The Ringer Fantasy Football Show: Week 5 Recap

Episode: Drake & Josh, Baker Beats Darnold, Dumb Fumbles, Sad Herbert, and Eric Collins Returns
Date: October 6, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck

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This week’s episode is a whirlwind recap of the biggest moments and weirdest storylines from Week 5 of the 2025 NFL season—through a fantasy football lens. The hosts break down surprising QB performances (including the “Drake & Josh” duel), dumbfounding fumbles, the ongoing sadness of Justin Herbert’s season, and why Eric Collins is the best sports announcer alive. Plus, debates about jersey fonts, unlucky coaching, fantasy “burn book” banishments, and plenty of zany stat lines.

Key Discussion Points

1. Sunday Night Football Recap: Patriots Beat Bills, "Drake & Josh" Duel

[01:33–08:59]

• Patriots 23, Bills 20: The crew opens by dissecting a “weird” and “safe” game in which Patriots rookie QB Drake May played his most mature, composed game of the season, beating Josh Allen and the Bills.
• Mike Vrabel’s effect: The hosts joke about new Patriots coach Mike Vrabel dragging opponents “down to their level” and praising his game management in a sloppy but victorious effort.
• Drake May’s breakthrough:
  • “I feel like both quarterbacks spent the entire day on the sideline about to step out of bounds making throws.” — Danny Heifetz [02:24]
  • “My impression from this game was Drake May is legit. … This game was very much a reinforcement of what I originally thought.” — Danny Kelly [02:53]
  • “He did a lot of Josh Allen shit here without the Josh Allen, Carson Wentz, brain rot mistakes.” — Greg Korbeck [04:19]
• Vrabel compared to NFL legends: Debate whether Vrabel is more “Belichickian” or “Bill Parcells-ian,” and compared to Mike Tomlin when he took over the Steelers.
• Fantasy Fallout:
  • Ramondre Stevenson and Antonio Gibson both fumbled but stayed in the game—crediting Vrabel for not being overly punitive.
  • “How many lives does [Ramondre] have?” — Danny Kelly [08:04]

2. Jersey Font & Weird NFL Ephemera

[08:10–10:26]

• Small-Name Jersey Mystery:
  • The hosts spend several minutes dumbfounded by the abnormally tiny name font on Trayveon Henderson’s jersey.
  • “It looks like a Ross Dress For Less version. … They didn’t even give him a real jersey.” — Danny Kelly [09:06]
• Bills’ “Cold Front” jerseys: Met with lukewarm reception, hosts call them “a snow game jersey” not fit for October.

3. Seahawks–Buccaneers: Baker Beats Darnold in Shootout

[10:56–16:21]

• Offensive Explosion:
  • 720 passing yards, 6 TDs, only 10 incompletions between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold.
  • Both Ohio State WRs (Jackson Smith-Njigba and Emeka Egbuka) shine.
• Baker’s Grit: “Baker Mayfield just keeps winning games on grit and moxie and smelling salts.” — Danny Kelly [11:10]
• Flow State:
  • “At the end of games, Baker just has that intangible flow state. … Darnold gets a little tighter.” — Danny Heifetz [19:13]
  • “He’s like a Josh Allen impersonator. Like a really uncanny good cover band.” — Greg Korbeck [07:33]
• Sam Darnold’s Renaissance: Seahawks made the right call in trading away Geno Smith for Darnold, who has matured into a real starting QB.
• Surprising Contracts: “Darnold has one of the best quarterback contracts in the NFL right now… they just signed him.” — Danny Kelly [16:04]

4. Eagles’ Collapse & Roster Concerns

[22:21–28:49]

• Blowing a Lead: Eagles lose to the Broncos after being up 17–3 in the 4th quarter. Struggles to run the ball (“one designed run in the second half” and only 6 Saquon Barkley carries), O-line injuries, and uncertainty in offensive identity.
• Receiver Issues: AJ Brown and Devonta Smith both have good numbers but visible frustration. “AJ Brown literally tackled Devonta Smith in the end zone for the Hail Mary.” — Danny Kelly [23:46]
• Play Calling & O-Line Problems:
  • “This is the worst O-line the Eagles have had in five, six, seven years.” — Greg Korbeck [24:33]

5. Record-Breaking Buccaneers & Franchise Competence

[20:06–21:40]

• Close Wins Stat: Bucs are “the first team in NFL history to win four of their first five games by three or fewer points” [19:53]. “You gotta give it to the Bucs. They’re one of the most competent franchises.” — Danny Heifetz
• General Manager Jason Licht: Praised as possibly the most underrated GM in football.

6. Fantasy Losers: Ravens’ Historic Meltdown, Cooper Rush’s Misery

[32:29–36:04]

• Ravens Embarrassed:
  • “Probably one of the worst games in the history of the Ravens franchise.” — Greg Korbeck [33:23]
  • Ravens allow 44 points, fall to 1–4 for only the second time with Harbaugh.
  • Lamar Jackson and several key starters out—leads to fantasy managers starting dumpster QBs like Cooper Rush.

7. Farter or Shart: Coaching Disaster Edition

[47:32–54:44]

• Jets Disaster: New coach Aaron Glenn off to an 0–5 start. Jets are the first team in NFL history to go their first five games without a defensive turnover.
• Dan Campbell Comparisons: The hosts debate whether Jets fans should be patient (“Culture takes time”) or whether this is already a lost cause.
• Fun, off-the-rails segment analyzing if bad situations in the NFL are “just a fart” (will pass) or a full-on “shart” (more serious disaster).

8. It’s So Over / We’re So Back: Season Turning Points

[37:29–46:12]

• Raiders Collapse: Geno Smith melting down on the Raiders, leading the NFL in turnovers. Pete Carroll’s old mantra (“It’s all about the ball”) cited as incompatible with Geno’s play.
• Chargers' Offense Sinks: Another “It’s over” candidate as Justin Herbert’s season craters behind a tattered O-line:
  • “There’s no amount of Madison Beer kisses pregame that can fix it—unless she can play left tackle.” — Danny Heifetz [40:15]
  • Replacement offensive linemen are literal no-names.
• Darren Waller’s Resurrection: Comes out of retirement, is “absolutely cooking” as a tight end for the Dolphins.
• Jordan Addison’s Wild Arc: Benched for skipping walkthroughs, then wins a London game on last-minute TD.

9. Most Notable Dumb Plays and Stat Lines

[72:27–83:54]

• Cardinals-Titans Game of Chaos:
  • Kyler Murray takes a snap in the face and heads to the tunnel.
  • Demercado drops the ball before the end zone on a 76-yard run, costing a sure TD.
    • “He started slowing down at the 20. … I cannot believe how often this happens.” — Danny Kelly [74:18]
  • A Titans defender intercepts, drops, and then fumbles the ball—recovered for a touchdown.
  • “The luckiest win I've ever seen.” — Danny Heifetz [80:16]
• Skycam WIre Erases a Field Goal: The Vikings kicker’s attempt clearly hits the camera wire, but play continues.
• Random Stat Lines:
  • “Lucille Bluth: I don't understand the stat line, so I won't respond to it.”
  • Jamar Chase has more tackles than catches [97:01].
  • Cowboys’ Ryan Flournoy (from Homewood Flossmoor) leads the team in receiving.

Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• Drake May’s Breakout:
  “This was very much a reinforcement of what I originally thought. … Drake May is legit.”
  — Danny Kelly [02:53]

• Cover Band QBs:
  “He’s like a Josh Allen impersonator. Like a really uncanny good cover band.”
  — Greg Korbeck [07:33]

• On the Jets’ Defensive Turnovers:
  “The Jets are the first team in the history of the NFL to start their first five games without one turnover on defense.”
  — Greg Korbeck [52:58]

• Baker vs Darnold “Flow State”:
  “At the end of games, Baker just has that intangible flow state. … Darnold gets a little tighter.”
  — Danny Heifetz [19:13]

• Chargers O-Line Depth:
  “Austin Deculus, Foster Sorrell, the coldest, Jamari Sawyer. … I don’t know who these people are.”
  — Danny Heifetz [40:46]

• Darren Waller Resurrection:
  “He was out of the league… making music videos… Now he looks like the best receiver on the Dolphins.”
  — Danny Kelly [44:22]

• Shart vs Fart on the Jets Season:
  “The Jets aren’t even underwear — when you’re the coach, there’s no separation… it’s right in your jeans.”
  — Danny Kelly [49:33]

• Demercado Dumb Fumble:
  “He started slowing down at the 20. … I cannot believe how often this happens.”
  — Danny Kelly [74:18]

• On Injuries Ruining Fantasy and Real Life:
  “The best teams at the end of the year are the healthiest teams. Always.”
  — Danny Kelly [42:48]

Segment Timestamps

• SNF/Drake May vs Bills Breakdown: [01:33–10:26]
• Seahawks–Bucs, Baker vs Darnold: [10:56–21:40]
• Eagles’ Meltdown & Roster Worries: [22:21–28:49]
• Farter or Shart (Jets, NFL Misery): [47:32–54:44]
• It’s So Over / We’re So Back (Raiders, Chargers, Waller): [37:29–46:12]
• Craziest Plays of the Day: [72:27–83:54]
• Fantasy “Burn Book” / Henderson Banished: [100:14–106:12]

Memorable Moments & Miscellaneous

• The Iconic Call: The guys revel in Eric Collins’s all-time great “Still on his feet!” call [86:31–86:37], calling him “the best sports voice in the world.”
• Fantasy “Burn Book”: Trayveon Henderson gets burned for underachieving despite every opportunity presenting itself [100:14].
• Weird NFL Details: Extended obsession with Henderson’s tiny jersey font [08:10, 108:19].
• Brady, the Broadcaster: Tom Brady’s “Yoda speak” on Commanders-Chargers: “A little juice there for the Commanders’ defense… they feel the juice, the Chargers do.” [87:43]
• Coach/Ref Gripe: Sean Hochuli and NFL refs come under fire for nitpicky calls and bad explanations, especially on the Eagles' critical double motion penalty [89:55].
• Jamar Chase Tackles Over Catches: “Travis Hunter could never.” — Greg Korbeck [97:23]

Final Thoughts

This episode delivers everything a fantasy manager or NFL sicko would want—(sometimes excruciating) play-by-play breakdowns, clever insight on youth breakouts and perennial boomer busts, and a willingness to both celebrate the unlikely (Rico Dowdle! Jake Ferguson!) and roast the absurd (dropped TD balls, awful coaching, Patrick Mahomes’s rushing yard line). Hilarious, conversational, and always offbeat, The Ringer crew helps you see what mattered (and what’s meme-worthy) as you prepare for Week 6 waivers and lineup moves.

Key themes to remember for fantasy:

• Rookie QBs are finally maturing
• Health is king (again)
• Don’t trust the Chargers—ever
• Never give up on Darren Waller
• Always check a guy’s jersey font before the draft

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Notable Miscellaneous:

• Most fun with: Eric Collins calls, Skycam glitches, and arguing about whether the White Stripes are a band if they’re only two people.
• Most asked: WILL SOMEONE FIGURE OUT WHY TRAYVEON HENDERSON’S JERSEY FONT IS SO TINY? [105:00 onward]

For a blend of sharp fantasy analysis, football oddities, and laugh-out-loud NFL banter, this episode is quintessential Ringer Fantasy Football Show.