Week 12 Waivers, Penix Out, Rodgers’s Wrist, and Rex’s Socks

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show — Week 12 Waivers, Penix Out, Rodgers’s Wrist, and Rex’s Socks

Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Date: November 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into the Week 12 fantasy football waiver wire, with the guys navigating a minefield of quarterback injuries, uncertain backfields, and wavering playoff hopes. Heifetz, Kelly, and Horlbeck break down must-add players, discuss which "old guys" may still have juice, and sprinkle in classic Ringer banter—complete with trivia, running gags about names, and a surprising number of sock-related facts. The show’s tone is humorous, self-aware, and fast-talking as always.

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Major Topics & Key Points

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1. Quarterback Injury Chaos & Fallout

(01:30–12:54)

• Michael Penix Jr. (Falcons):

  • Penix Jr. is placed on IR with a possibly season-ending left knee injury.
  • Danny Kelly: "Michael Penix is a guy going into his third season... he's going to be 26 years old on his second, possibly third ACL injury." (03:00)
  • Falcons' front office is criticized for investing both a top-10 pick and $100 million in Kirk Cousins, as the team sits at 3-7 with a bleak outlook.
  • Craig Horlbeck: “I’m worried about this offense in general. Cousins does not move very well. They don't have a lot of weapons outside of Bijan Robinson.” (05:53)

• Drake London (Falcons):

  • Now dealing with PCL injury — saps his "jump ball" dominance.

• Kirk Cousins (Falcons):

  • Doesn’t look fully healthy; concerns about the rest of season fantasy value.

• Aaron Rodgers (Steelers):

  • “Slight break” in non-throwing wrist. Rogers is “pushing to play” against the Bears, though Mason Rudolph is the fallback.
  • Craig Horlbeck: “I still want Rodgers! Convincing ourselves that Mason Rudolph is the answer... we've seen him for long enough.” (07:29)

• Other QB News:

  • CJ Stroud (Texans): Still in concussion protocol—likely out for Thursday vs. Bills.
  • Justin Fields (Jets): Benched, “official death of Justin Fields as a starter.” (09:46)
    • Danny Kelly: “He was the single worst passer this year. It wasn’t even close.” (10:29)

• Other injuries & updates:

  • Jackson Dart, Giants – still in concussion protocol, risk to his rushing upside.
  • Jordan Love (Packers) – Left game with shoulder, returned.
  • Bye weeks: Dolphins, Chargers, Washington, Denver. (13:19)

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2. Week 12 Waiver Wire: Running Backs

(13:44–26:13)

• Top Suggestions (contingent on injury updates):

  • Kenneth Gainwell (Steelers):

    • Top add if Jaylen Warren is out. Flex appeal, goal line work, strong in passing game.
    • Danny Kelly: "Even when he was on the Eagles, he got a weird amount of goal line work." (18:10)

  • Emmanuel Wilson (Packers):

    • Lead back if Josh Jacobs (knee) is out, but Packers have a tough schedule upcoming.
    • Trivia: Wilson played at Johnson C. Smith and Fort Valley State. (18:39)

  • Sean Tucker (Buccaneers):

    • 140 scrimmage yards & 3 TDs, but role may diminish if Bucky Irving returns.

  • Bashel Tootin (Jaguars):

    • Intriguing if healthy, tweaked ankle.

  • Long-term/deep options:

    • Bam Knight (Cardinals), Chris Rodriguez Jr. (Washington), Jalil McLaughlin (Broncos), Devin Singletary (Giants).
    • Tyler Algier (Falcons): Still big goal-line upside, contingent on Bijan health.

• Important Quote:

  • Danny Hyperthen: "This week it's really dependent on who gets healthy news tomorrow. Decide Tuesday night, not Monday." (17:32)

• Consensus:

  • For Week 12 only: Kenneth Gainwell over Emmanuel Wilson and Sean Tucker.

• Timestamps:

  • (13:44) Running backs intro
  • (14:40) DK’s top pick
  • (16:41–17:32) Discussion of news dependency
  • (18:10–20:34) Ranking, college trivia

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3. Week 12 Waiver Wire: Wide Receivers

(26:13–38:14)

• Top Add if Available: Alec Pierce (Colts)

• Main Picks:

  • Christian Watson (Packers): Big play, boom/bust, elevated targets with injuries.

    • Danny Kelly: “He's a difference maker down the field...and their explosive play guy.” (28:26)

  • Michael Wilson (Cardinals): Monster 15-catch, 185-yard game, volatile, more actionable if Marvin Harrison Jr. remains out.

  • Luther Burden (Bears): New slot guy, high talent, could see more work.

  • Deeper/Sicko League Adds:

    • Andre Yosivas (Bengals): Steps up if Jamar Chase's suspension holds.
    • David Sills (Falcons): Deepest cut, suggested rapport with Kirk Cousins due to locker assignment.
      • Danny Kelly: “I just think if [Cousins] is going to complete any passes, it’s going to be to David Sills…” (36:31)

• Other Mentions:

  • Matt Collins (ATL), Jaden Higgins (HOU), John Metchie (NYJ), Tyrell Shavers (BUF), Demario “Pop” Douglas (NEP) as streaming options. (37:33)

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4. Week 12 Waiver Wire: Tight Ends

(39:17–43:10)

• Juwan Johnson (Saints): Top streamer, 2 TDs in last 2, heavily involved.

  • Craig Horlbeck: “I think we can just agree—if Juwan is available, that’s the best option.” (39:57)

• AJ Barner (Seahawks): Big week (11 targets), regular red zone/tush push usage, upside for volatile TE position.

• Colson Loveland (Bears): Riskier, less upside—splits with Cole Kmet.

• Mason Taylor (Jets): Has a shot if Tyrod Taylor can run the offense; possibly primary target going forward.

• Dalton Schultz (Texans): Should be rostered, but worth a look if available.

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5. Streaming QBs and Defenses for Week 12

(47:47–50:30)

• QB Streamers:

  • Jacoby Brissette (“NFL record completions in a game”),
  • Bryce Young (if healthy),
  • Tyrod Taylor (Jets).
  • Not Geno Smith (bad matchups ahead: Dallas, Cleveland).

• Defense Streamers:

  • Browns (vs. Raiders) – "Miles Garrett is going to break the sack record this year." (49:31)
  • Falcons (vs. Saints)
  • Jaguars (turnover luck vs. Cardinals/Titans coming up)
  • Raiders (if Shador Sanders starts for Browns)

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Fun & Memorable Segments

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A. Waiver Showdown Trivia Battles

• The hosts answer trivia to decide “rights” to each week’s top add.
• Examples:
  • “What’s the storage capacity of the human brain?” (Answer: 3 million gigabytes) (21:21–23:25)
  • “How many pennies in circulation as of penny discontinuation?” (Answer: 300 billion) (31:30–33:13)
  • “How many pairs of socks does the Guinness World Record holder own?” (Answer: 1,165) (44:22–45:24)

B. Sock Trivia and Tangents

• Extended riff on sock collections:
  • Learning Rex Pumphrey II owns the record (1,165 pairs).
  • The crew muses they could easily break this record with a clothing drive.

C. Mispronunciations & Family Email Gags (52:13–58:01)

• Fan emails about parents/kids mangling words and player names:
  • Mahomes becomes "Mahomes," Tannehill becomes "Tannenbaum."
  • Danny’s “Funny American Videos” (YouTube Kids).
  • Celery as “salary,” Danielle as “Daniel.”
  • “Cholula” hot sauce as “Chihuahua.”

D. Football’s Unintentionally Sexual Terminology (63:21–67:32)

• Listener Ryan: “As a bisexual man, I can say with authority that football is absolutely the gayest sport… terminology AND action.”
  • Montage of announcers: “coming down your throat,” “get off,” “bend and finish,” “penetrate.”

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Priority Waiver Rankings (Week 12)

(Aggregated from show consensus and discussion):

Running Backs

1. Kenneth Gainwell (if Jaylen Warren out)
2. Emmanuel Wilson (if Josh Jacobs out)
3. Sean Tucker (short-term play)
4. Bashel Tootin (stash if healthy) 5+. Chris Rodriguez Jr., Bam Knight, Devin Singletary, Jalil McLaughlin
   (Tyler Algier and Blake Corum are deeper stashes with high upside)

Wide Receivers

1. Alec Pierce (COL) — If available
2. Christian Watson (Packers)
3. Michael Wilson (Cardinals) [if Marvin Harrison Jr. out]
4. Luther Burden (Bears) 5+. Andre Yosivas (Bengals), David Sills (Falcons, 14+ team leagues), Pop Douglas (NE, for floor)

Tight Ends

1. Juwan Johnson (Saints)
2. AJ Barner (Seahawks)
3. Mason Taylor (Jets)
4. Colson Loveland (Bears) 5+. Dalton Schultz (if available)

Quarterbacks (Streamers)

1. Jacoby Brissette (Record 40 completions)
2. Bryce Young (if healthy)
3. Tyrod Taylor (sterile but safe for streaming)

Defenses (Streamers)

1. Browns (vs. Raiders)
2. Falcons (vs. Saints)
3. Jaguars (vs. Cardinals, Titans soon)
4. Raiders (if Browns start Shador Sanders at QB)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Danny Kelly (on Penix Jr.):
  "This is exactly what everybody was nervous about when he was made a top 10 pick... You can't separate the injuries from the player." (03:28)

• Craig Horlbeck (on Mason Rudolph):
  "Mason Rudolph is one of those careers where coaches talk themselves into it—he’s a good backup, but then he actually has to play and you remember: nope." (08:43)

• Danny Kelly (on running backs):
  "It frankly, recording this Monday afternoon, it matters a lot the news that comes out Tuesday." (16:41)

• Host Banter (on socks):
  "We could totally take this Guinness World Record... it's so doable." (46:02)

• Danny Hyperthen (on football terminology):
  "Let's make it even more sexual. Right?" (65:03)

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Memorable Tangent: Bacon as a "Superfluous" Food

• DK (Danny Kelly) is pilloried by the group for not caring for bacon.
• Craig: "So you'd rather just have lettuce, tomato and bread?"
• DK: "Yeah, I guess so. I think bacon overpowers everything." (59:12)

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Episode Energy & Takeaways

• Playful and full of inside jokes—perfect for both fantasy diehards and regular listeners.
• Key Week 12 waiver priorities are context-driven—watch injury news, especially at RB.
• This week’s show excels at breaking down the rapidly changing landscape as fantasy playoffs approach, while keeping things fun and deeply weird.
• Trivia, listener emails, and a digression into sock-collecting underscore the show’s charm.

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Suggested Listening Segments (Timestamps)

• QB Injury mayhem: (01:30–12:54)
• RB Waivers: (13:44–26:13)
• WR Waivers: (26:13–38:14)
• TE Waivers: (39:17–43:10)
• Trivia & socks: (21:21–23:25, 31:30–33:13, 44:22–45:24)
• Mispronunciations & emails: (52:13–58:01)
• Football’s unintentional double entendres: (63:21–67:32)

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Final Note

Whether you're patching your roster, searching for streaming gold, or just here for the trivia and group therapy, this episode is a lively, info-packed listen that proves why The Ringer's fantasy show remains a favorite.

Transcript

[Danny Hyperthen]

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[Danny Kelly]

Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyperthen. I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Horlbeck and we are going over all the must add players after week 11.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Got the scavenger week 12 week 12 waivers. Let's cook. You excited? You guys pumped? Big week. A lot of injuries. Quarterbacks are going down left and right. It's crazy. It's crazy out there.

[Danny Kelly]

Nothing like profiting off of professional injuries. We are going to email us your fantasy court issues, disputes, whatever. We actually already have a few. Sometimes I just litigate them. If they're really easy I don't even take them to the docket. I just kind of tell them the answer just be like no. Anyway keep emailing mealing your reading your fantasy football gmail.com email us for fantasy courts email us trivia questions. We'll take it all. Thank you for the ones you send in. They're good. We're going to get through all these injuries, all these waiver moves. Some phenomenal emails. Good trivia. But first we're going to take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime Bank Smarter. This season fantasy football is all about strategy. Well here's a winning strategy for your money trade banking fees for fee free banking 1.5% cash back getting paid when you say and a higher APY on your your savings. That's a lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank Smarter through Chime Chime is a financial technology company not a bank. Banking services and the secured Chime Visa credit card provided by the Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members FDIC optional services and products may have fees or charges [e-mail] feesinfo with a qualifying direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured Chime Visa credit credit card purchases APY means annual percentage yield. Learn [e-mail] okay starting off here again so many injuries. I think we have to start with quarterback this week just because frankly there's a lot of news starting with Falcons quarterback Michael Penix Jr. Is going on injured reserve for the Falcons. They're like possibly season ending seems super season ending. Michael Pennock's already missed a game with the bone bruise early this year in his knee and now the same knee. I mean the Falcons official Twitter said, quote we are working through the medical process to determine the severity of the injury end quote.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Which not a great sign.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean that's kind of all injuries you work through the medical process to figure out the severity. So the problem is they don't know by now. And Tom Pellissero at NFL Network helpfully clarified that. In case you're wondering, the this injury is to Michael Penix Jr's left knee, not his twice reconstructed right right knee which was a great reminder that Michael Penix tore his ACL in his right knee in 2018, retour the ACL in his in his right knee in 2020 and now has a knee injury that they don't even know what the diagnosis is in his left knee. So with that said dk, Michael Penix is we're looking at a guy going into his third season as a starter. He's played just 12 games in the NFL. He's going to be 26 years old on his second, possibly his third ACL injury. @ what point do you feel like the Falcons might have royally screwed things up here? Is it too panicky for me to say the Falcons using a top 10 pick in 2024, giving away their pick in 2026. Like are you concerned from Patnicks career at this point or am I being.

[Danny Hyperthen]

A nervous Nancy no, I'm not necessarily concerned about his career but this is exactly what everybody was nervous about when he was made a top 10 pick. I remember like we talked about Michael Penix a lot in the pre draft process before the draft and it was basically the question was always where do you rate him as a prospect and then where do you rate him? Where would you rate him as a prospect if he hadn't had four injuries in five seasons or whatever the whatever the exact number was. And you can't separate the two because he did have those injuries and that's a huge part of the evaluation. And now it's been a part of his NFL career. He already missed games this year with a knee injury. Now he's missing more games with a knee injury probably the rest of the year. I don't know what the official reports will be but it sounded like there is ACL damage. So so that is obviously really concerning. So yeah, I mean if you look at what the Falcons have done they are one of the most highly they have the most buy in at the quarterback position in terms of $100 million contract for Kirk Cousins and a top 10 pick and they're a 3 and 7 team and they're giving up their probably what's going to be a top 10 first round pick next year. That's not part of their acquisition of those quarterbacks. But that's just the state of the franchise. So things are really not Good right now for the Falcons.

[Danny Kelly]

As if it wasn't. Could it get worse? Drake London, the receiver, also has a PCL injury in his knee. And if you're like, well, pcl, at least it's not an acl. They're like, oh, he maybe will play through it. It's. I was reminded this morning, Brock Bowers had a PCL injury in the first half of the season. That's what he was trying to play through when Brock Bowers sucked. Ricky Parasol had a PCL injury and that took a long time.

[Danny Hyperthen]

So I think it's a stability issue is what I've heard. It just doesn't. Your knee does not feel stable and so it's very hard to do the football type movements. It's really, you know, a lot of important.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, the thing where Drake London just out jumps the cornerbacks who are the most athletic people in the world, and he just be kind of just like puts them to shame. Yeah, you need a little stability for that. So tough day for the Falcons. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like this is a team we just kind of beat up on, but I don't know how to say anything other than, yeah, it's giving up a top 10 pick and you're not even close to contending for the playoffs. It's kind of a disaster. But in terms of just for the rest of the season, they will, they will keep competing. There's no one. And obviously the teams always compete. The front offices have incentives to kind of mess around and stuff. But the Falcons don't have an incentive to do anything other than compete. Cause they don't have their first round pick. So in terms of this, I don't know how, how good do you think Kirk Cousins can be for Atlanta going forward? He played the one game kind of sucked. Looked washed.

[Danny Hyperthen]

You said it. I mean, I'm, I'm worried about this offense in general. Yeah, Cousins has not looked. He doesn't move very well. Obviously that's been kind of an issue for him for the last year. Plus, um, you know, they're. They don't have a lot of weapons outside of Bijan Robinson right now. Kyle Pitts has not been playing especially well, especially while Darnell Mooney has been a massive disappointment. Um, you know, who else do they have? Who, who are they going to get?

[Danny Kelly]

I'll tell you, man. I'm gonna tell you all about David Sills when we get to the receiver.

[Danny Hyperthen]

All right. David Sills. I'm excited.

[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I a small crack.

[Danny Kelly]

Small crack. Small crack. So Rapaport at NFL Network reported that Rogers is quote pushing to play in the Steelers upcoming game. Craig, how do you. Well one. Do you want Rogers with a broken non throwing wrist or do you want Mason Rudolph?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I still want Rogers. I don't, I don't know what we're doing. Convincing ourselves that Mason Rudolph is the answer. Like we've seen him for long enough. I know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We know this is the year.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like it's like he came in as a backup and he threw a couple balls downfield and everyone's like I actually liked what Mason Rudolph was doing for the Steelers offense more than what Rodgers was doing.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That was me.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, right.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't totally understand why Rogers can't play with the broken like left wrist. It's like isn't that what all the the horse tranquilizers they have in the locker room are for?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I kind of think he will play to be honest. And like the Steelers are still like could legitimately win the division and they're playing the Bears this week and I would much still rather have 42 year old Rogers which with a half broken left wrist than Mason Rudolph.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, I didn't even think about that. It's Rogers owning the Bears and he would. It's probably his last Bears game.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, well that was what I was going to say is like he if he wasn't so close to retiring he probably would take a couple of weeks off. But I'm like this is. This is it Rand. They got to go to the playoffs.

[Danny Kelly]

They got.

[Danny Hyperthen]

He's only got a few games left. He's just going to gut it out.

[Danny Kelly]

One last.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm with Craig. He'll probably end up playing like don't.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We remember last year Mason Rudolph was the starter for the, for the Titans for eight games.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't remember that actually he went.

[Craig Horlbeck]

One in four, he threw nine touchdowns, nine picks. Like, they weren't good. He wasn't good.

[Danny Kelly]

Mason Rudolph is one of those careers where coaches talk themselves into it because he's, I think he's a good backup quarterback. And then he knows he's not the starter. I think anyone who's been around that long is good at preparation, good at helping the starter. And they're like, well, when he has to play, he'll like, do what we tell him to do, and he'll do it roughly on time. And then he actually has to play. And you're like, oh, yeah, this is not an option. Why Mike Tomlin loves him, I have no idea.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's, like a big, physical guy, but, like, he's just inaccurate and has no pocket presence.

[Danny Kelly]

Other than that, he's great, uh, the lot of quarterback stuff.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So C.J.

[Danny Kelly]

Stroud, I just want to know. This one's going to get lost, but CJ Stroud is still in concussion protocol. And I wanted to flag this for people because Texans play on Thursday Night Football, so I kind of think Davis Mills might get a third game here because Texans are playing the Bills. It's one of those. I kind of just think the Texans would probably be wise to take the 10 days and give Stroud the extra 10 days to recover from the concussion. So I, I, I think Davis Mill is going to play again against the Bills Thursday football.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So I two and O with Mills.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Two and quarterback controversy defeated.

[Danny Kelly]

And then lastly, the jets are benching Justin Fields, which I think is a huge deal for fantasy. I don't think it matters at all for the jets in real life. Well, I mean, it does for the Jets.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's not even that big for fantasy, because who are you playing on the Jets?

[Danny Kelly]

Regardless, we'll get to that, too. Don't you worry. Stay tuned. Don't, don't touch that dial. But I wanted to just, you know, take this moment to memorialize Justin Fields, as this is the official death of Justin Fields, the concept of him being a starting quarterback in the NFL. I think Justin Fields will now be one of the cooler backup quarterbacks you can have. As in, like, perfect guy to come in for two drives and then just, like, run for 60 yards, have one completion, and then you're fun and then that's it. But I, I think Fields, I really do think this is going to be, and to me, the one of the worst stretches of a starting quarterback I can ever remember purely in terms of passing the football. And they literally, I'll take away the garbage Time he was the single worst quarter, including J.J. mcCarthy. Anything he fields was the worst passer this year. It wasn't even close.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He had one of the longer stretches as a starting quarterback in his career. For somebody who was so poor passing the ball, I mean, he really, he held on for a long time.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a bizarre tolerance for a guy that really struggled to hit 60 yards passing at four times. And then one of the games he had 54. It was like he had a 40 yard screen.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Anyway, honestly, it goes to show how much rushing has, how important rushing has become and how much you're willing to overlook because of somebody's ability with their legs.

[Danny Kelly]

It's. Yeah, it's really strange. So Terrell Taylor is going to play. The jets are playing the Ravens this week and Terrell Taylor spent the first four years, four years of his career with the Ravens. So anyway, I just wanted to note that we can get to like if that means anything for waivers.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But there's also like Jackson Dart, we think is going to come back from his concussion. Dylan Gabriel and the Browns is in concussion protocol. We don't, we don't know if he'll be playing next week or not. If it's Jador Sanders again, Dart is.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Still in the concussion protocol, isn't he? I'm. I'm a little. I'm starting to worry that he might not play this week.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. It said the Giants were optimistic he'll be able to return.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know. I don't know how. What that means.

[Danny Kelly]

They usually usually have to miss one game with the new concussion protocol. So I mean, obviously it depends.

[Danny Hyperthen]

But are you guys worried at all with. With Dart that. Because there was a report I saw today that said the club is like talking to him about very specifically about protecting himself and not running as much. It's sliding and you have to do a lot better job. Like this is the reason we fired table. You have to protect yourself. So do you. Are you worried at all that his upside as a fantasy player is going to be dramatically changed or if. Or if that's just all sort of like lip service and he'll be the same guy.

[Danny Kelly]

He won't be as he certain. I don't think he will run as much or be as effective, but he was pretty freaking good. So, I mean, I think he's still going to be able to run into the goal line and stuff. I don't know. I think it's one of those. You take 20% off the top. Yeah, I think, frankly, I guess Maybe the. Now that I say it, the issue is maybe there's less garbage time, contact. I think if the Giants. Look the Giants playing the lines this week. I think under Dable man, even if the giants were down 20 to the Lions, I think they running in design.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Runs should go down.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes, the design runs should go down for Dart. Like Dart's going to need to learn to slide. But overall you're still going to play him. I think he's still going to rush, but yeah. Anything I'm forgetting with all the. I mean there's so much quarterback news.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, the only other like Jordan Love left the game came back last week with the shoulder injury, but I think he's fine.

[Danny Kelly]

He just took a stupid hit. And also Packersons were mad at me in the right because Jordan Love played well and I kind of made fun of him because of Malik Willis coming in with my intrusive thought. But Jordan Love just kind of took a stupid hit on like 1st and 20 and he gained like 4 yards and took a real shot. But he came back in the game and played pretty well and Herbert was kind of pulled because they were getting blown out. So. Okay, I think that's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Remind me, what are the bye weeks next week? Did you already say that?

[Danny Kelly]

Oh yeah, sorry. The buy the teams on by next week are the Dolphins because they're coming back from Germany. Chargers because they're.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They're coming back from Florida.

[Danny Kelly]

Coming back from Florida, which is huge for them. Washington also come back from Germany and Denver. So those are the four teams on by and then. Yeah, without further ado, we can get to running backs. DK, who's your number one running back you would add off waivers entering week 12 here.

[Danny Hyperthen]

This is a good week for running backs. I'm going to say Emmanuel Sanders. Sorry. Emmanuel Wilson for the Packers.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Emmanuel right off the top.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Emmanuel Sanders. Name, I mean way backtrack.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The retired wide receiver. Come on.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, I'm not adding him.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't feel strongly about this. This is all depending on what Josh Jacobs does. If Josh Jacobs misses time, which it's looking like he will, he's considered week to week. With the knee injury. They're saying he didn't suffer a long term season ending injury. But my guess is he'll probably won't play this next week. Which means you're getting the starter in Emmanuel Wilson on a team that likes to be balanced, likes to run the ball and I thought he's looked pretty good honestly when he's gotten opportunities. Um, they get Minnesota and then at past that it's at Detroit, Chicago and at Denver. So they got some tough defenses coming up but he's like a clear cut starter whereas a lot of the other guys are sort of in committees right now. So I guess I would just go with him out of the confidence that he will be the lead guy if Josh Jacobs doesn't play.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think if I could it's it's Monday. We're recording. You have until Tuesday night to submit your waivers. Obviously I think if I knew that Jaylen Warren was maybe not going to play, I'm taking Kenneth Gainwell even if Josh Jacobs is out because agree with that I Minnesota has been really really good lately and like I almost just think the packers just going to throw the ball more and maybe split a little bit with Wilson and Brooks or whatever. But like I don't know. Emmanuel Wilson played well. He played 70% of the steps. He looked fine. But I Kenneth Gainbell to me is much more reliable, really good in the passing game. Passing game we've seen it multiple times this year. He had 80 receiving yards after Warren went out yesterday. So I think like If I wait 24 hours and it looks like Jalen Warren who has an ankle injury is not going to play even though he said he could have returned but he looked pretty hurt. I would take Gainwell, however if we know that that Warren is playing, I would take Emmanuel Wilson.

[Danny Kelly]

Agree I this is a good week in that there's a lot of options and players that could help you this week and also down the line. It's also a bad week for us to make definitive thoughts on Monday because I agree with what Craig's saying where this week if Jalen Warren is going to miss this game that Kenneth Gainwell is a better option. But also we don't know if Aaron Rodgers is even going to be the quarterback for the Steelers this week or it's basic Rudolph and I don't know if I want Kenneth Gainwell if Jalen Warren's kind of limping around but he's there and Mason Mills the quarterback. But Rogers playing would make Kenneth Gamble great. But then to DK's point like if Josh Jacobs misses the game even with the Vikings run defense, Emmanuel Wilson's probably going to get a lot of run. So it really frankly recording this Monday afternoon it matters a lot the news that comes out over Tuesday as well and it matter I think people I think that there are more answers based on what you need. I will also again make the distinction of are you Just kind of surviving a day at a time and trying to make the playoffs. Or are you kind of making the playoffs? You need someone for the longer run, which to me changes my answer because we even mentioned Sean Tucker for the buccaneers, who had 140 scrimmage yards and three touchdowns. He's also hard to figure out because Sean. Because Buck Irving. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Came back to assuming he's back.

[Danny Kelly]

That's the thing. So on one hand, Sean Tucker won't do that again because the Rams defense is better than Bills, is stopping the run, Buck Irving coming back. But also, I think Sean Tucker played so well that I think Bucky Irving coming off two different injuries that kept him out like almost two months. I think Bucky Irving's taking up the mantle here and getting the workload we were thinking about getting him getting last year. I don't think it's going to look like that to start. It might not look like that the rest of the year because if he's so banged up that they thought it'd be two weeks and it took six, why are you going to give Buck Irving 30 touches to start? So Sean Tucker is someone that could have a role. I think this week I wouldn't be shocked at all. Sean Tucker was still kind of the lead back. And also, honestly, if he didn't get hurt at the end of the game, I was going to pick Bashel Tutin for the Jaguars because he was the best game of his career. Like 15 carries, 74 years, a touchdown. He looks sick. And then he tweaked his ankle and we don't totally know what's up with him either. So there's a lot of options, but.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Clear as mud here. Who. Who do we want to go with for this? And because we talked it through, I think everybody knows that's listening. You just kind of have to watch the news a little bit on Tuesday before you put in your waiver claims. But who do we want to actually officially do the showdown for here?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Should we look at it as next year alone, next week alone? Like, who do you want in week 12 if you can only if you only need a guy for one week because of a buy, who do you want?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I kind of think Gainwell actually. I'm kind of changing my mind, Craig, because I think you're right that Jaylen Warren was hurt enough that Gainwell will probably be the lead guy.

[Danny Kelly]

He tried to go back and they're going and the Steelers going against that defense.

[Danny Hyperthen]

So I guess I'll change my answer to Gainwell.

[Danny Kelly]

Gainwell Even when he was on the Eagles, they did he, for a smaller back, always got a weird amount of goal line work. So I think that playing the Bears, I think I agree that Kenneth Gainwell's probably the right answer.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

At least for week 12.

[Danny Hyperthen]

All right, dude.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Emmanuel Wilson. Do you guys. So he's an undrafted guy. He's like 26 years old. DK as our draft guru, I guess maybe you're not expected to know what happened, where he went, because he literally didn't get drafted. And you're not the undrafted guru. I'll give you guys anything you want if you can tell me the two colleges that Emmanuel Wilson attended.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Is it, Is he like a D2 guy?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I actually, I'm assuming these are D2.

[Danny Kelly]

Chattanooga.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I've never heard of either of these schools.

[Danny Kelly]

Southern Utah, Good guess.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Mid East, North State.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So the, I'll say the second school first, because the first school is crazy. The second school he went to is Fort Valley State.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You're familiar with that?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I've heard of that. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay. The first school he went to is just called John. Is Johnson Smith.

[Danny Hyperthen]

What is that, like a CC or something?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Johnson C. Smith College.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Port Valley State.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Now a starter in the NFL. Pretty crazy.

[Danny Hyperthen]

All right. Well, yeah, I, I. All I know is I've seen Wilson over the years. I think the last couple of the last two years, he's like made spot appearances for the packers, and I've always been pretty impressed with him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Johnson C. Smith is an HBCU in Charlotte. Fort Valley State is in Georgia.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Tennessee. Oh, Georgia.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, so they're the Golden Bulls, which is a pretty sick.

[Danny Hyperthen]

The Golden Bowls or Bowls Bowls. Bowl Bowls or Bulls?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Are you saying, Pam, are you saying there's. Oh, there's, there's two Bs.

[Danny Hyperthen]

B O W L or B U, L, L? The Golden Bulls.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Did you guys get my Pam joke or no?

[Danny Kelly]

I did.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay, good.

[Danny Kelly]

Have a lot of MIS stuff at the end, too.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Anyway, I love when they go, oh, there's Pam. No, there's just one M. As if that makes any.

[Danny Kelly]

Also, just to clarify again, if Josh Jacobs had been out for like a month, Emmanuel Wilson would be so easily the number one guy here. But the fact that he's Josh Jacobs seems like he'll miss one game against an incredible run defense and be back. Kind of is the reason. Like, if Josh Jacobs is out for longer. Right. We would all have Emmanuel Wilson way higher.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think that's right.

[Danny Kelly]

Because it's a tie. The long term stuff Is certainly more the. It's like a tiebreaker. Probably a little more.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I agree.

[Danny Kelly]

But with that said, sure, we can do the Kenneth Gainwell.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right, it's time for the Kenny Gaines showdown. Time.

[Danny Kelly]

All right.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Give me something good. Knife. It's. Give me something good.

[Danny Kelly]

So we asked for science trivia.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think you did. I want trivia about Trip.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't want science.

[Danny Kelly]

I asked for some science trivia.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We've established where the devil I want.

[Craig Horlbeck]

To guess how many peanuts are in a Snickers bar. That's what I want.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, well, someone send that. But this was my favorite because I was like, make it science. Make it in English. And this was my favorite one.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

This is from Sean.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Sean S. Bone.

[Danny Kelly]

What is the storage capacity of the human brain?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay. What is the metric we're looking for?

[Craig Horlbeck]

You said gigabytes. Supposed to be in English. Gigabytes.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, if you're. It was like, you know, you got a hard drive here. You got it. Like you've had story. How many gigabytes is, like, the human.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Brain, are we saying?

[Danny Kelly]

Love this question.

[Danny Hyperthen]

So it's gigabytes, not terabytes?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. I'm just. It's. It's in bytes. I don't know.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Do we know? Do we know? Ram answer is this. Is this a quantifiable answer that we know?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. But the fact that he wrote it is incredible, Craig.

[Danny Hyperthen]

The answer.

[Danny Kelly]

I was blown away.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We made it up.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, please, dk, you're running out of memory. We could. We could, we could. I know how many memory.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm oper.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm on, like, a operating system from, like, 08.

[Craig Horlbeck]

DK is like a 2016 iPhone. It's like, do you. You could upgrade to 64.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I haven't updated anything in six years because I don't want all the stuff that slows you down.

[Danny Kelly]

I learned on the last work trip when DK wakes up in the morning, that he actually makes the dial up sound like, from aol.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, that's a terabyte. A thousand gigabytes.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I think so.

[Danny Kelly]

That makes sense. That sounds right. Well, yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Got it. Okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

This. I don't know the answer to this.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, no shit. All right.

[Danny Kelly]

Three, two, one.

[Craig Horlbeck]

100,000 terabytes. Gigabytes.

[Danny Kelly]

What'd you say?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Said 10,000 gigabytes.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay, I said 100 terabytes.

[Danny Kelly]

I think I said a thousand.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I thought we had to answer in gigabytes.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Wait, what did I say? Fuck. I don't remember. My RAM is low.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You don't remember what you just said?

[Danny Hyperthen]

You're right.

[Danny Kelly]

I think DK's. DK's capacity.

[Danny Hyperthen]

It was either 100 or a thousand.

[Danny Kelly]

DK just needs to start deleting, you know, stuff in his brain.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Carlos, did you hear what I said?

[Craig Horlbeck]

10,000 gigabytes feels low now. Damn it.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I think I won. It's 3 million gigabytes.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Oh.

[Danny Kelly]

So I'm pretty sure I won.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Not my brain caps at 10,000.

[Danny Kelly]

DK was probably right. Yeah, I know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

How much did you say? Hibitz?

[Danny Kelly]

I said 10,000 terabytes.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So I thought we had to answer in gigabytes. So I was anchored to that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

3 million gigabytes is 3,000 terabytes. So that's. This complicates things.

[Danny Kelly]

What?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right. Because I said either 100 or 1,000. I don't remember.

[Danny Kelly]

I think the fact you don't remember disqualifies you. I'll get second place anyway. I'm going to take Kenneth Gainwell. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

So, dude, I didn't want him. I'll take Emmanuel Wilson.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'll take Sean Tucker. Great.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We all came away heavy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I do think it's a tier of three guys. Gainwell, Tucker and Wilson, I think are. And then it's like you get into Devin Singletary, Chris Rodriguez, Ollie Gordon, guys like that. I'd probably take Bashel Toon over all those guys in case he's healthy and comes back in a week or two.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I would. I guess I would say Kenneth Gamble first. Sorry. Emmanuel Wilson second, Sean Tucker third. I'm doing Tootin fourth. And then if you need it for a week, bam. Night and the Cardinals, like, he might be the best option. Honestly, just for straight week 12. Like, there's a chance he outscored because Trey Benson might not come back this week. But then Amari demarcado for the Cardinals, another guy we don't know the deal with. If Amari DeMarcado misses time, then it's like, bam. Knight clearly seems like the lead back for the Cardinals or at least more and more week. Chris Rodriguez Jr. For. This is where it gets a little more gross. But like, Chris Rodriguez Jr. Is. Oh, no, he's sorry, the Washington's on by. But I do think when he comes back, Chris Rodriguez will be the starter for Washington.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

So if you're planning for the future, but you're also desperate, Chris Rodriguez is probably the worst starter running back that's available at your league is Chris Rodriguez Jr. Imperfect. But if you need something for the stretch. Jalil McLaughlin, same thing. I feel like he's just going to get touches for the Broncos. They're on by, they can come back. But those are like.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Did you mention Devin Singletary?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, Devin Singletary, same thing. He's like going to get goal line touches for Giants offense. That's kind of disgusting. So he won't do the 17 points he just got you this week. But those are like gross options. But there's a clear top tier here of Toot and Tucker and obviously I think we'd take over all these guys. Tyler Algier and Blake Corum, if they're available in your leagues. I think we would take over all those guys.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Not next week, not next week.

[Danny Kelly]

But the combo of I would take Algier over all these guys because I think Algier is as likely to score a touchdown as anybody we're talking about. But if Bijan goes down, Algeria is straight up a top eight running back.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Remember how we were talking about how Algier was getting all the goal line work? Well, maybe they heard us talking because it was Bijan this week that got all of it.

[Danny Kelly]

And then Bijan just had like the coolest touchdown. Bijan's entire skill set was in like the one second where he just kind of like juked a guy, trucked a guy contact balance and then accelerated away from everyone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, wide receivers, I think if Alec Pierce is available in your league for the Colts, just get him. I think we would take Alec Pierce over anyone we're about to talk about.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So for whatever coming off the buy, he's like almost 50% rostered.

[Danny Kelly]

But yeah, if for whatever reason Alpierce is available, we would certainly take him. But with assuming that he's taken DK, who's your number one receiver?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Christian Watson for the Packers. 34% rostered on Yahoo. Just an explosive play waiting to happen. He's. I think he's a high variance guy. He's kind of like in the same vein as Alec Pierce where he might not get a ton of targets, but he's. When he turn, he turns his targets into a lot of yards because he's deep down the field. So I'll go with Christian Watson. The packers offense is still really banged up. There's a lot of injuries at the receiver and tight end position and yeah, I think he's a good player.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, if again, I guess it's expected that Marvin Harrison Jr. Is back from his appendectomy next week if he's not. I would take Michael Wilson 100%. But I guess if Marvin Harrison is back, I agree that I would take Christian Watson.

[Danny Kelly]

I would, I would go. I would take Watson. I'm down with Watson. I know. I mean, Michael Wilson the fakest numbers at 15 catches for 185 yards last week. That's crazy. It's funny because he is like the number one receipt. I mean, he does look better than Marvin. But also the Cardinals are down by so much, but maybe that's just kind of their kink, so maybe it'll keep.

[Danny Hyperthen]

You know, Brissette legitimately set an NFL record for most completions in a game, so it's kind of wild. That's not going to happen every week, probably.

[Danny Kelly]

What if he just has more completions this week?

[Craig Horlbeck]

But DK, if, if Marvin Harrison Jr. Is out, would you still want Christian Watson against Minnesota or Michael Wilson against the Jags? No.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I think I agree with you that if, if Marvin Harrison misses another week, which means you should probably take Michael Wilson just in case, put him on your waivers.

[Danny Kelly]

If they're both there, I would take Watson because I do think Watson's probably better rest of the season. And it's one of those. It's like the running backs. It's like if it's a coin toss between Watson or Wilson, to me, the tiebreaker is just. Christian Watson has like looked like the best team on Green, the best receiver on Green Bay this year consistently.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He just doesn't get a lot of work. I mean, no, he has. He has yet to have more than five targets in a game this year. That's the only tough thing.

[Danny Kelly]

That's true. He's. He's boom, bust. But he's. To me, he's just a difference player and difference maker. And I've just been shocked him. It's. Jeez. Christian Watson has again, like the end zone. It's just the packers don't have a lot of their end zone guys. Josh Jacobs banked up. Jaden Reed is really one of their end zone guys and he hasn't been here all season. He might be coming back around Thanksgiving. But Christian Watson just to me is clearly their explosive play guy, kind of becoming a third down option. And then also just. He's the guy in the end zone that I think Jordan Love is going to play. And again, Jordan Love did actually end up playing really well last week. I know I made fun of him, but I think Watts, I think get.

[Danny Hyperthen]

A lot of people yelling at you.

[Danny Kelly]

I did.

[Craig Horlbeck]

On what like On Blue sky, no email or real life. Okay.

[Danny Hyperthen]

On the street, as you were walking.

[Craig Horlbeck]

To get your bagel this morning, somebody screamed at you.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. Okay.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Seems like you touched a nerve.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I know what happened there.

[Danny Kelly]

Wilson, what's going on here?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Let's do Watson.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I feel like because the Wilson is dependent on Marvin Harrison Jr. And Watson's probably the better option long term.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right, let's do it. It is the Christian Watson showdown time. So I should say hi. Fitz is pulling away here a little bit in trivia. He has 12 wins. DK has eight, Craig has nine. Craig is me.

[Danny Kelly]

Is this. What are we doing? Is the loser good at where he.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Said the people who are losing first again?

[Danny Kelly]

Does the loser have to raw dog a flight again? What are we doing here?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, it's in San Francisco, so It's like a 40 minute flight. I don't know from LA for you.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I ain't doing that again.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's when we're all together, so it'll be on the way back.

[Danny Kelly]

DK to LA. You won't do it again.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Just don't lose for 45 minutes. Or are you going to be just alone flying back to your home? And again for dk, that's not bad. It's like an hour and a half flight. It only sucks for you.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I will raw dog the 45 minute flight from. I think let's go to LA.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We should do a raw dog drive. I like that DK has to say in the far back.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No phone.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Bird.

[Danny Hyperthen]

It's gonna be singing.

[Danny Kelly]

We need this. Yeah. Email Surreal fantasy football. Gmail dot com if you you guys.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Want to hear the most annoying sound in the world.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Dude, that guy was in. It popped up in a movie we just we're doing on the rewatch was I think the movie that's coming out tonight. I guess I can't spoil that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't know.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, no. Bill tweeted it. Snake eyes. Oh, oh, wait, no, we already did Snake. Just kidding. That came out last week. I don't know where I am. Yeah, that guy's in Snake eyes. That was kind of cool. I was like dumb and dumber guy.

[Danny Hyperthen]

The. The villain guy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. The definition of a Joey pants when you just go, yeah. Dumb and dumber guy.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

He knows at bring your fantasy football punishment. Okay. This trivia question for Christian Watson is.

[Danny Hyperthen]

From Taylor T Bone Tay Tay.

[Danny Kelly]

Did we do the gong? We did.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, we gonged.

[Danny Kelly]

We talked for so long. I forgot about the gong. The. This from Taylor the Penny has Been discontinued.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

How many pennies are estimated to be in circulation? Yeah, last week. Stop making the penny.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Last week, the penny's done.

[Danny Kelly]

They're just not.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We gotta make them anymore.

[Danny Kelly]

We're not making a penny. No more pennies.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Stop throwing your pennies in the fucking fountain.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Wow.

[Danny Kelly]

So Taylor asked how many pennies are estimated to be in circulation right now by the shit. This one. This one hurt my brain. I felt physically unco. Like it actually hurt my brain. Three, two, one million. You said how many?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Probably way too high. I said 10 trillion.

[Craig Horlbeck]

10 trillion pennies?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't know.

[Craig Horlbeck]

On earth.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I was guessing high ten, A thousand terabytes, maybe.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know, because I said 60 billion. You know what I ended up doing? I read this, and I was like, how many pennies do I have? And I started thinking about all the pennies in my life because I still have a piggy bank from when I was a kid somewhere in my childhood bedroom. I was like, that thing's got, like, hundreds.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't. I don't really know, like, what a trillion dollar. Like, I don't even know, like, what. I can't con.1 trillion.

[Danny Kelly]

That's a lot. That's too many.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm like, how many trillions of dollars is the United States in debt?

[Danny Kelly]

It's a lot of pennies.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right, so how many pennies are there?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm comfortable guessing too high. Seems like there's gonna be a lot of pennies.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There's probably a lot of pennies.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. The answer, Taylor wrote 300 million and then was like, oh, sorry. Correction. 300 billion. 300 billion.

[Craig Horlbeck]

300 billion. So I have its wins. 300 million. I would have won.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Damn it.

[Danny Kelly]

That's crazy.

[Danny Hyperthen]

300 billion pennies.

[Danny Kelly]

It's kind of like a little freaky that that exists.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right, so high. Fitz gets Christian Watson. Who's closer, me or dk?

[Danny Kelly]

Me.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Oh, yeah. By a lot.

[Danny Kelly]

Probably 9 trillion off.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I will take Michael Wilson.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Is that it?

[Danny Kelly]

So I get Christian Watson. You get.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Actually, you know what? Fuck it. Michael Wilson's not good. He's had one good game in history. I'm taking. I want to take Luther Burden. I just want it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Craig, get on. Come on, man. You've been doing this all year. Yeah, you got to have him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You got to have him. I don't care. I want Luther Burden this week. Took over the third wide receiver role. He basically took over the slot roll from Alamed Zakus, and he. He's now the slot guy for the Bears, and I just think he's really good. Every time I watch Luther Burden, I'm like, this guy's going to be a thing. And so I want Luther Burden.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay.

[Danny Hyperthen]

All right.

[Danny Kelly]

Are there other people you would want to talk about? DK for receiver? Those people aren't even available.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Andre Yoshavas for the Bengals, because Jamar Chase is probably getting suspended. Well, he did get suspended. He's appealing the suspension, so we'll see what that happens. But there's pretty clear evidence of him just hawking a loogie on his friend there. I think if. If he's out, they're still going to pass a lot. The Bengals are, you know, and T. Higgins moves up to be, like, a really highly ranked guy this week. And then I think Yosef Ash Yoshivash will be up there.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Star, no Mooney on your radar at all with no Drake London?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Absolutely not. I'm. I'm out on Mooney, as you. As you guys have noticed. I'm like the one person who's noticed. Darno Mooney has been really annoying this year.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I know you want to put him in the burn book, but he's been so, like, no one's playing him.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Well, it's because, like, during the off season, I was all excited about Dardo Moody, and then he just, like, got hurt early in the year, and ever since he's back, he's had like, a 30% target rate and caught like five passes.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I know. He really does not catch any of the balls that he throws.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, that's the problem, man. He doesn't catch any of the throws.

[Danny Kelly]

I would not do Dornell Mooney for two reasons. 1, 3 injuries this year because Darnell Mooney also got hurt in this game. Cause Darnell Mooney one had a collarbone. I think it broke his collarbone in August. And then he had hamstring injury, and now he has a rib injury. And he left this game in Atlanta. Two. Number one. Number two. We have a game this year where Kirk Cousins played with Darnell Mooney and without Drake London, and Darnell Mooney caught one catch for 11 yards. So I'm out on Darnell Mooney. Although if you're in a really, really, really, really, really deep league, I want to give you a deep cut here, which is David Sills for the Falcons. I'm not even saying you should add Sills if you're the fourth, if you're even in anywhere near a normal sized league. But if you're like in a sicko league. And a lot of these recommendations like you're like these people are taking. I just want to shout David S. Because one weird life accepted a scholarship to play quarterback for lane Kiffin at USC when he was 13 years old. Shout out. Josh Kendall at the Athletic has a good story about David S. From August. And then David Sills went to West Virginia, became a receiver, was a New York Giants practice squad preseason legend. Giants fans were crushed when David Sills was cut. He's like classic white slot receiver, gym rat, like not that physically coach's son. Yeah, just. Yeah, just like classic having. Here's the, here's the key point. David Kirk Cousins moved his locker this year and his locker has been next to David Sills all. All year. And I just think that Kirk, if he's going to complete any passes, is going to complete the passes to David Sills and that that is actually the relationship that could get better through the course of the season. This is insane. And if even if you're in a 14 team league, that might be too deep. But I want to just shout out David Sills.

[Danny Hyperthen]

All right. So past that Matt Collins until Keisha Booty comes back, he's still just going to continue to get volume. For some reason. Jaden Higgins for the Texans has kind of taken over the number two role in that passing game. David or Davis Mills has actually been pretty playable in terms of like he's making the guys on the fantasy guys on that roster pretty good so far. John Metchie for the jets, if they actually can throw the ball to receivers and complete passes could be a sleeper for again, this is more like sicko, like 16 team leagues, 14 team leagues. And then Tyrell Shavers for the Bills who kind of took over for Keon Coleman is like a. Just keep an eye on him, the.

[Danny Kelly]

Person in between those two groups because we just listed a lot of people that might be roster a lot of people that are unrosterable. The person in the middle I think is dk. Your beloved Pop Douglas, Demario Douglas of the Patriots solely because K Sham Booty is still banged up. But also the Patriots are playing the Bengals and it's just kind of a bet on good offense, good quarterback, team that allows a lot of yards and points. And if you actually do need someone to just like fill in for this week, I think Pop Douglas really fits the bill as someone who will be on the field for a team that is getting first downs and points. So that to me is like a good feeling. Okay, anyone else tight ends.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I took Michael Wilson there, by the way. I don't know if we explicitly said that, Craig.

[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Kelly]

Ordstrom tight ends. This one, I'm curious. So are we including Juwan Johnson here for the Saints?

[Danny Hyperthen]

He's rostered 46% of Yahoo, 35% at ESPN. I think he's borderline. I think we can use it. I think we can utilize him here. I don't know why we wouldn't. There's a lot of. I feel like there's going to be people that need to stream tight ends this week.

[Danny Kelly]

I feel like he's clearly the first guy. Right. Would we all agree on Jawan Johnson? It's like if he's available, like he's definitely number one.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think so, yes. Two touchdowns in his last two games. Rashid Shahid is now gone. They're playing Atlanta, then Miami.

[Danny Kelly]

I think we could just agree on him. I think if Juwan's available, like there's no controversy there, like he's BA. He's basically like right there with Olavi as the 1B in the offense.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

So I think we can just like agree if. If Juwan Johnson's available in the tight end, like that's your best option. So if he was gone, dk, who would you pick as your number one tight end of stream for this week?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Heifetz has been hyping this guy up lately. AJ Barner for the Seahawks had 11 targets in this game against the Rams. I don't think that's going to happen Every game he's going to be a volatile option. But all these tight ends are pretty volatile in terms of targets and target rate. But man, the Seahawks just keep finding ways to get A.J. barner the ball. Like whether it's in the red zone, whether it's on. They use him for their tush pushes, so he has the option of potentially being in there in the red zone. And now he had 11 targets in his last game. Like he was a big part of their passing game. So I guess I'll just go A.J. barner. He, he again, he's like, it wouldn't be that surprising if he gets like one target, but he's also, you know, scored a bunch of points this year in Fantasy just because they love to use them in the red zone around the goal line. So I guess I'll go AJ Barner. The other options would be Colson Levelin for the Bears, who's still out there in some leagues. Cole Comet's back now and they're rotating. So I don't love that Mason Taylor for the jets is another like sort of sleeper option just because if Tyrod Taylor can complete passes, that's going to change the jets offense, at least from fantasy point of view. And then Craig's boy Darnell Washington, Big D, who's been actually pretty good lately.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He has, I think. I agree, dk I think it's AJ Barner as much as I like Loveland and I think the Bears offense can continue to get better. Like Loveland is averaging three catches per game when Kemet is playing. Yeah, and that's kind of, they basically split snaps, so I don't think you can pick him. Barner, the touch push thing is kind of nice. Like that's a nice little added bonus that they use him in that way. But I do, I like, I think if I, if I lose this trivia like Mason Taylor with Tyrod Taylor, the Jets receivers are brutal, man. AD Mitchell, John Mechi, Isaiah Williams, they're all new guys that they traded for. I know these guys are brand new players and I do think Mason Taylor's good. Although I, I don't really want to be to touch the jets. So A.J. barner to me is like he can kind of disappear in moments, but he has big spike weeks. He gets the tush push carries. He's on a good team. I would go A.J. barner.

[Danny Kelly]

I would, I, I agree with what you guys are saying. I actually would even consider, I, I, I, I kind of wonder if Mason Taylor is the number one guy for me this Week. I, I actually, I guess we can go with AJ Barna as the number one because at the end of the day, it's. The Seahawks offense is just so much better. And yeah, the Titans, the, like, the touchdowns. I know Darnold did play well against the Rams, but yeah, we can go A.J.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Barner.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, I just wouldn't be like, would you be surprised if Darnold throws five touchdowns this week and.

[Danny Kelly]

No, not at all.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But might throw zero.

[Danny Kelly]

I think Mason Taylor is right there, though, because the jets, to DK's point about John Metzie, I don't love John Mechi for picking up a receiver because I don't think the jets offense is going to do a lot, but I think Mason Taylor will be like the number one receiver on this team in terms of targets and catches for the rest of the season. But the bar at what is acceptable at tight end is so much lower than receiver that Mason. I think Mason Taylor might get like. I think he might get like 10 targets a game for the Jets. Going forward to Rod Taylor, the Jets offense was unusable with Justin Fields, but I think it's. It's a good example of just. It's not gonna. His impact probably won't be captured immediately. So I. I think he's like a huge value this week. So I think that Barner and Taylor are the top two, but. And then there's a big drop. But I agree.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right, you want to do Barner then?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All right. It is the AJ Barner. DK's guy showdown time. Remember when I used to put the.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Hands up.

[Craig Horlbeck]

OG days back when we were off video? I used to just throw my hands up and wiggle them back and forth to make DK laugh like I was his son trying to get his attention.

[Danny Hyperthen]

It worked.

[Danny Kelly]

Bring it back.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We'll see.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, this one. This one's from Rex.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Rex?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Rex the King.

[Danny Kelly]

Actually, there's no way that's right. That wrong. But that's okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think of Toy Story.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Get Rexed.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Did you guys see the new Toy Story?

[Danny Kelly]

I lied. It's from Jake.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Ah, Jake. There's no Jake.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think so. This is because I had my sock crash out the other day, but with socks to wear. Right, Rex? No. God, they keep getting it wrong. Sorry. Jake writes as of May 30, 2022.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Who is this Rex?

[Danny Kelly]

Because get there. Who? Guinness World Record Rex.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Now I need to know.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I'll tell you who. The Guinness World Record holder for the number of pairs of socks owned is Rex Jerome Pumphrey II of Monroe, Georgia.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Whoa.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Wow. That's quite the name.

[Danny Kelly]

Rex Jerome Pumphrey II of Monroe, Georgia. Rex Pumphrey owns the most pairs of socks. All caps. Pairs, not how many socks. How many pairs of socks? How many pairs of socks does the world Guinness World Record holder of socks, 100 trillion.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So DK because of socks. That means you have to double it. Number of socks.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Wait, what are we. Are we guessing? We're actually guessing the number of socks.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, pairs. We're guessing pairs. I was being an idiot.

[Danny Kelly]

Pairs.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I was being a jerk.

[Danny Kelly]

All right.

[Craig Horlbeck]

How many pairs of socks does Rex own? This little freak?

[Danny Kelly]

3.

[Craig Horlbeck]

2, 15000. Ooh.

[Danny Kelly]

I said 15,000. Would you say DK?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I said 10,000. I'm finally low on one. Drake said 25. 10, 25. 50,000.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, we're all pretty close on our guesses.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm surprised the answer is. Where's the answer? 1165.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I could beat that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm pretty close.

[Danny Kelly]

There's no way that's the most socks anyone owns.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Give me a. Dude, I bet you, like, Justin Bieber owns more than that right now.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, Floyd Mayweather would, like, never wear multiple pairs.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Here's the thing, Craig. Here's the problem with your logic here is you think he's keeping all those socks. He's throwing them away after one wear, Right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Maybe.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That's right. He goes through a thousand socks a year.

[Danny Kelly]

It's weird how many. I feel like it. There's. I feel like one of us might have, like, 80 pairs of socks. If you.

[Craig Horlbeck]

How many pairs of socks do you guys own? I don't.

[Danny Kelly]

I.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right now, probably, like, I think I own 50 or something.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Between, like, dress socks, regular socks.

[Danny Kelly]

Hold on, hold on. I just realized something. Do you know we could so easily just take the Guinness World Record for this? Do you know how easy it would be to just take. Just get 1200 pairs of socks?

[Danny Hyperthen]

We just get people to donate socks to us so we can get in the Guinness Brook World Records.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like, yeah, we do a clothing drive, but for. For ourselves.

[Danny Hyperthen]

But then we'll donate them.

[Danny Kelly]

And then we'll donate them.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah. Holy shirts and socks should.

[Danny Kelly]

We could totally take this Guinness World Record. It's so doable.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Wait a minute. An older Guinness record mentions a woman in Missouri with over 10,000 pairs of socks.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Ooh, guess who was right on the number.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You mean you win either way.

[Danny Kelly]

But did she, like, pass? And then did the kids sell the sock collection? How did she lose that auction.

[Danny Hyperthen]

They auctioned off her socks.

[Danny Kelly]

They divided it up.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Rex's passion for socks started on his wedding day. Quote, they weren't merely accessories. They were conversation starters. Little pieces of art hidden beneath my shoes. And a surprising source of joy.

[Danny Hyperthen]

It just doesn't feel like that many socks.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I know.

[Danny Kelly]

1100 not. It's weird that like our. I feel like my dad has like a hundred and it's weird that my dad is. There's probably 10 of the way out.

[Danny Hyperthen]

There living in squalor with like boxes and boxes of socks.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, I think that's right.

[Danny Hyperthen]

This is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's.

[Danny Kelly]

That's really strange. Anyway. Okay, I don't. Who came in first? Dk.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

You. You get Ag Barner. Craig.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, I got last.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, okay. So that I get Mason Taylor and then you have to pick a third guy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yuck. Give me Colson Loveland.

[Danny Kelly]

And then Dalton Schultz is the only guy we didn't mention with the Texans.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, he would be. I think I would take him above those guys. He. He was a little bit higher rostered so I left him off my list.

[Danny Kelly]

Dalton Schultz is available. Yeah. He might not be. He's there. They also Britain Strange is coming off ir. I don't know if I'd play him the first game back, but he'll be back at some point and Darren Waller maybe will come back, but those are people you can stash if they're. They're available. Yeah. Okay. Shout out Rex's socks now for a special segment of today's episode. Smarter Moves presented by Chime here to help you bank smarter this season. Chimes got smarter moves for your money and we've got smarter moves for your league this week. So starting with if you need a stream of quarterback where you're storming the Jets, I think Todd Taylor is perfectly fine. I like it's the Ravens so I don't really love that but like if you really do down in the dumps need a quarterback. I think Todd Taylor is probably going to move the offense better. It's probably not the best thing that you're ever going to do, but he is like available. Bryce Young. Want to see how his like he also was banged up but he did have. What was the number? DK?

[Danny Hyperthen]

448 yards, I believe.

[Danny Kelly]

That's just unbelievable, which is incredible. But the number one guy is probably Jacoby Brissette because of the whole, you know, 40 NFL record completions in a single game thing. So I think Jacoby.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That's been great.

[Danny Kelly]

Jacoby Brissette Bryce Young, Todd Taylor and no matter what happens on Monday football tonight. Not Geno Smith, not Gino Smith. Not Gino Smith because he's going from Dallas to Denver. So just. It doesn't matter.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. They're going back to Denver next week. Sorry. No Cleveland. Sorry. So a different orange team. In my head, the rate they're playing the Browns and the Browns are top 5 D and the Dallas is bottom 5 D so I don't care what Geno Smith does on my football. I would not play him against Cleveland. So. But yeah, to Rod Taylor, Bryce Young, Brissette and for defenses this week, if you got a stream, it's a tough week to stream. I think a lot of the better defenses are getting to be watched.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Cleveland right now is a nice one because they just played the Ravens so a lot of people probably weren't starting them. And now they're playing Vegas.

[Danny Kelly]

I think the Browns are. If they're. I would do. I would highly recommend getting the Browns defense if they're available again. Miles Garrett is going to break the sack record this year. Like he just. He. They might have the defensive rookie of the year and the defensive player of the year and gonna win two games. But I would do the Brown State Falcons defense if they're still available, might get cut. They're playing the Saints this week. I know they didn't do great versus Carolina, but I still think the Falcons, these like probably better Jaguars, weird turnover based defense but they've got the Cardinals then the Titans the next couple weeks. But yeah, any world in which you would.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You would fathom starting Vegas.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I was gonna ask the exact question.

[Craig Horlbeck]

If Shador Sanders plays, would you start the Raiders defense against the Browns?

[Danny Kelly]

Oh. Oh my. Oh, that's. Wow. That.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Probably might rank him first. Honestly, if Shador Sanders is to play, I would. Yes, I would do the race.

[Danny Hyperthen]

He's going to get all the first team reps though, so.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's true.

[Danny Kelly]

Is he going to. If he unlearns how he's played quarterback his entire life in five days, then it'll be fine.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

I would do the Raiders versus the Browns. Yeah, it's a good call. That is a smarter move. That's it for this week's edition of Smarter Moves. But remember, if you want to make your smartest move yet, switch to Chime. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services provided by the Bancor Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members FDIC. Learn [e-mail] okay, few emails we'll get out of here.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I thought you just said females.

[Danny Kelly]

But.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It was a few emails. I was like, oh, what are we doing? Okay, go ahead. Sorry, sorry for.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm wondering if we did actually have any. Oh yeah. Some people emailed in are actually women, despite the odds.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Hell yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Incredible. Although first we just stat watch here from Mitchell Mitch Embone. Sunday's J.J. mcCarthy watch made me think about how many Pff. Big time throws. Or as Craig. How do we say it?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Big time froze.

[Danny Kelly]

Big time froze.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Big time froze. Womadunze.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, dude, honestly, Craig, can you just do.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Wait.

[Craig Horlbeck]

KWB Williams. Womadunze 11 big time flows for KWB.

[Danny Kelly]

Mitchell proposes another stat for terrible quarterbacks. Bad time throws. J.J. mcCarthy just overthrew Jordan. Jordan Addison five yards for hospital pass in front of the safety. That's his fifth bad time throw this half. Bad time throw. Bad time throw.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Do you think people laughed out of the title of our episode last night which had J.J. mcCant throw in it? Or was that dumb? You think people like that?

[Danny Hyperthen]

It was dumb and therefore they laughed.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay, good.

[Danny Kelly]

Definitely.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I think.

[Danny Kelly]

I bet they think that I wrote it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I laughed.

[Danny Kelly]

They think you're better than Craig.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, that was my. I wrote that unfortunately.

[Danny Kelly]

But they probably thought it was me.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So if you were on the street is you're the guy yelling at Heifetz over his Jordan love take and you also yelled at him for J.J. mcCanthro. That was not him. Direct those criticisms to me.

[Danny Kelly]

So. But the real highlight of the emails today, we asked you to send us examples of your parents mispronouncing names and words and wow.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Next flick.

[Danny Kelly]

Absolutely thrilling. Yeah. In honor of Tony Romos can't pronounce Steve Spagnolo's name and then Kai's dad apparently calls Netflix Netflix. So thank you.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So hard to say.

[Danny Kelly]

We had somebody email in and say my four year old daughter calls it Netflix and she says she wants to watch her favorite movie, Netflix Kids Bop Demon Hunters on Netflix, which is also funny.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Kids do say funny. One time I showed Calvin America's Funniest home videos on YouTube for kids and then he thought YouTube for kids was just America's Funniest Home Videos. But he calls it Funny American Videos. So anytime he wants to watch YouTube he just says, can I watch Funny American Videos?

[Craig Horlbeck]

That sounds like what Borat would call American.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'll take a movie film for betterment of Kazakhstan.

[Danny Kelly]

If you were inspired by these emails, I'll take things your parents say, but also take things your kids to say. Words or phrases.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Funny American videos.

[Danny Kelly]

So with these. This email's from Graham.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Graham G. Bone.

[Danny Kelly]

My dad, a lifelong Chiefs fan, cannot land the plane on Patrick Mahomes. Oh, my dad pronounces it Mahomes.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Good God. A lifelong Chiefs fan, Mahomes.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The all. The announcer, all game just says Mahomes.

[Danny Kelly]

Mahomes spins. Won the Super Bowls for this guy. Patrick Mahomes. And Graham also writes, we live in Nashville. We also follow the Titans. And for the entire time, my dad referred to Ryan Tannehill as Ryan Tannenbaum.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I love that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Just Tannenbaum. It's just easier. There's a lot of Tannenbaums.

[Danny Kelly]

Graves. One more name I'll never get over. Didn't even have the heart to correct him is my dad calls the guy David Hasselhorse.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm noticing a trend here that it's only dads.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, well, there's some mom stuff too. No, we got. Let's see here. Lucas here says my mom refers to celery as salary.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

And she also cannot figure out my wife's name is Danielle, not Daniel.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What?

[Danny Kelly]

I know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Come on.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Doesn't make any sense.

[Danny Kelly]

A popular genre was people being like, my parents can't say my kids names.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I mean, it can't be. It can't be that hard.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, sometimes it's hard. Bill still struggles with horror.

[Danny Kelly]

Beck, I call you Clark Hogback.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I still get Holbrook all the time. Holbrook, Whore, Black, Horbeck. It's. It's never. It's never clean.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I gotta change my name.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, but that's not someone's first name.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I guess that's true. Still, it's like people very close to me in my life still sometimes can't really say my last name.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I had this fear last night that I accidentally called you Greg. And I don't know if it's true or not.

[Craig Horlbeck]

My brothers in law called me Greg just to fuck with me.

[Danny Kelly]

We should weave that in DK every now and then. Just see it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Used to it at this point.

[Danny Kelly]

This one's from Kirk. This one's from Kirk.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Kirk.

[Danny Kelly]

Today's breakfast was a bacon, egg and cheese biscuit and a bottle of Diet Mountain Dew.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Thank you for sending in your breakfast.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, roll my bottle.

[Craig Horlbeck]

A bacon, egg and cheese and a Diet Mountain Dew.

[Danny Hyperthen]

A bottle of Mountain Diet Mountain Dew.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, I'm sure It's a normal 12 ounce bottle.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Not a liter of cola. Can I get a liter cola?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Not like Will Ferrell from Elf.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Kirk.

[Danny Kelly]

Follow with a trivia question. How Many ounces was in your. Your bottle. Kirk says my dad's 70 instead of field goal. Kirk says they're Chiefs fans too. Kirk says my dad calls Isaiah Pacheco. Isaiah Panchero.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

And the best part is here in Iowa we have a Chipotle like restaurant called Pancheros. But I am certain my dad has never been to it or heard of it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I thought you were going to say he calls that Pachecos.

[Danny Kelly]

Nice. Another one here from Eli.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Eli.

[Danny Kelly]

Eli, my dad's friend, earnestly, genuinely thinks Alzheimer's is called Old Timers.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, that's a thing. Old Timers disease.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, that's good.

[Danny Hyperthen]

He earnestly believes that's the name of it.

[Danny Kelly]

Old Timers. I've heard that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, I've heard that before.

[Danny Kelly]

Please email these in. These were so fun. And one of them, this one is from Tanner.

[Danny Hyperthen]

T Bone Tan.

[Danny Kelly]

Tanner says my entire immediate family cannot pronounce cholula. We have cholula in our fridge all the time, no matter what. But my mom, my dad, and my brother all say Chihuahua.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What?

[Danny Kelly]

They say chihuahua.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What are you fucking Al Pacino and son of a woman?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. And every now and then I'll hear from the kitchen. Unbelievable. Chua, he says every now and then I'll hear chahua hua.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Jesus.

[Danny Kelly]

Not. It's not actually like that, but he wrote.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He said, bordering on creation.

[Danny Kelly]

I know, I didn't read. He says chahuahua hua.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Humanamanui.

[Danny Kelly]

Which isn't even. No, not bad. Not even close, though.

[Danny Hyperthen]

God, that's good.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Cholula. Chahua. I guess it's easier to say that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't. What is cholula? I don't actually know what that is.

[Danny Kelly]

Hot sauce with a little wooden.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Gotcha. You would know it if you saw it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, I recognize it now.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay, those are good. Any others? When I was a kid, I couldn't say certificate. I said certificate.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That's funny.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And that, that. That lingered on longer than it should have.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Like 20.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, it slipped in a couple times, you know, into my early adolescence.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

This guy. One from Tim.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Timmy.

[Danny Kelly]

He's breakfast was peanut butter jelly with bacon and an optimum nutrition energy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Peanut butter jelly with bacon to start the day.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, I. It really is a window into people's lives, man.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I want to try that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That's interesting. Like, fresh off the thing or did you put cold bacon on there?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, interesting. It's probably hot. I mean, like, what are you making?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Bacon, peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Hot bacon on it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Sounds kind of good to me. Yeah, I gotta say that.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, no, this is where we have to. Deacon doesn't like bacon. We always forget this. Deacon doesn't like bacon.

[Danny Hyperthen]

That's why bacon overpowers everything, because bacon.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And jelly makes sense. Like, the sweet bacon works. There's bacon jams. Like, that's already a thing.

[Danny Kelly]

This is quietly DK's hottest take. He doesn't like bacon.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He doesn't like bacon. Damn. A bacon. A bacon. PB&J. Sounds great.

[Danny Kelly]

Should we try that tomorrow?

[Craig Horlbeck]

This one's really good.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I just think bacon, the flavor of bacon completely overpowers everything. There's a few. There's a few, like, foods that like that, where it's just all I can taste is the bacon.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, but that's. But it's awesome because bacon tastes great.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I understand that. I don't personally like the taste of bacon as much as everyone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There it is.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't. I wouldn't say I dislike the taste of bacon. I just don't like it that much and I think it overpowers everything else, so I just choose to have it out.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So you don't like BLTs, right?

[Danny Hyperthen]

No, I would take the bacon out.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, then it's not.

[Danny Hyperthen]

If I was forced to have a blt. If I was given a BLT and I was like, you would take the.

[Danny Kelly]

Bacon off the blt?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yes.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So let's say this. Let's say it's your only. You're hungry and the only thing you can have for lunch is a blt. Are you still going to remove the bacon or are you just going to eat the bacon because it's the only thing you can have for lunch?

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'm removing the bacon.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Still removing the bacon?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So you'd rather just have lettuce, tomato and bread?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, I guess so. I. I will. Like, if someone makes bacon in the morning, I think it smells really good and I'll eat, like a plain piece of bacon and it's fine. But I don't like it on other stuff because it just completely overpowers everything else.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But if. If you like plain bacon, why would I.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Guess my point is I don't like it enough to have it on stuff.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't really understand that.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'll eat it if it's there because it smells good. I think the taste is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But you're like, oh, this is detracting too much from the lettuce and bread.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Well, I don't eat BLTs.

[Danny Kelly]

I think that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think BLTs.

[Danny Hyperthen]

There's like bacon.

[Craig Horlbeck]

My favorite.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Bacon burgers. I would rather just have a burger.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, that's okay. I get that the bacon on the burgers is a. It's superfluous.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Did you say it's superfluous? What did you say? It's superfluous.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Superfluous. Is that a joke from the movie? I'm not.

[Danny Hyperthen]

No, I thought. I thought I just caught a superfluous in there.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It is. It's. It's. I'm not. What is the office joke? I'm not. I'm a little superstitious.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, yeah, not superstitious. Just a little stitches.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Superfluous. I'm a little fluous, though.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Hyphas. Did you think it was superfluous?

[Danny Kelly]

I was just enjoying this podcast making fun of DK's palette and it. And a mispronunciation accusation where I wasn't a part of any of it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It was just, you know, I definitely said superfluous. We can check the picture.

[Danny Hyperthen]

No, no, I. I believe you. I just thought you said something else.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's a dumb word. We should get rid of it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I agree. It's a superfluous word.

[Danny Kelly]

It is superfluous.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Superfluous.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Superfluous. How do you even say that word now? Now I'm all superfluous. I'm all tongue tied. I can't even say it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We need accents on words.

[Danny Hyperthen]

You need to know that.

[Danny Kelly]

The emphasis, it's like. Did you say it wrong? Meanwhile, he didn't know how to say it. No.

[Danny Hyperthen]

We said it so many times, I can't even remember how to say it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Stupid word.

[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperthen]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperthen]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperthen]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, cheez it. Yeah, cheez it. Crackers. Go check them out. Okay, before this next email, I want to give a quick trigger warning for parents who are listening to this with your children. The next one is really funny and really explicit. Explicit enough that we decided to actually warn you that this was going to happen. So giving you your time, I'm vamping so you can go pause the show. Come back because it's funny. This email's from Ryan, our bone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Right guy.

[Danny Kelly]

So we were talking about. I made a plea for announcers to stop talking about the term get off on Sundays and just stop telling me pass rushers get off is really fast. And Craig, you correctly pointed out. You know what? Maybe we normalize getting off really fast.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Maybe we not only normalize it, but perhaps celebrate another walks of life. A quick get off.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. One second's really impressive sometimes. So it's a compliment. Ryan. Ryan emails in it is some Ryan Arbone Breakfast is avocado toast with a fried egg.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Love it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

See, I'm doing. I'm. I fuck with that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's a great breakfast.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I'll eat that. Don't put any bacon on it, though.

[Danny Kelly]

Ryan writes, as a bisexual man, I can say with authority that football is absolutely the gayest sport.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Both in terminology.

[Danny Hyperthen]

There's so much. Yeah, there's so much sexual terms.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so. It's.

[Danny Hyperthen]

There's so much sexual innuendos.

[Danny Kelly]

Innuendo terminology. Ryan writes also just actual physical action. And I don't know if you've seen this clip from Chris Collinsworth a few years ago, but I feel like it cements my point. And he included a YouTube video. And Carlos is going to play the video.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Some positive energy going again.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

And let him get a little taste of some of these big guys coming out, hitting them like, all right. You think you're gonna run around our guy?

[Danny Kelly]

How about if you get a little taste of Landon Dickerson coming right down your throat?

[Danny Hyperthen]

Jesus Christ.

[Danny Kelly]

So he had.

[Danny Hyperthen]

It had to be Landon Dickerson too.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Coming down your throat.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't ever want this to go. I love it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I agree.

[Danny Kelly]

This reminded me of the funniest, like, tick tock I saw all year, which was this woman. I have the handle because it's so funny. It's k. K. Tris 10, who just had. The caption was just like what I hear while my boyfriend's watching football.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah. It's like Aikman's. Like they were coming and they were coming hard.

[Danny Kelly]

Wait, Carlos, play it.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Sorry.

[Danny Kelly]

I loaded this One, too. You have to.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Like when there's a guy coming right in your face and he just sits in there and delivers. Jesus.

[Danny Kelly]

Coming down his face. Feeling is the cowboys probably coming right down their throat.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I mean, look, I think it's fun. Let's keep it going. Let's make it even more sexual. Right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

What happens?

[Danny Hyperthen]

You know, you got sex sells guys.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Men out there battling every day. You're gonna get some stuff. You're gonna get some quotes like that. What's.

[Danny Kelly]

What's going to happen? You know, it's nice sometimes to get an outside perspective. Sometimes, you know, you see something with fresh eyes or fresh ears and it all sounds very different.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I feel like get off is like the least of your concerns. Some of the other they say, yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Coming down your throat. I don't know why. Why do they say. Why is throat involved? Say coming down the middle or something. Coming around the edge. Coming down your throat. We don't need.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, I like that. There's also there. I, I. When I do the draft guide stuff, there's so many sexual terms, you know, like just coming right through the gap. Right into the gap. Thrust. Thrust is a good word.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oily hips.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Oily hips.

[Danny Kelly]

Bend. Finishing ability.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Oh, God. The best finisher in the world.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Supple butt.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I don't know if I remember that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

One.

[Danny Kelly]

In a phone booth. Used to be quite the skill. Just, it's all about the get off. So you can penetrate, bend and finish.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Penetrate. Bend through the gap hard or go around the edge.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Strong thrust.

[Danny Kelly]

All right. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone. Thank you. Chris Collinsworth. Thank you, Troy Aikman. Thank you ever for emailing us. Email us your trivia questions. Email us. Fantasy course for Power hour. Thank you, Lord.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Lord, thank you.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Genuine or. Genuine. Nice. Ginuwine. Is that how you say it spelled with a G? G, I, I believe.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Anyway, riding my pony.

[Danny Kelly]

I guess it was. Thought it's genuine.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Maybe it is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I guess I've come to realize I've never actually said the word out loud.

[Craig Horlbeck]

His real name is Elgin Baylor Lumpkin.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Elgin.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Elgin Baylor Lumpkin.

[Danny Kelly]

Elgin Baylor.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Really?

[Craig Horlbeck]

His name fucking name is Elgin Baylor.

[Danny Kelly]

This is like. This is like Mike Wargon being. Was going to be the name Michael Jordan, but Elgin Baylor. Elgin Bay Lumpkin is like the funniest last name. I love Lumpkin, but Elgin Baylor. I see why you had to go with the stage name.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Genuine. He's Also apparently known as Tornado, which I was unaware of.

[Danny Hyperthen]

I did not know that. Did he have any other hits besides. Besides Pony?

[Craig Horlbeck]

You know, I'm not the right person to ask.

[Danny Kelly]

You weren't there.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Well, I'm asking you anyway. Look it up. You got a. You got Spotify out.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We should play Pony while Chris Collinsworth is reading those lines. Yeah, that would play.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Yeah, yeah. Landon Dickerson.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Womp, womp, womp, womp.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Ryan, the guy all the way down the. Down the field, you know.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Did you listen to genuine dk Just.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Pony over and over. There was a. There was a time during my SB Nation days where SB nations, like mains, like Twitter account would put everything to Pony. So, like, anything that would happen, you just put it to Pony. And it was a. It was one of the best times of my life.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That. Honestly, that's like. It was a purer time back then. It was a funny bit around the office. You know, right now there's like the headings and porn everywhere you look. Yeah. You know, times are different.

[Danny Kelly]

Only if you.

[Danny Hyperthen]

Let's just put it to put it to Pony. I want to get back to the days where we just put stuff to Pony.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We can start that. We have an Instagram account.

[Danny Kelly]

Sure. Bring it back.

[Craig Horlbeck]

All of our breakouts will just be such a pony. And then he'll sue us.

[Danny Kelly]

We'll bring it back. Goodbye, everyone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

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[Danny Kelly]

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[Danny Hyperthen]

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[Craig Horlbeck]

Wanna hear it again?

[Danny Kelly]

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