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Power Ranking the Best/Worst Trades of 2025, Craig Vs. Sean Toilet Bowl, Fantasy Court, and Michael Bublé (No, Really)
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High Fitz
Foreign.
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Danny Heifetz
Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Heifen and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korbeck. And today it is power hour where every Wednesday we power rank something. This week we are power ranking the trades that changed this season. There is just a lot of trades that happened this year, more than usual, honestly. And they all are impacting the season as it's happening right now. We wanted, we thought it was a really good time to kind of go back and just see all the dominoes that fell and how everything's going. And then we're going to go through fantasy court. Some emails as always.
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Craig Korbeck
That's right. We got a great show for you tonight. Michael Bu is here. Literally. Literally. So stick around and we'll be right back.
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Danny Heifetz
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DK Metcalf
Woo.
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Danny Heifetz
We're going to go through.
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High Fitz
Yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
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High Fitz
Woo.
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Danny Heifetz
Too many woos.
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Craig Korbeck
Sorry. I'm doing a real power hour over here.
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Danny Heifetz
We got to get back to that. We wanted to go through all the trades because I just feel like if you look around the league, you'd be surprised how many, some of the biggest trades that were made this year are impacting the season. And some of the most surprising things, some of the most funny things, I'll be honest, I'm gonna be up front in terms of whether it's actually power, ranking them in order of the changes. Honestly, no. I think the whole bucket collectively are the trades. But I'll be honest. Spoiler alert. The number one thing I had here was Micah Parsons because it got hurt. And I'm like, you know what? I don't think Quinn and Williams going to Dallas is the second most impactful trade. But I put it next to that because I thought it's the other end of the Michael Parsons one. So I. There's a connective tissue through like nine of these freaking trades. So the order is a little fudged. But overall, I did want to talk about like basically a dozen trades. And for those who don't know, we're going to put two minutes on the clock and every two minutes you're going to hear this sound.
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Craig Korbeck
Not sued yet.
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Danny Heifetz
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Craig Korbeck
Tom. Tom. Great song.
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Danny Heifetz
The best. Well, some of the best. Okay. Yeah. Without further ado, I want to go through the. The most, the biggest trades that have changed this season, starting with number one. Spoiled it already. Michael Parsons to the Packers.
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Craig Korbeck
Sure.
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Danny Heifetz
The trade compensation to remind people. Micah Parsons to the packers for Green Bay's first in 2026. Green Bay's first in 2027 and Kenny Clark, the defensive tackle go to Dallas. And then the packers signed Micah Parsons to a four year, four year deal for $41 million per year. And how it worked out, you guys kind of know. Parsons got 13 sacks in 14 games last year, led the league with 83 pressures. And then he tore his ACL last weekend for the season.
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Craig Korbeck
This is a fucking steal.
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High Fitz
Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
This was a highway robbery by Jerry now, isn't it? I mean, hell, you would have traded Micah Parsons away for two first and Kenny Clark if you knew he was tearing his ACL in week 15, right?
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High Fitz
No, you wouldn't. No, I'd rather have him long term.
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Craig Korbeck
Well, you might not get him next year. So now we're talking about he'll be back. Well, you know, I. I don't think.
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Danny Heifetz
I'll be back week one.
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High Fitz
Sure.
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Craig Korbeck
It's a more interesting conversation now is all I'm saying.
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Danny Heifetz
I think like everything else with Jerry Jones his entire life, he did it. He tried to shoot himself in the foot. He missed. The bullet hit the ground and a bunch of oil shot out yeah, you know, it's. That's the story of that man's life. Yeah, I, I don't know. I. When Craig said that right there, I was like, oh, what a performative statement. And then I will say the Micah Parsons experience is about his otherworldly athleticism. That is like a big part of it. So obviously, like the packers didn't know that was going to happen, but I. I don't know. I. My. The more I think about this, I'm curious what you think, dk. I actually kind of think people will be surprised at how much the packers defense kind of hangs on the rest of the year. I think everyone's trying to write Green Bay off and like, they're not really a Super bowl contender now. I think people are going to be surprised. I think the packers defense is going to be like, kind of fine.
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High Fitz
I think they'll still be good. I don't think they'll. They clearly won't have as good of a bass rush. I don't think because he's just such a difference maker there, like a closer late in games and he's been awesome this year. Yeah. Opposing teams are trying to pass the ball. Like he is just absolutely creating havoc. It's like every time you watch a Packers games, Micah Parsons just absolutely freaking dominating.
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Craig Korbeck
Especially lately.
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High Fitz
Yeah. So. So I don't know. I think obviously that they will suffer a little bit, but at the same, at the same time, I agree with you. I think this is still a deep group and they still have a ton of first round talent on that defense. They'll figure out ways to kind of like mitigate his loss. But yeah, it's. It's a significant loss and I think it significantly lowers their ability to win the Super Bowl.
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Danny Heifetz
I think it lowers it, but I think people will be surprised at how much the packers are still going to be able to stop the run because Quay Walker and Andrew Cooper at linebacker are so good stopping the run. Javon Bullard in the nickel. Evan Williams is safety. I know he got banged up too. I think he's still gonna play. I just think the shout out again. Cody Alexander at match quarters has done a great job writing about this, but the packers have done a great job doing, you know, they should put six guys in the defensive line, only send four, but then you don't know which four. So it confuses the offensive line and they mix up coverages on the back end, which makes up for. They have good safeties but not great cornerbacks. I think you'll just be surprised That I think the packers go back to the defense they were going to do on August 29th before they traded for Micah Parsons. I'm not saying it's going to be quite as good, but I think, I just think it'll be much better than people think it'll be without Parsons. Like, I think, I don't know. Sometimes edge rushers come and go and I think the nature of edge rusher is probably overrated in the same way the Rams. If I had said to you the Rams will replace Aaron Donald in the aggregate and you're like, they'll be worse but not as much as you think, you'd think that was pretty stupid thing to say. And yet they've managed to be able to manufacture it. And I think that it's harder to replace an Aaron Donald than Micah Parsons. So I, I'm not trying to be like it doesn't matter, he sucks. I'm just, I just think they'll be surprisingly similar to the way they've been playing.
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Craig Korbeck
I will say point Jerry then.
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High Fitz
Well, what I was going to say to counter that Craig is right now The Green Bay first rounder is the 23rd overall pick and wouldn't be surprising if it ends up being a little bit further down the line. So like 25, 26, 27. I don't know. I still, I still feel like it was way too cheap to get a guy like Michael Parsons.
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Craig Korbeck
I think I do that if he tears his acl, if I know he's turning his ac.
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Danny Heifetz
But.
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High Fitz
Yeah, but you can't know that.
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Craig Korbeck
Well, my question was now that you know that, would you have done that trade?
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High Fitz
And you still said no, no, I, I've done the trade.
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Danny Heifetz
I, I probably would have held it, you know, if, I probably would have done the trade if I was Jerry, if someone told me crystal ball, yeah, I probably would have done the deal. But I think the packers, the Cowboys made a concerted decision that they wanted a defensive tackle. They wanted to shift their resources to the defensive tackle position. And that leads to the next trade here, which is Quinn and Williams to Dallas where the Cowboys got Quinn and Williams, the defense attacker from the jets and the Dallas sent to the Jets. The, the jets got a second rounder in 2026 and whichever Dallas first round pick is higher in 2027, whether it's green Bay or Dallas, the better one goes to the jets. And that looks really smart. For three weeks because Quinn, the Galways wanted a three game winning streak, the defense looked better and then the defense sucked and fell back Way back down to earth. And you're like, oh, yeah. The Raiders kind of made the Dallas defense look way better than it was. I don't know. I think that this is. I think that trading Micah Parsons was an emotional decision about. Basically we wanted to make the DAC extension and the CD extension content, but it ended up raising the dollar value. So then they made the Micah extension content and then they were like, oh, now this is a lot of money to give. And there was an emotional fallout with him and Michael Parsons agent David Mulaguetta, and then they kind of backed ass first into, you know what? Defensive tackles are better than edge rushers anyway, and they're cheaper, so let's do that. So I don't know, dk, I feel like Dallas, next year, they're not gonna make the play this year, but they're building this defense around Kenny Clark and Quinn and Williams. For better or for worse.
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High Fitz
Yeah, and I think that's for worse. Like, I, I don't. I don't think you build your defense around defensive tackles. I think it's nice to have a good defensive tackle or two, certainly, and it helps your defense. But traditionally, and I mean, like the market just tells you defensive tackles don't get paid as much. They're just not as impactful.
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Danny Heifetz
I don't. I actually, I. This is something I want to talk to you a lot about.
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Craig Korbeck
Run, run.
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High Fitz
Defending defensive tackles are the cheat. Like one of the cheapest, you know, assets out there.
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Danny Heifetz
Not a run. No, not just guys who can also affect the passing game. And like I'm talking elite level defensive tackle. I, I would lightly push back and say, I actually think that there is a market edge on defensive tackles over pass rushers. And for the dumbest reason possible. But I think there's actual truth to this. I think because sacks are easy to count, there's a 40 year history of more sacks, more money, please, from agents. But it took. There was like a 30 or 40 year gap between when defensive tackles could quantify their value to teams. So teams could be like, what do you mean you want as much money? So defensive tackles, it was hard to prove their value to edge rushers. And now with advanced stuff, with premium stats, with pressures being able to be tracked, I think it's easier. But if you just look, I would argue I'm going to pull this list up. I know this is very anecdotal. Sorry to disrespecting TomTom, but I think it's interesting.
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High Fitz
How dare you.
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Danny Heifetz
If you just look at the last. I'M going to go like super bowl champions if, if you just look their last. Who the best defensive tackle. The best defensive lineman of the last super bowl champions was a D tackle. The Eagles. They had Jordan Davis and they had Jalen Carter and then the Chiefs had Chris Jones. And then the Chiefs had Chris Jones again. And then the Rams had Aaron Donald and then the Buccaneers had Adam Kung Su and I think they. Yeah, and Vita Vea. The Chiefs had Chris Jones. The Patriots there and play edge rushers for like 30 years under Belichick. The Patriots again, the. You know what I mean? The Eagles at that time, before that.
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High Fitz
They were the quarterbacks on those teams.
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Danny Heifetz
They were really good.
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High Fitz
I know, but it, it is. I just think it's.
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Danny Heifetz
I.
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High Fitz
Let me say, let me put it this way, like obviously having an elite level defensive tackle is a good thing. I'm not saying it's not a good thing. I'm saying it's doing some mental gymnastics to say that you're going to trade away an elite, young, still ascending edge rusher and build your defense around some defensive tackles and think that's a good thing. I don't think that's a good thing.
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Danny Heifetz
Well, maybe he knew about the acl like Craig's saying.
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High Fitz
Yeah, it's like the sun.
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Craig Korbeck
He knew about it almost a year in advance.
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High Fitz
Almost a year, nine months in advance.
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Craig Korbeck
Almost a season in advance.
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Danny Heifetz
Jerry Jones has made billions of dollars. DK still questioning his ability to see the future. It's crazy. I want to turn the one who.
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High Fitz
Keeps saying he tries to shoot himself in the foot and oil, oil keeps popping out, which is like not apocryphal. It actually happened.
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Craig Korbeck
Failing upwards.
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Danny Heifetz
The ultimate.
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High Fitz
That literally happened. Yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
I just appreciate Jerry at this point, man. I. Yeah. Speaking of which, though, not only did the Cowboys do that, the next trade here, two minutes on the clock, is they. The Cowboys also traded for George Pickens. You know what, man? I don't know.
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High Fitz
I'm more impressed with this. Yeah, I'm more impressed with this, this trade because it was far, far less in terms of what they gave up. They gave up a third round pick in 2026. Like a future third. That's like chump change relative to what we're talking about here. And George Pickens has been one of the best receivers in the NFL this year. He's third in the NFL and receiving yards, over 1200 yards. I kind of didn't realize that. He has over 1200 yards, eight touchdowns, which is fifth in the NFL. He's the wide receiver six in fantasy. So that doesn't matter, obviously, but it's good for us. Now. There's still question marks about his effort and kind of just like what his personality is going to be on any given day that I think, you know, we're constantly talking about him and just his. What he's doing on and off the field in terms of. Outside of the actual receiving work. So this is why I think the Steelers decided to move on from him. And it's understandable. But regardless, I think, you know, the list of diva receivers who have been really, really successful for a long time is, Is a really long list. So ultimately, I think this was an incredible value.
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Craig Korbeck
This was, this was good for both sides. And I maintain that. I, I think that it, you could say it looks worse on Pittsburgh's end, which I, I guess it does, but I, I don't even know if I would. I would agree to that. Like, this is like a breakup when both sides are better off. It's like the end of finding people that fit.
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High Fitz
They fit better. Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
This is like Gosling and Emma Stone at the end of La La Land. Look at each other from across the bar and Sebastian's bar and they give each other the nod and they're like, we're going our own ways and we're happy we did what we did. I just think it's right.
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High Fitz
Spoiler.
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Craig Korbeck
Oh, come on. It's been 10 years. You haven't seen La La Land. No, that's on you. Anyway, don't tell me how Lord of the Rings ends.
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High Fitz
Hyphens hasn't seen any.
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Danny Heifetz
Shut up. I told you that in conf. Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
I will say one thing, though. It's a great deal right now when they're not paying George Pickens a lot of money.
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High Fitz
Sure.
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Craig Korbeck
They're gonna have to pay George Pickens next year. And all week in fantasy, we can. I compared the. The Cowboys this year to like the off brand Bengals. Right? You get Burrow, Higgins and Chase. Well, the Cowboys, you get Dak and Pickens and CD Lamb and you get all of the fantasy points for half the price. I feel like now we look back at the deals that Cincinnati perhaps gave, you know, T. Higgins all this and it's like, well, the defense sucks. Is this really worth it? Aren't the Cowboys just wandering down this same road where they're going to have to pay George Pickens a ton of money? The offense and the Cowboys was not the issue. Two years ago when Dak was healthy, the Cowboys led the league in points. They didn't have George Pickens. Dak was great. Like that's probably the one thing you didn't need to do was give George Pickens $100 million, which they're probably going to do.
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High Fitz
Yeah, I know it's, it's tough because it's a zero sum game, right? Like if they give a bunch of money to Pickens, then the defense just isn't going to be as good unless they draft a bunch of really good guys and they immediately come in and like contribute. I think it's just one of those things I, I personally believe, like this.
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Craig Korbeck
Is just more fun to watch and in fantasy than it might be actually good for the Cowboys in my opinion.
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High Fitz
I don't know. It's so tough. It's so tough. I, I personally believe like two, what is the expression? A bird in hand is worth two in the bush. Like they have a good player. Yeah, they should pay him and keep him because they know he's good spoilers.
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Danny Heifetz
And then you're gonna force tag him and then they're gonna just have all the contract drama up till July 15th and then they're gonna have Pickens on a contract year because I don't think.
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Craig Korbeck
There'S a drama of having George Pickens in a financial battle with Jerry Jones is about as insane as it can get.
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Danny Heifetz
They're gonna make content, baby. It's gonna be Pickens versus Jerry.
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Craig Korbeck
It's gonna think about content. I'm telling you, that's gonna be a disaster.
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Danny Heifetz
But Jerry programs television and he's gonna have George Pickens on attack. He's not letting that guy go nowhere. Know how? I'm just saying. Yeah. And also Pickens wasn't going to do this with Rogers because he takes calculated routes off and you can't do that with Aaron Rodgers. So it was smart. But with that said, the Steelers went and then they, they, they got DK Metcalf. I mean this was right before they Del Pickens, but they got me DK Metcalf for a second round pick and then they gave Metcafe five year deal for like on paper fake money, but $150 million. So Craig, how this is funny because DK, you're a Seahawks fan and Craig, you're a Steelers fan. How do you feel big picture about this where you swapped out Pickens for Metcalf?
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Craig Korbeck
I mean I, I think if you're Seattle, you objectively say this was a huge win. I mean like Jackson, Smith and Jake was one of the best receivers in the league immediately and they got a Second round pick for DK and the Seahawks are doing great and Donald looks great in the offense is not a problem at all for the Steelers. Look for the money. Was this worth it? Probably not. Paying him $30 million a year. Probably not for this offense. And what he's doing for his stat line, I mean, he's on pace for 65 catches, 900ish yards and seven touchdowns. Those are career lows across the board for DK Metcalf. Pretty much like, is that worth $30 million a year? No.
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Danny Heifetz
Well, maybe the Steelers got confused in the. Arthur Smith, the offensive coordinator, thought DK Metcalf was another tight end and he wanted to play him for 4, 10.
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Craig Korbeck
Well, that's the thing.
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High Fitz
One of them big ones.
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Craig Korbeck
It's like when you. The problem is it still kind of feels weird that DK Ma is on this team and met. There are many moments in the Steelers game where you forget he's on the field and then he catches a pass over the middle and like throws two guys to the ground and you're like, holy DK Metcalf on this team. But they don't use him like a guy they're giving 30 million a year to. So, you know, they're going to run this back next year with Rogers and DK and maybe. I, I don't know. I think he's good for this team and he's, he's the only explosive player on the offense and so that matters. And I wish they used him more. But no, this was not worth the money or, or the second round pick. However, it's nice to have him.
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High Fitz
I think the. Yeah. The way that I look at it for the Steelers is basically. I don't know what it's. What the analogy here is, but it's like they needed a number one. Where yet? Where else are you going to get one? Let's just go with this guy. He's available. The Seahawks are talking about. He's. He requested a trade. We're calling the Seahawks. They're open to it. This guy, you know, can be our number one. They don't grow. Those guys don't grow on trees. And if you look at the rest of the Steelers receiving corps, it's like Baron, there's nobody.
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Danny Heifetz
Well, to be clear, they had Pickens. We're just like, I, well, this was.
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High Fitz
But I think it was all. Wasn't. It was all part of like a pretty quick sequence there. Like.
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Danny Heifetz
Yes, but Metcalf was, was added before Pickens was traded. And they could have just obviously those deals were done in tandem internally, but we're all just kind of doing this on the premise that, well, Pickett's couldn't play with Rogers. However. What if he could have?
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Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I mean, he might have been a better fit stylistically. I don't know if he would have been a better fit mentally. And. And from a camaraderie standpoint, that could have been a disaster. I don't think it makes a difference, though. Like, the problem with the Metcalf thing is DK, you're right, they needed a number one receiver. If they had Jacoby Myers instead of DK Metcalf, and they gave Jacoby Myers $30 million instead of 150 and they spent a fifth round pick on him instead of a second round pick, isn't there a decent chance the Steelers have the same record with Jacoby Myers?
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High Fitz
Yeah. Yes.
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Danny Heifetz
We'll get to the.
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High Fitz
I mean, yeah, yeah. Their offense is not predicated on what DK Metcalf does. I mean, it helps to have that explosiveness, but, you know, we've only seen that like two plays this year.
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Craig Korbeck
It's. It's the biggest free agent signing the Steelers have ever had in the history of the franchise. And it does feel like. I don't want to call it tilting, but it's like they. They got excited in the moment and I don't think they should have done it, but it's nice to have him.
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High Fitz
Yeah, I think that's how I feel about it too. I mean, it's just basically like, look, we got this guy's available. Should we do it? Yeah, let's do it. We kind of needed a number one.
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Craig Korbeck
Should we do another round of shots? It.
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High Fitz
I'm wondering if they see it as like a long term part of the plan of like finding their eventual quarterback replacement. Like, this is a bridge year, you.
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Craig Korbeck
Know what I mean?
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High Fitz
They signed him to a long term extension.
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Craig Korbeck
Rogers is going to be the quarterback next year, I think. And yeah, DK will be 29 in the middle of next season.
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High Fitz
I don't know.
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Danny Heifetz
Roger should be the quarterback.
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Craig Korbeck
I think he should.
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Danny Heifetz
I mean, also, to answer your question, dk, I sure hope DK Metcalf is part of the long term thing because they gave him $60 million guaranteed at signing. And I know all these deals are fake, but it's like at a five year deal, it means he's there for three years.
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High Fitz
No, I know. My point is basically just like, was this longer term thinking or was it really just like, let's. We got this. There's A number one receiver available. Let's go.
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Craig Korbeck
I think they saw a window and thought maybe we have a shot right now. But the only way to get a GU guy like DK Meth is to give him a large deal like this, and they had to do it.
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High Fitz
Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
Apologies to Tom. Tom. He's been getting suplex crushed.
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Danny Heifetz
All right, well, on that note, sticking with the Seahawks into this because the Seahawks gave up Gino. I know this wasn't a trade, but it was a trade. It's one big move. The Seahawks in one fell swoop here at the off season, they traded Gino Smith to the Raiders for third, then signed Sam Darnold and then sent Metcalf away. So, dk, what. What is your. What is your letterboxd review here on. On the Seahawks off season?
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Craig Korbeck
How many stars? Damn it. We should have done that.
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Danny Heifetz
Oh, yeah, that was a better idea.
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High Fitz
How many? How many possible on letterbox?
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Danny Heifetz
5.
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Craig Korbeck
And you can give only half star. Full or half.
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High Fitz
Oh, wow. I would probably give this like 4 out of 5 stars. I think it was a good. I think it was a good move, the right move. I was pretty skeptical of it at first, but overall I think it's been the correct move to do this. Basically from every angle, you know, Darnold is not perfect. Clearly. He's. He's actually tied for the league lead in turnover, still more than Geno Smith, but he is, I think, unequivocally played better than Geno has this year. I think ultimately what we saw and what you can read between the lines, I don't think the Seahawks particularly saw eye to eye with Geno Smith, like the coaching staff in the front office. I think Darnold is younger. He's got a better contract, arguably. So I think overall it was the right move. It was a good move. It made the Seahawks better. It gives them a chance, and it kind of like set the clock back a little bit in terms of, like, how, like, what they need to do at the quarterback position. Like, maybe they can keep Darnold for a full three years. Maybe he ends up being a super long term option for them. And yeah, I mean, I was looking at his contract kind of prepping for this show, and it's like it's actually a pretty flexible contract. If they wanted to get out of it after this year, they could. They're not going to, obviously. But, you know, I think overall it's a good contract. I think it's funny because the pick that they traded away for Geno Smith actually became Jalen Milro. So Geno Smith kind of turned into. Or, sorry, the pick that they got back from the Raiders became Jalen Milro in the draft. So, so they kind of traded Geno Smith. They, they signed a veteran, and then they drafted a developmental guy. Obviously we haven't seen anything from a.
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Danny Heifetz
Better summary though, of the Sam Darnold experience than the fact that the Seahawks already have more wins this season than you did all of last season. And Deke is talking about we don't. We could get out of his contract, but we don't, we don't, we don't have to.
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High Fitz
I mean, I gave it four stars. I, I think it's a good move. But yeah, I mean, everyone, anyone with eyes can tell it's like Darnold has his, has his warts. Certainly.
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Craig Korbeck
Four stars is pretty good.
- [23:26]
Danny Heifetz
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High Fitz
I've kindly let him know that he should stop barking. He's not listening to me at the moment.
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Craig Korbeck
I love you. Leaning back. Go George. Quiet down. As he's just.
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High Fitz
Should I yell at him again? George is a. What is it? What is it? It's a great Pyrenees. So he's just a guardian dog lifestyle guardian. And just. You just can't take that instinct out of him. He just goes freaking ape anytime anyone gets near our house.
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Danny Heifetz
How do you get dogs to stop barking?
- [26:58]
High Fitz
Training.
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Danny Heifetz
What is the training?
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High Fitz
You know, you reward them for.
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Craig Korbeck
For what?
- [27:05]
High Fitz
And when coming to you when they're barking and whatnot.
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Danny Heifetz
But I'm not sure.
- [27:09]
High Fitz
I'm actually not trying to get him to stop barking because it's a good thing to have. Like if people are.
- [27:16]
Craig Korbeck
I can hear him going nuts.
- [27:17]
Danny Heifetz
I hear him going nuts. What is the communication of? Hey, don't be loud. The other things I know to trade. I've trained it a little bit like.
- [27:28]
High Fitz
He is trained, but he's so far away. This is kind of.
- [27:30]
Craig Korbeck
He's trained to kill yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
So he comes to you, but then he just doesn't bark because you're there. Is that the idea?
- [27:35]
High Fitz
I reward him for coming to me if he's barking. Yes.
- [27:38]
Danny Heifetz
So he knows that if he comes to you and he gets the treats and then he leaves, then he comes back and you get another treat.
- [27:44]
High Fitz
I don't know if he's thinking that far ahead. When we got him trained, the. The traitor was like, he's not the smartest dog. I was like, yeah, but he makes.
- [27:57]
Craig Korbeck
Up for it with effort.
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High Fitz
He's the. He's very cute. He's awesome. I love George. He is a barker, though. That's just kind of the thing was this before.
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Danny Heifetz
After, he would eat his own shit and then vomit it up and then eat the vomit.
- [28:08]
High Fitz
That was after. This is after. That was early on in George's. The George experience in my life. He doesn't really. He doesn't really do it anymore.
- [28:15]
Craig Korbeck
That was his experimental phase. Yeah.
- [28:18]
High Fitz
Trying things out, you know, that was his teen years.
- [28:22]
Danny Heifetz
All right, well, if there's barking, that's why. So we haven't paused this enough. Before we move on, we have to go back. We're doing the letterbox thing. What's the letterbox grade in the Micah Parsons trade? With a little difference. It was a five.
- [28:32]
Craig Korbeck
Who?
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Danny Heifetz
For the Packers, I think for the packers, it was a five, and now we have to dock it to like a 4.
- [28:37]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Yeah. It can't be a 5 now. Now it's a 4.
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Danny Heifetz
It was a 5.0, and now it's like a 4.0. The Quinn and Williams trade gave up a second at a first.
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DK Metcalf
I think that's.
- [28:49]
Craig Korbeck
We're talking about for the Jets.
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Danny Heifetz
I think for the Cowboys.
- [28:52]
Craig Korbeck
For the. The team receiving the player.
- [28:53]
Danny Heifetz
I think we have to do. If the team receive the.
- [28:55]
Craig Korbeck
For the Cowboys. Are we factoring in the Micah Parsons thing or in a vacuum, this trade.
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Danny Heifetz
They.
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High Fitz
Factor in the Micah thing because they wouldn't have done this move without moving Mike.
- [29:05]
Danny Heifetz
Well, then if you include the picks, it was basically Micah Parsons for Quinnan.
- [29:10]
Craig Korbeck
And, like, Kenny Clark at a first.
- [29:12]
Danny Heifetz
Kenny Clark at a first.
- [29:13]
Craig Korbeck
Basically first, which is like two and a half.
- [29:18]
High Fitz
Yeah, I was thinking, like, three.
- [29:19]
Danny Heifetz
Overall, it's like, overall, it's a two.
- [29:22]
High Fitz
Quinn's a good player. This was just a lot to come up with. A Quinn and Williams.
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Danny Heifetz
It's a lot. George Pickens, I think that's a. That's a three and a. That's a four for this Cowboys.
- [29:33]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I agree.
- [29:34]
High Fitz
I think so, too.
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Danny Heifetz
And Then. Okay, and then Metcalf for the Steelers. I think this is hard.
- [29:38]
Craig Korbeck
Three.
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High Fitz
Three and a half.
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Danny Heifetz
I think it's a two and a half.
- [29:44]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's fine. Two and a half. Three is fine.
- [29:45]
Danny Heifetz
You're paying Metcalf a lot of money.
- [29:48]
Craig Korbeck
Well, look, when you're on letterbox you don't factor in the budget of the movie. It's the one battle after another conversation. Am I factoring in the budget or just the player on the team? Just the movie. Do I factor in that one battle after another lost money or do I just like the movie?
- [30:03]
High Fitz
That's a good question.
- [30:05]
Craig Korbeck
You have to factor in the money. I think it's different. I think because the problem is the amount of money that the Steeler spent on DK Metcalf prohibits them from doing other things. Doesn't prohibit a movie studio from doing what they want.
- [30:17]
High Fitz
The other thing to keep in mind here, which we haven't mentioned is that the second rounder that the Steelers gave up the Seahawks use that to trade up to draft Nick Edmond Warrior.
- [30:26]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [30:26]
High Fitz
Who's a stud, who's been awesome.
- [30:27]
Danny Heifetz
He's going to be defensive rookie of the year.
- [30:29]
High Fitz
I think he could be. Yeah.
- [30:30]
Danny Heifetz
One simple reason and I think you could still bet this with good odds. I promise you when people fill out their balance and I think there's only 50 people who vote on this, the last thing they look at is defensive rookie of the Year. They're worried about MVP and offensive play of the year. Defensive Player of the Year. The last thing they get to is defensive rookie of the Year. And then they look at their ballot and they're like oh wow. So Miles Garrett's going to get defensive player of the year on a three win Browns team and they're like I'm going to give defensive rookie of the year to Carson Schinger. So like both like the Browns are going to have two players on the ballot and they won three games and then they're going to see the Seahawks made the playoffs and Nick and Morris who going to get the.
- [31:03]
High Fitz
You really think this through. I like that.
- [31:04]
Danny Heifetz
It's just people. It's like when the MVP and I'm like the third of the people who voted for him. Like we're in the elevator when Aaron Donald had sack Joe Burrow to win the game, you know, so it's like I don't know. Anyway, not the point. Moving on here after a lengthy delay, the next trade here I wanted to mention dk, what's your letterboxd review on the Raiders Giving up a third for Geno Smith.
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High Fitz
I mean, I think the obvious is this is like a one. This didn't move the needle for them whatsoever. And they gave up a pick and a lot of money, and they're still horrific. So they could have just gone with Aiden o'. Connell. They could have gone with Kenny Pickett. How do they get Kenny Pickett again? I forget.
- [31:41]
Craig Korbeck
They trade for him, the Browns end.
- [31:42]
Danny Heifetz
Up there, and then the Browns have.
- [31:45]
Craig Korbeck
Too many quarterbacks hitchhiked there.
- [31:49]
High Fitz
Right?
- [31:49]
Craig Korbeck
That's how he got there.
- [31:50]
Danny Heifetz
The Eagles sent him to the Browns in March, and then the Browns drafted Shadura and Dylan Gabriel, and so they sent Picket to the Raiders.
- [31:57]
High Fitz
It was like, for like a late round pick swap or something like that. They could have just done that probably, and they would have been in the sort of same position they are now, which is horrible. So I, I, you know, I've been a Geno defender. I thought Gino did a really good job when he was with the Seahawks, you know, relative to what, any other options that they had. But I, but obviously this year has been a bit of a reality check in terms of just like what his overall ceiling is. And he, he's the, We've talked about this. He's the type of quarterback who can make a good team better. He's not the type of quarterback who's going to elevate a bad team.
- [32:27]
Danny Heifetz
I, I still think when I look at the Raiders, I'm like, pete Carroll's the head coach. Gina Smith's hand pick quarterback. Pete Carroll's son is the quarterback's coach. Pete Carroll's other son's the offensive line coach. I don't like. I'm sorry. And I, we love Pete Carroll. I just don't know how. This isn't Pete Carroll's fault. And he's not gonna throw his sons under the bus, is he? So he has to throw Gene Smith under the bus. Like, you know what I mean?
- [32:49]
High Fitz
He's already through Chip Kelly under the bus.
- [32:50]
Craig Korbeck
Honestly, a very Hollywood story. Just like Nepo babies and bringing in the quarterback you like. And it's like, it's like Warner Brothers made that, that De Niro movie this year called Alton Nights, which they saw.
- [33:00]
Danny Heifetz
That on the plane.
- [33:01]
High Fitz
I tried to watch that, Craig. It was.
- [33:02]
Craig Korbeck
It's just because the head of Warner Brothers is friends with nick Pelaggi, who's 93 years old, who wrote the movie. That's the guy who wrote Goodfellas. And, And David Zas was just like, I'm gonna do this for My pal. And it lost so much money.
- [33:15]
High Fitz
It was bad. I mean, I actually don't really know how bad it was because I turned it off.
- [33:19]
Danny Heifetz
I turned it off, too.
- [33:20]
High Fitz
Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
I'm impressed you turned it on.
- [33:23]
High Fitz
Yeah, Well, I honestly just. It was one of those, like, selections where I was like, I don't know what this is. I'm gonna, gonna give it a try.
- [33:29]
Craig Korbeck
It looks mafia related.
- [33:31]
High Fitz
This is Dairo. And then it took me probably 10 or 15 minutes to figure out that Dairo was playing multiple people in the. I was like, what is this?
- [33:38]
Danny Heifetz
It's confusing.
- [33:39]
High Fitz
Is that De Niro too? I'm like, I feel like I'm getting freaking punked right now. This is ridiculous.
- [33:46]
Danny Heifetz
Sons in this.
- [33:47]
High Fitz
Yeah, right.
- [33:48]
Danny Heifetz
Okay.
- [33:49]
High Fitz
Nope.
- [33:52]
Craig Korbeck
Finally some respect for TomTom cheating here.
- [33:55]
Danny Heifetz
But I had to include it. The other part of Sam Darnold going to the Seahawks is the Vikings letting Sam Darnold go and the Vikings letting Daniel Jones go, which I know isn't a trade, but I think it had such a big impact as part of that quarterback musical chance. I thought we had to include it. Craig, what's your letterboxd review here of the Vikings let a Darnold walk?
- [34:14]
Craig Korbeck
The review of letting Darnold walk is probably a two. I mean, you could have franchise tagged him and paid him $40 million and gave it one more shot with this roster, and you went 14 and three last year. You were a top 10 offense and you could have seen what you had. I mean, watching. If you're a Vikings fan and you're watching not only what Sam Darnold is doing, but also what Daniel Jones did, you have to be a little bit like, golly, I mean, the last, the next three games here, J.J. mcCarthy's gonna need to look real good for you to feel anything about what Minnesota did. It's. It's pretty tough. I give it two stars, maybe one and a half.
- [34:54]
Danny Heifetz
Two. I. I think two is. Can you go to zero or is that. Is one the lowest or zero?
- [34:58]
Craig Korbeck
I think a half is the lowest you can get.
- [35:00]
Danny Heifetz
I think this is a one at best. I mean, and we said this a bunch. It was a hard decision at the time. And we're not pretending like we have hindsight, but the whole premise of getting rid of Darnold to have McCarthy there is that Kevin O' Connell and the Vikings had the most information about McCarthy of anyone. And the fact that we're talking about J.J. mcCarthy's throwing mechanics like three months into the season and the head coach is talking about his mechanics I'm like, then what was the decision based off of? You're like, well, he needs to rebuild how he throws while he recovers from this meniscus surgery. I'm like, well, if we had that information that the head coach hates his throwing form and he wants to rebuild it off the rehab, I'm like, I would have changed my mind. I don't know. Dk, like, is. Is it. It feels a little strange in retrospect.
- [35:41]
Craig Korbeck
It's a cost fallacy.
- [35:42]
High Fitz
Yeah. I think the, like, hindsight thing that I am willing to kind of say it now is that like, even if they had decided to keep Darnold or Daniel Jones and kind of roll with one of those guys as the starter, I think it would have been an easier sale sell than we kind of have said in the past. Like, so, like at the time in the off season, we're like, oh, they got to stick with their young guy. They got to go with him. I think it would have been like a story for like a week and then everyone would have moved on. You know what I mean? I think that's where I'm willing to be. Like, we probably overthought this. They could have easily just stuck with one of these other two guys because like everything we said, they're ready to be a competitor. They don't want to rely on this guy who's completely unproven. So I think that's where maybe this is revisionist history a little bit. But like, I think they kind of could have done that and it wouldn't have been as big of a deal as we thought it was at the time.
- [36:31]
Craig Korbeck
It was a very unique situation. It was a one of one. Because what screwed Minnesota honestly is the last two games of Darnold's career in the Vikings. It was week 18 and week one of the playoffs when Darnold put up nine points in back to back games. They lost to the Lions in a and a half to win for the division game. They lost 31, nine in that game. Darnold had was 18 for 41. He had no touchdowns. He threw for 166 yards. Looked terrible. Then they go to the playoffs. They lose 279 to the Rams. Darnold gets sacked nine times, turns over the ball twice, and everybody panics. If Darnold is fine in those two games, he's probably on the Vikings right now, but because a lot richer too, but because he was fucking terrible. It made the entire summer a debate. And I get it. And now you can look back and JJ Is not that good in the whole thing. But those two games ruined everything. If he was just okay in those games. I think he's on the Vikings right now.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, well, if only he got a rematch versus the Rams, he could have showed them.
- [37:25]
High Fitz
I know. Well, the irony is, yeah, it wasn't, you know, it was, it wasn't necessarily the offensive lines fall or whatever. It was just like, man, Darnold just can't play the Rams. He threw four picks against the Rams this year with the Seahawks.
- [37:37]
Craig Korbeck
And it's why this could all change. Like if Darnold shits the bed again in the playoffs this year, if it's.
- [37:43]
High Fitz
Wild card or on Thursday against the Rams, sure.
- [37:46]
Craig Korbeck
But like whatever. If they, if they lose in some horror, ugly, horrifying, ugly fashion and we in a wild card round, the conversation will once again morph.
- [37:57]
Danny Heifetz
So again the Vikings let Darnold leaf decided to stick with McCarthy and they also let Daniel Jones go. So the Vikings apparently put out an offer to Daniel Jones and they claim they put for more money to the Colts. And we could put two minutes on the clock here and instead Daniel Jones. I don't know how much, I don't know if it's true or not. The Vikings offered more money if they did, probably not a lot. But Daniel Jones decides to sign with the Colts, which I know it's not a trade, but we're doing. It's one big move. The Colts sign Daniel Jones, they go on a 7 and 1 heater and then they trade two first round picks for Sauce Gardner. I'm lumping all this in and I unfortunately, this is weird. I think this, if this is a sequel, I think the letterbox review on the Jones thing has to be a three and a half, maybe a four. Signing Jones for one year, $14 million to start seven and one. And then the sauce gardener trade gets like a one and a half because. Oh my God. I don't think there has ever been a team that has speedrun putting all their chips into the middle of the table and then suddenly going to the ATM because they're out of money quicker than they. They traded two firsts for Sauce Gardner because they started seven and one and then 40 days after that trade, Philip Rivers was signed to start for the Colts.
- [39:07]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, look, I think you can only go for it if you know your quarterback is a Super bowl. Like the Rams being like, we don't need first round picks. It. It's because you have Matt Stafford and you're like, I know that I can like support the. I can add a third story to the house if I trust the foundation. And I think in general it's like, ah, Daniel Jones or like the Steelers giving the money to DK Mecca with Aaron Rodgers. I, I, I, I don't like that strategy ever if you don't even know if the quarterback is good enough to win in the playoffs.
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High Fitz
Yeah, I also think it's just when you're trading multiple first round picks for a corner, like a guy that's like on the outside, there's a lot of like, I know this is sort of a cliche, but it's like you build from the trenches. And the foundation thing that you said, I think makes a lot of sense too. It's like he's not really a foundation piece. He's like, you know, he's just not going to be involved in that many plays.
- [39:54]
Danny Heifetz
Exactly. And like this is the thing. And I, I, this part's not hindsight, I admit. The Darnold thing's hindsight. I, this is not.
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High Fitz
We said this when that happened.
- [40:01]
Danny Heifetz
We said this the day of the trade deadline. Act like you've been there before for the Colts, like you're seven to one. Act like you've been there. And you know what? The Patriots never did thought they could win the super bowl and flip two firsts for somebody like, you don't see the Eagles do that, you don't see the Chiefs do that. It's like people point to the Rams.
- [40:15]
High Fitz
Cool.
- [40:15]
Danny Heifetz
That's like pointing to Adrian Peterson's ACL recovery. We didn't see anyone come back and look better until it took 13 years until Christian Watson this year for someone to come back from an ACL and look better. It's like, what about all the other cases? And I'm sorry to Tom, Tom, I just want to say the Colts thing, the two firsts, I just keep thinking about the saw and again, it sucks. Like he had a calf strain. But the Colts looked at it and it was just the classic overconfidence. It's not that different than the fantasy guy who's like, oh my God, I could win this year. And they go all in. And it's like the whole point is you build a team, you can contend every year and you add the pieces and you need the first round picks to be good to keep contending. And what bothers me is when I keep thinking about the 2019 Super Bowl Patriots, the ones the last one, or the 2018 and 19 ones, the last one that won of the Belichick Brady dynasty that beat the crap out of the Rams in the super bowl in the worst super bowl we've ever watched and they needed a cornerback and they traded 20 picks back in the seventh round and they got Jason McCordy from the Browns, Devin McCord's brother and Jason McCordy deflected the game winning pass in the Super Bowl. Brandon Cooks was wide open the end zone J Jason McCordy knocked it back. That is what the like they needed a cornerback. They they just picked one up off the scrap heap and they managed to make it by and just the two first for a guy that got hurt. I don't know it sucks. So I feel bad for the Colts but it didn't make sense at the time. Speaking of cornerback trades the other one here that just two first Resource Gardener it's funny to think how much first round picks were traded in the AFC south for quarterbacks that didn't really play much this year. But we have to come back to the Travis Hunter trade because the Jaguars look like that. You know the Jaguars are a week away from beating the Broncos to getting the first season.
- [41:57]
Craig Korbeck
I almost forgot Travis Hunter was like on the team.
- [42:00]
High Fitz
Right.
- [42:01]
Danny Heifetz
I mean DK I'm curious what you think can you imagine if I told you that Travis Hunter is going to be it's honestly this whole thing is going to look as bad as it can get. And also the Jags might get the number one sitting afc.
- [42:13]
High Fitz
I know it is. It is funny that they're doing so well despite making this trade that so far has not aged well. I mean I think so far the is it's probably not hyperbole to say like their worst fears are kind of coming true so far that instead of becoming an elite player at two positions he's kind of just an okay player at them both. Which was like the fear obviously this is early on in his career but the other thing that's coming true is like hey look playing every single snap is hard on your body. He got hurt he LCL injury in practice and he's missed you know a good chunk most of the year. So yeah this is kind of like the way it's run out so far is not you know it's not worst case scenario but it's kind of close, you know because he's just really not been an impact player on either side.
- [42:58]
Craig Korbeck
Of the ball in a vacuum. It's a one out of it's a one star. But if you look at how the Jaguars are doing you can kind of brush over it. But I mean they they gave up next year's first round pick. They gave up last year this year's second round pick that turned into Quinn Sean Judkins. They, the Browns got Mason Graham who's like a productive rookie defensive tackle for a guy who is. I, I don't, I don't know. Is he the gonna be the third best receiver on the team next year?
- [43:25]
Danny Heifetz
Like what I was driving the bandwagon for Travis Hunter being a two way player in the NFL and obviously that has. If it's not going to work, this is how it would work, how the rookie year would go. And I did even I didn't love the trade up for him because you're kind of they traded like they're assuming he can do it instead of trying. But I got to tell you, this is how if he never ends up being good in the NFL, this is how it goes because the Jaguars have to make a difficult decision. Do you have Travis Hunter try to play two positions in the NFL again while rehabbing knee surgery off tearing his lcl, or do you specialize him probably to wide receiver and acknowledge that the you use the fifth pick, that the 36th pick and next year's first for a guy that's probably gonna start next year as your number three wideout or your number three cornerback and you specialize.
- [44:13]
Craig Korbeck
Wow, what timing. I think that about says it.
- [44:18]
High Fitz
I still think there's a chance he turns into something closer to what we were expecting. But, but obviously I'd say right now the, you know, the returns are horrific.
- [44:27]
Danny Heifetz
Well, the thing that makes it. I honestly the whole thing look worse is the next trade here is Jacoby Myers to Jacksonville, which we haven't talked about enough, but I think makes the Travis Hunter thing look worse. But the trade compensation was at the deadline. The Jaguars got Jacoby Myers and they sent a fourth and a sixth round pick to the Raiders. And my letterbox review of this, I think this is a four and a half.
- [44:47]
High Fitz
I think this is like a, like a fun rom com if you judge.
- [44:52]
Danny Heifetz
Just the last two months.
- [44:52]
High Fitz
I enjoyed it, dude.
- [44:54]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's, it's, it's like neon or a 24 picking up some little indie film that gets nominated for an Oscar. Like wow, it worked out. That was cheap.
- [45:02]
Danny Heifetz
The Jacks, the Jaguars, since they traded for Jacoby Myers, have the second most points in the entire league. The only team that has more is the Rams. Like the Trevor Lawrence has three of his best five games in his career are the last three weeks. And again if the Jags beat the Broncos this Week the Jags might be the one seed. Man, I know that's a tough task, but like that's what we're talking about. Stephen Ruiz had this in his column this week and I couldn't believe it. The number one quarterback in EPA per drop back the season. So it's like the best stat. We have expected points added per drop back. The number one quarterback this year is just Trevor Lawrence. When Jacoby Myers is on the field, he's ahead of Jason.
- [45:35]
High Fitz
Literally what they needed.
- [45:38]
Danny Heifetz
And what's incredibly is without when Jacoby Myers has not been on the field this season. Trevor Lawrence ranks 38th in AP per drop back alongside like Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. The disparity. And Jacobi Myers is on, off. It could not be larger, which is crazy to me.
- [45:58]
High Fitz
This is, I think this is the perfect illustration. And what I was thinking of when we were talking about the Colts, what I was thinking of when we were talking about Travis Hunter is like, you know, it's fun to make these big swings but man is it risky. And a lot of times teams are just gonna be better off trading some mid round pick for a guy whose contract is too expensive for the team he's on. You just pay the money and you get this like productive player and you're better off in the long term. You know what I mean? Like go. Instead of the Colts trading for Sus Gardner, they could have traded some mid round pick for some random journeyman corner and probably he would have been okay. He wouldn't have been like a superstar. But you know what I mean? Like these are the kinds of decisions you make. And so these big swings, while they can sometimes pay off, this is why they're so risky 100%.
- [46:46]
Danny Heifetz
And the similar story on that note I think is the other story. And you know I have these last but you could argue these two Jacoby Myers and this one should be first. Is the Bears acquiring Joe Tuni and Jonah Jackson, the two guards and trades this year? If you, I mean people probably forgot about this, but the Bears. I did fourth round pick to the Chiefs for Joe Tuney who again he was left tackle for the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. He had won the super bowl, like three Super Bowls to the Patriots and then they sent a six round pick for Jonah Jackson and his over bloated contract. And guess what? The Bears have the best running game in the NFL. Maybe they're second in rushing yards, they're first in rushing, first downs. I don't, I don't think the Bears make the playoffs this year if they don't go ahead and trade a fourth and a six for their two starting guards. They signed their center in free agency. They even traded back in the second round and they picked up Ozzy Trapolo, who's their left tackle right now, rookie left tackle who played right tackle at Boston College the last two years. So I, you know, a lot of times, you know, we joke that linemen are logs, but I don't, I. It's hard to think of a better move like caught. Like, this is a five. I think this has to be a five. Like they said, a fourth and a sixth. And they literally not only have the running game, but Caleb Williams and what he's able to do in the pockets are stronger. The interior pressure, like Caleb's development is within the environment of having a down center run game and the pockets not collapsing. Caleb's taking half the sacks. He's like getting through progressions faster. Like you achieved all your goals as an offense, frankly, for a fourth and a sixth, I'm blown away by this.
- [48:13]
High Fitz
The Bears are literally number one in the NFL in yards before contact per rush.
- [48:17]
Craig Korbeck
Yep.
- [48:17]
High Fitz
And I think obviously a big part of that is scheme. The scheme makes a big difference. But I mean, I don't think you can do that without having at least solid starting type players. And that's exactly, I think, what they acquired. So, yeah, I mean, these are the, this is another great example. It's like these are the types of moves that end up being more impactful than some of these big, splashy moves. A lot of the time, maybe half the time.
- [48:43]
Craig Korbeck
Well done.
- [48:44]
Danny Heifetz
There we go.
- [48:45]
Craig Korbeck
Well done, Ben. You did it.
- [48:51]
High Fitz
Are.
- [48:51]
Craig Korbeck
We made DeAndre Swift and Kyle Manung guy great. I know.
- [48:54]
High Fitz
That's the crazy thing.
- [48:55]
Danny Heifetz
You know, it's funny. Swift is so good on the edge and then Ben Johnson's like, what if I just made the holes so big between the tackles that DeAndre Swift thought he's along the sideline.
- [49:06]
Craig Korbeck
I'll make it so big that he can't miss it.
- [49:11]
Danny Heifetz
The last one here, I just had to, I just had to come back to the Bengals getting Joe Flacco from the Browns within their own division. The first quarterback quarterback trade inside a division, like, ever, basically.
- [49:23]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [49:23]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, I, I don't, I, I don't know how to rate this. Like, for, for the Bengals, sure. They swapped a fifth and a sixth and got Joe Flacco from the division rival. Did they? They went one in five of them. But it was a fun time. I, I don't know. This it's like getting some old, some old guy to come. He's like the like the 10th Taylor Sheridan Show. And it's like, oh, it's got Sylvester Stallone. I'll watch it. It's good enough. But I don't know.
- [49:46]
High Fitz
You're talking about Tulsa King.
- [49:47]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, sure, yeah.
- [49:49]
Danny Heifetz
Tulsa King.
- [49:51]
High Fitz
I don't know what that's about.
- [49:52]
Craig Korbeck
Well, this guy runs Tulsa.
- [49:54]
High Fitz
I think that makes sense.
- [49:55]
Danny Heifetz
I'm pretty, pretty sure I have. You know, it's funny, I was like, oh yeah. I went one in five and then I looked, I was like, oh yeah. The Bengals scored 113 points at a three game stretch with Flacco.
- [50:03]
High Fitz
Yeah, they made it more fun, that's for sure.
- [50:05]
Craig Korbeck
Certainly they lost to the jets, but it was fun.
- [50:08]
High Fitz
I had a good time. They beat the frickin Steelers also.
- [50:12]
Danny Heifetz
I, yeah, I didn't have that much fun. I know that this isn't maybe related, but it's also not unrelated. The Bengals got again. The Browns decided to send Flaco to the Bengals for again. They, they're probably gonna end up have turning the 100 and the 200 10th pick into the 180th pick to send a starting quarterback to the division. And then Mike Tomlin comes out and is like I, this is the craziest thing I've seen a team do. And Tomlin was like the, they must be a lot smarter than me.
- [50:38]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [50:39]
Danny Heifetz
And he's so mad.
- [50:41]
High Fitz
They beat.
- [50:42]
Danny Heifetz
And then all I'm saying is one month later, the guy who ran the Browns, Paul DiPatesta, who taught Paul DiPodesta, who was Jonah Hill in Moneyball, is running the Rockies a month later. Like he leaves the team. And I'm not saying it's because of the Flacco thing, but like I, it feels maybe not unrelated.
- [51:04]
Craig Korbeck
Hopefully the Steelers kick the out of the Browns as punishment in two weeks.
- [51:07]
Danny Heifetz
I think they're gonna destroy them. I just, yeah. Something the Giants would do.
- [51:14]
High Fitz
Okay.
- [51:15]
Danny Heifetz
All right. Tom Thompson.
- [51:16]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [51:16]
Danny Heifetz
Boom. Thank God.
- [51:17]
Craig Korbeck
Bam.
- [51:18]
High Fitz
Saved by the bell.
- [51:22]
Danny Heifetz
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- [52:30]
High Fitz
Definitely don't tell anyone about this thing that you're doing.
- [52:33]
Danny Heifetz
I don't really want to be handcuffed.
- [52:35]
Craig Korbeck
The definition of an object is a material thing that can be seen and touched. It's, it's playoff fantasy court. I hope it's we get some, some doozies.
- [52:48]
Danny Heifetz
It is playoff fantasy court. So this one's special. This is Dynasty court, which is like, you know, some people get really. Oh, it's a little weird.
- [52:56]
High Fitz
Interesting.
- [52:58]
Danny Heifetz
So this is from Dan. Dan Dan says I'm the commissioner of an 18 year old dynasty league with my college buddies. Last weekend a guy from Philly named Pat went out to Los Angeles for the Eagles game. Saturday he meets up with another guy in the league, Steve, who's, you know, he lives in Los Angeles. So the two of them play golf before they go to the Seagulls Rams game and apparently they wagered their first round picks in next year's rookie draft on the golf match. Steve won and so Pat went double or Nothing on the 18th hole at golf. It's like a press, but I'm not getting a golf gambling jargon. But so they go double or Nothing for his second round pick in 2027 and he loses that too. So Pat owes his first round pick in 2026 and his second in 2027. Basically the Quinn and Williams trade to this guy just because he lost in golf. DK Dan wants to know, do I allow this transfer of picks?
- [53:53]
Craig Korbeck
Of course. Why are you asking dk what about me?
- [53:57]
Danny Heifetz
Because DK hates golf and loves Dynasty.
- [54:00]
High Fitz
Man. That's a good question.
- [54:03]
Craig Korbeck
This is business. Every deal gets made on a golf course. In all aspects of corporate life, they're betting each other.
- [54:10]
Danny Heifetz
You know, it's funny, we spend so much time worrying about collusion where we're like, well, they did this because he owes a money or something and like but it's funny, I. We actually don't get a ton of. Well, they just bet on it and he lost. Like, that's kind of funny.
- [54:22]
High Fitz
I mean, this, this reminds me a little bit about how my buddy traded a pick for a car in real life. Or not a piggyback. Worse, he traded like some running back. Okay. Like Michael Turner for a car.
- [54:36]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [54:38]
High Fitz
And I just, I don't know what to make of that because I think on one hand I'm with Craig, where it's like, this is like, you, you're the idiot who decided to bet your first round pick. Like, we should just let this go through. But it's also, these are the types of things that can, like, tilt the league, the competitiveness of a league, a dynasty league in particular. So I don't know, I kind of land in the middle. I think ultimately I. I side with Craig here and think they should let it go, but I don't know. It's a fine line, I think.
- [55:04]
Danny Heifetz
I think the, the. At the base level, you delete the first round pick and give the guy the second.
- [55:10]
Craig Korbeck
Why?
- [55:11]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, the guy was dumb enough to bet it. He shouldn't get it back. He shouldn't be bailed out.
- [55:16]
High Fitz
Oh, like, at the very least.
- [55:17]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, at the very least, you get. You just delete the pick. You shouldn't be like, he's stupid enough to bet it. Like, you got to cut a head off and be like, if you just bet your picks, like, I think it's.
- [55:27]
Craig Korbeck
Fine if these two. If these two guys made a bet.
- [55:29]
High Fitz
Two consenting adults. Yeah.
- [55:30]
Craig Korbeck
About giving up your first round pick. Whoever loses and one guy lost.
- [55:33]
DK Metcalf
What's the problem there, man?
- [55:34]
High Fitz
How drunk were they on the golf course? The. The double or Nothing on the 18th hole.
- [55:39]
Danny Heifetz
This is funny. I feel like, I feel like until I read this, I would have been like, you can't bet your picks.
- [55:44]
High Fitz
Come on.
- [55:44]
Danny Heifetz
Then I'm reading it. I'm like, you know, the guy was dumb enough to bet his pick.
- [55:47]
Craig Korbeck
Of course you can. I mean, look it. It's not like I'll. Something under the table. I'll give you something outside the realm of this league, right? Like a car.
- [55:56]
Danny Heifetz
If it's.
- [55:57]
DK Metcalf
If it's.
- [55:57]
Craig Korbeck
Pick for pick, I'm like, Craig, if.
- [55:59]
Danny Heifetz
You showed up to your, to your, like a. Your regular redraft, not dynasty. You show up to a regular redraft league in your league, and you show up at your friend's draft, your oldest league, and you're like, oh, yeah, by the way, your friend. Yeah, it's like he, they lost in golf yesterday. So he actually has two picks in the first round this year. Would you, I feel like you'd freak out.
- [56:20]
High Fitz
I know. That's where I, that's like what I'm worried about.
- [56:22]
Craig Korbeck
There would be a lot of questioning, I think, but I, I, you're right. I, I wouldn't love that in the.
- [56:27]
Danny Heifetz
Moment, but I would not allow it. You'd be like, this is horseshit. You can't do that.
- [56:31]
High Fitz
See, this is what I'm talking about. It kind of, it does shift the competitive balance in the league. No, he, the Sonic guy doesn't get anything back. He just gets a first round pick and a second round pick.
- [56:39]
Danny Heifetz
I think, because you shouldn't be allowed to do this. I think the punishment should be that guy just loses the first rounder because he had the balls to gamble his pick, but the other guy can get the second as a remedy. And then you ban it going forward.
- [56:51]
Craig Korbeck
I, the guy doesn't lose the first and the second, he just loses the first.
- [56:55]
Danny Heifetz
I think the league needs to decide if this is allowed or not. And whatever they decide in this thing is the policy going forward. If there's no gambling of picks, if they want, like, you know what, you can gamble picks now. It let it stand. If you can't do it going forward, then you could just send them back. But part of me is like, there should be a punishment to this guy for putting his pick on the line.
- [57:14]
Craig Korbeck
I don't have an issue with this.
- [57:17]
High Fitz
It is interesting. I, I've had friends in my league. You guys know Jackson, he loves trading. And so I think I've seen him basically send trade offers to teams he thinks he's going to finish ahead of. So basically he'll trade with first. With a guy who's like, he's basically saying, you're gonna have a worse record than me. I want your first.
- [57:36]
Danny Heifetz
That's not this, though.
- [57:37]
High Fitz
I know. And I'm saying this, that's a little different. But like, that's the kind of stuff I think is totally kosher. I don't know.
- [57:42]
Craig Korbeck
This is funny. This is like in poker when people start tilting, like, put your watch on the table. When you run out of money, it's like you put the D your house down, start giving away Dynasty first rounders.
- [57:51]
Danny Heifetz
Also, I want to shout out Jackson, you mentioned, because he runs the Dynasty league that we're all in with your friends from home, DK and Jackson, because of my tilting about, I don't know what socks to wear. He sent me socks for Christmas.
- [58:01]
High Fitz
Oh, yeah.
- [58:01]
Danny Heifetz
And any. A color coded chart on when to wear what socks.
- [58:04]
DK Metcalf
So, guy.
- [58:06]
High Fitz
What a guy.
- [58:07]
Danny Heifetz
What are we deciding? I feel like you shouldn't be able to do this, but this is funny that it happened, but if it was my league.
- [58:12]
High Fitz
What. Yeah. What's the ultimate decision here? Craig is for it. High. Fitz is against it.
- [58:16]
Danny Heifetz
I think the league gets to vote, but whatever they decide, it has to be the policy going forward. I think that if you allow this, then you could do it like, I, I don't know, can we abstain? Just kick it back to them. Be like, I don't know, kick it.
- [58:27]
High Fitz
Back to a lower court.
- [58:28]
Danny Heifetz
Seems funny to us.
- [58:30]
Craig Korbeck
It sounds like a fun bet to me.
- [58:32]
Danny Heifetz
Can I be honest about. Not the right decision, but how I feel is. It depends on if the guy that won is like, I liked him more.
- [58:40]
Craig Korbeck
Right.
- [58:42]
Danny Heifetz
I feel like that's how it'll end up being ruled.
- [58:43]
Craig Korbeck
Is he a good hang? Who is he?
- [58:45]
Danny Heifetz
Who is he? Like, less annoying.
- [58:47]
Craig Korbeck
How did they shoot? Are they good golfers or bad golfers?
- [58:50]
Danny Heifetz
That's the other thing is like, if you're gonna, like, you're gonna be like, you bet on that. Like, if the guy loses. Sucks.
- [58:55]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [58:58]
Danny Heifetz
So we don't know.
- [58:59]
High Fitz
Okay, so. So I'm gonna allow it.
- [59:02]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Live a little. Should be able to. If you're dumb enough to bet picks, then you have to live with the outcome.
- [59:08]
Danny Heifetz
That's kind of where I'm at, which is why I think this, the solution isn't to undo it. It's either you allow it or you delete the picks and be like, there's your punishment. How dare you.
- [59:18]
High Fitz
But this is. Here's a good. This is a good reminder to all the commissioners out there is like, make a rule about this.
- [59:24]
DK Metcalf
Make a rule.
- [59:25]
High Fitz
Make a rule about this. This off season.
- [59:26]
Danny Heifetz
Okay.
- [59:30]
Craig Korbeck
Should we give a ringer Fantasy League update?
- [59:32]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I think it's time for ringer Fantasy League update.
- [59:35]
Craig Korbeck
We don't have a jingle for that, unfortunately.
- [59:38]
High Fitz
Use one of the farter shark things.
- [59:40]
Craig Korbeck
What, by the way, was it Clint who made the song? Was that.
- [59:45]
Danny Heifetz
I can look it up.
- [59:45]
Craig Korbeck
Clint is the guy who tweeted us that he put it on YouTube. But did he actually make it or did he just put it on YouTube? I guess. How would he have it? It must be him.
- [59:53]
High Fitz
Well, he made it, but I think made is like a relative term.
- [59:57]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [59:59]
High Fitz
Didn't you say he. It was AI?
- [60:02]
Danny Heifetz
I think he did because, I mean. Yeah, a four minute song.
- [60:05]
Craig Korbeck
He made it. It Was AI. Do we know that?
- [60:08]
Danny Heifetz
I believe it was AI. I mean, it was a very well made song.
- [60:11]
Craig Korbeck
Did he write the lyrics or was it just melodically AI?
- [60:15]
Danny Heifetz
Unfortunately, that's a very simple prompt and spit out an amazing song, which is Craig's.
- [60:23]
High Fitz
Like, this is pretty good.
- [60:24]
Craig Korbeck
I listened to it while having lunch today.
- [60:28]
Danny Heifetz
Straight up.
- [60:29]
Craig Korbeck
I wanted to hear the lyrics.
- [60:30]
High Fitz
They were.
- [60:30]
Craig Korbeck
They were very well written. Damn it.
- [60:32]
High Fitz
Say I got by the clankers again.
- [60:36]
Danny Heifetz
Got caught by the clankers.
- [60:37]
Craig Korbeck
Those clankers can really make a tune.
- [60:39]
High Fitz
They are. They're good at this.
- [60:41]
Craig Korbeck
It's crazy. When you give them the entire history of music, they can. They can figure it out.
- [60:46]
Danny Heifetz
That's weird. Yeah, Weirdo. That works.
- [60:50]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. High fits. I. I shouldn't be the one to tell people what's going on in the ringer league because I'm in the toilet ball.
- [60:55]
Danny Heifetz
So. Yeah, tough. So tough for Craig.
- [60:58]
Craig Korbeck
It's kind of the best possible outcome. You two. Like two of us are the top two seeds and one of us is battling for last. I think that's ideal.
- [61:05]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [61:05]
Danny Heifetz
Dick and I went on by and so I am pretty sure. So I'm actually gonna pull it up. So Mallory beat the. Mallory kind of breathed the brakes off house this week.
- [61:16]
Craig Korbeck
And Chris Ryan beat Tate. Sorry. Chris Ryan beat Sal by a lot. Yes. Sal lost. Sal lost. And Sal was the wagon for the first. Sal was like the colts this year. Really?
- [61:25]
Danny Heifetz
Yes.
- [61:25]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [61:26]
Craig Korbeck
And now we have DK versus Chris and we have High Fitz ver Mal Henderson. And now he's gonna whip my ass versus Mal. What could go wrong is great, but. And then now in the toilet bowl is me versus Sean. Fantasy you, you up.
- [61:40]
Danny Heifetz
Craig, you had one important week all year, which was this week to beat Bill. If you said you beat Bill, you would send him to the toilet bowl.
- [61:45]
Craig Korbeck
And you it up, to be honest.
- [61:47]
High Fitz
So Bill's safe. Bill is safe.
- [61:49]
Danny Heifetz
Craig it up. I.
- [61:51]
Craig Korbeck
Look, I did my best. I don't know, Drake. London's knee needs to heal. I don't know what to tell you.
- [61:55]
High Fitz
I did my best.
- [61:57]
Craig Korbeck
But now it's me and Sean in a two week bake off to have the worst fucking team. And I you. I know it'd be funny if I lost, but do we gotta. I was talking to Sean last week in the office about the headband thing. He's like weirdly into it. He's like, I might wear one anyway even if I lose. I don't know if he's like trying to pretend like it doesn't bother him, but I Was talking to Liz about this. It's funny what. I told her what the punishment was for Sean that he has to wear a headband during a big picture recording. Her first thought was, like, a head. Like. Like a. A headband that women wear. Like, that pushes back your hair. That kind of holds your hair back. And my head. It's like an Allen Iverson headband.
- [62:32]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, it's like LeBron.
- [62:33]
High Fitz
Oh, like a sweat band.
- [62:35]
Craig Korbeck
Like a sweat band.
- [62:36]
High Fitz
It's funny, I was thinking like a Karate Kid headband.
- [62:39]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, something like that.
- [62:40]
Craig Korbeck
Like a bandana.
- [62:41]
High Fitz
Right.
- [62:42]
Craig Korbeck
Tied around your. Yeah. So, Andrew, Liz was thinking of a more traditional headband that, like, you would.
- [62:46]
High Fitz
Wear, like a snow.
- [62:48]
Danny Heifetz
A basketball headband.
- [62:50]
Craig Korbeck
I'm thinking, like, basketball headband.
- [62:52]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [62:52]
Craig Korbeck
I guess he should have said sweatband. But is he going to be able to. To get out of that now because of the technicality?
- [62:56]
Danny Heifetz
No, absolutely not.
- [62:58]
Craig Korbeck
It needs to be a. It needs to be a sweatband.
- [63:01]
Danny Heifetz
Absolutely not.
- [63:02]
DK Metcalf
It's.
- [63:03]
Danny Heifetz
It's. It's. It's a headband, like a basket. This is the ringer. We're not going to not do the basketball style headband.
- [63:09]
Craig Korbeck
So I think we have.
- [63:10]
Danny Heifetz
He also is going to kill me because the text. He was basically like, he's going to do the. The show that he says is going to be an hour. Just deriding my abilities as commissioner.
- [63:19]
Craig Korbeck
I. Yeah, what's.
- [63:22]
Danny Heifetz
What's up, Craig? You don't think I'm doing a great job?
- [63:24]
Craig Korbeck
No, no, actually, I. Look, I have all the sympathy in the world for commissioners. I'm a commissioner in my home league. People are always pissed, and I. You've communicated everything. Nobody reads your text.
- [63:31]
Danny Heifetz
No one reads your text, Including.
- [63:33]
Craig Korbeck
It might be a little long, but.
- [63:36]
Danny Heifetz
A little long.
- [63:37]
Craig Korbeck
People don't want to read a lot in the office. I saw Chris yesterday, and he was like, so wait, what do I get if I win this league? And I was like, nothing. You get nothing.
- [63:46]
High Fitz
He's like, damn it.
- [63:47]
Craig Korbeck
He's like, damn it. Now I'm invested now.
- [63:49]
Danny Heifetz
Ringer 107. We were like, so what was the answer? Did we go to Vegas? And it's like, no, there's no. There's no.
- [63:54]
Craig Korbeck
There's not no winner. No.
- [63:55]
Danny Heifetz
It's no price.
- [63:56]
High Fitz
Turns out no one's a winner.
- [63:58]
DK Metcalf
Yeah.
- [64:00]
Danny Heifetz
There are punishments, though. Okay. Is that all we got?
- [64:03]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. I think it's time to. To get out of here.
- [64:06]
Danny Heifetz
I think so. Okay. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Ryan. Thank you Austin. Thank you, Evan, for listening, and, of course, thank you, Lorne.
- [64:17]
Craig Korbeck
Lauren.
- [64:18]
Danny Heifetz
Thank you, Michael Buble.
- [64:19]
DK Metcalf
I know. It's my pleasure. So happy.
- [64:22]
Craig Korbeck
Wow. Michael Buble in person. How did you do that? You made him magically appear.
- [64:27]
DK Metcalf
Oh, wait till you see this. Lauren, come here. I wish he was. I love Lauren the best.
- [64:35]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, who doesn't? You're an SNL legend. You were on some awesome episodes back in the early 2010s.
- [64:41]
DK Metcalf
Oh, yeah. Dude, I've been trying to open a restaurant, Ham and Bubbly, for many years, but no one.
- [64:45]
High Fitz
I watched that today, actually.
- [64:49]
Danny Heifetz
Can't get the seed, buddy. Oh, my God. Well, I. I think everyone who's actually made it is probably wondering why and how this happened. And the. The true answer, it seems, is that you're actually like a fantasy football sicko. And tell me if I get this wrong, but you're in eight leagues. You have offered to trade your Grammys to win one of your eight leagues. And so we're curious, who is the player you drafted this year that you are most angry at?
- [65:18]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. How are things going?
- [65:21]
DK Metcalf
Most angry. You know what's sad is it's not eight leagues. I say that, but it was actually nine. One of them was a Guillotine league, so I didn't count.
- [65:28]
High Fitz
Oh, yeah.
- [65:29]
DK Metcalf
And I won. I won that league.
- [65:31]
Craig Korbeck
You did.
- [65:32]
High Fitz
Nice.
- [65:33]
DK Metcalf
Canada league. I said it before on a. On an interview, and I got it wrong. I called it Lar Kanata, but Lark Canada and the other eight are good. The player. I don't want to ever get angry because they're people. They're people with families, and they probably hate us. And, you know, probably many of them secretly probably hate fantasy football, too. Have I been disappointed by certain draft picks? Yeah, of course. Not as much this year as last year. Last year was. Last year was brutal. Can I talk about the ones that I was most happy about?
- [66:10]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Yeah. On the sleepers that hit?
- [66:13]
DK Metcalf
Well, lately, not as much, but Igbuka was like. I had this thing where I just felt it, and I was like, I just think it's going to be great. I think Mayfield is going to throw them a lot. I know it's busy, but Omarion Hampton, it didn't start great, but then it got great, and then it. Obviously the poor guy got injured and. But he's back now. Perfect time for second round, which I've made it to.
- [66:38]
Craig Korbeck
Are you doing college football prep? Are you, like, watching the NFL draft? Are you kind of, like, scouting the rookies as they come into the season?
- [66:44]
DK Metcalf
Yeah, you Know what's really funny? You guys just like you, I. I love it. And I love, I love hockey too, by the way. So, like, instead of spending my other, you know, that's really a big hobby. It's like, I love watching it, watching you guys, you know, talking about what. Seeing what's happening, who's coming, you know, looking at the rosters and who we have as backups and, you know, like, it's just like. I enjoy it in the off season. It's. It's a lot of fun to. You know. I'll be really, really honest with you. A buddy of mine on one of my group chats yesterday, he's lost, he's out. And he said, I'll talk to you guys in nine months.
- [67:30]
High Fitz
No way.
- [67:30]
DK Metcalf
And at first I saw my phone and I was like, nine months. And then the sobering it hit me and I was like, nine months. And then I started to count the months and I was like, nine months? No, like how I can't, you know, like in the summer where I'm just like wandering around and there's no reason to look at my phone because who cares? Because there's no fantasy football and there's nothing. There's no mock traps. And so, yeah, I just really. I just enjoy it a lot. I really do.
- [68:06]
High Fitz
We gotta get you introduced to dynasty leagues. You ever heard of a dynasty league?
- [68:09]
DK Metcalf
Of course I've heard. Yeah.
- [68:11]
Craig Korbeck
Rookie dress.
- [68:13]
High Fitz
All right, all right, we'll talk, we'll talk about it.
- [68:15]
Craig Korbeck
It's a good idea that you do nine leagues because it's like you're bound to hit the playoffs in like a third of them. You might win one. It's like, so it's kind of nice. You're playing the odds by having nine different leagues.
- [68:24]
DK Metcalf
I also draft a lot of the same guys. I don't love cheering against myself, which is why it's been a great year. Because in most of the leagues I sort of. I went for a lot of the same guys. And so it's been, it was a really good year. It's been a great. Can I ask you guys because it's obviously playoffs. I know you guys are in lots. Probably too many leagues too. How has it gone for you?
- [68:48]
Craig Korbeck
We are in a company wide league at the ringer. And these two guys made the playoffs. I did not. Unfortunately, we do have a great punishment system. This year we introduced something new where you're allowed to. We essentially add a round to the end of the draft. And so it's basically like you draft whatever it is like 17 players, but we add an 18th round and you're allowed to draft a bowl of punishment. So we have like 10 to 12 possible punishments. So rather than it being one punishment for whoever gets last, you get to pick out of a hat and be like, I would. I want this to be my punishment. And you can draft it whenever you want throughout the draft. So if you want to be like, you know what, no caffeine for a week is one of the punishments. I want to get that out of the way early. I'm going to draft that in round five instead of a player. That's kind of like a new system. We're trying to really.
- [69:33]
DK Metcalf
But who would ever draft dilute. No, I know.
- [69:36]
Craig Korbeck
That's the thing.
- [69:39]
DK Metcalf
What are your favorite punishments? I know.
- [69:42]
Craig Korbeck
We.
- [69:42]
DK Metcalf
We did our punishment. We.
- [69:45]
High Fitz
What was it?
- [69:45]
Danny Heifetz
What is it?
- [69:46]
DK Metcalf
What is your punishment? Ours is a pancake thing. You got to go to a. Gotta go to like a restaurant and you have to eat every pancake you eat. It's like the booze thing, but you.
- [69:54]
Craig Korbeck
Do the Waffle House thing.
- [69:55]
Danny Heifetz
Is it 24 hours in a pancake house.
- [69:58]
DK Metcalf
You know what the best. The best part about it is? For almost a whole year, I don't think I've had many conversations with Colin without calling him a pancake eating motherfucker.
- [70:14]
High Fitz
This is the.
- [70:14]
DK Metcalf
And now it's just there's so many reasons to use it.
- [70:17]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, that's a draft day reference. If you guys aren't aware of it, of course.
- [70:20]
DK Metcalf
The greatest movie.
- [70:21]
Craig Korbeck
Kevin Costner.
- [70:22]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [70:23]
DK Metcalf
I think it won the Academy Award, if I'm not correct. It won the Academy Award for best movie ever made.
- [70:28]
Craig Korbeck
Yes, I believe that's right. That's true.
- [70:31]
Danny Heifetz
The bestest picture of them all also. So I'm curious, are you. DK is from Seattle. Are you a Seahawks fan?
- [70:37]
DK Metcalf
Yeah, I'm a Seahawks fan. And through some friends, I became, I would say, a fan of the Chiefs. I mean, I really. This is a few years before they kind of got on the run. A friend of mine, his name is Eric Stonestreet and he's among many things from a show called Modern Family. And he is such a. He's a great dude, beautiful guy. And he would introduce. He would bring me down to the camp and stuff, and I got to meet the guys and hang and, you know, I'm a big Brett beach fan. And. And so it was. It was just impossible not to pull from. I really liked him. And then of course, they started to win. And then it's like, wow, that Feels good. You know, it's funny. I'm here, I'm about to do the Voice, and Snoop would make fun of me all the time because he's a big Pittsburgh fan, and he'd make fun of me. He'd be. He'd be like, don't trip on the bandwagon. Must be really hard to be a Chiefsman. Now it's gonna be, you know, now no one can say that it's gonna be. You know, it's not gonna be easy.
- [71:42]
Danny Heifetz
I mean, to be honest, we're still gonna say it. I mean, I noticed that you flipped in, like, the. I got in there before, but, you know, it's okay. You could. We say this all the time. People should be bandwagon fans. More like.
- [71:52]
DK Metcalf
That's fine.
- [71:52]
Craig Korbeck
It's how people start being fans. Like when kids. Kids usually adopt a team because they're good when they're a kid, and then they're like, you know, fun.
- [71:59]
DK Metcalf
This is a very. This is funny that we're talking about this because I. You know what I hate? I don't love when people have, like, you should have one team and hate everyone else. You know what I mean? Like, so it's. I'm really struggling with this. It's a struggle. It is. And. And it's like, I'm friends with these people, and so I do want them to, you know, but, you know, deep in my heart, I've been a Seahawks fan my whole life. Like. Yeah, my whole life. Like, that's the first thing thing I. Besides the Blue Jays, I ever felt like I won anything. Like, when. You know what I mean? Like, when they won, it was like. And so, yeah, like, yeah, like, I'm watching the game yesterday and. Or whatever this. You know, I'm watching the game that last week that they played, and, yeah, it's getting the end of the game, and I've got butterflies in my stomach because I care.
- [72:51]
High Fitz
Yeah. I was going to ask if the Seahawks play the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. In your heart of hearts, in your gut, who do you think you're pulling for there?
- [72:59]
DK Metcalf
I think it would be impossible not to say the Seahawks just. If I had a truth term. But let me tell you why this all becomes so complicated. Because yesterday, the day I was watching that game, the seat Seattle game, I was also watching the guy I was playing with, Myers, kicking the shit out of me. And every time he would kick, I would just go like, oh, no. Oh, God. Oh, no. And then. Then that's when.
- [73:29]
High Fitz
This is.
- [73:30]
DK Metcalf
When. This is a Lie within yourself complex because you know you, you want the Seahawks to win, but then you're going like, just miss this one. Just miss this one. Oh, it's so, it's so, it's, it's compelling.
- [73:41]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, you have to, you have to balance. Do I want to lose in fantasy? Do I want my team to lose the 44 year old Philip Rivers who hasn't played in five years? That's kind of tricky.
- [73:50]
Danny Heifetz
But I will say you, the Tornheart thing is real. I'm a Giants fan, so I've started rooting for fan. It's suddenly I'm like, oh, I'd rather Giants lose you for the players going against you. You mentioned that the Seahawks, Chiefs thing. The other one is you mentioned the Blue Jays. And let's be real, your heart was probably torn in the World Series too, because, you know, Grammys are nice, but honestly, the coolest thing you've probably got going is that Ohtani uses your song as his walk up song.
- [74:15]
Craig Korbeck
How did you find that out?
- [74:16]
DK Metcalf
Yeah, I mean, so not, not torn, by the way. Huge Ohtani, like, huge Ohtani fan. Every time he goes up, it's like I had goosebumps and I realized how funny my manager and I, I realized constantly how unbelievable this is that the greatest player arguably who's ever played the game that he. This is part of the story now, like two times and this is now going to be the third year or whatever. But no, there was nothing. I was not torn in any way. I'm a Blue Jays fan again.
- [74:51]
Danny Heifetz
I mean, a little. A little. So it would be weird.
- [74:55]
DK Metcalf
No, no, I was on, I was on like an Air Canada flight with terrible Internet refreshing every three seconds and, and just, and going like. Oh, no, no, I was, I wasn't torn. Guys.
- [75:07]
Craig Korbeck
It's got to be like a little bit. It's like, it's like the Seahawks thing with Jason Myers. It's like maybe you want Ohtani to hit a couple homers, high scoring to lose.
- [75:14]
DK Metcalf
Yeah, no, like totally. When he walked up and just, it was like. What's even crazier is he was pitching too. And so then it starts with the song. You know what I mean? I have more people blowing up my phone. I mean, you know what? It's been really good lately.
- [75:32]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [75:32]
DK Metcalf
Honestly, like feeling good. You got Ohtani. I mean, it's Christmas, I'm everywhere, and soon Valentine's Day and Mother's Day will come and I will be dominant once again. And I'm going to the second round of the fans. You're gonna win.
- [75:46]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [75:47]
DK Metcalf
And God dang.
- [75:49]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I want to. How did you find out that Ohtani used your song? Were you watching? Did somebody text you, like, when it first happened? How did you find out?
- [75:56]
DK Metcalf
I found out.
- [75:57]
Craig Korbeck
I was.
- [75:58]
DK Metcalf
I watched the games. I mean, I watched the games and. And he's amazing, so I obviously, like everyone else, hope he go to my home team.
- [76:07]
Craig Korbeck
And then.
- [76:08]
DK Metcalf
And then I got. I got to meet him and got to. To thank him, and, you know, it was just very cool to. And I'm buddies with Dave, and he's obviously. I was really happy for him and great, great, great manager. Great, great man. So, yeah, I mean, listen, you want. Listen, my grandpa used to say it to me all the time. He used to say, sunshine, it's just a game. And it would just give me context in my life because, as, you know, and all the people that are watching this know, sometimes it's. Sometimes it's, you know, it's. It's. You get down. Like, you really do. Like people. People always will. If they don't know and they don't say, play fantasy football, they won't know how much it actually means to you. And, like, when you, you know, when you get knocked out or you lose the championship, it's. You care. Like, you care. You care all year, you care, you know, so. But at the same time, you know, it's always good to have context and you know, Know what's important. I'm saying this. Office therapy, right? Talking into existence, by the way, just so you know, too, it's like, I got point, 10 points from Neil, and I was like, oh, what a genius.
- [77:26]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, yeah.
- [77:27]
DK Metcalf
So smart, you know, like Watson. I was like. And then it was just. I just watched guy after guy, and I was like, oh, God. Oh, God. Next year I will. I will be working the Wave of Fire very hard.
- [77:41]
Danny Heifetz
I'm praying just draft the guys who don't get hurt. It's easy. But to your point, the one thing I want to ask you about, obviously I'm not off to do the whole thing, like, you know, king of Christmas. Obviously, you've had success with the Christmas music. I mean, number one album. Not just domestically, but, like, globally, your albums have reached number one. Obviously, that ended up being a good decision. However, with having said that, I did want to ask, at any point, have you ever regretted turning Christmas into, like, a work thing?
- [78:13]
DK Metcalf
Oh, no, no, no. It's not a work thing at all. Can I ask you guys, seriously, is fantasy football a work thing for you guys?
- [78:22]
High Fitz
Sometimes when you have to watch a game on Christmas. Yeah.
- [78:26]
Danny Heifetz
When people are like, do I play Kyle Pitts or Jalen Waddle? And I'm like, I don't know.
- [78:30]
DK Metcalf
This is going to sound like it's. But this is really the truth. Okay. I love it. I love it. The world can suck. Be a very cynical place in a dark place. And I am invited into hundreds of millions of homes all over the planet in a time that is hugely important for me and my family, my kids, my faith and all that. And I'm invited in to celebrate this time where everybody's a little bit kinder. Love the. By the way, love the songs. Like, forget about it being holiday stuff. They're. Well, they're great songs. Like, they're great crafted songs. So I always dug it. And to be really honest, in a business sense, my heroes, the dudes that I loved, and ladies I love, like, when I look at, say, Elvis or Frank or Dean, there was always, like, the common denominator with them all was that each of them had, like, their. They had their holiday thing. Like, you're not going to be one of the great crooners, and if you don't have that, then you're meh. I mean, seriously, that's how I always. I mean, it was like growing up in my house. It was Bing and Elvis and Frank and was like, wow. You know? And by the way, I love all their other stuff, but, yeah, I never gets.
- [79:54]
High Fitz
Ever.
- [79:55]
DK Metcalf
And I love making fun of it. I love making fun of myself. It's funny, too, because my manager's in the other room, and they used to get mad because they. People like the company or whoever would always call on Mother's Day, and they'd go, oh, we need him to go and do the Today Show. We need them to go on Mother's Day. And then they started calling on Valentine's Day, and they were like, he's not just the Mother's Day guy or the Valentine's Day guy, you know? And then Christmas came, and now it's like, listen, it's. I just need to get. If I can just get a hold of Halloween. Right?
- [80:28]
High Fitz
Get your foot in the door.
- [80:29]
Craig Korbeck
Not much Thanksgiving music either. I do want to ask Thanksgiving.
- [80:33]
DK Metcalf
Thanksgiving might be the best of all the holidays. That might be the one. Yeah.
- [80:37]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. I mean, what we have? Planes, trains and automobiles. It's, like the only Thanksgiving movie. There's, like, really nothing else.
- [80:41]
DK Metcalf
It's kind of bizarre, you know, that. That's. You know, that's my fave.
- [80:44]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [80:45]
DK Metcalf
Fave movie. Of all. Yeah, that's that scene where John Candy at the end of the movie where Steve Martin realizes he's kind of. It all kind that. I think that might be one of the most beautiful scenes ever.
- [80:57]
Craig Korbeck
How do you.
- [80:58]
DK Metcalf
How do you decide a lot of. With this today?
- [81:01]
Craig Korbeck
This is exactly what we do at the end of the show. So you're. You're fitting in perfectly. I do. So wait, when you make the. When you decide to make a Christmas album, how do you decide how many songs you want to just cover versus originals? Like, is it. Is it kind of an extra badge of honor to be like, I made an original Christmas song. That's a banger?
- [81:17]
High Fitz
I don't know.
- [81:17]
DK Metcalf
I mean, it's so weird, guys, because, like, we're talking about an album that's 13 years old now. It'll probably be, you know, a big part of my legacy. And that'll, you know, 100 years from now when I'm unfrozen from the cryogenic chamber.
- [81:30]
High Fitz
Right, Right.
- [81:31]
Craig Korbeck
I will still be around you and Philip Rivers.
- [81:35]
DK Metcalf
Philip Rivers. Damn if I look as good as Philip Rivers does. Damn that dude. Can you believe that?
- [81:41]
Craig Korbeck
No.
- [81:41]
High Fitz
Hell, it's the weirdest thing.
- [81:43]
Craig Korbeck
He's a grandfather. He literally has a grandchild and he's.
- [81:45]
DK Metcalf
Starting in the NFL, by the way. By the way. It wasn't like he was playing like some weak D. Yeah, no, that was most definitely not in any of our.
- [81:56]
High Fitz
We were nervous.
- [81:57]
DK Metcalf
We did not know that was gonna happen.
- [81:58]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [81:59]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, I stupidly started Tyler Warren thinking that maybe there was a shot that Philip Rivers would throw him the ball and it. That was ill advised. I now know going forward that I don't think any Colts players are really viable for the rest of the season with Phil, unfortunately.
- [82:11]
DK Metcalf
Yeah.
- [82:12]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [82:12]
Craig Korbeck
Just how it goes.
- [82:13]
DK Metcalf
Are you okay, Craig?
- [82:16]
Craig Korbeck
I'm not okay, but.
- [82:17]
DK Metcalf
No, I know. I'm not even joking. Hey, dude, call me. We can talk. I need therapy for you.
- [82:23]
Craig Korbeck
It's actually crazy how angry. It's like road rage fantasy football. When you lose a close game, there's really nothing worse. Like, I got kicked out of the playoffs in my home league last night and there's just like, my wife texts me, like, what's up? How are you? And I'm like, pretty bad, honestly. I'm unreasonably angry and fantasy's unique that way.
- [82:43]
DK Metcalf
So I'm tonight going to be on the Voice. This is my second to last ever show watching my artists perform. And as nervous as I am about.
- [82:54]
Danny Heifetz
That.
- [82:56]
DK Metcalf
I am up 110 to 109. He has waddle and I have Pittsburgh's kicker, and.
- [83:07]
High Fitz
Oh, no.
- [83:07]
DK Metcalf
So just pray for me. Think about me.
- [83:10]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Can you check your phone during the taping? I would love to see that. Oh, my God.
- [83:18]
DK Metcalf
Yeah, I will be doing. Of course I will be. And by the way, those. Some of the. I won't say what, because I don't want to give it away, but some of the notifications, some of the. The apps and stuff, I mean, they're the reason, like, you know what I mean? Like, you know, that's why we get. I have to tell you, I picked up and Dropped Brian Robinson 62 times this last week. Oh, my God. It was like, oh, my God. He's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God. I got it. Oh, my God. Yeah.
- [83:47]
Danny Heifetz
So it drives you crazy. The last. The last thing I have to ask you before we let you go is. I know. Last. We were going back and forth about scheduling, and you played a concert for the Pope at the Vatican last week, and that is really cool. And it was for a good cause. And having said that, I actually really would like to start with. Is the Pope chill? Like, is he a good hang?
- [84:14]
DK Metcalf
I couldn't. I would. You know what? Here's what I will say. I would love to tell you that. To play it cool and say that, you know. Yeah, I was. It is the. It is. It was the most meaningful thing I've ever done in my life. And I. And probably I will ever do, you know, the Grammys, they'll come and go every year, as will the Academy Awards and, you know, other big moments. But that moment was. And I realized that when I was in the moment, that it was. It was really biggest honor I've ever. I've ever had. And this is what I'm gonna say to all of you. And. And I have my own thing, and so I'm not gonna ever push my. What I feel on you. But you. You three beautiful guys, all of us have this beautiful light inside us, you know, all of us do. And. And if you think about it and you're more present in that more often, I don't know. I think there's a. There's way more reason to be good and kind and not be scared. And, you know, so I just tried to think about that when I was there, and he was very, very sweet. Now, if I could go back, you know, in that moment, would I have asked him to pray for my fantasy team?
- [85:29]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [85:30]
High Fitz
I was going to ask if you were going to try and get In a league with him. Does he own or if he plays.
- [85:33]
Craig Korbeck
Fantasy, he can only draft Cardinals.
- [85:36]
Danny Heifetz
We're going to, we're going to put the Pope in a pancake house.
- [85:39]
DK Metcalf
24 hours draft Chicago guy. That's embarrassing.
- [85:42]
High Fitz
You have to spend 24 hours in the Sistine Chapel, man.
- [85:46]
DK Metcalf
My son.
- [85:50]
Danny Heifetz
That's amazing. Hey, thank you so much for doing this with us. We appreciate you tolerating our nonsense.
- [85:55]
DK Metcalf
Thank you. Good luck. Good luck going on. I can't wait to talk to you guys again. And just know when you give, give advice and stuff, I never blame you if it's wrong.
- [86:05]
Craig Korbeck
I understand.
- [86:06]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, you can.
- [86:06]
DK Metcalf
No one's perfect.
- [86:07]
High Fitz
We're. That's what we're here for. I know.
- [86:09]
Craig Korbeck
Honestly, we're like, yeah, that's the whole point. That's why we exist, so people don't have to blame themselves.
- [86:14]
High Fitz
You bring joy to people's lives, and then we can be blamed for all their troubles.
- [86:18]
Danny Heifetz
That's kind of like the role combination. Yeah, exactly. It's really about sharing the misery. Yeah.
- [86:23]
DK Metcalf
You guys are live. You guys are living a dream, man. You're living a dream. What a beautiful life, man. You get to do what you do. It's amazing. I mean, absolutely. How many dudes right now would die that that was their job. Like, best thing ever.
- [86:35]
Danny Heifetz
We'll switch sometime.
- [86:36]
DK Metcalf
I, I, I'll Michael Fabiano about it lots. I'm like, hey, man, he's like, you. We, you know, we talk about how much fun it would be to do something like this.
- [86:45]
Craig Korbeck
Well, if you want to come back during draft season in August, you just let us know.
- [86:49]
DK Metcalf
Cool. God, it's a long way away, gents.
- [86:52]
Danny Heifetz
Nine months. Awesome. Hey, thank you so much. Good luck with everything tonight and good luck to your league, the voice, and more importantly, your fantasy team.
- [86:58]
High Fitz
Yeah.
- [86:59]
Danny Heifetz
Thank you.
- [86:59]
DK Metcalf
Merry Christmas, boys.
- [87:18]
Danny Heifetz
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