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Foreign welcome to the Ringer Fantasy Football Show. My name is Danny Heifers, and I'm joined live in person again in Los Angeles by Danny Kelly and Craig Korlbeck. We're still here. We're still here. Never left. Today it is power hour because every Wednesday we power rank something. And this week, we are power ranking the players nobody is talking about, AKA the players we probably haven't talked about enough ourselves, AKA the Stephen Glenbergs, because no one wants to be Stephen Glanzburg. Right?
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That's right. The Glanberg mvp. Yeah, the guys who deserve some love.
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You know, not sitting there eating tapioca pudding by themselves, you know.
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No, we've been talking about Jonathan Taylor too much. It's time to get into some other people.
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So we also went on Bill Simmons's podcast today and we did a giant draft of a bunch of different yesterday.
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From when people are listening.
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Oh, good point. Okay, so they already listen to Tuesday night, right? There you go. So it already. So. Well, then they've already listened to it and then they know already. So we are going to go through Power Hour. Just reminder our rankings. Fantasy football.inr.com Come on Thursdays. Update those Sundays emails ringer fantasy football gmail.com for trivia questions, fantasy courts, all that jazz emails for there, and just all the other things we ask about. With that said, we're going to go ahead and dive into, I think, before we have to do power ranking, unfortunately, we have to admit. Dk, I know you didn't want to talk about this one. I'm sorry. The Mariners lost in game seven in the alcs.
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Yeah.
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Did that make you feel good or bad?
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Bad.
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Okay.
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Made me feel bad.
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Explain.
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The Mariners are the only team in the Major League Baseball to never have made the World Series. So that made me feel bad because they almost did that. They were winning three to one late in the game. Gave up a 313 run home to Springer.
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Guy with one knee.
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Yeah. So that was brutal. Yeah, they're. They're bullpen kind of blew it there, so that was a bummer. But, yeah, overall, good season, really fun season. Reignited my love of the Mariners, truly. So I'm. I'm honestly just really excited for the next season.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's a good sign. You guys had a great season. You can go into next season hopeful, ready to go.
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There's a lot of lovable players on the team. Big dumper.
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Big dump. Julio, who hit a dinger in that game last night?
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Yeah, he did.
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Yeah.
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I'm Genuinely, like, really sorry.
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Thank you.
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It. I. It reminded me a lot of the Lions, who've never made a Super bowl, when they lost to the Niners and they. They, like, should have won. And Dan Campbell's. I don't know.
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It's just.
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It's. Well, the whole Dan Campbell thing is like, oh, we'll probably never have another chance to get that close, but you know that it's not necessary.
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As I started telling that story, I realized that was how it ended.
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Yeah, but. No, but that's what everyone's thinking. That's the quiet part, out loud, is, what if we never get back to that point? But, like, whatever. That's not something I'm worried about right now.
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What's nice is if the Dodgers just boat race Toronto, then you can say we would.
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Here's a way. Here's a, like, way to cope is. And I remember this because the Sonics made the finals back in the day, and that was really fun, but then they got just worked by the Bill. The Bulls. That was like the peak era of Jordan. They. I think they won the first three games, and then the Sonics managed to make it a little bit respectable by winning two, I think, but. Or maybe it was two or one. I can't remember. But my cope is. I have really good memories of this postseason run.
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Right.
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Maybe it's better that I'm not, you know, if they get. No, if they got swept in the World Series, that would fucking suck.
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The cope in the moment was funny. We were in the theater, and we had the Seahawks, Texans, Monday football game up side by side with the Mariners. And frankly, I didn't tell you this, but I tried to have Carlos record you for your sadness the same way my sadness was captured for the Giants Broncos.
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Yours is funnier, though.
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It is funnier when I'm upset than you. It's not when you're upset. It's just kind of sad.
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Life is a stage for Heifen. Like, he. He. He knew how to perform his main character.
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I was. Yeah, I wasn't that upset.
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TK Was just kind of, like, watching the game and they lost, and he was like, well, okay.
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Well, no, no. What happened was he immediately turned to the Seahawks game and was like, oh, why did they get that first down? Come on. Like, the actual immediate. Like, his mind ran to anything else.
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I took my anger out on the Seahawks.
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You immediately were like, can we switch the audio to the.
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I was like, football game. I don't need to watch the Blue J celebrate. Like, that's Fine.
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Eight seconds after. Who was the. I forget that. The two hitters. No, the one. The leadoff guy. Julio struck out on the ball in the dirt. Nine seconds later you were screaming at.
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Sam Darnold and I was like which.
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Let's just talk about that game. I know it's out of order. Seahawks beat the Texans. Looks great. JSN looked phenomenal.
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Super clean.
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Yeah.
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No problems in that game whatsoever. It didn't look terrible at times. The Seahawks turned the ball over four times. They were. They had like 10 plus penalties. It was a really ugly, ugly game.
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And yeah, I still never felt like they were going to lose.
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No, they dominated the game. Yeah, it did feel like they were trying to give it away about seven times.
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They had four turnovers in the final three quarters and that doesn't include a block kick.
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And then there was the whole debacle in the end zone when the got the fumble and the ball went into the end zone.
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And the guy ridiculously lucky for Houston.
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Crazy.
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Yeah.
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I mean so the game. I mean both the defenses are amazing. I said this on Bill show but I think that there are three teams that have a great defensive line and a great secondary and the Texans and Seahawks are two of them. But also the Texans defense was abominable. I'm sorry. The Texans offense was abominable and it's pathetic and but they're also 22 penalties in this game like every. It just wasn't just an ugly game. Went on forever.
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No one on the east coast was watching. It was. It got over at 1am Eastern. It's terrible.
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Darnold was determined. Oh yeah. Yeah. Starting at 10 o' clock Eastern. Honestly he didn't miss anything. Darnold was determined to let the Texans come back and he didn't.
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But overall tried, tried again and again. But the Texans refused.
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Were too incompetent.
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Kind of an ugly Monday night. It was. It was tough to watch because Texas Seahawks it was self inflicted wounds. And then the Bucks Lions game was like lines 124 to 9 and then like Mike Evans had one of the scarier. Like that was a brutal. He broke. So it seems like he broke his collarbone and after the season but got knocked out on the play too.
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Yeah.
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Which was just.
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He walked off the field with his eyes closed which I don't know if I've ever seen before.
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He was very clearly messed up.
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Woozy days it was like shoulder.
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Yeah.
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The Tyree Kill reaction to the injury but the exact opposite. Like Tyree Kill was all laughs and smiles. The Whole time with his leg and like Mike Evans was what you think it looks like.
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Yeah. So the Bucks looked. I mean, even outside of the Evans injury, the Bucks looked rattled the entire night. Baker couldn't get anything going. The Lions are blitzing the out of them and getting pressure. And the Lions continue outside of that Week 1 loss to the Packers. I mean, I can't think of a quicker reversal where since that week, the packers have looked incredibly mediocre and the Lions have looked like a fucking juggernaut in the nfc.
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I mean, do you remember we were talking about how critical it was that the Lions had lost all their coaching staff in the off season?
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Seven coaches.
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And that week one, it was like, oh God, this really does matter. And then, you know, obviously they've completely buried that storyline since we should probably.
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Say John Morton's name more. Yeah, no, I mean, who's the offensive coordinator for the line?
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His name is John Morton.
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Is John Morton of Morton Steakhouse. I don't believe that's right. But he's been. I mean, to be honest, if somebody just told me that Ben Johnson was still calling place for the Lions, I. I wouldn't have thought otherwise.
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Yeah, Craig, this is what John Morton looks like. Just so you know, he's got to goatee.
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Yeah.
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In this picture, he looks like an offensive football coach.
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He looks like a guru.
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Yeah.
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Which is what he is. But anyway, yeah, we should shout out John Morton and what he's doing and what Campbell is doing after. After a seven coach exodus. They look fantastic.
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I.
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And their defense is injured as hell too.
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Again.
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They're doing the same thing they did last year is insane. This is insane.
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Hold on, hold on, hold on. I just had a realization. The same way the Lions defense last year had 14 guys in the engine reserve and it was insane. And now they're all hurt. Again, we need to remember this next year for the Ravens. The Ravens don't have the level of season ending injuries the Lions had because they everyone on ir. But it's worth remembering that when one side of the ball is destroyed, which happens to team every year, the next year those players are all recovering from injury and therefore like more likely to get hurt. And I kind of think that's not necessarily obviously medically just saying that we.
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Don'T factor in year after the year after on defense.
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No, but like when it happens to everybody at the same time. Like next year we got to remember the Ravens defense. Like, oh, they're healthy this year. I'm like the team where everyone is rehabbing Right. And it. But that's the Lions this year where it's like, oh, how is that happening again? I'm like, it's related.
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Yeah.
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Like, you know what I mean?
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Totally.
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It's related to last year. So there's. Secondary is destroyed. I'm a little upset for the line super bowl hopes, but I kind of still think the Lions could be the one seed. But I just don't know. Like they're. They're out of cornerbacks earlier than I can remember a team being out. Like, there are teams that have been down to the dregs, but the Lions are. They are about to get to the halfway mark and I feel like are already like replenishing practice squad cornerbacks, like on their third try. You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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I also want to shout out before we do the Glansburg MVPs. This guy's not on this list. But because he's probably too famous and too good. But I do think he hasn't been discussed a whole lot. Is a Monroe St. Brown.
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Oh my God.
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Who is just like every year he's kind of like. Like Keenan Allen type production. But even a level above that where every year he's just a guy you should draft who's great. He's the wide receiver too. In fantasy, he's just a monster every single year. I. I think he be your pick in for the first round every year talking.
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We talked ourselves in circles of like reasons to not take him just fifth. And he probably could have just been the fifth pick.
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I think he is. Is the. The best combo of high ceiling high floor at wide receiver. Probably.
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Yeah. I totally agree. Okay, so we're going to get to power hour here. And again, Craig, will you just remind people what a Glansburg is?
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You know, the people who unfortunately we. You know, when you're in high school, middle school, there's the guy in the corner eating tapioca pudding alone. Sometimes you need to sit down and talk to them, say hello, get to know them a little bit. And that's a. There's 10 guys on this list today who right now are sitting alone in the corner. And you know what? They're doing great this year.
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Eating alone. Like they're Stephen fucking Glance. Yeah.
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So I. Clint, the real Stephen Glanzberg went on to be a lawyer. He's having a great career in life, by the way.
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That's like actually him in the movie. He went on to have a great Stephen.
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If you're listening like we. You can come on the show whenever he's very busy. We've contacted him.
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Yeah, he's an attorney. He's crushing it. He's the most successful and of anybody who went to that high school.
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It was funny because I remember going back and forth with him. It's from Superbad. And I remember going back and forth when we came up with this, like, years ago, and I was like. He was like, what time do you record? And we were like, I don't know.
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We said like, two o'.
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Clock. He's like, during the day. He's like, I'm a lawyer.
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And you're like, also, what am I supposed to talk about?
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No, he.
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They pay you guys to do that?
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Crazy.
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Is that a job?
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Anyway, podcast.
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So we should have him. He should be our. Our fantasy court correspondent.
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Now we're talking, actually.
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So we talk a lot about football. We're at four episodes a week. And yet there are still some guys like that are Glenn's works that we just haven't talked about enough. And sometimes you just look at the leaderboard and you're like, damn, yeah, that guy's really high. We haven't. And that's what this episode is. It's just giving a little love to players who are just playing great. And yeah, we're new Power Hour style. So we're going to. Every two minutes, you're going to hear this sound.
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Oh, it hits different live.
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Feel the bass.
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It's not quite the gong. But that also brings me some really nice.
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In the Spotify studio, they know audio here.
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Yeah. They got something going on.
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You can hear it here and here.
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Surround sound.
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Oh, is that what it's called? It's amazing.
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Oh, because you're. Yeah, that makes sense.
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Yeah.
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So I power rank them and I power rank them in terms of how little I think we've talked and thought about this player.
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Okay.
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That's good.
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And I didn't even really do it relative to how good they are.
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Okay.
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I just did it by, like, in my head, I sorted by. Have we really spoken about this guy on our show or even just in private?
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Yep.
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Okay. So you can move that guy back to where he was before then. Because we were talking before the show, I was like, he needs to be lower in this ranking. But we'll figure it out.
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It'll be all right.
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We'll figure it out.
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No, that one's gonna be last because you told me to put him last. Okay.
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If anybody has an issue, he's like, I can't order, I can't copy.
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And past time, it's Too much work. Yeah, it's fine.
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Yeah, fine.
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I'll do it right now.
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Command Z. No, I'm doing it right now.
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Fine. I'll just do the.
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No, it's gonna script. I should change my mind.
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It's too hard.
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Okay. Starting with number one. The number one guy. I just don't think we have talked about or thought about at all for months and months. Michael Pittman, the receiver for the Indianapolis who.
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It's funny for how much airtime the Colts have had. Jonathan Taylor, Daniel Jones, Tyler Warren, like, everyone's getting love. Shane Steichen. Michael Pittman quietly been amazing this year. No one's mentioned his name.
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I think we have talked Josh Downs and Alec Pierce more than Michael Pittman.
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AD Mitchell fumbled that ball at the goal line. He's got more air time than Quentin Nelson.
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Ber. We've talked about the Braden. I'm forgetting the right tackle's name.
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Br.
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We've talked about the right Braden Smith more than Michael Pittman. Michael Pittman was.
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I don't think I've mentioned his name once.
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Yeah, well, you don't listen to anything I say. But. But the right t. So Michael Pittman. It'd be funny if we went on a tangent with other players during Michael Pittman.
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But pit. You know who's funny?
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Yeah, I'm like, the Colts have been so good. Daniel Jones, man, Daniel Jones has been pretty good.
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Daniel Jones just o.
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There's Tony Nelson, you know. Oh, yeah.
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Michael Pittman was drafted outside the top.
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Looked good.
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Yeah. Oh, my God. He's like the second oldest running back.
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Shout out Nebraska. Yeah, he looked great.
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Funny if we ignored all 10, he's the.
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Amir Abdullah is the Josh Johnson of running backs.
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Yeah.
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Kenny Moore is playing forever.
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Kenny Moore's back at cornerback. He had a great tackle.
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Totally. Anyway, so who's next?
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Yeah, who's I talking about? Top 10 receiver. I don't remember who we even sang.
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Pittman might. There's a few other guys in this list that could qualify, but in terms of where you drafted him and how he's performing, might be one of the best picks in drafts.
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I think he was going very late in draft. He did not get drafted in the ring or draft.
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I have him.
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Or maybe it was the last round.
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Dude, I took a pizza. I took a last place punishment before Michael Pittman.
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Like, I took a pizza before he.
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I took a pizza before Michael Pittman. I had to. But yeah, but dude, he was like a 10th round. Some people got an 11th round. It was like, oh, Richardson Won't complete passes. I'm like, dude, the combination of the Colts and how they're playing, I get what points per drive. They're right there with the 07 patriots.
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Like Pittman is just drive their first in the century.
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That's crazy. And so yeah, Jones is tossing the ball to Pittman. It just. It's.
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He's the amazing of a very capable wide receiver. One in a good offense.
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This. We did talk about him before the season for the base fact that he was being drafted as a top 40 player last year outside the top 100 with when we're like, there's no reason for that.
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Yeah, he might have been in the players nobody is talking about before your draft episode.
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Yeah.
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But we're still not talking about him.
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I know number two on players. I just don't think we've talked about Glanceburg's this year. I running back Jalen Warren, the running back for the Steelers, who I think we have only talked about.
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He's been so good. He's been a little bit better in real life than in fantasy. He's been totally serviceable and startable in fantasy. He's the running back 16 in points per game. But has been so dependable. Missed that one game to injury when we were in Dublin that like last second, 6, 36, 30 in the morning.
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Which is the only time we've talked about him was when he missed the game.
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Yes. But the Steelers quietly have been able to run the ball a little bit. It started out bad. The Steelers are sixth in rushing success rate this year, which they haven't been higher than. They're 27th over the last five years. Like the story of the Steelers since Ben left is they can't fucking run.
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Arthur Smith has. Is doing a good job at football.
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Yeah, he is. And also Rodgers is. Rogers throws to his running backs a lot. Aaron Jones, like, he has a history of incorporating these guys. And Warren's just been good. He's one of those players. He's like a little bit of scatterboo in him where he's like kind of a maniac. He never goes down.
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Yeah, he's like twisting and turning and flying.
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He's like. He's like one of those guys who just like does everything at 110.
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Right.
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And yeah, he's. He's quietly a beloved stealer who's really good.
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It's funny when you said scatterboard, I was like, what? He boops his quarterback with his head? What are you talking about? But in what do I like Warren? I Think he's a good blocker. He's a good receiver and he can do everything tackles. And I think that he also, I mean he runs like, you know, he runs like an undrafted free agent. Like he runs like he does scraps his way in the NFL. I'm not. Eckler is the wrong comp. But like there isn't. There is. He does. Some guys.
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Yeah.
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The, the Jeff Stoutland thing that Jason Kelsey said in his retire retirement speech. Like hungry dogs run faster. Like yeah. Sometimes seventh round is undrafted guys Pacheco do have a thing where they just look like they're trying harder.
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He had a crazy like 60 yard run or 60 yards screen pass this year.
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Yeah.
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Was it. I can't remember early in the season, week two or three and it was one of the best plays I've seen all season. He basically bounced off like 15 guys and. And it was some 60 yard cats that almost scored.
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Yeah.
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I love Jalen Warren.
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Yeah, he's awesome.
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Yeah, he's. I. One of my biggest regrets of the preseason was I had him really high and I changed my mind because I was like no one was on him and I'm like I'm probably just wrong.
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And when he's healthy, they're playing him. Kenneth Gainwell is a very serviceable backup, but you can see that when Warren's healthy they are like he has the number one. And the rookie Caleb Johnson who they got in the third round is not in the mix.
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Number three. Guys we just have not talked about this season. Keenan Allen, the receiver for the Chargers.
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Keenan Allen is the eighth best wide receiver in fantasy.
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He was just like preposterous a free agent until late in the off season.
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I mean August 20th. He has to, he has to be the latest signed player to match up halfway through the season.
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Yeah, you might. You're probably right. He's fourth in the NFL and catches. He's six fourth in targets, sixth in catches. I mean he's. He's the best wide receiver on the Chargers.
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There's no way that's happened before. He just fourth the guy who signed his fourth in targets in the NFL. Not like a month, like two months into the season.
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Almost fourth in target, sixth in catches.
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Let me double check.
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Why does she were eight on the season.
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And again I think it flew under the radar because guys in their early 30s who were available for anyone to sign for like a year and 3 million and yeah, he signed August 6th.
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Okay.
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So it wasn't quite that late. But like that just doesn't impact and so I think it was fair. We moved Lad bacon down a little bit. But it did not occur to us that Keaton Allen would just be better than lad McConkey.
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No, I think that was. Yeah, that was part of the equation was, you know, when we're talking about Lad because he was like an early second round or mid second rounder. We were.
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We didn't believe in Quentin Johnson and C L. So no one's there. 100. Only Quint Johnson's really good.
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He was a lot of people's first wide receiver on their fantasy team.
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Lad's been really good, by the way, for the last, like four weeks.
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He's been fine.
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He's been fine. I mean, if you look at his points per game, it's solid.
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Yeah, solid is right.
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That's. He does. It's like Jaylen Waddle. He looks at the points per game, but I can tell he doesn't have shares in Lad.
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I have a lot of lag.
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He's been mostly disappointing. He's had a couple good weeks, but.
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The point being Keenan Allen, because he went back to Herbert, who he had like a sizable chunk of Herbert's career completions.
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And there's just a connection there. Yeah.
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The theory someone floated me was like, he kind of had gotten a staring match with the Chargers last year and they're like, fuck it. And they sent him to the Bears and he was like, fuck, I didn't want to do that. He came back.
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So it's a testament to Keenan and just like how savvy he is as a vet. And he's like. He is Herbert's third down guy. It's pretty remarkable that lad McConkey is like the. Basically right now, on a per game basis, the fourth best passing option on the Chargers.
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They're on to get. They have the Chargers, funnily enough, for a Greg Roman, Jim Harbaugh offense. No, no blocking, all receiving.
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Yeah.
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The tackles are decimated and they're over their. Yeah. Cup runneth over with the receiving.
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I love Keenan, though, man.
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Number four guys that we haven't talked enough about.
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I.
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We probably have talked to this guy, but he inspired the episode, so I put him high. Because Josh Jacobs, the running back for the packers, when DK brought him up the other day, this was like last week. It inspired this episode because we were like, yeah, wow. We don't. We've really talked about Josh Jacobs in a minute.
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So Jacobs, quietly is the RB4 on the season. He's third in the NFL and carries per game. So he's getting a crap ton of volume, which is always great. He's second only to Jonathan Taylor in golden goal rushes. So he is on a. Like, this is what you're looking for, a guy who gets a ton of volume and is getting all of the goal line stuff for his team. He's getting most of the snaps for this team. So, yeah, he's averaging 19 points per game in fantasy. And we don't really talk about him that much. He doesn't. Hasn't really done anything flashy this year at all. And that's kind of the story of the packers, actually. I think they don't do anything really that flashy, but he's just been really useful in fantasy, obviously. And he has no duds on the year. Like, his lowest scoring game was 9.9 points.
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He's exactly what was promised when you took him.
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Yeah.
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And then like, it's funny, Steven Ruiz, we're here in Los Angeles for doing core week. Like the entire ringer is here. And just we were talking about.
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To the.
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About with Stephen about the packers and we're saying that like, all the, the McVeigh Tree coaches want to pass the ball and all the Shanahantry coaches want to run the ball because we were talking about, like, why don't the packers, why aren't they blowing out the Cardinals, what's going on? And Steve and I, Steven says before, but it's so funny. He's like, Matt LaFleur just wants to impress all his friends and run the ball. And there really is like this peer pressure. Honestly, though, like, there's just deep.
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Because it's like you can run the ball. You're actually a good play caller.
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Yes. And it's like, it's like a man thing. It's like, yeah, like, but could you run the ball?
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Anybody can throw it.
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Anybody can throw. Can you run? And so, but Josh Jacobs will just. The Packer LaFleur packers offense will always just have comp week to week. They're always going to. They're always. They're never going to a bit of the run.
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He's going to have one of the better careers. That kind of. Nobody remembers Josh Jacobs.
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Yeah.
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You know what I mean? Yeah. 20 years from now, you'll look back and be like, man, Josh Jacobs is really good for a decade and was kind of never in any conversation.
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Not like he played for small teams like the Raiders and Packers have small fan bases.
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Totally. Yeah. He's. He's basically 80 yards and a touchdown or two every single week. Good in the receiving game.
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He's. Josh Jacobs is a lot like Joe Burrow. We're the same way. The only year of Joe Burrow's career that he. That I was. The only healthy season Joe Burrow ever had was the one where I was weird. He'd get hurt. The only remarkable season Josh Jacobs ever had was the one where I said he wouldn't do anything. Remarkable. Number five. This is a real glance for players we have not talked about enough this season. Craig Debo, Samuel receiver for Washington.
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I fell into Debo in a. I'm in a guillotine league with Bill and some people. Still alive, by the way. Seven weeks in Nice, but I kind of fell in. Debo was there. He was one of those guys who just kind of fell and nobody really was interested in him. I got to give credit to Heifords. You were on Debo this summer and he's been Great. Wide receiver, 13 in points per game. They. They're using him a lot. They got him for a fifth round pick. Debo and McLaren has been out for the last three or four weeks. But even with McLaren, Debo' just like using him a lot. He's a great fit with Kingsbury. They're using him all over.
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Slot manufacturer touches.
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This is the highest target share of his career. I mean, this guy's 30 years old and they're using him a ton. And he's just been rock solid.
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He's.
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He's clutch. He delivers in every game. He missed last week with a heel injury. But Debo has just been kind of surprisingly rock solid and just like a. Something that you can depend on every week in your lineup. He's been incredible.
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How. You know, my deep knowledge of football just really inspired me to think, you know what? I don't care about his yards per route run and efficiency dropping. If you don't mention that he had pneumonia.
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Yeah, right.
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And he was like, not it either. He had other injuries, too. It was like on top of that.
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He had pneumonia and he wasn't fat. He was AI fat, right?
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Yeah. Yeah. That's a big difference. First casualty thing, I really.
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Yeah. AI fat.
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He's been. He's been. I think one of the stories.
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F a I t fiat. That's F I a t. What did you say? F a I t like fat. AI. It's bad either way.
A
No, you've done better.
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Yeah, I know. But anyway. Yeah. Shouts out to you for the Debo call because I was not a believer. I thought his. His style of play, his body like he relies on physicality. I mean he's like another scatter boo Jalen Warren like just barrels into people.
C
Yeah.
B
And he still looks great.
A
Contract here, contract here. And you're like, even if people were like yeah, he's at a ship contract here. Like he's, you know, he's, this is the last time he's gonna, this is the last big payment that he has in his future is this coming off season. So usually we go, oh look at.
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That, look at that.
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Number six players we have not talked about that much actually. No, first I gotta do an ad. First we're doing just harsh, harsh pivot there. Ringer Fantasy Football Shows Brought to you by FanDuel. Thursday Night Football continues to deliver and FanDuel's keeping the energy up with their $2 million Thursday Night Football jackpot. Place and anytime touchdown score bet using your profit boost. If your player scores the first or last touchdown of the game, you'll earn a share of $2 million in bonus bets. Head to FanDuel.com Ringer Fantasy to download the app and get started. FanDuel, an official sportsbook partner of the NFL, must be 21 plus and present in select states or 18 plus in present D.C. kentucky or Wyoming. Opt in must apply profit boost token on select market price pool to be split equally among all eligible participants who made the correct first or last TD pick bonus issued as non withdrawable bonus bets which expire 21 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms@sportsbook.fanduel.com gambling problem. Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit rg-help.com call 1-888-789-7777 or visit cc pg.org chat in Connecticut. Okay, number six players we have not talked enough about, especially I mean coming off a by my God, James Cook, running back for the Bills. Another guy that was like just exactly as promised. You're like, oh yeah, can't score 16 touchdowns again. And well, he's probably going to.
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My rule is if anybody scores more than 15 touchdowns in a season, they will do it again the next 100%.
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Great rule. He is on pace. If my math is correct, he's on pace to rush for 1500 yards and 14 touchdowns this year. Last year he, he rushed for just over a thousand yards and 18 touchdowns. So I think that he's not going.
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To get to 16. Doesn't even matter.
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The theory on him in the off season was there's no way he has this many touchdowns again because he's small, I guess. And because Josh Allen steals a lot of rushing touchdowns, but just hasn't happened. He's a really elusive, slippery runner, explosive runner in a really good offense with a great quarterback. It's going to score a lot of points in that offense. And so through six games, he's averaging over 16 points a game. He is the RB8 on the season. So he's dramatically outplaying his draft slot, which was re 13. It's for fourth in the NFL and rushing yards, fifth in the NFL and rushing TDs. And he's getting almost 20 touches a game.
A
It was probably really easy to get like, Jackson, Smith and Jigba in the third round and then like James Cook.
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In the fourth round.
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And you're probably. I was gonna say cooking, but I actually stopped myself before I did.
C
What restraint.
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Great job.
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But yeah, he. I think he's one of those running backs that when you. When he touches the football, it's almost always like some great play or like explosive play. It feels like it. And we don't talk about him very often.
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He's in the Josh Jacobs range of. He's not in the elite tier, but he's very, very good and he'll probably end up having a fantastic career. That is not talked about a lot.
C
Yeah.
B
He also kind of suffers from little brother syndrome, where, like me, when I went into high school, my brother was four and a half years ahead of me. So he left senior year of high school as I entered freshman year. And it was always like, oh, are you Scott's little.
A
Yeah. You're Scott's brother? Yeah.
B
100, you know.
A
Yeah.
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He never got the. The shine he deserved, much like me.
A
That's true. But now people are like, oh, you're Craig's brother. Scott's getting there.
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Yeah, we looked the same. He was taller than me. You know, Dalvin had the great stat.
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That's great. My brother. I'm taller than my brother, which is great.
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I certainly wasn't going into high school. I was tiny. My brother was like 511 as a freshman high school, and I was 5 2.
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Do you remember the first. Did you ever beat your brother in a fight?
B
No.
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Oh, well, you haven't lived to. You. You have to try.
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I'm not sure I ever will. My brother is a good inch taller than me and stronger than me.
A
You haven't. You never beat your brother fight?
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No. Again, like when we lived together, like when he went to college, he was 18, I was 14, and I was legitimately 5 2. And I mean, you know, we're not like, fighting in our 30s now, so.
A
Well, if Kim scattered, I haven't had a ton. Good.
B
Maybe this Thanksgiving I'll get him fired.
C
Out and start a fight.
B
Yeah. It's funny because would you say to me, pass the sweet potatoes?
C
I think you should.
B
Yeah, maybe I will.
C
Yeah.
A
You actually have to now, because Scott's gonna listen to this and, like, he's gonna be ready. So if you're not ready, he's gonna be ready. Come for the king. Best not miss.
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Yeah. Now, see, he's actually starting now. He's getting older. So old that, like, he has a bad back now, so starts going the other way.
C
Kick him in the kidneys.
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Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
When he's not looking.
B
Yeah. Okay, good to know.
A
Email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com about. If you remember, like, beating your older brother in a fight or, like, younger brother. Just sibling fights. Kim. Scatter.
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Boo.
A
Anytime anyone ever asks him some version of why are you like this? He's like, dude, all I wanted was to beat the out of my brother.
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Yeah.
A
And it was like, bullying is why he's like that.
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Yeah. I had to use my words.
C
Yeah.
B
I didn't have a brother. So you beat up your sisters?
C
No, did not.
B
Did they beat up you?
C
No. Okay.
B
Definitely not very friendly family.
C
Yeah.
A
The next guy here, Kyron Williams, the running back from the Rams. That's a real glance.
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His whole career is a glance.
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He's a human. Yeah, he really is. Like, literally just from the draft, what is it? Fifth rounder. And every year people have tried it.
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Everyone's trying to get him benched so hard.
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My favorite.
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Yeah, he might be.
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Desperately want him to get benched.
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He might be the best running back your dad can't name.
A
That's a great one.
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You know what I mean?
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Yes. That's really great.
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In the Rams, it's like they know Josh Jacobs, James Cook, even a little bit, but it's like nobody knows Kyren Williams. What's his name, something. Williams.
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Williams.
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He's. Yeah, he's pretty good.
A
He's also my favorite genre of, like, fantasy managers trying to replace Sean McVay's preferred option. And they're like, well, you know, I know Sean McVay trusts that guy, but they took Jar Cruise Hunter in the Shut the fuck up, so. But Kyron Williams, admittedly nowhere near the top guys in points per game. He's like 13 points per game, which is like almost half of what Jonathan Taylor McCaffrey have. But he's a top 10 running back. But it's not like he's been a difference maker. But having said that I kind of think I would trade for Kyle Williams. I think he's a huge buy low because he's there. He's the starter. The Rams offense is a wagon but they have. This is insane. The Rams have 17 passing touchdowns and four rushing touchdowns. So that's over.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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81% on buy too.
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So it. You could probably trade for him right now because somebody doesn't want to have to deal with and you're taking a little bit of a loss there. But if you think you can get a long term value on that it's.
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Pretty unsustainable for the rams to have 80% of their they did it once in the last like 5 years but realistically it's probably a 60 40, 55 like a 6040 split even would he. You might have. It's like this happened last year I.
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Believe off the top of my head. And it's funny because I actually looked this up. I think it was 2115 last year. 21 touchdowns. Yeah. Passing 15 rush.
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Obviously the offense is better this year with I just came up with that.
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Random but no, I think you're actually.
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Right and like they try look they're also. It's part of its intentional to try and get Devonte the ball in the red zone. But also I just. Kyron could very easily have six touchdowns the rest of the season with the same yardage. And so I think it's huge by low. And another thing I want to remember for next year, running backs who get contract extensions in August should we have to move up the board. James Cook, Kyron Williams when there's. We kind of are like oh, James Cook got extended. And we're like doesn't mean anything. We factored it in. You have to factor it in.
C
Like remember the time when Sean McVeigh facing pressure from the millions and millions of fantasy players started playing Blake Corum more and then he fumbled and then we haven't. He's gone now.
A
Well I mean what's his fault? Yeah, I'm just like when Kyron and James Cook got contract extensions, you guys know what I'm saying where I'm like.
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Yeah, it's a very tangible vote of confidence.
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It's like what we see, it's the opposite of Travan Henderson with Mike Vrabel. The coaches are telling us what they think. We just have to listen.
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And I regret not moving James Cook and Kyron up like a full round almost. And Kyron Maybe not Kyron, but James Cook. We could have moved up like a full round after that extension and it would have still been a deal. Is the point I'm trying to make. Y Because like it's everything else we want who's second quarterback, offense, staff, Rams. We the back Stafford stuff but even then we should have ignored it.
B
But who's second?
C
What who's second on the Bills in Russia fantasy points behind James Cook.
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I mean running back of all Ray Davis.
A
Oh dude. Ray.
C
Yeah. You don't know. That's the point.
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Ray Davis is playing.
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Ray Davis will get like a. I think he had a garbage or like a random spelling touchdown number eight players.
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We'Re not talking about enough. This is where I'm like we've read these guys. This is where we talked about these guys but probably not enough relative to how big they are. So Dak Prescott, the quarterback for the Cowboys who we've talked about but really is frankly the. The. The gift that keeps giving to fantasy.
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I think funnily enough Patrick Mahomes is overshadowing Dak Prescott this year as the non running. I guess Mahomes is running but he's not really thought of as a running quarterback. The outside the top four guys right. Like before the season and in drafts it was Lamar, Josh, Jane Daniels and Hertz. Hertz. And those were the big guys. If you don't have any of those guys, if you don't get those guys, wait until later. I think Dak was one of those quarterbacks where you could definitely take him. I mean he went in the 88th overall according to ADP. So he's like seventh, eighth, ninth round. You can definitely wait on a quarterback. And he right now is a QB5. He's averaging 21 points per game. Anytime you're over 20 points per game that's going to be one of the elite seasons for quarterback. And he has only one game in week one when he averaged when he had less than 12 points. Otherwise 22, 12, 31, 28, 22 and 23. I mean this is. And all.
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Most of those are without CD Lamb and the other.
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Right.
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The key point to me is that is a pass it to the Italians offense. It's predictable fantasy. It's like other guys. Yeah. Like Dak has leaves league completions. He doesn't necessarily lead the league in yards like Justin Herbert does. But the difference is like there are a lot of weeks where maybe Justin Herbert and the Chargers weren't playing Quentin Johnson. We got these points for the most part. The all the yardage is going to Jake Ferguson, George Pickens and CD Lamb and then all the rushing is going to Javante Williams and you. All those guys, the fantasy points they've earned has been in lineups that people were starting and like almost like real fantasy points like dax. The percentage of Dax efficiency and just total raw output that has been in line lineups is so much higher than.
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Like any other 10 every year. We talked about this on the Bill's pod, but it's like you got to find the offense that's going to break out the 2023 Texans. You got to try to identify what it is. This year it's the Colts and it's.
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The credit to you. You said this in August as well. We're just looking at us being nice to each other. You said this though, that like the Bengals are like the expensive version and.
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Off brand Bengals for the Cowboys this.
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Year they absolutely are too because their defense sucks and their offense is very pass heavy. Dax is averaging 37 pass he attempts a game.
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Yeah, the defense gives up 400 yards a game for Dallas, so they literally.
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Have to throw everything. It's like a pressure cooker for fantasy number nine players.
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We're not talking about enough.
C
All right.
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I know it's Glansburg. I'm breaking the rules. Christian McCaffrey, the running back for the NERS. I know it's like for what he's.
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Doing, we're not talking about.
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That's the thing. Yeah, I, I know it's like Christian McCaffrey, people talk about him but like not really. Like all we've, we talked about Jonathan Taylor, we talk about, you know, all these guys. Christian McCaffrey has like seven fewer points than Jonathan Taylor and half PPR and in full PPR. Jonathan Taylor's not the number one running back. Christian McCaffrey is the number one running back in full PPR. Like plenty of people play a full point perception. I don't think people would have just been like, oh yeah, McCaffrey's number one. But he is in PPR and again he is. When McCaffrey had Offensive Player of the Year, he had like 560 receiving yards, which was second on the whole season among running backs when he was offensive player of the year. He's going to pass that mark maybe this week. Like McCaffrey is on pace to have 1000 plus receiving yards, like maybe 1100. And so what he. The rushing obviously in San Francisco is not as good this season for variety of reasons, but the role McCaffrey has in the passing game is quite literally as big as anyone we've seen in the 21st century. Like even like more than. He's more than Marshall Falk. I'm like the Rams greatest show in turf Rams.
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The if you only took McCaffrey's receiving production this year in half PVR. He is the wide receiver seven dude. So he's truly. He's a. Like he's a top 12. So wide receiver one plus. I don't know what he is in rushing. He's probably a top 12.
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Rushing. He's like basically Camaro.
A
Yeah, he's good, dude.
B
He is third in Camara.
A
Now here are the NFL catch leaders.
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Jamar Chase, he's 11th in rushing points.
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Yeah, dude. The receivers, the leading players in catches the Susan or Jamar chase. Puka. Christian McCaffrey. The leaders in receiving yards are Jackson, Smith and Jigba. Jamar Chase, Puka Nukua, George Pickens, Amon Ross, St. Brown, Justin Jefferson and Mecca Buka. And then Christian McCaffrey, who has 12 fewer yards than Justin Jefferson.
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Yeah, the year 2023 was the year McCaffrey went crazy on the Niners. It was like his big running back one overall season. Whatever he is outscoring that year right now.
C
Yeah, I mean the big. The big talking point with him always was it's like getting two players in one starting spot. He's literally an RB1 and a wide receiver one in one roster spot like that. If you have Christian McCaffrey, you're probably in the top three in your league.
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It's the thing we said before the season. Every week he plays, he'll be like a top two or three running back and then we will just see how many games he plays. And it's still that way.
C
Knock on wood.
A
That was my capitulation. I figured if I didn't say that, that would be.
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You've been listening to the Taylor Swift album. Nice.
C
Yeah, I get that. I understood that reference.
A
Number 10 people. We haven't talked this person. We've talked about the most probably in this list recently. But DeAndre Swift, the running back for the Bears, we've talked about him, but he's playing well.
B
We've talked about how he looks good, but I feel like we haven't talked about his fantasy production. RB11.
C
Totally.
B
I mean, he's just like a top 12 guy this year. It's a good example of just what a good run scheme can do it. It is kind of like that. You could slide anybody in rule a little bit. But I mean when looking for that offense that was going to, you know, you want to find those few offenses that take off every year. A lot of people highlighted the Bears. The only person that people kind of were not into in that particular Swift. Yeah, it was like DJ Moore, Roman Dunes, Colston Loveland. Yeah. Manung guy. All these other running backs that could out overtake him. And DeAndre Swift, the man Ben Johnson got rid of theoretically in Detroit, has been fucking great.
C
And I think he was one of my sleepers, by the way.
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Well, we were wondering like who's going to become the great takes exposed. Thank you. Yeah, Craig wants to make a great takes. No, we have to make this today or else the show's going to go up and it's going to be too late. We have to.
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Well, it's already up because I said it on Bill's pod. But yeah, somebody should make it.
A
Well, but no, but we should make it right now before Bill show goes up. You should just make the account right now.
B
Oh, I see. Because we're living in this like limbo time right now.
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Just go, go get it right now.
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Great takes exposed. Austin, can you check great takes exposed.
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Get that on everything. Get that on every platform. Thank you, Austin.
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Good takes exposed.
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Imagine if that just like good takes exposed.
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Will also work fine takes.
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Yeah, whatever you think good or good or great.
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But plat. It's like Dazn when they just got the dazn. We need it across everything acceptable takes. It's like the zone they named it because it was like 180 countries it was available.
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Well, like I think we need it on every platform. Is it bad takes exposure Cold exposed, Hot takes. No, it can't be hot takes. It's got to be good takes.
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Yeah.
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Good or great.
A
Yeah, it's not hot takes.
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Imagine if that just like that account in like a year as like 10 million followers.
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We don't do the show anymore.
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And the idea is the first good take exposed. Oh, was having the idea to make the account.
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That'll be good. That could be the last thing we post in the account.
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Last take before we all die.
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Yeah. Yeah.
C
What are we talking about?
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I don't know.
C
Yeah, that's the last thing we post on the account ever anyway. When we ascend to the comet.
B
We ascend to the comet. What are you talking about?
C
Kevin's gate or whatever, you know.
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All right, last guy.
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We're too tired to even jump on that one.
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Last guy here.
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The Dallas Goddard, the Titan for the Eagles. Which dk. I had much Higher because we haven't talked about him. DK panicked.
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I thought that we were. I thought that the order was going to be like, by the most impactful. But yeah, you know, he's been really solid for what we were expecting.
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Pretty good.
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We haven't blamed him enough for when A.J. brown and Devontae Smith have been like, we want the ball. But it's like, well, they're kind of throwing a Dallas guy.
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It's all Dallas Goddard.
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I mean, ironically, Dallas Goddard's worst game was this last one, when Smith and A.J. brown went completely bonkers. But overall, Dallas Goddard, who's drafted as the tight end 16, 135th overall. So basically an afterthought in fantasy, is now the tight end. 4 on the season in points per game, 11.6 points per game. He has a 19 target rate, which is actually pretty solid for a tight end. Six best in the, in the league. He's averaging six targets a game. He's pretty consistent.
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He's just like rock solid. Keenan Allen, if he were a tight end, just like, we'll just deliver for you every single week.
C
And it's like one of those tight ends you feel good about plugging into your lineup. And that's like, hard to find the other way other than like the like.
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The least sexy pick you could have made.
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That is working out all this shit becomes hindsight. But I wish there were elements of this problem. And again, he has five touchdowns this season, and that's already tied his career high. And I think part of that some level, some things aren't predictable, but I do, in retrospect, it's like, oh, yeah, the Eagles offense. One of the reasons we joke so much about Nick Sirianni, like, what does he do here? Is that they won the super last year in part because they didn't let him hire the coordinators. Like, Vic Fangio was poached by the front office. They wanted him on defense. And then Kellen Moore was kind of hired. Howie Roseman was like, you can't pick these guys anymore. And so Kellen Moore came in. But really the Goddard years where Goddard got the ball was when Nick Sirianni's offense was really kind of the offense. And so now Kevin Petullo's the offensive coordinator, but he's Nick Sirianni's guy. So in a way, in retrospect, I'm like, fuck, I wish I'd put that together. But, you know, it was also hard to envision A.J. brown, like, actually having like, no involvement in the offense very early On.
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So I guess the question with Goddard is, though, what is going to be the natural equilibrium for this offense? Or is it going to be like they're just now, A.J. brown and Dante Smith are going to go bonkers every week? Or is it more likely going to be the other Spectrum where Goddard is the number one receiver on the team? Well, probably somewhere in the middle.
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More important to get. We have an update on the account names for Good takes Exposed.
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Austin says Good takes Exposure exposed to too many characters. What?
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So just do Good take. Can we just Good take or Good takes expose or Good take Exposed.
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Wow.
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It has to be 15 characters.
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We just do Good take Exposed.
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Good take Exposed.
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Yeah.
A
Or just Good takes exposed with no D because that way as people type it in, it'll come up. Right?
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Good takes exp.
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I think just kill the D. No.
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No, no, you can't do that. Good takes expose.
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But like, as you're typing it in, it'll be fine.
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No, it's got to be Good take Exposed.
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Good take.
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Probably Good take The Freezing Cold Takes username.
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Actually taking Good take Expose.
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Actually.
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Damn it.
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It's actually Old takes Exposed is the Freezing cold takes thing.
B
Oh. The name of the account is Freezing cold takes with the actual handle Old takes exposed. Old takes exposed.
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Should we do new takes exposed?
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Do you think this is going to make it to their account when we don't get the handle?
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I'm annoyed that they're going to post.
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The video and we're failing to get.
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It and we can't do Great takes exposed because that's too many characters.
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Great.
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What about Rad Takes Exposed?
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Damn it, that was brutal.
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Sad takes exposed. Just the saddest take. Just go to Heifetz's handle.
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Rad takes Exposed is available.
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Yeah, now we're talking.
B
That'll never take off.
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But again, Freezing Cold takes take off.
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But you're right. If we just name the. That's the handle Great takes Exposed. But then the actual handles like whatever.
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And then rad is just like if, you know, you know.
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Yeah, that's not bad.
C
What about God Takes Exposed? Like God tier?
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I don't. I think for God has other. I think God has other contexts.
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Does it? Oh, yeah, that's true. It does.
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I mean, the handle could just be Good takes Great takes.
A
Yeah, that's probably. I mean, someone probably grabbed that.
B
Yeah, God takes Expose is available. Wow. All right, we'll circle back.
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Why don't we. We have to decide this soon, though. The bill shows going up. Rad takes exposed. Should we just get lock in. Rad takes exposed, though.
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I mean, you know how I. You know what?
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I think good takes is huge. Wait, we have good takes.
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Is.
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Is always take it right.
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Is just available.
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Good takes is available.
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Do it. That's insane, dude. There's no way he's wrong. There's no way someone just does.
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Hold on, hold on. Let's see. Let's see. Good takes.
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There's no way good takes is available.
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So we could call the account. The title could be Great Takes exposed, and the handle is just good takes. Yeah, that's. I mean, there's no.
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There's no way.
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We all quit our jobs tomorrow, adamant.
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That it doesn't exist.
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Dude, that's a pretty wild one to not exist. I'm going. Hold on. I'm. I'm. I'm flanking to Instagram.
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He doesn't trust Austin's research right now.
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You guys. You guys think it's available?
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I trust what Austin's.
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I don't think that's what he meant with the text.
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I don't care enough to.
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He says good takes is huge. I think we take it.
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Yeah.
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To me, that means. Oh, it's not available. You led us astray.
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You misread his text.
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Good. He said, I think we're taking good takes. There's a green. There's a green dot next to good takes.
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This is. Oh, you did read his text properly. Okay, okay. Never mind. You did. You did.
B
Why was there a green Seinfeld?
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There was a green check.
B
Yeah.
A
You all right? You did read the text properly.
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That's fair.
A
Okay, well, we'll have to. We'll have to figure this out. Emails. Actually, no, don't. We'll have to do this before you hear it.
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That was power hour. Are we going to do ringer fantasy league update?
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Yeah, Ringer Fantasy football league update.
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So DK narrowly beat me. So now the top three teams are tied. It's Sal, it's High Fitz, and it's dk. All five and two.
C
All right, all right. Take Sal down.
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Yes. Also in south team is great. South team is a wagon. In more important news, Bill is no longer in last.
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Oh, who is?
B
Van.
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Okay, not as funny.
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No. Bill's much funnier. When Bill was climbed into.
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Remember what Van. Van chose as his punishment?
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Oh, yeah. People get to hack his phone and tweet whatever they want on it. Oh, my God.
C
They get to rage.
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That's why he's. He's tanking.
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He's tanking.
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So for those who don't know tanking for tweets.
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The wrinkle we had, which I. The. The pyop. The Pick youk on Punishment. That's pretty funny.
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Let's get that handle.
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Lock it down. So the wrinkle we came up with, which I think has legs, is the pick your own punishment. Where. Because it's like every league, it's better with the punishment, but then no one else agree. It's hard to get 10 or 12 people to agree on stuff. And what you will do. If you're young, it doesn't matter age either. If you're younger, people want to do crazy shit. If you're older, people are like, I'm not fucking doing this shit. So you can't get. So then you agree and you don't do nothing. You can't enforce it. It's hard. But during the draft, we added a. We had 18 team rosters. We added a 19th round or something. Or 17 team rosters. We added an 18th round and you had to. You can draft at any point your punishment. And we had like 15 punishments to pick from. And the rule was if you drafted someone twice by. Like, if you drafted someone who'd been taken, you had to take a punishment. So I actually randomly drafted a punishment first because I actually. You know what? I was hosting the goddamn stream and I lost track of. I don't know who it was.
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No one cares. No one cares.
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Well, I could see in advance you guys were gonna make fun of me.
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Yeah, I was trying to get ahead of it. Yeah, you screwed. Had to take a punishment early.
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The point is, the punishments are incredible. So if Bill comes in last, he has to wear a jersey of our choosing in a show. And then, yes, a van has.
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It's not of our choosing. It's of the winner's choosing.
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Winner. We're a committee. But the winner is the executive chairman of the committee.
B
Yeah, that's right. But, yeah, Van Pretty loses. The winner gets to tweet whatever he wants off of the loser's account. I think. I don't know, five times or in a year.
C
Once a week.
A
It's once a week at the same time for a month.
B
Yeah. And. And Van literally wants that. He went out of his way to.
A
Trash, but I actually think that one for Van, it should be normal. It's Magic Johnson. Because Vince is socialist. So crazy that we almost have to be, like, really normal. And people be like, are you all right?
B
Yeah. Like, saw one battle after another. Liked it. That's it.
C
Solid movie.
A
Congratulations to the Los Angeles Dodgers on winning the 2025.
B
I think Shohei Otani is one of the best baseball players we've seen in.
C
A long time in a while.
B
Oh, my God. I think LeBron James is a hall of famer.
C
Whoa.
A
Yeah. So that's the fantasy update. Yeah.
B
Do we have any fantasy courts?
A
We have fantasy court. I have one here. I mostly.
B
Hold on, wait.
A
Oh, we have the job.
C
Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.
A
I don't really want to be handcuffed.
B
The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched.
C
Craig.
A
Like the definition of an object.
B
I get called to the stand. The definition.
C
Okay, sir, would you please define what an object.
B
Dude, let's bring in an expert here. We're calling in Craig. That was the object expert.
C
Yeah. So this court is from Ben, Benny, Bone Benjamin. He.
A
Benji, breakfast is a Montreal bagel with smoked salmon, cream cheese, and capers with the coffee. Love that, but I don't really know what a Montreal bagel is.
B
I don't either.
C
Capers on a bagel.
A
Well, yeah, it's like salmon, cream cheese. Okay. That's like. He does. It's like bacon, egg and cheese thing. It's also a New York thing.
C
It's like a. Yeah, I didn't know.
A
Type of breakfast.
C
I didn't know that.
B
Yeah.
A
When he said bacon again, cheese. Hold the bacon.
C
Smaller, thinner, sweeter, and denser. That's what they said. And also a larger hole. Glad I didn't say it. That order.
B
Christ. It sounds like.
A
Look at this.
C
Craig with a larger hole.
A
Turn it up. Is there a picture?
C
Let's see.
A
Let me see.
B
It kind of feels like they tried to make a bagel and sweats up and then just kind of stuck with it.
C
It's like basically a gross looking bagel.
B
Yeah, like, oh, we screwed this one up. What if we turn this into a business?
A
We don't have to make them. Right.
C
They're like shriveled.
B
Gross. We can hire the worst chefs around and it doesn't matter.
C
We got to give this thing a name.
B
Okay.
A
Well, yeah, they look.
C
They look like onion rings.
A
This guy's going to eat his breakfast tomorrow. Think about Danny Kelly's holes.
B
Everything's going to fall in the middle. The topics.
C
That looks gross.
A
I don't want that loose now.
B
I got to try. We got to try one.
C
Yeah. Okay. Anyway. With a larger hole. Man.
B
Bagel. All right, Wait, so what did he put on it? Salmon capers.
A
Yeah, Cream cheese.
B
Cream cheese sounds good.
A
Oh, my God. Okay.
B
What do we?
C
Yeah, we're doing.
B
What's his issue? Yeah, yeah. What's going on?
A
Should I just do another ad?
B
We're in the middle of fantasy.
A
I know. I forgot one.
B
And we'll do it after. We'll do it after telling.
C
How can you keep forgetting these? They're like, right here.
A
It's hard.
C
You got to.
B
This case is brought to you by. No, let's finish Fantasy Core and then we'll do it. Yeah, it's fine.
A
It's fine. Okay. So anyway, Ben, Ben, Ben. I'm the commissioner of. Of my league, and I took your idea and I implemented a punishment draft. Best fantasy advice you collectively you've ever given. I agree. Top advice ever is the Misty Mountains. Puts screaming babies to calm down. And then this one is their.
B
And by the way, we didn't come up with that. We got an email. Yeah.
A
Shout out God. Not your brother who beat you up. But a different.
C
About what?
A
Who suggested.
B
Yeah, we didn't get someone's idea.
C
The punish.
A
Best email. Top 10 email we've ever gotten. So Ben says they implemented it. We all submitted ID punishment ideas. And Ben says, I picked the punishment Hot Ones audition tape.
B
Oh, nice.
A
But we never fleshed out what that actually meant. And so he says, I finished top four most years. There's a couple people who do the bare minimum set their lives. Never thought I had to do it. Flash forward. Kind of tied for last place, losing again. Group chat starting to be like, what is the Hot Ones audition tape? One friend says I actually have to buy all the hot. Hot sauces from the show, eat them on camera. Somebody else says I need to answer a question from each of the other members and pretend like I'm on the show. There's also debate over whether I need to address the tape to Sean Evans and whether I have to send it to him. I'm the commissioner, so I've decided to defer to you three on what I should do because it's one your idea and also, well, Scott's idea, but also your advice that got me into this message. So I have an immediate take on what I think this is, but I'll go last.
B
I think. Yeah, to me, it's like all three of those things combined. He has to eat all 10 wings that are covered in the various hot sauces. The nine other guys in the league can ask him a question that he has to answer with each wing, and then he has to send it to Sean Evans.
A
I think the caveat, I would say, is that buying the Hot Sauces is quite expensive. And if the buy in for this league is $10, there's a chance the hot sauces are collectively more than the pot.
B
Okay, okay.
A
So if it's like a $10 buy in, I think that he has to just do. He does have to make a video and do Hot Ones with his friend pretending to be Sean.
B
It is expensive. It's like 120 bucks. If the rest of the league wants to pay for this, then that's.
A
I think he has to do a Hot Ones video with like pretending his friend Sean Evans. And he has to do it and they have to send it to Hot Ones. But if the league wants to pitch in to get the sauces, they can do that. But he can just have really hot sauce.
B
Yeah, that's fine. But one bottle. He needs to have a couple of really hot. You know what?
C
Yes.
B
I would say if anything, he just has to pur. He can use like cholula or tobacco on a bunch of them. He has to buy Da Bomb.
A
No. Oh, yeah.
B
He has to buy or maybe Da.
A
Bomb and all of them. Because to be honest, the punishment for fantasies. Oh, you have to like fucking eat chicken wings that aren't hot. Sounds kind of sick.
B
Well, the whole point is that you lead up to. It can't be 10 to bombs.
A
That's a good point.
B
But one of them has to be I agree.
A
Or just like.
B
Which I have had. And it is horribly hot. Painfully.
A
When did you have to bomb?
B
It was in. Me and Liz's brothers in law got it.
A
Did I ever tell you Jackie had. Jackie, like, just is not affected by spice. We were in this like shot. We were watching Hot Ones and Jackie's like, I could do that. And my friends like made fun of her and she was like, bad.
B
She tried to bomb us.
A
And the next day, well, not just the bomb, but like, so we were in.
B
You said don't do like a ghost pepper. It was.
A
But it's up there at the bottom. It's like Charleston. There's like this hot sauce shop. Like a library for sauces. Like, I didn't know stores could have.
B
Oh yeah, there's one of those thousand at the Grove here.
A
Literally thousands. And so. Oh, it's bigger than the one the Grove. Like double. Maybe like double the size.
B
Fuck the Grove.
A
Fuck the Grove. No, no, it's good. It's just not like it's bigger. Like there's a lot of sauces. So she tries the guy sampling it and just, I don't know, doesn't Affect.
C
I don't have an opinion on the.
A
Doesn't affect her.
C
Okay.
A
Doesn't affect her. So the guy's like, all right. And you can tell the guy's kind of like, mad that it's not affecting her. So he's like. Pulls out a waiver, and he's like, I got one in the safe. And there's a fucking safe behind the counter. And they have to sign to kill Jackie. And they open a safe and they pull this thing out and they just drop her. It out of this, like, little bottle in a sink. Jesus.
C
It's like a tincture.
A
And she tries it. They literally had her son or waiver, and she tries it and just. It's just like, yeah, I got nothing. And the guy's like, lost his mind.
C
Wow.
B
So did she.
C
She's like.
B
Did she just have, like, a low sense of taste in general?
A
No, she's a really good cook. She's a good. No, I just. She just isn't. I don't know.
B
Interesting.
C
Wow. That's like. They should study that.
B
One time, my buddy and I, the best man in my wedding, Chris, we. We ate ghost pepper chocolate.
C
Oh.
B
And it was the hottest, most miserable day of my life. Why? Great. Great answer. Last episode, we just talked about how all men want to do is, like, hit each other in the nuts.
A
That's a good point. Yeah.
B
Why? I was 22. I don't know, guessing. Why are boobs cool? It was so high that Chris called his parents. He didn't know why. He just called his parents. He was in so much pain. Instinctively called his parents. That's great.
A
Oh, my God.
B
And then we, of course, we did not prepare. Check the fridge. Only almond milk. Disaster.
C
Christ. That's actually okay. That. That. I'm asking why. Why did you not prepare for this?
A
I think the same answer. 22.
B
Why did you.
A
So I also just wanted to read the other. The other.
C
Why did we hit each other in the nut nuts?
A
Speaking of 22, I wanted to mention the other things these guys suggested.
B
Oh, yeah.
A
Which are crazy.
B
Okay.
A
Donate blood as much as possible for a year, which is like a perfect threading the needle of. That's for a good cause with also. What does that even mean? As much as possible.
B
Yeah. I mean. Yeah. How much could you physically do? What have you, once a year, a.
C
Blood bag for that.
B
Brian Johnson.
C
Yeah, Brian Johnson. The guy who wants to live forever.
B
Yeah. I think he needs his own son. Blood.
C
Blood. You know, not weird.
A
He is using his. He is using his son's Blood.
B
He is. And I believe he's also. I think he's measuring his erections and his son's. Yes, he's measuring.
C
He's comparing their erections.
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
Unironically.
B
Super. Super.
A
He actually looks way older than 47.
B
Yeah, he does. Yeah. If I saw him on the street, I'd be like, I don't know. It's a 50 year old, man.
A
This looks 50, dude. Wait, if I told you right now.
C
The fact he looks his age is like the hardest.
A
Like, what if he makes it to like, like 180, though? How long are we gonna live?
C
We won't know. Think about how much fun we're having in life. You know, he's just taking vitamins all day.
B
I know. He just like sleeps in a, like he's just like, basically his whole life.
C
Is like a sensory deprivation tank, UV light or something.
B
Yeah, he just like sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber and takes his blood.
C
Son, is he really even alive when you think about it?
A
No, he's not.
B
He's not living.
C
Yeah. L I V I n. There's like.
A
A Greek myth there of just like, literally, like taking your son's quite literally literal lifeblood. How much your own life.
B
How much money? Yeah, how much money do you think he would have to be offered to just for a day, have like taco bell and ten beers?
A
Oh, I'll start. I would give him 200 bucks. What's he worth?
B
Like $10 million for anything?
A
You don't think.
C
So he, he's got all the money he needs.
B
I wonder what would happen to his body if he did that.
C
Just start projectiles.
A
It's like the Exorcist. If people don't know we're talking about. There is a, I think a Silicon Valley. He made like not like trillions of dollars, made a bunch, but like he made 50 million, a couple hundred million and just decided, I'm gonna not die.
B
He dedicated his life to living basically forever. He lives in la. He lives in Venice, I believe.
C
Oh, really?
A
Oh, wow.
B
Yeah. And he's in some.
C
What's he, what did he make his money on?
A
I don't know. And, but it's, it's not like one of them, like, oh yeah, all the people who are billionaires are into weird stuff, want to live like cigarettes. But it's. Yeah, but it's like he actually is like spending his entire time trying to study aging through himself and not dying.
C
Oh, it's Colonel.
A
What's Colonel?
C
That's his company that he Sold. Company created devices that monitor and record brain activity.
B
All right, so I guess.
C
Geez, I made up that last part. But it probably does.
B
Another. Also another company called Braintree.
C
Oh, Web, Mobile and Web. There's a lot of money.
B
I'm sure there's a lot. Oh, he. That was acquired by PayPal for $800 million. Yeah. There we go.
A
Okay. So did. That's. Oh, man, that's a lot of money. We should have made something like that. Well, did your mom text you this week in addition to saying, did you make an app?
B
She's like, not only are you ugly and sweaty and sickly, you didn't.
A
You haven't done you sweat that much. Did they even make an app?
B
Well, wait till she sees good takes exposed.
A
You know what's crazy is our parents were right. We should have made an app.
B
I mean, sure.
A
Yeah, we should have done that.
B
Yeah.
C
Minus the fact that we don't have the expertise or. No.
B
Hey, mom. You should have helped prevent the Internet.
C
Yeah.
B
Where were you? Why were you in the library? You fucking in Seattle?
C
Google, huh?
B
Yeah. Wasting your time in the Bay Area. Bill was only a few hours north.
C
Squandering your. Your life.
B
Cooking up Microsoft. Where were you?
C
That's good.
B
Yeah.
A
Other punishments in this league. 30 day Duolingo streak. In a language chosen by the winner.
B
These are all kind of like beneficial for you.
A
Yeah.
C
It's like good for you, but also a pain in the ass.
B
Yeah.
A
Royal Military College Run. Repeat until successful. Do you guys know what that is?
C
No.
A
Royal Military. I assume it's famous because he.
B
Royal Military College run, you said Most commonly refers to a 2.4 kilometer run as part of.
A
I'm sure there's a time trial.
C
Oh, that's Canadian.
B
It could refer to a specific events like the 30 Mile Hike and run for Royal Marines ourselves. Self improvement.
A
That's a really good. That's a. That's a good spin on doing things that suck. Is things that will like suck but make you better.
B
It's like read a book a week.
A
God damn it. For a whole month. That's actually. This is funny.
B
Like adopt a kitten. Damn it.
A
Wait. We should do this next year. That's really funny.
C
Yeah.
A
Well, this was. Watch Zootopia 2 alone in theaters.
B
Dude, Zootopia 1's good.
A
I like. Yeah, you will. Calvin likes animals. Call. Call everyone else on their birthday.
B
Okay.
C
Oh wait, that was one Ours as well.
B
Yeah.
A
Well, no, we had. Everyone gets to submit someone of your choosing. So you can submit your parents and Mal has That quit caffeine, Indoor nicotine. Oh, which.
B
These are funny.
A
This is a good spin on punishment.
B
This is Brian Johnson's league.
A
Yeah, this. You know what else would be funny? Like, like, this is just things.
B
One of them should be measure your erection every night.
A
Yeah, that's good.
B
Using his ass app. Imagine if you have to measure your erection every night and report it to the rest of the league.
C
Not to be, like, too graphic here, but what are we measuring? I don't know.
B
I think it's blood flow.
A
Decide with the base.
B
I believe he's measuring blood.
C
I think it's like, you're probably, probably measuring how hard.
B
How do you measure blood flow?
A
What do you mean? What is, how do they get, how do you get that?
C
I've seen, I've seen something. There's like. Well, they're sleeping when you go in and you are like, what's, what's the, what's the doctor for? Like, erectile dysfunction. It's like a urologist or something. I can't remember.
B
Yeah, urologist.
C
And it's like they have a little thing that you can, like, choose how hard you, your erections are to, like, help the doctor understand.
B
Like, there's a chart.
C
Yeah, no, there's like a physical thing. You'll like.
B
Swapping them around. Is this one like me or is this one like me?
C
I think. I don't know.
B
How do you know?
A
You pivoted there at the end with.
C
I heard.
B
No shit.
C
Same. Anyway, here's an ad for no, but yeah, I think that. Well, obviously it's not going to, like, show the doctor your boner and say, this is how hard I can get.
B
I mean, you have to show the doctor your, your flaccid penis.
C
Yeah, but that's different. It's quite different. Correct.
B
They go up your butthole. They look at your plastic penis.
C
It's like, I've seen a million boners.
A
I would tell you guys about. Oh, I don't know if I should tell this on Mike.
C
Okay. Definitely need to. Now we can cut it.
A
It's weird to say, but, like, I know. I, I, we can cut it if we want. It's weird to say, but, like, I didn't do anything wrong, but basically, I.
C
Don'T like how this is going well.
A
No, I'm just. No, sorry. I didn't say anything wrong.
C
I just. Okay.
A
So basically, obviously, the new thing with your ball, they grab your balls, they make you cough or whatever. And I had a pediatrician, they.
B
Who's the doctor?
C
Okay.
A
You know People, the alley, you know. But the. The doctors be pediatrician. You're like 18, and then you have like, get a real doctor. Like a primary doctor. And then my primary doctor just stopped doing that. Like, after I turned 18. I was like, oh, okay. I guess this isn't a thing anymore. Like, I guess. Okay. And then I went to this guy for like 10 years, and then I found out, like, he just thought it was gay and didn't want to.
C
Touch your balls.
A
I was talking to my friends and I was like. And they were like, yeah, I went to the doctor to grab my balls. I was like, they still do that. And they're like, yeah. And all my friends are super concerned. Like, you haven't had been checked in 10 years.
B
How do you know? He thought it was because I asked.
A
Him about it the next time I went. He was like, we don't got to do that. I was like, what the fuck, dude? You're a doctor.
B
He also, yuck.
A
He also asked me, like, literally putting the sleeve on my. For the blood pressure check. And he puts it up and he's like, so what do you cover the NFL, right? I was like, yeah. He's like, what do you think of Colin Kaepernick?
B
Oh.
A
And I'm like, you want to ask me that after you take my blood pressure?
B
What are you doing?
A
Anyways, doctor?
C
This is like the family guy.
B
Did you leave him?
A
Yes. He didn't check me for 10 years.
C
Are you sure this guy was a doctor?
A
I mean, well.
C
Some doctors are not, like, the best.
B
Yeah, certainly not.
C
They can't all be the best. Really.
B
Oh, that's really funny. That made me laugh, dude. Yeah, he just like, oh, we don't.
C
Have to do that.
A
It was. I. I was shocked.
B
You picked the one profession.
C
Right.
B
You shouldn't have.
A
I just. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah.
B
You get all that schooling just to be like, I'm not doing that.
C
Yeah, I'm not doing that.
B
That's where I draw the line.
C
I was not told that this would be part of the job.
A
Okay. Bad.
B
Yep.
A
This episode is brought to you by American Eagle. We've got some hot picks for you guys. You heard it here first. American Eagle just launched the second drop of their exclusive limited edition collab with true colors by Travis Kelce. And we are pretty excited to see what new styles are out now. From incredibly comfy graphic tees to cool jackets to vintage inspired rugby sweatshirts. I just know you're going to find something fresh for your wardrobe. Not only that, but American Eagle also has so so many new arrivals that just dropped from trending jean fits to cozy flannels to luxuriously soft sweaters and more. You can check it all out@ae.com or just head to the store. All right, so we have some emails piling up here, and we're gonna save them for future episodes. But we. While we're in person, we had to bring back something that people have loved in the past, and we had to bring back something that we paused because I made DK angry. But the one second song challenge.
B
Yep.
A
Which is one of our favorite things we've ever. Well, Craig and I's favorite things we've ever done. And then also people listening, and we just. The whole thing stemmed from songs you could recognize in one second.
B
Yes.
A
And then it became a contest. First one was awesome. Second one, I made Dicky really angry. And then we're gonna do third one right now.
B
Yeah. I have faced both of you. Oh, okay. But you two have never faced each other.
A
Yes, that's true.
B
So now I am going to be the one playing the songs. You two will be facing off.
C
Okay.
B
I have put 25 songs together, and I believe the rule is. So I'm gonna play the song for around one second. You'll bang the table. Whoever bangs the table first gets the guest.
C
Bang the table.
B
Bang the table.
A
Half the issues with doing this remote was like, there was no good system to now we'll know first.
B
And I believe the rule is. So you bang the table. You get to guess. If you get the name of the song and the artist, that's two points. But if you only get one. One of of the two options, you get one.
A
But you don't subtract a point. If you're wrong. Right. You just get zero.
B
Correct.
C
But if I guess the name of the band, does he get a chance to name the song?
A
Yeah, but you get like, a beat.
B
Or should it be if you get one of the two right. That you don't. The other person doesn't get a guess. But if you use 0 for 2, then the other person.
A
We've never done it. Let's just do the way we. I think if he gets the band, he gets, like, a moment.
B
So if he gets the name of the song but can't think of the band, you then get a shot. If he. If he can't.
A
But it's so just making the song. If it's like I hope I don't need.
B
If it's Don't Stop Believing by Journey. And he. And he always says oh, it's a journey song. It's a journey song.
A
He gets a moment and then he has to, like, not be able to get the title. And then I can jump in, but he can't be like, journey. I'm like, don't stop believing. Like, that's not fair. Like, he has to. He gets a beat. He doesn't get like five minutes, but he gets a beat.
B
Of course. All right, let's get this.
C
We're just going to put our hands here.
B
Yeah, you. All right. I'm going to write down your names so I can't judge.
A
And again, to be clear, we're playing one second of the song.
B
Yeah, the first. I'm going to do my best to.
A
Do the first second of the song.
B
You guys in the booth there, keep me honest with the scores.
A
Oh, and we have a. We have a playlist on Spotify. And email us if you want the one second songs playlist. I know that a lot of people email.
B
I created my own because I know there was some debate over the songs that were.
A
When it's over, we'll add these in. And email us if you want the playlist. Ring your fancy football. Gmail.com we'll play. It's a fun song to play with games. Also, a lot of people, they did it with their friends for Thanksgiving last year. People see their friends over Thanksgiving or family, whatever. Send. Well, we'll email to you. Email something you're fancy.
B
Great way to get in a fight with your family.
A
It's fun.
B
All right, ready?
C
This is like playing Monopoly.
B
I'm trying to get this court out. All right, here we go. Here we go.
A
The Dane. Martin. The Dane. The Dimitri. Martin joke. Like board games. All of them that the same name. Which one of my friends is a competitive asshole?
C
Seriously?
B
Okay, ready?
C
Nirvana Smells like Teen Spirit. Yeah.
A
It's never gonna win that one.
B
Nicely done. Next one.
C
Thank you.
B
High Fitz.
A
I can sing it.
B
I'll give you five seconds.
C
No.
B
Dk.
C
Destiny's Child.
B
No. Can you name the song?
C
No. Scrubs.
B
Correct. It's by tlc.
A
Oh, why'd you.
B
Oh, it's not gonna go back.
A
All right, fair enough. Damn it.
C
Damn it.
B
That was.
A
That was. That was. That was a layout.
B
Okay, tlc.
A
That was a. Ben. He beat me.
C
Despacito.
B
Correct.
C
By Justin Bieber is in it.
B
That's correct, but it's not by him. He's featured in the song. I'll give you a second.
C
I don't know.
A
Lis Fonzie.
B
Correct.
C
Wow. I don't even get the credit for half a point for Justin Bieber being in it.
B
It's. It's Louis Fonzie and Daddy Yankee featuring Justin Bieber. Dk.
C
Shakira.
B
Correct.
C
Hips don't lie.
B
Correct.
C
I'm like, I'm on tonight.
B
Okay.
C
Yeah.
B
All right, Ready?
C
Oasis.
B
Nice.
C
Fuck. Wonderwall.
B
Correct.
C
Yes.
A
Is it six zero?
B
It's two. You have two.
A
Is this the real.
B
Go ahead.
A
It is Queen. Correct. And it is. Oh, my God. I know every word of the song, and now that I'm on the moment, I'm blanking on the Bohemian Rhapsody. Correct.
C
What did he get the two for before that? He got.
B
He got Louis Fonzie and. Did he get no Scrubs at tlc?
A
No, I actually think it's one. I think that's now three. Yeah, I think he's right.
C
Oh, my CER mix a lot. David got back.
A
DK is. I'll be. Jeopardy. Right now. I'm getting rocked on the buzzer. I am.
B
Oh, it's 10. Three. DK. They. Why do I have 83? You sure it's 10?
A
How many songs are left?
B
Well, we're only seven in 20.
A
God.
B
Okay, okay, Ready?
C
Wow.
A
Piano Man, Billy Joel.
B
Incorrect. Both.
A
Oh, wow.
C
I know. I know it. Hold on. We.
B
If neither of you can get it, I will do it one more time. Caroline, I don't know.
C
That's not the name of the song. Hold on. Give me a second.
A
Cancel me for that. I'm gonna get.
C
I got this fan wrong last time, too.
B
All right, I'm gonna. I'm gonna go one more time.
A
No, no, I. I know. Oh, I can't go. He gets. I'm gonna get canceled for.
B
We're getting very close to moving on.
A
Do I get to go?
B
Sure.
C
But he already said it.
B
But you already guess.
C
He just guessed. If. If we don't each. He doesn't get the go.
A
He just said he'd play it again if we didn't get it.
B
I did play it again.
C
I feel like you get to go.
A
Back and guess again if I just play it again.
B
We reset.
A
Outcast.
C
Oh, that.
B
Yes.
C
Yeah, that's what I keep forgetting the name.
B
Do you know the name of the song?
C
Oh. Oh, I know what the name of the song is now.
A
Sorry, Ms. Jackson.
C
No roses.
B
Correct.
A
Oh, I don't know.
C
I have a mental. Like, I can't get outcast for some reason because we did another outcast.
A
You called it.
C
Well, I called it at even.
A
And you saw the email. You're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, Everyone's.
C
No. I knew immediately, I was like, that's wrong.
B
Okay. Ready?
A
Never heard that.
C
My life.
B
Do you guys know that one in there? No. Oh, my God.
C
Never heard that.
B
Okay, wait. I'm going to give you.
A
Not even.
C
Give us 20 seconds.
A
Yeah.
B
You don't know this?
C
No.
A
What's going on? Oh, my God.
C
Axel Foley. Or. It's.
B
You're fine. That's. That counts.
C
Axel F. Yeah. I don't remember the band.
A
Is it corn?
B
No, not even close. It's Crazy Frog.
C
This was Craig. Axel F was my ringtone when I was in high school.
B
Yeah. Beverly has Cocktail. Okay. That song's big in my friend group. That's on me.
C
Blink 182.
B
Damn it.
A
He's beating this.
C
What's my name? What's my age again?
B
Nice.
A
I gotta just start hitting the thing.
B
Next song coming.
A
Don't know that.
C
Macarena.
B
Nice. Classic.
A
Can you play?
C
No idea who the band is.
B
It's kind of a one.
C
Macarena.
A
Can you actually play that? Is that the beginning of that song? Wow.
B
The band is Los Del Rio.
A
Never gonna get that. It's good.
B
Next song.
C
Come On, Eileen.
B
Correct.
A
That's the beginning of Come On, Eileen.
B
This is another tough band.
C
The Pretenders.
B
I don't remember Dexi's Midnight Runners not.
A
Even giving me shots anymore. I was going to give that. I took my tongue right from in there.
B
Ready?
C
That's all Hyp.
A
Tonight's gonna be good. Good. Black Eyed Peas.
C
Yeah.
A
And it's.
B
Five seconds.
A
Got a feeling.
B
Nice. I got a feeling. Counts. Here we go. Hi, Vitz.
A
Abba.
B
Correct.
A
It's Waterloo.
B
No. You have the song. No. Mamma Mia.
A
Oh, that's so embarrassing. Come on.
B
Embarrassing for both of you.
C
Craig is so disappointed.
B
Come on, dude.
A
People are shredding me.
C
Right?
A
This is gonna. I didn't think my stock could get low.
B
It's 15 to 7.
C
Oh, that's it.
B
Here we go. High fits.
A
Blanketing. I'll know when you say it. But.
C
But I don't know.
B
I'll go one more time.
A
The song.
C
It'S got a little funk.
A
It's funky. People are screaming.
B
Maybe my favorite song ever made.
A
People are screaming right now. More than a woman.
B
Correct. Oh, who's that?
C
Who's that by? I don't know. Let's see here.
A
Oh, wait.
B
First one to say it.
C
Abba.
A
No, no, no, no. It's. You told me this was your favorite song in, like, July. The. The.
C
Oh, I know. I know.
A
Other names.
C
The VGs. Correct.
B
Yes.
A
So embarrassing.
B
It's just like I'm gonna get crushed. Okay.
A
All the ones I know. Losing the buzzer.
B
There's like 10 more. You can make a run here.
A
I need a. I need a boat. Channel my bonix energy.
B
I'll go one more time. I'll give you two seconds.
C
Oh, I know.
B
He got it.
C
Go ahead.
A
Was that Chapel Roan?
B
No, but it does sound like she.
C
Kind of like samples.
B
Yes.
C
I will survive.
B
Correct.
C
Oh, Aretha Franklin.
B
No, it's Gloria Gaynor.
A
Oh, we played.
C
Craig is having the most fun actually. Being. Being the DJ is really five, nine to five.
A
Dolly Parton.
B
Nice. You needed that. That was big for you.
A
That was. That was hu. I did need that.
B
Ready? He got it.
C
What's her name? Kesha.
B
Incorrect. Oh, wait, you can still guess the song title.
C
Oh, I know what it is. Last Friday night.
B
Correct. Wow.
A
Katy Perry.
C
Yeah.
A
Wow. I really thought I was gonna get the 2 0. That was a good save by you. It was good.
B
Push this one. We'll see.
C
Evacuate the dance floor, stud.
A
I don't know. Kesha.
B
No.
C
Damn it.
B
A perfectly fine guess. Cascade.
C
Oh, I never have gotten that.
B
Daniel Kelly. I. I thought I was just going to go on a run with the Katy Perry cascade, and now this.
A
You give me a shot at Cascade. But, yeah, I think.
C
I. I don't know. Actually, I. It. Up, up.
B
It's Cascada.
A
Which proves you didn't know it, though. Cascada. And also did every time we touch.
B
Great song. Do you have this at all?
C
Day and night.
B
No.
A
No. That sounds similar.
B
You got this.
A
No.
B
Try it again. I'll play two seconds.
A
I'm more embarrassed by trying to throw out guesses that have 10% chances than even adding to my. I'm gonna know when you say it. I don't know the name of the song, but when you say it, I'll be like, oh, that's the name of that song.
B
It's a. It's a high school classic for us, for our generation.
A
I'm in love with the string stripper. T. Pain.
B
Wrong.
A
What?
B
It's sexy. My David get an acon.
C
Oh, see that? The David get a thing I never was part of.
A
I thought that was the beginning of the song right there. That drop. I feel like I've heard that. I. The first 40 seconds of that. I think it's.
C
I think that the David geta like, era was. For whatever reason, like, I never. I could recognize the song.
A
He solved racism and you didn't even like, oh, is that The Martin that's like. Yeah. He solve racism. Yeah.
B
Yeah, dude, that was the best. Okay, we have 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 more. HIIT, you need to win, like four out of five here.
C
All right.
B
Wait, no, the score is 20 to 10. HIIT, you need to go five for five. I don't know about this.
A
What high fits Till I Collapse by Eminem.
B
Nice. Huge.
A
Ain't no mountain high enough. Marvin Gaye.
C
Wow, that was good. That was good.
B
So it's 20 to 14 now, huh?
C
Okay.
A
Red Hot Chili Peppers.
B
Correct.
A
Californication. Wow.
C
Damn. Making a. This is like when we. And you went.
B
We have two songs left. And these are. Okay, I'm just not gonna say anything. Nothing. I. I'm switching it up.
C
Okay.
A
Frank Sinatra. No, I, I've never heard that in my life.
B
You definitely have. Not that that's your fault.
A
Well, it doesn't, it hasn't stuck.
C
It doesn't rattle Dean Martin.
B
Okay. No, it's Love by Nat King Cole. I wanted to throw something in there, mix it up. Okay.
C
Outcast.
A
I hit the buzzer because I had to win, but I don't know what the song is.
B
If he doesn't get it, then we can keep going.
A
We could go. Oh, yeah, give me, yeah, give me a couple more here.
C
Hold on.
B
I was. I, I, I'm not gonna say anything.
C
What was.
A
Doesn't even ring a bell. I have no synapses.
C
It's like an 80s song. It's like Breakfast at Tiffany. No, that's not right. I don't know.
B
It is. Everybody Wants to rule the world by Tears for Fears.
C
Yeah, I knew it was an 80s song, but that was. Yeah.
B
Ready?
A
No.
C
Oh, I know Rihanna and it's. You got the win anyway, but Mysteria or Wisteria. What is it?
B
Disturbia.
C
Disturbia.
B
Nicely done. Cloud ended up being close. That was.
A
That was good.
C
If it's Bo nixed me there. Christ.
A
Double or nothing five. Yeah. It's like. No, I want. You made your extra points.
B
Double one.
A
What? Yeah, you made your extra points. That's what you did. What would he win by 4?
B
21, 16 final. What a comeback by you.
A
That was a.
B
That was sick.
C
Heus looked like he was like, you know in old school, when Will Frell is like, blacked out.
B
What happened was like, you came out of the gate with. Yeah, till I collapsed. California Cation 8 in a mountain high. Bang, bang, bang.
A
I didn't lose. I just ran out of time.
C
That old thing.
A
Do you have more? I would go more just for sport.
B
Yeah, sure.
A
Actually, no, I should probably end on the part where it was cool instead of me sucking again. It'd be cooler. That was fun. We should do this Durbia Disturb.
C
I'm kind of mad I didn't get the Tears for Fears one, but I.
B
Assumed, I don't know, like that would be just song.
C
Well, actually I guess I definitely recognized it as an 80 song. I just didn't know what it was.
A
Oh, see that, that's a good example. To me that's like a two second song. That's like the. Because a lot of people send in one second songs and please email these ideas to ring your fancy football gmail.com I we'll add them to playlist. We'll send you the playlist. We'll send you the playlist. Email us. I A lot of people send stuff in and that to me is one where at least to me. Well, obviously some songs it's like the iconic parts like 3 seconds in or 5.
B
Yeah, that part takes a little bit of a second.
A
I need like two and a half. And I'm like, oh my God. But the first second I that's attached to nothing in my brain.
B
Yeah.
A
And then the third second I'm like, oh yeah, I've heard that a trill million times, dude.
C
The Martin Gay one, Marvin Gaye one was like, you're a freak. I respect the fastest kid in the world.
A
I respect throwing. I respect throwing a dude. Californication when I was. I was at a karaoke bar like months ago and the singer forgot the. Because I Californication, I think has like four verses and he just forgot the words and we locked eyes and I was like, buddy, I got you. Like, I just like helped him. And then he came and found me later during the break.
B
He was like, dude, I tried to go all over.
A
That was good. No, you did a good job.
C
Eras.
A
You did good. That was fun.
C
That was fun.
A
I see now how DK didn't like being a ref for me. I see. I I, you know, got to work.
B
Proud of you for getting eight in a Mountain High. Proud of you for getting Evacuate the Dance Floor. The part I'm most embarrassed disappointed in you both for. For sexy. Come on.
A
That one I don't. That one I don't have any David Ghetto one.
B
Yeah.
A
The part I'm actually embarrassed about is I know your favorite band is the Bee Geese. And I'm embarrassed that after you said it was your favorite band, I still couldn't get it.
B
BG's an app.
A
Because you said that like. Well, I knew it was an abba.
B
And I just played ABBA right before.
C
I know.
A
And so that's why I was like.
C
I just. I did. Honestly, I know. Mamma Mia. The song. I didn't recognize the intro.
A
I. That was. Yeah.
C
I don't know.
A
No, that's.
B
That's.
A
That was also. That was actually the most embarrassing that happened in the whole episode was me not getting well.
B
We got out unscathed. Everyone made it out. DK got the win.
C
We made it out.
B
We all had fun.
A
My only request, if you wrote a rageful comment during when I was getting it wrong, would you write a reply and be like that? I. I won back 60 of your goodwill there at the end.
B
Yeah, you made it a game 20 to 16 there at the end.
A
DK made the extra points.
B
That's right. You're. What's the guy's name? What's the kicker's name?
C
Yeah, he got cut today. Yeah.
B
Did he?
C
Yeah.
A
Oh, that's one of those like. Like what? Why to do Tuesday, not Monday. What did they do Monday?
C
They were busy meetings. I don't know.
A
Remember the time the packers backup kicker.
B
Figure out where the body will be buried?
C
Yeah.
A
Packers 61 yarder made a backup kicker made a 61 yarder the same day. I'm over it. It's fine. All right. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Craig, for making that. That was fun. Email us atjcfootballgmail.com email us about all the stuff stories of you being dumb in high school, the stuff we've been asking about, trivia questions, waivers and send us one second song suggestions. And if you want the playlist, I will email you back the playlist emails from your fancy football gmail dot com. Thank you, dk. Thank you. A lot of people in the booth making the show while we're in person. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, ct. Thank you, Austin. Thank you everyone. Thank you everyone at core week. Thank you, Bill. At the girl. If you didn't hear the Bill episode that came out Tuesday, we had a really fun time. Thank you, Gahau. Thank you everyone. Thank you for listening. Thank you. Of course, as always in particular, Lord, Lord.
C
Thank you, Outkast, whose name. Fuck. I cannot remember that for the life of me.
A
Fuck.
C
I mean, I do honestly, like, I've listened to a lot of the reason.
A
I'm shocked by that. Aren't you age wise in the exact Outcast demo?
C
Yes. No, it's truly like no, it's like a mental block. I just couldn't remember the name. Even though.
B
Yeah, you never know what's going to trip you up.
C
Yeah.
A
I mean, I'm not going to make fun of people for not knowing names.
C
I recognized it. I got the name of the song.
B
Roses. Yeah.
C
Yeah.
A
Did you guys. You know, it's funny what I learned about myself during that.
C
What I have.
A
I.
B
You know what?
C
We all learned a little bit about ourselves.
A
I'm, like, musically challenged, like, in terms of, like, music, rhythm, dancing, playing instruments. I'm like, I have, like, a brain problem.
C
You have good recall.
A
And yet. And yet, while doing that, the only way I could get everything was I had to pretend I was like. Could do it. Like, I was like Californication. And for some reason, I had to pretend I had to, like, sing the entire song in my head. And I don't. I probably looked insane.
B
The best moment was when Heifetz guest. I'm in love with a stripper so confidently. And I look in the booth and everyone was freaking out.
C
Like, damn it. I wish I could see their reactions.
A
No, the David. I also just. Blind spot for David Guetta.
B
That's crazy.
A
Well, no, no, that one's a 4.
C
The 40.
A
I. Maybe I'm hallucinating.
C
What year. What year was David Guetta?
B
Like 2012.
A
That song is very popular. But 2011, the Drop is the part. I know.
B
Yeah.
A
The drop is, like, iconic.
B
Oh, but I feel like that. That once you hear that opening beat, you're like, oh, yeah, we're in.
C
Also.
A
Here's the thing, though. I know the drop. I still don't. I can't name one David get a song I probably know, like, 30.
B
Yeah.
A
But I can't. Like, I've never put David Guetta on. On Spotify. I've never played Play on. I've never searched David Guetta play.
C
It is fun. It is really fun playing this game. Just because. Craig, you did a good job. Of all the different eras, knocking Cole was a. Yeah, I would never have gotten that one.
B
But I don't wanted to go all over.
A
Yeah, I got the vibe. I got the decade, kind of.
B
Yeah, you should.
C
I thought for sure you were gonna do. I was like pre ready to go on a Beach Boys song. I was very shocked. Beach Boys.
A
Starting with the. Starting with Kirk.
B
I want to give him a win.
A
Yeah, that was.
B
I wanted to get him.
A
That was like giving. That was like giving Rashid Rice the ball in the first play. The game like it's been sitting. Yeah.
C
Yeah, get him a layout.
B
He was more reluctant to do this. It's like, I'm gonna give him a win. And then I was like, if he loses that one, we're.
C
Call it.
B
That's funny because after the game, I hadn't get that.
A
I. Dude, the. The whole match was fucked because I lost.
B
I.
A
He beat me on the buzz. Yeah.
C
Who's winning the match?
A
Who's winning the match? I beat. He beat me on Desposito was a huge L. Like, I missed the buzzer and Desposito and you beat me on Blink 182. And that one was like that. That was. That was like a huge, like, contested ball. And he just, like, came up with it. I was like. And I was like, that's a. That was a four point swing.
C
Pretty fun.
A
That was good fun. We should do this again.
C
I like, I'd like to play. Not him, though, at some point.
A
That was fun.
C
It was fun. It was fun. And I'm impressed with the comeback. Honestly, that was pretty ballsy. I was like, I'm not gonna lie, you know. You know how like, moment momentum is a real thing. I don't want to define it, and I don't know what it means.
B
You start. You're the sphincter.
C
You start. Tighten up. I'm gonna blow this.
A
I not gonna lie. I was really confident I was gonna win at the end. And then he played Nakin Columns, like, yeah, well.
B
And then I thought, everybody wants to rule the world. Somebody would have gotten that.
A
That one. I really, you know, could you agree?
B
I thought you were gonna get that.
C
I wouldn't say Tears for Fears is.
A
Like, play the first two seconds.
C
I know. Really?
B
Really?
C
Not really.
A
But if you had heard the first three seconds, I feel like we both would. Because that.
C
I mean, I. I know we be clear. Like, I know that song, but I didn't know it was by Tears for Fears, if that makes sense.
A
That first sound, I means nothing.
C
Like. Like Tears for Fears. When you say that band. I'm like, yeah, I've heard of that band. I don't know what they're.
A
Well, that's are. I would never have gotten the band. I would have gotten the name of the song. Even now that you said it three times, I still kind of keep forgetting what the name of the band.
C
Tears for Fears. They did. They had one other really famous song, right?
B
They had Ton. They had Shout. Oh, that was Shout.
A
No.
B
Head over Heels. That's okay. They have Mad World, the one I.
A
Couldn'T believe you got yeah. And I was so confident I was gonna win was. You got the. You split the Katy Perry.
B
Yeah.
A
Last Friday night. And I just was, like, waiting for you to get.
B
Oh, I was impressed that you got. Where is it? I will Survive. That was impressive because that's a slight slow burn. But some people know that piano open.
C
That's. That's when I said Piano Man Chapel, Ron. But I think they. She probably samples it.
B
Right? For sure. Or it's very.
A
That's crushing by the sample.
B
Pink Pony Club. Very similar.
A
Yeah.
C
Yeah. Cool.
B
Yeah, that was fun.
C
And also, I think even in the intro, it's like she sings like, I will survive.
A
Yeah. She's like, she goes, I know.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Can I, can I admit something that I did at the end? I wanted it to be close, so I rearranged the order of the last five to songs that I thought he would get first, which is fine. It's the same five songs.
A
Yeah.
C
That's like putting the little sum on the scale.
A
That's what Roger Goodell does with the flag.
B
These were not ordered strategically. So I was like, I played Till I collected Collapse because I was like, I think Hive's gonna get that. And I wanted to build up.
A
I actually think playing that song is why I locked in. I'm like, that's like the only. I think for our spaghetti. No, no, that's. That's illusion.
C
No.
A
Till I Collapse. If I could draft songs that I listen to before, like a football game in high school.
B
It's the number one high school warm up song for our generation.
A
Collapse and then obviously play it again and then remember the name. And then like. But Till I Collapse is just nothing. I actually think that's why I locked in.
C
My version of that for high school was like, still Dre or Still Dre. Like, that song was iconic.
A
Another great warm up song. Emo's. Those two, like, songs you listen like the, like the pregame songs. Because I, I think, like through the.
C
Like, like now I, I, I will hear songs today that takes me immediately back to, like, warming up for my basketball games in high school. Yeah, I'm immediately there.
A
Bus rides to away games.
C
Yeah, bus rides. Like listening to music on the bus to the games.
B
You come out running with the rip away pants on.
C
Like Rage against the Machine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Bulls on parade. Oh, my God. That's a one second song. All right, email us.
C
The hyphen still thinks it's called M bop I I.
B
It's hard to say. Just like, just while speaking this is.
A
My take is like, it's, you know, the song bop.
B
It's kind of hard.
A
I actually have to like pause and take a moment to gather myself to say bop. Like just say mbop.
C
It's pretty easy. I contend.
A
Do it right now. Yeah, but look how much your face whole head moved.
C
Say, have you ever heard have I ever heard bop?
B
It's kind of hard.
C
No? Okay. It's as easy as pie.
B
I also, I was like, he better get 9 to 5 because I know you love $I.
C
Oh I'm actually pretty, in many ways pretty mad at myself for not getting that one, actually. And I'm gonna have friends that are mad at me about it. Sorry.
A
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Episode: Power Ranking Sleeper Fantasy MVPs, Fantasy Court, and One-Second Song Challenge Part III
Date: October 22, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz (A), Danny Kelly (B), Craig Horlbeck (C)
This week’s episode is a fun, energetic deep dive into the overlooked fantasy football stars—the “Glansburg MVPs” (a nod to the “Stephen Glansberg” meme, i.e., the guys putting up numbers but not getting talked about). The main segment features a power ranking of unheralded players who’ve quietly become fantasy MVPs, plus lively side discussions on NFL happenings, fantasy advice, and a hilarious “Fantasy Court” about punishment drafts. The episode ends with Part III of their “One Second Song Challenge,” a music quiz where two hosts go head-to-head.
(“Players Nobody is Talking About”—with sound cues every two minutes to progress)
(11:35-41:50)
On the Glansburg Concept:
“There’s ten guys on this list…who right now are sitting alone in the corner. And you know what? They’re doing great this year. Eating alone. Like they’re Stephen fucking Glansburg.” (Craig, 09:51)
On “Little Brother Syndrome” in Fantasy:
“He never got the shine he deserved—much like me.” (Craig, 26:27)
On Coaches Who Commit to the Run:
“There’s just deep…man thing. Like, but could you run the ball?” (Heifetz, 20:19)
McCaffrey's Dominance:
“He is literally an RB1 and a WR1 in one roster spot.” (Craig, 36:01)
Sibling Battles & “Little Brother Syndrome” (26:11–27:40)
Deep Dive on Punishments (55:30-58:38)
As always, the hosts blend deep fantasy analysis with irreverent humor, gentle ribbing, and inside jokes. The language is a lively mix of sarcasm, F-bombs, and relatable commiseration about the perils and joys of fantasy football and grown-up fandom.
This episode is jam-packed with insight on fantasy’s most overlooked heroes, useful nuggets for league commissioners (like the pick-your-own-punishment draft), and joyfully offbeat banter. Even if you missed it live, you’ll come away with actionable tips, a playlist to build, and a smile.
For custom playlists, more football banter, and to participate in the next round of Fantasy Court or Song Challenge, email: ringerfantasyfootball@gmail.com