Brissett Dumps Dallas, Kyler’s Future, and Week 10 Waivers

Summary

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Episode Title: Brissett Dumps Dallas, Kyler’s Future, and Week 10 Waivers
Date: November 4, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck

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Overview

This episode covers Week 10 fantasy football waiver wire advice, the fallout from the surprising Cardinals-Cowboys Monday Night Football game, and a wild assortment of listener emails. The hosts, Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck, dissect the ramifications of Jacoby Brissett quarterbacks the Cardinals’ dominant win over Dallas, speculate about Kyler Murray’s future, and debate the fantasy value of various running backs and wide receivers in the wake of NFL injuries and trade rumors. Lively tangents, trivia battles, and absurd listener breakfasts add levity and camaraderie throughout the episode.

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Main Segments

1. The Cardinals' Shocking Win Over Dallas (02:10–15:50)

TV Woes and “Irrelevant” Monday Night Game (02:10–05:11)

• The hosts joke about struggles to access the game due to the YouTube TV/ESPN dispute and their failed attempts to use cable or pirate streams.
  • “So I was. I had to stream the stupid game illegally because I guess I’m 100 years old.” – Craig [03:12]
• General consensus: If you missed the game, it wasn’t a big deal—Cardinals soundly beat a lackluster Cowboys team.

Inside the Game (05:12–15:50)

• Dallas Presentation: The Cowboys’ defense can’t stop the run, can’t pressure QBs, and the offense needs to be perfect but keeps making mistakes.
  • “They can’t stop the run, they can’t pressure the quarterback, they can’t cover, and they can’t tackle. That’s most of defense.” – Heifetz [07:36]
• Stephen A. Smith Meme Moment: Leaves after a Cowboys turnover, referencing the Spongebob "I'mma head out" gif.
• Jerry Jones Trade Speculation: Hints at trades; jokes about “trading for Kyler Murray.” The crew doubts any move will save the Dallas season.

Kyler Murray’s Future & The Brissett Effect (08:00–15:45)

• The team discusses how Brissett is a better fit than Kyler Murray for Arizona right now.
• Joe Buck & Aikman's on-air speculation: maybe Kyler should be "shadow benched."
  • “At the end of the day, the way Brissett is playing, it doesn’t really make sense for them to try and go back to Kyler right now.” – Danny Kelly [08:12]
• Stat highlight: Trey McBride is posting Kelsey/Gonzalez-level production with Brissett.
  • “McBride now has, I think, four touchdowns with Brissett in like, five games. And in like 20 or 30 games with Kyler Murray, he had like, three.” – Kelly [09:18]
• The hosts are pessimistic about Kyler’s long-term NFL future due to size, health, and intangibles questions.
  • “I don’t think [Kyler]’s going to age well at all in the NFL.” – Craig [11:41]

Cardinals Shout-outs

• Praise for Arizona’s youth and Calais Campbell’s ageless performance.
  • “Legend… Calais Campbell is literally the oldest defender in the NFL and he genuinely could have retired before COVID and had a long NFL career…” – Heifetz [15:05]
• Memorable banter about mic’d-up trash talk (“Javonte’s ass!”), broadcast parabolic mics, and in-game moments.

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2. Fantasy Waiver Wire – Prioritizing Week 10 Claims (17:09–53:39)

Context & Caveats (17:12–20:41)

• Review your trade deadline!
• Adjust strategies based on the NFL trade deadline’s impact.

Running Back Discussion (18:29–31:22)

The Dilemma

• “Yucky, yucky… This is the nastiest week at running back.” – Craig [18:42]
• No clear plug-and-play RB exists for Week 10 amid injuries and uncertain starter statuses.

Top RB Waiver Picks (Consensus with Timestamps)

• Tank Bigsby (Eagles) – High-upside stash, gets the nod if Saquon Barkley remains hurt [18:48-25:51].
  • “If Saquon gets re-injured…you have tripped into a top 15 running back every week Saquon’s out.” – Heifetz [21:13]
• Other Contenders: Blake Corum (Rams), Terrell Jennings (Patriots), Devin Singletary (Giants), Brian Robinson (Niners), Dylan Sampson (Browns), etc.
• Kyle Monungai (Bears): If somehow available, he’s the clear priority add.

Process & Rationale

• Stash potential > short-term RB “whack-a-mole.”
• More discussion than clarity—hosts play a trivia “showdown” to decide (Bigsby wins).

Wide Receiver Waivers (31:24–38:42)

• Parker Washington (Jaguars): Top pick due to volume, injuries ahead of him on the depth chart (19 targets in two games).
  • “Parker Washington has 19 targets in his last two games.” – Craig [36:46]
• Alec Pierce (Colts): High floor, but plays in Germany and has a Week 11 bye.
• Christian Watson (Packers): Upside stash; team is injury-riddled but faces tough Philly matchup.
• Others: Tori Horton (Seahawks, if Cooper Kupp out), Trey Tucker (Raiders, if Myers traded).

Tight End Waivers (50:01–65:41)

• Harold Fannin Jr. (Browns): Top choice due to volume/upside and chance to jump in if Njoku is traded [52:08-53:08].
• Colston Loveland (Bears): Big stats, may revert if Kmet returns, but strong rookie.
• Isaiah Likely (Ravens): Reliable, more proven than exciting rookie/lottery options.
• Luke Musgrave (Packers): Massive boom-bust; could explode, could disappear.

Quarterbacks & DSTs (66:27–71:03)

• QB Streaming:
  • Marcus Mariota (Commanders) if you need a safe floor.
  • Sam Darnold (Vikings), Justin Fields/Tyrod Taylor (Jets), Joe Flacco (Bengals, on bye).
• DST Streaming:
  • Seattle (surprisingly available), Cleveland, Buffalo (vs. Miami), Baltimore (vs. Minnesota).

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3. Listener Interactions: Emails, Trivia, and Absurd Breakfasts

Memorable Email/Breakfast Bits

• Listeners send in wild breakfasts: one with protein coffee shake, another with “24oz sugar-free Monster Energy and a non-alcoholic IPA with sausage and pizza” [54:10].
• “That’s kind of wild… an athletic na beer for breakfast is deranged.” – Craig [65:41]
• Socks Debate: Heated, hilarious debate about sock-pants order and matching protocols [71:10–79:56].
  • Includes a style intervention from listener Gabriel, and detailed recommendations for sock brands (Stance) and fun patterns.
• “I think Heifetz’s sock rules meltdown is perhaps the most unhinged crash out in the history of the show.” – Gabriel email [75:09]
• Listener confessions: A 1990s story of a man who unknowingly dated his stepfather’s ex-wife, told for the first time publicly and met with a mix of awe and laughter [81:14-88:40].

On-air Trivia & Banter (Throughout)

• Showdowns for waiver priority picks, using outlandish listener-submitted trivia (e.g., "How hot is the tip of a burning cigar?" Answer: ~1,600°F, to everyone’s disbelief) [39:31–46:14].
• Warm, self-deprecating humor, playful teasing about age, TV shows, and generational divides.

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4. Recommendations & Pop Culture Tangents

• Craig plugs a new “Rewatchables” podcast episode with Glenn Powell discussing "The Truman Show" (89:09).
  • “Not even a shameless plug. When I asked how it went, you said best celeb guest we’ve ever had.” – Heifetz [89:21]
• Extended riff on wedding songs (Natasha Bedingfield’s "Unwritten" as top white people wedding song) and Instagram likes [91:06–94:39].
• Good-natured ribbing over which hosts or producers follow or like photos of celebrities.

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Notable Quotes

• “When the athleticism starts to go, you’re just taking stuff away from the offense without the otherworldly creation ability.” – Heifetz on Kyler [11:30]
• "If you have Tank Bigsby on your roster, you may win your league." – Heifetz [28:46]
• “Parker Washington has 19 targets in his last two games.” – Craig [36:46]
• “I can’t believe that I think… Parker Washington’s the best receiver on the Jaguars.” – Heifetz [47:11]
• “Fun socks are also a great conversation starter. And we know Heifetz loves conversation, so go nuts.” – Gabriel, listener email [76:18]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:10–15:50: Cardinals vs. Cowboys breakdown, Kyler’s uncertain future, youth and aging defenders
• 17:09–31:22: RB waiver debate – Bigsby, Corum, more; trivia showdowns
• 31:24–38:42: WR waiver options, multidirectional debate (Washington, Pierce, Watson)
• 50:01–65:41: TE waiver stashes, rookie upside vs. proven floor
• 66:27–71:03: QB and DST streaming—Mariota, Darnold, Seattle, Browns, more
• 71:10–79:56: Listener emails – socks debate, breakfast oddities, style intervention
• 81:14–88:40: Wild email—hookups from the 1990s with an “affinity connection”
• 89:09–94:39: Rewatchables plug, social media likes, playful show ending banter

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Tone & Style

• The show maintains a signature blend of sharp fantasy football insight, rapid-fire debate, irreverent humor, and listener participation. The language is casual, riff-heavy, sometimes explicit, and full of the hosts’ personalities. Listener emails are a key part of the show’s rapport and comic relief.

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Takeaways

• Waivers: Focus on RBs with clear upside if starters re-injure or are traded, stash for value. Parker Washington is a top WR add with current target volume. Tight end landscape is flush with rookie options but high variance.
• Kyler Murray: The Murray era in Arizona may be ending—“shadow benched” for Brissett, who is unlocking weapons like McBride.
• Cowboys: Dallas looks listless and in need of major defensive help; offense needs perfection to win.
• Listener Culture: Participatory, playful – “breakfast club” for grownups, strange trivia, and audience confessionals.
• General Vibe: If fantasy waivers are rough, at least you can laugh at sock panic and breakfast pizza for breakfast.

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This episode is packed with practical waiver claim advice, irreverent humor, and lively group dynamics—a must-listen for fantasy footballers who don’t take themselves (or their weekends) too seriously.

Transcript

[Danny Heifetz]

Foreign welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football show. My name is Danny Hyffit. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korobeck and we are going over all the players you should add after week nine. Entering week 10, we're also going to go over this really weird Cardinals Cowboys game. And also at the end, we got some crazy emails. I'm not they're worth it. One guy named Luke has the most psychotic breakfast in the short history of breakfast on this show. I'm pretty concerned for his health. Right, dk?

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, it's the best and the worst possible.

[Craig Korobeck]

We also have a man whose sexual exploits are so crazy that we couldn't even read his name.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. We redacted someone who really wanted their name Red.

[Danny Kelly]

That is a hook right there. I love that.

[Craig Korobeck]

So, well, we've got a great show for you tonight. Natasha Bedingfield is here. So stick around. We'll be right back.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wait, hold on. Wait.

[Craig Korobeck]

While you're doing my voice is correct?

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no, keep it. While you're doing the SNL thing, will you do the guy's voice, the intro voice guy that you're actually really good at. It turns out.

[Craig Korobeck]

Kristen Wiig, Bill Hader.

[Danny Heifetz]

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[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. Can I admit something embarrassing? So I have YouTube TV. I'm a paying customer. There's a dispute between YouTube and Disney over carriage fees. So you couldn't watch the game. My building has cable.

[Danny Kelly]

Just grandfather did.

[Craig Korobeck]

I couldn't figure out how to get it to work. Oh, couldn't figure it out.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wait, what do you mean your building has cable?

[Craig Korobeck]

Like, my apartment building offers cable for free? Yes, for free. Basic cable.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you have, like, a cable outlet in the wall somewhere that you plug a cable, actual cable into and then into your tv?

[Craig Korobeck]

I've been in my apartment for over two years. When we first got in, there was cable and we used it until we got YouTube TV set up. And then since then, I've only used YouTube TV.

[Danny Heifetz]

But it was free or you were paying for it and they just have the hookup for cable.

[Craig Korobeck]

What are you talking. It's free. Basic cable's free, provided by, like, the HOA or it's like. It's like a part of the package of getting the apartment. But anyway, the whole point is, is that, like, there's three remotes. I have like an Apple TV remote, I have a Samsung remote, and then I have the spectrum remote. I couldn't figure it out. So I was. I had to stream the stupid game illegally because I guess I'm 100 years old. So I was off the grid on some illegal site.

[Danny Heifetz]

I had the same thing. I had. I had a certain kind of site up. Then it crashed. So I decided to pay the. It was five bucks for, like, Sling TV day pass. DK set. DK sent that. I was like, what a boomer gonna pay for this? And then I decided I can't get cable.

[Danny Kelly]

What a boomer.

[Craig Korobeck]

I know.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then I was like. So then I started. Pulled that up on my laptop and I, for whatever reason, now, with the update to Mac, instead of just back in my day, put HDMI to hdmi. Just extend this display. It wanted to airplay the audio, but even though the thing was extended, it. It took me. I missed the entire. Where the Cowboys went through. The Cardinals drive like knife through butter. I couldn't hear or see it at the same time, either hearing the plays or, like, watching, but I couldn't hear anything. And the whole time I'm just, like, fucking mad at airplay, trying to get this game going. And I also felt like an idiot.

[Craig Korobeck]

I gotta say, it was good. It was nice timing, because I would probably say this was the one of the more irrelevant Monday night Football games to watch, where it doesn't really matter if nobody had access to this game because it was Cardinals Cowboys, and for most of the game, the Cardinals just kicked the shit out of Dallas. There was a moment there where it felt like Dallas was kind of building some momentum, right? A brutal Javante Williams fumble. Dak got sacked a bunch of times and this game never was even within 10 points.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Javante fumble was brutal, mostly because whoever stripped the ball from him or recovered it then said really clearly on the microphone, javante's ass. And they said it like three times.

[Craig Korobeck]

I did hear that. I got to say, the microphone guy was cooking today. He was all over the place. I was catching everything. He was pointing that thing at everybody.

[Danny Kelly]

The parabolic, like the. The giant.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, the. Like the laser beam of sound that he's just pointing at people. He was crushing it because I was hearing things. Picked up left and right.

[Danny Kelly]

He was on his aame the other.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, also, frankly, the most entertaining part of the beginning of the game was that Stephen A. Smith was sitting next to Jerry Jones and did the real life spongebob. All right, I'mma head out. When the Cowboys turn the ball over in the beginning of the game and he just got up and left.

[Craig Korobeck]

Also speaking of that. So Jerry Jones announced that they've already agreed upon a trade and maybe two.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe one or two more. Craig?

[Danny Heifetz]

I think. Well, I think what happens, I assume, is that basically they wait. Like sometimes instead of just calling us on Tuesday, they'll agree to it. And they're like, all right, if no one involved gets hurt or whatever. But you're not supposed to say it. But he clearly is worried that people will stop paying attention to Dallas because he's talking again. This episode is brought to you by Whole Foods Market. At Whole Foods Market, you'll find great everyday prices for this Thanksgiving. Check out their 365 brand. Nope. Antibiotics ever. Turkey start at 149 a pound with Prime. With organic birds at $2.99 a pound, you'll find Thanksgiving essentials like condensed soups. I love those. Instant mashed potatoes. Like those too. Organic baking spices. Plus low prices on everything else you need, from fresh produce to frozen appetizers. Enjoy. So many ways to save on your Thanksgiving spread at Whole Foods Market terms apply.

[Craig Korobeck]

What do you guys think the trade is? Do you want to guess right now?

[Danny Heifetz]

I. They're probably going to trade for Kyler Murray because he's available.

[Danny Kelly]

It's probably a pass rusher. He said. He said something along the lines of, it's going to help us where we really need a lot of help, which is because they traded away their best player.

[Craig Korobeck]

Which is funny because Jerry Jones is also quoted this year saying, no one player is going to Change our team.

[Danny Heifetz]

It'd be funny if they said Aikman.

[Danny Kelly]

Was like, I think. I think that he should call. I think Jerry Jones should call the other team back and cancel it because one player is not going to make a big enough difference.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, damn, be funny if it was two first and Kenny Clark for Michael Parsons. You know, I wonder if they could pull that off. I know the Troy Aikman thing, he really. I love Troy when he just destroys the Cowboys. It's really funny. I mean, Dallas, we don't have to spend that much time on them. They can't stop the run on defense. They can't pressure the quarterback. They can't cover and they can't tackle. That's most of defense. And then the offense has to be perfect. And they come out today and they have two turnovers and downs. They have two different fumbles. They have two different. The fir. The first, again, the first drive was awesome. And they somehow didn't score. Then they have the next two drives, somehow both end on third and 17. And then they quietly have Brandon Aubrey try to tie the field goal record that is like 26 hours old. And then the first half was over.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And so when they're not perfect, like, they come out and look like this. And so I. I think the way more interesting part is dk. I'm surprised, actually, how mainstream it has now become with. I mean, I. Credit to Joe Buck and Troy talking about it all. This whole second half of the Cardinals kind of seem like they are going to bench Kyler Murray for Jacob.

[Danny Kelly]

Bench soft.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Shadow bench.

[Danny Kelly]

Pretend he's still hurt probably. No, I mean, Aikman was actually saying it as the game was ending. He's like, I don't think they can go back to Keller Murray at this point. I. I think they shouldn't, and I don't think they will. And that's. Yeah, that's a pretty strong statement, maybe. And obviously he spent time with the team this week. Maybe he got some sort of inside information on that. But, I mean, at the end of the day, the way that Brissette is playing, it doesn't really make sense for them to try and go back to Kyler right now. And it can just, like extend this rehab a little bit longer and see how it goes. Keep riding Brissette as long as he's playing well. And he played really well in this game. Their offense is so different when he's back there. Like, he can pass from the pocket. He converted a couple really long third downs. You know, he's he's unlocked Trey McBride in the red zone, which is something that's been a huge problem for Kyler Murray his whole career. I think I saw, I don't know what the status exactly, but he had. McBride now has, I think, four or three touchdowns.

[Danny Heifetz]

I took a, I took a photo of it because I thought it was amazing.

[Danny Kelly]

What was it?

[Danny Heifetz]

It was Cherry McBride. It's 10 straight games with five catches, which the only other tight ends to ever do that are just Tony Gonzalez and Travis Kelsey.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, the thing I was going to talk about was the touchdowns thing. He has, like, four touchdowns with Brissette in like, five games. And in, in like 20 or 30 games with Kyler Murray, he had like, three.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, he famously had, what, one last year.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Similarly, I, I, I, Marvin Harrison Jr. Is one catch shy of his career high in a game like three minutes into the second.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, and that's, that's another thing, too. That's what I was talking to you guys about, I think, a couple weeks ago is just like, Kyler is not a good fit for the type of receiver that Marvin Harrison is and Brissette.

[Craig Korobeck]

Is, because he can fit almost anywhere.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. So I don't know. I really don't know what they do here. Obviously, you know, Kyler has a huge, huge contract, but that hasn't, you know, necessarily stopped teams from moving on from the first place.

[Danny Heifetz]

It doesn't matter. It's just if he's good or not. And the reality is, Kyler said during the season, my knee is as healthy as it'll be, and now he's missing time. I, I just think that this is what happens with shorter guys when, like, you have. Again, I don't keep harping on this, but I feel a little more vindicated when tua literally says:2 weeks ago, I can't see over my offensive line, and he's six foot one, and it's like, we never talk about six foot one, but this guy's six foot one and down. It's harder to see the middle.

[Danny Kelly]

He doesn't play on time.

[Danny Heifetz]

So you have, you have to have superpowers to account for the fact of what DK just said, that the rhythm of plays, it's like if you're not, you become functionally, like, you become Kevin James and Hitch, where it's like, you have to stay in your strike zone. You can't actually dance to every kind of song like, you have, like, you're just not able to play in rhythm. And for all the kinds of colors of the rainbow of all these different plays that they're calling. And then Jacoby Brissette comes in and like, damn, didn't. He's not, like, more talented than Kyler Murray, but he can just run more.

[Craig Korobeck]

Versions, even if playing rhythm.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. He could just play. You don't just do your job. It's like, if everything's working, like, he could just keep the train moving. It doesn't have to be around him. But when KYLER Murray was 24 and again had the athleticism of someone who was the ninth overall pick in the MLB draft and also the first in the NFL, and he could just run around and extend every play by five seconds, like Russell Wilson, who could also do this in 2016, then that is better. You're bringing more to the party than you are taking away. When the athleticism starts to go, you're just taking stuff away from the offense without the otherworldly creation ability.

[Danny Kelly]

And.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then you're like, holy shit, Jacoby Brissette's better than you. Actually, it's been really strange.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I. Unfortunately for Kyler, I. I don't think he's going to age well at all in the NFL.

[Danny Heifetz]

No.

[Craig Korobeck]

His size and his scrambling ability, I mean, he's already. I don't think people think of this about Kyler, but this is his seventh season, seventh season for Kyler Murray. He's been in the league a very, very long time, and I'm. I'm not sure how many more opportunities he's. I mean, he'll probably be a starter for another team next year, if I had to guess, and he'll get one more crack at it. But like, KYLER MURRAY At 33 years old, I'm not sure how that would look. I'm not sure how that would work.

[Danny Heifetz]

Eventually, it'll kind of look like Russell Wilson a little. Kyler's a better throw of the football probably, but I. I guess. And again, I don't want to bury Kyler. Like, obviously, he's really talented. He's really good. I think the flip side with Kyler is it's weird that we're talking about this, and this is kind of the two, I think, too. It's not like people are in love with the intangibles. Like, we're still hearing stuff. Whispers about Kyler's, like, leadership and stuff. And it's like that stuff doesn't fly if you're not good.

[Craig Korobeck]

Do you think Kyler and Bryce Young, who. I would say Bryce Young has been fine. I don't know if, like, the Ceiling is there for Bryce Young. I feel like we all kind of know what he is. Do you think that the under six foot quarterback and under six foot quarterback will ever go first overall in the NFL draft ever again?

[Danny Heifetz]

No, probably not.

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't think so either.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, even Baker Mayfield, it took five years for him to really look good.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, Caleb is not that much taller though, at the end of the.

[Craig Korobeck]

This is the thing with Caleb.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, we joke about this, but the NFL Draft, the GMs aren't that different than women on hinge where it's like a guy's 6 foot flat. It's all we talk about Caleb 6:1. It doesn't come up in the draft process. This is also Caleb Williams issue and that's not about him. It's like Aaron Rodgers isn't that much taller. He's like six two, I guess, but like.

[Craig Korobeck]

But Kyler's like five, nine, right?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Ten, five, nine, five, ten. Yes.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. And I'm so, so. I mean, that's three inches shorter than Caleb, which is.

[Danny Heifetz]

It is a big deal.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a. That's a lot. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So, yeah. I mean, and again, watch Kyler come back, it'd be great. But overall, I mean, there's a reason Arizona, I mean, Arizona's, no offense, but like one of the more forgettable teams, generally speaking. But Arizona is.

[Danny Kelly]

If you're playing the Cardinals, if your team's playing the Cardinals, wouldn't you rather have Kyler. Wouldn't you rather have them play Kyler than Brissette right now?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. I mean, do the fans in this.

[Craig Korobeck]

Game, especially in the second half, I.

[Danny Heifetz]

Mean, Jadevian Clowney, really. I mean, they kept. Arizona kept having six offensive linemen in this game and they still couldn't block like Jadevian Clowney. There were a lot of. I mean, there were a couple. I mean, some of it isn't necessarily on be set. There were a lot of just unblocked plays. Like there was a lot of sloppiness from Arizona in this game. I do want to just before we move on, shout out. Arizona is some cool youth on this team. I am a believer in Will Johnson at cornerback, the cornerback out of Michigan. I'm a believer in Walter Nolan, who I think got his first career sack tonight at Ole Miss, who's a very touted guy entering college. But I don't care about them. Calais Campbell ending this game. He's motherfucker was born in 1982 or, sorry, 1986.

[Danny Kelly]

You were born right at the end there.

[Danny Heifetz]

He just ended the game with the two sacks and with Dallas and feasibly could have still come back and won the game. Legend I Calais Campbell's literally the oldest defender in the NFL and he genuinely could have retired before COVID and had a long NFL career. And it is crazy that Calais Campbell is actually impacting a Monday Night Football.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I love that guy. He's awesome. He did like the, the step back jumper. After beginning that second sack, he was.

[Danny Heifetz]

Slowing down the hurry up. Like Dallas is trying to get to the line. He's like, I'm gonna fucking celebrate this sack. It might be the last one he ever gets. Yeah. So yeah. Shout out Clay's camp dk. What were you. Does it. Does Clay's Campbell give you hope? Because like even Kai the other day was lamenting that there are athletes like his age. Does it make you feel better that a guy's getting sacks that's basically your age?

[Danny Kelly]

Yes, it does. Definitely. How old is he? Wait, 39? Yeah, man, that's wild.

[Danny Heifetz]

He turns 40. Oh, he just turned 39. Regardless, that's actually insane. Okay, anything else from this game before we move on here?

[Craig Korobeck]

No. I would say back to back the Sunday night into Monday night. One of the more. One of the more forgettable back to backs, I would say of the NFL season this year.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, pretty ass. Cowboys suck. Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

Pretty ass.

[Craig Korobeck]

Just like Javante.

[Danny Heifetz]

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[Craig Korobeck]

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[Danny Heifetz]

All right, let's get to waivers here.

[Craig Korobeck]

Week 10, baby man, week 10, dude.

[Danny Kelly]

The playoffs are just around the corner.

[Danny Heifetz]

What the hell?

[Craig Korobeck]

So much time now. Yeah, it is fantasy. It's like do or die.

[Danny Heifetz]

We're going to get into like, you know, power hour over the coming weeks where you get to trade targets. Everyone. I would recommend you go to your league settings and actually look and check what your trade deadline is and confirm you, the commissioner. Because sometimes people are like, oh, actually I'm going to move it up a week or whatever. But like, yeah, it's time to start. If you're in first or second place, it's time to start thinking about like, you know, oh, you're going to make the playoffs. Like, what is your week 15, 16, 17. Also just the most basic of all, make sure your league has the playoffs set to week 15, 16, 17. Because the worst thing ever is when buys are in week 14 and someone started the playoffs that way because they didn't check. Or we. We get emails from people who are like, my commissioner didn't know that week 18, whatever. Just make sure the playoffs are just the three weeks, otherwise it sucks. With that said, we're going through waivers coming up here for week 10. We're going to go position by position. We're going to give our top pick at that position that we would try to play for this week or beyond. And if we pick the same guy, we're going to do a trivia tiebreaker. It's not that complicated. I promise you'll figure it out. Email us at ringer fantasy football gmo.com if you have trivia questions. They're getting good. The trivia questions have been, you guys have been on fire. Thank you for that. Make sure there are numbers so we can go closest to the pin. Also email us your fantasy course for power hour. With that said, decent amount of injuries this week. Dk.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Starting at running back, who's your number one running back pick you would play if you had to play for someone for this week in week 10, I think we could have a whole separate little mini category here for stashes for later. But if you had to play someone to get fantasy points in week 10, who would you pick up off waivers?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yucky. Yucky.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't like that question because none of these are really good options.

[Craig Korobeck]

This is the nastiest week at running back, I think.

[Danny Kelly]

Think I'm going to go out on a limb, I guess, and say Tank Bigsby for the Eagles just because good offense they're going to have give him position to score. We don't know yet what the Saquon or what Saquon's groin is looking like this week? Sorry.

[Danny Heifetz]

Looks like.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. We don't know how healthy Saquon is going to be this week. They're going to be playing the Packers. It's a big game for both teams. Bigsby look great in this last game. He. We. We know he has talent. He's a good runner. And again, this is a good offense that will give him situations where he can score. So I guess I'm going big Spee. But we don't even know if he's going to play that much because Saquon could just play.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I mean, you could just probably. I mean, you have a whole nother day before you have to submit your waiver claim. So you can see, it was reported that this Saquon groin injury does not appear to be serious and that if the game were closer or more important last week, he probably would have stayed in the game. So, DK, if you knew that Saquon was playing in week 10, who, who would you pick instead?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, the. The reason I just went with Bigsby is because then I could do that. We do the same thing with Dylan Sampson for the Browns, who, if he, you know, goes in for Quinton Juckins, who hurt his shoulder, Quinte on Juckins back out of practice on Monday. We don't know yet what his status is going to be for the game, but he's at least participating in practice, so that's a good sign. And then past that, honestly, like, there's nobody I feel confident about. So to me, it was like, these are contingent picks. If the starters are hurt this year or this week, I should say, then we can definitely start them. But otherwise you're just kind of getting guys that are in committees right now.

[Danny Heifetz]

So let's get two giant caveats out of the way. We're recording this Monday night. The NFL trade deadline is tomorrow. Yeah, that's. Please give it a massive caveat to, like. I mean, this is kind of a dumb example. Like, if the Titans trade Tony Pollard, obviously Taj Spears is the starter for the Titans. Even then, he probably still sucks because the Titans defense, the Titans schedule sucks. That's the thing, I think offense sucks.

[Craig Korobeck]

If something happened to Alvin Camara, I'm like, dude, Devin Neal. It's like, this sucks. Doesn't move these running backs on terrible teams.

[Danny Heifetz]

Those are ones we can predict. The obvious one is like, Isaiah Davis for the jets, where it's like, if Breece hall gets traded Isaiah Davis is the starter. Braylon Allen's injured. Even then I'm like Isaiah Davis probably going to suck too. But the point being if there was some running back backfield shift from a trade that obviously changes the conversation, I don't think we can try to predict those right now. Like Isaiah, like at this point it's Tuesday. Like on just you're going to see the deadlines and you'll submit the claims to DK's point. I actually think the argument for what DK is saying is actually that if you're going to just play whack a mole at running back and you're basically just hoping to get a Tyler Alger, ask like 11 points because the backup running back scored a touchdown, you get lucky like Algeria Vulturing Bijan Robinson or really Devin Singletary taking a goal and carry to the end zone instead of Tyrone Tracy. I kind of think DK has a point in that if you take Bigsby it's a roll of the dice. And if Saquon gets re injured at any point in the next month and you have Tank Bigsby, you have tripped into like a top 15 running back every week sake once out. So I do think that's a, that that is actually more interesting to me. But then take Bigsby is like what really is the difference between like I would if I need points this week I would pick Devin Singletary for the Giants because he's a goal line running back and he's on waivers. But what is really the difference between Devin Singletary when the Giants are trying versus Tank Bigsby when Saquon has to rotate out? I don't know.

[Craig Korobeck]

So I think you could also probably say the same thing for guys like Brian Robinson on the niners.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes.

[Craig Korobeck]

If McCaffrey were to get dinged up or I mean honestly the other guy I think who's probably not quite on this tier but Blake Corum on the Rams gets a lot of runs when the Rams are winning big, when Kyron's tired and he looks good and he seems like he's finally kind of earn the trust of McVay a little bit. So I think the three of them are kind of in like you might get seven, eight carries out of them anyway next week and if the starter were to go down they might change your entire league.

[Danny Heifetz]

I agree with that. Blake Corum, especially because the Rams are playing the Niners this week. The Niners defensive line. So remember how we were saying the only healthy lineman they had was Mikel Williams ACL gone. He tore His ACL just absolutely brutal. The Niners are down to their, I want to say, four fifth and sixth string defensive ends. Like, the Niners have four healthy defensive ends. They're probably two of them joined the team last week. So it's like they have no run defense. So I, I agree with Craig, like, but it's the same thing where if anything happens to Kyron Williams, Blake corn be crazy valuable.

[Craig Korobeck]

So what do we want to do?

[Danny Kelly]

Who do we want to choose here?

[Danny Heifetz]

The other massive caveat that we have to give though is if Kyle Manungai is available, the Bears running back, you have to add him. We're assuming that he's been added between because he's rostered and like, he went from like 8% roster to like 80% rostered. If Kyle Manon guy's available, we all agree Kyle man from the Bears would absolutely be the guy you have to pick here. Like, it's so obvious to us that we're not even going to include him in this exercise.

[Craig Korobeck]

We should also. Now we've mentioned nine guys. I want to mention a tenth. We should probably mention Terrell Jennings on the, on. On the Patriots. Ramondre's got a toe injury. Those things can linger. Terrell Jennings had 12 touches, got some goal line work. Like, you know, if that's actually a guy where if you want to bank on somebody getting a touchdown next week. If I had to bet any of these guys to get a touchdown next week, Terrell Jennings actually might be number one.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, but we don't know if Ramandre.

[Danny Heifetz]

Is going to play.

[Craig Korobeck]

Right. That's what I'm saying. But it's all. You basically have 24 hours to make this decision. We're recording Monday night, like, Tuesday night when we get a better sense of all these injuries, you're going to have to kind of make that call for yourself. But what should we do? Tank Bigsby?

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, probably Terrell Jennings. If you actually had to play someone this week. If you're like three and five and if you lose this week, it doesn't matter. You're not thinking about the future. Like, probably Terrell Jennings, if we're being honest.

[Craig Korobeck]

But that's only if from Andre's out. But yes, okay, yeah, he's a toe.

[Danny Heifetz]

Injury, but it's not a toe injury. It's turf toe. Right?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So I'm like, okay, all right. If you don't want to. If you don't want to take Terrell Jennings, I get it. Honestly, part of me does want to just do Blake Corum because the Rams, the Niners defense is going to get, I think, pretty carved out by McVay.

[Craig Korobeck]

Why don't we. This was what we should do this. We should just do trivia, and then whoever wins can just pick whoever they want because it seems like we can't.

[Danny Heifetz]

Agree that is actually. Yeah, there we go. Wow. Split trivia.

[Danny Kelly]

This is the first time we're just like, none of these guys.

[Danny Heifetz]

We don't super unprepared for DK to say, take Bigsby.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I like that, though.

[Danny Kelly]

You never know what he's gonna do next. The teams are not usually super forthcoming about injuries, and so, like, we could see Saquon be limited in practice all week, and then they just rest him because they want to save him for the playoffs.

[Danny Heifetz]

Part of me does think it is worth being like, what is really the difference between trying to parse it for backup running backs can get 5 or 8 or 10 points versus part of me is like, the. The extra value of if Blake Corum, if Kyron gets hurt and Tank Bigsby, if Saquon gets hurt, and the third guy that I'm, Brian Robinson, if he's available, if McAff gets hurt. Like, those guys are just so much more valuable if there's an injury. The fact that Saquon already has an existing injury. This is how we got to the Kyle Banungai situation, because we were talking for a month that, well, DeAndre Swift's playing through a groin injury or quad, whatever. If he aggravates it, he'll be great. So actually, I just talked myself into Tank Bigsby.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I think it's. I agree. I think it's Tank.

[Danny Kelly]

All right.

[Danny Heifetz]

It. Tank Pigsby showed up.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, full circle.

[Craig Korobeck]

It is the. Take Bigsby showdown time.

[Danny Heifetz]

The only piece.

[Danny Kelly]

Let that linger for a while. I like that.

[Craig Korobeck]

Let it linger.

[Danny Heifetz]

God, dude, I love, love that song. Also love the gong. This one's from Camille.

[Craig Korobeck]

Camille.

[Danny Kelly]

Camille. Is that a C. C bone or is it a K? C bone. What's up?

[Danny Heifetz]

Breakfast. Is this. I don't know how to pronounce this. Siggy's plain Greek yogurt.

[Craig Korobeck]

Blueberries.

[Danny Kelly]

I thought you were saying cigarettes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, no. I mean, some people actually do say that in the breakfast.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wait, so what did he have? Ciggies and what else?

[Danny Heifetz]

Or she.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay, sure. What did they have? Sorry.

[Danny Heifetz]

Siggy's plain Greek yogurt. Blueberries and granola.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wow.

[Danny Kelly]

Pretty healthy.

[Craig Korobeck]

What a nice, lovely breakfast to begin your day.

[Danny Heifetz]

So Camille writes about how we always joke about Chris Collinsworth, including how Chris Collinsworth's father was Abe Lincoln. Collinsworth.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yep.

[Danny Heifetz]

And so Camille wrote, but nobody ever talks about how next to Chris is this angel, Mike Tirico. So Camille asks, how many professional sports has Mike Tirico done, play by play or in game commentary for? Not including the Olympics.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, not. I was going to ask about that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Not including the Olympics. How many different sports has Mike Tirico done, play by player in game commentary?

[Craig Korobeck]

Do they have to be professional or.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I don't think so.

[Craig Korobeck]

Like, if he started out doing, like, minor league baseball or like high school.

[Danny Heifetz]

Baseball, I think 20 year olds.

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Now and then. Yeah. Okay.

[Craig Korobeck]

All right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Three, two, one.

[Craig Korobeck]

Seventeen.

[Danny Kelly]

God damn.

[Danny Heifetz]

What did you say, Craig?

[Danny Kelly]

I said 18. Craig said 17.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, wow. I said 12. Yeah, I got five.

[Craig Korobeck]

I feel like, sandwiched then. Damn it.

[Danny Kelly]

I was just thinking before we read the answer, I'm like, doesn't he do Olympic stuff? Like, wouldn't there be like, you're banging out like six or seven sports in a day?

[Danny Heifetz]

But you said no Olympics.

[Craig Korobeck]

No Olympics, though.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, fuck. I didn't hear that part.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay. He just doesn't listen to anything.

[Danny Kelly]

You say a lot of stuff, man. I can't listen to every word.

[Craig Korobeck]

You're always saying stuff.

[Danny Kelly]

Listen, you say a lot of words.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's what Collinsworth says.

[Danny Kelly]

I only have a certain amount of room in my brain.

[Danny Heifetz]

The answer is I have to count one. PGA Tour, ESPN, Monday Football, NBA, NHL, World Cup Golf, Indy 500, college football, Stanley Cup. That's nine. I don't think we. Football night in America. I don't think that counts as separate. Oh, wait, no, that. Oh, yeah, we didn't count that. Is Monday night, Sunday Night Football different? Doesn't matter. I think I won here. Nine or ten.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

See, sometimes when I don't read the answer in advance, it's not as interesting as I thought.

[Craig Korobeck]

A very normal number, like.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah, that's okay. All right, well, you know what, Camille? I appreciate your breakfast. Whatever. They can all be winners. I'll take Tank Bigsby for the same reason as Kyle Manon guy, which is if Saquon scoring gets worse over November and you have Tank Bigsby on your roster, you will maybe win your league.

[Craig Korobeck]

I want Blake Corum, also a great pick. I. Cause I kind of think that if. I think if. If Kyron Williams gets hurt, I think Blake Corum can do like or recreate 90% of the fantasy production of Kyron Williams. I don't. If McCaffrey gets hurt so much of his of his role is receiving. Not that Brian Robinson can't do that, but I, I just question. I don't know if he'll be able to replicate that. And, and the offense is like, you know, I don't know. I think I'd rather.

[Danny Kelly]

Super accurate.

[Danny Heifetz]

The irony that DK after all this gets stuck having to pick between these guys anyway is really funny.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. There's not a lot of great. I don't know where I'm going here. I guess I'm gonna go with Dylan Sampson just because if Judkins doesn't come back or if he reenters his shoulder.

[Danny Heifetz]

Judkins is expected to play this week. Kevin Stefanski's already said that. You no interest in Devin Singletary. He's the goal line back for the Giants. I get that the Giants suck.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, I'll take. I'll take Singletary. I feel like that's.

[Craig Korobeck]

They are playing Chicago.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, that's the floor pick. I'll go with Singletary. I think Samson, though, like, it wouldn't be super surprising to see Judkins aggravate that shoulders. You know, shoulders can be finicky, so. But there's no good option here.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. You can't lower your, like, forearm to hit a defender.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's tough out there for what, running back?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Do you guys feel like it was harder like the running back? I, I, I, for lack of a better term, it's just less liquid to find snaps at running back this year than anything. Remember.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, once again, knock on wood. Been a pretty healthy running back year. There has. I would say across the board. Help me. But there has not really been like a true. Usually there is a couple waiver wire explosions every year. I don't know. Has there been one? I guess Kamani Vidal has been good for a couple games.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think.

[Craig Korobeck]

I think it was, I guess, Rico Dowdle.

[Danny Heifetz]

Rico Dowdle.

[Craig Korobeck]

But it's. It's only been like three games really.

[Danny Heifetz]

But Dowdle was. Even then Chuba was not really supposed to be like a huge injury. And I don't think anyone saw Daddle thing coming. Hampton going down. It was confusing because it was Haskins or Vidal. And I don't think people played right. And then Vidal and then the other one was James Connor. Really. The frenzy was for Trey Benson, who then was immediately injured.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. And you know, like, Rashad White's been okay when Bucky Irving was out, but he was rostered soon. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, no, I don't think anyone added Rashad White.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I feel like he was mostly Already in some. Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Hasn't been a lot of waiver wire league winners this year. Maybe that'll change.

[Danny Kelly]

Hope.

[Craig Korobeck]

Maybe everyone will get hurt this week. That'd be cool.

[Danny Heifetz]

It'll probably be terrell Jennings, who. No. 1. No one picked. Wide receiver. I think the. The wide receiver depth this week is actually pretty solid.

[Danny Kelly]

Receiver is much better, I think.

[Danny Heifetz]

Who's your number one receiver entering week 10 that you would take?

[Danny Kelly]

There are three guys that I think are really good picks, and I'm gonna go with. I'll just go with the safe one here, I guess. Alec Pierce for the Colts, who is quietly having a pretty solid season overall. The last couple of WEEKS he's had five targets, 10 targets, four targets. Sorry, that was before. This week we had 13 targets. And he is a deep threat on a very good offense in the Colts. Daniel Jones likes to chuck it up to him downfield. He's had at least four targets in every game except for week one. So he's averaging almost nine points per game. I mean, it's a floor play here because there's a couple other guys who I like also. But I guess I'll just go with, like, the consistency that Alec Pierce brings here.

[Craig Korobeck]

He's on pace for over a thousand yards this year. He has 501 yards through seven games.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he's good. I think he's a good player.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm going to do the stupid thing for if we're. I guess if we're just going for next week, if things change a little bit because they're playing Houston. But stupidly, I'm thinking about Parker Washington on Jacksonville, But I just know the game's going to start and I'm going to be like, why the fuck did I take the Jags? But D. Brown had a concussion in this game. Ryan Thomas didn't play in overtime because of an ankle injury. Travis Hunter's out for a while. So I'm like, Parker Washington, he's kind of like, someone's got to catch passes on this team, but that doesn't always work out. But Parker Washington has been okay the last couple of weeks. So that's where I'm.

[Danny Kelly]

What.

[Craig Korobeck]

What?

[Danny Kelly]

He. He was the other guy I like the most here.

[Danny Heifetz]

I like. Neither one's perfect because the culture in Germany next week and how many times he's turned on the German, the European game. And you're like, why did I pick a player in this game? Like, you know what I mean? Like that. And then the Colts go on by. So that's. That's the issue with Alec Pierce too, where you're like, oh, I'm going to add a guy, he's going to get two catches because it's like the fucking Germany game and Daniel Jones or whatever looks weird and then he goes on by and you cut him. And I'm like, I get. Because I agree with everything you said, dk. I'm just saying sometimes you pick a guy in that European game, you feel stupid. But I agree with what you're saying too, Craig, where it's like, oh, cool, I picked up a third string receiver against the best defense in the NFL. It's not ideal. I am going to lean to Parker Washington because I think I want to.

[Danny Kelly]

Change my answer, actually. Yeah, here, here's the deal. I'm going to go with Washington too because Travis Hunter's on the IR Prime. Brian Thomas Jr. Has an ankle injury. He's probably not going to play. Diami Brown has a concussion. Tim Patrick was already hurt coming into this last game with a groin injury. They like actually don't have anyone else.

[Craig Korobeck]

That is their starting tight end's been out.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, Strange, Brent, strange.

[Danny Heifetz]

That is why I'm taking Parker Washington because the only reason put Stingley on him and he's.

[Craig Korobeck]

But I know.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, that was the only reason. I looked at the schedule and I was like, God, this is the Texans.

[Craig Korobeck]

The Texas Davis Mills versus Parker Washington.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, but I think ultimately he gives.

[Craig Korobeck]

You.

[Danny Kelly]

Like more upside down over more than one game.

[Danny Heifetz]

I guess he'll have three catches on screens alone for Parker Washington.

[Craig Korobeck]

Let me ask, what if we just pick Christian Watson now that Tucker Craft towards acl Matthew golden might not play. And it's like, all right, you have Dobbs and Christian Watson going against the Eagles. Matters for the backers.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's the funny part about the receivers this week. I actually look at them all individually and there's all like glaring like, Christian Watson's clearly the most talented guy here when healthy. But then you're like, who? Watson's still on a snap count. It's also funny to pick a guy still in a snap count. Is also the most explosive player in Green Bay, Tori Horton from Seattle. Where you're like, is he going to just take Cooper Cup's role? But then you're like, okay, so I'm just bounty banking this rookie to take catch touchdowns. All Torrey Harden does is catch touchdowns. What if Cooper cup comes back and then Tory Horton doesn't play in two receiver sets, goes back to three receiver sets. Trey Tucker is like an awesome receiver for the Raiders. Brock Barris is clearly the one. If Jacoby Myers gets traded, you'd be like, oh, Trey Tucker, if he's available, maybe he's been cut. But then they're playing the Broncos and I know Patrick Certain is probably going to miss that game too. But if Jacoby Myers doesn't get traded, you're like, why am I adding Trey Tucker on my team? But all those guys could work out to Horton could take Cooper Cups role and then he's going to be great. Trey Tucker could just be the number two on a Raiders team. That's way better with Bowers. And then all these defensive coordinators are going to see Bowers last week and be like, we'd rather trade Tucker of the football. Watson could just easily be Christian Watson. All these guys are good options. Alec Pierce to me is easy. I agree, dk. If I actually to pick a guy of like, your life depends on this guy getting double digits this week or you'll die, I'd pick Alec Pierce. The combo of like, he's the perfect kind of replacement. The fact that he goes on by next week, I feel like I'm not necessarily getting the juice. So I'll probably go with Parker Washington solely because the staying power of Travis Hunter being on injured reserve, I'm like, Parker Washington will probably be playable for the coming games. But I'm, I mean, maybe I'm, I'm also like, I have Christian Watson in the ringer league and I'm not cutting him for these guys. So maybe the answer is Christian Watson.

[Craig Korobeck]

I think I.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm also not. Yeah, I think Christian Watts, if you're factoring in the rest of the season, Christian Watson has to have the most upside for the simple reason that Jordan Love is going to keep chucking the ball downfield all year and Watson in theory is going to get healthier as a larger role. So maybe. Actually, now that I'm saying it, Christian Watson should be first for me. I would have Parker Washington second and Alec Pierce third. But if you're in a do or die matchup this week, I would actually take Alec Pierce.

[Craig Korobeck]

Parker Washington has 19 targets in his last two games.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's, he's, he's the top receiver. Also, we've been saying Brian Thomas looks like ass all year. I kind of look good. Last week he got hurt.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, maybe I'll do Parker Washington. I think it's Parker Washington.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I'm gonna, I'm gonna go with that too.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right, fuck it. All right, fine, I'll do.

[Danny Kelly]

But I think, yeah, I mean, the reason we're so wishy washy on this is cause there are three good options. Actually.

[Danny Heifetz]

There are. Yeah. You know what? You know what else I don't want? I, I, I Christian Watson, if you have the luxury of waiting for the season, I don't like that. The Eagles and Vic Fangio playing the packers this week. They just added two cornerbacks and it's like, I kind of think they're gonna throw Jordan love really off his game. There's a. Like, Vic Fangio just has a lot of new pieces. They have a new nickel Michael Card. Like, they can do a lot of new stuff now. So I don't love that either. So, yeah, we'll do Parker Washington showdown.

[Craig Korobeck]

We'll trust Parker Washington going up against the Texans defense.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's do that.

[Craig Korobeck]

All right. It is all these guys are so flawed. It is the Parker Washington showdown time. All right, give me something good and start with a breakfast.

[Danny Kelly]

It's from Sean Shawnee S bone.

[Craig Korobeck]

Is it s e a n or s h a w n or s h o n n e like Sean Green, former running back.

[Danny Heifetz]

Was There was this s h o n n e. I thought it was just s h.

[Craig Korobeck]

O n. Sean Green was s h o n n e, wasn't he?

[Danny Kelly]

It was at least s h o.

[Danny Heifetz]

N n. Oh, no, we're both wrong. S h d k is right. S h o n n. No.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, there was no e. There was.

[Danny Heifetz]

An e on the end of the green.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, just throwing e's out willy nilly.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wow. Yeah. Look at that. I see the trip chop. Anyway, it's. It's s h a w n. Got it.

[Craig Korobeck]

What do you think's more common, S e a n or s h a.

[Danny Kelly]

W n s e a n?

[Danny Heifetz]

I think I've seen s e a n more.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, that's right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, from Sean.

[Danny Kelly]

That could be the question.

[Craig Korobeck]

Sean, what's the ratio?

[Danny Kelly]

How many Sean were born?

[Danny Heifetz]

Someone send that in. Don't. Actually, Sean's breakfast is a protein coffee shake made up of a cup of cold brew, a cup of water, two scoops of protein powder. That's just adding protein powder to coffee. That's not a shake.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's like the Workout bros version of a vodka water.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes.

[Danny Kelly]

You know, that does not sound appetizing to me.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cold brew.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. I don't think he's doing it for the taste.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't like cold brew either. Really?

[Craig Korobeck]

So birds one stone.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sean sent it this. I love this question. Sean sent in. He was inspired by Craig's Story about just smoking cigars in your room with your college roommate Chris and just making your fucking room smell horrible. Yeah. So his trivia question is, what's the average temperature of the tip of a burning cigar?

[Danny Kelly]

Jesus Christ.

[Craig Korobeck]

What a disastrous question.

[Danny Heifetz]

How hot is the orange part of the cigar?

[Craig Korobeck]

What a sick and cruel question from Sean.

[Danny Heifetz]

But how hard is how. How hot is like a fire? I love that. I don't know. I've never thought of this.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

How hot is the orange part of a cigar?

[Craig Korobeck]

So, like, right after it's lit, we're.

[Danny Heifetz]

Saying, I. I don't know. It's the. At tip of a burning cigar. I assume the fact burning in my head, I'm like, the orange part.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

How hot is when you take. When you inhale with the orange part. How hot's the orange part of a cigar?

[Danny Kelly]

Every. These questions make me feel so dumb. Like, now I'm like, I don't actually know how hot.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't. Do you guys think everyone driving in their car right now is like, I know the incident.

[Danny Kelly]

This. How hot is fire?

[Craig Korobeck]

I hope not.

[Danny Heifetz]

How? I wrote my answer down, because when I read this, I immediately had a random number pop in, and I'm like, I'm gonna go with that.

[Craig Korobeck]

Feel like all three of us are gonna say the same number.

[Danny Heifetz]

You think?

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't. We'll see. Now. Now I'm gonna change my number.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay. 3, 2, 1, 8. 220.

[Danny Kelly]

I said 275.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wow.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay. Craig or hypit said 800.

[Danny Heifetz]

I said 800 because that's the pizza oven company that LeBron has. Yeah, that's pro was the only reference, probably.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. That. That is supposed to be, like, an incredibly hot pizza, though, right? That's like. It's like, ridiculously hot.

[Danny Heifetz]

Is that. I didn't know that part, I think. Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, so what's the. What's the cigar?

[Craig Korobeck]

I mean, think about, like, you can bake a pizza at 300, 350, or 400. Like, if you really wanted to. Right. It would not be good, but you could still do it. It would suck, but you could.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, but, like, that's in the oven, though. But is that the fire of the oven? Or if you touch the hottest part of the oven? It's hotter than that.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, because when you make pizza at home, it's like, what, 450, 500 is how hot you would go, Right?

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God. I've never felt. It's like a thousand.

[Danny Heifetz]

1650 degrees. 1, 6, 5. 1600 degrees is the cigar. Okay, that's real.

[Danny Kelly]

That's hot.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's dangerous.

[Danny Heifetz]

Double the pizza oven.

[Craig Korobeck]

I was unfamiliar with your game. Fire.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude.

[Craig Korobeck]

Fire's hot.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's my.

[Danny Kelly]

This is like a stupid question, but can fire be, like, a lot of different temperatures?

[Danny Heifetz]

I.

[Craig Korobeck]

Or is it just one temperature question? Hold on. Let me Google that. Now.

[Danny Heifetz]

I will say, yeah, we. We should put that.

[Danny Kelly]

It can be different. It can be different temperatures. It seems.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, definitely can be different temperatures.

[Craig Korobeck]

Also, it says you could bake a pizza at 400 degrees if you wanted to.

[Danny Heifetz]

How hot is fire?

[Danny Kelly]

There's a lot of. There's a lot of answers. You can do fire temperature by color.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah. Right by the color. This is. I feel like you learned this.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, yeah, red is blue. He is. Red is 1100-1800 Fahrenheit. Orange to yellow is around 2000 Fahrenheit. White is 2400-27 Fahrenheit.

[Danny Heifetz]

We.

[Danny Kelly]

We went way too low.

[Danny Heifetz]

My brother was a firefighter, and he will listen to this episode and he's going to be really mad, but we recorded this too late. He's definitely asleep. I can ask. I'll ask my brother about fire.

[Danny Kelly]

Candle flame, 1100-2500 Fahrenheit. Wood fire, 2000. God, dude. There's a lot of variation. The only thing that's constant here is Craig and I were way, way, way though.

[Danny Heifetz]

You guys went to the boiling point of water.

[Danny Kelly]

I was like, I don't know. You know, fire's hot. Is the. Is the last.

[Danny Heifetz]

Fire's hot right now. So hot right now.

[Danny Kelly]

Fire, 1600 fucking cigar. You're just waving that thing around, putting it in your mouth.

[Danny Heifetz]

So I win. I'm two and. Oh, right now, I guess so I'm taking Parker Washington, which is a little crazy about that.

[Craig Korobeck]

Hold on. Boiling temperature of water is 2, what, 10, 20. 220. Boiling water is fucking hot. If you poured boiling water on your hand, it would be.

[Danny Kelly]

It's 212, by the way.

[Craig Korobeck]

212. It would be extremely painful. And yet a cigar is eight times that. If it were to put a cigar into your hand, that's eight times hotter than boiling water. That feels wrong.

[Danny Heifetz]

Does feel wrong. That does feel wrong. I see what you're saying. I think specifically it's.

[Danny Kelly]

This is like every discussion on the Internet. No, it feels wrong, therefore I think it's hotter. Something I don't understand feels wrong, so therefore I.

[Danny Heifetz]

Maybe they're wrong, though. Is it my own 1600 degrees?

[Craig Korobeck]

If somebody was like, hey, would you rather pour boiling water on your hand or put a cigar into your hand? I'd think about it. Like, I don't think there's an obvious answer.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, no, because. No, because if you pour boiling water on you, it will, you will get a, like a burn. If someone puts a cigarette out on you, it is there for years.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, but yeah, I guess it depends. Like if you just like a stamp. If it's a stamp versus boiling water, which would you pick?

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, the size, but that's kind of the point.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't know. I guess in my head, to me, the cigar is not eight times hotter than.

[Danny Heifetz]

Now I'm. Now we're back to how hot is fire?

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, Craig, I do, I did do a little more research just now in.

[Craig Korobeck]

The last 30 seconds. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Which is kind of, it's confirming a little bit like you're, you're, I guess like uncertainty about this. And again, the. The tip of a cigar can vary dramatically according to the AI overview here. Peak temperature can go over a thousand. So like 1800 Fahrenheit that seems the temperature fluctuates.

[Danny Heifetz]

Craig is right.

[Danny Kelly]

It changes dramatically during a puff with variations between 200 and 300 Celsius. So like 400. Whatever.

[Danny Heifetz]

Craig. Craig's right. This has to be a wrong answer. Here's why. When you smoke a cigar and you get down, there's no way that when you're holding the CIGAR, it's.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's 1500 degrees.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's crazy. How are we even entertaining?

[Craig Korobeck]

Imagine holding the cup of boiling water. How open an oven.

[Danny Heifetz]

When you're. What's the highest setting an oven goes to? You clean it like 500, right? Yeah, it's like 600, maybe 600 degrees. When you clean an oven.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

You ever. They lock that shit because you can't even open it because you'll fucking hurt yourself. The idea that you would be holding 1600 degrees fingers is ridiculous.

[Danny Kelly]

I read this wrong. There's. There's variations of 200 to 300 Celsius. So like it varies by 400 or something like that. This is a great reminder. Still quite hot.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a great reminder for people to include the fact checks to your answers. Because this is what happens when I get all worried about you guys thinking I'm cheating is I don't actually lock down on whether people have fact check these answers.

[Danny Kelly]

Bottom line, we were wrong, Craig.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, I won the point though. So anyway, Parker Washington. I get him. So who's second? Two. I don't. Craig DK. Said 275, I think.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So DK second so you want Christian Watson or Pierce? I feel like I bulged you out of Alec Pierce and he's gonna have 150 yards and two touchdowns so you should just take him.

[Danny Kelly]

I'll take Alec Pierce.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wait, who and you. Great. I'll get Christian Watson for being a.

[Danny Kelly]

We all like we all liked all these guys.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. I think this is good. I think all these guys have huge potential this week and the rest of the season and they're actually real life talented. I have multiple times my there's always a funnier intrusive thought but I've multiple times just had an intrusive thought that Parker Washington's the best receiver in the Jaguars. I've thought that multiple times watching these games this season But Alec Pierce also just has this like very unique role in Indianapolis where he's I just it's shocking. He doesn't have a touchdown yet this season and they'll probably have one this week. So I actually feel good about these. And again if Jacoby Myers is traded from Denver, Trey Tucker is absolutely worth an ad. So there's good receivers.

[Danny Kelly]

Hold on. Do we want to mention any other guys like Tori Horton in case Cooper cup gets stays hurt? I think it's a good ad.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's gonna get old yellered.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I think, I think cup will still play but there's a potential Tory Horton could see more time Demario Douglas and or Kyle Williams on the Patriots if Kshaan Booty misses time which he probably will.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think Kyle Williams sucks and I don't think you should add him. I think if Pop Douglas is there he's talented. Kyle Williams has been bad drive by.

[Danny Kelly]

On Kyle Williams that was he's been, he's been diverse.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're they're going to trade for receiver because he hasn't if booty in the X receiver is actually talented and able to make sep I don't know. I, I, I have no what are.

[Danny Kelly]

You judging this he sucks on he's.

[Danny Heifetz]

Made you go to practice.

[Craig Korobeck]

What does he suck on High Fitz.

[Danny Kelly]

By what metrics are you judging that he sucks or what evidence do you have organically?

[Danny Heifetz]

Can't believe that I think well I don't mean sucks. I mean it was a good prospect. We liked him coming in. I just he's had no impact in Patriots games this year and he's just never on the same page. He's just never doing the right thing on the field and he just has had made very little impact to me this season even though Drake May is playing an unbelievable level. And so all right, you heard other high Fitz.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't take Kyle Williams.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's probably. You should get Kyle Williams and Khmer DK is like for the Titans is there if you. I'm like, I don't want these guys. Washington, all these guys are dead to me now. Marcus Mariota is going to play instead of Jane Daniels. Luke McCaffrey's hurt. I don't want any of these corpses in Washington. Like, I, I don't know. I'm gonna stay. I'd rather have good guys and good teams. I kind of want to. I don't want to even like, you.

[Craig Korobeck]

Know, you want teams that are literally in the red zone.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. Go. Yeah. Teams in the red zone.

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[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, tight ends. DQ number one.

[Craig Korobeck]

Not a bad week for tight ends.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it's actually a pretty good week for tight ends.

[Danny Kelly]

Colston Loveland for the Bears, who had his big breakout game. And I think importantly here he was playing ahead of Cole Comet even before Kemet went out with a concussion. I mean, I would assume commit misses at least one more game. The Bears get the Giants next, but this could be. I think you have to take the chance and grab him if you can. In the case of this is like his breakout performance and then he continues to, you know, be one of the focal points of their offense.

[Craig Korobeck]

I, I, I first I put Loveland first and Harold Fannin on the Browns second and then I switched, I put Fannin first and Loveland second. And I'm going back and forth because Loveland still a rookie tight end and if Kemet comes back and all these pieces, I, I just don't know. I but I think Fannin is much more the centerpiece of the offense. They could the Browns could trade in Joku tomorrow and then Fannin is really the centerpiece of the offense. However then I'd be betting on Dylan Gabriel and whatever the hell the Browns offense is versus the Bears and Ben Johnson and how how they continue to get better.

[Danny Heifetz]

So it's.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's very, very tricky for me. I Where are you leaning?

[Danny Heifetz]

Everything you just said, I feel I totally co sign I've done the same thing. I almost wish David and Joku would get traded because then it's like Harold Fan it is so much clearly the right answer here but I agree Craig with everything you just said. I think the short answer is like they're both kind of betting on on rookie tight ends with unusually good receiving profiles. Loveland because he was taking really high and just had an awesome game and Fanon because he's just like a receiver who led every conceivable metric and dumb stats and advanced stats in college. He's just a receiver plays tight end. Harold Fanon is so I will probably go with like again if you're telling me about this week, kind of think Harold Fannin. I mean I don't really. I mean again the fact that both these teams are going against New York teams I think is really funny. I think I. I kind of think Harold Fanning probably matches up a little better against the jets. But again it's like would you rather have the kind of number one option and a bad offense or like the number three offense, the number three option on like a above average offense. I don't even know if the Bears you feel that way necessarily.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, I would say to answer that I in fantasy typically a tight end to reach really high levels in fantasy they need to be the number one or number two option. That is usually what you're looking for when you want a strong fantasy tight end.

[Danny Heifetz]

Part of me just thinks that part of me just I will probably lean Harold Fannin for the simple reason that he was able to contribute so early that there is a chance to me that coming out of Cleveland's buy that he just has this like bump as a receiver and that Colston Loveland, while he was awesome, he has had exactly one game of impact against the worst defense in the NFL and he has 27 points. Last week half of those were basically at one play where it was a total fluke touchdown. And if Colson Loveland had nearly had 14 points we'd probably say he was like second to fan. And I'll go with fan. But it's totally like dealer's choice. Like I'm. We can barely make up our minds. But I'll say Harold Fannin. But frankly they're both crazy talented and way better than usual waiver wire picks and weak 10 at 10 is the. Is the real point.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'll go Fanning as well.

[Danny Kelly]

I like Fanon.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right, you want to love Loveland or fan it?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I. I'll. We can do the trivia on Fanon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, but you can. You're allowed to take Loveland.

[Danny Kelly]

Just. Let's just do this. Let's do this trivia.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right.

[Craig Korobeck]

Guy loves trivia. Let's do it. Harold Fannin Jr. Showdown time.

[Danny Heifetz]

C. Mills from Luke.

[Danny Kelly]

Luke Elbone. It's a little.

[Craig Korobeck]

No. Luke, I am your father. You guys seen that movie?

[Danny Heifetz]

Does that. God damn it.

[Danny Kelly]

That was really accurate. Took me right back to that scene. Also. I don't. Didn't they don't he. Doesn't he never actually say, Luke, I am your father.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, he just says. He says, no, I am your father.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, the Luke, I'm your father is not actually line funny.

[Danny Kelly]

Anyway.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, they should just fix.

[Danny Kelly]

I've seen that movie.

[Danny Heifetz]

Luke's breakfast was sausage, egg and cheese biscuits, slice of pepperoni, sausage pizza. 24 ounce sugar free monster, athletic free wavy hazy IPA non alcoholic. What? What?

[Danny Kelly]

Jesus Christ.

[Danny Heifetz]

This kid skipped over that part. That's insane.

[Danny Kelly]

Wait, he had for breakfast sausage, egg.

[Danny Heifetz]

And cheese biscuit, slice of pepperoni and sausage pizza.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, I'm worried about you.

[Danny Heifetz]

24 ounce sugar free monster and then an athletic free wave Hazy ipa non alcoholic.

[Danny Kelly]

That's kind of wild.

[Craig Korobeck]

He had a non athletic beer breakfast.

[Danny Heifetz]

Why the fuck is he.

[Craig Korobeck]

I haven't heard of that before. This is why we do this. This is why we get the breakfast.

[Danny Heifetz]

What do you mean a non alcoholic free wave hazy IPA in the fucking morning with a slice of pizza and his sausage, egg and cheese on a biscuit.

[Craig Korobeck]

I kind of. Maybe that's like his Monday morning move. He's like, I still want it to be the weekend in my head.

[Danny Kelly]

So it sounds like a bachelor party.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sausage just everything in the fridge. Oh my God. What the.

[Danny Kelly]

I've never heard that he's starting an athletic na.

[Craig Korobeck]

Beer in the morning problem or not? I'm like, I guess it's cool.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, is he doing a good job or is this like concerning when those.

[Danny Heifetz]

Athletic brewing people started making free Wave hazy non alcoholic IPAs. Do you think anyone was like, we should sell this for breakfast. They're like, no, you morons. Nobody's gonna have this for breakfast.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, he's just. He's just having pizza and beer for breakfast.

[Danny Heifetz]

Don't forget the sausage.

[Craig Korobeck]

And a monster.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sugar free monster free. Sugar free monster.

[Danny Kelly]

And 24 hours sugar free.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's a big boy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my God, Luke, you're a psychopath.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, like Danny.

[Danny Kelly]

Danny McBride and what's the. What? This is the end.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Making the breakfast.

[Danny Kelly]

The whole spread wild.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, so Luke writes. I've long thought so. He's talking about how we always say, there's Spongebob millennials, and DK's, like, saved by the bell. Millennials. DK, you're. You're 42, right?

[Danny Kelly]

43.

[Danny Heifetz]

43. Craig and I are 30.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm 30.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, you're 31. Yeah. So there you go. 13 year 12. 13 year age gap. So Luke writes, I have always thought the pod needs a middle generation millennial to the niche and finesse of some of the generational questions. Because Luke says, I'm 38. And the number of times I've screamed like a ghost that I'm a Boy Meets World millennial.

[Craig Korobeck]

Damn, it's World.

[Danny Heifetz]

And Luke says that there are multiple times we've talked about something that actually threads the needle that neither of us understand. And Luke says they bring this up because it happened again this week with the discussion about textbook covers because DK says he's never heard of them.

[Danny Kelly]

I was like, I don't know what the fuck you guys are talking about. I saw a picture of it on the no Context Ringer fantasy football show Instagram, and I still didn't know what they were. I mean, I understand what they are, but I'd never seen those before.

[Danny Heifetz]

So Luke was mad that DK never heard of him. Craig was. Luke was mad that Craig and I bought them. Luke says, me and all the other Boy Meets World millennials, we made our own. He says, that's right.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, we did, too. We used paper.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, yes. People used to make. I remember people making the paper ones.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wow. Yeah, I never.

[Danny Heifetz]

I feel like you do know what we were talking about.

[Craig Korobeck]

No, I just didn't know.

[Danny Kelly]

I didn't know what specific things that you guys were talking about. I didn't do those. Also, I did. I watched Boy Meets World. Like, Topanga was a legend.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

He didn't.

[Craig Korobeck]

Corey and Topanga. I can still think of the theme song of that show. Great show, Mr. Feeney. Feeney.

[Danny Kelly]

What what generation do you think watched.

[Danny Heifetz]

Is Mr. Wonder, the guy in Peaky Blinders?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. Don't think so.

[Danny Heifetz]

No way. Those have to be different people.

[Craig Korobeck]

Stefani was.

[Danny Kelly]

Which one are you thinking?

[Danny Heifetz]

Super different people. No, he just looks like him.

[Danny Kelly]

Which guy in Peaky Blinders are you thinking?

[Danny Heifetz]

Inspector Campbell is super different people.

[Danny Kelly]

That's the guy from. It's. He's the guy from Jurassic park one time.

[Craig Korobeck]

Who.

[Danny Heifetz]

You're lying. That's not true.

[Danny Kelly]

His name.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm on there right now. No, that's not true.

[Danny Kelly]

It's true.

[Danny Heifetz]

Who is.

[Danny Kelly]

Are you talking about Inspector Campbell? I'm trying to remember his name now. Yeah, he. His. His name is Sam o'. Neill. Oh, Neal.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sorry, yes.

[Danny Kelly]

Sam Neal, who was in Jurassic Park.

[Craig Korobeck]

Who was like the cool.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, that actually. I actually did not know this. This is blowing my mind.

[Craig Korobeck]

Who was like the cool, hot friend. He's one of three brothers in Boy Meets. What? He's Corey's best friend. You know what I'm talking about. Blanking on his name.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't remember that.

[Craig Korobeck]

Lawrence. Are the Lawrence brothers? Is that them?

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe.

[Craig Korobeck]

Come on, you guys.

[Danny Kelly]

Actually, now I can't remember the show. Well, yeah, so I guess I didn't watch it.

[Craig Korobeck]

Lawrence and his brother, Joey Lawrence and Andrew Lawrence. You know those guys? One time when I was like eight in Hawaii, I ran into them at a hotel.

[Danny Heifetz]

Do you say anything?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I think I did. I think I, like, loved that show. I might have been, I don't know how old I was 8, 9, 10 years old. And I did say something to them.

[Danny Kelly]

Which was the guy? Which one? Which one is the one that said whoa in.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it was in.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't remember the show very well.

[Craig Korobeck]

Matthew Lawrence was also Miss Doubtfire. He's one of the kids.

[Danny Kelly]

Joey Lawrence was like, whoa. That was his catchphrase in Blossom. You guys ever watch that show?

[Craig Korobeck]

I did not.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm gonna go ahead and finish the trivia.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, so this is uninterested now. Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, I mean, we've been on this email for quite a while.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's do it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Luke writes, how many calories was my bread? No, I'm kidding. He. Luke writes, what is the cost? 3,000 of the current soul sucking, cheapest single textbook [e-mail] did a whole thing about, like, how annoyed he is that these get sold and they don't get made. And what's the cost? I'm not gonna.

[Craig Korobeck]

The cost of the cheapest textbook.

[Danny Heifetz]

How much does the cheapest textbook Cover.

[Craig Korobeck]

Are they sold in packs or is this single.

[Danny Heifetz]

Single?

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm surprised they do that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, well, it's Walmart. I don't know. They have every product imaginable.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, we're all gonna guess, like, between zero and $3.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm imagining I wrote down my answer when I saw this.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

3, 2, 1.

[Danny Kelly]

99. 184.

[Danny Heifetz]

I said $7. How much could. How much could a banana cost, Michael?

[Danny Kelly]

It'd be probably more expensive.

[Danny Heifetz]

7. The correct answer is $4 and 75 cents, which actually.

[Danny Kelly]

What is it?

[Danny Heifetz]

475, which I actually think I actually won, which is hilarious.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's a ripoff. I could make you one of those for free.

[Danny Kelly]

So, Heifetz. I was within $2.91.

[Danny Heifetz]

What did you say?

[Danny Kelly]

I said 184. $1.84.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. I think I beat you. That's.

[Danny Kelly]

What did you say?

[Danny Heifetz]

I said seven bucks.

[Danny Kelly]

And then what was the price?

[Danny Heifetz]

475. Are you doing a calculator app right now?

[Danny Kelly]

I am. I'm doing that. 225. What did I have? Fuck. I forgot already. No, we're 225. All right. Sorry. One more time. How much did it cost?

[Danny Heifetz]

475.

[Danny Kelly]

Let me get out my. Get. Let me get it out. Let me get out my abacus.

[Craig Korobeck]

DK get or hyphen. Says two. He's 225 away.

[Danny Kelly]

291. I was farther away. Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

Glad we got there.

[Craig Korobeck]

If it's with the. With the sweep. So now the trif.

[Danny Kelly]

Did you know. Did you know those without using a calculator? You knew exactly how much it was roughly What? I was just trying to do the math. Like, off. I. I guess calculator brain over here. Okay, you won. I got second.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm over here. Just slamming an athletic brewing, trying to get through this show. No. So now the trivia stands at high. Fitz is at 10 after the clean sweep. I'm at 8. DK's at 7.

[Danny Kelly]

Damn. Wow. Okay, so wait, who are you taking? I. Fan.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm going to take Harold Fanon.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay. I'll take Loveland.

[Craig Korobeck]

Ah, that sucks for me. I'll do. Nobody say a word.

[Danny Heifetz]

We also didn't even mention.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, this is my decision. Hold on.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, that's my decision.

[Craig Korobeck]

All right. Don't. Don't tell me what I'm going to do with my pick. I want Isaiah Likely. I want Isaiah Likely on the Ravens. Baltimore Ravens tight end Isaiah Likely.

[Danny Heifetz]

This is a big week because Tucker Kraft from the packers tore his acl. He's out for the season. And I think an interesting thing to keep an eye on is Luke Musgrave, who was actually a tight end drafted higher than Luke Musgrave. He was the second round pick. Tucker Craft was third.

[Danny Kelly]

Tucker Craft, yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

But frankly Tucker Kraft has become a more overall valuable tight end, obviously. So I think the interesting thing is I feel like Luke Musgrave is going to play for Green Bay because they're kind of running out of guys because Dontavin Wicks has an injury and Matthew Golden's got an injury and Christian Watson still on a snap count. And Tucker Crafts confirmed out for the season. But they have John Fitzpatrick who's like the blocking tight end. Luke Musgrave, who's kind of the Kyle Pitts. Like he's a tight end, but is he really? If you can't block, are you a tight end? I don't look. Musgrave seems like a receiver, but also in fantasy. That's good. But how much he's going to play. So Luke Musgrave, to me is the idea of like a guy that I would not be shocked at all if Luke Musgrave is like a total serious top 10 fantasy tight end the rest of the way and better than everyone we just talked about. Better than Fan and better than Loveland. I also think Luke Musgrave could just not catch a pass next week straight up. And so I think he's the biggest boom bust guy.

[Danny Kelly]

I.

[Danny Heifetz]

The idea of throwing Luke Musgrave into your lineup, like, terrifies me. I'm not even sure you could add Luke Musgrave. I also think it's entirely possible Luke Musgrave is the number one fantasy waiver wire pick overall next week.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So it's weird. So likely is like a way safer pick because likely has a like a three year track record of actually being a great NFL player or not great. But that just looks like good to watch play football.

[Craig Korobeck]

I know. I feel like with tight ends it's not like running back. It's like you can't just slot in the backup and it's the same thing. No.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, really it gets distributed elsewhere. Like I think that there's an argument when. Because there's, you know, when Tucker Kraft gets hurt, it's kind of like that's kind of one of the reasons Christian Watson's probably better. It's just there's more passes to go around. It's like running backs. The only other guy I want to say is if you're in a deeper league, AJ Barner for the Seahawks. I. He's not like a traditional great profile of a tight end. He gets a lot of targets. But Darnold's cooking and honestly, Barner gets the tush push for Seattle like he's doing that now like Mark Andrews does. The Ravens on that, the Chiefs, he scored a touchdown this week. Obviously you can't count on that every week. But all the tight ends we're talking about are just like fucking lottery picks anyway. The combo of the Seals are going to be in the red zone a lot. Barnes plays a lot. And the fact that he's the tush push guy just means he's going to be on the field for the goal line to threaten it. I just. I don't know. I'll take that however he can get it. If you're in a deeper league and you really. All these guys we're talking about are taken barter. You could do worse than a guy who might actually get a rushing touchdown.

[Danny Kelly]

Did we mention Dalton Schultz for the Texans?

[Danny Heifetz]

We didn't. And I think we didn't because fucking Davis Mills looks horrible. But it's up to you. I mean, Dalton Schultz, Texans are. He did. He has a ton of targets. Dalton Schultz is totally serviceable if you're truly, truly, truly out of options. Like if you have Tucker Kraft and you are fucked and you don't have any options and all these people are talking about. I could totally see Dalton Schultz over A.J.

[Danny Kelly]

Barner.

[Danny Heifetz]

I just watched Davis Mills against the Niners defense that's depleted and he couldn't do anything. But maybe with a week of practice, he'll be way better. Anything else in tight ends?

[Craig Korobeck]

No, I'm still thinking about his breakfast.

[Danny Heifetz]

Can I read it one more time? Athletic. Athletic.

[Danny Kelly]

Beer for breakfast is deranged sausage, egg.

[Danny Heifetz]

And cheese and a slice of pepperoni sausage pizza. 20. I think he was at a bachelor party when he wrote this. This is I. This is just what's in a fridge at a bachelor party.

[Craig Korobeck]

Can you look?

[Danny Heifetz]

Jimmy Dean.

[Craig Korobeck]

And what was the day of the week that he sent this email?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, that's a good question. Luke.

[Craig Korobeck]

If it's what day of Thursday to Sunday. Oh my God, he said Monday. Psycho. What a stud. Oh my God is on another level. Psycho.

[Danny Kelly]

What a stud.

[Danny Heifetz]

At 11:11. Make a wish. My God, I wish.

[Craig Korobeck]

At 11:11 on a Monday restaurant.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what to feel about this.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, quarterbacks, obviously. A lot of quarterback news this week. CJ Stroud concussed. I feel like he Won't play this week. Obviously. The big one's Jaden Daniels with the elbow. I know that happened while we were recording. I didn't actually see the play. Cause I actually had turned the game off and. Yeah, it was horrific. They're. They're saying Jaden Daniels might not be out for the season or whatever. I.

[Craig Korobeck]

Sure.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, I actually think Washington fans would riot if you brought him back. It doesn't matter. Marcus Bardoza's gonna play for probably the rest of the season. We'll see. They're claiming. They'll say they'll have more information on Jay Daniels the rest of the year. Did you see. Sorry. The rest of this week. Did you see that? I. I kind of. Actually. We whiffed on this because it happened live that Robert Griffin the third also got hurt in his second season against Seattle. And it was kind of like the same area of the field, which obviously it's different because it's not the turf's fault. Like, it's his arm getting stuck isn't the same as the knee.

[Craig Korobeck]

Did you see that? He didn't fracture anything.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes, he didn't fracture anything.

[Danny Kelly]

He dislocated it. Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

But I don't think that's the point.

[Craig Korobeck]

No, no, I'm not. I'm not saying he's fine now. I'm just surprised at that.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's true. I think a dislocation. The fear, though, is not necessarily a fracture.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's all the ligaments rip and tear and.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, it's like when you dislocate your knee, they're not like your knees broken. They're like, oh, you have to go to the hospital because your arteries might be severed. I don't understand. That's what happened with him. Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

The.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Just the idea that it could go in that direction and nothing broke is.

[Craig Korobeck]

No bones cracked.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's limber. He's a limber guy. Anyway, so Marcus Mariota, I think is a really, really, really ugly quarterback that you could add and just like in the Trubisky. Well, he's.

[Craig Korobeck]

He's.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's an attractive man, but don't watch him play football. He'll just get you 16 points with rushing. Right. I think he's the guy to add like the Bengal. I mean, you could add Joe Flacco, the number one quarterback on the last month, but he's on by like. I think he's Flacco. If Darnold's available field, sure.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you think about McCarthy? Are you guys adding McCarthy or are you not buying it.

[Craig Korobeck]

McCarthy to me is kind of a matchup base play. Clearly Baltimore who I think is actually a little bit better right now and defensively than their their numbers on like Yahoo would suggest.

[Danny Heifetz]

So I don't know if Darnold's available I'd take him first and if Mario's available I would take him second. And then, and then. Well no, there's a problem. Well, it's tough. Flacco, if he's available he could grab. He's the number one quarterback. That's four weeks he. The Bengals are going to be in the shootouts every week. You can add Flacco. I feel like he's probably taken. I don't know. But Flacco is worth it. If you need someone this week the problem is Justin Fields or to Rod Taylor either one. I don't know he's going to start. Aaron Glenn is making a game of it with the New York media about like who's going to play or not. He literally, he literally is like. It's so funny you guys keep asking, keep giving me the same answer. I don't know because part of me thinks he's going to go with Fields because they have the game winning game. I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

They got to. They don't feel like they have to.

[Danny Heifetz]

But to Rod Taylor had a knee issue. That is what kept him out. So it would suck if he couldn't run because honestly if you're the jets and you can't run he's not going to be good. But it was two weeks ago so he's probably fine if he's playing. But yeah, Fields is. If Justin Fields is the starter again every week Justin Fields like he's going to get you five points or 25. So there are options at quarterback. But it's weird because when the waivers go through you might go in and put a claim in for Fields and then it's Toronto so that's kind of odd but I would say you know Darnold, Mariota, Jets Guy McCarthy and then Flacco but he's in a different category because he's on by defenses. I think it's actually pretty simple. Seattle is still not rostered as much as I would think. I feel like Seattle has a top three defense of the NFL and they're kind of like half rostered on certain Yahoo platforms. I think that's just amazing to me. I would just add Seattle. You can have em all year. The Browns are just super available cause they were on by they're good defensive playing The Jets, Justin Fields draw Taylor Browns are super available. I would go get Cleveland, Buffalo cause they're playing Miami way healthier. I feel. It's just Buffalo just usually just really well against tua. And I know they didn't do amazing this season, but Buffalo, like, they're getting healthier. I would. I'm okay with Buffalo against TUA and Miami. And I would also say Baltimore, which again, seems yucky but getting healthier. And they're playing the Vikings. And J.J. mcCarthy, like, had some good throws, but overall wasn't asked to do a ton. And I do think the Ravens against the Vikings could be very lucrative with JJ McCarthy. So I think one of those teams available, Seattle, Cleveland, Buffalo, Baltimore, one of those teams are available. So I would go with one of those four. Any other thoughts on streamers for you guys?

[Danny Kelly]

Nope.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, let me do a couple emails. We'll get out of here. Okay, great email from Gabriel.

[Craig Korobeck]

Gabe G. Bone.

[Danny Heifetz]

So on the Sunday episode, I kind of had a whole rant about how socks. I just. I just don't know how to wear socks. And I feel like, I don't know, I just have no sock situational awareness. And it started with Craig talking about how he puts his socks on before his pants.

[Craig Korobeck]

Got a couple tweets saying they do that too. So I'm good.

[Danny Heifetz]

The polls are kind of like 50, 50. There are dozens of us.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, is it really the polls?

[Danny Heifetz]

50, 50. Yeah. Can I do pants and socks?

[Craig Korobeck]

You guys shamed me.

[Danny Kelly]

50, 50.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's just shocking, I think. I think. You know what's funny though, Craig, Everyone had the same reaction, which is just complete shock that people do it any other way than the way they do it. Just, people can't believe that.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, that's wild because, like, you're putting on your socks. Like, dude, when you're getting dressed.

[Craig Korobeck]

We got 1600 votes. Right now. It's 56 in favor of putting socks on first. 56. 43.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's amazing. This is.

[Danny Kelly]

I. That just. That's crazy.

[Craig Korobeck]

Join the dark wild dk.

[Danny Kelly]

I just, like, I don't put my socks on right away. Like, I'm walking around my house for a while with no socks on. It's bizarre. You put your socks.

[Craig Korobeck]

If you were getting out of the shower and then it was time to go get dressed to go out pants. Try socks next time.

[Danny Kelly]

And then because, like, my shoes are in a different room, I'm like, I get my socks, I go get my shoes, and then I put them on at the same time.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, interesting.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

What do you Do.

[Danny Kelly]

I just think it's wild.

[Craig Korobeck]

My socks are not in the same room as my shoes.

[Danny Kelly]

56 more people.

[Craig Korobeck]

First.

[Danny Heifetz]

DK.

[Danny Kelly]

What?

[Danny Heifetz]

Are your socks in the same room as your shoes? No, no, I know what TK means, though. I'm. Yeah. Well, anyway, so this is from Gabriel.

[Danny Kelly]

That's wild.

[Danny Heifetz]

Breakfast. So this is a quote. He says, my breakfast is Celsius and a vape. I know. Leave me alone. It's not even in the top 20 things they need to change.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm not even going to say it.

[Craig Korobeck]

But, you know, I want Celsius to sponsor a segment, and we have to scream the whole segment.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, that's.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's the bit we just yell the whole segment.

[Danny Heifetz]

I love that. He literally wrote, it's not even in the top 20 things I need to change about my life from starting his day with the Celsius. Invade.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay, okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

So Gabriel writes, I was today years old when I realized there were people in the world that put their pants on before their socks. That is psychotic. Simply put, it's easier to touch your feet when you're not wearing pants.

[Craig Korobeck]

Hell, yeah. Preach, Gabe.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right. Why don't you stretch? I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Anyway, so just picturing people walking around with those, like, sock suspenders. You know, the things back in the day that would, like, hold your socks up.

[Craig Korobeck]

Dude, those. I, I. Every time I wear a suit, I totally wish I had those.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, the suspenders?

[Craig Korobeck]

No, the sock suspenders, where they hold your socks up so they don't fall down. I completely understand why those exist.

[Danny Heifetz]

What's a sock suspender?

[Danny Kelly]

Heifetz doesn't know anything about socks.

[Craig Korobeck]

That's true. Google sock suspender. It's like, what you. I feel like you liken it to, like, movie characters. Yeah, yeah, but I get it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just, like, what, like, isn't this, like, they're the.

[Danny Kelly]

They're the least lingerie I've ever seen in my life.

[Danny Heifetz]

What is this?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, you just pin them around your shin to keep your socks from falling down throughout the day.

[Danny Kelly]

I really don't know anything about socks as a woman. Let's hear from the women of the listening audience here, which are probably like, six or seven. Email in and let us know if you were going to hang out with a guy and he took his pants on off and he was wearing that. Yeah, but how quickly do you leave?

[Craig Korobeck]

The answer to that question is just always. Are they hot?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. When hot people do it, it's cool.

[Craig Korobeck]

If Jacob Elordi was caught in those, they'd probably become incredibly popular.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

These things are.

[Danny Heifetz]

So we'll get Craig some socks defenders. Anyway, so Gabriel writes, I think Heifetz's sock rules meltdown is perhaps the most unhinged crash out in the history of the show.

[Craig Korobeck]

You clearly haven't been listening for very long.

[Danny Heifetz]

And Gabe Wright said, I feel compelled to release high effetes from this panic prison he's built for himself.

[Craig Korobeck]

Ooh, has he. Did he build a rubric here?

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, Gabriel writes, I am not a fashion expert. I am simply a stylish bisexual man. And this is tailored specifically to Danny Heifetz.

[Danny Kelly]

Nice.

[Danny Heifetz]

Rule number one, long pants and or boots. If people aren't going to see your socks, doesn't matter one bit.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

This guy assumes my pants are the right length, which right there, you know.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, you have to factor in that when you sit down, sometimes your socks are exposed.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. I have learned over the years. So Gabriel writes, rule number two, color matching light with light, dark with dark, black only with black shoes.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm like, okay. Rule number three, socks as an accessory. Here's the one upgrade you need to make to your wardrobe that's really going to open things up for you. Cute, colorful, patterned socks. White and black. Not nearly enough variety in your sock drawer. Fun socks always work as long as they have at least one common color with the rest of the outfit. They're perfect for a blue suit, brown shoes combo. I do have fun socks.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I have worn fun socks to the live shows.

[Craig Korobeck]

I think. I think fun socks actually work more with a suit than they do with regular clothing.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think that's true. So Gabriel finishes this with. Fun socks are also a great conversation starter. And we know Heifetz loves a conversation, so go nuts. Have fun with it. Heifetz, take literally any woman or gay man with you to a target. Drop 30 bucks on fun socks. You won't regret it.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay. Yeah, I have a sock brand that I'm in love with, but I'm not. I want to get them to sponsor the show. So I'm not even going to say.

[Danny Heifetz]

The name, but if you say the name, maybe they'll sponsor the show.

[Craig Korobeck]

So I should have said the name.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Stance. They make the best fucking socks.

[Danny Heifetz]

Stance.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, they're the best.

[Danny Heifetz]

Who is Stance?

[Danny Kelly]

What's so good about them?

[Craig Korobeck]

They are just the most comfortable socks. They last forever. Their athletic socks are phenomenal. Their regular socks are phenomenal. I love stance socks. They used to be like this official sock of the NBA. I don't know if they still are. They're the official socks of the MLB right now.

[Danny Kelly]

Mlp.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yes. Phenomenal socks. I hate.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, the NBA is how I got in the socks.

[Danny Kelly]

Nominal socks.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think my crisis of confidence started two years ago when John Wall. John Wall gave some random interview talking about how I think he was like. I think people who. I. I can't remember exactly what he said. He basically was like, people who wear socks and shoes that are different colors should be shot. He didn't actually say that, but I heard him say. He's like, I. I literally think people are crazy if your socks don't match your shoes. And I just. I think. I actually haven't been. I've had the yips ever since then. I'm on the site right now. There's kind of fun socks on.

[Craig Korobeck]

They're not cheap, but let me tell you, they will last you four times longer than whatever cheap socks you buy. So it'll end up being worth your money.

[Danny Heifetz]

See right here, there's so many lengths. Oh, my God. What is the mid calf.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, let's calm down. Do we need to email Gabriel again? Is it Gabriel?

[Danny Heifetz]

How tall do they go?

[Danny Kelly]

Just email Gabriel.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm going to email Gabriel. Fucking said Gabriel.

[Danny Kelly]

Sorry, is it Gabe or Gabriel? I couldn't remember.

[Danny Heifetz]

Gabriel, go to wide open. It's wide open. Socks.com.

[Danny Kelly]

Take this offline with Gabriel.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm telling you.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't need to.

[Danny Heifetz]

Gabe.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

There's so many. There's heights. What are these for?

[Danny Kelly]

Gabriel, Heifetz is going to call you at home. And then.

[Craig Korobeck]

Gabriel, Gabriel, please provide us with your phone number.

[Danny Heifetz]

Let's go to Target. This is like, there's so many lengths. There are. Which do I want?

[Danny Kelly]

Just pick one.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's been the problem.

[Danny Kelly]

Jesus Christ.

[Craig Korobeck]

It shows you how high up on your leg they go.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know which one is appropriate.

[Danny Kelly]

Just pick one.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's been the problem. Dk. Just pick one. And then people are like, those are wrong.

[Craig Korobeck]

You've had a girlfriend for a long time. What does she say?

[Danny Heifetz]

Fiance. She's just like, sorry.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm saying you've had a partner for a long time. What does she say?

[Danny Heifetz]

She's overwhelmed by this.

[Craig Korobeck]

Can she not advise you on your socks?

[Danny Heifetz]

She's supportive, okay? She's understanding. What are you talking about? She agrees. Like, this is a cry for help. She's like, yeah, you need help.

[Craig Korobeck]

Why doesn't she. Every time you get dressed, go wear those.

[Danny Kelly]

She's not getting. She's not holding his hand when he gets dressed.

[Danny Heifetz]

She's decided that she's gonna help me with my sock crisis. She's gonna take the wheel crisis. Gabriel and her. I sent this email to her. She was like, this is pretty great.

[Danny Kelly]

I agree, actually, with Gabriel now. This is the most unhinged thing you've ever done. It sucks.

[Craig Korobeck]

I know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I can't spend my time on this anymore.

[Danny Kelly]

Just pick one.

[Craig Korobeck]

On the scale of like, insignificant, which.

[Danny Heifetz]

Color because they have to match your pants.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't care. It doesn't matter.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just pick one.

[Danny Kelly]

You're thinking about it too much. You're doing too much.

[Danny Heifetz]

I get why Jim Harbaugh.

[Craig Korobeck]

You can wear white socks like 90% of the time.

[Danny Kelly]

Time.

[Craig Korobeck]

You'll be fine.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. You just got to do less.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. I don't even care what John Wall thinks. You John Wall?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. He might be listening too.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, John Wall, you, me up with the socks to match my shoes. What the.

[Danny Kelly]

Why can't you just match your socks with your shoes?

[Danny Heifetz]

Cuz you're supposed to match it with your pants. That's what someone else emailed in.

[Craig Korobeck]

And I'm like, factor in both. Do you guys think that a single professional athlete has ever listened to one second of our show by accident? For sure, for sure. I'm not talking about Instagram. I'm saying hit play on like Apple or Spotify or YouTube.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think certain athletes that we have talked have been sent segments of us talking. For sure. We about to talk. But I'm, I'm, I'm sure like, like Kurt, like active players.

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't know anyone. Anyone who's played professional sports.

[Danny Heifetz]

Honestly, if Ohtani was going to say yes, that'd be great.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Not Otani, probably, since he speaks English.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, one more eel here and get out of here. Well, actually, maybe just end of the socks could be this one tomorrow.

[Danny Kelly]

We got. We have to have a pallet cleanser. Come on, give me one more.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right, fine. This is a great update on just the general, like, hooking up stories we've been doing for the last couple weeks.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay, I'm.

[Danny Heifetz]

This is from. I'm gonna start. The guy didn't redact his name. I was like, I'm going to redact your name for you, buddy. You know who you are. Okay, so this is like 1996. This story. Pre Internet is essential. Emailers, like 22, 23 years old. He's working New York City. So at the time. Yes. Yeah, sorry, yeah. Yes.

[Craig Korobeck]

It would have to.

[Danny Heifetz]

In 1996, he would be quite zero then now like 50 years.

[Danny Kelly]

Craig, do you want me to get my calculator again. All right. Quite young. He'd be quite Young in 1996.

[Danny Heifetz]

So, yeah, so email is. I'm out in the East Village with coworkers. I meet someone. Place is dark, filled with smoke. She and I, we hit it off. Eventually the co workers are ready to move, so I told her I'm leaving. She says she would come along. We go to the next spot, back to someone's house, nightcap. Eventually, she comes back to my place with me. We hook up. And he literally writes, by hook up, I mean we have sex. Like, congrats.

[Danny Kelly]

Congrats on.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's like, I'm 22 years old, and let me tell you, this woman rocked my world. And it wasn't my first experience ever, but at the time, it was absolutely my best experience ever. And it's probably still like a top five sexual experience for me.

[Craig Korobeck]

And he's like, anyway, love the show.

[Danny Kelly]

Where's this going?

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, there's a reason I'm reading and I know it's a little. He says, she tells me I have potential, which I think is a little funny or weird. And she's so. So we hook up on and off for like several months. And it was quite. It was pretty casual. And he says, she taught me a lot, which made sense because I figured she was like 35.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

So late one Friday night, my.

[Danny Kelly]

He says, you didn't ever find out how old she was.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, he says, late one night, my paramour comes over. We hook up. She's in the kitchen the next morning.

[Danny Kelly]

I know it's my fuck buddy.

[Danny Heifetz]

She's in the kitchen the next morning, and she sees this Polaroid picture on my fridge or on the table. And it's like the Polaroids of my sister and step siblings.

[Danny Kelly]

And she says, oh, no.

[Danny Heifetz]

Picks up. She's like, what is this photo?

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh.

[Danny Heifetz]

And I'm like, is this my sister and our step siblings? She's like, are there names? And then gets the names right. And he's like, what the fuck? How do you know their names? She's like, these are my kids. What? Oh, he was fucking his stepfather's ex wife.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. Wait, so nothing wrong with that, technically.

[Danny Heifetz]

So his mom. Not related. Not related. It definitely kind of calculations.

[Danny Kelly]

Hold on, let me get out my calculator one more time.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay, so wait, the chill. So this woman's kids were like. They were young kids in the photo?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Yeah. So his mom divorced.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Marries a guy. Stepdad. Stepdad. Has a previous family as well. So all the stepchildren are like roughly the same age. But he never ended up meeting their stepmom. Like he never. It was like the Internet. Like pre Internet. Never even saw a photo of the stepmom. Like he had never.

[Craig Korobeck]

That makes sense.

[Danny Kelly]

Siblings. Mom.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's the.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, yeah. But his mom.

[Danny Heifetz]

His. Yes. Oh, but he had a relationship with the step like and he like.

[Danny Kelly]

Did he live in the same house with the step siblings for the extended period?

[Danny Heifetz]

No, they live with her.

[Craig Korobeck]

I don't like you saying her mom a lot. Don't say that. Have some decorum.

[Danny Kelly]

He made sweet, sweet love to their mom.

[Danny Heifetz]

To the paramore. Anyway, I thought this was unwind them dyed him 69.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh God.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh hell. That's okay then.

[Danny Kelly]

That is.

[Danny Heifetz]

So anyway, I didn't read this at.

[Danny Kelly]

The beginning, but the step siblings lived with the mom. So they. They didn't live together in the same house. Not that it really matters, but that's just like.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no, no, no, they did not. But I now I'll read you the beginning because I thought it would be too spoiled. But the beginning of this was. I can't believe I'm going to reveal this to your listeners, but I'm going to come clean to something I've told nobody. He's told we. He's never told anyone this. And I think he was like actually pretty excited because this is a 30 years ago. And he was like, I'm actually pretty excited to like finally share this and get this off my chest. And he says, you have full permission to tell the story. I am redacting his name. He's like, say my name. It's 30 years ago. I'm like, I'm not gonna say your name.

[Danny Kelly]

He wants you to say his name.

[Danny Heifetz]

He does say it. It's really unique and well, okay, 30.

[Danny Kelly]

Years ago he told you to say it. Why are you redacting?

[Danny Heifetz]

You just double check. He said, read my name.

[Danny Kelly]

I think you need to. You don't need to protect. He knows what he's doing.

[Danny Heifetz]

So wait, it's called is it starts calling B Bone.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's his mom's boyfriend's ex wife.

[Danny Heifetz]

His mom's. No, his mom's husband got married his mom's husband. Not his father's ex wife. His stepfather's ex wife.

[Craig Korobeck]

His stepfather's ex wife. Did they interact? I think more importantly, discovered in the family. How did he have a conversation with his stepdad? Like, hey, I see why you married Cindy. What a firecracker. Like, how did that go?

[Danny Heifetz]

Jesus, I'm glad.

[Danny Kelly]

Great. Have some Decorum.

[Craig Korobeck]

Firecrackers.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm glad you. I'm glad you asked that question, Craig. He said as soon as. Again, real. She's holding a photo of her kids and she's like, oh my God, these are your step kids. Your step brothers and sisters. He says, I think I went into a coma when she said this.

[Danny Kelly]

What did she do?

[Danny Heifetz]

He says, I literally don't remember anything else. I kind of came to and she was just gone. And I literally never saw her again. Wow. And then he never told anyone about.

[Danny Kelly]

She chloroformed him and left.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I guess that's fair that he said no one.

[Danny Heifetz]

I never told anyone about this until this show right now.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wow.

[Danny Kelly]

He kept that to himself.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. He says he's never told anyone this.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. Straight. Why are you telling us?

[Danny Heifetz]

Because it's clearly been weighing on.

[Danny Kelly]

Just wanted to get it off his chest.

[Craig Korobeck]

He didn't do anything wrong.

[Danny Kelly]

No, I don't think so either. No. It's definitely just like kind of an awkward thing with your step siblings.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's unbelievable bad luck. But nothing wrong.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, he had a good time, but yeah, no, it's pretty insane.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, think about the things that she taught him and a lifetime of lessons.

[Craig Korobeck]

Stepfather. They know the same moves.

[Danny Kelly]

Craig, don't do that. Oh, no, don't make that connection, Craig.

[Danny Heifetz]

Right.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

See, can you imagine this after? Because it is the key. It's not one time. It's like several months. And she's like, who are these? How do you know my children?

[Craig Korobeck]

So this woman must have been significantly younger.

[Danny Heifetz]

45.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, oh, not 35. She was 40.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was wrong about the age she was.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, she was 45.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was, yeah. He's 22 year olds, don't know how old people are. He's. He thought, he's like, he's the same way. 20. Ask a 22 year old at work, he's like, how old do you think I am? Like, you won't like the answer. Like they can't get anything right.

[Craig Korobeck]

I guess so.

[Danny Heifetz]

22 year old people, like, it's like they don't know how old people are.

[Danny Kelly]

Craig.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just.

[Craig Korobeck]

I'm like, I guess, like if I went to Kai and I was like, how old is Sean fantasy? Is Kai gonna be like 64? Get it relatively close?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know. Well, he was wrong is the point.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was dark.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I guess it was dark. They hooked up for months. Yeah, that's a trouble that is, that's.

[Danny Kelly]

An all time email right there.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Shout out, T Bone man. Okay. Thank you, dk. Thank you.

[Craig Korobeck]

Wait, before we go, I want to shout out. We just put up our rewatchables on Monday night with Glenn Powell. Yeah, we did the Truman show with Glenn Powell and it was great. He honestly crushed it. He was, he's the best celeb guest we've ever had. So go listen to that.

[Danny Kelly]

Boomtown.

[Danny Heifetz]

Not even a shameless plug. When I asked how it went, you said best celeb guest we've ever had. That was your actual reaction.

[Craig Korobeck]

Was clearly prepared. I, I, we had heard that he had listened to the show before. He was a fan of the show and it, he was not lying. He knew all the categories. Had like a full dock of notes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Did he know what Apex Mountain was?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, I mean, as best as anyone can.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's sick.

[Danny Kelly]

That's, that's, he's in on the bit. Yeah, yeah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Like he was like throwing out the jargon. He's like, oh my. Dion Waiters. Is this guy Joey Pants? Oh no, this is the Joey Pants. It was great.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right, well, there you go. Glenn Powell, rewatchables. Cool. Thank you dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you Glenn. Thank you to this guy for writing this email. It's incredible, dude. Thank you to Gabriel who just is going to be my sock consigliere going forward. I'm just going to email this from any store I'm at.

[Danny Kelly]

He doesn't know what he signed up for.

[Craig Korobeck]

Thank you to that maniac Luke. Is it Luke or Sean drinking the Athletic?

[Danny Heifetz]

Luke drinking the Athletic, the out. The combination of a sugar free 24 ounce monster and an alcoholic free beer at like 8 in the morning.

[Craig Korobeck]

He, I feel like he kind of figured it out.

[Danny Kelly]

I can't tell if this guy's just mainlining the secret his like secrets to the universe or what.

[Danny Heifetz]

Luke.

[Craig Korobeck]

Did Luke discover the secret sauce of the universe? I feel like he did. No sugar, no alcohol. But you're crushing beers and monster.

[Danny Heifetz]

What the.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's kind of on another level. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Tell people I don't drink alcohol and I don't have sugar.

[Craig Korobeck]

Imagine for breakfast he's on like a 9am Zoom call and he's like cracking the Athletic brewing. He's like so, so catch me up. Where are we at? Those numbers come in yet?

[Danny Heifetz]

Thank you Lord, Lord.

[Danny Kelly]

Thank you, Natasha Bedingfield.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my God. Dude, I think the wedding I was at this weekend, like when that song comes on Unwritten. Yeah, it's just Just it's. I think it's actually become borderline top 10. Maybe even a top five crowd pleaser for at least our specific age.

[Danny Kelly]

Really?

[Craig Korobeck]

It's really up there for white people. Wedding songs.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, the white people like gets white women going play. Which is always like a. Like if you're ever like struggling what to play. If you have to dj you just type in like songs that get white women excited. It's just like. Yeah, it always hits.

[Craig Korobeck]

I agree. Mr. Brightside for Men.

[Danny Heifetz]

Bright side for men.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, it is unwritten. Unwritten is bright side for also Craig.

[Danny Kelly]

That was an homage to your boy, though.

[Craig Korobeck]

Well, I was gonna say the title together. That song is featured heavily in Anyone but you. The Glen Pal rom com.

[Danny Kelly]

Is that why you did that?

[Craig Korobeck]

Nice. What do you like about that movie?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, what do you like about the movie dk?

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, I think it's a fun rom com. A lot of really good looking people that run around on the beach and whatnot.

[Craig Korobeck]

That is true.

[Danny Heifetz]

Loves, Greg.

[Danny Kelly]

Did you have any thoughts on.

[Craig Korobeck]

I think I don't know what you're talking about. Glenn Powell.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sal and I talked about it at length on the Friday gambling show. I thought it was really cool. She has a bob like. I like the haircut. I think. I think Sydney Sweeney's haircut was. Was a good look.

[Craig Korobeck]

I think there's a better rom com that Glenn Powell has been in than anyone but you. It's called Set it Up with him and Zoe Dutch. That movie's a better rom com. My opinion.

[Danny Kelly]

I need to see that.

[Craig Korobeck]

It's really good.

[Danny Kelly]

Set it up.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm not letting us get off this. I clicked on the Sydney Sweeney Instagram and I actually just looked through all my friends. I was like, who liked this? And I wanted. I actually. And I. I just looked through. I was like, what friends do I know that have like.

[Danny Kelly]

I think I could guess.

[Craig Korobeck]

I will never understand why people like those photos. You cannot explain it to me. It doesn't make sense.

[Danny Kelly]

They like the attention.

[Craig Korobeck]

From who?

[Danny Kelly]

Their friends. I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

So I'm going to throw someone under the bus and they have the power to remove this. No. I can. Because Carlos liked the photo and if he doesn't want that in the show, he can fucking delete it. Oh my God.

[Danny Kelly]

This is the greatest moment of my life.

[Craig Korobeck]

Why? I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Why?

[Craig Korobeck]

Why is she going to see it? What's the goal?

[Danny Kelly]

Because he liked it.

[Craig Korobeck]

Craig, it's free to look at. Does Carlos dare want to come on right now?

[Danny Heifetz]

Carlos gonna delete that. This shit's not making the show.

[Danny Kelly]

I genuinely have no idea what you're talking about.

[Danny Heifetz]

What? Which picture is this?

[Craig Korobeck]

What are you talking? Smart, smart. Play smart. Play. Deny, deny.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. The reason it took him so long to get here is because he had to go.

[Danny Heifetz]

He had to go online.

[Danny Kelly]

He's like, get rid of the paper trail.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Internet doesn't forget. Hold on. Did I screenshot this? I think I did. Let's see here. Which pck. What? Which one are you talking about?

[Danny Kelly]

Sydney Sweeney. Heard of her?

[Danny Heifetz]

Any of them?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I follow her. I think. Yes, I do.

[Danny Kelly]

25 million followers.

[Craig Korobeck]

So you're telling me there's a chance.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, I'm wrong. He does.

[Danny Kelly]

He's definitely not Carlos.

[Craig Korobeck]

You're wrong. He didn't like the photo.

[Danny Heifetz]

He follows her.

[Craig Korobeck]

Oh, high Fitz.

[Danny Kelly]

There's a very big difference.

[Danny Heifetz]

Damn. Thought I had him.

[Danny Kelly]

That was good. Oh, my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I'm sorry. Confused. Even better. Brick Johnson liked it.

[Danny Kelly]

And you thought it was Carlos Johnson.

[Danny Heifetz]

He follows her.

[Craig Korobeck]

But yeah, you know, Rick Johnson might be in the same circles.

[Danny Heifetz]

For all we know, Rick Johnson should, like. Rick Johnson should actually slide in. Like, that would be.

[Danny Kelly]

Anyone's gonna like that. It's someone named Brick Johnson.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Brick Johnson should, in fact, slide in. That would be smart. All right, Carlos, I'm sorry to slander you.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. Jesus.

[Danny Kelly]

He left.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's gone.

[Danny Kelly]

He's unloader.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm just trying to figure out if.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm, like, gonna remove this conversation from the bottom.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my God, that's so funny. Okay, all right, well, wrong again.

[Danny Kelly]

If it's confused Brick Johnson and Carlos.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, no, it's because I had the photo, and it was like I confused that. The followed by tab and the like tab, and I guess I'm a boomer. I wanted to believe. All right, well, God, that was good. Carlos is going to make me look like an idiot in this edit. And every edit going forward.

[Danny Kelly]

He has that power.

[Danny Heifetz]

He does. All right, well, should never call them out. Yeah, I guess we should do something now for when he edits that all out.

[Craig Korobeck]

Right? Right. So check out. Set it up, dk. It's a good run.

[Danny Heifetz]

Check out, Set it up. Great movie.

[Craig Korobeck]

Lucy, Lou, Tay, Diggs, Zoe, Dutch. Who's great in it?

[Danny Kelly]

I'm in.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wait, also, what's the thing he's promoting? He's promoting Chad Powers. What is he.

[Craig Korobeck]

No, he's promoting the Running man, which comes out in a couple weeks.

[Danny Kelly]

Nice remake of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Right?

[Craig Korobeck]

It's a remake of the Schwarzenegger movie, but it's based on a Stephen King book. Apparently. The Schwarzenegger movie is really not at all super close to the book, but this movie apparently is much more authentic to the book.

[Danny Kelly]

Who else is in it?

[Craig Korobeck]

Josh Brolin.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, Edgar Wright. Oh, this is the Edgar Wright movie?

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, the Glen Powell movie. Michael. Sarah.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, that's interesting.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, Sean Hayes. Colman Domingo. Josh Brolin. Damn. Okay.

[Craig Korobeck]

Okay. Here we go.

[Danny Kelly]

Check it out.

[Craig Korobeck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

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