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Super Bowl Propalooza, Raiders to Hire Kubiak, Arizona Hires LaFleur, and 'Sex and the City' Finale Reactions
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Commercial Narrator
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
My guys, we did it.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We're here.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. Not in San Francisco, but we're here together.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Close.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, we're very close.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We're in the state of California.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. Which is San Francisco to LA is like what North Carolina to New York on the east coast it is quite a way.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Eight hour drive.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, that's.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, the super bowl is here next year so we're early.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's right.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You think about we're going to get.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The best spot at Radio Row next year. If we get there now.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Camping out like new year's Eve, Times Square. Okay, we're going to go through prop bets, we're going to go through emails, going to go through some coaching news. But first, quick reminder, we are here all day off season too. So if you're listening to us for super bowl week, we still go twice a week after the Super Bowl. DK is a draft expert, going to be in the combine or in a few weeks covering the draft, trades, free agency, all that jazz. And then also, most importantly, Craig, who came in last place in the ring of Fantasy Football League this year.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Technically, but I had the same record as the guy who won the league, only.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, he came in last by the rules. He was the one who decided the format.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
We decided the format.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Not really, because you were complaining about it like you weren't part of it.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's good for content to complain, right?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, speaking so Craig's punishment is he can't do caffeine for a week, which sucks because he doesn't drink coffee. But he does drink Matcha. So we wanted DK and I. Cheers. We're going to drink matcha.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I can't wait for both you to be like this. Tastes like dirt.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's the finest matcha I've ever had.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It does kind of taste like dirt a little bit. I have had matcha before, though.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's not ceremonial grade.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, it's not quite.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But anyway, let's just get to it. So we're going to go through all the profits, but first, there's some news that's happened before. We take is just drinking the.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'm.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Going to bring a quesadilla tomorrow in front of dk.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's pretty good, Dick. Roll us through the news here.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, we got a lot of stuff. We got a lot of stuff. Let's start out with the Raiders hiring. Hiring your guy. Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator of the Seahawks, doesn't worry me whatsoever that he was having several interviews over the weekend, not really paying attention to this game that's coming up, instead doing interviews. That doesn't worry me at all. So just. I'm going to get ahead of that a little bit.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, he's interviewed and putting together a staff before the big.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'm not worried.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It really is. There's kind of no way to fix this because it sucks that he is interviewing while preparing for the Super Bowl. That doesn't make any sense. But then there's also these teams whose season ended a month ago and they need to make changes and get started. So you kind of need to be able to interview a coach. So it is just like a catch 22 that you can't kind of solve. So it is a bummer. But I don't know what a solution is.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You're never going to have like billionaire owners of teams with their $10 billion companies not trying to poach talent for a month after the season ends, but you're also never going to have them not purs suing the coaches on the best teams that go. Totally.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But it's like everyone's got to wait a month and then you can all start interviewing. That'll never happen.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But I also understand why, like when a couple, a few years, the first time the Eagles Chiefs played in the super bowl and then like Jonathan Gannon's the defensive coordinator, the game's in Arizona and the Arizona Cardinals are poaching Jonathan Gannon all week. And they to the point where the Cardinals actually got fined and had to give the Eagles a third round pick for tampering. And then the Cardinals give up, or, sorry, the Eagles give up 38 points in the super bowl to the Chiefs and you're like, oh, imagine if you'd spent like two more hours.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
This is the second straight Seahawks to Raiders coaching hire, right?
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, Pete Carroll. Oh, yeah, he did. I think he took a year off.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Second time's a charm.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. From, from Kubiak's point of view, do you guys like this move by him? My thought initially was he probably could have done the Ben Johnson thing, wait a year, come back another season, have like a pretty good offense with the Seahawks and have like his pick of the litter, so to speak, potentially.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But he gets the number one pick in the draft, right?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He gets Mendoza. I think this is the best spot for qb.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But the Raiders are not a stable or.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, but this is. It is though, because this is the reverse. Now the tuxedos actually seem kind of cool, like, because now that it's Tom Brady running the team. But you have Fernando Mendoza now it's cool because now you have Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer, tight end, you have Genti, you have Mendoza. Now you need two to three offensive linemen. Colton Miller, left tackle, solid. And I still think Jackson Pyrus Johnson's good in the interior. But the defense, honestly, man, whatever. They should trade Max Crosby, but like for culture, you can keep him. But the point is you get Mendoza, you bring him in, he's good. And if Kubiak makes Mendoza good now it's like Tom Brady actually personally mentoring Mendoza, like Karate Kid style. It's this is such a better plan than the oldest coach in the NFL having the worst team try to build. With Geno smith, it was 36. This is. This is a real plan.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I do think. I agree. It's. I mean, it's quick. I mean, he rose up. I mean, he hasn't been calling plays for a long time. I mean, he went from, like Saints to Seahawks. One year at the Seahawks to head coach of the Raiders. It all happened very suddenly.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But, like, how often is it that you get the number one pick in the draft and it's somebody who I think people feel pretty good about. You know what I mean?
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Higher floor type of quarterback.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. Kim. Word. It was kind of like, who knows? He's kind of more of a default number one guy. Mendoza. You know, I don't know if he's Caleb Williams level, but he does feel like somebody who you can build around. And obviously Clint Kubiak feels the same way.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, Clint Kubiak, I mean, he got 14 wins at a Darnold this regular season. We had never seen that before because.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
We have last year.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. But I got that he did make Derek Carr on hate more matcha.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You got to keep up.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I will say.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I have to admit, fine.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Why do I have to drink more money?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I have to admit.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, you don't want it?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I took another sip of the matcha and I'll admit I've had matcha with you before. It's good, this matcha. I almost vomited on the. It's. It's not the best matcha. I like.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Hope the guy who made that.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, it's not him. It's just the quality. You joked with the quality of the matcha.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But where'd you get the matcha? At the toilet store? Anyway, other news, DK, the Cardinals hire Mike LaFleur. LaFleur. One of the other LaFleur brothers. The brother of Matt. Mike LaFleur, who is 38 years old. He had. The Cardinals basically ran out of options. No offense to Michael Fleur. Everybody else decided to take other jobs.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And Clint Kubiak chose the Raiders. So they took another guy who's kind of in that world.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Like, bottom line, that's what happened. Yeah, I mean, they'll tell you, that's not what happened.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They close their eyes, they threw a dart at anybody on the Rams coaching staff, and they're like, we'll take him.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is like another one of those proximity to Sean McVeigh things. Still alive and well. He was the offensive coordinator for the Rams.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What's going to happen when, like, actually 80% of the league is just people who coached under Sean McVeigh.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's getting close.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, it's kind of crazy.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's all. It's all the Shanahan McVay tree and it's kind of all spreading. Obviously. Michael Fleur actually also came up under Shanahan in Cleveland, went to Atlanta with Shanahan, then to San Francisco when. When Robert Sala was named the head coach in New York to. For the jets, he brought LaFleur to be his offensive coordinator. Two seasons in New York, the Jets were second to last in scoring during that stretch. I think it's hard to not last. Not last. That was with Zach Wilson, Mike White and Joe Flacco at quarterback those two seasons. So it's kind of hard to figure out what exactly he brings to the table. But again, I'm sure he has learned a lot under Sean McVeigh and Shanahan. And so, you know, this is one of those that I think the name value certainly helps. Matt Lawyer is a really good coach.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What an incestuous division now, because other than the Seahawks, now the NFC west is McVeigh and Kyle Shanahan, who are really good friends, and now Michael Fleur. And all these guys have just kind of known each other for like 20 years. But he's like.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's like the group chat. Everyone's a coach in the NFL.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's like the whole squad got famous.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Right.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's bizarre. But, I mean, they all came up in the NFL. You know, these guys have been coaching for a while, like Matt LaFleur or Michael Flair. Only 38 years old, but he's been, you know, to a bunch of teams already. I think in terms of situations. Arizona, the reason they're the last team to hire somebody is because they're one of the worst situations. Bad ownership group, or at least that's what you've heard from the NFLPA reports over the last couple of years. The quarterback situation is a mess. Kyler Murray, we don't know exactly what's going on with him. And so, you know, and they've been really bad, honestly, over the last couple of years. I looked it up. They have. They're 20 and 39 and one in the NFC west in the last decade. They have one playoff game in that stretch and they got their asses kicked by the Rams. So this is a. This is a tough situation to go to.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This is a rebuild because. And no one gives a shit. The Cardinals are like the Dolphins, where It's like when they're really bad, no one cares because it's really nice and cool to be in Arizona or Miami where it's like they're actually quietly maybe a notch above like the. Maybe not the Browns, but like they're kind of like some shitty teams. But people feel worse when cold cities are bad. But no one cares.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
In the Cardinals, it is weirdly maybe the worst spot in the league right now to coach. Like, the Kyler Murray situation's a mess. He's getting paid a ton of money and, you know, he's not the guy that's really hard. He's under contract still. And then not only.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You got to figure it out pretty quickly, too.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes. And in your division, you go, you're going up against the Niners, the Seahawks and the Rams.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's the Dragon meme. It is like the three, three really tough, badass looking dragons.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Like, I don't know what you talk yourself into. It's like, I don't have the quarterback. I don't have anything to really build, and I'm in the hardest division in football.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's the thing with Michael for getting this job. I think if we learned something about last coaching cycle is the best candidates do actually seem to have confidence in themselves to take good jobs. Like Liam Cohen went to Trevor Lawrence and Vrabel was like, I didn't come here for the Patriots. I came here for Drake May. And then you have Ben Johnson waiting for Caleb Williams. And then you have other situations where if a guy's willing to take the Cardinals job, he's like, I might not get this.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
LaFleur's probably like, there might not be 10 new coaching openings next year. Let's be honest, this is maybe my shot. I mean, I think he's been kind of in the disguise session for a couple years, so maybe this was inevitable. But yeah, I think this is. It's a tough situation. I think being the really by far worst team in the division is the hardest part of this. I think they can figure out the quarterback situation.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Worst team in the division. It is the best division.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's. Yeah. And the last thing I'll say about just the head coaching openings, it's worth noting that 10 now, 10 openings happen and 10 openings have been filled as head coaches and no black coaches were hired.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So it's worth noting the disparity. We don't have to get into the entire, you know, structural issues in the NFL, but it's worth noting the disparities. I believe roughly 60% of the players in the NFL are black. And now the only black coaches in the head coaches in the NFL now are Todd Bowles, who's 62, D' Amigo Ryan's, and then Aaron Glenn, who frankly, I don't know if he's got another full year left with the Jets. There's only three. So you got one out of ten head coaches are black and six out of ten players are black. So the disparity widened even though there were 10 openings.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Kyler Murray guaranteed $40 million in 2026.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But when you say guarantee, this is from Spotrac.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
39.8 million of his 2026 salary is already guaranteed. 17 million of his 2027 salary locks in March 15th.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. So they need to ship him out before that.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think the cap hit. If a team were. Yeah, it'd be 42 million in 2026. 36 million in 2027.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So the thing long, I think they have a couple days to. When it's like three days after the league year. Basically. They have like a 72 hour window to not pay them that money.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So I think he's gonna get cut or traded. I don't even know where he goes. We could do that. When? After the Super Bowl. We can go through just all those teams where Kyler's gonna go because it's shouldn't stay.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Probably not.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
There's not a lot of landing spots anymore where I feel like he would go.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I mean, Miami. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. Honestly, the irony is, like, if he weren't in Arizona, we'd be like, he should go to Arizona. So I don't really know what he's gonna do. You know, one cool thing is the Giants hired Matt Nagy for offensive coordinator. I thought that was pretty sick. Didn't you guys?
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You like that?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, no, it's great.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He wasn't in the Epstein file, so that was a win.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I know, I know. Well, I actually. Do you know, so far.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Did you check?
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Actually, no, I did not. I was assuming.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Maybe I'll check right now.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Maybe stupidly.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Here, let me search.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Pulled up.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
They're all pulled up.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Command.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, I have to hit. I'm not a robot to go into the doj.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's all it takes is just. Nope, I'm not. They're like, cool.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You know, it's funny, I'm on the DOJ website trying to search the Epstein files and the first question is, are you 18 years or older?
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's important.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, yeah, I understand the irony in that.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay, okay.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So high. Fitz, first reaction I, I see in the doc here you have just written.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Down, man, my, my first reaction when the Giants hired Matt Nagy was genuinely was like a deep sigh.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I just, Matt Nagy's just such an uninspiring choice. I mean, first of all, the Raven, the we're going to take Todd Monkin as the offensive coordinator who was with, you know, Todd Monkin was a coordinator for the Ravens. And people say whatever you want about Todd Monkin. Like, Lamar won an MVP in his first season of Todd Monkin, and then maybe was better the next year.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I thought that would have been a great hire.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And there, I don't know. I kind of like when guys in their 50s or 60s are still kind of cutting edge with offense and stuff. And you could quibble, but, like, I don't know, I, I, that would have been exciting, but Todd Monka got the Browns job, so they had to start from scratch. The fact that Matt Nagy and the Chiefs like Matt Nagy has worked for Candy Reid for a long time, and I'm sure that's like the origins of this is like, John Harbaugh is an old Andy Reid guy. Matt Nagy's been with Andy Reid forever. I'm sure they go back a long time. But that's my thing is I think it's more about, like, trust. And I know this guy and I believe, take Andy Reid's word, but Andy Reid himself decided that they weren't going to work together anymore. And so it's like Matt and Aggie, I think they were like, oh, yeah, I want play calling, I want head coaching. But it's like the Titans were going to hire Matt Nagy and then they got Robert Stahl in the building. They're like, oh, we love this guy. And Nagy, the most charitable thing you could say is he had a solid season with Trubisky, and then like, that was a bad deck of cards he got dealt.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But first year in Chicago, he went 12 and four with Trubisky, won the.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Division double doink game.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That was a very good defense.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Went 8, 8 each of the next two years, and then went 6 and 11 with Fields his rookie season and has not been a head coach since. Could you make the case that this is a guy, right, who has learned from Andy Reid who you trust and like a Josh McDaniel or something like that? Like, maybe he could be the offensive coordinator for a while. You don't have to worry about, like, an in and out.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, he's so shitty no one will poach him.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Do you believe that? If I mean, as a guy who's been under the Chiefs for, you know, seven of the last 10 years?
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I don't know, I, I is the boring answer. I don't know how much credit to give Matt Nagy for like Patrick Mahomes or whatever. Like first he was with the Bears when he got developed. Anyway, I don't know, I think it's a little how uninspiring and frankly like bad the Chiefs offense has been for like years. Like we're being honest, the Chiefs defense kind of got them to a couple of those Super Bowls and mom said to make some stuff happen. But it actually reminds me kind of like the Eli Super Bowls where it was like the Giants offense at times was at its best in two minute drill. And it's like the Chiefs, when they're winning, how many games do they win in the last play of the game two years ago? Six. Six times. Like, I don't know, I look at Matt Nagy and I mean, did we.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Just blow past the thing here that the Chiefs literally were just like, yeah, we're not going to have you be. Yeah, we're not going to have you anymore.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
They're like, we should go our separate ways. And they can spin that as like, oh, now you.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Replaced him with some guy that wasn't on their staff. So it wasn't even, you know, it.
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Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Was a internal thing.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right. So. And I remember, you know, Reed was talking about this in interviews. He was saying essentially the reason they brought back the enemy is because he's like going to be more honest to the players.
- [16:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And no, he's screen. He's the fucking right.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's like, he is like a. Andy.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Reid's good guy, you know.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, he's going to be mean. He's going to be a like a drill sergeant essentially.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's exactly.
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And get them in like whip them into shape. Like what does that say about Nagy? I mean I, maybe that's not what Jackson Dart needs, but I think it is just bizarre that we're, you know, he literally just left.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What the hell happened with Sean Payton?
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Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, this is something that happened a while ago, a couple days ago, but we haven't really talked about it. I thought it was very interesting and a little bit bizarre. Basically in Denver, Sean Payton had a, you know, end of season press conference and in that press conference he talked about Bo Nix's ankle. And basically what he said, quote, what was found was a condition that was Predisposed. They always find a little more when they go in.
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Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, wait, do we have. We have the audio.
- [17:39]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We have some audio. Hold on, let me finish this, though. And then so basically he said, Peyton said it wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when. That's what he. That was his read on the ankle injury. Basically, this was always going to happen. And then he said something even weirder, which. We've got the audio here.
- [17:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He said he had one in high.
- [17:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
School, and then he said he had one at Auburn.
- [17:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And I said, I didn't realize that.
- [18:01]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I said, if I'd have known that.
- [18:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I wouldn't have drafted you. But he's a tough rise up for the next challenge, and we'll go from there.
- [18:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
When you say he had one, he.
- [18:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Means ankle surgeries, ankle injury, ankle surgery. And, you know, the little laugh. He's like, I wouldn't have drafted you.
- [18:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But then Bo Nix responded and was like, he shouldn't speak on my surgeries. He doesn't know what he's talking about.
- [18:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, he said. He said a quote. I don't think he should really share how many surgeries I've had in the. In the past, to be honest with you. He doesn't even really know that, man. Not great vibes from a team that lost in depressing fashion in the title game.
- [18:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Not the best thing to say to your quarterback who just broke his ankle that, like, wouldn't have drafted you if I knew you had this problem. That's reassuring. Thanks, coach.
- [18:48]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It strikes me, this is the worst.
- [18:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Day of my life.
- [18:49]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, it strikes me so much because he, He. He sandwiched it in between. He's a man. He's a man of God. He believes God has a plan for him.
- [18:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes.
- [18:57]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
If I would have known about this, I wouldn't have drafted this fucking bum. You know, more or less he said that. And, you know, it just kind of got me thinking. Maybe that relationship isn't all that strong. Something that Heifetz had alluded to in the past.
- [19:10]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But I feel like that's just Sean Payton. Right? It's like Sean Payton's. Is Sean Payton's relationship with anybody that strong?
- [19:15]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Everybody. Everybody hates this guy.
- [19:17]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, but here's the thing. Sean Payton. There is no coach that is more calculated with how they interact with the media. And even if sometimes it's emotional or big dick swinging, like when Sean Payton talks to the media, like it's with purpose, I think it can come off as, oh, he's just talking off the cuff.
- [19:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So what's he trying to communicate here that he has.
- [19:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think he's laying the groundwork for.
- [19:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Fucking Knicks ain't the guy.
- [19:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think Bo Nixon, Sean Payton, like, I think they kind of hate each other and it was papered over by a 13 game winning streak.
- [19:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [19:46]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And winning fixes everything. Look what happens. They lose one game, look what happens. Like, I'm just saying, like this is the, like that happens all the time in every sport. Team sports, winning fixes everything and then losing things come out. They lost one game and then again we talk all the time like you lose a Super bowl, they were the ones come apart. Yeah. And the closer you get, the more painful it is. You got Kevin Durant to your freaking warriors and Thunder lost in the Western Conference finals. Like the closer you get and you don't get there, the more painful it is. This is like a subset of when we say losing the super bowl breaks teams not making a Super bowl the way the Broncos didn't make the Super Bowl. Like you start shifting blame. I'm just saying, I think middle of the season Bo Nix and Sean Payton had issues and then they won 12 straight games. It was after that Raiders Broncos game where they won like 10, 6. It was like the worst game of the entire year. And then they won 12 straight games and it never came up again. But I think they have issues and I think that's not some off the cuff comment. This is so reminiscent of there's issues.
- [20:38]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's very reminiscent of the way he was sort of talking about Russell Wilson in the media and he's like annoyed with him and everything.
- [20:44]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
There was also moments during the season where Bo Nix and him were yelling at each other on the sidelines that.
- [20:47]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You clearly screaming because Sean Payton, so whatever he old now, he takes 12 seconds to call his like 100 word play. And Bo Nix will get me the play the only way.
- [20:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Filibustering the play call.
- [20:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. They also fired their offensive coordinator, Joe Lombardi and then promoted the quarterbacks coach, Davis Webb, because I think he was getting a coordinator job somewhere. So they kind of had to ax Lombardi and they'd rather keep Joe Lombardi than let Davis Webb go. But it's also, I think Jay Gruden posted this where it's like imagine being Joe Lombardi and you almost got a backup quarterback to the super bowl. But then Sean Payton makes the decision to kick a to go front and fourth instead of going up to nothing. And then Sean Payton, like instead of taking a 10 nothing lead, turns it over on Downs. And then Joe Lombardi gets fired. And anyway, it's.
- [21:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I love all these. Yeah, there's a lot of people that are willing to kind of go on the record.
- [21:30]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's just like, Peyton has just terrible interpersonal skills. Like, he's a great play caller and a great mind, but, like, he has idea how to have relationships. Saying that at a press conference. And you're right, and maybe it is deliberate and he's trying to just, like, say, you to B. Knicks, but that's just terrible.
- [21:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What I. There's. There's been some funny conspiracy theories about this Knicks thing happening.
- [21:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Should I type them into the website?
- [21:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, sure. Make sure you hit the 18. No, but basically there was some report last year, last week or whatever, or two weeks ago that he actually hurt himself celebrating in the locker room, which was, I think, demonstrably false. You could see him wincing in on the sideline. He totally could, but. And then there was also. I think this is funny in my tinfoil hat thing, is that Peyton actually really wanted to start Stidham just to prove that he was the greatest coach alive. He's like, I could take it back.
- [22:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This is. Every coach does this. This is like Jon Gruden when he was with the Raiders, signed fricking Nathan Peterman. Just because all coaches want to do is prove that other coaches misuse players, but they know how to do it. Okay, should we get to prop bets?
- [22:32]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Let's do it. There's a Super Bowl.
- [22:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
There is a Super Bowl. I don't know if you guys have heard. So we're gonna go through the prop bets and again, if you don't know what prop bets are, they're kind of like if you wanted to lose money in even more spectacular ways.
- [22:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I do.
- [22:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Let's do so.
- [22:46]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Or win. Or win large totals.
- [22:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Look, you know, we're talking about gambling here. You gotta understand, like, sometimes you gotta look at the stuff as, you know, sometimes you're not putting down bets and gambling. You're. You're spending. You're spending to auxiliary, you know, to acc. Accentuate your time. You're having a better time.
- [23:02]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You're putting a coin in and getting up on the ride and going up and down and around.
- [23:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You're having fun.
- [23:07]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's all good things.
- [23:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You might not make the money back. Having said that, we are going to win money on this because the coin toss is where I want to start. And you can bet money on the coin toss. It's a. You put down a dollar with 95 cents for heads or tails. Forgetting super bowl for a second, when you guys actually call a toss, what do you call?
- [23:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Heads?
- [23:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Heads for sure. Meet you tails guy.
- [23:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, just whatever comes.
- [23:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Tails never fails.
- [23:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Wow.
- [23:30]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I have no formula.
- [23:31]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I've called heads every time since I was 6. I don't think I've called tails in my entire life.
- [23:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And you've won 50 of the time.
- [23:38]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Since you were 6. What does that mean?
- [23:40]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Exactly 6.
- [23:41]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You remember the first coin toss?
- [23:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, I think I lost torn toss in kindergarten, actually. I'm never kidding.
- [23:46]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'm not kidding. I actually was flipping coins with Calvin the other day for the first time ever.
- [23:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Betting the coin toss is the perfect encapsulation of gambling because there's like, there is literally no edge. And it's like you can bet a dog card can win 96 cents. Like, you don't even get an even return. And it's still like, yeah, I'm going to do it.
- [24:03]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
There's something meta about.
- [24:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's great. It's, it's also funny because they don't even do heads and tails. They do like, here's one side. It's like the afc.
- [24:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is shield.
- [24:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [24:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So you heads though, right?
- [24:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, I don't know. Maybe it'll be tails.
- [24:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Stop.
- [24:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It can't be.
- [24:20]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It could be tails.
- [24:22]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay, fine. I, I, I suggest.
- [24:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So what are we?
- [24:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think we should build a ringer fantasy football show prop sheet. Yeah, like, like we're locking in a mock draft to see how many things you hit.
- [24:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
We're locking in heads, but all right. Obviously I'm kidding about the heads, tails thing. Like, you know, who knows? However, actually though, we're going to win is the national anthem.
- [24:41]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, my God. We're starting there. I would love to.
- [24:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. So let's get in the national.
- [24:44]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Craig's whole year builds up to this.
- [24:46]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. Charlie Puth is singing the national anthem this year.
- [24:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So funny. I've never said their name out loud. And I was waiting for you to do it because I didn't you explain to or Poth or put. I didn't. I've never said.
- [24:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You've never heard the name Charlie Puth? I've read it.
- [24:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I didn't know how to confidence to say it out loud. I was a little afraid.
- [25:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How is that possible?
- [25:01]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's. The spelling is ridiculous.
- [25:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
P U, T. I'm just saying. How, how have you never heard.
- [25:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Why is that ridiculous?
- [25:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's not about that. It's how have you ever heard his name? If I said Puth and it wasn't Puth I would never hear the fucking end of it.
- [25:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I guess it could be puff.
- [25:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Could it, though? I just.
- [25:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Hold on.
- [25:16]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Spelled that with uth.
- [25:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I guess I don't have an issue with him saying I don't know how to spell it. I think it's remarkable that he's never heard the name Charlie Puth out loud. Spoken him. That's crazy.
- [25:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He doesn't come up a lot.
- [25:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He's very famous. What are you talking about?
- [25:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, that's what I was gonna ask.
- [25:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He sings the Fast and furious song we've been talking about for a month.
- [25:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's him.
- [25:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes.
- [25:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
A long time.
- [25:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
See you again. Yes, that's him.
- [25:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I knew I know somewhere.
- [25:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I didn't.
- [25:37]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I knew I knew him from somewhere.
- [25:38]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Wait, can you explain?
- [25:40]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Can you explain to an elder millennial who Charlie Puth is.
- [25:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Hold on. I'm tone deaf. I.
- [25:45]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
To a young millennial who Charlie.
- [25:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Darryl. What is it? What's the word they use for a really old millennial?
- [25:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Geriatric.
- [25:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Geriatric millennials.
- [25:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Saved by the bell. Millennial. Bpc.
- [25:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I mean, he's just like a. He's a singer, songwriter, Paul Walker song.
- [25:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But isn't he. Doesn't he do something on Instagram where he's known Tick Tock, where he's like.
- [26:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He's kind of like a musical savant. He can create songs out of random sounds. He's very good. He's made, like, the last few years on Tick tock, he's gotten really, really popular because he can, like. He shows people how to make songs from their bedroom.
- [26:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He's really good at it.
- [26:14]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay, doesn't he have some crazy ability, like pitch?
- [26:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, he can go really high.
- [26:22]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I can't remember. There's like, something where he can recognize pitch, and only a certain segment of people can do that.
- [26:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, interesting. Yeah, he's like a musical savant, right? He's really good voice.
- [26:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like, he can register, like, hear sounds other people can't hear.
- [26:32]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He could be like, that's a C sharp or something. I don't know.
- [26:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's cool.
- [26:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But, yeah.
- [26:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Anyway, I don't really get pitch.
- [26:38]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, you're tone deaf.
- [26:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I know. Anyway, but if so, can I hum it? Because I'll get it wrong.
- [26:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And we transform the see you again song.
- [26:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [26:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The lawyers are like, that is fine. No, no way. Problems there.
- [26:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No one could identify that.
- [26:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay, so let's get into it. National anthem.
- [26:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Sorry?
- [26:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How long will it take Charlie Puth to sing the national anthem? The line currently is 121 and a half seconds. So 2.2 minutes, 1 second and a half. He's never sang the National Anthem on a large stage before. Like, we. There's really no example of him doing this.
- [27:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
- [27:12]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
However. So I don't know if you guys remember last year when we watched in the. The Spotify theater, we were freaking out about John Baptiste. His line was about the same. It was two minutes. What was one second less? And he literally went right through it. He went exactly two minutes.
- [27:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right?
- [27:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And it was. I don't even remember which side they landed on, but it was right on it. Because you couldn't really tell with him. With Batiste.
- [27:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Charlie Puth, his name spelled like it sounds.
- [27:35]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Baptiste. Yeah, sure. Puth has been doing interviews about this that I've been watching. He was. He had an interview with Ryan Seacrest and what he. He. He's the second person to ever sing the National Anthem at the super bowl since, other than Whitney Houston. And he wants to do a nod to Whitney Houston.
- [27:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What? Wait, sorry, say that again. He's the second what?
- [27:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He's the second New Jersey native.
- [27:56]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, New Jersey.
- [27:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Other than Whitney Houston. And so he said he wants this to be a nod to Whitney Houston in a way. I'm not really sure what that means, but what he said was he's like, I don'. People think of me as a vocalist and I want them to.
- [28:09]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's about to see me as a vocal guy. He's about to waste a lot of our time.
- [28:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He's the guy. Yeah, he's the guy karaoke who's like, I'm gonna do Sleep Dion. I'm like, okay, it's about you.
- [28:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's gonna have like a little fills here and there. He's gonna go on this little whole tangent.
- [28:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He said, I want to show people I can do it. People don't think as me of me as a vocalist. It's going to be very good.
- [28:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
With respect, he got picked to sing at the Super Bowl. Like, clearly they think of you as a vocalist.
- [28:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Don't people think of him as a vocalist?
- [28:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, you thought him. What did you think of. You thought of. Of him as like a little tick tock guy.
- [28:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Pitch Instagram guy.
- [28:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, that's fair.
- [28:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So pitch Instagram. The problem is, sure, you can say you want a nod to Whitney Houston. Whitney Houston is like the greatest voice in the history of the world. It's pretty hard to match that. And I watched hers, and hers was 1 minute and 56 seconds, so 5 seconds shorter than the line.
- [28:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, so this is like the Seahawks. The Seahawks could win but cover. He could beat Whitney Houston but come short of the number.
- [28:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So I actually think I like the under. If he wants to try to match her style, maybe he won't, like, embellish and take his time and he'll honor her and sing it the way she did. So I think I kind of like the under. Also, I don't think he has the pipes of Whitney Houston, so I don't think he can hang. Hang on those notes for super long. The piano thing is interesting. If he plays the piano, I don't.
- [29:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Know if that will slow down fucking around on the.
- [29:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But the piano.
- [29:19]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Houston not on piano.
- [29:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But isn't the most basic thing here is I don't care who you are. You said he's never seen the national anthem at any event.
- [29:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Not to my knowledge.
- [29:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Just going to do the Super Bowl. Isn't it like he'll be nervous and speed it up? Like you don't slow it down when you're nervous. Realistically, your process speeds up.
- [29:34]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think that's right. I don't know. I don't know. Maybe he won't be nervous because the other one.
- [29:37]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I don't think he can be nervous.
- [29:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's true. The other one here is, will he forget Will Charlie Puth. That's so funny. P U T H. Puth. Will any word be forgotten? No. Is it just me?
- [29:46]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yes.
- [29:47]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You think it should be puth?
- [29:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I was worried it was.
- [29:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Do you think it should be puth?
- [29:53]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, puth is just puth. I don't know. Just fun to say Puth. All right. The point is, will any words be forgotten or omitted? Yes. It's five to one. And if you're nervous, you've never done it before, the odds go up. But that would shorten it.
- [30:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
True. That would shorten it. I think I like the under. Whitney Houston, minute 56, first time doing it.
- [30:13]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Do you know what the. Do you know what the average over under is? Is it always the same?
- [30:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, it changes over here.
- [30:19]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I know. So, like, is this a higher low?
- [30:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think it's a little low.
- [30:22]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay.
- [30:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And the line has dropped. It was like 2 minutes and 5 seconds, and it's now down to 2 minutes.
- [30:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And really. Wow. God, this is.
- [30:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
All right, so a lot of stake here.
- [30:31]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We're taking the under.
- [30:32]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I like the under.
- [30:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay. Under and heads. Okay. Super bowl mvp.
- [30:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Wait, there's one more national anthem thing I want to hit, but I saw this. Who will be shown first during the national anthem? Stefan Diggs or Jackson Smith in Jigba I just kind of think the broadcast is going in Jigba. I think that's for multiple reasons. Like, not only isn't Jigba a better player, but perhaps for other things going on behind the scenes with Stefan Diggs. I'm like, I just don't know if they're going to show him during the national anthem. It's even odds. I would take injigba.
- [30:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Can you bet if someone's going to cry during the national anthem?
- [31:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You have to bet on individual. I think the crying.
- [31:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Do you think. Yeah. Do you think we're gonna have.
- [31:07]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, for sure.
- [31:09]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I think we're gonna have a crier. I think they find the crier and then show.
- [31:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Find. Who do you think the crier is?
- [31:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
John Schneider.
- [31:17]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's usually, like, Seahawks gm.
- [31:20]
Guest or Minor Speaker
No way.
- [31:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He's not gm.
- [31:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's gonna.
- [31:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think it's usually a hard defensive player. Like, it's scary when you see, like, a. Like a bad.
- [31:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's gonna be some, like, backup tank DeMarcus Lawrence.
- [31:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. Tank Lawrence just sheds a tear. You're like, this game's over.
- [31:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Do you remember who was the. The Broncos running back?
- [31:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The craziest tear I've ever.
- [31:37]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Swelling up in his eyes.
- [31:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Fire hydrant.
- [31:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Also, Schneider was there for the other Super Bowls, so it's like, why is he crying, right? I don't know. It's got to be a player who's there for the first time.
- [31:49]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's just my gut feeling.
- [31:50]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay.
- [31:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I. I think they probably won't show.
- [31:53]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So anyway, if you see the bet, JSN or Diggs, who they show first, Go, go, jsn.
- [31:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
All right.
- [31:59]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So speaking of JSN MVP odds, dk, you texted me earlier today that you like Jackson, Smith and Jake, but the receiver for Seattle and MVP at, like, call it five to one.
- [32:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, I think there's a strong chance. And just the way that he's been playing, the piece he plays in their.
- [32:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Offense, 8th most yards.
- [32:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Incredible. And the Patriots over the season have not been very good against number one receivers. So that's kind of the end of the analysis. I mean, there's not really much more to it.
- [32:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay. All right, here's my fear concise.
- [32:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Can I give you my fear?
- [32:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, of course.
- [32:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
If Jackson, Smith and Jigba has a good enough game to be considered mvp, that probably means Sam Darnold also had a lot of yards and touchdowns and usually then just goes to the quarterback. Like, it would have to be a very specific situation for and Jigba to have like, 160 yards and two touchdowns. But Darnold has a mediocre game where they wouldn't give it to Darnold.
- [32:47]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You know what I mean?
- [32:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. But if you.
- [32:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Same game parlay. We parlayed Darnold to throw a pick with jsn.
- [32:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right. That's kind of what I was.
- [32:53]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It would have to be kind of like a. Darnold throws for 230 yards, two touchdowns and a pick. And most of those yards just go to jsn.
- [32:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
- [32:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Which I guess is possible, but it's hard. I mean, obviously it mostly just goes to quarterbacks. So JSN would have to have a uniquely incredible game and Darnold would have to be pretty mediocre.
- [33:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I gotta be honest. I think the mvp. I like some of the odds in this game, but I think the MVP odds kind of suck. Like, I actually would almost. Like, I'm looking at some of the odds, like JSN at five to one. All these things.
- [33:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Take Darnold or Drake May.
- [33:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Darnold or Drake May. The other thing I like.
- [33:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, actually, I think you should take Devin Witherspoon.
- [33:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
There we go.
- [33:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, I'm not kidding. I kind of almost want to bet ON Once every five to 10 years, they do give the MVP to a defender who, like, does a pick six.
- [33:32]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Like, they give it to what's his name in New England when they last played.
- [33:36]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Believe it.
- [33:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But believe it or not, no, he didn't get it.
- [33:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, that's because they vote before the fucking game ends. No, Brady. Actually, that Brady got it and he should.
- [33:44]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Malcolm Butler didn't win that year.
- [33:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, but they definitely had already voted mvp. But Brady was the mvp. That was, like, actually one of Brady.
- [33:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It was Brady that year.
- [33:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But.
- [33:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And I remember talking about that. It's because they vote before. Right, right, right.
- [33:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, this is, like, so insane, dude. Yeah, people know what I'm talking about. The Super Bowl MVP is voted by the people who are at. Like, there's certain credentialed media members that get to vote, but they also want to get on the elevator to go down to the press conference.
- [34:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Like, pencils down in the final three minutes of the game. Which makes no sense because that's when the game is decided. Exactly.
- [34:10]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So the super bowl security is so hard to get down the elevator that, like, I once. My apple watch.
- [34:14]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They need to change this rule.
- [34:16]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The Rams won. I'm not trying to take Cooper Cup Super Bowl MVP away, but we were at that game in the press box, and when Aaron Donald scored, tackled Joe Burrow on fourth down to end the game and sacked him and stands up and is like ring me pointing his ring finger. Which is like the coolest celebration I've ever seen. Everyone had already voted for the or half the people had voted for Cooper cup already. I'm like, I kind of think Aaron Donald should win the award. But people were in the elevator and so that's kind of. Anyway, Malcolm Smith had a pick six for the Seahawks when they beat the Broncos. He got the mvp. I think Dexter Jackson for the Bucks at a pick six like this is 20 years ago and got the MVP. But I kind of just. I don't know, man. Ernest Jones, some of these random CX defenders are like 150 or 200 to 1. And I'm like, I don't know, man.
- [34:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So here, here's a scenario where and this is kind of. This goes along with what I think the game is going to kind of look like. And it the Patriots, Rams, super bowl from whatever year that was 20, 19, 17 or whatever.
- [35:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
18, 19 Super Bowl 18.
- [35:08]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It was 2019. So Julian Edelman was the Super Bowl MVP. That's that game. And Brady was 21, 35, 262 yards. He had had no touchdowns in a pick against that. It was 13.
- [35:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Three worst Super Bowl, I think.
- [35:22]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Do you think this game will suck?
- [35:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That was like the least memorable.
- [35:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I. I couldn't tell you one play.
- [35:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It will suck. I think it'll be like a defensive battle for the most part. But Julian Edelman had 10 catches, 141 yards.
- [35:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, I just. The game sucks. Well, that's kind of depressing. This episode is brought to you by Velveeta. Game day is all about the tailgate spread. First things first. First, who's bringing the Velveeta drip? Just like your favorite players on the field, Velveeta fans go all in on what they love. Creamy shells and cheese, melty Velveeta blocks and cheesy jarred quesos. They're taking down one taste bud at a time. Velveeta is the real MVP of the tailgate. You've got to respect the drip. Do yourself a favor and stock up on Velveeta before kickoff. This episode is brought to you by Taxact. Taxact helps tackle taxes, guiding you step by step so you can get your maximum refund. Get tips along the way, Add expert assist to talk to tax experts or let our experts do your taxes for you with expert full service. TaxAct helps you find the deductions and credits you deserve so you can get them over with. Visit taxact.com to learn more. Conditions apply. See taxact.com for details. Touchdown scores. I. I gotta tell you not to be Debbie Downer. I. I don't. The touchdown score. I don't like any of the bets for the touchdown scoring because I'm looking at. I'm just being honest. Like Juice has been going through bats.
- [36:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And he's like, I don't like this.
- [36:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I don't know. I don't know if we're gonna make money too. I don't know. I'm just saying, like if you look at some of these, like the touchdown score, like A.J. barner, who. I know he does the tush push Seattle, but he's like two to one and he's. You know what I mean? I'm kind of like, I like that. Oh, I kind of hate it.
- [37:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, he's. I like it.
- [37:07]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It.
- [37:08]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think we need a prerequisite where after any bet we all go, oh, I like that. Yeah, that's good.
- [37:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, it's like the Seok's defense to score touchdown is 5 to 1. Where I'm like, all right. It's a defense that doesn't even include the special teams.
- [37:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I know there's like an A.J. barn Sal and Bill were talking about. There's an A.J. barner. He's like plus two, 30 to score a touchdown. I'm like, that's. That's pretty tough odds for A.J. barner.
- [37:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What do you think, DK? I like that.
- [37:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Are we. Should we just throw out stuff we like or what do you want?
- [37:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, I. So on that note though, I want to throw out some of you on that. On the touch something.
- [37:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay.
- [37:37]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The Patriots might win this game and just start a new 20 year cloud of darkness that we almost live amongst. However, I wanted to embrace the idea that what if DK actually has a great day and the Seahawks win and the Seahawks dominate. On the touchdown thing, this Patriots to not score a touchdown is like 21. And I was wondering what if Stephen A. Smith is right and this game is 60 to nothing Seahawks And I want to just entertain the idea that like the Patriots are a really good team and the Seahawks are a historic team which again, once every 10 years you're like the Ravens Giants met up and the Giants didn't score a touchdown and like the Patriot, the Broncos and scored what, eight points and it's like, would it be really crazy if Will Campbell, the rookie left tackle and the rookie left guard in the second year quarterback, they just kind of get like three field goals and this game is over.
- [38:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What, what are the odds?
- [38:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's 20 to 1.
- [38:24]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I kind of like that one.
- [38:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, I like that too.
- [38:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [38:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No better.
- [38:28]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I mean I would very much like that.
- [38:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, no, right. I actually kind of like that better than any of the individual bets. Other than I guess you could do like Ramon Dre it you win a dollar 60 cents if you put a dollar down. I'm like, I'd rather actually just reflect. I mean that score at all.
- [38:41]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What is the Patriots, they've, they've averaged like 15 points a game in the playoffs. 15 offense playing these very good defenses.
- [38:47]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I mean they could have moved the ball for three quarters against the Chargers, they couldn't really move the ball for large sections against the Texans they could.
- [38:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Like you know, even pre snow first half against Denver, they couldn't do a lot.
- [38:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I mean the Patriots won that game because the Broncos, because Jared's turnover threw the ball backwards while running backwards inside the 20. And that was the game.
- [39:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And now they're playing Seattle.
- [39:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [39:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I don't think it's crazy. So I kind of, I feel like I'm reverse jinxing the Patriots into a Super bowl win. But I actually think they might have, might not score a touchdown.
- [39:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I have one that's kind of touchdown related. Please player to score the most points in the game. Jackson Smith And Jigba is 9 to 1 for this. And the rationale is if he scores two touchdowns, he's going to win this. He's going to win this. I think, think. And if you just look at his line to score two touchdowns, the odds for him to score two touchdowns is plus 650. This is plus 900. So I'm like, if he's going to win this, it's because he scores two touchdowns. And in theory he could I guess, score one and still technically win it, but he's going to win it if he scores two touchdowns. So you're getting 9 to 1 versus 6 to 1 for him to score two touchdowns. Essentially.
- [39:48]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think the problem would be if anyone in New England scores two touchdowns, it's tied. And you don't get it.
- [39:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Right? Yeah, but I, I guess you would just.
- [39:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You push the kickers usually are the ones that win that, right? Yeah.
- [39:57]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And it's like for, if JSN scores two touchdowns, that's 12 points. That'd be four field goals and that would still be a tie. They would need five field goals. I don't know. I kind of like it nine to one.
- [40:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
All right.
- [40:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Basically for JSN to have two touchdowns.
- [40:09]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'm into that.
- [40:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The only one. I wonder.
- [40:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You guys hated that one.
- [40:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, I like that one.
- [40:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I can bounce back. I can bounce back.
- [40:16]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's good.
- [40:17]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I like.
- [40:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Can I bounce back?
- [40:19]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [40:19]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [40:19]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
All right.
- [40:19]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Right.
- [40:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The offensive ball carrier to run the longest total distance in a single play from scrimmage.
- [40:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Shahid.
- [40:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Shahid.
- [40:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Wait, wait. Sorry. I knew that. Again, from scrimmage. Because there are bets on yards after the catch. Air yards for receiver and then from scrimmage. So you talking about like longest play or you. They actually need the ball behind the line of scrimmage.
- [40:40]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They.
- [40:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It has to be a catch or a carry.
- [40:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Just longest cat. Like a 40 yard catch is 40 yards. Because they're actually. Believe it or not, I found breakdowns this year.
- [40:48]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes. Okay, I'm. Now you're confusing me. Offensive ball carrier to run the longest total distance in a single play from scrimmage. And then it says loss if no reception or carries.
- [41:00]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay, you see why I'm confused? That's just the longest play.
- [41:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes. Okay. Yes. Right.
- [41:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Does it not. Does it include catches or just carries?
- [41:09]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Ball carrier play from scrimmage.
- [41:11]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay.
- [41:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This is why we get paid the big bucks.
- [41:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Travion Henderson is 40 to 1.
- [41:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That seems wrong.
- [41:22]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Players.
- [41:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
JSN has the best odds. He's 3 to 1. Rashid Shahid, 6 to 1.
- [41:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Put it down. We don't need to hear 40 to 1.
- [41:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Travy on Henderson. This guy bust a 60 yard run every other game.
- [41:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Put it in. Put it in yellow or whatever. Highlight it the sold that's on our card.
- [41:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I'm back.
- [41:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You're back. You're so bad. I don't even need hitting anymore.
- [41:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Do you need some of this? No.
- [41:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No.
- [41:38]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Dare you.
- [41:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's only.
- [41:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's premium great, not ceremonial.
- [41:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What do you guys want? You want nerdy bets that I actually think will win? Do you want like dumb bets or do you want things that I just thought was that I was just scrolling and I just stopped and thought about.
- [41:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Whatever calls to you.
- [41:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The thing.
- [41:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So when I was just scrolling and I was kind of like just looking the one that I just. There were a few that I just was like, huh? And the first one was just total interceptions in the game.
- [42:03]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Game. Okay.
- [42:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Over. Under one and a half. And over one and a half is plus money you would win. You know, it's like, you know, 11 bucks to you. Put down 10 and I'm like, it's Sam Darnold, Drake May. And I need two picks and you're getting like yeah they're saying it's favorite to have under just one pick in the game or zero.
- [42:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. How confident are you that Sam Donald's not going to throw an interception in this game?
- [42:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Not real confident.
- [42:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I just doesn't it seem like in retrospect you're like I wish I bet over one and a half picks when.
- [42:34]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You watch the game I like it similar to that. I had one total QB sacks taken by both teams. Five and a half is the over under kind of like the over on that. Both both offensive lines are at a disadvantage I believe to the respective defensive lines. I think the Seahawks are going to be kind of nailing it into Darnold's head not to turn the ball over this week and just like let the defense take care of business this so he'll I I could see him take a couple of sacks in this game and then we know May has been taking a lot of sacks so I kind of like that one as well. Kind of like a defensive battle.
- [43:10]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Both quarterbacks are gonna get that drill into their head of the don't turn the ball over and Drake me also does a good job of scrambling to get like a one yard sack right where it doesn't actually matter that much but he gets back up field a little bit. I like that the the Darnold May stuff. I was just I mean I don't know DK I don't know. I feel bad asking this but will Darnold throw an interception is minus 130. Will Darnold throw two or more picks is like four to one.
- [43:35]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
We can't speak that well.
- [43:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's not going to do that.
- [43:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay. Hopefully I and I mean he hasn't.
- [43:41]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Thrown a pick in three games right? That should be stated. He hasn't thrown an interception in the playoffs. He didn't throw an interception Week 18 against the Niners.
- [43:48]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I'm a knock on wood guy. Okay. Let me do nerdy ones that I think will win and then we can get to dumb. That's more fun. I actually do think not to bore you guys with actual analysis but I do think that this game I just think it's going to come down to the Patriots. Defenders are like specialists that can't really do multiple things. So I just feel like on play action Christian why would you throw Christian Gonzalez and Carlton G this whole time when Robert Spain's out there and like he can't cover anybody And I just think this whole game is going to be like can they get AJ Barner And Elijah Royo and Ken Walker onto Roberts, Blaine and also Ellis and all these like throwback linebackers who should be wearing neck rolls.
- [44:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I don't know why. I just have a feeling that Travion Henderson is going to matter in this game. And all of his numbers, all of the odds are great. Like Trayvon HENDERSON to have 60 plus rushing yards is plus 900.
- [44:38]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, he just hasn't been a really big part of that.
- [44:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, he had five, five rushing yards last week, which is totally fair. I mean 60 plus rushing yards, he's nine to one to have 60 plus rushing yards. I mean again, he can do that in one place. He has had more than 60 rushing yards in 50% of his game since he became a full time player.
- [44:53]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This is why Mike Vrabel kept Ramandre even when he kept fumbling is because Ramandre is the bigger back. And also like the Seahawks defense is. So the whole thing's built around actually stopping the run up front. Like all those guys are incredible at it. It's like a prerequisite. And I also think, honestly, Trivion, I think the same issue with Ken Walker is like the pass prediction. It's like what the Seahawks doing defense is so complicated. I think frankly they're worried that like Travian can't protect Drake. Maybe. So I think that reminder is going to be on the field more. But that's also the thing with Ken Walker in this game too, where it's like, I think if Ken Walker goes out as a receiver, I think it's actually a huge advantage for the Seahawks. So I think the Patriots almost might blitz sometimes just to keep Ken Walker in as a blocker because I don't know, there's gonna be a lot of stunting all the stuff on the D line.
- [45:30]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But even trivia and Henderson 25 to have 25 receiving yards is 8 to 1. I'm like we're talking one screen past.
- [45:38]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right? Right.
- [45:39]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I'm going to hit all those and one of them will hit. I like it.
- [45:43]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I like that.
- [45:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Speaking of trivia, who we talked to his jersey all year, the jersey number of the first touchdown score over under 11 and a half.
- [45:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, I love these. So JS JSN 10 or 11.
- [45:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's 1111.
- [45:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So that's the thing. It's over under 11 and a half. So this is for both teams. So what that means is it's. Yeah, so you get Cooper cup and Jackson Smith and Jigba and Ken walker are under 11 and a half on the Seahawks. And then The Patriots and literally everybody else in the Seahawks is over. But then the. The Patriots, you get digs and booty and Drake may.
- [46:19]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So it's any touchdown.
- [46:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Any.
- [46:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Just the first touchdown. Rushing or receiving.
- [46:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, I like the under.
- [46:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think I kind of like the under two. You get Ken Walker and jsn.
- [46:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think we should lock that one in.
- [46:28]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay.
- [46:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That one's good.
- [46:31]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay. Can we get an important stuff?
- [46:34]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Of course.
- [46:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What color liquid will be poured on the winning coach? Also, I don't like the way they phrase it. What color liquid is.
- [46:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They don't. What? They can't say Gatorade because of branding. Branding reasons.
- [46:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So I learned. So the orange is three to one, purple six to one. Yellow is two and a half to one. Blue is two and a half to one, clear is seven to one. And red, pink is like 50 to one. And I've learned why red is never used. Oh, why do you guys want to guess? Red Gatorade's never used.
- [46:58]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Stains.
- [46:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Stains. The white jersey.
- [47:00]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, it's someone trainer makes it look like they're bleeding. Yeah, it's when they throw up, they don't want to get guess if it's Gatorade or blood. So they don't give players. This is high school, every level. They don't give guys red Gatorade.
- [47:11]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [47:12]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Why can't they just keep. I mean, can't they just make the Gatorade that you drink a different color and still pour red Gatorade on the coach at the end?
- [47:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Why would you have red Gatorade if you don't want player to drink it?
- [47:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You have a separate Gatorade tank for pouring.
- [47:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But what if they drink it?
- [47:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They don't really do that.
- [47:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's kind of crazy.
- [47:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, how can they ensure it's full by the end of the game? What if it's empty?
- [47:31]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Because I think they keep it full. I think they keep refilling it, probably.
- [47:35]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
All right.
- [47:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
There's like trainers and whatnot.
- [47:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I have a lot of data on. On which colors hit and when. I don't know if you have any questions.
- [47:41]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I do. Yeah.
- [47:42]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So orange. Between 2010 and 2016, orange was the dominant color, appearing for four times in seven years. And it remains the most frequent color since the tradition. Since the tradition started in the early 2000s, I want to say when the.
- [47:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Seahawks won the super bowl, it was orange.
- [47:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes. Yellow slash green. After a decade without an appearance, it's made a decent comeback, mainly by the Eagles. The Eagles are a big yellow green.
- [48:04]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And the Chiefs were A purple team.
- [48:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Chiefs were purple both times in the last three years when they won, which is weird and random. Blue has become basically the heavyweight.
- [48:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Blue's my favorite flavor of Gatorade.
- [48:16]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Blue has appeared in four of the last 11 Super Bowls, including back to back in 2021 and 2022. And it is often a choice for teams with blue in their uniforms, both being the Patriots and the Seahawks.
- [48:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I wonder. So look, I'm looking at this picture of Pete Carroll getting doused by the Gatorade. I'm wondering if they had. It was like a yellow or. It depends on how you're seeing it. It looks kind of orange here. But anyway, I think that's orange. Wouldn't you say that's orange?
- [48:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, you're right.
- [48:43]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But I wonder if that was the Broncos.
- [48:46]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It was four times in seven years between 2010 and 2016. Orange.
- [48:49]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Interesting.
- [48:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So what do we think?
- [48:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, blue.
- [48:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Blue.
- [48:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
There's blue in both jerseys.
- [48:54]
Guest or Minor Speaker
Yeah.
- [48:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Blue car is great. My brother likes yellow, though. What do you guys like?
- [48:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I like blue.
- [49:00]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'll do blue.
- [49:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Let's do blue.
- [49:02]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay.
- [49:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Plus 260 odds. Is it the favorite?
- [49:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, it's high. They're all kind of orange. Blue and yellow are all kind of like the same.
- [49:10]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's a favorite for a reason, baby. Let's ride the blue.
- [49:15]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Blue just tastes the coldest, you know?
- [49:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Can we get. So the. My. Our favorite thing last year was next gen stats. They now have the numbers on the how fast players travel, which we learned when Travis Kelsey's over under was 14.
- [49:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, I love that.
- [49:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Which we were like, how fast is 14 and a half miles an hour?
- [49:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And we found out that then we.
- [49:31]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Ran on the treadmills in jeans.
- [49:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. Yeah.
- [49:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
At 12.
- [49:34]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It didn't even go up that high, unfortunately.
- [49:36]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think it only got to 12 or something. Austin Hooper, who bullied Craig in. In high school, didn't bully me over. Under. That's what he says. Fifteen and a half.
- [49:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
We didn't even go to high school together. He doesn't even know he's talking in middle school.
- [49:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Stuffed him in a locker. He did.
- [49:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It happened. 15 and a half.
- [49:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I didn't use my locker.
- [49:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
15.
- [49:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Never used the locker. Never used the locker. Trauma because we had blocked schedule. Classes a day. I didn't need. I didn't do all the books in the locker.
- [50:00]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's why there was room for you to fit.
- [50:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Didn't get stuffed in there.
- [50:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Fifteen and a half miles an hour.
- [50:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Too big.
- [50:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Do you think Austin Hooper, your middle school Bully, can run 15 to protest too much.
- [50:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. I think he can run 15 miles an hour.
- [50:13]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Who do you think he will? No, the key, though is ball carrier. You have to have the ball. No, she's like, you can run in.
- [50:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
A straight line to run with the ball. Austin Hooper's not gonna have 20 yards to run.
- [50:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So, like the end. So Cooper. There's a lot of Cooper cup. Sixteen and a half. Hunter Henry. Sixteen and a half.
- [50:25]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Fall down.
- [50:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I don't like any of those shaheeds.
- [50:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Over under 19 and a half, which I think that would be as a punt returner.
- [50:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, how quickly do you reach top speed on the punt or on a kickoff return?
- [50:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Pretty quickly.
- [50:36]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You know, kind of thinking of the kickoff return, you'd think she can get to 20. Yeah, 22 is like a full sprint. Yeah, 22 is like full sprint.
- [50:44]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. And this is 19. The problem is on kickoffs, you're not just running in it. Like, he's. He's reading the defense. He's trying to find a lane. It's not full sprint. You know, it is a little. I don't. I don't think I like these.
- [50:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Part of me is like, should we just bet the under on all of them? Yeah, we should just put the under on every prop. We'd probably win.
- [51:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, that. My. My plan for Ringer107 next episode is to bet the under on every.
- [51:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Everything.
- [51:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Shahid was the 11th, 11th fastest player this year all season.
- [51:10]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But that's the problem is that includes a kickoff return touchdown.
- [51:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, Exactly.
- [51:13]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's an 87 yard TD.
- [51:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Right. But it's like you have to bank on that for him to hit that speed.
- [51:18]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What are the odds?
- [51:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
One catch a game? Yeah.
- [51:23]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What could it cost?
- [51:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
$10?
- [51:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [51:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Cooper Cups is 16 and a half miles an hour. I'm like, is he gonna get to full speed?
- [51:30]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No.
- [51:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
As a ball carrier?
- [51:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I don't think so. So I like the enders on these. All right, what about this? Any player to record over 100 receiving yards. What about no?
- [51:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I like. How about no, you crazy fat bastard? How about no?
- [51:46]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So Dr. Evil Craig, like, motors over to us. How about no?
- [51:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Crazy Dutch bastard.
- [51:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wow. Yeah. Now I can't say no to that.
- [51:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Who's going to have 100 yards if it's not? If JSN doesn't, I feel like you clear this JSN.
- [52:02]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
JSN's over. Under is 95 in this game, which is ridiculous.
- [52:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Again, if the Patriots just take that safety and scoot them over JSN's way, maybe JSN has like 67 receiving yards.
- [52:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, is that how they fix it?
- [52:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. And then it's like we're. We're cooking. I don't really see anyone else being a huge threat for 100 receiving yards, do you?
- [52:22]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No, no, no.
- [52:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
There's no one else really. That honestly, it's plus odds to say no to somebody having.
- [52:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Crazy Dutch bastard.
- [52:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How about no, you crazy Dutch bas?
- [52:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think that's good, right? That lock that in.
- [52:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Hell yeah.
- [52:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Dr.
- [52:39]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Evil. Oh, what does he say? Can I have something gold? Can I paint you gold?
- [52:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I paint you gold.
- [52:46]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
How about no?
- [52:48]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, my God. I think he wants the skin for his collection.
- [52:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, yeah. Do we want to stick with football or dumb?
- [52:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Dumb's been more fun.
- [52:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
All right. Super Bowl MVP mentions.
- [52:58]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, I have. I have thoughts about this.
- [53:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Who they mentioned in the postgame speech, if it's Sam Darnold. So right now the odds are all over the place. Except the heavy favorite is God or Jesus Christ. Of course, Sam Darnold does not mention God. I've watched his last three pressers. He doesn't mention God or Jesus.
- [53:15]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Went to usc. Godless city, Los Angeles.
- [53:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's right. Downtown LA is a godless city.
- [53:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Godless city.
- [53:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And every single time, he usually thanks his teammates first and then the coaching staff. So the teammates is plus 150. We could sprinkle on that. That's odds. Even odds. But the coaching staff is 22 to 1. So if he just accidentally, instead of saying, I want to thank my teammates in the coaching staff, if he says, I want to thank my coaching staff and my teammates. Bam. 22 1.
- [53:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Can I go further? I. This could be the one that brings us in. The green ownership is 45 to 1. Now that sounds crazy. Why would Sam Darnold.
- [53:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
For betting on me, for taking a chance on me.
- [53:53]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And the owner gets the trophy. Jody Allen, who owns the team, she's the one who will. If the Seoks win, she gets handed the trophy. So she's the one actually standing next to Sam Darnold when he gets this trophy. So all he needs to do is be looking and he just sees. I want to thank Mrs. Allen, the owner, the coaches, like, he's really staring at her. Probably she's going to be in his left or right. 45 to 1.
- [54:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Not bad. I feel confident he's going to. The first thing he'll say is like, man, I just want to thank these guys. Like, I couldn't have done without these guys. Which is plus 150. You can make money.
- [54:25]
Commercial Narrator
Could We.
- [54:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You know what? I wish we could bet. Fanduel. Let us know. You can do this. I want to bet on Sam Darnold to not mention God.
- [54:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
At all.
- [54:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, if it's. Yeah. I mean, minus 200 is crazy. That's just betting on anyone but Sam Donald winning. Winning. Who will probably mention God? Anybody?
- [54:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, the other everyone else kind of loves God for sure. Yeah.
- [54:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Drake May loves God. He would definitely.
- [54:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's super into God.
- [54:46]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [54:47]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Jsn.
- [54:48]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It does say Jody Allen will be present for Sunday Super Bowl. Because when you said that, I was like, I don't know. I don't. She doesn't really hang out at the games.
- [54:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I feel like when you can win a Super bowl, usually maybe she will in this one. That'd be a crazy rich person movie. Win the super bowl, get the trophy.
- [55:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I'm good.
- [55:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I love that one. I think that. Dude, I like that a lot. The I love prop. Can I go through? Wait, can we go through? I want to do a little fan fiction here because I don't think I've hidden this. I know the Patriots are actually kind of an. If you remove the sign in the door. It's actually a nice story with Mike Rabel and Drake Bates. Actually really likable collection of guys in the Patriots, except for. For two people. But like, they're a pretty nice story. But they're the Patriots. It's like them.
- [55:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [55:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like we just saw this movie for 20 years. Can we just go through for one sec a little fan fiction of what if the Patriots get their doors blown off?
- [55:34]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The bloody doors blown off.
- [55:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You know, blow the bloody doors off.
- [55:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
She shot on a turtle.
- [55:42]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Why are we doing Austin Powers Seahawks.
- [55:45]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
40 blow the bloody doors.
- [55:46]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I know, but he was. He was in. But he was in. What's his name was in.
- [55:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, yeah, Austin Powers.
- [55:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He was his dad. Isn't he doing an impression of Kane?
- [55:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes, Coogan is doing an impression of Kane.
- [55:58]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What's his first name?
- [55:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Steve Coogan.
- [56:00]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No, I know, but what's Michael Kane? Michael Caine. Yeah.
- [56:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Michael. Michael. Bloody doors off. Yeah, because that's from the trip, right?
- [56:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [56:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He's gonna blow the bloody doors off. She was only 16 years old. That guy's gonna be in the new White Lotus. They announced.
- [56:14]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, yeah.
- [56:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. He's gonna cook.
- [56:15]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Thought you're going to see the files.
- [56:16]
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- [57:17]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
States DK, will you read the tweet that you sent me this morning?
- [57:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Actually yes. This is from the Nashville Zoo. We don't have a great track. Well, we have a really great or not great track record with zoos, but.
- [57:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Pretty elite track record.
- [57:31]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wilbur the binturong predicts a Seahawks win in Super Bowl 60. Since Wilbur started making predictions, he's never been wrong. Never.
- [57:42]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What has he?
- [57:42]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's done it twice. He's two. He's two two zero.
- [57:48]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So he's never been been to wrong.
- [57:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Whoa. Good one. Why didn't they do that?
- [57:53]
Commercial Narrator
Man?
- [57:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They really missed out.
- [57:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That was a huge mistake. More like benta right?
- [57:57]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's been to correct the last two times.
- [58:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Hyphens. How do you feel about punks? Punks? He Phil Punk's a ton.
- [58:04]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Did he die?
- [58:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Six more weeks of winter.
- [58:08]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Fell off a roof and died.
- [58:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I'm not going to die. And they covered it up.
- [58:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Wait, what?
- [58:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You don't know about this Bill de Blasio, who is like the most really the most across the aisle disliked politician I've ever seen. Like where everyone in New York hated him of every walk of life and he dropped the groundhog and then they it died of its injuries later and they covered. They tried covering it up and they failed but he dropped the ground. You didn't hear about this? No.
- [58:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, they covered it up.
- [58:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Clearly no build. Yeah, they killed the ground dog. Jesus.
- [58:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Do you care about punk? Tawny Phil saying six more weeks of winter.
- [58:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I've never seen a more accurate prediction considering. Yeah. Coming to Los Angeles from D.C. where it's just like 6 inches of pure ice. That's never going to go away for six weeks. Yeah, it's definitely like 12 more weeks of winter.
- [58:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's funny because I do feel like it matters. I feel like when that report comes out for like 10 minutes, people are like, I'm fucking.
- [58:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Damn it.
- [58:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, no.
- [58:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Punks.
- [58:57]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, you know, Says the guy who lives in la.
- [59:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [59:00]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Like, what do you care?
- [59:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Just seen. I've just seen tweets of people upset about it. God damn it. Punks. It's honey Phil.
- [59:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [59:07]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It does kind of make me a little sad.
- [59:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It does, it does.
- [59:09]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I feel like it. It has weight for some reason when you see it. Somebody just saying like a new. Like. Like a news station just saying so and so predicts six more weeks of winter. I feel like that just becomes gospel. That is real. And it's depressed, Depressing.
- [59:23]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [59:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You know, Totally.
- [59:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You could pretend that you don't think the. The thing knows, but it knows.
- [59:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But, like, it'll. It's gonna bum you out for five minutes.
- [59:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The Vento, right, is gonna get the Seahawks 13 into never. Wrong Nashville Zoo. They smell like popcorn.
- [59:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Can I. They do. No, the piss smells like popcorn from the binturongs.
- [59:42]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No, I think it's just been. Turongs Smell like popcorn. Oh, yeah.
- [59:46]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I wonder what.
- [59:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, Craig loves popcorn corn. He's crazy about it. That's right.
- [59:50]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
If. If my. If my punishment was I couldn't eat popcorn for a week, I'd be upset.
- [59:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, no, now we know.
- [59:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Let's make him do that. Yeah, he'll do it anyway. He'll cheat. Wait, can I have.
- [60:02]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No.
- [60:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Integrity popcorn. Can I make that trade or.
- [60:04]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, it's neither. We're going to deprive you. It'll also be fun because, like, as you increasingly don't have caffeine, I feel like you're stuck with us for a week. Well, you like him, you're stuck with me. And so you're going to be, like, increasingly, like, ornery throughout the week.
- [60:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, I think you're overestimating, like, the caffeine fix that Matcha gives me. But I'll let you live in that.
- [60:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
If it's.
- [60:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
There's an incredible bet. Will. Chris Collinsworth mentioned Patrick Mahomes.
- [60:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Ooh, I like that.
- [60:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He's. It's a overwhelming figure. Minus 200. Really, like a dollar to win 50 cents. So I thought, here's why Mahomes was in the last three Super Bowls. Is it not going to come up like last year?
- [60:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I mean, is this a Romo. A Romo situation where he accidentally call someone Mahomes?
- [60:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, that Too. Yeah, but like, I just think it doesn't have to be like, oh, Brock Purdy reminds my homes. It's like, aren't they last year? Aren't they. They always mention. Oh, yeah. If you remember last year's super bowl, the Eagles beat the Chiefs. Like, I. I think comes up.
- [61:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What are the odds that he doesn't mention his name?
- [61:02]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The odds that he doesn't are like, like one and a half to.
- [61:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I would take that. I don't think he's going to say.
- [61:07]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
His name because they lost last year.
- [61:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, he knows that. He knows people. The. The bit that people heal, but I.
- [61:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Just don't think he's going to do it. If he brings it up, he's going to say, Chiefs, Eagles. Chiefs are in the last three Super Bowls.
- [61:18]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Hertz was the MVP last year.
- [61:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The Chiefs lost. Why don't. I don't necessarily think he'll say Patrick Mahomes.
- [61:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, the other one is, will Chris Collinsworth say the phrase, quote, here's a guy.
- [61:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yes.
- [61:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Now here's a guy. And the end it is. Yes, is. It's minus 420, which is insane. No, is. Is like. It's like three to one.
- [61:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I would take no as well.
- [61:38]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is a guy.
- [61:39]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He might say, does that have to say now? Now here's a guy.
- [61:42]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I assume that's what the quotes mean. Now here's a guy. Yeah, I assume that's the quote.
- [61:45]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So if he goes, here's a guy in Cooper Cup. If he doesn't say, now here's a guy, we're fine.
- [61:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He says it like once a quarter.
- [61:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I would take the no on that, too.
- [61:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, I thought you meant.
- [61:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I don't have the.
- [61:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I thought you meant like a physical quarter. Fiscal quarter.
- [61:58]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, Q4 earnings are coming up for Chris.
- [62:03]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, right. There's quarters in NFL games forgot.
- [62:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think this is the single best bet of the entire slate.
- [62:10]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay.
- [62:10]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think this is if I actually was like, you should bet on this. Will the electrical substation near the 49ers stadium be mentioned? Yes. Is 2 to 1 odds.
- [62:19]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
This is on the broadcast?
- [62:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes.
- [62:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
This is Chirico and Collinsworth, I assume.
- [62:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yes.
- [62:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think Tariko has a good sense of humor. He's going to bring it up. They're going to not mention it for hours.
- [62:32]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
McCaffrey was talking about it the other day. He's like, it's not nothing.
- [62:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He was like, emf, Bluetooth, Wi Fi.
- [62:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wi fi.
- [62:37]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I will say. And here's the thing.
- [62:39]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I could have bet my life that he was an anti wireless guy.
- [62:42]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, the. You know what's crazy about WI fi actually? Do you guys care about this or should I keep going? We could just not do this.
- [62:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, now I'm curious.
- [62:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
WI fi, to say nothing of health effects for caffeine. They've seen that AI can create like vision with WI fi. Like, you know, in like a video game or movie when you kind of like look through night vision because of all the signals your WI fi sends, it doesn't go through your body. So they can kind of create. AI can turn WI fi into cameras. Yeah, it looks like the Matrix where it's like, basically they can track like the human shaped shapes. The human shapes that don't have WI fi shapes so that your WI fi router can be turned into like a camera where it sees where you're going in your own house. Like the Predator. They can do that.
- [63:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Now, it's like a heat map.
- [63:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes, like a heat map, but for the WI fi signals. So like they just turn that on.
- [63:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Whoa.
- [63:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's the thing.
- [63:28]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Whoa.
- [63:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So don't tell.
- [63:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Don't tell. McCaffrey.
- [63:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, yeah, you're probably right. That the substation will be mentioned, I think. I think, I guess on that.
- [63:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And then also, like, will Alcatraz be shown? Which, like, of course. Yeah, that one's. That one's pretty bad odds.
- [63:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's like Golden Gate for sure.
- [63:46]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The other one was, will there be a flea flicker. A flea flicker attempt in this game? Dude, three to one. The Patriots. Josh McDaniels loves flea flickers. And I wish I could parlay it with. I have never, like, under 20 yards. I've never seen a team do trick plays to gain like nine yards more than the Patriots this season.
- [64:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, they. They. They pitch it like three times to get six yards. Yes.
- [64:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's insane.
- [64:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's cooking up parlays like, like our boy Stike, Anthony Richardson.
- [64:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Richardson. Yeah.
- [64:16]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Three to one. I wish we could parlay three to one. Flea flicker with the flea flicker will gain 12 yards or less.
- [64:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That's fine.
- [64:22]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Sandal. Let us know if we can do that.
- [64:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How do you guys feel about which ad will run first, Pringles or Ritz?
- [64:34]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I feel really strongly about this.
- [64:35]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think it's going to be Pringles. And here's why. Sabrina Carpenter is in the Pringles ad. Jon Ham and Scarlett Johansson and Bowen Yang are in the Ritz ad. Both of these ads have already come out or teased or whatever, so R. Carpenter is just the biggest star. I think she's going to Be a first quarter run. I think the Pringles are going to spend more money. They probably spent more money to get her. They're going to spend more money on the spot. She is more famous.
- [64:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think it costs more money to get one Sabrina Carpenter than Jon Hammond. Who are the other two people you said?
- [65:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Jon Hamm, Bowen Yang and Scarlett Johansson.
- [65:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Don't these three people cost more than Sabrina Carpenter?
- [65:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But I think Sabrina Carpenter, she's harder to get, is a bigger star and they will pay to get her first.
- [65:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
John Hamm's kind of in a lot of stuff these days.
- [65:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Sure. Of course. I mean he's also very famous. But Sabrina Carpenter is as big as it gets right now.
- [65:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Now, right.
- [65:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Top 10 most famous new people in the world. Sabrina Carpenter right now.
- [65:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
New people.
- [65:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [65:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's like they also call them young people, Craig.
- [65:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, I mean newly famous. They can be old and newly famous.
- [65:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I know what you're saying.
- [65:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Like you.
- [65:37]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
New people.
- [65:38]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I like Pringles. Minus 120. It's even odds.
- [65:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Every time I think about Pringles. I think with the Bob burn them of like please make the Pringles can bigger so I can fit my hand in the Pringles can.
- [65:47]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I also should shout out that my brother Scott wrote a Super bowl commercial that's coming out this year.
- [65:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh yes.
- [65:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
For liquid I. It's coming.
- [65:54]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Hell yeah.
- [65:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So keep your eye out for that.
- [65:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That's super fun.
- [65:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's. Didn't you. Well, can we.
- [65:57]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
This is like his super bowl pretty much.
- [66:01]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Sorry I said that. I said that on purpose.
- [66:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They teased it. You could see a teaser for.
- [66:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Can we mention the other one he wrote?
- [66:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, the Nick Saban one. Yeah, Verbo.
- [66:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Your. Your brother wrote the Nick Saban's. The verbo.
- [66:12]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes.
- [66:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Owner.
- [66:13]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Which is amazing.
- [66:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The curmudgeony or verbo. Owner.
- [66:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right, right.
- [66:16]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [66:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's like constantly checking in on him.
- [66:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, yeah. And they're like, well, they're checking. They're like we're checking in. He's like, check INS at 5. They're like, it's 4:58. And he's like, yep, see you in two minutes. Stickler in the hot tub with his shirt on.
- [66:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. We had your brother on the show.
- [66:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's right.
- [66:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Your birthday. He told the story about like when you didn't want a bedtime. You would like accent to what happened. You wouldn't.
- [66:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You would sneak out and watch TV from the hallway.
- [66:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I would watch like David Letterman and Jay Leno from the hallway.
- [66:40]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And then you'd fall asleep in the.
- [66:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Your brother.
- [66:41]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's Greg's bedtime. He's got to go to bed. Yes. Or I would like put on little like skits in front of like his room. I would like like put like put on like weird clothes and like run around and try to keep him awake. Cuz I didn't want to go to sleep.
- [66:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh man.
- [66:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But yeah, Liquid iv. So shout out Scott. Yeah, it liquidity hydrates you I guess. But not that they're not a sponsor of the show at all.
- [67:01]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay.
- [67:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
My brother just is working on a project for them. So not an ad, Right?
- [67:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, we mentioned. I saw Gatorade had something called like Gatorade iv. Oh no. They called it Gatorade Gator.
- [67:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You're just doing more ads. Just can't do more. You just do more ads.
- [67:19]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Should I move on? Gator Light.
- [67:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And we hate it.
- [67:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, we hate it. Yeah, I didn't try it.
- [67:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Can we just talk about products that we hate? That's probably fine.
- [67:28]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I don't think it'd be legal. You always say that's why in like commercials you always hear about the other guys or something like that.
- [67:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, but sometimes they'll just openly mention other companies.
- [67:36]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
There was a point where AT&T and Verizon were just like fuck Harrison Ford.
- [67:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The phone companies are always like we're way better than AT&T.
- [67:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Right.
- [67:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But I think you can't. You can't be sued if what you're saying is true.
- [67:47]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You could be sued. But you could. You probably win.
- [67:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You probably.
- [67:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
But the T mobile has that commercial right now with the Billy. Why am I blanking? Landman. Yeah. Yeah. What'd you say?
- [67:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Billy Bob Thorne.
- [67:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. Billy Bob Thornton. And then he's just like T mobile's the best. And then AT and T just made the exact same looking commercial with Luke. With Luke Wilson.
- [68:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And he's like who invented the telephone?
- [68:07]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I can't believe they never brought that up before. I like that's. I would lead with that.
- [68:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Ever. It is funny though. Now it's just like we gotta get like a middle aged white guy walking through a cornfield talking about phones. Phones.
- [68:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The Puppy Bowl. You got team Rough or Team Fluff?
- [68:22]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Totally.
- [68:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This is my favorite thing in the world.
- [68:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Do you watch it?
- [68:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, obviously.
- [68:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What are the odds?
- [68:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
They're even odds. Minus 120 each. I think Team Ralph is going to win this year. I also MVP under 16 and a half weeks. Those little ones are squirrely.
- [68:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay. Didn't you report on this one year?
- [68:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes.
- [68:39]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What did you learn?
- [68:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
How to win money in the Puppy bowl.
- [68:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Which is. Enlighten us.
- [68:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Fillable and ethical.
- [68:48]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, I just talked about Coke, putting a Pepsi out in the Hitler's bunker.
- [68:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I mean, so tell us like what are the secrets?
- [68:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The secret it is. You know what? It's just. You just gotta have eye. You just gotta watch the tape. You gotta grind the tape and you got. It's.
- [69:00]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Which puppies have more grit?
- [69:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Is there tape?
- [69:04]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, no.
- [69:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Are they practicing? What tape are we watching?
- [69:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I.
- [69:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They're biting each other's ears and rolling around.
- [69:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You gotta have that dog.
- [69:13]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Cute as hell.
- [69:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But is it. Is there tape of these animals interacting with one another?
- [69:18]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Animals?
- [69:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
These beasts.
- [69:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, you watch the tape.
- [69:23]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I don't know what to look for. I think there are.
- [69:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
If you know where to find like the week of. They kind of show them.
- [69:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. And they like.
- [69:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They do like little profiles.
- [69:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The all 22.
- [69:31]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
- [69:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You watch the all 22, but in dog years it's all three.
- [69:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is Frederick the puppy.
- [69:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, yeah. This is Walter, 8 months old.
- [69:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Great. There's some great. You should there. All the dogs are up for adoption. Adopt a dog?
- [69:44]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
What are some of the.
- [69:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I thought about doing it. Oh, dude, the puppy Bow bought dogs are the best.
- [69:48]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I need to see this.
- [69:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Have you never looked at the. You guys.
- [69:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
20, 26, meet the players of the puppy bowl.
- [69:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Are they all puppies?
- [69:58]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes.
- [69:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Do you think they check their kind of ageist?
- [70:01]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is like.
- [70:01]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, it's right there in the name.
- [70:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, if it's for adoption, adopting a puppy is easy.
- [70:06]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay, one of those names. Carrie Pawshaw.
- [70:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Bark Purdy.
- [70:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Pittsburgh.
- [70:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's not even Carrie Pasha. That's, I guess, funny. Like Carrie Bradshaw just finished Sex in the City.
- [70:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, what'd you think?
- [70:19]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I actually like theory.
- [70:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I know that's kind of a hot take Sex.
- [70:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I hated the lead up to the ending. I thought it was a complete drag. However, I think you could make the case that that was the point. And you needed that because Carrie was supposed to be having a midlife crisis. Well, you know what I mean.
- [70:36]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [70:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
So while it was horrible and her dating this Russian guy was so boring and it was going on for way too long. Maybe you needed that to like hate Carrie. And that was the intent.
- [70:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I gotta tell you, Sex and the City, first of all, incredible show.
- [70:48]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Amazing show. Have you watched it?
- [70:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No.
- [70:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Have you seen an episode?
- [70:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I mean, I've seen bits and pieces.
- [70:53]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's very good.
- [70:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I even like the remake, actually, more than other people did. I will say the thing with Sex and the City. I think Carrie is very unlikable. Carrie's a terrible friend.
- [71:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, she is.
- [71:01]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Because if you look like there are times where Carrie is.
- [71:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And her decision making is so frustrating.
- [71:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like, there are times where she's a mess, basically. She's such a mess, but also like, she's so like. Like Charlotte. The scene where Charlotte is taking care of Steve, like her husband or I don't forget, they were divorced at the time. But Steve's mom, who had dementia.
- [71:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Miranda.
- [71:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Sorry, I was confused. Miranda was taking care of her, like, ex husband's mom when she was.
- [71:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's right at the end. That's like the last two episodes.
- [71:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And Carrie is complaining to her. Like, she just took her on. She was eating pizza out of the garbage and comes in. She gives her a bath. And Carrie comes in complaining about this. Like, oh, should I move to Paris or not? I'm like, can you have, like, a little perspective? Yeah, my God. Like, this is not the time to complain. Like, I also. Big is horrific to her. And I can't believe that he's like this Big.
- [71:44]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's not even Mr. Big.
- [71:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No. Just calls him Big. But Big sucks.
- [71:48]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, I like Big.
- [71:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Big. Oh, dude. Big sucks ass.
- [71:50]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Big and her are right for each other.
- [71:52]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, that's. That says something about. I think Big. Big is. Big sucks.
- [71:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They're meant to be together. I think. I think that's the right. That's the right ending. Is Big and hurt. He treats her like Aiden's too nice.
- [72:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Aiden is great.
- [72:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
He's great. They're not right for each other. Carrie's not great. You need Big. Shoot. They want to go get cocktails and drive around in their black car. Aiden doesn't want that. It doesn't work. Big and Big and Carrie work.
- [72:14]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
There's a puppy named Guy Ferrari in the puppy bowl.
- [72:19]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What team is he on? I'll take Guy Fieri.
- [72:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He.
- [72:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's on the rough team.
- [72:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Let's do rough.
- [72:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
He's a Yorkshire terrier.
- [72:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I love.
- [72:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Well, Westchester, Pennsylvania, in the house.
- [72:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Okay.
- [72:31]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wait, I thought that was Heifetz Heifers.
- [72:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Is the.
- [72:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Not from there?
- [72:34]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No, it's Pennsylvania.
- [72:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Different. Different state.
- [72:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Also, I'm pretty sure that Kim Cattrall and. And Sarah Jessica Parker weren't friends.
- [72:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No. No, they don't like each other. It sucks. Email us about sex in the city here. We have. Do you have any other prop bets.
- [72:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
You guys want to do?
- [72:46]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Imagine if I'm just like. Yeah. Kenneth Walker, 62 and a half rushing yards.
- [72:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
A.J. barner, over 52 yards. Man, I'm telling you, you're into Barner.
- [72:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How do you feel about that?
- [72:55]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I just think the biggest mismatch in the game is the Patriots. Titans can't cover.
- [72:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That's fine.
- [73:00]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay. Yeah.
- [73:02]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I like AJ Barnard.
- [73:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Team who scores first wins the game.
- [73:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, you think?
- [73:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yes.
- [73:08]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [73:10]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
What do you think?
- [73:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I kind of want team who scores first, doesn't score again. I kind of want Patriots to come.
- [73:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Out, Patriots get the ball, march down, kick a field goal and the Seahawks still win.
- [73:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Can I run spoil ringer107 and just run one prop by you guys that I actually just in the vein of what we did with the conference title game, spending as little time as possible on it.
- [73:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [73:27]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I just read a bet because we obviously we're going to take the freaking Seahawks. We're not going against the ox. We have to make three other prop bets. We're going to seven, which we're winning, by the way.
- [73:34]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think we should just take Seahawks minus four and a half, five and a half, six and a half, seven and half and eight and a half. Those should be our five bets.
- [73:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's awesome. That's so much better than what I had.
- [73:42]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
And then they win by two.
- [73:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I. Yeah, we just go over four. The other one, I like, I just read it and I was like, yep, Patriots first drive punch. Whoa, it's plus 130. I don't care. And I'm kind of like, we will just win it immediately. I'm like, oh, yeah, sure. They could get the ball, get a field goal. They're gonna punt. They go three now and we're like, oh, wow, we want to bet already. First drive, Patriots punt.
- [74:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
And well, by then we'll have already hit. Coin toss.
- [74:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [74:09]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
She heat on the return will have already hit 20 miles an hour.
- [74:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
- [74:13]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
With everything in like two minutes.
- [74:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That should be what we do.
- [74:15]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We see how many vets we can get within the first year.
- [74:18]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [74:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
How much money can we make on the N word?
- [74:20]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
One drive and then we go O for four and then we're like, oh, we blew it. That's actually good.
- [74:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah. It's the two minute drill.
- [74:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. Yeah. Branding. Yeah, Love that.
- [74:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Why did they say red area, not red zone? Is that because red zone owns it? I can't say that.
- [74:34]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No, it's because football guys, Tom Brady says that.
- [74:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
He says red area.
- [74:39]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Why?
- [74:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Because when you say it all the.
- [74:41]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Time, you got to rename Belichick's dad called it that.
- [74:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Red area does not sound cooler than red zone. Well, it's also harder to Say. We also say end zone. Zone. Why wouldn't it be red zone and end zone?
- [74:49]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They sound too similar.
- [74:50]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Area.
- [74:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They sound too similar.
- [74:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, they don't.
- [74:55]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No.
- [74:55]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Red area sounds terrible.
- [74:56]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I don't understand that he calls it red area. It bothers me.
- [74:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, it's a huge ick from Tom.
- [75:02]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The other one is matriculate down the field. The only people in the world use matriculate.
- [75:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I know.
- [75:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's like doesn't mean anything.
- [75:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
In what world? Why are we using matriculate? Talking about football. Did you guys hear the Lindsey Vaughn news?
- [75:12]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
She tore acl.
- [75:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
She tore her ACL last week and is going to compete still.
- [75:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yes. Badass.
- [75:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That is insane.
- [75:19]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Is it? Or actually all these guys should be doing it. Why you can get the surgery.
- [75:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, it is an interesting conversation to have.
- [75:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No Bo Nix.
- [75:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Maybe just play Bo.
- [75:28]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Nick should have just played the game.
- [75:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Just play with the Brooks.
- [75:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Sean Payton wouldn't have drafted him. No. Lizzie Vaughn doing it is pretty sick. Also email us. Everyone made fun of me. But email us@randomfantasyfoot Gmail.com, the sport you would try to meddle in if you had to meddle in something. Obviously the answer is curling. If anyone has an argument against it. And curling is the sport.
- [75:44]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This was when you said handball.
- [75:45]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Everyone made fun of me as if if pick a different sport. Like, sorry, I didn't say track. What do you want me to do? People said you should do shooting. I'm like, there's no way you could get better at shooting than the best shooter in the world.
- [75:56]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
In like false. What if you're just really good like me?
- [75:59]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You shoot or shoot. You can win a medal on the bench.
- [76:04]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The answer is curling. We know that handball. There's a lot more athleticism to handball than you think.
- [76:09]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Hand eye coordination, the Olympics.
- [76:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But the sport itself requires a lot of. Of. Of like a diversity of things.
- [76:15]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So what was your. But you have four years. And my point is there are not other people spending four years on that. They're like. Like at the same degree. What are your. What. What is your answer for what you would try to medal in curling? Well, that's Winter Olympics.
- [76:24]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, summer.
- [76:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That was my handball answer. Probably everyone was so mad about the handball thing.
- [76:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Probably Basketball. Three for five from the corner.
- [76:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Three for five from the corner. You could shoot in an NBA game.
- [76:37]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Archery.
- [76:39]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That. I think that's a bad idea.
- [76:40]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That seems hard.
- [76:43]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I think there is an element.
- [76:44]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Tried shooting an arrow. Yeah. It's not easy.
- [76:47]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, it's not. But like I Think I'd be better.
- [76:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
At shooting a gun than an arrow?
- [76:51]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
That's fair. Maybe it is. Shooting.
- [76:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [76:54]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Everyone's. I just think that shooting, they're actually required. There's actually a physical level of hand, eye coordination that you. Like a bar, you need to, like, make it like. That's what a lot of people email.
- [77:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
But handball, I almost think there is a prerequisite of athleticism that if you don't have, you can't get there. Shooting, in theory, doesn't require elite athleticism the same way handball does. And some people just don't have that.
- [77:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You can't acquire athleticism well, for money, maybe. I don't know. Unlimited training.
- [77:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I don't know. I don't know if. I don't know if I agree with that.
- [77:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What are you saying?
- [77:24]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Nothing.
- [77:25]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I opened this bottle in, like, five minutes.
- [77:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Bottle opening.
- [77:32]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
All right, fine. How do you ski with a torn ACL? That's remarkable.
- [77:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Lindsey Von. Thing's crazy.
- [77:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
She's 41 years old.
- [77:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It also sucks. Those are our two biggest stars. Chloe Kim hurt her shoulder and she's gonna snowboard. And Lindsey Vaughn. But Lindsey Vaughn coming back because she.
- [77:43]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Retired a knee brace. Like, yeah, real crazy.
- [77:48]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Also now she's kind of, like, watching tua, where you're kind of watching through your fingers and you're kind of like, oh, my God. You're mostly, like, going from hoping she wins gold to, like, I really hope she doesn't fall.
- [77:56]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I know.
- [77:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. Precarious.
- [77:59]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Crazy.
- [78:00]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [78:01]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
You guys want to do some emails?
- [78:03]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [78:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. We got an email from Casey.
- [78:06]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Casey C. Bone and the Sunshine Band.
- [78:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Breakfast was a Cliff Builders bar in a cold brew.
- [78:12]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Okay, solid.
- [78:13]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So Casey writes, I gotta say, the.
- [78:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Bars market way bigger than I thought. For breakfast, everybody's eating bars.
- [78:20]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No one wants to be cooking in the morning.
- [78:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No, it's like coffee or an energy drink at a bar on the go.
- [78:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, you know.
- [78:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So Casey writes, the awesome thing about Dante's was that there was a comedy club next door called Giggles. Did you remember Giggles?
- [78:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I went and saw Mitch Hedberg at Giggles.
- [78:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's sick.
- [78:36]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Was he from the pnw?
- [78:37]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I don't think so. He was touring at the time. It was great.
- [78:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
So one year. So it's a legit comedy club. So Casey says, one year, the owner of the comedy club just decided to make it into a strip club.
- [78:48]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, that sounds right.
- [78:49]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, I think I heard that.
- [78:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I heard of that from afar. So apparently, just changed the. No permits, no warning, just. Well, no, he changed the name from Giggles to Jiggles.
- [79:01]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Ooh, God, that's good.
- [79:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And.
- [79:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I mean, it is. Come on. Who are we kidding?
- [79:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
One day, they didn't announce it. They just. One day you went to Giggles, and it was just Jiggles, and it was a strip club. So the problem was it was across the street from a church that also had a school and a daycare.
- [79:17]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That doesn't seem legal.
- [79:19]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It probably wasn't. So the church wasn't having it. So then later, they forced the owner to convert it back from Jiggles back to Giggles, and then Dante's burns down, right?
- [79:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Dante's Inferno.
- [79:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yes. That was all at the same time.
- [79:33]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Wow.
- [79:33]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Dante's just burst into flames.
- [79:38]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
One strip club across from church to get Dante's Inferno across the street from.
- [79:42]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The church next to the strip club.
- [79:45]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Did you frequent Jiggles?
- [79:47]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
No, I never went.
- [79:49]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
A likely story. All right, we have one.
- [79:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, I didn't need to.
- [79:53]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
No. You know, we have one other important email here. One other important email here. This is Henry, and probably, like, actually, like, dozens of other people were angry at us.
- [80:02]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay.
- [80:02]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
So angry.
- [80:03]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
An episode ago, we talked about how we had this idea for, like, motorcycle jousting.
- [80:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [80:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And, like, you should be in full chain link armor. Motorcycle jousting. And, like, why don't we do this? Well, it turns out. So this is from Henry, but, I mean, Henry writes, I was listening to the podcast how to pause the episode when you start spitballing about a motorcycle jousting leaf. And I was screaming like a ghost. Because this is already a movie. Of course, in 1981, the legendary filmmaker George Romero of Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead and the Crazies and everything. George Romero made a sincere film called Knight Riders, with Ed Harris as the star, where they have literally are a traveling renaissance troupe that jousts in full metal chain link on motorcycles. Not ironically or metaphorically. They literally just have lances and motorcycles and they joust as, like, a gang.
- [80:53]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, it's Knight Riders with a K.
- [80:56]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, that's the pun.
- [80:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
This movie exists.
- [80:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wow. Yeah. Wow. Look at young Ed Harris. Yeah, that. That didn't seem, like, too. Too novel.
- [81:08]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [81:08]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The poster says the games, the romance, the spirit. Camelot is a state of mind. The 80s were the best.
- [81:16]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They really.
- [81:17]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
You could do anything. They were all doing smelling salts, dude.
- [81:21]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I just thought that was amazing. I know. There's just a whole.
- [81:26]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Whole medieval reenactment troupe.
- [81:30]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Well, so, I mean, that was a little disappointing to realize we probably can't be the first to break through the motorcycle jousting. League. The other one was you talked about chain link armor a lot. So shout out to John Brinkus, RIP the sports science legend.
- [81:41]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Sure.
- [81:42]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Apparently Jason Tatum's like rookie year John Brinkus convinced Jason Tatum to try to dunk in chain link armor and he did it. And that was a sports science. And it's no way Jason Tatum dunking in chain link armor. I don't know. They apparently convinced them to simulate. Like, what if an NBA player is going to pull you down while dunking? But they literally have Jason Tatum dressed up like he's in Lord of the Rings and he just should.
- [82:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
They should wonder how heavy it was.
- [82:03]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
NBA teams should practice in chainmail.
- [82:05]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's like the donut on the back.
- [82:06]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right. So when they get into the real games, it's. You feel light as hell.
- [82:09]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Everyone should.
- [82:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Should.
- [82:10]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
NFL players should.
- [82:11]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Right.
- [82:11]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Imagine how fat Rashid he would hit 30 miles an hour if he was practicing in armor.
- [82:15]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, it's a good idea.
- [82:17]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's like rucking. Have you ever heard of rucking Rocket?
- [82:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
No.
- [82:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's a new exercise craze where you put on a really heavy backpack and walk around where there's like. It's. Yeah.
- [82:27]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Or you could.
- [82:28]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
It's. They have weight.
- [82:29]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Oh, you know what? Yeah, I think they just joked about that on snl. Yeah, I hadn't. I hadn't heard that term. Why is it called that?
- [82:36]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Rucksack, I guess. Rucking. Crazy.
- [82:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Me neither.
- [82:44]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Carrying enough around.
- [82:47]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Heavy enough burden.
- [82:49]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Rucked over here.
- [82:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah. No, no, it's too much.
- [82:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Wow. 200.
- [82:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The.
- [82:52]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The. The weight. The chain mail was 65 pounds. That's crazy.
- [82:57]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's a lot.
- [82:58]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I'm telling you. That is heavy.
- [83:00]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's like a whole 22 at. Well, yeah. Okay. We should get out of here. We have another preview coming this week and then we're going after the Super Bowl. Be on Netflix, be on Spotify, be every week. Your pods. Okay. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you. I'm going to lose track. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Cam. Thank you. Is CT here? I don't know. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, everyone. Email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com.
- [83:23]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Thank you, Abu.
- [83:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Thank you, Abu. Thank you, Lord.
- [83:26]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Lord.
- [83:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Thank you. Stu Phillips.
- [83:29]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Not Charlie Poo.
- [83:30]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Who the is he did the Knight Rider main theme. Oh, remember the Knight Rider theme from the. From the show with.
- [83:37]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, no, no, that was definitely before we were born.
- [83:40]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, I didn't watch that.
- [83:41]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like decade before we were born.
- [83:43]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The. His. His car talked to him.
- [83:47]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, that car Was like really cool. Right.
- [83:51]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Kit the car when it was talking, the little thing in front would make like it would light up. Yeah, man, you weren't. The 80s were really up to something. 1982, great year.
- [84:01]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I know. I really think we don't. We don't talk. There needs to be. We just need to be talking about the 80s. Way more pop culture standpoint.
- [84:07]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I would love to.
- [84:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Everything that happened in the 80s is completely inexplicable.
- [84:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
This is where I really shine.
- [84:11]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
What is the most inexplicable thing about the 80s you've learned from doing the rewatchables?
- [84:14]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It's just like the willingness to. To follow up on ideas and green light ideas that have just. No. No actual thought or planning.
- [84:24]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like motorcycle jousting.
- [84:25]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah, it's just like anything. They're like, yeah, let's do that.
- [84:27]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We'll greenlight that. Yeah.
- [84:28]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The amount of movies that were greenlit that like the script that wasn't even done, there wasn't even a script. And it's like, we'll figure it out on location. Like. And everyone's doing cocaine. It's remarkable. Or like the cross promotional stuff. Like there are clips from. What's Romancing the Stone, you know that movie?
- [84:43]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah, yeah.
- [84:43]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
There's like a clip of Michael Douglas and Kathleen Turner and Danny DeVito like, like on stage singing some song with like some band that makes no sense. You don't know where they are, why they're doing it. And that was like a big movie. And it would be as if like Margot Robbie and Jacob Elordi from Wuthering Heights are just like showing up and singing Counting Crows in Memphis for no reason, wearing all white suits. Like that shit would just happen all the time. And nobody, nobody batted an eye at it. It's crazy.
- [85:10]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah, those.
- [85:10]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
They had some. I'm just thinking Steven Seagal was a.
- [85:13]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Movie star in the 1980s.
- [85:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Like, that's the crazy.
- [85:16]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
It just can't happen.
- [85:17]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
John Claude Van Damme.
- [85:18]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Mike Ovitz is like Jiu Jitsu instructor who was the head of CAA at the time. And the guy was like. He was bored and was like, I'm gonna make you a movie star. And he's not a good.
- [85:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
And being like, Nathan Peterman's my quarterback. I can do anything.
- [85:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Do you have a specific movie in mind? The most 80s movie that you can think of right now?
- [85:35]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's a good question.
- [85:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Terms of. So the one that comes to my mind.
- [85:38]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Well, I can think of really bad ones that we've done.
- [85:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I have the one that immediately. I don't if it's the right answer, but literally the first thing I thought was. Was Red Dawn.
- [85:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That's what I. I just pulled this out. Look at what's on my computer.
- [85:50]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
I'm not kidding.
- [85:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I was just gonna say that.
- [85:52]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
We have not done that on the Rewatch.
- [85:53]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. Great movie, by the way. Swayze and Charlie sheen.
- [85:57]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Swayze is very 80s.
- [85:59]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, I was gonna say Swayze. The other one I was thinking of was Roadhouse.
- [86:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Roadhouse. Very 80s.
- [86:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Roadhouse, to me is maybe the most 80s.
- [86:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Super 80s.
- [86:08]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Pain, don't hurt his hair. God. It was just the. The plot is so ridiculous.
- [86:14]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Yeah.
- [86:14]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, my God, I love it. What year was Roadhouse? Hold on. 89 just snuck in there.
- [86:20]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Yeah.
- [86:21]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
But. Yeah, and then Baywatch is the.
- [86:22]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
The Baywatch is nice.
- [86:24]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
The show that I think of maybe that's too.
- [86:26]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The Family Guy where Peter just kicks thing. He's like, roadhouse.
- [86:29]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Baywatch was 89 to 2001.
- [86:31]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Okay. Yeah.
- [86:32]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Lifeguard solving crimes.
- [86:35]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
That was the greatest guard. The greatest moment and realization I've ever had that I was like, wow, that really was the plot.
- [86:42]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Also, Fox is bringing it back.
- [86:45]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
I mean, sex sells.
- [86:46]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's. That's. How much money is Sydney Sweeney getting to be in that?
- [86:50]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
All of it.
- [86:51]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's like the Don Draper drunk meme. It's a Sydney Sweeney. Baywatch.
- [86:54]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I think they were doing a casting call in. In Marina Del Rey, and I was like, dude, if you're a single man, just go hang around there. You'll see the hottest people who've ever lived.
- [87:02]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Yeah.
- [87:03]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Showing up to that.
- [87:05]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, this?
- [87:05]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
We gotta watch Red Dawn.
- [87:07]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Oh, yeah.
- [87:07]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
I'm sure it's on the rewatchables list.
- [87:09]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Watch Transformers first, and then we'll watch Red Dawn.
- [87:11]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Oh, okay.
- [87:13]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
The coldest war of all.
- [87:15]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Tango and Cash is just the name.
- [87:19]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Come on, dude. I don't know if I've seen that.
- [87:21]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Stallone and Russell. Kurt Russell.
- [87:23]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
It's pretty great.
- [87:23]
Host 3 (likely Danny Kale)
Tango and Cash. You know which one I was trying. I thought that you meant the one with Tom Hanks and the dog.
- [87:30]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
Turner and Hoot.
- [87:33]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
That's what I thought you were talking.
- [87:35]
Host 2 (likely Craig Horlbeck)
About, which I. Oh.
- [87:40]
Host 1 (likely Bill Simmons)
Goodbye, everyone. Sam.