Maxx Crosby Trade Debacle, Geno's a Jet (Again), Viking Kyler, Bam Drops 83, Italy Beats Team USA at Baseball, and Pokémon or Coachella Band

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Ringer NFL Draft Show – “Maxx Crosby Trade Debacle, Geno's a Jet (Again), Viking Kyler, Bam Drops 83, Italy Beats Team USA at Baseball, and Pokémon or Coachella Band”

Date: March 12, 2026
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Special Guest: Austin Gale (Ringer Staff Writer, Raiders fan)

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Episode Overview

A wild week in sports led this episode, with the hosts diving deep into the shocking Maxx Crosby failed trade saga between the Raiders and Ravens, Geno Smith’s unlikely return to the Jets, the Minnesota Vikings’ rumored pursuit of Kyler Murray, and jaw-dropping moments in the NBA and World Baseball Classic. Interspersed were their signature games and banter, including a challenge to distinguish between Pokémon and Coachella band names.

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Main Segments & Key Discussion Points

1. Supreme Fantasy Court: The Maxx Crosby Ravens-Raiders Trade Debacle

[04:00 – 32:00]

Overview

• The Raiders traded Maxx Crosby to the Ravens for two first-rounders—only for the Ravens to fail Crosby on his physical days later and sign Trey Hendrickson instead. Austin Gale, a longtime Raiders fan, joined to process the fallout.

Key Points

• Austin Gale’s Reaction:

  • “My breakfast was a black coffee and starting Facebook groups to Jan6, the Ravens organization.” [05:19, Austin Gale]
  • Emotional and hilarious recounting of how rare and crushing this situation is for Raiders fans.
  • “They ripped Vegas sione the dreams from me over a weekend.” [05:19]

• Physical Fallout:

  • All parties knew Crosby had knee surgery; procedures and expectations were clear.
  • “He wasn’t supposed to take a physical until June… Like it’s a parachute pull.” [08:20, Austin]

• Ravens’ Move as Machiavellian:

  • “This is fucking Machiavellian. This is so smart.” [09:38, Danny Kelly]
  • “It’s expertly done by Baltimore. You have to give it to them. It’s a mafia move." [10:11]

• Was it Legal? Was it Ethical?

  • "Do I think the Ravens did something illegal? No. Was it insanely bush league? Yes." [10:17, Craig]
  • Team debate: Should there be a ‘breakup fee’ for this kind of last-second renege?

• NFL Market Implications:

  • Crosby’s trade value plummeted—from two 1sts to "cents on the dollar."
  • “Max Crosby’s lowest trade value is right now.” [17:15, Austin]

• Notable Scene:

  • Crosby spent a full day in the Ravens facility, then was shuttled out as they negotiated with Hendrickson at the same time. [11:11]

• Best and Worst Case for Raiders

  • Revenge retention: “He’s a villain. He’s going after everyone.” [12:35, Austin]
  • “The only recourse is spiritual. It has to be a curse.” [11:47, Austin]

Notable Quotes

• “This is the $11 billion football team organization version of post-nut clarity.” [08:30, Danny Heifetz]
• “Like, every now and then, legitimately they discover a brain tumor.” [07:59, Craig, on the rarity of failed physicals]
• “We need a Supreme Fantasy Court special session.” [02:59, DK]

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2. NFL Free Agency, Quarterback Musical Chairs & Geno Smith Returns to the Jets

[32:00 – 61:00]

Major QB Moves & Reactions

• Geno Smith–Jets Reunion

  • “The reunion no one wanted to see.” [33:46, Craig]
  • “It’s like getting back together with your high school sweetheart in your late 30s. Couldn't find anyone better!” [38:41, Craig]
  • “Geno Smith after leaving the Jets: took six years to throw for double-digit touchdowns again.” [37:00, DK]

• Colts Sign Daniel Jones

  • Two-year, $88m deal coming off Achilles tear.
  • “Who are they negotiating against?” [42:31, Craig]
  • "If Daniel Jones comes back and is great, he only has to play one year then renegotiate.” [44:11, Danny H.]

• Vikings Likely to Sign Kyler Murray

  • “Kyler is this year’s Darnold—a reclamation project who could crush it in Minnesota.” [48:16, DK]
  • “His cap hit as a Viking would be less than 1%… thirty to forty times cheaper than before.” [50:00, Danny H.]

• Steelers & Aaron Rodgers Drama

  • “I’m tired of giving the Steelers credit. I think they really don't know anything.” [57:10, Craig]
  • Debated if Will Howard or a surprise vet could be their fallback.

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3. The Week’s Wilder Sports Moments

[61:00 – 80:00]

NFL Considering More Games

• NFL may add a Wednesday Thanksgiving Eve game.
  • “This is too far. Now it’s seven games in nine nights.” [60:09, Danny Kelly]
  • “Thanksgiving Eve, also known as Drunksgiving.” [60:09, Craig]

Bam Adebayo Drops NBA 83 Points

• Only Wilt Chamberlain has more in a game.
  • “He had 43 field goal attempts and 43 free throw attempts.” [69:41, DK]
  • “His previous career high was 41. He broke it by halftime.” [70:52, Danny H.]
• The fourth quarter became a farce with intentional fouling on both sides.
  • "At the end… the Heat were fouling the Wizards so Bam could get the ball back. That's fucking lame." [63:10, DK]

Team USA Loses to Italy in World Baseball Classic

• “The USA manager had no clue the game mattered.” [73:40, Danny H.]
• “How did no one on Team USA tell the manager it counted?” [74:09, Craig]

Cal Raleigh vs. Randy Arozarena Handshake Mini-Drama

• US-Mexico game awkward moment: former teammates froze each other out. [75:00-77:46]

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4. Signature Ringer Game: Pokémon or Coachella Band?

[92:27 – 96:10]

• Challenge: Is it a 2026 Pokémon or a band playing Coachella?
  • “Guzzlord?” “Pokemon.” – Correct.
  • “Freak Slug?” – Band (Manchester-based)
• “Our hit rate here is pathetic… This is actually a very good game. Well done, Jimmy.” [95:07 & 95:58]

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5. Other Noteworthy Quotes & Banter

• “People just be naming anything now. Chase Infinity is a real person.” [98:05, Danny Kelly]
• “I gotta guess everyone's shoe size…” [83:19, Danny Kelly, riffing on the Trump shoe story]
• “I never toast my Pop Tarts.” [89:15, DK]
• “Venmo is Facebook for pizza parties. Why is this a public feed?” [86:32+, multiple]
• “PB&J—a truly properly rated flavor combo.” [91:57, DK]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

| Topic / Moment | Timestamp | |---------------------------------------------|------------------| | Maxx Crosby Trade Debacle | 04:00 – 32:00 | | Geno Smith back to the Jets | 32:00 – 39:50 | | Colts / Daniel Jones contract analysis | 41:14 – 46:17 | | Kyler Murray rumors to the Vikings | 46:29 – 52:52 | | NFL considering Wednesday games | 59:11 – 61:27 | | Bam Adebayo scores 83 points | 61:41 – 70:00 | | Team USA loses to Italy at WBC | 72:29 – 79:00 | | Cal Raleigh – Randy Arozarena drama | 75:04 – 77:46 | | Pokémon or Coachella Band Game | 92:27 – 96:10 |

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Tone & Language

The episode is informal and fast-paced, packed with gallows humor, sarcasm, and Gen-Z millennial banter. The hosts riff together, examine both the absurdity and emotional swings of modern pro sports, and frequently pull real-world analogies and pop culture references into their discussions.

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Memorable Moments

• Austin Gale, devastated Raiders fan: "My breakfast was a black coffee and starting Facebook groups to Jan6 the Ravens organization.” [05:19]
• Danny K: “This is fucking Machiavellian. This is so smart.” [09:38]
• Geno–Jets Redux: “It’s like getting back together with your high school girlfriend in your late 30s. Couldn’t find anyone better.” [38:41]
• Bam Adebayo’s 83: “He broke his career high at halftime.” [70:52]
• On NFL oversaturation: “Thanksgiving Eve, also known as Drunksgiving.” [60:09]
• Pokémon or Band Game: “Guzzlord? … It's a Pokémon.” [94:12]

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For Next Week

• The hosts preview their upcoming “Free Agency Hangover” episode and solicit wild listener hangover stories.
  • “I want hangover stories good enough to be the movie Hangover 4.” [96:42, DK]

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Join the “Ringer Fantasy Football Show / Ringer NFL Draft Show” March Madness entry on ESPN (link in episode notes).
Email: [e-mail] for free agency stories, feedback, and prize ideas.

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Transcript

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[Danny Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

I think we need to. I think this calls for it.

[Danny Heifetz]

We need to. But before that, real quick, I want to mention we're also going to do a March Madness bracket again. We did it last year. We had a lot of fun with it. So we're going to give ringer merch out shout out again to Danny G. Who won last year.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Who?

[Danny Heifetz]

Danny G. I'll be totally honest, I forgot to send it to him. I'm gonna send it to him this week. So I'm sending him. I know I.

[Danny Kelly]

No way. Oh, my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

Being honest. I can, but I'm being honest. I'm coming clean. But anyway, we're doing our March Madness bracket selection, but I'm sending it to him. I got his address and everything. Selection Sunday is this Sunday. So we're going to try to Tate Frazier on next week on this show to do a March Madness preview. But the game start next Thursday. You're hearing this probably Thursday, March 12th. The games start next week. ESPN not doing an entry fee. It's on ESPN. Just look up the ringer fantasy football show and on espn. And we're at the link in this episode description. Wherever you're listening. So you can join our March Madness pool and then Craig can give an in depth breakdown of San Diego State and whatever else and we'll have.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, they're not going to make it. So I don't, I don't. There'll be no breakdown.

[Craig Korlbeck]

We can change it. Never mind about San Diego State, though, Craig.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, I don't want to talk about that this year. So any other team I'm happy to talk about.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's brutal prizes tbd. So we could do ringer merch again. But.

[Danny Kelly]

And the prize will come in 2027.

[Danny Heifetz]

It will. Yes, exactly. You're delayed. Yeah. It's a future. Future consideration. The stuff. Sorry, Danny G. Yeah. So join our March Madness bracket and episode that is in the episode description. So with that said, we're gonna bring in Austin Gale. Raiders fan is the plaintiff here. But I think it's time for Supreme Fantasy Court.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't really want to be handcuffed.

[Danny Kelly]

The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. Can you touch a cloud?

[Danny Heifetz]

Court is in session. We are joined by Austin Gale Raiders fan, Austin not usually how you start court, but Max Crosby back on your favorite player. Traded for two first round picks to the Ravens and then on Friday night, and then Tuesday, the Ravens failed him on his physical on Tuesday night. And then they signed Trey Hendrickson to basically all the Max Crosby money on Wednesday morning. How do you feel, Austin? How are you doing?

[Austin Gale]

My breakfast was a black coffee. And starting Facebook groups to Jan6, the Ravens organization. That's kind of where we're at right now. I'm reading every report. Anything? I have notifications on three different platforms with Deanna Rossini. I need to see everything. I needed to costume. I need to know what happened here. This does not happen in the NFL for a reason. This has never happened. People bring up the Brockers, the Grant, we'll get into it. This does not happen. This was bad faith, bad business. They ripped Vegas sione the dreams from me over a weekend. I can't believe this happened. I think I have ideas for best case, worst case, but this is no doubt a meteor, a nuke dropped into the Raiders lap after they spent 280mil on Monday thinking Max Crosby was a Raven.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you think the physical was like? Do you think they hit Max Crosby's knee with a literal hammer? And they were like, did that hurt? And he's like, yeah. And they're like, well, it looks like you can't make it on the team. Sorry.

[Austin Gale]

We can make jokes all day long. Like, the thing is, everyone knew that Max Crosby had the surgery at the end of the season. Wasn't a trim, it was a repair. Rapaport had receipts. They knew. They talked to the surgeon before they made offers to the trade. That's the Ravens doctors. And I think what had happened because of this legal tampering period, they get to Tuesday and all of a sudden it's kind of easy to drum up that this knee that. Yes. Has been surgically repaired and he has other injuries too, and he's turning 29. Might have, this is the quote, might have long term concerns. Like anyone can make that up. The Tuesday after the Monday where they're talking to Trey Hendrickson, like, this is very clearly, like, yes, maybe his knee doesn't make sense for two first round picks, but you can't agree to the trade Friday and then get out of it one day after free agency starts.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, this is. I sure as I can. I'm sure as I can.

[Austin Gale]

It's, it's, it's legal. It's legal. And I don't know if the league is going to Come down on the Ravens for this. But, like, in terms of, like, Goodell or whatever. But I might. I think other teams are really upset by this. Like, again, this doesn't happen. It's bad faith. It's bad business. It's why, like, there's a bunch of mud throwing in the media right now. Like, people are really upset with the Ravens. DaCosta is going live right now spewing probably lies, mind you, but it's an unfortunate situation for the Raiders, and I can't believe the Ravens did it.

[Danny Kelly]

You got to come up with, like, a Trump nickname for Eric DaCosta, like the propaganda or something. He needs to have his own name go to.

[Danny Heifetz]

DaCosta cost you.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it really is.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He is.

[Austin Gale]

He's costing me a lot.

[Danny Heifetz]

Eric cost you? Yeah. Just to go through this again, I mean, I. I actually just started writing down a list of questions I had personally throughout this. Not even for content, but I. I just. Because I realized that, I mean, this has never happened. I mean, nothing like this has really happened. Like, in sports sometimes, I think every year, at least in. In one of the sports, basketball, baseball, football, you see either a Frasian signing or a trade voided because of a physical. And like, all signings and all trades are dependent on the physical. They're mostly formalities for the most part. They, you know, I would say 99% of them, it's fine, but every now

[Craig Korlbeck]

and then, legitimately high. Fitz, one of them was. They discovered a brain tumor.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. Jerome Harrison was traded, I think, to the Eagles. He's a really.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's the kind of thing that normally would cancel out a trade like this. Not like, actually, you know what? The surgically repaired knee that we knew about is. Is actually. It's surgically repaired. And gosh, you know what? Trey Hendrickson is still out there.

[Austin Gale]

He wasn't supposed to take a physical until June. Like, his knee, they know, is not ready to be evaluated yet. They knew all of this going in, like it's a parachute pole.

[Danny Heifetz]

They knew. I. I think. I do think that this is just, honestly the $11 billion football team organization version of just post nut clarity, if we're being honest. Like, I feel like the Ravens did something completely out of character. They're a draft and developed team. They're a family team. They, you know, they go home to their wife, and they had this one night on Friday night where they were.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, it was Friday night.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was Friday night, and it's like, Max Crosby, two first round picks, Drinks were flowing, flowing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What time was It.

[Danny Heifetz]

Easter.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It was like 9 Eastern.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then they. And they're like, oh, they like, oh, I should.

[Danny Kelly]

What happened?

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, no, two first.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I can't.

[Danny Heifetz]

They never even traded one in the whole history of the team. They traded two.

[Austin Gale]

You can't tell me over the weekend those. The decision makers had a stomachache. They're like, oh, my God, we've never

[Danny Kelly]

traded a first round pick.

[Austin Gale]

We traded two and they started reading us for it and trade agreements, picking up the line.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

As much as it pains me to say this is just incredibly savvy work by Baltimore. It really is.

[Austin Gale]

That's the saddest part. That's the saddest part. Like, like, this is excellent.

[Danny Kelly]

This is fucking Machiavellian. This is so smart, them giving this ridiculous package to Max Crosby. Few days later, they realize, Trey Hendrickson still out there. We can get rid of Crosby, get our two first round picks back, get the second best option at pass rusher. Oh, are we. Are we sure? We're maybe overpaying Trey Henderson a little bit, but is that worth getting two first round picks back? Yes, let's do that. Send him back to the Raiders where that makes no sense now because they just filled the roster to replace Max Crosby.

[Craig Korlbeck]

They also lost Linderbaum. They're like, shit, we thought we were going to have Linder bomb. Like, now we have all this extra money.

[Danny Kelly]

It's expertly done by Baltimore. You have to give it to them. It's a mafia move. And they nailed it. I know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I was going to say, like, do I think the Ravens did something illegal?

[Danny Heifetz]

No.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Was it insanely bush league? Yes. Like, what's the punishment for being total bush? I don't know. Maybe the only route is to go code Red. Like, is there a league code red thing? Something that they could do?

[Danny Kelly]

Like, look, they know the rules and they followed them. Right. They didn't pass the physical. Every team has their own standards of what is required to pass a physical. And the Ravens, like, he didn't pass our test. What are you going to say? You challenge our doctor.

[Danny Heifetz]

And I don't want to get lost in the technicalities, but it's important to remember, like, the whole weird thing with the. The league we're recording this Wednesday afternoon, March 11th. None of these deals are technically official till 4pm Eastern. So technically, Max Crosby never was a Raven because they do all the deals.

[Danny Kelly]

He was in their musical chair.

[Danny Heifetz]

No one moves chairs.

[Danny Kelly]

Fairy dust. It's a fugazi. It's a fugazi in their building for

[Craig Korlbeck]

a full Day he was like, rehabbing in the Ravens facility.

[Danny Heifetz]

The fact. Diana Rossini reported that they were on the phone with Trey Hendrickson while Max Crosby was there. That Max Crosby there for eight hours in the Ravens facility, met everyone, brought his family, Ms. The coaches, met the scout, met everybody, met trainers. And then they're on the phone with Hendrickson while he's there.

[Austin Gale]

Rappaport said Trey Hendrickson was going to sign with the Colts until he found out about them backing out of the Crosby trade.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I saw this.

[Danny Kelly]

They knew.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Hayden Winks made this analogy, and I thought it was perfect. The. The Ravens left their bride at the altar for a bridesmaid.

[Austin Gale]

Yes.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yes. It's like, is that illegal?

[Danny Kelly]

No.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Does it look good?

[Danny Heifetz]

No.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No.

[Danny Heifetz]

No one's going to forget.

[Austin Gale]

Like I said, the only recourse for this is spiritual. It has to be a curse.

[Danny Heifetz]

There's.

[Austin Gale]

It's got to be a Crosby curse here. Like, the Raiders aren't going to get anything for this. The league's not going to do anything. But this is bad karma, bad voodoo, all of it for a team that has had that for a while now. Add this little sprinkle. Trey Hendrickson's 31 years old, three years older than Max Crosby. Also coming off surgery. I hope he passes the physical. I'm rooting for the Ravens. Downside. I'm just rooting for the demise. I can't.

[Danny Kelly]

I can't.

[Austin Gale]

I can't do this. I can't do this.

[Danny Heifetz]

I

[Craig Korlbeck]

wait. But now he's going to play for your team, right?

[Austin Gale]

And I like that's best case scenario. Revenge maxing. We're revenge maxing. With Max Crosby still on the team, everyone's bringing up the cap space. We have so much cap space, we have to spend 90% of the floor. We still have about 40 million in space. With Crosby back on the books, convince him to play for the Raiders. It was always meant to be. He was in the facility this morning at 6am so was I.

[Danny Kelly]

No, I wasn't a villain. Congrats.

[Austin Gale]

He's a villain. He's going after everyone. We play the Raider Ravens in 2027. Look out. Like I. I mean, I'm look out. The worst case for this is you trade Crosby for cents on the dollar. Not because, in my opinion, the physical brings him down, which, like, maybe doctors have differing opinions. We have to give some credit to that. Like him failing the physical, having the surgery, whatever. The real problem is, hours after this trade was announced, Deanna Rossini dropped the bag. Vic Tafer of the Athletic Dropped the bag saying, Mark Davis and Max Crosby met at his home for, like three hours, kind of saying their goodbyes in December, that was the hardest thing they had to keep close to the best at the combine. When Spytech was immediately asked, how confident are you keeping Crosby? He says, confident. They played. They played cat and mouse the whole way. And then all of that rumors comes out. That's why the trade value has dropped. It's how their commitment to keeping Crosby wasn't as big as they said it was. And now that cat's out of the bag.

[Danny Heifetz]

So the trade values drop because the Ravens failed him on a physical.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm almost positive, you know, what's the funny thing? And look, I haven't. I haven't. This Da Costa presser is happening right now, so I can't watch it yet. But based on the tweets that I'm seeing that are kind of relaying what's happening in this presser, I told. I told Austin not to read any of these. He isn't even. He had. Eric DaCosta has not brought up the medicals. His. His explanation was as part of the trade process. We were not able to complete the process based on our assessment of the situation.

[Austin Gale]

This guy's playing with the lawyers right now.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I had to do what's best interest of the organization.

[Danny Kelly]

What kind of work are you in? What line of work are you in? Construction.

[Danny Heifetz]

Fell off a truck. No, he can't actually say anything because technically he's. Max, to Crosby is just another player under contract for another team, and they're not allowed to talk to him. I do want to go a couple, like, things of housekeeping with all this, just because it's worth going through. Max Crosby did have a knee surgery on his meniscus at the end of the season. That was two months ago. Max Crosby was on crutches until two weeks ago. And Max Crosby is not ready to play football again or practice in any capacity till two months from now. So, on one hand, you could argue that no team was going to, quote, unquote, pass them on a physical now, because frankly, players aren't usually traded on this kind of timeline, or at least for this month. Like, players are not usually traded when they were just on crutches. However, there's also a reason that this almost never happens and has more or less almost never happened for a deal this big, which is all the teams knew this. Like all the other teams, the Bears, the Cowboys, all the other teams that put a first and a second rounder together in this package. And the Ravens beat it with two first rounders. All the other teams knew that this was the deal. So I think the weird part is it's not that the Ravens failed them in a physical. And again, it's subjective. What it means is they're like, given the risk reward, it's a no for me, dog. Like, if it was a seventh round pick, they'd probably say yes. It's like, it's very subjective. Different doctors could give different evaluations, and the trade package could change it. Now, they did get five independent doctors, apparently including the Cowboys team doctor weighed in in an independent capacity, which is also bullshit because you think Jerry Jones isn't calling the independent doctor that works for the Dallas Cowboys about what? It's a whole thing. But other team doctors weighed in on this and saw all the exams and everything.

[Danny Kelly]

But the point, as did Neil Elitrash, who was Max Crosby, who did.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, Neil El Trash was on the phone with Adam Scheft, who was like

[Danny Kelly]

the top sports surgeon in the country, who worked on Kobe's Achilles, Ohtani's Aaron Rodgers Achilles. He said that, of course, because it was his handiwork that Max Crosby was progressing better than ahead of schedule.

[Danny Heifetz]

With that said, there's an argument that he was never going to. Max Crosby is never going to, quote, unquote, pass a physical. The weird part is, if the Ravens do that, why the fuck did they accept the trade for two first on Friday night? Which is why where everyone kind of leans is Occam's razor is two things. The least sexy answer of all is, well, Max Crosby's knee is probably degenerative because he plays a lot of fucking snaps and never comes off the goddamn field. And it's not that great of a long outlook on his knee, which they probably should have saw coming. And honestly, if anything, it reminds me what DK always says about when you buy a house, don't look in the walls. Like, DK always says, like, don't look in the walls. You don't want to see what's in there. It's easy to say, oh, we'll trade for him. He's great. Watch the tape. Max Crosby is amazing. Then they look in his knee and they're like, oh, my God, there's a lot of moisture in here. Like, we might have to fix this. This might be a long term problem. And I feel like, honestly, I just think the Ravens got. Yeah, like, they just got to have the poster clarity of like, oh, my God, like, this guy can't practice yet. Why did we give the two first for him?

[Danny Kelly]

So what now? Like, what? What is Max Crosby's trade value? He's not going for two first round picks anymore. He's tainted by the news of him not passing the physical, the Ravens giving up on him. Like, will he get traded? Austin, do you think he's going to get traded and what do you think the package is going to be?

[Austin Gale]

I'd argue the lowest point of Max Crosby's trade value is right now, if not like yesterday. And I think what the reports have been coming out where, like Raiders camp is clearly trying to push this narrative is that we're willing to play him this season. We have the money to keep them. We're not, you know, relitigating our free agency deals. We're going to honor those two, unlike the Ravens, but we're going to honor those two. And they're going to go into this season saying, like, okay, maybe we trade them close to the draft if the compensation gets closer to what they were going to get for Baltimore, which probably won't. And then there's another option where you wait until after the 2026 NFL Draft, focus all the capital into 2027, like a 2027 first and a 2027 second, which still would feel like cents on the dollar given that you got them off the books for two first. I think that the way you do this is you hold face, say you're prepared to play him all the way up into the season, even up into the deadline, and wait until his trade value is at least gotten out of the hole it's in now. Like it'd be ridiculous to trade him in the next week. I know on Friday he has like a bunch of money in guarantees through 2027 that will go on the books. I think you eat that, you go to the 2026 NFL Draft, continue to field offers and wait until like this thing's at least salvageable. Like, Crosby was in the building at 6am this morning. The relationship wasn't great in December of last year. Now after all this, after the Raiders did right by him, traded him to an organization and the Ravens burned him, he might hate the Ravens more than he doesn't want to play for the Raiders. So I think there might be actually interest in him playing for the Raiders. He said in his goodbye video that he's since deleted, by the way, that he would want to retire as a Raider. He is a Raider for life. Like, I think that there's a good chance that this helps mend the wounds a bit. And again, it's revenge maxing. He's going on tour. 18 plus sacks, we get into the wild card round. Oh, here come the Ravens. I don't know, I'm fan fiction over here. That's best case. But I think that honestly it's more likely that he gets dealt and it's like either near the 20, 26 NFL Draft for cents on the dollar or closer to the season. But I don't think they ever get to first pack.

[Danny Heifetz]

And to your point, the Raiders spent like a hundred, like I can't even think of the numbers, like 280,000,002. Yeah, absolutely insane amount because they had very little on the books and there was a salary floor that they had to hit. And so they actually can keep Crosby. They still need like 25, 30 million for the draft class. But DK, obviously if someone offered the Raiders two first for Max Crosby right now, they would take him in a heartbeat. Obviously the market's different now because teams kind of spent their money, but the team offered a second rounder for Max Crosby to be like, go fuck yourself. But right now, let's say the Bears called back and just offered a first and a fourth. Would you take that if you're the Raiders?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Probably not. I think I would go with. What Austin was saying is like, just stick with them. You know, prove that you're, you're willing to put your money where your mouth is in terms of like hanging on to him and trying to repair that. And then your leverage. Right now what Austin was alluding to is like the rape. The Raiders have no leverage. You know, like everyone thinks they're trying to just dump him for whatever, that eliminates their leverage. So trying to re establish some of the leverage in terms of, you know, his value on the open market. I think you just hang on to them because if everyone thinks that they're just trying to get rid of them for nothing, that just, you know, they're not, they're not, they're not going to offer anything near what they got for.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know what's funny? Part of me thinks that it's just a no call off because I remember something offhand thing shefter Ian Rappaport had said is that the, none of the teams are going to call the Raiders back because they think the Raiders are going to call them. But if you're the Raiders, you can't call anyone.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

You can't reach out. They were going to call me and they're just not going to talk.

[Austin Gale]

There was an anonymous like high ranking executive in the athletic. That was like calling the Raiders about Crosby and like, his quote was like, yeah, they're in a really bad spot. Like, imagine calling them, being like, hey, how's it going with Crosby? And you come out of like, yeah, they're really struggling. I mean, a meteor fell into their lap last night after they spent all this money with their expectation being we have two first round picks and next year and the year after his draft class and we don't have this 30 million. Like, they spent all day on Monday thinking Max Crosby was a Raven. Like, no matter how you slice this, how late this decision came from Baltimore, with all the other stuff being unprecedented, like, it completely puts the Raiders in a bad spot. Like, it hurts them in a big way.

[Danny Heifetz]

They signed quiddy pay to replace him for like 30 million or whatever. 25. 30 million a year. That's kind of awkward now, but I don't know, part of me is like, oh, ironically you do all this stuff on offense and you're like, oh, well, if only you had a Max Crosby as player on defense. And you're like, oh, well, now you have Max Crosby back. The other thing I wanted to mention is just the amount of physicals that like, they could be wrong. Like Drew, like Nick Saban and the Dolphins failed Drew Brees on his physical. They tried to sign him for Miami in 2006. They failed him on his shoulder. And then he went to New Orleans and played 15 more years, won a Super bowl and finished his career as the NFL's all time leading passing leader. So they can be wrong with this, you know, have to be.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There's an objective, I think.

[Danny Heifetz]

Subjective. Exactly.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, you can go to three different doctors and get three different opinions. Totally. I think the. The best storyline outcome here is that he stays with the Raiders and the Raiders are pretty good this year. And now their defensive line is actually great and Max Crosby's revitalized and the relationship is repaired because wasn't it like, they knew his knee was hurt and they wanted to tank for Mendoza, so they benched him, which, like now look in retrospect, is not that big of a fucking deal. And I know Max Crosby wants to play every snap and that's awesome, but maybe now the Raiders are going to be good. All it takes is the Raiders being like 2 and 1 and the team looks good in Mendoza, looks all right. And Max Crosby has two sacks in the first three games. And I feel like the vibes are high again.

[Austin Gale]

Absolutely. I mean, the upgrades they made to their front seven, like Quay Walker And Kobe Dean, two monster deals. It's like the best linebackers they've had in terms of investment in a very long time. They resigned Malcolm Koontz. They resigned Eric Stokes. They traded for Taron Johnson. They promoted the defensive line coach who Crosby loves to defensive coordinator. They're moving to a 3, 4. They invest in Linderbaum, Kubiak. The problem with Max Crosby was not with Mark Davis or any of the seven previous coaches. It was like, why do we have like seven coaches the last like eight years? And other problems have been with Tom Brady, Guerrero, that stuff coming out. I think that Kubiak being there, the investment that they've made, there's a long term plan in play. And at the end of the day, before the Ravens trade, there was no evidence that the Raiders have done right by him or like honored their word, but they legitimately did. They traded for two first. They kept us on the quiet since December, like they did everything right by him. And at this point, Raider for life. I think that makes the most sense. And quietly, even if all that is, you have to say that so his

[Danny Kelly]

trade value goes up.

[Austin Gale]

So, like, I feel like you have to hold face and try and do that anyway.

[Danny Kelly]

We don't, we don't know what Alex Guerrero's medical assessment of Max Crosby looks like. I'm waiting for that to come out. Did he pass Alex Guerrero's physical?

[Danny Heifetz]

That would be, that would be amazing if the Ravens put it up. It's like, what the did Alex do in here?

[Austin Gale]

Guerrero sends a tweet. He's like, he wouldn't have passed my physical either, for what it's worth.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, get Crosby some strawberries, stat. What is going on here?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, if they, so if they do hang on to him. The other thing that I think is interesting here is just adding on to the layers of this whole Raiders saga. This off season so far, there was a tweet from Diana Rossini that the Raiders are expected to show interest in Kirk Cousins, who becomes a free agent.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, perfect.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Literally perfect. And, and so like, my, my thought is if the Raiders just hang on to Crosby, that nothing materializes before the first couple of weeks of the season and they go into the league and they start winning or they go into the season and they start winning a few games or at least competing. I mean, then you, then you're really talking about potentially keeping him long term. Because winning, as we know, winning cures all ills. And, and obviously, you know, Max Crosby, a big part of the reason they fell out of, you know, they fell out this last season is because the Raiders sucked. And if they're actually good, you know that that eliminates a lot of the issues that he has.

[Austin Gale]

The problem with the Raiders being actually good is it's been largely a fantasy for the last two decades and you know, it's like kind of hope casting or wish casting. They still have real problems with the roster. Like they need to add a nose tackle now that they're moving to a three, four. I think they need a big bodied receiver that's better than Jack Bash and Deontay Thornton. They still have holes along the offensive line. Like they're still far away from being competitive and they made this entire plan with thinking they were going to have two first in next year's draft. And like all this Crosby space. So like they have to like reset on the fly. I hope they pulled an all nighter last night. I did. I hope the front office pulled an all nighter and got back on the horse here. Let's figure out this Cousins thing, like get back on track. I think they've done the right and the early narrative has been great in terms of like we're recommitting to Crosby. Crosby was first in the building. You know, it's all, it's all there. I think, you know, they've. They're recovering from an all time unprecedented, might never ever see this again kind of thing happening them on day two of the whatever the tampering period is like. I think their response has been okay, it's the best you could ask for.

[Danny Heifetz]

And the Cousins things make sense because again, I think they really might not play Fernando Mendoza early as a rookie, maybe not the entire year. And I think just more teams should do that having the option to let

[Craig Korlbeck]

him win the game.

[Danny Kelly]

So I think also, I mean half the people's comp for him is literally Kirk Cousins

[Craig Korlbeck]

personality. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean dk, you're isn't your comp. Oh no, you have Russell.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's Flacco. Flacco on the field, Russ on the mic. But Craig. Craig actually made a pretty compelling argument that it's actually Cousins on the mic for sure.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. So I think you're right.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The other thing, I think it's earnest. He's so genuine and he's overly earnest. He's earnest Maxing.

[Danny Kelly]

Russ is guarded. Mendoza is himself. And. And I believe Kirk is as well

[Danny Heifetz]

an earnest man in an ironic world. Okay. The last thing here I just want to hit before we move on to all these other crazy stories that happen is just how Much better. Trey Hendrickson, actually. How much better is Max Crosby than Trey Hendrickson? I think the. The short answer is probably just run defense. I think cross, like, Hendrickson's just not as good at setting the edge. He's not as physical as run defender. Max Crosby is not just getting sacks, but getting tackles for loss. Hendrickson's getting sacks, but on a Bengals team that's throwing the ball, has no defense, and so he's kind of just always, you know, frankly, Hendrickson's team is playing with the lead probably easier. More sacks, and the Raiders are kind of more like behind. And it's harder for Crosby get sacks, but he's a way better run defender. It's weird that even on Friday, and this is the thing with, I think some people, like conspiracy Ravens did this. It's really weird that even on Friday night, the Ravens were like, we'll just trade two. First for Max Crosby instead of signing Trey Hendrickson. And then three days later, they had the. The post clarity of just the. What if we just signed Trey Hendrickson and kept the picks? It's weird that even four days ago, that didn't occur to them.

[Danny Kelly]

They're like, man, nobody signed Trey Hendrickson yet. I mean, Max Crosby's not two first round picks better than Trey Hendrickson. Let's just do that.

[Austin Gale]

The reports are that hendrickson wanted like 30 mil or even bigger than 30 mil. And I think what they found after, like, everyone kind of like watered down some of the Trey Hendrickson market on day one. It's like, wait, we could get him for like the same amount of money we're paying Max Crosby and get our two first round picks back. That came up in the physical X rays. It like set on the side like, wait, and they're like starting to stack it up because that's the thing. They're saying that this wasn't worth the like. Yeah, now you're measuring what Hendrickson you can get for Hendrickson. That's like the whole part of the tampering period being kind of like, I think this takes a big baseball bat to the tampering period in general, because if it leads to mistakes like this or like awkwardness like this, I do think ultimately it's just better starting free agency on Monday. Like, I think a lot of this is kind of like looking stupid from the NFL side.

[Danny Kelly]

It's. It's not a good sign or strategy or branding decision that this. This window is called the tampering period.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no, it's called legal tampering.

[Danny Kelly]

Right? Yeah. Maybe they could have changed that.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's like the Purge. It's like legal crime 48 hours. Like, what the fuck are you talking. I feel like Adam Schefter. Adam Schefter hates it. Adam Schiffer rants against this every year of like, what are we doing? Why do we call this legal tampering? He's like, the NFL pretends free agency starts at four on Wednesday. It ends at four on Wednesday.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So by the way, real quick, we started this out as a fantasy court. If this was in a fantasy league, we would kick this GM out of the league.

[Danny Heifetz]

League.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, thank God for justice.

[Austin Gale]

I'm glad there's still justice in today's world.

[Danny Heifetz]

The commissioner in a kick him off the league would be like, you're doing this trade. Don't try to. Like the. The. The pusher would come back to the group chat and be like, hey, I looked at the X rays. I don't know. You'd be like, shut the up.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's like, oh, I could get a guy off waivers for the same. Actually, I don't want to do this trick.

[Danny Kelly]

Kick him off the tour. Doug. He's not breaking any rules. Craig, I. I would go a step further.

[Austin Gale]

I want Netflix to Warner Bros. With this. I want a breakup fee. I want a second round breakup fee.

[Danny Kelly]

What's wrong with that?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Where's.

[Austin Gale]

Where's the breakup fee? Is that in play?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Give me a fourth.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Get some cap space for it.

[Danny Heifetz]

If the Eagles shook down Arizona for a third round pick to make the Jonathan Gannon tampering stuff go away after the Eagles won this or lost the super bowl in Arizona and then the Arizona took Jonathan Gannon. Honestly, the Ravens should have to do the Netflix $3 billion breakup.

[Austin Gale]

There should be something. There need to be repercussions beyond just hoping for Crosby curse.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Shake hands. Make. Make it go away.

[Danny Kelly]

So in this scenario, Mark Davis is Ted Sarandos.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Who's Brady?

[Danny Kelly]

Max Crosby is Warner Brothers and Max Crossley's Warner brothers. And Eric DaCosta is David Ellison. Paramount is that.

[Danny Heifetz]

We're saying.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Eric D. Costa is. Is Ted Sarandos.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just driving the price up.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, but. But Ted Sarando's got the breakup fee.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, we'll work on it.

[Danny Kelly]

It doesn't quite work. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

[Austin Gale]

I'm getting lost.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It actually does.

[Danny Heifetz]

People on this show produce this.

[Danny Kelly]

Interesting. It's not a one to one comparison here.

[Danny Heifetz]

So the Raiders are getting 31 a share. I don't really know. Okay, Austin, thank you for joining us. I'm genuinely sorry.

[Austin Gale]

Yeah, there's not much you can do. It's another day in the life of a Raiders fan.

[Danny Kelly]

You got good karma. Good karma coming your way.

[Austin Gale]

Better cash into some playoff wins.

[Danny Heifetz]

Go, go, go. Look at Fernando Mendoza's LinkedIn. And Fernando Mendoza is going to be hyped to play with Max Carl's dude. Just keep that in mind. Fernando Mendoza and Crosby, you can have a conversation. It'll go on Crosby's pod. And that's going to be funny.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Huge. Huge. Awesome.

[Danny Heifetz]

Thank you for joining us.

[Danny Kelly]

So the Raiders would get the breakup fee, making them Netflix, Warner Brothers.

[Danny Heifetz]

I guess the issue is that there's three parties. Why can't we figure this out?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, because it would have made like. Like the Ravens overpaid for Max Crosby. That is what Paramount did for Warner Brothers. So that works. It's. It's the reneging that messes things up. But it's fine.

[Danny Heifetz]

Are the Raiders.

[Danny Kelly]

The Raiders deserve the breakup fee because they got shafted.

[Danny Heifetz]

Got it.

[Danny Kelly]

But. But Netflix didn't get shafted is the thing. They just play their hand. Well, I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

So they're the Ravens, Netflix and Paramount.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know. Anyway, yeah. So watch our show on Netflix. That's right, watch it on Netflix. Or don't watch. When you leave your house, turn it on and let it play for your pets. Or if you don't have any pets,

[Craig Korlbeck]

do the Simpsons thing where he just has the little dropper thing. Continue to refresh. Refresh. Yes, people will know what I'm talking about.

[Danny Heifetz]

Craig, do you know what he's talking about?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't, but it's hard.

[Danny Heifetz]

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[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, we have other football stuff, but If I'm being 100% honest, I know we're a football show, but I thought it would be disingenuous to talk about the New York jets before we talked about an NBA player scoring any three points. I kind of wanted to just do it. Now somehow, Geno Smith is back on the Jets 11 years after he was punched in the face and broke his jaw and lost his starting job as a Jets quarterback.

[Danny Kelly]

What streamer are the jets to be? Peacock. I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Movie Pluto.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know Pluto.

[Danny Kelly]

What's ridiculous is those are all real companies we just named. It's like mad Pluto to be Mubi. Are all real

[Danny Heifetz]

movie and tubing. Watch us a movie and tubing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No.

[Austin Gale]

Fubo.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, Fubo. I never. I don't understand Fubo.

[Danny Kelly]

No one understands.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't. I don't understand. They're like the Saints. I don't know how they keep paying for all these things. The. But yeah. So the Raiders traded Geno Smith to the jets for basically a pick swap. The Raiders moved up 20 spots in the seventh round. Congratulations. The jets moved back 20 spots in the seventh round. And the jets get Gino Smith. They're paying him like 3 million bucks instead of 1 million. Just. They're paying him at 2 million extra. So that genius with didn't go to free agency and get the opportunity to turn down the Jets. I don't even know where to start, but I just think this is bizarre.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The reunion no one wanted to see.

[Danny Heifetz]

This is the ultimate. Beggars can't be choosers, right? Geno Smith choosing to be an adult about it. Be like, I'm excited for this opportunity, but there's no way Gino wanted to be in the jets unless he had no other choices. There's no way the jets wanted Gino unless they had no other choices. It was probably Gino and then freaking bringing Derek Carr to retirement. And they're like, all right, you know what? We're probably all we can do.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I forgot that this eliminates the Derek Carr element.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, damn it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

God.

[Danny Heifetz]

See him?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. This is bizarre. This is. It's been a tough year for Geno, and Gino stands like me because I still think he's good.

[Danny Heifetz]

You won the super bowl because your team got rid of Gino.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay, good point. I'll take it. I'll take it. But still, I do. I do think Gino is better generally. Than what he was last year. I don't know how much better he's going to be on the Jets. I don't know if the situation is altogether that much better. But hopefully, you know, he can at least salvage a little bit of his reputation this year and give the Jets a chance to compete. I know our. Our co worker slash boss Sean Fennesee all in on this move, which I absolutely love. I know.

[Danny Kelly]

I couldn't tell if that was sarcastic. Sean tweeted he's a lifelong Jets Knicks fan. He said league minimum huge win for the Garrett Wilson true believers. Gino behind a good offensive line with Mason Taylor, Breeze hall and a young wide receiver too, is kind of cool. And then Bill quote, retweeted it and said that somebody has hacked Sean's account. Because like a month ago Sean was like, I'm just taking this season off as a Jets fan. I'm done, you know? You know they say like your boss only sees you as the first job you had at the company. Unfortunately for Gino, him going back into a Jets uniform almost wipes away everything he's done after the Jets. Like, I immediately feel like it's. It's not going to work again. Him just putting on the jets helmet. We talked about how the jets need new uniforms. They especially need them now. I can't see Geno in a Jets helmet and expect it to work. I don't care how good the offensive line is.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Can the quarterback just wear a different uniform? Soccer uniform, whatever.

[Danny Heifetz]

If who's a cool team that we believe in, like the Raven, the Chargers, the Chart.

[Craig Korlbeck]

They're not cool.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's for you.

[Danny Kelly]

Are they not?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay, they're the laughing.

[Danny Kelly]

The Bills.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sure, if the. Yeah, that's new. But yeah, sure it's. The Bills are like had.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you mean that's new? Bill's been good for six years. Oh, you. What do you mean? Like historically good?

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, I just meant like blue blood cool.

[Danny Kelly]

What are the blue blood cool teams like the Niners.

[Danny Heifetz]

If the Chief sure had Armin member with first round picket right tackle and Olufashano a first picket left tackle. And then they had signed. You know, they have. Well, I guess they lost John Simpson, but then they have Garrett Wilson and they have Breeze Hall.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

AD Mitchell is like their second or third receiver. Then they bring in Gino Smith and it was one year ago when we still like Geno Smith and this was one year ago and they just didn't wear the jets uniforms. Would we be like, oh yeah, I like this. This Is smart.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. And they like top three pick in the draft get some great edge rusher. Yeah, probably, absolutely.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But here's the deal. They are the Jets.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

It is actually pretty crazy. Gino's career on the jets and after dude, on the Jets he went 12, 12 and 19. He threw 28 touchdowns, 36 interceptions and 17 fumbles.

[Danny Heifetz]

And he got punched in the face because he owed a specialty linebacker $600.

[Danny Kelly]

It took him then six years to throw for double digit passing touchdowns again. Which is pretty crazy. Six seasons before he threw for double digit passing touchdowns again and now he's back on the Jets. I was trying to find other examples of guys quarterbacks who were drafted by a team, left and came back and it worked out. The only one I could, Fran Tarkenton. That happened a long time ago in Minnesota. He left because him and the coach didn't get along. And then he left and came back and ended up winning an MVP in the 70s for Minnesota. Outside of that I think it's Nick Foles who was drafted by Philly. It didn't work out with Chip Kelly. He left, came back and obviously won a Super Bowl. He was a third round pick. Gino was the second round pick. But this is incredibly rare that a quarterback crashes and burns on a team, leaves to have a life and then comes back and it works out.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Dude. Jets fans like Gino after what happened

[Danny Heifetz]

after every Sean does Sean, so glad you asked dk. Do jets fans like Geno Smith well when he left, no, since Geno Smith played I Sam Block posted this I I this list staggered me. So Geno Smith. Since then the jets starting quarterbacks have started. Matt Sims, Michael Vick, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Bryce Petty, who I forgot existed. Josh McCown, Sam Darnold, Trevor Simeon, Luke Falk, Joe Flacco, Zach Wilson, Mike White, Josh Johnson, Chris Streveler who is in the XFL and the cfl. Aaron Rodgers, Tim Boyle to Rod Taylor, Justin Fields, Brady Cook and now back to Geno Smith. And so yeah, he's better than all those people.

[Danny Kelly]

18 quarterbacks between genos and so it's

[Craig Korlbeck]

like getting back together with your high school girlfriend when you're like in your late 30s.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it's like they made an agree like if we're Both single at 35, we'll get married.

[Danny Heifetz]

It really is marriage back. You're like wow. And then you get there and you're

[Craig Korlbeck]

like holy 100, what this is. They're like, you know what? We couldn't find anyone better. Let's just get this thing Going to

[Danny Heifetz]

save us on the they run into

[Danny Kelly]

each other at the local grocery store. How you been? I've been better.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's so good because I know I, I noticed I think a lot of jets fans and maybe this is just a few anecdotal or whatever, but I did see a lot of jets fans seem genuinely happy for Darnold when had his success. So I'm wondering if, if there's something similar happening here.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think, I mean I think what's incredible too if you just look back is how many guys played so much better later after leaving the Jets. Sam Darnold obviously is like the ultimate example probably in NFL history now. But then Geno Smith also was Geno Smith had 70 completion a few years ago. Gina Smith was incredible for the Seahawks a few years ago. But even guys like Joe Flacco had two different stints with the jets and then played so much better on even fucking Cleveland Joe Floyd. You know what embarrassing that is to leave the jets to go to Cleveland and you're a better quarterback for them. So I, I the bet. Yeah, it's just how many guys left it got better.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What do we think of this? Like Frank Reich is the offensive coordinator. I think the Jeff line is pretty good. I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think the jets are going to have the number one pick or top five pick. It's hard so it's harder. No, this is not going to work because here's why I put in my notes at the top of my jets notes for next season to not have the amnesia. The jets fired their co a third of their coaching staff two and a half almost three weeks after the season ended. They dumped eight coaches. It's like a third of their staff. D coordinator like D line linebackers, secondary quarterbacks Coach OC 2 1/2 weeks after the season. That is the dumbest thing. Like there's no good explanation for that in my opinion. And that to me just signifies how fragile the jets season is and how quickly the moment there's adversity the head Aaron Glenn's going to get dumped and all the free agent stuff they've done. They've brought in a lot of free agents but I just, I don't know. I, I it's so desperate everything the jets have done.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So can you remember a time when Sean was optimistic about the Jets?

[Danny Heifetz]

Not since I've worked Sam Darnold fantasy was very excited for darn I was there when Darnold was drafted because never

[Craig Korlbeck]

wrong, only early, you know on that one. Well, I Don't know. Maybe there's something here. Maybe Sean, maybe Sean's like the bellwether for the jet success here and maybe this will turn into something. I don't know. Well, they did spend a lot of money in free agency.

[Danny Kelly]

I think we're looking at a classic 20 touchdown, 20 pick season for Gino and they go for 13.

[Danny Heifetz]

I agree. The, the other big move here is the Colts signed Daniel Jones for two years at $88 million. Could be up to $100 million with incentives. We'll see. But overall, so the Colts had transition tag Daniel Jones for like $38 million basically. And the deal was if the nether team wants to negotiate with you, the Colts could match the offer. But no one's going to because Daniel Jones towards Achilles. It's interesting also that tearing your Achilles these days doesn't really cost you money. It just costs you a third year in your contract. So guaranteed money down the line. But the idea that if Daniel Jones had not gotten hurt, he'd probably get 50, 50 million a year, 54 million, whatever. And he tears his Achilles and he loses 7 million a year on the deal. I'm like, that's pretty good. He, I guess he loses the third year guarantees it's good for Jones. But a two year deal for $88 million, so 44 million a year. I don't know what to make of this. I think it's weird. And I just continue to believe between this and paying Alec Pierce $29 million a year, I kind of still just feel it's so strange how desperate the Colts are to keep together this team that went eight and two for two and a half month stretch.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I know. I just keep asking myself and asking you guys and asking random people walking by in the grocery store, who are they negotiating against? Who is trying to sign Daniel Jones right now?

[Danny Heifetz]

That is the right question.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Who, who are they negotiating against? Because they could have just had him on the transition tech for 37 million. I understand like trying to lock him up before he comes back and does well. But there's also a very strong chance that he does not do that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

And the entire point of the transition tag is that they believe nobody else would be making an offer for him. Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Here's where I'm surprised with this contract.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Get it.

[Danny Heifetz]

And I agree. Dick. Here's what I don't get about this deal. So I think the short answer is I don't think they're negotiating against anyone. They're negotiating against the franchise tag with the same thing that happened with Daniel Jones of the Giants. And what Kirk Cousins has done is what happens is without going too deep in the franchise tag, but reminding it's just like a one year deal sticker, you can apply, but also you don't want to let a quarterback go to free agencies so the quarterback can use it as a weapon. Dak Prescott's done this with Dallas. Let's say Daniel Jones came back next year and played great and you just had him on the tag. He comes back and you have to franchise tag, right. That number would probably be like next year like $52 million because it's the top five average. So it's 52 million this deal. The simplest version of it, it's just this year's tag and next year's tag together. It's two years, it's 90 million, 88, whatever you want to call, it's kind of like 52 if you had to tag them, 36. What I don't understand is why don't the Colts get a third year if you're going to do it? What I don't. You know what I mean? It's weird to me that what the whole point of you get the security is you might as well get a third year. If he's good, you keep him. If he's not good, you can cut him. And I think what this is is the Colt. This is in a weird way Daniel Jones kind of having his cake and eating it too. Because if he comes back and he's bad, it gets re injured. He actually still gets an extra 40 million for 20, 27. But if Daniel Jones comes back and is great, he only has to play one year this year and then he gets to renegotiate again next year because the Colts can't let him go to a contract year.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So yeah, this is, this is exactly, exactly why I'm like, I don't understand why they did this. I guess to do right by him.

[Danny Heifetz]

But no, well, I don't think they want to have him in a contract year again because next year, basically the starting point for this year's negotiations is like 37. I think this is how you got to the number.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Does it lower their cap a little bit this year? Is that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, yes, good point. That's definitely part of it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Reason.

[Danny Heifetz]

I guess it's 38 million if you carry it this year, but now you can push it later. But the basically the starting point is 38 million this year. And they're like, well, if you tag us again, it's 50. Meet us roughly halfway it becomes 44 million a year. But if next year they have to tag them. Now you're starting at 52, 53 is the base and you have to pay them like 56. But overall the larger point is they seem to think Daniel Jones is going to start for Indianapolis in week one which I hope is rehab goes well.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's the reports that are coming out today as they think he'll start.

[Danny Heifetz]

Daniel Jones has never been healthy.

[Danny Kelly]

Send him to Baltimore. Let's see if they agree.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Can he walk? I just. Daniel Jones has had spinal injuries. A torn acl, a torn Achilles, a broken leg, multiple high ankle sprains, a neck injury that lasted for three years with New York. It's just a tremendous show of faith that he can play better. And also he's a mobile quarterback coming off an Achilles injury. I'm genuinely curious how good he can be for Indianapolis if he doesn't have the mobility this year. How could he have the mobility this year?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah I get maybe it's a cap thing and they wanted to defer money to the next year but I just thought why wouldn't you just stick with the one year transition tag see how he plays and then go from there

[Danny Heifetz]

or get the more years on the deal. Two years is kind of no man's land. It's like at least have but again I don't know it's also you're keeping Alec Pierce so we'll see but I just I mean I hope the culture good but it just feels like if I told you if I gave you two options the cold surpass DK start with you but I want both of you to answer this. If the Colts surpass the Texans and the Jaguars and win the AFC south next year and are like definitely better than them or the Jaguars and Texans are obviously better than the Colts Finn make the playoffs and then the Titans are even better than the Colts and the Colts come in last place. What do you think is more likely next year?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't think they're going to come in last.

[Danny Kelly]

I. I would say the latter is more likely.

[Danny Heifetz]

I agree. I think the Colts are more likely to be worse than the Titans than be better than the Jacks.

[Danny Kelly]

The Colts are third in in division odds right now.

[Danny Heifetz]

The other the other big news this hasn't happened yet. I don't really care. We're going to talk about it like it's going to happen and if we're wrong you can just laugh at us but I we might as well just talk about like if this, if the Vikings signed Kyler Murray because I think it's going to happen.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I mean if you just throw the reporting is pointing.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's all going to look. The Browns are going to play to Sean Watson and Shooter Sanders. The Falcons signed two way to play with Michael Pennix Jr. The Cardinals have Gardner Minshew signed to play basically behind Jacoby Brissette. The Dolphins have Malik Willis and the Raiders are going to do Fernando. They're going to have draft Fernando Mendoza behind Kirk Cousins. So that unless the Steelers swoop in here with Kyler Murray or something I don't see coming. It seems like the Vikings are going to sign Kyler Murray and it's probably going to for the $1.3 million. DK do you think this is going to work? And by work I mean the Minnesota makes the playoffs and looks like a good team and Kylie looks rejuvenated with Minnesota.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, I say yes.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm more yes than no on that. You say make the playoffs, that's a tough division.

[Danny Heifetz]

But I just think there's Lions backers.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I do think that they're going to be a lot better than they were last year. I mean how bad was J.J. mcCarthy? My God, pretty horrible. I think like I think we have done a little bit of changing the narrative about Kyler based on what, what happened this last year and how they benched him and moved on. I, I do think he's better than people are kind of like painting him to be I guess. But I still have a lot of faith in Kevin o'. Connell. I still have a lot of faith obviously in, in the skill weapons skill position players that they have there. Jj, jj Justin Jefferson Hawkinson's sticking around. Addison is there. They just, they just re upped Aaron Jones to stay in for another year. So like their run game theoretically should still have guys there. I don't know. I do think that they'll be good and I think Kyler, it's going to be a very different looking offense but I still believe generally in what Kevin o' Connell is going to draw up for them.

[Danny Kelly]

I do think the kind of the Darnold thing has made this type of move now the like philosophy du jour of like oh the talented guy reclamation project on the right team can work but I do think Kyler is clearly this year's Darnold. And I mean Minnesota won nine games last year. They weren't 3 and 14. They were 9 and 8 with J.J. mcCarthy and Carson Wentz and Max Brosmer. And like if you're telling me Kyler Murray is not two games better than J.J. mcCarthy? McCarthy, like, I have to believe. I think Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray immediately becomes a fascinating fantasy option going into the season. In the same way we talked about, like, just because of the legs of Justin Fields, we felt like he was a top seven pick. I mean, Kyler Murray in. In Minnesota with Justin Jefferson and with Kevin o' Connell in a dome, Kyler was already a guy who was like a fringe top seven, top ten fantasy pick on the Cardinals when they were floundering.

[Danny Heifetz]

And they did start pretty hot a couple seasons that we chose to ignore. Like, The Cardinals started 11. Oh, and one.

[Danny Kelly]

They were always like seven and two, and then they flamed out.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, but. And that's part of. It's a mobile quarterback. He's a smaller guy. As the season goes on, he takes hits. It gets wear and tear. He's older now. Like, we've talked about all this. Like, he's too short to see over.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He got hurt, too. He had an ACL injury.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Kyler's been. Yeah, he has an acl. He said he didn't really think his name was even back really. Till last year. 100%. The difference to me is very simple. When Kyler Murray is making 50 million a year, you judge him one way. Kyler Murray, if he makes for 1 million a year, is completely different. As a percentage of cap, it's wild. Kyler Murray is literally 66 years, 60 times more expensive as a percentage to Arizona's salary cap than he was like a couple years ago than he will be to Minnesota this year.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, he will be making less than 1% of the cap.

[Danny Heifetz]

A third. Because the cap's $300 billion.

[Danny Kelly]

0.3% of the cap.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. Yeah. A third of 1%.

[Danny Kelly]

The number one overall pick who's in his 20s will be 0.3% of the Cap.

[Danny Heifetz]

And when he was on Arizona making 50 million a year, when the cap was 200 million.

[Danny Kelly]

Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was 1/4. So I'm not exaggerating. It used to be 20 and not really the cap. It was that. But the cap it for Kyler used to be more like 10 to 15%, a sixth. Now he's a third of a percent.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So he's 30, 45 times, whatever, cheaper. And that is where you're like, yeah, I don't care how he's short. I don't care about the body language. I don't care. Like, let you just roll the dice and you just be like, you know what? That's a lot of money to save. It pays for Justin Jefferson. It pays for Christian Darasaw. It pays for all these defenders you want. And also you give Kyler the opportunity because Arizona is just as bad of a franchise as the jets or the Browns or all these teams, but no one gives a shit because they're in great weather and it's a fun city and no one cares. But. But I do think Minnesota's gonna have to change the offense, though. And I'm curious who you think dk, But I do think Kevin o'. Connell. This isn't like a Kyler Murray is a. Oh, he'll do a Shanahan thing and he'll do it under center, drop back like Kyler Murray needs to be in shotgun. And Minnesota's gonna have to change how they play. Yeah, but I think this is. Not every coach is capable of doing that. We'll change our system to what the players do best. Everyone says they want to do it. No one actually is capable. People aren't always capable of it. I think Kevin o' Connell does have to change what the Vikings do to fit Kyler specifically. Like, quicker stuff, more stuff to the outside, less crossers over the middle, depending on Kyler to see over his guards. Consistency, playing rhythm over the middle. But I think it's unequivocally worth it. And this is definitely Minnesota's best shot to compete in a very difficult division.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yes. It's like crazy that this is sort of falling into their laps on this. I'm surprised there wasn't more competition for it.

[Danny Heifetz]

It.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You know, it feels a little bit like last year where I don't remember the exact timeline, but there was like a four or five day period where the Seahawks had traded away Geno and didn't have a quarterback and. But they had already done like a handshake deal that it was going to be Darnold. This is kind of how it feels for me. Like this is Kyler's handpicked destination. He wants to go play with o'. Connell. And again, this is all assuming this actually does happen. If it doesn't happen, we can delete this whole thing. But it does feel like such a good situation for the Vikings. Almost like a perfect situation considering there are other options right now, which is stick with JJ McCarthy, who's clearly not ready. Go and grab a guy like Anthony Richardson, who's also a massive project and maybe not ready, probably not ready. Or grab this veteran guy for a million dollars who was the first overall pick in the draft.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I mean it's not a one to one comparison at all. But my mind immediately jumped to the Mavericks trading away Luca and then getting the first overall pick in the draft. I'm like, they literally let Sam Darnold go and now Kyler Murray walked in. He's like hey, what's up? I only cost a million dollars and I'm the first overall pick. And they're like great, come on in.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Speaking of rolling the dice though, all these quarterback pieces are falling. What are the Steelers going to do if Aaron Rodgers decides to retire?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I He's, he's. This is why he's like sticking around and not doing anything.

[Danny Kelly]

The Steelers are once again the Steelers are once again trying to win now. They signed a 28 year old Michael Pittman. They have 29 year old Jamel Dean like Cam Hayward. Cam Hayward resigned. They are, they are fully trying to win right now. And if Aaron Rodgers decides to not play football anymore, are they going to go get Anthony Richardson? Are we going to go play with Mason Rudolph and Will Howard? What the fuck's going to happen?

[Danny Heifetz]

No way. Adam Schefter said this morning that and he seemed very confident that Rodgers was playing a Kirk Cousins is plan B.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, well Kirk looks like he's going to Vegas. No.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well that's here's. Here's my guess with it. Aaron Rodgers and I this sounds a little insane. I think Aaron Rodgers has told them privately he'll probably come back. I think Aaron Rodgers this is last year. I It's the same as last year. Brett Favreau, Aaron Rodgers, if you'll remember this. Yeah. Brett Favre used to skip training camp because he didn't want to fly him

[Craig Korlbeck]

in on like a private jet two

[Danny Heifetz]

days before the season starts because they made him run. They used to make quarterbacks run during practice this and he didn't want to do it as too hard Aaron Rodgers version of that and I'm serious is he got bullied so much by the New York media for skipping OTAS to film his Netflix doc the Pyramids about how he built the pyramids Egypt that

[Danny Kelly]

he which is available on Netflix.

[Danny Heifetz]

Great, great programming. Put it on Netflix. Incredible.

[Danny Kelly]

Enigma. It's called Enigma. I watched two of the first three.

[Danny Heifetz]

Amazing. And he was finish it so upset with how he was treated for skipping OTAS that the timing last year you will never convince me otherwise. That Aaron Rodgers announced the timing of sign with the Steelers because he didn't want to go to OTAS for the Steelers again and he didn't want to be criticized for skipping OTAs. So his very mature reaction to this was, I won't even sign until after OTAs, so no one can even ask me if I'm there. I'll skip them. By not even signing up. I think he's doing it again. He's going to play them.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But what did we talk about at the beginning of the year? There was issues getting on the same page with his receivers and getting offense.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. And I'm like, oh, my God, maybe show up to the fucking.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Maybe he should have gone to OTAs.

[Danny Kelly]

No, no. He'll fly him out to Malibu. They'll practice out in California. Pittman, D.K. and there are other wide receivers who are.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know who they're going to be named.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, the OTA thing drives me up a wall because I get why veteran quarterbacks don't want to go. Because it's kind of like if you're a high school, you're like a college senior or whatever, going to syllabus week or whatever. You're like, I know this shit. Like, it's. The receivers are learning the name of the fucking plays in these. These things that you're like, you can't even begin to talk to me until you've been here for weeks. I get that you don't want to be there for the one on one. All you need to know is this. Tom Brady didn't miss otas until his 20th season. Patrick Mahomes still go to Otas. That is, I believe, one third of the super bowl representatives from the AFC in our entire lives is Tom Brady. And Mahomes, if they go, why the fuck aren't you there? And you know why? It's not about the place. Mahomes says it's about getting to know the guys. It's about trust. It's getting to know them. Relationships.

[Danny Kelly]

Also, this is a. It's not Mahomes who's been on the Chiefs for 10 years. This is a new set, new coach, new coordinator to plays. Everything's new. Even though he's been with McCarthy before, it's like, it's new. He's a new receiver. Like, also, Omar Khan in Indianapolis, when we were there, said technically, to my face that we're going to find out much earlier this time. We're not going to let this drag out. So now if it does drag out, that's just such a weak look from Omar Khan, who's basically like, yeah, Aaron Rodgers has us by the balls.

[Danny Heifetz]

If they genuinely. Steelers genuinely didn't know. I think they would have done something. Unless they're actually delusional enough to think that Will Howard can compete, which you can't rule out.

[Danny Kelly]

I like Will Howard hard.

[Danny Heifetz]

I six round pick has never had as much confidence from it.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, Pittsburgh loves Will Howard.

[Danny Heifetz]

Will Howard wasn't even that good at Ohio State.

[Danny Kelly]

He was good in the playoffs. He was good in the playoffs.

[Danny Heifetz]

Please.

[Danny Kelly]

He was. He was great in the playoffs. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

How many first round picks was on the goddamn team?

[Danny Kelly]

All I'm saying is he played quarterback. All I'm saying is he played quarterback well in the playoffs. You cannot dispute that.

[Danny Heifetz]

The cop. Sure. And then so well, he moved from the seventh round to the sixth round.

[Danny Kelly]

Sure.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, sure. If the this maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm giving the Steelers too much credit. I'm saying if they did not privately they hired Mike McCarthy who coached Aaron Rodgers for like 10 years. Like.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm just saying I'm tired of giving the Steelers credit. They got last on the. I think they really don't know anything

[Danny Heifetz]

and they actually know.

[Danny Kelly]

No, but what I think is, I think it's the same thing as last year. But again the fact that Omar Khan. We'll see. It's only March 11th. We'll see. But the fact that Omar Khan was like one thing I can tell you about this year. It's not going to drag out like it did last year. If that happens again, that will tell me that the Steelers actually don't have a great plan and that once again it's all up to Rogers. But I would like to agree with you if it's that they know exactly what's going to happen.

[Danny Heifetz]

But maybe I'm giving too much credit. We'll see.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But these are the remaining open chairs in this game of musical chairs for quarterbacks.

[Danny Heifetz]

Right.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like what anyone else out there.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean I would just be stunned if the Browns were not going to like the Browns have Shador Sanders, who wasn't. I believe Jimmy Haslam, the owner wanted Shador Sanders and then Deshaun Watson who's getting $46 million. I don't think the Browns are going to bring in more money at quarterback to have a third quarterback there because one of those guys wouldn't get reps other than that the Saints, I mean we go through the teams it's like Bucks have Baker, Saints have shuck. Carolina has to seen too much from Bryce Young. Falcons have penix into a Cardinals. They signed Gardner. I mean maybe the Cardinals. But I'm like I think the Cardinals 1% Gardner Minshew to tank for sure. Coming for 20 Seal Rams 49ers. Seahawks do not need quarterbacks. Raiders do not need a quarterback if they sign Kirk Herbert to the Chargers, Mahomes to the Chiefs, Broncos, Bo Nicks. Unless Trump Payton's gonna bail on Bo Nicks. And then it's like the AFC South. They just literally all those teams have a number two quarter like, like a first or second overall pick a quarterback in the Colts signed Daniel Jones, AFC north as Lamar, Joe Burrow and then the Browns and Steelers. AFC says Josh, the Dolphins just signed Willis, the Patriots have Drake May and the jets just traded for Gino. So yeah, I think.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And then NFC Brown, it's Browns and then Browns talking about the Steelers, Vikings.

[Danny Kelly]

We got to get Derek Carr to the Browns.

[Danny Heifetz]

Maybe Eagles competition.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Why would he come out of retirement for that?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm trying to think of the single most depressing thing possible.

[Danny Heifetz]

I want to talk. I want to hit bam. Hitting the 83 in the world Baseball Classic. But first, the NFL is considering adding a game Wednesday night before Thanksgiving. Craig, I've said for a long time that I sometimes we had too many NFL games and you're like, fuck. And I'm like, you know what? Like people like the NFL. I'll admit this is too far.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, finally.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Finally. This is jump. The short is like, look, look, our show is about the NFL, so we probably should want more NFL NFL games. But here's where I draw the line.

[Danny Heifetz]

Unless they're literally on Australia for time zone purposes, I do think NFL games on Wednesdays, that's not like Christmas Day. It's over the line. Like adding an NFL game on Wednesday, which means more teams have to play on the previous Saturday. I. I think that's too much. I think that they're. Fuck. They're fucking around.

[Danny Kelly]

Schefter tweeted about it. He's making up names for days. He called it Thanksgiving Eve. No one fucking calls it that.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're going to invent it. It's like fucking, I don't know. Didn't used to be Father's Day.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it's ridiculous.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Thanksgiving Eve, AKA when you go out in your hometown and see all your friends from high school and everybody gets

[Danny Heifetz]

giving, AKA drunk getting.

[Danny Kelly]

I think they are watering down the product. And there's too many games on too many nights. And this will be. If this happens and there's a game on Thanksgiving Eve, there will be seven games in nine nights, which I think is personally ridiculous. We will Have a game the day before Thanksgiving, three games on Thanksgiving, a Black Friday game and then game Sunday and Monday. It's baseball.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's Sunday, then Monday, a full Sunday, then Monday Night Football, Wednesday Night Football three on Thursday, Black Friday, three on Saturday probably and then Sunday. So yeah, seven and nine or eight

[Danny Kelly]

and like it's that there's no Saturday games around Thanksgiving.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, they might do it the week after. They'll have to put the week the Wednesday teams on. I forget the don't make me do the math in March for the games. But they're going to have to do the Saturdays eventually.

[Danny Kelly]

I just. I don't know. And look, I'm fully aware I tweeted about it. A lot of people commented, half agreed with me and half thought I was dumb and that more football equals thumbs up. And I get that because this is a job as much as it is fun for us. So it changes things a little bit. But I really feel like I would think this way even if I didn't have this job.

[Danny Heifetz]

No football is Sunday, Monday and Thursdays and now just every holiday. Holiday. But I do think that is the

[Craig Korlbeck]

deal is the delineation in your mentions Craig. The people who like spending time with their family and the people.

[Danny Kelly]

Everyone who's divorced and single loves it.

[Danny Heifetz]

But also like 50 setting a fantasy lineup.

[Craig Korlbeck]

How much do you want to hang out with your wife or girlfriend?

[Danny Heifetz]

That's.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That is the question that we first must ask.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. So anyway, we have a lot of time. We'll see if they actually do it too. Okay. We have to talk about the Miami Heat and Bam Adebayo scoring 83 points in an NBA game. And at one point it was wild. It's very cool. Passes Kobe. Only person who scored more points in the game is Wilt Chamberlain. Also kind of a total sham that nobody in the NBA seemed to respect. I think I heard that. Dk. That is a ship. You and your Gen Z people. The conspiracy. I actually think the biggest winner from all this is Wilt Chamberlain. Because the idea that Bam could score 83 in an NBA game in 2026. Will Chamberlain is playing against part time electricians. Like he. The difference in what band did and what Will did is two extra baskets a quarter. I'm kind of like of course that in 1962.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I mean yeah, I was. It was. Although possessions were way longer back then. Now it's like everyone's shooting so quickly and there's also three point lines and stuff.

[Danny Heifetz]

But.

[Danny Kelly]

But. But fair point. The this is cool objectively I showed up to a rec basketball league game last night and I saw that Bam had 43 at half and I was like, holy, holy shit.

[Danny Heifetz]

31 of the first quarter.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Set the Miami Heat quarter record over LeBron 83 is crazy. The only. The only issue I have is that it's really 79. Because at the end of the game, the final two minutes, the Miami Heat players were deliberately fouling the Wizards players so that they could get the ball back so that Bam could score. Which is fucking lame.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, the whole thing though. And again, I tried to watch this live and I got to tell you, being in dc, it was impossible. Possible because like it was blacked out and it was. It was all horrible. But I. I then did go back and was able to watch it when it edited.

[Danny Kelly]

I love that you can't watch local games in cities.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's impossible.

[Danny Kelly]

You can't watch the Wizards play.

[Danny Heifetz]

And it was a sh. It's. Anyway,

[Danny Kelly]

Bam was incredible. I mean, he was hitting.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was amazing.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. But he's out of control.

[Danny Heifetz]

Aim became like, other guys have done this. Which is the weird, uncomfortable part of the conversation is. Is Joel Embiid of. Of all people had 70 and three quarters and they took him out.

[Danny Kelly]

Clay had 60 something in three quarters.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. And so. Which is kind of cooler. But so Bam, they started chasing it, which. I get it. That's fine. I totally understand chasing it. And like going for the record, because it is like immortality to some degree. The game just became like total slop. The Wizards are the. The tanking and the NB we're not gonna have a tanking.

[Danny Kelly]

It became a sideshow. It became like a Harlem Globetrotter performance cuz the Wizards.

[Danny Heifetz]

So he shot 4 DK. I don't know if you saw the box score. Bam shot 43 free throws. DK.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Danny Heifetz]

I. I didn't.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The thing that stood out to me is he. He made 36 free throws.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's insane. And so like the game, I was like, I thought it be cool.

[Danny Kelly]

Better than LeBron maybe.

[Danny Heifetz]

The F. The first half was cool to watch. The second half was like an abomination. And because what happened was the Wizards just started fouling him because to have him miss. Then Bam started just making all the free throws. So then the Wizards started fouling other

[Craig Korlbeck]

players so that the Wizards were actively trying to not let him score.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. So they didn't want to get.

[Craig Korlbeck]

They didn't want to be the footnote in history. Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Then the Heat started fouling the Wizards back to extend possessions Then I looked it up. That's what happened. Game scored 100 is. It's the same thing as the team was like this. He can't have 100. So they started following him. He started making the free throws and then they just had a foul line off. And that is apparently how Wilt got to under two. So I don't know. It was kind of.

[Craig Korlbeck]

How do they know that? Because no one saw that game. I.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's true. It didn't happen.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What. What, what was Kobe's game like that.

[Danny Kelly]

So I, I. Kobe. Bam. The heat were up 15 and a half. Kobe was down 15 at half in the game that he scored 81. They ended up winning by like 15 in. In the fourth quarter. They pulled away, but it was a relatively close game. Also, Kobe shot half the amount of free throws that Bam did in the 81.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Free throw it.

[Danny Kelly]

Kobe shot less than half as much as Bam when he put up 80.

[Danny Heifetz]

One of the best moments in the history of Twitter pre. The Elon Musk version was in. Kobe just started. He didn't even know how to do a thread. But like in 2013, Kobe just was like, had an off day and he was watching NBA TV and he was like, I've never watched this game. And he just started live tweeting it during the game. His own thoughts. And at one point he was like, down 14. I'm heating up at this point. I wouldn't have passed the kidneys stone. And he just like has his running thoughts rewatching it. It was actually incredible.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's great.

[Danny Kelly]

We could argue that Klay Thompson, what he did, arguably the most impressive.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The most impressive was that Craig somehow turned this into a war.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Craig turned it into.

[Danny Kelly]

Clay Thompson had.

[Danny Heifetz]

Don't be Bill with Jason Tatum.

[Danny Kelly]

Clay Thompson had 60 points in 29 minutes. And then it was cool. That is on pace for. And then they benched him because the team was winning by a lot of. He was on pace for 100. A legitimate 100.

[Danny Heifetz]

On pace for 101 quarter.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Was that the one where he hit like 15 threes?

[Danny Kelly]

No, that, that. No, that was when he had. Well, you're talking about the game where he had 36 and a quarter.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, more point he had. He had. How many dribbles did he have?

[Danny Kelly]

He had like 30, 12 dribbles or something.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dribbles.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

The. It's cool that to be. Bam is an awesome guy. Bam is very cool. Bam is one of. Zach Lowe, who's now our ringer colleague, has one of my favorites profiles of an athlete at espn, which I. If you don't know who Bam is, I recommend reading it. But one of the. They talk about how Bam had one of the best pre draft interviews ever, and that Bam had this line. And also he, like, basically he lived in a trailer with his mom, and just like, he's very singularly focused on basketball. And they were like, so what do you like to do? Like, do you, like, party? Do you have any hobbies? And all his draft interviews and Bam every time was like, I like. He Sundays, I do three things every day. I play basketball, hang out with my mom, and I take shits. And he said this to everybody.

[Danny Kelly]

Also, one of the great names. Bam Adebayo.

[Danny Heifetz]

Great name, unbelievable name. And he. When he first got to the NBA, he just lived in this giant Miami high rise, and it was just. He bought an apartment for his mom, and he just lived one floor above his mom in this high. And he just. He had the, like, little. His little white dogs. The little bichon.

[Danny Kelly]

Sure could be a bichon.

[Danny Heifetz]

He had a little Sean Bijon Robinson. I don't know. It's. Bam's a cool guy. And that was. And now he's dating Asia Wilson.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it was nuts. I mean, for his size. What he was doing in that game yesterday was pretty remarkable. Just at the edges of. It's very 2026. For it to become what it became, people would have.

[Danny Heifetz]

Here's the thing, though. Everyone's salty about it. No one in the elite wanted to give this any respect. Like, I was shocked how many NBA players wouldn't even pretend that it was cool. People are mad. All the Kobe fans are angry.

[Craig Korlbeck]

My impression online was that everyone was saying, this is.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, yeah, it is cool. I actually think a lot of the fouls, if you watch, were not bullshit on Bam. Like, he was getting fouled pretty hard, and it's. And that was real. And he hit his free throws, but you have to give it to him. The only thing I'm mad about is the very end to get him from. I think it was 79 to 83. Was like, okay, this is an actual. But they were up 30 and they were deliberately fouling Washington.

[Danny Heifetz]

Every team in the NBA would have done that. It's just the game in that 90 seconds.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, a lot of records have that little tiny asterisk.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm kind of dead inside now about points. It's like, oh, Devin Booker at 65. I'm like, okay, well, it used to

[Danny Heifetz]

be it's kind of like field goals where it's like we used to cut live to a 60 yard field goal. There were four in the entire 20th century. Now it's like there's like four a week. When someone scored 50, someone scored 40. You like led sports better. And it's like the proliferation of that now, it's like it barely registered. It barely hits the Richter scale. Someone gets.

[Craig Korlbeck]

We need more teamwork.

[Danny Kelly]

And if somebody does go crazy like Bam. Scores 83, it's like pitchforks are out. It was illegitimate. You fraudulent. Like I'm gonna pick this apart.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I will say there is something a little bit. It feels selfish to have that kind of scoring record. You know what I mean? You're like, okay, well pass the ball.

[Danny Heifetz]

You're 31 in the first quarter.

[Danny Kelly]

They won for any team, they won by like 20. But yeah, no, I know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm just saying that's. There is something to that. Where it's different in other sports.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sucks. Cannot stress about this.

[Danny Kelly]

He had 43 field goal attempts and 43 free throw attempts.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's what did he. How many of you make it?

[Craig Korlbeck]

46 free throws.

[Danny Kelly]

So he, he shot the ball 86 times.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

Like the ball left his hands 86 times.

[Danny Heifetz]

83 points. Is that true? 83 points at 86 attempts.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This is like my. Well.

[Danny Kelly]

And I'm counting each free throw attempts.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Calvin, my six year old has. Has. He has basketball game tonight. Going to his games, it's like the kids just drove off the court and shoot it. Like there's no passing staff.

[Danny Kelly]

Ruined the game.

[Danny Heifetz]

I will say it's funny. Wait, can I recommend this? Pull up whatever your preferred ESPN or whatever. Just the scoreboard and hit Tuesday. If you just scroll through the top performers, it's fucking crazy to see 83.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm like just. Just 83 points, nine rebounds. It's unbelievable to just see 100 is up.

[Craig Korlbeck]

100 is up there. With all time unbreakable records like Cal Ripken Jr. Games straight.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, oh, I don't know. I. I don't think so. I think Ripken is way more unbreakable than 100. I think somebody could think so.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Now with the way the game is

[Danny Heifetz]

now, I think people could break 100 seeing Bam. I think what everyone in the NBA said. Kristaps Porzingis said there's like four players who are like honestly shocked it was Bam. Then thought it was an insult. Be like no credit to him, but just like that's not kind of player. I agree.

[Craig Korlbeck]

First of all, his previous career high was 41.

[Danny Heifetz]

He broke his.

[Austin Gale]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Broke his career at high at halftime. Wembanyama could do this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And also I think there's a non zero chance another team does 70 versus the Wizards this year or the Jazz like these team also part of it said it was in Miami. I don't know when the Wizards got to Miami, whether the night before, the night after, but they were going to just party and they're excited to be 20 years old and rich in Miami. Like that is not, not part of it because I was also reading more about the Wilt game and the starting center that was playing against Wilt was hungover and they called it the flu but he didn't play because he had just been partying the sand. It's the same thing with those Wizards team. How long were they in Miami? They were probably just excited to go to fucking Live fair. This episode is brought to you by Netflix. All right, baseball fans, get ready. For the first time in history, the major league season kicks off with one exclusive opening night game live on Netflix. The New York Yankees, led by seven time all star Aaron Judge, roll into the San Francisco Bay to battle Rafael Devers and the San Francisco Giants. The wait is over. It's time to play ball. Watch MLB Opening Night, the New York Yankees versus the San Francisco Giants live on Netflix. Wednesday, March 25th at 8:00pm Eastern Time, 5:00pm Pacific Time.

[Danny Kelly]

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[Craig Korlbeck]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Heifetz]

Okay. Speaking of debacles, I gotta tell I can't. I've been waiting to talk to you guys about this all day. We haven't talked about this. The World Baseball Classic. We're getting more into baseball this year. This is a story about this country. I can't believe this. But basically, if you haven't heard, the Americans are in the World Baseball Classic. They rigged the entire tournament. And they have a lot of great players in Aaron Judge. All the stars are in the World Baseball Classic for the most part. They rigged it so that America could play Japan in the finals again because they won Ohtani. They did. They rigged the field. And America somehow is almost going to blow it. And we'll see. It's Wednesday. We're recording this. It might already be Thursday. You might know what happened But America somehow lost to Italy in baseball on Tuesday night. And that's bad enough. It was 8 to 1 at one point. They lost 8 to 6. The manager of the USA team had no idea that the game mattered. That's no clue. And, like, the amount of comments, the amount of like the wire, like, are you taking notes on a criminal conspiracy? The amount of things this man said publicly to indicate. He said our ticket was punched to the quarterfinals.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This was in an interview before the

[Danny Heifetz]

game on Mob tv, which they then took down when they lost the game. Him. And he's like, well, that's not what I meant.

[Craig Korlbeck]

They're burying the evidence.

[Danny Heifetz]

The amount of things this guy said, which were. He said the boys were celebrating until the wee hours of the night.

[Danny Kelly]

The boys were buzzing. And guess what?

[Craig Korlbeck]

They're dragging us a little bit this morning.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was saying they were partying in the locker room. Then we partied in the bus, went back to the hotel. He said, we partied in the hotel. He's like, yeah, we got some guys dragging today.

[Craig Korlbeck]

We're talking about off season baseball hive. It's. Come on.

[Danny Heifetz]

What do you expect? I know they asked about managing the game tonight. He said, we got to get some guys off their feet. And like, he was talking about. He's like, they rested all their guys.

[Craig Korlbeck]

How did no one tell him this game matters?

[Danny Heifetz]

How did nobody tell him?

[Craig Korlbeck]

How did no one know that?

[Danny Heifetz]

And on top of that, the runs matter for the point differential. So he didn't do sub. We could go into all the subs. This guy had no fucking clue how.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't want to.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm not trying. I'm not trying to diminish Italy's feet here in. In the term. In terms of historical upsets. I'm not trying to, like, like, be a wet blanket about this, but I actually looked at the. The Italian roster last night for the World Baseball Classic. There's three players that were born in Italy on that team.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Yeah. It's a lot of people with Italian heritage. Like, I would be on that team, right?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, if Ireland made a team, I'd probably be on it.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So just saying that. I'm not diminishing anything, but there were three players from. There was three players from Italy, two players from Venezuela, one in from Canada, and then the rest are from the

[Danny Heifetz]

Jersey Shore, the New Jersey MLB players.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But they're all Americans, basically, so I don't know. Look, this story is hilarious. I don't know how much more you want to go into this actual loss. I want to talk about Cal Raleigh versus Randy Rosareda.

[Danny Kelly]

Another piece of drum.

[Danny Heifetz]

Shake each other's hands. That was amazing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The World Baseball Classic has turned into Must See tv, I got to say.

[Danny Kelly]

But did you see this? I did, but didn't he do. There was an interview after. Nobody knows like what happened and if he was kidding or not.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No one can tell if they, they were kidding or not. I think what I've been able to kind of glean from this whole thing is they weren't kidding, but it's not as big of a deal as everyone's making it out to be. So basically what happened is if you didn't see it, Cal Raleigh is a Mariners catcher. He was catching for the United States 60 home.

[Danny Heifetz]

The big ass guy, Big dumper. Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Randy Rosarena, who is also on the Mariners playing for Mexico and went up in an at bat, which apparently you heard about afterwards. Like, Randy was told that he's not going to shake your hand. Like, this is an American team thing. We're not shaking our teammates hands. We're doing like the Kobe vs. Paul Gasol thing where we're getting really into this. This is exactly like Danny Rojas versus zero or whatever on Ted Lasso where he's like, we're teammates in this other team, but when we're playing international ball, it's like prison rules or whatever. So anyways, Randy Rosarena goes up to Cal Raleigh and tries to shake his hand. Like, like, first of all, you never shake my hand. Like, batters don't go up to catchers and like shake their hand.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe the knuckle touch, like, he probably would have knuckle touched a handshake is

[Craig Korlbeck]

a lot, I think. Yeah. But anyway, so. And Cal Raleigh refused and apparently after like, I think Rosarina said that, he's like, he said, nice to see you. Like, refused to shake his head. And then Rosarito, after the game was doing an interview and he like, he, he's. He did much of it in Spanish and it was basically like, look, there's some lost in translation here. But he basically told him to go himself or go to hell or depending on how you, you want to translate it. It's like eat a dick or something like that. He, he was like, basically like, tell him to off off.

[Danny Heifetz]

Scholars maintain.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, and I literally was going into like Reddit threads trying to figure out exactly what he had said meant in, in Spanish slang.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But anyways, it was like go to hell. But, but very forcefully. So anyways, yeah, I Love this. It's hilarious. Cal Raleigh came out today and said, like. He's like, that's my brother. We're fine. This is nothing. We haven't heard yet from Rosarena, but, man, I'm like, all in on this. I think it's hilarious, but also maybe a little concerning for my Mariners. Hopefully this doesn't create a rift.

[Danny Kelly]

I love the World Baseball Classic's fun. Yeah, I feel like we are really peaking right now in international sport. Like, just countries playing each other is working better now than ever. Just like us, Canada, hockey, world baseball class. It's like as we. We're just in as many sports as possible possible. We just need to get countries to play one another.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, we're making the World Cup a little different right now, but otherwise I agree. Yeah, sure, World Cup's a little challenging, but no, the USA Hockey thing, the NHL, the League of nations was brilliant. That was incredible. And then, yeah, the USA Mexico game was very intense. And then, hold on, I found. Oh, the other part of the Rosa Raina thing he said was, thank God that Cal Raleigh has good parents. His parents very well educated. Thank God. I got to see him at the hotel two days ago. They came, they said hello to me, gave me a big hug.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, that was another part of the translation thing. Apparently. He said they were very respectful. Not.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, yeah, they said they were very respectful. And he was like, your parents are great. Don't know what's wrong with you.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. To me, it just like, feels like he's saying this with just a little glint in his eye.

[Danny Kelly]

I kind of agree, but I. I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And then he was like, I'm gonna. I'm gonna say something to him in Mexican Spanish, and then in Cuban Spanish. And then he kind of walked off. It's pretty funny.

[Danny Heifetz]

Incredible.

[Danny Kelly]

Incredible.

[Danny Heifetz]

But, yeah, I. I agree. Yeah, the. The. The World Baseball Classic's been great. It's been very fun. I know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm like, I'm going to watch it now.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, I gotta tell you, I think until this year's World Series or last year's World Series, whatever you call it, the. That. Which was probably one of the better World Series ever. I thought the best baseball I'd watched in a long time was Ohtani pitching to close out the World Baseball classic against, like, three MVPs in a row. It was like, yeah, Bets and then Freeman and, like. And Mike Trout. And I'm like, this is crazy that the hater is about to strike out three guys in a row.

[Danny Kelly]

One MVP Also, just the pandemonium of him in Japan is every time. God, it's unbelievable.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude, did you see the video of. There's a couple Japanese guys that came over to MLB this year that are incredible. Like, there's a lot of very, very, like, highly hyped players came over. And I forget one of his names, but I think he's the first baseman or third baseman that came over. I forget what team signed with, but there was a video Ohtani trying to, like, he was like, trying to fix his, like, stance a little like where he held the bat. And he just was explaining. He was trying to move his elbow angle, like just a little.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He.

[Danny Heifetz]

He just was. He basically saying, move your bat back one inch and tuck your elbow in one inch. And it was kind of like adjusting someone's golf stance a little. And. And they had like a 90 second conversation where you could just see them doing it. And the next, that bat, he hit a grand slam.

[Danny Kelly]

No.

[Danny Heifetz]

And it was. It was unbelievable. But yeah, like, holy shit, I should

[Craig Korlbeck]

do that every time.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Toddy just fixed this way. It was crazy. Okay, let's do a couple emails to get out of here.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Let's do it. Also, breaking news. Diggy Osa. Diggy Sua was traded to the 49ers.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know if that Cowboys traded with 49ers

[Craig Korlbeck]

there. So there's that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, wait. Also, hold on. Schefter posted that Ravens GM Eric DaCosta said that after losing their starting center Tyler Linderbaum to the Raiders, they were interested in pairing together Trey Hendrickson and Mac Crosby. But Crosby medical exam put an end to that discussion. There's also what Hendrickson said.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, there's a quote already up from Da Costa's press conference. I'm not listening to it, but I can. They. They wrote down the quote. He said. He said he had buyer's remorse quote. I understand it. We live in that age of skepticism and people question. I have a responsibility to the Ravens. Nobody is more upset about this than me. Gutted by it. Actually, I regret

[Craig Korlbeck]

nobody's more upset about it.

[Danny Kelly]

He's gutted by this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's like, I'm gonna love using those first round picks, though. It's gonna be awesome. Can't wait for that.

[Danny Heifetz]

He probably does feel.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Feel good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, Like I will say, though, I don't think this is a master plan.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, it's very embarrassing for the Ravens.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's very embarrassing. Like, this is humiliating because they. They really care about, like, holding themselves in higher esteem. And yeah, as you said, it's push league. That's all brutal. All right, wait. I want to read this one email. I'm gonna. I want to just tell you guys a story. So we don't bring up Donald Trump a lot on this show, but I did have to read you guys. Did you see the Wall Street Journal article about how Donald Trump. Trump is obsessed with this pair of shoes, and the shoes, yeah, he buys for everyone in his cabinet, and they all wear them because you guys don't buy me shoes. I should. But Trump buys everyone the shoes that he wears and that everyone wears them because they're afraid that they'll insult him. So they all wear these shoes. But the best part is that Trump does not. And this is everyone. Rubio. This is, like, his entire cabinet. Everyone gets these shoes. The best part, though, and my favorite part of this story, is that Trump does not ask them what size their shoe is. He just guesses.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's just sizing them up.

[Danny Heifetz]

He just guesses. And so none of them fit. They're all too small or they're all too big. So they all have to just kind of sack up and, like, wear these shoes that do not fit them and, like, be in pain all day.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Jesus.

[Danny Heifetz]

And it was about how all this Trump sitter circle, like, hates the shoes they wear constantly, but no one wants to not wear them.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wish I wasn't wearing this shirt.

[Danny Kelly]

And so Trump takes the time to guess everyone's shoe size.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, he just orders them in bulk.

[Danny Kelly]

And he's like, why doesn't he have, like, an assistant? Find out everyone's size?

[Danny Heifetz]

I. No one knows, Craig.

[Craig Korlbeck]

These are the questions someone should be asking.

[Danny Heifetz]

No one knows.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like how he avoids doing work. He's like, I have a lot of things to do.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I gotta.

[Danny Kelly]

I gotta guess every single person's foot size, shoe size.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think that's a window into the man. Man's mind as we go through various world events as he just guesses people's shoe sizes. But this story particularly hit me because my dad, who's also from Queens, also does this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He buys people shoes.

[Danny Heifetz]

He guesses everyone is. No, not like everyone has to wear shoes. My dad and dad, if you're listening, I love you. My dad will buy me a gift. Like, he'll buy me shirts. Does not ask me what my size is. He just guesses.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There's something old school about sizing someone up with guesses.

[Danny Heifetz]

And I don't know if it's a boomer thing that your clothes don't Well,

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, at this point, you are who you are. He. I mean, you're either like a medium, a large, or an xl. He knows by now, right?

[Danny Heifetz]

He doesn't know. So he'll buy me a shirt. And I'm like, do you want me to, like, try it on and we'll return it? And he's like, no, no, no. And he just sent me. He just would send me a shirt. I'm like, dad, this doesn't fit. And he's like, yes, it does. I'm like, no, no, no, Dad, I appreciate this gift. He gaslights me, but this does not fit me. I can't wear this. I look ridiculous. It's like, I look like a pirate. I'm like, these sleeves. I can't wear this. And he's like, you're being ridiculous. Ridiculous. Just accept the shirt.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you do? I would send him a photo and be like, look at me.

[Danny Heifetz]

He doesn't care. I FaceTime. I'm like, this doesn't fit. I'm sending this back.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And he's like. I'm like, like, dad, there's an article in the Wall Street Journal I. That doesn't. My shirt doesn't fit. You're embarrassing me.

[Danny Heifetz]

So I read this, and I was like, oh, my God.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You're like, this is too real.

[Danny Kelly]

I gotta say, it's a queen's thing. That is real alpha behavior. To be like, I'll tell you what your shoe size is.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, right? It's insane. That's actually crazy. It's just so pathetic that his underlings

[Craig Korlbeck]

just get their own size.

[Danny Kelly]

It's more work, what he's doing.

[Danny Heifetz]

The shoes are $145.

[Danny Kelly]

Does Trump get like. Are they like, hey, this guy mark here is 63205. And then Trump's like, 12.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm 642-25. So you must be.

[Danny Kelly]

Does Trump have, like, a file of feet picks that he then judges shoe size with?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, maybe. Yeah. He just. Yeah, they released the files. Yeah, he's got all everyone's feet. Yeah, that one blew my mind. So, yeah, I have another email here also.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Just.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sorry. I found this from last year's email. I wanted to read this, but this is from Cam.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow, Cam.

[Danny Heifetz]

We talked about March Madness and Venmo. And Venmo has this problem where every year in Venmo, the biggest spike they get all year is March Madness. Everyone, when they can't report it as gambling, pizza to do so he has, like, pizza. And then Venmo sits here and just sees someone getting we had so many pizza parties.

[Craig Korlbeck]

We also had a huge pizza party right when the NFL season ended and we were done with our fantasy leagues.

[Danny Heifetz]

So Cam talked about how, wow, this has aged even better because. But he was talking about. Basically, I'll. I'll summarize the email. But his point is, he said his Venmo to private and he didn't realize that that meant that, like your past Venmos don't become private.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, you can set that.

[Danny Heifetz]

So he realized that he had been like, taking March Madness Venmos from co workers. But all the Venmos that were left on his feed that they were looking at were all of his dumb transactions for college.

[Danny Kelly]

It's Venmo canceled old tweets, like old payments.

[Danny Heifetz]

What kind of psycho has happened to

[Craig Korlbeck]

Jimmy Vance transactions public to be.

[Danny Kelly]

Why is that even an option is my question. Who the fuck needs a social media feed? A Venmo payment?

[Danny Heifetz]

If anyone from Venmo is listening, I'm so angry at you. They try to make payments to social media. How dare you. There is.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You can like people like other people's transactions.

[Danny Heifetz]

I've.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I've thought, what are we doing here?

[Danny Kelly]

It's remarkably stupid.

[Danny Heifetz]

Inflict your old Facebook. So it's just old people. I don't know anymore from high school that we're even the same grade. And I'm seeing who they're.

[Danny Kelly]

They don't know Jacob, he.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He paid so and so Sarah. For a pizza.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think most. 99% of the people that are on your. Your feed or whatever on Venmo don't

[Danny Kelly]

realize that they're on your feed 100%. Also, like you said. Hi. It's. There's like private mode and then there's like extra private mode where you can actually block. It's. I don't know why there are so many layers.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Seems like it should be just one or two. Just one or not. You know, like binary. You can either see them or not. That's what I want.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's. It's just Venmoing some. Oh, my God.

[Danny Kelly]

Is Venmo the. The latest H. No, I guess it's Chat GPT. I was gonna say, is Venmo the latest app to become a verb? Because Venmoing is a verb now. But I guess people do say Chat GPT it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, that's terrible. That won't last. I know.

[Danny Kelly]

They do say it though. But like. Oh, I'll just. Venmo you is just like in the lexicon now, right?

[Danny Heifetz]

Venmo it's Two syllables. It flows. It's perfect. Chat GPT. Four syllables. Horrific order.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'll cash app you. People say that?

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And then snap.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, just Venmo me. I'll venmo you 20 bucks.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No big deal.

[Danny Heifetz]

One letter. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Chat GPT it. People say that.

[Danny Heifetz]

I know, but we gotta. We gotta do better.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's a mouthful.

[Danny Heifetz]

One last email from Jimmy.

[Danny Kelly]

Jimmy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Breakfast was a banana.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Speaking the third.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't touch Jimmy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Jimmy. Speaking of Baltimore.

[Austin Gale]

Sorry.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What was his breakfast?

[Danny Heifetz]

Breakfast. A banana and hazelnut. Uncrustable. Hazelnut Uncrustable.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wow.

[Danny Heifetz]

Amazing.

[Danny Kelly]

That's kind of cool. Did he get the banana in there or he's like.

[Austin Gale]

Was he.

[Danny Kelly]

Back to back? I feel like a banana and uncrustable goes together. Nice.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm not. I'm not real familiar with uncrustables. What are they? What are they like Pop Tarts you talking about?

[Danny Kelly]

That's the thing. They give out in Indianapolis every year.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I've never done that. Never had them.

[Danny Heifetz]

What, you don't know what an order of an incrustable.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I've heard of it. I don't know what they are, though. Though.

[Danny Kelly]

Like. Can you picture it in your. In your head right now?

[Danny Heifetz]

No.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's why I'm asking. What? I said, is it like a Pop Tart? I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it. It's basically a. It's just a PB and J cut into a circle without crust.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I was not like our Twinkie. They. They'll live forever, but they have to be frozen for some reason.

[Danny Kelly]

They're really good frozen.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, wow.

[Danny Kelly]

Even if you don't let it thaw. You know what? I've never done this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think it's having flashbacks to what he ate.

[Danny Kelly]

Is crustable. Hi. Says when you turn 30, you start choking on air. You know what I do that I think is considered blasphemous and people don't like it? Is I never toast my Pop Tarts. I have never toasted an uncrustable. I just. I just eat that straight.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You just raw dog it.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Right out the fridge, right out the box. I like.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I do both with Pop Tarts.

[Danny Heifetz]

Do you heat up cold pizza?

[Danny Kelly]

No.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'll do.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think that I don't heat up Pop Tarts, but heating a piece is worth. Worth it.

[Danny Kelly]

Heating a pizza. To me, the structural integrity of the slice of pizza gets. It gets more limp after you microwave it. It actually holds.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You oven it.

[Danny Kelly]

That's ridiculous. I'm in a hurry. I'm having pizza for breakfast.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Ridiculous. He says that's ridiculous. I can't turn, I can't wait to

[Danny Kelly]

turn it on the oven. The whole point for lunch, the whole point of having pizza for breakfast is that it's quick and easy. I gotta turn on the oven.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, it's not, doesn't have to be breakfast. I have leftover pizza the next night

[Danny Kelly]

for dinner.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, lunch or lunch.

[Danny Kelly]

I think, I think breakfast and lunch.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's cold by the way the oven. It takes like five minutes. It's not like that long.

[Danny Kelly]

It's just a lot of you got, you gotta waste a pan. It's just like a lot.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think that like a pop Tart, it's good, better, but I won't do it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Put some freaking. A Pop Tart is for aluminum foil down or something.

[Danny Heifetz]

I pop that nice pizza place in la, the one where they put the little, the hot honey on the thing. Thing where they invented.

[Danny Kelly]

There's like 15.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Everyone in the world does hot.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well now. Well, they did it first. I don't know they came from. The point is you have a nice pizza there, you eat that cold.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, it's the best.

[Danny Heifetz]

That I think you hear.

[Danny Kelly]

I just ate pizza on a cold two days ago.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, I bet the owners of p. Pizza would probably be horrified at you.

[Danny Kelly]

No, I don't, I don't think so.

[Danny Heifetz]

I get it. I've done it. It's just, it's worth it to heat it up. As I've gotten older Pop tarts, I

[Craig Korlbeck]

microwaving pizza is, is objectively terrible. But putting it in the oven is good.

[Danny Kelly]

I'd rather. I've already had it hot and it was great. I'm not going to recreate that. Now I have it cold. It's a different experience.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Thanks. Old logic. I've already had it hot. Now I require a different form.

[Danny Kelly]

It's not. I'm gonna heat the oven up. I gotta get the foil out. I gotta get the pan. I'm like, it's already good cold and it's quicker.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I've already had, I've already had cold ice cream. I need this one.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't, don't some people toast and uncrustable

[Danny Heifetz]

or, or no, I, I, I like. No, I don't, I don't know. I don't have uncrustables that I feel like they're having a renaissance. I don't know what big uncrustable is doing, but they've never eaten one. Re up. Because all the, all the players have Uncrustables. All the teams. The NBA players.

[Danny Kelly]

Is that right?

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, the NBA players love peanut butter jelly. All these guys do. But now who does that? Teams have uncrustables. They've had a whole renaissance. I don't know how they all.

[Danny Kelly]

PB&J is great. That one of the all time flavor combinations properly rated.

[Danny Heifetz]

It really is. Every time I have one, it hits.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

My son's allergic to peanut, so.

[Danny Kelly]

Ah, well, he probably would still like the taste.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, in fact, he hates it.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I think he's probably.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It gives. It's like makes him. It's revolting to him.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Which is great.

[Danny Kelly]

Almond. I guess he can do almond butter in general.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Sure. That works.

[Danny Kelly]

Not as good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cross contamination.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's good. I do a lot of almond. I do a lot of almond butter.

[Danny Kelly]

Almond butter's fine.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Can I do one more email for you guys? Oh, yeah. Right. Jimmy.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

We're in the middle.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wait, did. Did we ever. Yeah. What is Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Incredible. Yeah. He said Jimmy had a pitch for a sequel to Harry Potter or Coachella game. Wait, Harry Potter?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Read his email verbatim. Jimmy had a pitch for a movie. He's speaking in the third person.

[Danny Heifetz]

Here's my pitch for a sequel to the Harry Potter character at Coachella Band game last year. Pokemon or 2026 Coachella artist.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Ooh. I'm a little bit familiar with Pokemon because Calvin's super into it.

[Danny Heifetz]

I am doing this straight from Zoo. I don't. I don't. I. I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

I know like old school Pokemon, but are there like a thousand new ones?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Probably.

[Danny Kelly]

I know like Charizard and Squirtle, but I don't know any.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're not on here. So we're doing Pokemon. Is it a Pokemon or a band playing Coachella this year? Sweet Iron Jugulus.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That sounds like a poke band.

[Danny Heifetz]

I. I think that's got to be a band.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

Really?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. Jugulus.

[Danny Heifetz]

Espartha.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What?

[Danny Heifetz]

Espartha.

[Danny Kelly]

Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

A R, T, H, A Pokemon.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon. It's a Pokemon. Nice. Prospa

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I'm gonna go with Pokemon.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Sound like Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a band, damn it. Positive. Wait, let me look it up. Coachella Band Band. I don't A roads. A road. A R, O D E, S. I don't know how to say that. A roads.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm gonna go with band.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Same.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's Coachella Bin.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

I feel like it needs to be easy to pronounce if it's a Pokemon, because kids erode.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, what about Guzzlord?

[Danny Kelly]

Guzzlord. Guzzlord. That's a band.

[Danny Heifetz]

Guzzlord.

[Danny Kelly]

Band.

[Danny Heifetz]

It is Pokemon. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Guzzlord.

[Danny Heifetz]

Guzlord.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Guz Lord.

[Danny Heifetz]

Guzzlord.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Some of. Some of the names are kind of sexual.

[Danny Heifetz]

Tapu. Coco. Coco is two K's. Two different words. Tapa, Coco, Tapu.

[Danny Kelly]

I abstain from this one.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Coco.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm going banned. Because of what you said about pronunciation.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, Yeah, I agree.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

Ah, well, I guess you pronounce it kind of easily.

[Danny Heifetz]

Freak. Slug.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I feel like Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

The Guz. The Guzz. What was the Guzz one? Guzzlord was Guzzlord being a Pokemon, I feel like is a. Is leading you to believe this is a Pokemon. So I'm gonna go banned.

[Danny Heifetz]

It is. It is a band.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. Freak. Slug.

[Danny Heifetz]

What about Mochak? M O C H, A K. K.

[Danny Kelly]

That feels like a Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon band. I was. Oh, no, it's a band. Yep, it's a band.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What is it?

[Danny Heifetz]

Mochak. M O C H A K. Our

[Danny Kelly]

hit rate here is pathetic.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's. We. Actually. It's hard to do this bad. Brion. B R I O N N E. Brion. Brioni. Brion.

[Danny Kelly]

Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think that's gonna be an artist. It's a Pokemon.

[Craig Korlbeck]

God.

[Danny Kelly]

Nice.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I overestimated my Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

Clef. Keep. Banned.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Banned.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

God.

[Danny Heifetz]

Skrilp.

[Danny Kelly]

Pokemon. Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon. Gordo.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pokemon Band. Band. Band.

[Danny Kelly]

Band.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a band.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Durant spelled like Kevin.

[Danny Kelly]

Banned.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Banned.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon.

[Danny Kelly]

What?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Durant. The Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Durant's a Pokemon.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wow.

[Danny Heifetz]

Glitterer.

[Danny Kelly]

If that's. Oh, wow. Actually, I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pokemon.

[Danny Heifetz]

Pokemon Coachella Band. We're terrible at this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This is actually a very good game. Well done, Jimmy.

[Danny Kelly]

Well done, Jimmy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Jimmy. Incredible work to rent the Pokemon. I wonder if he's tweeting. Pokemon names are just.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. Freak.

[Danny Heifetz]

30th anniversary. All right. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Austin, for. I'm sorry about the Raiders. I'm sorry, Austin. Thank you for coming on. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Abu. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you for listening. Emails to ringerfantasyfootballgmail.com Join the Ringer Fantasy Football Ringer NFL draft show. The March Madness brackets on espn. Just look up. We'll have it in the episode description. Or just look up Ringer Fantasy Football show. We'll have our 2026 tournament. We will send out merch. Unless we think of a better Prize. Email us if you have an idea for prize. Do we want other emails? What else do we ask for?

[Danny Kelly]

I. We're gonna do the free agency Hangover next week. So I want. I want hangover stories. I want all time. I want hangover stories good enough to be. To be the movie Hangover 4.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes.

[Danny Kelly]

Tell me about your most legendary insane hangover stories. What happened the night before? What happened when you woke up, where you were when you woke up? Having to go back and find somebody. Any hangover related story we will add to the end of our free agency hangover episode next week.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yell those and of course, thank you,

[Craig Korlbeck]

Lord, Lord, thank you.

[Danny Kelly]

Freak slug. Yeah, Freak Slugs.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like doing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's what they called me in high school. Oh,

[Danny Kelly]

her name. Her name is Zenya Genovese.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Is she on the Italian Genovese?

[Danny Kelly]

Zenya Genovese, known by her stage name Freak Slug, is a British indie rock musician from Manchester. Oh, cool.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Her.

[Danny Kelly]

She has one studio album called I Blow Out Big Candles.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's provocative.

[Danny Kelly]

What I. I mean, freaks. Genovese. Genovese.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know what's crazy is the rare person who could have just gone by Zenya for sure could have just gone by Genovese. Well, Genovese is kind of taken.

[Danny Kelly]

We're really in a crazy era of just names. People just be named anything.

[Craig Korlbeck]

People just be. People just be naming.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, you know Chase Infinity, the actress from One Battle After Another?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Is that her real name?

[Danny Heifetz]

Her Chase Infinity?

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Is which character?

[Danny Kelly]

She's Leo's daughter.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, Chase Infinity.

[Danny Kelly]

Correct. Her name is Chase Infinity. Pain. Her last name is Pain, but her middle name is Infinity. Her name is Chase Infinity Pain. She's named after fucking Buzz Lightyear. Oh, like I'm not Infinity and beyond. It's in her Wikipedia. Her parents are just like, yeah, we liked her name. We like Buzz Lightyear. Name's Chase Infinity.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's kind of sick.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I'm into it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh. Born and raised in Indianapolis. Maybe we get her on the next combine.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, there we go.

[Danny Heifetz]

Next year, Chase Infinity. Oh, yeah. Also, Craig, are you gonna be at the Oscars on Sunday?

[Danny Kelly]

You betcha.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right.

[Danny Kelly]

If they'll let me in, I. I think I'll be there.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right. On Monday, Oscars recap from Craig. Are you. What do you. You. How many times have you been.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm fortunate enough. This will be my third time.

[Danny Heifetz]

What are. What's the 101? I go to the Oscars that people wouldn't know. Like, things you wouldn't expect about going to the Oscars.

[Danny Kelly]

There's a red carpet for famous hot people. And then there's this other red carpet in the back for ugly non famous people that I will be on.

[Danny Heifetz]

You should do the interviews. The black carpet. You should just do the. Whatever it.

[Danny Kelly]

Like the carpet is red, but it's like behind all the other stuff and there's not really. And there's like no cameras.

[Danny Heifetz]

The maroon carpet, like really stained.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This carpet has been here since the 70s.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I don't know what else. The food is actually sneaky. Great. There's an after party on the floor above the Oscars called the Governor's Ball and Wolfgang Puck does the whole thing and it's really good food.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's kind of sick.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I was just going to ask you to do a Wolfgang Puck impression, Craig. I don't know if you're real familiar. It might just turn out to be like, kind of sounding like you're making fun of his accent.

[Danny Kelly]

Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Where is he from again?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think Germany.

[Danny Kelly]

Germany. I would just. I don't know. I don't have a.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Let's see.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, Austria.

[Danny Heifetz]

Austria.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't have a good German. Austrian, I guess. Arnold Schwarzenegger. I don't really have a good German accent in my back. Get to the chopper, dude.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Can you do the. Who's the director? Werner Herzog.

[Danny Heifetz]

Herzog.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Do a verder work. He's the craziest I've ever seen of my life. I saw something where he was made. He made this. He made this movie that's based in like the Amazon or something. And he was like, the jungle is angry. It's trying to kill us.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I just love everything about it.

[Danny Kelly]

That was good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Did you see? I. I saw Netflix is the dinosaurs thing and I haven't watched it yet, but I did see Morgan Freeman had some. I don't actually, now that I think about it, know if this was AI

[Craig Korlbeck]

or not, but I know actually now that I know what you're talking about,

[Danny Heifetz]

it was Morgan Freeman outtakes from the dinosaur thing. And now I'm realizing I definitely got got. That was definitely not real. But it was allegedly.

[Danny Kelly]

I do want to watch that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Definitely fake. I. I love. I'll watch anything with dinosaurs.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, Spielberg produced it. I mean, I'm in.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dinosaurs to me are like space. If you.

[Danny Kelly]

We're like you. You know, it's not actually real, but it's fun to watch.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Just, you know, the suspension of disbelief. Yeah, sure.

[Danny Heifetz]

Goodbye, everyone.

[Danny Kelly]

The T. Rexes are so big. Why. Why'd they die?

[Danny Heifetz]

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[Craig Korlbeck]

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[Danny Heifetz]

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[Austin Gale]

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