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Danny Kelly
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Danny Hypert
He fell down twice. He fell down twice.
Danny Kelly
I think I could talk for 45 minutes about Trevor Lawrence in this game. Between the booger, the game winning touchdown, everything but dk. What? What just happened that was crazy.
Danny Hypert
A classic Jaguars performance where you don't really know how to feel about it. There was one point like right after he scored, I was like, I can't tell if I should be embarrassed for the Chiefs or The Jags here, because that was like such a weird way to win. He fell down, got stepped on by the center, fell or the guard maybe fell down twice, got up, still ran in for a touchdown. Just a hilarious turn of events. But yeah, I mean, I can't believe The Jags are 4 and 1. I think their defense is legit. I'm not sure so much about their offense, but this was actually a pretty fun game.
Craig Korlbeck
Really fun game. Trevor Lawrence, that touchdown run, man. My friend texted our group chat and just said that was peak Eli Manning. And that. That does. That did feel like something only Eli Manning would ever do is fall twice and then still get up and somehow run into touchdown.
Danny Kelly
Dude, that whole final drive was Eli.
Danny Hypert
Manning s. The first totally Manningham throw.
Danny Kelly
Including the. The. The Butker made a huge mistake kicking the ball out of bounds, and the Jags got the ball, the 40. Trevor Lawrence takes the first two plays. They have a minute, holds on to the ball, and like three timeouts. Trevor Lawrence trades 45 seconds and a timeout and two plays to get three yards. And I'm like, this is like your career. Not career defining, but I'm like, this is the biggest regular season game of your life. And that was horrific. Then Brian Thomas, the whole, like, he gets the ball to. Brian Thomas gets the ball, Tommy Brown, they're at the 11. Suddenly they're going to score too fast. And like that whole sequence is crazy. And then like the pick, that was DPI and they're at the 1. And then he fucking trips and gets up. Chris Jones is just standing there and he runs in the end zone. That was honestly, to me, Trevor Lawrence's whole career in a nutshell. Kind of like they're at the one yard line. You assume he's going to be great. He trips, he falls down, gets up and then suddenly runs in the end zone. The Jags are forward one.
Danny Hypert
This. This was the whole. You said it. The whole Lawrence experience in terms of the peaks and valleys, right? Like, there was. There was plays in this game where I'm like, he. He runs like the wind blows. He. He's so fast out there, looking like a gazelle. He scored two rushing touchdowns and he made some very critical decisions to take off and run with it. And. And that was very helpful. But then also he just makes these bone, boneheaded plays. Like he let the freaking clock run out down there in the red zone. Like, you know, it's just like took.
Danny Kelly
A delay a game and they almost. They were close to a delay a game after the delay of game.
Craig Korlbeck
I know.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There. I think what was like, if you really want to get into, like the weeds. What I ha. What. What they were saying was basically they were expecting an all out blitz, which was what the Chiefs were doing. They were sending at least five, I think, going back into those plays. And so what they were trying to do was like, do a hard count, get them to jump because they were so, you know, amped up to try and get pressure and sack him. And then the next play they did was like a screen. But at the same time, man, you gotta be like, aware of the play clock. You let the play clock run out in that critical. And then it was. They backed him up like five yards. There was like a second and 15. I mean, it. There's so many ways in which this could have gone horrible for. For Trevor Lawrence and the Jags, especially after picking your nose on the most zoomed in shot ever done on a player.
Danny Kelly
Like a horror movie. You've seen guys like kind of snatch a booger and get out his nose. They were zoomed in so far.
Danny Hypert
So far.
Danny Kelly
Why did they do that? That was kind of messed up.
Danny Hypert
I think it's fucked up.
Danny Kelly
I think they did that on purpose. That was why.
Danny Hypert
My theory on this, and I've talked to my dad about this in the past, is they say they. They do these shots at some random time in the game and then save them and then use the.
Danny Kelly
Like a booger. You want to eat later? Yeah, yeah, they save it. Craig, you were switching dirty out ringer fantasy league in a matchup against House. What was your emotional journey there at the end?
Craig Korlbeck
Dude, what a game. Holy shit. I again, nobody cares about your fantasy league, but I did beat House. It was a very close game. All I'll say is it came down to the final drive. He had Mahomes, I had nobody. I was up 1.4 points. Mahomes on the final drive basically needed 30 yards to beat me. And I'm buzzing right now. The boys are buzzing in the fantasy league. The three of us all have a winning record in the ring of fantasy league. So hats off to us. I got to say about Trevor Lawrence, he's funny, man. He's like, best case scenario, Wentz. Like, he's on that scale where he's like such a blockhead sometimes. You know what I mean? He. He has. He has a lot of icks. Like he, he, I. Once again, once every other week, he just runs like five yards past the line of scrimmage and then throws the ball has, like, zero awareness where the line of scrimmage is. The. The QB sneak, jump, fumble. Huge ick. The double trip. There's, like, one throw a game that's, like, the dumbest throw you've ever seen, but I. I should. But outside of that, he was awesome. He was super tough. Like, his ability to, like, evade tackles and. And. And fight for first downs. And the throw to Brian Thomas down the sideline. It was third and seven. A minute left in the game. Down four. That was the best throw at Trevor Lawrence. Dude, that was the most cl. Talk about stadium pulse. It was the best throw of his career. Couldn't have been any more perfect. And you can tell Troy Aikman tonight. Troy Aikman, I don't think loves Trevor Lawrence, but he. But he begrudgingly came around and was complimenting him in that final drive for how good he was.
Danny Kelly
It actually, Lawrence's game was a lot like Caleb Williams's games where there are moments where, like, I see why this was the number one pick in the draft. And we talked about him like he.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, he was essentially the. The anointed one when he was, like, 18 years old or whatever, and they were all.
Danny Kelly
Blockhead is the perfect word because. Ick. Like, all these moments were. I mean, how about him getting Dikembe Mutombo at the goal line by Nick Bolton with one of the best.
Craig Korlbeck
Fumble. I hate that play. The only guy. Drew Brees is, like, the only guy who could do that. No, no, because you can't see him. You're huge. QB sneaky. No one knows where he's coming from or something. Like, I just.
Danny Kelly
Just.
Craig Korlbeck
The vulnerable football over the line is. Everybody's swiping at it. It's the worst play.
Danny Kelly
I. I mean, it's cool when you do it, but, like, it was pretty. It's a huge. People didn't see it. They're at the inch line, and Trevor Lawrence went to dunk the ball over the goal line. And Nick Bolton, the Chiefs linebacker, who's quietly been huge for the Super Bowls, they won. And Nick Bolton just punched the ball out. I would say you might have to measure it, like, in millimeters, how close. But he did dislodge the ball before the goal line.
Craig Korlbeck
And I got to say, hi, Fitz. I thought they had a pretty good sideline, Kim, to show that.
Danny Kelly
Look how helpful it is when the ball's on the goal line.
Danny Hypert
And they had more cameras.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. It's amazing. Monday Night Football does it. More cameras. Yeah, Look. Look how magical it is. With the balls on the goal line. Incredible. Who could have anticipated that would be where you want a camera? I but I also, also, I'm sorry, I have to go back. I we were recording straight after the game. But I had to take two seconds and listen to his interview after. Did you guys listen to what he said after the touch? Trevor Lawrence touchdown.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
First time I can remember someone being totally, completely honest since like unvarnished. Honestly since Richard Sherman screaming about Michael Crabtree. Joe Buck's wife was like the Or Michelle Beisner. Buck was like what were you thinking there on that last play when you scored? And I wrote it down. Quote he said panic, sheer panic.
Danny Hypert
That's almost as bad as seeing ghosts.
Danny Kelly
He said we didn't have any timeouts. I was going to throw it out of bounds to stop the clock. And then there was really nobody around me. So I just made a play.
Danny Hypert
Wow.
Danny Kelly
Which again if he, if Chris Jones just like I think Chris Jones thought he had been sacked.
Danny Hypert
He must have thought that the play was dead. But still that like you gotta keep going until you hear the whistle.
Danny Kelly
Well, if Chris Jones had moved and touched him while he was on the ground, Trevor Lawrence would have panic. Sheer panic. He just got tripped and fell. I, I that was unbelievable. I also think this is why the NFL makes 18 billion a year. Not because of the great teams playing. Because this CR. This game was bizarre. I mean Patrick Mahomes threw a pick six at the one yard line to Devil.
Danny Hypert
That was an incredible play. Yeah, yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
James Harrison.
Danny Kelly
James Harris. Yeah. He got James Harrison for a 14 point swing. There was a Trevor Lawrence at the 1 millimeter line. The Chiefs got the ball back and then where they went and scored. That's kind of a 14 point swing too.
Craig Korlbeck
This might have been the best game ever for plays that occurred at the one yard line.
Danny Kelly
The whole game was a goal line.
Craig Korlbeck
You have the Lawrence fumble on the QB sneak thing. You have the pick six that occurred at the one. You have the stupid double trip touchdown was at the one. Pretty insane game. At the one.
Danny Kelly
Don't forget the, the interception in the end zone that became a defensive pass. Interference was in the end zone. And that crazy bobbled pick that the Chiefs somehow did not intercept. Where.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh my God.
Danny Kelly
And I think Bolton where if one of them was there it would have been effortless. But they were both there and they. I actually can't remember ball going back and forth between defenders. So I think it hit each of them twice maybe three times. And then and, and Drew tranquil just kind of Landed on the ground staring at the goal line like he couldn't believe they didn't catch the ball. I, I, I, I, that was a inexplicable game.
Craig Korlbeck
You know, I kind of think that the Chiefs played pretty well. Like I, I gotta give it to the Jags.
Danny Hypert
They looked, they looked a little bit better than they had.
Craig Korlbeck
They did. Like, I think the Jags won this game. This was not like a Chiefs offense can't move the ball. Like Mahomes played great.
Danny Hypert
I agree with that.
Craig Korlbeck
Momes is really good outside from the pick. Like, I think the Jags just came out, won this football game, which is really impressive.
Danny Kelly
The, you're right. I mean it's funny because it's the Chiefs. I mean the pick six. Yeah, the game, honestly. I mean again the, the Chiefs lost by three and again the pick six was very much a 14 point swing for Jacksonville and that kind of was the game. I do want to just. And there's some bigger stuff I want to talk about with you guys before we get to waivers, but I, I do need to mention the referees in this game were just. I am usually pretty pro ref, which is a pretty weird pro Chiefs.
Craig Korlbeck
There's a lot of questionable Chiefs there.
Danny Kelly
So it was the correct call but a bad start when Travis Kelsey kind of just scored a touchdown to take it back. And Mahomes Kelsey and I think I'll believe him.
Craig Korlbeck
Travis Kelsey's like, do you know who, do you know who my wife is?
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
He's like, I'll have you dead tonight.
Danny Kelly
But you. But they were screaming at the refs and you could weirdly hear them.
Craig Korlbeck
One yard, one yard.
Danny Kelly
And then they just walk over and pick it up. Which they were right. But it also just was a bad optics because they kind of just.
Danny Hypert
Were they right? I think it was pretty close.
Craig Korlbeck
We were talking about who's the, the, the ref back in New York or whoever called in and was like, I don't know about that call.
Danny Kelly
He was. Well, they're. Well the rule is you can make that kind of pick. Like basically the whole rub route thing where the Bass set a basketball pick moving is illegal beyond one yard. But Andy Reid's good at this stuff. The what? Within one yard. It's legal. Russell Y, who I'm not the biggest fan of, kind of walked in and was like, that really looked like it was 1.05 yards downfield in my view. I'm like, yard, it's fine. But it was just.
Danny Hypert
There's another Craig. That's another play that happened at the one.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that. Yeah. The first play, Kelsey's touchdown was at the one. The whole game's at the goal line. And so that I think came up later when it. It just. That's just something you kind of file away. But then the other big play in this game that really could have shifted it was inside their. The Jaguars, I think at their own 12 or 15. I forget where Trevor Lawrence throws what looks like at first a really horrific interception. But then they show the replay and.
Danny Hypert
Paul receiver tends to look bad down in the secondary.
Danny Kelly
It really. I. The only play I could that reminded me of was the Nikel Roby Coleman. The Saints Rams defensive pass interference like he just got rocked. The receiver got destroyed by defender and then the Chiefs just caught the ball and the Chief scored. And the Trevor Lawrence they cut to him and he was like. He said you could see read his mouth. He was like what the fuck?
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
And that was a crazy missed call.
Danny Hypert
That one was way more egregious than the pick play at the 1 yard line. The pick play at the 1 yard line. I think it like that's kind of.
Craig Korlbeck
A 50, 50 call.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, it was like pretty close. So I think you could call either way. It was a little weird that they reversed it on the field without like looking at the replay.
Craig Korlbeck
But they literally got bullied by Travis Kelly.
Danny Kelly
But the Chief scored two plays later. So the Chiefs were kind of gifted. Seven points. That was.
Danny Hypert
Yeah. And that.
Danny Kelly
So.
Danny Hypert
But, but that pick. Yeah, the. When they tackled the. The non DPI call or whatever was really egregious and obviously a massive, massive swing in the game. And then you know, obviously the. The pass interference call on Brian Thomas in the end zone at the end of the game, I think was the correct call. Did you guys like. Did you think that call was right where he was basically armbarred him in the back of the end zone that led to the pick, but then they reversed.
Danny Kelly
Bothers me that that's the rule, but that is absolutely how it is called all season, all the time. I wish, I wish it wasn't that way where like basically if you're cornerback trailing and the receiver just turns around with the right timing, there's kind of nothing you can do. And I don't like that. But that is absolutely initiated all the time.
Danny Hypert
It is hard to play corner. It's very hard to play that position.
Danny Kelly
Don't envy those people.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
No, on the bright side, there are no old ones. So there's no way to age gracefully either. With that said, I feel like, we've talked about the Chiefs all the time. I, I'm curious. I don't know. DK, do you think the Jags are 4 and 1? What do you think of this Jaguars team?
Danny Hypert
Man, my, so my big impression in.
Danny Kelly
This Craig's like, what a stupid quake.
Craig Korlbeck
No, no, that was like a, that was such a classic, like, TV question. I loved it.
Danny Hypert
I was very impressed with the defense. They were missing Trayvon Walker, their top, well, one of their top pass rushers in this game. But I just felt like during the game they just fly around and hit the shit out of, out of offensive players. It was very impressive watching them. They love to float to the football, and every single time they're punching at the ball, they lead the NFL in takeaways. This is one of the best turnarounds for defense, I think, in, in the league this year. So it's very impressive watching that defensive unit play. And I think, you know, offensively, again, like, the Trevor Lawrence experience is all over the place. It was good to see him connect with Brian Thomas late in the game because I think that was going to be a big storyline if he hadn't have done that.
Craig Korlbeck
And Thomas bobbled the hell out of that. I know.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, it wasn't like a clean catch, but I do think the guy actually tipped it a little. Craig when it was coming down. Yeah, he grayed his finger. Travis Hunter had a couple of incredible plays.
Danny Kelly
Oh, my gosh.
Danny Hypert
There was a couple plays in this game where I was like, oh, that's the guy who they took second overall.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, he had. There was that one, like, play in the flat where he just like, straight up made two guys miss. Like, it was the Oklahoma drill, but it was like one verse two, and he's made him both miss.
Danny Hypert
And then he lost a couple of guys later in the game.
Craig Korlbeck
The deep ball was pretty incredible. And it does. I'm like, dude, get this guy off the fucking defense and give him 10 targets a game. Yeah, you need, we need to be throwing to him a lot.
Danny Kelly
I hard not to, hard not to think that watching them on offense, I'm like, wow. It's just funny because they need a quarterback. But yeah, they just put them on offense.
Danny Hypert
I, I, I was impressed overall with the Jags, though. I mean, I think they're kind of messy and that's always probably going to be in their DNA. But yeah, I was impressed. The defense, man, they just hit the out of people.
Danny Kelly
Can I do the, the least favorite thing, But I do think is accurate, which is the most Annoying yum yucker thing. If Trevor Lawrence just, like, didn't run that in for a touchdown and just, I don't know, tripped with the game on the line at the one, would we be excited about the Jags?
Craig Korlbeck
No, but that's football. That's how it works.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hypert
That is funny because every week, pretty much.
Danny Kelly
I know, but it's just like, that was that. That. That was the one in a hundred version of that play that worked out. Well, every other version is a disaster.
Danny Hypert
I would. Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
I mean, I would have still been.
Danny Hypert
Impressed with their defense, but their offense would have been a different story.
Craig Korlbeck
You're 100, right? But you could do. I mean, if Derrick Henry doesn't fumble against the Bills, the Bills have two losses, and that's almost a third to the Dolphins. And everyone's like, what's wrong with the Bills?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, but this is like, if Derrick Henry fumbled, picked it up and ran it in for a touchdown.
Craig Korlbeck
No, I know. I'm just saying, like, you can. You can do that a lot. Trevor Lawrence played great.
Danny Kelly
He. Yes, but also, he fucked up, like, five different things on that drive. It's just funny because it's. I. I guess Trevor Lawrence flashed the things that make me so excited about Trevor Lawrence, and yet even with that play, I still find myself really disappointed with how many mental errors he is making.
Craig Korlbeck
He's a blockhead.
Danny Kelly
Blockhead Is. Is going to stick with me. He is a blockhead. I. That's. That is funny, dude. DK's right. The Jaguars are better than I thought, but Trevor Lawrence is still somehow worse.
Craig Korlbeck
Than I thought at halftime. The. They interviewed Cohen, and it's funny because I think the way he, like, his kind of natural emotions towards his team, I think reflect how we all feel as well. They were asking him, like, what. What did you say to your team at halftime? And he's like, we just need to calmly operate. Just take a big deep breath. Go have fun. He said, take a deep breath twice. And I'm like, that is kind of. I feel like how we all feel. We're like, look, Trevor, you're good. You're talented. Just, like, take a deep breath.
Danny Hypert
Chill, man.
Craig Korlbeck
We'll be good.
Danny Hypert
I do think there is an element too, where I'm not trying to be like, a Lawrence defender or whatever, but, like, I do think he has a reputation now. And so, like, every little thing, we pick apart when he makes mistakes. Because if you look around the league, I mean, quarterbacks are fucking things up constantly. It's like, it's just a Never ending battle. Even Patrick Mahomes fucks up like procedural stuff at times. But that being said, like he does, he didn't, he hasn't proven it like a lot of other quarter quarterbacks have. So I just like to throw out that like procedural shit happens in every game constantly.
Danny Kelly
That's true, that's true. I just, it was, the reality is the biggest I, I, I being hyperbolic. I think this was the biggest game of his regular season. This was versus the Chiefs. Jaguars don't get Monday Night Football at home.
Craig Korlbeck
Dude. They usually in London against the Browns.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
And it's like the, they're going to, you can go beat the Chiefs. And I, I, I just want to say it again. He wasted two downs and 45 seconds at a timeout and he got three yards and he didn't get a pass off. Like that was a bad start. Then took a delay of game trying to hard count a blitz at like the 11 yard line. Took a delay of game just. And then we, I don't know why he called. I, I know they're blitz to your point. They're calling it blitzes and they're trying to get a tunnel screen or a bubble screen. But I'm like that just guarantees you have to use the last timeout. Like I thought that was kind of a strange call because you, unless you score a touchdown, they have to call timeout right there. I just, the whole thing was a little strange, but it worked.
Danny Hypert
But also it was very herky jerky, that's for sure.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, Herky jerky is good. Yeah. Trevor Lawrence is a blockhead. And then. Yeah, the Chiefs. Yeah, they look good, which is funny because they also lost. But I also kind of believe they were if I think if they caught either of the first two passes Mahomes through in that they were going to get in field range.
Craig Korlbeck
I think they'll be fine.
Danny Hypert
Yeah. That was a weird play with the Hollywood Brown not turning his head and just hitting him in the shoulders.
Danny Kelly
I got to tell you though, it was worth it. It was a little underwhelming. But were you guys kind of like kind of. I was pretty locked in watching Mahomes throw the ball as far as he possibly could. I was like, wait, we're gonna, I, I, it didn't go as far as I was hoping, but I actually kind of thought it was going to reach the end zone. Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
And then would he have tried to pull a Jalen hurts and chase after it for 70 yards to catch the tip? Yeah. Do you want to see that.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, I did see that.
Craig Korlbeck
The hill. We missed this on the Sunday night show. But so the Hail Mary at the end of the Broncos game, the Eagles Broncos game that Jalen hurts through, they were like the 30, 35. So it wasn't exactly like a super deep Hail Mary. The other angle, but when you're kind of behind. Hurts showed that hurts. Threw this ball up super high and then chased after it. Just think trying to make it to the end zone in time just in case there was a tip and he could catch his own pass in the end zone, which I thought was honestly genius.
Danny Kelly
And chased it really like a free thrower three pointer that he was trying to get the back. He ran 50 yards like kind of almost got there.
Craig Korlbeck
I almost, I would say now, like if you have a fast third string quarterback and you have a Hail Mary and you're on like the 35, like bring him and have him throw it and then run to the end zone.
Danny Kelly
If Hertz did that, that is immediately one of the best plays in the history of American sports. Right. Like if you catch your own Hail Mary and win a game has.
Craig Korlbeck
I would love. Please email us. Has anyone ever done that before? Has Hertz done that before? Is that, is that a thing?
Danny Kelly
You mean chasing close though?
Danny Hypert
Did he? Like he was like on the 10.
Danny Kelly
He got close enough that if it had been batted up one more time, like he could have got in the fray.
Danny Hypert
Epic. It would have been epic if it worked that way.
Danny Kelly
But yeah, if anyone's done that at any level, like caught their own hell Mary. Please email that to ringer fantasy football g.com okay. Anything else in this? The booger. You want to talk about the booger? Booger Back on Monday Night Football, the nose picking.
Craig Korlbeck
I think we should normalize. Nose graphic.
Danny Kelly
I agree with that. That's fine. It's like, you know what? Look, look. We, we, we can all be.
Craig Korlbeck
Everybody excavates their nostrils and nobody, nobody wants admit it.
Danny Hypert
Stop pretending you don't pick your nose.
Danny Kelly
DK is right. I, I don't know if they save the footage.
Craig Korlbeck
That's so much more cruel if they do that.
Danny Kelly
But I think that they look, maybe they kind of just lingered on them and they were like caught. Wrong timing. Part of me does think they are like, this goes with the narrative of like, I kind of think they're trying to tell a story and they kind of threw him under the bus.
Craig Korlbeck
That's so brutal.
Danny Hypert
If they held that, the director or whatever, the broadcast director. You see that hand coming up towards the nose area. You cut away quickly. You got to be faster than that. They lingered on it really long. They lingered on it for far, far too long.
Craig Korlbeck
They don't do that. If it's Travis, Kelsey or Mahomes that.
Danny Hypert
I think Liam Cohen should have ESPN a piece of his mind.
Craig Korlbeck
There's no way.
Danny Kelly
Kelsey would never. He would have just screamed at them until they picked the flag up.
Danny Hypert
Liam Cohen should run up to the program director and be like, you keep Trevor Lawrence's face out. Out of my. Out of your mouth.
Craig Korlbeck
You keep Trevor Lawrence's finger out of his nose.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
Do you, do you guys think that Travis Kelce had an awkward night tonight where, like, you know, it's like, you know when you have a great day and your partner has a terrible day or vice versa? Do you think it's like he, he's like, hey, how was your day? And she's like, I just set the record for most streams ever on Spotify. And he's like, ah, we had a shitty loss.
Danny Kelly
He was like, Trevor Lawrence tripped, but boo, he did.
Danny Hypert
He did score a touchdown. So he's probably fine.
Danny Kelly
All right. All right. Shall we? Let's get to waivers entering week six. This episode is brought to you by Vuori. Look, I'm not a big let's hype up workout clothes guy, but Vuori, I gotta say, total game changer. Been wearing a lot. If you see me power walking around Los Angeles, probably gonna see me wearing some Vuori Sunday performance joggers that they have. It's made with four way performance stretch fabric, one of the most comfortable things you own. You will wear them everywhere, I promise. All you have to do is go to Vuoria.com Simmons and you get 20% off your first purchase with Vuori. V-U-O-R-I.com Simmons enjoy. Free shipping on all US orders over $75 plus free returns. Exclusions apply. Visit the website for full terms and conditions. There are so many ways to save on cozy fall meals at Whole Foods Market. Save daily with low prices on no antibiotics ever. Meats like chicken breast, ground beef, Atlantic salmon and more from 365 brand. They have yellow low price signs on comforting favorites like Whole Foods Market rotisserie chicken and tempting mini croissants made without bleached or bromated flour. Shop low prices and quality at Whole Foods Market in store or online. All right, we're going to go through waivers entering week six. We're going to go through position by position. We're each going to give Our top pick at that position for the following week. And if we have the same guys, we're going to do a little trivia tiebreaker to decide who gets it. It's not that complicated, I promise you. We'll figure it out as we go along. And we're going to try to just simulate waivers like you do in your league. So hopefully we can help people in 10 team leagues all the way through 14 team leagues as we go down and down into like, deeper, deeper players. We'll try to help everybody here. All right, we're going to get to running back entering week six, and we have to start with big news. So the Chargers, Amir and Hampton, who left, left the Sunday game in a walking boot. Adam Schefter recording this Monday afternoon. Schefter is reporting that the Chargers are going to put a Marion Hampton on injured reserve. So he's going to be out at least four games, potentially more for an ankle injury. So you combine that. Najee Harris already tore his Achilles, so Hampton's out at least a month, potentially longer.
Craig Korlbeck
Dude, the Chargers, my God.
Danny Kelly
And they're down somewhere between two, three, four offensive linemen at a given time, depending on Meg High.
Craig Korlbeck
Beckton's doing Madison Beer play running back and tackle, dude, maybe.
Danny Kelly
So, yeah, this is huge. Obviously Mary and Hampton's the first round pick for the Chargers this year. He's starting to play better. This is interesting. So I think now there's for waivers purposes, obviously, if you have Hamptons, like, you have to go get the backups down. The Chargers are Hassan Haskins, who played for Harbor Michigan, and then Kamani Vidal is more of a pass catching guy. And then you also have a couple other running backs floating around. Michael Carter, who replaced Trey Benson, who replaced James Conner and James Connor's after the season. Trey Benson's also like Hampton on ir, but could come back this season. Then you have Rico Dowdle, who. Shuba Hubbard's not even on IR, but Dowdle ran for 206 yards. Oh, sorry. Do we have the clip for. It's not Rico Dowdle. It's Dodo. We have.
Danny Hypert
That was pretty good.
Danny Kelly
Look at this. Dowdle still on his feet.
Danny Hypert
I like how he physically does that.
Danny Kelly
Feet still on his feet. Obviously Michael Carter and. And Rico Dowdle are more likely to be available in your league or, sorry, more likely to be rostered. Hassan Haskins is probably available almost everywhere, so not many people might have this choice, but maybe you have to cut one of these. Dk. If Carter and Dowdle are rostered, obviously Hassan Haskins is the number one guy this week. I'm curious if there are options. Or maybe you have Michael Carter or you have Rico Daddle. Would you cut one of them for Hassan Haskins? Like, how would you rank those guys with the.
Danny Hypert
I don't think so. I'm. This is tough because I think for me it's pretty close. I doubt it was a clear cut above the other two guys, but for me it's pretty close with Carter and Haskins. The problem with Haskins is we haven't really ever seen him do anything. Yeah, he's playing on a team that is one of the highest pass rate teams in the NFL behind an offensive line that is absolutely decimated. And there's probably also going to be a bit of a committee here with Vidal. Vidal. So I think even though, yeah, even though I think Haskins is probably going to be kind of quote unquote, lead guy, I think I might lean Michael Carter a little bit. Michael Carter for the Cardinals last week had 18 carries and five targets. He was basically far and away their lead back. And then Amari D. Markata, who was one of the other two guys that they were using, he had a huge mistake, obviously dropping the ball before he crossed the goal line. So I think I lean Michael Carter just slightly, but it is very close. Where do you guys land on this?
Craig Korlbeck
When. When Hampton went down, Haskins played eight of the nine snaps immediately after the injury. And then Vidal came in and closed out the drive. And then after that it was garbage time with Trey Lance. I don't know. It's like.
Danny Kelly
This is tough.
Craig Korlbeck
I think Cardinals Trey Beth is on ir. Like in theory he's going to come back. The Cardinals have two more games before their bye week. So in theory there's like a world in which you only get two more games of Michael Carter.
Danny Hypert
Right.
Craig Korlbeck
But I guess you're only going to get, you know, maybe four or five of us on Haskins. I don't know.
Danny Hypert
I actually Chargers do have the Dolphins this week.
Craig Korlbeck
They do have the Dolphins this week, which is huge.
Danny Kelly
But I will say the Dolphins, they still have more talent.
Craig Korlbeck
I kind of. Yeah, I think I, I might lean with DK here. I actually see what DK saying with like the horrible offensive line with la, they're just going to throw the ball a ton. Haskins is super unproven.
Danny Kelly
It's not just that. So the, the Chargers upcoming schedule is Dolphins, then Colts, Vikings, Titans. Those are solid run defenses. Like there's. It's not nothing. Obviously the Titans did just give up that big long run to Amari Mercado.
Craig Korlbeck
But the Cardinals just go Colts, packers buy.
Danny Kelly
I know. And so it's tough. And so I overall, though, maybe it's a false choice where it's like honestly, most of the time, Haskins, I think you have to add Haskins and we even said that.
Danny Hypert
Let's do Haskins here.
Danny Kelly
If Haskins is taken, I would then take Kymani Vidal as well because I wouldn't be shocked if Haskins is the quote unquote starter. And then Kymani Vidal ends up being more valuable in fantasy for two reasons. One, as the Chargers offensive line gets worse, Herbert's depth to target will probably drop and there will probably be more quick passes. And so I, Fidel is the pass catching back. I think Kamani Vidal is a rare build because on one hand I think the Chargers took him because the Rams sniped them on Blake Corum. And I think Kamani Vidal in the draft last, yeah, last year he went his sixth round and he was kind of like Blake Corum cosplay for Jim Harbaugh where he probably wanted Blake Corum. And then so, you know, Kimani Vidal came out of Troy and he's the rare guy's 5 foot 8, 215, he's built, he's a pass catching back. But he has the size for in between the tackles work. He kind of completely fell off the radar because he didn't make the team necessarily. But it was competitive because they signed Najee. Then they drafted him. Aaron Hampton. They didn't necessarily want him. Aaron Hampton. They tried to trade out of that pick. The Eagles called it into the wrong the NFL office during the draft. Wrong. So they took him. Aaron Hampton. But the Chargers were going to go to the season with Najee Harris, Hassan Haskins. Kamani Vidal kind of drafted Hampton by accident. Now he's hurt. Najee's gone. Videl is an unorthodoxly competent pass catcher on a team that might have to throw to running backs now more than they want. So Haskins is the easy one, but it's not like Vidal doesn't have the size for goal line work is what I'm trying to say.
Craig Korlbeck
It might actually be like Haskins and Carter are your top two ads if they're available. And then Vidal, Videl is still there at number three as like the third.
Danny Kelly
Guy you had because you still know how it's going to break down. And again, the answer here could be you actually don't actually want to end up playing any of these guys. And but you know what I mean, it could be like, oh, all of them are going to suck. However, it is still the Chargers and like, I don't know. It's. Even with the O line. I. I don't know. I think you have to take a shot again. We running back is so not liquid this year. I. In fact, we. This whole conversation have it another time. I think next year fantasy. I kind of think fantasy benches should be smaller. I think that more liquidity on waivers is good. It's less stressful to play fantasy when you can actually get people of playing time. I think running backs and playing time's hard this year. Kanye Vidal will play. Hassan Askins is not capable in my mind of playing 80% of snaps, 70% of snaps. I think Vidal is going to be on the field a. Anyone on the field for the charges you want. So I think Haskins, then Vidal by a lot. And then what we're saying, if Rico Dowdle's available, take Rico Dowdle because He ran for 200 yards. If Michael Carter's there, you probably want Michael Carter. The Cardinals, it's tough because we'll see what Jonathan Gannon, the head coach of the colonel's benches, Amari DeMarcado, where it gives him the second shot. I could see DeMarcado being inactive kind of. You got to put sometimes getting some carries and yeah, so bam. That's the other. The fifth guy. Bam Knight for the Cardinals could be the new DeMarcato. Cause he kind of ran pretty well. And so if DeMarcado is benched as a showing, bam. Nice. So I think those are the big names. It's like Dowdle is. We're saying is number one. Do we agree on that? He ran for 200 yards at some point. Do it with the flip sides. Chuba Hubbard can come back. It's. It's kind of all fluid.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know if. Is Dowdle the number one. I mean, Chuba Hubbard's day to day.
Danny Kelly
At the end of the day, if you want. And that's the flip side. If you want someone who's going to play like Hassan, Haskins will play for this team. But I, I like Vidal a lot. I. I think he's gonna have a pass catching role. I think he will be usable. And so Haskins and Vidal will be usable, although potentially flaccid.
Craig Korlbeck
All right. I feel like we've. We've like mapped out everything for 10 minutes here. Who are you taking?
Danny Kelly
Haskins. Because Hampton could be a lot longer than a month.
Danny Hypert
I'm taking Haskins because the Chargers play the Dolphins and the Cardinals play the Colts. So I think the matchup is a little bit better.
Danny Kelly
Yes.
Craig Korlbeck
I think also the fact that the Cardinals go Colts, packers buy. I'm going to take Haskins as well. All right, showdown time.
Danny Hypert
Let's do it.
Craig Korlbeck
All righty. It is the. That sucks. On Mary Hampton's Hurt. It is the Hassan Haskins showdown time.
Danny Kelly
All right, this email's from Dave.
Danny Hypert
Dave D. Bone.
Craig Korlbeck
Good show.
Danny Kelly
Craig's mentions of farming and wine sent up my back my bat signal. I own and operate a small vineyard, Bells Up Winery. Shut up. Bells Up Winery. He owns and operates a small vineyard and winery in the Will. Willamette Valley in Oregon.
Craig Korlbeck
Willamette.
Danny Hypert
There we go.
Danny Kelly
Willamette. He actually wrote out the thing for me to pronounce it. He said William. Williamette Willamette.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Anyway, it's in Oregon. We are currently in the middle of harvest. I appreciate your pod. Keep me going. We have seven planted acres of wine grapes. Grow several different varieties of grapes, mostly Pinot Noir.
Danny Hypert
And he goes, hang out at this place.
Craig Korlbeck
I've been to the Willamette Valley. It's lovely.
Danny Kelly
Oh, really? There you go. So he says, we have seven planted acres of wine grapes. We grow different varieties, but when vines are initially planted, it takes about five years to get a harvestable crop. And a full crop load of Pinot Noir vines generate about two and a half tons of grapes per planted acre. He has a question. His question was, how many cases of finished, wide wine do we expect to get from an acre? It was a little too complicated because the case has 12 things. I tweaking his question a little bit because I like the spirit of it, which is how many grapes go into a bottle of wine? Pinot Noir.
Danny Hypert
How many individual grapes?
Danny Kelly
Yes.
Danny Hypert
Okay.
Danny Kelly
I like. I like where he went with this from. How many grapes go into a bottle of wine? Or we could. We'll go back.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know the answer to this.
Danny Kelly
I don't.
Craig Korlbeck
Because for the amount of like, like wineries I've been to and tastings I've been to, they've probably told me every single. Don't.
Danny Hypert
I've never retained it into one bottle.
Danny Kelly
Dave's question is a little more nuanced, but it involved a lot of math. And I. I was. It would be disaster if we tried.
Craig Korlbeck
All right.
Danny Kelly
Three.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, okay.
Danny Kelly
Just three grapes. That was my guess. No, three, two, one.
Craig Korlbeck
Five hundred.
Danny Kelly
Did you. Wait, did we all say 100?
Danny Hypert
I said 500.
Craig Korlbeck
I said four. Hundred.
Danny Kelly
Oh, I said 100.
Danny Hypert
Okay.
Craig Korlbeck
We're all somewhat in the vicinity of.
Danny Hypert
Feel like I went high. I don't know.
Danny Kelly
Okay.
Danny Hypert
How many is not very efficient.
Danny Kelly
Wow. 500 to 700 grapes. Wow. The ETK.
Danny Hypert
I feel like imagining just the process of going through it. Yeah. It would take a lot.
Danny Kelly
But in retrospect, that makes more sense than what I said. Okay, so you get Hasan Haskins.
Danny Hypert
Okay.
Craig Korlbeck
All right, then I'll take Michael Carter.
Danny Kelly
Rico. We're not counting Rico Dowdle for this. Are we saying he's available?
Craig Korlbeck
No, no. He's 59% roster on Yahoo. We're going to say he's not available.
Danny Kelly
I would take Dowdle over Kamani. I'll give a shot to Kimani Vidal. I'm curious to see if he can get things going. So I like Kamani Vidal and if those guys.
Danny Hypert
It annoys me. It annoys me that his last name is pronounced Videl.
Danny Kelly
I'm pretty sure I have that right. Right.
Danny Hypert
I checked. I was checking. I believe that's correct. But it doesn't look like Videl.
Danny Kelly
No, it's like Vidal. But I remember saying.
Danny Hypert
I know, but I'm pretty sure you're right High Fitz. At least what I was seeing on the Internet. But it, it, it bothers me that it's Vidal. So there's that.
Danny Kelly
Well, I said, I don't know if.
Danny Hypert
That means anything to you, but in terms of if you're gonna, you know, try and waiver.
Craig Korlbeck
Thank you for letting us know.
Danny Kelly
Other running backs, if you're really down bad, I would just shout out. There's a whole class of guys now that are just kind of playing time that might get a job eventually that are just kind of dart throws if you're really down bad. But like a Kyle Manon guy for the Bears who I wonder if coming out of the buy, you know, he just is clearly the backup SW like Swift is not breaking tackles. And I think Kalmann guy is kind of more quote unquote in between the tackles like north south guy. And I kind of wonder if he gets a larger role as a rookie going forward. Kendrick Miller for the Saints of just. He's just playing a lot. He got just playing a lot for the Saints. And Camara I do think is what.
Danny Hypert
If Camara gets traded?
Danny Kelly
Camara is more present in past and Kendrick Miller for is more part of the future of the team.
Craig Korlbeck
He looks good too. They're like it's becoming more of a split.
Danny Kelly
It's almost like when the head coach doesn't literally hate his guts and try to put him on injured reserve at a spite, the catchy Miller thrives. So there's guys like I know Isaiah Davis on the jets, but we're just. Braylon Allen's out two to three months, so he's the backup. But those guys honestly are guys we could have recommended. But now that there's not a feeding frenzy. But there's like new life here. So yeah, Haskins and Videl are definitely the guys. Even though again, they might suck. But all these guys might suck. We're going to keep rolling here, but first, this episode is brought to you by ikea. When you're hosting on game day and it comes to cooking, you want a kitchen that everyone there will be a fan of. No matter what your kitchen dreams are, IKEA has products and solutions to help. From kitchen remodels to smart new cutlery. Whatever the size of your kitchen dream and budget, you can bring it to life with high quality, expertly designed and innovative products from IKEA. Visit IKEA US DreamKitchen to learn more. Dream the possibilities.
Craig Korlbeck
You crushed that, Reid. Nice job.
Danny Kelly
Wow. Thanks, Craig. Appreciate that.
Craig Korlbeck
That was really smooth. That felt good.
Danny Kelly
I thought I said dream well, expertly. I expertly is a word I can say really well.
Craig Korlbeck
It was good. It had good cadence, good pace, good pronunciation.
Danny Kelly
That's right. Appreciate it.
Danny Hypert
Just gassing him up, you know what.
Danny Kelly
With good cadence receivers. I actually said that because I'm transition.
Craig Korlbeck
Not as clean.
Danny Kelly
No, not as you know, she stole the brain power in the ad man. Look, what can you say? I was staring at Eli gave you menorah for the Titans and I was like he has good cadence. But yeah, receivers weird because not frankly the guys who popped the roster. I don't know how to say it. People. Like there isn't some magic gem guy who popped this week that's like he's super available. It's kind of a bunch of guys who probably talked about split. That said DK like of this usual cast of characters, if anyone at receiver, you would if you need to like kind of play this week.
Danny Hypert
Going, going back to the well with Kendrick bourne for the 49ers. John Jennings is banged up, multiple injuries. Ricky Piersol has a knee injury. I think they're gonna probably play it safe a little bit with him. And Purdy is also banged up with multiple injuries. So Mac Jones might just be the starter for the next couple of weeks. We'll see. Obviously this is a little bit speculative, but Jones. Mac Jones has good chemistry with Bourne. He came in had 11 targets in this game on Thursday night.
Craig Korlbeck
He was incredible.
Danny Hypert
We didn't fight that game.
Craig Korlbeck
That game was unbelievable.
Danny Kelly
Too bad. We did. It's really simple. Kendrick Bourne was really good for Kyle Shanan in San Francisco for four years. He was the Juwan Jennings before Jennings. He was the third down guy for the Bourne for that first super bowl run they made. Then Kendrick Bourne went and played for Mac Jones. Played with Mac Jones in the patriots. So it's kind of like Thursday night. Hey, Pearsall's out. Jennings is out. None of these guys have ever caught passes from the niners from Purdy, But Mac Jones is playing and it's like, well, hey, one guy knows the offense and the quarterback, and so he got all the targets. So. I agree.
Danny Hypert
Craig speaking. Speaking of like Ricky or not Ricky. Rico Dowdle. Like feeling. Feeling yourself for starting a guy, even though it's very scary. I started born in two leagues, two of my redraft leagues.
Craig Korlbeck
I started him as well. Like a kid.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
I started Mac Jones. I can't be killed.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. I'll never die.
Danny Hypert
I'm just going back to well with him. I think.
Danny Kelly
If Ricky plays, would you play him?
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah. If one of the two.
Danny Hypert
One of the two plays, I'm still comfortable playing him. If both Pearsall and Jennings are playing, I'll probably not be starting him. And then I'll have to, like, look elsewhere.
Danny Kelly
I agree with that, Craig.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, I do too. So how does that work? It's like a. Because they're playing the bucks. Like, can we say Kendrick Bourne? If. If only one of the two receivers return and if not, we pick a different guy.
Danny Kelly
Well, I think you gotta add it.
Danny Hypert
We have to. You have to make a choice. I think we say pick him up because if either of those guys sit, if Jennings or Pierce, I'll sit also.
Danny Kelly
The other guys are gonna get hurt again.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, pick him up. Just be careful about whether you start him. But I think you want to prioritize him on the waiver.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, Yeah, I think I'm. I'm comfortable doing that. The second guy, I. Well, I guess we'll get to it. After trivia. You want to do Kendrick Bourne?
Danny Kelly
I think Kendrick born. Yeah. Showdown time. Yeah. Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
All right. It is the Kendrick born showdown time. Bang. Love that gong.
Danny Kelly
It's all I got, man. This email's from Will William.
Danny Hypert
Willie W. Bone.
Danny Kelly
Will says for breakfast had three scrambled eggs and a Keurig cup of coffee without milk.
Danny Hypert
Three scrambled eggs.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hypert
Straight, straight protein.
Danny Kelly
Will says, I feel like you guys Would love fat bear week. I'm always surprised you've never talked about fair fat bear week on the show ever. Craig looks positive.
Danny Hypert
Oh, I was really into fat bear week for a while.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know what that is.
Danny Kelly
Bear week, so. Well, we'll include it.
Danny Hypert
It's live cams, Craig. Watch the bears.
Craig Korlbeck
It's live cams before can girls say that was something else.
Danny Kelly
It's only bears.
Craig Korlbeck
So is it on Omegle, where do.
Danny Kelly
You watch Omega threes? More like because they're eating fish, baby. So the official fat bear week website says vote for the fattest bear of the year. Some of the largest brown bears on earth. How have you never heard of this? What are some of the largest brown bears on earth? Make their home at Brooks river in Katmai National Park, Alaska. Brown bears get fat to survive for the winter. And fat bear week is an annual tournament celebrating their success in preparation for hibernation. It's a single elimination tournament. The matchups are open for voting. And each matchup you watch the live cams of the bears eating salmon and being fat. And you vote for the bear that you believe best exemplifies fatness and success in brown bears. And the bear with the most votes advances to the next round. Only one bear will be crowned Fat Bear week champion.
Craig Korlbeck
And so you just watch the bears and vote on who you think kind of looks the fattest.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it's incredible. They're huge. They're chunky. It's unbelievable.
Danny Hypert
What a science.
Danny Kelly
Crazy because they just. There's so much salmon swimming up the river, they just kind of walk in, they just kind of pluck one eat.
Danny Hypert
These salmon just hop into their mouths.
Danny Kelly
Crazy.
Craig Korlbeck
Except when I was in Canada, I went fly fishing. Didn't catch one fucking salmon.
Danny Hypert
Well, you're not a bear, but that's.
Danny Kelly
Why you're so skinny. Probably because you probably can't fish where all the bears are just like pounding salmon.
Craig Korlbeck
Seems I was afraid that I was going to run into a bear, but there was no salmon in the water, so maybe they didn't. They weren't interested.
Danny Hypert
I think the bears, the bears that are fishing there are not really as interested in humans because just so much too good. The salmon's just like I could just eat a salmon.
Danny Kelly
So anyway, the que will's question is last year Grazer beat out her rival Chunk. The trivia question is how much did Chunk weigh in pounds?
Danny Hypert
Chunk lost.
Danny Kelly
Chunk lost.
Danny Hypert
Grazer.
Craig Korlbeck
Grazer doesn't sound like a fat bear.
Danny Kelly
No, that's a good point. But the Fat Bear week is unbelievable. You see the photos of these guys?
Craig Korlbeck
No. Where do you. Wait, so where do you watch this?
Danny Hypert
There's like live cams. Craig, Google Fat Bear Week.
Craig Korlbeck
But live cams where the national on.
Danny Kelly
The river sets them up like they.
Craig Korlbeck
Have on their website or something.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, yeah, it's on YouTube.
Danny Kelly
On the Internet. Videos.
Danny Hypert
How do you download onto your iPad?
Craig Korlbeck
Well, I didn't know if it was like. Like you could like. I don't know, it was on TV or something like Shark Week. I didn't know how popular.
Danny Hypert
I think they're on YouTube. It's on YouTube videos, live streams.
Danny Kelly
I have before.
Danny Hypert
I. I used to put these on in the background when I was working. It's actually very fun.
Danny Kelly
Fat Bear Week's amazing. Anyway, so how. How big is Chunky? I'm not gonna lie. I. I made my guess already when I read this email. So I will.
Craig Korlbeck
How fat was Chunk? I kind of don't have the best frame of reference for how heavy bears are.
Danny Hypert
I don't either.
Craig Korlbeck
Gotta spend a lot of time out in the bears. These are brown bears you said?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, brown bears. Get it. All right. Get a number. Come on. How long will you spend on this?
Craig Korlbeck
All right, all right.
Danny Kelly
Three, two, one. 800.
Craig Korlbeck
1500 pounds.
Danny Hypert
Okay. I said. I said 15. Craig said 12. What do you say? High bits.
Danny Kelly
I said 800. I'm probably get the 1200 pounds. Once again, the person who knows the least will always do the best. Craig's never heard of Fat Bear week and gets into the number. Unbelievable.
Danny Hypert
1200 pound bears.
Danny Kelly
Dude.
Danny Hypert
That's Lordy bear.
Craig Korlbeck
That's a tremendous looking bear he got there.
Danny Kelly
Feel like I'd be more afraid of a skinny bear because that bear's hungry.
Danny Hypert
Feel like bears are one of the coolest animals out there.
Craig Korlbeck
Are crazy hairless Barrett.
Danny Kelly
Faster than horses. Short distances. Anyway, Craig, you get. Who are we talking about? Oh, Kendrick, Bore and Dika. Who do you get when.
Danny Hypert
Damn. This is a bad beat. Because there's not a lot of great options here. Let's see. We talked about Ryan Flower. No. Last night. The Cowboys with CD out for a while. He's an option. Six catches last week for 114 yards. Alec Pierce is another option. I guess I'll go with Flower noise. But I don't feel great about it.
Danny Kelly
You go Flower. Like a Troy Franklin over aml. You know how I feel about raiders.
Craig Korlbeck
He won't touch a bronco.
Danny Hypert
Troy Franklin is probably the more rational choice here. But again, I don't want to Play whack a mole with the fucking Broncos every week. I'm just like not interested in Trey Franklin at all. Even though he did get eight targets this last week. So he's probably the rational choice. My irrational brain doesn't want to have to deal with Sean Payton every week, so I'm staying away.
Danny Kelly
Fair enough. I respect everyone's right to be a rational, but there's not a lot of.
Danny Hypert
There are no other obvious and you.
Danny Kelly
Probably don't need one necessarily because again, it's like who's on? I think there's more. I mean, maybe you don't have to plug and play these guys, but I will say Troy Franklin for the Broncos. I would take him. The Broncos are facing the Jets. Aaron Glenn played for Sean Payton as a, as a player coach for Sean Payton. I kind of think Sean Payton could really rock that defense. So we shall see. You know, Romeo Dubs, I feel like I would take him, but I feel like he might not be available. I do want to bring him up just because he might have gotten cut because the packers were on by. I would probably.
Danny Hypert
He would be my top choice here even, even over 100%.
Craig Korlbeck
He had 50 roster, but if he's there, get him first.
Danny Kelly
He had three touchdowns for stalls. I want to mention him because he's roster a lot, but the odds that someone cut him are solid because again, they were on buy. So if he's available, I would take him. The other people want to shout out who had their injured reserve practice windows open, which is complicated now. But basically it means they get to be activated at some point the next three weeks. But even then it's like they could be two to three weeks away from returning and then ramped up. But Jalen Coker for the Panthers, who is good and so good that the Panthers traded away Adam Thielen to get Jalen Coker playing time that he got hurt within like 30 hours of that happening. So then Jalen Coker was in the reserve. I don't even think he's going to play this week. But if you have an IR slot and it's empty, I would put Jalen Coker directly. Like on Yahoo. You can put him directly into the IR spot actually from waivers. I would just do that because I think Jalen Coker could be like a real contributor down the second half. I'm not saying his first game back from injury reserves, you play him. I'm not saying that's even going to happen next week or two. But he's good. Christian Watson too. I don't know if Christian Watson's going to have any impact this season towards ACL late in the year. That's always bad. But I was surprised that the packers it seems like they're going to open his practice window up which again is a three week window for them activated and then he's going to have to play. But eventually Christian Watson's another example of Gaia. If you have an IR spot that happens to be empty and you're looking at receivers and buys coming up like you but also I don't think Watson or Goker are playing soon so and I if the other person want to throw it if you're desperate Tory Horton for the Seahawks I think con all he does is catch touchdowns. I feel like that's a good example of a rookie receiver early in the season is whatever and then as the season goes and goes I wouldn't be shocked that Horton's good.
Craig Korlbeck
He looks good.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. DeAndre Hopkins if you're desperate and here's why the Ravens defense sucks and they're going to have to fucking throw and I know the Texans made the Ravens look bad but I will say they're going to have Cooper Rush going to have to throw some balls to DeAndre Hopkins at some point for if you're desperate for a touchdown. Because if we're talking about guys this deep, it's like a Hopkins, it's an Isaac Tesla. You're kind of just praying for a deep shot. I'm not saying you're there but if you're really in a deep league, nice shot. I know. I don't think so either. But I'm saying if you're really desperate, if you're really down bad and you're like Taekwond Thornton is gone. I would take Taekwond Thornton over these guys even with like one week away. You know what I mean? So with that said. Yeah. And then Luther Burden off the buy I think is an upside guy just if you want to pick, if you kind of want to cycle through like what happens out of the bye week you could go back to cutting Luther Burden. But out of the Bears buy it's similar to Kyle Manon guy for me where it's like I want to see what Ben Johnson comes out of the buy with some rookies to the accelerate out of the buy or not.
Craig Korlbeck
We didn't mention Elick Eilman or on Tennessee who the Titans have been getting killed with their schedule. It's opening up now like they play the Raiders this week.
Danny Kelly
This is the Worst defense Tennessee will face all year.
Craig Korlbeck
We saw Calvin Ridley put up 130 yards. He's also pretty banged up. So it's like I am an OR versus the Raiders. You could do worse.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, yeah. Speaking of you could do worse tight ends, the actual theme of you could do worse, which is just every year with tight end, you could do worse. With that said DK, going into week six, who is the tight end you would add off of waivers this week if you need one?
Danny Hypert
Well, I think obviously if Darren Waller is out there, he's probably not. He's rostered in a lot of leagues.
Danny Kelly
If he's there, I would definitely get him. He's for sure.
Danny Hypert
Waller. Mason Taylor, rookie tight end for the jets, who was a guy that I highlighted a couple weeks ago as just someone to keep in mind because he's playing a ton of snaps. He's their starting tight end and he's out on the field and that's certainly something. And this last week he had 12 targets, nine catches, 67 yards plus a two two point conversion. He's one of. He's basically the number two receiver in this offense, unless you count Breeze Hall. But yeah, I think he's going to continue to improve. I think he looks good out there. Like he had made a couple of nice catches this last week. He is seventh in the NFL among tight ends in target. Target rate 19%. 19% target rate at tight end. The fact that that's out on the waiver wire is like pretty solid. So I would probably go with Mason Taylor.
Craig Korlbeck
I agree. I have Mason Taylor as well. I mean he's like playing a lot over 80% of snaps. The jets only have three players with over 150 receiving yards this year. It's Garrett Wilson, it's Breeze hall and it's Mason Taylor. Yeah, they're playing the Bron this week. You know, Pat Certain is probably going to be on Garrett Wilson. We saw the Eagles just play the Broncos and Dallas Goddard had a season high nine targets. So I think short term Mason Taylor is a play this week. If you have guys on by or, or beat up, like if you have Brock Bowers or something like that. And I think long term, I think Mason Taylor's good and he's quietly been playing just a ton for a rookie tight end out the gate. I know hypit is anti jets, you're probably not going to go.
Danny Kelly
It's a great. I think my cousin Vinnie Mr. Gambini. That's a lucid, reasoned, well thought out argument. Overruled I. I'm just like, I respect that. But the way DK can be over, like irrational about the Broncos, I've just seen too much of the Jets. I've just seen the jets passing game. I've seen the vibes and I can't on if I'm gonna lose on a Sunday. I can't lose because I had a rookie tight end on and I'm counting on Justin Fields to complete passes to him. So I actually have Mason Taylor, like third. And I actually think if I actually need someone this week, I'd put him fourth among the guy. Having said that, mine's also ridiculous. I kind of just keep wonder I'm between Taysom Hill and AJ Barner. And honestly, I kind of keep think it's Taysom Hill, which is, I understand ridiculous, but I would probably know because one, I'm an addict.
Danny Hypert
I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna talk poorly about that. Love me some Taysom Hill.
Danny Kelly
It's funny, I.
Danny Hypert
He threw a pass in this last dude.
Danny Kelly
Taysom Hill. There really is no. Honestly, the only comp to Taysom hill In the 21st century, I think is like Tim Tebow because Taysom Hill, 35 years old, coming off a torn ACL, first game off IR, plays nine snaps on offense, lines up at quarterback on like six of them, gets six carries, gains, no yardage, which I admit it's negative one. In fact, he lost a yard, which generally that is bad. And I admit that. However, all these guys, all these tight ends, what are we happy with? 40 yards in a touchdown. Right.
Danny Hypert
All these guys were like five catches for 30 yards.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. And I'm like, okay, hoping for we're all playing touchdown roulette with these guys. Anyway, I would like the guy that even in his first game back in limited snaps, they lined him up at quarterback six times and he got six carries and he threw a 19 yard pass. And I'm like, if I'm going to play the touchdown roulette, I would like the guy that even the new coach is giving taste all these packages. I acknowledge that he's as likely as any of these guys to get zero points, but I'm kind of like, he's the only one that's going to get you 30. And so I like that idea. I understand a more rational argument and I would take him over. Mason Taylor too. Is A.J. barner for the Seahawks. I'm surprised, DK, that you didn't take A.J. barner. It's a thin line between playing whack a mole and being like, well, he had two touchdowns, so I'll get him and then you just count on that happening again. That's dumb. Having said that, having seen what I've seen from the Seahawks offense, moving the ball and Sam Darnold, and frankly, Darnold takes shots. Darnold gives guys shots. And I kind of think Darnold trust AJ Barner, and I just would rather bet on a guy who's clearly going to be playing for the Seahawks offense than the jets offense. If we're talking about passing and points and touchdowns and yards.
Craig Korlbeck
You mentioned playing. The only problem with AJ Barnard is he doesn't play that much. He's only out there for like two thirds of the passing attacks. That's the only downside is he really doesn't play a whole lot.
Danny Kelly
I just could, I really just would. He also. He leads the teams in touchdowns. And I know that's dumb, but last year, how many times we're like, well, Zach Ertz, he can't keep doing this. At some point, there's a dynamic between players and I just don't.
Danny Hypert
They definitely use him in the, in the red zone. He's like a big, strong, you know, and they use him in a lot of situations where they're running and running play action. So that's like he's been kind of a leak guy or whatever, like coming out on the backside or in the flats and kind of giving Sam Darnold an option. He actually is third in the NFL among tight ends and red zone targets with five. But yeah, 12% target rate not going to be consistent. Like Craig said, he's not playing a ton. It's just like, you know, he could go out next week and have zero catches and it wouldn't be very surprising at all. But I do like it. I think he's a good player and the Seahawks really like him. They're using him especially in the red zone. And I think obviously he has some chemistry with Sam Darnold. So I don't like, hate this. I think with any of these guys you are desperate, hoping for a touchdown.
Danny Kelly
That's the thing. It's desperate. It's totally desperate.
Danny Hypert
I would probably go with the guy who had 12 targets though, personally. But I understand where you're coming from.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, I just. The jets, it's. It's just desperation, though. I just, I'm sorry. It's just garbage time. And I'm like, they can't move.
Danny Hypert
He's a high second rounder, or at least he was a middle second rounder.
Danny Kelly
You're right again. You guys are probably right. I am being irrational. I want to be clear about this. You're probably right. You should probably take. Because again, it's the combo. If he could do something this week, but there's more of a Runway for the rest of the season. That's why I would take him over. Like Jake Tonjas where I'm like, if you have George Kittle, I actually think at this point, just add Jake Tonjas for the Niners. I really do.
Danny Hypert
Tonsis.
Danny Kelly
I don't know how to say his name. I don't know. I kind of just. They're playing Niners are playing the Bucks this week and I'm like, I just saw A.J. barner catch two touchdowns against the Bucks and darn, did they have five straight touchdown drives versus the Bucks. I'm kind of like, Shannon, it's 10 days to prep for this Bucks defense. And I'm like, if you have Kittle and you're waiting for Kittle to come back, just freaking add taunt. If you don't have him already, just get Tonsis. I get that. It was like he had never caught a pass before and like he's clearly just part of the offense and he's as good of a bet to just score a touchdown this week as anyone. Obviously, when Kittle comes back, he's toast. But if you have Kittle and you're kind of like screwed or if you have Bowers, I'm like, just. Just do it, man. But I understand, like Mason Taylor, all those guys who have longer runways are way better.
Craig Korlbeck
So let's do trivia. DK and I will battle it out for Mason Taylor and High Fitz. You're just along for the ride.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that's. Well, I mean, look, you guys are taking a very highly drafted second rounder at LSU is playing all the time and I have a 35 year old positionless man coming off an ACL tear. So tomato, tomato.
Craig Korlbeck
All right. Is the Mason Taylor just for me and dk, but Hypitz is here too. Showdown time.
Danny Kelly
This is from Dusty.
Craig Korlbeck
Dusty, man. The name Dusty makes me. Oh, no, it's Rusty. I thought of Rusty. Ocean's Eleven. Did you hear that? Ocean's Fourteen is happening.
Danny Hypert
Really?
Craig Korlbeck
Yes.
Danny Kelly
Well, do we do this now or do this at the end of the show? I have so many questions.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know. I don't have the answers to those questions. I'm not making the movie, but I just.
Danny Kelly
How did you feel about. Well, you know, is there a trailer?
Danny Hypert
I don't have the Answer.
Craig Korlbeck
No, no, no. They haven't even started shooting yet.
Danny Kelly
Is Brad Pitt and Clooney and everyone in it. Damon?
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah. The people who are alive, I believe, are returning.
Danny Kelly
Oh, my God. Oh, because Saul passed away, right?
Craig Korlbeck
A couple. Is Saul. You talking about Carl Reiner?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
Is there somebody else who's not around?
Danny Kelly
Oh, Andy Garcia.
Craig Korlbeck
No, no, he's alive.
Danny Kelly
He's alive, right? Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
Also, he's not one of the.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, good, though.
Danny Kelly
He did a good job.
Danny Hypert
Do you need one more? He kind of was on their side a little bit there in the end.
Danny Kelly
Spoilers.
Danny Hypert
Well, anyway.
Craig Korlbeck
All right, it's 10 year old.
Danny Kelly
It was Dustin.
Craig Korlbeck
1025.
Danny Hypert
When was Ocean?
Craig Korlbeck
It's like 01 or something.
Danny Hypert
Okay, wait, Ocean's 13 was.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, I think 11.
Danny Kelly
Oh, yeah, fair enough. Anyway, this was dusty.
Danny Hypert
13 was 2007, so it's still very long time ago.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, 18 years ago. God, that's horrible.
Danny Kelly
That's 18 years ago. I know. I feel old. Anyways, from Dusty.
Craig Korlbeck
All right, wait. So anyway, Dusty, what's up?
Danny Kelly
So I was listening to your Sunday night recap show while riding my bike to work this morning, and when you mentioned Wahoo McDaniel on the 1959 Sooners, I had my ghost screaming at the podcast moment. Because I immediately said to no one, I know him. And the reason I know Wahoo McDaniel is I love pro wrestling. And while I knew Wahoo McDaniel played college and professional football, I know Wahoo McDaniel is a popular wrestler for the AWA and NWA, where Wahoo McDaniel held the NWA United States Championship five times.
Danny Hypert
Of course he did.
Danny Kelly
Which a lot of people hit us up with this. So my trivia question is, this is from Dusty. If you combine all five of Wahoo McDaniel's championship reigns, how many combined days was Wahoo the US champion?
Danny Hypert
So he was the champion five times.
Danny Kelly
Five times. So how many days did he spend as the champ combined?
Danny Hypert
I have no idea how wrestling championships work.
Danny Kelly
I, I. Wrestling is a massive blind spot for me.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
How many?
Craig Korlbeck
I have no idea, but I can come up with a number. Let's do it.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. All right. 3, 2, 1. 5.
Craig Korlbeck
4. 20.
Danny Kelly
You said 420. 500.
Danny Hypert
I said a thousand. Probably gets too high.
Danny Kelly
The answer is 296. Did Craig sweep?
Craig Korlbeck
No. DK won the first one, but I did win two.
Danny Kelly
Yikes for me.
Craig Korlbeck
Alrighty.
Danny Kelly
Shout out Wahoo McDaniel.
Craig Korlbeck
Wahoo. That's a great name. What was his real name like?
Danny Kelly
Ed, I don't know.
Craig Korlbeck
Wahoo McDaniel. His name is Edward. Did you tell Edward?
Danny Hypert
Hugh.
Danny Kelly
Wait, did you just guess? His name is Ed and his name's Ed.
Craig Korlbeck
I swear on my life, I just guessed his name was Ed.
Danny Kelly
Are we in a simulation?
Danny Hypert
What is that is a very popular name hype. It's not like, crazy.
Craig Korlbeck
What do you mean? Ed is a popular name?
Danny Kelly
Unimpressed. He just guessed one name and then.
Craig Korlbeck
No, I'm not.
Danny Kelly
I'm not.
Danny Hypert
Not impressed. You're just.
Craig Korlbeck
You're acting like common names out there.
Danny Hypert
You're acting like he guessed like some like, really specific thing.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know, man.
Danny Kelly
I feel like I'm being gaslit now.
Craig Korlbeck
I'm like.
Danny Kelly
I'm like amazed by that. What's his name? Ed. I'm impressed, Ed.
Danny Hypert
I'm not gonna have an aneurysm, like Hyphens, but there's 200 names.
Craig Korlbeck
Like, I basically, if somebody just said like, hey, that guy over there. What's his name? I got it right.
Danny Kelly
That's great.
Danny Hypert
You did a great job, Craig. Ed is like one of the first, like five names.
Danny Kelly
I probably. This is how I know. Yeah.
Danny Hypert
In this time era.
Craig Korlbeck
All right, Frank.
Danny Kelly
Craig. This isn't about Ed.
Craig Korlbeck
I love shitting on me getting Ed.
Danny Kelly
It's because I'm not even shitting on Craig.
Danny Hypert
I'm shitting on Heifetz. Because he's like, fucking blow.
Craig Korlbeck
His mind is.
Danny Hypert
Was blown.
Danny Kelly
He's mad that I was excited. Well, you're being a young joker. That's what it is.
Danny Hypert
Okay, go ahead and continue.
Craig Korlbeck
Damn, dude, that was crazy.
Danny Kelly
No, it wasn't. Craig. Actually, it was super normal. It's super normal to guess people's Daves.
Craig Korlbeck
His trainer's name was Dory Funk.
Danny Kelly
I was gonna say that.
Danny Hypert
If you would have gotten that, I would have my pants.
Craig Korlbeck
Whose first name was Dorrance, which I did not know was a name.
Danny Hypert
Doran.
Danny Kelly
Dorrance Armstrong.
Craig Korlbeck
Dorrance Washington. Yeah. You don't hear a lot about Dorrance anymore.
Danny Hypert
Dory Funk, Senior.
Craig Korlbeck
Dk. If you have a second kid, will you go Dorrance?
Danny Hypert
No, I'll go Ed.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hypert
That was my grandfather.
Danny Kelly
No one will need to know his name. Everyone will just know it's egg. Anyway, so who. Who wins this? Craig wins. So you get.
Craig Korlbeck
I'll get Mason.
Danny Kelly
Mason Taylor. And then I get.
Craig Korlbeck
So dk, I would say. Does DK have the option to take he's guy here? Like, who has priority now?
Danny Kelly
No, we. We've done this a thousand times. It's like waivers if you submit a waiver claim for.
Craig Korlbeck
Right, right.
Danny Kelly
So I get Taysom and DK submitted. Now you get to. Honestly, are you. I'm curious. Do you come around, take AJ Barner, dk. There's a few other guys.
Danny Hypert
But yeah, Barner or I mean Harold Fannin is still out there for the Browns. He hasn't really done a whole lot lately, but he did have six targets last week. He's playing a bunch of.
Danny Kelly
I'm not gonna lie, Barner. Literally. I'm in 10 leagues. Every league I'm in Fan is rostered. I would take fan. Yeah.
Danny Hypert
Okay, 27 on Yahoo. What can I tell you? I'll go with Barner.
Danny Kelly
Would you take.
Craig Korlbeck
Tensions are high today.
Danny Kelly
I can tell.
Danny Hypert
This is. This is like a thing that goes back to last year. Hyphens just arbitrarily decides who's on.
Craig Korlbeck
It's a little anecdotal. Well, my league he's taken like.
Danny Hypert
Well, okay. I'm sorry. It's at 27% on.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that's an interesting question. Going by the numbers, would you. You guys would take Mason Taylor over Fannin though?
Danny Hypert
I would, yes.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, I would. I think Fannin was kind of the classic. Everybody freaked out after week one. Then you did.
Danny Hypert
He pulled a likely.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. Interesting. Okay. The. So you're taking Fanon?
Danny Hypert
No, I'm taking Barner.
Craig Korlbeck
Hi Fitz. Would you take Taysum Hill over Fannin?
Danny Kelly
It's funny because in exact opposite ways I think of them similarly, which is the upside is so much higher than most of these guys. To be fair, I'm probably underrated. Mason Taylor probably also has a ton of upside because he's a high second round pick on a team that's playing a lot. He also has upside just in a very traditional way. Fannin's like a receiver that's just playing. But it's the Browns. So what are you going to bank on it's the Browns and then taste him is upside in a peerless kind of way. But I'm kind of like, if you can, you're going to scrape by. I just want ceiling. That's kind of my issue with Theo Johnson and the Giants, who also had two touchdowns this week. And I'm like, I think when neighbors.
Danny Hypert
Three touchdowns in the last two weeks.
Craig Korlbeck
He leads the NFL and red zone targets.
Danny Kelly
And that's the thing. Sometimes when like receiver gets hurt, we're like, what other receivers will benefit? I'm like, they're probably just going to play two more. Two tight end sets. Sometimes And I think that's what the Giants are doing with Bellinger and Theo Johnson. So Theo Johnson's going to get a lot of end zone looks. I'm like, who's going to be in the end zone more though? I'm like a little nervous about counting on the Jackson dart Giants with even Darius Slayton now being banged up. The idea and its neighbors gone that like Theo Johnson will keep getting it but. But he's also a perfectly reasonable dart threat, so to speak, for Theo Johnson to give touchdown. But I think the theme is if you have George Kittle specifically, I like Jake Tonjas just because I think he will actually be pretty good until Kittle plays. And that works for you. Everyone else, I think you probably want more of a season long option and Yeah, I think so. Okay, so dk, you're getting Fanon. No. You're taking a itchy borner. Sorry, I just.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, but I do like Fanon too. Either one is kind of just a dart throw, but yeah, yeah, Fanon I.
Danny Kelly
Like because if David and Joker gets traded, I think that Harold at the deadline, Harold Fanon would be like crazy high up. That's what I'm. That's what I'm thinking about Fanon.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
And if not, he's like every other tight end on waivers. Okay.
Danny Hypert
I, I'll be honest. Like, I'm. I'm so hoping Fanon kind of breaks out and does his thing. But yeah, like Craig said, it's not looking so good. He kind of pulled a. A likely. And Njoku is playing a ton still.
Danny Kelly
The difference to me is likely. It took him like three years to have that big week one and Fanon did it just immediately. And I'm like, that kind of does mean something.
Danny Hypert
I think Fanon is good for what it's worth. Like he, he looks the part to me. He's a good, A good body control, really good catches with his hands like, can extend to make catches and keep running. I think he's going to be a very good player. It's just right now it's kind of hit or miss. But also, we didn't really talk about this, but Dylan Gabriel looked pretty solid for the Browns.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, I kind of think Dylan Gabriel, I mean, look, it's not controversial, but like his third round pick. I think Dylan Gabriel could absolutely eke out like an NFL career as somewhere between like probably one of the league's more competent backups to a service. I don't know if anyone's. I don't know if he's going to be like, happy as the Browns franchise quarterback. I kind of wouldn't be shocked if. I'm not saying he definitely will be. I wouldn't be shocked if Gabriel's just the quarterback going to Cleveland next season. And it's like everyone's like, yeah, no, I kind of like him. He's fine. And he becomes like a bad Kirk Cousins.
Danny Hypert
He's small, like in the rattler. Rattler area.
Danny Kelly
He can execute it. However. It's one of those things you talk about and then you're like, wow, this is just because Cleveland. It's. That the floor is so low and it's so pathetic that it's like they got through 41 quarterbacks and you're like, this guy will do. But it's.
Craig Korlbeck
I know.
Danny Kelly
It's just been so bad that we're talking ourselves into it.
Craig Korlbeck
If, like you said, I have. If. If we go into next season and the Browns are just like, yeah, we're gonna go with Dylan Gabriel, that's. That's depressing.
Danny Kelly
I think. I think he can execute the offense, but. But the. The ceiling is. Is very low.
Craig Korlbeck
Like, if the idea is that he can become Brock Purdy, I mean, sure, but we would need to see a lot, I feel like in the next two months for people to feel comfortable with him. That's a good starter next year.
Danny Kelly
That's a good segue. Because if I talk about fantasy defenses for a moment, I would suggest first the Pittsburgh Steelers because they're rostered in a lot of leagues, but also because they were on by, I think, no matter what. Check. Cause sometimes people do cut good defenses on by no matter what. And so the. These are very high roster defenses. But the Steelers versus the Browns, Dylan Gabriel in Pittsburgh next week is a different thing. And I just, you know, T.J. watt, Dylan Gabriel, like, it's worth trying. So if he's available, the other team that is very high rostered, but you never know. Coming off a bite, the Green Bay Packers. We're playing the Bengals. Don't need to explain. The Bengals offense has looked horrible. Minus garbage time. Versus the Lions, they'd go 28 to 3. They were down. Packers coming off a buy another roster. But if the packers are available versus the Bengals, those are two unbelievable options. And the Rams versus the Ravens, which is also self explanatory. If the Rams defense is available for whatever reason, obviously the Ravens look, as Craig said yesterday, like, honestly, kind of like the worst two or three teams in football.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
If none of those teams are available, I would say the Patriots Versus the Saints variable. And I just really can't say enough about variables. Week to week game planning. I think it's the best in the league by a lot. And if he beat the Bills and Josh Allen, I really do think the Pats could kind of put the Spencer Rattler offense in its place. So I actually kind of like the Patriots defense. Even though maybe statistically there's some questions, but I think that variable will really be able to limit the Saints. Titans are playing the Raiders. It's just Geno Smith leads the league in picks and Titans defense. I know it's tough to pick a Titans team where the offense puts them in such bad spots, but if you do want to pick six potential on a random defense, which happens every week, the Titans are there. Colts vs. The Cardinals, which is just. Just Colts defense is kind of awesome, man. Like Lou and Aruma. What the Colts are doing, the culture actually doing some really cool stuff. And the Colts defense is legit.
Danny Hypert
Cardinals are prone to wacky stuff.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. So the obvious ones are Rams, Packers, Steelers because of the matchups. But if they're not available, Patriots, Titans, Colts. I hope one of those teams will be available for you. Yeah. All right. And then quarterback, really quick. I don't know how many people need a quarterback, but I mean, Jackson Dart, if he's there. And the other one I'd say is Bryce Young, which is. God gives me the heebie jeebies. But if you're desperate, you're desperate. But they're playing Dallas and Dallas is certainly going to put up points on. On. On Panthers. So it's kind of. Even if the Panthers have no points through 40 minutes, I kind of still think Bryce Young could still have a great fantasy performance. And again, I know I'm recommending Bryce Young, but you're desperate enough to consider it. So I think Dart and Bryce Young are the two guys that I would throw.
Craig Korlbeck
I mean, also Mac Jones, dude.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
If Mac Jones is available. Yes.
Craig Korlbeck
I mean, he's 4% rostered. If they're. I mean, he's been very good the games he's played. Like he had 22 points last week. He's had two games of 20 or more points this year already. Like they're playing the Bucks.
Danny Kelly
I know it sounds like a hot take, but we talked about this at the time with quarterback nature versus nurture. I really do believe Mac Jones would have had an alternate universe career if the Niners had just taken him or whatever in that draft. If the Niners had just not traded up and had two Extra first rounders they had used and just had Mac Jones and stuck Pat and took him. I think Mac Jones would have been what we now think of as Brock Purdy.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, that sliding door is, is wild to think about.
Danny Kelly
Well, it's kind of like if Mahomes went to the Bears and sucked because they would have played him immediately and not been coached by Andy Reid and Mahomes sucked and like washed out and we'd be like, oh, can't believe you took him. Third, imagine if I told you there was this alternate universe where Patrick Mahomes was like the bet, literally Tom Brady's heir. I kind of think Mac Jones would have won two Super Bowls by now if they had just taken them.
Craig Korlbeck
I wonder how likely it is that let's say Purdy's pretty banged up all year and Mac Jones has like a pretty solid season. If he signs a decent contract, like a one year contract somewhere it goes and actually play like he goes to the Browns or something and plays well and just kind of revives his career and goes to the right team in the right system.
Danny Kelly
Can I throw out a team? Minnesota Vikings. I, I letting Darnold. If McCarthy doesn't pan out, and again, he has years to pan out as we're seeing like quarterbacks take time. If McCarthy sucks though, all time letting Darnold go is going to like, it's maybe haunts Minnesota forever.
Danny Hypert
Forever.
Danny Kelly
All right. Maybe forever's a lot dramatic.
Danny Hypert
No, I, I've been thinking about that too a lot. The last few weeks is like, how much Minnesota is like, fuck, we should have resigned.
Craig Korlbeck
Sam.
Danny Hypert
Obviously they had a plan.
Craig Korlbeck
It was such a difficult injury.
Danny Kelly
It's easy to revision his history. It was, that was a very difficult thing. We took a first round quarterback. The bridge guy's great. You pay him 35 to stay. You know what I mean? It's tough. And he might not have taken the same money because he wants to play.
Danny Hypert
Right? Right.
Danny Kelly
You don't pay him to maybe not.
Craig Korlbeck
Play those last two games. I think made it a little bit easier at least for the Minnesota front office to, to kind of justify the decision. Yeah, because if Darnold had played well and they went to like the NFC Championship and almost made the super bowl or something like that. And it wasn't Darnold's fault.
Danny Kelly
And this is, you know what a good example this is too, the Daniel Jones thing with the Giants. Did you guys and everyone in the world not make fun of the Giants relentlessly for giving him the contract? Imagine for a moment if The Giants did not let him walk, and he went to the Colts and played like this. What the fuck would everyone be saying about the Giants letting Daniel Jones go? It's easy to criticize, but like a lot of things, a lot, there's always more possibilities than you think.
Craig Korlbeck
I do think the statistical nature of Darnold's season last year, though, was much. It was just so much more spectacular than what Daniel Jones did. It felt like. It felt like day ball kind of like schemed up a playoff win in that season with Daniel Jones versus Darnold, who felt like even though he had on the system, like Darnold was fucking crushing it. He was like top five in, like, every passing metric.
Danny Kelly
Darnold's lows were lower than Joe. Well, maybe that's not even true, but Darnold. But the highs. Darnold, that always was a significantly better prospect with way more talent, obviously, than Jones. I mean, Jones was a stretch at six. Darnold was just. Always was a really toolsy guy.
Danny Hypert
So I think it's just really cool that all these guys are having kind of. It's second chances and second wins in their career. Like, Baker, like, Gino obviously is, like, not playing well this year, but Gino having a second life on his career has been awesome. Darnold, Daniel Jones, like, I'm happy for all these guys. It's good, and I think it's good for the league because the league needs quarterbacks. You know what I mean? And coming out, like, coming out of the draft, it's very hit or miss, especially with when you look at some of the college offenses and, like, the way that they're developing guys. So, yeah, if you look at some of the things that are happening in college football right now with transfer portal, and you can stay a little bit longer and things like that. And then in addition, like, teams seem more willing to give guys a second chance and kind of give them another shot at being starters. Like, it's. It's all good. The NFL needs more quarterbacks.
Craig Korlbeck
Honestly, the. The Aaron Rodgers revival. Right?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it's great. It's great. What's going on?
Craig Korlbeck
You know what I mean?
Danny Kelly
Okay, a couple of mills here.
Craig Korlbeck
You don't think he's revived?
Danny Kelly
Okay, we got. I keep asking the question, why can't punters kick and kickers punt? Like, what's going on?
Danny Hypert
Did we get an answer?
Danny Kelly
We do. We have an answer.
Danny Hypert
All right.
Danny Kelly
Basic answer and then a real answer. So one is from Eli. A lot of people emailed us, and I apologize. Emailed us this last year, Eli, it's E Pie. That's what Eli Manning's mom calls him. E. PI So a lot of people list this last year, but the answer of just the Colts kicker gets hurt. Why doesn't the punter kick? There is a short term answer, which is Eli writes, well, I sleep an extra 10 minutes instead of eating breakfast. So Eli doesn't eat breakfast.
Craig Korlbeck
Wow.
Danny Hypert
Efficient.
Danny Kelly
It's probably 22, right?
Craig Korlbeck
That feels like too young. People love breakfast, though.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, it's true.
Danny Kelly
You're growing.
Danny Hypert
Feel like sleeping an extra 10 minutes.
Craig Korlbeck
Older you get, I feel like the less likely you are to eat breakfast.
Danny Kelly
That's true.
Danny Hypert
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
So Eli writes, punters are typically the holder catching the ball from the long snapper. Placing it correctly takes a ton of practice. So they can't really have anyone else doing that if the punter's going to kick.
Danny Hypert
I mean, that, that was the, that was the reason that was given to us in the past. And I, I understand it, but I don't agree with it.
Danny Kelly
I, I just. It's one of those things.
Danny Hypert
Do more than one thing.
Danny Kelly
I, I know. It's one of those things.
Craig Korlbeck
You got to have a second holder, right?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, well, that's.
Danny Hypert
You have another guy that can do it.
Danny Kelly
But that doesn't answer the punter thing where the Raiders punter gets hurt, which again, we're seeing block kicks every week. The guy's leg gets hit and you get the ball and he gets injured. It's fine. So who's your holder? Like, you need a backup holder too. That's not really an answer. It's like, oh, so the punter got it. So that means the punter gets hurt. You can't punt or kick field goals. Like, you need a holder. Here's the real answer. Klis Klooie. Sorry, that was like a tongue twister. Chris Cluey.
Craig Korlbeck
Chris, yeah, Chris Cluey.
Danny Kelly
Chris Cluey, who was the punter for the Vikings for a long time now. He's kind of like an activist, but he does a lot on the Internet and he, he did a Reddit AMA and someone asked him this question and he gave an incredible answer. And so he said, there's two answers. He said, firstly, he starts the answer with, I feel like I have to answer this every couple months. Which, yeah, you know what you do. Sorry.
Craig Korlbeck
It's like the only thing he gets. It's like people seeing like Jason Alexander on the street, they're like, george, George, pick something else.
Danny Kelly
So he says, you don't see hybrid kickers and Punters. And you never will because of two reasons. I love it. You never will. Confident he says the MO1 just the motions interfere with each other. Kicking is a swivel motion in the hips. Punting's more straight on. If you mix them up. Yeah, he says if you mix them up.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't accept that answer.
Danny Kelly
I'm like I just watched Shohei Otani Strickland.
Danny Hypert
Please be able to do more than one thing.
Danny Kelly
Do two things.
Danny Hypert
That's all I ask what is a.
Craig Korlbeck
Swivel and one is straight.
Danny Kelly
So that's the thing. He said basically one of them athletes. Well that's the thing. So he says here's the real answer. Answer. This is more importantly, he says it's not physiologically possible to do that much kicking over a 21 week period. Now to be clear though, he's talking about being both on the same team. The question was could you be a kicker and a punter for the season? And his answer was the practice schedule is punt coverage. He says basically there's too much, there's no rest. And like you don't think of you pitchers obviously in baseball need to rest their arms. It's like kickers need to rest their legs and you don't think about it. We don't think about the special teams portion of practice. But his answer is practice schedule on Wednesdays is like punt coverage, punt return, field goals Thursday is kickoff, kickoff return, field goals Thursday, punt coverage, punt return are Friday. And notice how they stagger at kicking days by position and so that the kicker gets two days of rest for the game after kickoff day. So you're. And he says that is so your leg doesn't explode into a million billion tiny shards of red hot muscle agony. And our special teams coaches actually keep track of how many kicks we're taking throughout the week so we don't over kick an inch or something kind of like a pitch. And he says as it is already currently it's already a tight balancing act between getting enough reps for the coverage guys on special teams to practice versus us pulling a muscle so that they can get reps. That's already a balance. So adding in the practice time on your non specialty thing would be quite taxing on your leg. Now he's talking about that in the course of could you be bothered a kicker and a punter for the whole season. I still don't know why they can't do it in an emergency. Yeah right.
Danny Hypert
Practice during the off season then. I don't fucking care. But so that's this reminds me of like the 22. It's like the $5 billion plane that can't fly in the rain or something. It's like, come on, it's not practice in the off season then.
Danny Kelly
Does that satisfy you, Craig?
Craig Korlbeck
No. So I feel like. So half the problem is that these punters have to punt a lot so that the. The punt squad can like practice.
Danny Kelly
Well, yeah, they need reps and the punters punting, which again, that is funny to me. The what?
Craig Korlbeck
I feel like we could maybe make a lot of money if we just invented a machine that could like create a punt, a simulated punt.
Danny Kelly
They kind of have a punter here. They're like, just do that.
Craig Korlbeck
But I thought it was like, it's a. It's a. They fear that they are going to pull their muscle every week because they're having to kick so much in practice. Why don't they just use the machine that.
Danny Kelly
I don't know, man. I guess they want to practice against the real punter. I think if they're going to block a kick or whatever, they want to actually practice. But you don't want to touch them. I don't know. It's funny because I get. That's a good answer. About like, you need to rest. Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
Let me ask.
Danny Kelly
When the other kicker gets hurt, I. It's a catastrophe. They really. I guess, I guess what I'm surprised is I understand why a punter from 40 plus would be like, yeah, I kind of just surprised an NFL punter, which again, they're specialized and I understand specialties in the body is different. Having said that, all these guys are pretty confident. I'm kind of surprised a punter doesn't think he could make a 33 yard field goal.
Danny Hypert
Yeah, they're like, not even like letting them take extra points. Like the Colts had to go for two on every play. I mean, it was. It didn't matter in this game. That was the Colts, right?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, but the shoulder thing I get, but I'm like, so if the punter gets hurt, there's no field goals? Like who's the backup holder?
Craig Korlbeck
Well, I guess the calculus is like, what percentage field goals made would you have to like, what is the highest percent field goals made? Would you accept to not go for two every time? Like if you bring this punter in and he can hit like 60% of his 35 yard field goals, is that worth kicking in or should you just go for two?
Danny Kelly
But the irony is you should probably just go for two every time anyway.
Craig Korlbeck
Right. Like basically I would say because the kicker in theory makes like 100 of their extra points or whatever. So it's like the punter would have to be nails for you to not just go for two. So I guess might as well just go for two anyway.
Danny Kelly
Okay, fair enough. So that was the answer? Yeah, that was the answer.
Craig Korlbeck
Like, even if they're like 75% success rate on extra points, is that really worth it to like miss one of every four or just go for fucking two?
Danny Kelly
I guess not. It's almost like the other 32 teams have thought of this. But yeah.
Danny Hypert
Let'S not give them that much credit. But yes, I pro. You're probably right, but let's not like appeal to authority here. Teams do a lot of stupid shit.
Danny Kelly
Another email here. Andy just points out that. But I said Temu and Craig was like, it's Temu and it's. It is Temu.
Craig Korlbeck
Well, okay. Andy actually DM'd me or like mentioned me and said everyone's big take was there was an ad where they said temu and everyone's big takeaway was that, no, it's fucking temu. Like they own the company. Yeah, like, no, no, everyone agrees that it's temu except the company themselves. Like, everybody says temu.
Danny Kelly
That's tough for me because I want to be right. But I actually agree generally that I'm like, yeah, just if everyone says that, it's fine.
Danny Hypert
What does TEMU mean? What is it?
Danny Kelly
It's a company.
Danny Hypert
Is it short for something?
Danny Kelly
Oh, I don't know. It's an app that turned like the way that. Imagine the most like deep fried, crazy, brain rot style ads on the Internet and they were like, what if we just sold you actual products? That was. Everything we did was the most low hanging fruit ad possible.
Craig Korlbeck
But I don't know what, they made.
Danny Kelly
It like a slot machine. Machine.
Craig Korlbeck
But DK is asking, what does TEU actually mean?
Danny Kelly
Oh, the word. Yeah. Oh, I don't know.
Danny Hypert
Like, where'd they come up with this?
Craig Korlbeck
Like, is that an acronym? I don't know.
Danny Kelly
Well, it's a Chinese company, right?
Craig Korlbeck
Teemu.
Danny Kelly
I'm googling TEMU and Mandarin. It means. It doesn't mean anything.
Danny Hypert
All right, well that's cool.
Danny Kelly
Oh, it means team up price down. So it stands for team and it's not temu. That's a huge. What are they doing? What are they doing?
Danny Hypert
I feel like we just came up with the answer here.
Craig Korlbeck
What does it stand for? Wait, we said Team Up.
Danny Kelly
Gemini says that, but who knows?
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, their motto is Team up, price down.
Danny Kelly
Their motto is team up, price down.
Danny Hypert
But then team up temu.
Danny Kelly
That's a marketing team being like, guys, just call it tmu. I think it's Timodale. All right. Okay, last one here. I'm like uncomfortable even talking about this and I'm going to tell you right now, if you are listening and you don't want like a bunch of fart noises to play, I would just end the show. Just end the show.
Craig Korlbeck
A lot of like a handful of emails and people who have already made farter shout out.
Danny Kelly
I am one of these people myself and I'm physically uncomfortable with this, but I don't like listening to fart noises. It makes me more uncomfortable than funny. However, Craig asked the farter shart thing on Sunday should have like a 90s style radio intro. More people than I thought made one.
Craig Korlbeck
What's the one from Parks and Rec? It's like, damn it. You know. You guys watch Parks and Recruit?
Danny Hypert
I've watched some of it.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, there's like. Oh, there's the two, like shock jock guys and it's like stinky and the Douche or something and I can't.
Danny Kelly
I think they're inspired. Believe it or not, I had Carlos load these in. So this is. And again, if you don't listen to Sunday show for whatever reason, the farter shark is just. Is. Was this performance a fart? Which is. If you wait a little bit, it'll go away. Or is it a shark? Like a real situation?
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, I got it. It's Crazy Ira and the Douche. Crazy.
Danny Kelly
That's incredible.
Craig Korlbeck
Well, okay. Anyway, sorry. That was Nick Kroll. It was great.
Danny Kelly
These are the potential 90s shock jock intros.
Craig Korlbeck
I'm nervous. I can't wait.
Danny Kelly
Carlos, give us the one from Tim. The Ringer Fantasy Football show presents Fork.
Danny Hypert
Or shark that's gonna leave a mark.
Danny Kelly
Featuring cook a crazy Craig and the Diaper Danny's. The echo and the reverb working today. We also have one.
Danny Hypert
The Diaper Danny's.
Danny Kelly
We have one from Jason.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay.
Danny Kelly
Fart or shard?
Danny Hypert
Oh, my God. Change your short. They're so good.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, man. Thank you so much for these, everybody.
Danny Kelly
Oh, we also have one from Matthew.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay, it's time for America's favorite segment.
Danny Kelly
America's favorite segment. Four short.
Danny Hypert
Maybe he lacked us.
Danny Kelly
I am the baseline on that.
Craig Korlbeck
Wow. These exceeded my expectations.
Danny Kelly
I have never felt so in awe of our power with the show as the fact that seven people spent their Monday morning making these things.
Craig Korlbeck
Damn. I feel like we like by by tomorrow, we'll have enough to just do a power hour of 10 options.
Danny Kelly
Rank them. That's a good idea.
Danny Hypert
Which one did you like the most?
Craig Korlbeck
Craig, man. Who was first? Tim. Was Tim first?
Danny Kelly
Tim was first.
Craig Korlbeck
I think I like Tim and Matt's. They were all great. I. I think I like Tim and Matt's the most. That's tough. I like the beat. The. The beat of Matt's was great, but Tim's had the best sound effects, I would say, and the most air horn usage.
Danny Kelly
The. The.
Danny Hypert
The best air.
Danny Kelly
Well, we have them all loaded, you know, so now we can. We can mix it up if we want.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, we'll mix it up.
Danny Kelly
Oh, my. Yeah. Thanks to everyone. I. Wow.
Craig Korlbeck
Those were unbelievable. I just think that's. I love that era. That, like, early radio or like, you know, the early 2000s, late 90s radio. Crazy Craig, like, Howard Stern, man, show.
Danny Kelly
All right.
Craig Korlbeck
Crazy Ira and the Douche. Just like that voice in the Douche. Yeah.
Danny Hypert
Where did that become, like, the standard? Like, that guy's the voice.
Danny Kelly
It's the original Brain rot is radio voices.
Danny Hypert
Well, this is kind of where the whole metal draft idea came from is like when I was doing analysis and stuff, I'm like, just kind of even keel. Not very like. You know, you guys, how I always do, like, ads. It's like, you need to bring up the energy. And then Chris was like, I'm just gonna do monster truck voice over everything. And that was like, how it all started.
Danny Kelly
He's like, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
Craig Korlbeck
I think it's the best.
Danny Kelly
If people haven't seen it, we should post it again. The first metal draft you did with Chris Ryan videos is actually one of my favorite things the ringer's ever made.
Danny Hypert
Dude, they were so unhinged.
Danny Kelly
We'll put that. I'll put that on the Instagram. Okay. I think that's all we got. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos, for making this episode. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronnie. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everybody, for listening. Emails, fantasy court ideas. Emails, more trivia. If you want to sit down and make. If you think you can top what you heard, go ahead and make a garner shard. Edit it. Yeah. Why do your job. Just go ahead and make that. Thank you for listening. Thank you, Lord.
Craig Korlbeck
Lord.
Danny Hypert
Thank you, Led Zeppelin. I almost said Journey. Do. Have we done Journey lately or ever?
Danny Kelly
Probably 10 times, 600 shows or something lately. Like, probably.
Danny Hypert
Which one do you like more, Led Zeppelin or Journey?
Craig Korlbeck
I feel like.
Danny Kelly
I'm not gonna lie. I definitely couldn't name, like, five Journey songs. Probably couldn't name four.
Craig Korlbeck
I feel like with Journey, you probably know more than you can name.
Danny Kelly
You think?
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Like, I don't stop believing. I think I could get every lyric, and then I don't really know what else they got going.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah. Like, it's hard to remember the specific name.
Danny Hypert
Go down in the city.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, yeah. Lights, wheel in the sky.
Danny Kelly
You know what? I always forget they do. Any way you want it. Never mind.
Craig Korlbeck
Any way you want it. Yeah.
Danny Hypert
Faithfully.
Craig Korlbeck
Oh, yeah. Faithfully.
Danny Kelly
Okay. All right. There's. All right. There's way more.
Danny Hypert
They've got a ton of hits.
Danny Kelly
But it's funny sometimes how culture, like, is passed down secondhand sometimes where that is inextricable to me from the Sopranos. I literally had never heard that song before the Sopranos ending. So, like, that's just the Sopranos ending song that now is very popular. Obviously, it had, like.
Craig Korlbeck
When did you watch the Sopranos?
Danny Kelly
When it came out.
Craig Korlbeck
But it started when you were like.
Danny Kelly
Well, I didn't watch it in order. I watched, like, the final season first.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay.
Danny Hypert
Final season.
Craig Korlbeck
You watched the last season of Sopranos first?
Danny Kelly
Well, I was in seventh grade. It wasn't like they just had that floating around. It was on television.
Danny Hypert
You turned it on, didn't buy the DVD box set.
Craig Korlbeck
Damn, that kind of sucks.
Danny Kelly
Well, I was 13, and it was on.
Craig Korlbeck
I know. It sucks that you had the ending spoiled and you probably had no idea what the was going on.
Danny Kelly
I read it. I read some synopsis on AOL about, you know, how Phil. Yeah. AOL had, like, the little spinning carousel, and I was like, oh, I Lost, too. I think I had this. I lost. The way I watched Lost was deranged because it was on. And so, like, in the final season. So I would watch an episode, have no idea what was going on, read Lost pedia to just learn, who the fuck is this character? And then I finished the last season of Lost.
Danny Hypert
Was. Was Lost as good as the hype would indicate?
Danny Kelly
I watched that, but having watched the first season later at the moment, I'm sure it was crazy, but I can't believe you.
Craig Korlbeck
You were just watching out of order. That's.
Danny Kelly
I was 13, and I was like, what are you gonna do? Oh, the sanctity of the Sopranos. I'll go back and watch also. I don't know.
Danny Hypert
Don't you want to know? Like, the.
Craig Korlbeck
No, it's not even the sanctity. It's like, people seem to like this show. Maybe I'll Just wait and start from the beginning instead of just reading the last chapter.
Danny Hypert
Know who these characters are.
Danny Kelly
It was a big deal.
Danny Hypert
I just, like, can't imagine doing that.
Craig Korlbeck
That's weird.
Danny Hypert
That's great, though. I like that for you. Did you. You did the same with Lost?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it was on. Everyone was talking about. I was like, what's this?
Danny Hypert
Okay, so Lost. I feel like that would be even, like, way more confusing watching late.
Danny Kelly
I feel like Tarantino tries to confuse you on purpose. That it was like. It was kind of. I don't know, it was kind of like coming in the middle of Pulp Fiction. It's kind of insane.
Craig Korlbeck
Lost. The first season of Lost, I will Stand by, is one of the best seasons of television ever. And it was. It was fantastic. And like, you truly on the edge of your sheet, edge of your seat, you couldn't wait till next week?
Danny Kelly
Carlos is texting saying, this is just how TV worked before streaming. Doesn't seem very crazy for my Fitz.
Danny Hypert
Well, before they had streaming, they had these things called DVDs.
Danny Kelly
I was 13. You want me to buy six seasons of the Sopranos? Just saying, like, that was.
Danny Hypert
That was like, if you don't see a show on television, that doesn't mean you don't see.
Danny Kelly
Kind of does.
Danny Hypert
There's other. No, no, not true. There's other ways to watch.
Danny Kelly
Did you want me to log on to itunes and use my itunes gift cards? Six seasons of Sopranos.
Danny Hypert
Thirteen year old. Sure.
Craig Korlbeck
I, I, I think, I just think it's like, there's this prestige show that is, like, apparently incredible and just hopping in at the very.
Danny Kelly
That word had not even been used yet. Okay.
Craig Korlbeck
There was just a show that was.
Danny Kelly
On and everyone was talking about it.
Craig Korlbeck
So I turned it on. You're super wrong about that. It was not just a show that was on. It was like, the biggest show of all time. It was winning every Emmy.
Danny Kelly
It was like a huge. That's why I wanted to watch it. It. Because everyone was like, this is really good. It's a big deal. I'll turn it on.
Craig Korlbeck
So, okay, so you saying Prestige wasn't around, but.
Danny Kelly
No, I'm saying prestige TV had not even been used yet in, like, 2006.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay. I don't. You're kind of missing my point. I'm saying, like, I feel like the fact that it was such a big show and it, like, was so good to me, I would not want to just then hop in at the very end. I would want to wait and watch it from beginning.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. Now in the Convenience of the streaming era. Yeah. At the time, the idea of catching up on six seasons of television before I watched this, like, I, I think I, I don't know. I, I, I didn't. I just was like, I'm gonna turn this on and watch it. I was 12. Is this that crazy? You guys have never just, like, jumped in the middle of a show that was a big deal that never happened?
Craig Korlbeck
No.
Danny Kelly
What about, like, sitcoms? I feel like this is what I did with everything. I didn't.
Danny Hypert
Sitcoms are totally different, though, because every episode is, like, kind of stand.
Craig Korlbeck
Hopping into Friends in season four is not the same as the last season of the Sopranos.
Danny Kelly
I know Lost. I learned that watching the Sopranos.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah. No, I've never.
Danny Kelly
It was the first time I tried doing that.
Danny Hypert
I just think I'm offended by the idea that if you didn't see something when it was airing live, that you're. And you can't watch it otherwise. Like, dude, we had other ways of watching before.
Danny Kelly
How old were you in 2006?
Danny Hypert
22. 4.
Danny Kelly
That's kind of my point. I was 12. How am I supposed to watch the first six seasons of the Sopranos?
Danny Hypert
I had tapes when I was 12. I don't know. I was. I bought things before I was an adult. I don't understand what your point is.
Danny Kelly
I didn't care enough because.
Danny Hypert
That's fine.
Danny Kelly
Here's my thing. I had never seen the show. This is kind of like listening to a song on the radio. Or you decide you're gonna buy the album. You want me to spend 7. Like, you want me to buy the first season of Sopranos in case I want to Cat. I'm like, I'm gonna just watch the show and see if I like it.
Danny Hypert
Okay, that's fine.
Danny Kelly
People are talking.
Danny Hypert
I understand.
Craig Korlbeck
I understand you watch the Sopranos.
Danny Kelly
I know it was a big deal that they let me watch it. They didn't let me watch it for the five previous years. I had to go to bed while they watched the Sopranos, and then they're like, you can watch it. I'm like, yeah, that was it. I want to watch it. Yeah. This little train shop. That was crazy. That was fine. I didn't even know the nuances of the commentary. The American Dream. I was like, choo choo. Guy got go away.
Danny Hypert
I just can't imagine picking up, like, at the late part of a series.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hypert
Just, like, not knowing anything about the story or the characters.
Craig Korlbeck
I, I guess I understand. If you're 12 years old, you Kind of like, don't know what's going on. You sit down and watch a show your parents are watching. I'm more just like, that kind of sucks. Like, that sucks.
Danny Hypert
I don't, I don't. I'm actually also in Craig's like, camp here where I'm like, I don't actually care that much that you picked up late. I just was offended by the idea that you, like, like we're physically incapable of watching the show at some point. Like, like, it's like, I mean, so hard to find a tape that I'm less.
Craig Korlbeck
I don't know if you want me.
Danny Kelly
To go to Blockbuster. Hey, mom, I want to rent the first season of the Sopranos.
Danny Hypert
Sure, that'd be great. Yeah, that'd be great.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah. I get like a 12 year old wanting to watch what your parents watch. I'm more just like, that sucks that you just like hopped in late, had no idea what was going on.
Danny Kelly
I think this is. I think streaming is totally changing the thing.
Danny Hypert
Thing.
Danny Kelly
If I had listened to you guys, I was there and saw the finale, and when the screen went black, I also was one of those people who thought the TV cut off. I thought our TV cut out, which happened all the time, actually, with the TV we had. And I thought the TV blacked out. So I was part of this thing everyone remembers. And if I had done that, I would never. Like, I. I remember that because I watched it.
Craig Korlbeck
I mean, I watched it on. On streaming on my later and I had. I didn't know what the ending was and I thought my. My computer crept out.
Danny Kelly
There you go.
Craig Korlbeck
I just mean, like, that you had no idea what was going on.
Danny Kelly
Well, that's why I read about it.
Danny Hypert
Who's this Tony guy?
Craig Korlbeck
Well, like, you're like, who's this woman trying to park? Is she gonna come kill him? Like, what's happening here? You know? Yeah, that's all.
Danny Kelly
I feel better because Carl, I've never seen here just being like he's. He's on my side. I feel a little less crazy.
Craig Korlbeck
I. The whole, like, you. You could have watched the DVD set. I don't really agree with that. I'm more just like. I probably just.
Danny Hypert
I don't know.
Craig Korlbeck
I guess I'm surprised your parents let you watch.
Danny Kelly
I guess. What were the. That. What were the op. What were my options here? Don't participate in this thing or participate in the thing. I'm not gonna go and catch up on the 50 episodes or whatever. That's not happening. That. That's a New concept.
Craig Korlbeck
So did you never watch the Sopranos?
Danny Kelly
I have watched most of it, but, yeah, deeply out of order. I never went back. The Wire. I've seen in order a bunch of times.
Craig Korlbeck
What does that mean?
Danny Kelly
Mostly out of order because I saw the ending at the time. I just jump around.
Danny Hypert
He just throws an episode on.
Craig Korlbeck
You mean you jump around. Did you ever. You never watched it from beginning to end?
Danny Kelly
No, because I saw the thing and I was like, oh, this seems like a lot. This.
Danny Hypert
This is insane to me. I don't.
Danny Kelly
When was I going to do.
Danny Hypert
I don't care what. Carlos, what do you mean when you.
Craig Korlbeck
Just said you watch the Wire five times? One of the times you watch the Wire. Sopranos.
Danny Hypert
Sometimes I just pull up a movie and start in the middle.
Danny Kelly
I feel like I was to Car says I'm not losing. I'm like, all right. I don't know. I saw the ending. I wasn't motivated to start over.
Danny Hypert
I just can't imagine starting a show late.
Craig Korlbeck
That sucks. It literally ruined. Ruined it.
Danny Kelly
I feel like you're taking what I'm saying as I would go back and do it the same way. I'm just describing a thing that I. That I did.
Craig Korlbeck
Well, I just 12.
Danny Hypert
But you're also defending it. Defending it vehemently.
Danny Kelly
It was normal at the time. I was like, everyone's talking about this. I'll watch a show. I wasn't thinking about the broader implications of missing cinematic piece.
Craig Korlbeck
I totally get that. If I was your parents, I would have probably said, like, hey, we're not gonna let you watch this. Wait. And watch the whole thing when you're four years older. But the fact that it. Yeah. Damn, that sucks. So you. You just bop around and watch random episodes of Sopranos? That's fucking weird.
Danny Hypert
Just depending on the mood.
Danny Kelly
I had a weird relationship. It was the first, like, big show I got to watch. It was. Yeah.
Craig Korlbeck
Okay.
Danny Kelly
I'm not saying this is like, I'm not recommending this.
Craig Korlbeck
Yeah, okay. That's interesting. Anyway, watch the Sopranos. It's good.
Danny Kelly
Email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com of you have. I don't know what the right thing here. I guess your relationship with. There are certain. Like when you're. For lack of a better term, like when you. Your. Your collision with, like, adult material and it just being like, you just digested big cultural pieces wrong. I don't know how else to say it.
Danny Hypert
I mean, look, I'm the guy who watches everything, like, two years late, so whatever. I. I don't have a.
Danny Kelly
You watch Barbie on the vhs. That just.
Danny Hypert
I know I don't have. I can't. You know, people are probably pissed off at me right now, but that's fine. I just think I like. I like to watch shows in order. That's all. That's all I'm saying.
Danny Kelly
I would have preferred that. I'll go back to the band. Let me watch it when I was six. When it came out four.
Danny Hypert
No, I'd say you could have started. Well, whatever. We don't need to restart this conversation.
Danny Kelly
All right. Did we thank a band?
Danny Hypert
I just want to point out that in the before times, in the early 2000s and late 1990s, you were able to purchase popular culture saying that not with 11.
Danny Kelly
I literally wasn't allowed. You literally. I couldn't do that. Things.
Danny Hypert
I bought things when I was.
Danny Kelly
I wasn't old enough to do that. Literally. They wouldn't sell it to me. That wasn't allowed. I wasn't 13.
Danny Hypert
Okay. Okay.
Danny Kelly
I feel crazy.
Danny Hypert
I wasn't allowed to buy porn, but I found a way. If it's.
Danny Kelly
I should have gone into the woods. That's. I should have gone and watched the Sopranos vhs.
Danny Hypert
You're not technically allowed to smoke cigarettes and drink before you're 21. Well, cigarettes, I guess, is 18, you know, find a way. Hiit.
Danny Kelly
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Date: October 7, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
This episode delivers a comprehensive breakdown of a wild Monday Night Football clash between the Jacksonville Jaguars and Kansas City Chiefs, teases out the peaks and valleys of the Trevor Lawrence experience, and debates fantasy roster moves ahead of Week 6. The crew also visits memorable moments (including the most zoomed-in nose-pick on TV), recaps their own fantasy league dramatics, and closes with their typically chaotic brand of mailbag and pop-culture tangents (featuring Heifetz's unconventional “Sopranos” viewing experience). As always, they guide listeners through must-add waiver targets at each position for both shallow and deep leagues.
Opening Banter [01:08–04:46]
“He fell down, got stepped on by the center, fell... got up, still ran in for a touchdown. Just a hilarious turn of events.” — Danny Heifetz [02:25]
Peak Eli, Boneheaded Plays, and Peak “Blockhead” T-Law [03:10–05:44]
“The whole Lawrence experience in terms of the peaks and valleys... He runs like the wind, but he just makes these boneheaded plays.” [04:12]
Lawrence’s Candid Quote After Game [08:58]
Game of Inches – Goal Line Chaos [08:08–10:47]
Referee Decisions & The Nature of Football Luck [11:35–15:25]
Are the Jags for Real? [15:25–16:45]
“Even though I think Haskins is probably going to be the 'lead' guy, I think I might lean Michael Carter a little bit... But it is very close.” — Danny Kelly [27:51]
Defense:
Quarterbacks:
On Trevor Lawrence:
“He’s a blockhead. That’s gonna stick with me.” — Danny Kelly [18:21]
“I can’t believe the Jags are 4-1. I think their defense is legit. I’m not sure so much about their offense, but this was actually a pretty fun game.” — Heifetz [02:25]
Lawrence's honesty:
“Panic, sheer panic.” — Trevor Lawrence postgame [09:21]
On fantasy football agony:
“Nobody cares about your fantasy league, but I did beat House. It came down to the final drive. He had Mahomes. I had nobody. I was up 1.4 points.” — Craig Horlbeck [06:01]
Referee drama:
“Travis Kelce’s like, ‘Do you know who my wife is?’” — Craig Horlbeck [12:14]
On Football Luck:
“That was the one in one hundred version of that play that worked out. Every other version is a disaster.” — Danny Kelly [17:29]
Gross-out Humor:
Chaotic Pop Culture Tangent:
“It was on TV. I was 13. Was I supposed to buy six seasons of Sopranos? I just turned it on.” [87:41]
“I have watched most of it, but, yeah, deeply out-of-order.” [94:44]
| Segment | Timestamps | |------------------------------|--------------------| | Opening/Game Recap | 00:00–15:25 | | Lawrence’s Interview Quote | 08:57–09:39 | | Chiefs-Jags Goal Line Plays | 08:08–10:47 | | Refs/Calls | 11:35–15:25 | | Are Jags Legit? | 15:25–17:13 | | Fantasy Waivers: RBs | 26:07–38:48 | | Fantasy Waivers: WRs | 39:00–50:08 | | Fantasy Waivers: TEs | 50:22–65:02 | | DEF/QB Streamers | 66:41–71:23 | | Listener Banter & Trivia | 34:10; 42:00+ | | Sopranos/Lost Tangent | 86:26–96:07 |
“Blockhead is the perfect word.” — Danny Kelly, on the undying Trevor Lawrence experience [07:41]
“Panic. Sheer panic.” — Trevor Lawrence, perfectly summarizing fantasy football… and life [09:21]