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Week 11 Preview: Darnold-Stafford, Jameis Returns, Angry A.J. Brown, and the Desperate Steelers
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Danny Heifetz
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Danny Kale
Right. Yeah. It's like a preview of the playoffs, preview of the teams that you're supposed to, that we're expecting to be some of the best in the nfc. I don't think it like means a lot in terms of like, who wins is going to win eventually, but it will tell us a lot about these teams.
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Craig Korbeck
I love, I love the, it's, I love when it's mid NFL season and like you, you kind of need language to spice up these random weeks. And I love the phrase like, we're going to learn a lot about these teams this week.
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Danny Heifetz
You know what?
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Craig Korbeck
Let me, we're going to learn a lot about the NFC this week. Mike, back to you.
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Danny Heifetz
Let me, let me redo it. We're going to learn nothing in the winners of these games this week.
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Craig Korbeck
It's all made up. The points don't matter.
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Danny Heifetz
Nothing. Yeah. Have no bearing on what will happen.
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Craig Korbeck
We're just watching a game.
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Danny Heifetz
It's a game. It means nothing. Yeah. That's probably more accurate. We're going to get into all these games in a minute, but first we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime Bank Smarter. This season five, fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money trade banking fees for fee free banking, 1.5% cash back getting paid when you say and a higher APY on your savings. That's the lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank Smarter through Chime Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and the secured Chime Visa credit card provided by the Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA FDIC optional services and products may have fees or charges. Details@chime.com fees info with a qualifying direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured chime Visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn more@chime.com okay, we're going to get into all these games. They're just games. Games rankings are fantasy.
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Craig Korbeck
People running around, colored jerseys on throwing a ball.
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Danny Heifetz
Ridiculous. Grown man matching grown men were trying.
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Danny Kale
To get into the end zone.
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Craig Korbeck
Oh, I got to put on my cleats, honey, to go to work. Give me a break.
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Danny Heifetz
Rankings are fantasy football.3.com Game of the Year DK Seattle Seahorse are at the Los Angeles Rams. This game, while interesting, means nothing. How are you nervous or confident in this game?
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Danny Kale
A little Nervous, actually. Come on. This is the number one versus number two team in dvoa. So this is the team. DVOA Bowl Part one. Yeah. This is two really, really good teams.
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Craig Korbeck
DVOA Bowl Part one. Did you steal that from. Was that the lead there?
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I thought. I thought meaningless was actually way more interesting than the DVOA bowl part.
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Craig Korbeck
You should start calling it.
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Danny Kale
How dare you. Oh, devoa the Devo.
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Danny Heifetz
Or as I love that you're like dvoa. Meanwhile, they're just tied for first in your division.
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Danny Kale
Oh, yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
Win the division. Like, that's also.
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Craig Korbeck
It's the metrics bowl.
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Danny Heifetz
He's going for the devo.
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Danny Kale
You're just gonna start making power rankings by the. By the records of the teams.
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Craig Korbeck
Yeah. If you're the top boss, you're called the devoa constrictor.
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Danny Kale
Okay, Greg, you might be onto something here.
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Danny Heifetz
That was good, actually.
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Danny Kale
I know you're making fun of me.
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Craig Korbeck
We backed ourselves into a good idea.
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Danny Kale
Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
So what's going to happen this year?
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Danny Heifetz
But, Dick, actually, your Seahawks. Are you Seahawks the best team in the NFL?
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Danny Kale
No, I already told you this. I already told you. I think the Rams are better. That's why I already told you.
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Craig Korbeck
It's so funny. I already.
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Danny Kale
How many times do I have to tell you? I think the Rams are a better team right now.
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Craig Korbeck
Really? Awesome. You feel that way?
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Danny Kale
Yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
Do you think that or are you guarding your heart?
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Craig Korbeck
Everybody, they have a better defense than the Rams. How can you say that? The Rams are clearly better.
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Danny Kale
Well, you know, there's a little bit of self preservation probably in there.
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Danny Heifetz
It's because he wants the win win of if the Seahawks lose. He's like, I told you. And if the Seahawks win, he's like, I don't care.
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Danny Kale
Truthfully, I do think the Rams are better. They just have number one. They have Matt Stafford. And I believe in him more than I believe in Sam Darnold fully in high, high leverage, high pressure situations. All right. Sorry. I do. I think Sam Darnold has been awesome this year, but that's number one thing. I think Sean McVeigh is a really proven, exceptional coach, like strategy, all that stuff. I think this is a really interesting game, though, from, like, narrative point of view, because, you know, part of the reason or a big part of the reason Pete Carroll was fired is like, he just can't beat Sean McVay. He can't beat Kyle Shanahan. And now we have, you know, Mike McDonald come in here and see if he can beat Sean McVeigh. In like one of the biggest games that he's had as a Seahawks coach. So I think that's like a really fascinating angle. And these are two teams that are playing very interesting schemes right now in terms of like heavy personnel. They're throwing out of heavy personnel. The rams are playing 13 personnel a ton. So there's like a lot of schematic intrigue here. It's just an awesome game. Two really good teams.
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Danny Heifetz
I think that coaching staffs around the NFL will watch this game and have eyes on this game as much as any game that's been played all year. Because the Rams are cutting edge offense right now. CX are cutting edge offense and defense, honestly, on both sides of the ball. But honestly, I think what's interesting is both these teams are full of shit. And I don't mean that derogatory. They're just like, they're bullshit. But like, that's kind of what they're getting on. What I mean by that is it's the Walter White, like, don't bullshit a bullshitter. Like, that is kind of what's going on. Like, the Rams are putting. And the Rams and Seahawks offenses are Boeing throwing a ton of tight ends on the field to pretend that they'll run and they're trying to pass and it's. They're just full of shit. Like, they're like, they have no. Like these Seahawks can't run. They have no intention of running. They're just trying to throw and they're trying to trick you to put linebackers on to match the tight ends the same way. Elijah Royo, the rookie tight end for the Seahawks, he's not a tight end, he's a receiver. But he's listed as a tight end. This. The Rams tight end. Terence Ferguson, the other rookie, is not a tight end. He's a rookie. They're not on the same thing.
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Danny Kale
Very funny. Like Terrence Ferguson, one of the more athletic tight ends. Elijah Royo, one of the more athletic tight ends. The Seahawks looked at him almost like he could be an ex receiver when they were drafting him. Yeah, it's very funny. And to be clear, what Heifers is talking about, like both teams now, they like to run their plays from heavy formations and heavy personnel. So lots of tight ends on the, on the field, which what that does in a lot of cases, not always, but in a lot of cases is it has. The defense has to react to that. So they bring on heavier personnel to contend with the Seahawks or the Rams heavy personnel. And that gives the Rams and the Seahawks the opportunity to throw the ball. They're going, they've got slot receivers or they've got their, you know, faster tight end receivers against slower linebackers or whatever. So they, they find these schematic mismatches. Greg Olson's been talking about this all week and his sort of take any.
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Danny Heifetz
The announcer, the announcer.
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Danny Kale
He has been going off on Twitter on this and it's very fascinating. Basically, he thinks that teams need to stop playing the Seahawks and the Rams kind of the way that they're playing them. Instead of matching personnel, he thinks that they should match their personnel with down and distance and situation, which I think it's easy to say that it's a little bit harder to do that in practice. And you know, Mike McDonald said in a presser he listened to that, that interview or whatever what Olson was saying and he said agrees with it mostly, but it's so specific to situations that it's kind of like actually hard to do that. And that's why, you know, I don't think there's a skeleton key to stopping what the Seahawks and the Rams are doing. Even though I said it's what if.
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Craig Korbeck
You just shift the safety a little bit closer, Just, just move them over.
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Danny Heifetz
Just move over.
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Danny Kale
Then suddenly JSN just can't catch a pass.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, we're going to get to that with the Eagles, don't you worry.
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Danny Kale
Craig.
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Danny Heifetz
But the, no, but to your point, it is really important what's going on with the 6 and Rams because I mean, Sean MC is the best offensive coordinator in the NFL and Mike McDonald's the best defensive coordinator in the NFL and Clint Kubiak, the Seahawks offensive coordinator is doing as good of a job as anyone on offense for like this year. But like what I feel like dk, we've talked about this in the NFL was like a matchup space league. It was like it used to be like you just trying to scheme your player onto a worse defensive player. They can't really cover them. That was the game within the game. And then around 2018, Sean McVay, Kyle Shannon and Andy Reid kind of changed it to, as Chase Stewart called it, they brought deception back. They made it from a matchups based league to just tricking the defense and confusing defense with motions, with personnel, with play action. They brought the deception as an art form back into the mainstream where everything was around. You're never really going to know like it's, it's not like, oh, we'll line up and do something, like we're just going to confuse you and Sean McVay did that in a bunch of ways. Mike McDonald has been called the Sean McVeigh of defense for a lot of reasons, but also because be. Because it's what Sean McVeigh called the illusion of complexity.
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Danny Kale
Right.
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Danny Heifetz
I would call the illusion of complexity. Another word for that is like they're just fucking. Yeah, they're just. It's like a magician. They're trying to get you to look at your hands and it's like it's in the other hand. You know what I mean? It's a lot of. So what's interesting about this game is because these two teams understand it so intrinsically. The. They're like, I think, a good example. Like, they're not going to fall for it. And that's what's interesting about this. It's like a magician doing a trick for another magician where they know what hands to look at. And I think the point being the Seahawks, Cody Alexander at match quarters has been so amazing writing about this this year and talking about it. The Seahawks, even though they run a ton of personnel, of heavy personnel on offense, cannot run the ball, but they pass. The Seahawks on defense are incredible at stopping the run, even though they play lighter formations on defense than anybody. The Seahawks play more nickel. The Seahawks have more quote, unquote, pass defenders on defense than anyone. And they're as good at stopping the run as anybody. And they've built their defenses to. To the short version is to not fall for the bullshit. So what to what Greg Olson was kind of saying this week is there's a world that the Rams so like. And again, the game within the game's matching personnel offense, throws on another tight end, takes off receiver. The defense generally might take a cornerback off the field, put on a linebacker, try to mix it. There's. And I think that what Greg Olson was kind of alluding to is this matchups era that became this deception era is now in this game. It's kind of like, what if he.
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Craig Korbeck
Just ran the ball? Yeah, well, that's the heavy personnel.
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Danny Heifetz
That's the thing, though. They're bluffing the Seahawks. Like, there's a world where the Rams are going to put three tight ends on the field in this game for a play, and the Seahawks aren't going to do anything about it. The Seahawks are going to stay a nickel and pretend like the Rams have one tight end and they're going to dare the Rams to run the ball. And the Rams are probably going to do that to the Seahawks. It's just calling each other's bluffs. Like when the Seahawks put three tight ends on the field on second and eight, the Rams go like, go ahead, fucking bitch, do it. And we're going to see what happens if you can actually follow through.
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Danny Kale
The interesting thing about this, and I think a lot of it is it's really interesting philosophically to talk about, but both teams can do these things that they're doing because they have the personnel that it works with. You know what I mean? Like, it's like any team can do this, but both the Seahawks and the Rams have the personnel that allows them to do this type of thing. So like on defense specifically, Seahawks have Nick Eminwari and Devin Witherspoon, both of those guys. Devin Witherspoon is like sub 200 cornerback and he plays like a linebacker. He's a fucking maniac. The way he tackles, the ferocity which he gets off of blocks. He is not a normal cornerback. And they can put him in at nickel, they can put him on the outside, he can kind of play wherever and he can act as if he's a safety, you know what I mean? Or, or even closer to a linebacker just the way that he tackles. Obviously he's not a linebacker, but it allows them to say a nickel and same with them and worry like where he has a speed to cover if they do end up passing. But he plays so physically comes downhill, will lay the hat and all that stuff. It just like this specific defense is designed to be able to live in nickel. And so that's why it's so fascinating of a matchup because that way they can. It's just going to be so much fun to see how they match up with what the Rams are doing. And then on the other side of the ball, you know, the Seahawks, it's not that they don't run because they actually have the highest run rate in the NFL. They have the right now the Seahawks have the lowest pass rate in the NFL. They're just, they just have not been very successful running the ball consistently. They still do it because it's a whole part of their.
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Craig Korbeck
Is that even in neutral, neutral game script or is that because they just win every game by 30?
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Danny Kale
Well, it's probably a little bit of both. Yeah. But I think they are dead. What my point is like they're dedicated to running even if it's not necessarily quote unquote successful because it feeds into their. Their play action game.
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Danny Heifetz
The other thing, T.K. you made the point about the tackling. That's huge because it's funny because you strip away all this. It's kind of like we always talk to the Niners were interesting because Kyle Uschick's a fullback who could. Who could catch passes. Deebo was a receiver who could run. George Kittle can block like a tackle. And like the positional versatility. It's funny where it's in defense. The Seahawks secondary can tackle. And again the real reason underneath the reason under the reason of why teams run zone running schemes is because the whole idea was make cornerbacks tackle. They're the worst tacklers on the field. The Seahawks secondary can tackle Nick Iman, worry Witherspoon, Jackson, Joe. Like these guys can tackle. And so you don't have to just get into all the complexities of everything. Mike McDonald does a defense. Just watch the Seahawks cornerbacks tackle Puka Naku or not on Sunday and you're going to see a lot about what's going on is just basically everyone in Seattle can freaking tackle, man. But they can also cover. And all the pass rushers can also cover the can also do run defense. It's everyone's versatile.
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Craig Korbeck
How much, how much do you guys believe in like a team not wanting to show their hand too much in this matchup just in case they meet up again in the playoffs?
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Danny Kale
Oh, I bet that's a huge thing. I can almost guarantee you both coaches are going at this like playing a little bit vanilla.
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Danny Heifetz
I don't know. I don't know.
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Craig Korbeck
Because with this, this is different than playing like if this was Rams Eagles, maybe you can show your hand a little bit or maybe you wouldn't show your hand as much. But this game you kind of need to win because you're actually playing for home field. You're playing for the top seed to win the division.
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Danny Heifetz
That's the thing.
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Craig Korbeck
It's different than playing an NFC team outside of your division.
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Danny Heifetz
You want to win the division. I think it's important not just for these teams to win the division. Obviously like Seattle would want people to come to Seattle, but you also don't want to go on the road to the east coast for a playoff game. Like I don't know because like, you know Greg Maddox, I brought him up a bunch this year. But I feel like it's because Greg Maddox is just having a comeback as a pitcher. But he about this is amazing video of Greg Maddox, the pitcher from the 90s is like maybe like a Mount Rushmore pitcher in baseball history talking about he basically gave up a home run.
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Danny Kale
They were winning by a lot late in the game.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, they were winning like seven, nothing. And he threw him, he threw a specific pitch in a specific moment to, I forget who was a really good batter. And the catcher was like, what the fuck did you do that for? And he was like, because he's going to remember that pitch and he's going to remember in this like two, two count, like in that thing I or three, two, he's going to remember full count and he's going to be like, this is where I put, you're like.
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Craig Korbeck
Luring him into a false sense of.
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Danny Heifetz
Security and he's going to be waiting on that pitch in, in, no, in October, and I'm going to throw him a different one. That's exactly what happened. He struck him out October. But that's baseball and they were winning. I feel like you do need to win this game and figure it out later. I, I kind of don't think either. At least I don't think the Seahawks are going to be like saving their best quote unquote, for later.
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Danny Kale
Well, it's, I'm sure it's gray area. They're not, I think they'll be saving.
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Craig Korbeck
A little bit, but I think because this is a division matchup and these teams have like, they both have the same amount of wins and the NFC is like completely up for grabs. I do think this will mean a little more if you can get this win because that mean that gives you a big leg up and getting like perhaps the one seed.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I don't know. I, I, I, I feel like I don't know what my gut is. You just kind of throw your punches and then you trust yourself later to figure out counter punches. Instead of setting up three steps ahead, you kind of just try to win the fight and, and then you're like, look at the fight in retrospect. And you're like, okay, what do we do differently this time? But I think if you're trying to set up a playoff, they're playing again in the regular season, then they play the playoffs. The idea that you're going to think three games ahead is like, I think you just need to win this game.
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Danny Kale
By the way, Craig, to answer your question, I looked it up. The Seahawks are 30th in pass rate over expectation. So even, you know, in neutral or.
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Craig Korbeck
Whatever, football is weird. It's like you need the illusion of even running the ball just to be able to pass the ball, finding that balance.
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Danny Heifetz
Speaking of which, the Lions are at the Eagles this week, Sunday of football. This is the NFC Championship game. We were robbed of Last year.
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Craig Korbeck
I can't wait for this game. The Eagles are the weirdest team to watch this year.
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Danny Heifetz
They're. It's bizarre.
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Danny Kale
And the Lions are fun as hell, so.
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Craig Korbeck
Totally. And like, no more commentary comes out of a game than Eagles games every single week.
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Danny Heifetz
It's so true, Dink. So, I mean, Dan Campbell's lines have beaten every team in the NFC except the Eagles. But the. The real story here, A.J. brown was playing Madden on a live stream. He was playing Eagles, Lions, clearly, because he needs to fantasize about getting the ball virtually because he'll never get it in real life. And he was. This is my favorite part is he was playing with a streamer. Bonus points. Does anyone know the streamer's name? Did you read it?
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Craig Korbeck
I. I saw the story. I didn't know the streamer he was.
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Danny Heifetz
Playing with was named Janky Rondo.
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Danny Kale
I don't know any streamers.
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Danny Heifetz
Janky Rondo. Just thought that was funny. Anyway, the people.
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Danny Kale
Do they just play video games online?
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Danny Heifetz
I don't know.
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Danny Kale
But, Jake, people watch.
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Craig Korbeck
Yep.
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Danny Heifetz
Yes. It's the whole thing.
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Danny Kale
And what else?
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Craig Korbeck
People just watch three guys talk about football for.
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Danny Heifetz
I was gonna put them on TV.
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Danny Kale
And just listen to people talk.
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Craig Korbeck
So that's weird.
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Danny Heifetz
Janky Rondo asked A.J. brown if everything's going well, and A.J. brown says, I mean, no. Where have you been? And A.J. brown's like, family's good. Everything else, it's a show. If you got me on fantasy, get rid of me, man.
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Craig Korbeck
He also w. He also, like, played in. In the A.J. brown, like, video game version of A.J. brown had, like, eight catches for 170 yards in the game. And he was like, this is the only way I get stats now.
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Danny Heifetz
It's pretty amazing, but I will say so. AJ Brown was asked about this.
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Craig Korbeck
He had a nice quote.
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Danny Heifetz
I thought, do you want to read it?
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Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
He said, it's right here. I'll send it.
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Craig Korbeck
I see it. I see it. Yeah. He got interviewed. Which, man, it feels like AJ Brown is getting interviewed extensively every single day. He does, like, 30 minutes of. Of press. He said, it's not just solely about my situation. I want to win, too. I think if we're really focusing on winning and doing our job, we can't just keep slapping a band aid over the defense, doing their job and getting us out of trouble. At what point are we going to pick up our slack as an offense? That's what I'm getting at. It's not about. I don't care about winning. All I care about is stats. No, it's been week after week. Sometimes we're not doing our job on offense you can't keep. And then he said the same band aid thing, but he's basically like, yeah, look, we're winning games and that's cool and I like winning. But like we're just depending on the defense to kind of get us through and eking out every game. When we're the fucking Eagles and we have all this talent, we should be scoring more points. And it's okay for me to be upset that we are winning games, but our office still doesn't look that great. And that's totally fair.
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Danny Kale
He's not wrong.
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Danny Heifetz
No, he's right. He's right. I mean I think A.J. brown.
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Craig Korbeck
Of course he is.
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Danny Heifetz
I mean one the. The Eagles offense, they're. The last five weeks. They're 31st in third down conversions. They're behind terrible Tennessee dude.
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Craig Korbeck
I think they're. It's either The Steelers are first in three and outs.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah, the Eagles, they became like top five. The Eagles dropped down a little bit. Three announced. But yeah, the last five weeks, yes, they are like second to worst. They have 40, 41 three and out rate 41 of the drives are three and out. And again.
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Danny Kale
Oh my God.
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Danny Heifetz
Almost just a touch over a quarter conversions on third downs. They're converting one out of four third downs basically on the last five weeks. And when they're in third down, it's always third and long. It's always third and long. Like again, two thirds of their third downs are third and long, which is also like the second most in the entire NFL last five weeks.
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Danny Kale
So quarterbacks are good in third and long. And like Jalen Hurts is really.
- [21:37]
Danny Heifetz
And that's the thing. It's. It's com. And again, shout out Cody Alexander match quarters. Who has done. It's an amazing sub stack. I highly recommend it. But it's all these things affect each other. The offensive line's worse and it's hurt. It's not playing as well. You know, Lane Johnson's injured. I still think it's underrated that you know Lane Johnson and like they.
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Craig Korbeck
I couldn't believe he came back.
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Danny Heifetz
Yeah. So he. I know. That was crazy. He came back.
- [21:56]
Craig Korbeck
He was out for like an hour and a half.
- [21:57]
Danny Heifetz
Bizarre. He's a wild person. But the offensive line's injured. That makes everything worse. The obviously the running game is worse. So Saquon a lot of things he added games with these home run explosive plays. Not happening anymore. But the number one thing is the offense is worse, and we've talked about this a lot, but Shane Steichen was an amazing coordinator and got a head coaching job. And then Kellen Moore was hired by Howie Roseman, and Steichen were brought in by the front office, not Sirianni. So it's a Sirianni offense that was bad. And then they brought in that. The front office brought in Steichen, who was so good they made a Super Bowl. Then he left the front office, brought another coordinator, Kellen Moore. These guys were doing all this play action stuff. They were doing motion, they were doing all this different stuff. Now Sirianni won the super bowl, so he has Jews. So he hires Kevin Petullo, who's. Who got his guy, and they're doing the Sirianni offense again. AJ Brown under Steichen was in the slot, like one out of every four plays. AJ Brown this season is in the slot less than every receiver in the NFL. Like, literally, I looked it up. Receivers that have had, I think, 15 targets, which isn't very much, 15 targets. There's 113 receivers who've had 15 targets this season. 113. A.J. brown, slot rate, like, how often he lines up the slot is dead last. It is so predictable.
- [23:10]
Craig Korbeck
There's no creativity, and it doesn't take a genius to see it. You watch the game and you're like, aj's on the left, devonte's on the right. They're standing there, they run straight and then they try to run the ball and nothing happens.
- [23:21]
Danny Heifetz
And even that you could get away with. When you. You're like, well, we have the best offensive line in the NFL, but when your offensive line is not an A plus, maybe it's an A minus or sometimes a B plus. When Lane Johnson comes out to B, Lane Johnson comes back in Hertz an A minus, then it just doesn't work. And then guess what? So Jalen Hurts. His reaction to this has been, well, we just certainly can't turn the ball over. So it becomes conservative. It's all about eliminating mistakes. So Jalen Hurts. Has 16 touchdown passes to one pick. Jalen Hurts. I mean, there's not many negative plays, but there's not many positive ones either because they're not taking chances, which is why every Eagles game is so fucking ugly.
- [23:55]
Danny Kale
So I just realized what the Eagles offense is. Do you. Have you guys ever seen the show A lot alone? Sorry. It's where they go out into the wilderness by themselves and they're supposed to just survive for as long as.
- [24:06]
Danny Heifetz
Is this the One where they're wearing clothes or they're not wearing clothes.
- [24:09]
Danny Kale
Well, alone is a version of that.
- [24:11]
Craig Korbeck
Alone.
- [24:11]
Danny Kale
They are wearing clothes. There was a show called Naked Afraid, which I love, where they go out.
- [24:16]
Danny Heifetz
You're a big naked and afraid guy.
- [24:18]
Danny Kale
Oh, yeah.
- [24:18]
Craig Korbeck
What an unbelievable.
- [24:19]
Danny Kale
Naked and afraid is great, man.
- [24:20]
Craig Korbeck
Imagine like a producer coming and he's like, we throw them in the woods. They're in their naked butt.
- [24:24]
Danny Kale
Naked.
- [24:25]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, they're naked.
- [24:25]
Danny Kale
And it's just like the bugs all over your.
- [24:28]
Danny Heifetz
The bugs.
- [24:28]
Danny Kale
Crotchal region. But there's a certain segment and I. And Alone, I think is like work to try and like not let contestants do this as much. But there's a certain contingent of the. The contestants who just get really fat before the season and then just like sit in their little shelter and starve themselves. And they're basically like, I'm gonna starve myself longer than these other people.
- [24:52]
Craig Korbeck
My body will live off its own fat reserve, like legitimately.
- [24:55]
Danny Kale
Because it's so hard. It's so hard to go out into the wilderness and hunt. All these people go out there and like, so they're like myself, whatever.
- [25:01]
Craig Korbeck
They hide.
- [25:01]
Danny Heifetz
So they're camping, but not literally sit.
- [25:04]
Danny Kale
In their fucking video games for like three months, starving themselves, hoping to out starve the other people. This is essentially what the Eagles are doing. They're trying to. They're fat before the season. They're starving themselves. We're just not going to turn the ball over. We're going to win by not turning the ball over. It doesn't matter how bad we are. It doesn't matter if we never score any points. We're just not going to turn the ball over. They're. They're. They're alone. So the Eagles are naked and afraid.
- [25:26]
Danny Heifetz
Naked. The fat guy on Naked and afraid.
- [25:29]
Danny Kale
That's who The Eagles are 100%. They build a shelter and they hang out.
- [25:35]
Craig Korbeck
Some of your best work.
- [25:37]
Danny Heifetz
Wow.
- [25:37]
Danny Kale
Email us Also, I love those shows.
- [25:40]
Danny Heifetz
On Naked and Afraid.
- [25:41]
Danny Kale
The fucking best.
- [25:42]
Craig Korbeck
I hope that. That Detroit can get out to an early lead and that things. Because we. We've actually, we saw that. We saw that happen in the Rams game where the Rams got up early on the Eagles and then they clawed back and they actually had to throw the ball. And gee, in that game, they scored 33 points. They won. A.J. brown had 110 yards and a touchdown. And like, the offense for. For the second half looked like the Eagles. We remember because they were forced into it.
- [26:05]
Danny Heifetz
It's the. Yeah.
- [26:06]
Danny Kale
It's only when. Yeah, it's like literally only when they get behind is when they're good.
- [26:10]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. It's only when they're really hungry and they got to go kill a boar.
- [26:14]
Danny Heifetz
It's unbelievable. So, yeah, I think, yeah, those are the best two games I really want to see. You know, better late than never. Lions, Eagles, the next gate. So the early get Sunday to football. But going back to chronological here, so Sunday, so the early games there's first we have the commanders are at the quote unquote at the Miami Dolphins. This is the first NFL game in Spain. It's in Madrid. Oh, cool lot going on here. It's Marcus Mariota versus Tua. And I wanted to just shout out Craig, did you see that Mario and Tua went to the same high school in Honolulu?
- [26:49]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, really? I didn't know that.
- [26:50]
Danny Heifetz
They're from the same place.
- [26:51]
Danny Kale
Like Hawaii legends.
- [26:53]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, the best. I mean, I think Mario was the first Hawaiian NFL quarterback, but it's just funny. So I looked it up and it's 11 hours apart. So this game's going to be on in Hawaii at 4:30 in the morning because it's in Madrid.
- [27:02]
Danny Kale
Oh, wow. Yeah.
- [27:03]
Danny Heifetz
But it is funny. I just. The sheer odds of the sentence two guys from the same high school in Hawaii are going to quarterback the first game in Spain for the NFL is just kind of funny. But also.
- [27:11]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I know. I feel like I. I feel bad a little bit for the Spaniards because it's not the best game in the world. No 2007 teams. Miami.
- [27:21]
Danny Kale
It's not the worst game in the world.
- [27:23]
Craig Korbeck
No, it's not. It's not the worst game. I guess it could be like Jets Brown.
- [27:27]
Danny Heifetz
It's funny because you said in the world. And like actually it's.
- [27:30]
Danny Kale
That's actually it's not the worst game in the world at that.
- [27:32]
Danny Heifetz
No.
- [27:32]
Danny Kale
On that day. Yeah.
- [27:33]
Craig Korbeck
No. Although I guess you could make the case that Miami is kind of putting some things together and has looked half decent to the last three weeks. But the commander's team is. Is completely in shambles. And I think from a fantasy standpoint, like, I guess the only person you're maybe thinking about playing is Debo Samuel.
- [27:48]
Danny Heifetz
Is there any game that has less players you can play in fantasy than this one? It's like Washington. It's kind of just. Oh, yeah, it's the Washington. It's like the running game's kind of splintered and bad. So it's like Debo. And I guess you can.
- [27:59]
Danny Kale
Mariota.
- [28:00]
Danny Heifetz
I guess you could play Mario.
- [28:01]
Danny Kale
Yeah. Two quarterback.
- [28:02]
Danny Heifetz
And then it's Devon Hn and Jalen Waddle and I. That's kind of it for people you would play at fantasy. There's four people you could play in fantasy.
- [28:10]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [28:10]
Craig Korbeck
Did you guys see I. I kind of didn't realize that there were. I mean he's not going to come back because the team's going to be bad. But they said that like there's a chance that Jaden Daniels could have come back had the team been up pretty decent this year. That feels insane to me.
- [28:24]
Danny Heifetz
I mean I guess that makes sense to me in the sense that it's not his throwing arm. But also you need your arm.
- [28:29]
Danny Kale
Well they said that it. What There was no ligament damage or something along those lines.
- [28:35]
Craig Korbeck
There's no fract.
- [28:37]
Danny Heifetz
No. Then they came out and said a ligament damage and it was no ligament or fractures.
- [28:41]
Craig Korbeck
So what do you do?
- [28:42]
Danny Heifetz
But I. The fracture thing makes sense because like. Yeah that doesn't have to be a fracture. The problem is dislocated knee is it can still kill you because it just can tear your arteries and ligaments and it's like the act. The violence of a You're the getting ripped out of the socket could dis.
- [28:57]
Craig Korbeck
But if it didn't tear ligaments it didn't break any bone. What did it. What happened to it?
- [29:01]
Danny Kale
Just got out of place.
- [29:02]
Craig Korbeck
Just popped out.
- [29:03]
Danny Heifetz
I don't. I don't know. I'm so confused.
- [29:06]
Danny Kale
Pop it back in. Get out there.
- [29:07]
Danny Heifetz
Where are the doctors? Listen to the showing.
- [29:10]
Craig Korbeck
What is taking him so long? Why isn't he back of a. Yeah, back in.
- [29:14]
Danny Heifetz
Come on Jaden. My God. Can any doctor's email us and explain how the Jaden Daniels no fractures, no ligaments. Still injured like what? Yeah. What else is there? Muscle just non throwing arm.
- [29:24]
Danny Kale
The commanders fall.
- [29:26]
Craig Korbeck
He's skinny.
- [29:26]
Danny Heifetz
There's not much skinny. Yeah, you're right. So nothing was nothing. They're gonna hurt. Yeah. We can move on this game. That was funny.
- [29:33]
Craig Korbeck
Like couldn't he just wear like a. Like kind of like a bionic arm air cast thing and just out there with that.
- [29:38]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah. I think the problem is that we get her.
- [29:40]
Danny Kale
I don't really J.J. watt.
- [29:41]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Like why can't a quarterback.
- [29:44]
Danny Heifetz
He already has them big looking bows though his bows are kind of fat.
- [29:49]
Craig Korbeck
No, I thought that was like a bone spur.
- [29:50]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, he had the little versa sack. Yeah. The bursa sack. His versus sack already a burst bursa. Yeah. The we can move on this game doesn't deserve our time. The Earl the other early games. I think this is A very interesting early slate though. The. There's a lot of rematches, but first I want to just get to. The Bucks are playing the Bills.
- [30:07]
Craig Korbeck
By the way, I confused bone spur with bursa. Just want to let people know that.
- [30:10]
Danny Heifetz
Thanks.
- [30:11]
Danny Kale
Just not just getting ahead of the emailers.
- [30:13]
Craig Korbeck
Yes, yes, I know there's people firing up Gmail right now. They're like, damn it.
- [30:19]
Danny Kale
And they're coming back to this after sending the email.
- [30:21]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, good. I hope they are.
- [30:22]
Danny Heifetz
Is a bone spur kind of like a. Like a banana chip just comes off your bone? Like it just. It's just a little splinter.
- [30:27]
Danny Kale
Like a little banana slices?
- [30:28]
Danny Heifetz
I don't know. Like a dried. I can't think of it. Like a little. I don't know.
- [30:31]
Craig Korbeck
I don't know.
- [30:32]
Danny Kale
Yes, I think it's like a. Like a calcified piece of bone that chips off.
- [30:36]
Danny Heifetz
But is it like a little pebble or is it like a slice? Like a little.
- [30:39]
Craig Korbeck
It's an abnormal bony growth that forms on a bones edge. I guess you could see where I. I thought that is what he had.
- [30:44]
Danny Heifetz
Okay, okay, okay.
- [30:45]
Danny Kale
You were on the right track.
- [30:46]
Danny Heifetz
No, yeah.
- [30:48]
Craig Korbeck
Called an Osteo fight.
- [30:50]
Danny Kale
Totally.
- [30:50]
Danny Heifetz
So anyway, the Bucks are at the Bills this week. They're both six and three.
- [30:54]
Craig Korbeck
This is a weird game. This is like two teams that I feel like people have lost faith in.
- [30:58]
Danny Heifetz
That are good and also because they're really hurt. And I think Bill's offense is frankly, not as hurt as much as the Bills offense is disappointing because they kind of went. They. They swung the pendulum too far and trying to run and now they can't throw. And then the. Especially now that you know Kincaid's got a hammy. There's a bunch of things going on. But the Bill's defense is just a lot of injuries. Bucks defenses, I mean, Bucks just have a lot of injuries both sides of the ball. Frankly, my favorite part of this was Baker and Josh actually chirping each other. Like, I actually. I feel like I'm so used to all these players, like just saying nice shit about each other or talking shit, but that Josh and Baker are actually friends. So Baker got. Baker's the fucking best. Even when he's not playing well. Baker came out and he was just like, Josh, really tall, don't know how to talk to him sometimes can't make eye contact. Got to tell you, the small hands on that guy.
- [31:43]
Danny Kale
And so how do you deal with a guy who's taller than you? You insinuate he has a small dick, so.
- [31:48]
Craig Korbeck
That's right.
- [31:49]
Danny Heifetz
It's incredible. So then they told this to Josh and he laughed. He said. And he basically was like, that's rich. Coming from Baker, who wears two gloves when he plays golf.
- [31:57]
Craig Korbeck
Oh.
- [31:59]
Danny Heifetz
And I was like, I love this. This is great.
- [32:00]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's like a roast.
- [32:02]
Danny Heifetz
It's good. But yeah, I mean, obviously they both went really high in the 2018 draft, but Bucky Irving, the Bucks running back, return to practice this week. I kind of still don't think he's going to play.
- [32:12]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it was like a walk through type thing.
- [32:15]
Danny Heifetz
Bucky had this weird thing where he had an ankle injury and a shoulder injury, and I forget the exact order, but I believe he had this ankle injury and then he kind of kept the shoulder injury, maybe hypothetically, a little bit to himself, hoping he would just get over it with, rub dirt on it because he wanted to play.
- [32:28]
Craig Korbeck
He's listed as doubtful on. On, like, all the fantasy platforms that you don't see a lot.
- [32:33]
Danny Kale
I don't think he is actually doubtful yet.
- [32:35]
Craig Korbeck
I know, but it's weird. He's listed as doubtful on Yahoo. Which, like, they don't ever usually say, which is odd.
- [32:41]
Danny Kale
My guess is. Yeah, my guess would be what Hive had said is they're ramping them up a little bit this week. They probably won't play him because as of last week, the coaches. I can't remember who said it, but Bulls, maybe. He. He was saying that he still hasn't even taken contact yet with his shoulder. And that's like the main thing.
- [33:00]
Danny Heifetz
Exactly.
- [33:01]
Danny Kale
It's.
- [33:01]
Danny Heifetz
It's a good example of everyone's like, oh, he'll be back after the buy, because they would have put him an inch of reserve. And it's like, well, every now and then it's a medical situation. Things happen and they aren't like they're setbacks or whatever. And I kind of just think Bucky's shoulder has kind of just been worse than they thought the whole time. So we'll see. I think Sean Tucker is super playable in this game. Like Rashad White is certainly playable. The Bills run defense is not very good. Obviously not stylistically the same, but the Dolphins just ran for a ton of yards in the Bills. I don't think the Bills run defense is very good. And I think Sean Tucker. I know the Bucks haven't been running as well, but the Bucks played the Patriots and a bunch of teams with good runes. I think Sean Tucker for the Bucks is very startable and Rashad White, like, in a pinch. And Rashad White is definitely A play.
- [33:37]
Craig Korbeck
This week versus I know it has been tough. I mean I people have been since Bucky went out. I Rashad White came in, he had two good weeks and then has put up three stinkers in a row. But you're right, it was. They're at Detroit, at New Orleans and then playing the Patriots, which is very different than the Bills.
- [33:50]
Danny Heifetz
It's kind of like how the Raiders this week are going to go from playing the Broncos and you're like, oh my God, Brock Bowers had like two catches or whatever. But it's like now the Raiders are going for the Broncos to the Cowboys and you're like it's obvious those passing defenses are worse. Run defense isn't quite as obvious sometimes, but the Bills run D is not great.
- [34:05]
Craig Korbeck
Giving up the sixth most fantasy points to running back this year. Buffalo.
- [34:09]
Danny Heifetz
The rest of the one o' clock games I thought it was really the Eastern, the early games, I thought it was interesting. There's a lot of games that are rematches from earlier games that I just think are significant. And starting with yeah, the Chicago Bears are at Minnesota DK. This was they. They played in week one on Monday football. Vikings won that 2724 and it was that game where I mean because that.
- [34:26]
Danny Kale
Was the anointing of JJ McCarthy.
- [34:28]
Craig Korbeck
This is when he went full Tebow.
- [34:29]
Danny Heifetz
He did.
- [34:31]
Danny Kale
When nine came out in the fourth quarter and and did his thing.
- [34:35]
Danny Heifetz
Dude, Craig's picture of him looking like Randall from Monsters Inc.
- [34:39]
Craig Korbeck
He dies.
- [34:40]
Danny Kale
Dude. Can we post that?
- [34:41]
Craig Korbeck
Well, so if he's nine in the in the fourth quarter, is that what is he in the first three? Six?
- [34:46]
Danny Kale
Not even.
- [34:47]
Craig Korbeck
How's that work?
- [34:47]
Danny Kale
Dude, his numbers this year.
- [34:49]
Danny Heifetz
Sorry.
- [34:50]
Danny Kale
Just to check in on JJ McCarthy and this includes that that really good quarter. Lord have mercy. These numbers are not good. 54 completions, five touchdowns, six picks, seven turnovers. Total 6.4 yards per attempt. 30th, which is even worse than Justin Fields in yards per attempt. 65 pass rating worse than everyone except for Cooper Rush. EPA for drop pack worse than everyone except for Jake Browning and Cooper rush. 14.8% off target rate. Worse than everyone except for Caleb Williams and Tyler shuck. And his 12.2% sac rate is worse than everyone except for Justin Fields. So really bad so far.
- [35:26]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, but you know what? Wins too.
- [35:29]
Danny Kale
Yeah. And this is a really big game for the Vikings.
- [35:33]
Danny Heifetz
It's a big game for McCarthy.
- [35:34]
Danny Kale
Really.
- [35:34]
Danny Heifetz
It's a huge game for J.
- [35:36]
Danny Kale
It's a get right game potentially because the Bears defense has not been very good since we did the check in on J.J. mcCarthy, I want to check in on Caleb Williams. Compare a little bit like we're about halfway through the season, compare this year to last year because he's actually been a lot better if you look at a lot of the numbers. His accuracy, I think is still the big hiccup that he's had. He's just not very accurate. And that's, that's.
- [35:56]
Craig Korbeck
I think he's off target throw rate, I believe is still the highest.
- [35:59]
Danny Heifetz
We need to tweak off target throw rate because, you know, like a gymnastics in the Olympics, they. It's a multiplier based on how hard what you tried to do was.
- [36:08]
Craig Korbeck
You're saying it's even worse than the Ben Johnson oven. So these guys are wide open.
- [36:11]
Danny Heifetz
No, I'm saying that when you watch like the Bears game, obviously the Bears performance was totally like washed over by the Giants and Jackson Dark getting hurt, Dable getting fired. Every throw Caleb Williams tried. Not everyone. 9.9 on the. Yeah, hard. And they were so close and I'm.
- [36:28]
Danny Kale
Like, they technically missed the easy ones.
- [36:30]
Danny Heifetz
Yes. And that's the funny part is like the hard throws he tries. I'm like, he doesn't land. He doesn't stick the landing. But I'm like, man, that was cool. Crazy. He even tried that. He just came so close and then he misses some screens. I'm like, what the.
- [36:42]
Danny Kale
But yeah, let me, let me get back to the. The comps for this year versus last year. So obviously completion rate and off target rate are still pretty bad. And, and especially, I mean they're basically the same as last year, which is not what you wanted to see. But everything else besides that, in terms of efficiency metrics, like 40. His success rate is up. His EPA for drop back this year, 13th in the NFL. Last year it was 30th. His sac rate, which is to me, this is the number one stat to look at in terms of Caleb Williams this year compared to last year. 4.6% sac rate, fifth best in the NFL. Last year he was 35th out of 36. And only will Levis was worse than him. I mean, he had an all time.
- [37:18]
Danny Heifetz
Terrible sack, the fourth most sacks ever season.
- [37:20]
Danny Kale
Yeah, like it was like, you know, not quite. This is not something you can come back from. But it was like almost to the point where you're like, okay, he can't play in the NFL if this kind of thing keeps happening. So I think for him to go from, you know, literally second to dead last to now fifth best in the NFL in terms of SAC rate, that's massive.
- [37:40]
Danny Heifetz
And to that point, Justin Fields, his rookie year for the Bears, his SAC rate was like 12%. And then his second year, the SAC rate was like almost 15. So for Caleb to. And then guess what? Justin Field SAC rate this year is 12. Like for Caleb Williams to cut that number, it's very important.
- [37:53]
Danny Kale
Yeah, 4.6 this year. He's only taken 14 sacks in nine games. Last year he took 68 sacks this high. Said, I'm gonna ask you guys, this body language. Do you think it's better?
- [38:03]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, of course.
- [38:04]
Danny Kale
Of course it's quite a bit better.
- [38:05]
Danny Heifetz
Winning makes it better. I mean, for sure.
- [38:07]
Danny Kale
That's what I wrote down here is they're winning. So that certainly helps. But I, I would say he just has fewer moments where I'm like, he looks defeated, like, he looks like he's given up.
- [38:17]
Danny Heifetz
Well, maybe because there's no Hail Marys that start a 10 game losing streak.
- [38:20]
Danny Kale
There were so many plays last year where I was like, Jesus Christ. Like, he's just sitting on the bench like pouting.
- [38:25]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. The benefit of a very easy schedule.
- [38:28]
Danny Heifetz
This year, Very easy schedule. They've had to do more with Caleb, I think, because the secondary is bad. I, I think. Or just the defense for Chicago, it's just horrific. But I, I think the game is slowing down for Caleb. It's not at the point where the game is slow for him yet, but it's clearly. I just think the game was very fast for Caleb last year. Even at the beginning of this year.
- [38:46]
Craig Korbeck
It'S still, I think, especially because of the dyslexia.
- [38:51]
Danny Kale
Craig's been sitting on that now we.
- [38:54]
Danny Heifetz
Have to explain that now. Yeah, the, the co. The fired anonymous coaches from last year claimed that Caleb had dyslexia, which were unable to.
- [39:01]
Craig Korbeck
No one. There was never any follow up on that. Like, we don't know if that's true or not.
- [39:06]
Danny Kale
Right.
- [39:06]
Danny Heifetz
It. You know that that's the awkward thing of like. Well, the fired anonymous coaches say he has dyslexia and then no one's able to.
- [39:11]
Danny Kale
They insinuated he has dyslexia. There was no actual like prognosis by anyone, nor was there any explanation of what that actually means.
- [39:18]
Danny Heifetz
And also it matters a lot to me about, about whether the people who insinuated that were like 30 or like 70.
- [39:24]
Danny Kale
Right.
- [39:24]
Danny Heifetz
You know what I mean?
- [39:24]
Danny Kale
I'm like, I don't even know what dyslexia is.
- [39:26]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. A 70 year old man has any idea what dyslexia even means.
- [39:30]
Craig Korbeck
That's probably why he paints his nails. Because he's got this. Doesn't know what color it is. And you're like, that's not what dyslexia is like. Whatever.
- [39:35]
Danny Heifetz
He's colorblind. But yeah, it's a huge game for J.J. mcCarthy though, in particular. You know, I think J.J. mcCarthy is just a massive game for J.J. look.
- [39:43]
Craig Korbeck
Here'S what I'll say. Here's what I'll say. We're going to learn a lot about these quarterbacks.
- [39:47]
Danny Heifetz
You're going to learn a lot about these.
- [39:50]
Danny Kale
Right now the Bears have, according to ESPN's Playoff Prognosticator tool. I don't know exactly how they work it, but they, they give the Bears a 49 chance to make the playoffs.
- [40:01]
Danny Heifetz
This tool, I don't know.
- [40:02]
Danny Kale
It works.
- [40:03]
Craig Korbeck
Wait, wait. So the tool just said it's a coin flip?
- [40:05]
Danny Heifetz
Yep.
- [40:06]
Craig Korbeck
Okay.
- [40:06]
Danny Kale
If they won this game, I'm sure it'll be better. But I mean, think about it. The Bears are in the division with the Lions and the Packers.
- [40:14]
Danny Heifetz
Should we make one of those things that's just has no idea what it's doing?
- [40:17]
Craig Korbeck
Does it add to the.
- [40:19]
Danny Kale
Let's like the ringer eight ball. The ringer eight ball. Come on, let's throw it out there.
- [40:23]
Craig Korbeck
We should make it.
- [40:23]
Danny Kale
Chances are good you'll make the playoffs.
- [40:28]
Craig Korbeck
I feel like the fan is. There's actually a lot of like tricky fantasy aspects of this game. Like everyone's beat up. It's like DJ Moore left last week with a shoulder, but now he's limited practice. He's probably going to play. It's like you have Aaron Jones is. They're kind of trying to bring him back and have him be the one A. But he's hurt. He's got a shoulder and a toe injury that he's playing through right now. But when he is playing, he looks good. DeAndre Swift has been beat up all year. But again when he's on the field he like looks good and he's playing good and kind of retook his role as the number one from a nun guy.
- [40:58]
Danny Heifetz
These are easy to me though. Unless you play all of them. Unless they're true game time decisions, which you know how I feel about that now, which is if a guy's truly game time decision, then he's not healthy. Like and I don't want to play them. But other. Unless they're like warming up at 11 and people still don't know you play Aaron Jones because the Bears defense is awful.
- [41:13]
Craig Korbeck
Obviously that's easier said than done. Like, what does that mean?
- [41:15]
Danny Heifetz
Like, you should play Aaron Jones in your flex. I don't think you have three players better than Aaron Jones is what I'm saying.
- [41:20]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, I bet you you have Aaron Jones versus Rashad White or Aaron Jones versus David Montgomery.
- [41:25]
Danny Heifetz
I'd play.
- [41:26]
Craig Korbeck
You know what I mean?
- [41:26]
Danny Heifetz
I play Aaron Jones over Camara. I'd play Aaron. I would play Aaron Jones because the Bears defense is really bad and Aaron Jones is getting all the touches when he plays. I would not play DJ Moore because I you need to see. I cannot play DJ Moore until I see some signs of life from him again post injury. I think you do play DeAndre Swift. Even the Vikings run digi just because you've seen. I just trust Ben Johnson. I would play Justin Jefferson, obviously, but I would not play teacher Hawkinson because I think Hawkinson just until we see McCarthy even against the Bears defense, I kind of need to see that he's not going to block as much. Anyway.
- [41:55]
Craig Korbeck
It's been hard out there. All the Vikings stats are just a little bit different with McCarthy. The ceiling's not there.
- [42:02]
Danny Heifetz
Other rematch There's a lot of rematches in this week, but another fun one. Bengals are at the Pittsburgh Steelers, which we last saw the icy hot bowl of Flacco beating Rogers and Thursday football and fucking Jamar.
- [42:12]
Danny Kale
One of the greatest games of all time.
- [42:13]
Craig Korbeck
23 targets the the Unk Bowl. Yeah, I would just like to point out that we're kind of barreling towards my prediction from a month ago being exactly, exactly accurate of the Ravens and the Steelers will both be 6 and 5 come week 13, which right now the Steelers are 5 and 4. They are now playing the Bengals this week and the Bears next week. I think they're going to go one and one. The Ravens are playing the Browns and the Jets. I think they're going to go two zero and they're going to be tied. It's crazy. The Ravens are already minus 230 to win the division. Like, everyone's just like, yeah, it's inevitable. Like, and it was obvious when they were one in five and it was like, when's Lamar coming back? They're going to win the division.
- [42:49]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [42:49]
Danny Heifetz
The Ravens had the 10th best Super bowl odds when they were one and five.
- [42:53]
Danny Kale
Yeah. Wild.
- [42:56]
Craig Korbeck
But this game, this is funny. We got news this week that Burrow wants to come back and says he's healthy enough to come back and is and is targeting Thanksgiving Day. They play the Ravens On Thanksgiving day.
- [43:07]
Danny Kale
And the bingo said, no, thanks. Yeah, Flaco, we got Flacco now.
- [43:11]
Craig Korbeck
That guy's averaging more points than you, chief. Rest up. We'll see you next year, son. QB competition.
- [43:17]
Danny Kale
We'll call you later.
- [43:19]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I mean, look, I. I doubt the Bengals are. I mean, maybe I. If they win both games over the next two weeks, maybe he would come back and be still.
- [43:26]
Danny Heifetz
Why? Why should he come back?
- [43:30]
Craig Korbeck
What do you mean, why should he come back?
- [43:32]
Danny Heifetz
Because Joe Burrow is not, like, coming back 100% healthy. The original date was, like, December 6th would be early. December 14th would be early.
- [43:42]
Craig Korbeck
Now it's a week before.
- [43:43]
Danny Heifetz
And now they're, like, gonna move up the timeline as if the offense is struggling. The offense has scored 42, 38, 33. Like, the offense is not the problem. Burrow's way more likely to make it wor. Unhealthy. Burrow is more likely to either make the offense worse or re. Injure his foot than he is to make it better.
- [44:01]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, that's fine.
- [44:03]
Danny Heifetz
Make him healthy.
- [44:04]
Craig Korbeck
Joe Flacco has beaten the shitty Steelers, the shitty jets, and then they lost to the Bears.
- [44:09]
Danny Heifetz
But The Bengals are 3 and 6. At what record do you risk, Joe Burrows? Well, making it worse.
- [44:14]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, if they beat the Steelers and they have four wins and they're now almost at second, I mean, they. They theoretically would be in the mix. I mean, yeah, like I said, in two weeks, both teams, the Steelers and the. The Ravens could be 6 and 5, and the Bengals could be whatever, 4 and 8. But, like, if you're Joe Burrow, you're coming back if you can play.
- [44:32]
Danny Heifetz
He said he wants to play on Thanksgiving versus the Ravens because that would basically be cool. Also, do you see is all his crystals? Ben, baby DSPN talked about this. He has all his crystals he put on Instagram that he's using to heal his foot.
- [44:42]
Danny Kale
Okay, what is that?
- [44:44]
Danny Heifetz
Like, no, like dk. Like, did you see the photo? Like, it's a lot of crystals. It's not like two. I wouldn't mention it.
- [44:51]
Danny Kale
Crystals on his feet.
- [44:52]
Craig Korbeck
Is that a performative thing or is he actually think that's real?
- [44:54]
Danny Heifetz
That's what I wanted to ask you guys. Oh, you guys didn't see this, did you? Okay, I gotta wait. Give me a second to pull it up.
- [45:00]
Danny Kale
Van, I don't. I. I don't understand.
- [45:02]
Craig Korbeck
I feel like I understand why Joe bro wants to come back. And if. And if he thinks he's healthy enough to play. You play Joe Burrow.
- [45:09]
Danny Kale
What are we Talking about competitor. Yeah.
- [45:10]
Craig Korbeck
What are we talking about? Like, you're playing. You're playing Lamar.
- [45:14]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [45:15]
Craig Korbeck
On week 13 for Thanksgiving. If Burrow is able to play, you do it. I don't care if Joe Flacco is like, racking up 350 yards a game. But anyway, I'll. I think this game is. Honestly, like, I think this is a game the Steelers can lose again. Like, I don't. The cornerbacks are hurt. Darius Slade's got a concussion. He's probably not going to play. They're. They're moving Jalen Ramsey all over the place. He's now going from safety, back to corner, back to safety because there's not enough people in the secondary. So I don't know. I think. I think for fantasy, like, this is a game where you can probably get away with playing some Steelers. Like I. The tight ends. The Bengals give up the.
- [45:57]
Danny Kale
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
- [45:58]
Craig Korbeck
The. A league high, 30% of targets to tight ends. And so Friarmouth, Johnu, although they've been really hit and miss, like, I actually do think those are guys you could play. The last time these two teams played John who. Pat and Darnell Washington all had touchdowns. They've actually been a little bit stingier towards wide receivers. The Bengals quietly have a very good cornerback and they've actually been kind of tough to get the ball to wide receivers. So I think, like DK Metcalf versus, like, Pat Friarmouth, weirdly, I would. Would almost take Pat Friarmouth in this game.
- [46:30]
Danny Kale
That's wild. I was just thinking about. This is sort of not super related to what you're talking about, but just. Man, has anybody in the NFL had like a worse trade in terms of his perceived value and overall famousness than Johnny Smith? Like last year he was incredible. And he. On the Dolphins, he gets a record, right? Yeah.
- [46:48]
Craig Korbeck
Most catches on the Dolphins traded to the Steelers.
- [46:51]
Danny Kale
And I. I don't think I thought about him one time this year. It's no.
- [46:54]
Craig Korbeck
And he was more mixed than in the. In the beginning of the season.
- [46:56]
Danny Heifetz
Took me a long time, but I found the crystals.
- [47:00]
Danny Kale
Okay.
- [47:01]
Craig Korbeck
I can't see that.
- [47:02]
Danny Kale
What. So there was no.
- [47:03]
Danny Heifetz
That's a lot of crystals.
- [47:05]
Danny Kale
No context given with these crystals.
- [47:06]
Danny Heifetz
Like 20.
- [47:07]
Danny Kale
They're doing.
- [47:08]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, it's like 25 crystals.
- [47:10]
Danny Kale
What.
- [47:11]
Danny Heifetz
What's.
- [47:11]
Danny Kale
I don't. I admit to not really knowing much about crystals and. And their healing properties.
- [47:17]
Craig Korbeck
Look, man, I. I don't know if anybody can. Can give you that information.
- [47:20]
Danny Heifetz
If anyone can explain what he can give me. Hearing healing from Burrow, please email Us.
- [47:24]
Craig Korbeck
Look, you know, people are looking for, for, for religion in a, in a godless world.
- [47:29]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, you know, do you remember that email we got from the woman who was a witch?
- [47:33]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [47:34]
Danny Heifetz
We. If the witch is listening, can you please email a self identify. I'm not calling her a witch. She called herself.
- [47:39]
Danny Kale
Right.
- [47:40]
Danny Heifetz
Using her preferred terms. So if the witch is listening, please email us about the crystal, the witch.
- [47:44]
Craig Korbeck
You know, dk, you're using like she.
- [47:45]
Danny Heifetz
Said she was a witch.
- [47:47]
Craig Korbeck
The cosmic energy of the universe, you know, ushering in good vibes into. Into your bones and healing them.
- [47:54]
Danny Heifetz
Okay.
- [47:55]
Craig Korbeck
That's how.
- [47:56]
Danny Kale
Okay.
- [47:57]
Craig Korbeck
It's also up here. You know, it's in your head.
- [48:00]
Danny Kale
I mean if it, if it works, who cares why, you know, or how another.
- [48:06]
Craig Korbeck
But yeah, to be honest, like I feel like I will say that the Steelers have a unique ability to defy whatever the consensus is about them. Before going into a game. It was like, they're going to get killed by the Colts. They win every week, then they're going to hold their own. The next week they get on by the Chargers and obviously they lost this game a month ago on Thursday Night Football in embarrassing fashion. With that said, like, I kind of think it's just going to be the same game again. I hope that they can figure out a way to get to Flacco. The reason that they've succeeded is that like the difference between Burrow and Flacco is Burrow who's onto the balls a lot. And Flacco gets it fucking out of his hand fast. His time to throw this year has been the third fastest. Like he gets it out super quick. And so to me, it's like if the Steelers can figure out a way to get to Flacco, they're going to win this game. But if he's going to continue to get the ball out quickly, remember this was the game where Flacco Targeted Jamar Chase 23 times.
- [48:52]
Danny Kale
Smart.
- [48:52]
Craig Korbeck
And he had 16.
- [48:53]
Danny Heifetz
And the 23rd time he was uncovered. Just wild.
- [48:56]
Craig Korbeck
Correct. Just right across the field as a game ceiling.
- [48:58]
Danny Kale
Do you think the Steelers coaches have watched that tape?
- [49:01]
Craig Korbeck
No.
- [49:02]
Danny Heifetz
You think they figured out how to cover?
- [49:03]
Danny Kale
Maybe they were like, let's, let's try and figure out a way to that he doesn't do that again.
- [49:07]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's like I feel like they neutered the Steelers by getting rid of the ball so quickly because the Steelers pass has been great. Like they kicked the shit out of Justin Herbert last week because Herbert holds onto the ball and goes through his progressions and Flacco is just like, I'm just going to throw it to Jamar Chase in two seconds. And that's the plan. So we'll see if the Steelers can can adjust to that. I kind of don't think they will.
- [49:30]
Danny Heifetz
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Danny Kale
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Craig Korbeck
And let's be real.
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Danny Heifetz
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Craig Korbeck
I swear by Revitalift Triple power Moisturizer.
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Danny Heifetz
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Craig Korbeck
And it's not a procedure, it's just.
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Danny Kale
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Danny Heifetz
Moisturizer by l' Oreal Paris. Grab it today in fragrance free or with SPF 30 available at your local Walmart. Next game here the packers are at the Giants this week the packers coming off a bizarre loss to the Eagles on Monday to football that if you couldn't watch because of the YouTube TV Disney dispute, you're very lucky. Packers are favor to win this beat the Giants by seven. I mean obviously Giants fired Brian Dable head coach GM the Joe Shane is staying, Mike Kafka the interim or the interim head coach was the offensive coordinator and Jackson darts out with a concussion. So Jameis Winston starting rightfully so. By the way, the Russell James B One of the many reasons I'm so mad at Dable isn't just that he was risking Jackson darts health with all the rushing nor that Jackson Dart was obviously concussed and then they put him back in the game. But what makes me so angry is one of the is that the Giants were putting Jameis Winston as the emergency starter like the third string inactive and Russell Wilson was the backup even though obviously the Giants would rather James Winston start because they're playing him this week and every Giants fan watching new Russell Wilson was cooked. But the Giants wouldn't make Russell Wilson third string because they were embarrassed and they were didn't want to look stupid that the guy they signed and said could start was going to be demoted behind Jameis and they didn't want Russell Wilson's agent to go nuclear on them. So they were. And so one of the reasons Dable needed Dart to go back in is because he knew that Russ couldn't win the game but Jamis could have. So the Giants lost last week among many reasons because they didn't field the most competitive roster or the actual quarterback system that they they they didn't actually put their backup quarterback as the better player. They put it as the player that they thought would save face. Which is kind of amazing to think about. But yeah, James absolutely should be the starter of this game.
- [53:32]
Craig Korbeck
It's fine now that Dart is hurt and like day ball has been fired. I mean I know, I know we say this every year, you poor thing. But I mean you want to lose every game you want.
- [53:43]
Danny Heifetz
Jameis is perfect because it's perfect because Jameis is going to be electric and watchable and I will feel things good and bad and hopefully the Giants will lose and they can just lose out and Maybe they go 2 and 15 if I'm lucky, but in an interesting way. Whereas Russ would probably go like, yeah, win a game or two around, but, like, be very uninteresting the entire time.
- [54:05]
Craig Korbeck
So, yeah, yeah, you want to lose like in Steelers fat. 33, 31.
- [54:09]
Danny Heifetz
Every game that's Darius sleeping is a hamstring injury. So I. Wando Robinson is gonna get some Jamar chase. Ask like, 20. Theo Johnson @ tight end is super live, like, if you have him.
- [54:18]
Danny Kale
And remember what Jamis did last year for Judy and Tillman.
- [54:22]
Danny Heifetz
Jerry Judy literally doubled everyone's career targets. Yards, catches, everything while he played. And then everyone just went right back down. So, yeah, I think the Giants, you can play anyone from this game because who knows what's going to happen. Packers were embarrassing last week and packers fans, and they're also pretty banged up. So Jordan Love just really needs to get back on track. The.
- [54:42]
Craig Korbeck
The packers wide receivers, man, so hard to predict.
- [54:45]
Danny Heifetz
Packers are really. I mean, Tucker Crafts off the season. Romeo Dubs. Romeo Dubs has a chest injury.
- [54:51]
Craig Korbeck
He's back, though. But. Yeah.
- [54:52]
Danny Heifetz
Is he back? Yeah. So that, I mean, just.
- [54:54]
Craig Korbeck
It's like Golden's banged up. It's like Watson off the acl. It's like. It's just kind of a mess. Just a mess.
- [55:00]
Danny Kale
I don't. I'm not saying this because, look, we get a lot of things incorrect in our previews and stuff, but like staying away from the Broncos and staying away from the packers because of their inane, annoying wide receiver rotations, though that is actually, like, aged very well. I will say. Just avoid those teams sometimes. Like. Like coaches. I think Sean Payton does it to piss people off. Matt LaFleur does it just because he thinks it's for the best of. It's for the best. It's for, you know, the success of the team. He wants to win, and he has a lot of good players and they all have different skill sets, so I think that's why he rotates guys. But, man, it's just like, it makes it impossible in fantasy. These are two teams to absolutely just avoid the receivers.
- [55:41]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [55:42]
Danny Kale
The next to the Broncos signed little Jordan Humphrey.
- [55:46]
Craig Korbeck
Is that a big deal to you?
- [55:48]
Danny Heifetz
Honestly, that infuriates me.
- [55:51]
Danny Kale
Broncos even less playable.
- [55:52]
Danny Heifetz
Did they sign him off the Giants practice squad?
- [55:54]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [55:55]
Danny Heifetz
I. This is. Okay. Can I. I'm so fucking mad. Okay. I hate Joe. Shane should have been fired, too, with the Giant. I'm so mad.
- [56:02]
Danny Kale
Here we go.
- [56:02]
Danny Heifetz
Here we go. The Giants have mismanaged their roster in a really bizarre niche way that. But this is a good example. They are so afraid of looking stupid. This is what I was just saying. They really do manage in a way that they don't want people to realize they made a mistake. So the same way Russell Wilson's the backup because they don't want people to. They don't want to see that Jameis was better than Rust because that's embarrassing. The same way.
- [56:31]
Craig Korbeck
Why is that embarrassing? I don't really understand that.
- [56:33]
Danny Heifetz
Because they propped up to the local media all off season, Russell Wilson's really good. And they like and like they just look stupid for saying for months and months and months Russ deserves to be the starter. Russ is good. Russ still has it like and then immediately sucks. Just immediately embarrassing. So. And I also think his agent would go nuclear if Russell Wilson was inactive and they knew their job like dable news job. So I think they, they. I really believe this, that Jamis was better than Russ and they'd rather him play if Dark got hurt. But Russell Wilson was the backup each week, which clearly now that they're playing Jameis instead of Russ, but the same reason they don't want to look stupid. Jalen Hiatt is the third round pick for the Giants who just is terrible. He's unplayable, like, and when I say unplayable, I mean has like nine targets this year. Like literally.
- [57:13]
Danny Kale
I cannot believe that.
- [57:14]
Danny Heifetz
But that's thing he just, he's, he's a Kevin Durant build. He's. He can't run routes, can't catch contest. He can't do anything on a field.
- [57:19]
Danny Kale
He was in that fake offense. Yeah.
- [57:21]
Danny Heifetz
The Giants won't play Jalen Hyatt to the point that when he has to play, they elevate little Jordan Humphrey off the practice squad and start him over like over Hyatt. But they won't sign, they won't cut Jalen Hyatt because then you cut this third round pick and then Joe Shane might get dumped overboard because the Giants owners all read the fucking media and care what the media thinks. So Jalen Hyatt won't get cut because they can't admit defeat on the third round pick. But then when you actually need a receiver because they're. Slayton hurt his hamstring this week. The Giants should just have signed little Jordan Humphrey and they haven't because he's.
- [57:53]
Danny Kale
He can actually make plays.
- [57:54]
Danny Heifetz
Yes. And they, when they had to play and when Darius Slayton was hurt earlier the year, they didn't play Jalen Hyatt. They played Lil Jordan Humphrey. But they won't cut Jalen Hyatt. And like this is what the Giants had multiple times the last two years. Their kicker was hurt and they wouldn't use a practice squad spot in a backup kicker. And so last year they had a game without the fucking kicker. Which is insane. So you think you'd learn from that. You know why the Giants lost that Broncos game? In part because they didn't have a practice squad kicker when Graham G was hurt. They had an international roster exemption on this Jude McAtamney guy who was wearing 98 or whatever. It's not his fault. He's an experiment. The international exemption is for people from other fucking countries who play rugby or soccer and are trying to see it's an extra roster spot to see if the NFL can grow the game and teach the they're not supposed to fucking play in the game. But the Giant. So how have you lost two games in two years because you couldn't have a backup kicker? When you listed your kicker as injured on Wednesday, you couldn't figure out four days to figure this out. There's two ways to score points. They one of them up. The Legends have lost three games in two years because they couldn't get a backup kicker when the kicker was hurt on Wednesday. And then like this, they need a receiver this week and they let the Broncos sign little Jordan Humphrey. And now Jaylen Hyatt's gonna have to.
- [59:06]
Danny Kale
Play hyphens could be a gm.
- [59:08]
Danny Heifetz
I'm so. It's just so. It's so e. Why is this the problem? The Easy. Sorry. I know it's stupid. This is why Joe Shane should have been fired.
- [59:15]
Danny Kale
Truth? Truthful. Truthfully, I did not know bringing up little Jordan Humphrey would have any reaction.
- [59:20]
Craig Korbeck
That was the most impassioned speech ever around a conversation about playing.
- [59:25]
Danny Heifetz
He should start. How did you let us start or go Anyway, I will move on Texans, right?
- [59:30]
Danny Kale
I was wondering where you're going with that. But like the refusing to cut Jalen Hyatt.
- [59:34]
Danny Heifetz
It's because quite hilarious and it sounds so silly, but they literally would rather claim him. Exactly. The Giants would rather save.
- [59:42]
Danny Kale
They've done anything.
- [59:43]
Danny Heifetz
The Giants don't. It sounds so basic, but they don't prioritize fielding the best 53 man roster the last three or four spots. They don't want to cut anyone if they think it'll make them look bad. And guess what?
- [59:55]
Craig Korbeck
He was right.
- [59:56]
Danny Kale
Quickly.
- [59:57]
Danny Heifetz
He was fucking right. Joe Shane saved his job. God damn it. Fuck them. Texans are at the Titans this week. These teams also played in week four, and entering the fourth quarter, Texans were up six to nothing. And then it was 26 to nothing, but can't unsee that one. But C.J. stroud was quarterback for that game. C.J. stroud already ruled out for week 11 with a concussion. So Davis Mills is playing. Get a quarterback for the Texans and I will let you guys go because I just ranted. But yeah, I have nothing to say about this game.
- [60:22]
Danny Kale
I mean, his neck is incredibly long.
- [60:24]
Danny Heifetz
Do you think Davis Mills can win, Craig, considering he's, you know, it's not Trevor Lawrence or Trevor Lawrence. Davis Mills beats every time, but, oh, it's not Trevor Lawrence this week. So what do you think?
- [60:34]
Craig Korbeck
If. I mean, if the Titans can beat Davis Mills and the Texans, then I think Trevor Lawrence should have to retire. That's completely unfair. Also, Davis Mills has just straight up and better for Nico Collins than C.J. stroud. And there's like the backup quarterback effect sometimes in fantasy where they. It's like marches and Joe Flacco where they just zone in. Nico Collins had the best game of the season last. Last week. He had 136 yards and 15 targets. And he's based. And since Stroud has gone down, his target rate is the highest it's been all season. So, you know, in some ways it's not so bad.
- [61:08]
Danny Kale
There's a little bit of Jacoby Brissette happening here.
- [61:10]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [61:10]
Danny Kale
Where you're like, the offense just kind of runs a little bit smoother. I don't know. But obviously that was only one game, but. Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens in this game.
- [61:19]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I. I honestly am, like, kind of not worried about the Texans and Davis Mills. I feel like people are going to be turned off because it's Davis Mills, but, like, I think they're going to win this game just fine.
- [61:28]
Danny Heifetz
Panthers are at the Falcons this week. This is also another weird rematch where the Panthers beat the Falcons 30 to nothing. Craig, what the was up with that?
- [61:35]
Craig Korbeck
I know, 30 to 0, that was. When was that? That was before the Panthers were number one in dvoa.
- [61:42]
Danny Heifetz
Right.
- [61:42]
Danny Kale
Dk The Falcons were.
- [61:44]
Craig Korbeck
Sorry, that was before the Falcons were number one in dvoa.
- [61:46]
Danny Kale
Right, right.
- [61:47]
Danny Heifetz
It was actually. It was, in fact.
- [61:49]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [61:49]
Craig Korbeck
And then somehow they managed to claw their way back up to number one.
- [61:51]
Danny Kale
That's how good they were. Yeah. Right.
- [61:53]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. That game was funny because the. Every time the Panthers won a game, you look at the box score and you're like, man, Bryce Young didn't play well and they won the game. And that was kind of the same thing back then. Even Pennock just had two picks. One was a pick six. They had three turnovers in the game. Bryce Young has had over 200 yards passing once this year. And, And. And then, honestly, Michael Panicks, like, can't hit an out route. So to me, this is a game where it's like, these teams need to fucking run the ball. And it's what has kept both of them in. In every game, particularly with the Panthers, who can really run the ball. But the Falcons just gave up 240 yards to Jonathan Taylor in Berlin. Not that Jonathan Taylor and Chuba Hubbard are the same thing, but, like, this is a game where I would like, gleefully start Rico Dowdle and Chuba Hubbard. Probably, you could probably even get away with Chuba as a flex. But, yeah. There's one thing I wanted to point out about this game. I think, like, in general, it's like you're playing Drake London, you're playing Bijan. I think you probably get away playing Tyler Algier if you wanted to. You're probably playing Kyle Pitts. But I want to talk about Ted McMillan a little bit on the Panthers, who has largely gone under undiscussed, I would say, this season, and yet I think has been really good. And I'm. I'm going to get ahead of it now and, like, stake my claim that next off season I'm going to be very into Ted McMillan, especially if the Panthers make a move at quarterback, which they probably should feel like we kind of have seen.
- [63:13]
Danny Kale
I was going to say that. Yeah, I think.
- [63:15]
Craig Korbeck
I think it's.
- [63:15]
Danny Kale
I think we have the answer.
- [63:17]
Craig Korbeck
Yes, it was like the resurgence happened. And then as we settle into this, like, second attempt at Bryce Young, I think we're kind of realizing that, like, it's probably not there and it's not working. But Ted's been really good. He basically has five catches for 60 scoreless yards every week. But, like, the target share he's receiving as a rookie and, like, his ability to win routes as a rookie and his physicality already, to me, is really, really impressive. And he completely passes the eye test, even though the Panthers are irrelevant and their passing game particularly is irrelevant. I mean, he's ninth in the NFL in target rate as a. I mean, that's just really impressive. And so he might even be a bilo this season. I don't know if, like, if they're ever going to bench Price or however that's going to work, but I just. I think Ted is Somebody who's going to be under the radar next year because of his stats that you're going to look back on this season. But I think he's still been a success as a player in the league.
- [64:04]
Danny Kale
Yeah, no, I totally agree with you. I think he's like pass the eye test in terms of the way he runs routes, the way he moves, you know, his strength at the catch point. All those things have shown up. I think he's obviously been underwhelming in fantasy just because he can't get in the end zone. But that's more, I think just an element of the passing game stinks. You know what I mean? Like, they just can't get in the red zone for him, so. And their run game has been working, so they just keep going with that. But I think, yeah, he's, he's on the right path. He's going to be a really good pro. It's one of those players who I just don't, I don't really have any concerns about, honestly, other than like the environment for him right now.
- [64:40]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I like, I like the Falcons in this game. There's. It's obviously like the revenge. They lost 30 to 0 to the Panthers, but the Falcons sometimes can stick around in games and it honestly all comes down to like, are they going to pressure Michael Pennix and can he make a throw? And like, when he's cleaning the pocket, he's so much better than when he gets pressured. But I, I don't. I'm not completely out in Atlanta.
- [65:03]
Danny Kale
Atlanta's been the most like, bipolar team in the NFL this year. Sometimes they look really dangerous and sometimes they're just like useless. Absolutely terrible.
- [65:14]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, they lost four straight.
- [65:15]
Danny Kale
Man, they're three and six. Where are we at on the like, draft? What number?
- [65:21]
Danny Heifetz
The Falcons trading their number one draft pick.
- [65:23]
Danny Kale
Yeah, so hold on.
- [65:24]
Danny Heifetz
Right now they hold the probably bad idea.
- [65:27]
Danny Kale
They hold the 10th pick overall and they. To the Rams, who are like the fucking best team in the NFL.
- [65:32]
Danny Heifetz
Great fucking call. Better win this game. Late games. Kansas City Chiefs are at the Denver Broncos. Chiefs are favorable to win by three and a half. I mean, the Broncos are winning the division. They're 8 and 2 at the AFC West. Broncos have not had. They haven't had eight wins at this point in the season since Peyton Manning in 2013. But the Chiefs are five and four and favor to win by three and a half. This will be interesting because the Chiefs just came off that Bills game where they. Patrick Mamas had like the lowest completion percentage of his Career. He was hitting like half his or pressured on half his drop backs. But then the Chiefs went on. By now they're playing Denver. Oh, Craig, you're just making sounds. What's up?
- [66:09]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, I. To me, this is like the most everyone is going to be on the Chiefs. Everyone is going to be saying the Andy Reid stat out of the buy. They're coming off of a loss and then a buy. They're playing Denver, who everybody has agreed is the most fraudulent 8 and 2 team we've seen in a long time. They can't move the ball. What is Bill Calbo next? Which I think is Bill's best nickname in like five years. I think that's amazing.
- [66:36]
Danny Heifetz
I'm so jealous.
- [66:39]
Craig Korbeck
He just pukes on himself for the first three quarters. I think that's amazing. But I. I'm. I don't know. The contrarian is like, you should just take Denver, right? It was sick defense, dude. Denver's gonna be on Kansas City.
- [66:52]
Danny Heifetz
We haven't talked about Denver's dnf. Broncos defense allows the fewest yards per drive. The Broncos defense allows the fewest points per drive. The Broncos defense allows the fewest plays of 10 plus yards. Broncos can stop the run. They're tied with the Browns for allowing the fewest yards per carry. But then pass rush. The Broncos are the most sacks in the NFL by, like a ton. And we have not talked about this enough. Nick Bonito is doing great. Nick Bonito is, like, up there.
- [67:13]
Danny Kale
He was on pace to be like, the defensive player of the year for a hot minute there.
- [67:16]
Danny Heifetz
He still. He still might be.
- [67:17]
Danny Kale
So the Broncos still, like, in the. In the mix.
- [67:19]
Danny Heifetz
But yeah, The Broncos have 46 sacks in 10 games, which would have been like the sixth most all of last season. The Broncos have. It's the fourth most sacks any teams had through 10 games since they started tracking sacks. But just to give you an idea, The Broncos have 46. There's 14 more than second place. The Steelers are in second place. The gap in sacks between the Broncos at number one and the Steelers at number two is equal to the gap between the Steelers in second place and the Cardinals, who are in 25th place. That's how many fucking sacks the Broncos have.
- [67:48]
Danny Kale
And.
- [67:48]
Danny Heifetz
And they allow the fuse yards per carry. So, yeah, the cheat. This is a real, real, real, real test for the Kansas City offense that we're like, keep saying, okay, you got Rasheed Rice, you got everything. Like, we'll see. But, man, the Chiefs like Josh Simmons, I could be wrong. I think he's still not with the team at left tackle.
- [68:04]
Danny Kale
The.
- [68:04]
Danny Heifetz
The rookie who has this personal situation he's dealing with. And then there's like Jalen Moore who was like a backup for the Niners last year. Like this will be very interesting if the, the Chiefs can protect against Denver.
- [68:15]
Danny Kale
Yeah, and I think the other thing, and this is just anecdotal, this is just me remembering watching the Broncos, but they have more sacks where it's just like no one got blocked. You know what I mean? They just like they're so good at disguising and mixing of where they're bringing pressure from. They're obviously have a lot of good pass rushers, but it just feels like when you watch teams play the Broncos, it's every, every game is like they get five unblocked sacks. It's crazy how they bring the pressure. So that's obviously like, yeah, this is a huge in this game.
- [68:43]
Craig Korbeck
Well, and particularly Mahomes hasn't been great this year under pressure. His completion rate is like 27th in the league under pressure. His inaccurate throw rate is super high under pressure. I think Caleb's is only below Mahomes when pressured in accurate throw rate. And Denver, like you said dk, I mean third, they lead the league in sacks.
- [69:00]
Danny Kale
Bring the heat.
- [69:01]
Danny Heifetz
The only thing I want to say boot and rally Bow was asked this week about handling adversity and he said, for me it's simple. I delete my social media. I don't have it. So unless somebody says to my face, I don't really hear criticism. And nobody is ever bold enough to say it to my face. I don't get on social media.
- [69:14]
Danny Kale
It's kind of great. I respect it.
- [69:17]
Danny Heifetz
It's cool. When Tua does it, we make fun of him.
- [69:20]
Danny Kale
Did I make fun of him?
- [69:21]
Danny Heifetz
No, I did.
- [69:22]
Danny Kale
Tua just keeps getting up in press conferences and saying stupid.
- [69:25]
Craig Korbeck
That was not.
- [69:26]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, that's true. Tua doesn't realize his press conferences are bad because he does not have social media. He has no idea that they're going poorly.
- [69:33]
Danny Kale
Who do you like? So Craig, you? Obviously everyone's going to be on the. The Chiefs here. Do you like the Broncos in this game or is this a stay away for you?
- [69:40]
Craig Korbeck
I don't know. I think I kind of like. I. I just think this game is going to be ugly.
- [69:43]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I'm not betting on this game, but I will say Broncos J.K. dobbins is hurt. The Broncos have kept this kind of mum and like it's quiet, but I.
- [69:49]
Danny Kale
Think JK slow playing it.
- [69:50]
Danny Heifetz
He's closer to going on injured reserve than playing this week. So I think you definitely want to play RG Harvey this week. But also it would not be shocking to the Sean Payton thing. I wouldn't be shocked if Jaleel McLaughlin, who is inactive last week, ended up being like out getting more carries than R.G. harvey, because I think R.J. harvey, there's a chance, might have a slightly larger version of the role he still has. Whereas the idea is Dobbins was the starter, RJ Harvey is the RJ Harvey role like a Darren Sprolls S kind of guy. And then Tyler Batty, Bidet, whatever, is like pass catcher who really does special teams. And I kind of think Tyler Bidet is still going to do the special teams and RG Harvey is a larger workload, but McLaughlin is like kind of the start. I'm not saying it's definitely going to happen, but you should play RG Harvey in case I'm wrong. But I wouldn't be shocked if RJ Harvey. I mean, I think RJ Harvey should have a larger role, but if Sean Payton. Sean Payton's. I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't play him. As much as you want him. You obviously want RG Harvey to get like 20 touches, but we'll see.
- [70:47]
Craig Korbeck
I just think this game, the Chiefs are favored by 3 1/2 on the road. And I'm like, man, like, this is. I don't know. They got to win by more than.
- [70:54]
Danny Heifetz
A field goal against the best defense. Yeah, that's the. I think it's a good point.
- [70:59]
Craig Korbeck
Or stay away at the least.
- [71:00]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, I forgot. Chargers, Jaguars. Craig. I don't know why, but I feel like you have very strong opinions on these teams.
- [71:06]
Craig Korbeck
I will. I. I'm just very frustrated with Jacksonville. They're just in a tailspin and they've. They've lost three or four. Their only win was against the Raiders in overtime by one. The defense kind of has become completely exposed after the first five weeks of the season when they were first in turnovers. Since then they've been 30th, which is usually how that works.
- [71:26]
Danny Kale
Yeah, yeah, I think we said that in the beginning of the year. It's like you can't just live off turnovers.
- [71:30]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's like the receivers are super hurt. Honestly, I. I think there's a world in which I would say I wouldn't recommend playing anybody on the, on the Jaguars except btn. Like I would be if you didn't want to play Parker Washington or if Brian Thomas tries to Play or Jacoby Myers. Like, the Chargers are super strong right now defensively against the pass. And. And I'm kind of like, I wouldn't put it past you if you had better options, to be honest, on the Jags on the other side of the ball. Dude, Herbert. I gotta say, Herbert is an absolute cyborg. Like, this dude hurt his both ankles on the same play against the Chargers. Against the Steelers. He had. He had both ankles taped in the game. They just taped both of them up and threw him back out there. And then he had like a 30 yard run after that, practicing all week. Harbaugh's like, this guy's a maniac and I love him to death. And. And to be honest, this is going to sound. I kind of feel like the Chargers have now become like the Chargers last year. The defense is really good and I think that the secondary is really good. But I actually think if you. If you still have a little bit of time in your trade deadline. I know trading quarterbacks is hard, but I kind of almost think that Herbert's a little bit of a sell high. Like the dual ankle injury? No, the. The horrible offensive line. Like, I think we're going to go back to like the dink and dunk Chargers that we. For the last couple years, he was.
- [72:51]
Danny Heifetz
Running more because he was healthy, and.
- [72:53]
Craig Korbeck
Now he was healthy. There was time. He was like sticking in the pocket. If nobody was there, he would bail. The. The numbers with and without Joel, their tackle who got hurt, are pretty astonishing. Like, the difference in air yards is like almost 3 yards per attempt difference between when they have Joel versus when they don't.
- [73:10]
Danny Kale
Wow.
- [73:10]
Craig Korbeck
And so I don't think he's gonna run as much. I think it's gonna be dink and dunk. So if you could. Herbert's. He's been okay so far and I think, like, realistically, you could probably trade him right now because there's still a lot of goodwill about him and.
- [73:22]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah. And the last thing I do. To your point, I do think you can play Parker Washington, though, in this game because I think he's gonna get all the targets. And also I. Travis Hunter to season ending injured reserve. We kind of missed that all week because it just happened.
- [73:32]
Danny Kale
Oh, right. We forgot to mention that Travis Hunter's.
- [73:34]
Danny Heifetz
Like, out for this season, which is crazy. And it's a knee injury. And they were like, it's not an acl. Don't worry. No one said it was an. Like, stop saying it's an acl. But I don't think it is but.
- [73:42]
Danny Kale
Lcl, I don't know.
- [73:43]
Danny Heifetz
I don't know. But he's out for the season with the knee injury that happened in non contact in practice. So take that for what you will. But I just wanted like, look, you guys know how I felt about Travis Hunter in college, but even I was tepid about the trade, but obviously it's gone worse than most. I mean, Jags gave up a second. The Jags moved up three spots in the draft and they gave up a second rounder this year and a future first to take Travis Hunter who frankly had very little impact on the Jaguars this season on either side of the ball. And you know, I could take the L about being but you know who else was even more in a Travis Hunter than make me the fucking Jaguars. Because even I wasn't saying you should give up a future first round pick and a second to go and get Travis Hunter because they. I would say he could do it. Real impactable sides of the ball. The Jags paid a price that kind of needed Travis Hunter to have impactable. I mean they give up. It's a lot of pick.
- [74:35]
Danny Kale
That's because it's a quarterback trade.
- [74:38]
Danny Heifetz
Yes, they paid 100%. They paid like he played two positions. That's really what the Browns price. It was very smart. And when you're using the pick on him, the number two pick in the draft and a future first and a second round pick, that's three people who should start for you. And the Jags were like, we're so smart. He'll definitely be good at both. And I'm like, well, Liam Cohen's already like, we're not going to talk about him specializing now. But it's in this weird thing of do you have him recover from injury and also try to do two positions next year or do you have him specialize and admit that you paid two first and a second for a guy who's going to be receiver? Because either way it's there. It's. It was not a good way to start the regime. It was quite.
- [75:13]
Craig Korbeck
I feel like we can already definitively say it was obviously a stupid trade.
- [75:17]
Danny Heifetz
It was a, it was a, it was a huge mistake. And even. And I knew that because I love Travis Hunter and I was like that they paid as if he definitely will play both spots very well. Which I feel like even I was just excited that he, I thought he could. And even I was right in the night of the trade I was like, oh, that's a lot. It's cool though. But yeah, it didn't work out. Whoops.
- [75:39]
Danny Kale
I mean, it's still. It's not over, but. Yeah, it's.
- [75:41]
Craig Korbeck
No, but I think for what they gave up for him.
- [75:43]
Danny Kale
Right.
- [75:44]
Danny Heifetz
I mean, they could have just.
- [75:45]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, I don't think he's a good player.
- [75:46]
Danny Heifetz
They could have just had like Abdul Carter or I guess. No, they had the fifth pick. Sorry. But they could have just had like Macy Graham or someone. Literally. I just. It just. It's a lot to give. Just the idea of giving up a future first and a second for not a quarterback in the draft is probably a mistake.
- [75:58]
Danny Kale
Generally that's never happened before. Yeah.
- [76:01]
Danny Heifetz
Anyway, if only the GM wasn't 17 years old, maybe they could have figured that out.
- [76:04]
Danny Kale
But.
- [76:07]
Danny Heifetz
Other games here the Ravens are playing the Browns. We saw this game also week two. The Ravens beat the Browns. It was really close. And then it was not. It was 41:17. The Ravens kind of pulled away. Lamar didn't practice Wednesday. This was the big thing. But then Lamar practiced Thursday. Seems like it's not necessarily a hamstring setback. Might just be like his knee soreness. I feel like Lamar's gonna play and.
- [76:26]
Danny Kale
If Lamar plays, I think he's on track to play.
- [76:27]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, he's a full participant today. I. I just think he's not going to be running as much.
- [76:31]
Danny Heifetz
I think he's not gonna be as running as much. But you still play Lamar, even though the Browns defense, I still think you play Lamar Jackson, the odds of a better quarterback are very low. And Derek Henry, you're still playing. Zay Flowers, you're still playing. Marc Angel Chateau playing. I. That's it for the Ravens. The Browns is like Quinchon Judkins and let's kind of the tight ends fan and joke. It depends. But yeah, I don't think we need to spend a ton of time in this one.
- [76:50]
Craig Korbeck
It's like, I think it's. I think it's Fanon and Judkins are the only people you're thinking about.
- [76:54]
Danny Heifetz
The Niners are at the Cardinals, the other end of the NFC west dk. But is Brock we're going to play this week or what?
- [77:00]
Danny Kale
Unclear at this point. Craig, do you have a read on it?
- [77:03]
Craig Korbeck
No.
- [77:04]
Danny Kale
So Brock Purdy has been limited in practice, but Shanahan has been making it sound like he has a pretty good shot of playing, which might just be a little, you know, subterfuge or whatever. Trying to like keep it on the table. Mac is. Mac Jones is. He's. He's fully practicing. He like, looks like he's pretty healthy for the most part. Obviously he's been banged up all year but. And the other thing is like Mac is playing well. I, I don't know why there would be a rush if Purdy is really not 100 to get him back in there. I guess the one thing I would say that Purdy does a lot better than Mac is he's way more mobile and kind of his ability, you know, I got you guys know I call him the sneaky little like he, he's so good at escaping pressure and making something out of nothing. Picking up first downs when he gets pressured, all that stuff. I don't know how much he's going to be doing that when he's you know, nursing a foot injury or toe injury or whatever he has. But yeah, I think toe. Yeah, I think it's still going to be Mac in this game. I guess that's where I lean. If you look at his numbers, it's going to be very fascinating to see what happens with Jones this off season because he's the type of guy that the, the 49ers could trade in theory because he is under contract for one more year. But he has, he's completed almost 70% of his passes, 13 touchdowns, six picks, is a 97 pass rating which. And he ranks 11th in EPA per drop back, third in success rate. And that's while attempting 36 passes per game which is second most in the NFL. 270 passing yards per game, which is second in the NFL. He's also done two winning, two game winning drives. I mean overall Mac Jones has played better than you could ever expect a backup to play.
- [78:35]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, it's the Shanahan backup quarterback. The Nick Mullins effect.
- [78:38]
Danny Heifetz
Would you guys trade for Mac Jones next year? Feud the Jets. I was having this conversation with someone second. I think, I think the Niners could reasonably ask for a third round pick.
- [78:47]
Craig Korbeck
I don't think I would do a second for Mac Jones.
- [78:49]
Danny Heifetz
Second. Nobody.
- [78:50]
Danny Kale
That would be steep. Yeah, you're right.
- [78:51]
Danny Heifetz
I would ask for. But if you're the Jets, I actually would give up a third round pick.
- [78:55]
Craig Korbeck
Do you think it's more likely that the jets draft a guy or just, just have a bridge quarterback?
- [79:00]
Danny Heifetz
I'd rather give up a third and just see if Mac Jones is good. Then draft someone you don't believe in. It depends on the class. But the class is weird. Like we don't know it's going to be.
- [79:07]
Danny Kale
Yeah, we don't know enough about the class yet.
- [79:09]
Danny Heifetz
I feel like of the eight or ten best eligible quarterbacks. Almost all of them might go back to school. So if that's the case, I'd rather just pay a third and like, you know, not.
- [79:18]
Danny Kale
Plus you look around the league and see how many teams are doing it with these. Not retread is like probably too strong of a word, but that's better in guys that have been. That have been on a couple different.
- [79:27]
Craig Korbeck
Hand me down.
- [79:28]
Danny Heifetz
Retread is fine. The Carolina Panthers took Baker Mayfield in a salary dump and then cut him.
- [79:32]
Danny Kale
The Carolina obviously, like Darnold Mayfield, Gino to an extent. Obviously with the Seahawks, he was a retread and he ended up being pretty good for them. You see it all the time now. And I think it's not just a trend. It's like actually logical. These guys just have more experience now and they're going to be able to play with a higher floor because they understand how defenses work, they understand how to be a pro. They just understand how to deal with all the pressures of being a quarterback. They can talk the language. All that stuff actually really does matter. So it's not just like sort of. I don't think it's random is what I'm saying. I think this will be a thing that happens in the NFL a lot more.
- [80:12]
Danny Heifetz
Anything else on these other games here?
- [80:15]
Danny Kale
As for the Cardinals, hold on. Marvin Harrison. Yeah, he. He's out with an appendicitis. He or he got in his appendix. Taken out. I mean, just a nightmare.
- [80:28]
Craig Korbeck
Kind of feels like, like that just like wouldn't happen to Jamar Chase. I can't explain it, but I was like, he just. That wouldn't happen.
- [80:36]
Danny Kale
I saw some stat or not stat, some factoid that if you're gonna go work at the North Pole or the South Pole, I can't remember which one it was. South Pole, probably. You have to have neither your appendix nor your wisdom teeth.
- [80:50]
Craig Korbeck
There can be no emergency.
- [80:52]
Danny Kale
You can't have an emergency surgery because they cannot get people there in the winter.
- [80:56]
Craig Korbeck
It's funny.
- [80:57]
Danny Heifetz
So, like, if you're going to draft.
- [80:59]
Danny Kale
A big time receiver, you can't have any wisdom teeth or your appendix.
- [81:03]
Danny Heifetz
We should ask guys that at the com. Get your bed.
- [81:06]
Danny Kale
Are you in possession of your appendix still?
- [81:09]
Craig Korbeck
So they have to like proactively remove their appendix?
- [81:12]
Danny Kale
I think more like they only accept people that have gotten their appendix.
- [81:16]
Craig Korbeck
That's not a lot of people. I know.
- [81:18]
Danny Heifetz
It's like a very.
- [81:19]
Danny Kale
Maybe they have proactive.
- [81:21]
Danny Heifetz
I don't know. So they just. Are you sure this is true?
- [81:24]
Danny Kale
No, I'm not okay.
- [81:27]
Craig Korbeck
I'm like, damn, that really limits their pool of applicants.
- [81:29]
Danny Kale
You guys talk. I'm gonna look it up.
- [81:31]
Craig Korbeck
You have to be like, have suffered from appendicit.
- [81:34]
Danny Kale
I mean, it makes sense if you think about it.
- [81:36]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Or they just bring a couple surgeons down there.
- [81:39]
Danny Kale
They don't have surgeons growing on trees, you know, Craig.
- [81:42]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, I guess that's true.
- [81:44]
Danny Heifetz
I don't think a surgeon's enough. You also need like a. Like a room to do that. You need like a way to do surgery.
- [81:50]
Craig Korbeck
I feel like they could get a room here.
- [81:52]
Danny Kale
Here's the AI.
- [81:53]
Craig Korbeck
A lot of space.
- [81:53]
Danny Kale
Here's the AI Answer, Craig. Tourists do not need to have their appendix or wisdom teeth removed to visit Antarctica. But personnel overwintering or working at restate research stations may be required to under. They may be required to get the surgeries beforehand.
- [82:07]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, they may be required.
- [82:09]
Danny Heifetz
I've never needed the email more. If anyone here has ever worked in Antarctica and got let us know the policies on getting your wisdom. Wisdom teeth. Makes sense. Getting an appendectomy is pretty preemptively because you're going to go work in an.
- [82:21]
Craig Korbeck
Article like is that. Is that. Is there anything wrong about doing that when your body's not telling you it needs to be done?
- [82:28]
Danny Heifetz
I don't know, but I feel like they might let you sign a waiver that's like if you get an. If you have appendicitis and die in. South.
- [82:34]
Craig Korbeck
In.
- [82:34]
Danny Kale
South.
- [82:34]
Danny Heifetz
In Antarctica, then, like, that's on you. Maybe you could sign that. Please. Anyone who knows the laws of Antarctica. Honestly, I want to know that. What are the other rules about Antarctica? I want to know everything about this or other surgeries you need to do jobs, whatever. Emails at Rear Fantasy Football.
- [82:47]
Danny Kale
I'm reading. I'm looking at a BBC article right now that says the. It's called the Icy Village where you must remove your appendix.
- [82:54]
Danny Heifetz
Yo. What BBC?
- [82:56]
Danny Kale
Yeah, there's a settlement. Says there's a settlement in Antarctica with a school, post office and a huddle of homes.
- [83:01]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, my God.
- [83:02]
Danny Kale
Yeah, you have to have surgery to move in. Wow.
- [83:07]
Danny Heifetz
Wow.
- [83:08]
Craig Korbeck
And. And that's only for people who are.
- [83:10]
Danny Kale
Working down and living there. Overwintering there. Right. Not.
- [83:13]
Danny Heifetz
Not to like the closest hospital. 620.
- [83:17]
Craig Korbeck
Hey. Better be good past the tape. They better be pretty good.
- [83:20]
Danny Heifetz
King George Island. Wow. Maybe.
- [83:23]
Danny Kale
Anyway, so that factoid was right.
- [83:25]
Danny Heifetz
That's crazy. Well done, dk. I still want the eels on Antarctica, though.
- [83:28]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [83:29]
Danny Heifetz
Okay. Monday football. The Cowboys are at Las Vegas Raiders. I. All the Cowboys. You know to play the Raiders. I mean, you can play all them because the Cowboys defense is bad. Honestly, I don't. There's not that much analysis in this game. Like, this is the first game the Cowboys going to play since Marshawn Nealon passed. It will be very emotional. Yeah, I don't think that's worth, like, kind of getting into the game.
- [83:51]
Craig Korbeck
I think the game itself has a chance of being. I think, like, you know, Cowboys defense, Raiders offense, with Brock Bowers back, like, it might be an entertaining game from an offensive perspective.
- [84:00]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I think. I think the broadcast. It'll be very, very emotional. Like, I think it's gonna be. We didn't mention this, but the. Brian Schottenheimer, the coach Cowboys has said that Marshall Nealon's girlfriend is pregnant, which is just like. Yeah, I didn't think the story made it worse, but yeah. So, man.
- [84:19]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. And the. The Disney YouTube dispute is still going on, so a lot of people might not even be able to watch this game.
- [84:24]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, it's pretty wild. All right, Ringer 107. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by FanDuel. Again, we're doing this contest. We're competing with all the other shows here at the network. What's so funny, Craig?
- [84:36]
Craig Korbeck
We're in first. That's what's funny.
- [84:37]
Danny Heifetz
We're in f. We are in first. We are in first. So I get big heads now. Big heads.
- [84:41]
Danny Kale
Now we're in first with a bullet. So this is the week we ruin it.
- [84:49]
Danny Heifetz
I feel like this is ruin it.
- [84:51]
Craig Korbeck
What do you mean? We went one in four two weeks ago. We. We're just gonna do it. Who cares?
- [84:56]
Danny Kale
Last week.
- [84:57]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [84:57]
Danny Kale
So yeah, it's money right now, Craig.
- [85:00]
Craig Korbeck
Who cares? There's no prize.
- [85:02]
Danny Heifetz
Let's be cocky.
- [85:03]
Danny Kale
That's.
- [85:04]
Craig Korbeck
I'm like, I'm trying to completely change my, like, how I think about sports fandom. I'm like, you know what? It's actually more fun to just be cocky and then lose.
- [85:11]
Danny Heifetz
This is true fantasy too. I've written some. I told you guys. I mentioned this a lot, that I was radicalized because DK is co commissioner of a dynasty league. We are where I won. And the DK just earnestly asked me, like, who won this year? And I was like, me. And that just literally that moment changed how I feel about shit talk. And I'm like, no one remembers you unless you shit talk.
- [85:29]
Danny Kale
No, I actually completely agree with you. And now I'm actually pro shit talking because I truly. And this is something that happens in all my leagues. It's not just that league high, Fitz.
- [85:39]
Craig Korbeck
Once.
- [85:39]
Danny Kale
Once you're out, you're like, I don't.
- [85:40]
Danny Heifetz
Pay attention to the only person who knows who. Who won is the person who lost. Lost to the person who won.
- [85:46]
Craig Korbeck
And everyone else, you gotta remind these.
- [85:48]
Danny Heifetz
It's true. You gotta let them know.
- [85:49]
Craig Korbeck
So, yeah, I'm like, who cares? We're gonna take all these people down.
- [85:52]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah. So, yeah, we're gonna win anyway. So there are three games that caught my eye in particular. I can be talked into a lot this week.
- [85:57]
Craig Korbeck
Okay.
- [85:58]
Danny Heifetz
Ones that caught my eye, like, don't overthink this. I just want to do it. Lions getting points versus the Eagles.
- [86:05]
Craig Korbeck
I agree with that written down.
- [86:08]
Danny Heifetz
They can lose whatever happens. Lions getting points.
- [86:11]
Craig Korbeck
I'm like, I feel like the Lions are going to score at least 24 points, and if the Eagles score 27 and we lose, I'm okay with that. I was wrong. Good job, Kevin.
- [86:20]
Danny Kale
Put down swinging.
- [86:21]
Danny Heifetz
I just. The idea that the Lions can lose this game and we could still win just. I just think that's very easy. So the other one I want to just throw out is Ravens giving seven and a half to the Browns. I just feel like it's not high enough because Lamar's banged up, but he's going to play it. I just. That seems fine to me.
- [86:40]
Craig Korbeck
Is there weather in this game? This game's in Cleveland.
- [86:42]
Danny Heifetz
Sure. I. It's 40. It was 41 to seven last time they played. I'm like, it's seven and a half.
- [86:47]
Craig Korbeck
I know this game. It's going to be cold. 44 degrees, I think.
- [86:50]
Danny Kale
To your point, though, Hive, it's like the. The Ravens defense has been playing pretty well lately. Really well. And Gabriel is. I mean, he's not the answer, clearly, for them. He's. He's a placeholder. And so.
- [87:03]
Danny Heifetz
So it's 41:17 the last time they played, but I just. I just. I know the Brunswick is good, but I. Again, Lamar Jackson versus Dylan Gabriel, and it's seven and a half. That's fine. Yeah. I'm not going to force you guys to do it, but that certainly, like, against it.
- [87:17]
Danny Kale
45 degrees in Cleveland on Sunday.
- [87:19]
Craig Korbeck
I have no problem with it either. I'm generally very into hitting the Ravens every single week.
- [87:23]
Danny Heifetz
What else? Anything catch your eye, Craig?
- [87:27]
Craig Korbeck
I gotta be honest. Like, Bengals plus five and a half. I. I have been staring at it.
- [87:31]
Danny Kale
I wrote that down.
- [87:33]
Craig Korbeck
This game's in Pittsburgh. I don't know.
- [87:34]
Danny Heifetz
Austin says 20 to 30 mile an hour winds In Cleveland, I kind of don't care.
- [87:40]
Danny Kale
I know Cleveland's weather. That seems like a fucking storm.
- [87:46]
Craig Korbeck
No, no, I, I don't mind it, but I. I do fear that. Remember the first time they played, the first half, it was like really close and then they took off.
- [87:53]
Danny Kale
But, yeah, that's kind of the story.
- [87:54]
Danny Heifetz
Sorry, Craig, what else are you saying?
- [87:56]
Craig Korbeck
I was saying the Bengals plus five and a half versus my Steelers, I'm kind of like, I don't know. They could win that game outright and I wouldn't be surprised.
- [88:03]
Danny Heifetz
I was wondering that too, because are the Steelers going to win by a lot?
- [88:07]
Craig Korbeck
I know, I'm like, do they win by a lot against anybody? Six. It's six turnovers against the Colts. They won by seven.
- [88:13]
Danny Heifetz
I'm like, I know.
- [88:14]
Danny Kale
The thing about the Steelers for me is they're probably going to come out, are built to play from ahead. If they get behind, I feel like they have a hard time coming back because their offense is just not good enough. Is that. Does that. Is that right to you or is that just. Does that feel right to you?
- [88:30]
Craig Korbeck
I mean, to be honest, I don't feel like their offense is built for any scenario.
- [88:37]
Danny Kale
They don't play well in front or behind.
- [88:39]
Craig Korbeck
They can't run the ball. So it's like. I don't know.
- [88:42]
Danny Kale
Okay, maybe that's your answer.
- [88:43]
Craig Korbeck
You know, their office is really good. When they get a turnover and they're already in their enemy territory, that's when.
- [88:47]
Danny Kale
Their offense is really good. When.
- [88:49]
Craig Korbeck
If you. If you start in the red zone, they're pretty good.
- [88:52]
Danny Kale
Yeah. All right, so do you want to take the Bengals then?
- [88:56]
Craig Korbeck
I kind of maybe do.
- [88:58]
Danny Kale
Okay. Okay. I have the 49ers minus three written down.
- [89:01]
Craig Korbeck
I like the Falcons minus three and a half at home against the Panthers.
- [89:04]
Danny Heifetz
I think that's smart. I think that's smart. I know it's a lot of points Penix hasn't played. The problem is they're flying from what they're playing from Germany to Atlanta. But it's weird because Pennix didn't play well last week. But also the. Cole Stevens is better than Carolinas. I know. I'm a little torn, but Bryce Young's been bad.
- [89:21]
Craig Korbeck
Bryce Young's been really bad.
- [89:22]
Danny Heifetz
Like, the Falcons defense kind of roughed up the Colts a little bit. I know Jonathan Taylor got to him at the end, but, like, I. I.
- [89:27]
Danny Kale
Kind of agree with you. I like the Falcon. I think that's a good one.
- [89:29]
Danny Heifetz
It's so funny to be like this team that lost 30 to nothing this week is going to lay points. We're going to take.
- [89:34]
Danny Kale
Right, Right.
- [89:35]
Danny Heifetz
But we're gonna.
- [89:35]
Craig Korbeck
Well, they didn't lose third. They lost 30 to nothing in week three.
- [89:38]
Danny Heifetz
I know. The rematch. We're like, we think that the zero team is gonna win and we're gonna, they're, they're gonna be the favored is just, it's just funny.
- [89:45]
Danny Kale
But, like, that was.
- [89:45]
Craig Korbeck
They were in a close game against the Colts. I don't know.
- [89:47]
Danny Heifetz
I know. No, I, I, I, I think it's, I'm not, I'm not disagreeing. I think it's just funny that we all. No. 1. I think what's funny is none of us have an issue.
- [89:54]
Danny Kale
Do you guys want to.
- [89:55]
Danny Heifetz
No one bats an eye at the team that lost 30 to nothing to this team.
- [89:58]
Danny Kale
Right. Do you want to get real spicy and take the Dolphins minus two and a half.
- [90:02]
Craig Korbeck
No, we can't go international. Dk.
- [90:03]
Danny Heifetz
No, Never international.
- [90:04]
Craig Korbeck
No, we can't.
- [90:05]
Danny Heifetz
Can I throw something out?
- [90:06]
Craig Korbeck
I like where your head's at, but we can't go overseas.
- [90:09]
Danny Heifetz
The fifth, the fifth game of each week, we're allowed to do like a. More like a parlay, basically, Right?
- [90:14]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [90:15]
Craig Korbeck
We don't really ever do anything.
- [90:16]
Danny Heifetz
Can I throw it out?
- [90:17]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, once.
- [90:19]
Danny Kale
And we got it.
- [90:20]
Danny Heifetz
Ravens to beat Cleveland.
- [90:22]
Craig Korbeck
Okay.
- [90:23]
Danny Heifetz
Parlayed with. We could do an alternate spread here where. Because the rule is it has to be minus 120 or lower.
- [90:30]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [90:30]
Danny Heifetz
Which I won't explain all the gambling stuff, but that's the deal. Lions getting five and a half points and the Ravens to win the game is minus 118, which qualifies.
- [90:40]
Danny Kale
Okay, but then you're taking away two of our winners.
- [90:43]
Danny Heifetz
Can we. Oh, can we not double dip?
- [90:46]
Danny Kale
I don't know.
- [90:46]
Craig Korbeck
Remember, we want, we wanted to try where we, like, just take alternate spreads in the same game five times.
- [90:52]
Danny Kale
What would we, what would we have gone? 0 and 5 in that one? I can't remember. Did we win that or lose?
- [90:56]
Craig Korbeck
What did we want to do last week?
- [90:57]
Danny Heifetz
We wanted to do Eagles money. Eagles. We want to do the Eagle spread. The Eagles money line. The Eagles giving a point. Eagles giving two points. Evil's giving three. So we would have gone like three and two or something.
- [91:08]
Danny Kale
I think high. Fitz. I like where your head's at, but I don't want to have to find two more teams to win.
- [91:12]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, I just realized that. Oh, so we can't do Lions and then also put them in a parlay. I guess I didn't realize that.
- [91:17]
Danny Kale
Right.
- [91:17]
Craig Korbeck
Is that Right. I guess so.
- [91:18]
Danny Kale
You said Ravens, too, and I think we were taking the Ravens.
- [91:20]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, we were.
- [91:21]
Danny Heifetz
No, but I'm saying I thought you could just do both, but I guess you can't.
- [91:24]
Craig Korbeck
There's not a lot of heavy spreads this week. There's not a lot of, like, blowout.
- [91:29]
Danny Heifetz
Well, then other stuff. So the other things that occur to me, the Bucks getting five and a half points, just taking Baker Mayfield on principle. He hasn't. He's been a little banged up. Baker, some of the magic come off, but Bucks are a little healthier. Bills are banged up. Part of me, it's a little scary to go into Josh Allen, but the idea that Baker getting five and a half points even when it seemed like a bad idea, like, it's kind of. It's kind of worked.
- [91:50]
Craig Korbeck
I don't know.
- [91:51]
Danny Kale
Yeah, I'm wishy washy on that one. What do you think about. Do you think about Giants plus seven?
- [91:57]
Danny Heifetz
No.
- [91:58]
Danny Kale
At home with James Jameis.
- [92:02]
Danny Heifetz
Man pack. Dude. You know what's funny? That's gonna work.
- [92:05]
Danny Kale
That one seems pretty.
- [92:06]
Danny Heifetz
You know, I can see that happening now, but it's. Man, James gonna throw a pick.
- [92:10]
Craig Korbeck
Wow.
- [92:11]
Danny Kale
Craig, what else are you on?
- [92:12]
Danny Heifetz
Wait, I'm kind of. Kind of into that.
- [92:13]
Danny Kale
Chargers minus three over the Jags.
- [92:16]
Craig Korbeck
I don't know. I think there's. I. I can't prove this, but I feel like every time the Chargers have to fly to Florida, it's a mess.
- [92:23]
Danny Heifetz
Do we have to do. Do we like Bengals plus five and a half? Falcons giving.
- [92:27]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, Yeah.
- [92:28]
Danny Heifetz
I think.
- [92:28]
Craig Korbeck
I think right now we have here. I think we have the Lions, the Ravens, the Falcons and the Bengals. Right.
- [92:33]
Danny Heifetz
Lions, Ravens, Falcon. We're going to do Falcons, Bengals. Is it bad that part of me just thinks Jameis+7 is a good idea?
- [92:41]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, that.
- [92:42]
Danny Kale
What do you like more? Do you like the 49ers minus three over the Cardinals or Jameis covering at home? Jamis. Dude, it's gonna have like four turnovers. This is dumb.
- [92:55]
Craig Korbeck
I know. And the Cardinals are also always play the Niners well.
- [92:58]
Danny Kale
Oh, I was talking about.
- [92:59]
Danny Heifetz
Should we take the Seahawks, Rams. Should we stick to Seahawks getting three? Just the Seahawks in the points.
- [93:06]
Danny Kale
That one feels like a stay away to me.
- [93:07]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, I know it's close.
- [93:09]
Danny Kale
Two really good teams.
- [93:10]
Craig Korbeck
I kind of don't hate that. It also gives us a fun, like, vested interest in the game. We can be angry at it.
- [93:16]
Danny Kale
I already have a vested interest in this game.
- [93:18]
Danny Heifetz
He doesn't want it. Wow, this is a tough. Oh, wait, wait, hold on. Wait. Wait, you're not going to like this. We should take the Texans giving six and a half points, which is a lot of points for the Texans. Delay. I know we don't like this offense. Davis Mills.
- [93:31]
Danny Kale
Jargon, jargon, jargon.
- [93:33]
Danny Heifetz
The Texas.
- [93:34]
Craig Korbeck
The Texans.
- [93:36]
Danny Heifetz
Texans to win by touchdown. Seven points.
- [93:38]
Danny Kale
Jargon jar.
- [93:39]
Danny Heifetz
Six and a half. And so I just kind of think betting against the Titans is usually the right idea. And yeah, they 26 to nothing last time.
- [93:47]
Danny Kale
Davis Mills.
- [93:48]
Danny Heifetz
I know it's Davis Mills and it's like a little insane, but part of me is like the Titans, this is.
- [93:51]
Danny Kale
The Texans defense is insanely good.
- [93:54]
Danny Heifetz
They literally. The Texans shut the Titans out. Do you know hard it is to have an NFL team score zero points?
- [94:00]
Craig Korbeck
Like, should we take Denver plus three and a half?
- [94:04]
Danny Heifetz
I, you know, you just don't think Texans. I think. I think Texans because you know why? It's how many points the Titans can score 14 points in this game. That feels, I feel like the Titans might have single digit points again.
- [94:14]
Craig Korbeck
You don't think, you don't think this game could be 1714. Davis Mills wins and we lose the bet?
- [94:18]
Danny Heifetz
Of course it could. But I just like, like it's the. It's an elite unit versus the worst unit in the NFL and so it has like the Texans offense has to turn it over for.
- [94:27]
Danny Kale
I feel like Craig desperately wants to bet on the Broncos.
- [94:30]
Danny Heifetz
You want it?
- [94:31]
Craig Korbeck
I just feel like it's so contrarian and everyone's gonna be on D.C. i have no feel. I have no feel for game five. I'll let somebody take the wheel.
- [94:37]
Danny Heifetz
I.
- [94:38]
Danny Kale
Man, let's do that. Let's do the Texans.
- [94:41]
Craig Korbeck
You want to do Houston?
- [94:43]
Danny Heifetz
Craig wants to go. I could see it. I could feel it.
- [94:46]
Craig Korbeck
I don't want to bet against my homes.
- [94:49]
Danny Heifetz
Well, Bahomes, though, wins games he doesn't have to win by three and a half.
- [94:53]
Craig Korbeck
No, I know, but then that's. That's a dicey middle. You're trying to pray for a field goal or less.
- [94:58]
Danny Kale
Okay, well, here's what. Here's one more. This is taking forever, but what about the Bears plus two and a half?
- [95:06]
Craig Korbeck
I thought about that. I don't hate it. J.J. mcCarthy's like, not that good.
- [95:10]
Danny Heifetz
Let's reassess here. We've locked in on Lions. We're locked in on Ravens giving seven half. Are we locked in on the Falcons giving three to the or, sorry. Favored by three to the Panthers. We're locked in on that.
- [95:20]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [95:20]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [95:21]
Danny Heifetz
Are we locked in on Bengals losing by five and a Half or less.
- [95:25]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Who cares?
- [95:26]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [95:27]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, my God. Wow. It's concerning.
- [95:32]
Craig Korbeck
So you want to do Houston? Let's just see Houston. That's fine. If. If I lose because the Titans are good, then I can sleep at night with that.
- [95:39]
Danny Heifetz
You sure? Not Denver.
- [95:41]
Craig Korbeck
If. If I have to lose because Patrick Mahomes was awesome, that'll be harder to fall asleep.
- [95:45]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [95:48]
Craig Korbeck
But my spidey senses think that game will be close.
- [95:51]
Danny Heifetz
Dk, you want me. You want to go with Craig's spidey senses?
- [95:56]
Danny Kale
No.
- [95:57]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, okay. All right, then. Houston minus six and a half. That is.
- [96:00]
Danny Kale
That's. If Craig was. If Craig had more confidence, then I would go with you on this one. You're a little wishy washy.
- [96:08]
Danny Heifetz
Okay, so we're doing plus, you're convincing.
- [96:09]
Danny Kale
Yourself with the Mahomes thing, and I don't want to be part of that.
- [96:11]
Danny Heifetz
So doing Lions, Ravens, Falcons, Bengals. Houston.
- [96:14]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [96:14]
Danny Heifetz
It's hilarious. Okay. All right.
- [96:17]
Danny Kale
I love betting on Davis Mills.
- [96:20]
Danny Heifetz
Wait. Yeah. That's the rule. We have to look at the quarterbacks one last time. Jared Goff, Lamar Jackson, Michael Pennix, Joe Flacco, Davis Mills.
- [96:27]
Craig Korbeck
Not the best QB lineup.
- [96:29]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, man. Oh, dude. Should we just take the. I can't.
- [96:33]
Craig Korbeck
We're gonna bet on boot and rally bow.
- [96:35]
Danny Heifetz
Should we just bet on the chart on Herbert to beat Lawrence?
- [96:39]
Craig Korbeck
No, no, no. I don't think so.
- [96:42]
Danny Kale
Both of those teams are so weird.
- [96:44]
Craig Korbeck
I have no. I don't feel good about that game. I don't feel good about the Chargers in Jacksonville. Herbert's hurt. I'm just like, it's gonna be a weird game.
- [96:53]
Danny Heifetz
Wow. Okay.
- [96:54]
Danny Kale
Okay.
- [96:57]
Danny Heifetz
All right.
- [96:57]
Danny Kale
I feel like we're there. We've arrived.
- [96:58]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah. All right, fine. Today's Ringer 107 is brought to you by Fandel. Odd subject to change. So are our minds. Clearly. Okay. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Ronnie. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone, for listening. Emails are ringer Fantasy football, gmail dot com. I still want to know more about Antarctica. We jobs just get surgeries for or whatever weird requirements. Other what happens. Surgeons or doctors, whatever. Tell us about the appendix, but also tell us about how Jay Daniel's elbow is like. What's wrong with it? I don't get it.
- [97:27]
Craig Korbeck
If anything.
- [97:28]
Danny Heifetz
Is it fine?
- [97:29]
Craig Korbeck
Is he taking it?
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Danny Kale
Yeah.
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Danny Heifetz
Thank you, Lord.
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Craig Korbeck
Lord.
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Danny Kale
Thank you, Foreigner.
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Craig Korbeck
Oh, yeah.
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Danny Kale
They had some bangers.
- [97:38]
Danny Heifetz
I don't know. Yeah, dude, what are the bangers? I want to know what love is. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah.
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Craig Korbeck
Doesn't Foreigner Do Feels like the First Time.
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Danny Kale
That sounds right.
- [97:48]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, so they're like. Actually. Okay, so this is not.
- [97:51]
Danny Kale
They have some, like, anthems, if that's what they're called. I want to know what love is. Cold as ice.
- [97:57]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, that sounds sick.
- [98:00]
Danny Heifetz
What is there. There's a movie where. That's a phenomenal.
- [98:02]
Danny Kale
Jukebox hero.
- [98:03]
Craig Korbeck
Jukebox hero that week.
- [98:07]
Danny Heifetz
This is all the same.
- [98:07]
Danny Kale
Feels like the First Time.
- [98:09]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, that is Foreigner, right?
- [98:10]
Danny Kale
Yes.
- [98:11]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Banger of a song.
- [98:12]
Danny Kale
Waiting for a girl like you.
- [98:14]
Craig Korbeck
First time. Wow.
- [98:16]
Danny Kale
Yeah. They have some good ones.
- [98:18]
Danny Heifetz
Damn.
- [98:18]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Foreigner.
- [98:19]
Danny Heifetz
Banks. I might have to listen to them. This is a blind spot for me. I didn't realize these are all the same people.
- [98:23]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. Cold as Ice. Great song.
- [98:25]
Danny Heifetz
Cold as Ice has, like a. Like a.
- [98:28]
Craig Korbeck
Is that, like, heavy, like, rock piano? The rock piano really plays when. Oh, Van Halen does that.
- [98:35]
Danny Heifetz
Cold as Ice. I might embarrass myself right now, but maybe. What else is new? I always just, in my head, just thought that was, like, a Freddie Mercury song because it kind of sounds like Freddie Mercury singing it. You know what I mean?
- [98:45]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, that's fine. That's all right. Maybe not gonna kill you for that, but it's that.
- [98:50]
Danny Heifetz
Yes, that song sounds. It's just. It's a great song.
- [98:54]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
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Danny Kale
As Cold as Ice.
- [98:56]
Danny Heifetz
That's how it goes. Just like that.
- [98:58]
Danny Kale
Willing to sacrifice Foreign. Let's see if it was written by. Oh, no, it was written by the band. Not Freddie.
- [99:06]
Craig Korbeck
By the band or the band?
- [99:08]
Danny Kale
No, no, by Foreigner.
- [99:10]
Craig Korbeck
Okay.
- [99:10]
Danny Kale
By. By Lou Graham and Mick Jones, specifically.
- [99:14]
Craig Korbeck
Do you guys think it's cool that the band titled the band, named themselves the band?
- [99:18]
Danny Kale
No, no.
- [99:19]
Danny Heifetz
That was a terrible idea.
- [99:21]
Danny Kale
It's like trying to name your podcast the Dantasy Football.
- [99:23]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah, it was. Yeah. We literally did that. It was a terrible idea.
- [99:26]
Craig Korbeck
Well, they're really successful.
- [99:28]
Danny Heifetz
Are they?
- [99:29]
Craig Korbeck
The band was, yeah. Successful band.
- [99:32]
Danny Heifetz
I don't really know what you talking about.
- [99:33]
Danny Kale
Are they. Are they the one that's, like, pulled in the. Nazareth.
- [99:37]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah. The Weight, 1967.
- [99:41]
Danny Heifetz
Like, no one had taken anything yet. This is the thing. We were so right, like, the names.
- [99:45]
Danny Kale
It was so early.
- [99:46]
Danny Heifetz
So much easier to name a band when. No, you sing about stuff. No one had done anything yet.
- [99:51]
Craig Korbeck
But isn't that an argument for why they shouldn't have been named the band? Because they could have picked any other name.
- [99:55]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah. They thought there were no more ideas, and then we had 50 more years.
- [99:59]
Danny Kale
Were they being, like, ironic when they named it that? Kind of.
- [100:01]
Craig Korbeck
I think.
- [100:02]
Danny Kale
Yeah. Yeah.
- [100:02]
Danny Heifetz
Also, you Know why? It's because there was no SEO. They never could have done that now.
- [100:05]
Danny Kale
Because then the Internet wasn't even around.
- [100:07]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [100:09]
Craig Korbeck
I put under Nazareth.
- [100:12]
Danny Kale
That's a ripping that around about 10. I don't know the words.
- [100:18]
Danny Heifetz
One second song challenge again. Yeah, we should that. That could be another version of it. Lyrics again. Know anything about the songs but you know the next words?
- [100:28]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah, that's good.
- [100:29]
Danny Heifetz
Like pull it out and like I don't know who that is but it's like there's a lot of songs. I feel like I don't know who the is singing this, but I can sing the next three lines, which is funny.
- [100:36]
Danny Kale
Feeling about half past dead. I thought he said 10.
- [100:41]
Craig Korbeck
I just need a place where I can raise my head.
- [100:46]
Danny Kale
Hey, mister, can you tell me one.
- [100:48]
Danny Heifetz
Of these guys names is Rick Danko?
- [100:51]
Danny Kale
Hell yeah.
- [100:52]
Craig Korbeck
Oh, in the band.
- [100:53]
Danny Heifetz
Rick Danko.
- [100:54]
Craig Korbeck
He's got Rob lyrics.
- [100:57]
Danny Heifetz
Robbie Roberts. Well, like American gangster.
- [100:59]
Craig Korbeck
Robbie Robertson's in the band. And then Dylan. They. I. I don't know if Dylan was in the band, but there was some association. Bob Dylan? Yeah.
- [101:09]
Danny Heifetz
Oh, yeah.
- [101:09]
Craig Korbeck
It's hard.
- [101:10]
Danny Heifetz
Wow. With pop Dylan.
- [101:11]
Craig Korbeck
Yeah.
- [101:12]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [101:12]
Danny Heifetz
They were his backup band for his Electric Tour. I didn't realize Bob Dylan had this like never ending tour that he says is not never ending, but the fans call Never ending tour. Yeah, I just learned about that.
- [101:23]
Craig Korbeck
Did you see the movie? The Chalamet movie?
- [101:25]
Danny Heifetz
I missed it.
- [101:26]
Craig Korbeck
Ah, it was good. I recommend it.
- [101:28]
Danny Heifetz
I should watch it.
- [101:29]
Craig Korbeck
It's better than The Bruce Springsteen 1 and 4. Did your mom ever see the Springsteen movie?
- [101:33]
Danny Heifetz
We're gonna check in.
- [101:35]
Craig Korbeck
Okay. I'm curious her thoughts.
- [101:38]
Danny Heifetz
Yeah.
- [101:40]
Danny Kale
All right. His mom loves Bruce Springsteen, by the way. Craig doesn't just check in on if it's his mom.
- [101:45]
Danny Heifetz
26, 27. All right. Is that it?
- [101:52]
Danny Kale
Yeah.
- [101:53]
Danny Heifetz
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