Week 4 Recap From Ireland: Steelers Get the Dub(lin), Mahomes Is Back, Giants Light Up a Dart, and Week 5 Waivers

Summary

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Episode: Week 4 Recap From Ireland: Steelers Get the Dub(lin), Mahomes Is Back, Giants Light Up a Dart, and Week 5 Waivers
Date: September 29, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Location: Dublin, Ireland

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting live from Dublin after an epic Steelers-Vikings matchup, Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck recap Week 4’s NFL action with their signature blend of insight and humor. They break down key games, argue over fantasy winners and losers, lament injuries (Malik Nabers, ouch), and offer quick-hit waiver advice for Week 5—since the usual Monday episode is preempted by travel. The show’s energy is unmistakably buoyed by the Ireland trip, with the crew riffing on in-stadium vibes, Irish pints, pop culture moments, and classic ‘Ringer’ segments like “It’s So Over/We’re So Back.”
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Steelers 24, Vikings 21 — Live From Dublin!

Timestamps: [02:00]–[16:00]

• Atmosphere: The first-ever NFL game in Dublin delivered a tight, entertaining contest. The Steelers pulled out a 24-21 win, dominating the trenches—much to the delight of a wildly energetic Irish crowd, “maybe even louder than Pittsburgh” ([14:36], Danny Kelly paraphrasing Patrick Queen).

• Defensive Line Domination: Both teams’ D-lines overwhelmed battered O-lines, especially after the Vikings lost RT Brian O’Neill (early 1st Q) and C Ryan Kelly (early 3rd Q, possible second concussion in three weeks).

  “When Ryan Kelly went out, everything changed… All the D-tackles for the Steelers just started crowd[ing]. Wentz was getting tipped. TJ Watt tipped an interception—like, it just started to get messy.” — Danny Kelly [06:23]

• Vikings Offense in Disarray: Endless 3rd-and-longs led to sacks, incompletions, and turnovers.

  “These are how the Vikings drives ended. On third down:…third and nine sack, third and thirteen sack, third and eight interception…you can’t live that way.” — Dana Heifetz [07:01]

• Turnover Luck: Steelers continue their “absurd” turnover margin streak—27 points off turnovers scored, 0 allowed.

  “I think you could call it luck because of how many positive turnover EPA they have every single week. And it happened again today.” — Danny Kelly [07:28]

• NFL’s Rule Obscurity: The crowd (many NFL newcomers) was left scratching heads after moments like a Jalen Ramsey fumble-TD return (negated due to a player being OOB touching the ball), intentional grounding, and the scoreboard flipping the down. Ireland experienced the NFL’s “esoteric rules” ([08:10]).

• Endgame & Coaching Gaffes:

  • Tomlin’s bold 4th-and-goal call (“so out of character”), the Addison 81-yard catch (saved by a TD-saving tackle), and back-to-back questionable 4th-down decisions.

  “Tomlin kind of did the worst of both worlds. You should have took the field goal at the three yard line, but now at fourth and half a yard…now you go for it, the game’s over.” — Dana Heifetz [13:23]

• Crowd Highlights: Steelers fans traveled en masse (“30 or 40,000 had Terrible Towels”), and an a cappella “Zombie” (by The Cranberries) rendition during a TV timeout brought the house down ([15:14]).

• Star Performers: Steelers’ D, Rodgers playing sharp, TJ Watt’s tip-INT and “attempted” souvenir kick, and running back Jay Warren (a surprise inactive, which caused fantasy chaos).

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Around Week 4: Winners, Losers & Big Storylines

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Chiefs 37, Ravens 20

Timestamps: [21:01]–[24:26]

• Chiefs Back On Track: Mahomes (4 TDs; first since Oct. 2023), Xavier Worthy’s breakout speed (led team in rushing and receiving), and the offense suddenly humming.

  “My intrusive thought was—the last 7–14 days was the best Super Bowl odds you'll ever get for the Chiefs for the next 8–9 years.” — Dana Heifetz [22:43]

• Ravens Woes: Injuries, especially to Lamar Jackson (hamstring), and the defense (down 6 starters, 3 straight blowout losses to playoff teams), combine for dark “vibes” in Baltimore.

  “The Ravens have gone from literal Super Bowl favorites a couple weeks ago...to are they a wild card team?” — Danny Kelly [24:24]

• Derrick Henry Discussion: Concern growing as he’s under 50 yards rushing for the third time already this year ([24:59]).

Giants 21, Chargers 18

Timestamps: [29:57]–[38:13]

• Jackson Dart Era Begins: Rookie QB Jackson Dart electrifies in his debut—poised passing, effective running, confidence befitting a 10-year vet.

  “He looked so confident. Borderline cocky—even in the interview after the game. He sat down [and said]...’Hey, shout out Russell Wilson, man, probably a tough week for him, but he took it like a champ.’” — Danny Kelly [31:20]

• Malik Nabers’ Heartbreaking Injury: Star WR goes down with a non-contact ACL in the first quarter, just as the Dart-to-Nabers connection finally forms.

  “Neighbors got three full drives together...[now] it’s like, is neighbors going to be full strength for next season?" — Dana Heifetz [36:57]

• Dart’s Playing Style: Strong runner (“powerful...good acceleration”), taking some reckless hits (“don’t punch someone in the helmet with your throwing hand—don’t be that guy”).

  “He just doesn’t realize the gravity of the situation he’s in—which is kind of an essential quality...” — Craig Horlbeck [34:36]

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Texans 26, Titans 0 – How Low Can Tennessee Go?

Timestamps: [38:28]–[43:13]

• Rock Bottom Titans: Only 3 touchdowns (dead last), 7 red zone trips out of 44 drives (by FAR the NFL’s worst rate), and no red zone trips in this game.

  “The only quarterback in the league averaging fewer fantasy points than Cam Ward through four weeks is Joe Flacco, who had negative points today.” — Craig Horlbeck [41:35]

• Texans “Revival”? Not so fast – game was 6-0 entering the 4th. Woody Marks (rookie RB) was the lone bright spot (see Waivers below).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Ireland NFL Experience:

  “There was a lot of players—a lot of the post-game pressers—Patrick Queen, straight up: he was like, no offense, but this was a better crowd than Pittsburgh.” — Danny Kelly [14:36]

• On the Steelerness of the Steelers:

  “Once again, the Steelers win because they get turnovers and then they don’t turn over the ball." — Danny Kelly [07:28]

• On QB Jackson Dart’s Swagger:

  “I gotta say, I'm so sucked in by Dart. …Dart being into the Anakin Skywalker thing—it's only lame if he loses, it's sick if you win.” — Dana Heifetz [31:31]

• On Injuries and Fantasy Angst:

  “If you have Nabers on your fantasy team, it's a black hole of agony.” — Dana Heifetz [36:34]

• On Derrick Henry’s “Dictator Toppling” Statuesque Running:

  “We always joke Derrick Henry kind of looks like a statue of a dictator toppling in a square if he gets hit early.” — Dana Heifetz [27:14]

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It’s So Over / We’re So Back

Timestamps: [45:12]–[56:35]

• Ashton Jeanty’s Wild Ride: Fumbled early, nearly rage-benched by listeners, then exploded with 23 touches for 155 yards and 3 TDs; changed his stance back to “Michael Myers creepy psycho killer" and dominated.

  “Look good, feel good, play good.” — Craig Horlbeck [49:16] “He looks like someone just told him that dinosaurs can’t see movement.” — Dana Heifetz [49:10]

• Marion Hampton Ascends: With Najee Harris out for the season, Hampton is now RB1 and running like a mix of Saquon and Marshawn Lynch ([52:56–54:08]).

• Bucky Irving, Puka Nacua, Woody Marks, and Others:

  • Bucky Irving: “If Bucky Irving had Doritos on his heels, they’d never break.” — quoted from Tom Brady ([62:26])
  • Puka Nacua: WR1 on the season and the week, likened to Cooper Kupp—“goes full Cooper Kupp, the whole offense revolves around him.” — Danny Kelly [65:17]
  • Woody Marks: Emergent Texans RB, “clearly the best running back on the Texans” — Danny Kelly [66:30]

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Classic Ringer Segments

Fart or Shart?

Timestamps: [67:44]–[72:17]

• A.J. Brown (Eagles):
  • “This man has two games this year with one point. He’s unstartable, one of the worst WRs in fantasy right now.” — Danny Kelly [68:29]
  • “What did he eat? Tell him. Look at me and tell me why this is happening.” — Danny Kelly [69:01]
  • “He sharted.” — Craig Horlbeck [71:44]

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Waivers & Quick-Hit Fantasy Advice

Timestamps: [97:35]–[103:15]

Running Back Priorities

• Woody Marks (Texans): Heavy usage; “if he’s available, go get him” ([97:35])
• Justice Hill (Ravens): Clear flex-worthy if Derrick Henry misses any time
• Kendre Miller (Saints): Flashes as Kamara looks sluggish

Wide Receiver

• Romeo Doubs (Packers): Two touchdowns on SNF, but Packers are on bye (note: factor this into waiver strategy)
• Giants WRs: With Nabers out, Darius Slayton (“[will] be way better than people think”—Heifetz) and Wondale Robinson (if still available)

Tight End

• Brenton Strange (Jaguars): Steady usage, viable streamer
• Jake Tonjes/Aranda Gadsden: Only if desperate

Defense

• Browns D: Facing undermanned Vikings in London—Carson Wentz as a target, plus potentially backup center/tackles ([103:14])
• Giants D: Facing Saints, “Dart vs. Rattler” could get ugly

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Intrusive Thoughts & Debates

• On A.J. Brown’s Mentality:

  “I have never heard anyone say ‘I felt nothing’ about winning a Super Bowl… A.J. Brown described after [winning]: ‘I felt nothing.’”—Dana Heifetz [81:29]

• Would You Take 200 Yards in a Losing Super Bowl, or Zero Catches and a Win?

  “If I'm a receiver…the options are: I have 210 yards and 3 TDs and we lose by three, or we win the Super Bowl and I have zero catches—I honestly think I might take the former.” — Danny Kelly [82:06]

• On Quentin Johnston:

  “We have to listen to what Justin Herbert is telling us. …He’s a top five receiver in fantasy football. You got him outside the top 100.” — Dana Heifetz [79:21, paraphrased]

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Memorable Irish Anecdotes

Timestamps: [17:03]–[20:27]

• Celebrity Sightings: Bill Murray (!) and Jason Kelce spotted on the sidelines; Heifetz gets Murray’s pub take (“I kept spilling my Guinness on myself, so they kept refilling it” [19:15]).
• Crowd Culture: Terrible Towels, mass singalong of “Zombie” by The Cranberries, and visiting Irish pubs get shout-outs in banter with Kelce and Bill Murray.

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Awards (Play/Nightmare Play of the Day, Coach/Ref Rants)

Timestamps: [85:10]–[90:32]

• Play of the Day: A.D. Mitchell’s 70-yard catch that he fumbled before crossing the goal line—“the best and worst play of the day” ([85:11]).

• Coach/Ref Rant: Why does the NFL not have fixed goal line cameras in every game? Group agrees “it makes too much sense” ([90:32]).

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Burn Book

Timestamps: [94:11]–[96:53]

• A.J. Brown (recap of futility): Candidates for “Burn Book,” joining previous weeks’ Waddle, Andrews, Pacheco.
• Consensus: Can’t drop him, but can’t trust him until something changes.

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Waivers: Essential Add List

Timestamps: [97:32]–[103:15]

RB:

• Woody Marks
• Justice Hill
• Kendre Miller
• Kenneth Gainwell (if available; Jaylen Warren injury notes)

WR:

• Romeo Doubs
• Darius Slayton
• Wondale Robinson

TE:

• Brenton Strange

DEF:

• Browns (vs. depleted Vikings)
• Giants (vs. Saints)

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Other Notables

• Bad Bunny announced as Super Bowl halftime show (not Taylor Swift)—DK wins the “prediction” sweepstakes ([105:28]–[106:33])
• Pop Culture: The crew discuss sourdough Easter eggs, halftime show rumors, and Taylor Swift’s purported Super Bowl negotiations ([108:36]–[114:27])
• Irish travel energy—loopy, fun, and tinged with sleep deprivation.

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TL;DR — Episode Takeaways

Games:

• Steelers’ defensive line, turnover mastery
• Chiefs’ offense “back,” Ravens spiraling
• Giants rookie QB Dart shows promise but loses Nabers to ACL
• Titans/Texans: Tennessee among NFL’s bleakest Fantasy:
• Jeanty, Hampton, Woody Marks, and Bucky Irving are key RB risers
• A.J. Brown and Calvin Ridley in “trust fall” territory
• Waivers: Barren at WR/TE, but RB is where you find gold this week

Vibes:
This one’s for international NFL fans—stadium pulse, pop culture crossover, Guinness vs. Murphy’s, and Ireland’s best pubs.

Sample Quote:
“Look good, feel good, play good.” — Craig Horlbeck on Ashton Jeanty [49:16]

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(For awards, segments, and debates, see section headings and timestamps above. For waivers, refer to the concise cheat-sheet near the end.)

Transcript

[Dana Heifetz]

Foreign welcome to the regular fantasy football show. My name is Dana Heifetz and I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Korolbeck. And we are live in Dublin, Ireland. I think I just blew out the mic with how loud I did this. Carlos wasn't prepared for that. This is our last recording of our time in Ireland. We have another recording we already did that we're going to publish later this week on Wednesday. So if you want to hear more about our trip in Ireland and Dublin, all the amazing time we had in Ireland, Wednesday Power hour. We're going to have a ton of that. We had an amazing time here. We're going to, I mean went to Viking Steelers today. We're going to tell you all about that. It was a great game, honestly. Thank God. It was a great game. And then you were going to go through all the other games we were able to see here, which was fun. Packers, Cowboys, to be totally honest with you, is started at 1:20 in the morning and we couldn't wait till 4 to record. So we're gonna have that on throughout this show.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, so we'll be discussing it. We didn't quite finish the game but we were discussing it throughout the episode.

[Dana Heifetz]

So if Micah Parsons like ended the game by strip sacking Dak Prescott, like, we apologize. But we're probably into the show before that. Also for waivers. We're not gonna have a Monday episode this week because we're flying back from Dublin. So waivers we'll get to at the end of the show. We kind of just grip it and rip it through. Running back, receiver, tight end, defense that's trying to help you, but obviously there's money football games still to come. But yeah, we in slew of a Monday waiver episode. We do. We did just want to give you our idea of like who we think we'd pick and we hashed out together. So yeah, with that said, this is fun and loopy. So TK and Craig actually got into it a little bit, which usually only happens to me. So that's fun. Thank you everyone. And yeah, no, I don't remember. What did we even talk about? I don't remember.

[Danny Kelly]

We'll have to see. We'll have to find out myself.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I thought. I was actually very happy for the. The people from Ireland who attended this game maybe who were just kind of dipping their toe in the NFL water because not only was it a good game, it was close at the end, but there was a lot of like big fun, exciting plays. Like the DK Metcalf 80 yard touchdown, like the slant of the house. You don't see that a lot. Even the Jalen Ramsey fumble return for touchdown that ended up getting overturned in the moment when it felt real. That was a huge deal. It was like right at the beginning.

[Dana Heifetz]

Of the game, hamstring injury like mine. And then he did the gritty Justin Jefferson and the Vikings and then he.

[Danny Kelly]

Hurt his hamstring later that game.

[Dana Heifetz]

Which is kind this. You're tempting the football gods when you fake an injury in football. But you're right, it was really exciting. It was actually a ton of plays.

[Danny Kelly]

A lot of exciting stuff. There's like interceptions, there's turnovers. Like it was, it was a great game. Rogers played well. It kind of had every, every beat except for a while there it looked like it was going to be a little bit of a blowout. And then the final four minutes of the game, both coaches I think had too many Guinnesses and things got super wonky.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, yeah, the joke was like maybe Goodell phoned down to the sidelines during the game. He's like, all right, come on guys, let's, let's.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's like the Steelers Wild Wings button.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Totally.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think overall, I think both teams had a really huge advantage on the defensive line over the offensive line in both games. And I think you saw that where both game plans for Vikings and Steelers alike was basically a lot of high percentage completion to the point where such high percentage passes that there was not really an incompletion for 25 minutes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It was like a point in the late second quarter and there five minutes.

[Dana Heifetz]

Left in the second quarter was the first time a ball hit the ground.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yes, I think, I think I saw that Aaron Rogers his adot in this game. So average depth of target was like 2 yards.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was getting rid of the ball really quickly. And guess what? It actually did pretty good job of neutralizing the pass.

[Dana Heifetz]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I actually like using DK Metcalf as like a. Like the way the Eagles use Dallas Goddard. Just like get him the ball quickly and let him pick up speed.

[Craig Korolbeck]

When he, when he started running the crowd, you could like hear the crowd, the, the roar of the crowd like rise up the stadium. It was actually very.

[Danny Kelly]

People in Ireland are like who is that? Is that a robo C?

[Dana Heifetz]

It was like. It was like the car running like moe's from the office. DK Metcalf down the sideline when he.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Gets, when he gets like churning. It's not even.

[Danny Kelly]

You miss him a little bit when you see that.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, definitely. Big time. Big time.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Should be noted that the Vikings lost two of their starters.

[Danny Kelly]

They lost a tackle and their center.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's the thing. So Brian, so Christian Dara saw the left tackles came back from injury and then obviously when the Vikings lost on Sunday football, the Falcons a couple weeks ago, the offensive line was a huge issue. It happened again in this game. The Vikings lost Brian o' Neal at right tackle very early in the game. Like I think the first or second drive and then it was on a.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Kick, it was on a special teams.

[Dana Heifetz]

Play and so that Andrew Thomas for the Giants got hurt. When your left tackle gets hurt in a special teams, it's the worst.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

But the Vikings lost Ryan Kelly at center very early in the third quarter to concussion and he had a couple concussion a couple weeks ago. So that's bad to get two concussions. Three weeks potentially if he did have one. But when Ryan Kelly went out, everything changed and Just, yeah, the center of.

[Danny Kelly]

The line like Keanu Ben. All the D tackles for the Steelers just started crowd Wentz. Wentz was getting tipped. TJ Watt tipped an interception like it just started to get messy.

[Dana Heifetz]

Nick Herbig for the Steelers leads the NFL and pass rush win rate at espn, which I don't love. That's that for everything, but that's pretty incredible. And I will, I do think, if I did summarize the whole game into one sentence of just or not sentence. But just like one stat that I think captures everything about what happened here until the crazy ending. These are how the Vikings drives ended. On third down. The first drive, they went and got a field goal. And then after that, it ended with Carson Wentz. Third and nine sack, third and 13 sack, third and eight interception. Third and 12 incomplete. Third and 11 sack, third and 16 interception, 39 sack.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You can't live that way. I mean, third and long is exactly when the pass rush knows that it's going to be a pass and they can just load up.

[Dana Heifetz]

And yeah, the Vikings just. This is when the cliche of NFL coaches saying, we have to stay on schedule. What that means is we need enough yards to not be in third and long for TJ Watt to fuck our shit up.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Third nine, turn 10, turn 11. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

And once again, the Steelers win because they get turnovers and then they don't turn over the ball. I. We were talking about the. The preview show with Greg Rosenthal. The Steelers have 27 points off turnovers. So far this year. They have allowed zero points off turnovers. The same happened like they have the most ridiculous. You could, I think, call it luck because of how many positive turnover like EPA they have every single week. And it happened again today.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It felt like the Steelers dominated this game for most of the game and then at the end it got close. But also, like, when you factor in one of the first plays of the game was a fumble that Jalen Ramsey took back for a touchdown and ended up getting called back because, yeah, Jordan Mason had like a foot out of bounds and he touched the football or whatever.

[Danny Kelly]

I will say the other note I have for. For probably for people, if that was their first NFL game, there was a lot of, like, confusing.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Esoteric NFL rules. I think. Like the Jalen Ramsey fumble return, I think everybody was like, why did that not count? And it was like Jordan Mason fumbled it, but then as he was trying to recover it, his foot was out of bounds. So while he was touching the ball, his foot was out. So it doesn't.

[Dana Heifetz]

I I think I realized like that happening in the context of all these other fans realizing that other sports don't have the amount of ways the NFL could undo a big play. Like in. In soccer. I'm. Maybe I'm wrong and maybe people are going to scream at me. It's kind of just offsides. It's kind of just like a V. Offsides are handball, like fouls or fouls. But like offsides, handball are the only thing they're going to get. Granular review. There's so many things the NFL can review to take away a big play.

[Danny Kelly]

There was like the went intentional grounding. I'm sure people are like, what the hell happened there? He got sacked. And then why are they moving back 15 yards? There was also a moment where they got the down wrong scoreboard that said third down. It was actually fourth.

[Dana Heifetz]

We'll talk about this. This happened to us at the hurling match yesterday. And then today we were like, oh, yeah, they don't even have a scoreboard all the time. Then the NFL game, we're like, this is. Yeah. I mean, Carson Wentz looked at the scoreboard. He was. He was pointing at the scoreboard like his third down. It was like, no, Carson's fourth down.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, but I will say on the sideline, they had the fourth down showing though.

[Dana Heifetz]

But it's worth. Yeah, but it's worth getting to the ending of the game because really, to Craig's point, it looked like the STE was going to run away with this. And it really looked like that when the Steelers were in the red zone and they were up 7 and. Or sorry. No, they were up 10. I apologize.

[Danny Kelly]

They were up 10.

[Dana Heifetz]

They were up 10 and they looked like they were going to kind of march it and score. And then Tomlin got to a really pivotal moment which. And I want to go through this sequence, but basically what happens is Aaron Rodgers has been second and goal at the 11 yard line. Ben Rodgers has been skoronic at the end zone for a touchdown. And he just kind of misses the throw. And he was so. We saw. He was so angry that he misses.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he was like cursing to himself.

[Dana Heifetz]

Then they get eight yard pass and they get to fourth and goal at the three of the three. Fourth and goal at the three is three in the box where it was two.

[Danny Kelly]

Yep.

[Dana Heifetz]

And they kind of come off the field and Rogers, there's like an exchange. Boswell kind of runs on and Roger. And then there's timeout. And then I don't know. Yeah, they took a timeout. Did they yes, Sorry. Minnesota took the timeout to save time and they take advantage of it. And I don't know if. I don't know what came out after the game, but like, if Rogers convince Tomlin or what, the Steelers send their offense back out, which we question that.

[Danny Kelly]

How much time was left? Around 4 minutes.

[Dana Heifetz]

So it was exactly 4 minutes and 14 seconds left.

[Danny Kelly]

And we're kind of like, our thinking was like, so they're up 10. If you kick the field goal here, you're up 13. I know. That's like going from up two scores to still up two scores.

[Dana Heifetz]

Touchdown ends the game. Touchdowns, you're up, you're 17, the game is over.

[Danny Kelly]

But we were like, if you, if you kick the field goal here, you're. You are requiring Carson Wentz, who already has two interceptions, to basically go down the field and score, to have two touchdown drives to win the game.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

And, and, or you go for two and obviously. Or you go for it and obviously seal it. But if you don't get it, then it's only 10 points, which is. Which is nothing nowadays without you with the field goals. And it's funny because Tomlin is always conservative. Like Tomlin always kicks.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So that's why I was telling you. I'm like, there's no way he snaps. This is he going to hardcore 100% hard count.

[Dana Heifetz]

But it's fourth and goal, so you don't get the first. But what's necessarily. But what's funny about it is the logic part of it is, well, if we don't get the first year, Carson Wentz has got to go like 99 yards.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right?

[Dana Heifetz]

And then that's like exactly what happened, which is Jordan addison gets an 81 yard pass.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Dana Heifetz]

And Jordan Addison goes down and Peyton Wilson, who of all people was a linebacker who fell in the draft in large part because he wasn't that fast, right?

[Craig Korolbeck]

DK no, he was fat.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's super fast.

[Danny Kelly]

He's like undersized a little bit.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. But he is very fast. I think he ran like a 4.

[Dana Heifetz]

4.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, so he hit 21, 22 miles an hour running after Addison.

[Dana Heifetz]

He catches Jordan Addison at the one yard line, which ended up being massive because Jordan Addison really should have scored a touchdown here at. Just check, double check it. He really should have scored a touchdown with like 3 minutes and 25 seconds left.

[Danny Kelly]

That was huge.

[Dana Heifetz]

And the Vikings ended up getting the touchdown, but they did it just before the two minute warning. So they saved like a minute and 20 with the tackle. But then.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So he ran a 4, 4, 3 at the combine.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh, yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So he is extremely fast at 2:33.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think just Peyton is so deep in my brain as Peyton Manning that I can't admit anyone named Peyton would be fast.

[Craig Korolbeck]

But I think it was a multitude of injuries in college that, you know, people were worried about.

[Dana Heifetz]

So the Tomlin decision to go for the touchdown was so out of character. And then just immediately, the Vikings are.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Down three, like the most disaster.

[Danny Kelly]

And that fourth down play call was a run, which, like, I guess Rogers like that, but it was like into the gut. It just got stuffed.

[Dana Heifetz]

I'm sure they called a run and they had a pass that he would kill, too. And then, like, they just liked the look, but they didn't get it. But the. Then the Vikings go for the onside kick, which you hated. Cause now they're down three and they're onside kicking.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Cause it's like if you don't get the onside kick, the Steelers are immediately in field goal range, which, like, all right, I guess you're down three. Who cares if you're down six? But I. I just.

[Dana Heifetz]

You loved it as a Steelers fan, but you were, like, confused by the.

[Danny Kelly]

I was confused, yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

But anyway. And then the. So I mean, the Steelers get the onside kick.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, and then it was like the Vikings at the end, like, basically trying to pass the middle of the field with 13 seconds left, which they had no timeout. So even if they completed the pass, there's no way they would be able to spike.

[Dana Heifetz]

Was just.

[Danny Kelly]

It was like both these guys were drunk.

[Dana Heifetz]

That was the.

[Danny Kelly]

So it was jet lag coaching.

[Dana Heifetz]

What was strange about the Tomlin thing, and I know I'm drawing this out a little bit was strange, was the Steelers immediately go three and out, and the Steelers get three, and they probably have half a yard for fourth down. And at this point, Tomlin does not go for it. And they're at like the 40. They punt. Touchback at the back of the end zone. It's a horrific punt from the 40 yard line. He punted at 50 yards. So now they get the Vikings about the 20. And it's like Tomlin kind of did the worst of both worlds. You should have took the field goal at the three yard line, but now you're at fourth and half a yard. It's like, now you go for it, the game's over.

[Danny Kelly]

It's the worst part of Tomlin, his fourth down, like, end of his end of game stuff. It's like they make him decide if he's going to go for fourth downs before the game starts. They're like, hey, you're going to have four first downs. Which ones are you going to go for? And he has to decide before because you truly have no idea what he's going to do. It's like a genuine coin flip every time.

[Dana Heifetz]

It was really strange, but overall it was. I just. I don't know if you guys have anything else in the game itself, but I think just being at the game, it was awesome. I gotta tell you. Like, this trip was sick. And I think the London thing, like, I'm sure the London games are awesome, but the reality is they've been doing that now since 2007. I think, like, this people were so hyped for this game. The crowd was incredible, particularly the Steelers.

[Danny Kelly]

In Pittsburgh and what it meant to Ireland. There was a lot of players, a lot of the post game presses. Patrick Queen, straight up, he was like, no offense, but this was a better crowd than Pittsburgh.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He said that?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Oh, he was like. It felt more like a home game. He was like. The sustained cheering throughout the game was stronger than actually in Pittsburgh.

[Dana Heifetz]

When they played Renegade, which is like the Steelers big hype song, they always play it like third, like sometimes fourth quarter when they need a big defensive or special teams play. It was unbelievable to see how many people brought tarot, had terrible towels. Also. All these people brought them from home. I don't know. You know what I mean? And so. Or just literally like from a ocean away or whatever, a bottom in town. And so they're just literally probably 30 or 40,000 of the people there had terrible towels waving. It was crazy. It was so loud. But it was also just, frankly, it was really cool. It was in Ireland, like they played Zombie.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Everyone was screaming.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It was like during a timeout or a TV timeout.

[Dana Heifetz]

Two full minutes. Not like the 10 seconds between breaks. Like everyone just 80, 000 people singing. Zombie was.

[Craig Korolbeck]

That was awesome.

[Danny Kelly]

It was a great Steelers win. They needed to win this game. Like the vibes. It was great that they won. They played well on. They like, they ran the ball well. The Steelers have a little bit of an identity. And now with the Ravens losing this game, The Ravens are 1 and 3. The Steelers are 3 and 1 in the AFC North.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's pretty amazing.

[Danny Kelly]

Burrows out. The Browns are the Browns like the Steelers. If Rogers can stay healthy, I mean, they have a real shot.

[Dana Heifetz]

It is so funny because I think everyone universally before the season, like I'm sure any NFL analyst, you could. You listen to I feel like everyone was like, well, if you want to pick playoff teams, usually two or three fall out. Picking the Steelers to go back almost feels like a boulder. Picked and picking the Steelers fallout. And it's like, I don't think there is. I would actually be curious if there's anyone that other than people cover the Steelers or are fans of the Steelers. I wonder if anyone picked the Ravens to miss the playoffs and the Steelers to be in no way other than just people who like, like the Steelers. It's. And the fact that it's like this, it's just, I don't know. Talent, man. I I Rogers is playing well. The outfit. We'll see. I'm impressed. It was an impressive game. Rogers played well.

[Danny Kelly]

And we should say Jay Warren.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was an actor. That was crazy receiver.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, the amount of people. There was a fight in my one of my college fantasy groups because somebody of course was like, hey, I was asleep when Jalen Warren was announced in actor. So I like started him accidentally.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

So there's a lot of that as well.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. And it was just awesome. Watts TJ Watt, when he, I mean batted. He did a JJ batted the past himself and intercepted.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And then he tried to kick it into the stands and totally shanked it. Yeah. Which was funny.

[Dana Heifetz]

Dude, special teams are back, man. Maybe got blocked. But yeah, no, it was pretty incredible. It was an amazing game. And then I I do want to shout out just Sonny, who is Sonny, who is one of the. I mean, really the main reason that we were. We were here in Ireland. Sonny did an awesome job.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Seed for us.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I want to shout out Tom, who basically got us field access. And that was awesome because I won't lie, like, I don't think Bill Murray would think Tom. No. Bill Murray's mad. I found Bill Murray.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

On the sideline.

[Danny Kelly]

Walked by us.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's true. Bill Murray walked by us.

[Danny Kelly]

You walk right by us. We're like, that's Bill Murray and Jason Kelsey.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's funny because there were rumors that Bill Murray would come because he was at a pub and dingle and a.

[Danny Kelly]

Couple nights ago saying, I think this.

[Dana Heifetz]

Is fair to say. I think of all the truly a list people who are famous in America. I don't think there's anyone outside of like, I don't think there's anyone that's more like they're rumored to be coming. But like, you don't know what that means than Bill Murray. Bill Murray apparently doesn't even own a cell phone. Like, it was hard for them to even contact him.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And so I just feel like where Bill Murray is going to be is just like, he's the most unpredictable celebrity I think we have.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, we had him on. He was on flying coach, and it was impossible to even get him set up to record. Like, he. He was on somebody else's, like, iPhone recording, and he was walking while doing it.

[Dana Heifetz]

Did you have to explain this?

[Danny Kelly]

No. I mean, he just, like, showed up and was like, somebody else planned it for him, and he was just, like, on his phone with headphones in, and we were like, hey, like, is this how you're gonna record? And he's like, yeah. We're like, all right. And he was just, like, walking around his house with his phone down, and so you could, like, see his, like, chin angle as he was just roaming around the house.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Did he know it was on video?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Sean McVay and Pete Carroll staring at him.

[Dana Heifetz]

I just saw him.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it was the Steve Kerr season.

[Dana Heifetz]

I just saw him walking around, like, field access. And it's like, you could interview anyone. People are just going up to Goodell and kind of talking. So I was like, screw it. And I kind of just was like, bill, like, what's up? Because the whole thing was he went to the pub. I was like, what was your favorite?

[Danny Kelly]

Remember when you were on snl?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Do you remember when you're in the Groundhog Day?

[Dana Heifetz]

Remember when you're in the Beatles?

[Craig Korolbeck]

That was awesome.

[Dana Heifetz]

Nah. But, yeah, no, so. And you talked to Kelsey, and I talked and Jason. Kelsey. After that, you know, so. So what happened? Really? What happened was I. I asked Bill Murray, what's your favorite puppy? Been to Ireland? He shouted out. I was like, guinness or Murphy's? Because while I was here, discovered Murphy's. I think it' beer than Guinness, which is not sacrilege. I think it's a deep. That's a hid. No, it's good. Ridiculous. It's good.

[Danny Kelly]

It is good. I know. It's like, okay, please. I actually think it's better than Guinness.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And it's actually the opposite.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's the scaboo of Gene. Yeah. But the. So then I was like, what's your favorite? He's like, oh, you know, actually, I kept spilling my Guinness on myself, so they kept refilling it. And then I was like, eagles are sorry. I was like, Vikings. He's like, all right, all right. I gotta. I gotta go get it. Like, please, you know, like, stop talking me now.

[Craig Korolbeck]

One too many questions.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I was like, yeah. It's like, It's. It's an art to kind of just get out.

[Craig Korolbeck]

How to leave the. The. The conversation.

[Dana Heifetz]

And so then I overcorrected with Jason Kelce and I was like, I'll just ask you one question. And he gave me such a thoughtful answer. And I was like, damn. He definitely would have done more than one question. And I should have talked longer to him.

[Danny Kelly]

And you also asked him about favorite pub.

[Dana Heifetz]

I asked him his favorite pub and he gave a really thoughtful answer, but a great place. He was wearing Galway.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was wearing a. The dude sweater.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Which is pretty cool.

[Dana Heifetz]

But I kind of think he wanted to keep talking to me. And I was like, you think I kind of. No, I. No, I'm kidding. I just wanted to believe that.

[Danny Kelly]

But shout out to you. You hunted both them down and.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And you were.

[Danny Kelly]

You were a real journalist today.

[Dana Heifetz]

Can you imagine if I hadn't done that, what that would have done for journalism if I hadn't just asked Bill Murray if he likes beer?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So we're over here.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay. Anything else from Ireland? Dublin. We're gonna have. We're gonna. We have so many Dublin stories that I'm sure they'll be threaded through this, but we're gonna have Power Hour on Wednesday. We're gonna have a ton of stuff.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah. So we can stick to this slate of games, which I gotta say. So we went to the Steelers game at 2:30 Pacific Time in. Sorry, not Pacific Time. 2:30 local time in Ireland. The. The early slate started at 6 o' clock PM local time. The second slate started 9pm local time. And now the night game starts at 1:20 local time in the morning. Crazy stuff.

[Dana Heifetz]

A different kind of morning game for you.

[Danny Kelly]

I was all turned around. It was like 6pm but the morning games were starting. I didn't know where it was.

[Dana Heifetz]

So I think to just. I mean, piggybacking off the Steelers thing of 24, 21. Like to your point, it paired with the Chiefs game. So the Chiefs beat the Ravens 37 to 20. And I feel like. Craig, I feel like just winners and losers. I feel like the Chiefs are the big winner of the day, right? Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Dk, they're your winner, right?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. The Chiefs, like hyphen said, 37 to 20 over Baltimore. Man. First of all, Baltimore not going great. Things are really tough. Lamar Jackson left in the third quarter, early fourth quarter with a hamstring injury. But we want to focus on the winner here, the Chiefs. I think that they. It really felt like they kind of had their mojo back a little Bit in this game. Mahomes threw for four touchdowns for the first time in a game since October of 2023. Yeah, you know, they didn't quite get to 40, but like it's been like two years.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean they would. I think it's been. Game was close.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think it's been 40 games since they've had that bad point.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So this, it felt more like the Chiefs of old in terms of just like what you'd expect from this type of like this offense where explosive plays, deep shots down the field. It just looks smoother. You know what I mean? Like watching them lately has been like pulling teeth. Everything is really hard. Everything is really difficult. And I will say, I don't know if I, I thought it would help. I didn't think it would help this much. But Xavier Worthy was a real game changer in this. He actually led. He led the team in rushing and receiving in this game, I believe. Let me see here. He had 38 yards rushing, which was tops on the team. And then he had five catches for 83 yards receiving.

[Dana Heifetz]

That is so demoralizing for the Ravens. I know. I do want to focus on the Chiefs though. You're right. I. I was wrong about Worthy. I thought they give him a few design touches in the shoulder. It'd be like having the speed element. But I thought the range of motion with the art with, you know, just his shoulders.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. The risk that he's going to get hurt.

[Dana Heifetz]

He was a way larger factor in this game than I thought he would be. But I, I agree. Honestly, my takeaway from this Chiefs game was my intrusive thought was the last seven to 14 days was the best super bowl odds you'll ever get for the Chiefs for the next like eight, nine years.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like literally we are. That was the last of what like part of me was like Worthy here. Rasheed Rice is going to come back from the suspension. And when you have this offense with Rasheed Rice, Worthy. Tyquan Thornton has a very, very viable fourth guy speed element.

[Craig Korolbeck]

A good like. Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And then Kelsey falling back everywhere she writes, coming back and slotting everyone back into like where they're supposed to be. And the Chiefs off. It's not being so slow anymore and Mahomes having more options. Like I think the offensive line getting better and I just, I really do think Casey just is going to be fine. Or the Ravens defense is actually like a huge problem and something that was maybe it's just more like Rokon Smith Gunner in the middle of this game. They. You know, Matabka is on injured reserve.

[Danny Kelly]

They were down like six starters. That's the other thing. The Ravens defense, man, they let up 41 to the Bills, 38 to the Lions, and now 37 to the Chiefs.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. So the race been like legitimately one of the worst defenses.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think this is a better win for the Chiefs than it is a loss to the Ravens. And you said that to me like 20 minutes ago. I'm probably stealing that from you. But like, I think you're right about that. I mean, the Chiefs were underdogs at home and they won by 17 and they really should have won by 24. But the flip side is in terms of where people are at in their season, I don't think the vibes are not worse, but the vibes are dark for Baltimore, where you're a 1 and 3. The Steelers to your point are they're 3 and 1. Right. And so you're behind in the division. The Ravens have gone from this literal super bowl favorites a couple weeks ago.

[Danny Kelly]

To like, are they a wild card team?

[Dana Heifetz]

They actually are going to have to fight to make the playoffs down.

[Danny Kelly]

We don't even know if Lamar is going to play next week. Lamar is a hamstring injury that they were wrapping up. Yeah, it, it's, it's tough right now. I was going to ask if it's like panic time for, for Derrick Henry as well. If you want to talk about fantasy, Derek Henry, Henry has quietly been terrible outside of week one. He had the great week one, 28 fantasy points since then, two 10 and six. And yeah, you know his rushing totals in those games, 23, 50 and 42. Derrick Henry had less than 50 yards once last year and he's done it three times already.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, it's definitely really concerning and I think it has to do with, you know, like last year, the big variable that we kind of thought would be a big cake. Like big thing for him is like yards before contact. Just doesn't feel like it's here that there for him this year. I mean he's getting, getting tackled at the line of scrimmage. Sometimes behind line of scrimmage, like falling down. He just needs, he needs that extra little bit of.

[Danny Kelly]

And again, it's like the oldest story in the book about Derek Henry, but when they get down, he doesn't play as much. And now if Cooper Rush is going to be the quarterback, they're playing Houston next week. He is no longer A top 10. Maybe not even top 20 back now.

[Dana Heifetz]

No. And again, it's It's Lamar. I mean, you said even before Lamar had the hamstring issue that you said, I. We were watching a Craig, and you were just kind of like, does Lamar look as fast as he used to?

[Danny Kelly]

He's not.

[Dana Heifetz]

And we were all kind of like, no.

[Danny Kelly]

And it doesn't mean like, I don't want to. He's still like a 95 percentile athlete now. Maybe not the 99, but when you go back and watch year one, year two, Lamar, what he was doing physically while scrambling and running was a little bit freakier than what he does now.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think that's right. And when you are dropped, he gets.

[Danny Kelly]

Caught a little bit more. Now he. His breakaway is a little bit slower now than it used to be. And it's like, look, these guys get older. Josh Allen, it's not going to go on forever. Patrick Mahomes is 30. It's kind of weird. Like, these guys are actually creeping closer to 30.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yes. They're toward the end of their primes, their physical primes.

[Danny Kelly]

And we don't have a lot of examples of guys like Lamar aging. You know what I mean? Like, we and Josh Allen, we don't know what 30. I don't even know what 35 year old, honestly.

[Dana Heifetz]

We don't have any. We don't have any examples of aging, to be honest.

[Danny Kelly]

So it's like, of course there are running quarterbacks who age, but like the, the, like Michael Vick, I guess I.

[Dana Heifetz]

Was gonna say it, but I was like, we don't. Michael Vick doesn't count.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You know, so I like Cam, but.

[Dana Heifetz]

Cam was so big. Cam got hurt because he kept using his shoulders, a battering ram, and his shoulder almost fell off, so he couldn't throw well.

[Danny Kelly]

And it's a scary sign. What happened to, like, if what happened to Cam is what's gonna happen to Lamar?

[Craig Korolbeck]

But Lamar is actually a really good passer.

[Danny Kelly]

Totally. Totally.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So I think he's like, I mean, he is an outlier. He's. He's one of one. And stylistically, so obviously I think he'll be able to age gracefully because he's such a good passer and he has such good vision for the field and anticipation. But yeah, but yeah, I think here's. Here's a kind of concerning thing. Craig, look at who's number two in yards before contact for carry this year. The Ravens. So I guess, like, my impression maybe is incorrect.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

That they're not.

[Dana Heifetz]

Part of me is like, we almost need to split it out the first three quarters versus Buffalo and after it's been like it's been completely right like so much of like you Craig, you mentioned Derek Henry has like 28 of his points in week one. I think 26 of those 28 in the first three quarters versus Buffalo since the Buffalo like came back. Yeah, really since the first half of week one. I, I, I mean it's been a different team and frankly everything the short yardage stuff looks jumbled which is inexcusable. I, I look, we always joke Derek Henry kind of looks like the stat like a statue of a dictator toppling in a square if it gets hit early. But overall there's just a dictator. It's, it does. But overall I, I just the Todd Monkin I think was brought in, in, in in a lot of ways because I think of an ability to create creative spacing with different kinds of personnel that would really help with the Ravens and a lot of the issues they had and merge a real passing game but still have a rushing identity. And Derek Henry was specifically brought in because the Chiefs in the AFC championship game, Steve Spagnolo, who understands Lamar's weaknesses and how to exploit them better than any coordinator including Luannaruma, like Spagnolo owns this rivalry in a lot of ways. And again the Ravens were favored in this game even though the Ravens are now what 1 in 7 versus Andy Reid since the last 2013. And Spagnolo tricked the Ravens through a lot of really interesting stuff with shading and all the RPOs into the Ravens in that AFC championship game two years ago had the fewest design runs in the history of the team playoffs regular season. They had five design runs in the entire game. And so they went and got Derrick Henry because they were couldn't they were so disgusted with themselves in Baltimore they did that and it is incredible now two seasons later how much the Chiefs still kind of own this Ravens offense. Like the, like this is the boogeyman for the Ravens. They can't beat the Chiefs. They also still lost to the Bills who lost in the playoffs. They got the, they really got out coached and out muscled by the Lions two weeks ago like all the other elite teams that the Ravens think of themselves as kind of just ran all kind of just went all around their defense and kind of shut down their offense. And like you can't tell me that's not going to sit in this.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Oh yeah, that's what I was going to say. Like this is the type of thing that is going to stick with them. And there's the seed of Doubt is there for them, I'm sure, you know, and it's like when you don't have a history of overcoming that kind of thing, I mean, they just need to do it at some point.

[Dana Heifetz]

I know this is a little bit of lazy analysis, but at some point it becomes true. The Ravens think like the Cat Williams joke of like, a Chrysler 300 looks like a Phantom till Phantom rolls up. The Raven you have to have going if you want to win the Super Bowl. There's six or seven teams that, like, wear the Phantom. And like the Ravens, when you get the kicked out of you at some point on both units, and even if the whole scores weren't awful, like, they kind of got the crap kicked out of them after halftime, week one, you start to wonder if you're actually a Chrysler 300. Like, that sleeps into your mind as a unit. And I think the Ravens are approaching that. You're one in three. Like it is. I don't know. So it's. It's. It's. That is a shocking outcome to lose.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you want to talk about a different mobile quarterback who might have a hamstring?

[Dana Heifetz]

God damn right. Okay.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's been waiting for this so long.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think the New York Giants are clearly in one way the biggest winner of the day because Jackson Dart looked awesome. Like the Charger. The judges beat the Chargers 21 to 18. Dart looks good as a passer. He looked good as a runner. Like the Giant. Like, Dable looks smart for taking him. It's one game. Like, I watch this game and I'm like, jackson Dart is the future of my life. And I hope he, as Bill says, like, I hope Jackson darts in my life for 15 years. And then Malik neighbors towards ACL. And the giants are clearly also the loser of the day.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So fucking brutal.

[Dana Heifetz]

They got three drives together. Dart neighbors got three full drives together.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

I'm like, choking up.

[Danny Kelly]

For Ivan. We felt so bad. We were watching in our Airbnb and it was like the non contact neighbors knew immediately.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was silent for, I mean, just 30 minutes.

[Dana Heifetz]

I just started Googling. I was like, I'll make this content. And just started Googling the highest quality version I could find of Simba trying to wake up Mufasa. And I was like, get up, Malik. But no, it was tough because the moment he went down and grabbed his knee, I was like, well, this is never. I'm not seeing him play for a year, am I?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But Dart did look really good. He looked. He looked what I like about Dart Is he's so confident. Borderline cocky, even. Like. Like in the interview after the game, he was like. He sat down in the press and was like, hey, shout out Russell Wilson, man. Probably tough week for him, but like, he took it like a champ.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I love him.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm like, you're a rookie. What are you talking about? Russell Wilson is a Super Bowl. And he's like, yeah, tough week for Russ. But like, respect to you, you took it like a champ.

[Dana Heifetz]

I. Dude, I gotta say, I'm so sucked in by Dart.

[Danny Kelly]

This is my team.

[Dana Heifetz]

Dart. Dart being into the Anakin Skywalker thing, I couldn't tell. I think between Abdel Carter loving Darth Vader and doing force jokes for Sax and then Jackson Dart being obsessed with Anakin Skywalker. Yeah. No, it's only lame if he loses. It's sick if you win.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know if it is. I don't know.

[Dana Heifetz]

Anyway, so Dart just to go through it. So again, The Giants won 2118 of the Chargers, who they were.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Which is actually shocking.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. The Charges were undefeated. Absolutely beating the Chargers while Jackson Dart was alive. They haven't beaten the charges since 98.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean, totally true. Incredible win. However, the. The Chargers are like a completely different team.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

So Sean got carted off. Rashan's their two best tackles. Like two of the 10 best tackles in the league. We're on the Chargers. They lost both of them. Rashawn Slater, you know, before the season started, Joe Walt, they were actually down three offensive linemen. They're playing three backups. They're like, they look like the Chargers.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And that's against.

[Dana Heifetz]

The Giants have an elite defense.

[Danny Kelly]

It's funny, literally last week we were like, the Chargers graduated from being the Chargers. They look like the old Chargers today. Herbert under pressure, getting the shit kicked out of them, struggling to move the ball down the field like they couldn't run the ball for a while until Hampton went like it looked like old shitty Chargers again. But I still have to give credit. The Giants played great.

[Dana Heifetz]

So. And. And. And the offensive tackles did not hinder Jackson Dart's performance or whatever. Like the. The Chargers offensive tackles are out, sure. But Dart played against the defense and the charges. The Chargers defense has shredded everyone they've played to be.

[Danny Kelly]

Dart's good.

[Dana Heifetz]

So Dart completed 1320 passes, 111 yards through touchdown. He also ran 10 times for 54 yards and a touchdown. I know the yardage isn't incredible, but it was his first time he completed. He completed a lot of throws. You're gonna Laugh. And it was different, different game. Jones had more yards. But I actually think it reminded me a lot of Daniel Jones's first start, which sounds like a dig but everyone has complete the same way. Derek Henry's first two seasons when he was like whatever been memory hold. Everyone's memory hold. Why everyone was excited about Daniel Jones, which was his rookie season is really good. His first start was really good. Jackson, this one reminded me a lot because I think as a passer it was competent. He was cool, he was collected. I was impressed. There was two plays, one pass in particular. I think it was third and six. He was in his own end zone and he kind of rolled right and then motioned at the receiver to come back to him and then like found an off schedule play in his own end zone. Didn't panic about a safety and he could have. And I was very happy. And again, the one part of Giants quarterback I've been excited about the last five or six years is like not having a statue like Eli. Like sometimes it's so we can never go back to having a statue of golf or whatever. And so it's nice to have that. But then the running dart, it's a powerful runner. Like the touchdown. He has good acceleration. Like the touchdown in the first drive is like touchdown up the gut. The acceleration is good, but he's bouncing off guys. He had this second and 10, I think where he just ran, kind of ran into a safety and just kept going through it. Ran for like 30 yards. And then he was feeling himself too much and he tried to like stiff arm punch a guy in the face with his throwing hand and keeled over.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He like slapped the guy in the head.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like, you're not. Maybe don't do that.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're throwing hand. Like, don't be there.

[Danny Kelly]

Reckless. He's like almost too comfortable.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Here's.

[Dana Heifetz]

You look like an idiot.

[Craig Korolbeck]

My like impression of dart, I don't know why. I just feel like he. He doesn't seem cocky to me. He seems just kind of oblivious.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Or like aloof. Like he's like. He doesn't actually realize the gravity of the situation that he's in.

[Dana Heifetz]

Which is kind of like an essential quality to really be.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's just out there playing.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You know what I mean?

[Danny Kelly]

We also can't stress like when is the last time the Giants had a cool quarterback?

[Dana Heifetz]

Dude, it's. I mean even Daniel Jones at. No, honestly, Jones was. He was such a.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was the opposite.

[Dana Heifetz]

Literally. He was named Danny Dimes because it.

[Danny Kelly]

Was like iron get the edge out.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh yeah. So we got Cowboys packers on right now because it's in Ireland and honestly this game started 1:20 in the morning so we, we really had to start. We couldn't wait for this game to end. To start.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, did he not get in on.

[Craig Korolbeck]

The one line, one yard line? I think so. I would say incur very encouraging start. Obviously beating the Chargers is huge for the Giants and the vibes are great, but he needs to do a better job of protecting himself. Clearly. Like that play he had to come out and then I think he was.

[Dana Heifetz]

For a concussion and we were like, is it his hand injury? Is it his hamstring? And they were like, no, it's his head. And I was like, here's the deal.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Dayball will not protect him. Do you remember what day ball did with Daniel Jones?

[Dana Heifetz]

He almost got Daniel Jones murdered. We thought he was trying to get Daniel Jones hurt.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean I, I, you know, I think they ball, they ball loves Jackson Jackson dart.

[Danny Kelly]

Did you see the game? They're like forehead to forehead. Like you're taking engagement photos. They really, really love each other.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like in a field.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. Like it was like they're like, like we're pregnant golden hour somewhere.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, that's the no context guy is going to totally put on his Instagram. I will say though. So Dante Koplowitz Fleming had this great stat that Jackson darts the first quarterback with a passing touchdown, a rushing touchdown and 50 plus rushing yards in his first career start since Tim Tebow who.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Was really like that tweet is a journey.

[Dana Heifetz]

But it really was like the best quarterback in the history college football. Tim Tebow, if you think about it. So if you think about it, Jackson dart, I mean basically going to be a hall of Famer.

[Danny Kelly]

I mean Tim Tebow won a playoff.

[Dana Heifetz]

Game first the Steelers.

[Danny Kelly]

That's right. Demarius Thomas.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, he should.

[Dana Heifetz]

Jackson Dart wins a playoff game versus the Steelers. That's a Super bowl win.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's so facto I'm happy for you, Heifetz. And also sorry, I got to tell.

[Dana Heifetz]

You, neighbors is horrific if you have neighbors in your fantasy team. It's, it's a, it's a black, it's a black hole of agony. Like this is neighbors also. He's so talented right as darts coming in again, it's three full drives together.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like it was like the second or third target he got in the game.

[Dana Heifetz]

And now it's like his neighbor is going to be full strength for next season. And like it's earlier in the season but still, like.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And then you start having questions like, neighbor's been hurt.

[Danny Kelly]

Hurt.

[Dana Heifetz]

A couple neighbors been hurt a lot.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. Which is like, you hate to see that.

[Dana Heifetz]

Neighbor's had ankle injuries and concussions since week three of his rookie year. And toe injuries. Like, there's a lot of nagging stuff.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It doesn't turn into, like, a longer term thing.

[Dana Heifetz]

I mean, honestly, he got hurt 10 seconds in. Craig's like, neighbors is Odell.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I was like, yeah. Because, like, everyone, I think Odell became a meme. I don't think people remember. It's not just a catch me. I'm. I can't tell if this is obvious or I'm a Giants fan, so I know this. People forget. Odell literally had the most touchdowns through 50 games of anyone ever. By, like, a lot.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was electric. He was one of the best receivers I've ever seen.

[Dana Heifetz]

It was just.

[Danny Kelly]

He was immediately fantastic.

[Dana Heifetz]

More than Gronk, more than Randy Moss. Like, and then Odell had a high ankle sprain. 26. Bracey broke his ankle. 2017 was never the same player. And I. I mean, obviously we're not.

[Craig Korolbeck]

There yet with Malik, but.

[Danny Kelly]

No, no, no.

[Dana Heifetz]

But it crosses your mind, right? Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

You hope he comes back. And Dart to Neighbors has a chance to be one of the coolest quarterback receiver combos in the league. It's like you have burrow and chase dart for, like, darts kind of swag. And Neighbors is like the whole. It's pretty cool if Neighbors can be healthy. Plus, scatter.

[Dana Heifetz]

Boo.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, the vibes could be really fucking awesome in New York.

[Dana Heifetz]

There were. Yeah, No, I didn't. Scott, I. Again.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Saints next week.

[Dana Heifetz]

Saints next week. And then it's gonna be like, Eagles, Broncos, Eagles. Where? We'll see. But no, it was. This was for a meaningless game for a team that won't make the playoffs. About as full range of emotions as I'll feel like watching the future with Dart. Losing Neighbors is a lot. Beating the Chargers, there's just a lot going on.

[Danny Kelly]

Can we pivot to where the vibes are not awesome? I'm gonna go with a loser. My loser today is the Tennessee titans, who lost 26 to 0 to the Texans.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, yeah, things are dark right now.

[Danny Kelly]

How many dk. How many touchdowns do you think the Titans have this year in four games?

[Craig Korolbeck]

One.

[Danny Kelly]

They have three.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Three.

[Danny Kelly]

Three touchdowns in four games.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's more than it feels like, which.

[Danny Kelly]

Is in dead last. The next lowest team is at 6. They had 0 red zone trips today. This year, the titans, they have 44 drives this year, seven of them got to the red zone, which is by far the worst in the league. Seven out of 44 drives just made it to the 20 yards.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's bad, especially because it's like 15.

[Danny Kelly]

The Saints have 14, the Titans have seven. And 44 drives.

[Dana Heifetz]

One out of six is literally rolling a dice, basically. Like, that's.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I mean they missed two field goals today, but it was horrible. They have three touchdowns and five turnovers. Through four games came Ward today, 10 for 26, 108 yards. I have been, have been sticking to. Ward is good and I do believe that he has the arm talent. I kind of just think, I think Brian Callahan needs to go and he makes crazy mistakes every single week and the team is clearly not great. But I, I still do believe, I think long term in Ward. But this team is terrible. And like, I, I apologize for the Calvin Ridley recommendation. Like, that's dead. I, I don't like, maybe like down the road, but you, you can't play anybody in the Titans right now.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, it's just, it's just a bad offense that we were thinking Cam Ward could like be a rookie quarterback who could have a good office.

[Danny Kelly]

I can't get a first down.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, you can't. It's just the ultimate.

[Craig Korolbeck]

There's nothing run game they don't have. They're really sloppy, a lot of drops. Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Tony Pollard, lack of talent. And we also, again, Bill Callahan, who's again Brian the Nepo dad. But really the more the offensive line coach who for 30 years has kind of like improved every offense line he's been to. And this is the one where it's like, all right, well, kind of like Pete Carroll with the Raiders, it's kind of like, all right, maybe he's put him out to pasture. I don't know. But. Well, no, I'm just saying Brian Callan, it's just like, oh, maybe that was wrong. Okay, fine, I guess it was messed up.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's not. Wait, who are you talking about?

[Dana Heifetz]

Bill Callahan.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

I'm saying, I'm just saying he's.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't think it's his fault.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, I don't think, honestly, his son's fault. I think he'd rather take the blame, that is.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, I'm sure there's a lot of blame to go around, but like, this is a hard watch right now and.

[Dana Heifetz]

I don't want to let the Texans off the hook though. I know. The Texans won 26, 0. This game was six nothing.

[Danny Kelly]

I know.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's like entering the fourth quarter.

[Danny Kelly]

I am buying this as a revival of the Texans offense.

[Dana Heifetz]

The Texans. The Titans played horrific. And the Texans were up 6 nothing. This was a game.

[Danny Kelly]

Horrible game.

[Dana Heifetz]

Game. Also. Wait, I'm sorry, can I read?

[Craig Korolbeck]

We thought it would be. But then at the end it got away from.

[Dana Heifetz]

Hold on, wait. This box score is worth. I actually want to read. This box score was absolutely stunning. It was too dark. I wanted. When neighbors got hurt, I was going to, as a joke, literally look into the sun if it was too dark. So I wanted. This is the Texans Titans box score today to start the game. Missed. Field goal. Field goal. Punt. Field goal. Punt. Punt, Punt, punt. Miss. Field goal. Miss. Field goal. Punt. That was the first three quarters. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Those are the games that used to be overseas. You know, they were like, why do you guys like this sport that took four hours?

[Dana Heifetz]

That's globalization. Is the good games are getting exported and then the bad games are in America.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I will say, I think at the beginning of Cam War, obviously different players, different prospects from a, like, hype point of view and everything. But Cam Ward reminds me a lot of like Caleb Williams's rookie year where hopeless and lost are feelings that come to your mind. Like he. You know what I mean? Like, I. Like, I'm with you. I think I still believe in him, but it is so bad. Especially from a fantasy point of view. I mean, not especially in addition to a fantasy point of view. You know, the only quarterback in the league right now who's averaging fewer points than Cam Ward through four weeks is Joe Flacco, who had negative points today.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, as somebody who starts Calvin Ridley and Tony Pollard every week, like, I just. Like, I. I kept noticing. I was like, they're never near the end zone. Like, I never see. The end zone is never on the screen. You know, they're never close enough where I'm like, I hope they score because I can't even see the end zone ever.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I can't even see it.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's like the horizon. Is the field curved or flat? I can't even tell it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You think they can see it?

[Danny Kelly]

No. Cam Ward's never seen the end zone. It's a mirage.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like, when you're driving and there's like a. Like a water on the road. You get close, you're like, oh, that was just like the sun or something. What is that, by the way?

[Craig Korolbeck]

What?

[Dana Heifetz]

It's when you're driving, you see water.

[Danny Kelly]

And then it's not on the asphalt.

[Dana Heifetz]

Right.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's on the concrete Yeah, I never.

[Dana Heifetz]

Learned that in school.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And. Or evaporation.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Like looked when you look right above a fire, it like distorts your vision.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, but the road's not on fire. But it's really hot.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Heat waves are going off of it. They're reflecting off of it.

[Danny Kelly]

I know, but black concrete.

[Dana Heifetz]

I just feel like I'm amazed by. I just never learned that. And I just don't.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think I ever learned that either.

[Dana Heifetz]

But I think there's a lot of.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Things we've established we haven't learned a lot of things that probably just what.

[Dana Heifetz]

The do you mean you can see heat anyway?

[Craig Korolbeck]

A bunch of cloud waves. Ways.

[Danny Kelly]

£1 billion.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

Real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan.

[Dana Heifetz]

Real United Airlines customers. We were returning home and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Kath and Andrew.

[Danny Kelly]

I got the T in the driver's seat. I grew up in an aviation family.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And seeing Bronx kind of reminded me.

[Dana Heifetz]

Of myself when I was that age. That's Andrew, a real United pilot. These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It felt like I was the captain.

[Dana Heifetz]

Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

[Danny Kelly]

That's how good leads the way.

[Dana Heifetz]

Time for it's so over. We're so back. Craig, what was so over for you today?

[Danny Kelly]

This is why the category was created.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Ashton Genty, who both qualified for it's so over and we're so back in the. In the same game. Yeah, I was, I was ready to call it about a quarter into the game. I was ready. I was like in the er. Ready to be like time of death, whatever.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You actually literally were like, I'm getting close. I was to calling.

[Danny Kelly]

I was like, we are minutes away from me ending this nightmare.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't. I can't feel pulse.

[Danny Kelly]

No. Yeah, the fourth down fumble. I was like, we are very close.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And it was an ugly fumble. They. So they. The Raiders handed off to Genty. He got hit in the backfield.

[Danny Kelly]

It was like a 500 pound defensive lineman just like breathing over him, flying.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It wasn't just like a regular fumble.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, I kept joking the whole Giants game. I was like, so when are we gonna make Cam spad Scatter Boo is better than Ashton. And then DK got like ang. Like old school angry at me. Like really mad at me. I did not.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I did not. But I did say, sure you were annoyed.

[Dana Heifetz]

You were annoyed. You brought it up four times.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This is not the right word. I was peeved. Yeah, maybe peeved, disgruntled. Yeah. Pissed is very different. I was okay, sorry. Now I'm getting pissed.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Kai Fitz was, I think high. Fitz actually genuinely in that moment and he probably still does very, very literally and genuinely believes Scam Cat scam. Cam Scatter was better than Ash and Genti and he would rather have.

[Danny Kelly]

He was riding high.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, I was like, objectively that's false and wrong and you're wrong.

[Danny Kelly]

And then they got an argument where Hivet is like, well, you can't say that objectively because you're basing that off your opinion.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think I'm objectively right.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I was like, oh.

[Danny Kelly]

He was like, no, objectively he's better. And hyphens is like, well, that's your opinion. He's like, no, that's objective. That doesn't make any sense.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, I was obviously doing a bit. I was like, objectively he's better.

[Dana Heifetz]

But then he like had what? Let's see, I mean, 23 touches for 155 yards and three touchdowns.

[Danny Kelly]

He had 100 yards and two touchdowns.

[Dana Heifetz]

At half I will say, did the. Well, the Raiders won today. Oh, wait, no, The Bears won. 25, 24. Cam Scatter won today.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, details.

[Dana Heifetz]

Ashton Jetty lost the game probably because.

[Danny Kelly]

He fumbled running back one on the day. 32 fantasy points at 160 yards, three touchdowns. I want to say I was not ready to write him off officially because I thought he sucked. I was just like, the Raiders situation, this whole thing is untenable.

[Dana Heifetz]

We also have.

[Danny Kelly]

It's over.

[Dana Heifetz]

We also have to set the scene here. And I wish we had set the scene of like, when we're talking about the vibes. The vibes in Genti were so bad that this morning, Carlos, who's here with us in Dublin and you know, I guess people haven't listened to what we're putting out Wednesday yet. But Carlos of not impressed with Guinness fame after being in Ireland for four days. And Carlos turns to us and is like, you know, I got Ashton Gent. This is before the game today. Steelers Vikings. He's like, I got Ashton Gentian, Kenneth Gainwell, and I'm really thinking about benching Jensen for Gaywell. And we all kind of paused and we were like, like, I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't be. And then Kenneth Gable goes and scores 31 points in full PPR. He, Kenneth Gamble goes and has two touchdowns and 125 yards. We're like, oh, my God, I can't believe that Jackie during the game text.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Us was so mad.

[Dana Heifetz]

Jackie. Jackie also went to the. Jackie got a ticket. We were in the press box. Jackie got a ticket in the stands. Oh, sorry, my fiance.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Hey, Jackie came.

[Dana Heifetz]

She was here with us in Ireland. Jackie text us and says, thank God I bench Genty for Kenneth Gain.

[Danny Kelly]

Which is like insane that we knew2, like two people who are on this trip.

[Dana Heifetz]

They didn't even know. They both had the same decision. And we were like, what are the odds of that?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, it just shows you dark times for Ashton Genti. If you're thinking about Kenneth Gainwell and.

[Dana Heifetz]

The odds that those two people ended up being the top two running backs in the entire day is why fantasy football is ridiculous.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, do you know why it happened?

[Dana Heifetz]

Because they scored five. That sounds combined.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, I mean, why? Ashton Genti is awesome Again.

[Dana Heifetz]

The stance.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Changed his stance back to the Michael Myers, like creepy psycho killer. Arms straight by his side.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh, my God.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Straight up before the snap.

[Dana Heifetz]

He looks like someone just told him that dinosaurs can't see movement.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I think this is like the truest example of look good, feel good, play Good.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

They tried to change his stance. He's like, this doesn't feel right. I can't. I can't run like this.

[Danny Kelly]

And for some reason, that just, like, opened up holes on the Raiders offensive line. I have no idea.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He has bounce in a step again.

[Danny Kelly]

He kind of can't be tackled.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No. He looked like he was made out of cement. He was. He was throwing guys off his shoulders. He was ripping through arm tackles.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know if this makes any sense, but I, I went. I took skiing lessons a couple years ago in Park City, and I've never skied before, and it was really hard for me. I'm kind of tall, I'm lanky. I've never skied before. And the center of gravity thing is real when you learn how to ski. And I remember, like, nine year olds just crushing me down the bunny slope.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Because they're like, so demoralizing.

[Danny Kelly]

They're like, little and they're compact and they're in a little like, they're like Jackson Dart.

[Dana Heifetz]

They don't know what to be afraid of. Be moving.

[Danny Kelly]

Honestly, that's what Genti feels like to me. He's like a little skier just like banging into things.

[Dana Heifetz]

Just coming down the mountain. I do think you're right. And also, so we, I mean, we did on last week's episode talk about Ash and Genti as a bylo, basically because we didn't think it could get that much worse. And like, basically everyone who had him was again thinking about benching for Kenneth Gainwell, which weirdly ended up being a good idea and then a bad idea. But I, I, the point. And I wish we had been a little clear about this because we kept talking about all the yards before. I wish I had been clear about it, about. We kept talking about how Ash and Jenty had all these yards before contact and he was getting, or sorry, it was rather getting hit at the line of scrimmage and was like, last negative yards before contact. Yes, negative yards before contact. And I wish I had been clear about saying, but the few times he has gotten a hole, he looks great. He's broken tackles. And I wish we had honestly been even clearer is saying if they open up holes, he looks fine. He looked. I guess we did mention the Derrick Henry ish of like, when he gets holes, he looks awesome. And even in the first half of this game, I was joking. He had one good run and we were joking that I can't wait for him to join a different team in four years and then like, lead the NFL and 2,000 yards and get an offensive player of the year. And then the second half, it just kind of happened. But yeah, he's. He looks like a player that went in the top 10 in the draft. And we didn't even Blake an eye about him running. Running back. Maybe the Bears sucked.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So Cam Scatter for Genti, straight up. What are you saying?

[Dana Heifetz]

No, I'm. I'm too dug in on the. I'm scattered. I can't lose Scatter. He's like a member of my family. I can't even. He's like, you know how. You know Dara. You know, David Carr kept being like, my brother's the mvp.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like, he'll go down as the most important player to any team ever.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, that. Yes. That's how I feel about Scatter.

[Craig Korolbeck]

All right.

[Dana Heifetz]

Genti's gonna go and, like, win Super Bowls, and I'm gonna be like, I think Scatter was. Was. Should have gone sixth. Dk. Speak of rookie running backs, though. Dk.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Give us another. We're so back this week.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, Amar and Hampton.

[Danny Kelly]

We're so back.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Great.

[Dana Heifetz]

We're so bad.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Obviously, we never left.

[Danny Kelly]

I never left.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I didn't leave, but I, I was worried about the usage, and it seemed like they were actually going in the wrong direction for a little while there with. With Naji Harris and the way that they were trusting him and wanting to use him. And then of course. So in fantasy football, this happens a lot. Like a little bit of luck, obviously. And obviously not luck. Luck. Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

You know, thank God Naji had the fireworks thing in the tourist.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Achilles unlucky for Naji.

[Danny Kelly]

One injury away from being good.

[Craig Korolbeck]

But when I say luck, I mean for the people who are really depending on Hampton to, like, have big numbers. Yeah, I was lucky. Yeah. I'm the only one.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, I know.

[Craig Korolbeck]

But anyway, yeah, he was awesome today. But more importantly, he had incredible usage. Because Najee Harris is now out for the season, they are relying on him as their clear cut workhorse back. And over the last two weeks, he is the number one running back in fantasy football.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, he just, like, can't be tackled. He's so big, strong. He's got, like, the saquon thighs. He had a 20 yard run today that I think he broke.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, he looks like. He looks like a little bit like DK Metcalf when he gets going.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he's like Debo Samuel. Like, he, he, I, he, he.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's a torpedo monster. I, he. There was a. The run he had where he Just. There were two runs that were incredible. One was the really long touchdown.

[Danny Kelly]

The other one, the. The 20, 25 yard run. You got to look that up. He literally broke, like, nine tackles.

[Dana Heifetz]

It reminded me of this. There's a scene in The Incredibles where Mr. Incredible, there's like, all these black. Black blobs that are being shot at him. And it's like. Like a.

[Danny Kelly]

That always. They always remind me of Boba.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. Yes. Honestly, it's like if Boba's had black mold or whatever, and it's just being. And it looked like that scene where he was Mr. Incredible and he got, like, way further than they ever realized anyone could get.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. There's only a few running backs who kind of have that ability. Like, Marshawn lynch was like that, where you. It's just like he's. You're just, like, throwing people off of you as you're running.

[Dana Heifetz]

And.

[Danny Kelly]

No, Marion Hampton has that.

[Dana Heifetz]

Marshall lynch had that kind of strength where. When you. That story that his mom would tell that, like. Like she actually had. The doctor told her that she had twins and that Marshawn lynch absorbed the other twin. Yeah. And she was. And he was like, man, you may have an exceptionally strong baby. And you're like, I believe that it's.

[Craig Korolbeck]

An actual superhero origin. Yeah. Like, for real.

[Dana Heifetz]

And. Yeah. Hampton, you're like, yeah, I wonder if that happened with him, too.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I think Hampton and Genti both have that. That quality. And I. My way of always explaining it is just looks like they're made out of cement. Like, people just can't. You just.

[Danny Kelly]

They.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He. They just bounce off of you.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think this is the key point, though, and we talked about this when we were watching these games earlier today. I want to. I think it's important to say on the show. The reason this is important right now about Genty being back and o' Marian, Hampton being back is that if you drafted these guys, you were kind of like, what the. For, like, somewhere between one and three weeks, especially with Genty. Till, like, honestly, I don't know, six hours ago. And you were really mad. And Craig made the point. The teams that win the championship don't always, like, start looking great.

[Danny Kelly]

In fantasy.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. In fantasy.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Or if the Ravens win the super bowl, the guy who's never wins.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's almost kind of disconcerting to start out hot.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. 100%.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're just like, well, great.

[Craig Korolbeck]

But the point being, actually have, like, a legit.

[Dana Heifetz]

When I look at my teams this year, I think I have, like, 10 and I looked at team and I had one of the.

[Danny Kelly]

You have 10 teams.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, including Dynasty. But yeah, it's. I know it's too. It's. It's. I know it's upsetting but the one where I was like if I had to pick which one of these is going to be like the best in week 17, it was the one that was like one and two.

[Danny Kelly]

I know it is weird. Like Hampton and I'm like I think the best roster. But like it's not like producer producing right now. But yeah, you want to peak later in the year. It's like in March Madison, the team that's like wins the conference tournament before they go in. Like that's the team you want to bet on.

[Dana Heifetz]

And so if you have Genty or you have Hampton or maybe possibly both and you listen to us about taking rookies and you your records 1 and 3 or 2 and 2. But you won today.

[Danny Kelly]

Like just hold on.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, hold on.

[Danny Kelly]

Hunker down.

[Dana Heifetz]

If you stayed with the. Kept the faith. It's over. We're so back. I want to say we just. We're so back. Back again to special teams. The NFL special teams. The Eagles blocked upon like immediately. The Patriots returned upon for a touchdown. The Lions returned upon for a touchdown. Vikings blocked a field goal. In this game which almost mattered a lot. I mean that would have been a total game changer. The Bears blocked the Raiders field goal with 33 seconds left. Again, the Raiders basically won. Sorry. Sorry. The Bears basically won on a walk off more or less field goal block on the Raiders. That really seemed to kind of wreak beat Carol's soul. He looked really dead and he looked really upset.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He had like around his eyes. It was like a little extra red. He wasn't looking.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think Pete losing on a special teams play killed him a little inside I think. I don't know if he'll be the same. That was tough.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He'll bounce back.

[Dana Heifetz]

The Jaguars. But honestly the most impressive one of all the special teams ones was the Jaguars are trying to pump for a touchdown. I think it was Parker Washington.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And Thomas Morstead, he was striding it out. He's the Niners punter. Kind of almost caught him.

[Danny Kelly]

I couldn't stop watching it. It was like DK Metcalf chasing down Buddha Baker. Legitimate this like how old is Thomas Mor?

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, I was going to ask you how old do you on that again?

[Danny Kelly]

On principle every punter. Jimmy's 35 plus.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Dana Heifetz]

How old do you think Thomas Mor is? Who again basically raced him in a 40 yard dash.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't. You can tell him he's 25. He is 35.

[Dana Heifetz]

He. He basically raced him in a 40 yard dash. He's like a long striker. Whereas he was backward and the other guy was at full speed and then turned around and lost one yard.

[Danny Kelly]

It was close. Yeah, he literally lost one yard over four. Like it was. Was really, really impressive. Maybe the play of the day somehow.

[Dana Heifetz]

Thomas Mord is 39 years old.

[Danny Kelly]

Get out of here.

[Dana Heifetz]

Which almost makes me be like is Parker Washington slow? Thomas More is Thomas More said a.

[Danny Kelly]

Freak of nature and we don't know it.

[Dana Heifetz]

Thomas Morted. I mean this punters are crazy. Brad Wing who was a Giants punter while ago is like a bodybuilder. Like these guys, like they're athletes. But yeah. Thomas Morstead. I was kind of blown away, dude.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I can't even actually remember punters.

[Dana Heifetz]

He didn't catch.

[Craig Korolbeck]

They don't usually run.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like Jaguars won the game.

[Danny Kelly]

Close.

[Dana Heifetz]

Ironically, Jaguars kind of won the game because of the punt return. But he didn't get them. But that was. I was kind of finding the video.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm going to tweet it every day for.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was writing it out. Born in 1982, he ran a 48488.

[Danny Kelly]

He's six four. He's a gazelle out there.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was probably the best high school like high school athlete his town has ever seen.

[Dana Heifetz]

100% dude. He was taking the 2009 NFL Draft.

[Danny Kelly]

I can't go check that out. Go to my Twitter. I'm going to be promoting Thomas Moore's day. Best play the day, Craig.

[Dana Heifetz]

Who else is back this week?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, one more. We're so back, dude. The Falcons penx London pits. The gang is back together. They had one bad week where they scored zero points against the Panthers. We don't acknowledge it. I refuse.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, they didn't have. They had kind of a bad week before that too.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well was it when they finished dead last?

[Danny Kelly]

My model?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Sure, sure.

[Danny Kelly]

But Pennix looked good today. Had one bad pick but outside of that played really well. Drake London 100 yards. Touchdown. Bichon Robinson 175 yards. Touchdown. Kyle Pitts 70 yards. Touchdown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This looks like actually looks good again.

[Danny Kelly]

You know what I noticed about Pitt Pitts? He seems happy.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's having fun again.

[Danny Kelly]

I swear to God. Kyle Pitts's body language is different this year. He scored a touchdown and he gave like this lion's roar. He was so happy. He has not looked like that for the last four seasons. He's Happy.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Happy. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe that's because he's healthy, right?

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, also maybe again, I do think pits. We are such idiots sometimes. Like, we're like this guy's. And I, I understand that.

[Danny Kelly]

I got pits in two of my three leagues this year, baby. Pitts, we're cooking over here.

[Dana Heifetz]

Pitts had the Terry McLaurin experience. I bench pits this week.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, but the vibes on your bench are so good.

[Danny Kelly]

Bench vibes are crazy, dude.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You're feeling great about next week.

[Danny Kelly]

Week.

[Dana Heifetz]

Thank you. The Knicks. Pitts had the Terry McLaren experience without the Terry McLaren character reputation. So no one felt bad for him. People were just mad like, you were supposed to be good. You ruined my team. You. But in reality, he had Desmond Ritter. He had. I mean, my God, he had Marcus Mario quit on the team. He had Taylor Heinecke was just MCL towards mcl. Like he had again. Kirk Cousins was good. And then Kirk Cousins got injured and couldn't move and was the worst quarterback in the NFL. And then he fell off and left. Like I, I just. It was so obvious that Penck, even though he's raw as a real quarterback, like Penck is still by far like this is the best player fitted because Kyle Pitts is still a, a kind of a deep threat wide receiver. Like he's a downfield guy and Penck is pushing. What, what was Penx's yards per completion today?

[Danny Kelly]

He had 20 completions for like 320 yards.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, I'm looking it up right now. So on the season, Penck is. Let's see, hold on.

[Danny Kelly]

He's yucking the ball. He had 20 completions for 300.

[Dana Heifetz]

And that works for pits. He hasn't. That hasn't been the case for Kirk Cousins and Mariota. Like these guys can't they have the physical ability to do.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This week he averaged. He was the third highest yards attempted, air yards per area yards per attempt. So basically like how far, how vertical you're going. This week it was third most in the NFL. And then I think in the prior two weeks it was one of the lowest. He just wasn't passing the ball at all. Like the thesis behind him. And the whole reason you take him him is because he attacks downfield. He's aggressive, he's decisive. But they had that part of their offense was completely lost over the last couple of weeks.

[Dana Heifetz]

And also again, Pitts the kind of player he is, he's exactly who Marcus Mariota and Desmond Ritter and hobbling Kirk Cousins cannot participate like Heinecke. These guys can't get and Pennocks can. So I think it's legit. This whole conversation's an exercise in patience. Genty. I think Caleb playing better. I, I, I Pitts. Quentin Johnson. Like, we just kind of need sometimes Drake London. So, yeah, I am become death Oppenheimer. Word for players who went nuclear.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I want to shout out Bucky Irving. This guy, he's the best. He's like, he. The way he runs. Actually, I'm gonna combine this with another one that we do, which is sometimes it's Tom Brady quotes. We haven't really done it lately because he hasn't done a whole lot this year that was, like, notable.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's better, unfortunately. He's not good, but he's not like, a job.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's been working out in the off season.

[Danny Kelly]

Can't.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. But I think this is actually really applicable because the way that Bucky Irving runs is very unique. It's like he's always sort of francing, tiptoeing around, like, avoiding guys. Like, he's very fast and explosive, but he's elusive. And he just has quicker feet to change direction and make guys miss than most other running backs. Like, the way he can stop his feet really quickly and change direct takes more steps. Yeah, 100%. And today Tom Brady said and that people were talking about this.

[Dana Heifetz]

This.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's so twitchy and on the balls of his feet. If Bucky Irving. If. If Bucky Irving had Doritos on his heels, they would never break. I thought of you immediately.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He had Doritos on his heels.

[Danny Kelly]

They would always on his toes. Okay. He didn't. Somebody wrote that for him.

[Dana Heifetz]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

There's no way he just thought of that.

[Dana Heifetz]

You think Tom Brady's eating a Dorito?

[Craig Korolbeck]

So.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he definitely didn't think of that.

[Dana Heifetz]

How many Doritos you think. How many Doritos you think Tom Brady's eating in his life? Life.

[Danny Kelly]

Tom Brady. I will say I feel like in and off the off season, I think Tom likes to have a little fun. We saw him drunk with the trophy. Remember that?

[Dana Heifetz]

That was when he won a Super bowl at 41 Super Bowls.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's like every weekend.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I think Tom's a good time in the off season.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think that's the. I think he was so fucked up because that was the only time he drank in a year.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He hasn't had a carb since the 90s.

[Danny Kelly]

I haven't had a carb since 2003.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right, right.

[Danny Kelly]

This is what I live with every Day.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Anyway, back to Bucky Irving real quick.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay.

[Craig Korolbeck]

15 carries for 63 yards. He had a like a 70 something yard touchdown catch, five catches for 102 yards and a touchdown. He is the RB8 on the season. And I only think that's going to get better as they're. Well, hopefully Tristan Worf's coming back and hopefully the offensive line starts to solidify a little bit because they've. And really struggling to. To run block this year. But Irving in the NFL right now is fifth in scrimmage yards per game or among running backs.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, Bucky's great.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's just awesome. And he. And he just had a couple of runs today where I'm like, damn, this guy's so good.

[Dana Heifetz]

My Oppenheimer nuclear guy who went nuclear guy is Puku for the Rams. I mean, the Rams doing okay this year? Yeah, he's doing pretty good. So, I mean, the. The Rams beat the g. It was a pretty good game. The Rams beat the. The Colts 27 to 20. And. And I mean, man, Puka in fantasy. I mean, it's funny when you're the number one receiver on the season so far, and then you also end up being the number one receiver on the week. So, I mean, third classic Puka game, 13 catches, 170 yards, touchdown, went to the locker room early.

[Danny Kelly]

Number one receiver of the week, I think. I think if you go to the locker room and come back, you should get an extra, like a point, like a bonus in fantasy.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, it should do you lose a point if you go to the locker room for the energy and get it back. If you come back, you get me.

[Danny Kelly]

Through that, you lose one, but you get two. Because I think there should be. I think I want to give people hope when their player goes to the locker room. I want them to think, oh, well, if he. If he comes back, like, maybe this will be a good thing. Maybe I could get more points from this book. It would be even better then because he's scoring.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. They add like extra five points.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Pp. Pplv Points per locker room visit. PPL rv that's fine.

[Danny Kelly]

Pplv okay. Yeah. Because Puka's like other. Otherwise it's kind of a miserable experience where every game you're like, is he bleeding? What muscle is hurt? Is he concussed?

[Dana Heifetz]

Pay per view. It's point per view. Visit.

[Danny Kelly]

Point per visit.

[Dana Heifetz]

There we go.

[Danny Kelly]

Kind of like it.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's not bad.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, Puka would. I mean, his lead line right now.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, he's going full Cooper Cup. He's catching like 13 passes a game. The whole offense revolves around him. He's, he's fantastic.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So Puka last so Puka right now is averaging over 22 points per game last year.

[Danny Kelly]

That's right around his Triple Crown year.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Last year Jamar Chase won the Triple Crown. He averaged almost 20 points a game.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Under 20. 19 points. Nine.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So he's, he's actually just going.

[Dana Heifetz]

Puka is an example of you're probably, you might be 40 if you have Puka. And the question's just like can Stafford and Puka keep it up for the whole season? Like it's just like a health thing. It's like Puka just takes so many hits. He has no sense. It's like Jackson dart. He still has no sense of self preservation.

[Danny Kelly]

I I yeah but my, my Oppenheimer award, I want to combine it with the debutante ball for the player godamn maturing in front of our very eyes.

[Dana Heifetz]

How horrific.

[Danny Kelly]

Woody Marks rookie on the Texans the running back he looked great. They beat the Titans 260 today and let me tell you, Woody Marks the the Texans run game situation is a mess. It was like Nick Chubb, Daria Goomba Walle. Was Damien Pierce gonna be the guy they had this fifth round rookie Woody Marks, who was like kind of only a receiving guy could he be involved. He officially took over today. He was the RB4 on the week 26 points. He had 21 touches in this game. He played 60 of snaps.

[Craig Korolbeck]

But more importantly, why was Chubb did he he didn't get banged up during the game.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't believe.

[Dana Heifetz]

Because Woody is clearly way more juice. He makes Chub look like slow motion.

[Danny Kelly]

Totally the most important stat to me that I looked up. He played 51% on first and second downs and snaps. So it's like he was not just like the third down guy that they're mixing in. He's already starting to he played more on first and second down than Chub did and it's week four and this is a fifth round rookie. So it's like we, we've talked about him last week for the waivers episode. We're going to bring him up again at the end of this episode. But I, I do think he looked great today and he clearly is the best running back on the Texans and and will be and he's a great receiving back and end. I actually thought he passed protected very well which really matters. That's like a lot of, that's why a lot of young rookie running Backs don't play. So he just seems like a. Like an early gem of the fantasy season.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, totally. Yeah, I totally agree. Especially the Texans offense doesn't suck. And again, I think the Woody Marks thing might be a little bit of a trap because there's a chance you probably didn't play him today. You'll play him next week and then you'll remember. Oh, yeah, the Texans offense kind of sucks. They had six points against the Titans team through three quarters that could not move the ball into Texans territory. So having said that, he's a starting running back and you have him on your team. So I think, I mean, yeah, if you have a Woody Marks, he also. He looks great. So next up here we got fart or shark?

[Danny Kelly]

America's favorite segment.

[Dana Heifetz]

America's favorite segment.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Daniel, what's up?

[Danny Kelly]

Daniel Kelly, stop asking me. I won't.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's the same answer.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you mean? It's always a fart. Well, okay. This guy's been farting all goddamn season. One of them is going to cause a stain. A.J. brown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Just as maybe he's lactose intolerant. What are those things you take? Hive.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's lactates.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. A.J. brown needs it. Needs a fantasy lactate.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, actually, it is the difference between a photo shot, honestly.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, that's.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's true. Get him.

[Craig Korolbeck]

We need to get him some fantasy lactate fantasy.

[Danny Kelly]

The Eagles win 31 to 25 today over the Bucks. Eagles scored 31 points. You'd probably be excited about that for Mr. A.J. brown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Wrong. Two catches, seven yards. This man.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Wrong.

[Danny Kelly]

This man has two games this year with one point, there's only. We've only played four games. Two of them. He has one point. In another one, he had five. He had the one 20 point game where he got. He was mad. They fed him the ball and I, I. The targets. Whatever. I guess technically Jalen hurts. Threw to him like nine times. I don't care. He has.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He.

[Danny Kelly]

He has no points this year. He's unstartable. He's one of the worst wide receivers in fantasy football right now. Now. So today, two catches, seven yards. DK fart fart three. So three farts in four weeks?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

What?

[Danny Kelly]

What did he eat? Tell him. Tell him. Look at me and tell me why this is happening. What's going on?

[Dana Heifetz]

Look at me.

[Danny Kelly]

I've never had A.J. brown fantasy. I always thought he was awesome and every year he's awesome. I guess the question why is he. What's going on?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Eagles are four and variants. Bad luck.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's not what's happening.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Dallas Goddard has, like, five touchdowns this year. You think he's the best fucking receiver on their team?

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, he's not.

[Danny Kelly]

He's the best one in fantasy.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You think it's going to keep going that way?

[Danny Kelly]

It's been a month, and he's bad.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He had one. He had one good game.

[Danny Kelly]

Right.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So it's been three weeks.

[Danny Kelly]

One good game.

[Dana Heifetz]

Eagles are undefeated. Eagles four now.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Okay, so what are you suggesting? That you want to send him next week then?

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Okay, go ahead. I still think he's one of the best receivers in the NFL, and he had nine targets today. It's bad luck.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay, so with that note, I have. I have a new segment.

[Danny Kelly]

That was not what I wanted.

[Dana Heifetz]

I have a new segment. I have a new segment here.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You won't even look at me.

[Dana Heifetz]

I have a new segment here. It's called two wide receivers on Washington commanders who outscored A.J. brown and a lie. Yeah, all these players are on Washington. Great.

[Danny Kelly]

Look, Caffrey, for sure.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, I'll just name all four. I mean, obviously deo's there, but that's a free space. So I'll give you so here. Three. And I'm. No, no, I'm not Count Debo or Luke McCaffrey.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Oh.

[Dana Heifetz]

These are three other Washington wide receivers, two of which outscored A.J. brown.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, it's not hard to out. I almost outscored A.J.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Brown.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, so I almost did, technically.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay. Chris Moore, Jalen Lane.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't know who that is.

[Dana Heifetz]

Tay Martin.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't know who that is.

[Dana Heifetz]

Jaylen Lane's a good special teams player. He's really making a difference. Chris Moore, Jaylen Lane, Tay Martin. Two of these guys did outscore.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't think I've heard the name Chris Moore in a really long time time. So I'll say Chris Moore is the fake. Or they all did.

[Dana Heifetz]

Chris Moore did not outscore AJ Brown, but Tay Martin did, as did Jaylen Lane.

[Danny Kelly]

Tay Martin had one catch for 14 yards, and he outscored A.J.

[Dana Heifetz]

Brown double the yardage. 14 yards is twice as many yards as A.J. brown had.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Okay.

[Dana Heifetz]

You know what? You know what? No, no, no. I know what he. What this smugness is.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm going to.

[Dana Heifetz]

You don't have A.J. brown.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm going to trade you A.J. brown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

What are you talking about? Smugness.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're like. You don't give a.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Being smug.

[Dana Heifetz]

You were really mad that Omar Hampton.

[Danny Kelly]

Flippant.

[Dana Heifetz]

You were thrilled that Naji Harris tore his Achilles. You're like, thank God for that luck, because you have a Marian Hampton.

[Danny Kelly]

You're not in this league with me. And I'm still going to trade you A.J. brown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I have A.J. brown in several leagues.

[Danny Kelly]

Of course you have everybody in several leagues.

[Dana Heifetz]

Who would you play if you are. If DK. If you're owing for. If you're owing 4.

[Danny Kelly]

So tired.

[Dana Heifetz]

I know. If you're Owen 4.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Want me to say what actually. What actually do you.

[Dana Heifetz]

Would you play wand Robinson?

[Craig Korolbeck]

He sharted.

[Danny Kelly]

Thank you.

[Dana Heifetz]

There you go. Just say it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Say it already.

[Dana Heifetz]

Tell the truth.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Fine. He started, but I don't think you should, like, drop him.

[Dana Heifetz]

Said drop him.

[Craig Korolbeck]

What does shirt mean then?

[Dana Heifetz]

Would you play Wondale Robinson?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Means you're, like, done with it.

[Danny Kelly]

Means this is a real problem we gotta figure out.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He was, like, eighth in the NFL in targets today.

[Dana Heifetz]

You need a plan.

[Danny Kelly]

Do I get points per target?

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, but it is indicative of what he's being, how he's being used and not offense. And therefore things are going to even out.

[Danny Kelly]

You know how he's being used in the offense. 68 of his targets are less than 10 air yards, which is way higher than every other year. He's not. They're not throwing in the bowl deep. What do you got to say about that?

[Craig Korolbeck]

It'll change. Things will change.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay. Yeah, they're.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Or maybe they won't. I don't know, Craig. I can't see the future. Let's take a.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's take a break.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

When you said, I've got some hot picks for you guys, I know American Eagle read, I thought he. I was like, oh, are you recreating the Sydney Sweeney campaign?

[Dana Heifetz]

I literally have to read it verbatim.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I was like, oh, I'm excited to see what you have in store for me.

[Dana Heifetz]

I, I.

[Danny Kelly]

A calendar.

[Dana Heifetz]

Perhaps if they let us, like, have fun with these ads, we could rock it. But, like, man.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, we could rock it.

[Dana Heifetz]

But he's like, it'd be fun if we kept that. I know we shouldn't.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, I wanted to keep the hot picks thing.

[Dana Heifetz]

I thought we were. I thought, oh, we're doing the show it. Keep that too. Can we mess with the ads? Can we do that?

[Danny Kelly]

No. Well, the ad was done. And then I was like, oh, yeah, he was riffing. I was riffing that. We were back in. I thought it was funny. You said, let's keep it.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's funny.

[Danny Kelly]

I've got some hot picks for you guys for American Eagle. And I was like, oh, let's.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, keep it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like.

[Dana Heifetz]

I. Yeah, hot picks. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Which was.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Are we keeping this?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't. What? We haven't said anything bad.

[Dana Heifetz]

Whatever. Yeah, keep it. No, that's fine.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You're being smug over here.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're mad. I said you were smug. You were being smug.

[Danny Kelly]

You were mad. I said you were pissed. Well, we can't say anything about you.

[Dana Heifetz]

So Sense Dick has got some hot picks for us.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You can't just go around calling people mad, not smug.

[Danny Kelly]

You're not pissed.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's not upset. Don't put it on the Internet. He's upset.

[Danny Kelly]

TK do you have any intrusive thoughts after today?

[Dana Heifetz]

No. Smug.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No. Yeah, I do, actually.

[Danny Kelly]

I.

[Dana Heifetz]

You. I wrote one down for you. You said.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, yeah, I actually said this out.

[Dana Heifetz]

You were watching one of the. Did. What just happened?

[Danny Kelly]

Golden just got annihilated.

[Dana Heifetz]

We're still watching the middle of the Packers Cowboys game because, again, we couldn't wait till 4 in the morning to start the show. It's 13 to 2, by the way. The Cowboys returned an extra point for two points, which is just incredible.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yep.

[Dana Heifetz]

But we were watching the, the, the late slate, which. And DK was watching probably like Niners Jags or something was going. I guess Thomas Morestead was chasing down a Jaguars. And then Gino threw a pick and Deaky looks over and says, did you. And I wrote it down. Quote, did Gino throw a pick? Man, he's kind of bad.

[Danny Kelly]

He literally was like, gino's kind of bad.

[Dana Heifetz]

And then you said, and I quote, I spent all summer thinking the Seahawks made a quarterback downgrade. Made. Maybe I was wrong.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, the dude can't stop turning the ball over.

[Dana Heifetz]

Just.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He needs to stop this immediately. It's. But like, it is actually a problem each and every week. It's like, Pete Carroll hates turnovers. Absolutely abhors turnovers.

[Dana Heifetz]

We need a word.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Gino had three interceptions in a game the Raiders lost by one point. And there needs to be a word for when the marginal of you lost by is less. Is you had more turnovers. Like, that is the definition. That's the most winnable game there is in the NFL or in any level of football. You had more turnovers than points you lost by.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Gino now has seven turnovers in the season, which is second only to the Raiders are bad.

[Danny Kelly]

He threw for 117 yards today. You can't have 117 yards in three picks.

[Dana Heifetz]

Here's the thing, though. I. I acknowledge that Gino's play poorly, but also like, less than a year ago, we were watching Gino go toe to toe with the Lions offense on like, yeah, Thursday football game. And I'm like, I saw him play so well so recently. You know, who's just gone completely under the radar this season. What the fuck is up with Chip Kelly and this offense? And I'm like, chip Kelly is just coaching the Raiders offense. I don't want to pretend to have like a great understanding of what the hell he's trying to do. I understand the personnel in the Raiders is tough. Like, the Raiders protection has been good. No, no. The pressure. Protection has been good. The offensive line's bad. Like, it's easy to criticize from our. Like, we work. We're recording this from in Dublin. I will say though, like, I. I understand the offensive line again, they could not block last year, but just Chip Kelly. It was like, cool to be like, Chip Kelly. He's a coach. And then the offense is awful and no one brings him up. It's like Gino's fault. I'm like, I don't know.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He's. No one's ever really said his name this year. I can't remember last time someone said his name. Gino has been pressured 57 times this season, which is 29th among all quarterbacks. So it's obviously. And he's been pressured at a 40 rate. So obviously there's a lot of issues.

[Dana Heifetz]

Part of that's him. Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

The same reason Heifetz thinks that. That Ashton Jente is worse than Cam Scabo. So obviously there's an environment issue here, but he needs to please stop doing this for my sake.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, it's just random. It's fine. It's just bad luck.

[Danny Kelly]

But isn't it nice? Doesn't it make you feel good about the Seahawks getting rid of him?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Doesn't it make me feel good?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, I feel good about where these two teams are now. Yeah, Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, wouldn't you feel way worse if Gino's, like, the MVP candidate right now?

[Dana Heifetz]

Now?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like, hypothetically, if your team had, like, cut the quarterback because he was doing so poorly, because he won, like, I don't know, two of the last 15 games and then went to this other team in, like, Indiana or somewhere and then just, like, won three games and everyone's obsessed with him, like, that would probably make you feel. Hypothetically.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I think what I really feel the most is that I've been very impressed with Sam Darnold, and that's cool and great.

[Danny Kelly]

Would you say you're pissed about Gino?

[Dana Heifetz]

Smug.

[Danny Kelly]

It took a second.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Craig, you know what actually is, like, the worst? It's like when people accuse you of being mad and then you can't say anything about it.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, totally.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It is actually the worst thing. I'm not mad.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, you guys. You guys are like Heifitz. You argue a lot. You disagree with people a lot.

[Danny Kelly]

And I'm like, you eat pieces of for breakfast.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yes, I do.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Are you mad again? No.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're right.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, Matthew golden running back.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's Matthew golden running the wrong way. Make him look stupider. God damn it, Matthew.

[Danny Kelly]

My intrusive thought is that Quentin Johnson is just the best receiver on the Chargers and that we have to listen to what these teams are telling us. We have to listen to what Justin Herbert is telling us.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This isn't even an intrusive thought. You believe this?

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well. Well, at this point.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Believe in intrusive thought at this point, like, fully. You're.

[Danny Kelly]

I want you two to believe it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You're preaching the choir.

[Dana Heifetz]

You keep acting like preacher. I think we're at the point where we have to ask whether Quentin Johnson is just, like, the bit. The best pick you could have made at receiver in the. In September, or is he just going to be, like, maybe one of the three or four single best picks you could have made in all fantasy Football this year because like we're in that conversation with Quentin Johnson. Like he's a top five receiver in fantasy football. You got him outside probably the top 100. He just about as good as it does.

[Danny Kelly]

Say that again. He's the wide receiver four in the league.

[Dana Heifetz]

And the people ahead of him are Puka, Nakua, Amon, Rama Dunze and Quentin Johnson and then Mecca Buka and in Jigba from Seattle year. I will say it would have been pretty. You really, really, really easily could have had a team where you had a Dunes, a Johnson and a book or at least two of those guys.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like pretty effortlessly. So if you just kind of gone in on first round picks that had.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Different situations, I definitely, I definitely agree with Craig that I don't think Quentin Johnston is going away. He's. He's actually playing very well. Right. For the most part.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I, I'm worried about Lad.

[Dana Heifetz]

Did you say he's objectively better than lad McConkey?

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, I wouldn't say that.

[Dana Heifetz]

Would you say he's subjectively better than Labukaki?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Sure. He's objectively scoring more points.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, There you go.

[Danny Kelly]

Almost three times as much.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, yeah. You didn't need to add that on.

[Danny Kelly]

Can I give you one more intrusive thought I had today? I actually was thinking about A.J. brown and how like he gets mad when he doesn't catch enough passes even though they win. I think that's fine. I think it's okay to be upset.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Even when you're winning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it's okay to be upset when you don't have a great game and your team wins.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, the thing I think about a lot with A.J. brown, I think this is going to come out during the season because I wish I had the quote in front of me, but he said something fascinating. I'm obsessed by the like the rigors of like a championship put you through and like how losers of a Super bowl feel because it's like, it's just a crazy situation. And A.J. brown described after winning the super bowl, he said something. He went to his locker and he basically was like, put his head in his hands and he was like, I felt nothing. And I'm like, motherfucker, I ain't never heard nobody say that about winning a Super Bowl. Like, I have never heard anyone say I felt nothing about winning a Super Bowl. And like, I've heard people say I felt empty. Three or four days later, he was like, at the locker. Even Aaron Rodgers is like, was the best moment of My entire life.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Because Rogers did say, like, wow, that's all there is.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Huh?

[Dana Heifetz]

Tuesday, I was like, What? That's it. McVeigh is like, Tuesday, that's it. A.J. brown's like 10 minutes later. And. But he didn't have a great game. And he was. And. And. And I. I thought that was because, like, he felt that way in the Super Bowl. He had the whole season to work on it, and now he's getting less of the offense.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, I think intrusive thought.

[Dana Heifetz]

Thought.

[Danny Kelly]

If I'm a receiver or whatever and I'm in the super bowl and the options are I have 210 yards and three touchdowns and we lose by three or we win the super bowl and I have zero catches, I honestly think I might take the former.

[Dana Heifetz]

No way. No.

[Danny Kelly]

Intrusive thought.

[Dana Heifetz]

Intrusive thought. Yeah, that's fine.

[Danny Kelly]

Part of me is like, you know what? Then you're the hero of the team. Everyone's like, well, it wasn't. Well, it wasn't Craig's fault. Craig was in incredible. Remember that Super Bowl? My God.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're saying Julio Jones would rather have had the 283 Super bowl where he quietly had one of the best performances in the history of the NFL, but lose then had no catches in the Falcons win by four.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, that's my intrusive thought.

[Dana Heifetz]

Julio Jones, if you were listening, can you settle this for us?

[Danny Kelly]

And I think receivers the perfect position.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

That psychologically, receivers have more in common with basketball players than like offensive lineman. Because you need the ball.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And you're. Frankly, they're doing a lot of work that doesn't get like, iceberg works. 90% of the job is not on camera.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, part of me think like the. The NBA Finals that I think about LeBron the most in is almost like the 2017, 2018 Cavs ones when he was just like, put the entire team on his back.

[Dana Heifetz]

The J.R. smith one where J.R. smith.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

That was like an all time meme. One.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. When LeBron was averaging like 45, 12 and 13 a night.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Dude, that's.

[Danny Kelly]

People were saying he should have won Finals mvp. They lost.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. Does he should have. He by far was supposed to have a player in this, the sweet spot right there. But you want to win MVP but lose Finals mvp.

[Danny Kelly]

All I'm saying is I kind of get it.

[Dana Heifetz]

I wasn't the problem. You do the Jerry west, like, if.

[Danny Kelly]

You score zero points or whatever, you have zero catches in like your entire locker room's like jumping up and down like a little Bit of you is like, God damn it. You know?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, There you go. A.G. brown.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Now we know what kind of teammate Craig is.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Look, we're all human beings here. Don't. Don't lie. Everybody has that.

[Dana Heifetz]

Other intrusive thoughts maybe, right?

[Danny Kelly]

Right.

[Dana Heifetz]

Dude. The dude. The Family Guy joke where Cleveland's just like. He's like, peter, you're my friend and all, but I really wanted you to fail. Any other choice of thoughts anyone had?

[Craig Korolbeck]

The only. I had a thought halfway through the Chiefs game where I'm like, xavier Worthy is just gonna lead the NFL career and penalties created or whatever. Like, whatever. Like penalties against him.

[Dana Heifetz]

Him.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Because every time anyone touches him, he literally just goes.

[Dana Heifetz]

It looks unnecessary.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Rag doll. His legs are like above his head.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. At all times. Like a crash.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He just gets thrown about. It's like like a slapstick comedy when.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, you know, they.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Like the dummy halfway through the shot, you know, and like it like falls and it's like falling very unnaturally.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's like every time that crash dummy that they would like. Yes. It's like, that's what a savior. Where they look like that guy just. He's.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I'm scared. He needs to protect a scene in.

[Danny Kelly]

Naked Gun where like the Priscilla Presley, they like grab her and they like drag her up the stairs at a baseball stadium and it's clearly a puppet that they're just like thrashing left and right.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, you're right. They called the unessed roughness unworthy twice. And each time you're like, he's so. He's 160.

[Danny Kelly]

He's so small.

[Dana Heifetz]

I told you for the. For the Friday show, I googled his weight because I wanted to see it and it came up because it's so funny how the Internet works. I googled it and it just said 75 kilograms. I was like, that's such an ick. 75 kilograms.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Really? That close to 103 quarters of the way there.

[Dana Heifetz]

Play of the day.

[Danny Kelly]

I think the. The best play of the day and the worst play of the day. The same play and it's 80. Mitchell's 70 yard catch and run for a touchdown. That was this incredible, like one handed contested catch. Spun around.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Cut it like with his inside hand.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, with one hand. It was nuts. Spun around, like broke down the sideline and then pulled it to Sean Jackson. Like the ball slipped out of it. He didn't even like drop it because he was celebrating.

[Dana Heifetz]

He was trying to celebrate and then.

[Danny Kelly]

Failed to try to sell in front of him. And Just kind of slipped. Slipped right out.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And like, honestly, when you just drop your phone and accidentally kick it, like, accidentally, like, punch.

[Dana Heifetz]

You pull out your phone. Yeah. You just hit it further.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I've done this. I've almost done this so many times. You just walk. You're just standing there and all of a sudden you're like. And like, you, like, punch your phone and it goes flying 12ft.

[Danny Kelly]

That's why the Colts lost to the Rams, because of that.

[Dana Heifetz]

Also. They lost by seven points. Literally, like, that's that away.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So brutal, man.

[Dana Heifetz]

You're right. I don't think we've ever, ever had the play of the day be the worst play of the day as well. But it. He came as close as it could possibly come to winning a game.

[Craig Korolbeck]

That actually was kind of the encapsulation of A.D. mitchell as a player.

[Dana Heifetz]

Jonathan Taylor did the. It is the encapsulation. J.D. mitchell. Other plays of the day, I just want to shout out. I do want to. I think it's important to mention the Eagles doing the tush push. The fake took and they.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Twice they.

[Dana Heifetz]

I have been waiting for this. They. They. They did it like once last season, but they're now building off iterations of it. Not going to lie. This is actually kind of how football started.

[Danny Kelly]

Now they're doing tricks on it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's good.

[Dana Heifetz]

Ah, they're not tricks. I. I mean, this is how football started. It was like push forward and then all plays iterated on. Well, if they're going to do that, we'll do this. But it, like, this is like the. The amoeba that, like, the amoeba of football is tush push became like, oh, have the guy running horizontally actually take it. And then all football sprouted off it, like, into life.

[Danny Kelly]

The big bang of.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. Yeah. So honestly, the plays the Eagles are going to run are legitimately going to be from 1909.

[Danny Kelly]

Should the Eagles only run the tush push?

[Dana Heifetz]

I think it would be shock.

[Danny Kelly]

Only be in that formation and just run everything off that. It's like basically going back to, like, Army. It goes back to option.

[Dana Heifetz]

It goes back to Walter Camp. Like, this is literally like, there are plays from 115 years ago that will work for them. The play they ran today is kind of 110 years old.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm sure A.J. brown loves that.

[Dana Heifetz]

A.J. brown's sitting and like, push, push again.

[Danny Kelly]

Huh?

[Dana Heifetz]

Kevin. Kevin Patul is showing them some video from, like, when Teddy Roosevelt was president. A.J.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Brown book on the field.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's just reading.

[Danny Kelly]

Reading during the pocket. This is a problem.

[Dana Heifetz]

Honestly, Bryson Dechambo can golf with that thick yardage book in his pocket that agent Brown can play.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You know how people are getting mad at dudes now for performative reason?

[Dana Heifetz]

Reading LeBron the first page of every book he's ever been handed.

[Danny Kelly]

What's your favorite part of the book? Kind of every chapter was awesome.

[Dana Heifetz]

Google LeBron reading books. It's the funniest meme. Every time LeBron is photographed with a book that clearly, like, Rich Paul has handed him moments earlier, he's on the first page of every book he's ever been photographed.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Carlos tells us that they're announcing the super bowl halftime show at halftime of this game.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh, Prediction.

[Danny Kelly]

Can I give you prediction?

[Craig Korolbeck]

It's not Taylor Swift.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think I'm gonna predict Miley.

[Dana Heifetz]

Cyrus if they're doing it now. I don't think it's Swift. If they will, it'll break our brains. Miley Cyrus.

[Danny Kelly]

That's my prediction.

[Dana Heifetz]

She just released an album a week ago, right? Yeah. Why do you think my. Why? So why do you think Miley.

[Danny Kelly]

She doesn't tour. And I think this is the type of situation that she would do. She, like, is not big into touring. My Liz, my wife, loves Miley, so Cyrus, she has a quote that she's like, the reason I don't tour is because my outfits don't fold. She's like. And I think that's like, half.

[Dana Heifetz]

She's awesome.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, she's kind of a weird. She's kind of a kooky gal. But, yeah, I think this makes perfect sense. It's in California. It's in San Francisco. She has her album. It's like a way to promote it without having to go on tour. I think it makes sense.

[Dana Heifetz]

She really think that Taylor Swift's sourdough was nothing. People listening to this are either like, high. Fitz is a genius because it's been announced and they know know. Or he's like, wow, that guy's an idiot.

[Danny Kelly]

No, I mean, I. I do. Taylor Swift is very intentional, but. And I do believe the sourdough thing was weird, but I don't know. I kind of don't think she's doing the halftime.

[Dana Heifetz]

We'll see. Anyway. Well, I guess people listening are going to know, so we can just keep rolling and we'll come back to that.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you think because the Chiefs won today. Oh, my fashion. That she called apple and was like.

[Dana Heifetz]

Hey, well, this is.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm actually in.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No, but like, that maybe.

[Dana Heifetz]

I mean, maybe it's this Is a huge Sunday football game.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Decided to announce it so she can't back it out. Right.

[Dana Heifetz]

I. I don't know. We'll see. Maybe worst play that. Well, let's keep rolling. We'll get to that.

[Danny Kelly]

Worst play today, 80 Mitchell.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. Or the Arthur Smith Sean Hockey award for the coach of ref to piss you off. I just want to mention speaking the Eddie Mitchell play, the first replay they showed was like, from the 5 or 10 yard line. So you're trying the whole point. Did the ball cross the goal line before and then. So the first angle, it's like you can't tell because it's like, well, with the angle, I don't know. And then the other one's from the back of the end zone. From the angle, I'm not sure. Sure. I'm like, The NFL is 30. Like, the Sunday football is like 100 cameras. Super low is like 200 cameras. Regular games are like 20 or 30. Why does each end zone not have a camera on the goal line on each side? That's like, I am always. Every time they're trying to show me a goal line angle that isn't on the line, I'm kind of like, what do we. How is that possible? Why is the camera four yards off? That's so unhelpful.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Am I crazy? Do you guys ever think this.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Oh, I totally so mad about it.

[Danny Kelly]

It makes you're pissed.

[Dana Heifetz]

I didn't say pissed. I'm not pissed. Don't say I'm pissed.

[Danny Kelly]

It makes too much sense for the NFL. There still has to be. There always has to be something that you can be mad about. You know what I mean?

[Craig Korolbeck]

I actually think they kind of do that on purpose.

[Danny Kelly]

Sure.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

If the NFL was. They want you to feel too perfect. Yeah, exactly. Like, when you make a movie, you don't want it to be good or terrible, but you don't want to just feel nothing.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So they want you kind of like A.J.

[Dana Heifetz]

Brown after winning a Super Bowl.

[Craig Korolbeck]

You know what I'm saying?

[Danny Kelly]

Exactly.

[Dana Heifetz]

So read your book.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. You're not tweeting unless you're pissed.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This is the exact type of thing that dads want to talk about. And dads is a big demographic that they're trying to reach.

[Dana Heifetz]

Craig had a dad moment today when Craig was just like, giving us directions from the stadium, but, like, not on his own. Just like, we're going left up here.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Craig actually just did it off the dome.

[Dana Heifetz]

I just kind of did it off the. We walked here and I remembered how to get Back and my direction.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know why.

[Dana Heifetz]

Kid knows where he's going.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Carrier pigeon. You return home.

[Dana Heifetz]

Remember when we learned how carrier pigeons work and then forgot? Because I. I bet none of us explain that.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right. That happens a lot with us, actually.

[Dana Heifetz]

Stadium pulse of the week, which, again, is just basically, like, the kicker. He just got it. The moment was a little too big.

[Craig Korolbeck]

This is. This was like the type of. This is the same thing Craig was feeling when he just knew how to go home. Cam Little, the Jags kicker. That's his name, right? Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. That move is not knowing wrong.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't know why. That just did not sound right.

[Danny Kelly]

DK called this kick, by the way.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. So it was 26, 21 at the time. There was 3. 3 minutes and 32 seconds. Seconds left, and the Jags lined up to do a kick would. Which would have basically not sealed the game, but it would have made it, like, a much tougher situation. And the announcer's like, the wind's been swirling. They've been given these kickers all kinds of problems all day. I was like, there's no way he's making this around in his chair.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's like.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And he missed it. So I felt pretty good about that. I knew in the moment he couldn't rise above all right, though.

[Danny Kelly]

There's still one.

[Craig Korolbeck]

The stadium polls.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

They still beat the Niners, the Lucille Blue. If I don't understand the stat line, I won't respond to it. A word. One. I mean, again, Kenneth Gainwell. Nearly as many points today as A.J. brown does whole season. But the other.

[Danny Kelly]

What a fucking joke. What a joke.

[Dana Heifetz]

But the other one.

[Danny Kelly]

A.J. brown's in the prime of his life. He's 28 years old. The year I take him, it's over. He's 28.

[Dana Heifetz]

Stupid.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so dumb.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I'm the one that's pissed.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so dumb.

[Dana Heifetz]

The other one. The Patriots beat the Panthers 42, 13 today. So this one's twofold is the Panthers beat the Falcons 30. The NFL, one of the weirdest things about it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Transitive.

[Dana Heifetz]

Transitive. The Falcons lost to the Panthers 30 to 0. Like, the Panthers, 1, 30, 0. And then lost today to the Patriots by 30 by 29, which is bad. But then this one. I couldn't believe this. The Patriots lead the NFL on offensive success rate, and success rate is basically, how often are you moving the chains like. Like, basically, how often are you getting enough yards that you're, like, on schedule, Successful plays. How often do plays gaining enough yardage so did you get 5 yards of first down? Did you convert a third down? Did you get a double touchdown? I. The Patriots lead the NFL and success rate.

[Danny Kelly]

This is why you can't trust.

[Craig Korolbeck]

There's no way that's correct.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. And yet, and yet.

[Danny Kelly]

This is why I'm all about gut, gut health.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, you don't look at directions.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I guess in all fairness they play the Raiders, the Dolphins, the Panthers.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think that explains a lot of it. Yeah. But regardless, I just, I don't, I don't, I won't acknowledge that. No, we're not. I beat the Panthers. There's Panthers and Titans. I think is clearly the worst teams in the NFL. Even the Saints today, I thought were much better. So with all that said, and we're gonna get the waivers here in a second, we have to do the Burn Book. I'm not gonna lie. Let's just do A.J. brown should be in the Burn Book.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, hold on.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's recap. Week one, Jalen Waddle. Next week he scored a touchdown. Week two, Mark Andrews. Next week he went absolutely nuts. Week three, Isaiah Pacheco scored a touchdown.

[Dana Heifetz]

This week four, we have to burn A.J. brown. He's destroying people's lives.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, okay, well, that's a bit dramatic.

[Danny Kelly]

Case in point. Look at me. Carlos, our core producer is dying every week.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Seems like he's doing just fine.

[Danny Kelly]

A.J. brown has two games with one point.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay, I can just tell if his 30 leagues. He has like two A.J. brown leagues and not like 12.

[Danny Kelly]

What do you think?

[Dana Heifetz]

12?

[Danny Kelly]

Who are you? Who did you bring to the Burn Book party?

[Craig Korolbeck]

I didn't do that. Okay, we can do it. It's fine. What? He's going to score a touchdown next week in case.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, what? It's 2:30 in the morning and you're tired? Okay, well, we've been doing stuff for 15 hours straight.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Oh, okay. We were at a game.

[Danny Kelly]

We were at a game 12 hours ago.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

It should be A.J. brown. I don't know. I, I, the other person I would honestly nominate is Calvin Ridley.

[Dana Heifetz]

Calvin Ridley's like, yeah, Cal, you're kind of like, should I cut him?

[Danny Kelly]

He's unplayable this year. He has scored four seven three. Four, four.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Calvin, didn't you say he was a buy low?

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, well, that was low. Well, you really low when you can pick him off waivers and do well.

[Danny Kelly]

I feel like we have to decide what is burn like. Burn Book is like Apex Mountain where it's like burn Book doesn't mean drop. This player never Add him again, he's dead. Or does it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

We don't know.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think we should burn Calvin Ridley. Like we're mad at him. Like it's tough. Like he's making you.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, I'm also mad at AJ Brown. I'm more mad at AJ Brown because I spent more draft capital on it. AJ Brown was a second round.

[Dana Heifetz]

We definitely in the past wouldn't have burned AJ Brown down yet. Like it's, it's closer. It's somewhere closer to what Bill and Sal? Because it's like.

[Danny Kelly]

Are we burning Derek Henry? No.

[Dana Heifetz]

No. But at least he, I mean he had a lot of points a week one of those.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, A.J. brown had 20 in week three one week ago. Well, the two before that were a disaster.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Okay.

[Dana Heifetz]

But the funny part is if you.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Lost that feat not A week ago.

[Dana Heifetz]

DK have you lost?

[Danny Kelly]

I beg to differ. Mr. Gilmore accomplished that feat not but an hour ago. Well, good for Happy Gil. Oh my God. So who do you think it should be counted?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Really? Because I think I actually would not play Calvin. Really? At this point. Yeah, I'm going to continue playing.

[Danny Kelly]

Look, I will say the Titans, it's been really the terrible schedule. If you do believe in the rookie bump which. Or if like the second half rookie thing like I. It could be okay. But you cannot play him. You can't. Like you need to wait for back to back good weeks before you consider playing playing him again.

[Dana Heifetz]

I would think for Ridley. For Ridley, yeah. Well, now that we said this, do you just play him next week?

[Danny Kelly]

This will be the ultimate test.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

You're right.

[Dana Heifetz]

I know. Don't play Calvin next week. Also this Cowboys packers think it's quite the catch there at the one yard line. Oh wow. And then they're probably gonna score and go for two such classic picking. All right, let's get to waivers. We're not gonna have a Monday show on waivers or Monday football this week just because we're flying back from Dublin. So we're going to just try to do our best. Right now it's Sunday night, so obviously take with a grain of salt because you know, the Sunday football game isn't even necessarily over. Monday night football is two games. So there are like I guess 4, 8, 10 quarters that still need to happen. So keep that in mind. Obviously you have more information on what happens to those than we do. With that said, we're not going to trivia right now and everything. I could do dumb trivia if you guys want it. But like I think we just basically talk through Players that you should add.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

That if they're available. So just brass tax cutting out the bullshit.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Woody Marks for the Texans is if he's available obviously go get him like running back. Like he's the starter. He's going to overtake the Chubb. He's playing Texas offense. Whatever. If Woody Mark's available, go get him. Kenny Gainwell, obviously Kenneth Gainwell had like a top two day at running back. Like go get Kenneth Gain. Well, you don't need that.

[Danny Kelly]

I would focus way more on Woody Marks. Jalen Warren was ill and I yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He had his knee was bugging him apparently.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh I thought he wasn't feeling well.

[Craig Korolbeck]

He said he practiced on Saturday or something and he couldn't get through it. He didn't feel right.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh okay. Maybe he's a little bit more of.

[Dana Heifetz]

A similar to Woody Marks. I think Kendry Miller for the Saints looks.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah looks good.

[Dana Heifetz]

I remember when Saquon came back from that his knee injury and didn't look the same that first year and I remember confusing with Wayne Gallman and I think Kendrick Miller and Kamara had the same energy sometimes where I'm like the way Kendrick he had a great touchdown run today and Kendrick Miller just looks good.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he does.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I do think also I do kind of wonder with this way the same season's going if Camara either he personally would play through injury if the Saints are going to want to see Kendrick Miller played. So I think Kendrick Miller is going to play more more for a garbage time Saints team and then Justice Hill for the Ravens who I mean had statistically an incredible day. I mean Justice Hill 120 yards, two touchdowns and it's one of those like obviously that was because the Ravens were garbage time and they kind of Lamar was hurt and they kind of benched Derek Henry at the end. Having said that, if Kenneth Gainwell for the Steelers can go and be the number get 30 fantasy points basically or 25 plus fantasy points and half PPR because Jalen Warren's out. Derrick Henry is still like the second oldest running back in the NFL and clearly any game Derek Henry misses Justice Hillary is like pretty much going to be a pretty great lead back and keep Mitchell.

[Danny Kelly]

And if Lamar's out and it's Cooper Rush, I have a feeling that there's going to be more Justice.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah. And also the Ravens defense is bad and to your point, Derek Henry plays when they're winning and if the Ravens are going to be losing more, Justice Hill is going to play more. So I don't I think check downs I think Justice Hill is going to be like a viable for sure during bye weeks of flex worthy running back receiver. I mean we're watching this tonight football game. Romeo Dobbs already has two touchdowns. Yep. Like yeah we talked about that. I mean Romeo Dubs if he's available clearly is an option.

[Craig Korolbeck]

The packers passing game is more more like focused in on the fewer guys now they have fewer guys in the rotation.

[Danny Kelly]

Unfortunately Dubs is good.

[Dana Heifetz]

The problem is the packers are on by next week which sucks because I think he's like clearly the best player that you could get for Green Bay.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you like Wandale and anybody else on the Giants after the Malik neighbors.

[Dana Heifetz]

Injury I think Darius Slayton is going to be like way better than people think. I think everyone's gonna be like Wandale Wandale. People point to target share but I think Wanda's average depth of target is going to be a little inflated by the Cowboys game which is again the Cowboys defense is out of sync and I think Darius Slayton they signed him to a 12 to 12 year. It's like the 9,000 year lease against they signed to a three year deal for 12 million a year for Slayton this off season and he had like an undisclosed injury and then he had like a hamstring injury or something but he is groin slow start to the season but I think Darius Slayton is going like he is a starter on the team. They give him $12 million a year like he's going to play and with Malik Neighbors after the season dude waivers are hard this year. Darius Slayton is just going to play a lot for a team and I just going to get of a lot lot of looks in this offense. So he's a pro Giants fit. I I like Darius Slate a lot. He's good if one obviously if Wand's available you would want Wondale because I think they're going to do a lot of RPOs and stuff but wand's taken. I think Darius Slayton you'll be pleasantly surprised. If you're in a pinch and you just kind of want 10 points in your lineup I think it's worth it. After that it gets a little harder. I'm not going to lie.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, it's tough.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's not a good week for to be totally transparent. You might want to look I'm curious what happens to the Monday football game. Someone might have added Troy Franklin and cut him. I did that in the ringer league because someone cut TJ Hawkinson and it kind of Like, I kind of want to give that a try. So if Troy Franklin is available after money football, we'll see how it goes. That would be interesting. But yeah, I feel like receiver people are more. Oh, my God. Jordan Love just got strip sacked. Don't tell me it was to end.

[Danny Kelly]

The half or is it Dallas gonna get this?

[Dana Heifetz]

No, they're gonna get points off that. Oh, my God.

[Danny Kelly]

That was at the 15, 13 seconds left in the half. That's huge.

[Dana Heifetz]

Dude. Was that Kenny Clark? Because that would be pretty amazing if Kenny Clark ends up being like, oh, no, it was not.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Wow.

[Dana Heifetz]

Regardless, all right. Yeah, after that, like, look at further receivers. But I feel like tight end is tough too. Like, if Brenton Strange is available for the Jaguars, I think he's definitely the best. And after that, man, honestly, good luck.

[Danny Kelly]

It's tough. It's really brutal. After Brenton Strange. Brenton Strange, 28 rostered still six catches again today. He's like very involved.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I'm like, I think we like, honestly, I can't handle. They don't score. You need Titans who are score touchdowns.

[Danny Kelly]

Hold on to the tight end you have and probably play that game guy.

[Dana Heifetz]

Instead of add anybody, it's like, I mean, I literally, for the advice, honestly, you add Jake Tonjes and hope he scores a touchdown again. Like, there are no like around a Gadsden. Like, you can't. You're just. You're literally playing darts with the tight ends defense. I mean, man, it depends. Like, the packers are on by next week. So I think the packers defense, again, we'll see by the end of this game how much people actually like the defense. Perception versus reality. But they're going to be on buy. I think people might cut the defense. So that's something to keep in mind that if the packers might be a free agent, you know, if they're on by people might not make time for it. Dallas, they could score it as I was saying that. But yeah, Giants, Giants defense. Playing the Saints next week. I dart dart, dude. Dart versus Rattler. I think that one's like, pretty live. Browns versus Vikings. That one's in one in London. Could be ugly. Browns D the Vikings with a double international game and also in Europe for two weeks. Ryan Kelly's concussion. I don't want to speculate. If he has concussion. It would be a second of three weeks. I don't think he's going to play. Brian o' Neill's hurt. I don't know. I don't know what the deal is. But like, overall, they're Christian Darrell Sarcampack from injury but they're not healthy at both tackles. At the very least might have two. Might have a backup tackle and a backup center. Miles Garrett. I think the Browns defense again I think super available because they played versus the Lions ESPN 3.5% roster.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah, yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

The Browns defense, Carson Wentz, I think that's a really good one. Totally between that and the Giants for Saints, I think those are super available defenses. So I would go with one of those and maybe even the Saints versus the Giants if you really in a deep league like Dart still a second game. They got tape on them now so that's what I would do at D. But yeah, it's like there was a little more water in the desert running back now between Marks Gainwell and then if the deeper leagues, Kendra Miller and Justice, I think Justice Hill is super available even in a 14 team league. I think he might be out there. So that and I think frankly people have been adding receivers and haven't found running backs and so now there's some more liquidity running back but I think that's waivers for the week. Okay, we're gonna get out of here. I'm not gonna lie. It's halftime, this Packers Cowboys game and we're about to hear Carlos just sent us who the halftime show is rumored to be. So DK is going to think of band here but you're just going to check your text in a second here of like who the halftime show is.

[Danny Kelly]

Allegedly it's being aggregated. We'll see. We have no idea this is real during halftime. They confirm it but hopefully we'll find.

[Dana Heifetz]

Out during this conversation. But with that said, thank you to dk, thank you to Craig. Thank you for listening. We are going to have our show power hour. We're going to talk way more about Ireland and all this stuff here. We had so much fun in Ireland. Thank you to everybody. Thank you to Sunny. Thank you to Joe, thank you to Matt. Thank you everybody who helped us here. Thank you everyone at the NFL. Thank you to everyone at the ringer who sent us. Thank you. I mean thank you Bill. Thank you Sean. Thank you Mal. Thank you Connor. Thank you Jeff. Thank you like everybody who sent us with so much takes so many people to help us with this trip. Thank you Austin, Carlos, be like you guys have been amazing on this trip. Thank you so much. Much. It's just this has been amazing. It's been really cool to do this with you guys. We have a whole other show coming on Wednesday that will Go more to Ireland. But it just. This has been really fun to do. So thank you everyone for listening. Thank you for following Instagram. Tik Tok. I have to say, I think the Instagram stuff's really fun. Like, I. I know we play all the time, but go to Ringer fantasy on Instagram. We did a bunch of that. I don't think other people are trying and it was really fun. So please go follow us on Instagram.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. This has been as fun of a. Of a weekend as I think I. We could have planned for a whole.

[Dana Heifetz]

For. I guarantee that. I don't think anyone else this weekend went to different hurling matches and saw Bill Murray be like, please stop talking to me like that. That probably didn't happen to anyone else. So of course they're the number one person. Thank you, Lord, Lord.

[Craig Korolbeck]

All right. Thank you, Bad Bunny. Okay, that is cool.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, so, you know, he's. He's.

[Dana Heifetz]

That could make sense.

[Danny Kelly]

He's the opening SNL host next week.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh, that could make sense. Didn't he also? Okay, so again, to be clear, if it's wrong, it's because this hasn't been officially announced. It's gonna happen in moments, but it's being aggregated, so we don't know if it's real because it's hard to tell if anything's real. We were joking that, like, people thought that Beyonce was gonna be at the dnc. And so we're like, we don't know if this is real either. But that would make sense because I feel like the halftime show, it's kind of like how Kendrick did the halftime show, but he also popped out at the. So to speak at the. I forgot one of the other. He did. He was at one of the other halftime shows and he actually did portion of a song like years earlier and Bad Bunny, I believe, did. What was the show in 2019? Like, he did have one song at halftime show, I think, years ago. Oh, no, no. Maybe it was Thanksgiving now. Stupid. Hold on.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know the answer to that, dk.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Do you? I don't.

[Danny Kelly]

Bad Bunny.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe the biggest star in the world other than Taylor Swift right now.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korolbeck]

So that's cool.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Oh, it's confirmed. Yeah. Billboard, he's had confirmed Bad Bunny.

[Danny Kelly]

San Francisco, Santa Clara.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Really?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah. I don't. I'm not like. I don't. I don't know.

[Dana Heifetz]

He's like the most streamed artist in the entire world.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I know that.

[Dana Heifetz]

And at least before Taylor Swift went on errors, before Toast went on the ERAS tour and did the Taylor's version stuff. Bad Bunny was the most art streamed.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Artist stuff that I've heard. I think it's good. I don't. I don't. I'm just like. I don't know that that much from his.

[Danny Kelly]

I also just like him as a person. I think he's really funny. Yeah, I think he's like a really comedic actor.

[Dana Heifetz]

Okay. I'm not crazy. 2020, the Shakira one.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, Shakira. Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Jennifer Lopez, Bad Bunny, J. Balvin all popped out at the.

[Danny Kelly]

But yeah, he's great. Like the please don't destroy video he.

[Dana Heifetz]

Did when he was Shrek.

[Danny Kelly]

Like I despise it. Loathe Happy Gilmore too with every fiber of my being. But he was, you know, like he has good comedic time.

[Dana Heifetz]

He was. He was actually one of the only cameos that did have timing. He was funny.

[Craig Korolbeck]

What the Was all this Taylor Swift stuff stuff.

[Dana Heifetz]

I still wonder if they would negotiate. It was weird. It was weird that in the middle of the podcast. Oh God.

[Craig Korolbeck]

No. I just want to. You can say your thought. I just wanted to.

[Danny Kelly]

This is classic DK on Twitter during the show just pointed to a tweet from S.H. kapadia, our cooworker and it says this. The Eagles did not complete a pass in the second half today.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I just wanted you to see it, that's all.

[Danny Kelly]

That's the only game in the last two years where a team didn't complete. Complete a second half pass. They won 4 0.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Hilarious. So.

[Dana Heifetz]

That'S. It is weird that, that, you know, it's so funny. Just when last week we want to exonerate the Eagles and I really thought the Eagles offense was going to wake up after that and they get more involved. It is crazy.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Complete a pass.

[Dana Heifetz]

That's. That's pretty.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, yeah, dude.

[Dana Heifetz]

Even Kendall Hinton didn't. Did he complete a pass in that game when he had to play?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he's like two for nine.

[Dana Heifetz]

Kendall Hinton completed a pass in the second half.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, I don't know if I said the second half.

[Dana Heifetz]

Well, I don't know, but I think he did.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, yeah. Just saying.

[Danny Kelly]

We're very close to Bad Bunny, unfortunately. I think he's the host and musical guest, I would imagine so he's not gonna thank himself. So we're very close to actually hearing the. Thank you, Lauren. Thank you. Bad Bunny on snl. You know what?

[Dana Heifetz]

Doubling it up almost. I will say the Bad Bunny. I mean, he's good. I feel like we have nothing to add about. But the Taylor Swift thing. But the Taylor Swift thing, it was because on the pod she did with Travis Kelce without knowing anything about the rumors. It did stick out. She was like, I'm making sourdough like 60% of the time. And I remember thinking that was just odd. I don't know why.

[Craig Korolbeck]

And maybe she really is just making sourdough 60%.

[Dana Heifetz]

But then people were like, you know, Niners mascot, Sourdough Sam.

[Craig Korolbeck]

It felt like a reach to me.

[Dana Heifetz]

I know, but here's why. It was Sourdough Sam. Super Bowl 60, San Francisco.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Well, I don't know.

[Dana Heifetz]

No, but here's why.

[Craig Korolbeck]

That's what you told me.

[Dana Heifetz]

Here's why. It was weird. People made the point. But then I had just watched the episode and so it was literally. I forget before or after a five minute conversation about Jason Kelsey called it the art of the Easter egg and about how she would never drop something about her personal life, but only her professional life. Then they fucking said the sourdough thing. So then it was like, okay, it's kind of weird. This theory sounds insane when you just say Sourdough Sam. Whatever. Super Bowl 60. It makes sense after a five minute conversation about that. Is this. Are you just on Twitter again?

[Danny Kelly]

No, no. Swift. According to a report from Rob Shooter's substack. I'm not. I don't know who that is. Swift had interest in performing Super Bowl 60. Half damn shooting show. Though she had one major demand for the NFL. Swift wanted to retain ownership for her performance and secure slots promoting her own projects.

[Dana Heifetz]

Yeah, I think this. I think this is real.

[Danny Kelly]

Refused the league, which is arguably.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think. Yeah, I think Craig's reading the article and he can give a take. Here's my. Here's why I really do think that Taylor Swift thing. They went in negotiations. It's this simple. For the most part. They always announce the super bowl halftime show around week one. It's a giant advertisement that the NFL is beginning the season. They always announce to it around September 8th or something like seven, the beginning season. It is September 29th. They never wait. A month into the season, I think they were negotiating still because the toast was the only artist. Swift's the only artist the NFL would wait for and kind of needed more than she needs. And she did 149 era tours shows like the 150th at Super Bowl. The NFL clearly wanted that. And I think they waited a couple weeks for negotiations. And then Bad Bunny is like a pretty great backup. But I Do think if it's just going to be Bad Bunny the whole time, they would have just announced it three weeks ago. So that combined with this. I do think there was something to it.

[Craig Korolbeck]

All right.

[Danny Kelly]

She wanted to retain ownership of her performance and secure slots promoting her own projects.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think that means who. If I think what that means and retain ownership or performance is you do basically the errors Tour is a 13 minute set during the. Because they would not make the game longer for her. More than like two or three minutes. Right. So it's. Can you just still the ERAS tour to like 15 minutes and in some ways the definitive Taylor Swift video. Who owns that? Who gets to sell that to Netflix? Where does that live? Who owns that? If that's going to be the most watched YouTube video and Taylor Swift's archive. Is that on the NFL YouTube channel or is that on Taylor Swift's YouTube channel? Like that's. That means to me. Because that could have a billion views. That could have over. I mean by the time we're old, that could have 10 billion views. And it's like who owns that? Because I don't know. You look at me like you don't think that's what retain ownership?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. No, I actually don't know. I don't know if it's about like where it lives on YouTube.

[Dana Heifetz]

That feels. Well, would she do it if. I guess it's not YouTube. I guess it's more. It's the 100. Her whole thing is owner and catalog. Right? She talked about this in the past.

[Danny Kelly]

I know, but I. I just don't like doing that. I'm like ownership over her halftime performance.

[Dana Heifetz]

It's the 150th eras tour. Would you brand it as the era store? She doesn't own it.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't think she would even do. I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to see.

[Dana Heifetz]

I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

Secure slots. Promoting her own projects. I don't know what that means.

[Dana Heifetz]

What does that mean?

[Craig Korolbeck]

Commercials.

[Danny Kelly]

Promoting her own project.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Danny Kelly]

She already slots.

[Dana Heifetz]

Gotta make a bread company like commercials. Oh yeah. She wanted commercial slots for free. That's definitely what that.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't know.

[Dana Heifetz]

I think. I think slots. I think that is what she.

[Craig Korolbeck]

What is her next project?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, no, no, I'm coming out very soon.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I don't want to know.

[Dana Heifetz]

I don't know. I don't know. You guys know this was A business minor. So basically know how Taylor Swift does business.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Right.

[Dana Heifetz]

Can I tell you, I think she wasn't a businessman. I'll tell you what this means. You know, the NFL doesn't pay the performers famously, because they're like, you're getting the biggest eyeball thing there is. So she was like, well, I'm not asking you to pay me. I would just like a few commercial slots worth how many mil? How much does the super commercial go for now?

[Danny Kelly]

10, $20 million?

[Dana Heifetz]

No, it's 10. But it's like. I thought it was like 6, 5.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it can be up a little bit more, but yeah, so she's.

[Dana Heifetz]

Like, I just want two for free. Don't pay me. I'm like, they're. She's asking to get paid and then like getting paid in equity, basically, she wants to promote her thing for so. And the NFL, I think, was basically, I. I obviously don't want to pretend to know what went into it, but I do think that's what that says. Yeah, this is.

[Craig Korolbeck]

These. This reporting now that's being shown is basically like, she thought she was going to do it. So that's probably why where all that stuff came from. And then she backed out.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I mean, I believe the Easter egg thing, that was very deliberate. And she does that stuff.

[Dana Heifetz]

I also think reading this right now means that her camp is spinning this as like, I wanted this. And I told the NFL, dude, there's a Jay Z line about this. I forget what song it is. It might be in God Watch the Throne. I forget when it. Or 4. I don't know when it was, but he was like, Jay Z's like, there's a line. He's like, I turned on the Super Bowl. I need you more than you say you needed me more than I needed you. And then guess what happened. Jay Z with Roc Nation said, I'm not performing the Super Bowl. I'm going to fucking book the super bowl for you because you need me to reintroduce you to the artist. The artist community. And so then Jay Z and Roc Nation booked the super bowl for years. And so this to me is the same full like a reiteration of the Jay Z thing, where the NFL kind of did need Taylor Swift more than that, or at least that's what Taylor Swift. We're hearing about this now. So I do actually kind of think this is Taylor Swift being like, I. They actually needed me, which I believe because the NFL's never waited this long to announce it. And I can't remember, like, it's been eight years. Even like Rihanna, other, like, really big artists. It was always the first week of September. September. So I do think they were negotiating.

[Craig Korolbeck]

I mean, this reporting that we're seeing is that she. That's what happened. She walked away from it.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

And I wonder if the NFL just didn't want to set a precedent, paying the artists.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I'm sure we'll know more.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Stay tuned, stay tuned, stay tuned, stay tuned.

[Danny Kelly]

We've been talking about this for too long.

[Craig Korolbeck]

Yeah.

[Dana Heifetz]

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[Craig Korolbeck]

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