really need to write that book on where the money is from, because I knew the money came from somewhere. I just didn't know it got that deep in certain schools and certain conferences. I love to learn. And when you learn, when you know what you're watching, you see it differently. I mean, keep doing your thing. Have a great day.

[Bomani Jones]

Yeah, I appreciate you saying that. And I really think that me and Spencer might need to, like, look into this.

[Ryan Glass]

It's at least an extended podcast series.

[Bomani Jones]

Yes, I would. I tell you this, though. I would need to get my weight up. It would not be hard to tell what Spencer wrote and what I wrote, and I don't mean that in a fashion that is complimentary to myself.

[Ryan Glass]

All right, here's our last one.

[Voicemail Callers]

Hey, what's up, y'? All? This is Eric calling in from Los Angeles, California. I just started doing deliveries for a dispensary, and I really, really hate my job. Not exactly how I want to be making a living, but I just got laid off from my job, and I didn't feel like depleting my savings, so I decided to pick up some hourly work to just keep myself financially steady. So, as I've alluded to earlier, not really a fan of my job, so I do little things to help pass the time. In my eight hour shift. So one of the funniest things or one of the things that I do is when a name pops up for cannabis delivery, I decide. Well, not decide. I basically try to guess if this person is black or white. And so I would get John Smith, Michael Johnson, just like Saturday names here and there and I just, I just guess that they're black or white. There was one instance where there was a woman named Harmony Jenkins and I was just like, oh, dead ass, this is black. I was dead wrong. So this deliver was in Hollywood, drove up to it and Ms. Harmony was a very bubbly white woman, very pleasant to talk to. We, we shot the breeze for about five minutes and exchanged pleasantries and went about my day. I walked away thinking that that was the biggest shock of my very short cannabis delivery career, but one of the funniest experience I've had so far in this recent. In my recent employments or trying to figure stuff out. But anywho, thank you, Bomani. Thank you. Thank you for all that you do. You and the crew. God bless. I'll talk to you later. Bye bye.

[Bomani Jones]

I don't think there's anything I can add to that. Ryan. Wow. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, thanks so much for joining. Thanks for joining us here on the right time. We do this four days a week. Ryan Bradley handles everything behind the scenes. Thank you, sir. Hit the voicemail line. 323-59-67767. Remember, follow the right time. Subscribe like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater. We'll talk to you guys in a couple of days. Take it easy.