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The Right Time with Bomani Jones
Van Lathan breaks down Stephen A. Smith vs. Jason Whitlock beef, TSA airport Chaos | 03.25
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Bomani Jones
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Van Lathan
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Bomani Jones
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Van Lathan
Foreign.
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Bomani Jones
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the Right Time a Wave original. My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you get your podcast. Thanks for watching us on YouTube, subscribe, like, rate us, review us, give us five stars. You only give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are a hater and it is that time of week where we have a guest join us. Check them out on Ring a Tailgate. Check him out on Higher Learning. I mean this when I say that I believe the Van Lathan right now is the most versatile talker that we have really just about anywhere.
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Van Lathan
Oh man, I appreciate that bro. Versatility is very, very important to me. That's you know and I I guess I'm versatile but it's also just a ton of to talk about right now.
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Bomani Jones
No, there are is but you also can cuz I mean I admit that part of this is you can talk about all those things that I want to hear you talk about and you are really good at talking about all kinds of dumb shit that I don't really care about and then movies which are not dumb shit but not necessarily my space. Like I feel like I feel like we could drop you off at a bar and whatever they on you can go get on it.
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Van Lathan
Well that's kind of. That's kind of what podcasting is. It's trying to like make friends and meet people at a specific wavelength and ride that wavelength till you have an audience and a community that you've built. So I take a lot of pride in that. But.
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Bomani Jones
But not everybody can talk on all the podcast. Like, I feel like at the Ringer, you ever hear Jimmy Jam tell that story about going to school with Prince and, like, every instrument he tried to get on, it's like, damn, Prince is on that one too. Like, there's somebody at the ringer that's like, yo, I got this. And then they pull up and it's like, dude, he in here too.
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Van Lathan
Well, I. I think, to be real with you at the Ringer, and this is what we finding out with our mutual friend at the Ringer, it's probably more of those Swiss army knives than at least has been. At least I've worked with before. Like, at the Ringer, when they kind. If you a one trick pony, there you. That one trick gotta be fantastic.
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Bomani Jones
You and Bill getting together. I was like, oh, this could work. This is a. This is a strong pairing.
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Van Lathan
He knew it too. I was kind of trying to feel my way around. But you know what? It was a really good situation in the beginning. The first podcast I did at the Ringer was Way down in a Hole, which you heavily influenced by. The way heavily, heavily influenced Way down in the Hole. Because the whole. Now you've completely changed the Internet. When we first started that, you don't actually talk about this that much. When we first started that podcast, the idea that Stringer Bell was a fuckboy, which Jamel got into, was kind of novel. I want you to go into Wire lore now, though. There are legitimate YouTube videos. How dumb is Stringer? The top 10 dumbest things that Stringer did. Yes, I think it was me, because I will fight Jamel about this. I tell Jamil, like, you changed the way. She goes, no, I didn't. She goes like, it actually comes from Bomani. And so for me, it was hard for me to see at first because, boy, when you grow up in the neighborhood, you want to believe that the smarty art nigga is the smarty art nigga. You want to believe it so bad. The dude that come along and go, hey, man, you heard about chemtrails? You like, oh, shit, break it down. You know what I'm saying? And then it turns out that Stringer, even though he did make a lot of moves that were, I guess you could say were smart moves, he. He. He could see different things and stuff like that. There are certain things he told d'. Angelo. He said, hey, hold their pay. And the first people that buck the people that don't buck up are the people that's probably snitching. He had some stuff, but most of the big things, total width, I couldn't see it. That's how I started at the ringer, way down in the hole. And that kind of got me comfortable. And ever since then, it's kind of been smooth sailing, yo.
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Bomani Jones
I ain't gonna lie. I don't like it sounds terrible when I say this, but I feel like I have had, like, a couple moments of legitimate cultural influence, and I don't really talk about it that much, and I probably need to because it get forgotten, because I do agree, people was on a whole different kick about Stranga until I brought them this year. Truth and that Truth. That truth was before them. And people saw the other thing. The other thing is I got y' all to stop saying that one dude's name out loud. You remember old boy? He. He got a son that played both partners, right?
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Van Lathan
Now, that was different, though.
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Bomani Jones
I got everybody to understand that that ain't. That ain't gonna be what we do.
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Van Lathan
Nah, that was. That was me and you. That was after I had had him on the podcast. And then me and you talked, and that was more of like a. Like a personal thing. And so that. That. Me and you talk. Even when I see what's going on now, I'm like, ah, somebody didn't get the memo. It is what it.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, like, hey, man, you know, hey, hey, look, it. It ain't for me to. It ain't for me to be the one to tell you right now. Now, we had a plan to just kind of talk about a few things with Van, but one just dawned on me. I generally stay out of this one, but I. I can't help it because I'm talking to you. And I really think that you're one of the few people. I think that we could actually have an interesting conversation about this that is not just messy. When are Stephen A and Whitlock just gonna scrap it out?
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Van Lathan
Shit. It seems like to me that that's what Stephen A wants.
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Bomani Jones
And for those who don't know, by the way, Winlock went on Cam Newton's podcast, which, woo, he said a bunch of wild shit over there. Like.
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Van Lathan
Like, I didn't see it.
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Bomani Jones
Oh, man, I just saw clips. The. The big one was there wasn't the clip I saw that let me know, okay, like, we're in something else. And Cam, who does stand Stephen A's show? I. I would not have booked that interview Myself. And it seems very clear to me that Stephen A. Thinks the Cam should not have booked that interview, but whatever. But they would talk about that time that people saw Stephen A. Playing solitaire at the basketball game. And Whitlock said, just say that you're gay and you don't like basketball.
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Van Lathan
Wow.
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Bomani Jones
Both of those are like, is it just because it was solitaire? I will admit that's kind of like playing pinochle or Jen Rummy or what. Like all the games in the world. I remember solitaire was the game we had to play on device joint. Yeah, yeah. Now. Now he's playing it. All right, do. I saw this clip of Stephen A. And Stephen A said he started a gofundme for, and I quote Fat Bastard Lock. Cuz Stephen A ain't heard nothing about we ain't supposed to talk about fat people like that. And then said, do you need some money, bro? Reach in his pocket, pull out his wallet and threw bills on the floor. And I assure you they were not fives.
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Van Lathan
Nah, nah. Let me tell you what I learned about Stephen A in his retort in this entire deal. So I don't know how much I've ever learned about basketball watching First Take or learned about football. Learned about none of that stuff. ESPN got a lot of great shows where you go on the show and you learn a ton about what they talking about. I think ESPN's football coverage is the best in the business. Right. And their basketball coverage too, in different places. First Take is not about that. First Take is an entertainment show where the personalities really drive. The reason that you watch it, that's the reason why you watch it. You're not going to go there and learn what a ram screen is or learn about different actions or all of that points per possession, all of that stuff. You're not going to learn that on first tape, but you are going to see really inciting basketball and football and sports culture discussions. I think in the response to Whitlock, I finally learned why Stephen A. Is A one of one when it comes to that. Forget about the rhetorical nutrition of what was in there because there's really nothing that he can say about Jason Whitlock that we don't already know. Right. He's not going to expose anything about Jason Whitlock that we never heard before or give us any new ideas about him. That's not going to happen. But what he can do is like paint a picture. And when you do that, you almost got to be like a writer, director. The suit that he was wearing that might be the best Stephen A. Smith has ever looked in a suit. The suit was cold. The suit was shiny, like. And so when he got around the table to sit on the suit, to sit on the table to show the suit off, he's going, yo, look at me. Look how crazy fly I look. Look at my studio. Look at my life. I'm not asking you guys to get with me or be on my side because Jason Whitlock isn't as smart as me or Jason Whitlock isn't as erudite as me or whatever. I'm telling you. Who would you want to be? That was the thing. Like, I'm. He's looking in the camera. He's not going. You know, I'm not saying none of this. All. He might be a fraud and all of that stuff, but look, who would you want to be in this situation? Like Max Kellerman says about scoring a boxing round, you could easily score the round by just saying, which guy would you rather be? And that's what Stephen A. Did. And that's easy to understand. You don't have to translate that. Like, I watched it, and I was like, oh, this is his attempt to sun him in a profound way. And last thing I'll say is a lot of these media beefs, and they are getting to be just absolutely, just almost. It's an unfathomable, fathomable amount of media beefs. I just can't, like, I can't gauge how many you guys don't even understand. The ones that even don't come to the light where we all on text trying to stop people from going at each other. It's just like a completely different time in media that we're in right now. This one is different, though. This one is different. This one is, like, I'm not ruling out a TMZ headline three months from now. They saw each other somewhere, and Stephen A. Put hands on them. They really don't like each other in a visceral way. And it comes across Stephen A. With a scowl. He's like, he.
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Bomani Jones
It's all. It's totally different.
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Van Lathan
It's totally. Well, it's totally different, bro. It's totally different. It's weird. I don't know that I've seen one like this.
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Bomani Jones
Like, I go back. I go back with Whitlock. I haven't talked to Whitlock in a very long time, but I go back a long way with your man at a time. He was like, I tell people this all the time. Whitlock put me on in ways that nobody else did, right? Like there's a. I don't talk about Whitlock that much in public because I was cool with him at a time where he did some fucked up things to other people. And I didn't say much about it
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Van Lathan
because isn't that a bad situation to be in?
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Bomani Jones
Right? Because I was cool with him at the time, right?
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Van Lathan
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
But if I didn't say that he was fucking up, then I am not the appropriate narrator to say he's fucking up now, you know? You understand what I'm saying? Like. Like that, like that would. I don't know. That doesn't sit right with me. And like I said, there are a lot of people in this game that I know I don't get on with Dan. If not for Whitlock, in all likelihood. Like, that's a. Like that's a. That's a big part of it. Somewhere along the way that all changed, right? But I'm not. I'm not gonna say there are not the. The things that are bad to say about Whitlock. People don't need me to say them. They're self evident, right? Like, they're like. I don't have an observation necessarily, but I bring all that up to say I know why Stephen A. Does not fuck with him. Like, I specifically understand what I know when it really went, right? And I don't blame Stephen A. For how he feels. I don't really understand what it is on Whitlock's end that he has such a problem with Stephen A. Smith on, right? Like on that other side. I don't get it. I get where Stephen A. Comes from. We see what it looks like when Stephen A. Is TV mad or like TV charged up about some topic or whatever it is that he's going to say. Like, for example, Stephen A. Does not like LeBron James. He's honest about the fact that he doesn't like LeBron James. I think he gets a bad rap for. For like, how much he talks about it because he keeps going all. He won't turn an interview down. So he goes and does interviews with people who only go talk to him once in life. And they're like, ooh, ask him about LeBron James. And he'll answer every question, right? So it seems like he always talks about him. My point is simply, he don't sound nearly as mad talking about LeBron James as he sounds when he talks about Whitlock. And we know he can't stand LeBron. He hates Whitlock, hates Him what gets me about it. And I think you hit it early. We talked about media beefs is I don't know what somebody would have to say to me about me in this business for me to make it content out of it. Right. Like, I feel like there's a level at which we are all above this, but people love it. If you go look at the numbers on all that stuff. People eat this stuff up. When we get to arguing with each other.
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Van Lathan
Yeah, I mean. I mean, that's in this. That's in anything, right? Like, it's. It's like I was a deer hunted my entire. My entire childhood, right? My whole childhood, a deer hunted. And there's something that you do to call deer, and you take two horns and you rattle them. You rattle the deer to you. There's all kinds of different things you can do to call deer deer calls. There's, you know, you wear the deer spray. Sometimes we would take a little deer piss and put it on us. Okay? During a rut, you put, like, deer piss on yourself. The deer, you know, during the rut, the deer comes to you. But one thing you do is you rattle the deer. Take two rattles and you rattle. And the reason why that calls deer is because the other deer think that two deer are fighting. So the other deer think that two. Two. Two deer are fighting.
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Bomani Jones
They gotta come see it.
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Van Lathan
What's going on? Like, what's happening? You rattle them up, and they think that two deers are locking horns. This is something that's territorial. During the rut, they're fighting for a dough, the whole nine, whatever. So, like, you. You rattle, and the deer come to come by. Like, ask my dad. I'm like, dad, why would that make two deer come? It's like, well, shit, everybody wants to stop and watch a fight. So we get them over there, they stopping to watch a fight, boom, we hit them with the goddamn 30R6. But what I'm saying is that I understand. I'm not pure in this. I work at TMZ for nearly a decade. So for me personally, the calculus is always at. For me, right now, at this point in my career, just a back and forth. It has to be about more than just personality. It has to be about. It has to be nutritious. For me, if there's, like, something that I've said or something that I've done or something that someone else has said or done that I can then sort of pull back on and expose the analysis in a way that is more meaningful, I'll do It. But the people that I don't like in this industry or I don't like, jive with or get along with, I really try to ignore them and stay out of their way because I'm too emotional. Like a lot of this stuff, they. Stephen A also has an ability and a lot of people at this level have an ability to. That is really underrated. It's an ability to be personal but not be consumed by it. So I don't think that Stephen A somewhere right now is going, yo, the next time I catch Whitlock, I'm a. I'm a like, I don't think he's being that way. I think that could happen if he saw him. But I really do think he gets into that on a Thursday and then on a Friday he's on to the next thing. I ruminate, I get obsessed. I'm like, yo, is this. It gets to me in a way that it doesn't get to other people. I don't think that it gets to him that way. I do think though, that if he ever ran into Jason Whitlock, that the animus is deep enough that something would happen.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah. And the thing with Whitlock is Will, I don't really get mad. Like, think of all the times you've seen Willock and things you've seen Will I talk about. It doesn't go like that. You know what I mean? It's not a. It's not an up down situation. Which make it worse when you, you get super hot because that's when somebody say something that make you really want to burn this motherfucking down. Right? But I think the part that, that, that strikes me is I am amazed at how many people are able to make a living covering us. Right. Nobody goes to a sports game to watch the refs. Nobody goes to watch the media. But when the game is over, I am shocked by how many people make their living. I can name people that make a living talking about me, right? Like, it floors me that people care that much, particularly about sports media. I know that there is some coverage around the other media worlds and maybe I'm not as aware of the discussion because it's not about me, but they talk. In sports media in particular, people talk about us so much more. And now you add the player part of it. And so the players, they gonna have their back and forths with each other. They gonna have the ones where they come at the media. People maybe they don't like or whatever it is, but it's like a wrestling shoot. Every time it feels like somebody decides to log on and get the thing cracking. Like with Stephen A. That was a long ass shoot. Like you a wrestling dude, you know, like, that was a long ass shoot. And I just. I just can't. Nobody can ever. Nobody can ever say that I take myself too seriously. Because clearly there are other people out here that take me way more seriously than that.
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Van Lathan
Well, I don't know that they care about you as much as they care about mess. And the way I know this or the reason why I suspect this is because of me. I'm on YouTube and I'm looking around on YouTube. I watched a video yesterday. The video was 15 minutes and it was about Brendan Schaub. Like Brendan Schaub, the MMA fighter who also became a comedian, the fighter and the Kid, the whole nine. It was a 15 minute video about Brendan Schaub. And it was all of this that had happened. Apparently Brendan Schaub tried to hit on a comedian's wife or something. I don't know. It was all of this that happened like last year or the year before. Two years ago, they made a song out of out of it. The song was called Trug Walk. It was based on Plug Walk because apparently Shab had asked this girl to walk him out to his truck. And she felt like he was asking him, asking her to walk out there because he wanted to get a blowjob or something like that. It was a whole thing. Here's the point. I don't give a fuck about none of this.
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Bomani Jones
You were riveted.
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Van Lathan
I was enthralled. Now, there were famous people involved in this that I knew, right? There were names like Bobby Lee was involved, like all these different comedians. And I knew those names, but that's not why I was watching. I was watching because this ended up being a fucking opera of mess. An opera of mess. And then it led into, like, how Brendan Schaub is considered now is Brendan Shaw. And then I thought, wait a minute, they at war in Iran. I need to watch some other fucking shit right now. What the fuck am I doing? But I just think the Internet is such fertile ground for narrative creation and also for playing on our basis instincts, which is if you rattle horns, deer come to see what's up, and if two people are into it, we want to know why.
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Bomani Jones
Yo. So it's. So I think that last part really drove something home for me that I think is interesting. That. And I've been reading all these different things about the Internet driving our base impulses and how these people have figured out that, like, rage is what really drives the ship, right? Like, like. Like rage is where making people mad, people can't help it. They keep coming back to it. But you are right in that some for real complicated mess that is. That's hard to pass up, man. Like mess that has actual factual layers to it no matter what it is. If you see something that is like a progressive chain of mess and we have the situation where longer, you know, a big part of it is with the Internet, people decide to make it public because they want the attention. So now it comes up for everybody else. But like I ever tell you about the time I was at the airport and this white man had all these people trying to beat him up and I couldn't figure out what it is. And it turned out that he had called somebody the nword and then did it at Hartsfield. Oh, right, right, right.
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Van Lathan
This motherfucker got a.
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Bomani Jones
So he does it at Harfield and. Yeah, so he does it at Hartsville. And somebody tried to get him and it was some army cats and they were holding the dude back. And then somebody else got heated enough to try to get him again. And, you know, there was a little back and forth or whatever. Then finally the white man started walking away. And for some reason I just decided to follow him because I figured that the mess wasn't over yet. And so I just kept walking. And he went into the Hudson News and he was talking to the black people that were with the black women that were working in the Hudson News. And he was talking about how these people were trying to beat him up. And. And it was all. It was giving him the sympathy or whatever. And I couldn't help it, man. I just popped up and I was like, hey, man, he called a couple people the N word over there and they were like, what? And he kept talking to stuff about, my brother works for the FBI, like his brother was going to save him and everything else. But I only followed him because I was like, how is this going to resolve itself? It was that. I think that was the part that I needed was how is this going to end? With the media beef, I don't think there's a how does it end question. It's just the back and forth that comes out of it. But if you give me something where I'm like, huh, I kind of got to know how that wraps up. Yep, I could probably stick around. That's why threads catch all. Not the site threads, but just the idea of threads.
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Van Lathan
Yeah, like, we are all like slaves to story. Speaking of the N word, we. We are like. We are. Story gets people, man. It's just like we are this big combination of all of these factors. We keep telling the same stories over and over every single generation. We always have a story for someone. You always have a story for what went right in your life and what went wrong in your life. And neither story is 100% accurate.
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Bomani Jones
Right.
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Van Lathan
You remember the people that helped you in a little bit grander of a way than they probably actually did. Sometimes you remember the people that harmed you in a little bit more sinister way than it probably was at the time. Because we are just used to telling ourselves story. This is. That was kind of the. The thing that I learned at TMZ more than anything else was that you could take a video of LeBron James when he doesn't talk to the TMZ camera guy and still make a post out of it. Because number one is LeBron. Number two, the watch is expensive. Number number two, the car is number three, the car is expensive. Like, what restaurant is he coming for? All of that stuff. Just the story of the presence of LeBron James life in that piece of video. Right. That is meaningful to people. Like, I started looking at, like, what people are interested in differently, and they just want to know. Like, people legitimately, they were just an inherent, curious species. Like, we just want to know. And so when you see two people arguing or fighting, what the fuck happened? If it resolves itself, cool. If it doesn't resolve itself, kind of even better. Because that means it's got a second act and a third act. This thing between fucking Whitlock and Stephen A. They gonna be. They're. They're older black men now. They're gonna be elderly black men doing this. Remember some years ago when there was two Canadian, like, hockey or football guys on the stage? Remember this?
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Bomani Jones
And they started scrapping and they.
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Van Lathan
They 70s. Like, I did as much work on that as I could at the time, and it's already jumped out of my mind is just who we are. The question now is that, like, how cynical do you want to be with your platform as far as indulging into that? Like, how. Because you could. You don't have to be smart. You don't have to be funny. You don't have to have observations. You don't have to be brave anymore. You just have to be willing to get super duper dirty and you'll. YouTube will pay you for the rest of your life.
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Bomani Jones
Yeah, look, people being wildly angry never stops being funny. But anybody it almost doesn't matter why. Anybody that feels on sight about somebody is gonna be hilarious, right? What you do is you try to get them and the way to make it really funny is you get them talking about it and then you try to change the subject and that's not gonna work right? And then you just. I got one more thing I wanna say about that right fast.
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Van Lathan
You know what else that nigga did?
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Bomani Jones
Yeah.
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Van Lathan
I even tell you about this. I tell you about this. No, no, no, no, no, no. We on it. Let's stay on it. I even tell you about this.
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Bomani Jones
Like you the one that brought it up.
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Van Lathan
Yeah.
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Bomani Jones
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Bomani Jones
See homedepot.com licensenumbers all right, we are back on the right time with Van Lathan. And I just played a sound of a snippet of some music for Van Lathan. And I'm going to tell you what that sound was that I just played. It is from a tweet that was just sent and somebody sent it to me and it has a video. And the caption on the video is, lines at ATL TSA so bad they brought out live entertainment. And so in the TSA line, that is a white woman in a black cocktail dress that. That got shinies on it, and she playing an electric fiddle to try to keep shit cool. Cause if the TSA lines at Atlanta they've been talking about, it's like three, four. I just told you that it'd be ready to scrap at the gate. You know how mad you gotta be in a fight at the airport. The only person I've ever seen fight at the airport is Pac Man Jones. And for what it's worth, I don't think he started it. But anyway, they got white. They got white girls in here playing music in line to try to keep everything cool. I went to the airport about 10 days ago. I left LaGuardia. I went to a midsize city. I was smooth on both ends, but I was over in the bougie lines at LaGuardia. Right?
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Van Lathan
Right.
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Bomani Jones
I was looking over there con Los Ordinarios, and the lines were getting a little longer. You could kind of tell, brother, I've been looking at these videos, man, if I got to get there four hours early, I don't even want to go. Like, I had a trip to take this week that turned into a train trip. Because I was like, brother, I ain't missing my flight on the. Imagine you wait three hours and you still don't get on.
- [29:52]
Van Lathan
You still don't get on the plane. It's tough. It's tough. It's always. Flying is always stressful enough. Like, you know, I fly now and I do the. The whole Delta one thing. It's actually a lovely experience, right? But then, like, this, this is how up? It's facts. It's, like, lovely. Like, Delta 1 is so great. And I'm not sponsored by Delta 1, but Delta 1 is so great. It actually makes me wonder, like, why I. Why anyone would fly private, right? Like, why anyone will follow this. It's very nice. But even when you go there now, they have to take you up and you have to do the other TSA line and all of that stuff.
- [30:26]
Bomani Jones
Oh, that's right. Because they got the Delta 1 line
- [30:28]
Van Lathan
because they got their own security, their own Delta One thing down there, right? So, like. But now they don't have that anymore, so you got to go somewhere else. I'm like, this political strife and unrest is really with my comfort.
- [30:39]
Bomani Jones
Oh, my God. This.
- [30:40]
Van Lathan
You.
- [30:40]
Bomani Jones
You 1 percented the out of this one, brother.
- [30:42]
Van Lathan
It's not true. I'm just telling people how I live now. This is an apartment. But I do fly Delta One, okay? So, like, come on, give me a break. So, look, this is what I'll say when I. When in my brain. My brain can only look at the tremendous amount of dysfunction when I see that. I think about the guys on the Titanic, that when the ship was sinking, that they were still trying to remember that they were still trying to play the violin. They were. Remember if you guys ever saw the movie Titanic, the ship is sinking. And as the ship is sinking, they're the guys. And what they're hired to do is their whole thing was to play move music on the Titanic. They played it in the dining hall. They played it, you know, out on the deck. People, will there be nice violin music and stuff like that? Well, the boat is actually sinking, and these guys are not going to be able to get on a life raft. So what they go, what they do is while this whole thing is going down, our one job is to continue to play this music. So we're actually going to play music to the sinking of the actual ship. While some people are going to lose their lives, we're going to give them a little bit of comfort while this entire dysfunctional thing plays out behind us. That's how I feel about that. And that's what we're doing in more cases than just that.
- [32:09]
Bomani Jones
We are. We are.
- [32:10]
Van Lathan
These tremendous societal problems get mainstreamed and mainlined. We are trying to flag football players versus NFL our way out of it. We're trying to. Drake versus Kendrick our way out of it.
- [32:23]
Bomani Jones
Content.
- [32:25]
Van Lathan
We're just looking for something to take our minds off the fact that it is actually happening. Guys, we're losing the whole fucking thing and we never really had it right. But the actual thing from the economic standpoint, from geopolitics, from just basic decency, by even not even decency, they were never decent. Just like they don't even lie about being decent anymore. The whole thing is turning, but we just have to concentrate on something else. So while people are waiting in that line and that woman is, she's doing the right thing. She's polishing the brass on the Titanic. It's all going down.
- [33:02]
Bomani Jones
Yeah. I do think that people underestimate like how dire the situation is. I want to put a pin in that though, because I have a thing about the TSA that I want to run by you and I want to see if you think anything similar to what I think about this. So Ryan just sent me this tweet is from NBC News and it's the call out rates at TSA for various airports. These are the ones that they listed. Houston hou. So Hobby 40.3, 40%, Hartsfield 37.4, Houston Intercontinental shout out to those of us who was there before. It was Bush 36.1, New Orleans 34.9, JFK 33.7, BWI 30.4, Pittsburgh 27.5, LaGuardia 20.3, Philadelphia 19.7 and Phoenix 19.3. The Houston, Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans is what jumps out to me. I as someone from Houston, I have been trying to find is there a science to where they do and do not call out at these airports? And I will tell you this about Houston. Houston is about money. And what it's really not about is not getting money showing up to work if there ain't no check. I'm surprised even 40% of the people showed up at this airport. Atlanta at 37, New Orleans at 35. It's just hard for me to ignore the fact that the top of this list is some black ass cities.
- [34:38]
Van Lathan
Brother, what the fuck?
- [34:40]
Bomani Jones
We we. And by the way, I don't know where I've been with TSA is not that TSA is typically pretty blacky black no matter where it is, but in those places, we ain't coming. Yeah, we are just letting you know right now, if it ain't no check, we ain't coming.
- [34:55]
Van Lathan
Tsc. TSA is so black that it's good for my self esteem. Because if I'm having a bad day and I gotta fly, I know I'm gonna get love when I go through tsa. When I'm going through tsa, I'm gonna get love, man. I always get Love for my people at tsa. Hey, man. Hey, bruh. I'm not gonna blow your shit up with that Kanye shit. I fuck with that. That. Put your hands up. Turn around. Okay, cool. Appreciate you. Keep doing your thing, man. I see you. See you next time. I always love and it's just interesting, right? Like all of these powerful people at the top and you gonna ask these people that's coming from. I don't know, man. The wards in Houston, South Baton Rouge, we ain't got no airport like that. But you know, the ninth Ward, New Orleans. All you're gonna ask these people to come to work and not get paid with no guarantee of when they are going to get paid. Bruh. Is parties to be had. Is is kicking it to be done. Is Madden to be played. Is books to be read. It's a lot of things to do. That's a better option than going to work at the airport if you not fucking making no money.
- [36:10]
Bomani Jones
I'd say it is a lot of. Apparently Delta is sick of this shit. Let me find this. This thing. So I just saw from the Atlanta reporter for Atlanta Journal Constitution. Congressional staff are not news. Congressional staff is not going to like. Delta is suspending its special congressional death service for members of Congress until the shutdown is over. Like, yo, man, we got to turn. They got to turn this back around on them. Like when I went to LaGuardia that day and the airport wasn't crazy, my thought was, oh, okay, because you just. New York can't stop. Then I looked up in New York has stopped. It looks like. Like, hey, man, the stakes too high to be playing that game up here. I thought, like, we want to find one way or another to make this shit happen.
- [36:48]
Van Lathan
I mean, the important what. What I try to do on higher learning, Rachel and I, is just let people know like why this is happening. We could fund TSA right now if we wanted to. Even some Senate Republicans. John Thune has indicated that he is okay with the deal that funds all of DHS except for ICE and cbp. So there actually is a deal on the table, something that the Democrats and some Senate Republicans have floated to the President. But the White House is dug in. They want to keep Congress there. They want to keep the fight about the SAVE act going and they don't want to have to give in to some of the reforms surrounding ICE that the Democrats want. These people could be getting paid. They could be getting paid. I think a lot of people saw kind of some of the things that happened in the last shutdown and they were like, okay, well, let's attempt to close portions of this so that during this particular time when the summer's coming, the spring is coming. It was already summer in la. The spring is coming. The summer is coming. People are about to start traveling. Spring break is coming. Let's not cause this type of gridlock in the nation's airports. But once again, everything is political. And these type of wars, the blood is going to be spilled by the average American. I mean, a lot of the people making these decisions are going to be able to opt for private planes. Not those congressmen that you're talking about, they broke too. Some of them, Some of them are doing tremendous amounts of insider trading and are way up. You know what? Let me not say they broke too. Make them seem like they us, they different, they making money, they selling books, they getting all kinds of crazy shit. But some of them aren't going to be as impacted by that as we will. We will. That are flying will be impacted, but more so the people that have to go work at the tsa, they will be impacted, but nobody gives a fuck about that. I got to watch more Brendan Shaw videos. I got to know what happened.
- [38:38]
Bomani Jones
When we gonna get our.
- [38:40]
Van Lathan
I'm stay on tsa, but I gotta, I gotta know what happened when Brendan Shaw went on the Joe Rogan experience just recently.
- [38:45]
Bomani Jones
Amen. It's coming close. April 5th is Resurrection Sunday. Will that be when we get our first full on Donnybrook Pier 6, A show of brouhaha at the airport. Like it's a matter of time before somebody starts scrapping it out. Like here's the thing about the line at the airport, man. People in that for a number of reasons, some of them come with great trauma, anxiety and people anxious anyway just about getting on planes. Right?
- [39:27]
Van Lathan
Yeah.
- [39:27]
Bomani Jones
Somebody gonna scrap it out in this at some point.
- [39:31]
Van Lathan
Yeah, it's. It happened and then would be funny. That would be. That. That's a funny idea right there. Yeah, of course. It's like, like it's just a heightened place. It's, it's, it's. We all know you're nervous to fly. You don't know what's going to happen at the airport. The airport itself is a target. All of the security exists because of all of this trauma that we have from witness some of the things that have happened in the past. Airport, there's still this post 911 haze that exists even though that's like, like almost 30 years ago at this point. So it's like this. It's just like it's travel itself is a stressful thing. And to add so much stress to everybody's lives is a. It's a, it's a cruel thing to do. But I do think that you're right, this is going to spill over somewhere. I guess the question for you is based upon a lot of the statistics, information that you have. Which city is gonna be the city that breaks out into this donnybrook? Where do you think is gonna happen? Is it New Orleans? Is it Atlanta? Is it someplace we don't think right? Like, where is it gonna happen?
- [40:30]
Bomani Jones
I think the fact that Atlanta is the first city that to my knowledge has brought out street performers. It implies to me that someone has recognized that the tension has built in such a way that we need to see start smoothing this situation out. Like what we need to figure out is the city where the airport has a greater collision of walks of life. Right. Because that's the thing about Atlanta. Atlanta got a lot of walks of life going through that. Ooh. I don't know what the situation currently is in Las Vegas, but it's a little bit of everybody in Las Vegas. And while Las Vegas is down, that means that you can get a deal which changes who the demographics are that are in this line in Las Vegas. And high percentage of people that have never been on a plane before, perhaps you understand what I'm saying.
- [41:25]
Van Lathan
Also people who are fucking drunk and are coming right to the plane after fucking going crazy. You see that in Vegas all the time.
- [41:33]
Bomani Jones
Boy, that's losing all their money.
- [41:35]
Van Lathan
Vegas used to be a house of horrors.
- [41:38]
Bomani Jones
It could be anything. It could be anything.
- [41:40]
Van Lathan
And then there's people gambling in there. So you might have lost some bread and then went to wait on the long ass line and had a little liquor in you. Vegas is probably the answer.
- [41:52]
Bomani Jones
Yeah, yeah, a lot. There's, there's great room for bad things to happen at the gate in Vegas. Um, I remember I flew out of Intercontinental a bush in Houston. Me and my mama flew out of there last year. And so the thing about having all the airport hacks is you forget that not everybody has them. So I'm at the airport with my then 81 year old mother and I'm showing up on the hack schedule and then I look at her and I'm like, do you have a boarding pass? And she says no, because she does not. She does not traffic in the world of technology in the ways that we do. So it's a little bit tight. You know, we got to go in, we got to print you know, print the board and pass. Yeah, we get all that stuff. And then I remember that we are in the line, you know, so we get in the regular line, and I go with her, and I put her stuff down. And then I showed the woman my boarding pass, and she says to me, well, you know, you could have gone the other line. I'm like, yeah, but I hear my mom. She's like, wow, you're a good son. I'm like, do you think that I was just going to go through the
- [42:49]
Van Lathan
other line and let your mom go through? What the.
- [42:52]
Bomani Jones
Can you imagine if somebody saw me do that? And that wound up on the Internet about how Bodi left his mama to go through that or whatever it was. But I always knew, though, that as that went, my mama looks good for her age. But I could always pull that card if it came doing. I can we get a wheelchair, right? Like, can we get those things? But we got it done because she don't move as fast as she used to. So I did a walk with her. I got her to her gate. You know, I did all of those things. But imagine being in a similar situation now and you're not with your older mother and you trying to get through, and this shit just goes slow. You know what I'm saying?
- [43:30]
Van Lathan
Like, it's tight now. I got to say something. The video that you just described, bro, I will watch that bitch. This will be the headline. It will say, bomani Jones abandoned and abandons would be in caps.
- [43:45]
Bomani Jones
Yes.
- [43:46]
Van Lathan
Abandons would be in all caps. Bomani Jones abandons mother in airport. Lives the cozy life while she stands in line. And then some sister would come on, probably, like, with a septum ring. Some sister would come on and she would go, I always knew this nigga. And it would be a picture of you was trash.
- [44:06]
Bomani Jones
Yes.
- [44:07]
Van Lathan
And I'll. And I. I will watch the whole video, and then I would just send it to you like, Bo, they talking. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm talking about. That's funny. That's the type of shit that's funny. But you thought about it. You didn't do it. Look, I don't know how this is.
- [44:18]
Bomani Jones
I know. I did not think about it. I did not think about it. Oh, let me. Let me. Let me. Let me go ahead and get in here right now. And I ain't gonna lie. Literally every other one of you, I had a left. And I say that because my daddy don't fly no more.
- [44:36]
Van Lathan
Right?
- [44:37]
Bomani Jones
Every other one of you, I Would have seen you on the other side.
- [44:42]
Van Lathan
Yeah, I wouldn't have that problem with my father right now. That's not a concern. But it's okay. Dark humor. Everybody just laugh. But, but, but, yeah. Look, man, I don't know how this shit is going to play out, but I know it's going to last for a lot longer. And now you. You didn't fuck with my brain so, so, so bad. I'm going to be like scanning the. They actually kind of was an incident. I feel like this was in San Francisco, but, you know, now they've kind of ratcheted things up by putting ice. Making ice. The tsa.
- [45:10]
Bomani Jones
Hey, I don't. I don't think that's a good idea, guys.
- [45:13]
Van Lathan
No. One day we'll look on the fucking. It'll be like 12 dead. Like so. So, I mean now, I mean, here's my question.
- [45:19]
Bomani Jones
What are they doing? Are they checking IDs? Like, what are they doing?
- [45:22]
Van Lathan
I have no clue, bro. I wouldn't. I legitimately, when I say this, I legitimately, legitimately would not trust the ICE agents to walk my dog. And that's. I wouldn't. They will kill the dog. The dog will bark, they will execute the dog. They kick the dogs, they do all kinds of crazy. I would not ice. I saw a sister and I don't know. You can't be masked in the airport, I guess. I guess the ICE agents that are in the airport are. They can't have a mask on. I don't think they. That, that it's the same because some of the ones I've seen in the airport, they don't have masks on. You are fucking brave. I see you and you a ICE agent. Like I'm a remember you, homie. I don't know how, I don't know when. I don't know how we gonna do it. But you. That is. Woo. That's like being the parking attendant people.
- [46:18]
Bomani Jones
Yo. Can you imagine having a job where you gotta hide your face? You, Ross Simmons and Butch Reed. You know what I'm saying? Like, and with them, everybody knew who it was, these cats. Like, maybe you, maybe you think you getting by, right? But you dang. And America love law enforcement.
- [46:36]
Van Lathan
Yeah, they normally. But like in this situation, they're kind of like a mascot for everything that's going wrong, you know?
- [46:41]
Bomani Jones
You know what?
- [46:42]
Van Lathan
Now that I think about it, I. In all my time in LA la, the parking is so bad that the parking attendant people are like a unique. A unique group of people that are kind of reviled out here. I don't know if these people are real. I've never known anyone that did that job. I never just like was hooping with somebody and like, hey man, what you do? So, yeah, I'm the, I'm the, I'm the parking enforcement people. I've just never, I've never, I've been out here 20 years. That's never happened. These people, robots, like, are they what? I've never. This just occurred to me. I've never in LA met someone or been around someone, every other position that is available. I've known people work at the different car washes out here.
- [47:23]
Bomani Jones
What about the dog catcher?
- [47:26]
Van Lathan
I knew a guy I hooped with a guy who, it was so funny that he went from being a postman to working with the animal people.
- [47:36]
Bomani Jones
He was, he was working with the dog catching.
- [47:38]
Van Lathan
Yeah, he, no, he went, he went from. Yeah, he was, he went from being a postman because it's, it was very funny. He went from being a postman, he was a, a letter carrier. He had been in the military. He went from being a postman and then he, he would became a part of like the, the dog catcher people here, out here, the, the animal control. He. Animal control. He was a part of animal control. We used to always make fun of him. So I at least knew one of those guys. He's dead now. I at least knew one of those guys in 20 years and in 20 years in LA, I've never known someone that's like, yeah, I'm the parking attendant people. I wonder if those people are actually real. Yeah.
- [48:13]
Bomani Jones
Nah. Airport. The day is coming. I got one last thing I want to ask you.
- [48:18]
Van Lathan
I'm not sure if that exists.
- [48:19]
Bomani Jones
And I'm going to do this for the people who listen to this show and have listened to this show for a while and know people who are part of this show who are family of sorts and we pub it up. But a lot of people who don't know this van is the co host of the Ring of Tailgate and one of his co hosts is our favorite hater, Joel Anderson. And so we were just kind of wondering like, what's it been like for you to work with our good friend Joel, whom I love by the way. He helped me do an edit on an article I just wrote.
- [48:47]
Van Lathan
So Joel is to me, and it's not going to stay this way if I have any say. Joe to me is the best kept secret in this industry, period. He's the best kept secret in this industry. I had no idea I was on the. I was on a pod with Bill maybe like two or three years ago, and me and Joel were podding with Bill, and all of a sudden, Joel just started hating on LSU for no reason. Like, for no reason. Like, hey, just let you know LSU ain't. And really, the what's happened at LSU has been just recent. Before then he's like, LSU is basically Texas Tech with a good run. I'm on the podcast. I'm like, yo, is this talking to me? Because, like. Because. Because, like, is. I was such. I'm a. Like, I love Slow Burn. I'm. I say loved. I love it. I still listen to Slow Burn. It's such great work, right? It's such a big fan. Fan of Joel. Anderson used to hit Joel up and all of that stuff to tell him what a big fan of Slow Burn I was. This is back in the day me and Joel first got cool because I was listening to what he was doing at Slate on the. Like, just on my walks and stuff like that. He did one about Edward, not Edward Ners. He did one by David Duke. A lot of people from that I know from Louisiana are involved in that story and stuff like that going way back. So been a big fan for a long time. When he did that, I was like, first of all, I was. I felt played as fuck that he did that. On Bill's podcast, I just felt super played. Like, what is this nigga? Like, trying to get me out of my character? Then I came to love it so much because he is so unpredictable. Except for one thing. Whatever you love, he will assassinate. It does not matter what that thing is. Whatever it is that you love. Like, I could say, man, I went to this place and I had the best fucking burgers ever. Joel's gonna be like, man, them burgers small, they suck. And the cheese don't taste like it's real. Whatever you love, Joel will hate on it. And once you know that, it is just endless comedy on Tailgate. It's just endless comedy. Bo. Bo. He doesn't know how to, like, ignore a slight. Like, whatever anyone says. If you are the 50th person in the comments, you have legitimately 12 numbers next to your name. Claude. 8156-571231-95251. And you say Joel was off on this episode, there is going to be a reply. Shut your whole ass up. It is fucking amazing, and I've never seen anything like it. Between that and everything and this just weird comic timing, Joel makes Tailgate. I Lobbied and lobbied and lobbied and lobbied for us to do the pod. We all put it together. Joe like all that stuff, but it's become essentially, essentially his podcast. It's a complete vehicle for everything that he does well. Yo.
- [51:51]
Bomani Jones
At once, Joel claims that I am responsible for this narrative of him being a hater. Joel sat up in this podcast and told me that Bun B. Needed to stop hanging out with me and start hanging out with him because he could not be friends with us both. Okay, okay. But I created this narrative. I have heard this man say word for word. I am motivated by. By spite. His wife once posted on the Internet the text exchange where Joel got a new job and immediately was like, I wish my old. I wonder what my old boss is gonna think. He sees this.
- [52:37]
Van Lathan
What the F, bro?
- [52:39]
Bomani Jones
He is powered by spite.
- [52:42]
Van Lathan
So my favorite Joel clip ever is when, for some reason does the Twitter handle Reddit? I got. Let me.
- [52:51]
Bomani Jones
Okay, is it rated cfb?
- [52:57]
Van Lathan
So Reddit CFP said something about Joe. I don't remember what they said as Joe. And so we're so. Me and Tate and Billy, we're. We're like. We're picking at Joe about it, and you guys go watch the clip. And Joe goes, that's the type of. That's the type of ho shit that Reddit CFP is on. And then he went, that's the type of ho shit that y' all support. I looked, I'm like, yo, bro, this not acting. This is really. Now he gets back, and he got back real quick.
- [53:39]
Bomani Jones
He's mad.
- [53:41]
Van Lathan
It's in his face. And then all of a sudden, he just gets back and he's laughing with us. But for that moment that those feelings. I'm actually sweating. Those feelings were 1,000% genuine, man. Like, bruh, like, I hit Bill. I'm like, bro, this podcast gonna work. Like, this guy is something else. Like this, like, this pod between me, Tate, and Joel, we're having so much fun. But Joel is different. Not only that, but just like the lore. Fastest 10 year old ever in Texas, right?
- [54:12]
Bomani Jones
I invented razor in America.
- [54:14]
Van Lathan
In America. Fastest 10 year old in America. Like, I invented Raise the Roof. All of this lore. I ran for 220 yards on 13 carries against. And he was really nice. When he was in high school, he was just like, super nice. But it's just all of this stuff is fun. I'm having a lot of fun. And he is. And he's also like, obviously incredibly talented writer, super smart. All of that. I don't give a fuck about none of that. He's just like. He's just. He's just the funniest guy that I think that I've ever hosted a show with.
- [54:42]
Bomani Jones
I just. I just needed you to share all of this as it is gone with him. Because you told me the Reddit CFP story, and I was like, yep, you. You guys. You guys are. You guys. See, the difference with you and me is I'll really be messing with Joe. I do, kind of. Because I'm like, I don't know where this might go, right, Y'.
- [55:01]
Van Lathan
All.
- [55:01]
Bomani Jones
Y' all be messing with Joel. And it's also funny to me as I watch my buddy Billy. When Billy started working on that show, those. Billy Gill used to work with Levitar. And when Billy started working on the show, I was like, bless your heart. Dealing with Joel, it's like, what do you mean? I'm like, no, I love Joel. But then I came back later, was
- [55:15]
Van Lathan
like, I told you. Yeah, he told me a story. Like, I didn't realize how tight you guys were. He told me. He told me, you know, some. Some of y' all greatest hits. Some of. Some stuff that y', all, you know. Although he told me the live show story. He told me.
- [55:29]
Bomani Jones
Oh, my God, that was amazing.
- [55:31]
Van Lathan
Yeah, he told me, like, so, you know. But that's my guy, man. And him and Billy's dynamic is really funny, too. Billy is another guy. Billy is, like, super fucking funny for whatever.
- [55:41]
Bomani Jones
Yes, he's hilarious.
- [55:42]
Van Lathan
Yeah, Billy's fucking funny. So we having a lot of fun.
- [55:44]
Bomani Jones
Billy is one of those. Billy is not monotone, but Billy uses the same voice for everything, which adds
- [55:50]
Van Lathan
to the funny and only changes his facial expressions.
- [55:54]
Bomani Jones
Yes.
- [55:55]
Van Lathan
Same voice, but only. He'll go, yeah. So the thing is. And he's using the same voice, but his face is changing. And that's hilarious for some reason. It's very funny.
- [56:05]
Bomani Jones
I have a content idea for you. I don't know if you've thought about it. I don't know if you can get the people to go along with it. You know, Billy's fast, too. Billy won the race against the Freeze in Atlanta. Oh, no. Billy's a D1 athlete.
- [56:21]
Van Lathan
Oh, yeah. He was a long jumper. Oh, pole vulture.
- [56:23]
Bomani Jones
Yeah. Yeah. Billy's a D1 athlete. Joel say he fast.
- [56:28]
Van Lathan
Oh, shit. Bo. If you. You know what? Here's the thing. If you call the race, I'll do it. If you call the race, I'll do it. If you call. If we can do a crossover. If you call the race, I'll do It. Cause if I.
- [56:43]
Bomani Jones
We'll need to find a way to, like, recruit, like, record promos and script this up, I think that we could. We could have the ring or tailgate field day with the right time. And I just want to see them two dudes race against each other.
- [56:54]
Van Lathan
You know what's interesting is I think that. So what I always wanted to do, I always wanted to have, like, a regular guys combine, because one of the funniest things I know, you know, we almost out of time, but I just got to say this. One of the funniest things is that if you go on your Twitter right now, you right now with all the followers you got, right? If you go on your Twitter right now and you just go, yo, what could y' all run into? 40. Oh, God, listen to the ridiculousness. That will come back to you.
- [57:23]
Bomani Jones
Four, seven.
- [57:24]
Van Lathan
Well, right now I think I could probably four six, Four, seven, something like that. Four, five. If I'm really in shape and I'll just be. I'll be under this. I'd be like, hey, just to let you know, like, four or five is flying, right? Okay. Like. Like you're. You're on a spaceship. If you run a four, five, that's like, for. For us. You don't know, like, four or five is. Is flying in the 40. The. Nah, man. But I was pretty fast, bro. I was pretty fast. Probably fast one my family for show, you know? So I always wanted to do just like a regular guys combine, where we have guys sign waivers. They could be guys at the gym, whatever. We do the 40. We do different shit all the night, and just. And then we just grant. We make. We crown a regular guy combine champion. And at this event, we do the crossover event. This could be one of the events. Could be the Joel vs Billy race. Now, this might ruin tailgate, right? Because if Billy loses, no big deal. If Joel loses, this will be the biggest deal of anything that's ever happened on the ringer. Like, this will be different fucking narratives about this forever. But I would love to do that.
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Bomani Jones
Let's figure it out. Let's figure it out. Van Lathan, check him out on the ringer tailgate. Check him out on higher learning. Check them out everywhere. My brother, I appreciate you always, man.
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Van Lathan
Appreciate you both.
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Bomani Jones
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