Draft Needs for All 32 Teams, the NFL’s Plan for 18 Games, DOJ Case Explained, and Tom Harmon Is Missing Again

Summary

The Ringer NFL Draft Show (April 13, 2026)

Episode: Draft Needs for All 32 Teams, NFL’s 18-Game Plan, DOJ Case Explained, and Tom Harmon Is Missing Again

Hosts: Danny Heifetz (Hyperten), Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Summary Prepared by: Podcast Summarizer

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Episode Overview

This richly-detailed (and Best Sports Podcast-nominated) episode delves into:

• Analyzing draft needs for all 32 NFL teams
• The NFL’s potential move to an 18-game regular season, impact on labor and media deals
• Why the Department of Justice is scrutinizing NFL broadcast (and streaming) deals
• Surprising NFL trivia & historical tales (including the mysterious story of Tom Harmon)

The hosts mix sharp, insider football talk with their signature humor and pop culture tangents, making it accessible and lively for all listeners.

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Main Topics & Timestamps

• [01:15] Pre-show Note: Eagles–Packers trade and the A.J. Brown trade watch
• [02:41] DOJ v. NFL Streaming, Media Rights & Antitrust: Why is watching the NFL so expensive?
• [07:00] 18-Game NFL Season? Labor, money, and Super Bowl scheduling intrigue
• [12:02] How Teams Really Draft: Best-player-available vs. positional needs
• [15:14] Team-by-Team 2026 NFL Draft Needs (in draft order, deep analysis through the entire episode)
• [85:05] The Moon, Tidal Locking—Listener Mailbag
• [91:19] Old 98! The Incredible Life of Tom Harmon
• [103:56] SNL Documentary & Avicii Chat

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In-Depth Section Summaries

1. Pre-Show Note: Eagles–Packers Trade & A.J. Brown Watch ([01:15])

• Danny Kelly notes that right after taping, the Eagles traded picks to the Packers for WR Dontavian Wicks, increasing speculation A.J. Brown will be traded—“only makes us feel a little stronger that AJ Brown is going to get traded.” (01:15)
• The group expects a Brown trade—“maybe during the draft, maybe after”—depending on cap implications.

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2. The DOJ v. NFL Streaming & Broadcasting ([02:41])

Key Points:

• NFL fans must subscribe to 7–8 services (“if you actually want to watch every game, it’s like $800 almost”—Danny Kelly at 03:11)
• The DOJ’s case claims NFL is acting as an illegal broadcast cartel, exploiting an antitrust exemption written before “the Internet” existed.
• “When businesses collude to set prices, that's called a cartel… and the NFL is legally a cartel.”—Danny Kelly (03:18)
• Now, streaming wasn’t part of the 1961 law—so DOJ is asking: “is the NFL putting football games on streamers—does that count as broadcasting under the law?”
• Consensus: This will “delay” new media deals, actually helping the NFL by drawing out negotiations with networks and streamers.

Memorable Exchange:

“I don’t think anything’s going to happen here. …this investigation could actually be good for the NFL… because they can secure more lucrative deals after they finalize the move to 18 games.”—Craig (05:03)

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3. NFL Wants 18 Games: Why, When, What Changes? ([07:00])

• NFL wants to expand to an 18-game season (plus two Bye weeks = 20-week campaign) before 2027’s media deals.
• Super Bowl date for 2028 is still “TBD,” a negotiation tactic linked to game expansion.
• They want to “kick off Labor Day” or after, pushing the Super Bowl as late as Feb 27.
• Fantasy implications: more (and trickier) bye weeks, but solves the “championship during Christmas” problem.
• Players’ union and league haggling: Owners propose that “every player can play only 17 games,” forcing rotation rather than raising pay—"The owners: 'Anything other than a raise!'" (10:17)

Notable Dialogue:

“Adolescence of the NFL… Right now everyone’s got braces. It just looks weird. The records…”—Danny Hyperten (11:47)

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4. How Do NFL Teams Draft—Best Player vs. Need? ([12:02])

• Hosts debunk the PR “we take the best player available” claim: Teams primarily draft for positional needs, especially in the 1st round.
• Some teams fill starting positions (e.g., 49ers, Eagles), others draft for the future (e.g., Bengals redshirting rookies).
• Teams adjust their draft boards to “game it”—ranking positions of need higher, then justify with “best player available” talking points.

“What a great coincidence. We need a left tackle. And seven of the top nine players are left tackles. How great!”—Danny Kelly (14:31)

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5. 2026: Draft Needs for All 32 Teams (Walkthrough) ([15:14] onward)

Highlights & Notable Quotes by Segment

[15:14] Raiders (#1 pick):

• “You have to just make Fernando Mendoza’s life easy.”—Heifetz
• Need: OL, WR, beefy “nose tackle.”
• Max Crosby's fate: Most expect he’s traded, but knee issues may reduce the return.

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[17:41] Jets (#2):

• “They need a receiver who can get 400 yards ...the Jets were the first team not to have a 400-yard receiver… ever.”—Danny Kelly
• Main needs: Disruptive edge rusher (Arvell Reese vs. David Bailey), WR, future QB.

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[22:25] Cardinals, Titans, Giants, Browns (Top 6):

• Consensus: If you don’t have your QB, build trenches and set up “the bird's nest.”
• Multiple teams (Cards, Browns) debated: OL vs. WR (Cardinal Tate)
• “It's the deepest position in the draft, you can get a receiver later!”—Danny Kelly (25:58)

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[33:00] Commanders & Saints:

• Both teams lack depth at WR/RB behind top starters; Saints need defense, Commanders may pursue Brandon Aiyuk trade.
• “Once you know you have the guy [QB], it’s time to start shopping!”—Craig

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[38:59] Chiefs (#9):

• “The single biggest need for the Chiefs is a right tackle—protect Mahomes!”—Danny Kelly
• “Andy Reid refuses to QB sneak Mahomes ever since the kneecap...they’re not going to cheap out after that.”
• WR options possible (Carnell Tate), but O-line likely.

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[42:12] Bengals & Cowboys:

• Both need defensive help everywhere.
• “The Bengals might have been the only team in 70 or 80 years to start two rookie inside linebackers as the starters...” (42:54)

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[48:02] Rams:

• Rams' draft MO: “Whatever will help us win a Super Bowl immediately.”
• “I could see the Rams trading for Max Crosby—Rams don’t care about picks, want to win now, Crosby fits.”—Craig (49:35)

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[53:24] Ravens, Bucs, Colts, Lions, Vikings, Panthers, Packers, Steelers, Chargers

• Runs through each:
  • Ravens: Need TE, O-line, run-stopping edge, defense esp. if Reuben Bain falls.
  • Bucs: Pass rush; edge, not a “project.”
  • Colts: Need to replace departed stars across the roster.
  • Lions: Predicting a trade-up for a “mauler” O-lineman; “return to that Dan Campbell identity.”
  • Packers: “Lost the most players in free agency, lack depth everywhere now.” (60:46)
  • Steelers: Need OL; left side especially vulnerable for aging Aaron Rodgers at QB.

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[66:08] Chargers:

• “If they don’t take a goddamn offensive lineman, I’m going to freak out!”—Craig
• Injuries and depth have battered the line; could see the deepest OL in Harbaugh’s image.

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[66:49] Eagles:

• “Eagles got great because their OL and DL were impossibly talented and deep. Not the case now.”
• Need: replace A.J. Brown, Lane Johnson successor, DL, overall depth.

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[68:37] Jaguars, Bears, Bills, 49ers, Texans, Falcons:

• Jaguars: Roster continuity, but need more D-line/DBs for a Super Bowl push
• Bears: Offense is Super Bowl-caliber; defense not close—“need some real beef”
• Bills: “Just need a pass rusher”
• 49ers: Aging/future holes (Williams, Kittle, McCaffrey), but need G/S for 2026 push
• Texans: “Need almost nothing” except “guards and D-tackles”
• Falcons: Behind Drake London, “quietly no WRs left”

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[82:04] Seahawks (#32):

• “You won the Super Bowl, you don't need much.”
• But lack picks (only 4) and could trade out to reload.

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Note: Other teams’ detailed, fun needs analysis throughout the episode—see transcript for specifics.

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6. Listener Mailbag: The Moon, Tidal Locking & Physics ([85:05])

• Listeners respond to the hosts’ (humorous) uncertainty about whether the moon spins relative to the Earth.
• “We got a lot of emails… a physics student explained: The moon is spinning, but does so at the same rate it orbits the Earth, so we always see the same face (‘tidal locking’).” (86:40)
• Amusing musing on tides, gravity, and the likelihood of Neil deGrasse Tyson as a future guest.

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7. The Incredible Life of Tom Harmon (“Old 98”) ([91:19])

- Legendary college tailback, Heisman winner, war hero, inspiration for a broadcaster son (Mark Harmon)

• Shot down and lost twice behind enemy lines in WWII—hence “Harmon Missing Again” (92:45)
• Survived jungle crash, rescued by villagers, got malaria, made it back.
• Shot down again over China, survived 30+ days, returned to marry actress Elise Knox—wedding dress sewn from his parachute.
• After the war: short NFL career, then famous broadcaster, father of actor Mark Harmon.
• Hosts marvel at how wild, historical NFL lives used to be.

“We keep losing this guy. Where’s he going? Harmon is missing—again.”—DK (91:49)

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8. Closing, SNL Documentary, Avicii & Pop Culture ([103:56])

• Craig recommends the new Lorne documentary & reminisces about SNL and Avicii (“put Avicii’s TOP 5 against anyone!”).
• Humorous closing (“My dad just discovered Avicii…”)

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• “What a great coincidence. We need a left tackle. And seven of the top nine players are left tackles.”—Danny Kelly (14:31)
• “The adolescence of the NFL. Right now everyone’s got braces. It just looks weird.”—Danny Hyperten (11:47)
• “The problem is, when Congress wrote this [NFL antitrust] bill, there was no Internet... the DOJ is saying, whoa, these games on the Internet… not in your cartel legalization bill 60 years ago.”—Danny Kelly (03:18)
• “Adolescence of the NFL… Some kids aren’t using deodorant. Greasy hair everywhere.”—on the current weirdness of NFL schedule (11:53)
• “You have to just make Fernando Mendoza’s life easy.”—on Raiders’ draft focus (15:14)
• “You don’t want me to be happy.”—multiple hosts, on the heartbreak of running back picks, NFL fandom (34:14+)

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Notables & Easter Eggs

• NFL media, antitrust, and business intrigue: Particularly sharp and relevant discussions (including the impact of streaming on legal exemptions).
• Draft philosophy breakdown, not just team-by-team, but across front offices and in the context of economic trends.
• “Tom Harmon Is Missing Again”—the WWII football hero anecdote segment is outstanding (for football and history buffs alike).
• Pop culture takes: Avicii music theory, SNL movie recs, and more.

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Conclusion

This episode is a deep, lively primer for 2026’s draft, NFL business behind the scenes, and a window into the Ringer Draft Show’s secret sauce: serious, informed football commentary with wit, pop culture, and genuine love for the weirdness of sports and history.

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TL;DR:

If you want the most up-to-date, nuanced “what your NFL team needs” rundown—plus why the NFL is angling for 18 games and are secretly happy about a DOJ investigation—this episode is must-listen. Also, you will learn about Heisman winners disappearing in the jungle, the (literal) dark side of the moon, and why Andy Reid will never QB sneak Mahomes again.

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Transcript

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[Danny Kelly]

Hey everyone, quick note before we start. So right after we finished recording this and we recorded this episode on Friday, April 10, the Eagles traded a fifth round pick this year and a sixth round pick next year to the packers for Dontavian Wicks the receiver. Which only makes us feel a little stronger that AJ Brown is going to get traded. We don't know when, but we talked about the pretty good amount in this episode, but only makes us feel stronger. We don't know when. Maybe during the draft, maybe after the draft or closer to the season because of the timing of how it'll help the Eagles cap situation if they trade him. Probably a little after the draft, but just wanted to note that it is just more smoke that we do think the Eagles are probably going to deal A.J. brown at some point. So without any further ado we will get to the show. Welcome to the Ringer NFL Draft Show, AKA the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Hyperten, I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korbeck and today we were going over the team needs for all 32 teams. Literally what every team in the NFL needs in the draft, which is only in two weeks.

[Craig Korbeck]

If you don't like listening and you like reading, which I don't think anyone in the world prefers that these days with these crazy kids. But if you do, if you're like over 60 years old, NFL draft the ringer.com heifetz has all of his team needs on the website. You can go through all this and look at it and scroll and have a great time. And you actually do that while listening to us.

[Danny Kelly]

You could go and scroll through them with your thumb or on a computer with Your Mouse, or DK's Guides and Needs and mock drafts and everything there@NFL draft.the com or you could just hear us talk about it. It. So we're gonna go through all 32 first. I want to start, though, with this news. DK, the Department of Justice says it's too expensive to watch football.

[Craig Korbeck]

What say you, Daniel?

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, I think I would agree. There's just too many places to watch the NFL right now. I mean, you have to buy how many subscriptions you have to buy to watch every game? Like eight?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, something like that. Seven or eight.

[Danny Kelly]

I think the number they put on it was if you actually want to watch every game, it's like 800 almost to watch every single game.

[Danny Hyperten]

That seems a bit much.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a lot. So I, I think this is a big enough story. I wanted to just mention it. And I, I, I didn't even know the right way to explain it without it. The reason what this is all happening is basically the NFL. This is obvious, but it's also the point. The NFL is 32 different businesses, but they all sell the same product, which is just. They have football games. And then those 32 businesses collude to fix the price of what they sell football games as. And when businesses collude to set prices, that's called a cartel, like drug cartels or oil and opec. And the NFL is legally a cartel, but you're not allowed to be a cartel in America. So they actually got Congress to make it legal for the NFL to be a cartel in 1961. But the problem is, when Congress wrote this bill, there was no Internet, and they put the word broadcasting in the bill. So now what the Department of Justice is saying is, whoa, like, these games on the Internet, that wasn't include in your cartel legalization bill 60 years ago? So is the NFL putting football games on streamers? Is that actually broadcasting? If it's actually like, a pretty narrow cast for money?

[Danny Hyperten]

Hmm. My first thought, don't they have anything better to do? I mean, I'm happy that the Department

[Craig Korbeck]

of Justice, like, it's just funny, like,

[Danny Hyperten]

they have a finite amount of people probably working in the Department of Justice, and like, right now they're like, we're going to fucking Take down NFL streaming.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, like, Pam Bondi gets fired, and they're just like, you know what, Pam? You weren't doing a good enough job.

[Craig Korbeck]

I mean, Trump negotiated a ceasefire so he could fix the portal, which I'm. I'm like, that's cool, right? It's a mess right now out there.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe that's what we're straight of our moods. We need a portal.

[Danny Hyperten]

Weird priorities, really.

[Danny Kelly]

Just need a transfer portal.

[Craig Korbeck]

It all comes down to you need a portal. What's funny about this whole thing is it seems like this. I don't think anything's going to happen here. Like, this is. I don't think this is going to change anything. I think the NFL is going to win. But this, this investigation actually then could be good for the NFL. Shocker. Everything's usually good for the NFL because the NFL is in the process of negotiating its rights with broadcasters and streamers, and they're basically just trying to get a bunch more money from all the people that air the games. And this all happened because when David Ellison, the son of Larry Ellison, who has Oracle, when David Ellison bought Paramount, it issued a change of ownership clause that basically the NFL had a relationship with Paramount. But when David Ellison came in is like, I now own Paramount. That allowed the NFL to start renegotiating its rights with Paramount. So now the NFL is like, actually, even though we have all of these deals set up with like, Comcast and all Disney and all these companies through, like the2030s, they're like, we're just actually going to renegotiate right now, and we're going to extend new deals right now, and we're going to make you all pay more money right now. And basically it's because the NBA kind of fucked everything up. Because when the NBA renegotiated its rights with all these companies right now, Comcast, which has like NBC, Peacock, all that stuff, Comcast pays the NBA $2.5 billion a year for basketball. Comcast pays the NFL 2 billion a year for football. They pay less.

[Danny Kelly]

The Christian Kirk, that. It's the Christian Kirk deal, 90 million a year. And Devonte Adams, Tyree Killer, like, what did you just say?

[Craig Korbeck]

They pay less for football than they do basketball.

[Danny Hyperten]

Tyler Linder, bomb deal. All other teams are like, we're gonna have to pay so much for a center.

[Craig Korbeck]

Price of the brick went up, right? So the NFL's like that. And so. But back to the department. Basketball back.

[Danny Hyperten]

They're like, are you serious? Basketball? You're paying that for basketball?

[Craig Korbeck]

For Tanking teams.

[Danny Kelly]

And I love your point that the NFL and all these deals, they had a hey, just in, we have a if you get bought for $100 billion clause, we get to do this whole contract over again.

[Craig Korbeck]

But the reason why this is good for the NFL is because this Department of Justice investigation is going to delay things. Because what the NFL wants is to go from 17 games to 18 games. They want teams to play 18 games and they want it done before 2027. And they want to go from they want to go one bye week to two bye weeks. So an 18 week season to a 20 week season, the 20 week season, 18 games played plus two bye weeks. And when they agree to that, which they're trying to negotiate with the NFLPA and JC Tretter right now, that's so many more games you can sell. So basically this Department of Justice investigation will delay these rights deals enough that hopefully they can then agree with the NFLPA on an 18 game season before they start renegotiating these rights with all these broadcasters. Because if they do successfully now they have a bunch more games, they can sell way more money and they can charge way more for these rights if it's a 20 week season versus an 18 game season. And it's why the 2028 Super bowl, which is really the 2027 season, they don't have a date yet. They're refusing to set a date for that super bowl because if they set the date, then they are committing on a 17 game season.

[Danny Hyperten]

Right.

[Craig Korbeck]

So it just says February 2028 in Atlanta. And it will likely be depending on whether the NFL, if they successfully do this, if they successfully get an 18 game season by 2027, the NFL is either going to kick off on Labor Day weekend and we're going to have a February 20th Super bowl or, or it's going to kick off the weekend after Labor Day and we're going to have a February 27th Super bowl in 2028.

[Danny Hyperten]

Whoa.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I think what they would do is they would put it after President's Day weekend. Right. So you have a three day. So basically people would have the day off after like the Super Bowl.

[Craig Korbeck]

It depends when they start holiday. The NFL doesn't like Labor Day weekend because they think no one's around to watch. But now that's like kind of changed because everyone's on their phones and stuff. So they might actually want to start Labor Day weekend. So they're deciding on that. But long story short, that is why this whole delayed investigation thing might help them actually negotiate an 18 game season and then get even more money from all these broadcasters and streamers.

[Danny Hyperten]

Whoa, interesting.

[Danny Kelly]

Thanks for making the NFL more money. Doj. There we go. That's.

[Danny Hyperten]

Are they colluding with the doj is the first question I have.

[Craig Korbeck]

Also procrastination maybe.

[Danny Hyperten]

Second question. Did you cover this on the town? Because that was extremely well researched. Craig, good job.

[Craig Korbeck]

Not really, but Puck, Matt's company is covering it. John Arand, who has a sports newsletter for Puck, does a good job covering it.

[Danny Kelly]

So.

[Craig Korbeck]

And we've talked about a little bit on the town. We talked about the right stuff mainly. But yeah, interesting.

[Danny Hyperten]

18 games already coming up. I feel like 18 games is sort of just on the horizon, but it feels further away. I know in two, like not next year, but the year after that they go to an 18 game season and that's kind of crazy.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's gonna add two weeks to the

[Danny Hyperten]

season because it's gonna make fantasy kind of a weird nightmare and we're gonna have to figure out when to do the playoffs.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it'll be better. It'll be better for fantasy. That bye weeks will be annoying, but it'll be better that the championship's not on Christmas anymore. Championship week doesn'. Wednesday.

[Danny Hyperten]

That would be nice. The other thing I heard somebody was saying maybe this was just an idea of how to negotiate with the NFLPA, but it was like all players only play 17 games, so then they have to figure out how to rotate it.

[Danny Kelly]

I.

[Danny Hyperten]

You know what I mean, this is just an idea. I don't think it's actually going to happen. But to make it easier on the players, you only can play 17 games and then NFL teams have to figure out how to kind of rotate.

[Danny Kelly]

That's. Well, no, no, it's because the players.

[Danny Hyperten]

Players don't want another game.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it's because the players want more money. Because when you go from this five year, six year period, you've gone from a 16 game season to an eight game, 18 game season over the course of a four year rookie contract. That's half a season. So basically now players are playing four and a half years instead of four years under contract for the same amount of money. So the NFLPA is like, you're gonna have to give us a raise. And NFL owners are like, fine, fuck it, just play less games. We don't care. Like anything other than a raise. They won't even pay the referees to avoid a ref lockout. They're not going to give the player. So that's what that whole like, oh, players only play 17 games thing. It's so that the reunion can't bitch and moan about like having more games over the contract life. Anyway, the point being is I think it'd be cool if the super bowl was a three day weekend and that imagine if you could drink and party night. Like there was no work the next day. And they're going to create a like. Honestly I think of it as winter,

[Danny Hyperten]

like a national holiday.

[Craig Korbeck]

That to me that's not worth adding two more weeks.

[Danny Kelly]

But Craig, we know hate money.

[Craig Korbeck]

20 week season.

[Danny Kelly]

This guy hates money.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig's like, I want shorter movies and shorter, shorter seasons.

[Craig Korbeck]

I want a 16 game season. I, you know, I liked when you could go eight.

[Danny Hyperten]

Sixteen was good.

[Craig Korbeck]

I liked when you go eight.

[Danny Hyperten]

Perfect.

[Craig Korbeck]

Now I don't want to see nine and nine. That's nasty. Like can we discuss what the records would look like? So now you can be 14 and 4. Do we like that?

[Danny Kelly]

That's better than 4. I mean that's the odd numbers is horrific.

[Danny Hyperten]

I just don't really, I don't like the 17 game season.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it's bad. Yeah, it's a weird in between. We're gonna like this is just a weird awkward phase because the NFL didn't. They never. No one ever walked.

[Danny Hyperten]

Adolescents of the NFL. Right now everyone's got braces. It just looks weird. The records people.

[Danny Kelly]

Some of the kids aren't using deodorant.

[Danny Hyperten]

You're like, dude, you got the greasy ass hair.

[Craig Korbeck]

They got shin splints.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh yeah, it's terrific.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

With that said, let's get into the team needs here again. So I wrote just the breakdown of the team needs for every team which and just to reiterate why this matters beyond the obvious, because I think a lot of people email us over the years and they're like, why do you talk so much about what a team needs? When you always say, and everyone always says you should just take the best player available and it's a great question. And the answer is because most teams are lying when they say we take the best player available. They usually just take what they need. And every team when the first round ends is just taking positions they need. Unless a crazy value falls and dk, tell me if you disagree. Honestly, it's actually a lot rarer than you think that a team just takes the best player available regardless of position.

[Danny Hyperten]

I think. Yeah, that is an interesting point. I do think there's surprises every year though. You know what I mean? Like it maybe it's not, it's not always Our common or maybe the most common thing. But I feel like every year in the draft, we're like, oh, they took that position. I was not expecting that. No one really put that in a mock draft. It feels like it happens every year.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, things change when players fall that you had higher on the board and they, they fault. I mean, it's, it's. It happens in a fantasy draft. Like, you could start. You could start wide receiver, wide receiver. And then the third round rolls around and Puka's there and you're like, I guess I take a third one now. Yeah, just because it's the right guy.

[Danny Kelly]

And the thing other with needs is some teams use free agency to be like, we can take any team now. Some teams look at the draft and they're like, you know, there's no running backs. The Texans need to trade for David Montgomery because we won't get a running back in the draft this year. And then they can look at other positions. The other thing I'd say is the idea of a need is different for other teams. Some teams are like, I want a starter this year. Like, Dave Canal just said that two weeks ago. The head coach of the Panthers, he was like, why would I draft not a back a guy who's not going to start for me this year? Kyle Shannon for the 49ers is like, I want starters. Even it's a kicker in the third round. Shannon's like, well, he would start. Other teams, like, the Eagles are thinking a year or the Bengals are looking at needs next year. They don't necessarily expect rookies to play all the time. The Bengals are usually looking at this guy can red shirt for a year and then play the following season. I try to say that a lot. Yeah. The Eagles took Cam Juergens before Travis Kelce retired. Then when Travis Kelsey retired, he started the young roster. So when I look at the needs and if fans are mad at me, I try to keep in mind what the team actually considers, like how they think of themselves instead of just like what holes they need. So with that, the other thing to

[Danny Hyperten]

add to that real quick, I had. I think I heard Daniel Jeremiah say this, but some teams just kind of game it a little bit where they give. They make their board have players that they need a little bit more, a little bit higher. So they're like, we go, we took the best player on our board, which just so happened to be a need that they have.

[Danny Kelly]

What a great coincidence. We need a left tackle. And seven of the top nine players are left tackles. How Great. So with that said, we can go through the teams. I'm just going to go into the order of the draft roughly with slotting in the actual teams that aren't picking the first round too. But I want to start the Raiders. They're taking Fernando Mendoza first. We don't have to pretend they're not. I feel like the biggest need for the Raiders is like, you have to just make Fernando Mendoza's life easy. And I feel like the answer here is like, maybe they want a right tackle. They probably need a number one receiver reel that isn't just Brock Bowers or Michael Merritt tight end. But honestly, like, I still think they need defense and nose tackle and trenches. Like, I. I just think that that is the key. Like, they did a lot of defense, but I think dk, we'll talk about these guys a lot, but like Kaden McDonald from Ohio State or Peter woods from Clemson, I think they need a beefy boy right there in the middle. But I also just think Elijah, Sarah Sarat, the receiver from Indiana, like, he. The Raiders should actually take him on the. On.

[Danny Hyperten]

You've kind of radicalized me on this a little bit in terms of why that makes so much sense. Obviously the, the chemistry that he has, Elijah Surratt has with Fernando Mendoza in terms of just like that back shoulder connection that they have. He's a big possession receiver. They don't really have another guy like that at the receiver core. I. I guess you could say Jack Besh was supposed to be that, but he has not turned into that one.

[Craig Korbeck]

They don't have any wide receivers. I mean, I mean, yeah, they have a bunch of guys who are like fill ins or dudes. You don't know if they're good. Jack Best, Trey Tucker, Jalen Naylor, Dante.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, they paid a bunch for Jalen Naylor in the off season.

[Danny Kelly]

It was.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. So I would say either second or third round, you've got it laid out like a defender and then a receiver here and your team needs saying. I think maybe just flip those either way because there's going to be a good receiver at 39 too. So I think that makes a lot of sense. This is why Austin was apoplectic once the. The Max Crosby trade went back because he was like, oh, we get makai lemon at 13. We get Jordan Tyson at 13.

[Danny Kelly]

They kept calling Vegas, you want a. Because Veggie wanted the Penn State.

[Danny Hyperten]

Totally.

[Danny Kelly]

It was like, great. Plug him in. And then. So that's my other question for you before we move off the Raiders, dk Let me give you three options. Max Crosby is traded on draft day or draft weekend. Max Crosby is traded. Michael Parsons timeline, like a week before the season or Michael or Max Crosby plays for the Raiders this year. Which of those options would you pick?

[Danny Hyperten]

I think he's gonna be traded. I still think it makes the most sense to trade him.

[Craig Korbeck]

It makes the most sense to trade him. But I mean how much value are you going to get from him after he failed a physical and now like this knee issue is just so much more of a thing.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean not two first round, not two first rounders.

[Craig Korbeck]

Probably like no matter what you're, you're going to be taking a cut and it's going to look bad.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. But I, I still think it makes sense for the, for the health of the franchise long term. I mean, like you said on the last show a couple shows ago, they're not beating the Broncos, the Chiefs and Chargers this year. It just makes so much more sense. Even if you are taking, you know, sense on the dollar or whatever in terms of what you can get back. I, I. Did anyone think they were going to get two first rounders before the Ravens did that? I don't think bought that. So it was great that they got it and it felt awesome and it felt like a great deal for the Raiders. But now we're back to reality where it's probably not going to happen. It's going to be a first and change.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. But also next year's draft is so good that I, I think the 20, 21st and a second next year. I, I think the Raiders still might want to do that. We'll see what happens.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

The jets have the number two pick. I put the needs as I mean a quarterback but there isn't one to take it to. They need a receiver who can get 400 yards because the jets were the first team did not have a 400 receiver of any team that's ever played.

[Craig Korbeck]

They have a receiver that can get 400 yards.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, they need another one.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Unless you look like A.D. mitchell. And then I also think the jets need an interception. I'm not a football expert.

[Danny Hyperten]

Just one.

[Danny Kelly]

One.

[Danny Hyperten]

Just give me one.

[Danny Kelly]

Only team did not intercept a pass since they started keeping track before World War II. But I just think the number they just need disruption the past. The jets literally, they were dead last in pressuring quarterback last year which, that's the real problem. The interception thing is they had the second fewest sacks and the fewest quarterback pressures.

[Craig Korbeck]

So.

[Danny Kelly]

Dk.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you think the jets do here with Arville Reese, the Ohio State linebacker, edge rusher, hybrid player, versus David Bailey, more traditional defensive end, outside linebacker, pass rusher. I feel like David Bailey makes more sense for Aaron Glenn, but Arvel Reese probably makes more sense for the jets franchise. And I'm curious what you think the jets should do, but also what the jets will do.

[Danny Hyperten]

I think they should draft Arvell Reese. I think that. I think whether you see him as an off ball linebacker or edge rusher or kind of a hybrid between the two, I think he's the best player. And I think they've done actually a pretty good job of. Of what we call like draft hedging where you don't have to take any particular position. And I think the fans will be fine with whatever they end up doing here. But from a roster point of view, for being a very bad team and having been a bad team for a long time, like they have some pieces, they have like a good offensive line at least in theory. The theoretical what this offensive line could be, I think is a top 10 unit potentially. You know, pretty quickly here. They have some good skill players and Garrett Wilson and Reese hall, you know, I think that they're set up to basically choose what they think is the best player. I know that we just talked about how teams don't really do that, but I really do think in this case Arvel Reese is the best player. He has the highest upside.

[Danny Kelly]

David Bailey. Do you think that's like. Yeah. Different flavors. You're like, that's dumb.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't think it's a dumb pick. I think it's. But I think they should pick Arval Reese. I'm not going to because he's like right up there with Arvell Reese on my rankings, I've got him sixth overall or seventh overall. Yeah. And Reese number two. So it's not like a reach or a crazy pick or anything like that. He's more of a traditional and proven just edge rusher type. But I do just think Reese has a higher upside overall in terms of his versatility. What he can do.

[Craig Korbeck]

The jets have four picks in the first 44 picks of the draft. They're in a good spot with because they have. They have 102 and they have 116. That's a great spot for a wide receiver. Yeah, that's. The 16 is a perfect spot to go get like your Jordan, Tyson, Makai, Lemon, whoever Casey Concepcion pick your.

[Danny Hyperten]

From a team building point of view, I know a lot of people are kind of connecting Them to ty Simpson at 16 or maybe try and trade up into the late first round and get him. I'm like man it. I just think they're gonna be so much better off if they just take a, you know, as rusher early on a receiver, you know, maybe another offensive lineman or whatever. Just build trenches and then take your quarterback next year. They're loaded up for next year. They can move around. Even if they don't get the top guy, they still can get a very good quarterback because there's in theory again this is all threat theoretical but there's going to be like a multiple quarterbacks I think worth taking in the first round next year. I just think from a team building point of view and process wise they should just load up this year with those top, you know, 116 picks or whatever.

[Craig Korbeck]

They have two or three first rounders next year. They have the Colts one. They have their own. Do they have a third?

[Danny Kelly]

They have three. You're right. They have the Colts one from the sauce Gardner trade and they have the Cowboys first rounder. So the jets have three first rounders next year in a huge draft so they can get a quarterback. And I think that's the thing is like when you don't have the quarterback you build the bird's nest so the guy can succeed. I the jets also had the first pick of the second round this year which is also a great spot to collect more picks because you can usually a team gets all frothed up over some guy that fell to the first round and you can usually get a pretty good trade package to only move down a few spots in the top of the second round too. So the jets are gonna vibes. Vibes gonna be great after the draft for the Jets.

[Craig Korbeck]

I mean look, are the jets gonna be a top a bottom 10 team in the NFL next year? Probably. I mean the Colts could be a bottom 10 team. I mean they could have two top 10 picks.

[Danny Kelly]

There's a world. The Colts. Yes. I think the Colts could come at last in the division and give them

[Danny Hyperten]

like the Falcons thing from this last year.

[Craig Korbeck]

100%.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

The next. So number three, the Arizona Cardinals. I think this is like the same position as the Jets. They want a quarterback this year. They don't have one. So your alternative is you go get a veteran and you just build around them and try to get a quarterback next year. So the, the Cardinals, it's like I have right tackle defense on trade down. I don't think anything crazy here. They have some, they have you know they could go get a right tackle pair with Paris Johnson. Dk. I'm curious if you what would you do if you were running the Cardinals? Would you want to take let's say the jets take our valve Reese, would you take David Bailey edge rusher here? Would you want to go right tackle or do you think like Francis Marino is a reach?

[Danny Hyperten]

I think they should take a right tackle. Whether they like Fano or Fano or Maui Noah more, that's up to them. I've got those two guys right next to each other. I have Maui Noah just slightly higher. But I think they should take a right tackle, build out their offensive line, you know, and be have the ability to be prepared for when you do land your quarterback of the future. You have a good offensive line you can use. You can use those guys and they're helping out in the run game. I think if it's you said something the quote where the offensive linemen help everyone else on the field.

[Danny Kelly]

Only position that helps everybody, even offensive defense. Defense.

[Danny Hyperten]

And so I think having the foundation, I mean it's just like a cliche at this point, but just get build a foundation before you build the house and that and that's where you get the quarterback later. You have good offensive line. That's I think the best way that they can do this. I think it's not a reach to take either of those offensive linemen at that spot in this drive, particularly in this draft because I don't think coming back into the second round they're going to be anybody worth starting at offensive line at offensive tackle in particular.

[Danny Kelly]

So I agree.

[Danny Hyperten]

I also think that's the smart thing to do.

[Danny Kelly]

The Cardinals could be the team that might trade back up for Ty Simpson. I don't know who is going to like him, but the Cardinals is the second pick of the second round. I wouldn't be shocked if they do what the Giants did last year where you give a couple thirds and you move up 10 spots and you get like the Giants got Jackson dart in the late first. I think the Cardinals may be one of those teams that do that for Ty Simpson. I wouldn't be shocked. The fourth team here is the Titans. We've talked about them a lot, I think, but just the tight. They need weapons for Cam Ward. Whether it's a running back like Jeremiah Love or receiver like Cardinal Tate or receiver later in the draft, they need another receiver because they don't have really have a big body at receiver or an explosive guy like Jeremiah left. They need someone to sell Season tickets next year, private seat, licenses, baby, someone on the ticket other than Cam Ward, whoever that is, and a defensive lineman for Robert Sala. I think the question's going to be is it like David Bailey as in like a great prototypical defensive lineman, first step, get up field guy for Robert Sala or do they go Jeremiah Love? I, I, it probably makes more sense to go D lineman and then a receiver like a Denzel Boston in the beginning of the second round or maybe you trade him for him because they need a big body like that. But Deacon, where are you at? On if, if Jeremiah Love and David Baylor somehow both on the board for the Titans, what do you think they actually do?

[Danny Hyperten]

I think right now I feel like they take the pass rusher did I because and the reason, the only reason I lean that way. I think I saw Adam Schefter report maybe it was a week or two ago that he, he does not think the Titans are leaning towards Jeremiah Love, which I think is the right move for them. As much as I, you know, as much as I'm sure Titans fans would love to see Jeremiah Love there, he's an exciting player. There's something to get happy, like excited and happy about and you get to that sells tickets, blah blah, blah. I just don't think it's, it's the right move for the franchise in the long term. I think they'd be much better off and it's like they made all these moves in off season. I, how much better is their pass rush? I mean if Jermaine Johnson is, is healthy and really good, that helps. But they still need pass rushers. So I would probably just, I would go Bailey or you know, if they like one of the other pass rushers a little bit more have that. But like I don't know. To me taking a running back is, we've, we've just seen this so many times. It's not going to help you, it's not going to help your team long term.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, I, yeah, I mean then, then they have to take a wide receiver at the third pick of the second round. Whether it's like a Denver, Denzel Boston or something like that. Because, but, but if there's no one there, like if they get screwed at that point, they're really heading into this year with not a whole lot. I mean you have Calvin Ridley, you have Eli Manor. The running back is still Tony Pollard or tight end is Gunner Helm like year two under Cam Ward. That is not what you want.

[Danny Hyperten]

What about Carnel Tate? Is it too early for Colonel Tate here, I think.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I think that's, I, I, I personally this is, I mean this is the same conversation with the Giants at 5 or the Browns at 6 where I'm like, I like Cardinal Tate a lot but I just think the history of receiver in it, it's also just scarcity. It's like it's the deepest position in the draft. You can get a serviceable receiver at the top of the second round. Yeah, but you aren't going to get an offensive tackle. There are defensive ends, but the defensive ends in the second round are not as high up. It's completely different than the defensive ends available in the top of the first round. It just makes more sense to me to get receiver later. Also AJ Brown's available if you want to trade for him. And also Chris Bell who's like maybe Tennessee's best shot at AJ Brown since AJ Brown. Like that could be the guy the Titans take in the second round or depending on the medicals go, maybe they trade up from the third. So I, I think, I think David Bailey is the best plan and then the Titans just go for receiver later.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, what if it starts Mendoza Reese Bailey and then they're deciding between Ruben Bane and Jeremiah Love or whoever else Sonny Styles what do they do?

[Danny Kelly]

I think Jeremiah, I think the Titans would take Jeremiah Love in that situation because I don't think, I think Robert Salah will care about Ruben Bane's arm length. I think that Robert Sal is more likely to care but Robert Sala would probably prefer David Bailey is my guess. And then I think if Bane is But I do think Reuben Bain most. I think like Ruben Bay gets the Washington I think that that's the lowest he'll go. I think Ruben Bane could go really high.

[Danny Hyperten]

Could they take an offensive lineman? I know that they've got some guys already but Titans?

[Danny Kelly]

No, I, I'd be really shocked because they have, they've spent a lot of money in picks there. I mean maybe, but I, I think the defensive players. Salah needs a stable of defensive line.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig brought out Sonny Styles. That's an interesting one.

[Danny Kelly]

It'd be like the Fred Warner thing for San Francisco and it depends how they feel about him but I, I just feel like it's about Cam Ward is, is the priority and I just think Dable's gonna be like one and Jeremiah might even be a better, he's probably a better receiver than Sake one. I mean Jeremiah loves different runner, different build but he has better hands than Saquon for sure.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah So I was listening to the McShay show the other day and he was talking about how Dabal had two picks he really wanted and it was the quarterback and the running back. It was, it was dart and scatter Boo. Obviously scatter Boo. This is like a fourth rounder. But he, he like basically got on the table, pounded his pound of the table for those two guys and he could see, McShay could see that happening here. If, especially if the guy that, that you know, the GM or the coach really, the head coach really wants is gone, maybe they do end up going with Jeremiah Love.

[Danny Kelly]

So. And speaking of Dable and Saquon, the Giants are not picking number five. This is funny. I mean if they trade Dexter Lawrence, Giants certainly do defensive tackle. I, you know, it's so funny. I feel like I have team blind this year. I feel like I've done so much research on all these other teams, I still have no idea what to do with the Giants at number five. I just to tell you guys the truth as a fan, my analyst brain has studied this and is like taking a running back at five is a mistake. My fan brain is like, I want them to do it already so I could just be excited that the Giants of Jeremiah Love. I, I don't care if it's bad.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's like when you were celebrating the frickin Tommy cutlets.

[Danny Kelly]

W. You know, it's, you know that meme of Elmo and Elmo on one hand is looking at all the rotting vegetables and the other one's just the pile of just white powder and Elmo's just like shoves his face. I'm like, give me the cool running back, please.

[Danny Hyperten]

Is there. Do they need a right tackle?

[Danny Kelly]

I think yes. They survive. Elementor to a deal for 13 million a year. He's 32 years old.

[Danny Hyperten]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Why would you pass up a good right tackle? Because your right tackle take a right tackle and also corner.

[Danny Hyperten]

Go home to your wife.

[Danny Kelly]

The Giants want to trade down really? Because they could use a cornerback. They could get later a right tackle. I think the Giants could go with all these things but I'm like, you probably. I don't know. I don't know why teams. Well, we have a 32 year old right tackle. We can't take one. I'm like, just fucking do it. But no one does.

[Danny Hyperten]

There's going to be one there, I think and I think you should just stay there and take one.

[Craig Korbeck]

I feel like with what this team wants to do, I don't know. The Harbaugh Era, they're going to run the ball, get an offensive lineman. You have, like, Patrick Ricard coming in. Like, they're. It's a different team now. I feel like you got to bulk

[Danny Kelly]

up the offensive line, but which one they have. They have. They have two tackles, and there probably isn't a guard good enough. So it's like, if you trade down. But the problem is, like, it's kind of a reach to take. Like, you could take a cornerback here as safety. It's. It's. There's not. It's. They're not. They're kind of in between two things. Part of me is defensive line makes sense, but they have Abdul Carter and Brian Burns, so, like, well, we can't take Ruben Bane because we have two edge rushers. And I'm like, man, just take another great one. Who's been upset with how many great edge rushers you have?

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that's never happened.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. No one's like, dude, the Giants. I just. I was watching this weird documentary NFL Network has on the 1984 draft where, long story short, the Giants could have had. You know, Reggie White's probably the best pass rusher ever up there. The Giants were going to pair Reggie White with Lawrence Taylor, and they're like, man, we already have, like, all these other guys. Oh, they literally could have got the two best practices ever. And, like, we already have people like, who cares? Just get good people.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Also, Harbaugh has a history in the past of kind of like, double tapping at positions and doubling up on guys and, you know, even when they're. I don't know if he was in charge, obviously, but with the Ravens, they did that a lot.

[Danny Kelly]

We can keep rolling here. The Browns are at number six.

[Craig Korbeck]

I.

[Danny Kelly]

So the Browns, this is simple. They need everything on offense except running back. Everything. They're not.

[Danny Hyperten]

You could argue they need running back. I. I could argue that coming off that injury.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, they had Dylan Sampson last year. I would argue the Browns kept all their bad offensive linemen and. And got. And lost all the good ones. And then Cleveland's number one receiver is Jerry Judy, who had 12 more catches last year than Keon Coleman did for the Bills. Oh, Jerry. So not great. So I put it that way. I personally think common sense is just go offensive line, then receiver if you're Cleveland, because if you go receiver, and then you go. You might not get offensive line because

[Craig Korbeck]

they have the sixth pick and the 24th pick of the first round from

[Danny Kelly]

the Travis Hunter trade. So, DK, I'm curious if Cardinal Tate is here and Francis Marino is here, what would you do? Because I love Colonel Tate, but I would go lineman, but maybe I'm biased.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, probably lineman on this one, I think. You know, it's hard, though, because it's. It's the same proposition you had. When I remember it was like that Joe Burrow meme where it was like, receiver versus offensive line was Penny Sewell versus Jamar Chase. And there was like, the two pictures of, like, which one is more useful? Getting sacked or throwing it to elite receiver? I'm like, I don't know. I. Which one is more helpful to the next quarterback, Whether that's Chedeur or whoever, it's going to be down the line, probably offensive line, I think.

[Craig Korbeck]

I'm sure Carnell Tate is crossing his fingers that they go off God line.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Seriously.

[Craig Korbeck]

You know that meme of Hillary Clinton walking into, like, an apartment?

[Danny Kelly]

Like, what the.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's like, hey, here's Shador Sanders, Dylan Gabriel, and Deshaun Watson. Welcome to Cleveland.

[Danny Kelly]

Colonel Tate walks in and he's just like, man, can I go back to Ohio State?

[Craig Korbeck]

I'm so close. Hey, can I just go back?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. It's like that G League guy we got to Bama. It's like, I haven't even played the game yet.

[Danny Hyperten]

I hope they go offensive line.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

The Browns are going to be in contention with. It's going to be the Browns vs. The Cardinals for who is the worst team in the league next year.

[Danny Kelly]

I think we. That should be a podcast. That's funny. Just piss everyone off. The next team. Washington is picking seven. It's funny. And then the Saints are eight. And I think they're very similar teams than what they need. But the Washington, they just. Offense, they're pretty set. But they need a running back maybe. But they all just need a number two guy behind Terry McLaurin. They need a weapon, whether it's running back or receiver. The receivers behind Terry McLaurin are like, cr. There's nothing there. It's like Luke McCaffrey and Traylon Burks.

[Craig Korbeck]

Van Jefferson.

[Danny Kelly]

No. Yeah. Like, guys that really. Fourth receivers this is rotating in would piss you off.

[Craig Korbeck]

Like, you got to go Carnell Tate or Jeremiah Love.

[Danny Kelly]

You have to pick one of these two guys. Really? Washington should go Ohio State because Cardinal Tate's perfect. And if he's gone, then Sonny Styles, the linebacker, he could replace Bobby Wagner. That's. You know what I mean? Like, that's incredible. And then. Or just front seven. Ruben Bane for Washington, like Washington is the most set of. They're going to get someone they really need. Jeremiah Love, Carnell Tate, Sonny Styles or Reuben Bain. One of those guys will fall to them and they all would. That's exactly what Washington needs.

[Craig Korbeck]

The commanders have Rashad White, who is like a great complimentary piece at running back. They need to slot in a 1A.

[Danny Hyperten]

Who's their other running back?

[Craig Korbeck]

It's Jerome Ford now.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, yeah, they signed Jerome Ford. Okay.

[Craig Korbeck]

But it's like, see, to me, the

[Danny Hyperten]

commanders are the first team in, in this draft where I could talk myself into Jeremiah Love being a good pick for them because I think, like I said, oh brother.

[Craig Korbeck]

I could talk myself into pick four, pick five.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, I can't. No, I can't get there with those. I'm. I'm for sure if I would if, if they pick. If the Titans pick Jeremiah Love, I'm getting that a terrible grade. If they're.

[Danny Kelly]

You just don't want me to be happy.

[Craig Korbeck]

You don't want to have fun.

[Danny Kelly]

You don't want me to be happy.

[Danny Hyperten]

The only reason I say this is because I think there's a world in which the commanders get back to being what they were two years ago with a healthy Jane Daniels, with some of these off, off, off season free agents kind of helping fill the gaps that they need. There's a world in which they're a very good team. I don't think there's any world in which those other two teams are very good.

[Danny Kelly]

The Giants just put a say their names say there's no world that the Giants with John Harbaugh and Jackson Dart, Malik Neighbors towards acl. There's no world where Jeremiah is good here.

[Danny Hyperten]

How about this? No world in which the Titans are a very good team. The Giants, there, there is a universe where that happens and everybody's healthy for sure. And Harbaugh is like a big difference. Okay, I'll give you that. I still think it's a dumb pick for them. I still think it's a dumb pick for them.

[Craig Korbeck]

With Washington, to me it's like fifth or seventh.

[Danny Kelly]

What's the difference?

[Craig Korbeck]

What. See to me, we just did this with Saquon.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's why.

[Craig Korbeck]

Who was the Giants quarterback when they drafted Saquon?

[Danny Hyperten]

Eli.

[Danny Kelly]

Eli was still there. And also the other issue with the Saquon pick was that the Giants could have traded Saquon for like they could have moved down four spots and got three second rounders in the jets. That's a 15 sport. You should take the six pick in three seconds instead of Saquon Barkley. If the Giants were offered three second round picks to not take Jeremiah Love. You do that every day.

[Craig Korbeck]

To me it's like once you already know you have the quarterback, which I feel much more confident obviously about Jaden Daniels in Washington than like I guess what Jackson Dart is going to be. But like once you know you have the guy, to me it's. It's time to start looking for some. It's time to start fucking shopping. And it's like you have Jaden Daniels and you have a 30 year old Terry McLaren and nobody else like you. You have to go get somebody good like Carnell Tater. Jeremiah Love. What's the point? You already have a guy.

[Danny Hyperten]

I can see it with the Giants. The other variable that I think is interesting here with the Commanders and I heard this the other day and I was like, oh, that makes so much sense, is a lot of people are pairing Brandon Iuk to the Commanders. This is Jaden Daniels former college teammate Brandon Ayuk, which is also just crazy to think about. They played together at Arizona State early on in Jaden Daniels career. So on draft weekend I think right now the 49ers are like, look, we're going to try and get something for Brandon.

[Craig Korbeck]

Also the GM of the Commanders drafted Brandon IU.

[Danny Hyperten]

Right. There's connections with the 49ers.

[Danny Kelly]

Good luck.

[Craig Korbeck]

Good.

[Danny Hyperten]

I'm just saying, like you think he's

[Craig Korbeck]

crazy or whatever or good luck trading for him from the Niners.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm good luck. I'm not. I don't know. We'll see, we'll see what happens with Brandon Ayuk.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't know enough about this situation, but obviously yes, there's, there's major red flags there with the things that he was doing towards the end of his tenure in San Francisco. But I'm just saying that could be a variable here that we see. Instead of them taking Carnell Tate, they go draft or they go trade for Brandon Aiyuk and take something else at this position or at this spot in

[Craig Korbeck]

the draft, they're taking Jeremiah Love. If he's there. I think.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, I, I think that's the lowest he goes. New Orleans.

[Danny Hyperten]

Poor Bill. Corey Crosky, Merritt, just out of our lives forever.

[Danny Kelly]

It's.

[Craig Korbeck]

We'll never forget him.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. What was his name again, Bill? The Saints. Speaking of that, the Saints probably signed Travis, Travis H. And the artist formerly known as Travis Etienne because they didn't think Jeremiah Love would fall to them. I think that The Saints main need. They did it. It's built around Tyler Shook. They did it. The Saints, they need a number two receiver behind Chris Olave. It looks a lot like Washington's depth chart where it's not serious. Everything else, the Saints look good. They just need defense, man, front seven. I think the Saints could like totally try to win the NFC south this year. They just kind of need a little bit everything. They need defensive line, they need edge rushers, they need linebackers, cornerback, like, like nickel cornerback. I. I could see the Saints going any direction. Like they could take Sonny Styles. They signed, they lost tomorrow Davis, they signed Kate and Ellis. He's 30 years old. I'm like, you know what I mean? But I actually think Caleb Towns makes a lot of sense for the Saints. But the Saints are another team like Washington. All the positions they need are going to fall to them. And it's dealer's choice of. Do you want Ruben Bane? Do you want Sunny Styles? Do you want Caleb Downs? All the go those Carnell Tate pick your Ohio State guy or Reuben Bay. And I think they all make sense.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yep. Yeah. Could they be a trade down team since that, since that is the case, they trade back a few things and they'll still get a guy they like.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think the Saints think that way. I think this. I don't think so.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, they're the trade up team.

[Danny Kelly]

They're a trade up in the past. The Lions are a trade up team. The Saints, I think the same.

[Danny Hyperten]

They're like, we're going to come out of this with four players.

[Danny Kelly]

The Saints were go big people in the beginning of round one and then round two. I think the Saints could take like the Chris Johnson, the San Diego State quarterback, you know what I mean? Like he could. I think the Saints go big people. Round one, lower little people. Round two. Speaking of which, the Chiefs pick nine. So when you look at needs, the obvious, the ones that jump out, are you like, well, they lost their own secondary and the Chiefs need that and the receiver core, blah, blah, blah. The more I think about this, the Kansas City Chiefs need a freaking right tackle. Like they need to keep protect Patrick Mahomes. And I really think that this is the one that hasn't been talked about enough. When Patrick Mahomes did that quarterback sneak like in 20, 19, 20, when they won the super bowl and he like dislocated.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

TK how did Andy Reid respond to Patrick Mahomes dislocating his kneecap on a quarterback sneak?

[Danny Hyperten]

Never sneaking him again?

[Danny Kelly]

Literally. He has not done it since seven years.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's like, I ain't never doing that again. I still remember where I was that exact moment that happened. Like just a monumental, like, moment in the league. Yeah, he stopped. He stopped sneaking him. Who do they do it now with, like Kelsey or whoever?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, now they have Justin Fields and yeah, they had Blake Bell do it. They would have Titans do it.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's so funny because, like, quarterbacks really don't get hurt sneaking usually.

[Danny Hyperten]

I know.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's just like it was such a knee jerk reaction. No pun intended.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes, it's. It's very like parents sitting in the stands. Energy of like. Like my son's not allowed to do well.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's like taste aversion or what's it called? It's like if you, like, get food poisoning from spaghetti as a kid, he's never eaten again.

[Danny Kelly]

You're like, oh, I don't drink gin. I threw up in college once. You're like, that was a long time ago.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's cinnamon toast crunch for me.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, really?

[Craig Korbeck]

Really?

[Danny Hyperten]

Cereal? Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

You won't eat it. You had a bad experience.

[Danny Hyperten]

I had. I puked after eating it. I'm like, now I see it. I'm like, oh, God. This was like 30 years ago. And I still have that feeling.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, that's why I think the Chiefs are gonna take.

[Craig Korbeck]

I feel about Sailor Jerry's.

[Danny Kelly]

Sailor. I don't even know what that is.

[Danny Hyperten]

What is that?

[Craig Korbeck]

Bar? No, Sailor Jerry's. The alcohol. You never had Sailor Jerry's.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, I thought it was a cereal.

[Danny Hyperten]

It sounds so classy, Craig. I can't imagine.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's a. It's rum, which is at the bottom of my list.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I would.

[Danny Hyperten]

Spiced rum.

[Danny Kelly]

I would ask people to email us, but I feel like they're all the same story. It's like I had a lot of the cheapest thing imaginable in a plastic bottle and then I threw up everywhere. Yeah, yeah. Vladimir was. Yeah, it's not great. Anyway, I think Patrick Mowins tore his acl. And any Reed thinks about it every day. And they're going to take a right tackle because you know what the Chiefs did after he tore his ac? Like, they cut the right tackle, Juwan Taylor, so they're like, yeah, Jalen Moore, he's good enough. I'm like, no way they're going to take a right tackle here. I feel like. And I think it's going to be Spencer Fano.

[Craig Korbeck]

You think? If you think there's no shot of Carnell Tate, is there? That they'll take him.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it's possible. Like, I think it's certainly possible, but I just keep thinking. I just occurred to me the other day was like, this guy, Eddie Reed has refused. Won't even sneak Mahomes anymore. When he got hurt seven years ago. He's fine. He won the super bowl that year. Mahomes is like, I'm going to play week one. He's not going to be able to protect himself. You're going to have. This was Trent Williams's backup left tackle. It's not going to be the chief starting right tackle. And they're like, great, done fixed it. That doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, bad plan.

[Craig Korbeck]

We should also say, correct me if I'm wrong. Did the NFL clear Rishi Rice of the abuse allegations? Yeah, they did, right?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

Well, that's what I saw. I think he. I think that that investigation is over and they have. They decided not to discipline him.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a civil. It's a civil lawsuit Rashi Rice is facing. And the NFL has basically decided that they will. It's a much higher bar for them to look into civil cases than criminal.

[Craig Korbeck]

So it's very likely that Rashid Rice is playing week one. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

And then they also used a first round pick on Xavier Worthy. They probably go trenches here.

[Danny Kelly]

I. I think so.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Yeah. Or corner. But that's kind of against what they've done in the past in terms of like building their defensive backs group.

[Danny Kelly]

The Chiefs could take a quarterback through the later rounds. Yeah, the Chiefs have found cornerbacks in the first round, the third round, the fourth round, the sixth round, the seventh round. Like, they can find them anywhere. So I'm like, take a tackle. But maybe that's just me being like, stop trying to cheap out a tackle for my homes. The Bengals attend. This is the easiest one in the whole list. The bank. Defense. Bengals allowed 147 rushing yards a game last year.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Defense,

[Danny Kelly]

again, they could go any position.

[Craig Korbeck]

But like they went this year. They got Brian Cook, the safety. Jonathan Allen, the we.

[Danny Kelly]

The thing I wish we had talked. Yeah. Jonathan Allen. So they could go D line. They could go. I think they. I mean, cornerback, nickel. I think Caleb Downs is also Downs. Bengals. The thing we didn't talk about enough last year is that the Bengals. It's hard to look this up, but the Bengals might have been the only team in 70 or 80 years to start two rookie inside linebackers next to each other as the. Without a veteran. Like, maybe there's been three linebackers back in the day when you'd start three with a veteran but like the only linebackers in the field, both being rookies

[Danny Hyperten]

like the field generals. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

May have never happened before and that and it was horrific. So the Bengals kind of need a linebacker, but adding another 22 year old linebacker is kind of dumb. But I don't know what they're if

[Danny Hyperten]

Sonny Styles is on the board there, I think they'd take him.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I don't know. But anywhere. Yeah, this is defense for the Bengals. Makes sense. This episode is brought to you by Amazon. Life's full of little surprises like spilling coffee everywhere five minutes before a meeting or reaching for a diaper and realizing the bag is empty. Kind of like draft night. You think you know the plan, then everything changes. Look, life can be unpredictable, but everyday shopping doesn't have to be. With great savings on essentials, Amazon helps you cover the basics and the surprises. Because when life throws a curveball, it's nice knowing there's a place you can count on Amazon Save on essentials Save

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[Danny Kelly]

Dolphins at 11. This is really fun. The Dolphins number one receiver is Jalen Tolbert and I think their number one cornerback is Storm Duck.

[Danny Hyperten]

Storm Duck.

[Craig Korbeck]

I should have added. I should have added the Dolphins in the race for the worst overall team in the league next year with Arizona and Cleveland. My apologies.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, Dolphins. Carlos, forgive you. I still actually kind of think though the do so the Dolphins have a lot of picks in this draft. They have the 11th pick. They have the 30th pick. After trading Jalen Waddle to Denver, they have four picks in the third round. I actually kind of think the Dolphins should get a guard. Vega, you want a. And then you have four picks in the third to use one to trade up and you have three picks in the third. I think they should get receivers later, like if Carnell Tate falls to Miami. Sure. But I actually think Miami should go o line or edge and then they just load up on receiver, receiver, cornerbacks, the deepest position in the draft. I think that's what you should do in all second, third round picks.

[Danny Hyperten]

So remind me some of the things that the packers, packers were just always constantly picking defensive players, trench players and now this is like basically, you know, packers south. And so yeah, it's good to me it's like invest in the trenches, invest in the big guys. Invest in big, large human beings that could move very fast.

[Craig Korbeck]

The packers type of team they're going to be, I mean, right. This is Devon Hn and Malik Willis and no receivers.

[Danny Hyperten]

Maybe Devon Hn. I don't know if you saw Craig, but he's, he's quote holding out. It's voluntary. So I don't think that's really counts as a holdout. But he did not show up to the off season voluntary OTAs or whatever it is they're holding right now. So there's a lot of, I guess thought that he may be trying to force a trade or maybe trying to get a new contract.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I mean Dolphins are doing a long term big boy rebuild.

[Danny Hyperten]

They need everything h and sees the leverage he has right now as like the only exciting player left on the team.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, good Luck.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's probably a stretch, but like, yeah, he's. He's one of the top guys.

[Danny Kelly]

No, Dallas is picking 12th or exactly like Cincinnati defense. I mean, the bank. I mean the Cowboys. I actually think the Cowboys offense might be underrated because I think their offensive line is the chance to like every year. Young and could be really good. The Cowboys allowed the most points in the NFL last year. So yeah, they need defense everywhere. I mean, inside linebacker, safety, cornerback, edge rusher. Shockingly, like the Cowboys literally need anything. They have the 20th pick two from the Micah Parsons trade. So congrats.

[Danny Hyperten]

Defense. Defense is what I've been giving them in mock drafts, and I think that's probably what they'll do.

[Danny Kelly]

The only thing I want to note on the Cowboys, other than again, obviously, edge rusher. The Cowboys have three linebackers on their entire team, but one of them is demarvin Overshone, who has been in and out of the lineup with injuries. So that, I mean that. I mean, the Cowboys have to take a linebacker in the first three rounds. Like they literally. The three linebackers is. You can't do that.

[Danny Hyperten]

So Jacob Rodriguez would be a lot of fun on the pack, on the, on the Cowboys. Maybe in the second round.

[Danny Kelly]

I wouldn't be. Yeah, they're gonna have to do it.

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[Danny Kelly]

This is where things get really interesting. The rams of the 13th pick and I just put the biggest need is the Rams whatever will help us win a Super bowl immediately. As soon as possible, please.

[Danny Hyperten]

They like to make big. They like to make big moves, them picks.

[Craig Korbeck]

Big, sexy, splashy moves. 100.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, I remember a couple years ago on draft weekend, they were trying to move up for. For Brock Bowers. The Rams terrify me. I hate the Rams. They always make these cool ass moves and I could see that absolutely happening here.

[Danny Kelly]

Who does that?

[Danny Hyperten]

Who do you think? Like, is this like an AJ Brown spot?

[Danny Kelly]

I think AJ Brown's gonna go to the Patriots. I really do. I think A.J. brown's gonna go to the Patriots and I think the Rams. I. This isn't. I don't think the Rams are gonna do this, but I think the Rams should take one of their young defensive linemen and put them in a trade with a first round pick to the Raiders. I think they should send the Raiders a player in a first round pick. Kind of like when the Bears traded for the Caleb Williams trade up, the DJ Moore was kind of counted like a first round pick in value. I think the Rams should trade for Max Crosby. Honest to God.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, God. I have this like, running joke that all the great players end up in the NFC west and it's just like, just to make me upset. And it's because if you go back throughout the years, like, all these great players always get traded to the NFC west teams.

[Craig Korbeck]

You're right. Hype. It's that a couple things line up nicely with that. Rams don't care about picks. The Rams need to win right now. Matt Stafford's 37 years old. Max Crosby, regardless of, like, his health and whatever, he's good right now and he's 30 right now. And that's fine because, like, cool. You just need him for like a year or two.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it just. And also, he's super motivated and it's like, I mean, I used to.

[Danny Hyperten]

They've got the Airstream thing that they could throw him in at all times during not practice. Heal him up in the back to tank whatever's in there. I don't know.

[Craig Korbeck]

Easy drive. I mean, four or five hours.

[Danny Hyperten]

The dry. The dry. Nice weather could be good. No, actually he's already in Vegas, so that doesn't matter.

[Craig Korbeck]

But the weather's a little better in la.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's not as hot.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

I was thinking about the other day with the A's guy building a baseball stadium in the Strip, and I'm like, would you go to Vegas in July and be like, you know what I want to do right now? Let's sit in the sun for hours.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, it's going to be in a dome.

[Danny Kelly]

The stadium's gonna have a dome.

[Craig Korbeck]

I I, it has to. It's gonna be 110 degrees every day.

[Danny Kelly]

I guess it has to.

[Craig Korbeck]

Which I don't like dome baseball stadiums. It's not what baseball's about. Baseball.

[Danny Kelly]

No. It's not as fun. It's, it's. That's the losing recipes. All these NFL stadiums getting domes makes sense, but it's sad.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, at least with the NFL, they're doing retractable roofs. But. But then it still takes away from, like, the whole point is that if it is snowing, you got to play in the snow. They just put the roof up and

[Danny Kelly]

it's like, well, people get so mad about the weather in football now. And that Broncos Patriots game as also, as if that Broncos Patriots championship game was great before the weather started snowing. Like, that game sucked before it started snowing. But I love about football is it's anywhere, anytime. It, like, it's just no other sports like that.

[Danny Hyperten]

You, me, on the field, we're doing it.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's rare. It's rare in 2020 in the modern age that, like, you can't pick exactly what you want. You can't have exactly your preferences. And it's cool that football specifically is still just, like, at the whim of mother Nature.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yes.

[Danny Kelly]

It's. It's literally. It's just men doing war cosplay.

[Craig Korbeck]

It is.

[Danny Kelly]

And they're like, well, it's raining. It's like, well, suck it up, man. Who cares?

[Danny Hyperten]

That's baseball.

[Danny Kelly]

The ball is slippery.

[Craig Korbeck]

My fingers hurt.

[Danny Kelly]

Ravens are picking 14. Ravens need more than you think, man. After.

[Danny Hyperten]

Well, they lost a lot. They did this off season.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

He lost Max Crosby. That must have been brutal for them. He was for almost 12 hours.

[Craig Korbeck]

I know.

[Danny Hyperten]

They kicked him to the curb.

[Craig Korbeck]

They got Trey Hendrickson. Hey, what's up? Less good. Max. Max Crosby.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Now they need it. Now they need.

[Craig Korbeck]

They call him max with 1x, but

[Danny Hyperten]

they're kind of like the two first round picks are, like, right behind Hendrick Hendrickson, so it kind of works out really well.

[Danny Kelly]

More like sign Hendrickson.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Trade Hendrickson.

[Craig Korbeck]

What do you think? The Ravens. The Ravens have not been great at drafting wide receivers. When do you think they're going to take another whack at this? Because it's still kind of Zay Flowers and Rashad Brown.

[Danny Kelly]

Everyone says this about the Ravens in this draft, and I'm, I actually, I think that's like, Zay Flowers and Bateman were first rounders. I don't think the Ravens should take a receiver here. I'm like, you're gonna have three man first.

[Danny Hyperten]

You've already tried this. Please stop trying.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I, I don't know. I, I. The Ravens, here's the thing. They need a lot. They have two tight ends on the roster. They literally have Mark Andrews and one other guy, like, because they tend to like. So they have two tight ends. They need a center because Tyler Linderbaum left. They still need a left guard because I don't think Andrew Voorhees is very good. And then they need, like, a lot in defense. They need an edge rusher who can actually defend the run, which Trey Hendrickson can't. He can't.

[Craig Korbeck]

He's.

[Danny Kelly]

Nobody on. The Ravens had five sacks last year, not one.

[Danny Hyperten]

Who is the really good player who's going to fall into the Ravens lap like we see every single year?

[Craig Korbeck]

What's like the Jesse Minter pick? What is like the, you know, the versatile defensive player that makes a defensive

[Danny Hyperten]

back like a nickelback?

[Craig Korbeck]

Like a. Yeah. Who's that guy?

[Danny Hyperten]

Is it Caleb Downs. But they've already done that with safety. I feel like they probably wouldn't do that again.

[Danny Kelly]

They would be so good together. I think the Ravens, the Ravens thing where they. Raven just sit there and get a good player fall into the lap is I think Vega Yuani, the Penn State guard who's kind of like a Linderbaum where he's like a great player. 100 Met position that would fall to them or Ruben Bane. If Ruben Bane did fall because the short arm. I actually don't think he will. Reuben Bain, I think this is the lowest. There's no way room falls below 14.

[Craig Korbeck]

He's a guy we haven't really. I feel like he hasn't been on any of these lists these last 13. Like we haven't really mentioned like, oh, this might be the Ruben Bane team. We haven't really done that yet.

[Danny Kelly]

I think some teams have Reuben Bain listed as like a three tag, a defensive tackle that they won't take in the first round. And I think some teams have Reuben Bain third, like literally third right on the entire. In the entire draft.

[Danny Hyperten]

Bane would make a lot of sense. He would look great in a Ravens uniform. I feel like he's. He's a Ravensy type of player. Maybe outside of the arm length thing, but just in terms of the power and just like Hyphen says, the violence that he plays with, it just makes so much sense that he would be on the Ravens.

[Danny Kelly]

He does play like a Raven. I. There's a lot of. It's just funny. It just depends on teams and whether they care about the arm length thing. It's just a hinge. It's the. Do you actually care about that setting of the. No, actually he can't. Like he has to be 6ft tall. I. He can't be shorter than me. Like, but with the arm length.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's how you use it.

[Danny Kelly]

It's how you swing it.

[Danny Hyperten]

The motion in the ocean.

[Danny Kelly]

I really do think the Ruben's going to be great. Tampa Bay Buccaneers may need save Todd Bowles's job yeah, the Bucs defense has negative EPA per play the last two seasons. It was positive the previous five years. I just think they need an edge rusher.

[Craig Korbeck]

They don't.

[Danny Kelly]

They don't. They can't have a project. They need someone who's going to contribute. I just keep thinking about Keem Messador again. The running partner for Miami is the defensive end and or a tight end like Kenyan Sadiq. But I do think they need someone who can contribute.

[Danny Hyperten]

DK Keldrick Falk would be an interesting one for them. Yeah, tons of upside there.

[Danny Kelly]

Tackle.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't think they're going to take a tight end. Didn't they. They resigned to Otten.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

I mean, their offense is fine. I mean, they have Buka Godwin. You have Bucky Irving.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, they lost Mike Evans and Levante David where it's like the best offensive player in team history and Levante David's the best one defensive player in 20. Evans. They kind of. I mean, they have a Buka. They have got. They have those guys.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, they had. They've been like loading up at the receiver position over the years. So there should. They should be okay there.

[Danny Kelly]

I gotta tell you, as I keep going through this, all the team needs the Bucks on the most, like, weird spot.

[Danny Hyperten]

You never know what to do with them. Historically, they've taken a lot of trench guys.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. The Colts are not picking 16th because they traded this pick to the Jets. So the Colts have a second rounder, a third, a fourth. Kind of need a lot for this team that went all in. I mean, they, I think a linebacker. They still haven't really replaced Shaq Leonard as, as their inside linebacker. He was rookie of the year in their second round. I feel like they did and they've lost quiddy pay an edge rusher and I think they probably should go edge rusher just because it's a deep draft. They might get one in the second round, but they're not really in position to trade up, so kind of get to take whatever they can get. But I. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, Chris Bell, it does seem like a guy that Chris Ballard might like. I don't know.

[Danny Hyperten]

But Chris, yeah, he likes big, fast guys. That makes a lot of sense, actually. And he has. I don't know if maybe this is like something he's learned. He's learned. Doesn't work. But he's. He's a guy in the past, I think that's taken injured guys and like look to benefit from the discount that an injured player brings and then, you know, a year or two down the line there, they look like great values. He's done that a handful of times. I'm looking at the edge guys at this area in the sec, in the middle of the second round or whatever. Gabe Akis, Malachi Lawrence, our Mason Thomas, TJ Parker. Some of the names that might be there. TJ Parker, Michael earlier, but Zion Young. There's a lot of, you know, big physical defensive end type players. I think Ballard would like that. Would Kind of fit into what they were doing.

[Danny Kelly]

The Detroit Lions pick 17th. I'm calling my shot. I think the Lions are going to like not only take an offensive line here, I think they're going to train up to do it because the, the Lions, they just the number one need. Like the Lions have needed an edge rusher and a cornerback for three or four years. The Lions need to be the Lions again. They need a mauling tack. Whether it's Penny super goes left tackle, right tackle, whatever. I think they need a fucking ass kicker. Like they need a motherfucker either guard or left tackle or right tackle, whatever they Pennies was going to play. Maybe the trade up from Monroe Freeling. I don't know who it is, Vega Ioanne, but I think they're going to have some player that Brad Holmes, the GM loves and Dan Campbell loves and they're just going to go get him. Even if it's a crazy price.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that's something they do every year. I mean even the trade up for Isaac to slaw was expensive. They just have. When they have conviction on a player, they're like, I don't care, let's just go get him.

[Craig Korbeck]

There's been so much turnaround on that offensive line since the, since the, the days of only what, two, three years ago when they're, they were a juggernaut. But the offensive line has like completely been turned over outside of Penny, so

[Danny Kelly]

may need return to Danny Kelly calling the Lions the most aesthetically pleasing football team of all time.

[Danny Hyperten]

No, I miss it.

[Danny Kelly]

Vikings are picking 18th. Honestly, I'm going to lump them with The Panthers picking 19th because these teams are just obviously they both really need a safety. And I think both these teams really want Dylan Tinaman, the safety from Oregon to fall to them. And the Vikings are just picking first. And I think the Vikings will get them because they don't think the Panthers are going to trade up. So I really do think the Vikings take Tiananmen or defensive tackle and I think the Panthers maybe get a defensive tackle too. Like both teams I think could use a safety defensive tackle. And I think that it it's Dylan tienemann or Manuel McNeil, Warren the Toledo guy and then it's just Wood, Peter woods the Clemson defensive tackle. But I think both these. And they also kind of need a number three receiver. They both have Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison from Minnesota, Jalen nail a third receiver left. Panthers have Jalen Coker and T. McMillan but like Nova third. Xavier get third receiver. Kind of sucks. So they're both Kind of similar spots.

[Danny Hyperten]

Is Kaden McDonald an option here? Potentially. I know that he's more of just like he's known as a. As a run defender, but I feel like he's getting a lot of. Of hype right now. Is as a sleeper that's going to go a little bit higher than people think.

[Danny Kelly]

Teams need defensive tackles. We were talking about this the last episode, but if you want again, the too high safety thing. It's not that. It's. If you want to have more players in pass coverage, you need to be able to fit the run with six, seven people.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Not to make it all six, seven. God damn it. Every time. But you need.

[Danny Hyperten]

No one would have noticed it if you hadn't said it.

[Danny Kelly]

I need to stop acknowledging.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

Do you think Harrison Smith having such a successful career as a white safety in Minnesota will make them think about Dylan Tiananmen?

[Danny Hyperten]

Yes.

[Craig Korbeck]

A little bit more.

[Danny Kelly]

Absolutely.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's human nature.

[Danny Kelly]

Craig, you know, he's just, you know, Dylan Tienemann, you know, does the athleticism matter? No. It's the cerebral nature.

[Danny Hyperten]

Gym rap cerebral. The coach's son game feel.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tiananmen honestly is. I, I think he's kind of like Minka Fitzpatrick. Okay. Honestly, the Vikings Panthers are weirdly similar to me. So they're 18, 19. Packers pick 20. Well, they don't pick 20. They traded this pick for Michael Parsons. They don't have a first run pick. The packers have a second rounder. I actually wanted to flag the packers as I feel like I. If you guys agree, I feel like I don't look at the packers as a stars team. They're like a depth team like they always have been. It's been Rogers in depth. Packers have no depth like it is. They lost Malik Willis as their backup quarterback. They lost Rashid Walker as their left tackle. And they have. You know what I mean? Those cornerbacks they lost. They lost the most players of any team in free agency. Green Bay did. And so you actually like, you know, they lost Romeo Dobbs. Well, they have receivers there. They lost their left tackle. Well, we have a first rounder who can slide over, but like they just kind of need everything. They lost Kingsley and Ibari and Rashawn Gary edge rusher Michael Parsons coming out from a 28 seal court. Like the packers don't neither have top end talent, but they still kind of need that depth everywhere. So I think the packers are a team they're gonna have to trade back honestly, a lot. I think the Green Bay's gonna just accrue picks.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that would be their M.O. i think that makes a lot of sense.

[Craig Korbeck]

Packers in a weird spot just as

[Danny Hyperten]

a team, especially in that division.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's a brutal division. Yeah, I, I don't know if they are, if they are gaining momentum or slowing down.

[Danny Hyperten]

You know, I think from the outside looking in, it feels like they're slowing down. But, but you know, Jordan Love, still very good quarterback. So that kind of is like all bets are off what he does. If he's, if he's great, then they're going to be great.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I agree. I want to shout out Tyler Brooke who shouted out Danny Denise Sutton, Penn State rusher.

[Danny Hyperten]

That makes sense in the second round.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, but yeah, there's a lot. The Green BATES Steelers are 21.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig, what's, what's, where are you leaning right now?

[Craig Korbeck]

I want, I want a left tackle or a receiver. Probably a tackle. I mean I, I say this all the time, but Broderick Jones, even their guard on the left side, Spencer Anderson who was like their swing guy last year, is kind of like their main guard now. I don't know if it's Aaron Rodgers. I, I want, I just want more help up there and I want, I want the left side of the line to be short up and then maybe take a receiver in the second round.

[Danny Kelly]

I agree. Isaac Sayamala was your left guard. He went to Arizona and I think he was key to like making, making you guys a more respectable run team. But the idea that you're gonna have is Aaron Rodgers, 43 years old, 42. I, I, I do think he's coming back. But 42, the left side of your offensive line is really bad.

[Craig Korbeck]

Roderick Jones is not it.

[Danny Kelly]

He, he sacked Aaron Rodgers. The worst hit Rogers took all year was from his left tackle hitting him. Yeah, so, so do you want like Jordan Tyson, the Arizona State receiver or do you want like Kaden Proctor is 6 foot 7, 304, 40 pound left tackle.

[Craig Korbeck]

As much as I like Jordan Tyson, I want Kaden Proctor. The Steelers have a ton of middle. The Steelers have 12 picks in this draft. They have a ton of third rounders. Like if they like a wide receiver, they can go get them in the second and I would much rather them do that.

[Danny Hyperten]

Caleb Lomu from Utah is another guy that's probably going to be in that range if, if the Georgia tackle. Yeah, Monroe Freeling, if he's there, that could make sense for them.

[Craig Korbeck]

Omar Cooper feels like a Steeler, like go get him in the second round

[Danny Kelly]

and take a lineman totally Jordan Tyson was coached by Heinz Ward.

[Craig Korbeck]

That's right. But he's not tough. According to the scouts, only when the

[Danny Kelly]

ball's in the air.

[Danny Hyperten]

The one, the. The sleeper pick here, Arizona tackle Max Hannatur. I'm. I'm probably butchering his name a little bit here.

[Danny Kelly]

No, no, that was, that was great.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's. He's a really intriguing guy too, because of his movement skills. He's new to football, but already shows, I guess, like a veteran type ability to mirror on the edge and marry his hands with his legs or his feet. So I think he's a really interesting one too. He plays right tackle, but I mean, I don't know teams. Teams are. Have been willing to move guys to different positions or whatever, and so I think he's. He's an interesting one.

[Danny Kelly]

I just figured out the best outcome for this show. The Steelers take Jordan Tyson. Craig is absolutely elated. And then Aaron Rodgers does not throw him the football all year because he's.

[Craig Korbeck]

Aaron Rodgers hates him.

[Danny Kelly]

Does that Aaron Rodgers. That's a good point.

[Craig Korbeck]

He runs one wrong route. Aaron Rodgers been bitching about not getting first on wide receivers for years. He should be happy. No tackle, then receiver. That's what I want. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

And then they won't throw the ball into that receiver. Or maybe Proctor. He caught a couple passes.

[Danny Hyperten]

If they take a guard, is that too, too high?

[Craig Korbeck]

I don't know. It's hard for me. I defer to you people. I defer to the, to the experts like you people. If you tell me the guard's really good, I'll be happy. But I'm not gonna be upset about an offensive lineman.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, if Vega. Yoane is there, run to the podium.

[Craig Korbeck]

Sure.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's a Steeler.

[Danny Kelly]

He's a Lion. He does have that. He does have that, like, quality, though. I see what you're saying. You want a.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's just flat. Just putting people on their backs.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, this is the last spot I think he would go. The latest he could go. I think it's the chargers here at 22, because the Chargers, I was looking at their team needs and the Chargers remind me of the Chiefs where you can have all this stuff, but you zoom out. The most important thing is that Justin Herbert was the most hit quarterback in the NFL last year. He took more hits than anybody.

[Craig Korbeck]

If they don't take a goddamn offensive lineman, I'm gonna freak out.

[Danny Hyperten]

But their whole line got hurt.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, it's luck at the tackles. Yeah. You could argue maybe two first round tackles not enough. You, maybe you Need a third, Just a first round tackle. Yes, like maybe that's the answer. I do think that this signing the center Tyler Biotish was smart. Like for a lot of reasons from Washington, they beat the mitt market and Tyler Linderbaum, they don't have to do a comp pick for him. But the guards, it's like a hope more than a plan.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's like Trevor Penning and Cole Strange take a guard.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I. So I really think this is the latest Vega you want to could possibly go. I think he could go really high. But I think a guard here makes sense for the Chargers. I think the charges trade back. They only have five picks and the Chargers, I think they don't have the beef you think of with the Jim Harbaugh team. When I think of Jim Harbaugh, I don't think of guard as a weakness, but it is. And the flip side is the Chargers also really need edge rusher. Like they have Tuli Tui Polotu. Who's the Ohio State guy? He's good. He's 23 years old. Bud Dupree is going to play for the Chargers this year. He's like 33.

[Danny Hyperten]

But Dupree is still in the league.

[Danny Kelly]

I know. I didn't know that too.

[Danny Hyperten]

I heard that name forever.

[Danny Kelly]

Clack is 35. Like the Chargers need an edge rusher as well. I think the Chargers are going to trade back from 22. Man. Like this is like if you're a quarterback, if you want a quarterback, if you want Ty Simpson, but you don't want to take them high. I think this is where the Chargers start taking calls. And I think Ty Simpson probably gets picked at this 22nd pick slot a lot.

[Danny Hyperten]

Ooh, interesting. Very interesting.

[Danny Kelly]

They just need more picks and cornerbacks. They need Joe Ortiz.

[Danny Hyperten]

What's his deal? Is he like trading back?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, you can tell us more.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's my doppelganger.

[Danny Kelly]

He's your Chapel Ganger chop.

[Craig Korbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Hyperten]

No, he's a good looking guy. Come on.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, you're. You're a great looking guy though.

[Danny Hyperten]

Sure. But that's what I hear all the time.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, the Chargers are a Super bowl caliber team, but they don't have super bowl depth. They need cornerbacks, they need edge rushers. Super bowl teams are not light on those things. Eagles at 23 speaking. Which I feel like the Eagles got great because their offensive line and defensive line were impossibly talented and deep and it's not really the case. And the Eagles sneakily need a lot. They need to replace A.J. brown. Because I think they're going to trade them or at least next year.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well they did. They got Hollywood Brown.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's problem solved.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like Russian nesting dolls. I think they could, they could use a Denzel Boston or Chris Bell to replace A.J. brown. They're going to need to replace Lane Johnson who's coming back this year, but he's going to retire eventually. And I think they could do the Jason Kelsey where you get his Lane Johnson's.

[Danny Hyperten]

They're going to take an offensive lineman.

[Danny Kelly]

I think so. But they need defensive lineman too. They lost Jalen Phillips to the Panthers and so the Eagles need a lot like way more than you think.

[Craig Korbeck]

Feels like their inability to run the ball last year was like the whole issue and it opens up Jalen hurts his game. If they can run the ball, it feels like they're going to get a

[Danny Kelly]

lineman, offensive lineman especially losing Jeff Stoutland, who I think I, I still view as like the some companies just the entire fast casts of society rely in a single Excel file and you know,

[Danny Hyperten]

how could they let him go? I that is the most unbelievable story to me in this whole off season. Like it's flying under the radar. I don't feel like people are talking about it enough. They let their most important person go because of not getting along with the head coach who does nothing.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, Jordan Mylotta, who went from having never played football to playing being a top five left tackle wept when this

[Danny Hyperten]

is where you get rid of Serati and make Stoutland the head coach. Come on. What are we doing here?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I, I well he's under contract. I keep thinking, man, whoever signs him, I just like man, I want just Stoutland to be on the Giants next year. But yeah, the Eagles, I think they go online. I agree. Or trade back.

[Danny Hyperten]

I bet they trade AJ Brown on draft weekend too.

[Danny Kelly]

Patriots I think, I think A.J. brown gets New England and maybe A.J. brand's not during the draft. Maybe it's after the dead money and maybe it's next year. But I do think A.J. brown goes to the Patriots. Jaguars are 24. I get nothing. It's they're a stack team. They don't need anything. They probably, I mean maybe they need a better running but they signed, they signed like one outside free agent. They signed Chris Rodriguez from Washington.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, dude, they literally have the like they're, they're starting 22 players last year. Might be their starting 22 players this year. It's crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

Including Travis Hunter going to quarterback.

[Craig Korbeck]

That's right.

[Danny Kelly]

The Jags, they don't need. I mean, they probably need a linebacker to replace Devin Lloyd. They. Again, the super bowl team, you need more defensive tackles, defensive end, cornerbacks. No super bowl team runs out of those, but they're very flexible and they need more picks because again, the Travis

[Craig Korbeck]

Hunter trade seems like they're not trading Brian Thomas.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think they should. I don't think that makes any sense to me. I think that Brian Thomas's early issues were because Liam Cohen wanted him to do some Chris Godwin stuff and Brian Thomas needs to not.

[Craig Korbeck]

And now it's just like go deep.

[Danny Hyperten]

Also just doesn't make sense to trade him at, like, the low point of his value.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

Unless he's a total malcontent, which I don't. I don't get the impression he is.

[Danny Kelly]

Chicago picks 25th. I. I think this is easy. Like, the Bears offense I think is super bowl caliber. I think the Bears defense is not close. Like, the Bears defense does not look like teams that would, like, the Bears advanced because they had what they led the league in turnovers and they just kept pulling horseshoes out of their ass. Caleb Williams kept having to do his comeback wins. But I mean, the Bears, their defensive tackles are not good enough to win a Super Bowl. They have one good edge rusher, Monte Sweat. Like, I think they need a lot of help on defense and then they could be like a special team. But I think Chicago needs some real beef.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah,

[Danny Hyperten]

it's a good spot right there to get an edge player, I think.

[Danny Kelly]

But remember Ben Johnson? I was like, I mean, he went on fourth down against Green Bay six times and I'm like, how much of that's analytics and how much is actually. He actually does not think his defense is right.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Defensive tackle, defensive end. I think there's going to be a lot of good players at that at this spot. Still.

[Danny Kelly]

I think Kaden McDonald makes a ton of sense for Chicago here. The Ohio State defensive tackle, I think. I think that makes sense.

[Danny Hyperten]

I could see that. 100. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Bills are picking 26. I need pass rusher, man. I mean, Gregory says on one side, then you have Michael. Michael Hoyt returning from Achilles tear. Joey Bosa really kind of blew it in the playoffs. Now they're doing Bradley Chubb, who can never stay healthy. I like, I just. They traded the second rounder for D.J. morgan. I think the Bills, like, they need a pass rusher. Like, they just, just, just don't have a pass rush.

[Craig Korbeck]

They need a difference maker on defense.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Like the, the Chiefs got George Carloftus in the first round a few years ago and that really made it. They went to what, two Super Bowls in a row after that. He got that. Like, they need that. The Bills needed impact. Pass rusher at the end here especially. Sean McDermott's defense is gone. Right. So they're really changing out a lot of those starters.

[Craig Korbeck]

I agree.

[Danny Kelly]

Defense, I think TJ Parker, the Clemson guy. Dk, like, this is where those guys start to creep up and you're like, no, all things equal. Just take like Gabe. Gabe Akis or TJ Parker from Clemson. Like, this is where those guys go.

[Danny Hyperten]

I could see either of those guys for sure. They're both. They both feel like Bills. Billy.

[Danny Kelly]

Billy.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

Like rugged can play in the snow. I don't know why that. That matters for a defensive player, but does it just feels like they're. They're both rugged players.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, no snow anymore.

[Danny Kelly]

I was gonna say it's a dome now.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, they.

[Danny Kelly]

Because they ruined football.

[Danny Hyperten]

Are they doing a dome?

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, it's retractable.

[Danny Hyperten]

Okay.

[Craig Korbeck]

That means, like, what is that? Like, so they're only going to open it up when it's nice weather and they're just going to close it down in the winter.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. So if it's sunny, they'll have it open. Or if there's a Logan Paul fight, they'll put the curtains up.

[Craig Korbeck]

I think. I think the fans should be able to vote. They should decide.

[Danny Kelly]

That's actually. That's a top tier Craig idea. Fans get to vote over the roof. But here's the. It has to be fans with tickets, though. Otherwise all the tickets.

[Craig Korbeck]

I know.

[Danny Hyperten]

Then you're gonna have a stadium called Stadium McStadium face.

[Craig Korbeck]

Stadium.

[Danny Kelly]

Stadium. Face says curtains up.

[Craig Korbeck]

Jerry Harambe Stadium two days before the game. The ticket holder should get to vote, honestly.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, that's good idea.

[Danny Hyperten]

Like, what kind of mood are we in right now?

[Craig Korbeck]

It's like, oh, check the weather. What's it gonna be? 26 and snowing it.

[Danny Kelly]

They're like, it's a negative 11 degrees. There's a lake effect snow of 2ft. We gotta.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's also.

[Danny Kelly]

Fans are like, no.

[Danny Hyperten]

Who. Who's on the other side? If it's like a team that's used to the snow, maybe we don't.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe Miami's coming to town.

[Craig Korbeck]

Miami coming.

[Danny Hyperten]

Leave it open.

[Craig Korbeck]

Jared Goff's ass is coming to town.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

We're opening the door. We're opening the roof.

[Danny Hyperten]

We're putting in snow machines.

[Danny Kelly]

We need more snow.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Damn. That's Craig. That's a. That's a great idea. Niners are picking 27th. This is a real like push pull between. Do you care about now or do you care about the future? Because now, this year the Niners need like a left guard and a safety. But then if you actually want to dare think about the future for again, Kyle Shannon said they took a Jake Moody in the third round because he's like, well, there were no other positions we a player could start, so we took a kicker. But if the diners dare to think ahead, Trent Williams is 37 years old and wants more money. Yeah, like the receivers are. Mike Evans is 32. Christian Kirk's the oldest, 29 I. I know of. And like Ricky Parasol has barely played, but he's. He's like almost 26 before week one. And then George Kittle's 32 off an Achilles injury and Drake Greenlaw is 30 something or he's coming off an Achilles injury. Like they need learners need a lot in the future.

[Craig Korbeck]

McCaffrey will also be 30 this summer.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

The Niners in two years are going to look very different.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, this is like go for it year. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

The Rams are going and I do think it's is the first episode of succession. Like, sometimes business is a big dick contest. It's like, are they Niners gonna let Sean McVeigh big dick them trying to beat the Seahawks?

[Danny Hyperten]

It's an arms race. Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

You gear up and you go for it.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

So, man, the NFC west is.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

A great.

[Danny Kelly]

He's the most athletic guard that Shanahan will just be like it.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, that's a good question.

[Danny Kelly]

From Oregon, maybe.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that was the guy who came to mind. He's super experienced, too. I think he could be like a day one starter for them.

[Danny Kelly]

That's what they'll do.

[Danny Hyperten]

Honestly, Pregnant.

[Danny Kelly]

All right. I think Texans, dude. The Texans need almost nothing. Except the Texans have everything to win a Super Bowl. Except if they could just put Joyce Dixon to CG Stroud's brain and not have him not put five fumbles again in a game. Honestly, though, they just need to give

[Danny Hyperten]

the game away, man.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe don't fumble five times. Yeah, the Texans need guards, but they also need D tackles. And I'm like, this is where I think, like, can you imagine if Peter woods from Clemson or Kid McDonald went here? Yeah, I think a defensive tackle or a guard. I think the Texans, they're also like, absolutely going for Lee Hunter. That's a defensive tackle from Texas Tech. Like, I don't know what they Take. But I think second round they could come around. Take Chase Pisantis, Texas A and M guard. Like, I think the Texans load the up on Giant people and then they try and go win a Super Bowl.

[Craig Korbeck]

You gotta, you gotta take an offensive lineman. Like you have to do everything you can to like to help CJ Stroud not panic back there.

[Danny Hyperten]

Also just help the run game. Their run game's been super frustrating.

[Craig Korbeck]

They also like don't really have a tight end. I mean, they have Dalton Schultz. I mean, could this be a team that takes Sadiq?

[Danny Hyperten]

I think so. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Damn. I didn't think of that. Should have put it in my notes.

[Craig Korbeck]

I mean, you know, you have Nico Collins, they lost Kirk and they lost Diggs, and you're like, all right, you have Nico Collins, Jaden Higgins, Tank Dell coming off the injury and you have Dalton Schultz. It's not like, like maybe a guy like Kenyan Sadiq would help.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. And they have Cade Stover, but you're probably right. Like they probably aren't as prepared as other teams to kind of do all the big tight end stuff.

[Danny Hyperten]

I think Stover hasn't done anything to keep them from drafting a tight end.

[Danny Kelly]

No, I agree. Like Brevin Jordan, Kate Stover. I'm kind of like maybe they don't have the bodies to do a lot of the multi tight end set. Yeah, maybe you're right.

[Craig Korbeck]

And they got David Montgomery running back. Yeah, probably a guard, but yeah,

[Danny Kelly]

big people. Falcons pick 20. Well, they would pick 29th. Well, no, I just put the Falcons here because I thought it was more fun to talk about the Rams at 13. But the Falcons traded 13th pick to the Rams last year for James Pierce Jr. Who played great and then now has multiple felony charges. Who knows if he's going to play. Falcons quietly have no receivers behind Drake London. Like I was actually kind of shocked. It's like Dotson.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. They lost Darnell Mooney. They have Johan Dotson, who I kind of always liked, but they have Johan Dotson, Alamane Zakias and like that is literally at Casey Washington. I've never heard of. Like they don't anybody. It's like literally Drake London and then

[Danny Hyperten]

Dotson ends in Pitts is kind of a receiver.

[Craig Korbeck]

Sure.

[Danny Kelly]

It's shocking, but yeah, I could see, I could see a receiver.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's a great spot for a receiver I like.

[Danny Kelly]

But they have the second. So they have the 48th pick. They have a second round or third rounder.

[Craig Korbeck]

And yeah, the 48th pick. You're looking at what Omar Cooper. If you're lucky. Chris Brazil. Zachariah Branch. Jeremy Bernard.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yep. I think the thing that comes to my mind with both, I guess the question is do you think two is going to be starting or do you think it's going to be Pennix? Either way, I think you have to find a guy that can uncover and get open quickly because I think the. The game, I think the passing game is going to be rhythm based. Hit the back foot, get the ball out.

[Danny Kelly]

But don't you feel like two and Pennix have opposite passing charts? Like, you know what I mean? Pennix kind of only pushes it outside.

[Danny Hyperten]

It is interesting. That's true.

[Craig Korbeck]

Is like ripping it down the sideline back shoulder and two is like throwing slants.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Pennix's shot chart is kind of like. Like it's. It's probably not Steph Curry but it's like it's just all around the arc and it right clamps in the middle.

[Danny Hyperten]

I think Brazil would work well with Pennix because he's that big, long, explosive guy.

[Craig Korbeck]

Down skinny Marquez Valdez scantling.

[Danny Hyperten]

Totally even skinnier. Ted Hurst from Georgia State would make a lot of sense for them. He's a very interesting. Who big receiver. Tedros from Georgia.

[Craig Korbeck]

Ted. His name's Ted. Ted. My dad's name's Ted. His name's Ted Hurst.

[Danny Hyperten]

Hurst, Georgia State.

[Danny Kelly]

Hold on. Do you guys want to take us? I do have actually some. A few players in this draft and a lie prepared.

[Danny Hyperten]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

As good as an example as any. So I want to shout out Dane Brugler from the Athletic who has a 630 page.

[Danny Hyperten]

The beast is incredible.

[Danny Kelly]

It's called the Beast. It is the most in depth thing ever. He's the 13th center, the 13th best center in this draft who will not be drafted. He's like fluent in Portuguese and I'm like.

[Danny Hyperten]

He has all these facts about their, their. What they did in their upbringing. All they. What they did in high school. Their favorite crazy ice cream flavor. It's just crazy how much detail is in here.

[Danny Kelly]

So I'm scrolling through and I'm just looking.

[Craig Korbeck]

You think I could make my own beast. But about draft scouts.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yes.

[Craig Korbeck]

Like I have a list. It's like Daniel Jeremiah 63205. I'm doing like Danny Kelly.

[Danny Hyperten]

Ben started out in the Raven.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. To do that top 100 beast for draft.

[Danny Kelly]

Top 100 draft analyst is. That's really good. You should do that. Okay, wait here. Final few teams here. Broncos, not a ton of picks. They flip the first rounder for Jaylen Waddle. And they have no third rounder too. So they have this, a second rounder and then like later. And they basically need a running back to replace J.K. dobbins, need a linebacker because the fans don't like Alex Singleton, even though it's a heartwarming story. And then they need a tight end because it's Evan Angam and. And Troutman. But before we even go into that dk, someone emailed in and I'm forgetting your name. I'm sorry, but I'm reading your question, which is what you wanted. People wanted to know why we thought DJ Moore for the 60th pick to the Bills and change is a good deal for the Bears. And the Buffalo paid a lot. But they wanted to know why we thought the Broncos trading away the 30th pick for Jalen Waddle was smart for Denver, even though Jayla Waddle is like sneakily like a year. Well, they were like, he's a year younger. He's really two years younger. But I wanted the Waddle trade versus the DJ More trade

[Danny Hyperten]

because DJ Moore was a malcontent. He's older and they gave him a giant new contract.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

You know where I stand.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig thinks it was a good deal.

[Craig Korbeck]

I do.

[Danny Kelly]

I think. Did you. More will be better in fantasy. In real life. I think the. The problem was that DJ Moore was last seen Lola gagging on a route in overtime of the playoffs that could have advanced them to the afc, the NFC Championship game. And he like gave up on the route. And the entire value of him in Buffalo will be extending plays as Josh Allen creates plays that weren't called in the playoffs. Like, it's entire value is to like, do what he was kicked off the team for doing.

[Craig Korbeck]

In all fairness, it was probably really cold in that game, as we know. And now it's not going to be cold in Buffalo because we have a dome. So it'll be fine.

[Danny Kelly]

Good point.

[Craig Korbeck]

Also, DJ Moore is a diva and is a superstar and wants to be seen as a superstar. And now he can be. He doesn't have to share the spotlight with anybody else.

[Danny Kelly]

Jalen Waddle loves sharing.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, he does.

[Danny Kelly]

He's a sharer. Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

But I agree.

[Danny Hyperten]

This is a.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's a fair point.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Broncos. I want to shout Jonah Coleman, I think makes sense to the bronze. I think Eli Stowers. He's like kind of like an Evan Ingram. And I wonder if Sean Page would want Eli Stowers. I don't personally understand tight ends who can't really block anymore. I don't I'd rather get great blocking Titans teach him to catch than get a great receiving tight end and teach him that. Like.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't really understand the astronauts question.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, exactly. I'd rather teach the astronauts to drill, but it's cooler to have drillers than astronaut.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, that's true.

[Danny Kelly]

Patriots team needs. I was gonna write a joke, but I was too afraid. So I'm just saying. Does this pick get traded for A.J. brown, the 31st overall pick?

[Craig Korbeck]

That's been widely reported.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't think it's gonna. I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

I think they probably wait for A.J. brown to get traded after the June 1 deadline, which the cap money goes down. But I just think overall the edge rusher. The Patriots need a pass rush. But I'm like, Morgan Moses, the right tackle is 35 years old and he got. The Patriots signed him for $5 million last year and they made the Super Bowl. But like, there's a reason Morgan Moses was available for $5 million. I'm like, you probably need another right tackle.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

[Danny Kelly]

Isn't that just weird? Drake May's right tackle is 35 years old.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

DK Seahawks last pick.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Running back.

[Danny Hyperten]

And we're running out of gas here, I think a little bit.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, good thing we're on the 32nd pick.

[Danny Kelly]

Thank God you kept your whole line of receiver core. You need a bunch of defense.

[Danny Hyperten]

I think pass rush here. I think corner. Yeah. Those are the main two ones for me.

[Danny Kelly]

You won the Super Bowl. You don't need much.

[Danny Hyperten]

People are connecting them with running backs at the spot. I hope that doesn't happen. Hopefully that's a second round thing. But.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. Because what do they do? They just have the 32nd pick and then the 64th pick.

[Danny Hyperten]

They have four total picks in this draft.

[Danny Kelly]

They need to trade. They're going to trade back. Seattle will trade out of that third.

[Danny Hyperten]

They probably will trade out. There's actually probably going to be quite a bit of value for that three second pick because then, you know, it's like the first pick of the second round, you kind of have your pick of the litter.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

And you get that fifth year option. So they could trade back with a team that wants to take a quarterback in the. In theory there. And so I, I do see them probably trading back.

[Danny Kelly]

If I could actually make a draft prediction where I'm like most confident something will happen that isn't like Mendoza to the Raiders.

[Danny Hyperten]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

I would say Seattle trading out of the 32nd pick is the most because they only have four picks and they will get multiple offers for the 32nd pick. So I think Seattle will trade out of that pick. Okay, so there's a team needs. Go to nfldraft.theringer.com DK's draft guide players big board team needs if you want to read the things you just heard. Couple emails.

[Craig Korbeck]

No, no kickers though. You won't be able to find any kicker information.

[Danny Hyperten]

Absolutely not.

[Craig Korbeck]

Well, how many kickers get drafted each year? Kind of roughly.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean they should be a handful. Six or seven.

[Craig Korbeck]

Five.

[Danny Kelly]

You shouldn't draft kickers at all because the rate of kickers getting drafted is horrific. There's actually no. You need less likely to be good on their team.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, I'm not scout. I. I just refuse. I'm not going to go scout kickers. I'm sorry.

[Danny Kelly]

That's actually like a study in my contract.

[Danny Hyperten]

I'm not studying.

[Danny Kelly]

There are no position less likely to remain with their team than the kicker you take. No matter where they take them.

[Danny Hyperten]

Somewhere out there is a Chevy truck and the person who drives it, well, that's a Chevy person.

[Craig Korbeck]

You probably know one.

[Danny Kelly]

Your buddy, your sister. Ones who always show up to the first to rise, the last to leave.

[Danny Hyperten]

They always have that little extra something

[Danny Kelly]

and maybe you've got it too. Chevrolet together, let's drive.

[Danny Hyperten]

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[Danny Kelly]

Okay, we have an email here about the moon because we got some stuff about Sullivan Moon. No, the real moon. Wrong. But I also dk, we got some

[Danny Hyperten]

stuff about the real moon.

[Craig Korbeck]

We were speculating about the moon's rotational situation and we may have gotten some things wrong. Although I think we were spiritually correct.

[Danny Hyperten]

We might need to retire from talking about space.

[Danny Kelly]

No, we're just getting going. So dk, okay, what was your question with the moon?

[Danny Hyperten]

I wanted to know if the moon just sits up there like a knuckleball,

[Craig Korbeck]

you know, because we know the moon is. Is circling the Earth. But we were saying, is it spinning while it's doing that? Is it spinning on its own axis?

[Danny Hyperten]

The question was, like, if there's a. If there's a backside of the moon or a dark side of the moon, which is what we reference it as, the implication, or the. Whatever the. What we infer there is that we have never seen it.

[Craig Korbeck]

Would. Would that phrase exist if we're. If it were not for Pink Floyd, like Knuckleball.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, Dark side of the Moon.

[Craig Korbeck]

No, that's a good album, too. The Pink Floyd album. Knuckleball is good.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's a favorite.

[Craig Korbeck]

And carry. It's a deep cut that was unreleased, but if you can find that, it's quite good. Anyways.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's a good question, Craig. I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Did they make it a phrase?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe.

[Craig Korbeck]

That's stupid. I want to know what the email said about us talking about the moon's rotation.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I'll tell you. First of all, what Carlos said when we stopped recording. Carlos was like, you guys are fucking idiots.

[Craig Korbeck]

But then. But then we kind of got to the point where it's like the same. The moon is fixed to the Earth in a way where it's kind of always facing us. It is rotating, but with us. So it's almost like it's not right.

[Danny Kelly]

So we got.

[Craig Korbeck]

From our perspective.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, we got a lot of emails about this, so I'm gonna read one from Luke. But I understand a lot of people were very mad about us getting the mood wrong.

[Craig Korbeck]

So here we go.

[Danny Hyperten]

Here we go.

[Craig Korbeck]

Elbow Skywalker over here. What's he got?

[Danny Hyperten]

All right, let's go. Let's get this man slanting over with

[Danny Kelly]

most things I hate. Leftovers from past dinners, a bagel, big breakfast. Can't control me. All right, all right, we get it. Luke says, I'm 25. I wish he'd left that out. Because you're explaining the moon to me. He said, I'm an undergrad, degree in physics. I don't use professionally, but I did have to ask. I did have to answer Batika's moon question. The moon is spinning, but the time the moon takes to do one full rotation is the same as the time it takes to revolve around the Earth, which is a bit more than 27 days. That's why we always see the same side of the moon. If the moon was not spinning, we'd see all the sides of the moon throughout the month, with our view changing slightly day by day. Isn't that what we said, yeah, I

[Danny Hyperten]

mean, that is what we. That's what we were implying or saying kind of indirectly, that the reason why

[Craig Korbeck]

this, this Artemis 2 trip was special is because we're seeing the. The backside of the Moon. That even though the Moon is spinning, it spins slow enough that we don't ever get to see the opposite side of the Moon.

[Danny Hyperten]

The question was basically like, are we seeing the same chunk of Moon at all times or is it spinning? We see the backside too. It's, you know, it is spinning.

[Danny Kelly]

It's spinning, but we see the same part, right?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yes.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay. So it's like.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's like tied to a string or whatever.

[Danny Kelly]

So Luke says this is due to a process called tidal locking. A kind of orbital resonance. A stable state of a ratio between an orbiting body's rotation and revolution. And it's usually between planets and Moons. Since gravity is weaker at great distances, the far side of the Moon is experiencing weaker gravity than the one that is closest to Earth. This difference in gravity creates a bulge. His words, not mine. In the Moon, that changes positions based on the Moon's rotation. And the Moon's bulge exerts an angular force on the Moon itself that impacts its rotation. So if the Moon was spinning faster than it was orbiting, as it did when it was first formed, the bulge created by Earth's gravity would produce a torque that slows down the Moon's rotation. So the Earth big bulged the Moon to match its rotation. Right. That's what that means.

[Craig Korbeck]

We're gravity mogging.

[Danny Kelly]

Gravity mogging. So here's the question. I gotta tell you, I feel like I missed the day of school where I learned about this.

[Craig Korbeck]

I have talking.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, tides. I am 31 years old and I still don't totally understand how the Moon controls the tides. I don't really get it.

[Danny Hyperten]

Gravity.

[Danny Kelly]

But what the does that mean?

[Danny Hyperten]

The Moon has its own gravity. Right. And it pulls the water up slightly towards it.

[Danny Kelly]

It. That is also the extent to which I understand it. But how does it.

[Danny Hyperten]

Why am I. I'm not going to fucking explain anything that has to do with the Moon. I don't know.

[Craig Korbeck]

I think we were kind of right. Dk.

[Danny Kelly]

But if the moons.

[Danny Hyperten]

But this one Carlos is saying we

[Craig Korbeck]

definitely said the moon doesn't.

[Danny Hyperten]

But if the moon picturing was correct.

[Craig Korbeck]

It is not. Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

If the Moon's rotation is the same as the Earth's rotation. I'm not saying I'm doubt it. I just don't understand it. How does the Moon change the. The tides of the ocean and obviously very predictable, consistent ways. If it's the same, like, why is the moon. I don't understand.

[Craig Korbeck]

I remember watching something with Neil DeGrasse Tyson where he said, it's the earth is actually shifting underneath the water, and that's why we have tides that move in and out. No way is that. It's the earth moving, not the water.

[Danny Kelly]

So the Earth. The moon is holding the water in place and the earth's moving something more

[Craig Korbeck]

or less is what Neil DeGrasse said.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Why don't we have someone explain that shit too? Because that is very interesting.

[Danny Kelly]

The tides work.

[Craig Korbeck]

I gotta say, we'd have a blast with Neil DeGrasse if he.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, yeah, dude.

[Craig Korbeck]

He does a lot of pods. Maybe.

[Danny Hyperten]

Maybe I would reach out. Let's reach out.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, dude. Neil, if you want to come on the show. Open invite, please email us at Ringer Fantasy Football.

[Danny Hyperten]

I. I heard he was on the. The Logan Paul podcast. Or is it Jake Paul? Which one's the super annoying one? Well, they're both.

[Craig Korbeck]

Keep going.

[Danny Hyperten]

Which one is the one that boxes?

[Craig Korbeck]

Jake.

[Danny Hyperten]

Okay. I think it was his podcast.

[Craig Korbeck]

But Jake, the more popular boxer.

[Danny Hyperten]

Anyway, he was.

[Craig Korbeck]

Logan has a more popular podcast, I think.

[Danny Hyperten]

I don't know. One of the Paul brothers was asking, was basically like, you believe in the moon landing? And he basically went off. Neil DeGrasse Tyson did about how, like, stupid you have to be to believe it's not real.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, yes, I did see that.

[Danny Kelly]

I also love the whole, like, we didn't go to the moon. I'm like, have you ever seen an airplane? That's. It's crazy. Like, that is like 96% of the stuff is the giant heavy metal thing flying.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, no. It was. It was Logan Paul. He debated the moon landing with.

[Danny Hyperten]

Debated.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like, there's an airplane. You'd be like, that's bullshit. I don't believe in that. Most of the thing I would get over before I keep going. I have a couple more emails with dk. Will you. We have. We have an incredible book that was gifted to us by a longtime listener to the show named Matt. Matt, you know who you are.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

We're not allowed to say who this is. I guess we know what.

[Craig Korbeck]

You know what you did.

[Danny Kelly]

Didn't ask him. And so I'm just gonna leave it.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's fair. Matt M Boned.

[Danny Kelly]

I forgot to actually do that part, but shout out to M Bone for giving us this book. In person at the combine is the man. And dk, can you. It's playing for history of. What is the subtitle?

[Danny Hyperten]

It's Legendary athletes in combat during World War II. Which is like exactly our lane.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

This is exactly what we want. Want at all times.

[Danny Kelly]

Just players who like won MVPs and then like served and won like the. Like just one.

[Danny Hyperten]

Just kind of pointing to the. Yeah, the whole idea Craig has brought up that there just weren't enough people back then. And so everybody from that era just did all the coolest imaginable in their lives and were, you know, they played college, college football, went on to war, then came back and became billionaires and movie stars and all this. So the one guy I want to bring up here, because there's multiple chapters in this, and it's like Yogi Berra is one of the. The chapters. And there's all these other things. This guy, the story of Tom Harmon. This. You know why it caught my eye? Because there's the first page of his chapter. There's a giant newspaper with the giant letters, Harmon missing again. I don't want to laugh about a guy going missing again in a war, but it's like, like if, if they would have had like question mark, exclamation, question mark, exclamation. It would have like made it a little bit, you know, it would just like been right on the nose like, he's missing again. We keep losing this guy. Where's he going? Harmon is missing again. Anyway, Tom Harmon, first of all, tailback for University of Michigan, one of the all time great college football players of his era. He won the Heisman Trophy in 1940. He was the first overall pick in the NFL draft to the Bears in 1941.

[Craig Korbeck]

Wow.

[Danny Hyperten]

He was known as Old 98. His nickname was Old 98 and he had. He was hailed by the press for his Tarzan physique and power of a wild buffalo.

[Craig Korbeck]

Tarzan physique.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, this guy was a pretty good looking guy. I think you should google him while I'm, while I'm kind of giving the background. Tom Harmon.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, yeah, he's, you know, he's. Why is he old 98? That's because it's his number.

[Danny Hyperten]

I guess so. I think so. Anyway, so he enlisted in the US Army Air Force in 1942, became B25 pilot. It on his way over to. First of all, he named his airplane Little Butch, which was a tongue quote, quote, a quote, tongue in cheek reference to his then girlfriend and future wife, Elise Knox, which I don't know if that's. I don't know what that Means Lil Butch.

[Craig Korbeck]

Interesting.

[Danny Hyperten]

She was an actress, a very famous actress and was in a whole bunch of movies. She was like a fashionista.

[Craig Korbeck]

What's her name?

[Danny Hyperten]

She was very famous. At least not much. Elise Knox. K, N O X. Oh, yeah. Anyway. Wow. So that was his girlfriend at the time. He named his plane after her. And then he crashed it on his flight over to trying to get in theater. Basically. He was flying to Morocco, but you have to make a bunch of stops, and he hit a bunch of really bad weather over French Guyana and crashed. He was the only person to survive this crash. He bailed out over the jungle, spent five days trying to find his way out, got, like, malaria, was barely survived this jungle ordeal, but then he found a village where they took him out of the village in, like, a dugout canoe and made his way home. Finally had to go back to the US and. And, like, regain his health or whatever. And then he got. He transferred to the Fighter command. So he became a P38 pilot. You remember the two. The planes were like the two fuselages, and then it was like the pilot or the little cockpit in the middle.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's a P38. And he was assigned to the China, Burma, India theater, which we don't talk about as much in the World War II kind of discussion. It's usually Europe and. And the Pacific, but this was in China, Burma, India theater under General Pappy Chenal. Pappy Chenault. Legendary, infamous general who helped form the famous Flying Tigers, which I have heard of the Flying Tigers. I had not heard of Pappy Chenault before. But anyways, Harmon, on a mission, went out over China to. He was trying to disrupt Japanese shipping over the Yangtze river, shot down two Zeros, two. Two Japanese fighter planes, and then was shot down. He. He landed in a lake, was rescued by some Chinese gorillas. Spent 52 days. Sorry, 32 days being shuttled around hiding spots in China before he escaped and got back to, you know, Allied territory. Came back, married this model slash actress. Her wedding dress was made out of the parachute that he bailed out with just so many fucking badass little details of this story. He. He saved the parachute that he used to bail out over China and then turn that into his wedding dress for the model actress that he came back to. Sorry, I'm getting a little long winded here, but this guy had an incredible life.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a real man. He came back, like, I feel right now. Do you feel, like, inadequate?

[Danny Hyperten]

You're a podcaster. That's, like, roughly equal.

[Craig Korbeck]

I Have more to add on this man when you're done. Dk. Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

What.

[Danny Hyperten]

So hold on, let me get through it. I'll try and get through it quickly, but this guy had a hell of a life.

[Craig Korbeck]

He came back.

[Danny Hyperten]

He played for the Rams for a couple years.

[Craig Korbeck]

Sure.

[Danny Hyperten]

However, one of the greatest details of all time.

[Craig Korbeck]

He. He didn't.

[Danny Kelly]

He.

[Danny Hyperten]

He basically. His career didn't last very long. He was still kind of like his body was wrecked from. From these two ordeals that he. In the war. And he didn't like the T formation offense that the Rams were running. And having broken his nose 13 times, he decided to retire. 13 times. Are you, Are they not wearing. I guess they weren't wearing the normal helmets that we typically face masks. 13 broken noses. Jesus Christ, man.

[Danny Kelly]

He went on to stuck in French Guyana like that was easy. This sucks.

[Danny Hyperten]

Broken noses. He probably looks like friggin Luke Wilson or something anyway. Or Pete Carroll, I guess. He retired, got into broadcasting, was the first play by play announcer for the first televised Rose Bowl. He went on to be the play by play guy for the UCLA Bruins in the 60s and 70s. Three kids. His youngest, Mark Harmon, that's where I was gonna go.

[Craig Korbeck]

He's the dad of the NCIS guy.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's 100 recognizable. Google Mark Harmon, you will recognize him immediately.

[Craig Korbeck]

Mark Harmon is very famous. He's the star of NCIS for 20 years.

[Danny Kelly]

He was like, guy's father is Mark Harmon from.

[Danny Hyperten]

Mark Harmon was named Sexiest man alive in 1986.

[Craig Korbeck]

I see Mark Harmon walking around Brentwood all the time.

[Danny Hyperten]

That's his dad.

[Craig Korbeck]

I'm gonna go old 98 Tom Harmon,

[Danny Hyperten]

incredible fucking life story.

[Craig Korbeck]

That's what I was going to say is that I was like, I literally just clicked this guy's name and I was like, wait a minute. Elise Knox is the mother of Mark Harmon?

[Danny Kelly]

What the fuck did you got? Ask Mark Harmon if he's still got that wedding dress parachute.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh my God. These people lived incredible fucking extraordinary lives, dude.

[Craig Korbeck]

Also, tough beat for the Chicago Bears, who took this guy first overall after winning the Heisman. And he said he, he declined to sign with the Bears.

[Danny Hyperten]

He's like, nah, I'm gonna go into broadcast.

[Craig Korbeck]

He said, I was done playing, playing football, and I want to be in movies and radio. Imagine if Fernando's just like, I'm good, I'm gonna be an actor, actually.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, it's kind of like the A's drafting Kyler Murray and then he decided to play football instead.

[Craig Korbeck]

I just love that he's like Nah. Heisman, first overall pick. I'm gonna go be a movie star.

[Danny Hyperten]

Harmon missing again. He's missing again. Where is this guy? I never know what he's doing back there.

[Danny Kelly]

Dk. What an incredible start. I can't. What is the name of this book again?

[Danny Hyperten]

Hold on. It's called Playing for Keeps. By the way, the title of the book came from a quote from Mark Hartman, who said when he got.

[Craig Korbeck]

He.

[Danny Hyperten]

When he got his wings or whatever, and then. And then his command and was the pilot of his plane, he's like, obviously, you know, playing college football, a whole different thing now. We're playing for keeps. Like, basically the gravity of the situation hit him as he was going to war.

[Craig Korbeck]

Dude. His. Elise Knox, his wife died in 2012.

[Danny Hyperten]

She was like 92 or something.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, she was 90. She died the year I graduated. I was listening to Avicii and Elise Knox was still around.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, she was in like 30 movies.

[Craig Korbeck]

She was born in 1917 and was here long enough to know what to hear Flow Rider on the radio. Oh, man, that's unbelievable.

[Danny Hyperten]

Heisman winner, old 98.

[Craig Korbeck]

Sometimes, you know, everyone says life is short. Sometimes it's like it's. It could be long. She was born in 1917 and she lived to 2012. The amount of things that this woman saw.

[Danny Hyperten]

Think about that.

[Craig Korbeck]

I mean, my God, dude.

[Danny Kelly]

Wait, when was. When. When did the Wright brothers make that flight?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh, yeah. There was like a 100 year gap where we've learned how to fly, and then we also went to the moon.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, like 60 years.

[Craig Korbeck]

We couldn't fly planes when she was born, and then there was an iPhone by the time she died,

[Danny Kelly]

1903. I was wrong.

[Danny Hyperten]

But still, you know who Tom Harmon looks like is?

[Danny Kelly]

Mark. Carmen.

[Danny Hyperten]

Well, a little bit. Yeah. There's a family resemblance there. No, he. This picture of him as a. As a football player. He looks like the dude. I can't remember his name, but he's in. I'll look it up. Because I'll. I'll find his name, but he's. He's in Zero Dark Thirty as, like, the guy who does the.

[Craig Korbeck]

Oh, sure, Waterboarding.

[Danny Hyperten]

What's his name? Jason Clark.

[Craig Korbeck]

Jason Clark. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperten]

He looks just like Jason Clark. Yeah, I guess they're related.

[Craig Korbeck]

I could see that.

[Danny Hyperten]

Anyhow, Tom Harmon.

[Craig Korbeck]

Anyway, that's. That's old 98 for you.

[Danny Kelly]

All right.

[Danny Hyperten]

What a story. What a life.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. All right, well, shout out to Matt for giving us that book. Holy crap. Dk. We'll get more of this.

[Danny Hyperten]

It's a gift that keeps on giving.

[Danny Kelly]

Guys, I had a couple good emails here, but I don't know if the emails can live up to that story now.

[Craig Korbeck]

We'll get to them later. We have to end on. On old old 98 himself.

[Danny Kelly]

I think we got to in 90. I can't top all 98. Okay, thank you, DK. Thank you for your service. Tom Harmon, Heisman Trophy winning. We found him. Mark Harman. Thank you in advance for talking to Craig and Brentwood about his father. Your father. Thank you for that. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you. Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone who emailed us in. Email us ringer Fancy football. Gmail.com I want mail. We're going to do emails to the mailbag. Email us mailbag questions if you have. We're gonna go draft mailbag this week. We recorded this episode Friday, but email us next week for mailbag questions and of course. Thank you Lord Lauren.

[Danny Hyperten]

Thank you Avicii.

[Craig Korbeck]

Dk.

[Danny Kelly]

My God.

[Craig Korbeck]

Talk dirty to me.

[Danny Kelly]

Every time I listen to levels or wake me up, I'm like, this is even better than I remember. Remember.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah, we're, we're. It's. We're never going to have it as good as we did.

[Danny Hyperten]

They.

[Craig Korbeck]

They're not making music like that, right?

[Danny Kelly]

I told you guys that my. My dad now likes Aichi. He started listening to it.

[Danny Hyperten]

Oh really?

[Craig Korbeck]

That's awesome.

[Danny Hyperten]

I commend him to.

[Danny Kelly]

My dad was like, have you heard of this guy, this dj? And I was like, what? And he just was like, you know the song. He's like, he's Queen's accent. He's like, you know, hey brother, do you know that song? And I was like, I am very familiar with the song. Yes, thank you, Dad.

[Craig Korbeck]

I put a VG's top five up against anybody's.

[Danny Hyperten]

Really?

[Danny Kelly]

Craig, I'm so glad you said it so I didn't have to. I was thinking about this when I listened to close to miss thing with Bill about like, like the 60s music. Everyone's like, the 60s is the best music. Yes.

[Craig Korbeck]

Hey brother, wake me up. Levels the nights like, I'm sorry but

[Danny Kelly]

it's okay. It's. It's like evolution means you get better over time. There's nothing wrong with that. That's fine. You know, it's. It's okay that like today's players than they used to be like, that's all right.

[Craig Korbeck]

I remember when we went to intro days. Spotify flies all its new employees to Stockholm for the week and we. We the. The the big event was held in a vici arena.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah, I was home. This is my Grace Lancer.

[Craig Korbeck]

Also, I should say, speaking of Lauren. Lorne Michaels.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

On the town we just had. There's a new documentary coming out this week called Lauren. And we had the director on Morgan Neville, who's a very famous documentary filmmaker who had two years of unlimited behind the scenes access to Lorne Michaels and snl, which is like unheard of.

[Danny Hyperten]

Yeah. This is unprecedented.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yes. I've seen the doc. It's great. I think it's in theaters coming out at the end of this week. By the time people are hearing it, then it'll obviously come out on streaming later. But go see it. It's really, really good. If you care about any of that stuff.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig, did you like the movie, first of all? Gonna do that. Did you like the movie that they had that they made about Saturday Night Live?

[Craig Korbeck]

Yes, Saturday night. The Jason Madame movie. I cried.

[Danny Hyperten]

Really? Okay. So you could like pair these two together, watch that movie, then watch the. The Lord Michael's doc. What's the Lord Michaels, Lauren?

[Craig Korbeck]

It's called the Lorne Michaels doc is called Lorne. The Saturday Night Live movie is called Saturday Night. I Cried. That's like half joking, but I more. I was just like. I'm just so happy to be there.

[Danny Hyperten]

Tears of each theater.

[Craig Korbeck]

And I was like, this is just all I want. It was like a fictional retelling of like the First Night of SNL in 1975. And it was great.

[Danny Hyperten]

Craig is a big SNL fan in case people didn't pick up on that.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

I do like it. Like it a lot. That was my dream as a child.

[Danny Kelly]

I think we have to see a movie called Lauren. We literally have to.

[Craig Korbeck]

It's good.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean. Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

And listen to the episode on the Town with Morgan Neville and. And then go listen to Avichi.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korbeck]

Levels, sure.

[Danny Kelly]

The.

[Craig Korbeck]

There's a radio edit, which is like three and a half minutes tight. Or there's the original, which is like five plus minutes. Minutes. And that has like a more traditional, like slow kind of EDM build up of just like. It's just like a 60 second of like a beat. But.

[Danny Kelly]

But it hits the levels backward.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. It's worth the wait.

[Danny Kelly]

Backward. Additional levels. You know what, Dick? It's all right.

[Craig Korbeck]

You'll find him one day. Even if it's in your 70s, like high 50.

[Danny Hyperten]

I mean, I know, I know he'll find you. I can appreciate it.

[Craig Korbeck]

Yeah. Listen to his top five. Five go. When you're on a run. I'll give you his top five.

[Danny Hyperten]

Okay?

[Craig Korbeck]

Listen to them and let me know what you think.

[Danny Hyperten]

All right, Great.

[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperten]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperten]

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[Danny Kelly]

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