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Danny Hince
Welcome to the Ring of NC Football Show. My name is Danny Hince and I'm joined by Danny Kayleen, Craig Korobeck and we are going over all the players to add after week eight. Entering into week nine of the NFL season made it through the bipocalypse. The six teams were off. Gonna go through all the players you need cause there definitely is some stuff we have to hit. We are gonna go over Monday night Football. Chiefs destroyed the commanders 28 to 7. It was not as bad as it seemed and also it was just a totally outclassing of a game. We also some emails here at the end. Fantasy courts. I'm sure Craig and I are gonna argue but full disclosure right off the jump.
DK
We're doing fantasy court on this show or Power Hour.
Danny Hince
Oh yeah, right. Sorry. I guess we'll do it tomorrow. I already lost track. I don't know. I've just kind of been itching to talk about that all week. We'll get to it. There we go. Tease for fantasy court. But I have to be up front right now. We're recording this. The World Series is on right now. We're going into the ninth inning, Vlad is just up and we're. We're trying to be polite to both.
DK
Five to five tie game. Yeah.
Danny Hince
Sasaki's pitching to Vlad as we speak. We were trying to be polite to Carlos who has to stay up to do this whole show. Also, dk, who's literally baseball team was eliminated by the Blue Jays and doesn't really want to watch this game, so.
DK
Well, that's true. Come on. This is good stuff.
Danny Hince
It is true.
DK
Come on.
Craig Korobeck
You're putting words in my mouth. I definitely do want to watch the game. Game.
Danny Hince
Oh, okay. Well, anyway, Ohtani's in the bottom of the ninth and we're just going to like, that will just be interwoven throughout this and if there's some ending, then like that, that's cool. That will come up later. So with that said, I want to get this Monday Night Football game again. Commanders lost 28 to 7 to the Chiefs in Kansas City. DK, I feel like there's a lot to talk about right now with. I mean, where the Chiefs go, We're Washington Ghost. But honestly, for real life and fantasy, I do think the story of this game is that Rasheed Rice is just unbelievable and just really has just changed the entire vibe of the Kansas City Chiefs offense.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, I mean, he has absolutely hit the ground running. It's like, you know, he only played. I think it was like 47% of the snaps last week. And then he just came in and had nine catches, 93 yards and touchdown. He probably. He. He came close to having three touchdowns.
Danny Hince
He should have two more feet would.
DK
Have gone inches away. Two more feet more inches, he would have had two more touchdowns.
Craig Korobeck
He was right for the pylon twice, or I should say he dove for the goal line on one and his. I think his elbow came down literally like an inch before the ball crossed over the goal line. And then again later, he went for the pylon. His foot was just barely out or whatever. So he, He. He's. He looks like just an absolute, you know, difference maker for them, game changer for them, their offense and what he does over the middle of the field, run after the catch, all that stuff.
DK
The big winners right now are the people who, who got him in drafts, spent whatever he cost, five, ten bucks, and survived the first six weeks of the season until he came back. What's nice about Rasheed Rice is that it feels like he is a little bit script proof because he's not just a singular talent like a jamar chaser, a CD lamb. Where you could in theory double him and it's like, oh what can you do? He's not really the type of guy you can do that for, I feel like. And the Chiefs find ways to get him the ball differently than just like a true number one who can get doubled down the field. Like Rasheed Rice is doing half the shit he's doing behind the line of scrimmage. They're giving him handoffs. Everything is engineered to get him the ball.
Craig Korobeck
So.
DK
So he's a little bit more defense proof than I would say other guys in the top 10.
Danny Hince
In a way he's replaced Travis Kelsey in the offense in that all like Eddie Reid as good as anyone is. Just get the ball to your good players in their hands however it comes. Rashid Rice has replaced Kelsey as the guy that Andy Reid is getting the ball at the goal line on third short like the whole off. I mean the fact that they're do they ran against the Raiders. They ran what I just think of as the Kelsey play where basically to have Mahomes do a little shovel pass that basically is like run blocked inside. They did that for she Rice couple weeks ago. This game, everything they're doing. I totally agree Craig, but I think next, I think next year in fantasy Rasheed Rice is going to be a first shot pick. Like I think that's the level he's at. I think that it's going to be like Jamar, you know, in terms of just pure. And it's funny because it's not even clear how good Rashee Rice is as a receiver outside of this team. Like he's not Jamar Chase. He's not just a Jefferson. He's not an elite wide receiver that would be dominating on almost any situation in the NFL that isn't like the jets. But in this specific team, fantasy wise, next year I think it's gonna be like Jamar Chase and Justin Jefferson and CD Lamb and Puka Nukua and like Rashi Rice is going to be like the fifth receiver. He's going to be right there with the Monroe and all these guys entering next season. Like that's how good he's going to be the rest of this year.
Craig Korobeck
It reminds me a little bit of Debo Samuel in this. In the way that the 49er used him. I Debo's more built more like a running back than Rasheed Rice is, but just in the way that they manufacture touches and and basically build their offense around this guy's talents. It just kind of has that vibe to him. He could See him being an all pro at some point in his career, especially if, you know, he sticks with the 40 or with the Chiefs just because they clearly have a role for him and a plan for him every game.
DK
It's funny, though, Heifers. You're right about, like, I don't know how good he actually is. It's. It's very bizarre. It's like. It's almost like the Chief saw him and we're like, you know what? You're good enough where we can make this work with you. Because if he was on a different team. Debo Samuel, dk. When Debo was in his prime on the Niners, he looked unlike any other receiver in the league. And with what he was willing to, like, was able to do with the ball in his hands like his, he couldn't go down. He had, like, a Marshawn lynch ability to just, like, fight through tackles. I don't really know if somebody said, describe Rashee Rice's style. Like, what is he amazing at? I don't even really know if I could tell you.
Craig Korobeck
It's like finding space in against zones.
DK
I guess you're right. It's like Travis Kelsey. He can sit in zones and find pockets and maneuver.
Craig Korobeck
This is what we talked last year, Craig. I think we literally had this conversation last year where I was like, what? Why can't every receiver do what Rasheed Rice does? You know what I mean? Like, I just think it's funny because he's running these little routes over the middle of field where they're getting him open, like, scheming him ways to get the football. I just. You know what I mean? Maybe it is just the fact that he makes it look so easy, that it looks so easy, but there are just times where I'm like, man, it. I don't know. I don't understand, like, why everybody can't do this, what he's doing.
Danny Hince
So I, I, it's funny if, I mean, if you swapped rasheed rice and McLaurin, you know, I, I'm not sure that Rashid Rice would necessarily. I mean, Cliff Kingsbury might actually have a good idea of using him. It's funny that Debo's in this game, frankly. The whole game pivoted off Debo because the Washington had an awesome first drive, and then they had a ball bounce off Debo's face that was intercepted. This game basically started with five turnovers. Like, it really, if you include turnovers on downs. This game started with Washington having the pickoff Debo's face, then mahomes had to pick Marshall and Lattimore had an amazing interception. Then Washington went turnover on downs. I appreciated they went aggressive. But then Mahomes had another pick that also bounced off of Kelsey's face. Then Washington had another turnover on downs. So it was five straight back and forth and back and forth turnovers. And then big Chiefs just ran away and they got their offense going and, and again, it was 28 to 7. I, I, I was very impressed with Washington's running game in this, sorry, Kansas City's running game. Like Kareem Hunt. I mean, I was kind of like, what year is it? Like Kareem Hunt running downhill.
Craig Korobeck
He looked like vintage Kareem Hunt at times.
Danny Hince
It was, you know, he's not obviously not quite as fast as he was in 2018, but he's certainly the fastest and most explosive I've seen Kareem Hunt feel like in years. Obviously Washington doesn't have a great defense. They lost. Oh no. The defensive tackle, I'm forgetting his name. He went in the middle of this. Javon Kinlaw, the massive guy who's been disappointing for the jets and Niners. But like, but he, he left and then it got even worse. I will say though, during this game I had an intrusive thought and I kind of think I'm right.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
But watching this game, you know, obviously Bill's Chiefs is next week. Dk but I kind of just think the super bowl is going to be Chief Seagulls again.
Craig Korobeck
God.
Danny Hince
And I realized that in the middle of this game.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, yeah. I will say at the beginning of the game, I was watching this game with my dad and we were both like, ah, the commanders kind of showing they're a little plucky in this game. They're, you know, hanging in there for a while and then the Chiefs just slowly ground them into dust, which is what they kind of do. And so yes, at the end of the day, I mean, the Chiefs there are. In a league where there's no elite teams. Are there any elite teams that you guys can think of other than maybe the Colts?
Danny Hince
I think it's the, I think it's the Chiefs. We didn't talk about Mahomes tonight, but Mahomes is just so quietly his brilliance is just, I, you know, I, I mean, I think at Troyman did a good job explaining it of he just his navigation in the pocket. I was shocked at that stab they had tonight of the first time he said three touchdowns in a game with four seconds on each touch. Four seconds of time. I think I, I'm dubious of that. I, I feel like he threw 50 touchdowns in one season. I'm a little dubious. He never had four seconds in any individual game but for each of the three touchdowns. But I was really impressed at Kansas City. Like Trey Smith, the right guard, he's, I mean, one of their higher paid linemen. He wasn't even in this game. We had poor. What's the guy who filled in the Super Bowl. We kept thinking fun of his name, Mike Caliendo. We kept thinking he was the impersonator guy. You know, I want to see it against, but it's not like Buffalo's defense is healthy either, so. I don't know, man. The Chiefs, I just feel like they're.
DK
Going to roll before we move on. I have one note to make. I feel like the Monday night guys are often immune to the burn book because we do burn book Sunday nights. They're kind of. They fall in this no man's land where we kind of forget about it by the time the next week rolls around. Bill Merritt, I feel like got so much hype coming into this year. Then Eckler got her all this stuff. Bill Merritt, since week one has scored single digit points in every single game but one. His last three weeks are two points, three points, five points. I don't know. He's kind of unplayable right now.
Danny Hince
Yeah, I know, but he's such a meme. He can't bench Bill Merritt. Come on, man.
Craig Korobeck
Nine rushes for 25 yards.
Danny Hince
It's not great Chiefs defense, man, but it's not.
DK
I mean, they played Dallas last week. He had 33 yards rushing.
Danny Hince
Yeah, that was bad. That wasn't good.
DK
He's not doing it. I don't. It's not working for Bill.
Danny Hince
We'll see.
Craig Korobeck
It's hilarious because it's like it feels like you can't sit him even though he's a fucking like seventh round guy that just came in and he hasn't even actually done all that much because I think all the hype was just like, oh, you can't sit Bill Merritt. Crosby Merritt, jcm. You got a JCM nickname. You can't sit that guy, Bill.
Danny Hince
I mean, similarly, Terry McLaurin, three catches, 54 yards for a touchdown. The ratio of how unbelievable what he did was versus impact was, was kind of weird. The touchdown was, I think, as close as you can possibly get to getting two feet in. I don't, I don't know if there's ever been a smaller amount of time someone got the two feet in than the touchdown McLaurin had. The other one I kind of thought was bullshit. It was really cool and I'm glad that he got the catch. But watching live, it was definitely a catch. I know, but watching it live, I'm like 80% of his body laid it out of bounds and do it slow. Mo, you're like, yes, his leg actually got in first. But you played full speed. And I'm like, I never. Maybe you guys saw it differently watching that play full speed. I never would have even occurred to me that Terry said no.
DK
I thought he was out of bounds, but I mean, his thigh clearly comes down. First down.
Craig Korobeck
Because it looks bad in full motion. It's bullshit. Well, this is like clearly see it on the replay.
Danny Hince
It reminded me of. It's because the catch thing. And this gets confused about this whole.
Craig Korobeck
Do this rule that you're bringing up.
Danny Hince
Well, it's because someone. We don't have to get into all this now. It's. They lost by 21 points.
Craig Korobeck
But yeah, it's kind of irrelevant actually.
Danny Hince
It doesn't really matter anyway.
Craig Korobeck
We'll get into one knee equals two feet.
Danny Hince
Should we even talk about this Dodgers game now or should we wait?
Craig Korobeck
It's going to the bottom of the ninth here.
DK
It's pretty. And Ohtani's up second.
Danny Hince
I will just. I mean, we might as well set the stage down. Cause maybe the Dodgers lost or whatever. But win or lose, this is. I mean, Ohtani, I mean, I will just read the stuff, but everyone's probably seen it by now. But Ohtani, I mean, feels it's pretty mainstream at this point to say he's the best baseball player ever. And it's now just. The resume has to build. But tonight, four extra base hits tied for the most in a World series game since 1906, which is even longer than the tungsten Armo Doyle post.
DK
I was, I gotta say that stat. I was a little bummed at who, who he. Whose record he broke or who. Who he tied. 1906. It was Frank Isbell. I was hoping for something a little bit stronger than that.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, same.
Danny Hince
Yeah, that. That. That's no good.
Craig Korobeck
Who was on Frank Isbell's team? Craig?
DK
Well, that.
Danny Hince
Oh, yeah. Pull that up.
Craig Korobeck
Look that up.
Danny Hince
Ohtani also first player with three multi home run games in a single postseason as a batter. He pitches tomorrow. He's the first hitter to have three home. Multiple home run games.
DK
Three home run.
Danny Hince
Multiple home run games in the postseason, and he's pitching.
DK
The best part about it is they were like, they had the graphic up about all the crazy things he's doing as a hitter. And then at the bottom it just said he's pitching tomorrow.
Danny Hince
Pitching tomorrow. It's, it's, it's actually like, I know that we're getting repetitive and I've talked about this forever, but I'm like, this is the craziest thing that's happened in my life in sports. I don't think that's unfair to say he's the best player, he's the best hitter.
DK
It's. And it's no Tani's contract. Did I say this already? It's easily the best contract in baseball.
Danny Hince
It has to. No, I think it's the best. It's up there with the best contracts in the history of sports because it's gonna save fucking baseball. Ohtani's gonna save the goddamn sport. And they don't even have to pay him all the money until, like, we're gonna be dead.
Craig Korobeck
Somebody. Somebody retweeted a tweet onto my timeline that was like. So they. He. He comes up in what was at the top of the. Or the bottom of the seventh and it's five to four Blue Jays and they have this like conference on the mound. Like, okay, yeah, yeah, here's the deal. Don't throw a meatball right down the middle.
Danny Hince
The. The announcer literally is going, location, location, location.
Craig Korobeck
This tweet, the tweet just shows like the pitch whatever graph, and it's truly just right in the middle, middle, middle.
DK
It's like, oh, daddy center.
Craig Korobeck
Why are you fetching it right down the.
Danny Hince
Oh, my God, that guy. But I think DK to your point, I do think Ohtani reached the Tom Brady level that you. You've nailed and is so true. The Alexander great. Like, I don't think he could die where it's like all these guys, the irrational, crazy confidence that you're better than this person in baseball in particular, because it is a series of one on one matchups and Ohtani shatters it. Ohtani is like Barry Bonds. They're probably the only two people who've been good enough that the pitcher is like, oh my God, this is like he's a superhuman.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Like he's the type of guy where if the bases are loaded, you block him instead of pitch to him kind of.
Danny Hince
Well, I'm realizing real excited. But there's no way they're going to pitch to him right now. Right. Do they are. So this is the 9 hitter right now.
DK
Probably.
Danny Hince
So they got.
DK
Probably not.
Danny Hince
Even if P gets Up. They're gonna walk Otani. But, yeah, I mean, I guess Bets struck out the last time he was up, so actually, I guess now that I think about it, we're not going to get. Watch this hit.
DK
Can I. Can I give one. Take that I. That I noticed or that I just kind of felt. It kind of just came to me as I was watching Ohtani hit that home run in the seventh. I think the pitch clock has been fantastic for baseball in arguably just. Just a straight positive. It's improved the game tenfold. However, after the home run, I would like to sit in it a little more.
Danny Hince
I totally agree. I was shocked at how quickly Betts was getting pitched to after the home run. I was shocked.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, yeah. This is the thing. It's like you. The players can barely even celebrate with each other because you have to get back into.
DK
I get 30 seconds, I think, after Ohtani hits home plate or something like that, or. And it's. It's just like, I want to see. You don't even get the replay because. Mookie.
Danny Hince
I agree. They should make it a minute after home run.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, totally. That would be. Totally. Yeah, that would be great.
Danny Hince
So weird to not marinate in that moment. I actually.
DK
In the playoffs or maybe in the last three innings or I don't know what. But, like, give us some time here to enjoy it. Like.
Danny Hince
Well, he's like.
Craig Korobeck
If you look into it or.
Danny Hince
Yeah, like adding 30 seconds after. Yeah. After homer. I think that's a great point, Craig. I had this. I had the same note.
DK
Were we aware that the. Were we aware of the original name of the Chicago Cubs? Did I forget this?
Craig Korobeck
I don't know.
Danny Hince
Bears was the Decatur Stales. The Chicago Cubs were. Oh, wait, Der. It's the Chicago Red Sox.
DK
No. Frank Isbell, who's nicknamed the Bald Eagle due to his receding hairline.
Craig Korobeck
Hell, yeah.
DK
Was drafted in 1898 by the Chicago Orphans.
Danny Hince
The Orphans. Get the fuck out. The Chicago Orphans.
DK
Yeah. He made his debut for the Chicago Orphans on May 1, 1898.
Danny Hince
The Chicago Orphans. The Chicago Orphans.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
That's pretty. That's pretty metal.
Craig Korobeck
You could get away with a lot of stuff back in 1906.
DK
Yeah. That's wild.
Danny Hince
Who is the. I mean, who was the manager for the 1898 Chicago Orphans? That's crazy.
Craig Korobeck
He just read Oliver Twist. He's like, these guys are badasses. Let's name our team after them. Oh, the Artful Dodger. Is that how the Dodgers got their name?
DK
Holy. Actually, 1898 Chicago orphan season.
Craig Korobeck
Okay. By the way, we are. We are 100% just stalling so we can see.
Danny Hince
Okay. Yeah, we can just. Yeah, that's true.
Craig Korobeck
That's just in case you were wondering.
DK
Anyway, the. The. The national league winner in 1898 was the Boston Bean Eaters.
Craig Korobeck
Wow. What?
Danny Hince
Yeah, the Bean Eaters.
DK
Bean Eaters. So, okay, dude, all these names this. The National League, the Washington Centers, the Brooklyn Bridegrooms.
Danny Hince
What are you talking about?
Craig Korobeck
I like that a lot.
Danny Hince
What do you mean? The Brooklyn Bridegrooms.
DK
The Cleveland Spiders. Did we know that one?
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, that one.
Danny Hince
Yes, that one. I think there was.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, no, that's Richmond Spiders.
Danny Hince
Yeah, same thing, though. These think they pitcher, long legs.
DK
Brooklyn Bride.
Craig Korobeck
Bridegroom.
Danny Hince
1880 Brooklyn Bridegroom.
Craig Korobeck
Wow. Is the bridegroom just the long way of saying groom, or does it mean something specific?
DK
Well, here. Here we go. The Brooklyn. They under. They were called the Brooklyn Grays. They changed their name to the Brooklyn Bridegrooms, a nickname that resulted from several team members getting married around the same time. Men.
Danny Hince
That's so funny. They put no effort to it.
Craig Korobeck
I don't know.
DK
We all like turkey sandwiches for lunch. What if we're just the Brooklyn Turkey Sandwiches?
Craig Korobeck
You got to remember, Craig, back in the day, this was just kind of for people to hang out in the middle of the day.
Danny Hince
All right, they're not even pitching you Atani. Maybe because Jeff Hoffman allowed the most runs in the ninth and evening.
DK
Oh. So just one final thing. You're right.
Craig Korobeck
1.
DK
Before we get to waivers, the manager of the Brooklyn Bridegrooms in 1888 was Bill McGonagall.
Danny Hince
Bill McGonagall.
DK
McGonagall.
Craig Korobeck
McGonagall.
Danny Hince
The Bridegrooms is pretty. That's the bridegroom.
Craig Korobeck
Brooklyn Bridegroom.
Danny Hince
So I got married around the same time.
DK
The Brooklyn bridegrooms versus the Chicago orphans. Today, hopefully, the bridegrooms adopt the orphans.
Craig Korobeck
You got a stew going.
Danny Hince
Bridegroom versus the brides versus Orphans.
Craig Korobeck
Bringing families together.
Danny Hince
Oh, my God. It's funny because the orphans probably ate beans. We're going to keep rolling here, but first, this episode is brought to you by ikea. When you're hosting on game day and it comes to cooking, you want a kitchen that everyone there will be a fan of. No matter what your kitchen dreams are, IKEA has products and solutions to help. From kitchen remodels to smart new cutlery. Whatever the size of your kitchen, dream and budget, you can bring it to life with high quality, expertly designed and innovative products. From IKEA. Visit IKEA US DreamKitchen to learn more. Dream the possibilities. This episode is brought to you by United Airlines. Flying just got easier with the United Airlines app. Get real time flight updates like a live countdown clock to boarding, even if your screen's locked, as well as play by play directions through the airport with a personalized map. And if you want to make a game time decision and go home early or stay longer, there are no fees to change your flight. Get the united app@united.com Apple no fees to change your flight. Excludes basic economy applies to flights originating in the U.S. fare difference may apply. OK, waivers.
Craig Korobeck
Let's do this.
Danny Hince
Let's go through all the waivers after week eight, entering week nine. Oh my God. Ohtani just tried to steal. Is he out? Oh, he's out.
DK
Oh, you're ahead of me.
Danny Hince
Oh, he's out.
DK
Why are you ahead of me?
Danny Hince
Oh, I don't know. Sorry. I think I gotta fix that with streaming.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, my God.
DK
Wow, he's out.
Danny Hince
He kind of. That was weird.
Craig Korobeck
He was on. He. He made it, but then he fell off the base. All right, let's not give a playback yesterday.
Danny Hince
Yeah, yeah, I know. Okay, so we're gonna go position by position. We're gonna give our top pick at that position and then if we have the same guy, then we're gonna go through waivers and we're gonna like simulate waivers by guessing. A trivia question is get an order and then if you don't get your guy, you get to pick someone else. It's not that complicated. You'll figure it out. Email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com for trivia questions. Has to be a number so we can get wrong in an order. Closest to the green, basically. Closest to the pin, rather. So with that said, DK running back. Number one running back that you would add off waivers after week eight entering week nine.
Craig Korobeck
Well, I'm sorry to say that it's going to be Tyrone Tracy for the Giants because unfortunately our boy Scatter Boo is out for the season. Also, there are several guys on Buy going into Buy for week nine that I probably might prioritize more if I have a longer time horizon that I'm looking at here. But just for week nine, I'm going with Tyrone Tracy.
Danny Hince
Yeah. Like if you have Saquon and Quinn, Sean Judkins, and they're both on Buy this week and you're like, I need someone now, then I. And Tracy's available. Absolutely. Also the whole season. But if he's available.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, He. He definitely has value for the rest of the season, but I think.
Danny Hince
Did you see Big Dom brought, like, cheesesteaks to Kim Scabo in the hospital? I thought this was fake. People sent this to me. Really? I was like, that's clear.
Craig Korobeck
That's what you want to be eating post op? Honestly, cheese steaks.
Danny Hince
Get whatever. Whatever you want. At post, I thought this was fake, but Chef salad it.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, I guess I'm. I guess I don't know why that was weird. Yeah.
Danny Hince
What are you eating post op? What are you eating on a regular day?
Craig Korobeck
That's fair. I don't know. Whatever he can eat, he can eat it. I'll allow it. I don't really like cheesesteaks.
DK
He could eat garbage. He'd be fine.
Danny Hince
You don't like bacon? Okay. You don't like bacon.
Craig Korobeck
She's garbage. As far as I'm concerned, cheesesteaks are garbage.
DK
Oh, what the.
Danny Hince
What are you doing right now?
Craig Korobeck
I'm sorry.
Danny Hince
I will besmirch Philadelphia, one of the.
DK
Most beloved items of food. I know.
Craig Korobeck
That's why it's such a good take.
Danny Hince
I.
DK
You don't like cheesesteaks? That real?
Craig Korobeck
I really don't.
DK
Really?
Craig Korobeck
No. But you know how I am. I'm weird.
DK
DK has wild, basically a quesadilla in sandwich form. No, it's just cheese meat.
Danny Hince
It's the same thing. It's carbs.
Craig Korobeck
Totally different.
Danny Hince
Wild food tastes. Also.
Craig Korobeck
I don't put freaking meat in my quesadillas.
DK
Okay, but you know what? A steak quesadilla.
Danny Hince
You do. The way you just said that was like, as if that's insane to put meat in a quesadilla.
DK
No, I'm just saying that is basically a Mexican cheesesteak. Let's be honest, or whatever. A cheesesteak is an American.
Craig Korobeck
I don't like steak quesadillas either. All right?
Danny Hince
But that also is just. I. I'm not. DK gets defensive when I talk about this, but I'm just saying. What about a cheese quesadilla? What about that? You love that. You have that literally every day for, like, a decade. What about introducing steak into that? You're like, not for me. Like, you don't like.
Craig Korobeck
It messes up the flavors, messes up the texture.
Danny Hince
I get why you wouldn't do that every day. It's expensive.
Craig Korobeck
Steak is, like, a little tough, especially the. The type of steak you put in quesadillas.
Danny Hince
But you see, you think it makes it worse, correct?
Craig Korobeck
No. If I. If I thought it made it Better. I'd probably eat it.
Danny Hince
I know. I just. That's just interesting.
Craig Korobeck
Why would it say but you like steak? Correct.
Danny Hince
All right, cool.
DK
To each their own.
Danny Hince
Yeah. Anyway, I want to. I can't wait for dk. Big Dom's gonna bring DK some cheesesteaks. He's like, get the out of my room. All right. Anyway, just give me a Tyrone Tracy too. So Craig, I assume you did too. If Tyrone Tracy's available, I know he may not be in your league.
DK
Yes, I did. Tyrone Tracy, who I. Yeah, I mean, you get the long term benefit. Obviously Cam Scadwood being out. I doubt the Giants are going to go ads get somebody who's going to fill in and be a full time starter ahead of Tyrone Tracy. I feel like they're not at that. They're not at that stage of the season where they would probably need to prioritize that. So I feel like it is just going to be Tracy the rest of the year. The only other guy I thought about, he's not necessarily. I don't know if he's going to come back next week. He. He in theory could, but Trey Benson for the Cardinals is like his four weeks are up. So. So as somebody who could like be a factor the rest of the way.
Danny Hince
Trey Benson. I think with Trey Benson, I'm curious you guys think in the leagues I'm in, I think roster ship's weird with like IR spots. I think any league where you have an IR spot, Trey Benson's probably on IR if he's available.
DK
I guess that's true. That's true.
Danny Hince
It's weird in between.
Craig Korobeck
I think let's, let's not include Trey Benson in this exercise. But I think it. He is definitely worth picking up if he's out there.
Danny Hince
If you need someone for week nine, Bam Knight, Z Knight, depending what platform you're on. Bam Knight is I think a great option. Like he kind of surpassed Michael Carter. The buy happens. So you never know exactly what teams are doing. But Trey Benson can't come back this week. I still think Bam Knight will be the leader. And again they're. The Cardinals are playing Dallas like that's wheels up. Other obviously than Bill Merritt, the odds of just getting a touchdown are pretty solid. So I think Bam Knight, if you again, if you have like both running backs at by and you're really desperate, I think Bam Knight's a great option and if Trey Benson's available, you can maybe trade throw Trey Benson in your IR get both. Having said that, Tyrone Tracy. So is it Tyrone Tracy shared on time.
Craig Korobeck
Ooh.
DK
Yeah. Unfortunately hit. Sorry about that. But it is in fact time for the Tyrone Tracy, a guy that everybody kind of liked last year showdown time.
Craig Korobeck
He definitely got market corrected by scattered.
DK
Big time like Isla Fisher and Amy Adams and then Jessica Chastain to Amy Adams.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
DK
That was a Jason Concepcion hottest take from like six years ago.
Danny Hince
It was pretty good. It was pretty.
DK
There can only be one prominent female redhead in Hollywood was his take.
Craig Korobeck
I like that. Makes sense.
Danny Hince
You like that?
Craig Korobeck
I mean, I appreciate the take. I don't like that. There can only be one.
Danny Hince
Needed to clarify.
Craig Korobeck
I, I would like if more redheaded women could be leading actresses.
Danny Hince
You know, this be a good time for more.
Craig Korobeck
I feel like you're, you're just constantly trying to trap me into saying something bad here.
DK
Trying to catch you in the cancel box.
Craig Korobeck
I know.
Danny Hince
This one's from Chris.
DK
Chris is SIBO owner.
Danny Hince
So Craig Porter on the A bone.
DK
True.
Danny Hince
It's a C. Okay.
Craig Korobeck
C bone.
Danny Hince
Craig pointed out pretty brilliantly on Sunday that Alvin Camaro. We don't really ever talk about that. His name's Alvin, which is just like bizarre. So Chris has a question. According to the Social Security Administration, how many baby boys born in the United States were named Alvin in 2024?
Craig Korobeck
This year or last year?
DK
Last year. Phenomenal question, Chris. Thank you.
Craig Korobeck
I like that. I have no concept of how many people are born in a year.
Danny Hince
I answer this very quickly and I wrote it down for this one.
Craig Korobeck
Okay, wait, sorry. What's the question? Is in the United States or in the world?
Danny Hince
In America.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
From last is tough.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
Not how many. To be clear, how many Alvins were in America last year? It's how many Alvins were bored last year?
Craig Korobeck
Right.
DK
Okay.
Danny Hince
All right. 3. 2, 1.
Craig Korobeck
5.
DK
2,000.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, God. I went, I said 50k.
Danny Hince
Wow. 50. That's a lot. That's.
DK
I don't know. Which means DK is probably right, as that's how these things go. I said 2000. Hyphen said 5000. DK said 50. 50,000.
Craig Korobeck
I feel like it's way too high.
Danny Hince
Real answer is 316.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, my word.
DK
My.
Craig Korobeck
That is way less popular than I could have even imagined. I thought he was going the other way with it.
DK
All right, so I, I, I steal that win thanks to Alvin.
Craig Korobeck
316.
DK
Hi, Vids. Did we get any emails from Alvin's?
Danny Hince
Oh, yeah, we did.
DK
Nice.
Craig Korobeck
They.
Danny Hince
Well, there's people who know Alvin got an Alvin who's like, I mean, we're just not that Big Craig, you think?
DK
How many can you. I want to Google on the spot. How many Craigs were named last year? I'm just curious.
Danny Hince
I could pull it up. Oh, no, we don't have any out. Oh, no, we. Oh, we do have an. Alvin emailed us.
DK
Oh, no.
Danny Hince
Typed in. Alvin emailed us last Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas, Alvin. You're just getting.
Craig Korobeck
Merry Christmas.
Danny Hince
I just found it. You find that Craig. I'll. I'll pick. Make a pick here. So if DK takes Tyrone Tracy. Yeah, I would. If I need a player this week, I would take Bam Knight even over Devin Singleton.
Craig Korobeck
I didn't win. I was way off.
Danny Hince
Oh, you. Sorry. Craig gets Tyrone Tracy. Good point. I'll take Bam Knight for the Cardinals just because I think if you have to have some play this week, I do think Bam Knight. When Trey Benson comes back. I have no idea what the role is. I honestly almost would have took Rashard Smith, who, Because Isaiah Pacheco limped off with like 90 seconds left in that game. But then the medical team checked him and then he just started hooping and hollering. Clearly. Fine. So, yeah, I'd really rather have Bam Night Devin Singletary. I just don't want to play him in my team for the next rest of the season. If you need someone for the rest of the season, you could go Singletary. He will probably have more playing time, but I'd rather have Bam Night for week nine than Devin Singletary. So it's okay. You get the rest of the litter.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Do we, do we want me to pick someone from week nine or talk about the guys that are also, like, down the line?
Danny Hince
We'll do both.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
So for this week and then for this week, I guess Luchas just went for it. Oh, on top of 10th. That was.
DK
Oh, wow. They didn't get it. Oh, geez.
Craig Korobeck
Got him out at home.
DK
Wow.
Craig Korobeck
Good throw from right field there.
DK
I, I. You know, it's funny, some, I couldn't tell who I wanted to win this series, but. But in that moment, I really didn't want the Blue Jays to score.
Danny Hince
So I feel that way, too. It's weird to root for the Dodgers because I don't. But part of me is like.
Craig Korobeck
Obviously, so the Mariners lost to the Blue Jays. Do you guys, typically, once you lose to a team, do you want that team to win the championship? Because then it validates.
DK
Then you can say, we lost to the champs.
Craig Korobeck
Right. Or do you want them to suffer hor.
DK
Horrific pain, usually that I.
Danny Hince
The prospect of spending so many days In a row rooting against the team. It's hard to recover from.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
DK
Also, like, I don't know how many conversations you actually have where you can say, well, at least we lost to the champs. And they're like, totally.
Craig Korobeck
I don't, Yeah, I don't think that's actually a thing. I don't, I don't think it makes any sense.
Danny Hince
It's a thing in college football. It's in college football because there's conference solidarity. So you do want your conference because then you, you end up talking about the Big Ten versus the SEC or whatever all the time.
DK
Sure, sure. Yeah.
Danny Hince
And you also literally do need it for polls and your team in the future getting playoff spots. But that logic has never extended to any of my other rooting interests. Like, I know the Yankees lose to the, like, no, the, I mean, the Yankees lost the js. I don't, I'm not, I, I, I'd rather the Dodgers win. And I don't, I know the Dodgers are probably bad for the sport, but also unfortunately, all their players are super likable. Like, I'm sorry, but Freddie Freeman Ohtani bets these are like the most likable best players in the entire sport.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, agreed.
Danny Hince
Sorry.
Craig Korobeck
All right, I'm gonna go with Taj Spears for the Titans. I guess getting back to the trivia, he's basically overtaken Pollard in terms of like snaps and rushes and targets or yesterday. Pollard has one more target over the last three weeks. But the problem with the Titans and this has been a problem with Pollard the whole year is they're always losing. And so Tajie Spears is getting more game scripted in because he's typically, you know, more of a pass catching type back. He looks really good. He's been explosive. He's average 11 points per game over the last three weeks. So I don't think he has a very high ceiling, but he gives you a little bit of a floor just because the Titans are always playing from behind and he's out there more than Pollard at this point. They get the Chargers this week and then they're on by.
Danny Hince
Do you want to run through stash guys for the rest of the season? Yeah, I think there's one way huge blinking red light, huge stash and then a bunch of other ones that could work out.
DK
Who's Are you talking about? Bigsby or Ollie Gordon?
Danny Hince
Tank Bigsby for the Dolphins. The fact that Saquon picked up groin injury. The Eagles are going to buy. So he's going to be fine for the next week. But just again, we've talked ad nauseam that like Saquon had 500 touches last year, has a groin injury, he's a running back. It's not hard. And if tank Bigsby had 100 yards this week, Saquon bar, you know, came out of the like, yeah, I. That the upside of when the guy actually gets the job is so frequently kind of disappointing, I think. I mean, the Eagles traded for Tank Bigsby. I think if Saquon gets hurt, Tank of all these guys where you're just doing the stupid fantasy thing of like if a guy gets hurt, I could profit. Tank Bigsby is like the highest return. I don't think it's particularly for sure.
DK
For sure.
Craig Korobeck
They actually ran the ball really well too. In that game. They were using a six offensive lineman. This was kind of a theme this week.
Danny Hince
This is a new thing that I've always wondered about and people always told me that's not a thing, that's stupid. And now I'm watching it, I'm like, why the fuck is this taking so long to have like eight plays a game with six offensive lineman?
Craig Korobeck
Well, the Lions did it a lot and they seem to do a pretty good job at that.
Danny Hince
The Bills last year were, were rolling with like, you know, just throwing in a six lineman every now and then.
Craig Korobeck
So yeah, Tank Bigsby is a great one to stash. Dylan Sampson for the Browns. Judkins went down and left the game. I believe they said he was day to day, which that never. I don't know what that ever means. That could mean like 30 days or what, you know, two days. So it's tough to know. But Dylan Sampson, if Quincha Judkins can't come back after their buy, he would be a big winner in that and he's gonna, he's gonna be utilized in the, in the passing game a lot.
Danny Hince
It's also shoulder injury. Like you know, those get worse when you're tackled right.
Craig Korobeck
Isaiah Davis for the jets just in case Breeze hall gets traded. They. The jets are also on buy in week nine. And then like if you really need to scrape the bottom of the barrel here. Ollie Gordon for The dolphins had 10 carries. It seems like the Dolphins another team that are going six offensive linemen, they're trying to be a little more physical in the run game. A Chan's rushing share definitely went down quite a bit in this last game. So Ollie Gordon and then Kyle Manangai also is basically just splitting snaps with. With shoot. What's his name? Oh yeah. Deandre Swift. For the Bears and so I would.
Danny Hince
Have Manungai higher because again this is so stupid. Fantasy is the stupidest thing ever. DeAndre Swift is also managing an injury.
Craig Korobeck
And yeah and he's had injury. He's had problems with injuries throughout his career.
DK
So he's had a groin injury for the last month.
Danny Hince
So he's playing well the Bears running game. But non guy the one thing I'll say about Isaiah Davis it' funny I agree DK because Braylon Allen has a multi month injury 30, 90 days, who knows. The only funny thing is I think Breeze hall kind of was going to get traded and then he threw a game winning touchdown pass. They're going on by. They can't fucking trade Breeze hall now can you imagine if the only win of Aaron Glenn's career so far was because a running back threw a touchdown pass to win the game? And then they go on their bye week and the players come back and they fucking traded Breeze Hall.
Craig Korobeck
I mean if anyone's gonna do it, it's Woody Johnson.
Danny Hince
Wouldn't that be crazy though? Like I, you know you gotta do what's best for the team. But like what a crazy message that would send to the team of like he took two months to get a win. You're running back, there's a touchdown, you come back for vacation and just like.
DK
World it's like we've acquired a fifth round pick for Breeze Hall.
Craig Korobeck
What are they gonna do?
Danny Hince
So it's gonna be some alone rotational.
Craig Korobeck
Third strings cornerback next year.
Danny Hince
It's cool. So Isaiah Davis can get 2.2 yards of carry.
Craig Korobeck
Oh my God.
Danny Hince
The the Rams did get Roger McCrary the cornerback from Titans today which is incredible stat from Easton for like a.
Craig Korobeck
Pitch swap 5th 6.
Danny Hince
The Titans have one player left from the three drafts from 2020, 2021, 2022 Choco Conquo was the only one they made like 20 picks if one guy left. That was five years ago anyway.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, bad teams stay bad. Yeah, I know.
Danny Hince
Okay. So yeah there's a lot of the other only other ones I'll throw out. Honestly dude. Amir Abdullah, bizarre speed guy who's 32 is one of the older runningwicks in the NFL. If Jonathan Taylor gets hurt, I think Amir Abdullah is the running back for the Colts which obviously is crazy valuable but I I think the other Colts running backs behind mess I think G.
Craig Korobeck
I'm not gonna say they would have a committee for sure but yeah, meh.
Danny Hince
Tyler Goodson's always hurt like Amir Abdullah is the only one that has looked good in the NFL. The other guys.
Craig Korobeck
Johnson of running backs.
Danny Hince
Yeah. So anyway, Amir, like if you're just talking about high upside, I'm like, well, Tank Bigsby, like it's kind of one of those game theory things. If you are like actually like an elite team and the other guy is Saquon, kind of want to take Bigsby. If the other guy's Jonathan Taylor, just Adamir Abdullah. Because if Taylor gets hurt, like they kind of go down. You have Amir Abdullah. Like sometimes that's how things flip. Anyway. Fantasy. Stupid. I can't believe I just had to talk about that. This episode is brought to you by Velveeta. Game day is all about the Tailgate spread. First things first. Who's bringing the Velveeta Drip? Just like your favorite players on the field, Velveeta fans go all in on what they love. Creamy shells and cheese, melty Velveeta blocks and cheesy jarred Queso's. They're taking down one taste bud at a time. Velveeta is the real MVP of the tailgate. You've got to respect the drip. Do yourself a favor and stock up on Velveeta before kickoff. This episode is brought to you by LinkedIn ads. The best B2B marketing gets wasted on the wrong people. So when you want to reach the right professionals, use LinkedIn ads. LinkedIn has grown to a network of over 1 billion professionals, including 130 million decision makers. And that's where it stands apart from other ad buys. You can target your buyers by job title, industry, company role, seniority, skills, company revenue. So you can stop wasting budget on the wrong audience. It's why LinkedIn Ads generates the highest B2B return on ad spend of all online ad networks. Seriously, all of them. Spend $250 in your first campaign on LinkedIn ads and get a free $250 credit for the next one. Just go to LinkedIn.com/ringer fantasy that is LinkedIn.com/ringer Fantasy. Terms and conditions apply. Wide Receivers DK Number 1 Wide Receiver to Add After Week 8 Entering Week.
Craig Korobeck
9 There's actually quite a few options here that I like. Yes, and so it's hard to pick my favorite. But I'm going to go with just the floor option. I guess. I talked about this guy last week, Kshaan Booty for the Patriots. He's rostered in 40% of Yahoo leagues. Again. This is like the thesis with Ksha Booty is he is the deep threat for the best deep ball thrower in the NFL right now in, in Drake May. So he doesn't even, he's, he's like a supercharged version of Alec Pierce. I think he's not going to probably have a super high target rate, but they're looking for him downfield. Drake may trust him down there. He's made some pretty nice throws. I think he's improved a lot. And if you go back a couple years to when he was at lsu, he was thought of as a, you know, big time, maybe going to be like a top 10 pick type of player. Before things kind of fell apart for him. He had some injuries, he had some off field stuff.
Danny Hince
An LSU receiver in the mold of all the other LSU receivers, that was the book in Keisha.
Craig Korobeck
And so I think he's got a good amount of talent as well. So it's just a good situation with a, with a quarterback who is hotter than anybody right now. So I guess I'll just go with Keisha. Booty, although there are some other guys I like here too.
Danny Hince
Booty is one of the, he's not stylistically at all but statistically kind of like Tyler Lockett in that models are never going to like Kishan Booty because inherently what Booty's doing is seems unsustainable.
Craig Korobeck
By catching long touchdowns.
Danny Hince
Yeah, he just catches long touchdowns. Jump all contested and to your point.
Craig Korobeck
He has four in the last three games.
Danny Hince
It's just never going to be able to capture that. Drake May has become one of the better deep balls passers as you said. Also Booty's an excellent contestant catch receiver. Like he's just become quite, I feel like he's actually one of the 10 or 12 better guys in the whole league at it. Like on the scale of 1 to T. Higgins, like Booty's pretty fucking good at it.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
So. And also there is something to Boomer bust receivers I actually do. You don't actually want a guy who's going to get eight or nine points like most. Matt, if you just go to your matchups this week, most fantasy matchups aren't close like they are. You actually would rather have someone capable of putting up 20 plus and booty will be able to do that every week.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
So I, I, I, I like that. Having said that, the other person I'm wondering about though is Christian Watson for the packers because he also, he was.
Craig Korobeck
My second option here.
Danny Hince
Yeah, I was shocked at, I mean he got injured really late last season and he clearly said a phenomenal recovery because I mean he looked fine you know, he played like 38 stamps. It's not a ton. Matt LaFleur said that was more than they wanted to. But I'm like, man, part of me is like all these guys are dart throws anyway. I'm like the idea that Christian Watson might get better as the season goes. I kind of just wanted Christian Watson just because it's all they're all kind of similar. And this week maybe he's not the best option. But throughout the season I kind I know he's going to be the most volatile. So maybe I'm talking about both sides of my mouth.
Craig Korobeck
I mean he's, he's kind of similar to Booty in the sense that, you know, wouldn't be too surprising if he saw two targets next week. He's also the type of guy who could score 25 points in a game and it would not be surprising at all.
DK
The in general, the, the Patriots passing game and the packers passing game is kind of similar in that it's like four wide receivers who are all pretty good. Any of them could go off at any moment and you're just kind of like gambling. But they are efficient, good passing attacks. The only other guy here that we haven't mentioned yet who's had you want to talk about spike week spike week's high Fitz Troy Franklin like one me a week last week has has disappeared at times but also is kind of like the the the number two in Denver and he had two touchdowns and 100 yards this week. The only down the only reason why I would lean Booty and then Watson is probably just because Troy Flanken's playing.
Danny Hince
The Texans this week. That's the thing I don't want to do Trey Franklin it's funny because I think Trey Franklin is good and also probably has to your point slimming occasion Booty. The problem is Troy Franklin's going from the worst past defense in the NFL in Dallas to the best basically in Houston. And I don't want that snip snap. Like I have no interest in going from a guy allowing 400 yards to probably like under 200 in Houston like that. Just I'd rather skate to where the puck is heading who's facing bad defenses. So like the other guy Alec Pierce for the Colts is also in this mold of Pittsburgh over that's what I'm saying. Sorry like if I'm saying Christian Watson looked good last week Alec, like we're just how often do we have to talk about how the Colts can't so the Steelers can't cover Anybody and they've.
Craig Korobeck
Given up like the best quarterback games like of their. Of each quarterback that has played them has been like their best game of the season.
DK
I can't wait to take the colts in the Ringer 107. I know I'm going to take them so fast you can't even believe.
Danny Hince
So it's funny because I think Pierce is, we're talking about him as like the fourth option here but in reality Pierce is the deep guy. He's. He's more than just a deep guy. He's. He's a talented receiver. But the Steelers can't cover anyone. How many times are we going to talk about how the Colts have the most points per drive in the 21st century since the 07 patriots. Like that. They're on that list with the 18 Chiefs and all these like the best offense we've ever seen. Alec Pierce Simo has not scored a touchdown this year. Like that's going to change. All those catches seem to land at the 12 yard line. He's going to score eventually. So he. Those four guys though. Christian Watson, Alec Pierce, Kishan Booty, Troy Franklin, like those are better than you usually see on waivers. Like it's. They're not so desperate desperation options and they all have some degree of relevance for the coming, coming weeks.
Craig Korobeck
Dodgers have the, the winning run at second right now.
Danny Hince
Who's on second? That wasn't a joke. I've never said that earnestly in my entire life.
Craig Korobeck
I don't actually know that. I don't actually know that whole deal. The song or whatever. Do you guys know it? It's not a song or like the poem or whatever.
Danny Hince
Like who? It's not a poem.
DK
It's like a vaudeville sketch.
Craig Korobeck
Whatever. I don't know what it is. What do you call it? The thing that they used to do. Yeah.
Danny Hince
Who's on first?
DK
It's Abbott and Costello.
Craig Korobeck
Is it?
DK
Yeah.
Danny Hince
Abbott and Costello.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't really into them when I was growing up. We.
DK
It's like who's on first? What?
Danny Hince
He's on who?
DK
No, he's on first. Yeah.
Craig Korobeck
The other guy that I want to mention here before we do the trivia is Jalen Noel. I guess all the Texans receivers are interesting. Jaden Higgins and Xavier Hutchinson both played a bunch of snaps for the Texans last week. Both scored a touchdown. Both are like big bodied red zone threats. I do think once Nico Colin comes back though, those guys role will diminish a bit. And then Jalen Noel to me is a guy to kind of Stash right now. I don't think you should start him next week. I think it's gonna. You're gonna have to see how things shake out. But he looks awesome to me, and I think there's a chance down the second half of the season that he just replaces Christian Kirk. He's way more explosive, and he kind of plays from the slot. He can do some of those slots. Yeah. So there's a chance. Obviously, it's. You're going to probably be playing whack a mole a little bit with these Texans receivers, but I think Jaylen Noel is worth stashing if you have a deep roster.
Danny Hince
I feel exactly the same way about these Texans receivers as I kind of do with Trey Franklin, where it's like, the Texans are going from this Niners team to speed to shit.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
And then the Texans have to play the Broncos, who have this incredible secondary with Patrick Certain. Oh, wait. Just kidding. Patrick Certain is, like, not going to play this week. So I'm like, oh. But in reality, the Broncos defense is still good. The. And then the next week is Nico Collins and Christian Kirk going to be fine for when you play him in week 10. However, one thing about Certain being out, the Broncos, the way they do man coverage and everything, basically, man coverage is big boy football. Like, can you actually do it? But there's frankly, basically no reason you would be a cornerback instead of a receiver if you could. Unless your dad was a Hall of Fame cornerback like Patrick Certain, there's no reason to do it. So the receivers are way better than cornerbacks. So there's no one can play man coverage except, like, four teams. So the Broncos, though, the Steelers try.
DK
To do it, they fail every week.
Danny Hince
Yeah, well, that's my point. When you try it, you look ridiculous, which is how the Lions end up looking every year on defense, because they stop. They refuse to stop playing, man, whenever he gets hurt. Cause Dan Campbell's like, that's a test of your manhood. My point being, do you remember that one game last year where James Winston had, like, 500 passing yards and Bo Nix and him went back and forth? That was like, when Patrick Certain was out. Like, that's what the Broncos defense looks like when they try to play, man. And then Riley Moss is the number one.
Craig Korobeck
Is he definitely not playing? Sir Tan?
Danny Hince
I just. I mean, let me pull it up. I mean, it's. It's the. It just. Just happened. We're recording this, like, late Tuesday, Monday night. This is expected to be out weeks. Like, maybe an injury, pec strain, so the Broncos defense, I, I, I, I'm a little hesitant to come out here on Monday night immediately after this happens and be like, attack them. It's fine. But I'm just saying Broncos defense is not going to be or might not be that scary because once you lose the horses, it's kind of like why you suddenly it's like, do you do the system you've all practiced that you're no longer prepared for or do you do something you've never really, you're not really, you don't major in?
Craig Korobeck
So it really makes I, I think this is something that I've noticed a lot this year. You notice it every year too, but it's just been really pronounced. This year is the difference between star players and regular players is so dramatic. It's crazy. Like when you go from a guy all pro defensive player of the year in certain to even a good backup, it's like falls apart. It just makes you appreciate how good these guys are, you know, down in and down out. Like I'm, this is, I just thought of this. But like going back to like Darrell Rivas, man, when he was guarding a guy and man, it was incredible. Yeah.
Danny Hince
And I apologize. Certain did play that game, but all the cornerbacks after him kept falling. So like certain was fine. But all the other quarterbacks got hurt in that game. I got it backward. But that's the point though, when you play man coverage and you don't have the starters. Yeah, I totally agree.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
It's that it's, unless it's, you know, running back. But even then kind of came back.
DK
So who are we going to do here for wide receiver? I think we're saying like tier one is booty and Watson and then it kind of drops and then you have guys like Troy Franklin, you have Jalen Noel, Alec Pierce. You could probably throw in the Raiders guys. Trey Tucker, Jack Besh, even if Jacoby Myers gets moved. But yeah, Booty and Watson at the top. And we'll do the booty.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
DK
For showdown time.
Danny Hince
Yes. Tucker would move up a tick just because I do think Jacoby Myers will get traded.
DK
Yeah. Yeah.
Danny Hince
So showdown time, baby.
DK
I wouldn't mind if he got traded. The Steelers. It is the K, Sean. Booty, booty, booty, booty. Showdown time.
Craig Korobeck
That was your best one ever.
Danny Hince
Craig. We got an email from someone. This is not the trivia, but someone sent an email saying that his ex girlfriend thought that the line was booty, booty, booty, booty, rocking down the. Well, what is the line? And Then actually I just assumed it was booty, booty rocking everywhere. Everywhere, I think. But then he said, I think DK said rocking down the well. And I went back, said what? It sounds like.
Craig Korobeck
I didn't. I didn't actually say any words. I was just, you know, I don't know what the words are.
Danny Hince
Ben, you're. Now we gotta look wrong. But I mean, obviously there's whole. There's a trillion lines people get wrong. Is it even worth doing the emails on that? I think there's. There's too many lines. People get wrong in songs, Steven.
DK
Yeah, that's hard.
Danny Hince
There's like a thousand. Ok, this is from Brian.
Craig Korobeck
Brian B. Bone. Sorry.
Danny Hince
According to a 2010 study. Also wait duty context we were talking about. A person emailed in about whether they should start dating their step cousin. Not related. So Brian says, according to it's also.
DK
Not their step cousin.
Danny Hince
Yeah, well, it's way simpler than saying my mom lives with a guy he's not married to and it's his niece. What are you going to say?
DK
It's actually worth being that specific so you don't have to say, I'm dating my step cousin.
Danny Hince
Yeah, probably. That's what step is for. Anyway, Brian says, According to a 2010 study, roughly what percentage of marriages worldwide are between actual cousins? Not step cousins. We're talking second cousins first.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, second or second cousins are closer.
Danny Hince
What percentage of marriage was estimated worldwide?
DK
Oh, wait, in America or worldwide?
Danny Hince
Worldwide.
DK
It's worldwide. God, they have that statistic.
Danny Hince
That's why I said roughest.
Craig Korobeck
Craig, how do they answer any of the fucking questions we've been asking?
Danny Hince
Well, they did a study on it. They tried. They worked really hard.
DK
What study? Okay.
Danny Hince
What a pointless study. I'm gonna find the researchers of this study and send them saying it's pointless.
Craig Korobeck
I'd be like, just trying to break up marriages around the world.
DK
Maybe focus your efforts on something else. What percent?
Craig Korobeck
I feel like it's gonna be higher than you think.
Danny Hince
I also gave an answer to this before I read it, so I'm gonna just say the answer I already written down.
Craig Korobeck
All right, I think I got it.
DK
Okay.
Danny Hince
3.
Craig Korobeck
2, 1.
Danny Hince
4.2.
Craig Korobeck
0.2.
DK
Yeah.
Craig Korobeck
Okay, hyphens. What'd you say?
Danny Hince
I said 4.
Craig Korobeck
I also said 4.
DK
4 in 100 marriages are to your cousin.
Craig Korobeck
Sure. I don't know.
Danny Hince
It's the whole world.
DK
I know, I know, I know it's different, but it seems high.
Craig Korobeck
Okay. Hi, Fitz. Do you want the over or the under? You can decide.
Danny Hince
I will Let you pick.
Craig Korobeck
I'm gonna take the under Craig's.
Danny Hince
Craig Scared is. It's not 4%. It's 10.4%.
DK
Stop.
Craig Korobeck
1 out of 10.
DK
1 out of 10 marriages are to a cousin.
Danny Hince
Now I want to look into this study. Let's see here. Who did this? Okay. Age. Bittles and Boston University School of Medicine.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
2009. Abstract. There's little information on inbreeding during the critical early years of human existence. Okay, Going on and on. 10%. Currently, couples related as second cousins or closer and their progeny account for an estimated 10.4% of the global population.
DK
That is I, I shocking number.
Danny Hince
Obviously, this is one. Don't kink shame doesn't mean this is a fact.
DK
Okay, wait a minute.
Danny Hince
Basically, like a very, very, very educated guess.
DK
Still, I just, I just. No joke. I just typed into Chat GPT. We can even. We can check the time on it to show that I'm not cheating. I said, how many marriages are between Cousins and chat GPT's answer is. According to available research, it is estimated that around 0.2% of marriages in the. Oh, in the U.S. damn it.
Danny Hince
Damn it, Greg.
Craig Korobeck
You're thinking too locally, pal.
Danny Hince
Broaden your horizons.
DK
Pretty good, though. I hit that.
Danny Hince
There's a lot of you guys in my new house.
Craig Korobeck
A lot of small villages scattered amongst.
DK
The world that I guess we are traveling to to study what they are doing with their marriage.
Craig Korobeck
You don't have other options? All right. I have an inch at certain places.
Danny Hince
I want to reinvent Hinge because I, I mean, the, the.
DK
It's called the family group chat.
Danny Hince
Yeah. The singles who are listening now know the Hinge is exhausting. All the apps are exhausting. It's a dating app, and your parents get to decide who you get to see. And there's like two options, and you have to pick from one of the two or three people. Your family gets to pick who you see on app.
DK
Can you go back? Just go back to the first. Like a soft arranged marriage?
Danny Hince
Yeah. It's like you get. You get some autonomy. You know, they have almost four people on here, and, and three of them are people you're like, no. Like, no, mom. No. But I just like the idea that we're going to go back to how we did it the first, like, 4 million years.
DK
I do kind of like when you ever have, like, you're trying to decide with your friends to watch a movie, do movie night, and you're like, there. It's a million movies. We could pick from it Will never land on one. It's almost nice to have an outside party. Be like, here are the four movies you can choose from. And then you have to pick one.
Craig Korobeck
The illusion. What is it? The illusion of choice. No, not illusion.
Danny Hince
The paradox. The paradox of choice. That's like the original TED Talk that went viral. It's super true.
Craig Korobeck
I have a question. This is. This is purely academic. I'm not thinking about doing anything. What are the differences between the apps these days? Because I don't even know.
Danny Hince
Oh, I thought you were asking.
Craig Korobeck
No, like Hinge.
DK
Well, hyphens. And I shouldn't be able to answer either.
Danny Hince
Well, no, Craig. He doesn't. He doesn't. I've never been on Tinder versus Hinge first.
Craig Korobeck
Okay. Yeah, it's Tinder. Still a big thing.
DK
So Tinder's for. Tinder's for one night stands.
Danny Hince
Tinder's for sex.
DK
Hinges. For finding a partner. Life partner.
Craig Korobeck
Oh. So it's more geared towards actual dating. Right.
Danny Hince
Hinges. The whole model is designed to be deleted. It's for people who are more serious. Hind. Hinge is not purely for like carnal. It's actually like you're supposed to go on a date.
Craig Korobeck
Carnal. Like the sins of the flesh. Yeah.
Danny Hince
Hinge is like you go and get coffee or a dinner and then. Or drink and then Tinder is like you might meet up with someone at.
DK
2 in the morning.
Craig Korobeck
And Hinged. You like enter in things about yourself and it's supposed to like find compatibility with other people.
Danny Hince
Or you have a photo of yourself filtered. Yeah. So it's. It's like you have photos and you have different prompts and then sometimes, I mean, there's like a hundred prompts you can pick from and you're like six or seven. And hopefully you've had your friends pick your six or seven best photos and you kind of scroll through and it's almost like LinkedIn for like LinkedIn's a bad example, but it kind of sounds terrible.
DK
But yeah, a lot about Hinge.
Danny Hince
He's never seen it.
Craig Korobeck
Well, he's. You've been on it at some point. Yeah.
DK
I mean, seven years ago. I look at my friends.
Craig Korobeck
What's bumble?
Danny Hince
Stop You.
Craig Korobeck
What's bumble?
Danny Hince
Bumble is where only women can pick.
DK
Well, women have to come to you first.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
Which was a business model one.
DK
And that was actually somebody from Tinder left to go make Bumble. But I feel like.
Craig Korobeck
So only the women can reach out to the men in that.
Danny Hince
The problem with the dating apps is that the People are the, the women are the product. So they kind of. All the dating apps narrow into just gatekeep. Like they see just who's getting swiped on the most and the people with the highest swipe rates then are gay. Keep been kept behind a paywall because they're basically like, if you'll spend 100 bucks to buy a woman dinner on a date once, why wouldn't you pay us like a couple hundred bucks a year to get to. So they gatekeep the top fit like 20% swipe rates and everything. And it's just also like, it just they don't actually want you to delete the app. So it's just tough. Also, dating men generally are terrible.
DK
So knows a lot about this.
Danny Hince
You don't have any single friends left. Craig.
Craig Korobeck
Craig.
DK
I'm just with you. I'm just having a laugh.
Danny Hince
No, it's fine. See, I smelt it. Delta. Okay.
Craig Korobeck
I feel like back in the day there was one. Oh, yeah, Christian Mingle. Is that still around Farmer's Meat? Yeah, there's like the ones that are really geared towards specific things. JDate.
Danny Hince
Farmer's meat had the funny commercials.
Craig Korobeck
Farmer's Meat.
DK
Yeah, Farmers meet Farmers only.
Danny Hince
Like farmers E A T. It was farmers only.
DK
No, it was M E E T. Come on.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, we've already established I don't like meat in my quesadilla.
Danny Hince
All right, well, I actually have never seen that one.
Craig Korobeck
Farmer's Meat.
DK
I haven't either, but I don't like eating my quesadilla.
Craig Korobeck
Sounds like something you would say on your Farmer's Meat. Your one liner.
Danny Hince
We'll put that as your hinge.
DK
Yeah, Craig, maybe can you make that your Twitter bio? I don't like meat in my quesadill case anyway.
Danny Hince
Tight end. Speaking of which. Okay.
DK
Whoa, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hi. It's one.
Danny Hince
Oh, my God.
DK
We've. I got DK got second.
Craig Korobeck
Okay, so I'll take Christian Watson.
DK
I will take. I will take Alec Pierce.
Danny Hince
I actually think it's swapped. I, I, I kind of ended up choosing Watson there. I'm.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, you want Watson?
Danny Hince
Yeah.
Craig Korobeck
Okay. I'll take Booty. That's fine.
DK
I'll take Pierce. All right, cool.
Craig Korobeck
This game is going to go on forever.
Danny Hince
I know. God. Let's get rolling. Dk. Number one tight end after week eight. Entering week nine.
Craig Korobeck
I'm going with Juan Johnson for the Saints. Pickens are a little bit slim at tight end this week. He had five catches for 53 yards last week. Five catches for 79 yards. The important thing with him is for a while there they were, the Saints were playing like a really big rotation. Foster, Moreau, Moreau, Taysom Hill. But those guys have kind of been pushed to the side over the last couple of weeks and now it's the Juwan Johnson show again. He played 75% of the snaps the last two weeks. So yeah, Juwan Johnson. You know, obviously I've watched the display.
Danny Hince
And I will let you do that.
Craig Korobeck
That's rather have that.
DK
I would rather have A.J. barner because that's like I want Darnold throwing the ball. They're playing Washington. I, I don't know if I can take Tyler Shuck thrown to anybody.
Danny Hince
Did you see Washington trying to cover? Travis Kelsey had 99 yards tonight. He was wide open all game. It's like the Washington, they cannot cover.
DK
Playing the Rams on the road.
Craig Korobeck
I'm like Bobby, it's like touchdown or bus with him though. But I mean it's kind of like every tight end.
Danny Hince
I agree though. AJ Barner is generally speaking probably not going to be a good bet on a week to week basis. But if you need someone this week, which you probably do because I mean there's a lot of tight ends on by this week like Dallas Goddard, both brown SL ends like it's bar again. Washington just allowed Kels get 99 yards. I think Barner is a good bet for a touchdown.
DK
It's basically like if you want to Spike, it's A.J. if you want to go for like 15 to 18 points, it's A.J. barner. If you want somebody who's going to guarantee get you seven, maybe it's Joan Johnson.
Craig Korobeck
The other one to throw out here is Colston Loveland for the Bears because Ket has a back injury. Loveland played almost 80% of the snaps when when Kemet was out. And the Bears go against the Bengals this week who I believe have given up the most fantasy points to tight ends.
Danny Hince
There's an argument that Colson Loveland should be the number one guy and Mason Taylor too. But realistically Mason Taylor, it's tough because he's on a buy. I've refused to play Mason Taylor when Justin Fields was playing. If Tara Taylor it does start at some point I actually would be interested in Mason Taylor. But now I feel like Fields is going to play kind of like Breeze Hall. They have to play him but he's on by anyway. So Colson Loveland, he had a touchdown from Breece Hall. Well that's the thing. Even Fields can't get him a touchdown. You know, also, we never talked about if that play didn't work, what we would have said. We never said didn't make that play. We would have been like, wow, the jets are the dumbest team ever. Anyway. Colson Loveland being the first tight end drafted second half of the season. If he gets going with commit out, he clearly has the most upside. But also people who drafted him are probably burned. But the people who didn't draft Coulson Loveland, if you kind of. This is what we talk about with receivers who down the second stretch, Loveland's like more of a pure tight end. So it's a little harder for him to adjust. But this is what we're talking about where rookies who do nothing in this first half contribute in second half all the time. Cole commit gets hurt. Bears offense is good. Maybe, you know, Luther Burton is concussion. Like, you know, probably have to play more two tight end sets or whatever. If you're just going to throw a dart anyway and you're going to throw a dart against the Bears and Bengals. If Colson Loveland does have a good game, that means you could keep playing him probably because he'll play more. So maybe level is the smarter answer. If riskier, but way higher upside.
DK
Yeah, love, Love. If any of these guys are gonna be like a top 10 tight end to finish the season, it's probably Barna or Loveland.
Danny Hince
I'm gonna love.
Craig Korobeck
Who do we like? Should we go?
DK
Lovely.
Danny Hince
I'm gonna, I'm gonna go Loveland because I'm realizing as I'm talking that they're playing the Bengals and, and just the odds of a touchdown. Like, I'm more confident. If my life was on the line for points this week, I'd pick Barner. But what's the difference? Two, three points? I'm like Loveland talent over the course of the season. I'd rather have him on my team.
Craig Korobeck
Let's go Loveland.
DK
Let's do Loveland. You really can spam bad defenses in fantasy and get away with a lot on a week by week basis. Like you can just attack the shitty defenses like Troy Franklin playing Dallas. Like you can do that and it is pretty effective.
Danny Hince
Yeah, Sorry. So Colson, love the show. Watch him up. Zero points.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, we're going to the 12th. Yep. All right.
DK
It is the DK. You did a 15 inning game. You could tell us what it's like. I know.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. That's why I was like, should we wait and watch this game? I'm like, I don't know. I Think we're gonna wait on home? Yeah.
DK
All right. This is the Colston Loveland. This is fun showdown time. Let's go. Let's cook.
Danny Hince
What do we got, by the way?
DK
There's 88 babies named Craig in America in 2024.
Danny Hince
88?
DK
Not that many.
Craig Korobeck
That's very low.
Danny Hince
A quarter of the. A quarter of Alvin.
DK
Yeah.
Danny Hince
Wow.
DK
How many Craigs do you guys know?
Craig Korobeck
That's me or Craig Gaines?
DK
How many Craigs you know that's not me or Craig Gaines?
Danny Hince
Zero.
Craig Korobeck
I know one.
DK
Nice.
Danny Hince
Well, Craigs in my life will be offended.
Craig Korobeck
Just say, you know one.
Danny Hince
Just. Yeah, I know one. Three. I know three total. Yeah, good point. Ck.
Craig Korobeck
Okay. There's no upside to say you don't know one.
Danny Hince
It's a good point.
Craig Korobeck
And him hearing it makes me feel more unique.
Danny Hince
Well, we were joking, but we actually think we can make you a top five most famous Craig in America. Like who? What's even the list?
DK
Craig Ferguson. Craig T. Nelson. Craig Robinson is as far as.
Danny Hince
Craig Ferguson's not, well, American.
Craig Korobeck
Craig Craig Ferguson, Yeah.
Danny Hince
Scottish.
DK
Yeah. But he had an American television show.
Danny Hince
I'm trying to help you.
DK
I'm just saying Craig Ferguson is more famous than me, obviously.
Craig Korobeck
I think Craig T. Nelson and Craig Ferguson are more famous than you. Craig Robinson, too, for sure. You're, like, fourth.
Danny Hince
Can't be the idea that we could easily get you to the top five. I would like to think that when I'm done with whatever this is, you could be a top five most famous Craig.
DK
Does Craigslist count ahead of me?
Danny Hince
Kind of like Elvin Camara. You never just think of the Craig.
Craig Korobeck
I don't think Craigslist counts because it's not a person. I know. It's named after a guy named Craigslist. That guy doesn't want to. No one knows who that guy is.
DK
If he didn't want to be found, he shouldn't have named his fucking company Craigslist.
Danny Hince
He didn't think it through.
Craig Korobeck
That's very true.
DK
Yeah, that was founded by Craig Newmark.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, but no one knows him.
DK
No.
Danny Hince
If he knew what Craigslist would really become, he probably wouldn't have named it Craigslist anyway. Oh, yeah. So the qu. This from Brian. So simple. Love this.
DK
Another Brian.
Craig Korobeck
Brian guy.
Danny Hince
How many dots are there on the original Pac man maze?
Craig Korobeck
Ooh.
DK
Oh, wow.
Craig Korobeck
That's.
DK
I think we have to not think about. We almost have to, like, just give.
Danny Hince
Ourselves five seconds and then go, 3, 2, 1.
Craig Korobeck
164. Oh, my God.
Danny Hince
You said 64. Craig and you said 65 DK.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
Wow.
DK
Oh, it's more than that. It's more than that. Damn it.
Danny Hince
That's so weird you guys picked.
Craig Korobeck
I don't know.
Danny Hince
Do you know how many times you'd have to do that again? Just 0 to 100. For you to pick two numbers next to each other, it would take a long time.
Craig Korobeck
I can't remember how big the dots were.
DK
I think. I think there's more dots than I'm imagining.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, probably like 100 by steel.
DK
I know. Damn it.
Danny Hince
I said 100. The answer is 244.
Craig Korobeck
Whoa.
DK
I also feel like the screen size that you play Pac man on, I feel like they make versions where there's less dots and it's on a smaller screen. But maybe I'm wrong.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Like the game boy one or something. Yeah.
DK
Damn. Okay. High fit. It's nice.
Craig Korobeck
244 target. Coastal level got two today.
Danny Hince
So DK then you get you taking the lead.
DK
The trivia score is high fits and DK of seven. I have eight.
Danny Hince
Okay.
Craig Korobeck
Damn it.
DK
Close called. Close game, though.
Craig Korobeck
Okay, so Heifetz is taking Loveland. I'll take John Johnson over still. Yeah.
DK
I'm taking A.J. barn.
Danny Hince
He'll do anything to reverse jinx the Seahawks.
Craig Korobeck
I mean, I like A.J. barn. I think he's a good player, but he just gets like three targets a.
Danny Hince
Game quarter so much.
DK
Why don't you pick him?
Craig Korobeck
I also like Joanne Johnson of Oregon fame as we've established.
Danny Hince
Quarterback, if you need a quarterback this week. I think Trevor Lawrence off a buy. I feel like he was released in a lot of leagues. Amanda. I don't know if he's available playing the Raiders and he's running more. He's. I just think Trevor Lawrence is super solid. Sam Darnold off, also off a buy. Just an oddly quality fantasy option that would might just be available because a lot of people released guys during Bagedon. So Lawrence and Darnold definitely the top two. And then Joe Flacco versus the Bears. He has an injury. We'll see. I think he's gonna play. Beer's defense is ass. He has Jamar Chase. Jamar chase will get 25 targets in this game. Not really, but the fact that that actually is possible, the fact that I just said that as a joke and then realized that actually could conceivably happen, is why you should play Joe Flacco. Tua. I, I, I don't even want to recommend it because it's like Charlie Brown, like, he has one good game. You'll play him. The other reason is two is Thursday at football and I just like it's the Ravens and I'm like if you have another option and I I don't know you don't want to make the decision for Thursday so Mike I'd rather even Michael Penix I'd rather probably over to it just because I don't want to make that timeline by Thursday. Lawrence Darnold, Flacco, Penix to it and then if you know we'll. We'll see from there Defenses a lot of there's. I think there's a lot of good defenses available. Seattle probably the best defense you will be able to get all year just because they're on by I think peop no matter how good defenses are they get dropped sometimes. The Seattle defense being dropped I think if you can go get them because they run by you should go get them like they're next playing Washington which will maybe if that's Mariota still would be amazing Arizona then the Rams, then the Titans, then the Vikings. Where Carson went we didn't talk about this. Carson Wentz is out for the season so JJ McCarthy is going to be playing for the Vikings.
Craig Korobeck
That looks like my take on Bill's pot is not living up to well.
Danny Hince
Not gonna McCarthy hasn't played yet.
Craig Korobeck
Could be a week I guess. Yeah.
Danny Hince
Anyway I just think the Seahawks defense is elite and if you can get elite defense I would go get them both Los Angeles teams the Rams again off a buy playing the Saints. I don't care if it's Spencer Rattler or Tyler Schuck. They both suck. Rams defense rules just that's a bizarrely great streaming option. Similarly the Chargers with 10 days rest facing the Titans just an incredible streaming option to go and get. The Chargers with 10 days to plan for Cam Ward like that is also cup runneth over Jags off a buy as your fifth option here facing the Raiders and Geno Smith. Obviously the Raiders, you know you would think that they would want to buckle down but you know who knows maybe Bowers is back and healthier but the rate of Gino's still still throwing a ton of picks. Jaguars have had a ton of turnovers. Obviously that stuff regresses but you never know. Ravens even I would consider if all.
Craig Korobeck
Those things the Ravens defense is coming.
DK
Back now a lot of guys are coming back. I mean Woozy and Roquan and Humphrey and a lot of guys are coming back.
Danny Hince
Kyle Hamilton obviously gets all the presses. Basically the best safety in the entire league. Roquan Smith is the fulcrum of the defense. The whole system, the concepts the Ravens run, the inside linebackers of like is paramount. And if Roquan's able to play in this game, I mean to like, I know he had the good game, but I, I just. If all the Seattle, Los Angeles Rams, LA Chargers are all gone and you don't want the Jaguars, like the Ravens defense is probably available in your league.
DK
I think Ron played last week. I'm assuming he's playing this week.
Danny Hince
So the Thursday Night Football. I, I, Miami, I kind of think there's a chance the Ravens rock Miami, man. Like, there's. Lamar's gonna come back. Lamar's from Miami. I don't know, man. So anyway, and then Cleveland, who's just also on a buy, but then they come back to the jets and just want to throw that out. If you trying to think a week ahead. Yeah, the Browns versus the Jets. Fields, I don't know. Okay, those are waivers. Want to read an email or two when we get out of here?
Craig Korobeck
Yeah.
Danny Hince
Let's save some of these for power.
Craig Korobeck
This game is still going on.
Danny Hince
By the way, I wanted to start out by just an email here from Ebone.
DK
Ebone, Ebone, Any breakfasts? I would love to know.
Danny Hince
Oh, we have breakfast. Yeah.
Craig Korobeck
Okay.
Danny Hince
We actually have a bunch. I actually think I've subconsciously cut some of them out here. I'll pull up Ebony.
Craig Korobeck
How dare you, sir?
DK
Again, if you're listening, please send us the breakfast along with your email.
Danny Hince
Ebone did not, but I'll include the breakfast. You're right. I'm sorry, I'm skipping on the breakfast.
DK
Wow.
Danny Hince
I just randomly found a great low stakes conspiracy by accident trying to find this guy's name.
Craig Korobeck
Read it, read it.
Danny Hince
It's kind of better than Ebon's email.
Craig Korobeck
We'll do both of them.
DK
Do both. Throw Ebon a bone and then we'll do the conspiracy.
Danny Hince
Okay, don't let me forget Ebone. So Ebone wrote in and said. Because I was saying how the ATT commercial on Sunday football was like, we invented the phone.
DK
Oh, I watched. I saw that today.
Danny Hince
So, Ebone, what did you think when you watch it?
DK
I don't know. I was, it was, I was already colored. My opinion was colored by the our pod yesterday.
Danny Hince
It hit me like, I was just like. What do you mean you invented the phone? How have you never brought this up? So Ebon writes, you youngsters are apparently unaware that for many years there was only one telephone company and that company was the predecessor to at&t. And this is when I realized it. It was called Bell. Yeah, because, you know, the guy who made the phone didn't realize that. And so anyway, the feds finally used antitrust laws to break up the original company. The lack of knowledge of history that folks your age have is appalling.
Craig Korobeck
The feds finally fucking broke up that gravy chain.
Danny Hince
Yeah. I fucking invents a phone. And they're like, yeah, I invented it. I invent the piano necktie.
DK
I invented it.
Craig Korobeck
Anyway, thank you, Hivetz, for getting that. That was great.
DK
Dude. The whole reason why Hollywood is in Hollywood and not the east coast is, I guess it's not antitrust, but Thomas Edison, like, invented the camera, and then he basically wouldn't let anyone else use it without them paying him. So. So people were like, we need to get as far away from Thomas Edison as we can. So he can't. So he doesn't know we're using his cameras. And so they went to the West Coast.
Danny Hince
Are you serious? Yeah, that's the reason.
DK
Yeah. They were like, this fucker is on the. In New York. We got to get the. Or Boston. We got to get the hell out of here, because they're not going to let me.
Danny Hince
So when did he find out? Just. They just put some Charlie Chaplin movie out, and he was like, those motherfuckers.
DK
He's like, damn it. What they're doing out there. But that's. That's partly the reason why Hollywood is in la.
Danny Hince
That's unbelievable.
Craig Korobeck
Also, that's wild.
Danny Hince
If you had asked me who invented the camera, I actually don't think I would have known it was Thomas Edison.
Craig Korobeck
I feel like I need to watch these movies that were about Thomas Edison and, I don't know, Alexander Graham. I don't know very much.
Danny Hince
Just watch the Family Guy joke where Thomas Edison just bashes Nicole.
Craig Korobeck
Did they make a movie recently, Craig, about Maybe it was Tesla, The Prestige guy? The guy.
Danny Hince
Well, yeah, no, I've heard original.
Craig Korobeck
I've watched the Prestige. That was a good movie.
DK
I don't know recently about Tesla. Not sure.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, maybe. But it might have been just for anyone. I think it was about light bulbs and shit. Yeah.
DK
Thomas Edison created the phonograph, the motion picture camera, the alkaline storage battery. And, dude, the guy was. The guy was cooking, you know, there's.
Danny Hince
Like, a bunch of people like that that don't get enough credit. Like, Charles Babbage invented the computer. The old timer, though, is. The guy who invented the Internet is alive in, like, 63 and he's a British researcher. It's not Al Gore. It's like just a guy invented the Internet and is not famous. And you know why we have the Internet and our careers and everything we do? Because he refused to patent it. I don't want to patent this. I want everyone to have this. And he's not that rich.
Craig Korobeck
Wow, sorry to interrupt you, hiz. The movie I was thinking was the Current War, which had Benedict Cumberbatch in it.
DK
I don't know.
Craig Korobeck
Dramatic story of a cutthroat race between electricity titans Thomas Edison and George Westinghouse. I gotta watch that. Yeah, sorry.
DK
Report back, let me know.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, I will. I feel like there was another weirdly.
Danny Hince
Good segue to this random email I just found from Cam. I think we've read this before, but I don't even care.
Craig Korobeck
C bone.
Danny Hince
I asked for low stakes conspiracy theories and Kim said, why can't we harness lightning?
Craig Korobeck
Can't we?
Danny Hince
He's like, they say it's hard to predict and store and collect it, but like, is it?
Craig Korobeck
Well.
DK
I mean, I love the idea of the three of us trying to unpack this. Well, let's think about this.
Danny Hince
Why can't you just collect the lightning?
Craig Korobeck
What about that little ball thing that like, has like all the lightning stuff, you know, and you like lightning rod? No, there's like a. I don't know what it is.
DK
I don't know. Yeah, I'm thinking. I know what you're saying, but there's like a light in the prestige.
Craig Korobeck
There's like.
DK
That Isaac Tesla has the big part of the balls.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, yeah.
DK
Also, like, aren't there, like, you know, the high points on buildings where lightning always strikes? Why can't we harness it that way?
Danny Hince
Put something there.
Craig Korobeck
We're trying not to blow up buildings, Craig.
DK
Yeah.
Danny Hince
You know what's funny?
DK
Yeah.
Danny Hince
This is how James Dolan built the sphere. He was like, why? Why do you have.
Craig Korobeck
By harnessing lightning?
Danny Hince
No, James Dolan was like, just make the whole thing screen. And James was. And they were like, james, you can't do this. Why are there walls, like around a screen? Just make. Make the walls the screen. And they were like, fuck. And then they did it. So we should do this.
Craig Korobeck
I think there was one more movie about like electricity or something. And I'm trying to figure out maybe Rosamund pike in it. I don't know.
DK
Wow, that was a crazy ass play.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Was that. Was that really out? We're just watching a play where.
DK
Grounder to third.
Craig Korobeck
So you're like, wait, for it to get there.
DK
There's a guy running this third. And yeah, the third baseman, like, has to wait for the ball to get to him while his foot's on the base. Oh, he's so safe.
Craig Korobeck
He's very safe.
Danny Hince
Baseball has a. But every time you watch baseball in the playoffs, you're like, there are certain elements that they really could grab for other sports. One, the manager's wearing the jerseys. The idea that there's a space that you have to stay and if you leave, you're, like, in danger is great. And like, a little, like, literally, like the little tiny safe space, it's. It's a pretty great thing.
DK
It is. It's. It's a kind of a childish, like, invention. It is.
Danny Hince
It's very.
DK
It's very. Floor is lava. Like, you know, you're a kid, you can't jump off the couch type of vibes.
Danny Hince
It's so funny that grown men are like, no, I was touching the base. I was touching it.
Craig Korobeck
I was on base.
DK
And there's a third guy who just has to stare at it. Go, no, you were there.
Danny Hince
I will say every time I've ever gotten mad at a ball or strike, putting the cameras on the umps when they show the ump cam, I've never gotten the call right. One time. I can't. I can't believe they. That that's their job.
DK
Do you think umps like watching sports outside of their job or is that exhausting?
Danny Hince
Baseball or, like, other sports?
Craig Korobeck
Are they putting on other games?
DK
Yeah, like, as an up watching baseball in his off time, do you think.
Danny Hince
They criticize the refs? Because that's my favorite thing with, like, players. So the NFL players will be like, man, like, you guys can't criticize. You just sit. Like, what do you mean? You don't know what's going on in the locker room. You don't know the context. Like, you. And then like, like, if you watch them watch a basketball game, they're like, fuck Kevin Durant.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah, they yelling at the refs.
Danny Hince
Come on, blue.
DK
Like, does an up get home from a long day and, like, throw on Sunday night? Baseball, Craig.
Craig Korobeck
It's like, does a gynecologist go home and I'll let you fill in the blank there.
Danny Hince
That was. Someone went on subway takes the other day and was like, there should not be male gynecologists.
Craig Korobeck
That's probably true.
Danny Hince
I. I found it. You know, it's hard for me to argue against, you know?
DK
Yeah, that's one of those things where I feel like, that's, that's the right take. But I also. I don't know.
Danny Hince
Yeah, we found the one thing Craig won't weigh in.
DK
I've thought that before as well. I feel like everyone's had that conversation. And yet, I don't know. There are male guy.
Craig Korobeck
I don't know.
DK
It's weird.
Danny Hince
We'll see. Anyone wants to email in? Bring your fancy football.
DK
Do you think there should be only male urologists?
Craig Korobeck
If it's his, he's giving it some real thought.
DK
If you went to the doctor for a penis issue and your doctor was a woman, would you be like, hey.
Craig Korobeck
I feel like they might have a hard. They might have a hard time.
Danny Hince
Well, if anything, sometimes an outside opinion, you know, maybe that's helpful.
DK
Also, the penis is much less complicated, right?
Danny Hince
Yeah, but I'm debating telling something. Yeah. My, my. I had multiple friends who don't know each other who. Dude, you ever talk to your friends who are doctors about like what they do in medical school? Nuts.
Craig Korobeck
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like talk to nurses. The. They have to see.
Danny Hince
It's insane. Like, lordy. Like, what's your hours?
DK
They have to work. Like, I don't. That I still don't understand why doctors work the hours they do and why med school is the hour. Like, it's just like this tradition that they won't break. But like, oh my God, dude, Liz's sister is a doctor and she. I mean, she is working literally like 32 hour shifts.
Craig Korobeck
It's sort of like a weeding out. Is it a weeding out strategy?
DK
No.
Danny Hince
We don't have enough doctors in this country because medical like, that's all.
Craig Korobeck
But you don't want bad doctors.
Danny Hince
No, we need, we do need more doctors though.
Craig Korobeck
Right, Right.
DK
It's just funny that like you would think that the profession that knows about the human body would. Would not want to employ people who are working on a lack of sleep.
Craig Korobeck
Right. Like the people like with you when you're lack of sleep, it's like, like somewhat equal to.
DK
It's like being. It's like drunk drag. Like they are the most aware of the, of the, you know, cognitive decline that lack of sleep causes. It's just so weird.
Danny Hince
Email us at ringerfancy football gmail.com I know this is a lot of doctors who listen to show emails at ringerfancy football gmail.com for. I will take any crazy stories of just. I mean, it doesn't have to be like how hard you work, but I'll take them. But also just like, crazy shit's the wrong word. But just like, things you wouldn't believe, things if you don't know anything about medicine are just shocking about, like, going through medical school. Just the realities of how it works is because it's. It's also. I told this whole time, it's the only thing that's like the NFL draft, where they're like, oh, you want to be a doctor?
Craig Korobeck
Cool.
Danny Hince
You have to go to this place for six years. And then you don't. Like, that's it.
DK
And then Kershaw's in.
Danny Hince
Now Kershaw's in. They're fucked. Oh, and the bases.
Craig Korobeck
Wait, two outs.
Danny Hince
Did he come in this or did he put him on base?
DK
I. I didn't see. I. I don't think he's been in the whole inning.
Danny Hince
Dude. Kershaw had that nice thing at the end of the regular season, and he got fucking worked in the nlcs and he, you know, has some playoff moments. People probably remember Shout Out Ryan o' Hanlon if he's listening to this episode. Who's the first person in the world who was like, clayton Kershaw sucks in the playoffs. He figured out first, we're just gonna sit here and watch this game.
DK
My brother in law ran into Clayton Kershaw on the streets of Boston like, two months ago. It was the best day of his life. He's a huge.
Danny Hince
What did he say?
DK
He just, like, went up to him and was like, hey, I'm a massive fan. This is so cool. I'm speaking to you. And then they took a photo. Kershaw was just, like, hanging out with his family in a park.
Craig Korobeck
That's rad. All right, anything else on?
Danny Hince
We've come this far.
Craig Korobeck
Wait, what was the. Did. Did we already do the. What, this lightning thing then?
DK
It was lightning.
Danny Hince
Okay, well, I mean, we're gonna.
DK
Three, two, count. Well, after this.
Danny Hince
After this pitch, Kershaw's about to blow this game. We're gonna end the show. I mean, I'll start doing the thank yous. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Kershaw, for blowing this game momentarily. He's gonna blow it.
Craig Korobeck
Brutal.
Danny Hince
Watch. Thank you, Lord.
DK
Lord.
Craig Korobeck
Oh, geez. Thank you, George Clinton.
Danny Hince
I don't want to hear from Dodgers fans who are mad, because every Dodgers fan, whether or not he blew it, is thinking that he's gonna blow it.
Craig Korobeck
Right? It's always has, like, these. The most random things. He has really strong opinions on.
Danny Hince
Kershaw I realized I watch way more baseball than you guys.
Craig Korobeck
Well, you definitely do. That's fair.
Danny Hince
Also, the last time he played, he what did he even. What did they score on him last time he pitched?
DK
What? What's what? George Clinton. What's the biggest George Clinton song?
Craig Korobeck
Oh, that's a good question. I'm not sure. I used to listen to this song called Bop Gun. That's really good. I don't know if it's actually George Clinton or if it's.
Danny Hince
All right, he did it. I'm wrong. Wow. Okay, good. I actually like Clayton Kershaw a lot. I'm happy that that was.
DK
Oh, he did the glove flip. I love the glove flip.
Danny Hince
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Date: October 28, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly (DK), Craig Horlbeck
In this episode, the crew recaps a dominant Chiefs win on Monday Night Football, delights in real-time World Series craziness featuring Shohei Ohtani, and helps listeners prep for fantasy football Week 9 with meticulous waiver wire analysis at every position. The hosts blend expert insights, signature tangents, trivia, and high-energy banter, making it both informative and entertaining for fantasy players and sports fans.
01:36–12:35
12:43–21:28 & sporadically threaded
21:28–66:19
21:28–38:42
39:51–58:42
58:14–66:19
66:19–69:59
“I think next year in fantasy Rashee Rice is going to be a first round pick.” [04:43]
“He’s a little bit more defense proof than I would say other guys in the top 10.” [04:39]
“He’s like finding space against zones … It’s like Travis Kelce. He can sit in zones and find pockets and maneuver.” [06:52–06:56]
“I kind of just think the Super Bowl is going to be Chiefs-Eagles again.” [09:02]
“Ohtani ... this is the craziest thing that's happened in my life in sports. I don't think that's unfair to say he's the best player, he's the best hitter.” [13:12]
“It’s easily the best contract in baseball ... up there with the best contracts in the history of sports because it’s gonna save fucking baseball.” [14:00]
“She’s garbage. As far as I'm concerned, cheesesteaks are garbage.” (Craig, 23:43)
“Pierce is the deep guy … Steelers can't cover anyone. How many times are we going to talk about how the Colts have the most points per drive in the 21st century since the '07 Patriots?” (Heifetz, 44:01)
“Tank Bigsby is like the highest return. I don't think it's particularly close.” (Heifetz, 34:28)
“Fantasy is the stupidest thing ever.” — Danny Heifetz, 38:02
For all waiver wire and fantasy start/sit questions, email: ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com
Make sure to include your breakfast!