Power Ranking Fantasy Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and Ronnie Is Only Here for the Zipline

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show – Episode Summary

Episode Title: Power Ranking Fantasy Trade Targets, Fantasy Court, and Ronnie Is Only Here for the Zipline
Release Date: November 19, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Special Guest: Austin Gale
Episode Focus: Power ranking fantasy football trade targets before league deadlines, plus "Fantasy Court" and irreverent tangents

---

Overview

This week’s episode delivers a power hour dedicated to fantasy football trade targets, perfect for managers racing the trade deadline. The hosts—Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck—debate their favorite players to trade for (or trade away) heading into the fantasy football playoffs. There’s spirited debate, deep dives into fantasy logic, "Fantasy Court" for league ethics, and plenty of tangents, including rants about coaching, pet theories, and sitcom-level workplace stories. Austin Gale joins early for a post-mortem on the Raiders' primetime woes to kick things off.

---

Raiders Rant: Austin Gale’s Impassioned Speech

[04:00–13:45]

Main Points:

• Austin Gale opens with a brutally honest breakdown of the Raiders’ primetime 33–16 loss to the Cowboys.
• He blames Pete Carroll as the core of Las Vegas's dysfunction, focusing on broken culture, bad body language, and underwhelming leadership.
• Austin points out the failed promise of Carroll’s supposed “high-culture” leadership and the disaster of Geno Smith’s performance.
• The offensive line is in shambles due to injuries and reshuffling, and playmakers like Ashton Genti and Bowers can't get going.
• “This is the last time you’re going to see the Las Vegas Raiders in primetime. It might be the last time you see Pete Carroll coaching in the NFL in primetime, because it’s just been that bad this year.” – Austin Gale [04:12]

Notable Quotes:

• “Pete’s supposed to come in and be this high-competitive, high-culture guy...but he’s come in and done the opposite.” – Austin Gale [04:50]
• “They’re yelling at each other on every single play. P has come in and done the opposite of what you expected.” – Austin Gale [05:35]
• “If my math is right, I believe the combined age of Geno Smith, Chip Kelly, and Pete Carroll: 170 years old. Which—not that there’s anything wrong with that, but maybe that’s not the best group...” – Danny Heifetz [17:10]

Highlights:

• Detailed anatomy of a failed franchise turnaround: failed draft picks, injury crises, untalented roster, and a coaching staff lacking answers.
• Observations on Geno Smith’s regression, Raiders’ locker room chaos, and “offseason winners are always the biggest losers” wisdom.
• Heifetz, Kelly, and Horlbeck chime in: is Pete Carroll simply not cut out for "scrub" rosters? Does hiring one’s adult children indicate red flags in coaching?

---

Power Hour: Fantasy Football Trade Targets

[19:00–47:00]

The hosts deliver rapid-fire takes on their top fantasy football trade targets for the stretch run. Organized in a “Power Hour” style, each player or topic gets about two minutes.

1. Amon-Ra St. Brown (DET, WR)

• Trade Target, Not Buy-Low – The Jenga piece analogy: he’s foundational, so hard to acquire, but always worth inquiring.
• “He is so impenetrable. He is so rock solid....He is like the trunk of the tree.” – Craig Horlbeck [23:28]
• Value lies in persistent, high-floor production, and opportunity for a big finish with Lions’ indoor schedule.

2. Lamar Jackson, Zay Flowers, Derrick Henry (BAL)

• Lamar is more acquirable after a poor showing; “He just had the worst fantasy performance of his entire career.” – Danny Heifetz [25:00]
• Zay Flowers is the “epitome of a Glansberg”—should be highly available, quietly productive, and set to benefit from a friendly schedule.
• “He hasn’t scored a touchdown since Week One…He just doesn’t get in the end zone.” – Craig Horlbeck [26:03]

3. Chris Olave (NO, WR)

• DK: Perfect trade target for 8th-place teams; high target share, excellent playoff schedule, and improved opportunity with Rashid Shaheed injured.
• “Chris Olave has the 6th highest target rate in the NFL...just getting so much volume.” – Danny Kelly [28:20]

4. Quinshon Judkins (CLE, RB)

• Craig: Classic buy-low; production down, but great usage and soft upcoming schedule.
• “If you actually watch the game and you watch him, I still think he’s really good.” – Craig Horlbeck [30:12]
• Discussed in comparison to other rookies and Browns’ run-game context.

5. Ricky Pearsall (SF, WR)

• Pearsall has been out with a knee injury and put up a dud in his return—ripe for acquisition.
• “People, when you wait for someone for long…and then they come back and they have one catch for three yards, I think...that’s the time to pounce.” – Danny Heifetz [36:14]
• 49ers’ schedule and Purdy’s resurgence boost appeal.

6. Brock Purdy (SF, QB)

• DK: He’s back, healthy, and has an extremely soft schedule.
• Great option for managers platooning QBs or streaming the position.

7. Woody Marks (HOU, RB)

• DK: Pure opportunity play as a deep-league flex or RB2; has taken over the Texans’ backfield.
• “He’s absolutely dominating this backfield now…perfect time to go get him.” – Danny Kelly [40:39]

8. DK Metcalf (PIT, WR)

• “Buy-low” on a talented but recently unproductive receiver with easy matchups ahead.
• “DK Metcalf has not had eight fantasy points for the last five weeks and now...you’re gonna see Mason Rudolph might play and you’re like yeah, I should get rid of this guy.” – Danny Heifetz [45:04]

Other Noteworthy Mentions:

• RJ Harvey (DEN, RB) & Courtland Sutton – on BYE, so cheaper for playoff-bound teams.
• Broncos, Jameson Williams, Rashid Shaheed, A.J. Brown – discussed as potential targets or re-examined from previous weeks.

---

Trade Etiquette & Podcaster Banter

[19:00–21:22]

• “Don’t crazy lowball people…it’s just actively insulting. And just know what you want and work with people who need the opposite stuff.” – Danny Heifetz
• Craig’s (sarcastic) advice: “Offer them the four worst players on your roster for their best player.” [20:03]

---

Fantasy Court: League Ethics and Family Trades

[57:15–62:00]

• Listener Jack J. Bo’s question: Should he intervene in a wildly lopsided trade between his in-laws in a family, non-cash league?
• Consensus: No action; “Fantasy counseling” over fantasy prosecution.
• “I gotta warn people that this doesn’t fly. But then probably don’t reverse it. They can’t... especially the holidays.” – Danny Kelly [61:31]

---

Tangents & Notable Banter

Old Coaches, Nepo Babies, and Fantasy Cat Theory
[17:00–18:13, 41:08–43:51]

• Hosts riff on “how old is too old” for a QB-coach-OC trio, and the pitfalls of coaches hiring their sons.
• IKEA effect: people overvalue the fantasy players they pick up themselves, just like furniture they built.
• “If you pay for a pet, we pay for a dog. You rescued him from the alley. Now he’s priceless.” – Danny Heifetz [41:34]

Workplace Lunacy and Generational Lingo
[63:17–65:44]

• Listener tales: the dangers of older generations misusing terms like “hook up” and “eaten out” in the workplace.
• Hard laughter as the hosts read aloud a story of a boss repeatedly using “eaten out” in front of employees, thinking it meant “chewed out."

Chipotle Order Theory & Irish Food
[67:32–69:56]

• Hosts swap orders and “hacks” for maximizing your Chipotle bowl, true to their fantasy optimization ethos.

---

"Ronnie Is Only Here for the Zipline": Tim Robinson & Sketch Comedy

[76:03–81:16]

• Extended riff about Tim Robinson’s sketch in “I Think You Should Leave” – “The Bachelorette/Zipline” as a comic highlight.
• Broader nostalgia discussion: the difference in how comedy lands alone vs. with friends; generational differences in movie quoting and slapstick sensibilities.

---

Ringer Fantasy League Update

[55:01–56:24]

• Craig’s team is hanging on by a thread with WR byes and injuries.
• Bill Simmons, previously in last, now surging; DK and Heifetz leading.
• Live trade talks cut short for the sake of the audience: “No one cares about your leagues!” – Danny Heifetz [56:41]

---

Memorable Quotes

• “The offseason winners are always the biggest losers.” – Austin Gale [12:56]
• “Stop banking the old way. Bank smarter through Chime.” – Ad read; hosts mock-adapting slogans for fantasy advice.
• “You always want what you can’t get even more, Craig.” – Danny Kelly [24:52]
• “They can’t charge a husband and a wife for the same crime.” – Danny Heifetz [61:39]

---

Key Timestamps for Segments

• Raiders Rant / Coaching Disasters: [04:00–13:45]
• Power Hour: Trade Targets: [19:00–47:00]
• Broncos/Buy-Low Discussion: [46:21–47:13]
• Ringer League Update: [55:01–56:24]
• Fantasy Court: [57:15–62:00]
• Generational Language Mixups: [62:37–66:26]
• Chipotle/Ordering Tangent: [67:32–69:56]
• Tim Robinson/Comedy Tangent: [76:03–81:16]

---

Tone and Style

The hosts blend sharp analysis, self-deprecating humor, and a conversational rapport familiar to long-time listeners. They oscillate easily between serious fantasy advice, football X's and O's, and impromptu detours into pop culture and daily life, all delivered with quick wit and camaraderie.

---

Top Takeaways for Fantasy Managers

• Now is the time to trade for distressed assets with high upside—especially proven studs with a recent cold streak, or players benefiting from key injuries or soft schedules.
• Don’t be afraid to ask about even “untouchable” players if you can meet real needs for a rival.
• Context (injuries, schedules, roles) is everything; don’t trust a single bad week or coach narrative alone.
• Fantasy leagues (especially with family) are as much about fun and relationships as winning; pick your battles.

---

Final Thoughts

This episode is essential for any fantasy manager seeking a competitive edge before trade deadlines. It’s packed with actionable names, logic behind advanced trading tactics, and the always-entertaining conjecture into NFL chaos, pet personalities, and generational miscommunication.

---

Transcript

[A]

This episode is brought to you by Ford Blue Cruise. It's not just where you're going, it's how you get there. And Ford Blue Cruise hands free highway driving technology helps make the journey more enjoyable. We took it for a test drive so we could experience the convenience for ourselves. So I tested the Ford Blue Cruise hands free highway driving technology last month and it was amazing. I was blown away. Like we're just on the highway and you can just hit a blinker and it just changes lanes and you can set how many car lengths ahead you want the truck to be in front of or behind the car, like how far you want it from the nearest car. It was amazing. I was, I didn't realize we were there. I felt like I was living the future. So it was, it was absolutely mind blowing. With Ford BlueCruise, you arrive at your destination ready to take on whatever comes your way. But don't just take our word for it. Experience the convenience for yourself. Ford Blue Cruise hands free highway driving for a hands on life available feature on Blue Cruise equipped vehicles. BlueCruise requires a connected services plan and modem activation. BlueCruise driver assist features can be activated in hands free blue zones and do not replace safe driving and drivers need to control the vehicle. See Ford.com BlueCruise for more details on available plans and hands free models. This episode is brought to you by United Airlines. Flying just got easier with the United Airlines app. Get real time flight updates like a live countdown clock to boarding even if your screen's locked as well as play by play directions through the airport with a personalized map. And if you want to make a game time decision and go home early or stay longer, there are no fees to change your flight. Get the united [e-mail] app no fees to change your flight excludes basic economy applies to flights originating in the U.S. fair difference may apply. Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hut. And I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korbeck. And today it is power hour where every Wednesday we power something and we're doing one final list of trade targets. And Craig yells at me for buy lows. But trade targets and buy lows for fantasy football before the trade deadlines. Check your deadlines at Yahoo. Whatever platform you play on and check those out. And we're also going to go through fantasy court emails and then before that.

[B]

And we're going to start with an impassioned speech by the ringer's very own Austin Gale, who has thoughts on the Monday Night Football game, the Raiders losing to the Cowboys 33 to 16. So after this break, we're going to come back with our friend Austin Gale.

[A]

This episode is presented by Chime Bank Smarter. This season, fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money trade. Banking fees for fee free banking, 1.5% cash back, getting paid when you say and a higher APY on your savings. That's the lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank Smarter through Chime. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and the secured Chime Visa credit card provided by the Bancor Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members FDIC optional services and products may have fees or charges [e-mail] feesinfo with a qualifying direct deposit. Earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured Chime Visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn more at Chime. Okay, we're coming in here, D.K. craig and I. We're joined by Austin Gale here at the Ringer. And Austin, I just asked you what did you think of the Raiders game right before we started recording? And your answer was so impassioned that we just kind of paused you and we're like, we're just going to start recording and reass this question. So, Austin, what'd you think of the Raiders game?

[C]

Austin Honestly, it could have been more embarrassing. Last night I was supposed to blog off the game. Just use Lindsay Jones, our editor's words, if it's really embarrassing and somehow it wasn't embarrassing enough for a blog. But I still feel pretty embarrassed. It was the last time you're going to see these Las Vegas Raiders in primetime. It might be the last time you see Pete Carroll coaching in the NFL in primetime, because it's just been that bad this year. And if I had to rank because everyone's on Chip Kelly's ass, everyone's on Geno Smith and him kind of bottoming out this year if I had to rank the most. The biggest problem with this Raiders team, it starts and ends with Pete. And I think the reason is, and dk correct me if I'm wrong, Pete's supposed to come in and be this high competitive, high culture guy. He's going to immediately establish, even though he's not going to be coaching long because he's obviously the oldest coach in the NFL, we all feel that he's going to establish a new culture, a winning culture, a competitive culture in Las Vegas High. Fitz, you've been on this all season. Geno Smith throws his helmet on the sideline at least once a game. At least once a game. The body language when the safety happened, he's like throwing his arms in the air like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it. Genti 2 weeks ago holding penalty calls back a big run. He's like, oh my God, this sucks. Craig, you've been on Genti's body language all season. He does not want to be in Las Vegas. Tyler Lockett, who's been on the team for two weeks, is screaming at receivers after they make mistakes. The offensive lines in shambles. The entire team offensively, defensively, culturally. I feel like the body language is so bad. They're yelling at each other on every single play. P has come in and done the opposite of what you expected. They're getting blown out in in games that they should be competitive in. The Cowboys last night were three and a half point favorites. Like, they are not showing up for these games. And I hate the halftime interviews with Pete Carroll when they ask him what's going on. Honestly, the amount of times he says, I have no idea. He's literally like, I'm surprised by what's happening right now.

[B]

Like, I'm not.

[C]

The entire Raiders franchise isn't. We've seen this for 20 years.

[A]

I'm so glad you brought this up. I think Pete Carroll sideline, he's been buried by Mike McDaniel. But this halftime interviews, especially last night, was so bad. But he was like, I'm really surprised by the defense playing support. And I'm like, you're the only one in the world who thought that this would not The Cowboys won 3316 even though they benched CD Lamb and George Pickens for the first drive. You also I'm surprised though, that you think Austin the Chip Kelly is not to blame.

[B]

Here's the thing.

[C]

Colt Miller best offensive lineman their left tackle for a long time has not been playing for a while now. They they've had to put Stone Forsythe at left tackle. They got DJ Demar Glaze at right tackle and on the interior, Jackson Powers Johnson got put on the IR Last week they had to reshuffle the deck. They got Dylan Parham, who might be one of the worst guards in the NFL. They put Will Putnam at center and then moved Meredith to guard. Like the offensive line is unstartable, unplayable. Genti, who's been who I think is good, I think he can be Maurice Jones Drew in the NFL.

[B]

I honestly feel that way.

[C]

I think he's good when he touched the ball, I think he's going to get better. He's just going to be wearing a different jersey in like two or three years. Just like Josh Jacobs, because that's what happens. But Genti's good. Bowers has been either playing her or out. Mayor has also missed time. The receiver. They just traded away their best receiver. They've turned Trey Tucker into a slot type to have to be the primary. The two guys they drafted, remember the Deontay Thornton buzz? Dude literally can't see the field. Jack Besh, second round pick, great story. Cannot see the field. They had to bring in Tyler Lockett. Do you guys remember when they signed Amari Cooper? And then after like three practices, he's like, honestly, I'm going to retire from the NFL. I can handle this.

[D]

He didn't want to compete.

[C]

The offensive supporting, like the supporting cast and then doesn't even bring up. Which is not to Kelly's fault. My opinion, Geno Smith. Geno Smith's been a turnover machine. He's not seeing the field well. He's not. He's not checking the ball down enough. He's taking horrible sacks. Beyond a bad offensive line. Chip Kelly is going to go back to college and feel completely fine about it because the Raiders, like all these other players that go to Las Vegas or Oakland before that, at the end of your career or you're trying to make something happen, it just doesn't really work out. It's hard to restart your life in Las Vegas. It's just not really easy to do.

[B]

Yeah, you can only spend a weekend in Las Vegas. And I think that right now, four.

[C]

Days is like, yeah, Mari Cooper had a weekend. It was like three or four days.

[B]

It feels like to me, like, doesn't it feel like there are certain coaches who are better when their team is good? And I know that doesn't make any sense like on the surface, but like Pete Carroll, if the defense is already good and there's a lot of talent, is an even better coach than the average coach. Like the replacement level coach. If the defense is already talented, Pete Carroll is that much better. But Pete Carroll, as a coach with an untalented roster, I feel like the culture guys sometimes when the roster isn't talented, like doesn't work. It's like Phil Jackson is really good with superstars. He knows how to mold them and work with them. I think Steve Kerr is the same way. But Pete Carroll, when he's just with this scrub Raiders team starting from scratch with Geno Smith, who's Like an ex that they broke up and now they're back together. That never works. I just think it's really hard sometimes for coaches. There are certain coaches that make more sense with talent and make more sense with scheme.

[C]

It's another small thing. But, like, remember when they cut Jermaine Pratt randomly, arguably the best linebacker on the team? They just, like, cut him like, three weeks ago, and he signed with the Colts immediately in, like, two days. Apparently that was because there was criticism and tied the locker room of the coaching staff. Who, who could have thought, like, there's criticism because they don't know what they're doing. The coaching staff has been unprepared for games that you kind of expected Antonio Pierce or other coaches to kind of be unprepared in. But, like, the special teams is one of the worst in the league. They're giving up big returns all the time. Body language is terrible. They can't get out of a rut. It just feels like the opposite of what I expected going into the season. I think a lot of people, too. This was everyone's sneaky playoff team going into the season, which I hated, by the way, but they haven't been that. And I think in large part, Gino has sucked. Another part, injuries, offensive line.

[B]

How dare you. I mentioned that one time.

[C]

And then, and then I think this last piece, I think the biggest reason, again, I, I, I really do think it's what Pete was supposed to bring. Maturity, competitiveness, culture has just not shown up in any way.

[A]

Tk, what do you make of this?

[D]

Yeah, I was gonna say the TK's.

[B]

Like, I like what they're doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

After all that said, they're going in the right. Right?

[A]

But D is a Seahawks fan, and Pete Gel, I feel like, is the closest person in life that he doesn't actually know.

[B]

It's hard to start over at 74.

[D]

Well, my reaction to this whole thing is that everything has been bad. It's like you're blaming. You guys just went through and blamed literally everyone. And I'm, I'm like, yeah, pretty pretty much everybody has been bad. I'm looking at the differences between what Pete has done in year one with the Raiders rebuild and year one with the Seahawks rebuild. And there's a lot of differences. Number one, the first draft for the Seahawks was really good. They got Earl Thomas and Russell Okung and a number of other guys that ended up being really big time contributors. I think that kind of helped energize the, like, foundation or the core of the team and everything and then they can start building around that. Doesn't really feel like they. The Raiders have a core, at least not what Pete Carroll has brought in so far, other than like Bowers and Max Crosby and a handful of other guys. Like, Genti's been a disappointment, whatever. Even though I do think he will be good eventually.

[B]

He had seven yards rushing against the Cowboys yesterday.

[D]

I know. And if you like. But like, hold on. So the draft, the draft class for the Raiders has done nothing right. Like, there's been no contribution.

[C]

They can barely see the field.

[D]

Like you're not even getting on the field. That's indicative of poor scouting. Poor, like communication between Pete Carroll and the gym potentially or whatever. Like they're not getting guys that are able to like fit into the system or whatever. So it's a top down thing. And the other thing that I remember from like the Seahawks early on is like they made all kinds of roster change. Like they set the NFL record for most like roster changes during a whole season to try and find the right guys. And it doesn't really feel like they're doing much of that.

[B]

Usually in fantasy, the guys made the most waiver moves is not making the playoffs, I think.

[D]

And then like the Gino thing, I mean, Matt Hasselbeck was the Seahawks quarterback the first year that Pete was in and he kind of provided that like, level of adulthood that Gino has not done whatsoever. And so I think literally, like, when you're, when you were just kind of going off on every. I'm like, yeah, it's literally everything. No, no, I'm saying, like you're. What you're illustrating is what I think I'm seeing. And what's happening is like literally on every level, it's been a failure.

[A]

I, I think a smidgen of credit should go to Dallas because I mean, honestly, the Quinn Williams, Kenny Clark thing looked better on Monday night than anyone against Will Put. But yeah, overall though, Austin, I'm just sorry that this is your team and that this is your life.

[C]

Hey, shout out Carlos Chiriboga. You know, only team in the NFL with an act. A longer active playoff win.

[D]

Like without.

[C]

Without. Longest streak without a playoff win is the Dolphins. Second behind that team is the. The Raiders, the Oakland and Las Vegas Raiders. You know, it's a sea of disappointment. I think this year felt a little different because I think everyone in the off season was like, big, biggest coaching upgrade of any team in the league, going from Antonio Pierce to Pete Carroll. Biggest quarterback upgrade of any team in the league going from Minshew AOC to Geno Smith, both of those things have been disasters. Now people expect to this next year.

[A]

That whoever wins the off season and just like hammer their own.

[C]

Yes, yes. The off season winners are always the biggest losers. I actually do believe that. Especially when like you're betting on the oldest coach in the NFL, which we've seen what's happened with that at the college level. The oldest college coach in college with Bill Belichick. And then also when you're thinking there's going to be this big quarterback Upgrade. Geno Smith, 34, 35 years old. And, and kind of was his best year in Seattle, was his first year in Seattle. And I think you've kind of seen him fall off slowly and then this year going to Vegas. A ton of newness, a ton of new stuff. Worst team him could just completely bottoming out.

[B]

Well, look at it this way, Austin. You know, if you're a fan of the Oakland sports world, you're going to get a really competent baseball team in the A's in Vegas soon and you'll be able to root for them. And I'm sure that'll go well too.

[A]

There you go, Austin. Thank you for sharing your pain for content. Okay, we're going to get to power hour here in a second you guys. Any other thoughts on Monday football before we move on?

[B]

That was great. Thank you, Austin. I will say I do think sometimes the Monday Night Football, the players in that game get kind of protected from the Sunday night categories that we do. And I do think that Ashton Genty as a burn book candidate, particularly for a first round pick in fantasy, should be on the table. Like he has had the most up and down season for a guy that you were like guaranteed 1300 yards, 10 touchdowns. At the worst, he's averaging 50 rushing yards a game. He had, he had seven yards rushing on Monday, six points. He started the season horribly. He basically had that one big week where everybody got excited and since then he has basically been like Jalen Warren. I, I think he should be in the Burn book. I think we need an addendum, the Monday night Burn Book edition.

[A]

We can, we can slot him in for next week. Dk, I'm curious who you think. I think we've joked about this in the past, but that would we be better at projecting the next season if we just didn't actually take anything to account from the previous season. And I think Ashton Genty in real life and in fantasy, all the red flags we just ignored because Saquon Barkley went to the Eagles and then had like one of the best, maybe the best season ever for a running back behind a great offensive line. And so it's o facto no, but the whole running backs coming back, Derek Henry getting paid by the Ravens, Saquon, have a good year. We kind of just paused all the running back criticism of like, spent. And so when Genti came by and Jenny was so cool at Boise State, we kind of just agreed that like, you shouldn't do this, but like, he's awesome. And in reality, the Raiders definitely should have took a tackle because they went ahead and they just took a running back before they had invested in the offensive line, when in reality it makes way more sense to do what the Lions did. And you build your line for five years. The Eagles built their offensive line over 10 years. Then you had the running back when you're ready. And the Raiders came in for a rebuild with the oldest head coach. And then they went ahead and added Gente and then fantasy. It's the same thing. We kind of just ignored the Raiders being horrible and rushing.

[D]

I know, but so I think with Pete Carroll, the idea was like, recreate the Marshawn lynch dynamic where you like build an identity around toughness in the run game and everything. But their offensive line is just so bad that it is a non starter. Almost like if you look at the top 10, top 15 draft picks at running back over the last like 20 years or whatever, it's like almost every single one of them, if they stayed healthy, was a big time fantasy contributor. It was like there's like two outliers out of that whole group. And Genti's issue is they're not throwing to him enough and they cannot. Like, he's literally 97th among running backs in yards before contact. He's just getting hit in the backfield every time.

[B]

Their games are so uncompetitive sometimes that he doesn't even get like the. The requisite touches.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

To contribute. Like, I mean, he has games this year of 6 carries, 6 carries, 11 carries, 13 carries. Like he just doesn't get the ball enough.

[D]

Yeah, the volume hasn't been what you would have expected.

[B]

We expected this to be like, floor Leonard Fournette where it's like, whatever, he'll even touch about 300 times. He'll muscle his way to 1200 yards, he'll catch the ball, he'll punch himself into the end zone a few times and that like the volume isn't there half the time either, which is what's I Think more frustrating to me because he looks good sometimes when he's trying and looks energized. He looks special to me.

[A]

Still, we need to have a rule next year of like, how old is the combined age of the quarterback, the head coach, and the offensive coordinator? Because if my math is right, I believe the combined age of Geno Smith, Chip Kelly, and Pete Carroll.

[B]

160.

[A]

170 years old. 175 years old, which. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but maybe that's not the best group to scheme around an old. A bad offensive line when you're a combined 170.

[B]

Yeah. Sometimes age Carroll's age is correct. Is appropriate.

[D]

You know, I feel like we all. We're all talking about Pete Carroll's age. It's like, just go watch their offensive line. It's atrocious.

[A]

The line is bad, but it's hard.

[D]

How do you. How do you.

[A]

To take a running back instead of. He should have taken an offensive lineman. We probably should have took Menboo.

[B]

So now we're tossing in By Tech.

[A]

Yeah. Spy. Spy. Well, maybe he's a sleeper cell. I don't know. Name Spy Tech. Oh, yeah. Austin also knows the offensive line coach for the Raiders is Pete Carroll's son.

[D]

Yeah. So it's not a great look who could.

[B]

That's another.

[A]

Looking for the guy who did this.

[B]

That's another symptom of being quite old is you start hiring your son because he's fucking 40.

[D]

Your large adult you got to write.

[A]

Down for next year. Is the head coach's son in any prominent positions on the coaching staff that.

[B]

Matter the only time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Right. Because I guess Belichick's son didn't really matter. Right?

[A]

Well, I mean, they were all over the defense.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Latter years.

[B]

But Belichick was running the defense. Right. Like it didn't really matter that his son was also there.

[A]

But that was the problem because he had to shadow run it because.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah. But I mean, I'm just saying the Patriots were very good even when Belichick's son was there. Right.

[A]

I don't know if he wanted to spend time with his kids or he just ran out of people who he could talk to that point in life. You know what I mean? That's what that is.

[B]

That is a good move. That's the Adam Sandler move. He's like, I'm just gonna put the kids in the movie so I can hang out with them.

[A]

That's. That's. Maybe they're.

[B]

It's a Good dad.

[D]

Move.

[B]

I, you know, take your daughter to work day every day. Jerry Jones.

[A]

Jerry.

[B]

Actually, I actually get it. Like I fully get it.

[A]

Jerry is Adam Sandler. They're just cows, Cowboys fans who walk in and they're like, can you believe we own this place? That's crazy. Okay, so let's get to power hour again. We're going to do one last trade target episode because it's the trade deadline for Yahoo this week. Again, the trade deadline for Most Leagues is November 22nd on Yahoo. ESPN. I think it's the 26th of November. But just check your league. Go to the settings button. Check. Because sometimes commissioners change it. They don't tell anyone. They forget. So just check what time the trade deadline is. Let people know. Because deadlines get stuff done. And yeah, this is the last chance to really fix your teams or prepare for a player front. Get in the playoffs, whatever. Uh, we talked through a bunch of advice on just general trading. We don't have to go through everything. But I do think the things that hold true. Click the blurbs of anyone you're trying to trade for because if they're really positive, it's hard. And if they're really negative, it's easy to get the player. Uh, don't crazy low ball people. Cause it's just actively insulting. And just know what you want and work with people who need the opposite stuff.

[B]

Offer them. My advice is to offer them the four worst players on your roster for their best player.

[A]

That's good. I like that.

[B]

Because then if you add up all of their points, right, it might equal the points of the person you're trying to acquire.

[D]

Right. Then you can like put it in a trade calculator and it gets close.

[A]

And then just like propose it and then just send them a tease.

[D]

Four pieces of shit that like Kate.

[B]

Otten, Troy Franklin, Darnell Mooney, Will Lutz. Will Lutz for Jonathan Taylor. You never know. It looks like you never.

[D]

Depth. It looks like you need the depth in your roster.

[A]

They do need depth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. So with that said, we're gonna go through trade targets. Not all these guys are necessarily buy lows. Some of them are just. We just people. You think you should trade it. Sometimes people don't want to trade them, but sometimes people need stuff.

[B]

So I, I have some quibbles with a lot of your guys' how I got. I'm trying to figure out how obnoxious I should be with saying that there's no way they'd ever trade that person. Well, okay, all right.

[A]

It Depends. We can go through some of these.

[D]

Yeah, but that's. To me, that's just. That's a. It's a moot point. Like, how do you know. How do you fucking know what people are going to do?

[B]

Because I do. It's my job all the time. No, I have my. I have my finger on the pulse of the nation.

[A]

You know, should we just. Should we just start with the guy? I know you're going to be mad at. Should you start with the guy?

[B]

Yeah. Well, we're going to do Power Hour style. Tom. Tom. Every two minutes you're going to hear this sound. Hyper. Do you start.

[A]

I kind of want to change the whole order right now. Can I guess who you're mad at that I listed here a Monra. Yeah, Monroe.

[B]

Give me a break.

[A]

Okay? Here's why. Here's why. It's not a buy. It's a trade. Here's why.

[B]

All right. Okay. Sorry. This is the buy low power ranking and the number one is trade targets.

[A]

It depends what we call it. It's fine. So fine. Two minutes on the clock. I agree. Amon Ra is. Look, where did I put them on the original list? I put them eighth for that same reason. You know why? Amon Ra is the Jenga piece at the bottom and you tap it and.

[B]

For the most part, I don't know what that means.

[D]

It.

[A]

The. The pieces on the bottom of the Jenga tower you tap, they're usually rock solid. They're not going to move. Takes 2 seconds to tap the block. Takes 2 seconds to text the person the Monroe and be like, would you be open to moving him? Probably not. Takes three seconds. The. The reason.

[D]

Yeah, you probably needed to re. Explain that the first try, but that.

[A]

He literally said, I don't get what you're saying.

[B]

No, no, I. I know what the Jenga piece at the bottom is, but I didn't understand the. The comparison to a Monroe immediately. I feel like that was clear.

[A]

Oh, sorry. That's a good point.

[D]

That he explained it.

[B]

Yes, that's why I asked.

[A]

What I'm saying.

[B]

That was a clear connection there.

[A]

It takes three seconds to text someone that. The little. The little dicky. Are you open to trading? Are you open to receiving offers for Amon Ra? And if they're no, cool. But if they are so Amonra. Basically, maybe they watched that game against the Eagles and saw, wow, the Lions kind of fucking sucked. And they were awful. Jameson Williams has totally been the focal point of the offense last few weeks and it was really a huge Ick. To see Amonra getting two of 12 targets and diving and he couldn't do anything. The reason I think it's worth trading for and paying at value. I think a Monroe might be like the number one receiver the rest of the season. Like literally maybe first because the Lions are indoor the rest of the season he had all these drops the. The re. Like he literally is the psychopath. He caught 203, 202 passes every day because some other kid that was better him in middle school caught 200 a day. And so the whole thing was if he dropped one, they had to like start over. He's not a drops guy. But if people saw him or maybe they just have a lot of injuries at running back or they just need. Or maybe they have a ton of receivers or something and you could give them a running back. I'm saying I think Amon Ra is worth inquiring because maybe the roster just. I'm saying I was going to put him last. I agree. They probably don't want to give him a Monroe. I was going to say just check. Just check. Because he's an elite player that hasn't been elite and was and looked bad in primetime.

[B]

Very fair, I guess. Amanra is currently the wide receiver six on the season. And to me a Monroe St. Brown, much like a Jenga piece at the bottom, is like the bedrock of your fantasy team. Like the reason why you draft a Monroe St. Brown is because he is so impenetrable. He is so rock solid. Like every season he does the same thing. He's the most dependable player on your team. He is like the basis. He's the trunk of the tree. So I'm like, there's no way he's like the most beloved player in fantasy every year on your team.

[D]

What if the person sixth place has him and they need a running back and a tight end or something?

[A]

Again, I'm not. I agree with what you're saying, Craig. I understand most people are not going to be able to get him. I'm saying to pull. This is not like a representative example for the people. There's another ringer league here we have with like other members of the staff and like I am in that league and I somehow have ended up with Brock Bowers and George Kittle and I'm like, I'm probably going to just see if some like, would that person take a Monroe for George Brock Bowers? I. I will do that trade. Like that's. You know what I mean? I might.

[D]

This is your this is your assignment this week, guys. Everyone listening. Go out, go out. Get out there and trade for Almond Ross. St. Brown, send us the receipts.

[B]

No, look, I, I, I think it's a great point about like the lines being indoors. We recommended David Montgomery as a bilo last week. I think all that stuff is true. I just, yeah, it's, yeah, it's gonna be hard. You're just gonna have to really give up a lot.

[A]

Yeah. So anyway, but you're right. You probably can't get them, so I was gonna put them last originally. Anyway.

[B]

Sorry. You guys can quibble with all mine. Sorry about that.

[D]

No, you want, you want what you can't get even more, Craig.

[B]

You know, that's true.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Look, I'll give anyone to get Amon Ra right now.

[A]

Similar players that are hard to get, but I think are doable. Number one, reset the clock. Ironic. Yeah. Two minutes on the clock. I have the Baltimore Ravens. So Lamar Jackson, Kind of the same thing. Craig, it's these. Are you going to be able to get Lamar? Probably not, but he just had the worst fantasy performance of his entire career, as you mentioned. He's, like, looked a little hobbled. He's more acquirable now than he probably has been because the Ravens. He's been hurt. He's not looked good. I kind of lean toward, I think Lamar will be fine. And he just played the Browns and.

[B]

You'Re trying to acquire him from me in the ringer league.

[A]

I am. I kind of wanted to see if at the end of this we would just negotiate the trade live.

[B]

I'm down. I'm down. Talk about it.

[A]

Okay, we can talk about that.

[D]

Damn it.

[A]

But I think to your point, Derrick Henry is another guy that we've been talking about as a buy, as a acquisition target. But again, I think it's, it all comes down to me, the Raven schedule, where it's been. The Browns are a really tough defense, but now it's Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals. That's an incredible, that's an incredible stretch now. Amonra, Lamar, Terra, Kenny, you'll be able to get these guys. Maybe not the reason I had this first. Zay Flowers, the epitome of a Glanzberg. I don't think we've talked about Zay Flowers once this season.

[B]

Well, I think he hasn't scored a touchdown since week one. Right.

[A]

Dk, what's your favorite Zay Flowers play this year? He's been fine, though. He's actually looked good, but he's like.

[D]

One of Those players that every time he touches the ball I'm like oh yeah, he's good.

[B]

He doesn't score touchdowns. It's the only problem. He just doesn't get in the end zone.

[A]

Zay Flowers has not had 12 points since week one. Zay Flowers has not had 80 yards since week one. I don't think. I think Zay Flowers again. Are you going to be able to get them on Rob? Probably not. Zay Flowers, absolutely. I'd be shocked if Zay Flowers was untouchable for whoever has them.

[B]

No. 100% totally gettable.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Jets, Bengals, Steelers, Bengals. There's gonna be a lot of Ravens points in those games. I agree Zay Flowers is not necessarily a red zone guy for them, but I just think Zay Flowers is a good example of a receiver that like is super acquirable looks feels kind of the same as all the other ones but could actually be a difference maker for you down the stretch if you need to go get a receiver.

[D]

If you don't have a wide receiver too. He's a good target.

[B]

I agree, I agree.

[A]

This is a good, he's a good flex. He's an acquirable, normal, run of the mill flex and I think just has a good chance to be pretty like a weirdly top 15 guy.

[B]

He's been really good like, like Lamar finding him over the middle of the. A lot of broken plays. He always pops up for like a 25 yard catch. I, I agree. Running Z really good.

[D]

There's a lot of run after the catch stuff. Yeah, it's explosive. Just never scores touchdowns.

[B]

Well, it's hard. It's like Henry Lamar and Mark Andrews and even like Likely and Rashad Bateman are like all people you would look at before. Zay flowers inside the 10.

[A]

Number two which well it's third here but my original ranking there number two trade targets DK. You had Chris Olave, the receiver for.

[D]

The Saints, Crystal Lave feels like a quarter or a receiver that is probably on a lot of 8th place teams this year. So in that respect I think he's gettable if you want if you're in a keeper league, send over somebody that might be a good keeper for next year whatever the case may be. Chris olave has the sixth highest target rate in the NFL this year, 29%. Now clearly he's on a bad offense with bad quarterbacks and so that has been holding down his overall ceiling. But with Shahid gone, Rashid Shahid is now gone. Olave is the clear cut number one like Shahid Had a pretty good target rate for most of the season. So Olave is going to see his target rate probably even increase as the season goes on. Tyler Schuck actually was pretty good, so maybe there's some chance that he could build on that, have a little confidence going into the last part of the season. And importantly, according to pff, New Orleans has the sixth best strength of schedule during the fantasy playoffs. So during the weeks 15, 16, 17 or 14. 15, 16, 17. When do. When did the playoffs start again? Because I don't think 15. Sorry I messed it up.

[A]

But regardless, well, 14 is the playoffs. It's like you get in a winning in situation. 14 kind of becomes the playoff sometimes.

[D]

Right. Panthers, Jets, Titans, Falcons those weeks. So like obviously pretty juicy matchups there. I just think strength of schedule, the trajectory of Tyler Shuck, hopefully he continues to get a little bit better as the season goes on. And then of course just Olave is just getting so much volume. I don't think he's necessarily going to be a wide receiver one the rest of the year, but a good rock solid number two. If you're looking for that type of guy to like really strengthen your playoff squad, I think he makes a lot of sense.

[B]

Olave is probably the number one Glansburg at the wide receiver position every year.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Just like consistently put up 1200 yards and nine touchdowns and is good. If Olave was on a different team, if a lot of it was just on the Patriots, him and Drake May would be a very famous one.

[A]

Two that's a great. Yeah because I, I've always felt a lot of his deep ball tracking is really good and just hasn't had a quarterback who could do that. I mean even Derek Carr. I mean Derek Carr's deep ball comes and goes, but I mean when it's good, it's good. I mean Olave looked awesome but I totally agree. I like that one. DK also, I think a lot of it's just also just is like you can figure out a trade for a lobby. He's easier to acquire people number three here. I'm interested in this one. Craig, you have Quinn. Sean Judkins, the running back for the Browns.

[B]

Yeah. So Quinton Judkins started out the season really, really hot. Got a little banged up and now the last month he's been. He's been pretty bad. I mean the Browns have been a disaster and he last three weeks, five points, nine points, three points, he's not catching passes. So basically for a month in this period where it's like the teams are separating themselves in your fantasy league.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Like you're kind of, you're kind of at the point now where you know if your team is going to make it or not. And the last month Quinshon has been terrible for you. And if you look at their schedule, they have the six easiest remaining schedule in the league. They played the Raiders, the Niners, the Titans and the Bills. And I personally think Quinshon was looks fantastic still like his game against Baltimore last week was. The numbers did not look great, he had five points. But if you actually watch the game and you watch him, I still think he's really good. I still think the, the Browns line matchup dependent is able to give him a little bit of wiggle room and I think this is going to be like a rest of the season. Rookie continues to get his sea legs and could be one of the better running backs to finish the season and like he'll look a little bit more like we saw earlier. I just think it's been a bad 34 week stretch for him, but I think Quinchon is genuinely one of the better running backs in the league already. He looks fantastic to me.

[D]

Yeah, absolutely. I mean if you look at his, the number of opportunities he's getting in the offense too, it's insane. Like you know, 19 opportunities, 25 opportunities, 12, 25, 13. Like he's getting up into the 20s quite often in terms of carries and targets and so I mean he's. Yeah, the numbers are going to come when they start facing some like lighter defenses. Raiders, 49ers, Titans, Bears, Bills, Steelers on deck. So yeah, I really like this one. And Judkins is one of those guys where it's just clear he's good.

[A]

He seems like a fringe top 10 running back. Like not even fantasy, just real life.

[B]

I agree.

[A]

The top five, whatever order you want to put them, I don't care. The top fives like Jonathan Taylor, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, Bijan Jameer Gibbs as the top five. I don't care the order. And then there's like Derek Henry, Devon Hn who obviously very different players. Josh Jacobs and then it's like is Judkins 8th or 9th or I mean maybe he's 12th, but I'm like he really seems incredible so far.

[D]

That's. Yeah, it's the nature of the running back position. It's like it actually skews really young just because it's so hard to stay explosive.

[B]

It can change so quick. Like you can see a rookie Come in and you're like, oh, this guy has the juice.

[A]

Yeah. And Bills and Rams fans are probably like James Cook, Karen Williams. And you're right. I'm sorry, I didn't.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, to be honest, Jenkins is probably 10th.

[B]

He's probably like if Clinton was on the Bills or on the Rams, I, you know, I think he'd be fucking awesome.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But yeah, I mean, for the last five weeks, Judkins single digit points. So people are probably quite frustrated with him right now.

[D]

Random question. Because I know that we talked about this during the draft time, but I remember it was a little bit of a controversy, not a lot, but that the Browns took Judkins over Trayvon.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Do you. How do you feel about that now? I still feel like it's probably the right move for the Browns who have taken Judkins over Trayvon.

[B]

I think Judgins is. I still think he's better than Trayvon.

[D]

Yeah, I had Trayvon ranked a little bit higher than Judkins, mainly because of the passing game stuff. But. But yeah, I mean, Judkins has been even better than I thought he'd be.

[B]

Well, they both serve the right purpose for their team. It feels like what Trayvon brings opposite Ramandre works and then what Quinn Sean brings opposite Dylan Sampson, who I think is also a good rookie, also works.

[A]

Yeah, I think Judkins and Ramondre would have been redundant for New England and Ramondri and Trivia and Henderson together make a lot of sense. And similarly, I think the Browns kind of looked at it as they were getting. They were losing Nick Chubb and Judge. I mean, with the quarterback situation, the Browns really needed like an early down guy who to be able to be what he's been. So I think it made sense for the teams.

[D]

Imagine if the Raiders would have taken offensive tackle and then Judkins like in the second.

[A]

This, this is. This was the Saquon thing. The Giants took Saquon and then Will Hernandez, a guard. And they could have taken. Could have traded back, added three seconds and taken Quentin Nelson and Nick Chubb. But it's fun.

[D]

What it could have.

[A]

Should have the only Dave. And then later the only trade back Dave Gettleman ever did in his career was for Kadirius Tony. So it's fine.

[D]

Cool.

[A]

I'm over it. Number four here. Craig, you have Ricky Pearsall, the receiver for the 49ers. Yeah, it's been a trade target.

[B]

It's been seven weeks since Ricky Pearsall has done anything for you. He finally came back from his knee injury that lasted way longer than I think everybody expected, and he had one catch for zero yards. I. I think the underlying. I think, like, my. My general advice with this is like, don't panic. Ricky Pearsall is really good. Looked off him the first month of the season was averaging like 80 yards a game. And just like all of the off season projections, he was one of it on everybody's love list to start the season. And like, it immediately bore out. You kind of immediately were like, oh, the stuff we saw at the end of last year. The, like, a lot of the guys like Matt Harmon were talking about how his route running, his ability versus man and zone, like it it's going to work. And they were all right and he is really good. But he's been out for so long, people are probably very frustrated with him. They've had to make do, find other wide receivers that have worked. They probably started him last week. He got them zero points. The. The Niners Purdy is back. It looks good. The Niners have the third easiest schedule for wide receivers for the rest of the season, and Pearsall was running a bunch of routes. He just kind of didn't get targeted.

[D]

Sort of like high variance thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Shaking off the rust.

[B]

Yeah. So I think if you can get them, it is. This might go against a little bit what I'm saying. I mean, Ricky Piercel is very good. I'm sure people who've held on to him want to play him.

[D]

But I would say, Craig, I would. I would say you're probably right. Like a lot of people would be like, I held on to him this long, but after that, that dud of a game, I feel like there's probably a little bit of a confidence issue with people who have Pierce all like, how confident are you that he's gonna.

[B]

Be what you're thinking about if you should start him next week? Yeah, like, it's not automatic.

[D]

That's exactly how I am in my leagues. I'm like, man, do I start him or do I start like Juwan Johnson or something, who's just been getting six targets a game? It's like that kind of thing. And so I think he could be had for it for really not that much, just like a more sure thing. And I think Pearsall obviously gives you a lot more upside. He has the upside to be, you know, high end wide receiver two or something down the stretch, and that's obviously really valuable.

[B]

Would you rather have Pierce all than A.J. brown Rest of the season?

[D]

That's. I have to think about it. I think probably not, but I have to think about it.

[A]

Parasol is probably going to outscore A.J. brown the rest of the season.

[D]

Yeah. But it's hard to do.

[A]

I think that to your point, I think you nailed it, Craig, that people, when you wait for someone for long, like if you draft someone who's injured or suspended in the beginning of the year and then you kind of knock on the door right when they come back, you're mad like Rashid Rice. You're like, I waited six weeks. Now's not the time.

[D]

Not trading.

[A]

But when someone's hurt in the middle of the year, I do think it's different. So I. And when they come. And then when they come back and they have the one catcher, three yards, I think.

[B]

I know. It's a shame that the. If the trade deadline were a week from now and he had like another mediocre game, then you could really get him.

[A]

Yeah. He's incredible though. The. Speaking of which, though, because Brock Purdy's back. Dk, you also had Brock Purdy on this list.

[D]

Yeah, this is kind of like along the exact same lines. It's a schedule thing and we talked about this before the year. Like, the 49ers have an incredibly easy schedule and I feel like Purdy, he's getting healthy at the right time. Obviously he's getting some of his past catchers back. Kittle looks like he's full, fully back from his injury in the beginning of the year. Pierce all starting to ramp back up. I mean, I'm not really counting on this, but there is a chance that I, you could be back at some point in the next couple of weeks. Pretty just in his career has pretty consistently been a top 10 quarterback in fantasy, and it's because he plays in the Shanahan offense. He is a dynamic downfield thrower and he runs a lot. Right now he's not running a lot, but as he starts to get more healthy, as he starts to heal up a little bit more, in theory he can start scrambling more. He didn't scramble at all in this last game. But again, like Craig said, The 49ers have a very easy schedule going forward. This week it's the Panthers at the Browns and then after the buy, they go Titans, Colts, Bears, Seahawks. So there's obviously a couple good, a couple tougher matchups. Like obviously the Seahawks is a good defense, but I think there's a lot of opportunity for volume here with these, with these matchups. The 49ers are like. I mean, they're a borderline playoff team, so they're going to be playing for it. They're not going to, like, you don't have to fear them kind of shutting things down. I just like a lot of the thing. I like a lot of variables with the 49ers during the stretch run of the season.

[B]

It's going to be very interesting in the NFC west because I think everybody has the Niners below the Rams and Seahawks, and yet the Niner schedule is really easy. It's.

[D]

They're still in this, man. Even though they've lost so many of their key guys. Yeah. And I feel like anytime you have a Shanahan offense, it's like that's enough to. To kind of like make you a competitor.

[B]

I agree, though. Every year Brock purdy's like the QB 8 to 10 every time he's playing, every time he's on the field.

[D]

And I feel like the confidence level is probably not super high in him right now. He did have a pretty good game, obviously, this first one back. But, you know, again, it is just a matter of finding find someone that needs, you know, a receiver or tight end or running back or whatever and you like, there's streamable quarterbacks out there.

[B]

It's also been a decent quarterback waiver wire year. And so Purdy has played two games this season before last week.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And so people have had to figure it out. Like, guys like Jack, like, they might have Jackson Dart on their team now. Flacco's been really good. Like, there are a lot of quarterbacks that have kind of come in that you've been able to catch things up with. Yeah, Mario. So there's a chance now that somebody's like, Purdy's actually my backup now because I've Jackson Dart.

[D]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Which is exactly my case in the ringer fantasy league. We'll get to that.

[A]

We're going to get to that. We're going to get number six here. Dk, you have Woody Marks, the running back from Houston.

[D]

Yeah. This is just a, you know, obviously I don't think anyone. And I can already hear in like Heifetz's brain like, I'm not trading for any Texans running backs, but that's kind of exactly what you're going for in terms of like, people are probably not super confident in this Texans offense. Davis Mills is still playing this week.

[B]

C.J.

[D]

Stroud isn't due back till next week. But. But Woody Marks has quietly, completely taken over the Houston backfield. So if you're looking for an RB2. This is not like I'm saying he's going to be a league winner type down the stretch. This is more like just a get some good depth guy who's going to get a lot of volume down the stretch. I think he's a really good pass catcher. So he's pretty game script into, like, he's. He's game script agnostic. He's going to be involved in the game script whether they're losing or winning or whatever. Because he's a good pass catcher too. Um, but, you know, over the last couple of weeks, last two weeks, he has gotten 71% of the rush attempts and he's ran 44 routes versus 13 for Chubb. So he's. He's absolutely dominating this backfield now. And in the last couple of weeks, he's the 14th overall running back in fantasy expected fantasy points according to fantasypoints.com so this is. Now's the time to do it because they play the Bills this week who have given up a ton of points to running backs. So if you want to get ahead of this, kind of like Woody Marks breakout, he had a bunch of carries this last week. He touched the ball 19 times. He didn't really do a whole lot, but I think now is the time to go get him. And he gives you just like that floor of a guy who's getting a lot of volume down the stretch.

[B]

I could say it.

[A]

I don't want to trade for any Texans running backs.

[D]

Bang.

[A]

No, I'm. No, I'm actually kind of. I like this. I like this because I think Woody Marks is a good example of a player. It's probably just like on someone's bench and maybe they're not playing him, or if they are playing him, they're like, I could probably do better than this. And if you need a running back, yeah, this is. This is like a Z Flowers S guy where it's like, you could probably get Woody Marks if you really want to. The problem with trading for Woody Marks is there's the IKEA effect. You know, furniture that people build, people are more attached to. The problem is someone probably either drafted Woody Marks late.

[B]

That's really.

[A]

No, it's true.

[D]

Well, they probably picked him up on the waivers.

[A]

Either way, though. The problem is when you add someone on waivers, you actually get attached to them, like, irrationally.

[B]

It's like. It's like kind of the opposite.

[D]

I kind of feel like I'm the opposite. I'm like, if I pick a guy up on waivers and he turns into something good. I'm like, I'm gonna. I gotta make money off of this.

[B]

It's like his cat, they, you know, saved him.

[A]

They.

[B]

They. What word am I? You adopted him.

[A]

You rescued him from an alley. Now he's priceless.

[D]

Rescued is so just like. There's a lot of arrogance there. I feel like, what if he was having a great life before that?

[A]

No, he was. He was. Point, though, if you pay for a pet, we pay for a dog.

[D]

You see, he was living on the street.

[B]

Read.

[D]

Maybe he likes the best life, you.

[A]

Know, he rescued me. Is the tr.

[D]

Every cat I know has, like, four houses.

[B]

This is.

[A]

They're like the boomers. They have all these mortgages we can't even get in the market.

[D]

They collect.

[A]

They.

[D]

They set up franchises. They collect families that feed them.

[B]

They're like these women that, like, sleep with NBA players. This is like every. I got guys in every city.

[A]

It's true. You think they're more like NBA players? You just work here.

[D]

They go to different towns every. Every night.

[B]

Yeah. Maybe that's a good zag. DK against rescuing pets. They don't want to be.

[A]

They were doing fine.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

They want independence.

[B]

Animals began on the street, forced me to live here. You know what I mean? Like, they started out on the street. We domesticated them. Did they ask for that? No.

[A]

Well, that's the.

[B]

No.

[A]

Humans, domesticated dogs, cats. Domesticated people. Like, cats train people. That's very true.

[D]

I'm just kidding. You definitely rescued Sam.

[A]

No, you're right. No, you're right. That was good to apologize in case Jackie listens to this.

[D]

Sam. Sam's a great cat.

[B]

No, he enjoyed eating garbage on the street. I actually.

[D]

I rescued my dog from. He. They found him and the entire litter living in a ditch in Texas. And there had been, like, evidence. They were, like, eating rocks and stuff. I'm like, jesus Christ, George.

[B]

How about George?

[D]

Yeah, George eating rocks.

[A]

Nobody's like, nobody eats his own. That's probably how he survived.

[B]

I know.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, you know, haunted past. It's all deadly.

[A]

I've been thinking more and more about, like, oh, my God, fantasy rewatchables. We should also do a category for, like, the craziest thing any of us said this season. And I think DK says, has to be. My dog is more athletic than Secretariat. I think that has to be DK's.

[B]

That's the most inflated. I still get confidence in your pet. I swear, everybody. Their animal is like God's gift to the world by the way we should do on the fantasy rewatchables, we should do a category about like the like a rescue category for like the waiver wire person that you added that you feel the best about. It's like you would never give up.

[A]

Yeah, it's like they actually rescued me.

[B]

I kind of feel like I added Troy Franklin week two. Didn't think anything of it. Now dude, Troy Franklin's a contributing member of my team and I love him.

[A]

We'll see. I think Alec Pierce's prop might take that one home. Yeah, we'll have to see. We'll bring that in. Okay, next. Well the last one here, Craig, you have DK Metcalf, receiver for the Steelers.

[B]

I'm glad you put him at the bottom because I feel the least strongly about him. Here's the what I'll say is, is that I still trust DK Metcalf as a touchdown scoring player and that's how he's made his bones this season with the Steelers. He is sixth in red zone targets over the last month and yet he has zero touchdowns in his last three games. I'm betting on that to switch a little bit partially because the Steelers have the number one easiest remaining schedule for wide receivers. The three weeks touchdown drought for him is the longest of the season for him. I don't really Mason Rudolph might even help a little bit for for DK Metcalf, but I think either way I just like the schedule. I'm betting on a little bit of touchdown regression. He's had a great target share the last two weeks. 25, 28%. I'm just kind of like no other receivers on the Steelers are good at all. So that's kind of where I'm at with that. But I'm glad you this is latch because I feel the same way.

[A]

I think it's this is a buy low. Like this is we always my joke that you guys hate is that there has to be ew and value and I think that this is something where people are like oh you want DK Metcalfe has not had eight fantasy points for the last five weeks and then now you're going to open the blurb and you're going to see Mason Rudolph might play and you're like yeah, I should get rid of this guy. Which is hard to find for people who are talented. And yeah, I do think it's worth taking the plunge. I do think Mason Ridolf will still be able to get him the ball. And yeah, like having the Bears and Bills coming out like I think. I think this makes sense and it's a worthy risk.

[B]

Yeah, it's like, look, I don't think he's going to be catching like 10 passes for 140 yards out of nowhere, but I do think that you could, like, he probably will be better than he's been.

[A]

Given the history of the show, we should bet on him and have exactly 10 catches for 140 yards. Okay. I want to run by a few other people. Well, one, just to check in on people we talked about last week and if we still feel that way. And also, first of all, just the Broncos because we probably should mention RJ Harvey, the running back and Cortland Sutton as as trade targets just because they're on by and if you're going to make the playoffs and the person who has them might not, maybe they don't want to get rid of them, but I don't even know. It's really just in theory, you should buy the dip because the Broncos but are playing weirdly on offense and maybe you just want to. But it's also weird to endorse them because DK always points out Sean Payton.

[D]

Is a serial killer. I have a philosophical disagreement with doing anything with the Broncos, but if you were inclined to trade for a Bronco, RJ Harvey is a great example of someone to trade for because J.K. dobbins is on IR. RJ Harvey came in and got like the vast majority of the workload in the game, but didn't really actually score that many points. So perfect trade target because I think he's going to continue to get a pretty good workload and will score more points given those opportunities. However, I don't. I don't feel great about that first thing where he's going to continue to get a lot of volume. Excuse me. I almost started crying in there.

[A]

Even just mentioning Sean Payton has you, like, physically ill. Gets me emotional.

[B]

Yeah. DK texted us as we were preparing this episode. He said, if anyone wants to do RJ Harvey, I think he makes sense. I just won't do a Broncos. Nikkei does.

[A]

He does have principles. Don't miss the movie event of a lifetime. Visionary director James Cameron presents the greatest chapter of the biggest saga of all time. Avatar, Fire and Ash. Now playing in theaters. A new threat will rise in the character of Varong, who leads the ruthless Ash people. And a stunning new discovery will threaten to change the world of Avatar forever. Avatar, Fire and Ash, now playing in theaters, IMAX and 3D screens everywhere. Get tickets now. This episode is brought to you by Velveeta Game day is all about the Tailgate spread. First things first, who's bringing the Velveeta Drip? Just like your favorite players on the field, Velveeta fans go all in on what they love. Creamy shells and cheese, melty Velveeta blocks and cheesy jarred quesos. They're taking down one taste bud at a time. Velveeta is the real MVP of the Tailgate. You've got to respect the drip. Do yourself a favor and stock up on Velveeta before kickoff. This episode is brought to you by Spotify Portal for Backstage. But you're wondering what's Portal? Well, it's an internal developer portal built to improve developer experience and boost productivity. All software components are centralized, documentation is automated and easy to maintain. New projects and components just a few clicks. With your best practices already built in, think less friction, more innovation. Ready to double your productivity? Try Spotify portal at backstage.Spotify.com the Ringer fantasy Football show is brought to you by FanDuel. Thursday Night Football continues to deliver and FanDuel's keeping the energy up with their $2 million Thursday Night Football Jackpot. Place an anytime touchdown score bet using your profit boost and if your player scores the first or last touchdown of the game, you'll earn a share of $2 million in bonus bets. I think going to go with touchdowns. I just think James Cook is always a good bet for these just I mean the Bills obviously Josh Allen is always going to be the guy people go to, but I think James Cook is the Texas defense is really good but I just still would bet on the Bills to score first. So I'm going to go with James cook. Head to FanDuel.com Ringer Fantasy to download the app and get started. FanDuel, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL must be 21 plus and present in slick states or 18 plus in President D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in must apply profit boost token and select market prize pool to be split equally among all eligible participants who made the correct first or last TD pick bonus issued as non withdrawable bonus bets which expire 21 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See [e-mail] gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut all right, recapping people we talked about from last week Jameson Williams for the Lions. Dickey liked him. That is was a good Call because it's so far that window is probably over because Jameson Williams has kind of played too well to actually be a trade target anymore. David Montgomery we talked about, I think David Montgomery still is a good trade target as well. Just everything you said last week, Craig, just like some of the Gibbs stuff will probably float on Montgomery, but he hasn't played that well. Rashid Shahid, I still think is an excellent trade target. He hasn't done a ton. I think he's going to be a larger part of that offense. There's always a worry that he's more of an issue like in real life, better impact player. But I think Rashid Shahid is closer to someone might cut that. Like, I think if you're desperate and you just want to give up like a very small, like a bench asset, someone you're not going to play for, someone else that they're not playing. I think Rashid Shahid, he give me.

[D]

The second person in a trade offer, right?

[A]

Yeah. I think Shahid a good throw in that could pop a Marion Hampton for the Chargers. If someone's like really win now. And the Chargers are on by. Hampton's on ir. Trey Benson, same thing. Still on ir. If someone has them and they're not going to definitely make the playoffs, I don't think they want them. And then lastly, the question before we move on is just A.J. brown, would you do it or not? Would you acquire A.J. brown?

[B]

Do you think. Do you think he's not healthy and that every year he has his knee drained and the knee. Do you think physically he's. He's at a different stage of his career or do you think this is just him being pissy?

[A]

I think it's pissy. And the offense went back to being what it was, I think.

[B]

And of course, all that stuff, I'm saying, like how much of this is like Petullo and he's pissed and all that stuff?

[A]

We.

[B]

Or do you think A.J. brown is not as good as he used to be in any way?

[A]

If it. I'm curious who you think. I think if. If A.J. brown's dropped off, I. I would lean toward. It's not a physical drop off. It's like a. It's a mental drop off. I think he's checked out.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's almost. Honestly, it's more like an NBA situation where sometimes players who are really talented suck because they're unhappy. And then like Jimmy Butler went to the warriors and suddenly was incredible. I got. Fuck warriors jar. Gotta put a dollar in there. But I think it's an NBA situation, dude.

[B]

Steph's been cooking lately. Are you kidding me?

[A]

Matt? I brought this up.

[B]

I tweeted that he's top five all time now. Everybody was mad, but whatever. I believe that.

[A]

The only thing Craig is that controversial, though, because he has so many.

[B]

I said he's maybe top three. Like when it's all said and done. What he's doing at 37 is fucking absurd for a 6 to 185 guard.

[A]

I'm just saying Craig says the numbers because he's 60. 185.

[B]

No, I'm saying because that's very small and usually those guys do not age well in the NBA. So Steph looks exactly the same as he did five years ago. It's unbelievable. The only guy who can thwart Victor Wembanyama and he's the shortest guy on the court and he's the only one who can handle him.

[A]

I mean, I. I don't know.

[D]

I. I feel like it's. Anyway, Steph's up there. I'd say also the whole shoe thing.

[B]

You guys following that?

[A]

Yeah. What's going on with this? So Nico, that Mavs GM who was fired, botched the Under Armour deal back like 10 years ago for Nike. He got stuff carried under arm instead of Nike. And then what's going on? He's going back to Nike now.

[B]

I don't know if that. No, it's not confirmed where he's going. He's just leaving Under Armour, which is a big deal. I mean, guys usually when you have somebody like that, you hold on to them and give them, you know, it's impossible for those guys to leave. Steph is leaving. I think a lot of people think he's not going to go anywhere and he's going to like have his own brand or do something like that. But yeah, he's a free agent shoe.

[A]

Steph has a Gatorade commercial or something where he's like Powerade or used to Gatorade or something. And he's like, it must take a lot for me to switch. And I'm like, is this a drink commercial? Making fun of the fact that he's switching shoes.

[B]

Oh, I didn't even see that.

[A]

Which I think it is.

[B]

In his first game after the announcement, he wore Kobe's. Which are Nike, which.

[D]

This is an off topic or this is a random question, but if you are an NBA player, what brand would you most want to be sponsored by Nike because you think that they have the best equipment?

[B]

I think a combination of, like, I.

[D]

Don'T know, marketing power and just like.

[A]

I mean how can the brand is to be different?

[B]

It's not under armour.

[A]

I can't imagine picking a different company unless they were offering you.

[D]

Well, like. Oh, Ohtani.

[B]

I like New Balance a lot actually.

[D]

New Balance. I think I feel like New Balance has cool.

[B]

Yeah, I like New Balance too. I'd probably be them. Nike's like the legacy. Always been there, always going to be there. And New Balance is like the guys who are trying to, you know, break in a little bit.

[D]

I think that's kind of like the root of my. My question is like cool. I like Nike's just always like everybody's Nike. You know what I mean? Like it's. It's almost like Trey at this point. Oh yeah, you're on Nike. Cool. So I don't know, like Adidas, Would that be cool or are they just kind of lame?

[B]

Don't.

[A]

I gotta tell you, I don't think I'd make a startup shoe company cool. I think I would cement how they're kind of lame.

[D]

I really want someone to sponsor me.

[A]

And my flat potato feet. My 4e with Brooks would be Brooks flat foot shoes. I actually would love to get sponsored by Nike if they would just make Jordans and 4e like that would be. But really until they make air Jordans and 4e with Nike. If you're listening, if you're like any pairs lying around that like someone didn't take, like I'll take them. But until then, yeah, I think Brooks is going to have to make my.

[B]

You could wear all the like custom shoes that they make for the CEOs of all these companies as gifts that they don't want.

[A]

I actually was thinking I think you should find we should have shoe buddy people in life. It should be instead of feet picks we need to share shoe sizes and have like shoe exchanges with people like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah, that's a good idea.

[A]

Anyway, we can move on. Okay. Ringer Fantasy Football league update.

[B]

Craig.

[A]

Craig's having something happened to Craig's team this week. I've never seen or come the coming week which is he is in a three receiver league. He has no receivers.

[B]

He can play correct Corland Sutton on by lad McConkey on by Drake. London is going to be out for a month. It's really not great. I lost Tucker Kraft a few weeks ago. Ashton Genti is a disaster. Lamar was out for a month. It's been really hard. We've been hanging on by a goddamn threat.

[A]

So Bill who Was in last place.

[D]

Or tied for less than fucking toothpicks.

[B]

And not great Paperclip. I might have to trade Lamar for like three players just to stay alive.

[A]

Bill was in last place or tied for less for a long time. Bill actually now has more points than Craig. And honestly, if Bill wins this week and Craig loses, Bill actually might make the playoffs. Bill can win out and make the playoffs?

[B]

Oh, for sure he can. I mean, he's four and seven, I'm five and six. So what's nice about this league is there's only 10 people in it and six are making the playoffs. So it's like everybody, I would say maybe other than Chris Ryan, who's 3 and 8, everybody has a shot to make the playoffs.

[A]

Still. Everyone does have a shot.

[B]

Even Chris does, in theory.

[A]

I. I'm in first. Dk, you're in second currently. Right now, if things held, we would have the first two spots in the buys. Salvos Salvo could catch either of us. Sal's in third, so we can wait.

[B]

Who's in fifth, though?

[A]

Bangkok. Craig. Yeah, yeah. Hanging on, hanging on with that said, we could go to emails, but first, how about. We'll cut this if it's boring, but Craig, you want to negotiate a trade right now? Let's try.

[D]

Oh, God. Two hours later I don't think we should put that in the show.

[A]

Okay, Tika, you're probably right. We probably should not put that in the show. That was really boring. Anyway, we'll move on. No one cares about your leagues. Okay, Fantasy court.

[D]

Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.

[A]

I don't really want to be handcuffed.

[B]

The definition of object is a material thing that can be seen and touched.

[D]

Where did Richter get this music?

[B]

Definitely some, like, licensed music bank. Royalty free.

[D]

All right.

[B]

Definitely royalty free. Hopefully just like TomTom.

[A]

This is from Jack J. Bo.

[B]

Jackie.

[A]

For. For breakfast, I had a croissant with sausage, egg and cheese, and a canned orange. Gatorade. Canned. I skipped over this.

[B]

Does can come in?

[A]

He must have been bottled, right? There's no cans at Gatorade.

[B]

Sausage.

[D]

You don't write canned Gatorade unless it's in a can.

[A]

Have you guys ever seen Gatorade? I don't know. Gatorade came in cans.

[B]

I'm looking at it, apparently. I do see some cans here. They're these. I see.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Well, it's weird. Like, Gatorade's not carbonated. I feel like there's very few uncarbonated drinks in cans.

[D]

There are some, not often.

[A]

Water now in cans.

[B]

Yeah, they got water now cans.

[D]

There's like juice in cans sometimes.

[A]

I've just never seen one. All right.

[B]

Candor, I guess like V8 is in cans.

[A]

Gatorade, though, is like iced coffee. Half, more than half. The fun is you get to see the color from the. The outside.

[B]

Yeah. Also, I like that he specified the. The container the Gatorade was in.

[A]

Just. Yeah. Wow. Well, maybe.

[B]

He must have. He must have been proud about the fact that it was a can. Also, a sausage, egg and cheese on a croissant is. That's a. That's a decadent breakfast.

[A]

It's probably Jimmy Dean, but if it's not. If you're ever. I mean, DK wasn't ready for this, but you're at like, you're at a real deli and you can get bacon, egg and cheese and a croissant. It does rip. Then you get it like griddled. You get the grill march. The croissant.

[B]

I've never had that.

[A]

It's.

[D]

Oh, it's.

[A]

It's a. It's a treat. Jack says my brother married his wife last year, and her family had previously had their own little fantasy league that my brother was in, and when they got married, they opened it up to include my parents, my girlfriend, myself. So now it's just like the. The two sides of the family, from the brothers, the brother's family, and the brother's wife's family. Or in one fantasy league. He says, I'm writing this email at 6:00am Mountain Time because I live in Denver, because in the middle of the night, middle of the night, a trade went down between my father in law and my mother in law. Oh, the father. It's funny, he's wrote, my father in law is six five, and I'm like, oh, six foot five. Don't fight him. No, that's his record. Huge difference. Father's father, five, six.

[D]

Like, he's very scary, man.

[A]

Well, he wrote that the mother in law is 7:4, which I assume.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

These are records.

[D]

Wow. But anyway, family.

[A]

So it turns out at 5am Eastern, which is their time zone, the mother in law traded Darius Slayton and Bam Knight to the father in law for Javante Williams and Stefan Diggs, which is obviously lopsided. Father in law plays three of the toughest teams remaining for the next three weeks. So he might not make the playoffs. This is just braggy writes, there's no money. I won last year. I live in Denver. I will still have to pay $30 just to ship this trophy to the east coast if she wins. My question, is this trade so egregious that it violates the sanctity of the league even It's a free league. Our two families, not that close. Is it worth bringing this trade up before and potentially starting drama before a busy holiday season?

[B]

No. The answer's no.

[D]

Right?

[A]

Gonna accuse the father in law of sending Javante a digs for slaying his hamstring.

[C]

Even play.

[B]

I like him saying, I like that brief line in there that said our family's not that close.

[D]

And this is like. You know how they call like lawyers and. And judges, like counselor? Right. I don't think. I guess not judges, but like lawyers, like counsel. I feel like we're doing fantasy counseling. More than fantasy.

[A]

Well, also to be clear, he didn't mean they're not close. He said we're not incredibly close. As in like they're not going to do the holidays together.

[D]

They live in a distance.

[A]

Yeah, sorry, sorry. I. I feel like if they're listening to this, they're gonna be like, what the. Oh, I think he meant they're not close. Like he's in Denver and they're these like. I don't think.

[B]

Oh, I thought he was saying like they weren't that close as a family.

[A]

He said we get along, but we do separate holidays.

[B]

Got it. Got it.

[A]

That's funny. If their families listen to this and they're just like, wow, fucking Jack. Throwing us under the bus.

[D]

This is like small claims court.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just like the idea of like the father in law and the mother in law like doing it. They're clearly going to call them out colluding.

[B]

I would, I would venture to guess that there's even a chance that the wife doesn't even know the trade occurred and that the husband grabbed both phones. The father in law just did it himself at 5am before the wife was up. That's.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That crossed my mind.

[D]

I think again, gotta warn people that this doesn't fly. But then probably don't reverse it. They can't just the holidays.

[A]

They can't charge a husband and a wife for the same crime.

[B]

The worst fucking attorneys.

[A]

Yeah, Jack, I would just eat this one. Sorry, bud.

[B]

Once again, to be clear.

[C]

No.

[D]

No pot. No money involved.

[A]

Oh my God. Family have to pay for the fucking shipping.

[D]

Family for what? What comes first, guys, Remember what comes first?

[B]

Usually the guy.

[D]

Dinner family.

[A]

This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. Gift, gift. Hooray. Give great jeans this holiday season with American Eagle. They have all the wish list worthy new arrivals for everyone on your list, including you. Check out the comfy cozy sweaters, soft fleece sweatshirts, hoodies, flannels and so much more. Plus you'll love their trending jeans like the high waisted Stovepipe original straight boot cut and a whole bunch of other fits. They've got every style and everyone covered. You can check it all [e-mail] or just go to the store. Let's do some emails here.

[D]

Emails, emails.

[A]

Just following up the thread of just older people just not knowing terms and saying things wrong. Want to start one here from Molly. Just following up on the narrative of all these announcers. Don't know what hooking up means. So Molly writes, last night my family had a few 19 year old missionaries from our church over for dinner and my 74 year old mom stopped by and joined us. And in the course of the conversation my mom starts talking about one of my daughter's friends who is 16 years old. And my mom says Sarah needs to hook up with the missionaries.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

And Molly writes, I was sitting across the table from three horrified missionary boys as their expression went from horror to embarrassment and then a desperate attempt to a desperate attempt to not laugh in her face.

[B]

Yeah man, the hookup thing is an epidemic.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With the missionaries it's a huge problem and I don't know how to solve it.

[D]

I know you guys should hook up.

[A]

Hook up.

[D]

This one also is from Christian C. Bone.

[A]

Chrissy Christian writes, I work for a small company owned by a husband and wife in their 70s. Let's just call them. Chuck and Maria own this company and recently we had an all hands on deck meeting because someone called and complained to Maria about an order that was not delivered. Like her client called and complained to Maria and Chuck was extremely upset and he called us all in for this big meeting about what the issue was. And I think Chuck, it seems that he was reaching for the term chewed out. You know, like you yell at someone, you get chewed out.

[D]

I know where this is going.

[A]

But instead Chuck begins this meeting, this very serious all hands meeting and says, and I quote, maria was eaten out by a woman yesterday.

[D]

Oh God.

[A]

She ate her out for a good 10 minutes. Oh, and Maria said she had never been eaten out like that before in her life.

[D]

Good Lord, this is like from a movie.

[A]

It's a nightmare.

[B]

So him repeating it over and over is borderline scripted.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

Said it three times every, every single time. It like made it even funnier. Never been eaten out like this before in her life. Solid 10 minutes.

[B]

So I gotta be honest, that phrase in general is. I'm not even sure we should be using it. Like.

[A]

Yeah, we have to.

[B]

We, I think, as a. As a society have to retire that phrase. Way too vivid.

[A]

Yeah, dude. He continues. He's like. So of course, at that point, nobody could say anything, but we're all trying.

[D]

To clap is what I know.

[A]

He's like, I'm in the front row just trying to keep it together out of fear of being fired. And the guy behind him could not keep it together. So he starts laughing. And then he's called into the office and, like, almost was going to be for not taking this seriously. And he has to explain to the owners what they said. And then he says they were so embarrassed. Nobody's talked about it since.

[B]

Yeah, look, that's. That's outrageous.

[D]

Oh, God.

[B]

I. I got a good one from my friend today. He texted me, my friend Chase. Yeah. So Chase has a younger brother named Colby. And Chase texted me. For my brother's entire life, my dad has called him Kobe, like Kobe Bryant. He goes. It has severely bothered my brother for years. How the fuck do you name your child and then mispronounce it for their entire life? The ultimate dad move is you pick the name and still get it wrong.

[D]

Does he know his name has an L in it?

[A]

Why. Why did they name him Colby? Is it a family name?

[B]

No, I don't believe so.

[A]

So his dad named him Colby and they just. Did the mom want the name or did the dad want the name?

[B]

I bet you it's just like. It's kind of like the L's sometimes are tough to pronounce. And he just. I call him Kobe. I love this. It severely bothered my brother for years. How the fuck do you name your child and mispronounce it? And then he said, also, he always mispronounces Chipotle. But that's pretty standard. It feels like Chipotle is like a real Chipotle.

[A]

I had not heard of that one, Craig. I mean, like. But by far the number one we've gotten is people say, my dad says Chipotle.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. The best was somebody mailed in and said they. That their dad still calls Chipotle and tries to order. And they have to explain to him that you're not. You can't do that. Like, you can't order on the phone.

[D]

I'm talking to you right now all the time.

[B]

Just write it down.

[D]

I have American legal 10.

[A]

I have money.

[B]

Pull out a Piece of paper. White. White rice, pinto fajitas.

[A]

What is your guys's chipotle order? Chipotle. Chipotle.

[B]

I go white rice, black beans, the veggie fajitas, chicken or steak, depending. I go mild and medium salsa, cheese, guac, lettuce.

[D]

It's pretty good.

[B]

What do you do?

[A]

I go, yeah, white rice. I do half black beans, half pinto. Oh, and I do the fajita veggies.

[B]

Nice.

[A]

And then I think when you half beans, it primes them, you know, they give you less meat if you kind of, like, ask to do the hat, you know, so it primes them. So it kind of warns them. So instead, what else do is I'll say, like, steak. Then when they're done, I'm like, actually, I'll go double meat carnitas. And then there's kind of an urge to kind of match the amount. Yeah, and then. Yeah, and then you. I don't do the cheese anymore because the dare, it misses, you know?

[B]

But the cheese is good.

[A]

Guac. I know it is good.

[B]

Guac is good.

[A]

The salsa, they don't charge you extra.

[D]

Anymore, is that right? No, as far as I know. Well, maybe some places, but the ones I've gone to lately.

[A]

But then I. If I. You're trying to be bad, you get the extra tortilla, and if you roll the burrito yourself, you kind of can get two meals out of it, because you can roll a burrito and there's plenty left in the bowl for later. But that was cool when I was young and needed the six bucks. But now I'm older and I actually needed to not have the 600 calories. Calories from the tortilla.

[B]

So that's like.

[D]

Actually, I might be thinking of Qdoba. Oh, they're very similar, aren't they?

[A]

Moe's.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

If I'm. If I'm really feeling slutty, I'll get chips and then turn into, like, just a chip and dip with the bowl situation.

[A]

Oh, yeah. Oh, that's. That. That is unbelievable. So good.

[B]

I genuinely think that the chipotle guacamole is, like, some of the best guac I've ever had. And I don't know why it's so good. It's just like, cilantro, lime salt, and onions.

[A]

But I think it's because the salt, I think they added a lot of salt to it. And I think salt. You'd be amazed at how much home food that you can actually add a lot more salt to it, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Ton of Salt in that.

[B]

Yeah, that's like the one I. I think David Chang is just like, white people do not season their food enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's like the biggest issue with cooking at home is like, none of us season our food enough.

[A]

It was funny to go to Dublin and outside of literal breakfast, no one really recommended any Irish food at all. From the entire country. No. It was like beans on toast. Better than I thought. But overall it was like, yeah, eat some blood sausage in the morning and just drink all day and like, what are you eating? Like, oh, when you're drunk, have some Chinese food.

[B]

Yeah. You get a spice bag, 10 Guinness. That's enough calories.

[A]

300 emails about recommendations in Ireland and like two people mentioned food.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Fun times.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I think that's all we got. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Austin. Thank you. I'm so sorry about the Raiders, Austin. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you for listening. Emails of ringerfantasyfootballgmail.com we'll take your trivia. Craig, take a moment, think about what trivia questions you want here, I think. And then fantasy football.demario.com follow us on Instagram and TikTok at ringer Fantasy football. Go. Follow us there. Thank you, Lord, Lord.

[D]

Thank you, Sinead o'.

[A]

Connor.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Nice.

[B]

Dk. Did you watch that famous SNL performance when she ripped up the photo of the Pope?

[D]

I did not. Not live, but I know what you're talking about.

[B]

Did you ever. Did you watch SNL live ever, back in the day? Like, sometimes.

[D]

Sometimes. Not Like a lot, I guess.

[B]

You were pro. That was 92. You were too young. How old were you in 92?

[D]

10. Yeah, that was a huge Sinead head back then, but yeah, that was in 92. That's wild.

[B]

I know.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

She recently passed away.

[A]

She passed a couple years ago. I was just googling that because I thought it was last year. It was already two years ago, actually.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Some.

[D]

Some of the all time bangers. She's. She's got some great songs.

[B]

I know. What's. What's nothing. Oh, nothing compared.

[D]

Nothing compares to you is a big one.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

She was. She was iconic back in the day.

[B]

Sure. Irish. Yeah.

[D]

Well, Big gulps, huh?

[A]

Well, the only thing I know is the speech and you kind of got and the songs and you guys kind of beat me to the punch on that and I was like, oh, those are kind of my three things I knew.

[B]

Yeah. Big gulps, huh? All right, Mike shakes you. She's got the biggest thing. Big gulps, huh?

[D]

All right, well, see you later, Craig. Are you Craig, do you like, quote Dumb and Dumber a lot? Do you know Dumb and Dumber like the back of your hand? Like my generation does?

[A]

Of course.

[D]

I feel like High Fitz doesn't.

[A]

Have you seen Dumb and Dumber, you guys? No, it's not. I feel like, like Happy Gilmore. I could. I. I don't know as well as you guys, but I've seen it like 25 times. I haven't seen Dumb and Dumb.

[D]

Feel like Dumb and Dumber is top three in movies. I can quote like, I can probably say movie.

[B]

I. I just really love Jim Carrey. Like I. We. We should do Ace Ventura for a movie quote episode. Yeah, we haven't done that on the rewatch was yet either. I love those movies.

[D]

Yeah, same here.

[A]

What would you say. Would you say the last culturally expired.

[B]

Culturally expired. It is. I mean, yeah. Ace Insurance has not lived on in the way other comics.

[D]

I disagree. Well, I think. Well, I know a lot of my friends and I quote it still.

[B]

But I would say to the neck, like to high vitzen people our age and even below, I think movies like Happy Gilmore have lived on much better than. Than Ace Ventura.

[D]

Yeah, Dumb and Dumber has lived on.

[B]

Better than Ace Ventura.

[D]

There's. Speaking of quotes, I just thought of this. I was talking to Skippy about this recently. One of the things that we always say to each other is goodbye, my love. Like when we're leaving, you know, and there's the. It's like the part from he's leaving the airport and he's like Caesar walking through the thing and he just goes, goodbye, my love. And then he hit by the. The crash test, or what is it called? The fucking airbag.

[B]

When. When Ace Ventura came out, fucking Roger Ebert and Gene Siskel destroyed it so much. And they were like, this is the worst shit I've ever seen. Jim Carrey will never have a movie career like this. It's over. It's not going to work. And then when the Truman show came out, they gave a formal apology to Jim Carrey to be like, we're very sorry. We just didn't understand Ace Ventura. And apparently it was a thing like anybody. It's like, hi. Fitz. Is like what we talk about with everything everywhere all at once. Anybody over 40, when Ace Venture came out, was like, I think this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. Like, how do people like this? I was watching it the other day.

[D]

7 of its time Yeah, I feel like. Yeah, I was watching it the other day. Ace Ventura definitely would appeal. It's kind of like almost in the Billy Madison thing where it's, like, so slapsticky and weird.

[B]

It's so goofy, and I can't so hard to it.

[A]

I think I just figured out my theory on this. I feel like things like that Billy mad Adam Sandler when he. Honestly, movies that kind of are funny because they are things you say in weird voices.

[B]

Yeah. People don't do characters anymore.

[A]

Like that Sandler, Jim Carrey. I feel like if you were number still 91 1.

[D]

All righty, then.

[A]

I feel like you have to be around your friends. Friends to quote it. And if you see it at a point in life where you kind of are just around, like, you're just your wife and your kids, like. And you can't just, like, quote it to your stupid friends. It won't stick.

[B]

Also, look, maybe this is incorrect, but don't you think a lot of these characters are kind of making fun of people with mental disabilities and you just can't do that anymore?

[D]

Billy Madison for sure.

[A]

Billy Madison is like, do you know I'm dumb enough? I never even put that together.

[B]

Billy Mad Billy, like Lloyd Christmas and Dumb and Dumber. I mean, those guys are a few cents short of a dollar. Like, a lot of.

[A]

I mean, that fell off the Jetway again, you know?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, you probably just can't do that.

[D]

Yeah. I think Billy Madison actually opposite Billy Madison is on the extreme. I think Dumb and Dumber is just like. You mean.

[B]

I think you mean Water Boy. Not. Not Billy.

[A]

Oh, yeah, Waterboy.

[D]

No, I mean Billy Madison. Well, Water boy is definitely Billy Madison, though. Like, there's parts of that movie where I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, he's chasing around an invisible penguin.

[A]

That I just kind of thought he was drunk.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

But Dumb and dumber is it. It's not smarter, but it is. It's wittier or something. I don't know.

[B]

It knows what it's doing.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

You know? Yeah.

[D]

Nobody got worms.

[B]

Nobody has characters real anymore. Honestly. Tim Robinson's kind of doing it a little bit.

[A]

I. I have to admit, I just watched someone emailed in a Tim Robbins skit this to Tim Robbins. I feel like Tim Robinson.

[B]

Robinson got Tim Robinson shot.

[A]

Shake.

[B]

Redemption.

[A]

You know what's so funny? He just said that, and I was like, tim Robbins. And in my head, I was like, I thought it was Tim Robinson. And I was like, don't say it wrong. Right.

[B]

Here. I'm fine.

[A]

I just matched what you said.

[B]

The most acceptable confusion.

[A]

I feel like every Tim Robinson sketch I've ever watched that people have sent me, I watch it, and I kind of just keep waiting for the part where I'm supposed to laugh.

[B]

You know what? H. Here's what I'll say about that. And the same thing you just said about the 90s comedies and how you need to talk about it with somebody to me, I think you should leave. Is. And all of these are way funnier when you talk to your friends about them. When you talk about the sketches, they become way funnier than actually watching.

[A]

Yes, exactly.

[D]

Well, that is a whole thing with my friends and I. Because I have friends who love Tim Robinson and all that. Like, I think you should leave the Detroiters to all those shows.

[B]

I. He. He makes me laugh so fucking hard.

[D]

Yeah, he's fudgeing. Hilarious. But I never actually watched all these shows because I personally think these shows need to be watched with friends. You can't watch it by yourself. It's not as good. It's not as funny.

[B]

But they need to be watched. They're awkward and uncomfortable, like, situations. They're not really punchlines.

[A]

I quote. I quote the show like, I just.

[B]

I.

[A]

Twice in this episode of how do we make money off this? And the hot dog. We're looking for the guy who did this. But, yeah, it's. It's.

[B]

I don't think during the sketch, you're kind of uncomfortable. You're like, oh, this guy's making an ass of himself. But then once it's done and you talk. You talk to your friends about it. It's hilarious.

[A]

Yeah, I watched Tim Robinson. The way other people talk about the Office and how they can't watch the Office because it's too cringe. And I'm kind of like, what do you mean, you handle that? And then I watched Tim Robinson and something about watching a joke that the punchline never comes. I just. I. I kind of can't make it through.

[D]

It's not. It's. It's totally different style of comic.

[B]

Did you watch Craig?

[D]

Did you watch the Chair Company yet?

[B]

Oh, I'm. I'm.

[A]

I want it. Is it good?

[D]

It's hilarious.

[B]

It is the most outrageous I've ever seen.

[A]

All right.

[D]

The End Pillow in town.

[B]

I won't spoil it. But, dk, did you finish the season? Episode five, did you?

[D]

No, I think I've done two. I think I've done two episodes. Episodes.

[A]

I'll crush it tonight. Don't spoil it. Is it the same thing?

[B]

It's pretty much the mo. Have you seen Friendship, the movie with him that came out this summer that is also.

[A]

I'm crushed and missing a theater, but I want. I want to watch all the stuff. I know he's smart and funny. Good.

[D]

Here. Let me get to my point, though, about what I was saying earlier about, like, these types of comedies is. And this. Maybe people that are a little older can relate to me. I. I personally don't like to watch comedy by myself. I think it's way more fun and just way more enjoyable. And, you know, it's just a different experience watching with your friends. Here's the problem. I don't really watch TV with my friends very often.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

I have a kid and a job. Like, how often are you going somewhere, someone's house, watching TV with them.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

You know what I mean? And, like, so when we get together, we have friends that have a kid. We get together with them all the time. And, like, that's like, the time when I can watch tv. And we started watching the Chair Company, and it's just, like, the most fucking hilarious show. But I haven't watched. I'm the same as High Fitz. I know all the memes. I know how to, like, you know, reference the show, but I haven't actually watched all of. I think you should leave. And I really need to.

[B]

The zipline sketch of him on the Bachelorette, and he's only there because he loves the zip line is, like, the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[D]

Dude, I. Craig, I sent that. So Calvin went to a birthday party, like, a year ago, and they had this, like, big bouncy castle, and Calvin spent the entire party playing. It's like a castle with, like, a slide. He'd spent the entire fucking party.

[B]

They're, like, on this side when the woman's like, andrew, I feel like I've made a really strong connection with you, and I'm, like, really happy to get to know you. Mark, I'm pretty sure you're just here because of the zip line. He's like, what?

[A]

And then it shows all the replays.

[D]

Of him going into the pool.

[B]

The maintenance guy's like, yeah. He keeps breaking it because he uses it so much. He's like, shut up, Mark. So fucking funny. Wait, one more thing before we go. And it shows him on it, like, doing tricks on it. Dude, it just kills me. Oh, my God. He's, like, shaking his legs, I think. What? They do what? Tim Robinson and his, like, Squad does that is unique is casting. I think they are the most kind of. They cast shows and sketches different than any other comedy I've ever seen. And I can't even really explain it, but all of the side characters are, they don't even seem like real people. Like, they are like these like larger than life characters that don't look like people you see every day are not actors you've seen anywhere else.

[D]

That's a big thing.

[B]

And it heightens the reality in a very weird way. It becomes like surrealist because of these people in the lines they give them. It's very interesting.

[A]

I just watched the one about lying to kids because I wanted to, I kind of wanted to bring that back about all the lies people told kids. And then there's one where he has, where there's a sketch, a sketch with him and like a six year old girl like, can we go to ice cream? He's like, no, it's closed. And he waits guy next to him and it's Bob Odenkirk. And he's like, yeah, they're closed. And your dad and I are best friends. And he just like three minutes of him just telling more lies to this child and making it to Robinson.

[B]

I, I recommend friendship. It's, it's, it's uncomfortable, but really funny. And the Chair company, they're both great. The end of episode five of Chair Company is one of the most insane things I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

Okay then. All right.

[B]

All right.

[D]

Craig, did you see the, the interview? I think it was Seth Meyer. Seth Meyers with Tim Robinson, where he's talking about what he was a writer on snl.

[B]

They couldn't get green.

[D]

None of his skits would get like approved. Except for the very last one before they, they shut. Turn the show off or whatever.

[B]

Yeah, their sketches, they had one where it was like, this is, it's this grandpa on his deathbed.

[A]

Oh, it hurts.

[B]

And he's like, he's like ready to drift off into and you know, and die peacefully. And he's like talking about how he's okay with it. He's come see. Comes to term with it. And then right before he's about to die, he's like, wait, no, go.

[A]

I don't want this.

[B]

He spots with me. He tried with me with his daughter. He's trying to suck the oxygen out of his granddaughter.

[A]

No, come back.

[D]

Oh, God, really good.

[B]

He's like, yeah, we didn't, they didn't.

[D]

Want to open SNL with that skit.

[A]

Yeah, goodbye Everyone. Must be 21 + in present in select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 + in present in D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling problem call 1-800- gambler or visit rg-help.com, call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 800-327-5050 for 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text HOPE NY in New York.