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Giants Start Dart, Power Ranking the Best Fantasy Buy-Low Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and Farm Time With Craig
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Craig Robick
Foreign.
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Dan Heifetz
Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Dan Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Robick, and today it is power hour where we power rank something every Wednesday. This week we are power ranking trade candidates. These are players you should buy low on after three weeks into the season. We're also going to talk news because Jackson Dart is going to start for the New York Giants, baby. And then we're going to do fantasy court, some emails and I think we're getting a little farm time with Craig. Craig spent a week on a farm or whatever.
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Danny Kelly
Now farm time.
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Dan Heifetz
You know, the coastal elites are getting farm time and I can't wait for farm takes with getting his.
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Danny Kelly
He's getting his hands dirty.
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Dan Heifetz
Finally, coastal leads.
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Danny Kelly
How dare you.
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Craig Robick
You live in Washington, dc.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah, me too. Yeah. New York, dc la. Yeah, that's pretty. Yeah. Farm time with the coastal elites. That coming up. But first, trade candidates. And also we're going to take a quick break. This episode of the Ringer Fantasy football show is presented by Hyundai. The all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid proves that an incredible SUV is so much more than the sum of its parts. It's more than a spacious interior. It's more than being able to navigate difficult terrain. And it's way more than driving farther than you ever thought possible. It it's the all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid. So much more than just another SUV. Visit Hyundai USA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. Okay, we're going to get to power hour. We're going to go through all these buy lows. We're going to go through a bunch of players we think you should trade for after a few weeks. But first, I don't care about any of that. Jackson Dart is going to start for the New York Giants in week four against the Chargers. You know, dk, do you.
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Danny Kelly
What's up?
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Dan Heifetz
Want to hear the cold, dark truth about whether starting your rookie quarterback to save your season, to save your head coach's job, to save your franchise and your fan base's interest in your team, or do you want to watch Jackson Dart hit some dingers?
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Danny Kelly
Dingers.
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Craig Robick
Dingers.
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Danny Kelly
Dingers. Look, it can't get much worse than the offense that we saw last week. So there's at least that.
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Dan Heifetz
I mean, it can always get worse. We've learned that one.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah, but we. But, but I like to think on the bright side. So at the very least, Jackson Dart is going to be able to scramble around a little bit. Present a different type of style to defenses that Russell Wilson simply cannot bring anymore.
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Dan Heifetz
Probably won't even hit the goal post with a single pass all season.
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Danny Kelly
Do you think it was that fourth down or that, that goal line series that really cemented it for Russell Wilson or this Was this kind of the plan all along?
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Dan Heifetz
Honestly, Yes, I do. I I I can't unsee that throwing it away. I I I yeah, I mean Sunday Night Football the the Giants had the ball at the goal line with down 15 with 3 1/2 minutes left, which again isn't impossible. 3 Especially with the Giants defenses playing you score a touchdown and Russell Wilson threw the ball with three of four plays.
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Danny Kelly
Like I I he literally threw it into the tunnel.
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Dan Heifetz
He threw it into the tunnel. He threw it and hit the other goalpost with the other two plays. I I at that point, I mean they're owing three. Your odds of making the playoffs I think are like 3%. Oh, and Ford's basically zero. The entire season's already over. I benching Russell Wilson's easy. I think the question is like you should put James Winston in whoever. I hope Jackson Dart's ready. I'm excited. I'm in season. I'm going to just hope and pretend this is a great idea. And if he plays well then this is awesome. Maybe Brian D could save his job. If darts plays like ass, then it's like clearly Dable just is trying to save his cheeks. But I don't know. Craig is the do you I'm purely just excited about this but do you think this is something dumb teams do or do you think Dark Dart is just a first round quarterback and should play?
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Craig Robick
I think most of the time we discussed this in, in August. Most of the time if he's going to be good, he's going to be good. Like when whether it takes a little extra time, like if Dart's going to work out, it doesn't matter when you play him. Whether it's week four, week seven or week 11, they're bringing him in. Everybody. You know the Giants have the hardest schedule in the league and so the thought was like when can you even bring him in? It basically doesn't get Easy until week 13 when they play the Patriots or something like that. Or week 10 against the Bears. They're bringing them in against the Chargers and then the next week they play the Saints. But then it gets really dicey. It's Eagles, Broncos, Eagles, Niners, Bears, Packers, Lions. Oh my. I think the Giants fans needed this and you have to do this and it's totally fine. And honestly, this might be a nice middle because if, if day ball waited till like week 13 to start dart and he was like, okay, for five weeks, the Giants go four and 13. There's an argument that day ball should get to come back because this is the guy he drafted you need to see. But now week four, he's going to get 13, 14 games of Jackson Dart. If, if day ball sucks and is terrible, maybe there's a chance that they kick Dable out. If they, if, if Dart doesn't perform in these 14 weeks.
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Dan Heifetz
What do you think about that? I agree with that totally. I, I Dart, I man, I hope he's good. I, I, I really just hope they don't screw him up. Honestly.
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Craig Robick
I the, you know what's nice about Dart? I feel like a lot of times with rookies, you know, I mean we saw with Caleb, it was like, I don't know, is he a leader? Did it, did the teammates like him? Like, what's actually going on? It seems like everybody loves Jackson Dart. The vibes with the, the vibes with the Giants, although the team is terrible, is like weirdly not that bad. We were joking about doing a power ranking of the worst vibes in the league and like the vibes on the Giants to me were are not bottom five in the league even though they're a bottom five team. They like Jackson Dart. It seems like the teammates like one another. I like at least that the guy coming in to play quarterback is maybe the most liked quarterback on the team even though he's a rookie.
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Danny Kelly
I like that.
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Dan Heifetz
This episode is brought to you by Disney plus Hulu and espn. Now you can get all of ESPN in the new ESPN app along with Disney and Hulu with a limited time plus offer the biggest sports, movies and shows in one bundle all for just $29.99 a month for 12 months. Visit Disney/Hulu ESPN bundle.com for details. Ad supported plan auto renews at regular price. Currently $35.99 a month. Subject to change unless canceled. Ends January 5, 2026. Terms apply. Just to zoom out for a second on the Giants for a second. Dart's actually good. I know I'm a little biased but I look at the Giants and it to me, you know, I've been pretty realistic about this team for the most part. I you know, in the heat of the game I get excited but like I'm pretty realistic about them and I do think this team is different than even a few years ago because you look, you're like Brian Dexter Lawrence, Brian Burns, Abdul Carter are like blue chip defensive lineman. Pieces at the hardest pieces, the hardest spots to find. And then you look at Andrew Thomas is a legit left tackle. Malik Neighbors is a legit wide receiver. That's f. That is like, like five really important blue chips at five important spots. Cam Sco is a fun player that will be in a good rookie contract that is hard to find and frankly, progress. And it is easier to find all the auxiliary pieces. And Giants fans, what we're telling ourselves is if Dart is good, you fix the offensive line. Everything else you can figure out. You can figure out receivers after your number one guy. You can figure out cornerbacks like the Giants have defensive line, you just need the offensive line. But if Dart's good, that is least what I'm telling myself.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah, I mean, I think the. What you can get out of this season, I think is like a narrative thing. And it's like you're building the foundation of what will be like the new version of the Giants after basically being terrible for a really long time. And like you said, there's good foundation, there's some good skill players, there's some reasons to be excited. Scaboo is looking awesome so far. You know, obviously there's. There's tons of talent on the defensive line. Um, and I. But I think you have to be realistic about Dart, too. Like you keep saying, if he's going to be good, I think there's going to be extreme highs and lows with him. And you got to just be ready to kind of weather it, especially with this upcoming schedule of very, very hard defenses. These defenses make good, experienced, veteran quarterbacks look silly. So, like, just be ready for some highs and lows.
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Dan Heifetz
On that note, the Chargers, of all the teams to put them in against the Chargers, they're undefeated. Herbert looks amazing on offense. To the Chargers, defense looks like one of the. The. One of the better units in the entire NFL. Yeah, it's a little terrifying, to be honest. They're kind of. I mean, honestly, I dk. Am I cynical for thinking, you know, players sometimes they're like, oh, he made a business decision. You know what I mean? He's thinking about. I look at this. This is a business decision. This is the head coach knowing that they need to throw ownership of bone and get the fans engaged again. They need to keep butts in seats and they need to get people, like, excited about this team. And also, they can't start, oh, and four or people will once again stop coming to these games throughout. Because that's. Is ultimately what the owners care about, is they notice when seats are empty. Am I cynical for thinking that you.
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Danny Kelly
Like, in terms of. This is more just about, like, getting fans excited than actual creating football?
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Dan Heifetz
I think if you're trying to win this week, are you playing Jameis or, like, is this the responsible thing to do?
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Danny Kelly
I think so, actually. I mean, it's there. There is the discussion. You have to. You have to take this into account. Like, the idea that you can ruin a quarterback's confidence, that's always kind of in the back of your mind. But at the same time, I think that among the veterans on the team and basically everyone on the team, like, what's the point of playing Russell Wilson anymore? Kind of. You know what I mean? Like, what. What's the fucking point? What are we doing here?
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Dan Heifetz
It can't be a situation.
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Craig Robick
Jameis Winston. What's the point of playing Jameis right now? Like, this is not a playoff team. I need to see what you have in Jackson. Dart, I guess. Wait a week till they play the Saints. Sure.
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Dan Heifetz
No, it's not about just keeping a cupcakes thing. I guess. I just. I think I'm more into, like, rookies should probably sit more than most people. I'm okay. Like, Tom Brady sat. Aaron Rodgers sat Patrick Mahomes, which no one remembers.
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Danny Kelly
Like, particular probably should sit.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. And I'm like, I'm a little bit like, I understand you maybe like, tick tock on the clock. Like, you want to get the guy, but part of me is maybe the Giants just don't have the coaching stability to do that. But that alone is why organizations stay bad, I guess. It's like, if he's good, that's awesome. And if he's bad, I'm going to be like, well, maybe he was. He needed more time in the oven. But we'll see. I mean, I'm excited. I'm also a little nervous.
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Danny Kelly
The Chargers, I'd be worried about his confidence. That's the. That's the main thing. But at the end of the day, the expectations are zero right now for the Giants. Like, no one expects them to be good. No one expects confidence.
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Dan Heifetz
It's bad habits that can form behind bad offensive lines. That's also the fear.
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Danny Kelly
Yes, I. That's true. But I'm also. It's. I mean, it's impossible. This is an impossible decision because I also think playing is good. Like, you're going to get experience. Like, it helps to have experience, period. There's a very It's a, it's a fine line to walk though because obviously like you said, confidence issues, you could get hurt, you could develop bad habits. Those things are real. But I also think like going in there and getting some reps and getting, you know, just experience is a good thing generally speaking. So it's, it's an impossible question to answer. This is actually, you know, we'll see how this goes. But there is, I don't think one established right way to do it.
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Dan Heifetz
Overall, I still feel the way I did when they drafted him, which is that the taking Jackson darts a bet on Brian Dable, not dart. It's a bet that Dable developed Josh Allen and they're going to develop Dart. Except they Dart isn't Josh Allen. And so we're and also dropped out. Josh Allen took three years. So we'll hope. I, I really, I really hope this works. Honestly. I would like to watch the. Enjoy watching the Giants play football again. It's also in the context of Daniel Jones going to Indianapolis and I mean if he beats the Rams and go four and oh, and Dart looks like. You know what I mean? Like there's a lot of ways that this Sunday could go.
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Craig Robick
We forget that Josh Allen was terrible, horrific for two years he was really bad. I even remember that Texans game. I think it was the playoffs his second year. He was awful.
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Dan Heifetz
And that's the thing.
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Craig Robick
Josh Allen was bad for a long time.
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Dan Heifetz
And if this doesn't work with dart, I could see a world where Dable gets fired, a new coach comes in that doesn't work dark goes somewhere else and he looks good so for the Colts too. And he'll, he'll. It'll be just the only players since 2007 didn't punt five times in three weeks will be Daniel Jones, Dart for the Colts and you know, Tom Brady. So we'll see.
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Craig Robick
Hi. Hi Fitz. Is it fun at least to have something going on?
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Dan Heifetz
Unbelievably fun. I am overjoyed.
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Craig Robick
I'm feel for the next five days you get to be pretty excited and that's something he's going to be looking.
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Danny Kelly
Forward to watching this game.
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Dan Heifetz
I'm honestly, I think I was way more excited privately when this happened and now I'm getting on the show and I'm like, I felt this way so many times at the Giants recently that I feel stupid and I think I'm trying to like hide how excited I am about this. I'm irrationally excited. But I also know they're. I'm a little. I'M kind of worried they're gonna get rocked either way.
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Danny Kelly
Question, question, question. Before we wrap it up, what do you do with this guy? For fantasy, this is probably more of a two tight or, Sorry, a two quarterback slash super flex question.
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Dan Heifetz
I think Dart you could play. I don't. I mean, I wouldn't play him in week one, his first career start, another.
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Danny Kelly
Ac, but he runs so much that I feel like it's.
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Dan Heifetz
He hasn't have any passes this season. He's coming just to hand the ball off and run like they had packages for him, like he's gonna run. And again, I think rookie quarterbacks in particular, if they manage to get to the goal line, when shit goes hits the fan, they run. So I think Dart, like Daniel Jones a few years ago, could be weirdly great in fantasy. Like, even if it's like a Justin Field situation from four years ago where it's like he sucks, but the running alone could make a fantasy work. Like, you know, Blake Bortles was a good fantasy quarterback, you know?
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Craig Robick
So you think, you think it's weird that day Ball didn't design any throws for Dart when he came in in the first three games that they were all runs?
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Dan Heifetz
I don't know. I'm sure. So I. I'm sure at least one of them was like an RPO or something. And maybe it wasn't there, but overall, I just think it was weird when he put him in. I put him his first career. I think it was weird that he put him in. It's such a high leverage situation, which maybe that was the point. But he put him in the Cowboys game. It was. I think it was like a big third down or something. And I just thought it was. It was bizarre. But we'll see. I mean, look, I hope he's got it. The last thing I want to say before we go is just a reminder to everybody that Jackson Dart told this story that his parents were going to name him Diesel, and then he popped out and the parents looked at him in the operator in the delivery room, and they're like, he doesn't really look like a Diesel. And they named him Jackson. And then they named his little brother Diesel.
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Danny Kelly
He looks like a Diesel.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. Little brother's a Diesel.
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Danny Kelly
Do we have a picture of Diesel Dart or Diesel?
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Dan Heifetz
Just Google Diesel Dart.
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Danny Kelly
Okay. Because I really want to know what Diesel Dart looks like now. He's. He's like. He is a football player.
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Craig Robick
Yeah, he plays on. He plays defense. Corner Canyon.
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Danny Kelly
My God. The Dart family, they like to have their Little pieces of flair, don't they?
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah, he kind of looks like Jeremiah from Summer I Turned Pretty. Dart does.
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Danny Kelly
Like, Dart's got his. His big old chain. Diesel here has very distinctive glasses.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. So it's quite.
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Danny Kelly
They like their accessories.
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Dan Heifetz
I hope these people are in my life for 20 years. So with that said, any other news you guys wanted to hit Craig? What was the fake you got? NBA sintelled. You were like, we have huge news to hit. Don't look. And then you're like, sorry, fake.
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Craig Robick
I. I thought that Mariah Carey was performing at the super bowl halftime show. That appears to be false.
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Dan Heifetz
Is the fact that it hasn't been announced in and of itself evidence it might be Taylor Swift? They've announced that the week of week one for, like, a long time.
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Craig Robick
I don't think it's going to be Taylor Swift.
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Dan Heifetz
Well, they're late. It's weird that they're late.
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Danny Kelly
Oh, you don't.
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Craig Robick
No. The Chiefs suck, and I just don't think she's gonna do it.
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Danny Kelly
The NFL's pulling the plug on this.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah, we'll see. Yeah, they're like, yeah, it's kind of messed up.
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Craig Robick
It'd be weird for her to perform, like the last game of the NFL season in which Travis Kelsey's retiring if the Chiefs suck. I just don't think.
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Danny Kelly
I don't know.
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Craig Robick
Feels like a weird move for her.
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Dan Heifetz
Okay. All right. I want to get to now to just buy lows and just trade advice. And I want to start with just kind of like zoomed out for a second about just like general trade advice, which I think is always helpful for people, which is maybe it's basic and obvious, but contact all the winless teams in your league. Anyone who's 0 and 3 or even 1 and 2, no one wants circle just 3, 0.
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Danny Kelly
Go Full Vulture mode. Circle like a vulture.
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Dan Heifetz
Really? People are panicking. Let's see if James Connor three zero and even two and one people are feeling good. Oh, and three people are, like, batting down. Yeah, yeah.
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Craig Robick
Shoot them like a. Hey, how are you looking to improve your team? Like, how are things going? What do you need right now?
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Dan Heifetz
Yes.
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Danny Kelly
Hey, man, are you doing okay?
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Craig Robick
Yeah, I'm reading Don't kill myself books.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah, that. That's always tough.
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Craig Robick
And. And don't be the guy who sends garbage. Trade off.
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Dan Heifetz
No, don't be low ball guy.
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Craig Robick
Because then eventually does the three for one like, hey, Keon Coleman, Kamani Vidal, and Hunter Henry for Brock Bowers. Don't do that.
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Dan Heifetz
Don't literally all that happens from that.
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Danny Kelly
Is three pieces of shit for your good.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. All that happens from that is people eventually just stop taking you seriously. And then even when you want to make a fair trade, no one wants to deal with you. They just know. All they know about you is you make bad offers. So don't be that guy. And then no one's going to text you back. The other thing I'll say is just why we're doing this episode now. And I think it's, we, we doing this for a couple years now. This is the five fantasy stages of grief for a player. Week one is denial. It's week one. Who cares? Week two is like anger. You're like, why does Ashton Jente have no blocking? What is going on? Week three is bargaining. That's when people are like, maybe I could flip Ashton Jenty for someone who doesn't suck. Like, that is when it starts. And all that leads to a very important thing for me, which is what does a buylow mean? And to me, it's really simple. Like, buy lows, put the ew in value. Like, literally, if the person doesn't kind of regret drafting the player, it doesn't count because there's no discount.
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Danny Kelly
That's a good catchphrase.
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Dan Heifetz
I just, well, whatever, man. It's good you're jealous.
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Craig Robick
It's good you didn't finish the five stages. Because then you bargain. If you can't trade Ash and Genti, the next stage is depression, where you're just stuck with Ash and Genti. And then the fifth and final stage is acceptance, where you're like, well, I guess I'm just starting him all year.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. And you get basketball starts, baseball players.
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Danny Kelly
Just going, I'm going to start.
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Dan Heifetz
You're like, watch the World Series, man.
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Craig Robick
Yeah.
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Dan Heifetz
Like, yeah, no, you really do want to keep the five stages going. But I can't stress enough. Some of these players were suggesting you're going to be like, oh, him? Yeah, that's the point. That's why it's on sale. Like, if. And I think an example to me is Saquon Barkley is underperforming. Saquon Barkley is like the 13th running back through three weeks. Saquon Barkley is not discounted. Like, no. If you try to trade for Saquon, he does not cost significantly less than he did three weeks ago. Not at all. Ashton Genti, who is not a top 30 running back who has yet to have a good game in the NFL. The person who took him really regrets that. And it absolutely costs Less to get Ash and Genti did it three than it did three weeks ago. That's kind of the point. And so they're. If there isn't an element of disgust or shock at who we're talking about, it probably isn't that easy to get them unless they're on an O and three team.
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Craig Robick
Yes. It's like if you're mild like somebody like Nico Collins who's like mildly underperforming, you're not going to be able to send some garbage offer for Nico Collins.
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Dan Heifetz
It's.
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Craig Robick
You need to only target people who.
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Danny Kelly
Are truly terrible right now.
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Dan Heifetz
It's especially also if they're like a first round pick. People just are irrationally attached to their first round picks or players on their favorite team. Like, you know, don't just like, you know, Jamar Chase is harder to get other. You know what I mean? It's just. Anyway, with that said, yeah, we'll get to these guys. And a lot of these guys have sucked enough that they're probably on a lot of the O and 3 and 1 and 2 teams. So without further ado, we're gonna do this Power Hour style. And for those who don't know, every. We're gonna put two minutes on the clock and every two minutes you're gonna hear this sound. Yeah.
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Danny Kelly
What a song.
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Dan Heifetz
I want that a half hour.
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Craig Robick
Can you, can you imagine if Mariah Carey did a show and she played fantasy?
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Dan Heifetz
That would be. All right, I'm gonna. I, I power rank these if you don't like the order. Well, I, I made the order, so it's just yell at me. But yeah, we. You guys sent me who you picked and then I ordered them. So just if you don't like the.
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Craig Robick
Order, I'm surprised this guy's number one.
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Dan Heifetz
I'm doing it that well. That, that, that's like the whole point, to be honest. So we're starting with number one. DK, you sent me number one buy low after three weeks in fantasy football. Lad McConkey on the Chargers.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah, Craig. Why, first off, why are you surprised? Like, what context you mean?
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Craig Robick
I mean, well, I guess I think Lad's a good player, but I think that what we're seeing out of Keenan Allen and Quentin Johnson is real. And so I'm just, I don't really see a path where lad McConkey just takes over unless one of those guys gets hurt. But I'm curious what your argument is.
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Danny Kelly
Okay, so first of all, the Chargers are not the Chargers. I think a lot of people picture when they say the Chargers as a really run heavy, balanced slog of a team. This is a team that passes a lot. They are second in the NFL pass rate over expectation after three weeks. According to fantasy points. Herbert has 108 pass attempts which is seventh most in the NFL. So this is a good environment for receivers. There's a lot of passes to go around, there's very good quarterback and a lot of big plays are there to be had. Ladd right now obviously has started slow. He's third on his team in total target rate. But if you look deeper at like first retarget rate and some of his separation scores, it's clear to me that he's still a very good player. And the. I just believe that the target rate that we see right now where he's number three on the team is going to basically normalize and he's going to end up being probably the first overall by the end of the season in target rate. So right now he lad has run the most routes on the team. 119. He's second on the team in first street target rate which is 25% which is a good number. He has 20 first street targets according. Sorry, Quentin Johnson has 20. Lad has 19. So these like he's still a very big focal point of the offense. It just kind of hasn't worked out for him. He has the best separation score on the team according to fantasy points, best route win rate. He's a good yak creator, but he hasn't really gotten a chance to do that much so far. I just think it's just been one of those weird things where he hasn't gotten as as many big play opportunities as the other two guys have. And that's going to normalize as the year goes on. I actually think he will end up being the highest targeted player on this team.
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Craig Robick
I mean he better.
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Dan Heifetz
That's kind of the point though. I think Craig, you're surprised though is the reason he's he's a good buy. Someone took him thinking they were going to get a steal and they're like oh my God, is he the number three receiver in this team? And those people are probably thinking of benching him and that's kind of a huge thing is if you're thinking like if you look at someone's no I. It looks crazy but if someone's added Quentin Johnson and they have Quentin Johnson aladd they're looking. Most people are kind of glancing and they see lad has 10, seven and six points and Quentin Johnson's like the number three receiver in all fantasy right now. And they're like, how many weeks in a row can I keep benching Lad or sorry, can I keep benching Quentin? And at some point I think you could swoop in and I do think overall Lad will be the guy who's the leader in this team.
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Danny Kelly
I, I, I saw Matt Harmon making this point and I couldn't agree more. He's like, I think right now Quentin Johnson's the, the wide receiver four and, and Kenan is the wide receiver five and then Ladd is like the wide receiver 40 or something like that. And that is not going to be how it ends up at the end of the year. That's like where I'm making this bet.
- [22:41]
Craig Robick
I, I start, I feel like all of those guys, you're right. I mean them being 45 versus lad at 40 is nuts. But to me, I see that all centering with like all of them are in like the wide receiver 20 to 30 range. And it will be hard for Lad to separate himself. It's just my view.
- [22:55]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that's fair. And I, I think, to be clear here, I'm not necessarily saying Lad is going to end up being a wide receiver one on the year, being like a really elite fantasy player. What this is more like, I think there's a chance to buy value here and he's coming at a big discount because I think people are scared. He is far away that a wide receiver three on this team so far. And I think people are willing to start panicking a little bit on this.
- [23:20]
Dan Heifetz
Number two fantasy by list after three weeks. Craig, you submitted R.J. harvey, the running back? Rookie running back for the Broncos?
- [23:27]
Craig Robick
Yeah. He's been incredibly disappointing, unstartable through the first three weeks of the season and this has kind of gone the way we have expected. The JK Dobbins thing is working for Denver right now. He's playing very well. But if you look at how much RJ Harvey's playing, it's like he's basically playing a third of the snaps. And he's a complimentary piece in the offense, but this stuff takes a while. DK has always been big on like, wait on rookies, wait on rookies, wait on rookies. Sean Payton has a great history with with running backs drafted this early, guys that he goes after. And if you look at, I think I test, RJ Harvey looks good. Some of the underlying metrics, RJ Harvey looks good. Harvey has the lowest yards before contact per rush on the team, yet he has the best yards after contact per rush on the team and what we're seeing with J.K. dobbins, this is what J.K. dobbins does. He did this last year, first two weeks of the season last year he had 260 yards. He averaged nine yards a carry on the Chargers the first two weeks last year after that he averaged 55 yards per game, three and a half yards per carry, and then he got hurt. I'm not wishing that on JK Dublins or anything, but I do think that he's a guy who slows down as the season goes on. And if you combine that with like the natural trajectory of rookie running backs, I think it's kind of easy to get RJ Harvey right now. To be honest, I think people are sick of him.
- [24:41]
Danny Kelly
I was going to say this is nice because it's not going to cost you an arm and a leg to get him. I think the thing that is really key here and again, like obviously I've gone off on Sean Payton in the past based on his just sort of capricious attitude towards playing guys in different weeks or whatever. But he did say the other day that eventually he wants to go to a two man rotation at. At running back versus a three man. The big impediment right now for RJ Harvey is less Dobbins and more Tyler Bidet.
- [25:09]
Craig Robick
Well, and last week we saw. Is it Bidet?
- [25:12]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, apparently he's going by Bidet.
- [25:14]
Dan Heifetz
Well, it's because he doesn't want to be batty. But he's a baddie.
- [25:17]
Danny Kelly
Tyler baddie.
- [25:18]
Craig Robick
So. But he. I'm calling I like baby.
- [25:21]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, like he barely played like Warren Beatty.
- [25:24]
Craig Robick
Yes, he barely played last week, which was a good sign.
- [25:27]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [25:27]
Danny Kelly
And so basically if you look at some of the numbers on the season, that's good that last week he was phased out a little bit. But like on the season he's getting 35% of the third down work, 24% of the long down and distance work, which means he's getting a lot of the passing down stuff that would be more valuable to Harvey. And I agree with Craig completely that Harvey looks good. Like he is a good player. This is. And this is where I was with LAD too. It's like betting on talent and betting on a normalization and evening out of usage. I think those are things that you want to buy a low on. And so I think he's a talented player. He's obviously highly drafted by them and he's looked good so far. It's not like he looks lost. So I Think those are all good, good factors.
- [26:07]
Dan Heifetz
I like that one a lot for Harvey. And to that point, I think people need running backs and it's hard to identify running backs that people will trade away because the reality is every year we get here and want to send receivers to running backs to people like. But I need the running back. Harvey's a good example of a guy that actually might, you know, he might be on valuable wire. And that's why I put him so high. Because if you're three, zero and you are two and one and you have the chance and you need a running back, I think it's doable. On that note, I have my. One of my favorite by lows right now is just the Bengals, but specifically Chase Brown the running back. And then also I think Jamar Chase and T. Higgins to a different degree. But I just think this is like an easy one. The Bengals just got rocked. Chase Brown was such a popular preseason sleeper. Joe Burrow, his injury hurts, obviously, but Chase Brown stats, he has 12, eight and seven points this season. He's the number 31 running back behind Quin. Sean Judkins, who like just signed with the bank with the Browns. He's behind Jacquard Crosby, Merritt, you know what I mean? It's pretty concerning.
- [27:00]
Danny Kelly
That's rough.
- [27:01]
Dan Heifetz
Also the thing, the blurb test. We talk about this all the time. It is like 10. No one makes a trade without clicking on the guy's Blurb. It is 10 times easier to trade for a guy whose blurb is negative than positive. Which sounds like a joke, but it's true. If the blurb is all like, he's psychology, baby. So dk, with that said, will you do me a favor? I put. I just sent it to you. Will you read. I'm sitting. Will you please read this blurb right now live on Yahoo for Chase Brown.
- [27:26]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, chase Brown rushed 10 times for three yards in the Bengals Week 3 loss, the Vikings adding four receptions for 17 yards. Here's the advice. All righty then. Brown at least wasn't one of four Bengals to turn the ball over, though he did fumble. His team just recovered it. Brown has been stupendously awful through three games thus far, taking the rock 47 times for 93 yards, less than 2 yards of carry.
- [27:47]
Craig Robick
I. I love how personally slanted these are. Like, clearly this person just like has a lot of. Chase Brown is just fucking pissed.
- [27:54]
Dan Heifetz
Stupendously awful. And I'm like, if you're just someone who like is just going about, you're Just like a random accountant in a fantasy league. And you're like, I don't follow this all day. You're like, how is Chase Brown doing? And you click that. You read that. Holy shit, I should trade him away. Stupendously awful, I will say, but to the point, the usage is phenomenal. He's on the field two thirds of the time, same amount of carries as Bijan Robinson this season. He's the Chase Brown's the gold to go rusher. The problem is the Bengals have sucked, but it's like, okay, like, and I will say it's been bad. Chase Brown, 47 carries this season, 93 yards. Next Gen Stats has him with negative 54 yards before contact. It's Chase Brown and Ashton Gente as the guys with the negative. But they're only two running backs with negative yards for contact. But I will say Kyle Borg, I don't know how to say his name. Kyle Borgoni had the station. Chase Brown's the only running back in the last 25 years to get 45 carries through three games and not get 95 rushing yards. Which is pretty crazy. But overall, week one was like Joe Burrow was there, but the played the Browns, which now we realize that's fine. Like, the Browns kept Derek Henry Brown's really good defense. Yeah, the Browns kept Josh Jacobs to 30 yards. Chase Brown did better than that actually. Then week two, all right, Burrow gets hurt in the middle of the game. And then week three, okay, the Vikings have one of the best defensive performances I've ever seen. The game is over. It's 34, 34 to 3 at halftime. 3. The Vikings defense is crazy with what they're doing. They're doing multiple fake plays before the snap now. They're not just doing one rotation. Vikings doing multiple rotations. It's hard. I think this is a great example of in the middle of November, you're not going to remember how bad the Bengals were in the first three weeks of the season. How many times this has happened. And I'm like, Chase Brown is a starting running back. But I think some people, if the trick is finding someone who actually does it might be like, oh, have a better option. Like someone who has a Quinn Shaw, Judkins or someone. But I think Chase Brown is a great and attainable running back, which is hard to find attainable running backs. The receivers, it's different. I don't think Jamar Chase is easy to trade for because there's emotions with the number one pick.
- [29:42]
Danny Kelly
Higgins might be.
- [29:43]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, I think Chase is like, there's just emotions when you take a player number one to solo.
- [29:47]
Craig Robick
Chase Brown's not famous. He's not a name. Nobody knows who he is. He's like a fifth round pick. I think this one's really smart. I like this one a lot.
- [29:54]
Danny Kelly
If you do have the Broncos, Lions and Packers coming up next, that's the thing.
- [29:58]
Dan Heifetz
So the Broncos is tough, but then the packers. But then later the schedule gets a lot easier. It's like Steelers, Jets, Bears. So overall and if you want a receiver, I would go with T. Higgins over Chase because it might be somewhat equal but you won't have to pay the same price. But yeah, I, I like Chase Brown a lot.
- [30:11]
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
- [30:13]
Dan Heifetz
Another receiver, I think available dk, you sent me in number four or depending how you count six, I guess. Fantasy by low this season you have Brian Thomas Jr. For the Jacks.
- [30:26]
Danny Kelly
This is as gross as it gets at this point. This is a leap of faith. And again this to me, these are all betting on talented players who have underperformed. But you still think they're good because I, I, I just basically won't go out get a player who I just think is bad, you know, because some players just underperform the volume they get. I think Brian Thomas is, is a good player who just things have not gone well for him thus far and I think it's going to get better. So he said three drops. The vibes are kind of bad, but the Jags did win this last game. The locker room vibes are pretty electric. It sounds like the team is kind of rallying a little bit here from a psychological point of view. And if you look at the underlying metrics for Brian Thomas, they're still pretty strong. So he leads the team in first read target rate. He's the clear cut number one. Next closest guy is Travis Hunter. So Brian Thomas Jr. Has a 23% target rate on first reads. Next closest is Travis Hunter at 16%. He has 21% target rate. That's pretty strong. Not great, but pretty strong. And he's averaging eight targets a game which is 19th most the same as Amon Ross St. Brown. So he's getting a lot of looks and the volume potential is there. He just has several drops, a couple of plays that just didn't work out. Trevor Lawrence has been inaccurate, but I think overall the points are going to come eventually when they get these things kind of ironed out and just regression to the, to the mean kind of hits because right now he's just dramatically underperforming. What he should be scoring. So, you know, again, betting on talent, betting on the environment, that he's going to continue to get a lot of looks in this offense. I. I'd be willing to go get him. I think people are probably freaking out about Brian Thomas right now.
- [32:05]
Craig Robick
Yeah, I think Brian Thomas and along with maybe Ashton Genty are the only two players that went in the first two rounds of drafts that I think you could actually probably convince somebody to trade you because they're that fed up. The online discourse, even about both those guys. And Brian Thomas is so bad of him ducking balls, the whole Trevor Lawrence hospital ball thing, him basically not putting in the effort, not wanting to catch these passes. The vibes are just so bad there. And I think people are truly very fed up with Brian Thomas. He also hasn't been around long enough, and he's not enough of a name for, I think there to be enough, you know, like, attachment, like high. Fitz was saying with Jamar Chase where that, like, baked in, oh, wait, this is still Jamar Chase. I'm not getting rid of him. That's not quite there yet with Brian Thomas. So I, I do think that it's. It is possible you're gonna have to give up a little bit to get him, but I do think you can get him, which is. Which is kind of unheard of for a top one or, you know, a top two round guy.
- [32:58]
Danny Kelly
Right.
- [33:00]
Craig Robick
I don't know if I believe in.
- [33:01]
Danny Kelly
It, especially because he's. He's probably. Because you took him so high, your team is probably 1 and 2 or 0 and 3 at this point.
- [33:08]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, I think a good. There's a good gut check because I think it's hard to just. Just to take one second. It's hard sometimes to be like, what do I give up in the trade? That's hard to answer because it depends on your team and their team. And it's like Tetris and it is the fit. And generally speaking, everyone wants running backs and no one wants receivers. I. I think a good example of where do you guys go from changing your mind and just being like, you know what? We have to adjust our priors. Like, here's how it ranked the rest of the season and we have to just, like, look at our eyes versus, well, three weeks ago, a good example. Brian Thomas was like, what, the 13th or 15th pick in the draft in fantasy, and Javante Williams for Dallas was like, outside the top 100. If you have Brian Thomas and I offered you Javante Williams straight up, what.
- [33:51]
Craig Robick
Would you Say no, you're not doing that. You, you need to offer somebody something that looks good. Like it needs to be a name. You need to, it needs to be.
- [33:59]
Dan Heifetz
No, no, no. But like, would you take it? Because I think there's a very easy argument for the Javante Williams person to say no, I won't even do that.
- [34:05]
Craig Robick
Oh, I'm saying I would rather have if I had Brian Thomas and summer it off and be Javante Williams. I wouldn't do it just because of the name brand swap. I'm not swapping Brian Thomas for Javante.
- [34:16]
Danny Kelly
It hurts to capitulate.
- [34:17]
Craig Robick
Yes. That is how trading works. You have to trade a name to somebody. Like, even if they're playing well, it doesn't matter. Like, I don't think you could trade Travis ETN for Brian Thomas because it's like, I don't want Travis ETN even though he's a top 10 running back right now. You're going to have to give up. Like, I don't know, I mean, maybe you swap Chase Brown for Brian Thomas. Maybe you'd have to like Chuba Hubbard. Would you trade Chuba Hubbard for Brian Thomas?
- [34:40]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, I, I, I'm out on Hubbard. Yeah, I, I, I, Auburn I'm concerned about in a serious way. I don't think he has a huge grip on that job as much as we. Rico Dowdle's playing a lot at the goal line and then if you're not the goal line back for the Panthers. I don't know if I want to. Yes.
- [34:53]
Craig Robick
The problem is for, for somebody as, as highly drafted as Brian Thomas, you will, you, you almost have to like combine a sell high with a buy low, which is doubly hard just like psychologically to, to be like, I'm going to get rid of Kyron Williams who's been playing pretty good for Brian Thomas, who's been playing pretty bad.
- [35:10]
Dan Heifetz
See, I think, I don't know if I would, I don't know if the running backs are more valuable. I think Javante is even honestly a fair offer. He's a six running back right now.
- [35:17]
Danny Kelly
What if someone sent you a quick.
- [35:19]
Craig Robick
Maybe either side wouldn't do that.
- [35:21]
Danny Kelly
What about Quentin Johnston for Brian Thomas?
- [35:23]
Dan Heifetz
Boom. That's a fucking great question, dk because.
- [35:26]
Danny Kelly
I feel like that is a realistic trade that someone's going to send because they're going to try and sell high on Quentin Johnson. He's never going to be higher than wide receiver four probably.
- [35:35]
Craig Robick
I think the fear of being duped and looking like an idiot is so high with stuff like that, you're not doing it.
- [35:40]
Dan Heifetz
That is what people think.
- [35:41]
Danny Kelly
I think that's true generally, but doesn't mean it doesn't happen because I think if you look at. If you just click on the little box next to Quentin Johnson's name and it has 20 something points and 20 something points, you're like, fu. I don't want that in my team, dude.
- [35:55]
Dan Heifetz
We. We had. I wasn't going to read this, but we had a fantasy court case come in that was. Someone was like, you guys always say, don't veto trades. And the only criteria really should just be, did two consenting adults make a fantasy trade that they think will help their team? And like, it's not really your place to decide the quality of it. And so he says, you know what? I looked at it. I called the guy. To Craig's advice. I called the guy and said, did you make this trade? And he was like, yeah, you know, I just feel like my backup tight end Tyler Warren's like, really good, kind of better than my starter and I really need a receiver. So, yeah, I just did that. So then he's like, all right. And I was. And then at the end he's like, the trade was Brock Bowers for Cedric Tillman. And I'm like, yeah, that's crazy. But like, that's America, man. But like, to your point, like, happens like Owen three, like, make some, like, don't lowball people. But like, that's why you start a dialogue. You communicate.
- [36:41]
Danny Kelly
Some people also just want to. Some people just want to shake up their team too.
- [36:45]
Dan Heifetz
Dude, that Bill Rotter this a column like 25 years ago. Oh, and three people just want to shake it up. They're like, fuck this team anyway. Like, I blow. I hate. There's. I hate these people.
- [36:53]
Craig Robick
Sometimes it's fun to just do like a change of scenery trade where it's like, hey, I'll give you Ashton Genty, you give me Brian Thomas and we'll just see if things get better.
- [37:01]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, yeah, I did, dude. I did that. One year. This is. No one cares about fantasy baseball, but one year. Gary Sanchez had like the worst start ever to a season for catcher. And then Luis Castillo had the worst year ever to start for a season for a pitcher in the same three months. And we just swapped them as a joke and they. It just like, yeah, anyway, like two.
- [37:18]
Danny Kelly
Bad players.
- [37:21]
Dan Heifetz
Worst hitter and worst pitcher in baseball. We like it. We can't cut them. Swap them anyway. All right, let's get this. It's true, though. Just try, but don't just send a trade without context. Text them.
- [37:30]
Danny Kelly
I think Craig, you said it, though, with, like, Brian Thomas. Like, it's like, oh, God. You kind of got to like, plug your nose and send that trade because it's. It's definitely scary.
- [37:37]
Dan Heifetz
Wait, while we're here, Travis Hunter, like, he also has to be the definition of. By love. We're talking about the bad vibes of Brian Thomas. Travis Hunter is like a national. Everyone's like, of course you can't play both ways. But the core DNA of, well, he's a rookie receiver. We always say rookie receivers. Wait, they don't make an impact immediately.
- [37:53]
Danny Kelly
We should have Justin Jefferson.
- [37:55]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, Hunter makes less of an impact because he's all doing defense. But on the world, if you're saying Brian Thomas going to get better, you also said his, like, he has a lot of the peripherals are same as Travis Hunter. Travis Hunter, I don't know if he's going to get better, but again, a lot of these are bets. You don't know for certain the future of any of these guys. However, Travis Hunter, if he was. If you just redrafted a whole new league right now, he would go outside the top 100 picks. Outside the top. Like, you can. Whoever has him is not playing him and doesn't need him and might not want him. Like, he's probably the cheapest player we're going to talk about. So, like, do you believe in that, though? You just think he sucks.
- [38:28]
Craig Robick
What's nice about Travis? You can get him for nothing.
- [38:30]
Dan Heifetz
I think very little.
- [38:32]
Craig Robick
He is probably the last player on your roster now. Like, I actually are in the ringer league and even. Even on bye weeks. Like, I'm not starting him, but I'm just holding on to him because I don't want to look like an idiot if he's awesome in 10 weeks.
- [38:41]
Dan Heifetz
All right, well, I'll send you a trade.
- [38:43]
Danny Kelly
Okay.
- [38:43]
Dan Heifetz
Go ahead. Okay.
- [38:45]
Craig Robick
I have dart, so we could. Let's talk.
- [38:49]
Danny Kelly
You're gonna. We should. I have scattered with Craig. We should, like, really play with ifits the next.
- [38:54]
Dan Heifetz
No, no, I. No, I, I. Craig and I actually have good faith. DK just wants to see me squirm.
- [38:59]
Danny Kelly
Yeah. I also really. I. I'm really happy that I have Scatter Boo.
- [39:04]
Dan Heifetz
You're welcome. Better than Genti. If I had Genti and I offered you straight up for Scatterboat, what would you do?
- [39:11]
Danny Kelly
I probably would. Dude, that's tough. I probably take that, though.
- [39:13]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, you should.
- [39:14]
Danny Kelly
I think I would certainly take it in real life, you psycho.
- [39:18]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, I'm the other way. I'm like, I'd rather scatter boo on my team, but I think for fantasy, just, you know, flip scatter boo for the genti. Just get the hell of it. But scatter.
- [39:24]
Craig Robick
Gadaboo's got juice. There's something about him. Yeah, he's kind of a gamer. You know what I mean?
- [39:29]
Dan Heifetz
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Craig Robick
Oh, man, that's a good question. I have no opinions on that, but yeah, let's see.
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Danny Kelly
I got to sit in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.
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Dan Heifetz
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Danny Kelly
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Dan Heifetz
Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.
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Danny Kelly
That's how good leads the way.
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Dan Heifetz
All right, well, Craig, who is skeptical about Ash and Genti, is the bilo you sent in Breeze Hall. Jets running back. Breeze hall, you submitted as a bylaw.
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Craig Robick
I know. I hate myself for doing this. I wanted to, like, give it to DK because I don't want to be attached to this.
- [41:49]
Dan Heifetz
You wanted to launder the. The fantasy advice.
- [41:52]
Danny Kelly
I did launder your take through.
- [41:55]
Craig Robick
I did.
- [41:55]
Danny Kelly
That's good.
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Dan Heifetz
So that's good. We should do laundry. Laundering takes three children.
- [41:58]
Craig Robick
Take laundering.
- [41:59]
Danny Kelly
Oh, my God. We're onto something here.
- [42:01]
Craig Robick
It's really funny. DK is like the butcher that I'm, like, using as a front to sell drug.
- [42:06]
Dan Heifetz
Laundry day.
- [42:06]
Craig Robick
Yeah, yeah, yeah. My only thinking is, is. Is based off what we saw from the jets week one, I think we saw that the offensive line in the running game can work and can look really good. They ran for, like, 250 yards that week. And also, Breeze hall looked like a different player. I. I'll be the first to tell you that, because last year, he. He was horrible, and this year, he looked like a completely different player. He looked like the guy that I thought I was drafting last year. And so if you go through the rest of the season, it was. They got blown out in Week 2 by the Bills, who are maybe the best team in the league. And then week three, they didn't have Justin Fields, and that game was still kind of close, although they didn't run the ball well, but they didn't have Fields because he had a concussion. So as much as it pains me to say, I think this running game is good. Breeze hall looks good. And if you look at their next five games, they play the Dolphins, the Cowboys, the Broncos, the Panthers, and the Bengals, I mean, they played four of the worst defenses out of their next five games, so. And then Breeze hall has not really moved the needle for anybody in over a year because of what he did last year. So I don't think there's much attack attachment to Breeze hall at all. Do you guys feel that way?
- [43:13]
Danny Kelly
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely agree with that. I think he.
- [43:16]
Craig Robick
He, He.
- [43:17]
Danny Kelly
His name value is diminished so much, and especially because of Every. What everyone said during the preseason about him. Like everyone's talking about Braylon Allen is going to be basically the team starter and he's like one of the best sleepers. So I don't think his name value is what it used to be. And so people who are again, people who are kind of struggling out the gate right now are going to be looking to shake it up. And Breece does not have a stronghold, I don't think in anyone's team unless you're a Jets fan.
- [43:44]
Dan Heifetz
I guess trading for a running back is always like, who are they going to play? And so would you. Sometimes you have to toss in a running back that you've found. Like would you try to flip Scoo and a receiver for Bree Hall? And you're basically betting that Bree hall is gonna be a lot better than Scatter Boo or like a chic Cory Crosby merit where you gotta add two people to get Bree.
- [44:03]
Craig Robick
Yeah. You need to have somebody with like temporary juice that is. That is a little bit hot right now.
- [44:09]
Danny Kelly
I mean, yeah, the Jakori is an interesting one. Like I bet you people could send out a Jakori plus some. Some receiver for Bree and that would be taken.
- [44:18]
Craig Robick
Yeah.
- [44:18]
Danny Kelly
Would you do that?
- [44:20]
Craig Robick
The worry about Scatterboo is with Tyrone Tracy out for a little bit, Scatterboo is gonna get a lot of run.
- [44:24]
Dan Heifetz
It's kind of why I brought him up.
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Danny Kelly
I'm like, I think you could probably get more for Scatterboo at this point.
- [44:28]
Craig Robick
Honestly.
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Dan Heifetz
What do you think is a better backfield? Lamar with a doing read option with Derek Henry or dart doing read option with Kim Scatter. But what do you think? Is it better?
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Danny Kelly
It's a good question.
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Craig Robick
Yeah, there's just something about Dart and Scatter Boo. I don't know what it is, but.
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Dan Heifetz
Well, no.
- [44:43]
Danny Kelly
Well, yeah, it's maybe quite put my.
- [44:45]
Dan Heifetz
Finger on but at the one yard line, who would you. One yard line, they get one play. Who would you take?
- [44:49]
Craig Robick
Not even close. Scatter. Scaboo will find a way. You know what I mean?
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Danny Kelly
The best team, the. The greatest team ever that we don't trust even a little. The Ravens.
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Dan Heifetz
Before we move on though, I do just want to one more plug for Genty which is. I don't even know if I believe that Genti in the Raiders offense to get better. But I just think it's rare to have such a talented hype player before just be so immediately besmirched that was taken so high. And I will just say the Raiders first three Games played the Patriots D, which I think is underrated. And I'm like, it's this first career game. I don't really care. Second game was against the Chargers. Chargers kind of seem like they're kicking ass. And then the third game was all right. It was a little concerning. But Washington's run D is probably better than you think. And I'm like, I don't know. Is it really is the ra basically. I just think Genti is worth exploring, that's all. Like, I think if someone had taken and is really like, oh, I'm. I don't. Like, I'm upset I took him. I didn't want to take him by inertia. Like, you know, I think.
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Craig Robick
Who do you think you could trade for Ashton Jetty?
- [45:48]
Dan Heifetz
I don't know. That's the thing. I think you need someone who has. You almost need to, like, you need. Sometimes you need to just explore and see if they actually blame him directly and like, that person.
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Danny Kelly
Would you trade Kenneth Walker right now for Genty?
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Dan Heifetz
No, I don't. I don't trade.
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Danny Kelly
Would you trade Travis ETN for Genty? I'm just throwing out running backs.
- [46:10]
Dan Heifetz
Yes, I would.
- [46:10]
Danny Kelly
But definitely throw Dobbins. Throw us. Throw a Dobbins plus.
- [46:18]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [46:18]
Craig Robick
Oh, absolutely. I would get rid of Dobbins for Genti Javante Williams.
- [46:21]
Dan Heifetz
I think I'm gonna keep bringing up Javante.
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Danny Kelly
That's an interesting one. God, it's very hard. It's very hard. Yeah.
- [46:33]
Dan Heifetz
I think it's one of them where it's like both people the. The ultimate bill question who says no? And I'm like, if you're Genti, you're like, no, I could have added him off waivers maybe. And then if you have Javant, I.
- [46:42]
Craig Robick
Kind of think that's a trade where both sides say no.
- [46:44]
Dan Heifetz
I know. Well, that's why I bring it up. It's hard. It's hard to make traits. That's why I try to put thought in steps.
- [46:49]
Craig Robick
Tough. He has too much. It's too. I honestly think it's still a little early for jt.
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Dan Heifetz
This is why the most important advice I think we give is to work with the own three and one and two teams because it's hard to make fantasy football trades. It takes time. And the people who are 3 and 0, frankly, aren't going to put in the effort and time to change their team when it's going well. The people who are 0 and 3 are just more open to it and just text them and find someone who actually wants to make A trade and start with, like, the players on your team they're interested in. Speaking of which, next one I have here, actually. Craig, you sent Calvin Ridley in for the Titans, who was one of your boys over the off season.
- [47:21]
Craig Robick
I know. I'm just doubling down on this take.
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Danny Kelly
I was just saying this is kind of bold considering how he's looked.
- [47:27]
Craig Robick
Yeah, he's been really bad. 4.7 points, 3 points. But look, he did this last year. He was terrible for the first month of the season. Last year he was 83rd in yards per game, and then he finished the year 17th in yards per game.
- [47:37]
Dan Heifetz
And.
- [47:38]
Craig Robick
And it's basically come down to drops. He's just dropped a lot of passes this year, and I think he's in his own head. But I'm buying the dip on Cam Ward and the Titans in general having a really hard schedule. And Calvin Ridley played Pat Sartan in Week 1. They played a good Rams defense in Week 2, and then they played the Colts in Week 3, whose defense has been. Has been way better than people expected this year. So they're playing the Texans next week. Derek Stingley's banged up. Don't know if he's going to play. And then it's the Cardinals, it's the Raiders, it's the Patriots secondary. Calvin Ridley is still the bet number one in routes, targets and snaps. And even though I love Elik IO Manor, I still think Calvin really is good. Like, I don't think he's washed physically. He's literally just dropping passes. And so I think everybody's completely fed up. You've probably started him for three straight weeks. He's not a sexy player. He hasn't been great in a while.
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Danny Kelly
He's older.
- [48:26]
Craig Robick
He's older. Like, I think he's really easy to get. And this is kind of the same exact thing that happened last year. And I'm like, kim, word's probably going to be better the next 10 games than he was the last three games. So I'm just betting on all of that.
- [48:39]
Danny Kelly
Would you trade if you had DJ Moore, would you go get Calvin Ridley? I'm just throwing out a few names here.
- [48:48]
Craig Robick
DJ Moore hasn't been great outside that touchdown.
- [48:52]
Danny Kelly
What about Waddle, your favorite player?
- [48:54]
Craig Robick
I would rather have Calvin Ridley.
- [48:58]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [49:01]
Craig Robick
But, like, I just think if you want to switch positions, it's right. It's like everybody want. It's easy to get rid of a wide receiver if you're offering a running back. Like, don't you think you could get Calvin Ridley if you offered, like, Tony Pollard.
- [49:16]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, but I would, I would never do that.
- [49:17]
Danny Kelly
I would not.
- [49:18]
Dan Heifetz
Never. I would never flip Pollard for Ridley.
- [49:20]
Danny Kelly
Right. Swift is a good one. I think Swift is a good.
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Dan Heifetz
Why would you flip Swift for Pollard for Ridley? Because that implies you, like. I feel like you have three receivers better than Ridley right now. Do you have three running backs?
- [49:30]
Craig Robick
I'm saying if you need a receiver and you have running backs, if DeAndre stuff is like your third or fourth running back, which I feel like is.
- [49:35]
Dan Heifetz
Pretty standard, I would offer.
- [49:37]
Danny Kelly
Like you'd want.
- [49:39]
Dan Heifetz
I would try to get Brian Thomas if I had Tony Pollard or If I had DeAndre Swift.
- [49:43]
Craig Robick
No one's doing that. That's insane. No one's, no one's accepting Tony Pollard for Brian Thomas. Do you think you could trade Basil Tudin for Calvin Ridley?
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah, but I would rather. But I think Tootin's the kind of guy you want to hold on to.
- [49:55]
Craig Robick
You'd rather have Tootin than Ridley?
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Danny Kelly
Wow. I think, I think to Craig's point, though, the point he's making and I think the point we're establishing here.
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Craig Robick
This is crazy how low Ridley's value. Calvin Ridley.
- [50:06]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [50:06]
Danny Kelly
Ridley's value is falling.
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Craig Robick
If you wouldn't do Tootin, would you. I mean, God, would you do Braylon Allen?
- [50:14]
Dan Heifetz
Yes, but I was scraping the bottom. But that's what I was. I think what I'm trying to say every, yeah. Every year, though, we get to this. Bill has a friend who did this as a joke, but I actually think the friend is right. The friend was like, if I just take nine running backs and wait, I can just trade for all these receivers. And I do think the most underrated. I think, I think a huge hole in fantasy is if you're in a league where you can trade. I don't. Do you guys feel this way, too? Every single season? I've never felt otherwise. Three weeks in, everyone need running backs. Everyone's like, hey, I gotta. I got this great receiver. Do you want to. Will you give me a running back for him? I, I, I can't remember the last time someone hit me up trying to send me a running back that was playing well. I, I literally can't even remember the last time that happened.
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Craig Robick
No, I know. I, I just. Sometimes you have to trade opposite positions in order for people to do it. Because if you go position for, if you offer wide receiver for wide receiver swap, it's kind of, it's, it's apples to. Apples to. Where it's a direct comparison, where it's where you are giving up a receiver and gaining one that. That has been worse than the one you gave away. It's like, why the fuck would I do that?
- [51:20]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, you have to. You do have to try to look at your roster and see what you have and just see if there's a matching. It's like the snail with the lefty swirl. You know, you find someone with the swirl in your direction so you can kind of align for the magic to happen. Although, speaking of which, I think this guy's very attainable. This next buy low here, Matthew golden, the receiver for the packers, since Craig's backing, the guy that he plugged all season and then sucks. I'm also going to talk about Matthew golden, who frankly, tons of people listening to this, probably of Matthew golden, because I wouldn't shut up about him all year. And in exchange, Matthew golden sucked. He's had two points, then one point, then eight points. And I feel like they were big three sleepers at receiver entering the season. It was basically a mecca. Buka and Ricky Parasol and Matthew golden, and right now, Golden's like the Squidward meme, looking out at like a. Booka and Ricky Parasol are incredible. And golden has sucked, however, he's literally, you know, he's 78th among receivers. He's behind Jaylen Naylor, Travis Hunter.
- [52:12]
Danny Kelly
That's tough. That's tough.
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Dan Heifetz
It's not ideal.
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Danny Kelly
I will say, though, we've tried to slam it into people's heads that you have to wait a little bit for these rookie receivers. Not always. Obviously, a booker looks great immediately. Sometimes that does happen.
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Craig Robick
Looks great.
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Danny Kelly
Ted looks great.
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Dan Heifetz
But even McMillan, he hasn't performed great. He looks great when you watch McMillan.
- [52:31]
Danny Kelly
But Ted was also much higher in the 80.
- [52:32]
Craig Robick
Doesn't pass the blurb test. Like, everything about Ted is like, ted's awesome. I think it's going to be hard for you to get rid of.
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Dan Heifetz
That's the thing, I think, if you could. I completely agree. I left McMillan off this because I'm like, I don't think he's a buyer. I think he's should go get McMillan if you can. But the person who has, you have to pay up probably just as excited. The golden, though, is basically. I think he's super attainable. Basically, the packers are playing way more three receiver sets like, they're playing triple. And Golden's just on the field way more already in like, week three than week two. And frankly, he should have had, like, two different touchdowns on Thursday in football. And Jordan Love missed him. He almost had, like, a 98 yard touchdown against the Browns last week. And I just think Matthew golden, like I just. They played the Browns defense, but now they're playing Dallas. And I kind of think if you can try and get Matthew golden, maybe before this Dallas game, maybe he'll even suck against them. But overall he's playing so much more. He's on so much. He's already participating so much more in this offense. Jaden Reed's out till November. I still believe everything about Golden. When you watch him, you're like, he's getting open. I'm still a big fan and I also think whoever took him is kind of thinking it's probably crossed their mind to just cut him.
- [53:32]
Danny Kelly
Right. I was going to say he's like probably on a lot of roster bubbles right now. So just throw somebody out for him and you possibly get him. And yeah, like you said, you might want to just have him sit for a week or two and kind of wait for the.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah, wait for him to do something.
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Danny Kelly
But I do agree with this generally. Obviously the worry for him was always that he's on the packers and that LaFleur loves to rotate receivers and that's happened. But like you said, after Jaden Reed got hurt, his numbers, his snap totals have gone up. Like he's working his way into the offense.
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Dan Heifetz
He's like the starting outside receiver.
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Danny Kelly
It's like, yeah, he's going to end up being like opposite and probably playing north of 80% of snaps. And at that point you can start starting him and feel good about it.
- [54:16]
Dan Heifetz
I like, yeah, I like golden lot. Craig's like, fuck that guy.
- [54:20]
Craig Robick
No, no, with most. I mean, honestly, it's just like at this point of the season it's usually just try to go get rookies who have been disappointing.
- [54:27]
Danny Kelly
Speaking of, I've got one for you. Craig said this might be too obvious and that is true. It might be too obvious. But if you didn't watch the Patriots play last week and you didn't see them fumble five times, including two from Ramondre Stevenson and one from Antonio Gibson, if you didn't notice that Trayvon Henderson might be a guy that you go look for in a trade offer, he's been really disappointing, especially relative to the preseason hype. You know, he's not playing very many snaps right now. It's like 30%. He's rotating. There's a three man rotation which is always kind of just brutal in the fantasy world. With Ramandre Stevenson, who had a big game in week two and then week three, things kind of fell apart. So after Ramondre and Antonio Gibson fumbled in this last game, this is per Dwayne McFarlane. Henderson played 85% of the snaps, 90% of the rush attempts, ran a bunch of routes. Though he had elite usage after those two guys fumbled. That's probably not going to stick like in a full game. However, I don't, I won't be surprised if his usage starts to go up pretty dramatically and they might even go to like a two man rotation. Basically they're still going to use Ramandre, but the coaches just can't trust this guy. Also remember in College, Henderson had zero fumbles on 667 touches. In college he hasn't been great. Like, I think he's flashed a lot of explosiveness in the open field and things like that. But like one of the theories and thesis is for grabbing him was that he's really good in pass pro and he's already like kind of sucked in pass pro. So that's been kind of frustrating. But I do think eventually, and this was always the going to be the case, he's going to work his way in more and more. So now is the time to grab him before his usage starts ticking up a lot and then people really want to hang on to him, if that makes sense. So you know, maybe, maybe the person in your league that has him didn't realize what happened in this last game. So go offer something.
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Dan Heifetz
Here's, here's my thought on that. Dk, I think try to trade for Henderson this week. I think realistically the person's going to be like, oh, the other two running backs both fumbled like three times. I'm going to keep them. I actually don't think Mike Vrabel is going to change the rotation this week. I think he's going to keep it the same. Then that person's gonna be like, oh shit, maybe Henderson just won't play and then they'll, and then they'll think about.
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Craig Robick
The offer trade next week. If, if Trayvon is not great again for fantasy next week, then that's the, the week to bounce.
- [56:38]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, yeah, but I agree he was.
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Danny Kelly
He got, he got pushed up a lot of draft boards. I think he was like fourth, fifth rounder or third rounder sometimes. And he's definitely been disappointing so far. So there's probably owners out there that are like, God, this is just not, not working.
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Craig Robick
It's a great song, incredible song.
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Dan Heifetz
I want to just give a few more names here. We don't have to do the whole two minutes for it. But basically I don't even know if I necessarily believe in this one. I just want to shout out Chris Olave who if you just look at fantasy points under expectation is like number one. Which means that if you look at his targets and usage in the offense versus actual points delivered, he is the biggest gap. Which sounds bad, but you basically expect the biggest rubber band of Chris Olavi has been the guy you expect the most points. But the Saints suck. And it's a little scary to be like oh he. The joke is people he kind of turned Chris Olavi into wand Robinson or maybe I should say Travis Hunter where Chris Olavi is just catching all these passes around the line of scrimmage now on a bad team at garbage time, it's a little scary to recommend him, but I do think if you can close your eyes and take this guy on a terrible team with a concussion history that I don't like to see get tackled in a full PPR league. Yeah, he should bounce back. So if you can stomach that. Yeah, but I don't. I actually know if I want to go full throated there. But I do think if you, if you can handle, if you just kind of treat fantasy football like a spreadsheet then like and you kind of don't like aren't going to watch the Saints then like yeah, you could go for a lava the other one, Rashee Rice is just like three weeks in. The worst thing ever is a guy suspended six weeks and then someone comes in six weeks later. It's like, will you trade me him? It's like, fuck you. I waited this whole time. If the person who's Rashee Rice now there's still three weeks left and they're like, oh and three, they're like, okay, this isn't going to work. I can't wait this long. That's someone where you can facilitate it where if you have a good record, like you want to add a big piece. I think Rasheed Rice is a really smart person to target because he could be a game changing player.
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Danny Kelly
What do you think about buying low on on Xavier Worthy right now? I, I too worried about the shoulder.
- [58:37]
Dan Heifetz
I don't want a guy with a shoulder injury. I mean what happens if he, I mean what if he gets tackled again and lands on, I don't know, a shoulder?
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Danny Kelly
If he gets tackled, he can only.
- [58:43]
Dan Heifetz
Get what he gets tackled, he can only get land on the other shoulder.
- [58:48]
Danny Kelly
Good point.
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Dan Heifetz
Sorry. He made it like three entire plays without hurting his healthy shoulder. I don't know, maybe you're right, maybe I should. But I'm just like, I have no interest in a guy that could literally get tackled and hurt his shoulder at any point. Any other players you wanted to shout out that are imperfect for this, like Jaylen Warren's. The Steelers is a good example of a guy where I'm like, if you're able to acquire Jaylen Warren, I would do it because I kind of think he's like going to be the discount version of Chase Brown this year.
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Danny Kelly
I feel like it's too late.
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Dan Heifetz
But that's the, that's the thing. It's like it's not a buy low. He's playing.
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Craig Robick
Warren's been good. He's got double digit points every week.
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Dan Heifetz
Well that's what I'm saying. He's not a buy low. He's like a buy highish where it's like you're saying actually not. Because the argument for Jalen Warren is not only is he out not outperforming, he's underperforming. And so you're like pleasantly surprised with what he's been doing. There's an argument that Jaylen Warren is actually going to be better than he's been going forward because he just hasn't had a rushing touchdown. But Jalen Warren's probably going to this. These might be some of the worst games he's had because Rogers just wants them on the field.
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Craig Robick
Like you said, I've. It's like it's harder to get rid of running backs if you have Jalen Warren. I don't, I don't know if they're willing to trade him.
- [59:47]
Dan Heifetz
That's the thing. It's why I kept him until now.
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Craig Robick
It's hard to the other buy low team my A buy medium. It's kind of just the Falcons like Kyle Pitts, Mooney and Drake London have all been. Pitts has I guess been fine but London's been super underwhelming. Mooney kind of is working his way back from an injury hit 11 targets last week. But like if you have any faith that the offense is going to kind of get it together and that Pennix is going to go back to even just being the like gunslinger Jameis Winston type that produces fantasy points. People are pretty fed up I would say with Drake London he's, he hasn't been terrible. He's been okay.
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Dan Heifetz
I think that's a good call. So I mean they just fired their receivers coach, I kill you or they move Zach Robinson who's going to go. He's going to call plays from the booth. No, go from the booth to the sideline now. Which kind of just feels like, is.
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Danny Kelly
That what it is Mov? Or is he going up to the booth?
- [60:35]
Craig Robick
No, they're changing sideline.
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Dan Heifetz
They're changing to change. Like when a receivers coach gets fired and they come out of the booth, it's kind of like this is going really poorly and we think we're going.
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Craig Robick
To get rearranging the furniture in your house.
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Dan Heifetz
Yes, exactly. It's the same for the fun way change. I don't think it's supposed to. Yeah. So. But. But if the feng shui is different, then to your point, I do think whoever is London, it's kind of like, oh, my God. So I think that's a good one worth looking into. Okay. Any other buy low stuff, text people and just ask them what they want and then see if it aligns with that. It's trading simple. People think it's complicated. Ask people what they want. Ringer Fantasy Football League update. Sal and I are 3. 0. Bill and Van are 03, and everyone else is just 2 and 1 or 1 and 2. But BK, we play each other in the ring of fantasy.
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Danny Kelly
If it's like bury the lead there, then I'm in third place.
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Craig Robick
So that's no big deal. That is the lead of the story. That DK's in third place.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah.
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Dan Heifetz
People are wondering, you want to cut that? We'll do it again.
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Danny Kelly
Who's in third place?
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Dan Heifetz
No DK. I'll do another take. Ringer fantasy league update. DK's in third place.
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Danny Kelly
Wow. Thank you. Thank you.
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Craig Robick
My gosh. That's crazy.
- [61:39]
Danny Kelly
It's incredible. I feel good. Feel good about the direction of my team.
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Craig Robick
I play Bill, who's in last place. I can't lose to him. I need to keep the Bill troll going.
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Danny Kelly
Who's he going to start at quarterback this week?
- [61:51]
Craig Robick
You never know. Probably I got to decide if I want to start Jackson Dart over Brock Purdy. So that'll be fun. If Dart becomes a real guy for me this year, I will be changing my name to Dart or Shart.
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Dan Heifetz
So just.
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Craig Robick
Just kind of keep that in mind. Check in.
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Danny Kelly
Okay.
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Craig Robick
Because Bangkok Craig, is 1 and 2.
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Danny Kelly
I feel like you can't change Bangkok.
- [62:11]
Craig Robick
I know.
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Dan Heifetz
Explain why your name's Bangkok Craig.
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Craig Robick
In this league, the Amer, we did the American gangster rewatchables. And I was talking to Van, Chris, and Bill about how much I love the scenes in Bangkok and how I wanted to go there. And then there was also this other Part about how if, if I were going to shoot somebody, I would never shoot him in the head. I would shoot him in the heart. Because I want them to see me as they die.
- [62:30]
Danny Kelly
Jesus.
- [62:31]
Craig Robick
And they were just like, jesus, Bangkok, Craig. And so now that's kind of why. That's the energy I'm bringing.
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Dan Heifetz
That's what you have to do this week. Shoot Bill in the heart this week to put him at.04 and then just let him. Yeah.
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Craig Robick
I wanted to make icon with me, eye contact with me as Brock, as Jackson Darth buries him.
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Dan Heifetz
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Danny Kelly
Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.
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Dan Heifetz
I don't really want to be handcuffed.
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Craig Robick
The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Touched.
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Dan Heifetz
All right, Fantasy court. We got a fantasy court case here from Daniel Danny Debone. D.
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Craig Robick
That was me. That was Jack Nicholson from the Shining. D.
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Dan Heifetz
D Right. My league of 10 plus years, we've always had this running bit that if a team ever had exactly 69 points, they would just automatically win.
- [64:39]
Danny Kelly
I really like best your rules. Those are the best.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah. Not 69 and a half, not 69.2. 69.0.
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Danny Kelly
9.0. Oh, wow.
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Dan Heifetz
Now, we never wrote this down because how on earth would you add that to your ESPN scoring settings? But it's been talked about for years and this had never happened until now. Yes, one team finally ended up with exactly 69 points, no empty roster spots, no last minute switch shenanigans, no BS shady moves. A good clean old fashioned 69. And afterwards, good, you know, family fun. And afterwards began celebrating that their terrible horrific team actually ended up winning with the first 69W. And our league was immediately split with half the league saying that this is just a joke and not supposed to.
- [65:26]
Danny Kelly
Be taken seriously joke about something like this.
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Dan Heifetz
And the other half saying it's absolutely a win.
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Craig Robick
This is tricky. Yeah, I, I, I would need to see the receipts of how this was discussed.
- [65:42]
Danny Kelly
Yeah. When was the first time you even talked about this?
- [65:44]
Dan Heifetz
So well over. So I'm glad you asked. Over the years, teams have definitely gotten close before it ended up with 69 and a half or something else close. And every time people comment that that would have saved their week. So it's been discussed a lot over the years. It's not some obscure thing never spoken of. But also we don't have a rule written out addendum for it either. Curiously, you guys handle these types of unwritten rules.
- [66:05]
Craig Robick
My, my general thought here is that this should count as a win. But again, I need to see the receipts a little bit. Like if the commissioner ever even said one time, okay, we're doing this and it got like four thumbs ups. Like I would love to see that. But if the whole gang was has been talking about this every year when people get close, like I kind of think this is a win for Mr. 69 DK.
- [66:27]
Dan Heifetz
What do you think?
- [66:28]
Danny Kelly
I agree. I agree. I also just because I like leagues that implement these types of things. It's fun, it makes things, shakes things up. Even if your team is doing poorly. Obviously. Like in this case. This reminds me of somebody tagged us and this is like kind of going around Twitter right now. There's a Benson Boone rule where if a player does a backflip at any point in the game, I don't know what the math was. It was 5 million.
- [66:56]
Dan Heifetz
It was divided by Benson Boone streams on his number one song by 5 million and you lose that many points or something.
- [67:02]
Danny Kelly
It was like around 50. Like you lose 50 points if your player does it.
- [67:07]
Craig Robick
Because I think Tyree Kill did a backflip.
- [67:09]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah. So he lost his Craig. Explain Benson Boone to people who I, I still vaguely know who Benson Boom is.
- [67:13]
Craig Robick
He's like if, he's like if Imagine Dragons and the Lumineers combined into one human being in 2025 and then only.
- [67:21]
Dan Heifetz
Just did flips on.
- [67:22]
Danny Kelly
And his thing is he does, he.
- [67:23]
Craig Robick
Does, he does little flips. He's like a. He's like a little gymnast, and he jumps off pianos and things on stage, and it's very whimsical. And he has a mustache and he wears a leotard. His name's Benson Boone.
- [67:34]
Dan Heifetz
Benson Boone rules pretty good. He's a Booner.
- [67:38]
Craig Robick
He's a Booner.
- [67:38]
Danny Kelly
It feels so, like, specifically for this league, it feels like people were aware of the rule and talking about the rule, and there was talk that, like, oh, if that. That would have saved my week or whatever. If there was that kind of talk happening, it what Instead of. It was like, haha, one time, 69 wins. Like, that's a big difference.
- [67:57]
Dan Heifetz
If you. Look, usually I'm kind of like, the commissioner has a responsibility, blah, blah. But let's be honest. In 30 years from now, we're on your deathbed. If you, like, give this guy the fucking win for the 69 on the dot, you're gonna be like, on your deathbed. Like, I really regret that my fantasy football league had the 60 like that. Like, just give them the thing.
- [68:14]
Craig Robick
It's funny, I know. On your deathbed, you're like, Daddy.
- [68:19]
Dan Heifetz
69, just do it.
- [68:22]
Craig Robick
Yeah, this is the win.
- [68:25]
Dan Heifetz
So much stakes to every week. Like now, it's basically. You want to kill the vibes of your league or do you want to just be like now every week? It's a big deal.
- [68:31]
Danny Kelly
Also, it's early. It.
- [68:32]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah.
- [68:34]
Craig Robick
Because to be honest, like, the other guy still gets the points. Like, let's say, wait, 69 gets the win. If the guy who loses gets. Has 140 points, like, he still gets.
- [68:41]
Dan Heifetz
I actually have a good Compromise. Compromise. Okay, for this first time, they both get a win. This. This guy who beat him gets a win. Because it was unclear, but the guy who got the 69 gets a win. And going forward, it just flips the result.
- [68:57]
Craig Robick
That's. That's very kind of you, but him, the guy? I kind of think so.
- [69:01]
Dan Heifetz
All right, cool. All right, dk, you're the deciding vote. Then it's up to you.
- [69:04]
Danny Kelly
I agree with Craig. I agree with Craig.
- [69:05]
Dan Heifetz
All right, don't.
- [69:06]
Danny Kelly
Don't go halfway, okay? No, you can't go halfway on a 69.
- [69:11]
Dan Heifetz
That. Put that on a quote card. Putting that on Instagram.
- [69:14]
Craig Robick
You Never go half 69.
- [69:19]
Dan Heifetz
All right, let's get to some emails.
- [69:22]
Danny Kelly
Emails.
- [69:24]
Dan Heifetz
I want to start with just a crazy athlete nickname that we asked for those and someone. Someone sent in that. Corey mcgetty in the NBA. Corey mcgetty's nickname Was bad porn.
- [69:37]
Danny Kelly
Okay. Why?
- [69:39]
Dan Heifetz
A lot of penetration and scoring, but are you really enjoying what you're watching?
- [69:43]
Craig Robick
Oh, my God, dude. Corey McGetty, one of the most ripped NBA players of all time.
- [69:49]
Dan Heifetz
Bad porn. I I hard that. That has to be the.
- [69:53]
Craig Robick
He could get to the hole.
- [69:55]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [69:55]
Danny Kelly
Oh. Oh, my Lord, you're right, Craig. Look at those arms.
- [70:00]
Craig Robick
Yeah. Massive. Well, that was good.
- [70:03]
Dan Heifetz
Wow.
- [70:04]
Danny Kelly
Who emailed that?
- [70:05]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, yeah, sorry. Oh, no, I copy and pasted. I'm sorry. You know who you are.
- [70:08]
Craig Robick
Whoever wrote bad, that's the Corey McGetti guy.
- [70:10]
Danny Kelly
Thank you, incredible or gal.
- [70:12]
Craig Robick
Thank you.
- [70:13]
Dan Heifetz
The. Okay, wait, another one.
- [70:16]
Danny Kelly
This one's from Chris Seabone.
- [70:19]
Craig Robick
Christopher welcome.
- [70:22]
Danny Kelly
Or K. Bone. Maybe now it's a C. Okay, C Bone.
- [70:26]
Dan Heifetz
Chris Schwartz. When I was in high school, we had this incredible football player named Jesse whose family moved to our school district for his senior year. He joined the football team and was immediately the best player. He ran track.
- [70:36]
Danny Kelly
Love when that happens, he says.
- [70:37]
Dan Heifetz
I believe he was running back, defensive back, kicker, also ran track. I was on the track team. I was on the track team because I threw discus for the high school. And one day we're doing discus practice, and in the middle of the way of the season, Jesse just walks by the discus people and he just looks at the discus and picks it up for the first time ever. And just completely using totally wrong, improper technique, throws it further than anyone on the team had ever thrown the discus.
- [71:02]
Craig Robick
Just raw athleticism. Who was this, like, Jesse Palmer? Jesse James, like, who was Jesse Owens?
- [71:08]
Dan Heifetz
So coach saw this. Puts, puts, puts Jesse in the discus for the next meet. And he goes to the next meet and he wins the that. He comes in first place at the Knicks beat. Jesse, keep him throwing discus on the season, and Jesse goes to states, finishes top five in the state for discus.
- [71:28]
Craig Robick
All right, this is confirmed six weeks later.
- [71:30]
Dan Heifetz
All that. This is high school. All that is to say he finished.
- [71:33]
Craig Robick
Top five in the state.
- [71:35]
Danny Kelly
This is high school.
- [71:36]
Dan Heifetz
So Chris writes all that's to say LeBron James would have to dominate throwing the javelin.
- [71:40]
Craig Robick
He was among the best five discus throwers in this. Whatever state he lived in without in New Hampshire once. Still.
- [71:49]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, I think I stayed out here. I can make it rain. I'll put it wherever you want. There's a huge fucking difference between state championships in high school and the Olympics.
- [71:57]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, but also, this guy probably didn't even play D1 anything like. That's the.
- [72:01]
Danny Kelly
This is stupid. Come on. Oh, this doesn't confirm jack shit.
- [72:06]
Dan Heifetz
I don't know.
- [72:06]
Craig Robick
He was. He was among the top 250 discus throwers in the country without practicing immediately.
- [72:13]
Dan Heifetz
That's so funny. That's so.
- [72:15]
Danny Kelly
This is like, how many. How many good high school players go on to be in the NBA? Full stop.
- [72:20]
Craig Robick
Okay. Well, one of them is LeBron. This guy we're talking about LeBron James, who is the best basketball player maybe ever, let's be honest.
- [72:29]
Danny Kelly
Oh, my God. I love these arguments where you can't. There's, like, no way to actually have an answer.
- [72:34]
Craig Robick
Yeah. It's why analytics ruined a lot of sports arguments, because everything can be quantified now, which is awful stuff. Like, this is the best. Yeah. Like, could LeBron medal at the javelin in the Olympics? Is per. It's that. That's what first takes.
- [72:47]
Danny Kelly
I just think using some random high school is, like, a really bad example.
- [72:52]
Dan Heifetz
Speaking of arguments, what can we use?
- [72:54]
Danny Kelly
If you used a person that went to the Olympics after just picking up a fucking javelin or any fucking sport.
- [73:01]
Dan Heifetz
He could do it.
- [73:02]
Craig Robick
If I have. If I ever meet LeBron and we get him on any pot. If I ever get to just talk with him, the first thing I'm going to ask him is this.
- [73:07]
Dan Heifetz
Would you guys rather have Mariah care. Let it Mariah Carey. Let us use fantasy for. For our show or have LeBron James, like, throw a javelin and we get to be there and film it.
- [73:17]
Craig Robick
I want that.
- [73:18]
Danny Kelly
I want Mariah. Mariah. Come on.
- [73:20]
Dan Heifetz
Okay. Speaking of emails that DK says are. Aren't going to be very definitive, we got an unbelievable email from Marcus. Something just embone. So for those who don't, his email, his Gmail severance Mark. His gmail avatar is MC. It's McLovin with Mark next to him. DK, will you summarize what the argument we've been having about Stonehenge is?
- [73:45]
Danny Kelly
I don't remember what the time frame was. Is it your whole life? The idea is you had your whole life.
- [73:49]
Craig Robick
I think it was your whole life.
- [73:50]
Dan Heifetz
I get the rest.
- [73:51]
Danny Kelly
You had your whole life, but no heavy machinery.
- [73:54]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah. No.
- [73:55]
Craig Robick
Like you. You have.
- [73:57]
Danny Kelly
Could Heifetz and a group of his friends build Stonehenge?
- [74:00]
Dan Heifetz
Like 20 or 30. 30 or 40 people, like build Stonehenge and we have like 50 years.
- [74:05]
Craig Robick
I'm. I'm upset with ourselves. I. We should have gone back and. Was it 30 or 40 people? I don't remember how many.
- [74:10]
Dan Heifetz
Fine, 20. Whatever. I'll take 20. That's fine. I don't care. It's. That was. The point was we have, like, the more poor we have 50 years. We have like.
- [74:17]
Danny Kelly
Do we have email, do we have emails from Marcus?
- [74:20]
Dan Heifetz
We have.
- [74:20]
Danny Kelly
Because apparently he solved the problem.
- [74:23]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, no, Marcus didn't. But a guy in Flint, Michigan did. Okay, let me tell you about this.
- [74:28]
Danny Kelly
He there?
- [74:29]
Dan Heifetz
Well, no. He built a replica of Stonehenge in his backyard.
- [74:33]
Danny Kelly
Mm.
- [74:35]
Dan Heifetz
Now it is smaller however.
- [74:37]
Danny Kelly
Okay, he's okay, so immediately we fly.
- [74:40]
Dan Heifetz
No, he's six.
- [74:42]
Craig Robick
Like this guy's got a big backyard.
- [74:44]
Dan Heifetz
He did it by himself. He did it alone. This is so he. This 60 year old guy has found a way. There's like local news on this from the 90s. He moved six. There's a video. They, they just showed up. He can move £1,600 blocks by himself. Like he found a way to move literally like a ton a football field in like one day. So okay, this is un. So he just to go into this, I tell you the technique. But like I know you're probably skeptical. This motherfucker moved a six. He also then his point was it scales. So he showed a little one. He moved a 16,000 pound stone in his backyard by himself and got 1600. No, he tried the 1600, then he did 16,000. He moved his 16,000 pound stone by himself.
- [75:38]
Craig Robick
16,000 pounds stone?
- [75:40]
Dan Heifetz
Yes, 16,000.
- [75:42]
Craig Robick
So it's not 1600. 16,000.
- [75:44]
Dan Heifetz
He could do anything. It doesn't matter. There's a video. People like I don't believe you. There's a video. There's his son posted a video of him moving his son's barn. It's a 30 by 40 barn. He's just fucking spinning it here.
- [75:55]
Danny Kelly
Okay, this is.
- [75:56]
Craig Robick
I.
- [75:56]
Danny Kelly
Okay, I want to clarify my argument because I'm not saying it's impossible to do. I'm saying you Heifetz couldn't figure out how to do it.
- [76:05]
Dan Heifetz
Well, you're wrong because now I've seen this fucking video and I'll tell you how he did it. It's incredible.
- [76:09]
Danny Kelly
You didn't have this fuck guy from Flint.
- [76:10]
Dan Heifetz
You waited too long to take. You waited too long. We started. Guess what?
- [76:13]
Danny Kelly
You didn't say this guy that is an engineering genius.
- [76:16]
Dan Heifetz
He's not a genius. It's incredible, dude. An actual quote from this guy. He's like my favorite tool is gravity. This guy's great revelation was he takes the. Like you just wedge a little piece of wood under, get it up and then you just dig. And then you just get a little rock. He starts with a 2,000 pound stone. But his point is it's physics. It's all the same thing. Just with scale. He literally takes a little tiny rock and he just puts it under this like 2,000 pound stone. And he's like, you can just from there get it to like balance. And once it's balanced, you just spin it and it's like weightless. Like, not weightless obviously, but you can spin it. Now that's not going anywhere. But then you add a second stone and you kind of just spin it and you can overall create a direction with the stones. And he has all these other ways you do it. Like you can create. Don't even get me started with the wood. But he found a way to spin these heavy ass rocks hundreds of yards in his backyard. He did it by himself. His kids wouldn't even fucking help him with it. They thought he was crazy. All that's to say, I still don't.
- [77:16]
Danny Kelly
Think you could do it.
- [77:17]
Craig Robick
So also I should say this. The. The stones that rested on top of the upright sarsen stones in Stonehenge, like the stones that were on top of the two standing stones, the ones on top of, weighed around 25 tons.
- [77:30]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, that's a lot. I'm just saying this one random guy in Flint, Michigan did it himself without any help. And I'm just like, as a fucking hobby.
- [77:39]
Danny Kelly
Yeah, yeah.
- [77:40]
Dan Heifetz
And so if you could do that, the principles apply. Also the most important part. You guys aren't moved by this. You got to watch the video.
- [77:47]
Danny Kelly
My point, My point was never that it's physically impossible.
- [77:50]
Dan Heifetz
Well, because your point was definitely it was physically impossible.
- [77:53]
Danny Kelly
No, my point, that's obviously not physically impossible. They fucking made Stonehenge.
- [77:58]
Craig Robick
Well, my point was.
- [77:59]
Danny Kelly
Well, the aliens definitely helped, but like, you know, this guy, their giant spaceships.
- [78:04]
Dan Heifetz
But the best part and the reason I. One of the reasons I believe is so much you'll never believe this guy's name. As we sit here and argue about basically moving. Like, can you create some walls with stones?
- [78:14]
Craig Robick
Ken Bone.
- [78:14]
Dan Heifetz
His name is. You wish. Wally Wallington. Wall is in his name twice. And he rebuilt a replica of stone.
- [78:25]
Danny Kelly
Wait, is he, is his name Wally? Because his last name's Wallington, though? Because that's not his name.
- [78:29]
Dan Heifetz
I don't know.
- [78:31]
Craig Robick
So what was the heaviest stone Wally was working with?
- [78:33]
Dan Heifetz
£16,000, which is eight tons.
- [78:36]
Craig Robick
Yeah. That is one third of the weight of the Stonehenge stones.
- [78:39]
Dan Heifetz
He did it alone.
- [78:40]
Craig Robick
Just saying. All I'm saying, he fucking did it alone.
- [78:44]
Danny Kelly
I would just like to point out once again that I was doubting your mental aptitude for figuring out how to do it. Not the fact that It's.
- [78:51]
Dan Heifetz
Well, guess what? I'm just gonna find Wally's sons and we're gonna do. I don't even need 40 people.
- [78:55]
Danny Kelly
Like three people tell someone how to ride a bike. But it's actually hard like this. This doesn't seem like an easy thing to pull off.
- [79:04]
Dan Heifetz
I'm not gonna lie. I thought you guys would be a little more impressed that someone just fucking built Stonehenge by the difference. Yeah, I can tell. It's a third scale. He built it. You're right. I can tell that I've been radicalized by this thing he built. It's a third the fucking size and he just did it. And he literally no machinery, nothing. It's used wood.
- [79:24]
Danny Kelly
This guy sounds like a genius, though. Like, it's. What is.
- [79:26]
Dan Heifetz
It's one of those, like, dude, I don't even know.
- [79:30]
Danny Kelly
Like, oh, he's a retired construction worker.
- [79:33]
Dan Heifetz
He's a construction. He's not even an engineer. He's just a construction worker. He just literally moves stones all day. Like he's on a construction lot his whole life. And he just was like, I could figure this out. And his friends, honestly, it was like this, though. His friends were like, no, you can't. And he did it.
- [79:47]
Craig Robick
How long did it take?
- [79:48]
Dan Heifetz
It's honestly, like we had this argument, but then I spent the rest of my life trying to figure it out.
- [79:52]
Danny Kelly
I think if you had this guy, you could do it. How about that?
- [79:54]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, he died, so.
- [79:56]
Craig Robick
Well, he's dead.
- [79:58]
Dan Heifetz
I think so. I actually don't know that for sure. I hope he's not dead.
- [80:00]
Craig Robick
Did a stone fall?
- [80:01]
Dan Heifetz
Anyone knows Wally Wallington or their sons, I beg you to email us Wally Wallington, please. If you know the Wallington Sons or Wally Wallington Stone.
- [80:10]
Danny Kelly
Wally Wallington and stun stone movie.
- [80:15]
Craig Robick
And if you do know their sons, please don't tell them about that really crass joke I just made. I didn't mean that. I didn't want that. He got crushed by a stone and died.
- [80:24]
Dan Heifetz
I didn't mean that.
- [80:25]
Craig Robick
Oh, no.
- [80:25]
Dan Heifetz
He did actually pass out of it. He did get injured at once by this. He almost crushed his feet multiple times.
- [80:29]
Danny Kelly
And I mean, you're working with heavy stones here.
- [80:32]
Craig Robick
16, 000 pound stone did move me a little.
- [80:34]
Dan Heifetz
He got it upright. Like, he also figured out a way. He didn't just move it. He figured a way to get it. He stood up the 16, 000 pound stone.
- [80:41]
Craig Robick
Well, that's. He needs to get it. He needs to get it on top of two other stones that are standing up.
- [80:46]
Dan Heifetz
You're. This is where you're getting hooked. Caught up that this guy did all this, and he also caught. Oh, my. He. You're not impressed that, you know, we got to watch the video? I can't even.
- [80:54]
Craig Robick
What do you want us to do?
- [80:56]
Dan Heifetz
I thought.
- [80:57]
Craig Robick
You want me to take off my shirt and run around? What do you want me to do?
- [81:00]
Dan Heifetz
I thought you guys wouldn't be like, well, didn't even get the stone on top. I'm like, this stood up a £60,000 stone. You're not even interested in how he did it?
- [81:08]
Craig Robick
Wait, did he get the stone Interested?
- [81:10]
Dan Heifetz
I don't know. I was trying to find more video. A lot of the videos are from the 90s. He actually sold on his DVDs. Wait a minute.
- [81:16]
Craig Robick
Did he recreate Stonehenge or not? Did he have the stones on top or not?
- [81:20]
Dan Heifetz
I think he died before he totally finished it, but he did get some of them on top.
- [81:23]
Danny Kelly
I'm seeing some pictures.
- [81:24]
Dan Heifetz
Eight or nine.
- [81:25]
Danny Kelly
I'm seeing some pictures of, like, full.
- [81:28]
Dan Heifetz
It's not small.
- [81:30]
Danny Kelly
I don't know what you call these, but, like, yeah, he got the stone on the top.
- [81:32]
Craig Robick
He did get some stones on top.
- [81:33]
Dan Heifetz
But dk, you're looking at the picture. It's not small.
- [81:37]
Danny Kelly
No, it's not small. I. Again, to be clear, and this is again, more just for fun a bit. I don't think you could figure it out.
- [81:45]
Dan Heifetz
Okay, fine.
- [81:46]
Danny Kelly
Someone with experience with levers and pulleys.
- [81:49]
Dan Heifetz
And all this shit, likely that I.
- [81:50]
Danny Kelly
Could figure out how to do it.
- [81:51]
Dan Heifetz
Or LeBron could beat every single javelin person in the world on his first try.
- [81:55]
Danny Kelly
LeBron.
- [81:56]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, that's definitely the right answer. Okay. Definitely right answer. All right, good.
- [81:59]
Craig Robick
I think.
- [81:59]
Danny Kelly
I think LeBron could figure out how to make Stonehenge.
- [82:02]
Dan Heifetz
Okay. That's called compromise. We need more of that in modern distance. Last one here before we get out of here, we have to. Craig has been on a farm for a week, and you started telling us about how you watched.
- [82:14]
Danny Kelly
He's building his own Stonehenge out there.
- [82:16]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, I want. I just want farm time with Craig. Craig, tell us about what it's like on the farm.
- [82:21]
Craig Robick
It's very peaceful.
- [82:22]
Dan Heifetz
It's.
- [82:22]
Craig Robick
It's very. You know, I get it. I get why people throw it all away to go live on a farm in the great outdoors and not be bothered by anybody. But I went. There are. There is a working farm, and there are little baby calves and cows and bulls. And today we went and saw the little baby calves Is very cute. And I learned how bulls are castrated. Are you guys aware of this process?
- [82:44]
Dan Heifetz
I think I am.
- [82:46]
Craig Robick
Go ahead.
- [82:46]
Danny Kelly
I don't. I don't know.
- [82:47]
Dan Heifetz
I believe they kind of get it wrong. I read a book that described this once that they, you know, in a leather bound book, but they tack. They kind of hold the thing down and I think crush them when they're kids. Right? Like, they kind of crush.
- [83:01]
Danny Kelly
Christ.
- [83:03]
Craig Robick
So what I was told today was that there's basically this. This plier like device.
- [83:07]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [83:07]
Craig Robick
But with rubber bands at the end. And they don't. They don't crush your balls. They squeeze the. The ball sack essentially to the point where they cut off the blood flow completely. To the point where basically they. The. The testicles just die because of lack of blood flow. And then they kind of eventually fall off.
- [83:25]
Danny Kelly
Why are you telling us this?
- [83:27]
Craig Robick
That's what I learned. That's what I learned today.
- [83:29]
Danny Kelly
Jesus.
- [83:31]
Craig Robick
I have a jar of them here.
- [83:33]
Danny Kelly
Hold on.
- [83:34]
Dan Heifetz
I got that bastard's eye.
- [83:36]
Craig Robick
I got that message. I know.
- [83:37]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, my God.
- [83:39]
Craig Robick
But yeah, they do it when they're very young. Okay. I gotta say, there's worse ways. There's worse ways for that to go, I would say.
- [83:49]
Danny Kelly
Right? Yeah. Like what Heifetz suggested.
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Craig Robick
Crush them with a giant stone.
- [83:57]
Danny Kelly
Drop. Stonehenge.
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Craig Robick
You just need a couple pulleys and levies, easy.
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Dan Heifetz
You don't need modern technology. My favorite tool's gravity, baby.
- [84:07]
Craig Robick
Oh, gosh. You know what else I learned? I learned that male. Was it. Wait, what? Who. Who was I talking to about this? Male peacocks are only males and females are called peahens. Did you know that?
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Dan Heifetz
I guess. Right in the name, isn't it?
- [84:24]
Craig Robick
I guess I never thought about that.
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Dan Heifetz
Never thought about that either. I guess it makes sense.
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Craig Robick
And then you have peacocks and peahens.
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Dan Heifetz
I guess is right in there. Yeah. Peacock.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah. These are the two things you've learned so far. He's. He's on his way to being a farmer.
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Craig Robick
Yeah.
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Danny Kelly
He's learning the names of things.
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Dan Heifetz
Did pasteurized milk come up? Get some raw milk while you're there.
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Craig Robick
You know, it's funny. I haven't. I. I met somebody. Don't. I met somebody at the Emmys who was born in Russia and immigrated in when she was like a kid, maybe 8 or 10 years old. And she drank raw milk in Russia and still drinks raw milk to this day. That's the only milk she drinks.
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Danny Kelly
Okay.
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Craig Robick
Just saying. There are dozens.
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Danny Kelly
And she lived. She's doing great.
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Dan Heifetz
She's a great Job.
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Craig Robick
She's a great job, smart person, healthy as a horse.
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Danny Kelly
Raw milk. Yeah.
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Craig Robick
I honestly was just shocked. I've never met anybody who, like, actually did it or has done it consistently. There's like, the Gwyneth Paltrow tights where it's like.
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Dan Heifetz
Right.
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Danny Kelly
It's like, performative.
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Craig Robick
Yes, yes. But she's like, no. I've done it my entire life. I've never thought about it.
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Dan Heifetz
There's that woman in Florida.
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Danny Kelly
She had the gut biome that could manage it.
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Dan Heifetz
The woman in Florida gave her kid raw milk, and I think she gave her kid. Not Ebola. The kid got some horrific disease, and then she sued them. And then the milk has. On the bottle not for human consumption.
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Craig Robick
Oh, God.
- [85:50]
Dan Heifetz
And they're like, yeah, kind of put it right there.
- [85:53]
Craig Robick
Yeah.
- [85:54]
Dan Heifetz
The.
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Craig Robick
You know. You know what else I learned that I didn't realize?
- [85:57]
Danny Kelly
What?
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Craig Robick
Do you guys know the difference between 2% and whole milk in terms of percentage? Like, the fat percentage difference?
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Dan Heifetz
Actually, no.
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Danny Kelly
What.
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Craig Robick
What do you think?
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Danny Kelly
Is it is whole like 10 or something like that? Like, is it exponentially?
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Craig Robick
It's only 4%.
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Danny Kelly
Oh.
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Dan Heifetz
Oh. I was gonna say I thought it was like three. I guess in my head, the whole time it's been three.
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Craig Robick
I feel like the branding of that has really tricked me my entire life. I thought the difference between whole milk and 2% milk was. Was vast.
- [86:25]
Dan Heifetz
Oh, the branding tricked you.
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Craig Robick
Well, I'm just like, whole milk and 2% to me are just in completely different categories. I'm like, oh, it's literally one is 96% and the other is 98% non fat. That's. That's nothing. In my head, I thought it was way worse.
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Danny Kelly
What about whipped cream? Or not? Not whipped cream. Heavy whipping cream.
- [86:45]
Craig Robick
Probably mostly fat.
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Danny Kelly
Okay.
- [86:48]
Craig Robick
100% fatty of butter. But, you know, heavy cream is probably.
- [86:52]
Dan Heifetz
I don't know.
- [86:52]
Craig Robick
That's a good trivia question. What percent fat is?
- [86:55]
Dan Heifetz
As you can tell, heavy whipping creams.
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Danny Kelly
Heavy whipping cream is 36 to 40% milk fat. Okay, There you go. Don't put that in your cereal. That might be gross.
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Craig Robick
It's just funny. It's called whole milk. It's 4% fat.
- [87:07]
Dan Heifetz
You're lying. So Craig wants. Craig wants the real adverse. 100%. Craig wants the hondo pee.
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Craig Robick
I just want to drink butter in my coffee. People do put butter in their coffee. That's the whole bulletproof thing.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah. Did you know that DK put it in my hair? What do you think keeps it up?
- [87:21]
Craig Robick
Slick butter in the coffee apparently helps your Body ingest the caffeine or it's like a slow release of the caffeine.
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Danny Kelly
Something that's interesting.
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Dan Heifetz
Yeah.
- [87:30]
Craig Robick
Someone's gonna destroy me in an email about.
- [87:32]
Dan Heifetz
That's one of those things like you some you say to justify like, hey, just admit you like butter in your coffee, people. Red wine. A glass of red wine helps you every week. It's like, shut the up. You like.
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Danny Kelly
Craig is our own, like special rfk. Just saying wild things.
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Dan Heifetz
Butter. I should have made you do the testicle story as RFK Tylenol fixes autism.
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Craig Robick
That's breaking news, by the way.
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Dan Heifetz
Yes.
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Danny Kelly
Yeah, Craig, what else? Give me one more thing on the farm that that's going on. What are the. What are the animals they have out there again?
- [88:07]
Craig Robick
There's goats, horses.
- [88:10]
Dan Heifetz
Did I tell you, when Jackie was a kid, her older brother when she went to kindergarten, taught her all the animal sounds wrong because he thought it'd be funny.
- [88:16]
Danny Kelly
Yes.
- [88:17]
Dan Heifetz
Jackie stood up to kindergarten, was like, the cow goes oink. And they thought there was something wrong with her.
- [88:22]
Danny Kelly
They're like, that's this girl.
- [88:27]
Craig Robick
I'm still very much learning. I invite like, you know.
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Dan Heifetz
All right, well, email us at bringer fancy football team to com about farms. I. We've actually never been so like, I. I never felt how bad we all were at this until we had the trivia question, like, how high should corn be? But how. How far? How tall should a corn. July 4th of July, and none of us.
- [88:45]
Danny Kelly
The 4th of July?
- [88:46]
Dan Heifetz
Yeah, it's knee high by the 4th of July.
- [88:48]
Danny Kelly
It rhymes.
- [88:48]
Dan Heifetz
Everyone was disgusted with us that we.
- [88:51]
Craig Robick
Didn'T know this, didn't know that.
- [88:53]
Dan Heifetz
So, yeah, email some of your fantasy football gmail trivia questions about farming and also just tell us stuff about living on farms. Cool.
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Danny Kelly
Craig. I love. Yeah. Farmer Craig.
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Dan Heifetz
Farmer Craig. All right. I'm going to build Stonehenge. Okay. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Rodney. Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone for listening. Emails, trivia questions. Emails. Dublin stuff. Thank you for the people.
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Danny Kelly
Oh, yeah.
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Dan Heifetz
Dublin stuff. Thank you, Lord.
- [89:19]
Craig Robick
Lord.
- [89:19]
Danny Kelly
Thank you, Kansas. Nice band, the band Kansas. Sure.
- [89:24]
Craig Robick
Of course.
- [89:26]
Danny Kelly
They were formed in Topeka, Kansas, believe it or not. Yeah, I didn't know that.
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Craig Robick
Carry on, my wayward son. Banger.
- [89:34]
Danny Kelly
Great song. Dust in the Wind.
- [89:38]
Craig Robick
How's that one go?
- [89:41]
Danny Kelly
I don't know. I mean, I'm guessing it says dust in the wind at some point.
- [89:45]
Craig Robick
I only think I know.
- [89:47]
Danny Kelly
Isn't it the song from old school? Dust in the Wind? Oh, I don't know. Like when. When Blue Dies. Am I thinking. Am I thinking of the wrong song here?
- [89:58]
Craig Robick
I can't remember. I trust you, though.
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Danny Kelly
Hold on, let me. Let me just check. Dust in the Wind.
- [90:03]
Dan Heifetz
I'm also really struggling after Carry On, My Wayward Son.
- [90:07]
Craig Robick
I don't.
- [90:07]
Danny Kelly
I don't know any of these other songs.
- [90:09]
Craig Robick
I'd have to listen.
- [90:09]
Danny Kelly
Yeah. Will Ferrell sings Dustin.
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Dan Heifetz
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Danny Kelly
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