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Week 1 Recap: Bills-Ravens Shocker, Rodgers’s Steelers, Tua Turntheballova, and Lions Panic
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Foreign welcome to the Ring of Fantasy Football show. My name is Danny Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korbeck. And Sunday night football is over. Ravens, Bills, absolutely epic game. We are going to go through all time. All that was actually an all time. We're going through everything that happened on Sunday night. We're going through winners. We're going through winners. I said that already. Losers also, in addition, winners, winners, winners, winners.
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We're not talking about a single loser today.
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Certified winners only. Also, just a quick reminder, our schedule for the in season be Sunday night reactions, Monday night football reactions and waiver ads for you to add to your fantasy teams in the middle of the week. And also power hour on Wednesdays and then Friday previews. But yeah man, Sunday night football and all of week one reactions right now. But first we're going to take a quick break. This episode of the Ringer Fantasy Football show is presented by Hyundai. The all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid proves that an incredible SUV is so much more than the sum of its parts. It's more than a spacious interior. It's more than being able to navigate difficult terrain. And it's way more than driving farther than you ever thought possible. It's the all new Hyundai Palisade hybrid. So much more than just another SUV. Visit Hyundai USA.com or call 562-314-4603 for more details. We have a joke on our Friday show that every week we have a game of the year dk. I actually think that was the game of the year Bill's Ravens just finished. I actually think that was the best game that we'll see the entire year.
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C
So bills 41, Ravens 40. The bill the Ravens had a 40 to 25 lead at one point late or like mid early fourth quarter I guess.
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B
I think 11 minutes left. Derek Henry ran in a 30 yard touchdown to go up by 15.
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C
Absolutely brutal meltdown by the Ravens. This game reminded me of that Rams Chiefs game from a few years ago where everybody got all jacked up. It kind of felt like it ushered in a new era of football. But yeah, there's two great quarterbacks just absolutely dueling. It was super fun.
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B
This sucks. This is like when your two sons are playing against one another. I'm like, I feel so bad for Lamar, but I love Josh and the builds are awesome and this is really cool but God, Lamar, it keeps losing. I feel terrible.
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A
The Raven scored 40 points in week one and lost. I don't. I I wish I had that stat in front of me. That never happens. That never happens.
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C
From my buddy Dante Koppelwisk Fleming. 40 teams with 40 plus points and 235 rushing yards. I know that's kind of specific, but that's what they had. Are we 277 and 0 before today. Now they're 277 and 1.
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A
Wait, you said that's 40 points. 235 rushing yards. 2. 77 0.
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B
This score was a score. There's never been a 4140 NFL game before.
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A
Oh my God. So this, this was an all time game. Honestly, there was so much to talk about before the collapse. But we have to start with the collapse which is.
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B
I feel like. Do you. Was it a collapse? Derek Henry fumbled and then they went three and out. And it's like I get. I guess that's a collapse.
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C
A two score game.
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B
It is.
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You know it is a collapse. And here is why. The Ravens should have beaten the Bills in this stadium at the end of last season and they didn't. Cause Mark Andrews dropped the ball.
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B
It's their worst loss since the last time they played the Bills since their previous game.
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C
Since their last game.
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Game which they went into this game talking about how important it was to avenge that loss. They went and kicked the out of the bills for like 56 minutes. We're up. And then they gave up 16 points in the final four minutes. And I can't even imagine. And guess what? The season before that the Ravens also collapsed. Because the Ravens also should have beaten the Chiefs in the AFC championship game that year and then went into week one last season and they lost to the Chiefs in week one last year.
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B
Was that the straight. See, was that the Isaiah likely toe touch game?
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That was the toe touch game and the championship. This is two straight game. Two straight years. The Ravens last playoff loss. They then played that team in week one and then had their hearts ripped out. This one might be worse. This episode is brought to you by Disney, Hulu and espn. Now you can get all of ESPN in the new ESPN app along with Disney and Hulu with a limited time offer. The biggest sports, movies and shows in one bundle, all for just $29.99 a month for 12 months. Visit Disney Hulu ESPN bundle.com for details. Ad supported plan auto renews at regular price. Currently $35.99 a month. Subject to change unless canceled. Ends January 5, 2026. Terms apply. I mean I, I, I, I just decay. That's that really sums it up because that matches the eye test there's no.
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C
Way they should have lost this game.
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Teams never lose when you. I just got to go through the. There's so many things about this and I hate again the Bills. We're going to get to the magic of it. But I do just want to say Zay Flowers had 140 yards. He didn't play in that game in the playoffs. Lamar Jack, Derek Henry averaged almost 10 yards a carry. This was unbelievable. But yeah, I mean the Bills, I mean Josh Allen threw for. I mean Josh Allen completed 33 of 46 passes through for 394 yards and two touchdowns. Not to mention Josh Allen also had 30 carry, 30 yards and two rushing touchdowns. I, you could go on Keon Coleman, 112 yards, eight catches, two point conversion, probably the best game of his entire career. You could go on and on and on. But I think the thing that's probably going to stick with me the most.
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B
In this game, I don't think he did have a two point conversion.
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A
Well, there were four. I think he caught one and then dropped the other one.
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C
Right.
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So many.
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B
And then they didn't. He had the one that he caught but he went out of bounds. They negated it. And then he had the one at the end of the game which he didn't catch. Did he? Was there another one?
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A
There was. They didn't they get one of four. I, I can't even keep track.
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B
It was crazy. Crazy is, is if the most recent touchdown the Bill scored, if they got the two point conversion, they might lose this game a hundred percent.
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A
If, if, if they had Ravens had actually not tackled Keon Coleman in that last play and then they went in, the Ravens would have gotten the ball back and maybe they could have gone.
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B
Down and went that two point conversion that could have tied the game. If they get that, the Ravens probably just march down the field, eat the clock and win the game.
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Which is crazy. It's. This was an insane, this was an all timer. But I'm curious. We think Josh Allen, at the end of the game they interviewed him and they were just like, they basically asked him what he was thinking. He was like to the fans who left this game, that's totally okay. But next time please have some faith.
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C
Yeah, yeah.
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And I'm like, I don't know. Dk, where is, where is Josh Allen for you right now in just terms of genuinely like magical athletes?
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B
Dk, hold on. Before you answer that.
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A
That's my question.
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B
No, but H brought up a good.
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C
Point before actually the opposite.
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B
You asked a two prong you had you set up a two pronged situation. And I want to touch on the first part, please. Dk as a, as a father of a. How old is Calvin?
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C
Six. Six.
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B
Yeah. It's Sunday night. You're at this game. Let's say you are a Bills fan. You got school the next day, they're down 15. It's, it's almost midnight.
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C
You stop the Ravens yet?
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B
Yeah, it's, you're, you're like, man, I gotta take him to school tomorrow. If I don't, if I stay for this game, it's going to take me an hour to get out of here. Do you respect the fans that left?
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C
I don't hate them. I don't like disrespect them. I don't think I would have left because I've seen Josh Allen do this before. You know what I mean? Like I've seen like we, we do say we, we categorize this and we're sort of like saying it, it, it was a meltdown, but it was a two score game. It was 15 points. That's not like.
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B
It wasn't a meltdown. It was just a devastating loss.
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A
Teams in that situation were, as a wise man once told me, 277 teams.
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C
None of those teams were playing. Josh Allen is the key thing here. Josh Allen, to answer your question, Heifetz is, I think he has turned in and it's so ironic because of what he was coming out of college and everyone was, you know, just not a believer. And even in his first year or two, he was really wildly just inaccurate and all this stuff. And then he was the one of one who got that all cleaned up and figured it out. I would say Josh Allen now is the prototype quarterback. Size, arm strength, escapability, efficiency. He was actually one of the most efficient quarterbacks last year too. In addition to what he does and changes the math and the red zone, all that stuff, I don't think I, I, you could probably say Lamar and actually I actually want to just steal a tweet from Scott Barrett, our buddy who said there may not be another quarterback like Josh Allen for 20 years. We may never see a Lamar Jackson again. And this might have been, probably was the best game we'll watch all year. Which I'm, I think that just like sums it up. Like if I would say the two top three top quarterbacks are obviously. Well, there's four if you count Burrow but Mahomes, Josh Allen and Lamar and we saw two of these guys tonight in, in just like a Back and forth game. I don't know, man. It's just like, yeah, it's. It's so fun to watch these guys play.
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B
It's so crazy because, like, the fact that neither of these guys have ever been in a Super bowl is so. Is so weird, honestly. The fact that it's always Mahomes, it's like, you know, remember seeing those, like, videos where it's like, it shows, like, our solar system. You're like, wow, that's really big. And then, like, zooms out and it's like, actually, it's one of a zillion galaxies. And you're like, wow, that's really big. That's like Lamar and Josh Allen. And then it zooms out again, and it's Patrick Mahomes who just beats either of them whenever they play.
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Totally.
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But as soon as one of these guys wins the super bowl, though, and that's the thing is I. Maybe other people do. I don't look at Joshua Lamar through the lens of. Well, they've never won one. I'm like, clearly, these are so. They've already done some of the best things I've ever seen in a football field. I look at it like Giannis, where I'm like, as soon as Giannis won, everyone just was like, yeah, I just can appreciate this person now. Or yoke.
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B
Yeah.
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Yeah. And it's. I don't know. It's. You don't. You didn't actually have to wait for Jokic to go and win a title to just appreciate Jokic. Like, it wasn't like, they had crazy failures in the playoffs. Maybe Lamar's had more challenges than Josh, but I'm like, I've seen some pretty incredible things from these guys. Like, I think if you. I would not let the lack of a Super bowl appearance get in the way of just. This is. We are in an absolutely incredible age of quarterbacking. Like, we had a little stop gap between Brady Breeze, Eli Rothsberger, Rivers, those guys aging out, and a little bit of a. Of an in between. But I'm like, the. The. What we are seeing right now, we are in an absolute golden era. We are going to look back the same way you had, you know, Dan Marino, Joe Montana, like the 80s. Like, this is an unbelievable point. Guess what? All these guys are in their prime, like, Josh Allen, Lamar, this. There. We might look at this game as maybe the midpoint of, like, their careers of just. Is some of the best quarterbacking I've ever seen. Josh just going over and space jamming in that the Two point con. I can't even keep track of what was the touchdown. It was no, it's a touchdown where they got to the one yard line. They went at the two over I I just I I don't know. I I He is this was an I I just I don't I'm literally speechless.
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Want to know something wild? The craziest thing about this game is the fucking Ravens almost blocked that kick at the end. They were so close to they like got through the line. So I some one or two guys got through the line and basically just missed when they when the ball 100%. I'm like, oh my God.
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Sliding doors. That really would have made it one of the craziest regular season games of all time and things we're not even talking about because the ending was so amazing. Derek Henry stiff arming another Bill's cornerback into oblivion after he already did the Josh Norman thing from years ago. That was a meme.
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C
The Wilhelm scream de yeah will homes.
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DeAndre Hopkins having what I thought was like the maybe the best player all day. We're at the one handed catch into the end zone. I and then and my takeaway from this game before this loss was actually that Lamar and Derrick Henry are the best backfield in the history of the NFL. And we somehow don't talk about this enough that like this is the craziest. It's like a thought experiment. What if Lamar Jackson could run a read option with Derrick Henry? That'd be crazy. And then they play where lamar runs for 30 yards on the scramble. He ran 20 yards backwards and then ran 50 to gain 30. And then the next play, Derrick Henry got 30. I'm like I can't believe these guys play together, dude.
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Grant Barfield tweeted this earlier today. I don't know if it's still exactly right, but Derek Henry in his time with the Ravens is averaging more yards per carry than Price Young is averaging yards per pass. So that's something.
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And also it, it needs to be said what Josh Allen is doing with his surrounding cast. Like not, not not that Khalil Shakir and Josh Palmer and Keon Coleman and Don are scrubs or anything like that. But man, like this guy is is really doing some things with a pretty mediocre crew and he's. And I mean Stefan Diggs was very good but the last two seasons, now what we saw last year and now what he's doing this year, he has gone up a level and he lost his best wide receiver just I guess like mahomes and Tyreek for. For a little bit there.
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But man, perfect example of it's very similar to the homeless Tyreek thing where obviously the Chiefs get rid of Tyreek Hill in a weird situation because Christian Kirk got a raise and Tyree killed now suddenly wanted more money and the Chiefs were like, well, we can't pay that. I guess we'll take picks. And then the Chiefs went and won two Super Bowls without Tyree Kill. Similarly, the Bills got rid of digs. The difference is the Chiefs offense without Tyree Kill sucked. The defense got better and the Chiefs learned to eke out wins without Tyreek and kind of just ugly but made all these wins happen. At the end. The Bills offense genuinely is like better and has seemed better in some ways. Without stiff on things. There's a meanness, there's a running element. Obviously tonight the Bills offense was stagnant for portions and then was extremely not stagnant. But Josh as a player seems to have gone up a level without Diggs. And this is. It's funny because it's a giant exclamation point on why he was MVP is for exactly what you said. Derek Henry makes Lamar's life easier except for the fumble and then Josh is coming out and doing this. But it's so crazy how the Bills, I mean all these things that don't matter now like the Bills defensive tackles and everything. But I the. It's funny because I, I guess in a nutshell, watching this game, my takeaways. The Ravens are like kind of clearly a better team. The Ravens are a better team. They're better organized. The running game are able to dominate.
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The Bills is probably better.
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Yeah.
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Also, their defense was getting dinged up throughout the entire game.
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Yes. And yeah, Kyle Hamilton went in and out. Well, both. I guess both secondaries kind of. There was attrition. But I do think at this point you almost have to think that mentally the Ravens are always going to have the stuff in the back of their mind until they make a Super bowl and the Bill like they just will. Like the Ravens are always going to be in the back of their mind and maybe, I don't know something. I don't know what it is with this.
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It's human nature, man. When the big moments start happening and then you're just thinking, oh God, I don't want to fuck it up again.
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Yeah. So anyway, that was. I know I'm a hyperbolic sometimes, but that's the most incredible game I've seen in some time. Do you guys have any of Thoughts on that?
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During this game I was just like for 3/4 of it I was like, well, that was stupid that I picked Josh Allen to win the MVP and the Bills to win the Super Bowl. And then now I'm like, hell yeah, I picked Josh Allen to win the MVP in the best.
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B
Just to read some stats. I don't know if we've done that. Josh Allen, 394 passing yards, two touchdowns. He also ran for 30 yards and two more touchdowns. James Lamar threw for 200, threw for two touchdowns, ran for 70 in a touchdown. Derek Henry, 165 yards, two touchdowns. So this was on this day. This game was the fantasy savior. This whole week was a disaster, as all week ones have been. You know, when you look at the. The projections in your. In your Yahoo app, it's like red or green. If your team's going to over underperform, everyone's is always red. Week one. Except if you went into this game. I went into this game down 50 with Lamar and Derrick Henry on my team. I was like, all right, I have a decent shot. I like won by halftime. It was unbelievable. And it's. It just goes to show, this is what we say. Draft the best players on the best teams and you always have a fighting chance. Just like these teams always have a fighting chance if you have a guy like Josh Allen.
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Yeah. Is next year when we do the memento tattoos at the end of the season. My first one is going to be listen to the tattoos because that was the first thing we had was take the players from the good teams because it's not just fun, it's because they're sick. Yeah. But. Yeah. DK I. Any. Any party thoughts on this game? That really it was. I was honestly magical. I feel spoiled by that.
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C
Yeah. I don't know. I just want to like, make sure to center. Center myself and continually remind myself that I'm watching greatness every time. Like the Ravens play, every time the Bills play, every time the Chiefs play and the Bengals. I mean, but Joe Burrow wasn't very good today. But just watching these quarterbacks, it's like a blessing.
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B
I'm happy that Mark Andrews didn't do anything wrong, though.
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C
Seriously.
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Mark Andrews fumbled.
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Do you think 1% of him is like, thank God. Yes.
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Oh, yeah.
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Now finally people are off my back. Derrick Henry fumbles too. Oh, God.
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Yes. I do think he thinks that deep. Downed it the deepest recess.
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We'll make the playoffs. It's fine.
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Almost relieved. Yes. Oh, my God. Okay, so let's get to Rest of the categories here. Other. So other than Bill's Ravens. Yeah. Winner, winners and losers of the day.
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B
Yep.
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Craig, I'm just going to give you the floor.
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Craig's been holding this back for the last several hours here.
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We've had Craig on a leash.
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C
Oh, my God. If you're listening, Craig, just put on a Steelers hat.
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Yeah, baby. Rogers is back. The Steelers are back. Fuck the Jets. Fuck the Jets. Fuck the stupid Jets.
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Can we get Sean on? We got to get Sean.
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B
Sean and I were texting. I would send I emojis when we scored, and then he would send two imojis when the jets would score. And I was. I was on pins and needles hoping that the. The Steelers would eke out. This game. This game rocked. But until. Really before the Bills. I look ridiculous in this hat. Before the Bills.
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It's from the video. You're getting all bottom of the frame.
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C
Like a little kid wearing a hat.
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I look like. Like when you have the 0.5 lens on the iPhone and you just look like all noses.
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C
That's fisheye.
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But. But until Sunday Night Football, the Steelers jets was the game of the day. Everything else sucked. The 34, 31 Steelers. This game rocked. Like, the narratives were great, too, because they weren't really that real or deeply entrenched. Right. It was like this revenge game that was, like, kind of fake. It's not like these were these teams.
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Aaron Rogers. It was fake.
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Not to my boy Aaron. Four touchdowns.
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Did you see his quote at the end of the game?
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B
Yeah.
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C
They were like. I can't remember what he said. Maybe it was like, did it give you pleasure to do that to Aaron Glenn?
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B
I watched it four times. I'll tell you exactly what the reporter asked. Did this feel extra good after Aaron Glenn said to your face that you were not the right fit for the franchise? He goes, that is exactly what happened. And, yeah, I was happy to beat everybody associated with the Jets. That was a great answer.
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Just a little bit.
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Kind of like Aaron Rodgers today. Yeah, that was a great game. He obviously had four. He had four touchdown passes. I think on one point where he had four touchdowns on 17 attempts or something like that.
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Yeah. He completed 2230 passes, 244 yards and four touchdowns. Averaged eight yards a pass. And honestly looked better than that. I mean, like, the nature of them. They were all just really good play calls. And it's funny, he.
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C
The run game wasn't doing.
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B
There's. There's a few things that Rogers did well that I will. That I appreciate more than I expected because the Steelers have not had a quarterback that basically listened to their offensive coordinator and was good at the same time. Since prime Ben Roethlisberger, which is like 10 years ago, it's either been park and bark old Ben Roethlisberger standing in shotgun or it's been shitty quarterbacks. What Aaron Rodgers did this year that in this game that he did not do in the jets last year was, was take the ball under center and run play action and turn his back to the defense and that is him working with Arthur Smith. And honestly you have to give that up to, to the coaching and to Aaron Rodgers because Robert Sala and whatever was going on with the jets last year did not convince him to do that and Arthur Smith and Mike Tomlin did. And I thought it made a huge difference. And a lot of the, the biggest plays of the day came from Aaron Rodgers under center or Aaron Rodgers turning his back to the defense and running play action. He completed 6 of 8 play action pass for 75 yards and three touchdowns, which is tied for the most touchdowns on play action passes in a game for Aaron Rodgers since 2016. So he clearly made a concerted effort to play differently. And he even said that in the post game presser. He was like. A lot, a lot of people were talking about how I wouldn't, I couldn't fit in the system and I couldn't work with Arthur Smith and none of this works.
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A
Aaron, thank you for listening to the show.
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C
He hears, he hears a lot of stuff. Sure.
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B
All these athletes do, he reads it all. This was great. I'm all out of fluids.
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A
I. Jesus. I will say the only, the only thing that I want to put a pin in just if it comes up later, is that the same issue the Steelers had is the inability to run the same thing the jets had last in yards, last in carries last year. Steelers obviously have not been able to run as much as they want. Having said that, you look at just frankly sometimes in underrated stat, how many people caught a cat caught a ball in this game? I mean DK Metcalf had four catches, Calvin Austin had four catches, Pat Friermuth at three, Ben Scaronic had a touchdown. Jalen Warren, Jonah Smith, Ken Gainwell, like Aaron Rodgers spread the ball around in a sense that reminded me of when he was with the packers and winning MVPs of sometimes him or Drew Brees would be like those little stats of completed nine passes to nine different people.
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B
That was always the Drew Brees special.
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A
Yeah. And I think that that was something Where I think actually Rogers and Arthur Smith actually have a lot in common is their desire to throw it to random people all the time on random plays and they don't really care. And so I, yeah, I, I'm not. This was crazy impressive on the Steelers part, but at the same time the whole game swung because the jets fumbled a kick return and honestly, if they had not fumbled the kick, the Steelers scored, Jets fumbled the kick return and then Steelers scored like two plays. So in a minute the Steelers got 14 points. The jets might have won this game. And I will say, even in defeat, I don't necessarily believe in moral victories.
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B
But the jets, you're not, you're not giving this to Rogers. I mean, Josh Allen would have lost if Derrick Henry didn't fumble. But we're saying Josh is the goat.
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A
I'm not, no, I'm, I'm saying I don't believe in world victory. I'm saying like the Steelers won. Like the Steelers won the game. The Jets.
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B
Speaker 3 you know, we're like, well, they would have lost if he didn't fumble the ball. I'm like, well that's football.
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A
No, I was trying to transition.
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C
Well, yeah, he was making a segue to my winner, which was Justin Fields, I think. Justin Field. Well, basically Justin Fields, Breece hall and the whole jets offense was so much better than I expected in pretty much every way.
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B
They were great.
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C
First of all, Justin Fields, I think had the best game of his career. 100% 16 to 22, 218 yards pass, touchdown. He also added two touchdowns and 48 yards on the ground. Yep, 10 designed runs. So they were utilizing him and using, using his feet to make things happen in the run game. Justin Fields 29.5 fantasy points. The idea that he was the fantasy sleeper of the year is really paying or is, is really happening so far at least obviously after one game. But I think the other thing that was really interesting and cool to me was Justin Fields last year was kind of all over the place. His accuracy, he was just slow getting the ball out. He was incredibly accurate in this game passing the ball down the field. I saw this from Jacob Gibbs. Early starting has Justin Fields with 0% off target rate. And a lot of that was all down. Like a huge chunk of his throws were 10 plus yards down the field. They were pushing it down the field.
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B
He was fantastic. The running game in general was great and it looked like they simplified the game in a really nice way where it was basically run, run, run play action pass. And because of the success of the run game. It really allowed Fields to kind of have these nice open targets to hit, but he put the ball right on the money. Like, the Garrett Wilson touchdown was right on the money. He really didn't make a bad play. I mean, I guess the last play of the game, some people think he should have held onto the ball, but it was still a great throw to Garrett Wilson. There were moments in the game where I was like, I honestly, he, he felt like Lamar Jackson in moments. I was like, I don't know how you stop him.
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I feels the athleticism popped so much, even on, even on the ball, where a play where he reached for the end zone and didn't get it, he just was, he's so big, he's so strong, he's so athletic. Frankly, the thing that when scouts talk about sounds weird, his hand size, but like the ability of what he's able to do with like reaching the ball, pulling it back. Like he was doing spins while holding onto the ball. Like, I've never seen quarter. I don't know, I, I just, I was so blown away by how fucking big and fast he is. Where sometimes I, I know, I, I think I said this offseason so many times that he has the second most rushing yards by quarterback in the history of the NFL where I was like, am I saying this too much? I'm like, no, this has always been there. And I, I, I got it. I know it's one game. You don't want to overreact to one game. Having said that, if you think there's a team that would give Justin Fields a good matchup in week one, it's the team that just saw him play last year. He's on their team. You think they'd have a good game plan for him? I mean, the jets, at least it's a different staff. This is the same staff that just saw just some Fields and so, but to your guys's point, I agree with the accuracy. I forget the exact moment, but he had one play. I think with Fields it was a mix of accuracy and processing. Decision making was the question with him. And it wasn't just the beginning with the script, but there were moments where, I don't know, there's something that happens sometimes. The quarterbacks that resuscitate the careers 26ish years old, were they just on third down, just start realizing with urgency that they kind of get back like, oh shit, I got to do this right now. And they just rip a pass sometimes over a hash marker over. And he had A couple of those in this game where I was like, okay, maybe the clock. You saw this with Baker Mayfield in the Bucks, like, that's really what happening is, like, the recognition of urgency, of, like, I have to make this throw right now in this moment. And that combined with the. The ability to extend the plays. I don't know. I thought he was. Frankly, I thought that he was going to suck in real life and be an incredible Russian cheat code in fantasy. I. It suddenly feels a little more real that Fields might actually be a good.
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C
Quarterback, which I got another part three like me. It's like every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in.
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A
He could still suck, but if he was going to be good, it would look like this. That's all.
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C
And I wanted to also just give a quick shout out to Breece hall, who looked awesome. He. He had juice again in this game, because I think last year was very true. And Craig was first to point this out, that he just did not seem to have the juice that he had the previous year coming off of an injury. And he played hurt for most of the season, but, man, he was really shifty in this game. He had 90 yards after contact, and he. I mean, he didn't. It was like a massive game, but he had a hundred yards, 107 yards rushing, plus 38 yards receiving. And Braylon Allen, I mean, six carries for nine yards and touchdowns. So, like, that preseason narrative, at least in one game, completely went back to Bree. So that was pretty cool to see for Breeze looked awesome.
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B
You're right, dk. And as quickly as I noticed last year in the first game that he had nothing, I noticed this year, I.
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A
Was like, oh, he looks like.
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B
He looks different.
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C
He just had the juice. He had the explosiveness.
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B
Yeah, it just proves that, I guess he was injured last year and playing through it the entire year because he looked like a completely different guy today.
- [27:22]
A
Do you think? I think for fantasy next year, we should just push for subpoena power on hipaa. We should just. Instead of letting players get medical privacy, we should actually get to, like, what's.
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C
The Freedom of Information Act?
- [27:32]
A
Yeah, we should get the FOIA there.
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C
Foia These head. Like. Yeah, we're.
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B
Can I read you two more Steeler stats? Then we can move on. I promise.
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A
Please.
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B
Okay. So the Steelers scored a touchdown on the opening drive today, which in week one is the first time the Steelers have done that since 2008.
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C
Jesus.
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B
Yeah.
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C
What were you doing in 2008, Craig?
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B
Oh, I was.
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A
He was out of Fluids. That's what he was doing in 2000.
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C
Right.
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B
I was entering high school. I was five two, 110 pounds. Also they didn't have a single opening drive touchdown last year. So.
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A
Wow.
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B
And Then Aaron Rodgers today, 136.7 passer rating, which is the highest passer rating a Steelers quarterback has had since week 10 of 2008.
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A
I. I gotta tell you, I'm. I'm gonna just pull something out. I said it in the tape purge but. Well, it's hard after watching the Bills Ravens game. But I gotta tell you, if the Steelers. No, I would say I. Brett. There's just crazy parallels between Rogers's career and Brett Favre's. Like, like really weird. Yeah, like just the 15 exact years of Green Bay and then being traded to the jets and then like that looking good and then being terrible and then far have ended with the Vikings and then Rogers and Steelers. But Farve ended with he should have gone to the super bowl and he really made it to the two minute warning in the NFC championship game. And I'm just saying crazy parallels of this season with Rogers is actually good.
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B
They're going to lose to Seattle next week.
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A
They're going to. Yeah, they're going to get crushed.
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B
They're going to lose. It's going to be 21.
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A
My winner of this week is just Green Bay and Michael Parsons and making that trade. That.
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C
Yeah, dude, their defense.
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B
Yeah, that worked out.
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C
Yeah, really good.
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A
Great call. Good move.
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C
Turns out having an elite pass rusher is a good thing.
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A
Packers rock Detroit 2713 classic game. I, I think last year I wanted to call these friend zone games where it's like it. See they look close but if you were there, you'd like they had no shot.
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B
This game was not close.
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A
It was 27 to 6 with five minutes left. I guess if Green. If Detroit had Josh Allen, that would matter. But the packers put up 17 points in their first three drives and then just control dominated line of scrimmage. I think the game in a nutshell is the packers got a lot of pressure without blitzing and the Lions did not get pressure. And they blitzed a lot. And you could see it. And I mean Micah Parsons got his first sack as a Packer. A lot of people were making jokes. It looked like a lion running down a gazelle like Jared Goff. Another Michael Parsons pressure led to a pick. Michael Parsons beaten Penny se multiple times. But this, this stat I couldn't believe. I think Tony Roma said this in the broadcast. Fifteen of Detroit's 21 rushes were hit at or behind the line of scrimmage, which is the most ever for a Dan Campbell coach team, which I think that kind of sums it up. And that is. That is how you end. The Lions had 49 straight games at the touchdown and the line. This would have been the 50th Lions did not score a touchdown today.
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C
The Lions just. And look, there's a lot of variables here, and I think the packers offense is going to be good. The Lions just look nothing like the Lions in this game. It's deeply concerning. If you are like, I'm gonna just one of. One of my, like, sort of intrusive thoughts, and we'll get to that later. But one of my intrusive thoughts was like, okay, so Ben Johnson was just the reason the Lions were great for the last couple of years. Obviously, I don't think that's completely true. And I. And I'm sure it's a long season. We'll see the Lions do a lot better, but, man, their offense just couldn't do check in this game.
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B
It's troubling.
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C
Yeah.
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A
I mean, yeah. I mean, here's the thing.
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C
Here's what I was saying.
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A
They were physical.
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C
I've seen Jared Goff collapse a few too many times in his career. I think he's a good quarterback. I think he's a really good quarterback. And I've, like, gone too far in my Jared Goff, like, slander in the past and whatever. I think he's a good quarterback. But we saw. We saw, like, the difference that it made when he went from shit. Who was his coach as a rookie year. That was like, Jeff Fisher. When he went from Jeff FISER To Sean McV, he had the worst rookie.
- [31:31]
A
Season by some advanced metrics ever at the time.
- [31:34]
C
And then Sean McVeigh, like, helped him completely turn his career around. He was awesome from there on out. And then I think that relationship fizzled a little bit. Jared Goff lost his confidence, and McVeigh was like, I got to get rid of this guy. And then, you know, in comes Ben Johnson and he helps resurrect Jared Goff's career again. So, like, a second sort of act in Jared Goff's career. And, you know, I think he was really good for him. And so, like, now I'm just a little bit worried that based on what we saw today, that we're going to have, like, another regression here.
- [32:03]
B
I feel like the line in the Bears Vikings game will change because of what we saw in this Lions game today. Like it will show you. Holy shit. Ben Johnson is very important. Even seeing Tanner Angstrand who was the offensive. Who was the past game coordinator for the Lions, he is now the offensive coordinator for the Jets. And we saw what the jets did today. I'm like, I am now more bullish on what I'm about to see tomorrow night out of Ben Johnson.
- [32:27]
A
Let me tell you something. After the reporting Tyler Dunn has done at Go along.
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B
Yeah, yeah.
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A
Which we don't have. We don't. We can get into tomorrow night. Yeah. If the Bears play great, I will be.
- [32:38]
C
Ben Johnson is a guy.
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A
If you haven't seen that incredible substack Tyler Dunn and substack at one of the best with a alarming reporting around Caleb Williams. We'll get to tomorrow. But yeah, I. It. You don't want to overreact to week one, but yeah, it feels like something you could look back to and be like, that was the changing of the guard in this division. Like the Lions had their moment and it's the packers moment now.
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B
Austin.
- [33:01]
A
That's what it felt like.
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B
Austin just sent us a stat. The Lions rushing success rate was 22% against the packers today, which was the worst since December 2022 for Detroit.
- [33:10]
A
Yeah, they just couldn't run the game.
- [33:11]
C
Did not have any teeth at all.
- [33:13]
A
No. Okay, so then next up here, the. The I am become death Oppenheimer award for the player who went nuclear.
- [33:22]
C
The most out of left field game of the week. Not that.
- [33:27]
B
Unfortunately for us.
- [33:28]
C
Yeah, not that I had like a shitload of faith in the Dolphins, but my God.
- [33:34]
A
Nate. Test was like, our expectations for you were low, but holy.
- [33:37]
C
Yeah, that was really bad. Daniel Jones lit up the Dolphins.
- [33:42]
B
The game was over like immediately.
- [33:44]
C
He had like 29 fantasy points. Daniel Jones.
- [33:47]
A
No, just Daniel Jones basically had the same amount of fantasy points as Fields, which until Josh Allen Lamar happened, was the number one for quarterback all day.
- [33:55]
C
I saw this stat. I need to go back and make sure this is true. But the Colts scored on all seven of their drives in this game, which is the first team to do that since 1977.
- [34:05]
A
That is. How is that possible? Part. I think that's a little fudge because. No, it's true. It's. So the Colts won this game 33 to 8. And it actually wasn't that close. Like 33 to 8. No, it's.
- [34:18]
C
I mean, look, the. The Colts definitely benefited a lot from Tua's ineptitude. He and he. His turnovers were atrocious. They were gifted short fields and Then all of a sudden, it just snowballed for them. But Daniel Jones played pretty well.
- [34:31]
A
Well, it's tough for Tua because he has a new head coach. Wait, no, he doesn't. He's a new play caller. But wait. No, no. Well, he's.
- [34:39]
B
Receivers are new receivers. Yeah.
- [34:40]
A
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no. It's like, what the fuck happened? Mike McDaniel. Holy shit. I tough. This is.
- [34:46]
B
The vibes are horrific. Tyreek Hill was, like, yelling on the sidelines. It was. It was bad. It was really, really bad. Dolphins.
- [34:55]
C
We're idiots.
- [34:56]
A
No, because the Colts. Dude, I. Daniel.
- [34:58]
C
The Colts's vibes were pretty bad.
- [34:59]
A
I believe we said on Friday, if Daniel Jones beats us, we'll live with it.
- [35:02]
B
You know what?
- [35:03]
A
We're gonna live with it. Like, I like. All right, cool. Daniel Jones was, like, a top guy in the day, but he would. The irony is, I don't think Daniel Jones played that well. He had, like, three good throws. He missed a couple screens. It was really like the Colts defense.
- [35:15]
B
He had two rushing touches.
- [35:16]
A
The Dolphins could not move the ball. That was the problem. The Dolphins had 43 yards at halftime. I will say that again. The Dolphins had 43 yards at halftime.
- [35:27]
B
And the Colts had 43 plays at halftime.
- [35:30]
C
Yes, man.
- [35:31]
A
Maybe it was 33, but, yeah, they had the same 33.
- [35:34]
B
You're right.
- [35:34]
A
Forty minutes into the game. So two thirds, the Colts had three different players that had more yards than Miami did.
- [35:42]
B
It was Miami's. It was Miami's fewest yards at halftime since at least 1991, which is when.
- [35:48]
A
They started tracking that. But it's probably been significantly more than that because that's when Dan Marino was the fucking quarterback. So it's probably been at least five, like, 40 or 50 years.
- [35:55]
B
You think Tua will be a starting quarterback ever again after this year?
- [36:00]
A
I. I mean, yes, but this was. I mean, yeah, this was horrific. Someone joked that you think he'll be.
- [36:05]
B
Traded to another team to start.
- [36:08]
A
I mean, he will play for someone. Yeah, he's. I don't. I don't. I don't know if two is the problem, but I. I do think. Mike McDaniels.
- [36:16]
C
You know what I noticed about this game? And I'm sure the tape heads will have some thoughts on this later after they dig into the L22. But for whatever reason, it was immediately noticeable to me that TUA was not getting rid of the ball quickly in this game. He was dropping back. And the TUA thing, the Dolphins thing, the whole crux of their offense, the Whole system is predicated on him hitting his back foot and getting the ball out. Right. And I, I put, I wrote down what he averaged like 2.55 seconds per throw, which is significantly, significantly slower than what he had last year. He. Where he led the NFL in time to throw in terms of the quickest throwing after a drop back. So he was like middle of the road this week. And so I don't know, man. They were just giving them looks and not. He didn't have. He didn't trust what he was looking at. Carlos says the big Lou effect. I think that's totally true. Lou Anarumu was just. It was making him hard. It was making it hard for Tua to know what he was seeing and get rid of the ball quickly.
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A
There's a. Yeah, there's a lot going. I'm curious to see if the Colts ended up copying what the Bills have done to two in the past because I think there's a lot of things the Bills have figured out. But to his play, which is basically make him push the ball to the boundaries and down the red line and just down the hashes and being like, yeah, he probably can't. But overall it's just deeply concerning. Like I really do. I deeply concerning game for Miami. I do want to say about the Colts importantly speaking. Louie in a room with Cam Bynum had an interception of tua. And Cam Bynum's the undisputed king of defensive celebrations. He's the only innovator the NFL has because he's the guy who did all the rom com dance celebrations last year. And then today he intercepted Tua and he did the pretending to limp into the end zone and did some crazy.
- [37:58]
B
Dance and he did the. It's like the side worm.
- [38:01]
A
Yes. Where you just wanted to shout a.
- [38:03]
B
Camera sideways, which is honestly one of the more athletic things I've ever seen an athlete do is the sideworm.
- [38:09]
A
That's really impressive. It was like the reverse Erle and the sideworm. But then Tyler Warren also played great.
- [38:14]
B
Yeah. Little mini category. I'm going to bring back the debutante ball for the player who matured in front of our very eyes. Tyler Warren, he has arrived. He's here and he, he is real and he is spectacular. Tyler Warren today, he was great. Everything we saw in the preseason translated immediately to week one. And we, you know, in the, in the preseason we talked about if there was a guy that you could take in the later rounds at tight end who we thought had a real shot to kind of finish in that four spot behind the big three. McBride, Bowers and Kittle. We thought it was Tyler Warren and it immediately looks like it is.
- [38:48]
C
They were tied in four on the week so far.
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B
Tight end four on the week so far. He was awesome and Daniel Jones threw to him a ton and he just immediately looks big, fast, great hands and like he is going to be a guy in the league for the next 10 years.
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A
He looks great. You want to shout out to true media and stat head I found a fun fact.
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B
Sure.
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A
If you look at literally every tight ends NFL debut ever going back to like the 60s literally one tight end had in the history of the NFL ever had more than six catches in their debut like one guy ever. Today two tight ends did that. It was Tyler Warren and Harold Van More tight ends had had they both had seven catches that had literally happened one time in the history of the NFL ever in a yeah, the other guy some rando I remember I had never heard of him. Maybe I'm not saying he's not famous but I had nerds Eric. I don't know what he I'm a little Johnson.
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C
Can I say something?
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A
Oh, I got that. I have one of those coming up. Don't you worry.
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B
Seven catches, 76 yards and he got a carry.
- [39:51]
A
Yeah, no, he looks amazing. Any other Oppenheimers?
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B
Craig, I think we should touch on the Friday game. Justin Herbert man was I should say.
- [40:02]
C
He'S got some pep in his step.
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B
Craig, want to know the Madison Beer era?
- [40:06]
C
Why do you think that is?
- [40:08]
B
Look, we Josh Allen, Justin Herbert dating hot celebrities. They're both want to know. Maybe there's something to it.
- [40:13]
A
We got to get. We got to get Lamar a girl mate.
- [40:16]
B
Yeah we. We do in the Madison Beer era. And you know what I saw today that Herbert and Madison were on a were on a date and I hope they had a wonderful night because Herbert was cooking and honestly the Chargers were looked like a completely different team. They came out and kicked the Chiefs in the teeth. They came out throwing a ton. Six of the first eight plays were throws Herbert through for 318 yards three times. Johnston Quinn Johnson had two touchdowns. What was the wide receiver one all day until ours usurped him. But Quinn Johnson Wide receiver 2. I imagine he will come up tomorrow on our waivers episode.
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C
Go for it.
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B
Listen to that. Go Frogs.
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C
Kai made me say it but dude.
- [40:55]
B
I gotta say Greg Roman leaning into the past in this game. Maybe this was a specific scheme to beat the Chiefs. But Herbert is healthy which is something he has not been in a While. And Herbert is running, which is something he has not done in a while because he is healthy. He was hurt all last year. He got hurt week one. He had high ankle sprains. He was a mess all last year. Was not running a lot. I think there is a chance that we do see kind of a new Justin Herbert this year. He only ran for 32 touchdowns, but if you there were a couple called back plays, he really ran for like 60. And Justin Herbert's build and speed is Josh Allen. They're the same. He actually ran a faster 40 than Josh Allen. They are. He is an inch taller. They are the same weight. There is a chance that Herbert scrambles more this year. They maybe design a run or two for him a game. And Justin Herbert is like a completely different fantasy asset this year. He was, he was perfect.
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A
The slide in him popping up and just looking out like, okay, this guy's arrived. That really felt like a moment. And also it's worth saying the Chargers have blown that game a hundred times. Like the Chargers have just blown that specific lead so many times. It was important to win that game. To your point though, I bet Greg Roman, I think that's huge. I refused, to the chagrin of some people who may be listening to the show, I refused to pick the Chargers to make the playoffs solely because I just was so frustrated that Greg Roman, the offensive coordinator had never really had a. A real passing like drop back passing offense, which was. I think they stuck to it stubbornly because Lamar Jackson, because Har. Greg Romans worked for both Harbaugh brothers and that's how they got the 2019 incredible raven system. But a lot of the Ravens breakdowns early in Lamar Jackson's career was because the Ravens didn't have a passing offense. And I think that really played the Chargers last year too. And I do think there were real changes in this game. Nate Tice or who I referenced earlier, our friend Nate Tice noticed that this was the highest rate that Herbert had ever passed to wide receivers in his career. I think you noticed. I noticed that in two specific plays where I was surprised late in the game on wait, I wrote him down because I was shocked. The Chargers with two third two and a half minutes left. Chiefs have three timeouts. The Chargers drop back to throw in first down. And I just remember thinking like, yeah.
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C
Yeah, I remember that.
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A
Yeah, the old Greg Roman would have been like, we're running the ball.
- [43:05]
C
Just conservative.
- [43:07]
B
And I'm sure Jim Harbaugh is like, hey, this is the best quarterback I've ever seen in my life. Let him throw the ball.
- [43:13]
A
The trust. And the other time was her third and 14. Kurt Warner's on the call saying you got to run the ball here. You got to run the ball here. And they drop back to throw and what does Herbert see? Chris Jones cuts inside, breaks contained. Because I mean in Chris Jones's head he's like I've ended Super Bowls doing this. I'm going to do whatever I want. Herbert's like, screw that. It's man coverage. I'm running around the back and he gets the. That's the slide play. But the point being that like them giving him Herbert the leash to. To throw in situations they prefer to run and then him immediately delivering I think could pay a dividend all season. So yeah, I think it. You don't want to go too far in week one, but it's totally different Johnston game. I know.
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C
My God. He was.
- [43:52]
B
When is anyone going to admit that he's maybe okay, he did drop a touchdown.
- [43:57]
A
Give me two. So give me, Give me two more weeks.
- [43:59]
C
Some good and bad.
- [44:01]
B
He's just, he's just going to have the. He's like going to be Nick Westbrook AKINE but for 10 straight years. And we're just never going to admit he's good.
- [44:08]
C
He's so good. He's so good at crossing routes like deep overs and drags across field where he runs away from defenders yards after the catch.
- [44:16]
B
He's actually pretty. He's great with the ball to catch the ball. I think this is the best. These are the best weapons Herbert has ever had. It's not like they're incredible. Keenan looked great. The combo is Keenan and Ladd with. With like QJ being like it's a real offense, I guess an overqualified wide receiver. 3. But I, I think although Marion Hampton didn't have a great fantasy day, I think he's going to be good. I don't think you should be worried. I think this team has real. A real shot. And I thought their defense looked good too.
- [44:43]
A
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- [46:53]
A
We're so back. I don't know if a player's ever had a three days of it's so over. Like Christian McCaffrey followed up by I mean obviously, the McCaffrey great calf injury of 20, 25, was it so over? And then today was just. We're so back. Trisha McCaffrey, literally top five running back on the day. 142 yards from scrimmage. Fun fact. Christian McCaffrey at 31 touches today. Like, we were worried he wouldn't play out for the.
- [47:20]
C
Shanahan cannot help himself. McCaffrey absolutely cannot help himself.
- [47:24]
A
31 touches is the fifth most touches in Christian McCaffrey's career.
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C
This practice was a calf injury.
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A
This regular season, Friday, playoffs. Regular season or playoffs, fifth most touches of his career.
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C
We don't know if we'll be alive tomorrow.
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Do you think there's a chance Shanahan doesn't like Christian McCaffrey? And he's just like, I'm gonna give him as many carries as I can until he gets injured. There was a dude. It was third and 18, and they were, like, in their own territory. It was a classic. Like, just sub Christian McCaffrey out, put Brian Robinson and run the ball and punt. No, McCaffrey.
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£ McCaffrey.
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And the Seahawks were, like, gang tackling him. Like, every time.
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I know there was one play where they got his legs and they were pulling somebody up in the air.
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I thought for sure he was just gonna come out of there limping because, I mean, the. Defensively, the Seahawks were pretty impressive in this game. Except for the last, like, minute of the game.
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Except for the end when Mike. Yeah, that was.
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But, I mean, he looked good, though.
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He looked great.
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Yeah.
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Yeah. God, I don't know how long this.
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Is going to last, but yes.
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Any other.
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It's so over. Or so backs.
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Yeah, my. It's so over. Is Sam Darnold. It's over. Fuck. J.J. mcCarthy is going to be great. That's what this game taught me, is that Kevin o' Connell is a mastermind, maestro, guru, and that Sam Darnold. Halloween came early, and he kind of looks like a pumpkin again.
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The Niners. The Niners won 17:13. And then the Seahawks took the lead 13 to 10 toward the end. And then the Niners went down and. And scored a touchdown. And Darnold seemed unprepared to match.
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He got stripped by somebody's butt, and it was. It was a classic Darnold game. He made some throws where I was like, this guy physically, is awesome. His throw to Jackson, Smith, and Jigba towards the end of the game was beautiful, gorgeous. And then he gets stripped by somebody's butt, and you're just like, he's stripped.
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By his own right tackle running into him essentially.
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But you're just like this is Darnold. I thought the Seahawks didn't look good. I thought their offense looks super stale.
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And I was very unimpressed with the play calling in general and just like the style of the offense. I don't know, I just did not feel good about it after that game.
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I, I thought it was very flaccid.
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I will say, I will say this. I think that if the Seahawks offense is going to look impressive this year, like again we talked about Clint Kubiak, the offensive coordinator is supposed to change a lot about the Seahawks offense. If there's a team that's going to be prepared for it, it would be the Niners. Because again when we talk about like.
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Clint Kubiak, the other Kubiak is on the Niners, one of the three Kubias.
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Well it's not just that it's Clint Kubiak. It's like the father and you know, kind of they're like literally invented zone. The other guy who invented it with them is Kyle Shannon's dad. Like they're like the guys dads invented the thing so they understand it. Robert Salah learned all this from Kyle. Shannon's dead too. So I will say if anyone's going to be prepared to stop it might be the ners. However I this the Seahawks. I'm curious you think DK this game to me just reminded me of like why did the Seahawks want to trade G. Smith again? I still don't totally understand this because if you do the math of like what Gino wanted and then what Darnold ended up getting, I'm like they didn't save that much money like five something. DK I'm you know more about this than me but I my framework for this the whole time has been very simple. I think there's a handful of quarterbacks that I trust on like third and long, third and eight, seven plus and I'm like an adult drop back pocket passer that isn't a superhero like Lamar or Josh in the P.O. in the pocket you can just scramble for it. But a pocket passer who can go through progressions and get you a play on third and seven, Gino's one of them. I don't know if Darnold is and I still don't know why you would not want Gino.
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Look, I don't know. I feel like. Yeah, I, I agree. This is what I said all off season. It's so funny because in Seahawks Land. There's like a schism. It's like, you know, like back in the day when there were two Popes. It's like half of the. Half of the Seahawks fan hood is Diocletian. John Schneider is like pro Geno, and like, Gino's the man. Geno's giving us the best chance to win. And then like, half of the fan base is like, he sucks. He turns it over too much, blah, blah, blah. And like, I can see both sides. I, I personally, and I said this all offseason, I think Gino's better than Darnold, but I don't know, man. Like, I'm annoyed with myself for letting myself get kind of excited about the Seahawks offense.
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Oh, you're annoyed with yourself for getting excited about your team? I don't want to hear anything about you being annoyed about being excited.
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I was just incredibly underwhelmed with this game. But, I mean, at the end of the day, they almost won. It was, it was pretty close. There's like a couple of defensive busts that right at the end of the game that, like, really like that catch, like some fucking random ass tight end that I've never heard.
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He literally had never had a Tonjes.
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Tonjes. He'd never had a catch in the.
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B
NFL's career that was like.
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He caught like this incredible touchdown.
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It looked like the catch. It looked like Dwight Clark. It looked like the catch in the Niners end zone.
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Yeah, he like, basically, like, jumped in front of the Seahawks, like, corner and he double kept caught it. It like, fell down into his knees. Kind of should have been between his knees.
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Yeah, it should have.
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Like, it was miraculous play. And it was a miraculous play by Pie too. So I don't know.
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It was just Pie played well towards.
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The end, man, this game, this game was at home in seattle. Pie had two bad picks.
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C
Yeah.
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B
And you only scored 13 points.
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Purdy recovered. Yeah, I, I, I Pie. I was impressed. Yeah, it's.
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I don't know.
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The Darnold experience is that next next week. I very may well have do have him as my. We're so back. That is Darnold.
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A
Well, it's funny though.
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B
Right now I'm like, man, it's over.
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A
But Dicky, you mentioned Darnold is one pope and then Gino is another pope. For Silks fans, you meant you left that Russell Wilson. You're. You don't miss him.
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C
Oh, God, it's so over for Russell Wilson. I take back everything I've said over the last year, plus About Russell Wilson and Aaron Rodgers essentially being picking rush.
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B
Over Rogers this year.
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C
I will say most of it was like me just being contradictory or whatever but now I'm like okay, I was just bad.
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B
He has sucked for three years.
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C
Today he was 17 of 37 for 168 yards. One I I counted, I looked at his pass chart and I saw one completion over the middle of field past five yards he just like can't. His offense doesn't work anymore. He sucks.
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B
It's over today.
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C
Sorry to interrupt you again but please Dave all like did not commit to Russell Wilson for next week. We might see we might see Jackson dart next week.
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A
Russell Wilson today was Russell Wilson's 200th start.
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C
Oh wow.
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A
I don't need 201. Yeah like I I like with respect to Russell Wilson he doesn't need to play again. I've seen, I've seen too much. I got next week didn't have any don't give it Cowboys but I don't care. I like I don't give a shit.
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B
That's not a bad spot throwing dart.
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A
I know that like even months ago I was like oh let dart sit. Let him learn that.
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C
This is what happens.
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B
We told you this. You were like you say that and then you're gonna watch three Russell Wilson games to be like it.
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A
I didn't think it would be this bad. Here's why I here's I didn' dude, okay, let me tell you something there there I'm going tell you about a sequence and then I have to tell you a stat that made me really sad. First of all I was really mad at D because the Giants got within the goal line and they went four and out at the goal. I respected they went front and fourth down but they went four and out. They got a ticky tacky call gave them new life gave them first and goal at the one. They fucking went three and out again at the one. And then to avoid the frankly like crazy virality that would come of going eight now they kicked the field goal to get points because if you that would have been really bad but that they didn't get a touchdown to which the broadcast showed a stat that the Giants went They did not score a touchdown in this game. The Giants have gone three straight season openers that scoring a touchdown. Whoa the la I'm going to say it again. The Giants have not scored a touchdown.
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C
Week one of three strikes deal with the Giants. They are not very good at scoring touchdowns.
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A
DK the last they score in an.
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Alarmingly few amount of touchdowns.
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B
Here's the deal. Here's the deal with the Giants.
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C
In football, the main goal is to score what we call touchdowns in this sport.
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B
There's a painted area at the end of the field.
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C
There's a zone.
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And then at the end of the.
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Zone, it usually has the team's name on it. It's painted your team color. You got to get the ball in there.
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The last time an NFL team failed to score a touchdown in three straight seasons, season openers, was the 1940 Lions.
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C
Oh, God.
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A
Failed to do so at 1940, 1941 and 1942. Are you guys aware of other events that happened in America in the fall of 1941 and 1942 that may have prevented the 1940s Detroit Lions.
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C
World War II.
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A
Okay. Yeah. So anyway, I want to read you some players on the 1940 Lions that. This. This Lions team that failed to score a touchdown three straight weeks. Wizard White, of course.
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B
Oh, of course.
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C
Later went to the Supreme Court.
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B
Right.
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A
Whizzer White. He was drafted by the PIR. The Pittsburgh Pirates were a football team then in 1938. And then he was like, fuck this. I'm not getting paid enough. Went to Rhodes Scholar in England. And then World War II started, so he had to leave. Came back and led the NFL in rushing for the Lions. Then he went back, people back. Came to Supreme Court. No. Anyway, the other guys in this team. Cotton Price.
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C
Cotton.
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A
Howie Price.
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C
Bold move, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him.
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A
Cotton Price and Howie Weiss.
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B
Okay.
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A
Stillman Rouse.
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B
Nice. Stillman. Name or real name?
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C
Stillman, actually. Very fast.
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B
What's his last name?
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A
Rouse. R O, U S E is also pronounced with two Ls, so it's still Man Rouse. It's still Man Rouse.
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B
Stillman. Ivan Rouse. Yep, that's his name.
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A
Butch Morris. Butch Morse. I don't know. Harry Hop.
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B
Harry Hop. I think I remember him.
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A
My favorite one of all. I'm cheating. This is the 1941 lines. I don't care. Steve Belichick related.
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C
What?
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A
Yes.
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C
Was it his dad?
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B
Oh, wow.
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A
Steve Belichick's father was on the last team.
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C
No shit.
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A
Yeah.
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C
Here he is.
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A
Anyway. Yeah, I hate the Giants. I honestly just gave me dart. I have no hope because, you know, I have no hope. Like, this team. Like, I actually thought Russ would be better than this. Like being able to score a touchdown from the one with three tries, like.
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B
Over his last six games.
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A
No. Yeah. Honestly, they need to bench him anyway.
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C
They might. They might do it.
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B
I thought that was really funny that the reporter kept going back and he's.
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C
Like, okay, you're not committing to this, to be clear. So I have it on the record. You are. The way that you worded that makes it sound ambiguous about whether you're going to start Russell.
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B
It's a tough spot to be in because like, what are you supposed to say? But yeah, it's funny.
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A
It's. The Giants can't have another Owen 2 start where they're like 91% of teams don't make it a playoffs that are owing to. Yeah. Anyway, any other worst. So backs, I just want to shout.
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C
Out Travis ETN a little bit here because from a fantasy point of view, this is pretty important. Etn, by far the lead guy for the Jags in this game.
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I know.
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C
RIP Tank Bigsby, Tank Bigby, Tank Bigsby a afterthought, five rushes for 12 yards. Basically he and Tutin rooting for Tutin split carries on early downs and then La Quint Allen was on. On third downs. So Bigsby had almost no role in this game. ETN, 16 carries, 143 yards. A lot of that was one really long run, like 70 something yards or something. But I thought ETN looked pretty good, honestly, in this game and so it looks like right now he is the back to have in Jacksonville. The Jacksonville offense, I don't know. I thought it was decent. I thought they looked pretty good. They dominated that game for sure. Um, so Travis Etien shouts to him, he's so back. He's the leader of that.
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He's looking right now like a real. Like we knew. We. We thought we knew that somebody in the Jacksonville backfield was going to be the guy and if Liam Cohen's offense worked, that would be a valuable pick. And we were leaning Bigsby, but it looks like it's going to be atn.
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It's week one, you never know. But we were close to nailing the season. If week one holds water, which was. We were joking. We should make the draft picks like Icks and the running back. Icks were like ETN and Breeze. And what if you just draft these really talented guys that usually go higher? So we'll see. But yeah. So now we get to do. Wow, it's been a while since we've done this, but we get to play America's favorite game. Fart or Shart. Craig, will you just give people. Will you explain people a little bit? Like what. You know, what exactly. Fart or Shard is here for the. For the new listeners who are A little freaked out.
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Was this merely a one time mistake or a permanent issue? You know, do you need to go home from dinner or can you just run to the bathroom and clean things up? And where I'd like to start is DK Fart or Shart. Every single good wide receiver was bad today. Jamar Chase, 3 points, T. Higgins, 4 points, Nico Collins, 4 points, Amon Ross, St. Brown 6. Tyreek Hill, 6. Brian Thomas scored a touchdown and only had 8 points, which is very difficult to do. AJ Brown had 1 point, Jalen Waddle, 5 points, and Calvin Ridley, 4 points.
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Brutal. Absolutely brutal. I think it was. I obviously, I think it's a. A fart. It's not, it's not something I'm really.
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B
Worried about if it's a really stinky fart. But however, look at this list. In this, in this. I sent you this list. If you had to assign one shart to this list of, I think eight guys that I just read you five, nine guys. Who has the shart?
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C
Probably Waddle.
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B
Yeah. Fuck yeah.
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C
Waddle's the one I'd be the most worried about.
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Yeah.
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C
And then Amon Ra. Just based on the way the Lions offense played is worrisome, but I still think that they'll get it together a little bit more than this.
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B
You agree with that Heifetz that Waddle is the Shark?
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A
Yeah. Waddle and Tyreek, I'm just like. I mean, Tyreek didn't get voted a captain and if the vibes are bad. Yeah, both of them brutal.
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B
It's just awful. Nico Collins did not.
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C
Collins. What are you doing?
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B
Chase and Higgins and nothing. It's just, just awful. The whole AJ Brown thing was just brutal.
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C
He had like one target late in the game.
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B
I. I'm pretty sure he's hurt, which is even worse.
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A
Yeah, we'll see. No, I agree. You obviously play all these guys, but. Yeah, no, the Dolphins Waddle is the.
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B
Only one where I'm like, next week. I don't know if you play him again.
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Jayla Waddle. Three games with 20 points in two years. Like, I just, you know, just worth reminding. Okay. I want to do a thing we did last year that I think is funny, called intrusive thoughts. These don't have to be in depth, but we're just. Honestly, these are just things that you occurred to you during eight hours. Again, thoughts are just things you think you don't have to, you know, sign meeting. But I just trying to be more honest about things. And I want, I want to start off here with. I Think a good example of an intrusive thought, which is when this whole sequence that I'm going to describe happened in one second during a play. Literally it was during a play, before the play even ended. Russell Wilson was scrambling. It was like third down and it was like the first or second drive, and Russell Wilson scrambling to the end zone. And honest to God, my thoughts were, russ, don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. Don't get hurt. And then I was like, I guess it doesn't matter if you get hurt.
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C
You don't root for it.
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I'm not rooting for it. I just kind of realized in the middle of the play it doesn't really affect my life if Russ gets hurt. Yeah, I'm not saying that's a good thought, but I did think it. So, yeah, with that said.
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One injury away from having a good team.
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A
Yes, dumb she write injury. I did get any intrusive thoughts today.
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C
My intrusive thought I already kind of said, it's just that Ben Johnson was the reason for the lion success. I'm just a little bit worried about how. Just pitiful they were in this game. I. I'm get. I think in my heart that they will get better. But I had that thought put in your head.
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You're like, yeah, another intrusive thought that I had. Dk, I am sorry to say this to you, but watching the Seattle 49ers game, I'm. I just over and over again was like, zach Charbonnet is better running back than Ken Walker.
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C
Look, this is intrusive thoughts. And mine was not exactly the same, but it was like, oh, fuck, what if he is better than Kenneth Walker?
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A
He just seems better.
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C
Too much of my personality is like, entwined with Kenneth Walker being good. He certainly ran better in this game. And if I'm being. If I'm trying to rationalize why that happened, I'm like, maybe it's because Kenneth Walker missed huge chunks of training camp. Maybe it was just random, maybe, whatever. But yeah, I mean, he was. He was the better running back in this game by far.
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A
So random one little bit.
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C
Not great for me personally.
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A
You literally got more carries, more yards, more touchdowns, that it just looks better.
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C
Well, he had fewer opportunities. For what it's worth, Shar, Kenneth Walker had more targets and carries than Charbonnet. And it was like, it looked like Charbonnet was the lead back in this game, but they were just like rotating drives. And the drives that Charbonnet was in, they did well. And then the ones that Walker wasn't in. They did not. So, you know, deal with that what you will.
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A
Could be random.
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B
Whatever.
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A
See how it goes.
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B
Some of it was just random.
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C
Well, I mean, look, if you go back and watch the game, like Kenneth Walker's getting tackled in the backfield.
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A
No, no category for things we realize.
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B
Random.
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A
Whatever, Whatever. I'm.
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C
Hey, I'm rationalizing. I admitted it, all right?
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A
I know, but don't give me. It's like Carlos. It's like with Carlos or. I'm so sorry.
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B
Carlos is Now. You have two good running backs. Dk. This is a good thing.
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C
I actually truthfully was like, it's cool. That Charbonnet is awesome. He looks really good.
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A
He's on your team. You keep acting like he's not on your team. You have two. Yeah, that's great.
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C
I know. I just like. I just like Kenneth Walker a lot.
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A
But it's like when Saquon was hurt and I. I like he would have a run and look good. For a second I was like, oh. And then I was like, oh, that's Wayne Gallman.
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B
Wayne.
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C
I very vividly remember that. Exactly.
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A
Play like, that's how fans always know first when players injured because they start having moments like that and then they keep it to themselves.
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B
Wayne Gman sounds like he was on the 1942 Lions.
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A
Yeah, he. Well, you know, yeah, he was. And then he went to fight the Nazis. Hoppy Gman, Craig, any intrusive thoughts today?
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B
My intrusive thought, and again, this is just an intrusive thought, is that Ashley Jente's like, just Leonard Fournette. I'm a little worried that he's just. They're going to give him like 300 carries. He's going to like, muscle his way to 1200 yards and eight touchdowns and he'll be fine.
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C
And 3.8 yards.
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B
He's going to average three. Today he had 19 carries for 38 yards and. But he had a touchdown. And it was hard to tell today that he is a freak talent that we know him to be. My buddy Chris has been saying this to me for the last couple of weeks. And he's not just saying this because we went to San Diego State and we love Rashad Penny or anything like that. He's more making a joke about the Mountain West. He's like, I still don't really understand what the difference is between Rashad Penny and Ashton Genti. He's like, rashad Penny ran for like 2500 yards in college. He ran for more yards per carry than Ashton Genti. Did. And he was like. But we just decided Ashton Genty is the greatest running back of all time. Why? Why, Craig?
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C
We have incredibly short memories. That's why.
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B
No, I mean, it's like, obviously, it's like watching Ashton Genti. He's incredible. You know, the yards after he was. He is a unique talent. However, it does cross my mind, the Mountain west thing, when I see him.
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A
Play in the NFL, the Mountain west and also the Raiders can't block the Raiders yards for carry. Last year the Raiders were unblocking. But, like, that kind of goes hand in hand of.
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C
I thought Genty flashed a few times on this. Like his. His escapability, the juice that he has to make guys miss. Also, just for the record, intrusive thought. We gotta say this. Like, Penny would have been awesome if he could have just not gotten hurt every year of his career. Like, when he was healthy, he was really good.
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A
That is actually. That's a good note. Penny's became a punchline. But, like, he actually had a lot of issues. Like.
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C
But before, like, every year he was in the league.
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B
I'm just a little nervous. I'm just.
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A
I'm nervous too.
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B
Like, 10% of me is like Trent Richardson, but I. I'm not. I'm not even close to that. I'm at 10%.
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A
This is the dreadlocks.
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C
These are intrusive thoughts.
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A
That's the same thing as the Jeremy Shock. It comes to Tyler Warren. It's just so, you know, hair.
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C
My intrusive thought was, oh, God, is Aaron Rodgers gonna win the mvp?
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A
Yeah.
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C
The only time he's good is when people start thinking he's that player of the year.
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A
Honestly, dk, now I'm like, mad. You're right. The problem with Rogers is everyone believed in the Jets.
- [68:13]
C
The packers did a quarterback in the first round and then two MVPs.
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B
That's what I'm saying. Everybody, Everybody. It went way too far. Slander.
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A
You know what I'm just realizing now? I got off. I forgot my best. I got off. Damn it.
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B
And then I. And then I realized I became inoculated to the slander.
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A
Okay, immunized hyphens.
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C
What were you trying to say?
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A
Who cares? It doesn't matter. It's stupid.
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C
Stupid.
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A
No, I just think the problem is Roger stopped doing drugs.
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B
I will say there was a moment today there was an angle where I saw his giant forearm tattoo and I was like, that was Nick. The tattoo is a Nick.
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C
Did he explain it yet?
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A
Does it need to, though? Okay. Play of the day. Yeah.
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C
There were a lot of good ones.
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There were a lot of good ones. The Isaac Tislaw, the Lions receiver. That one hand catch that turned out his. Oh, his butt at the ground and it was his towel and so like he just bare. I I've never quite seen it. It wasn't even a toe tap. It was a straight up heel tap. I that was an incredible thing in the corner of the end. It didn't matter at all.
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Yoink. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Romo also called it out even though you could like see his heel. And Romo's like, that's not a catch.
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Tough day for Tony Romo. Tough day.
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He kept calling, he kept calling Jordan Love the wrong name. I can't remember what he was saying. Like Jeremy Love or something like that.
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It's, it's, it's. Let's not get into it. I'm gonna say something I regret. DeAndre Hopkins, incredible touchdown catch in the Ravens game. I do wanna also throw out just Mahomes is delete all deleted history. Cause these teams lost for the Lions, Ravens and Chiefs. But the chief Mahomes had another like horizontal throw. Like he just was. He flipped the ball to juju. He looked like a fucking superhero. He was in the middle of the air. He was like a foot off the ground and he just flipped the ball to juju.
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Mahomes is truly in danger of now, I think actually has the worst receiver core he's ever had right now.
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It's where they got hurt like on the first play.
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It's a nightmare in Kansas City catching passes.
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Any other best play of the day.
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I think we would be remiss to go this whole podcast without mentioning a mecca. Buca scoring the game winning touchdown. His second touchdown of the day. I mean look he. Tyler, Tyler Warren I think is up there under guys where it's just like, you know he's going to be good in the NFL and I think Abuka is exactly the same. Like this guy's just going to be really good.
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My play that stood out to me was the Bijan Robinson's 50 yard touchdown. It was the first touchdown of the day on Sunday, I believe. And it was just that dump off on like the fourth play of the game and he looked like he was fast forwarded and and truly looked like he's even gone up a level athletically. And I was shocked that he outran those forward bucks.
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The only thing missing from his profile was like he actually Bijan weirdly hadn't had like long touchdowns and it was nice to see him immediately get 100 receiving yards today. That. That's incredible. But, yeah, the Abuka. I think I kind of do think the best play was Tesla. Although it's weird. I. I don't like. I don't know. It's kind of. The game is kind of over.
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Yeah.
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Do you want to pick one or two?
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Also, Matthew Stafford had a sidearm. No look past early. I don't know when it was in the game, but just vintage Stafford.
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Well. And I used to think.
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And Puka just peeling himself off the turf every. Like, he went to the. I think he went to the blue tent.
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Like, how many. He looked like the. The. The James Bond guy whose eye bleeds when he's, like, playing poker. Like, Puka just looked. How many times did he go back and forth to the locker room?
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Puka just. Man, maybe just like, don't try and run after catch.
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Yeah.
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Like, I will say, I used to.
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Think he needs to. He needs to, like, watch more.
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Tyler Locke, the guy that taught Tua to, like, how to fall right, needs to go to that guy.
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Do you. Do you think Stafford does the no look passes on purpose, or do you think Stafford actually just can't turn his neck?
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Sometimes it's like, drive. Like, when old and you're driving, you, like, can't look in your blind spot.
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It's like old guy golf swings. They, like, don't have a. They, like, don't have a hip. They have to figure out how to swing without it.
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It's a good question.
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The staffer just doesn't correct anyone. We're like, wow, you did that on purpose to hold the safety. And he's like, yeah, yeah, totally. Totally.
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I'm changing lanes without looking. Matt.
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I'm not.
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I'm just gonna go for it.
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Worst play of the day. I have. I have one, but I don't know. Craig, do you have your worst play the day.
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This. This doesn't make the stat sheet because it was called back, but Bryce Young had one of the worst picks you'll ever see. It was a pick six, and he was, like, trying to evade a sack and literally, like, will Levis it up to the defender. And it was an immediate pick. Sick. But they called him back.
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There's. The Panthers are so lucky. That game got lightning delayed and no one watched it. Horrific.
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It's bad.
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I will say worst play of the day. I actually want to give it a cam ward for the Titans, who both played well. And also the Titans were horrific.
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And I had two points in fantasy, which is kind of tough.
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Dead Last.
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Dead last. Do you see the. Did you see the long drive he had in the third quarter? Yeah. Pretty impressive.
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With that said, I can't think of a worse way to start your career than at Denver.
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I know. Yeah. So I know. I will say Cameron, I don't think he came. Ward looked overwhelmed. He looked like he belonged. He had arm strength. He was hitting receivers in their hands. Like, traits wise. I'm like, okay, this works. And. But then the actual, like, games, I mean, so Austin Gale here at the Ringer sent me this. That The Titans average 6.2 yards per play. Well, that's pretty good. It's like. No, no, no. 6.2 yards per drive.
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Yeah, they. They basically would just get punts and run them back into field goal range and then kick field goals.
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Well, it's literally like it was the lowest yards per drive the Titans have had in the 21st century. And it was actually worse than that because they just kept getting the ball in Broncos field position. But anyway, worst play of the day to me was just the Broncos. Somehow, despite this, the Titans were only down one point. And then Marvin Mims. The Broncos fumbles a punt return. So the Titans get the ball in the red zone, like, at the 22 yard line. The Titans have the ball. You could literally kneel it down three times, kick a field goal, and the Titans will be winning the game in the fourth quarter. Cam Ward takes two sacks for 27 combined yards. Literally gets handed the ball in the red zone. And I'm not shitting you, he runs backwards like he gets a shotgun snap, sees pressure, and runs 10 yards backwards. And I was like, okay, this is a little learning experience for everyone.
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I think that's one of the biggest learning curves going from college to pro is that you cannot evade sacks like you think you can. Like Kim. Word is not that fast. He's a big dude. He kind of lumbers a bit. And. And when he's at Miami, he is like, oh, I can just like, turn around, roll out, make a throw. Every time he tried to do that, he got caught.
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Today, the defensive linemen, whether it's defensive tackles or defensive ends, are literally in the NFL. Every one of them is the best player you ever faced.
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And they all run faster 40 times than Cam Ward.
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Yeah, they're like insane athletes.
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A
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Applecard.Com New Category we're introducing this year, Stadium Pulse of the Week. DK texted me he had no idea what this means. Stadium Pulse.
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B
What do you think it means? Stadium Pulse.
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I don't know. Is it like something to do with like the. I don't know. Just tell me. Not sure.
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A
So the college football video game has an incredible feature which is if you're going to try to kick a field goal, like the pull like the, the pressure of the moment makes the kick harder. So if it's an extra point and you're up 50 points, it's like doesn't there. And if you want to hit a 50 yard yarder to beat Alabama, it's.
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C
Like the time expire factor.
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B
Yes.
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It's pucker factor and it's literally impossible.
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B
Or it like rattles your remote.
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Yeah, it like, it literally like your.
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C
Actual control is vibrating control when you're trying to park.
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Yeah.
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And it's going a thousand miles an hour. And so it's become this like. Honestly, one of the best memes on the Internet is Craig, are there. What were the examples that made you think of this?
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Oh, I don't know. What was an example? It would be like if you were at a bar and a pretty girl came up to you and like asked you a question and it's like the stadium post and nail the response or something like that.
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It's like stadium false is incredible.
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I mean they don't have to be.
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Kickers, but I actually do think kickers deserve it this week because this poor Browns kicker Who doesn't have enough vowels in his name? Andre Smith. Zmyt.
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It's Smith.
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I don't know. I'm. C, M, Y, T. I'm guess. I'm guessing here, man.
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Let me. I'm gonna look that up while you guys.
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Yeah.
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Whatever. He missed four points of kicks in a game. The Browns lost by one, so that kind of sucks. He missed a 20, 27, 36.
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Yeah, I think it's Schmidt.
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Oh, Schmidt.
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Schmidt.
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I think it's Schmidt.
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That's probably how it was spelled in the old country, but yeah. 36 year old field going, extra point. That's tough. Poor Andre Schmidt.
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This isn't really a stadium pulse. I just had nowhere else to put it. But man, did you guys see that video of Miles Garrett drilling Joe Burrow?
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It's gotta be so scary to play quarterback, dude.
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Remember the Geno Smith, Aaron Donald, when he goes like, oh my God.
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A
It is like, oh my God.
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Like the most genuine relatable.
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I kind of like. God, I think there's like. This is like workplace malpractice what the Bengals are doing to Joe Burrow. I don't think he should be on the team. What he has to go through day in and day out is just to make it to 500 is unfair.
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It is. It is almost underrated how much we were just saying like, these are the most athletic people in the world. Like, like the defensive ends, defensive tackles, like the biggest, fastest people in the world and they're trying to crush you. It's all they want to do. And my Instagram algorithm recently has kind of started. I don't know why, but I'm getting more like great white shark jump scares from divers, which I don't really want, but I guess I watch because they keep feeding it to me. And that really is. What's happening to these guys is he's kind of just. Joe boy is just going along. He's like, holy fuck. Miles Garrett, dude.
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Except he doesn't. But. Except he just sits in there and took it. I mean, Miles Garrett comes rounding the corner like Mr. Larson and Happy Gilmore. And Burrow just sticks in there, makes the throw and gets fucking annihilated. And they beat. They barely beat the Browns by one. I'm like, dude, Burrow is.
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It's a $90 million a year collision right there. It's like a large Hatcher collider. Oh, my God.
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C
There was an old. There was a video that used to circulate on Twitter and it was like from the 80s. I can't. I Apologize. I can't remember the players. It was basically like, like, defensive lineman going through the bag drills where they were, like, you know, weaving through and then hitting those bags and, like, you know, the ones that, like, kind of you can knock them over, but then they come back, right back up or whatever. And it was, like, two straight practice reps, and it was a Hall of Fame pass rusher, and then, like, a practice squad guy and, like, the hall of Famer was just annihilating these practice dummies. And the tall in the practice squad guys just, like, kind of jogging through and, like, you know, barely touching him. I'm like, that's what playing Miles Garrett must feel like. It's so. It's incredible how much more athletic he is than almost anyone in the league.
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He was running at full speed with. With the goal, with the intent to kill Joe Burrow.
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C
I just.
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B
I know.
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C
I just want to make it clear, like, how different Miles Garrett is than most players ever having to face that. It's like, the Michael Parsons thing is that I don't want to face that.
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Is that worth $45 million a year? I don't know. Taking that hit.
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I don't know. It's fine. How much would you pay? Oh, my God.
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Aaron Donald. Can you imagine?
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I mean, I would die if he hit me, so I would. I would not take that money because I'd be dead if he hit.
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One of my favorite things I ever saw. One of my favorite things I've ever seen in NFL practice was the refs at training camp watching Aaron Donald because they couldn't believe it. And then, like, he beat a practice squad player so bad, they were laughing, and, like, refs shouldn't laugh, so they're all, like, turning around trying desperately to not be seen laughing. Okay, next one here. The Arthur Smith Slash Sean Hockey award for coach and or ref that pissed you off.
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C
There was some weird calls in this one. I will say this is just random, but there was a point in the late in the Jets Steelers game where the jets were date. They're deep down near the end zone, and the referee made a call, and he was like, like, personal foul offense.
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This was bad.
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And the crowd was, like, all pissed. And then he goes, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Personal foul defense.
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He let it sit for, like, 10 seconds.
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A
Yeah.
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So I had already, like, fired up a few texts. Nice. They're moving back.
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C
He's like, no, no. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Correction.
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Yeah.
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Personal foul defense.
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Even the announcers are like, that was like a WWE turn.
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Yeah, it was that was good.
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Also. Wait, that was a. That foul was on Jalen Ramsey. And I actually want to say the play of the day was Jalen Ramsey making my job on Garrett Wilson.
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C
That's Garrett Wilson. They were John earlier.
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That was game too.
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That was pretty.
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Yeah, I agree, Dicky. That was hilarious. The only. This. I guess this wasn't terrible call, but I just didn't. The Michael Penix dive for the end zone. We didn't talk about this game a ton, but like, I. The Bucks won. Baker had a great comeback. But the Michael Pennix dive for the end zone and then like, it. It was Antoine Winfield, the safety of the Bucks recovered it, but he was out of bounds. But then it's like, is that that weird rule? The balls fumbled out of bounds and they're like, no, because Michael Penck if you for a ball and you're not your hand or foot hits the ground, then like, you are giving yourself up. And I'm like, wait, let me get this straight. If you dive for the goal line and you are untouched and you bounce in, that doesn't count because you've quote unquote, given yourself up. I didn't know that rule. I kind of just assumed if you're like, I know the rule of you give yourself up. Like, if you kind of like do the Tyler Lock and just dive, you're like, I don't want to get hit.
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Or like, is he giving himself up? He's diving for.
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That's what I'm saying. I thought giving yourself up was avoiding being hit or an injured player who drops a ball. Yeah, like diving. How is diving for the end zone giving yourself up? But apparently any dive is giving yourself up, which I didn't know and I.
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Don'T really know why. When you. When a running back dives for the end zone and fumbles into the end zone without crossing the line because they.
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Haven'T hit the ground with other parts of their body, which I frankly didn't know that.
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Too many rules.
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It's one of those things. I feel like the whole fumble into the end zone thing is like. It's kind of like a glitch in the. In the game where I feel like they still are like, ah, we just. You're not supposed to do that. We don't have an answer for that, dude.
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It's. It's. I. Yeah, I agree, it's dumb. But anyway, that was weird. However, I actually have decided I have a. One other random thing I want to yell about, which is just a couple quarterback sneaks. Failed today. I understand. So there's two parts to the tush push, right? There's the pushing of Jalen hurts. And then there's also like the way the Eagles offensive line moves. Right. You know, they kind of like do it. Why don't. How are like every time a quarterback sneak fails and they don't and the running backs behind them not pushing, I'm like, what the fuck are you doing? Am I crazy?
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You're saying why isn't every QB sneak a tush push?
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Why is like if. No, but the tush push is two elements. It's hurts being pushed and it's the way the offensive line goes. I get the way the offensive line, technique wise, it's hard to do. Why aren't they pushing the quarterbacks?
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Was it the Rams who had one? I saw Stafford try to.
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That one. I get you don't want to shove on Matt Stafford's back. You don't know what epidurals you're gonna fuck with. He's got holes in his face, spine.
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Yeah.
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But the other ones, I'm like, Jordan Love had to like turn ass forward and like just start put. I'm like, where the is Josh Jacobs? Like bench press his ass over the line. What the.
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Is it. Because then Josh Jacobs would have to be right behind Jordan Love at the snap and then it would give it away that it's a sneak.
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I don't know. Run up and hit him. I'm just. I don't know. I guess it's just I. I'm not going to unsee this now. And like, I'm curious if you guys experience this too going forward when there's quarterback sneaks and they. There's just the running backs just staring and I'm like, it's 20, 25. You can push the quarterback. Do it.
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I think it's just mostly tradition.
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Yeah. And I'm like, just fucking push anyway. I. That's my anger is like anytime a quarterback stick fails and you're not pushing the quarterback, I'm just going to lose my mind. Yeah. Dk. Any other things did you get over the Seahawks not going for a fourth and inches?
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What did.
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What was your guys take on that one? Because so basically the Seahawks, it was tied 10 to 10. There was, I don't know, I think a little less than two minutes to go. And the Seahawks, instead of going for it on 4th and 1 deep in their own or sorry, deep in the 49ers side, they just kicked a field goal to go ahead 13 to 10, gave the ball back to the 49ers. 49ers promptly drove down the field and scored a touchdown. And I mean, I guess the Seahawks did have a chance to win it again later, but I just, for a coach like McDaniel who goes for it a lot on, sorry, McDonald, he goes for it a lot on fourth down. He is analytically pretty forward thinking, I think, and all that, for him to not go for it there, it was just kind of a surprise. And it irked me in the moment. Tomorrow I might feel differently, but like, right now I'm just like, man, you had them on the ropes kind of. If you go for that, you, if you go for it there and get it, you win.
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Probably in Niners territory, I think you.
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Got to go for 4th and 1.
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B
How did you guys feel about the Ravens punting on, what was it? 4th and 2, 4th and 3. At the end of the game there, did you agree with that?
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C
I'm trying to remember the, it was.
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B
The final, it was the final Ravens possession of the game, and it was like 4th and 2 or 4th and 3 and they opted to punt. They were in their own territory. They opted to punt. If they, if they didn't convert, the Bills would have immediately been in field goal range.
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That's the problem. But overall, I see what you're saying where the Ravens, frankly, it's one of those things where I think it's pucker factor. I think it's like, holy shit. Like I, the Ravens have done. I mean, that's a little aggressive. Cause you're so close, you're kind of conceding the game, honestly, if you miss that. But fourth and three, oh, my God.
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The argument is they don't get it. And then it's the Bills ball. The Ravens still had three timeouts, so they, in theory, could have stopped the Bills. The Bills kick a field goal, and there was still plenty time for the Ravens to get the ball.
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Mike, my real answer, thinking about it, is the math probably did suggest going for, with all that going for it. But at that point, I, I, I don't know, man. You're kind of panicking.
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B
It's tough in your own territory when if you give up the ball, they're already in field goal territory.
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It's like, yeah, it's, it's, it's, it's, that's hard to ask a coach to do.
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B
I have one quick Arthur Smith award for the coach that pissed me off, Mike McDaniel. For the, on the, for the Dolphins, there was just a Tyree Kill catch that was 30 yards. They called it out of bounds. They showed one replay announcers, that's a catch.
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Y.
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Nothing. And I'm like, if Mike McDaniel and his staff doesn't even give a then why should the players?
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I don't think that's McDaniels's direct fault.
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No, it's like his. Whoever's up in the booth not noticing or.
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But I'm like, but that's his job is to make those, make sure that those people are communicating with him.
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B
I thought it was embarrassing.
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A
I agree. I, that was unfortunate. I, I literally. What are you like, what's what?
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B
Everybody but you guys know that's a catch. Everybody at home, the announcers, probably the people in the stadium watching the Jumbotron. How are the coaches the only people who can't see that.
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It's really brutal. Yeah, that's a good call. Anyway, the Lucille Bluth. I don't understand the stat line. I won't respond to it award. I mean, yeah. Number one receiver until Sunday football is Quentin Johnson for the Chargers. It's pretty funny.
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C
Go for it.
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And then it was Keaton Allen Lad Bukonki wasn't even there.
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C
You DK Jameer Gibbs had 31 yards on 10 catches, which is a new NFL record.
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B
That's some Camara shit.
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C
Fewest yards on double digit catches. He broke the record by Alvin camaro, who had 33 yards on 13 catches and a loss to the Bucks in 2023. Yeah, if I just in my mind when I picture the first thing that comes to my mind when I picture the Lions offense today was a swing pass to Gibbs and then he would run directly out of bounds, like parallel to the line of scrimmage. And that was like the only thing they could do.
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B
I don't know why, but Jared Goff looked more like a giant giraffe out there today.
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C
He looked like he was demoralizing.
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A
Yeah, I think, I think it's because Ben Johnson's gone probably. Okay. Two tight ends who outscored Kyle Pitts in a lie.
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B
We should say Kyle Pitts.
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C
He's fine.
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B
He, he was, he was solid. Seven catches, 59 yards.
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A
Played well. Actually was physical. I was going to say. So played well. Not health ins. Outscored him. Not many tight ends out scored him.
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No, he was a tight end. 12 I got there was his first catch. He like had some juice. Made a guy miss. I was like, okay, would you make of.
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C
What did you make of Pennix overall today?
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B
Kind of liked him. I continue to think he's good and he'll make a couple bonehead throws, but he's got this. He can fucking rip it to the sideline.
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A
I think he's the new TUA in that.
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C
And not.
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A
He's. What was a few years ago where you're like, all right, I don't know if this is going to work for, like, record wise, but for fantasy. This is going to be unbelievable. Like, he's like the same way the Dolphins. It's not as innovative and cool as what the Dolphins are doing a few years ago. But, Craig, I think you said it at like 2 in the afternoon. You're like, this is the league pass team. Like, the Falcons are just going to be like, like ripping passes all day.
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B
Yeah.
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A
And they're probably gonna lose really close games, 28 to 24 every week.
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B
Yeah.
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But. Yeah. So two Titans who outscore carpets in a lie. Juwan Johnson, Harold Fannin, Jake Tongus.
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C
Jake Tongas.
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B
Tongas didn't outscore pits.
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C
How dare you didn't.
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A
He had a touchdown.
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B
No, I don't think he did.
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A
No, he didn't. No. Yeah, it was close.
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B
I only know this because I actually started Kyle Pitts in a league and I saw. I'm keenly aware of how many points he scored.
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A
Cow Pitts, seven catches, 59 yards. He did get a good. He had a good day. Cowpets. Okay, before we're going to do Burn Book now, but before we do burn Book, I want to remind people, if you're listening, that for Monday waivers, we do trivia. So please email us trivia questions for the Monday waivers episode and then also Wednesday emails. Fantasy courts. So if you have fantasy court questions or whatever's going on. Fantasy court, any issues you're arguing at your group chat, we will litigate, we'll solve. And.
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B
And the trivia questions need. The answer needs to be a number, something that we can guess and determine who gets first, second, and third.
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A
Yeah. So you can't send a trivia question like, who's the best running back? Well, no, it's like, you know, how many Nazis did Wizard White kill? And it's like JK0. He served in the Pacific. I don't know. That's a terrible example. But the point is that has to be the number so we can be wrong in order closest to the pin, basically. So, yeah, email us those things and then burn Book. Always hard in week one. I think the hardest, because I think.
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B
Is the goal with week one that you. You don't want to pick somebody who will Turn it around.
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A
No, you're. You're picking people. Like, you're not picking A.J. brown. You're not picking. You're like, oh, A.J. brown of the Burn Book. Hot. No, you're not. Actually, Matt, you're mad at A.J. brown today. You're not going to be.
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B
I think the Burn Book is permanent. You know what I mean?
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A
Yeah.
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C
That. You're, like, not going to. You're doing this to save you from yourself. I don't want to ever put this guy in my starting lineup again.
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A
So with that said. Yeah, I have someone.
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C
It's someone also.
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A
It's harsh. This is like a little unprofessional.
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B
Okay.
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A
But I fucking have Xavier Worthy of the Burn Book. I know that's a little rude to do that to someone who got hurt, but you got to play the season.
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C
What's with the Chiefs?
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A
He got hurt, literally. Rasheed Rice is suspended. Xavier Worthy is the best situation of his career. He gets hurt in the third play of the game. Travis Kelce hurt him.
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B
Dude.
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C
Xavier Worthy was on his way to having 16 targets. Instead, Hollywood Brown got 16 targets in this game.
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B
You know my. You know my opinion on skinny players. I don't do it. I don't.
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A
When a skinny player gets hurt, you feel stupid. I have to admit. You draft, draft to save. You're Worthy and you're like, who cares? He's so fast. They don't touch him. Travis Kelsey runs into him. Xavier Worthy hurts his shoulder and then like, now he's good. What? He's going to come. He's either out for the season, he gets surgery, or what? He's going to come back with the shoulder brace so he can get hurt again? I'm done. I'm so upset.
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B
Well, I don't know if we can burn him because, I mean, if he's out for the year. Okay.
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C
Yeah.
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A
Just fucking mad. I don't. Firing with rage. What do you want to say?
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C
A different chief.
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A
Third play of the game.
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C
I'm mad at myself for buying into and. Or touting Isaiah Pacheco.
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B
I agree.
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C
DK so much for fucking that.
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B
This is a good one.
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C
The way he runs is like, now the tuxedos seem kind of fucked up.
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B
Yeah, just.
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C
I always didn't like that and. But I was like, he's going to be the lead back in a good offense and he's going to get like the goal line carries and all that. Nope. Five rushes for 25 yards, three targets, two catches, three yards. He only played 48% of the snaps. He only ran 29% of the rushes for this team. Basically what they were doing was Pacheco on first down. And this is like a gross oversimpl. Simplification. But Pacheco on first down, Rashard Smith on second down, and Kareem Hunt on third down. This is a three man backfield and Pacheco is probably the worst of them at least like in terms of getting the most valuable touches.
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A
And then Mahomes ridden the touchdown.
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C
Yeah, he only had 33% of the goal line snaps. He's not getting third down snaps. Where are his points going to come from? I'm very worried because I drafted him in several leagues and the Chiefs and now I don't think I can play him.
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B
If you're losing time to Kareem Hunt, you suck.
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A
Yeah, that's the. When you put it like that. Yeah. Anyway, that's pretty good.
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C
The reason I throw that out there is because like, I gotta, I gotta save myself from myself. I can't put him back in my story.
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A
I don't know if Cream Hunt would be signed by another NFL team, maybe the Texans.
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C
But like, oh, he wasn't. He was signed. He was.
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A
I know. I'm safe. The Chiefs caught him. I think Creams Hunt's out of the league.
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C
Yeah.
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B
I would just like to once again nominate Jaylen Waddle as his tradition to start the year. I'm just like, it's the same bullshit. He like hurt his arm. It looked like he dislocated his shoulder. And then like, of course a minute later, he's back. I'm like, fuck this. I. I'm exhausted. I can't do any of it. I hate myself for having him in one of my leagues. I don't know why I did it. He was $5 and I. And I bit and I shouldn't have.
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C
Yeah.
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B
But I, I also hate Isaiah Waddle.
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A
Because the way Craig reacted with this.
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C
Craig's is more genuine.
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A
That's what the purpose is. That. Yeah.
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B
At least if you have Isaiah Pacheco, you're like, I have a guy with Patrick Mahomes. I'm on the Chiefs. Maybe something good. I'm like, the Dolphins are a fake team.
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C
Yeah, I think I, I think I agree with that.
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A
All right. Jalen Waddle, you're burned.
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C
Cool.
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B
It's the Jalen Waddle burn book. It is.
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A
I'm. Soon there's going to be two receivers.
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C
Who, who was the original? Like Kyle Pitts. Yeah.
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B
The legend. He's. He's back though.
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C
Goat.
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A
He's back. He's great now. Yeah. Jalen Waddle, you're burned.
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B
All right.
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A
Thank you ever for listening. Follow us on Instagram, Ringer Fantasy Football Instagram and Tick Tock. And yeah, subscribe to our YouTube channel if you haven't. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, everyone. Thank you for listening. Thank you for emailing us trivia that comes in the form of numbers to ringer fantasy football gmail.com waivers. We're going to go through a bunch of waiver picks on Monday. After Monday football, we're going to talk about Monday football too. And then Power Wednesday and previews on Fridays again.
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B
How's this look?
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A
You look so, so much worse. You look so stupid sometimes.
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B
These hats are crazy.
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A
Why are you blaming the hat?
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B
Well, you know. No, I agree with that 100 really giant flat bill.
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C
Like, who is who Truly come in all shapes, sizes.
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B
I look like a six year old. Look at me. But the design is really cool. It's just a big hat on my head. I'm gonna wear it completely win, I'll tell you that. I'm gonna wear it every time they win.
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A
Thank you, Lord, Lord.
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C
Thank you, Sublime.
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B
Oh, hell yeah. Way backtrack me in this hat. I look like a guy who likes Sublime.
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C
Do you?
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B
Yeah.
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C
You look like a guy who's like, waiting for your dad to pick you up from, like, practice.
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B
Yeah, I don't practice Santeria.
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C
I ain't got no crystal ball.
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B
Yeah. Do you know who Sublime is? I'm not sure you do.
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A
You ain't got no crystal ball.
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B
Okay.
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A
But I do know the word. God damn it.
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B
Yeah. If I had a million dollars. Yeah. Yeah, that's cool. Sublime was one of my favorite bands when I was in, like, high school.
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C
Yeah, that makes sense. California and whatnot.
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A
Yeah.
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C
No, I really love Spine.
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B
I was wearing hats like this. I was.
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A
That sounds like it is. That's one of those things that's both inspiring and sounds like a dig. I liked it when I was 9. Imagine pouring your heart and soul into it. When I was nine. No, I liked it when I was in high school. Okay. That's true. I'm just thinking about how I love.
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C
I still listen to them, still celebrates their entire catalog.
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B
Oh, I love Sublime. Like, I've. They're on in a bar. I'm having a blast. I actually just heard Santeria recently, I think this weekend, and I. And I loved it. What I got is. Is one of my favorite songs.
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A
I think Sublime's an example of a band where I'm like, I actually know a lot of their music, but I couldn't name any of the songs. Yeah. Like, I never would have been like, oh, yes. Santeria by Sublime. But now I'm like, okay, I think I. Yeah, yeah. I know most of the words. This beginning of the song shouts out.
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B
Long beach, lbc, dk.
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A
What's your favorite Sublime song?
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C
Probably Santeria. Some of the others. What I got. Craig was just singing that doing Time is good.
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B
I love April 29th, 1992. That song's cool.
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A
Yeah. Craig, should you make yours like a high school. Craig, should we all make those little songs we listened to in high school and put that as a Spotify playlist?
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C
Chica me Tipo.
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B
It's just all Sean Kingston.
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A
Lil Wayne. No, I'm not gonna.
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B
Modest Mouse.
- [100:20]
A
Yeah. Wow. Yeah, wow.
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B
Hottest mouse.
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A
What were those YouTube videos, the mashups that. Oh, yeah. The United States of Pop. We talked.
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B
Oh, yeah. DJ Earworm, dude.
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C
Craig, remember Caress me down.
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B
Yeah. Great song.
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A
Is that. Is that.
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B
I'm hornier than Ron Jeremy. Yeah. I didn't know who that was for the longest time. Knowing that song, I was like.
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C
Sings in Spanish. They sing in Spanish a lot, too.
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A
I knew Ron Jeremy from rap lyrics and all these lyrics way before I had any clue the Ron Jeremy was totally. Email us at ring your fantasy football gmail.com if you also, like, found out who Ron Jeremy was, like, years after you'd heard about him in songs. This is worse. Now the hat looks terrible.
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C
No, that looks fine.
- [101:19]
A
No, you gotta fix the strap.
- [101:25]
C
So much room in that hat room. There's just so much room in there.
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A
Goodbye, everyone.
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B
Idiot men like us could have this much fun with a hat. I'm like. I could put it this way. And we're like, all right now.
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A
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D
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