Week 17 Waivers, DK Metcalf, Suspended, Championship Trivia, and Clanker Coke Ads

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show – Week 17 Waivers, DK Metcalf Suspension, Championship Trivia & Clanker Coke Ads

Release Date: December 23, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz (A), Danny Kelly (B), and Craig Horlbeck (C)

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Episode Overview

This episode, recorded during the heart of fantasy championship week, is a quintessential Ringer Football Show blend of strategy, locker room laughs, wild tangents, and late-season desperation. The trio talks through the absolute final week of fantasy waivers, debates the DK Metcalf suspension, runs a heated round of Championship Trivia, and spirals into discussions ranging from the history of the phrase “buttload” to viral AI Coke commercials, all in their trademark off-beat and self-deprecating style.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. DK Metcalf Suspension [03:23-06:10]

• News: Steelers WR DK Metcalf receives a two-game suspension for “conduct detrimental to the NFL” after a confrontation with a fan.

• Details: Heifetz reads ESPN's report by Brooke Pryor, highlighting Metcalf’s prior issues with the same fan, contradicting the idea of it being a one-off incident.

• Context: The fan has denied any use of slurs or hate speech but Metcalf has a documented complaint history against this attendee.

• Analysis: The group withholds final judgement but acknowledges the unusual personal history and speculates on the likelihood of Metcalf's appeal.

  “There’s almost no reason to punch a fan.” – Heifetz [04:54]

  “If there’s a paper trail… that is nuts.” – Horlbeck [05:15]

2. Week 17 Fantasy Waiver Wire Advice

Running Backs [08:18-12:21]

• Blake Corum: If somehow available, he’s the clear top add, but more likely already rostered.
• Michael Carter (Cardinals) vs. Bengals: Lead back on a bad offense, decent matchup, but sharing time [08:50]
• Chris Rodriguez (Commanders) vs. Dallas: "Bottom of the barrel," but has volume with 15 carries, 65 yards, TD last week. Matchup against a beat-up Cowboys run defense [09:25]

  “If you’re in the toilet bowl... this is for people like me.” – Horlbeck [06:57]

• Consensus: Tie between Carter and Rodriguez. Ultimately, Rodriguez edges out as “showdown” pick.

Wide Receivers [17:48-26:41]

• Parker Washington (Jaguars): Primary suggested add after a 6-catch, 145-yard, 1-TD game, but a “Trey Tucker syndrome” warning (big week, may not repeat).
• Other Considerations: Trey Tucker (vs. Giants, exploitable matchup), Jalen Coker (vs. Seahawks), Luther Burden (injury risk), Shamar DK.
• Old Men/Joke Picks: Adam Thielen, but generally no faith in the Steelers’ injury-ravaged WR corps.

  “He's usually the best player on waivers, flex-wise, but this week, it’s really thin.” – Kelly [19:03]

• Consensus: Parker Washington the top WR add, with a wide trough of questionable alternatives.

Tight Ends [28:51-30:49]

• Taysom Hill (Saints): Multi-purpose usage (running, passing, and receiving), and all-around “farewell tour” volume. Audric Estime, Devin Neal, both banged up.

  “Taysom Hill... is maybe my favorite player that’s been in the league since we started doing this show.” – Heifetz [30:07]

• Other options: Brenton Strange (Jaguars, if available), A.J. Barner (Seahawks), Pat Freiermuth, Darnell Washington (Steelers).

Quarterbacks [38:11-39:36]

• Streamer Desperation: Malik Willis (Packers' Jordan Love may be out), Tyler Shough (vs. Titans), Geno Smith (vs. Giants), Stetson Bennett, Tyler Huntley (if Lamar Jackson sits).

  “God, I hope no one has to do it, but if you need to…” – Heifetz [38:11]

Defense/Special Teams [43:17-44:51]

• Patriots D/ST vs. Jets: Top spot, given Jets’ offensive futility.
• Bucs D/ST vs. Miami, Steelers D/ST vs. Browns, Packers D/ST vs. the Ravens: All worth targeting, especially given QB injuries and turnover-prone offenses.

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3. Championship Trivia Showdown [12:23; recurring throughout]

• A running trivia contest between Heifetz, Kelly, and Horlbeck, focusing on NFL oddities, historical stats, and fan-submitted questions:
  • How many teams has Josh Johnson signed with?
    • Answer: 25 [15:14]
  • How many gallons is a “buttload”?
    • Answer: 126 gallons; “two hogsheads make a buttload” [23:47]
  • Cloy Box NFL single-game receiving record
    • Answer: 302 yards [33:07]
• Highlights: The hilarity of buttload as a measurement (“two hogsheads is one buttload”), discovering that Cloy Box's career day was over 300 yards, and the ongoing “craziest Josh Johnson fact” draft.

  “How many gallons is a buttload?” – Heifetz [22:55] “Cloy Box… 302 yards. Legend.” – Kelly [33:15]

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4. Fun Tangents and Notable Moments

Fantasy “Toilet Bowl” Roster Talk [07:02]

• A celebration of abysmal championship teams making deep fantasy playoff runs, with examples of lineups that “don’t make sense” and stories of managers like Jackie advancing with rosters no one would have picked in August.

Viral AI Coke Ad Wheels [50:01]

• Craig, egged on by a listener email, details how Coke’s Christmas commercial has impossible AI-generated trucks with differing wheel numbers frame-to-frame, sparking a broader discussion of low-effort AI in modern marketing.

Name A Woman Game [53:36-57:36]

• An absurdly self-aware tiebreaker round: the trio tries to name as many women as possible (excluding athletes and personal acquaintances) in 60 seconds. It quickly devolves into a list heavy on first ladies, SNL stars, and, as they note, 1990s swimsuit models.

  “Dude, that was pretty good. We know a lot of women.” – Kelly [55:31] “Is it bad the ‘name a woman’ game ended up us talking about swimsuit models?” – Heifetz [57:46]

Miscellaneous

• Clint Eastwood, Marshawn Lynch, and Josh Johnson are all Oakland Tech alumni (and Lynch & Johnson are cousins)! [16:01]
• Origins of “buttload” [23:47]
• Fantasy Court tidbits, live-score griping, and obscure fact-dumping throughout

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Notable Quotes & Moments (w/Timestamps)

• “There’s almost no reason to punch a fan.” – Danny Heifetz [04:54]
• “If there’s a paper trail, too… that is nuts.” – Craig Horlbeck [05:15]
• “If you’re in the toilet bowl... this is for people like me.” – Craig Horlbeck [06:57]
• “I would go with Carter, just because DK said lead back versus Bengals… but nothing is ideal this week!” – Danny Heifetz [09:47]
• “Let’s talk about upside. It has to be Taysom Hill. Four catches, 12 carries—16 touches and that’s not even counting him passing!” – Danny Kelly [29:56]
• “How many gallons is a buttload?” – Danny Heifetz [22:55]
• “Cloy Box… 302 yards. Legend.” – Danny Kelly [33:15]
• “Dude, we know so many women. It’s crazy, man.” – Craig Horlbeck [55:33]

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Suggested Play Orders by Position (Week 17 Waiver Targets)

RB:

1. Blake Corum (if available)
2. Chris Rodriguez (WAS)
3. Michael Carter (ARI)
4. Emmanuel Wilson (GB), if desperate

WR:

1. Parker Washington (JAX)
2. Trey Tucker (LV), Jalen Coker (SEA), Shamar DK (TEN)
3. Luther Burden (if healthy)

TE:

1. Taysom Hill (NO)
2. Brenton Strange (JAX), if available
3. A.J. Barner (SEA), Pat Freiermuth (PIT), Darnell Washington (PIT)

QB:

1. Malik Willis (if Love sits)
2. Tyler Shough
3. Geno Smith
4. Stetson Bennett, Tyler Huntley

D/ST:

1. Patriots (vs. Jets)
2. Buccaneers (vs. Miami)
3. Steelers (vs. Browns w/shaky run game)
4. Packers (vs. Ravens backups)

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Tone & Style

The hosts maintain a funny, bantering, and lightly self-deprecating style, riffing off one another’s jokes and listener emails. There’s irreverence but also direct, practical fantasy insight—even as they poke fun at their own waiver wire recommendations. Expect tangents, playful digs, pop culture offramps, and plenty of “wait, is this for the championship or the toilet bowl?” asides.

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Final Thoughts

The episode is a lively listen for championship and consolation fantasy managers—and for anyone who enjoys deep trivia, football absurdities, offbeat debates, and three friends spiraling into silliness under the guise of fantasy football advice.

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Next Episode: “Big Fat Wednesday” show will cover Week 17 preview—coming soon after the Christmas break.

Merry Christmas, fantasy degenerates!

Transcript

[A]

Foreign. Welcome to the Ringer Fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyfus and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korbeck and we are going over all the players you must add entering week 17, the fantasy football championships. I don't know if anyone is actually going to take players off of waivers favors and put them into their lineups or if people have made the finals, but at the very least, we have our trivia championship that we have to figure out here. And also have to address the fact that if you are watching on video, I look like I am in narcos Mexico.

[B]

You look like you're on the Marty supreme press tour.

[A]

I'm just part of like Timothy Chalamet.

[C]

You ever see Traffic Craig back in the day, like how everything was in a sepia tone?

[B]

Yeah, dude, I, I the early. I hate that.

[C]

That's, that's Heifetz right now.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. He looks like he's inside of an orange ping pong ball right now.

[A]

How did you. That's actually the lighting. There you go. So I'm just ahead of the curve. So, yeah, we're going to go through. Yeah, all the waivers, trivia, emails and yeah, they're just jealous that I got to see Marty supreme. That's all. But first, we're going to take a quick break. This this episode is brought to you by United Airlines. Flying just got easier with the United Airlines app. Get real time flight updates like a live countdown clock to boarding even if your screen's locked as well as play by play directions through the airport with a personalized map. And if you want to make a game time decision and go home early or stay longer, there are no fees to change your flight. Get the united [e-mail] app no fees to change your flight excludes basic economy applies to flights originating in the US Fare difference may apply. This episode is presented by Chime Bank Smarter. This season, fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money trade banking fees for fee free banking 1.5% cash back getting paid when you say and a higher apy in your savings. That's a lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank Smarter through Chime Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and the secured Chime Visa credit card provided by the Bancorp Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members FDIC optional services and products may have fees or charges. [e-mail] fees info A qualifying direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured Chime Visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn [e-mail] Dude, I will say Narcos, the in music was pretty incredible the first season. Oh God.

[B]

It was like a good show, though. I loved that show.

[A]

Narcos was when it came out.

[B]

That guy reduced to. People think that guy might win an Oscar this year. Pablo Escobar, the guy who played him.

[A]

No, he's in another movie about a scientist. In what country?

[D]

Right.

[B]

He's in this movie called the Secret Agent. People think he might get an Oscar.

[C]

No.

[A]

For it. Cool.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's Brazilian.

[A]

All right, we're gonna get to waiver ads and trivia, but first, just want to address the DK Metcalf thing. People were mad that we didn't talk about it on the Sunday show, but we had a sneaky feeling that something like this is gonna happen. So I'm just gonna read Shout Out Brooke Priority espn who does a great job. And I'm going to just read because I think every paragraph of this story at the top is important. Steelers wide receiver DK Metcalf has been suspended two games without pay by the NFL for, quote, conduct detrimental to the NFL for initiating a physical confrontation with a fan, end quote, during Sunday's game before field. That was the end of the NFL quote. Still quoting Brook story. According to the NFL release, Metcalfe's actions violate the league policy that specify players may not enter the stands or otherwise confront fans at any time on game day. If a player makes unnecessary physical contact with the fan in any way that constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct or presents crowd control issues, blah, blah, blah, blah, he will be held accountable. And then Ryan Kennedy, the Detroit Lions fan involved in the altercation with DK Metcalf on Sunday denied he used a racial slur, misogynistic or hate based language during the incident, according to a statement released by a Michigan law firm. And then DK Metcalf, who played for the Seahawks before being traded to the Steelers this year, reported Kennedy to Seattle. Team security in the passed, a source confirmed to ESPN Seahawks reporter Brady Henderson. The Seahawks played at Detroit in 2022, 2023 and 2024.

[B]

Yeah, so clearly there's a little bit more going on here than just he struck up a conversation with a random fan. Obviously you don't ever want to be punching a fan. That's. That was a horrible look and it looked bad in the moment, but we don't exactly know yet what this guy said to DK Metcalf and how that triggered Him.

[A]

So, you know, there's almost no reason to punch a fan.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Almost.

[C]

Right? Almost.

[B]

Putting down.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, the fact that they have a history is actually kind of wild.

[B]

It's nuts. I couldn't believe that. That he was like, I know this guy, and I've told Seattle security about him before.

[C]

If there's, like an actual. If there's a paper trail, too, on this, that is like, not security.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

This guy, this fan. Yeah. So he's out two games. He's. I think he's going to appeal.

[C]

He has appealed.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, we'll see if he's able to make it back if it gets reduced by a game or not, but. Yeah, the last two games of the season, he might not play.

[A]

Yeah, we gotta. I forget the timeline of how the appeals work, but obviously that's huge because that would either be the Ravens game or if they go to the playoffs, so it could be pretty substantive. But, yeah, the fact that this guy's come up before. I immediately went from the guy's side to DK Metcalf side, like, really quickly.

[B]

It just felt like there's a video and it appears like nothing's going on, and the guy doesn't say anything, but it's like something happened before the video, clearly. I don't know. The whole thing doesn't. Doesn't pass muster.

[C]

Right. Yeah, We'll. We'll withhold judgment for now. Until more comes out.

[A]

Exactly. The guy said he called DK by his full name. That's why I never called DK by his full name, because the last time he did, he slapped the shit out of me.

[B]

That's right. Even though. Yeah. Don't you ever call me Daniel. To Kalyn Kelly. That's your name.

[A]

To Kaylin Kelly. What'd you fucking call me? Okay, let's get to waivers. I mean, if you're here, no point in explaining it anymore. I mean, people know how it works by now. It's the last week of the season, so for the handful of people who found us this week, we hope, you know, for the first time.

[C]

Yeah, welcome.

[A]

We're going to go through waivers position by position, and we're going to add players. And frankly, it's an excuse to finish our trivia championship because with the exception of three people on this list, I hope you don't have to play any of these people in your fantasy championship.

[B]

If you're a fantasy championship, odds are your bench is deep enough where even if you had Quin, Sean Judkins, or.

[C]

Somebody who got hurt.

[B]

You probably have a better option. But just in case, this might be toilet.

[C]

Toilet bowl stuff.

[B]

That's actually way more important for people like me in the toilet bowl.

[C]

Right.

[A]

I will say, though, there are some gnarly teams in championships.

[C]

Like, if you really are just.

[A]

You ever go to your fantasy league and look at the championship?

[C]

Because obviously, how did this team finish second?

[A]

I don't get.

[B]

I don't know if that's. It's funny because it kind of mirrors the actual NFL season this year where, like, I think it's in my home league. Like, the fifth and the sixth seed are in the championship and the ringer league. It's like two teams that were six and eight are in the championship. These rosters that don't look deserving. It's very bizarre year. It's all over the place.

[A]

It really is. I'm sorry, I'm going to pull up just because Jackie, who beat me in a league and is now into the championship in a league we're in. Can I just read you some of the players in Jackie's team?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And Jackie's in the final and I'm looking at it. And her quarterback is Trevor Lawrence. Her running backs are Ashton Genty and Breeze Hall.

[C]

Interesting.

[B]

It's like a real. Really her.

[A]

What the.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Why do we do that? Why do we spend so much time.

[B]

On this dude in my home league? The guy who made the championship last week, started Quinn Ewers and won the game because he had Puka Nakua. Now he's in the championship. I'm going.

[C]

I'm going to a championship in one league and I'm starting Phil Rivers.

[A]

Super flex, though, right? Two quarters super flex.

[C]

Yeah, Super Flex would be clear, but still.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I mean, we're digging. We're digging in the bottom of a barrel here for quarterbacks in particular, but, yeah, it's unbelievable.

[A]

Anyway, I just. Just look at the championship team. Just stare at them. Sometimes it's like, oh, yeah. And sometimes you're like, I don't understand this. I. Like, I never could have picked this constellation of players even having watched the entire season. Okay, let's get to running back. Dk. If you actually have to pick and play a play, pick up and play a player this week, either for championship or toilet bowl.

[C]

So we running back. I don't. Don't know if we retired him last week. I think we talked about this. But Blake Corum, if he's still out there, I think has to be your number one choice. Do you guys want to Retire him and go to someone else.

[A]

Yeah, if Blake Corum's available, then without a doubt he would be the number one guy.

[B]

Yeah, we'll disqualify him.

[C]

I'll go with Michael Carter for the Cardinals again. Who? He's the lead back for the team. They're going up against the Bengals next week, which has been the worst against the running backs in fantasy this year. He is in a target or he's in a time split with Corey kiner and Amari DeMarcado. So he's not like getting all the carries but he is the lead guy for them. I think the Cardinals offense will be a little bit better this week than it was last week. You're just going to get more touches with him again. This is kind of like what we just what we just laid out like. Obviously not ideal if you have to start Michael Carter, but if you're in the toilet bowl, I think you go pick him up.

[B]

I did not go with him.

[C]

Who do you got?

[B]

It's bottom of the barrel here. I went with Chris Rodriguez for the commanders who was playing Dallas on Christmas.

[C]

That's another good one.

[B]

Yeah, he had 15 carries, like 65 yards and a touchdown last week. He is the starting running back playing Dallas who is beat up and not good against the run right now. And I would go with them.

[C]

I think that's fine. I'm okay with that.

[A]

I would go with Carter just because DK said lead back versus Bengals and I know the Cardinals aren't running a ton but I do think Cardinals Bengals will have a ton of points. Those are just two teams that are kind of mirrors of each other.

[B]

I just don't like that Michael Carter's whole thing was catching passes and now Amari D. Markado is back and now Michael Carter's not catching passes.

[C]

They do kind of have a weird delineation of duties.

[A]

Yeah, I don't like anything. I don't like that Josh Johnson's going to be the quarterback. Honestly, Craig, you know what my biggest issue with your pick is?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It goes against your principle. If you picked a game on Christmas, you're going to watch a third string quarterback, Josh Johnson on Christmas. You can ruin your whole goddamn holiday and be like, why did I choose to do this? I'd literally rather just have a guy on Sunday so I don't have to watch and have my entire Christmas weekend ruined because I played a guy on Christmas.

[B]

Yeah, now you get to to watch Bengals Cardinals and pray that that game goes well. That'll be fun.

[A]

I will say if Chris Rodriguez scores in Christmas. That's kind of nice.

[B]

True. The ultimate gift.

[A]

Yeah, Maybe it's Rodriguez. It's one of those two guys, though. I think there's a massive tear break after those two.

[B]

Yes. I debated, like, another guy, Emmanuel Wilson, who's the backup running back for Green Bay. Josh Jacobs is banged up. He fumbled in that. In that Bears game last week and then only played two offensive snaps after the fumble. But he's clearly not healthy, and he's playing through a knee and an ankle thing right now. Emmanuel Wilson looked pretty good. And LaFleur said that the reason why Emmanuel Wilson played more was not because he punished Jacobs for the fumble, but because Wilson just looked really good.

[A]

I also think sometimes those younger guys are better with the read option exchanges, like with Malik Willis. Suddenly, it's. It's like when Josh Jacobs was. Like, when was the last time I really had to do this a lot. You know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah. So I do think he's, like, kind of lingering as that next option.

[C]

So who should we. Who should we do the showdown with if it's you? Break the tie.

[A]

Yeah, it doesn't matter. I'll do Chris Rodriguez.

[C]

Yeah, dude, why don't you do Michael Rodriguez?

[B]

Michael Rodriguez.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

We can't not care that much.

[B]

It's not like whoever wins trivia gets to pick their guy.

[A]

You know it's true.

[B]

Sure, dude. I'm in shock. We're taking the senior Colts game. We're taping this during the Colts game. Philip Rivers cannot be stopped. Right.

[C]

He's out here. Old Man Rivers out here.

[A]

I need 80 points from McCaffrey and Jonathan Taylor.

[B]

McCaffrey scored.

[A]

I know. Texting me saying I'm gonna win, I'm like, it's right. I only need 71 more points from the combined.

[C]

So you have Taylor and McCaffrey.

[A]

Yeah. There's not even 50.

[B]

There aren't pass rushes within 10ft of Phil when he's throwing the ball because.

[A]

He'S getting rid of the ball in one and a half seconds.

[B]

Honestly, he's kind of throwing it down the field. They can't get near.

[C]

He is. He's pushing it.

[B]

And they can't get near any of the receivers either. It's like Josh Downs just open, like, 12 yards down the field in every pass anyway. All right, so we're gonna do Chris Rodriguez.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

All right. That means it is time for the Chris Rodriguez showdown. Time. And so this is the trivia. The trivia championship. It's really between. Heifers and I DK a little bit of spectator, but what's the score? Heifetz is in first with 18. I'm in second with 16, and DK has 10.

[A]

Wow.

[C]

I was robbed.

[B]

So I got to win. I have to win all three.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Or I guess I could win two and DK wins the other one.

[A]

If it gets uninteresting, then maybe we'll. Maybe we'll do a double or nothing at the end with the game that someone suggested. Okay, we have a. This is appropriate. That's Chris Rodriguez. So this is from Taylor.

[C]

T Bone Taylor.

[A]

Breakfast was three scrambled. Oh.

[C]

I like that.

[A]

Breakfast was three scrambled eggs, homemade breakfast, sausage, 175 grams of zero percent vanilla Greek yogurt. That's seen as someone's like, 175 grams. They're weighing their breakfast. Black coffee and a cool mint Zim.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Cool mint Zinn.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Protein.

[C]

Little.

[B]

Little buzz.

[C]

I like it.

[A]

Taylor.

[C]

People that listen to our show are maniacs for. For breakfast, aren't they?

[A]

Craig is a great window to people's minds.

[B]

I love it. I mean, they're emailing trivia on our week 17 trivia episode. These people, these are die hards here. They go hard every aspect of their life.

[A]

Taylor writes because DK mentioned that Josh Johnson. He was posting about how Josh Johnson will be in the NFL forever eight years ago. Taylor writes, how many entries are on Josh Johnson's Wikipedia page under the team history section? And for clarification, the same team counts twice if they signed him twice. So if a team signed him five times, that would be five entries.

[B]

How many. How many entries does he have?

[A]

Basically, it's like, how many times has he signed with a team? But it's like on ways. Wikipedia, but it's. How many times has Josh Johnson signed with the team? Even if it was, like, to the practice squad or whatever.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

Because we know he's been on. Can we say the number of the amount of teams he's been on? Because we said that yesterday.

[C]

I think that's, like, common knowledge because we said it Yesterday.

[B]

It was 14 teams.

[C]

14 teams.

[B]

Yeah, but.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah. We all knew that when we guessed and wrote one down earlier.

[C]

Yeah, well, you should have been listening to me, as I always say. All right, Craig, you got a number in mind?

[B]

Sure, sure. Yeah, whatever.

[A]

All right. 3, 2, 1.

[B]

24. Damn it.

[A]

I said way too many. I said 40, which was stupid.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

I was like, oh, well, high school and college and XFL or. And it was a Bad. It was a very bad guess.

[C]

All right, so what is it?

[A]

The answer is. What did you guys say again?

[C]

Craig said 24. I said 25.

[B]

TK's gonna get it.

[A]

Wow. The answer's 25 on the nose.

[B]

I needed that it up. Sorry, Greg. That was a winnable game right there. Craigslist.

[C]

Can I. Can I say something? I actually was on the Josh Johnson Wikipedia yesterday. I did not count for the record how many subconscious there were. But yeah, maybe I did sort of up there somewhere.

[B]

All right, I'm still alive. I'm still.

[A]

Hold on. While we're on Josh Johnson, we have to read another email here. This is from Sam.

[C]

Sammy S. Bone.

[A]

So do you remember what we was actually talking about in the show yesterday? Why we. We were saying how Josh Johnson was old, like a decade ago. We were talking about how he's like Clint Eastwood.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So Sam writes in, Josh Johnson and Clint Eastwood went to the same high school.

[B]

Stop, stop.

[C]

At the same time.

[B]

No fucking way, dude.

[C]

Where'd he go to high school?

[A]

The Oakland Tech, which also the alumni include Marshawn Lynch, Kirk Flood, Ricky Henderson, and the Muppeteer Frank Oz.

[C]

I want to say Marshawn lynch and Josh Johnson are either friends or related somehow. I want to say they might be cousins.

[A]

Well, they went to the same high school, so they probably played together. Isn't that crazy, though? Like, what are the odds of that?

[B]

Dude, Josh Johnson and Marshawn lynch are cousins.

[C]

Yeah, they're cousins.

[B]

Wait, and Clint Eastwood is their uncle.

[A]

He's their grand, great, great uncle. Oh, my God.

[B]

Wow. That's insane.

[A]

I know. What are the odds of that? All right, wide receivers, do you think.

[B]

Clint Eastwood has directed more movies than. Than teams Josh Johnson has signed with?

[C]

No.

[A]

Yeah. Oh, wait, he's been a director for 45 years, right?

[C]

25 stints.

[B]

I'm saying 25 movies because directing is different than starring. I'm saying. Do you think he's directed more than 25 movies?

[A]

I feel like I can name five.

[C]

I don't think he has. Okay, that's less than 25.

[A]

Well, I mean, you got a big.

[C]

Bridge to gap there, but is this.

[A]

Like Tom Brady one more suples and Payton in his 40s. Hasn't Clint Eastwood made five movies since he turned 80?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, the answer is, I would probably guess like 30, 35.

[A]

But this is like a classic pre Internet thing that would have been way more fun. And now I'm just going to look it up and I.

[B]

It's close. I bet Kind of. Maybe. I don't know.

[C]

What would I guess?

[A]

What did you say?

[B]

30 or 35 would be my guess.

[A]

The answer is he's directed. It's 45 on his IMDb.

[B]

45 directing movies.

[C]

He's 96. Starting to look like late stage Al Davis out here.

[B]

What's his skincare routine?

[A]

Sea monster. All right, wide receiver. Third time's the charm. Dk, you have to add a receiver. I think this is way more realistic than running back this week. If you had added receiver off waivers, play him in your lineup.

[C]

Parker Washington for the Jags would probably be my guess.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Six catches under 45 yards a touchdown. He looked awesome out there. He's only playing 55 of the snaps, so that is slightly worrisome. He's playing behind Jacoby Myers and Brian Thomas Jr. But I feel like Trevor just completely trusts this guy. He's really good after the catch. He's really useful. He's also a good returner. So in terms of the guys that are out there on waivers, if I want to start a guy this week, I'm probably going with Parker Washington. They're playing the Jags in Indy next, so it'll be in a dome.

[B]

They are the Jags.

[C]

Damn. Did Pierce just score another touchdown?

[B]

Yeah, he did. This is unbelievable. Old Man Rivers is cooking. Dude, it was third and goal from, like, the 15, and he converted that.

[C]

What in the world is going on here?

[B]

Like, oh, there's a flag that last weekend. And Philip Rivers is converting third and goals from the 15. Oh, flag. Oh, it's on the Niners.

[C]

Oh, it's all right.

[B]

No, no, it's on the Niners. It counts.

[C]

Unreal.

[A]

At some point, we'll have to talk about if he's, like, a little better than he was at the end of the first cold stint.

[C]

It's all the rest he got, man.

[A]

Just a smidge. He's rested. Yeah. Parker Washington's the answer receiver. He's probably. He's usually the best player on waivers. And if you had to play a flex guy, Craig is making a face like it's not Parker Washington.

[B]

No, no, I, I. That. That is the right call, but I. There's a little bit of, like, Trey Tucker syndrome to these guys, where it's like, they have the big week, and then we're like, add him. And in reality, he's like, the third option on the team. And the week before this, he had six points. The week before that, he had three. So it's like, you. You are kind of shooting fish in a barrel here. But I agree he's the best player there's. Like Luther Burden is banged up. I don't know if he's gonna play Jalen Coker. Kind of similar situation as Parker Washington.

[C]

Playing the Seahawks.

[B]

Playing the Seahawks. So I. I agree that Parker Washington is the choice. I'm not sure I agree with the fact that he's like a bankable flex. No matter.

[C]

Craig, what do you think about Adam Thielen?

[B]

No.

[C]

If. As long as we're talking about old men.

[B]

Yeah. Because the thing about the Steelers is they're not going to have DK Metcalf. They're also not going to have Calvin Austin on. He also left the game with a hamstring injury which is. I think we can. I think the tight ends will be more useful than the wise.

[A]

I think this Steelers genuinely might run multiple plays with three tight ends and two running backs.

[B]

I mean John who Smith is like a running back now has more carries than catches.

[A]

They're gonna have gain well outside at receiver. They just have Jalen Warren.

[C]

Actually that's true.

[B]

Two leading receiver on the team. Kenneth Gwell.

[A]

Dude. Between the jets and the Steelers this year at the receiving yardage. It's unbelievable. Jets. My smidgen chance to have no interceptions and no 400 yard receivers. Okay. So we're doing. We're doing Parker Washington shut on time here.

[B]

Yeah. Let's do it. All right. It is officially nutcrunch time for Craig and this. I have to win this or it's over. It is the Parker Washington showdown time.

[C]

Craig. Should I purposely lose? But that actually might make me be better at dk.

[A]

Why don't you just have fit? Why don't. Why don't you just not throw it?

[C]

Because I want to make it interesting.

[B]

Trust the process if it's meant to process.

[C]

Put my little thumb on the scale here if I can. That's actually what I've been doing the whole year.

[B]

I can't win like that. That's a coward's way out.

[A]

Watch. I'm glad DK admitted that. You don't want what is the beginning of the fantasy court intro.

[C]

Definitely don't want to tell anyone you're doing this thing or you don't want to get handcuffed.

[B]

Definitely don't tell anybody about this.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Don't.

[A]

Definitely don't tell him. Okay. So DK admitting that it's rigged. Okay, so here's the question. This is from Richard Rich.

[B]

Dick. Anybody seen Richie? Nobody gets that but me.

[C]

Steven.

[A]

I just pretend it's from the bear, but I know it's like still on or something. I'm like, yeah.

[C]

Seagal.

[A]

Seagal. Yes.

[B]

Dare you.

[A]

I know they're not inflate those two different guys. Okay, Dick writes, breakfast this morning was a spinach sausage quiche with coffee with almond milk.

[B]

I gotta say, sausage is more in play than I expected every morning for these folks. Did he mix?

[A]

I don't know if he made the quiche. He said a piece of a quiche.

[B]

Wait, can you. It was spinach sausage and what?

[A]

Quiche and then the coffee with almond milk.

[B]

I feel like that's a Starbucks order.

[A]

Probably.

[B]

Spinach sausage quiche. That sounds like those little bites they have.

[A]

Yeah, that's probably a good call. In honor of Farter Shart, a buttload is an actual unit of measurement.

[C]

What?

[A]

A buttload is a real unit of measurement.

[B]

According to who?

[A]

It's a real. It's a real fucking thing.

[B]

According to who?

[A]

I guessed. And then I looked up the answer and I'll explain it.

[C]

According to the hit hit group dude, perfect. They put it in their Wikipedia.

[B]

According to Sports Science, according to Dick.

[A]

A buttload is real.

[B]

All right, what unit of measurement are we guessing in?

[A]

A liquid.

[B]

Okay, I keep. But are we guessing in what?

[A]

How many gallon. The question is how many gallons is a buttload?

[B]

I didn't even. All right, so more than a gallon.

[A]

It's. You're guessing in gallons. How many gallons is a buttload?

[B]

How many gallons is a buttload?

[A]

How many gallons is a buttload?

[C]

There's a Tim and Eric skit called D Pants, and it's just short. That's short for diarrhea pants.

[B]

Oh, yes, I've seen that stick.

[A]

His favorite video on the Internet.

[C]

It's the funniest. It's actually. It's actually vile. But it is translucent. They're like see through, like. Like plastic. Anyway, I'm like, how many gallons are in the D pants? Is like how I'm picturing this.

[B]

This is weird.

[C]

Gallons.

[A]

How many gallons is a buttload?

[B]

All right, how about it?

[A]

All right. Three, two, one.

[B]

20.

[A]

You said two DK.

[C]

Yeah. Two.

[A]

Craig, by the skin of your teeth. I said 16.

[B]

Oh, God.

[A]

The answer is 126.

[C]

That's way too much.

[A]

126 AK 477 liters, AKA two hogsheads, which don't even get me started on the hogsheads.

[C]

What's a hog?

[A]

Two hogsheads is one buttload.

[C]

According to whom?

[A]

I'm so glad you asked. So in medieval England or medieval Europe, a butt was a cask. They used to hold giant quantities of wine or ale. Beer. Wine. It was like big ass barrels.

[C]

Wow.

[A]

It was called.

[C]

Okay, so this isn't some just like dorky Internet thing. This is real.

[B]

It's pretty dorky still.

[A]

I mean, we're talking about butts and buttloads. I mean, it's not. Not. But yeah. So a hogshead, which I feel like I've heard of more bars, but yeah. So two hogs heads, one butt. So a hog is a cheek.

[C]

Okay, so they. They used to store beer in a. In a butt.

[A]

In a butt. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Which are just barrels.

[A]

Cask.

[C]

Is that where butt came from? Like the word butt? Like the. They started looking at like two barrels and it's like, oh, that kind of.

[A]

Looks like cheeks, I guess.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

Kind of like we can start calling asses barrels. That's fun. Look at the barrel on her Cal.

[C]

Barrels.

[B]

Look at the barrels.

[A]

Yeah, look at them hogs heads. Okay, Craig gets Parker Washington. Who? He didn't.

[C]

Nice, Craig.

[A]

I feel like Craig's going to bail and take Luther Burton anyway.

[B]

No, no, I'm going to take Parker Burton's hurt.

[A]

I'll take. Yeah, he is. Fuck, this sucks. Part of me wants Craig joked about Trey Tucker. Part of me wants Trey Tucker versus the Giants just because the Giants can't guard anyone.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Part of me, I. I kind of. It's him or Kimir DK or Luther Bird.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Take Bird. I'm like, how hurt is Bird? I don't want to take an injured rookie.

[B]

No.

[C]

All right, so who are you taking?

[A]

Hey, man, I gotta play one of these. I'll take Trey Tucker. I hate the Giants cornerbacks with a fiery passion. I wouldn't. I don't know if I'd play him, though. Jalen Coker vs vs the Seahawks is probably a better answer. Even though it's the Seahawks, nobody wants.

[B]

To play Shamar dk. I'm going.

[C]

I'm going out on a limb here. I'm. I'm living my life dangerously and I'm taking Shimmer dk. Hell yeah. In honor of my name too.

[B]

Also, I saw a crazy stat about Shimmer dk. He is the fourth rookie in NFL history with at least four receiving touchdowns and multiple punt return touchdowns. Joe joining Tyree Kill, DEZ Bryant and Eddie Kennison.

[C]

Wow. Tez Bryant did that? That's interesting. Yeah, yeah, he's good, man. Also, I just think Kent Mort is playing a lot better than he was early on in the season.

[A]

So much better.

[C]

This is like a. This is less of a desperate. I think for. For like five or six weeks or seven weeks.

[A]

More.

[C]

Longer. We were just like. We're not going to recommend any Titans players because this offense is just not working whatsoever. But I think the offense has actually been a little bit better lately. So they play the Saints next weekend, close out the fantasy season. I just like DK because not, you know, in the past five games. Five targets. Five targets. Eight targets.

[A]

Four targets.

[C]

Seven targets. But he's a big part of this offense.

[B]

Speaking of buttload, I. His chair is squeaking like an old wooden ship.

[A]

Is it me? Is it my chair?

[C]

The diversity. The HMS Diversity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That thing's getting a buttload right now.

[A]

It's squeaking. Oh, yeah, sorry. There's noises between the orange light. There's squeaks. There's dog squeaks. There's. There's. I'm at Jackie's brothers for Christmas, so if there's sounds, there's sounds.

[B]

It does look like. Because you're in Pittsburgh, right? It does look like you're just surrounded by Pittsburgh Yellow. There's just like neon Pittsburgh signs.

[A]

Yeah, I just have terrible towels all over everything. Okay, wait.

[C]

High Fitz. You took Coker.

[B]

Quick sniff.

[A]

I guess. Him or Trick. Yeah, I guess Jalen Coker. I mean, this sucks.

[C]

You could take Matt Collins.

[A]

No, I want people to wear shoes.

[C]

You could take A.D. mitchell.

[A]

And I literally would rather lose than. Than root for Brady cook in week 17. Yeah. Of a football season.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Imagine depending on the New York jets and Brady Cook, who literally. What'd you say, Craig? That Garrett Wilson hasn't played since mid October and he leads the team in.

[B]

Receiving yards with like 385.

[A]

So I looked it up. Someone emailed. I. I sorry I didn't look it up. Someone else looked it up. I haven't had time to confirm it today, but I think the lowest receiving yardage leader in a modern era team is like 4:30 and the Ram. The jets seriously do have a shot at the lowest ever.

[B]

Yeah. Because Garrett Wilson's obviously hurt and Mason Taylor is next and he's hurt. Wow.

[A]

That's.

[C]

Who would it have to be Craig? Who's third? I don't know.

[B]

Who's. Is it Breeze Hall?

[A]

I'm looking it up right now. Can you imagine if the jets don't get an interception to become the first team to ever not have an interception this even. But on yardage?

[B]

332 yards receiving.

[A]

But that's not a given. He gets to 400.

[B]

No, no, because 430, he needs 100.

[A]

So Mason Taylor, 369 and the Breeze Hall. So 80. Mitchells 279. So he needs. I mean, dude, that's fucking crazy. Okay, that would be. That's man. Every time you think the jets can't get lower. All right, tight end. Speak of the devil. DK number one tight end. If you actually have to play one for week 17, which I hope nobody.

[C]

Does, I guess I'm gonna go with Taysom Hill, who just does a little bit of everything for the Saints. I don't. I don't understand. I don't know if they're gonna keep using him like they did or if this was just for fun this week, but Taysom Hill was freaking everywhere. He rushed the ball 12 times. He threw the ball first. He threw a 38 yard touchdown and he caught four passes for 36 yards. Like this was the Taysom Hill farewell tour game or something like that. It's like, you know, when a guy's getting close to retired, they're just like, go out there and shoot as many shots as you can. But yeah, Taysom Hill with Camara out, probably, I think Camara's already like in Cabo or something at this point.

[A]

He's drinking pina colada somewhere.

[C]

And Audrick Estimate, sorry, Devin Neal is already on ir Also, Alvin Camaro probably not coming back. Audrey Estimate is like the next guy up. But they really ended up just using Taysom Hill as like their starting running back in the this game. So, yeah, going to taste them. Hill. They're playing. Who are they playing? They're playing the Titans.

[B]

So the answer has to be taste Mill. It has to be.

[A]

There's no other way to go down.

[B]

No. Let's talk about upside. It has to be Taste Mill Classic. Four catches and 12 carries last week. It's 16 touches and that's not even.

[C]

Including him playing quarterback, God damn it.

[B]

And throwing baskets.

[A]

I love Taysom Hill. Taysum Hill is. Is maybe my favorite player that's been in the league since we've seen started doing the show.

[B]

Well, yeah, he's like the players. He's a modern day Cloy box. Like he's playing in the 1950s still. Okay. It is the final round of trivia. It is the Tum Hill showdown time. Let's do it.

[A]

All right, That's. That's what we call kismet right there. That is. That is not planned. That is not planned, Craig. That is, you know, some as Craig said earlier, sometimes, you know, you gotta believe sometimes the universe aligns.

[C]

By the way, I have my. My close box. I don't know if it's a rookie card or just football card behind me. Somebody gave that to me at a show in one of our live shows.

[B]

Yeah, I have my.

[C]

You have.

[A]

Everyone's. All right. You guys are lean on two things. No one's gonna believe this is real, but this is just. This is the universe. This is. They have DK Craig have no idea what's about to happen. But this. This email is from John.

[B]

His Cloy's here right now.

[A]

Like Michael Buble and Cloy and Lauren. I actually. So John's breakfast was a package of blueberry Velveeta Belvita and a black coffee.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait. Oh, the Belvita cookie.

[A]

Belvita.

[C]

I was Velveeta.

[B]

It was like, blueberry cheese. Interesting.

[C]

Anyway, wait, what's Belvita?

[B]

It's the cookies.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

No, they're not cookies. They're like breakfast bars. Breakfast everyone eats.

[A]

Belveda got really mad at you. But. So John's question is.

[B]

I mean, it's basically quick.

[A]

This email. I can't believe Cloy Box came out. You said you guys love Cloy Box.

[C]

True.

[A]

So as the final trivia email of the year, I chose how many receiving yards did Cloy Box have in his best game in the NFL? Well, wait, it's not a trick question. They literally wrote in the email, parentheses, not a trick question. He had, like, catches and yards, and.

[C]

It was after the forward, like a real thing.

[B]

Because he was an end and a running back. What was he?

[A]

Well, yeah, I mean, he played all 21 positions, plus, you know, kicker coach.

[C]

He was a hill. He was basically everything. Swiss Army 9.

[B]

So his highest receiving yard total in a single game.

[A]

Yeah, his career high in receiving in a game.

[B]

Not like.

[A]

Yeah, in a game. Yes. Sorry. The game. Man, I can't believe you guys tasted. I actually just picked this because I love close box that I did as the final one of the year, and I didn't think he would come up.

[B]

This is tricky. Did he take a screen pass to the house one day? I don't know.

[C]

Of course he did. I know what I'm picking.

[A]

3211 83.

[C]

I said.

[A]

I said 220 receiving yards.

[C]

Craig, here's the deal. We get tagged in so many Cloy spocks tweets because he's, like, up there with the most ridiculous numbers. I can't remember what it is, though, off the top of my head.

[A]

Yeah, close Box. The reason he came up was because he had the Lions record for, like, hundred, like, crazy games.

[B]

But I thought he. I didn't realize he was catching passes. I thought he was more of a running back.

[C]

I mean, he was doing it all. Okay, what's the answer?

[A]

The answer is 302.

[B]

302 and 2 receiving yards in a game.

[A]

Cl.

[C]

Cl is a legend.

[B]

What the.

[C]

See, this is Craig. We always get tagged in tweets because clo. Box comes up on broadcast when it's like the most receiving yards in a game. And Cloy Box is just.

[A]

Cloy box. 1950.

[C]

I guess way too Lloyd. 302 yards in a game.

[A]

Cloy. You think Craig. You think Cloys reeled in fern with under 300 receiving yards in a game?

[B]

I guess 53 yards in a game is not enough for Fern.

[C]

Fern's not getting out of bed in the morning for more than two. For less than 250 here.

[B]

All right, we. I need to investigate this game.

[C]

What was. What was Boyce Box's career high?

[A]

Boyce box was probably 52. Boy spox.

[C]

Did he play in the NFL?

[A]

Same good old Boyce. Oh, my God. His brother was Boyce or his father's son was.

[C]

His brother was.

[B]

Brother was Boyce.

[A]

Boyce and Boyce.

[C]

Boys.

[B]

Dude, I love that. Back then, how many points you scored was like a part of the stat. Like he. It was this game in December 3, 1950, he set a Detroit team record with 12 catches, 4 touchdowns, 24 points, 302 receiving yards, get the extra points.

[A]

He would score the touchdowns and kick the field goals.

[C]

They were using points back then. Oh, man.

[A]

302 receiving yards.

[B]

What is the record in the NFL?

[A]

I think it's 3:30. Who did that? That's a good question. It was. It was. Jimmy Smith crazily got close, but I think it's. It's some weird. It's. It's an old time.

[B]

It's Willie Flipper Anderson.

[C]

Of course. Flipper Anderson. Calvin Johnson was second.

[A]

You know, crazily got really close. I think I'm doing this right. I think Jimmy Smith on the Jaguars. I think if.

[C]

Yeah, he's seventh. He had 291, which is crazy. Flipper Anderson.

[A]

Flipper Anderson.

[B]

And Flipper was not that old. Flipper did that in, like, the 90s.

[A]

That. Calvin Johnson. Oh, Calvin Johnson's two with 329. If memory serves, he didn't even have that many touchdowns in that game.

[B]

Flipper did it 1989.

[C]

Yeah. Calvin Johnson did it in 2013.

[A]

Wait I'm looking at that Calvin game. You know what's funny about that Calvin game? He only had one touchdown, which has to be one of the most improbable things ever. The 379 yards and one touchdown.

[B]

I don't even know how you do that, man. I, I botched that for some reason. I didn't realize that Cloy was such a prominent receiving back. That guy was McAffrey.

[A]

See, you know why? It's because you're boxing him in, if you will. It's. You keep saying back. You're right, he's an end. Craig, how many times we have to go over this?

[B]

You're right. Honestly, I, I, his position, his position.

[C]

On Pro Football Reference is literally E.

[B]

Dash, B halfback and end.

[A]

End, all, be all, baby. Okay. So that would give me the trivia title. Yeah. Part of me wants to give you an out and pitch you on a game that someone suggested.

[B]

No. Well, we can maybe do the game. But you earned it. You won the title.

[A]

So I want you, I would like to win and do the game. That would actually be great. Thanks.

[B]

Well, wait, so you get taste of Mill. We have to keep going quickly. So, dk, you have the second pick.

[A]

Here.

[C]

Brenton Strange for the Jags. If he counts, he was 53 on Yahoo.% 53 roster on Yahoo. He might not be out there. He's 27 on ESPN though. So that's why I threw him in there. We'll just assume he's already rostered, but I'll go with A.J. barner for the Seahawks.

[B]

I'm gonna go with Pat Friarmouth, who I think is going to be more involved or I guess you can honestly go Darnell Washington.

[A]

All right. Part of me just thinks it's going to be Darnell. And also, you know What? It's week 17. Just have a live a little, man. Have a little fun. Have the 312 pound tight end left tackle.

[B]

The only thing about Darnell is Darnell's a little sloppy.

[C]

Darnell's kind of like it's all over the place.

[A]

He's a 24 year old who's 312 pounds. It's like, yeah, it's sorry. Beggars can't be sorry. He's not the largest and fastest person league and also just the most technical route runner. He's a left tackle.

[B]

Well, yeah, I feel like his like ball security is all over the place. He's always kind of, he's just falling down at all times, but you still.

[A]

Can'T tackle him there Was a play where he. Aiden, he is like an important down. And Aiden Hutchinson and he kind of handled him. He got a little chip from Jalen Warren. But I was watching him like, this is crazy that Darnell Washington is like kind of can blockade Dutchinson on third down.

[B]

I mean, I think he is by far the hardest person to tackle I've ever seen in my lifetime. Like, I. I think he destroys Derrick Henry in terms of how hard he is to tackle.

[A]

You know what I will say? I think my most old school football take is I love the Oklahoma drill and I wish it was part of the Pro bowl. And I kind of wish Derek Henry and Darnell Washington would run the Oklahoma drill.

[C]

That would just be like the Large Hadron collider or whatever. It's like the. The earth would just fold into itself into a new dimension.

[A]

Yeah. It's like, why do they need two miles to fire the particles? Like, just give me two of them.

[C]

That'll.

[A]

I'll do it at like, like ten minutes. Okay, so Taysom Hill and you're taking Frymouth. Did you take DK again?

[C]

I took AJ Barner.

[A]

Okay. And Bretton Strange, where would he rank among all these? If he's available, someone rage cuts him.

[B]

Probably after Taysom Hill.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. Court, if we're running through this quickly for quarterbacks, God, I hope no one has to do it. But if you need to, I think if Jordan Love misses this week, I feel like you have to do Malik Willis vs. The Ravens Just because Malik Willis could genuinely get 10, 12 + carries solely as a rusher. Malik Willis is boomer bust. But I mean, when he's filled it in the past, he's had 20, 25 points and he also has enough of a deep ball. It's like very risky. But again, also hurt. He has a shoulder injury that did happen late in the game and he kind of like shrugged it off. But I don't think they have a choice. I think that. Who's the third string quarterback? It's like, is it still. Is it still Sean Clifford, who's the third string for the Packers?

[B]

The backup quarterback is Chris.

[A]

A lot of that's crazy. Oh, dude. I don't think they have one on the roster. So I think Malik Willis is going to play unless Jordan Love. But again, Jordan love my play. Willis. I also just think Tyler Shuck versus the Titans. If Tyler Shucks available, like, Tyler Shuck's playing. Well, I. I've been mean to him this year.

[B]

Would you dare think about Geno Smith?

[A]

I would I Geno Smith hates the Giants because the Giants were gonna let playing Mike Ben Mack was going to play him instead of Eliman and Ben Shim and he was probably right and then the Giants didn't. So Geno Smith hates the Giants rightfully but you could I also part of me is like if the flamar misses time stup Huntley which maybe that's dumb but I'm like stupontly could also you know get you some rushing but that's kind of I would go Malik Willis Tyler if he played Tyler shuck Gina.

[C]

What about Phil Rivers after tonight's performance?

[B]

Right now there is nine minutes left in the second quarter and these quarterbacks have combined for five touchdowns.

[A]

I feel like this kind of Rivers game afterward it's kind of like he just disappears into a mist and is like, you guys got this now. And he just kind of goes away and everyone's like was that real?

[C]

I think he's signing for he's signing an extension baby.

[A]

River should do the new LeBron and just hold out until he gets to play with this guy.

[C]

Kids don't let him get anywhere near golf.

[A]

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[A]

Fences if we're being honest, this is the most important part of the show. If you're still playing Paige I would do horrible things to get the New England Patriots defense versus the jets this week. Brady Cook I mean jets have good special teams, but I mean you can't overstate. Variable versus the Jets. I would still take the Buccaneers defense versus Miami and Quinn Ewers. I know the Bucks have been struggling. I don't care. I don't believe in Quinn. Yours even if they start Zach Wilson don't believe in him either. I would do horrible things to get the Bucks Steelers if they're available, which I think they are kind of in leagues. The Steelers are playing the Browns and Shador. I know Watts out, but I feel like DJ Watts not playing. But I still. If Shador. They don't have Quinchon Judkins, which. We forgot to talk about this during the running back segment. My God. Woof. That Quinn Shaw. Judkins broke his leg. And the reason that we didn't have a running back for the Browns is that Dylan Sampson, the backup, is also hurt with his own hand. Also a little bit of a calf injury. So the Browns are going to. And then the third string of Jerome Ford is a shoulder injury. So it would be between like injured Dylan Sampson splitting time with the fourth string tray on Williams and then also Raheem Sanders, which, I mean, I. You're going to split the Browns running game two or three ways. And I'm like, I don't want to guess.

[C]

I think if Dylan Samson, you. You should pick up Dylan Sampson. And if he plays, he's a good option to play, but I. I think there's just no guarantee he's going to play this week.

[A]

Okay. And then the other defense is the packers, if they're available, which I think people did kind of cut them after Parsons, some people, if they're available, versus the Ravens and Tyler Huntley. I would especially because the Ravens have like a historic talent for just throwing the ball out. Like between Derek Henry, Mark Andrews and say, Flowers and Isaiah likely. It's a generational cannot hold on to the ball football team. It's like the. It's like the Heatles of not being able to hold on to a football.

[B]

Did you guys see that video of Isaiah likely walking out of the stadium? And then somebody's like, yelling a question at him and he just says back, we're straight ass. We're so ass.

[C]

You say that.

[A]

Oh, man, that'll be good. I should name my fantasy team that next year. We're so ass.

[B]

I don't know. Maybe that was AI. We're very close to just not being able to reference anything on the Internet.

[A]

But I think, you know what's crazy?

[B]

The.

[A]

Our kids are gonna think, like, the way our parents talk about. I don't know, that makes them sound old. We're talking about the era where you could just see a video and you're like, well, obviously this is real. I know for a 100 fact that this is real. That's gonna just be a Weird era. Yeah.

[B]

Austin says.

[C]

He said we ass as. We as.

[A]

As though that's a Nate waf.

[C]

We ass as.

[A]

We ass as. Oh, my God. Okay, couple emails and I want to run with this dumb game by you that we might cut.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

All right. John, on the Zachary's pass. The. The two point conversion. Yeah, some. John.

[C]

Johnny jbone.

[A]

John says, I'm a Rams fan, okay. And I thought they clearly made the right call. It was a backwards pass with a clear recovery. The part that was tilting was how long it took for them to begin reviewing the play. And if they had just started reviewing it right away, I don't think it would have been nearly as controversial.

[B]

Yeah, of course. I mean, the whole point of that is like, then the refs would look like they know what they're doing. If. If a rep immediately was like, oh, that was a backwards pass. We're gonna review that and see if it's a touchdown, because that's the rule. You'd be like, okay, this guy knows what's going on.

[C]

I maintained that it was also just extra weird because it was a two point conversion and people still don't really know what to do with two point conversion plays. They're. They're more common than they used to be, but they're still very weird in terms of. Just like we talked about this, like, half the. Half the plays that you. If you either look like you ran a really brilliant play or you fail at a two point conversion, it looks like the stupidest play call of all time. And that. And that was like, literally, truly when that, when that play happened on Thursday night, I even tweeted this. I was like, that play did not work. So I had time to like tweet out like a smarmy response before they started reviewing it. Then I got a whole bunch of people like, quote tweeting me like, oh, oh, like, oh, really? Or like, oh, maybe it actually did work or whatever. So, yeah, I think that's a great call. It did. It just did take a little bit too long. It's like one of those really late flags that comes in.

[A]

You're just like, okay, like the Lion Steelers final drive where all the. The flags started coming in twos like it was Noah's Ark.

[C]

Yeah, there's like the Jameson Williams play where he looked around at the refs for like six straight seconds. Then they finally threw some flags.

[A]

It was like a script. And they were just like, hey, line.

[B]

Oh, God, Sorry.

[C]

Where is my flag? Okay, there it is. Here it is.

[A]

All right, we got A lot more emails on this play, but I'll spare you guys.

[C]

That was very mature of you, J Bone.

[A]

This one's from Anthony.

[C]

A Bone.

[A]

Tony, when arguing about the Seahawks game, Danny Kelly made one comment that you ignored and DK said, it's like, no one knows the fucking rules. Bill Belichick would never. And Anthony writes that. That got me thinking that Bill Belichick should just return to the NFL, but he should be the live rules arbitrator in a war room with Scott Hansen, the red zone guy. And Belichick just pops up in the screens, old school, picture in picture, and then he just. Just makes it. He just decides what the call is. He's the art. He is the. He's like the Judge Judy for all of these replays. Just Bill Belichick. And he does it live.

[B]

He just comes in, he goes, yeah, they. They got that run wrong.

[A]

But instead of McCauley and Steritour, it's Belichick. But he's also making the decision.

[B]

I like that. The person. I want the person in the booth to be actually making the call on the field as well. I want that to be the same person.

[A]

I will say I. I have thought you were a little nuts for like two years now, being like, why is this person telling me that these people are wrong? However, I do think in 10 years that those people will just be making the decision.

[B]

They should be. They have the best vantage point. They have all the angles. Like, it should be.

[A]

The refs do, too. The problem is that the good refs leave to get paid by the networks because they're offering five or ten times more money. So the best ones left and the ones left behind are making the decisions.

[B]

It should be me.

[C]

Let's get you on the ballot.

[B]

It should be me. I get 99% of the time. I'm like, I got the call, dude.

[C]

You'll really be the most famous Craig then.

[A]

That.

[C]

That.

[A]

That is true. That's the path.

[B]

But the problem is, is they just need to give the power back to Terry. Let Terry make the call from the booth.

[A]

That is actually a better. I'm going to write that down. Okay. Another email here from Michael Mike. Subject line was just. Holidays are coming. The Coke ad. Watch, watch the wheels.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So the. Craig, just do the song.

[B]

Holidays are coming. Holidays are coming. Do, do, do. Always Coca Cola.

[A]

So Michael, whose breakfast was espresso and a croissant.

[C]

All right. I like that.

[A]

Smoking of crepe.

[C]

He just lives in Italy.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Maybe Paris or France.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Should have been My first guess, I mean, look, I went to France, I went to Italy, and they had a lot of that going on.

[B]

But also somebody who had an espresso and a pizza then.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Dominic de Coco. So Michael, Michael writes. So that nonsense ad from Coke is obviously, it's AI Slop. And if you watch all the different transport trucks, you'll notice extra fingers. That. Yeah, it's like. It is like fingers. The number of wheels on the trucks and trailers changes multiple times throughout each frame in the ad.

[B]

Really?

[A]

A Reddit post that has the configuration of what? Hold on, I'm sending this to you guys.

[C]

Why can't they edit that?

[A]

So I think, honestly, I think the answer is it's cheaper to just make it AI and they know that if there's mistakes, that actually it supports conversation about how it's AI and all they want is people to talk about the ad. So it's like, oh, I hate that Coca Cola with the AI. But then it's like people are mad about it. So that's what they wanted anyway, was to talk to about. Was to talk about it, which is what we're doing right now.

[C]

Why? Why can't I figure out the fingers thing? I don't understand that.

[A]

Because it's actually a hard problem.

[C]

Can you just plug it in? Like human beings have five fingers on each hand.

[A]

No, this is. Every animated show is like a thing anyway. It's hard to draw five fingers. It doesn't apply to animation. And so it's like that. That's why every animated show that people don't have five fingers.

[C]

It's hard to. Oh, okay.

[A]

Look up any. Pick an animated show, a lot of.

[C]

Turkeys, and they all have five fingers.

[A]

Literally. Pick Simpsons, Family Guy, Big mouth. Pick a show and like, look it up.

[C]

Craig didn't get that. You know how you trace your hand and it's a turkey.

[B]

Oh, of course. Yeah. No, I'm trying to think about why it's hard to draw five fingers.

[A]

Oh, yeah, well, hands are weird.

[C]

There's just too many of them.

[A]

You guys ever do.

[B]

No, I don't think as much as you do, apparently.

[A]

Squares. Anyway, look at this picture I just sent you. It's the configuration of all the different wheel configurations of the trucks. In the Coca Cola commercial where the wheels are over like 30 seconds, they have all these. And it's like the wheels move like eight times in this 30 second commercial.

[C]

Terrible. Wow.

[A]

That's all AI slop, baby. Welcome to the future.

[B]

This giant conglomerate is not. Is not what I thought they Were. That's a bummer.

[C]

They're not actually bringing the spirit of Christmas, Craig. It's ruined.

[A]

So I have a stupid idea that was emailed to us, and I think it's really funny. It was going to be my tiebreaker and I wrote. Someone emailed this to us months ago, and I wrote it down. I just, like, saved the idea. It was one of those, like, I didn't want to think about it too much because I would be accused of cheating, but I was like, that's good.

[C]

Tiebreaker.

[A]

I saved it for today's episode just in case we needed a tiebreaker and kind of want to do it anyway. And if it's dumb, we'll cut it. And the. So stupid. This is from Mike.

[B]

Mikey, Mike.

[A]

Mike says just listen to the. This is the Week 11 recap episode. He's just. Just listen. What if for trivia, you guys, instead of choosing a number, you just. In 60 seconds, the three of you, just see how many women you can name.

[C]

Name a woman. Name a woman.

[B]

Name a woman.

[C]

Sorry.

[A]

Name a woman. Name a woman. You can't name women you know personally, and you can't name athletes. And how many can you just name in a minute? And part of me was like, we should leave this chat. And like, some. We should go one at a time for 60 seconds. And whoever can name the most women just leaves, wins.

[B]

Wait, are we doing it as a team? Are we trying to name the most ourselves individually?

[A]

Maybe as a team? It would be funnier. We go in order 60 seconds, just name a woman.

[B]

Am I just writing them down, like, typing them?

[A]

No, that's funnier, actually. That's funnier if we go, 1, 2, 3. 1, 2, 3. And like.

[B]

Okay for 60 seconds.

[C]

So this has to be a famous woman.

[A]

Yeah, but you can't. No athletes. No people, you know, no athletes. No athletes. Because it's kind of the whole point.

[B]

Yeah, because you don't know any female athletes. Come on.

[C]

I don't. I don't even. I don't know any women. Let's see here. This is going to be.

[A]

I think the idea was men who just watch sports all day can't pretend they know women because they watch ESPN and they're like, Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese. Like, no, that doesn't fucking count.

[B]

Sure, sure, sure.

[C]

Christ.

[A]

Okay. All right, so we'll put 60 seconds on the clock. We're going to see if we can just name women. Okay, you guys ready?

[B]

What's the order? High fits me. Dk.

[A]

Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, we'll do Me. You. All right. Shall we?

[C]

Yeah, I'm already nervous.

[A]

Okay. Three, two, one.

[C]

All right.

[A]

Amelia Earhart.

[B]

Emma Stone.

[C]

Angela Bassett.

[A]

Angela Lena Jolie.

[B]

Michelle Obama.

[C]

Cindy Crawford.

[A]

Melania Trump.

[B]

Jennifer Lawrence.

[C]

Pamela Anderson.

[A]

Amy Poehler.

[B]

Sydney Sweeney.

[C]

Kathy Ireland.

[A]

So I'm just thinking about Sydney Sweeney. Oh, shit. Patti LaBelle.

[B]

Tina Fey.

[C]

Dakota Johnson. Why did you say.

[A]

I don't know. Why did I say Patti LaBelle?

[C]

I don't.

[A]

Where the did that come from? Queen Latifah.

[B]

Maya Rudolph.

[C]

Oh, crap.

[A]

Name a woman.

[C]

Name a woman. Hillary Clinton.

[D]

Any woman.

[C]

Dirty. Say that. What did you say?

[B]

Hillary Clinton.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Oh. Nancy Reagan.

[B]

Stevie Nicks.

[A]

Nice.

[C]

Tina Fey.

[B]

I already said Tina Fey. Damn it.

[A]

Oh. All right.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

Dude, that was pretty good. We know a lot of women.

[C]

Dude, we know so many women. It's crazy, man. I was trying to just think of, like, 90s swimsuit models that you guys wouldn't know.

[A]

Thanks.

[C]

That.

[A]

That. You know that. Really?

[B]

And you landed on Pamela Anderson.

[C]

Pamela Anderson. Kathy Ireland. Cindy Crawford.

[A]

I actually didn't even realize you were just naming swimsuit models.

[C]

I was like, God, dude. Oh, I didn't want to try. And I was trying to get ones that you guys wouldn't know, because I was like, you're gonna get me if I don't.

[B]

Dk, did you watch that Apple documentary called. I think it was called Supermodels, about the, like, the four iconic 90s female supermodels?

[C]

No, but now I want to.

[A]

I feel like we should have let dk. Who are they?

[C]

Who were they?

[B]

They were. Can you guess?

[C]

Guess which swimsuit models?

[A]

No.

[B]

No, I don't. They're, like, the foremost famous models that kind of, like, shaped culture in the 80s and 90s.

[C]

In the 90s. Okay. I don't really know. I would say Kathy Ireland. Cindy Crawford.

[B]

Cindy Crawford is one of them.

[C]

Kathy Ireland is not one of them.

[B]

Kathy Ireland is not.

[C]

Heidi Klum.

[B]

No. Good guess.

[A]

There's one I'm thinking of that has to be.

[C]

And panel. Anderson is not one of them. No, she's not really a swimsuit model. She was an actor. Swimsuit actor. Let's see here.

[B]

She did a lot of acting in swimsuits in Baywatch.

[A]

Plot.

[B]

Let's see.

[A]

Solving crimes. Lifeguard. Solving crimes.

[C]

I don't know. Adriana Lima.

[A]

I think it has to be.

[B]

Go. Hi, Fitz. Who do you think it has to be?

[A]

Tyra Banks.

[B]

No, she has the show.

[C]

Is this.

[B]

Tyra's? I think too young for that. It's. It's. It's Cindy Crawford, Naomi Campbell.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Christy Turlington.

[C]

Never would.

[A]

I should have never heard of her.

[B]

And Linda Evangelista. Dude, Christie's Hurlington is one of the more beautiful people I've ever seen in my life. I watched the first episode that Dr. Burlington. Yes.

[A]

She sounds like a Harry Potter character.

[B]

I was like, who the hell is this? Because I didn't know who that was either.

[C]

Was unfamiliar with your game.

[B]

1,000,000% one of the most beautiful people.

[C]

So she was born in 69. So I. Yeah, I don't know. I think that was like a little before me, but. But yeah.

[A]

Is it bad that the name a woman game ended up us talking about swimsuit models? Is that bad?

[C]

Well, that's my fault.

[A]

It's like, let me prove the track.

[C]

I was going on.

[B]

It is funny how quickly I ran out. I was like Emma Stone.

[A]

Oh, is it bad that it's like the entire list was first ladies, SNL and si. Swimsuit covers.

[B]

Not to be mean, but, like, where. I mean, naming movie actors and politicians. Where else do you go?

[A]

I.

[C]

For the record, I think I would be really bad at this game if we were like, naming baseball players too. Just because it's like the pressure to think of somebody quickly brain turns off.

[A]

That's not true. Baseball go.

[C]

No. I've heard we've done this before. And I was like, really bad at it. Jeff Bagwell, Mark ellis, Ken Griffey Jr. Eric Gagye, Juan Uribe, Joey Cora, Luis Ortiz, Eric Chavez, Juan and Carnacion. Mark Muller, Chuck Knobloch, Mark Mulder, Barry Zito, John Maddox. Do we see that?

[A]

Tim Lincecombe.

[C]

Tim. Oh, the freak dude.

[A]

He couldn't get to a game once because they thought he was a kid trying to sneak in.

[C]

Like, buddy, get out of here.

[A]

16. He's like, I'm starting today. They're like, yeah, right, kid.

[C]

Are we still going?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Mark McLemore.

[B]

No. Now. Now, do female baseball players.

[C]

The. The.

[A]

Who's in the movie?

[C]

Burn Box.

[A]

Madonna.

[B]

Nice. Gina Davis.

[C]

Damn it.

[A]

Monet. Davis. Yeah.

[C]

I don't know. I don't know anymore.

[B]

That was fun.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

We did that.

[B]

Rosie o'. Donnell.

[C]

Oh, yeah, that movie. Great call.

[A]

Yeah. Okay. All right. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you to all the women listening who we insulted. Thank you to Tyra Banks. And thank you to It's My Fault. Hurlington.

[B]

Christy Turlington.

[A]

Shout out, Tim. Lindsay. Shout out. Edson, Edison Voquez. Everyone helped me win the title. Baseball 09. Thank you. Oh, God. Thank you, Cam. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everyone, for listening. And then. Yeah, well, one more episode for you guys that's going to come out either Tuesday night or Wednesday morning. And then. Yeah, Merry Christmas. We're not going to have a Friday preview because it's Christmas, but we will have, like, a big fat Wednesday episode for you guys and yeah, of course. Thank you, Lord.

[C]

Lord. Thank you, Daddy Yankee.

[B]

Oh, I think we've done Daddy Yankee.

[A]

Gasoline is wild.

[C]

We've done everybody at this point.

[B]

Well, that's your job. Keep it fresh.

[A]

Gasolina was sick, though. I don't know those lyrics. Making it to, like, now that's what I call music. Eight was, like, kind of crazy because you had all these, like, white 7 year olds being like, Gasolina. And then you, like, learn what the lyrics are. You're like, whoa.

[B]

Oh, I don't know what the lyrics are.

[C]

Give me that. Gasolina. Yep. What's Gasolina referring to exactly?

[A]

Petroleum? No, it's something else.

[C]

What? Yeah, exactly. Tell me what it is.

[A]

Oh, I want.

[C]

Okay, I'll look it up.

[B]

Is it bad that to me, it's not. It's not blatantly obvious what Gasolina is referencing.

[A]

It's probably good.

[C]

I could guess probably within three tries, maybe.

[B]

But I don't know if that's the.

[A]

One you're thinking of.

[B]

Did you. Did you translate the lyrics?

[A]

Did I translate the lyrics?

[B]

Yeah, like, how do you know what he's talking about? It's in Spanish. Did you translate it?

[A]

People who speak Spanish told me.

[B]

Okay, I feel like that's less likely.

[A]

Than you just translating it, but that's less likely that. Oh, okay.

[B]

I feel like it's a lot easier to just Google that than to find.

[A]

Well, it never occurred to me until I was informed.

[B]

Fair. You were a young man, 12 years old, skipping down the street singing Gasolina, and somebody comes up to you, he's like, buddy, you know what that guy's singing about?

[A]

Oh, here, play the mama so my girls can rev their engines. Oh, get. Yo. All right, now. Now I get it.

[C]

What now?

[A]

Like, the engine part really brings the whole thing into kind of like it makes more sense.

[B]

Oil.

[A]

Yes, exactly. Engines need oil, petrol and gasoline.

[C]

Got it.

[A]

Merry Christmas.

[C]

Oh, God.

[A]

Goodbye, everyone.