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Danny Hy
Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show.
Danny Kelly
My name is Danny Hy. Today I'm joined by Danny Kelly and Craig Worldbeck. And Sunday of week six is over. So we are one third of the way through the regular season, which is crazy. We're gonna go through winners, losers, categories, burn book everything you know. Finally have a farter shart drop. Thank you to all the people who submitted them. So we're gonna get to that.
Danny Hy
Hell yeah.
Danny Kelly
But we have to start with Sunday night football. The Kansas City Chiefs beat the Detroit Lions. Dk, you're shaking your head.
Craig Worldbeck
The Chiefs of old feel back. It feels like they're back. Not to do the so back where it's so over, but they are so back. They're kind of back. Mahomes, Mahomes specifically feels back.
Danny Hy
Mahomes is playing his best football. We did this, I think last week. I did like a. We need to take a second to recognize what Mahomes is doing kind of from a fantasy and real life perspective. And this was his best game of the season tonight. I mean he was perfect. What he's doing legs and arm right now, just like total command of the offense. He's as good as he's ever been. I mean he can do whatever he wants out there. And he's working with Kareem Hunt and a banged up Xavier Worthy and old Travis Kelce. And they look, they look great. Like they really do I think I was going through the FanDuel Super bowl odds today as the Chiefs were kicking ass. The Chiefs are 9 to 1 in Super bowl odds, which is fourth. And I think you should just take that right now. That's like the best bet you're going to get. Like, it's. They're behind the Bills, the Lions and the packers and I don't know, man, the Ravens probably aren't going to make the playoffs.
Danny Kelly
I was going to say it doesn't make any sense because it's like, is anyone really beating the Bills or Chiefs in the afc? Like, are you really going to bank on that?
Danny Hy
It used to be, oh, one of the Bills, Chiefs or Ravens are going to make the super bowl. And now it's like, well, one of them is removed and now it's just Buffalo and I think it's going to be Kansas City. They just look great. And I'm having a fucking blast with Mahomes on my fantasy team this year.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, I was going to say quietly, he is the QB one in fantasy as of right now.
Danny Hy
Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
24.5 points per game. The thing I think that always stood out to me about Mahomes during his absolute heyday. Obviously we're talking like it's like a long time ago because. But you know, like, well, he's in.
Danny Hy
His 30s now when he was throwing.
Craig Worldbeck
For 50 plus touchdowns and all that stuff. He just toys with the defense and he's back to toying with the defense, if that makes any sense. Like just the way that he moves around, toys with pass rushers, like changes his arm angle, all that stuff. It's back.
Danny Kelly
I, I just, I, I only laugh because I know, I know exactly. Bdk. But it's funny to be like when he was in his heyday, this guy who's maybe like three Super Bowls, that's.
Craig Worldbeck
Well, I know, I recognize that but like the, the Chiefs offense, you idiot.
Danny Kelly
Their office looked horrible the entire time. They were literally the last two Super Bowls that they made the office horrific. No, I do know you meant because they literally couldn't get a lead even last year. They literally couldn't be winning games until the final play this year. It does look different. I've said a bunch of times where I'm like, but juju looked faster tonight. Taekwond Thornton, I think has been solid. Marquis Brown worth every now and then flashes like he actually. Oh yeah, was the first receiver taken in an NFL draft, which you kind of forget sometimes with Marquis Brown. And again, Rasheed Rice is coming back for this team.
Craig Worldbeck
We're next week.
Danny Kelly
Mahomes now has actually quite a bit of familiarity now with this weird cast of characters. But it's like Green Hunt, Pacheco, like all these gu, I don't know, even left tackle tonight, like Jill and Moore filling in for Josh Simmons. I, I, I don't, I don't think.
Danny Hy
A, a swing tackle has ever gotten more airtime. Chris Collinsworth and Tor talked about jalen Moore for 20 minutes.
Danny Kelly
Well, between that and Dan Skipper, big, big night for backup tackles like popping and getting the Collinsworth buzz.
Danny Hy
Yeah, yeah, it was a big deal. They paid him two years, $30 million to be the third tackle on this team.
Danny Kelly
Do you think you could out.
Danny Hy
Brett Veach is loving it.
Danny Kelly
Can you out to Bill and Sal with the Collinsworth talking about Jalen Moore?
Danny Hy
Mike, this guy, he's the third tackle on the team. They're paying $30 million. Who does that? 30 million for a backup tackle?
Danny Kelly
Can we just talk about how hard.
Craig Worldbeck
It is to come off the bench like that and just do that right there?
Danny Hy
Mike. I could never play tackle these guys.
Danny Kelly
These guys are different.
Danny Hy
Yeah. Also, the Chiefs defense played great. I mean, look, Detroit's secondary was, was beat up. So on the, on the offensive side of the ball, you could argue that it wasn't a formidable opponent.
Danny Kelly
The Chiefs are destroying teams that have been ravaged by injury over again.
Danny Hy
However, on the, on the flip side, I thought that the defense did a fantastic job against, against Go and the Lions.
Danny Kelly
Spagnolo, dude, Spagn. It's funny that Collinsworth just said the quiet part out loud about the trade at the end of the game where he's just like, yeah, you know, it's tra. Once they have to pass, it's like, man, that's tough sometimes where it's like that's just like, hey, I mean, with the Uli kid. But it's funny because the Lions ran down the ball, ran down the field in that first drive, which I, I, we can't move on from this game. And that opening sequence still to me actually remained the entire. The most interesting part of the game happened to be the first sequence where the Lions got to fourth and goal at the one and ran what I guess was a Goff Wildcat bubble screen to Jared Goff or an rpo. And they just threw the Goff who bobbled Mark Andrew and then caught it. And Amar had an incredible block. That Goff somehow was able to bobble it and still catch it. And then they called an illegal motion And I'm not going to lie, I don't actually understand. I actually had never even thought of that. I don't know that rule at all of like what a quarterback's allowed to do out of the motion. I don't actually know that. And that was, that was shit.
Craig Worldbeck
A lot of procedural, nuanced, procedural things ruining big plays lately.
Danny Hy
I bet John Morton was really pissed. John Morton, for those who don't know, is the offensive play caller in Detroit. Kind of just a random guy that no one's really talking about this year. Despite the Lions looking exactly the same as they have the last three years. But I feel like John Morton was kind of waiting for his moment to call his fun Ben Johnson s trick play. It didn't work. I bet you he's really bummed.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, he ran a hook and ladder today too on the first drive. Unlike a first down.
Danny Kelly
They were really feeling themselves and yeah, and then that. And they got like four yards on it. It was just the hyphens.
Craig Worldbeck
The other thing I wanted to mention. Cause you kind of alluded to it with once the Lions have to start passing or whatever and they're basically.
Danny Kelly
It's.
Craig Worldbeck
And it's the same with any team. Once you become one dimensional, it's so much harder to play offense. You have to. And the best way to play offense and what's made the Lions so good over the years is they can run and then they can do play auction play action off of the run. Basically keep defenses on their heels. That's something the Chiefs are doing now. And this was a big talking point. I saw it on Twitter. A bunch is like they're. They're lining up running under center and being very successful under center and then playing and doing that and running play action off of that and just keeping defenses off their heels and so are on their heels. And that's, you know, the Chiefs now if they have that. That ability to kind of do both run the ball and pass the ball and not just Mahomes, obviously they didn't like rack up huge numbers, but the success rate was strong. So yeah, the Chiefs, they're like getting close to being a fully operational again.
Danny Kelly
Chiefs are three and three. Next couple games don't look that intimidating. Or at least I think they're playing the Raiders next week.
Danny Hy
Raiders and then Washington.
Danny Kelly
So I think Craig's right. Nine to one. If that's still the line for them to win the super bowl is pretty. Just seems like that'll pay it back. Anything else in this game before we Move on. Lions are fun, though. Not trying to say the li.
Danny Hy
Yeah, Lions are fun. The Chiefs are once again, like, one of the best three teams in the league, I think.
Danny Kelly
Winners or losers? Winners and losers. Craig, your big winner from the day, Baker. Yes. So the correct answer.
Danny Hy
Yeah, it's the B. The, the Bucks beat the Niners 30 to 19. This game was, this game was a bloodbath. Both these teams are super injured already, and they came in and they both lost like their first or second best player mid game. Like, Fred Warner had a horrible foot and ankle injuries, probably out for the season. And then Abuka on the Bucks hurt his hamstring, was out the second half. But this game in general, Baker is just, is just the best. I didn't watch How I met your mother, but isn't there a whole, like, crazy hot scale thing where it's like, if you're crazy, you need to be that hot to accommodate for the crazy? Baker is, like the craziest and the hottest at quarterback right now. I don't, I can't. I honestly don't know if there's ever been a quarterback that has exuded the spirit of football more than Baker Mayfield.
Craig Worldbeck
He's the, he's the quarterback embodiment, the human embodiment of smelling salts.
Danny Hy
Yes.
Craig Worldbeck
You just watch him and you're like.
Danny Hy
Fuck, that is like, if you had to make like an 80s football movie and you had to craft a character like quarterback, quarterback, it would be Baker.
Danny Kelly
And what's incredible, you don't have to change his name either.
Danny Hy
Baker Mayfield's perfect.
Danny Kelly
Great name.
Danny Hy
It's rare you get a combo of somebody who's this fun and crazy, but also really good. Like, he's probably the MVP of the league right now, but he's also, like, his antics and his personality and all that stuff is so infectious. The play of the day, in my opinion, was the, was the third and 14 in the third quarter where he basically drops back, looks like he's going to get sacked like 10 yards behind the line of script, ducks under the sack, two guys on him.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, yeah.
Danny Hy
Breaks free and then somehow manages to scramble 14 yards. Makes like three guys miss, dives over the first downline. He's just, he's just the most fun quarterback in the league. I, I, I, he has to be the most. He. The biggest fan favorite quarterback in the league is Baker Mayfield by a mile.
Craig Worldbeck
Craig, you are so right that I think over the years there's been a lot of guys that like, try and exude his personality, and it's like, a little bit forced and cringe. Contrived feeling. Yeah. Like, it. Like, with Baker, it's real. There's been so many videos lately coming out there. There was one from last week against the Seahawks where he's just talking shit to this guy in the stands in the tunnel. He's like, we'll see you at halftime. We'll see at halftime.
Danny Hy
Whatever parking lot. He was like, calling him a pussy.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. You're Baker Mayfield.
Danny Hy
You're an NFL player, and you're talking to some fan.
Craig Worldbeck
That's what I'm talking. Like, he. At the end of the game, he went and found that guy and was like, what's up now, bitch? He, like, ran out of the tunnel.
Danny Hy
Somebody asked him, they were like, oh, you know, have you kind of, like, turned up the heat, like, lately, like, this year? And he was like, no, I've always been this way.
Craig Worldbeck
We.
Danny Hy
I. We just weren't good.
Craig Worldbeck
We just labeled it different.
Danny Hy
He's like, I've always been this way. This is just who I am.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Did he actually just say, yes, same, different day or something?
Craig Worldbeck
Yes, pretty much.
Danny Kelly
He's. He's unbelievable. And I. I agree. I mean, he probably is the mvp and also, not more importantly or whatever, but more fun if your team or whatever, whoever that you root for was just, like, deleted or whatever. And you're like, okay, you get to pick a new team for this season. You would 100% pick Baker Mayfield first. Like, of all the players you don't get to root for. He is, like, so head and shoulders above everyone else of, like, man, I want to root for that guy. Like, he's kind of why fantasy football exists is because if you have Baker Mayfield, you're like, oh, my God, this guy's on my team.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Do you guys remember when I went on that long rant about him ripping passes? Just fucking rips passes. Nobody rips a pass harder than Baker Mayfield. He just sits back there and rips passes all day long.
Danny Kelly
And they won the game because. So Baker completed 17 to 23 passes, 256 yards, two touchdowns. And the other play, if that wasn't the play of the game, that was the play of the day, was the third and 14th scramble where. And Jim Nance is like, baker, no shot. Oh. Oh, yes, he does have a chance. And. But the other play of the day, if it wasn't, that was that long touchdown pass, the Tez Johnson. That was unbelievable.
Danny Hy
That was the same. I believe that was the same drive. I think it was because he converted that first down, he then two plays.
Danny Kelly
Later, and Tess Johnson was talking about how he was like, I'm getting MVP chance. Isn't that weird? And Sterling Shepard's like.
Craig Worldbeck
He was like, I haven't done enough for that.
Danny Kelly
He's like, it's like the spongebob meme. It was like, how do we tell him It's.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
He's like, that's so weird. They're saying I'm the mvp. I barely play.
Craig Worldbeck
Like, wow, that's. That seems premature. Wow.
Danny Hy
I don't know, dude. Baker's just the best. I. I just can't believe how awesome. It's just rare that somebody who's this fun is actually this good.
Danny Kelly
And the only thing, it's like a.
Danny Hy
Jameis Winston type where you're like, oh, I love. He's crazy. I love watching. But Baker's awesome as well.
Danny Kelly
They're 5 and 1, they're winning games, and they're all close. But. Sorry, the. The last thing we have to say about this is the adversity is ridiculous. And. And not in a cliche way, like his whole career. Like this season. John Ledyard posted this just for. Obviously the Niners are banged up too. I'm not. I mean, these are two of the more banked up teams in the entire nfc. But John Ledyard posted that for that final drive that the Buccaneers went and finished the game. Baker was out there with a third string tackle, fifth string guard, the fifth, sixth and seventh string receivers in the backup running back.
Craig Worldbeck
There was. There was a couple guys out there that I'm like, I don't really know who this guy is.
Danny Kelly
Tez Johnson, who ended up making a bunch of plays, was a seventh round pick who was like 145 pounds or whatever.
Craig Worldbeck
There's another Johnson.
Danny Hy
It was Cameron Johnson with a K.
Craig Worldbeck
Cameron Johnson and Craig. I'll give you. Unless you've already seen this, I'll give you $1 million if you know where he went to college.
Danny Hy
I don't. I'll guess. $1 million.
Danny Kelly
$1 million, I bet.
Craig Worldbeck
I will give you a million dollars if you've heard of this school.
Danny Hy
Oh, College of the Redwoods.
Craig Worldbeck
Barton. Barton College.
Danny Hy
I think I've heard of Barton. Right?
Danny Kelly
I know a guy named Barton.
Craig Worldbeck
I don't know. Have you.
Danny Hy
Barton sounds like one of those, like, Netflix.
Danny Kelly
Name three guys who went to Barton.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, you so much. Name five guys that have gone there.
Danny Hy
Will Barton, who used to play for the Nuggets. No, I don't. What is it in, like, Massachusetts? Like, what? In doubt Just guess a college is in like the New England area.
Craig Worldbeck
It's in North Carolina.
Danny Kelly
Oh, shut up. Mike Barton, also North Carolina.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, totally. But anyway, yeah, Cameron Johnson, who is also 170 pounds. They have two guys that are like 170 pounds or less in Cameron Johnson and Tez Johnson. I love Tez Johnson so I'm excited to see him play. But yeah, they are absolutely down to just the drags of their. Their depth chart at this point. It's crazy.
Danny Kelly
I know Barton's a small school because I googled Barton college schedule and their actual academic calendar came up first. That's how you know it's not really a football school. Holy shit. Okay, sorry. Stealing a bit from Craig here. The Barton football schedule on these team. North Greenville.
Craig Worldbeck
Sure.
Danny Kelly
Delta state. They lost 45 to nothing to Delta State.
Danny Hy
Delta State Sounds like it. Like a TV show college because they.
Danny Kelly
Couldn'T license 100%, dude. All right, these are Ferrum Barton played F E R R U M. Never heard of that. And then sounds like it's a Star.
Craig Worldbeck
Wars ass name right there.
Danny Hy
This is D1 programs.
Danny Kelly
I can't.
Craig Worldbeck
No, this is D2.
Danny Kelly
Certainly not D1. The Ferrum Panthers, they also beat the Chowan University Hawks. C H O J N. And then they just, they had homecoming. It was just again, shorter. The college's name is shorter.
Craig Worldbeck
Wow. 500, 105 years of Barton Bulldogs football.
Danny Kelly
Incredible shout outs to Barton. Email us at Ringer Fantasy.
Craig Worldbeck
We don't know about Barton emails at Ring of Fantasy.
Danny Kelly
If you know anything about Barton or Ferrum dk, who's your winner of the day?
Craig Worldbeck
My winner is Drake May. You know, obviously I know Bill Simmons is going to have a long talk about this on his pod too, but I definitely also sound like you're dreading that. I'm just saying it's going to be a little repetitive for those who are listening to Bill Simmons podcast. But that's okay because he is playing extremely good football right now. Drake May is Today he had 261 passing yards, three touchdowns, no picks. Also added 28 yards as a rusher. He led all quarterbacks in EPA for drop back pass a rating second only to Jordan Levin success rate. Although I did, I did write this down before Mahomes, but Mahomes might have jumped in front of him. Either way, he did all that despite a 42% pressure rate. He only took one sack. And now the Pats have won four to five. And I know that some of the opponents that they played are not that good. But I mean in those last five games May has nine touchdowns and one pick. He's averaging almost 250 passing yards a game, 9.3 yards per attempt in that which is second in the NFL. He's third in EPA for draft back and pass rating. Fifth and explosive pass rate. So it's not just dink and dunk. I mean he's doing a little bit of everything and he looks really good. After one week Heifetz and I were texting Pat's beat writers being like dude, is Drake May any good actually? And, and now after this like five, five weeks later, I'm just like he looks like obviously a franchise quarterback for them. So that's really exciting from their point of view.
Danny Hy
My intrusive thought watching this game is that like Drake May is not just good.
Craig Worldbeck
Like he's great.
Danny Hy
He might be like really good.
Craig Worldbeck
Like yeah, like, like up there.
Danny Hy
Yes. I, I think Drake May is going to be like almost, almost Josh Allen. Like that's where I'm at. Drake May watching him already looks to me like he's on that path.
Danny Kelly
Drake May looks like he might leapfrog burrow and the Bengals as like the joining the Lamar Ravens, Josh Bills, Chiefs, Mahomes tier in the afc. Obviously Mahomes almost kind of gets his own tier cause he's actually made Super Bowls and the other guys haven't. But I mean one Mahomes s. Josh Allen esque, whatever you want to call it, the, the flip Drake May had to Travion Henderson where he ended up getting a first down was one of those where I was kind of amazed a rookie could have that poise. That was amazing. But the other one, the, the whole the holy shit play of the game honestly didn't count. It was the, the deep ball to. To Diggs that Diggs was called for offensive pass interference which was a pretty ticky tacky. But that ball was, it looked fake. It was so perfect and beautiful and it was just amazing. All three of Drakeway's touchdowns were 20 plus yard throws under pressure which just.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Plus he had like another one that got called back on phantom ass call.
Danny Hy
I was going up against him in fantasy this week and it felt like every drive he completed a 50 yard pass. Half of them were called back. But I couldn't believe how good his deep ball was today. I mean he couldn't miss.
Craig Worldbeck
Well yeah, like Craig Craig, you mentioned like your intrusive thoughts. Like my. I've always compared him and think of him in kind of the same mold as Justin Herbert. There was a couple of plays where I. My intrusive thought was like, whoa, that kind of. That. The way the ball jumped off his hand on those deep balls, and it was just like a perfect spiral and high velocity. I was like, damn. Kind of reminds me a little bit of Herbert.
Danny Hy
Yeah. I mean, it's. It's hard to. I mean, there's. There's a lot of really good quarterbacks, so it's hard. I mean, you. You can Josh Mahomes, Lamar Burrow, and you're already. It's like, can anybody break the top four? That's our. That's would be pretty difficult. But right now, I know you have Herbert. I'm kind of like, if you're. If you're restarting right now and you have to draft quarterbacks, I don't know. He, like, he might be like, fit.
Danny Kelly
Drake is really high because of the age, but I actually think the more interesting question is, you have to win a game next week. Who do you take? Mahomes is obviously first, I think, but, like, Lamar is out.
Craig Worldbeck
Right.
Danny Kelly
Joe Burrow's out. Like, they're not healthy, like, right now.
Craig Worldbeck
I see.
Danny Hy
Okay.
Danny Kelly
You have to win a game next week. Who are you taking? I feel like it's Mahomes. It's like, it's Josh. I think Herbert's, Herbert, Baker, Dak, Zach, Drake. Like Drake. Drake May is really.
Craig Worldbeck
But yeah, dude.
Danny Hy
Also, every Patriots receiver looks the same to me. Like, they're all out. Everyone's like 8, 6, or 5. They're all like 5, 11. I never. It's. It's like they're trying to trick the defense by making everybody look the same. It's like they all have the same single bubble letter and they're all similar height.
Danny Kelly
The font on all their names is crazy.
Danny Hy
Yeah. I'm like, I don't know whose catching passes. I can never tell. They got. They got a good system over there. I just do know it's not going to tray on Henderson. That's what I do, dude. I will.
Danny Kelly
Trayvon Henderson had one of those moments today. It was such an ick where Drake B was rolling right. It could have really used Trivian Henderson to go and block a guy directly or run a route. And Trayvon Henderson. Andrew Callahan at the called it a Madden glitch. And it really did look like he just kept shuffling like it was a drill. He had no idea Drake Bay was there. It was. It was a huge ick.
Danny Hy
Did we burn him last week? We're doing it this week.
Danny Kelly
I was going to say we should burn him again. I was like, oh, wait, we already burned Trivia Henderson.
Danny Hy
I. I agnized over who should I start? Hassan Haskins or Trav Henderson? Turns out they both suck.
Danny Kelly
The answer is always neither.
Danny Hy
Or I didn't have any other options anyway.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, Drake May. Yeah, he's good. It's. Honestly, it sucks.
Craig Worldbeck
Let's not get ahead of ourselves.
Danny Hy
But no, I'm getting ahead. My intrusive thought is that he's going to win a Super bowl and he's going to be a Hall of Famer. That's my intrusive thought. That's what I felt today.
Danny Kelly
That was better than really good.
Craig Worldbeck
In your bones.
Danny Kelly
Second take. That was good. It's better than the first time when you were like, really good.
Craig Worldbeck
That one was more decisive by a lot.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it was good.
Danny Hy
I. I meant more like, like, you knew what. Like I, you know, I was saying, like really good.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
You know, he was insinuating. Read between the lines.
Danny Hy
Yeah, you knew it.
Danny Kelly
Say it again. I like these way you said that.
Danny Hy
Really good.
Danny Kelly
Oh, that was good.
Craig Worldbeck
Don't. Not that far. It's too much.
Danny Kelly
They do too much. Dk. Any other winners?
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, the Aaron Rodgers DK Metcalfe connection is a win, a winner.
Danny Hy
Okay. Fuck yeah. Dk.
Craig Worldbeck
Cool. This is something that I. I doubted in the off season.
Danny Hy
Sure, they all did. They all did.
Craig Worldbeck
I kind of doubted Rogers in general. And then I doubted that Rogers would like DK Metcalf because DK Metcalf kind of like, you know, he does his thing, you know. No, not like personally, but just like on the field.
Danny Kelly
So professional.
Craig Worldbeck
And man, there was one play today in particular where Rogers hit a back shoulder or it was like a deep throw down the sideline and it went. He snuck it in the only place like he could have put it down the field, like 30 yards. And it just like slow, softly settled into DK Metcalf's hands like 30 yards down the field or whatever it was. So I, I'm very impressed with their. Their connection this year. Like, DK Metcalfe is consistently making pretty big plays for him. We had four catches, 95 yards and a touchdown today. Steelers easily handled the Browns. So, yeah, I just wanted to capitulate a little bit there and give Craig some credit for all his Aaron Rodgers faith during the off season. Like, that connection in particular looks pretty strong.
Danny Hy
Rogers is a man of faith and now so much now. Rogers's arm, to me, can still do everything he wants it to do. There is nothing that is limiting him from a strength and accuracy perspective. Despite his age, he can still make any throw he wants.
Danny Kelly
He also had really impressive scrambling stuff today. I think he looked better as a scrambler today and I think people forget like that is. That was like the hallmark. It wasn't just Rogers arm talent, it was the. I mean, you know, we kind of all getting all tizzy about Mahomes, but like Rogers was. Was just as good moving outside the pocket probably as anyone has ever been ever. And he had flashes of that today. It doesn't always have to be like a 10 out of 10amazing, but he just was making stuff. He didn't look at any point like he was like for what is he 41? 42?
Danny Hy
Yeah, I think 41.
Danny Kelly
He did not look 41 today. At various times moving out of the pot. Sometimes he does.
Danny Hy
I know, but he didn't get sacked today against Miles Garrett and the Steelers young crappy offensive line, which I thought was super impressive. I, I think it was underrated. That last year was the. The year after tearing his Achilles and this is the year after the year after. And it's like, I think it still applies even though you're 41, 42 years old. He does look better because he's had a year of recovery now under his belt.
Craig Worldbeck
So Craig, what was that play? I can't. I'm trying to remember. I'm trying to picture it. There was a play, I don't think it was completed, but he put it into the back of the end zone or something like that. And you met, you. You texted us about it. There was like an. He made an incredible throw that I, I don't, I don't remember if he actually completed or not, but it was like.
Danny Hy
I think you're talking about the, the touchdown to Connor Hayward, I think.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Danny Kelly
That was great.
Danny Hy
Across his body, back of the end zone like only. I mean it was an unbelievable throw.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hy
And the weird like tight end stuff that Arthur Smith is doing is really working. They're using Darnell Washington really smartly. John who? Smith, Friarmouth, like Connor Hayward. It's all these just like big tight ends running across the field and Rogers is like bootlegging and hitting all these guys and Metcalf is basically a tight end. They're all. This is like big trucks that they.
Craig Worldbeck
Get momentum and Washington is a frickin wagon man. He's out there. He looks like a tackle.
Danny Kelly
I mean it's kind of what the Bills did last year with the sixth Offensive lineman. It's it works.
Danny Hy
If Collinsworth got his eyes on Darnell was Jaylen Moore. He'd be freaking out.
Danny Kelly
Imagine what Colin Worth learns about him. My winner is really simple. My winner is the New York football Giants. Jackson.
Craig Worldbeck
We buried the lead.
Danny Kelly
I know it was Thursday.
Danny Hy
A buddy of mine was like I sprinted to your podcast on Friday morning because I thought you guys were going to talk about the Giants. And then he realized we recorded.
Danny Kelly
Did I not text you multiple times?
Craig Worldbeck
Topper.
Danny Kelly
How many times did I ask you.
Craig Worldbeck
Guys to do it? Drunk high fits really well.
Danny Kelly
I was drunk and I wanted to record at the top of the and.
Danny Hy
I spoke on the phone. It was midnight. His time was walking home from a bar. I He was like he was like dude Craig. He was like the Giants are better than the Eagles. And I was like I I think they are. I think you're right.
Danny Kelly
I was displeased.
Craig Worldbeck
This was on one I had I had so many people reach out to me and be like Heitz is really having having the night of I did.
Danny Kelly
I my honest to God review of the Giants Eagles game was I think I actually forgot that football's I had.
Craig Worldbeck
You forgot that this is the whole.
Danny Kelly
Point Enjoyed watching I had not really truly enjoyed watching my team play football like start to finish for a football game in years. Like I literally that that Giants Vikings playoff game was unbelievable and it that.
Craig Worldbeck
Is like the world grinds you down high Fitz and he's back.
Danny Kelly
I can't tell you how much fun I had watching this game. I was absolute disbelief. I don't even know where to begin but actually I exactly do. Jackson Dart and Cam scatter Boo. I wouldn't trade them for the world. Certainly not Ash and Genti like they are. If Baker is number one in the most rootable lovable players of the season I think the dart scatter boo combination is clearly second they have emerged three.
Craig Worldbeck
Or scatter boo three touchdowns.
Danny Hy
Dude. They're bizarre nuts.
Danny Kelly
They're so weird.
Craig Worldbeck
Like I think pros of all time.
Danny Kelly
Like there's the stats blah blah. Like he was number two running back this week in fantasy at three touchdowns 110 scriven. I don't even care I they're booping each other like pit bulls and barking.
Danny Hy
SC yes that was I'm assuming you saw the same tweet then somebody was like they communicate like pitbull.
Danny Kelly
Crazy people. They're insane. Scaboo is the best comp I heard Jordan Ronaldo ESPN had this great story called him the Tasmanian Devil. Yeah I, I, I don't know how we went through the whole draft process without talking about this, but Cam Scaboo, the story went big this week that Cam Scatterboo's mom told the story that when he came Scatterboo as a kid, he would put on his older brother's shoulder pads from football and he would run into telephone poles.
Craig Worldbeck
It's just like, it's so believable doing it.
Danny Kelly
You hear that and you're like, totally tracks.
Danny Hy
Like, he's concussion proof. Because he is a concussion. He can't get one. He already has. He is one.
Craig Worldbeck
Dude. This is like, I'm probably like overthinking this, but he has the thickest neck I've ever seen in my life.
Danny Hy
Structurally weird head shape.
Craig Worldbeck
Mike Tyson.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Unbelievable. What's that, dude?
Craig Worldbeck
I, it's like, it's insane.
Danny Kelly
So the funniest post I saw all weekend was someone was like, so if Cam Scatter Boo got concussed, like, how would they know?
Danny Hy
That's, yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's literally concussion proof.
Danny Kelly
Like the friendship that they've, they're the Most like, like 21 year old morons that are just like bliss. They're like giant, I, I don't know, hyphens.
Craig Worldbeck
I sent you the text that was like, it was like a picture of Dart and Scatter Boo after the game, like, posing for the camera. And it was like, me and my boy after we crushed 59 beers and talked to zero women.
Danny Kelly
It's unfolding, the posing dark goes in the tent and it's like, Scatter Boo runs into the tent to check on him and they like shove him out. And then like, Dable's like circling, being like, what's going on in there? And he's getting letters, by the way.
Craig Worldbeck
Is 100 in true?
Danny Hy
He really wants to be.
Craig Worldbeck
Table's like, you guys want to go to Sizzler, catch some grass? Yeah, call me. God bless.
Danny Kelly
Oh, my God. I just, it was honestly just absolutely blissful. That's just Tasmanian devil ass running back we have. And then dart is just good dart. If anything, I'm actually mad at Dable because he loves dart so much. And I'm like, can we just stop getting dart hit? That's my only complaint with this current.
Craig Worldbeck
He won't do that.
Danny Hy
Dart is like ejecting himself into people on the sideline. Like he, you know what I mean? He's like spearheading. He spends instead of running out of.
Danny Kelly
Bounds a little too much time around Scatter Boo and like I need bad influence is never going to change nor should he Dart can't. He needs to stop taking those hits. But I, I actually, I can't remember the last time I loved two athletes so purely so immediately I'm like I. These are already two like iconic giants.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
I'm so happy for you. High Fitz was desperately trying to get an argument with me on Thursday night about the Genti thing and I was just like I'm just. I don't even want to argue. I, I don't want to not like Scatter Boo. I'm all in on Scott Scott who got me 30 points this week. So I'm not even going to argue with you anymore. If you want Scatter Boo more than Genti, I'm giving you.
Danny Kelly
The other thing I have to mention is that it was especially delicious that Saquon Barkley has apparently been filming a documentary for five years including film to the other end of the Joe Shane call from Hard Knocks which is absolutely mind blowing that he was also making a documentary. Is anything more media current landscape Craig than just Saquon was also making a doc for himself.
Danny Hy
I hate people like like filming documentaries.
Danny Kelly
Of themselves while they're so yeah. He releases it obviously time to this Giants Eagles game on Prime. Prime is the game. Blah blah blah blah. It's out there. And then you know What? Saquon had 31 yards in the first two plays and then he had basically nine meaningful rush yards after the first minute of the game.
Craig Worldbeck
You know what the best revenge is after Breakup High Fitz? Just being happy. Yeah, that's. I feel like that's what you are right now with, with barking.
Danny Hy
Happiness is the best revenge. I, I can't remember two, two players on a team having more personality that like shapes the team. That immediately permeates the team. Like just like, like the, the. I, I just can't get over the two of them and how, how immediately like famous and iconic they are as a duo.
Danny Kelly
Do you remember how you said that Caleb Williams was the first like Gen Z quarterback? I think it's dart. I like, I know that literally, but I just dart and start.
Danny Hy
No, you're right. Dart exudes more Gen Z characteristics.
Danny Kelly
I just. It's bizarre. I. I don't know. It's. Anyway, he likes the new Star wars sequels because they're vintage. You know what I mean? Like, it's like right. Anyway, I just, I can't say enough about them. It's been an absolute joy.
Danny Hy
Yeah. I don't. Do you guys believe in jinxes. Do you. Do you want me to. I could say something right now that would jinx things. Or. I don't.
Danny Kelly
Oh, just, you know. No, just. I don't want to hear it.
Danny Hy
You don't want it. Okay.
Danny Kelly
I was gonna pretend he's like, actually.
Craig Worldbeck
Do not say that. How dare you.
Danny Kelly
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Craig Worldbeck
Jackson, Smith and Jigba question do you think he has ascended to being a top five receiver in the NFL right now, like, full stop.
Danny Hy
I do.
Craig Worldbeck
He. He is having an absolutely insane year. I. I've always liked jsn. I liked him in the draft. I was so excited when the Seahawks got him. I don't think I ever at any point was I like, he's going to be one of the best receivers in the NFL, like league wide. I thought he was going to be a very good receiver and probably pretty productive, but he has done so much more already than I ever expected. He leads the NFL and receiving yards right now, 696. He's on pace for nearly 2,000 yards receiving. I don't obviously probably going to taper off and not hit that, but he is literally on pace for 1,972 yards. He's averaging 4.5 yards per route run, which is an absolutely absurd number. You split that number in half. It's still an elite number. He has been incredibly efficient. He has two of the top individual weekly target rates on the season. 57% target rate in week one, 48% week two. He's basically the Seahawks passing game. And I think the cool part about it and maybe the part that less people expected from him coming into the season and coming into his career is he's doing almost all of it on the outside. He's only playing in the slot 19% of the time. He is a real number one receiver. He's averaging over five yards per route run on outside routes, which is tops in the NFL. He has a top five separation score according to fantasy points. He's third in overall route win rate according to fantasy points, behind only Mike Evans and Devonte Adams. He is having an absolutely absurd season, so just wanted to shout him out and I can't even remember what he did today. It was like 150 yards. Hold on, I may pull it up here. Eight catches for 162 yards in the score and the Seahawks 20 to 12 win over the Jags.
Danny Hy
You got to give it to your guy. Schneider, dk.
Craig Worldbeck
I do.
Danny Hy
When Gino and DK left, you were upset. And now look.
Craig Worldbeck
I know they're making me eat my words and I'm happy about it.
Danny Hy
He's. He's fantastic. I honestly think it's like Jamar Chase, it's Justin Jefferson, it's Puka Nukua. And then like JSN's right there, right? He is.
Craig Worldbeck
He just moves differently. I think that's kind of the thing that sticks out to me about him is he's he just. Just has incredible body control. The way he runs routes and. And he can, you know, turn the corner after the catch. The way he can keep his feet in as he's, like, twisting and contorting at the sideline to catch a pass. Like, he just has an incredible, incredible concentration and body control. And, I mean, we always kind of knew that, but I don't. I don't know if I ever knew he would be this electric and this dominant as an outside receiver. So huge credit to the jump he's made this season.
Danny Hy
Big win for Bill Simmons. That was like his. That was his guy. When we did the pod with him in the off season, JSN was his.
Craig Worldbeck
I know. And I, like, again, like you said it, I was a little doubtful that he could really do this, but, man, he's been amazing.
Danny Hy
Mine is, I'm going to do two. I want to quickly just throw out Kendrick Bourne's name because once again, he literally had the same amount of yards last week as he did this week. He's had 142 yards each of the last two weeks. Kendrick Bourne's 30 years old and has had. He's on the Niners, I should say that first. Who lost to the Bucks today. But Kendrick Bourne is 30 years old. He's been playing in the NFL for a long time. He's had one 100 yard game in his career, and he said two in the last two weeks. And he just looks awesome. He's ripping huge plays. Juwan Jennings was back today, but then we found out after the game he said he's been playing with five broken ribs. I wish I knew that.
Danny Kelly
And a high ankle sprain.
Craig Worldbeck
Two ankle sprains, five broken ribs.
Danny Hy
Somebody texted me today asking if they should start Juwan Jennings or somebody else, and I recommended.
Danny Kelly
Dude, if I had two broken ribs, I don't think I would do this show.
Craig Worldbeck
5.
Danny Kelly
I don't think I would do this podcast.
Danny Hy
I would be in pain.
Craig Worldbeck
Why is he out there?
Danny Hy
I know.
Craig Worldbeck
What are we doing?
Danny Kelly
It's one of those where it's like, yeah, I agree, dk. Like, is that. That seems neither safe.
Craig Worldbeck
It's not good for him or the team.
Danny Kelly
How does that help anybody?
Danny Hy
The team doctors approve that. Yeah, get out there.
Danny Kelly
Also, the two different ankle sprains. When he said that, I just like, man, that's.
Danny Hy
Every morning I break my legs and every night I break my arms. That's a spongebob joke for hymens. The other guy I want to throw is George Pickens. I gotta say, this is George Pickens. This is a season where, like, I'm not upset the Steelers got rid of George Pickens. I think if George Pickens were on the Steelers right now, he would. It would be worse than the Metcalf situation, because I think Rogers and Pickens would be a disaster, and Rogers would hate Pickens. And so it's like, a rare thing where I think, like, everything the Seahawks did, they're better off. Everything the Steelers did, they're better off. Everything the Cowboys did, they're better off. Like, the triangle works for everybody. But Pickens is literally the number one wide receiver since CD Lamb went out in fantasy. He's the number three on the season.
Craig Worldbeck
Just overall incredible.
Danny Hy
He's unbelievable. Every play is like a cartoon watching him. But they're all. It's all scoring. Anything can happen. You know those videos of, like, when. When, like, cat owners jokingly will. Will scare their cat jumps?
Danny Kelly
Yeah. They put, like, a cucumber by the. By the bowl, and they, like, freak.
Danny Hy
Out randomly, and you, like, never know which way they're gonna contort yourself. That's what George Pickens is doing. Like, he'll catch the ball and then, like, sidestep somebody and try to hurdle somebody.
Danny Kelly
He gets one good hurdle, and you're like, wow, that's awesome. And then he, like, doesn't like the guy hurdle button.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
And then he just. Just tries to hurdle. I'm like, george, you're, like, falling down. He's standing up. Why are you trying to hurdle him?
Craig Worldbeck
He's having a black cat image is so.
Danny Kelly
Dude, that's the thing.
Craig Worldbeck
Funny cats freak out all of a sudden. He's just like.
Danny Kelly
It's like tin foil.
Danny Hy
It's like he's getting like. It's like he has a shot collar on and we don't know it. And he gets zapped sometimes.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. So he. But, man, he. But he has been good. I think every theory that we had about him prior to the season so.
Danny Hy
Far has come true. Unbelievable. And he was in the Steelers. They just never threw the ball.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. This is by far best quarterback situation that he's had. Obviously, it helps, too, that CD Lamb is not, like, bogarting 14 targets a game anymore.
Danny Kelly
What was that word?
Craig Worldbeck
Bow guarding?
Danny Hy
Bogarting.
Craig Worldbeck
Dwayne. Dwayne McFarland uses.
Danny Hy
You never heard the word bow guarding?
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hy
To Bogart your way pranked. To Bogart your way in. You've never heard that with a D or a T?
Craig Worldbeck
Bogart. Humphrey Procreat or key?
Danny Hy
Yes.
Danny Kelly
Is that actually, like, what we're talking. It's a reference to Humphrey Bogart. Is that. Or is it wow.
Craig Worldbeck
Dictionary.com says appropriate or. Sorry. Appropriate. Or keep something, especially a lit marijuana cigarette.
Danny Kelly
If you're bogarting, you're a Bogarting. Okay. All right.
Craig Worldbeck
Taking. Stealing it.
Danny Hy
It's from Humphrey Bogart, I believe. It's a slang.
Danny Kelly
He didn't share pot.
Danny Hy
Perhaps not.
Danny Kelly
I guess he didn't. No. Puff, puff, pass from Humphrey Bogart. You learn something new every day. Okay. All right. I'm sure there's at least 10, 12 people who also like me, were happy.
Craig Worldbeck
No, I don't think I. I don't judge you for not knowing that.
Danny Kelly
That.
Craig Worldbeck
But that's fine.
Danny Hy
I'm surprised you never heard that Bogart your way in.
Danny Kelly
No, I. Actually, it's not. You know what? Doesn't matter. Anyway, speaking. But to your point though, Craig, about how everyone's happy with that little arrangement where it's like the Steelers or Seahawks are happy that JSN gets room and then the Steelers are happy that Metcalf's doing well and the Cowboys are happy that Pickens and it wouldn't have worked. The fourth person of that is Rico Dowdle, who is certainly. Where it's like the Cowboys have Javante, that's fine. But then the Panthers.
Craig Worldbeck
The Rico Vonte is happy too.
Danny Kelly
He's happy. But then Rico's happy, tells the Cowboys to buckle up, which is kind of big talk from a guy who kind of has one good game. He leaves Dallas last year is a thousand rushing yards.
Craig Worldbeck
Thousand yards.
Danny Kelly
A thousand yards. Wait, you know What? He is 480 scrimmage yards the last two weeks. Like, that's incredible.
Danny Hy
Here.
Craig Worldbeck
Here's how good Rico Dowdle has been. He's got me digging up quote tweets from 2020 and 2021 that I wrote about Rico Dowdle and retweeting him. Dude, you know, a little self.
Danny Hy
Let the people know.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, a little self promotion because I love Rico Daddle. Well, I didn't love him, but I thought he was really.
Danny Hy
Please, you cook those up with chat GPT. I know it.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. So the Panthers beat Dallas 32.
Craig Worldbeck
Called up Elon and was like, hey, hey, can you post something for me?
Danny Kelly
Panthers beat Dallas 30 to 27. And we were joking last week that Rico doubt Will. Last week ran for 206 yards and we were joking that he'll just do. Will he do it again?
Craig Worldbeck
No one will do that again.
Danny Kelly
He'll actually do better. He did do better. He had 239 scrimmage yards, the most in Panthers history. They've had Christian McCaffrey and Jonathan Stewart, D' Angelo Williams. So maybe it's not the oldest team in the NFL, but they've had some good fucking players. And Rico, that's a good stat. Also has more scrimmage yards in two straight weeks than Christian McCaffrey ever did at any point for the team. 473 scrimmage yards for Rico Daddle the last two weeks. He's the number one running back in all of fantasy football this week and over the last two weeks.
Danny Hy
Do you think Chuba Hubbard just got Drew Bledsoed? Is he fucked?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, dude. Dave Canales was asked after the game, what will. Will. What will Rico Dowdle's role be when Chuba Hubbard comes back? And Dave Canales smiled and said, great question.
Craig Worldbeck
He. He said this last week, he's like, good problem to have.
Danny Hy
I wonder how good the. The. The starter in Carolina would have to be for Rico Dowdle not to win the starting job. Like, which running backs would win it back, you know?
Danny Kelly
Oh, that's. I could.
Craig Worldbeck
I'll tell you, right.
Danny Kelly
Gibbs, McCaffrey, Saquon, Jonathan Taylor. I think that's the end of the list.
Danny Hy
You don't.
Danny Kelly
Henry, Derek, Henry, Henry and I guess Bijan and Josh Jacobs. No, like, he wouldn't beat Jacobs.
Craig Worldbeck
We're talking now, but Jacobs and Bucky.
Danny Hy
Irving, they would lose.
Danny Kelly
Well, not straight bench, but they would begin to lose drives.
Craig Worldbeck
Committee.
Danny Hy
You think Bucky Irving would lose drives?
Danny Kelly
Absolutely. I think even McCaffrey or Saquon would lose one extra drive.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
If a guy came in and had the most scrimmage yards in the history of the team. I think. I do think Saquon will play. What about less drive?
Danny Hy
But, like, let's be real here.
Danny Kelly
Scatterbu would never take you off the field.
Danny Hy
No, he's different.
Danny Kelly
I mean, quite literally built in.
Craig Worldbeck
He does have a straight. He's a strange body.
Danny Kelly
He does a strange body. Strange guy.
Danny Hy
I mean, we didn't even talk about.
Danny Kelly
How Scatteraboo's always just like, wow, it just has no. Dude, there are stupid.
Craig Worldbeck
His flips are insane. He has no flip with, like a little twist.
Danny Kelly
People say he chews so loudly. That is like the commentary from the teammates on Scatter Boo that he's crazy.
Danny Hy
Everyone says he's not. Like, his teammates are like, he's crazy.
Craig Worldbeck
Craig, that was actually kind of one of the, like, pre draft narratives that you were hearing was like, he's just.
Danny Kelly
The video of him at Arizona State, where they're walking out and they're kind of like being delayed to go on the field. So he's just like, like smashing his head with the helmet against the brick wall while all his teammates are coming.
Craig Worldbeck
He's a throwback.
Danny Hy
Yeah. People like his teammates don't say. He's a dog, man. He grinds. They're like, no, he's nuts. Like, he's out of his mind.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, yeah.
Danny Kelly
I love him anyway. But yeah, so he wouldn't lose time. Everyone else would lose time to rec anyway. But I do want to shout out who's 17 yards shy of being the fifth player ever with back to, back to a rushing yard game. So, yeah, Dowdle, incredible.
Danny Hy
Huge sell high.
Danny Kelly
Probably great.
Danny Hy
I mean, the most obvious sell high of all season.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hy
Rico Dowdle on the fucking Panthers.
Craig Worldbeck
He played the two, like two of the worst rushing defenses.
Danny Hy
I mean, get rid of him if you can.
Craig Worldbeck
The Dolphins and the Cowboys, I know.
Danny Hy
It'S hard to like come by running back, so you probably don't want to, but if you have, if you are flush with running backs, I would get.
Danny Kelly
Rid of or believe more yards next week.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, Craig, you said this shit last week.
Danny Hy
They're playing the jets next week.
Danny Kelly
So you're right about the sell high because the Dowdle thing reminds me of like the, literally the beginning of Peaky Blinders. This isn't even a spoiler because it's like the first episode, but when they do the trick with the horse and they're like, no, no, you let it win the first race, then you do it again. You let it win the second race, the third race, that's where you make all your money. That's when the horse loses. Debutante ball for the player maturing in front of our very. I refuse to give anyone for this.
Danny Hy
One maturing today I'm going to give it to. I was watching, I just felt it. Matthew golden today, I feel like entered a new level. A rookie coming off the by for Green Bay. They won today. They beat the Bengals. He looked like he had arrived. You know, he was in his dress, twitchy.
Craig Worldbeck
He's so fast. He is very fast.
Danny Hy
He had 71 yards by halftime. He had over 100 yards at the end of the game. I just thought he looked electric and, and looked different with the ball in his hands than most wide receivers and that's it. He's, he's matured, he's.
Danny Kelly
I, I, I. You guys know I love Matthew Gold. I'm sure a lot of people listening are very Frustrated with me month because I feel like if people have Matthew.
Danny Hy
Golden preaching that you have to wait.
Danny Kelly
This is why. This is why.
Craig Worldbeck
Because the post post by rookie bump is a thing.
Danny Kelly
He's, he's golden. Looks like the kind of guy that could be a huge contributor of the second half. Also, while we're doing the debutant ball for player who matured, I also think we should do a little golden bachelor while we're on Packers, Bengals. Because I got to tell you, my intrusive thought was I actually kind of thought when the Bengals cut it to six, I kind of thought the Bengals were going to win.
Danny Hy
Yeah, There was a moment.
Craig Worldbeck
Flaco had a really good second half.
Danny Kelly
I, I was kind of, I, my going into this, the Bengals whole they trade for Flaco thing was kind of, I thought it would be dead. Dove do not eat. They're like, he was, they were going to score six points and we're going to be like, what did we expect? He's 40 years old.
Danny Hy
It was like Jake Browning was the 40th worst quarterback this year. Joe Flacco was the 39th worst quarterback.
Danny Kelly
And it looked that way. And then they were kind of moving the ball and they, they were down 14. They got two point conversion to go down six. I'm like, are the Bengals going to win this in regulation? And I kind of thought they were gonna.
Danny Hy
No, I kind of agree with you. There was also a play, the play where T. Higgins almost scored.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hy
He put in so much effort that I feel like he wouldn't have done with Jake Browning. It, it felt like he was, felt like he was trying extra hard because he was happy that fly was throwing him the football.
Danny Kelly
That was, it's like, Kelsey, tonight, Sunday football, when he like got landed on his head and then remembered, oh yeah, reach back to knocked over the pylon. I'm like, would he have done that if it wasn't like Sunday football? Taylor Swift was there.
Craig Worldbeck
I know.
Danny Kelly
Kind of remembered. It's like, wait, that was good. It's so over. We're so back.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, D.K.
Danny Hy
Do it.
Danny Kelly
I, I, I, I know what's back. It's. We're so back is DK's love of baseball is back.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, baby. I'm, I'm way back in on baseball.
Danny Hy
Can we quickly do a mini five minutes on you going to that Mariners game?
Danny Kelly
Yes.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. So I, I was lucky enough to get tickets to go to the game five, the alds.
Danny Hy
And you flew, which I thought was you flew to Seattle.
Danny Kelly
You live two hours from Seattle. With drive. Why did you not fly?
Craig Worldbeck
It's sick. Because flying is better than driving.
Danny Kelly
You hate planes. You hate flying. You complain about it all the time.
Craig Worldbeck
No, I'm. I'm actually back in on flying too.
Danny Hy
If there's no traffic, like as the bird flies. How far is belling him from Seattle? If there's no traffic in a plane? No.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, no. Driving to the. To the field, probably like an hour and 45 minutes.
Danny Kelly
So you went to the airport and how long is the flight?
Craig Worldbeck
Had a beer at the airport. We made a whole day of it. We flew down. The flight's like 25 minutes.
Danny Kelly
That's crazy.
Craig Worldbeck
Hop in a cab and we're there. And we're there.
Danny Kelly
Sure.
Craig Worldbeck
Also, my buddy paid for him with points, so it was like. Not like.
Danny Kelly
Okay, sure. Anyway, so for those who don't know.
Craig Worldbeck
So, yeah.
Danny Kelly
Game five of Mariners versus Tigers. Alds. Yeah, Tigers. Mariners.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
And I mean the Tigers at school. Tariq Scuba pitching was like. I mean, the best pitcher in baseball.
Craig Worldbeck
Pitcher in baseball.
Danny Kelly
And the Mariners, you know, you guys hadn't want to play off and he.
Craig Worldbeck
Stuff too. He had 13 cases in like 6.
Danny Kelly
18 batters struck out. 13, which is.
Craig Worldbeck
Why'd you take him out?
Danny Kelly
I was wondering that. Like, oh, my. Like the nerds. Like, oh, my God, he can't face the order three times. I'm like, he struck out everybody. Anyway, it ended up being. It went 15 innings and it was basically the best playoff game in at least a couple years. But that was one of the better playoff games I've ever seen in baseball.
Craig Worldbeck
I mean, it was. It. It. It'll go down immediately in Mariners lore for sure, in terms of like one of the all time great games. Obviously it was a, you know, decisive game. Sent the sentiments to the ALCS, which they won, by the way, in Game 1 in Toronto tonight, which go m.
Danny Kelly
But you stayed all 15 innings.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, yeah. We missed our flight back.
Danny Hy
If you left during that. Are you fucking kidding me?
Craig Worldbeck
We missed our flight back.
Danny Hy
Oh, too bad. I guess you gotta take a break.
Danny Kelly
Oh, my God.
Craig Worldbeck
It's like, ah, well, I guess better go to the airport.
Danny Hy
I guess we have to grab an.
Craig Worldbeck
Uber, I would say. And look, I. I admit, like, I'm jumping back on sort of the Mariners bandwagon here or whatever. Fair weather fan. But I. I had going back all through my childhood, I loved the Mariners. I was going to like 20 games a year.
Danny Hy
You're from Bellingham and you lived in Seattle.
Danny Kelly
It doesn't really.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. I'm establishing why I went to this game. So anyways, but it was like, I, I think I. I was trying to make a list of the top sports moments for me. Um, and I don't know where the Sonics come in here because they won some games in the finals, but this was, I think, the fourth best sports moment for me. The Seahawks winning the super bowl, number one. Seahawks winning the game before that, the NFC championship game against the 49ers, the Richard Sherman tip interception, and then the Seahawks winning the NFC Championship game over the packers, where they had that miracle comeback. I think those were my first three. This would be number four for me. I don't remember 95, like, vividly enough to like really put it in that top because the Mariners had a legendary run in 1995. But, man, I. I was talking to Jack Sanders about this. Like, postseason baseball just hits differently. I, I think postseason baseball is like one of the best products especially. And I know this is going to probably wrinkle some people, but with the pitch count or with the pitch clock, like, it speeds everything up. It's like so intense. Every at bat is so intense.
Danny Hy
True drama.
Danny Kelly
I actually think the, I mean, the most underrated thing that's happened in all of sports in the last five or six years is that they just totally fixed baseball and they changed all this stuff. And baseball is the hardest sport to change the rules in anything. And they changed all this and everyone in like two weeks into the new rules was like, yep, this works. And this baseball. And also Ryan o', Hanlon, who used to work here at the Ringer and said to me in 2018, he just offhand at the, literally at the water cooler was like, yeah, if baseball had the football schedule where you played once a week, 18 times and just single elimination, it'd be the biggest sport in the world. And then walked back to his office and I was like. And I think about that every time there's elimination baseball game where I'm like, it is crazy.
Danny Hy
You could probably say that about every sport. The football just has the best schedule. I mean, the scarcity is the reason why I think half the reason why.
Danny Kelly
I said the world moved toward the what football has to be schedule wise and. But game DK was crazy. 15 inches.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh my God, it was so amazing.
Danny Hy
How long were you there? How long were you in the stadium?
Craig Worldbeck
Probably like 4 o' clock until I don't know when did it came in like 12:30 or something like that.
Danny Kelly
Dude, shout out. There's this guy at John Boy Media who does a lot of Yankee stuff. But there's a Mariners fan there, and they did a time lapse. They like streamed themselves the entire time.
Craig Worldbeck
Time.
Danny Kelly
This guy didn't get up from his chair once.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, really?
Danny Kelly
Time lapse. And he sat in the chair for six and a half hours.
Danny Hy
Dk, did you have two different meals? You were there for so long. Did you have dinner twice?
Craig Worldbeck
No, I just had a hot dog.
Danny Kelly
When did they stop serving beers? Did they stop serving beer and run out and then there were seven more innings. Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
And then everyone's like getting hungover by like the 13th, 14th inning.
Danny Hy
People are waking up from their nap.
Craig Worldbeck
It was. I. I do want to give the game its proper credit though. Like, it was an incredible game. I think the Mariners have one of the most lovable just teams that I've ever rooted for, you know, Big time. Raquel Raleigh hits 60 home runs this year, which is fucking easily the best.
Danny Kelly
Easily the best year for catcher ever at the plate. Which underrated how much catchers have to do on defense because I feel like your rotation is also good. And he's part of that too.
Craig Worldbeck
He's squatting for 15 innings, you know, and make. He made the most insane. Threw a guy out at second. Like it was like the most accurate throw you could pot. Like, it literally led the guy's glove right into his leg.
Danny Hy
I know. Squatting that long. They should just give him his fucking stool. Who cares? Let him sit.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. By the way, if you've noticed, my voice is totally fucked. It's because I was screaming for like six straight hours.
Danny Hy
All these catchers knees are fucked when they're 50 years old.
Craig Worldbeck
Also, one of the underrated storylines of this game. Game was the sea. The Mariners have this like tradition where they have these salmon race each other. I think it's in the eighth inner seventh inning or the eighth inning. I can't remember what it is.
Danny Hy
I. I knew about that.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
But they have. Yeah, they throw them in the market. There's like all the different kinds of salmon will have a race. And Humpy the humpy salmon has never won. Going back.
Danny Kelly
Sorry.
Craig Worldbeck
Humpy the salmon.
Danny Hy
Are they all. Are they all racing upstream?
Craig Worldbeck
Sure. Okay. I think that's kind of like what it's alluding to. Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Okay.
Craig Worldbeck
Humpty.
Danny Hy
I know.
Craig Worldbeck
I thought that was gonna hit way hard. It's called the salmon run. So yes, they're going upstream. But anyway, he's not. He never had won. Going back to the beginning of last year, 162x. I think I saw straight losses and Then he lost in the first race of this game. And then they were like, in the four in the 15th inning, they were like, it. We're doing it again. They ran him out again, and Humpy won. It's so funny, too, because I saw this on Reddit. There was, like, a camera fixed on the Mariners dugout during the salmon run race in between innings, and the Mariners are, like, losing their minds. They're like, all go, like, cheering and shit for fucking Humpy.
Danny Hy
That's awesome.
Craig Worldbeck
Anyway, so that was funny too. But, yeah, the baseball game was absolutely insane when the. When Polanco hit the game winner. I mean, and like, to go back to the game, like, the Mariners had so many opportunities to end it. They had, like, guys in scoring positions.
Danny Kelly
Both teams left multiple people on base for like, two or three innings in a row.
Craig Worldbeck
And it was so intense. I was there with three super hardcore, hardcore Mariners fans, and I just wanted it so much for them because they, you know, pour their heart and souls. They watch everybody game. Like, I really wanted it, like, for those guys to get to experience that. And we were just, like, locked in, everybody around us. We were like, high five. We had, like, made friends with, like, these high school kids in front of us. We're just, like, high fiving them all the time. It was just, like, so fun.
Danny Kelly
They're like, these guys flew here.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, they're so bougie, but, yeah. And then when they hit the game winner, just an unreal moment. Like, it's hard to describe. Like. Like the, you know, the feeling of elation and relief and joy. Like, people are crying in the stands around you. It was so cool.
Danny Hy
I think I. I think, like, the feel and energy. The closest thing I. I could compare to call or playoff baseball is college football. Like, they're similar in terms of just.
Craig Worldbeck
Like, that raw passion, the intensity.
Danny Hy
DK just. You sent us a photo from your seats, and it's just like it. It's. It's beautiful. It truly looks like a theater and it.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, 100%.
Danny Hy
There's just so many people crammed in. The pacing of baseball, where you're always kind of just waiting on every. Every pitch. You're hinging on every moment, every 20 seconds.
Craig Worldbeck
The sound of the ball club are incredible. Like.
Danny Hy
That'S the best. Like, it feels old school. It feels like you're going back in time.
Craig Worldbeck
When you watch between every pitch, they're like the. The pa. People are, like, doing things to pump the crowd up. They got, like, when the new pitcher will come in, they. They drop the lights in the stadium and have, like, fire by the pull pin when he's running in. It's just the dramatic. It was so dramatic and cinematic. It reminded it. Honestly, it reminded me of, like, you guys seen Major League when, you know, the final game. That, like, that whole thing, it's just. I don't know. There's something nostalgic about it. Baseball, you know, baseball is like, one of my first loves in sports. And so it was just so, so cool to be able to experience that and something I'll never forget. And obviously, my voice is completely now.
Danny Hy
Well, I'm pulling for the Mariners, the Dodgers. I want the Bears to win.
Danny Kelly
Hard not to for the Mariners.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, yeah.
Danny Kelly
Yeah. Thank God you guys don't watch enough baseball to know what happened to the Yankees. So. Yeah, that's.
Danny Hy
Yeah. Also, dude, Mariners, they're crushing it on the merch game. I feel like the Mariners merch is sick.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, yeah.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
I agree totally.
Danny Hy
Your hat. I love the color scheme. It's great. I need a new team. You know, the A's are moving to Vegas. I got.
Danny Kelly
You're allowed to get off the A's. The A's have over. You totally have a past. Honestly, just the Mariners. The A's don't literally deserve their fans less than any team in pro sports.
Danny Hy
I agree. John Fisher. I can't support.
Craig Worldbeck
Jump on, man. Jump on the van.
Danny Kelly
No one's done much.
Craig Worldbeck
Should I do it it the Mariners. This is the first ALCS appearance for the Mariners since 2001.
Danny Hy
It was the longest drought, right?
Craig Worldbeck
Well, they had the longest drought of any professional team to make the playoffs, which they snapped a couple years ago. And then this was their first.
Danny Hy
First ALCS was their first 24 years or something, right?
Craig Worldbeck
Yes. First ALCS in 24 years. Plus, I think first home playoff win in 24 years. Wow. So, yeah, I mean, and Seattle people love the Mariners, and it's, like, been a really hard relationship, honestly, with them because there's, you know, there's been years where they've basically just admit they're just in this to look competitive, but not actually win the suit and, like, win the playoffs or win the. Win the World Series. They're, you know, and there's all these variables, and they were. They were just middling for so long. They didn't make the playoffs for 20 something years. And so, yeah, it's like, you know, I think. Think the vibes were out of control. Good. There was actually, like, after we got outside the stadium, there was like, a band playing Nirvana Smells like Teen Spirit and everyone was just losing their minds. I was like this is the most Seattle way to celebrate. So so funny. But yeah, it was great.
Danny Hy
I also like rooting for cities who, who get stripped of teams. Like that's why I root for San Diego because they, they've lost so much and all they have is the Padres now. So I root for the Padres and same thing with the Mariners losing the song or the Seattle losing the song. I always try to root for those cities.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
All right, well we'll. We'll be a baseball pod for the duration of the able B playoffs. Other it's so over. We're so back. I have to say I think this is multiple weeks in a row but I think it's so over for Miami. It's just so over for the Dolphins.
Craig Worldbeck
The vibes are out of control bad.
Danny Kelly
I don't want to take away charges at a cool end of game play. We know that was also maybe a play of the day was Herbert, you know Herbert having that crazy spin out of his sack throws to Lad McConkey. Lad McConkey makes a huge play. Sets of the game winning field bowl. Jim Harbaugh set. After the game I'll think about that day. Burned in my brain. That play burned in my brain until they put dirt over me in my grave. Great.
Danny Hy
Do you think hurting you who's more obsessed with their quarterback, Harbaugh or day ball?
Craig Worldbeck
Different, different types.
Danny Kelly
Harbaugh, it's like a long term thing. Dable is like a short term thing. You know what I'm saying?
Danny Hy
And it's. I think, I think Harbaugh, it's kind of like a spiritual thing and I think day ball is kind of like a physical.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it's, it's. Yes, absolutely.
Craig Worldbeck
Go Sizzler. Catch some.
Danny Kelly
Grab the. But having said that, frankly the entire Chargers Dolphins game has been overshadowed by Tua saying after the game that asking a question about what's wrong why you guys 1 and 5. And he's like it starts with the leadership. And he said we have guys showing up late to player only meetings, guys not showing up up at all to player only meetings. And frankly that, that, that one exchange is going to overshadow the entire game.
Danny Hy
Two is also the captain. He is the leader.
Danny Kelly
It's so funny to see how players react to this too who on one hand know what they're talking about on the other hand just totally have no idea what they're saying. But it's funny to see like Andrew Whitworth saying this is really embarrassing. That reflects on you. And then Dan Orlovsky just immediately being like, good for Tua. This is good that he's doing this. It was funny to have like, simultaneous, like players. Like, I have a lot of respect as being like, like totally opposite opinions.
Danny Hy
Attitude reflects leadership. That's the, remember the Titan attitude.
Danny Kelly
Well, and that's the question is, did Tua do that thoughtlessly? Thoughtlessly being he just shared something that shouldn't be shared, or did he do it thoughtfully, saying that he has tried so hard that this is actually needs to be aired out publicly to embarrass people, or did he just kind of share something that really is actually a reflection of his inability to correct. To herd the cat? That's. I don't know. That's. I think what will come out in the wash over the next days and weeks is whether it was calculated or actually just really poor. But at the end of the day, they're one in five and they suck. And this is the end of the regime. This. The McDaniel, he's not going to survive this season. Like, there's just too many things going wrong.
Danny Hy
He's going to be a sick offensive coordinator somewhere.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Like Kellen Moore. I think that with the leadership thing with Tua, it just lands weird coming off a game where you threw three picks. Right.
Danny Kelly
100%.
Craig Worldbeck
Like, just pick.
Danny Hy
Choose your timing.
Craig Worldbeck
Just like, you know what I mean? You don't have to bring this up at a game where you arguably were the reason they lost.
Danny Kelly
Well, maybe he didn't show up to the players only meeting and he's calling himself out.
Craig Worldbeck
Right. You know, I just think it's like.
Danny Hy
We didn't remember that was the joke.
Danny Kelly
Everywhere that they're having a video. Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
With Tua. To me it's just like, look, I don't know what he's like in the locker room. I don't know what. What the level of respect his teammates have for him is, but the optics here are really bad because he did not play well and he hasn't really played well. And they're a total disaster across the board.
Danny Kelly
D. No one wants to hear from the guy who threw three interceptions that people aren't coming to play around the meetings.
Craig Worldbeck
Right. Like, that is, you know, read the room.
Danny Kelly
And again, things get clip. Like people don't forget. He probably acknowledged that in like an answer like 10 seconds earlier. That did not get clipped for social media. So any other Craig, who else is so back?
Danny Hy
We're so back. Derek Henry. This proves that. I don't know anything about the NFL. And nobody knows anything about the NFL. The Ravens lost today 17 to 3 to the Rams. It was kind of. It never felt like they had a shot. And yet Derek Henry, who couldn't sniff 40 yards with Cooper Rush has 90 at halftime, looked great. There were holes everywhere. He ran for 122 yards today. And I don't understand how going into a game where Cooper Rush is the quarterback. Cooper Rush had 70 yards passing today and a pick got benched. How does Derrick Henry rush for basically 130 yards in a game against Cooper Rush, a game with where Cooper Rush is the quarterback? I don't understand. But he did and he looked good. So.
Danny Kelly
But honestly. But then the flip side was that sequence at the goal line where they ran him at the one didn't get it. Then like, screw it. Mark Andrews. Can Tush push?
Craig Worldbeck
No, no, no. They.
Danny Hy
They ran. I had this in worst play of the day. They ran a Mark Andrews tush push twice. First and second down didn't work. Then they give it to Henry. Didn't work. Stuffed at the 1.
Danny Kelly
4Th and 1.
Danny Hy
4Th and 1.
Danny Kelly
I also has to be said the Mark Angels Tush push. It was ruled forward progress, but the ball popped out.
Danny Hy
Yep.
Danny Kelly
And I love Mark Andrews and I gotta tell you, running out of. I. I just.
Danny Hy
Why? Why are we tush pushing Mark Andrews?
Craig Worldbeck
Why?
Danny Hy
Why? Well, I think pushing Derrick Henry.
Craig Worldbeck
Excellent query, Craig. Excellent query.
Danny Kelly
What the f. Well, they have Derek Henry pushing Mark Andrews and I'm like, shouldn't you have Mark Andrews pushing Derek Henry? Wouldn't that make more sense?
Danny Hy
I just.
Craig Worldbeck
I just.
Danny Hy
I can't believe that I was. I was in. In awe.
Danny Kelly
I mean, I think the answer is Mark Angels probably took a snap at some point, but you're right. Like that's dumb.
Danny Hy
Whatever. Or just hand it off to Derrick Henry. Although he. He can't get 1 yard. He can only get 10.
Craig Worldbeck
He.
Danny Hy
He get 10 or negative.
Danny Kelly
It's weird. Honestly, Derrick Henry, when they really do need the one yard, he seems like one of the worst running backs in the NFL. Now having said honestly though, I do think. I think was Brady announced in that game? Kind of nailed it. They pulled a guard at the goal line and. And the Rams just kind of destroyed him. But overall, I just. I don't know.
Danny Hy
Brady hates pulling guards running in the red zone.
Danny Kelly
He does. Yeah.
Danny Hy
And then a couple times I. Yeah. So anyway, The Ravens are 1 in 5 since the current playoff format started in 2020. One team has actually done it. Who. Who went 1 in 5 and then made the playoffs. Do you know who?
Danny Kelly
Since 2020. Since 20. Was it Washington in 2020? It was that team.
Danny Hy
Was that Heineken?
Danny Kelly
Honestly, Taylor Heinecke should have beaten the Bucks. It was crazy how close. And then the Bucks, like, was that the year the Bucks won the Super Bowl? I think it was. Taylor Heinecke genuinely was really close to beating that team, which is so funny. This episode is brought to you by Jack Daniels. Jack Daniels and music are made for each other. They share a rhythm in the craft.
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Craig Worldbeck
Oh, God.
Danny Kelly
I didn't like that either. No one likes it.
Danny Hy
We, we. We commissioned our listeners to create kind of throwback early aughts radio DJ style intro far shock jock theme songs for Farter Shart. So we're going to roll through a different one every week. So, Carlos, you can. You can hit it.
Danny Kelly
It's time for fart or shar. I tried to fart know.
Craig Worldbeck
I just short it. I love the obligatory air horn.
Danny Hy
Yeah, like the clip was over and then he just added in nine air horns. That's exactly how you're supposed to do it. So great job.
Danny Kelly
All right, Danny, Kelly.
Craig Worldbeck
Sorry, I'm like, crying. All right, Craig, I'm actually pitching this one to you, pal.
Danny Kelly
Oh, no, no, no. We'll take your point, pitch it back to you. That's the.
Craig Worldbeck
Okay, well, wow. Craig, how are you feeling about Trayvon Henderson?
Danny Hy
Pose it. What's the question?
Craig Worldbeck
Trayon Henderson, farter shart.
Danny Kelly
You can tell he's never done this before.
Danny Hy
I know you, you got to put some mustard on it. You got to build up to it. Fart or sure, it's a, it's a hot, nasty shart, in my opinion. Trayvon Henderson, I don't think Varal thinks he's that good. I think the pass protection, they don't trust him. As we saw him today blocking air as Drake May was scrambling.
Craig Worldbeck
That was good.
Danny Hy
I, I, I'm not sure. I, maybe I'll eat my words here because it's week six and he's a rookie and this is what always happens, but this one feels a little different to me and I, I think it is closer to a shart than, than a fart.
Craig Worldbeck
I think, like, typically I would be very hesitant to agree with you on this because, you know, like you said, this is a rookie thing, that sometimes it takes a while to get worked up into the offense and get your confidence and know what you're doing and, and blah, blah, blah. But the, the fact when you say I don't think Vrabel likes him, that worry like that, like in my head I'm like, I don't know if that like, does worry me because Rabel is, you know, the guy. I mean, in the past I was joking about like, how much he hated Trail and Burks. Like, wrong kid died thing when they traded A.J. brown so they could get a Trailin Burks. And he's just like, never let Traylon Burks live that down.
Danny Hy
Like, I just think the, the resume's tough. The, like, the starting running back on this team is, I would say a league average running back in Ramondre Stevenson. He leads the NFL and fumbles lost.
Craig Worldbeck
He had 13 carries for 18 yards today.
Danny Hy
The other running back tore his ACL and still they won't commit to him. Randre Stevenson is going to be the goal line guy I get all year, it looks like. And to me, even if Trayvon starts playing a little bit more, I don't know if it's going to be enough. Maybe he'll end up being a guy who'll get you 10 points a week in your flex. Maybe, but, but I'm, I'm willing. I mean, it's been, he's been farting for six straight weeks. @ some point you're going to leave a stain.
Danny Kelly
Skid marks on the season. Craig?
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Any, any far shirts you want to inquire about?
Danny Hy
Yeah, Daniel Travis Etienne, the running back in Jackson. Bill, A guy whose career was going, you know, okay. I would say nobody really thought he in the Raundre Stevenson camp. Like kind of a league average guy.
Craig Worldbeck
Right.
Danny Hy
Week one through four this year. First month of the season came out so hot. Third in the NFL and rushing. Liam Cohen fixed the running game in Jacksonville like he fixed it in Tampa Bay with Bucky Irving. Travis etien league winner, one of the best picks you can make in fantasy. The last two weeks he's 24th in rushing yards points in the league he's gone from 15 fantasy points a game down to seven. Do I panic? Was he always mediocre and this was just a hot month or did they just play the Chiefs and the Seahawks in the last two weeks and that's why. Is this a fart, a two week fart or a two week chart?
Craig Worldbeck
I think it's a bit of a shart.
Danny Kelly
Ooh.
Danny Hy
Because I didn't expect that out of you.
Craig Worldbeck
I think you never do if, if you're looking at the rest of their schedule. They have the Rams next week, they have the Raiders the week after that, which, sorry, they have a buy and then they have the Raiders which could be good. But then the Texans, Chargers, Cardinals, Titans, Colts, Jets, Broncos, Colts, they have some really tough defenses they're facing this year.
Danny Hy
And do you feel like, like it was a bit of a mirage what ETN was doing?
Craig Worldbeck
I think a little bit, yeah. But I, I again, like it was a little, it was definitely surprising to see what he was doing based on what they have on the off offensive line. You know, I started to buy a little bit like what you were saying about Liam Cohen, how he helps change the run game and the different things that he does schematically help open up run run lanes. But at the end of the day I don't think they have a very good offensive line. I mean they got pressured. The Seahawks pressured them 33 times today, I think or something like that. It was like ridiculous. They sacked him seven times. This is not a great offensive line and so that worries me more than anything. And Bashel Tutin hasn't done much either.
Danny Hy
So high Fitz, you, you're you lean fart.
Danny Kelly
I disagree. I think it's a fart from, from Travis ctn. I think maybe the first month was hot, but overall I.
Craig Worldbeck
Do you think he's going to get back to what he was doing? Early on.
Danny Kelly
Not necessarily. But I just think the last two defenses they played were really good like this. The Chiefs on Monday Night Football, when the Jaguars played them, like today, the Chiefs Jameer Gibbs had 65 rushing yards versus Detroit. Like, I just think that the Chiefs have a better run defense than you think. And the Seahawks run defense is awesome.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Like, the Seahawks are uniquely well suited to take advantage of Jacksonville's weaknesses along the D line. I'm not saying. Travis.
Craig Worldbeck
Seahawks dominated.
Danny Kelly
I kind of just wouldn't say you can't overcome that. But other teams are incapable of that the way Seattle is. So I don't. I. I think a rare.
Danny Hy
A rare disagreement. Fart and shot.
Danny Kelly
That is always that. Yeah. Sometimes you got to check.
Danny Hy
You know, I'm not sure what we do. We might have to call. Call a third person.
Danny Kelly
What's the definition? I have one Florida shirt I want to just throw out there. The. Well, we'll start with the Eagles.
Danny Hy
Sure.
Danny Kelly
Which, I mean, admittedly, the Giants are.
Craig Worldbeck
Better than the Eagles.
Danny Kelly
Really? Just the city of Philadelphia. Really Just Philadelphia. The whole. I mean, the Eagles, the Phillies. I don't know how much baseball you guys actually watch beyond your teams.
Danny Hy
Okay.
Craig Worldbeck
I don't know.
Danny Kelly
We don't.
Danny Hy
I don't live under a rock. I know what happened in the Phillies.
Danny Kelly
Okay, great. I'm thrilled because I hate Philadelphia. The most pathetic and embarrassing loss to a series since. I don't know, some fifth hitting a World Series, I can't even imagine. But the Phillies. I actually feel bad for the pitcher. He threw home. He, like, totally panicked with the base.
Danny Hy
I feel bad for him, too.
Danny Kelly
I feel horrible for that guy. But even Phillies fans know. They're like, it was his fault. It also wasn't. The Phillies had so many issues. And I know Penn State is not actually near Philadelphia. It's like three hours away. However, there is overlap. Let's be honest. I'm lumping him in Penn State firing James Franklin. If you happen to be a Eagles, Phillies, Penn State fan, if that happens to be you, which I know it's not in Philly, but there's a lot of people like that. That was the craziest. You had two of the.
Craig Worldbeck
You had the.
Danny Kelly
One of the worst sports weeks I can remember where the.
Danny Hy
And are. Are you asking if it's a shart or a fart? I'm asking Entire collapse of the city of Philadelphia sports teams.
Danny Kelly
I'm asking if this is like a historic shark. I'm asking if this is like the shard of all sharks.
Craig Worldbeck
It's so over for it is.
Danny Kelly
This is the smelliest work. Like every. You'll have to move and like start a new name. You have to start a new life after this shirt. It's like Al Roh the White House. It's like it's going to dominate everything else you've done in your whole life.
Danny Hy
I mean, with the Eagles, I think it is a Shark. I'm. I'm paying really 100%. They're not good. They're. They're not one of the best 15 teams in the league. It looks like they can't. They can't block, they can't run the ball. Jalen Hurts is. Is mediocre. When the offensive line isn't working and they can't run the ball and the defense is not as good. They. They're a mediocre team right now. This is sharp.
Danny Kelly
It's. It I. It is funny when the offensive line for the Eagles is not humming how you kind of let remember that Jalen Hurts was like the 50th pick in the draft and you're like, how is that possible?
Craig Worldbeck
And you're like turning on the tush push too.
Danny Hy
Well, okay.
Danny Kelly
When.
Danny Hy
When they ran it four times in a row and they false started every fucking time.
Danny Kelly
Rev. Once again, I would like to revisit when they ban the tush push next offseason, which I think is they should not do. Ironically, they're kind of butthurt about the tush push being banned. But when the. The everyone else is. But when the tush push gets banned, how good is Jalen Hurts? I'm just saying it's weird that when the offensive line is the best and all Eagles fans are going crazy. However, when the office I don't know.
Danny Hy
What they are, they might agree with you.
Danny Kelly
I think some deep down they're basically. It's like a Philly. People within Philly can say it. They don't want outsiders. But because he wins the games with the best offensive line.
Craig Worldbeck
People spent six months in our freaking yeah.
Danny Hy
Because they just won the Super Bowl.
Danny Kelly
They won the Super Bowl.
Craig Worldbeck
I'm arguing about how great Jalen Hurst.
Danny Kelly
It's just watch Sometimes you just watch and you remember that Jalen Hurts can't.
Craig Worldbeck
Still get mentions from this Instagram.
Danny Kelly
Throw in the run which every now and then when they really need to you're like, wow. Like you don't think about it all the time because they're rarely losing and it's like never super important because they're always winning, winning. And then when they're winning and he's running and you're like, this guy can't even throw in the run accurately. You have A.J. brown, you have Devonte Smith. It's like it is at some point. The tuxedos are fucked up. It's just weird.
Danny Hy
Both. Both things can be true. And that when things are humming. Jalen Hurts can look like one of the best quarterbacks in the league in the right situation and also in the wrong situation. He is not one of those quarterbacks that can win despite his team.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, it's weird because they're still guy. Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
But they've got Sirian.
Danny Hy
Yeah. They have Petullo.
Danny Kelly
I think it's also Sirianni, I realized.
Craig Worldbeck
Is one of the winningest coaches of all time.
Danny Kelly
Sirianni is the Jalen Hurts of quarterbacks, though, because like, it's with Hertz, it's like a.
Craig Worldbeck
You're not picking up on my sarcasm, I think.
Danny Hy
I know, I know. Obviously I know Craig's like, come on.
Danny Kelly
But aren't Sirianni and Hertz the same where it's like the record is crazy. The record of winning and success is unbelievable. And you're like, what does this guy do? They can't pass and they can't run. Sirianni doesn't call the plays. Hertz can't really get. A.J.
Craig Worldbeck
Brownie is there for the vibes, but they don't fucking terrible.
Danny Kelly
And so it's like, so what? Exactly. What is Jalen Hurts accomplishing for this team? Say I can't stress enough.
Craig Worldbeck
Sirianni is there to meet with A.J. brown once a week to figure out how to make him happy.
Danny Kelly
It's so.
Craig Worldbeck
And he fails every week and he's not very good at it.
Danny Hy
It's just constantly fails.
Craig Worldbeck
He's in a book club with A.J. brown.
Danny Hy
A.J. brown's right. That's. That's the funny thing about all this is like him and DeVontae Smith are pissed every week. And they're right.
Danny Kelly
And they're. They're right. But the funny thing. And the funny thing is. And I. I know we're harping on this, but I just sake one at 30 something yards in the first. This first two plays he broke up big runs whole game. He had one other big run in the. That honestly hurt them. It was the end of the first half and it wasted too much time and he got 20 yards take. That run was bad. He shouldn't have done it it otherwise the rest of the game he had nine rushing yards.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
What the is wrong with this Team.
Danny Hy
Saquon doesn't have 100 yards rushing in any game this year.
Danny Kelly
I'm just. It's just weird.
Craig Worldbeck
The best part about this whole discussion is they play the Giants again in.
Danny Kelly
Two weeks, they're gonna kick the out of us in that one, too. It's gonna be awesome.
Craig Worldbeck
I'm circling.
Danny Hy
The Eagles should just trade for Mike.
Craig Worldbeck
26Th on my calendar. I cannot wait for this.
Danny Hy
The Eagles should trade for Mike McDaniel right now.
Danny Kelly
Okay. Okay. Any intrusive thoughts from the games today?
Danny Hy
Yes. I still think the Ravens are going to win the AFC north, and I think you should bet it.
Danny Kelly
Wow.
Craig Worldbeck
Wait, is this just like a reverse jinx type of deal?
Danny Hy
No, no, no, it's. No, it's me. Me being pragmatic and knowing exactly who the Steelers are. Aaron Rodgers is 41. They've had a super easy schedule, and coming up, they have the Bengals on Thursday. Even if they win that game, then they go Packers, Colts, Chargers. They play the Bills. They play the Ravens again. They play the lions. They have two more Ravens. This team will end up as 10 and 7 or 9 and 8. And if you look at the Raven schedule, they're on by now. And they come back and it's Bears, Dolphins, Vikings, Browns, Jets, Bengals. They're going to probably win all six of those games if Lamar is healthy, and then their records will be pretty similar. And then who do you want to bet down the stretch? I think it's a. It's a very. It's. It's honestly, like, decently likely that the Ravens win afc.
Danny Kelly
What are you saying, Craig? You say the Craig Steelers are going to start like 10 and three and then drop like five in a row?
Danny Hy
Yeah, something like that.
Danny Kelly
I would never.
Danny Hy
8 and 2 last year.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hy
That's my intrusive thought.
Danny Kelly
TKA.
Craig Worldbeck
I had an intrusive thought.
Danny Kelly
Please.
Craig Worldbeck
Watching the Cardinals play the Colts today. The Cardinals. I had this thought. I don't know if I really believe it, but I had it.
Danny Kelly
It.
Craig Worldbeck
The Cardinals would just be better if Jacoby Brissette was their starter. So Brissette went 27 to 44. 320 yards, two touchdowns, a pick. Kyler. I. I didn't realize this. Kyler hasn't passed for more than 220 yards this year in a game, and he has three games with 200 yards or less.
Danny Kelly
It's been years since Kyler.
Danny Hy
I'll do you one better.
Craig Worldbeck
Okay.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hy
Jacoby Brissette, 320 yards and two touchdowns today. The last time Kyler Murray did that was.
Craig Worldbeck
Was 20, 22, 34 games ago. Damn.
Danny Hy
The cameras were nine area.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, yeah, they were good. Craig was like, what is wrong with the Colts?
Danny Kelly
It's a reminder that short quarterbacks struggle to play on time. And.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, and this is like a question. This is more like not who's more talented or whatever, because that's a little more vague. But what. Who runs the offense better? I think you could say Brissette might. Might pretty clearly do it better. I don't know. Obviously, I think if they kept Brissette as a starter, probably things would go downhill pretty quickly and then you'd end up looking bad. But as you see with a lot of backups. But I don't know. That was what. I had that thought today. He had. He was nine air yards per attempt. He's pushing the ball down the field. He's throwing over the middle. I don't know.
Danny Hy
They moved the ball at will today and Marvin Harrison Jr. Was out with a concussion for half the game and they were matriculating down the field on every drive.
Danny Kelly
Kyler Murray remains the most talented quarterback I've ever seen that I just don't even think he. I, I don't understand how he contributes to wins. I don't know.
Craig Worldbeck
It's like it. Yeah. You can't run a regular offense with him, which is, I think, a big issue. Obviously.
Danny Kelly
Any other intrusive thoughts?
Danny Hy
Yeah, I don't think Xavier Worthy's that fast.
Craig Worldbeck
Okay.
Danny Hy
For a guy who has the fastest 40 time ever, I don't think he's that fast. Like, I saw a guy catch him today running around the corner and I was like, Tyree kill ran a 4:2:9 and he ran a. Xavier Worthy ran a 4:2:1. Tyreek Hill is 15 times faster than Xavier Worthy.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, Xavier Worthy is fast, not explosive.
Danny Kelly
I think that's the intrusive thought of the year so far.
Danny Hy
I just don't think he's that fast.
Danny Kelly
He's not that fast.
Danny Hy
It doesn't look that fast. I know he's. Maybe he's got an ankle injury or something, but he's a shoulder injury. Oh, didn't he also hurt his ankle last year?
Danny Kelly
But it's funnier if he's a shoulder injury.
Danny Hy
Yeah, he needs a shoulder. You gotta move your arms. Yeah, just watch him. I'm like, this guy doesn't look like the fastest player in the league to me.
Danny Kelly
Play of the day. We went through this. Baker's 14 yard run, third and 14 is awesome.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, by the way, I want to add Something to that. Baker this year has rushed for nine first downs. On third down, which is first in the NFL.
Danny Hy
Tying.
Craig Worldbeck
Jalen hurts. Wow.
Danny Hy
And Jalen hurts is her fake, right?
Craig Worldbeck
Do you really call a sneak tush push a run? It's.
Danny Hy
No, it's a push. It should be a different stat. He's not running.
Craig Worldbeck
He's falling forward.
Danny Hy
All right, well, stop sitting on the Eagles.
Craig Worldbeck
He's, like, doing, like, slip and slide.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Any other plays of the day? Here, Here. I think we hit them all. Baker.
Craig Worldbeck
Chase's touchdown was sick. Yeah.
Danny Kelly
I want worst play of the day. I think George pickin second hurdle has to be there, but we have to. I think the worst play of the day has to. That the worst play of the day was actually the worst warmup of the day. Something happened today that I. I don't know. I. I'm not aware of having ever happened before. Charus Ward, the quarterback for the Colts, collided with the tight end during pregame warmups and got concussed and missed the game today for the Colts. And somehow, against all odds, this was not the worst injury the Colts suffered in pregame warmups because Anthony Richardson broke his orbital bone, which is your face. And I quote, sorry. The Colts announced that, quote, richardson was doing warmups with elastic bands when a mishap resulted in him being hit in the eye, end quote. And he broke his orbital bone.
Craig Worldbeck
Let's not focus too much on what actually happened to Anthony Richardson and just remember that two players got hurt warming up. I can't believe that. I've never seen that.
Danny Kelly
Did he?
Danny Hy
I feel like. I feel like a. Like a physical therapist recommends that you move to bands when you don't want to get hurt. You know, I. Bands are the one thing you do when you're like, this is safe.
Danny Kelly
Here's the thing. You know, I was thinking. I thought about this a lot. Lot. Because my first thought was, this is a lie. Someone punched him in the face, and this is a cover.
Craig Worldbeck
Like, he got in a fight.
Danny Kelly
And then I thought. And I was like, you know, you.
Danny Hy
Could come up with something way better if they.
Danny Kelly
If they were lying, they would have. They're like, hey, you want to know? You want to get punched? Or do you want to tell the world you broke your face doing band work? You'd be like, tell them I got punched in the face. Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, I ran into a door.
Danny Kelly
I had two different leagues, people with Anthony Richardson and Dynasty put them up in the trade block when this story, bro.
Craig Worldbeck
And for that reason, I'm out.
Danny Hy
How do you do that like I did? I. You know, when like you. You're stretching like a rubber band too far and it snaps back and stings. You could.
Danny Kelly
That face.
Danny Hy
Maybe it broke like the handle hit him in the. I have no idea. How do you do that?
Danny Kelly
It's like Kyler Murray with the ball.
Craig Worldbeck
The band has to hit you so hard to break your orbital bone. I don't know. That's crazy.
Danny Kelly
When Shane Sten read this, the Colts coach, the press conference, the reporters were so shocked that they asked him all the follow ups. And I actually have never. I like, I actually think the reporters could tell that they felt bad for Shade St. After they got over their shock. And they kept asking him things and he kind of. I could tell Shade Siken was also just like, dude, I don't know, man. Like, I have no idea. I have no idea. At the time, anyway, this.
Craig Worldbeck
I just thought of Dennis Allen's hatred for Kendra Miller just came to mind.
Danny Kelly
Like, hurt. He's like this guy. Any of the worst plays of the day? I guess that technically that was a. That was a warmup. Wasn't even a play.
Danny Hy
Cam Ward had a horrible, horrible fumble.
Danny Kelly
He.
Danny Hy
It was one of those where like nobody was touching him.
Craig Worldbeck
He just lost the ball.
Danny Kelly
What is with the rookie quarterback doing that this year? He's done it twice. Dart did it, guys just trying to make a move and just dropping the football ball.
Danny Hy
Yeah, it's just like sheer panic. Craig was.
Craig Worldbeck
Craig was texting throughout the whole game. The Titans game. How about how much they were making him mad? The Titans are so bad.
Danny Hy
They sucked. The Titans suck.
Craig Worldbeck
They're horrific.
Danny Hy
It's like, you know watching college basketball where sometimes you'll go 10 minutes without a bucket. Like that's what it feels like watching the Titans, dude. It's like a first down is an achievement.
Craig Worldbeck
There's a famous. I don't even know what this is from the context you. Maybe you've seen this Craig, but there is like a really long clip where it was like three full minutes of a professional NBA team just throwing up the worst bricks you've ever seen. And it was like, not cut. If anyone remembers exactly what. What I'm talking about, send it to me because I don't remember the details, but it was like. It's just like hard to watch. That's the Titans offense.
Danny Kelly
I. I gotta tell you though, I, I think the jets were worse today. I think the Jets. The Jets Broncos game. Yeah, yeah, I, I know it's like early out there on the West Coast.
Craig Worldbeck
I think I did not watch this game.
Danny Kelly
Had they didn't turn the ball over. Steven Ruiz here at the Ringer. Had. They were the worst EPA per play for a team that didn't turn the ball over in 15 years. It was one of the worst. I. I don't know. You guys know the facts of this game because it was early. I. You wouldn't believe it if I told you to. You like you really I'm not so that you would not so this. Well, the score of this game was like 13 to 11. What if I told you they almost.
Craig Worldbeck
Won the jets, by the way, but.
Danny Kelly
The I can't be clear stress enough. The offense had nothing to do with it. The jets scored a field goal on not one, but two different three and outs. They. Oh, they got a fumble on the first play. The offense gained no yards and they kicked a field goal to go three. The jets had a 70 yard kick return, got two yards and then kicked a field goal that got him to 6. 6. Then they got a safety to get to 8. The offense had one scoring drive in this game. Aaron Glenn had the worst clock management of the entire season, I think where he like, basically couldn't decide whether to go for like a field goal at the end of the half or give up. So they gave up. They literally decided they'd rather run out the clock with 20 seconds left than trust Justin Fields to get like 15 more yards. Like he needed 15 more yards to get in field goal range. They had a timeout. Aaron Glenn's like, no, we're gonna go to halftime. So if you take those yards out and you take out the yards from one other drive. The jets had the other drive, like the other 10 drives. I shit you not. The jets average 4ft per play. Like, the jets in this game had 82 the whole game, not taking anything out. The jets had 82 yards on offense in this game.
Craig Worldbeck
They had negative 10 net yards passing.
Danny Kelly
They had. They had more sacks than first downs.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Anyway, I actually think Justin Fields is the one abomination. So those are my thoughts.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Kurt Warner at the end of that half literally said, I'm speechless, and then went to Twitter and posted a tweet saying, can anyone explain that to me? They came back at a halftime and Rich Eisen is announcing the game with him. Says, kurt, you're not allowed to be speechless. You're the announcer. You have to talk about this. Kurt Warner's like, I don't want to. It.
Danny Hy
I don't want to.
Danny Kelly
It was unbelievable.
Craig Worldbeck
I've never respected Kurt Warner more than.
Danny Kelly
Never seen anything like any.
Craig Worldbeck
I don't want to. I don't want to.
Danny Kelly
It was more the chats than anyone should have heard.
Danny Hy
But speaking of announcers that I don't want to hear, Tom Brady today, are you guys aware of his segment at the end of games called the Tom Brady LFG Player of the Game?
Danny Kelly
I saw this happening on mute and I was debating if I should.
Craig Worldbeck
I'm not aware of this.
Danny Hy
I envy you having watching that on mute. But LFG stands for let's go. It's the Tom Brady let's go Player of the Game. And I have. I want. It's like a one minute interview with a player. And he interviewed Nate Landman, the linebacker for the Rams.
Danny Kelly
Land man. Comb. Land man baby.
Danny Hy
Yeah, well, that was. They. They joke about that.
Craig Worldbeck
Landman, 17 tackles.
Danny Kelly
Most of the Rams had a long time, like 20 years.
Danny Hy
I have. Carlos is going to play a clip of. Of Brady asking this guy a question and in what appears to be the first time Tom Brady has ever interacted with a human being. So, Carlos, you can play it. Yeah, you guys sure did. You set the tone so physically well, all day. And you came from Zimbabwe. That's a long ways away. Your dad played professional rugby. Does that influence your tackling style at all? What's a. What's a scrum for us? All of us. All of us Americans who aren't used to that.
Craig Worldbeck
Thanks, Tom.
Danny Kelly
What's a scrum for. For us? All Americans not used to that. Is that. Was that his question?
Danny Hy
Yeah. What's a for us Americans? What's scrum? Zimbabwe. What's that?
Danny Kelly
What's that like, Remember when you were the Beatles?
Danny Hy
And then I also have the, the actual. The little like sound bumper. Whenever they get into the let's go thing, I have Carlos queuing this. So this is like the intro to the segment. Carlos, can you play that?
Danny Kelly
Let's go.
Danny Hy
Why have a segment if you can't say the name? Like, having the beep is so weird. Like I, I like. Brady's the only one to me who'd be like, oh, it'd be cool if it's called let's go. Like swearing. Swearing's cool, right? And then they obviously have to beep it because it's on television, you know, so it's just him. It's just him with like muffled audio. And it goes, let's beep go. Like, that's terrible.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, the audio is weirdly bad quality. Also, the commercial they have of the Guy looking at his Cheerios. Being like, you'd be overwhelmed by Tom Brady's brain. And then he's on the porch being like, if the safety rotates down, you throw the seam. I'm like, can't you talk him like that during the game?
Danny Hy
I don't know. Maybe that question didn't translate as well over audio, but when you watched it, it's so stiff and uncomfortable. And Brady's eyes are, like, super squinty. He doesn't open them. He's like a vampire. It's like whatever alien serum he's injected into his eyelids, they don't allow him to open.
Craig Worldbeck
It's true.
Danny Hy
He's so stiff and awkward.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, my God.
Danny Hy
And he's like, we. We call you Landman over at Fox. Nate. Nate's like, thank you.
Danny Kelly
Do you got a Landman or Landman? And he's like, I like both.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh.
Danny Hy
Anyway, I just. I love that they're still, like, forcing, like, these, like, segments, like, Tom Brady play. It's like the Gruden Grinder. It's like.
Craig Worldbeck
Can'T believe it.
Danny Kelly
Other stuff that happened. I want to just note Stadium pulse. I want to just note that Evan McFerson hit a 67 yard field goal today, which literally is the NFL record. And Matt LeFleur iced him and it didn't count. But I want to note that literally a 67 yard field goal was made.
Danny Hy
I think that should count for the record.
Danny Kelly
And Cam Little made a 70 yarder in the preseason. Preseason doesn't count. But, like, that should count. Count.
Danny Hy
I agree.
Danny Kelly
Like, so we. But I don't know, it's just kind of funny that he made his 67 yard field goal. Just doesn't count. Just funny. Chris Boswell went to make a field goal today and then just the field just gave way. Like, he just created a divot.
Danny Hy
Yeah. Which Hines Field or what? Acres. Your field was a mess today.
Craig Worldbeck
You meant like straight out of like the Batman.
Danny Hy
Dark Knight Rises?
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Danny Hy
That was Heinz Ward running.
Craig Worldbeck
I know, but it was like, it's supposed to look like Steelers, wasn't it?
Danny Hy
Yeah, yeah.
Danny Kelly
The bunch of Steelers were in that. Were in that. Those scenes. The Arthur Smith, Sean. Hockey.
Danny Hy
They shot Gotham in Pittsburgh because of the bridges.
Danny Kelly
Could stand it for a minute. Most bridges of any city in the world. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
Craig Worldbeck
Oh, I didn't get out.
Danny Kelly
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
I did not know that. Why are they called Portland Bridge City then? That's a little misleading.
Danny Kelly
They call Portland Bridge City City.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, maybe they don't. I think they do.
Danny Hy
I didn't know that.
Danny Kelly
I, I certainly didn't know that.
Craig Worldbeck
There, there are a lot of bridges.
Danny Hy
I'm going to text my brother. He lives in Portland.
Craig Worldbeck
There's a lot of bridges in Portland also. Hold on.
Danny Hy
I'm texting my brother.
Craig Worldbeck
It's definitely called Bridge City. All right, we'll see.
Danny Kelly
Okay, we'll see. Well, they didn't say they have the most bridges in the world City. They just have bridges.
Craig Worldbeck
Well, that's true. That's true. Are we gonna wait for.
Danny Kelly
Are we actually waiting for.
Danny Hy
Yeah, let's wait.
Danny Kelly
Let's just wait for Scott to respond.
Craig Worldbeck
Hold. Oh, yeah, if it's kill some time. Hurry.
Danny Kelly
Arthur Smith, Sean. Hockey awards.
Danny Hy
Oh, wait, he responded.
Danny Kelly
Really? Wow. That was.
Danny Hy
He said, I said, do they call Portland Bridge City? He said, not really. No. He's lived there for, I don't know, 10 years.
Craig Worldbeck
All right, fair enough. Ask him what they call it.
Danny Hy
What they call what Portland? They probably call Portland. What do you mean?
Craig Worldbeck
What's the nickname? Ask him what the nickname is.
Danny Hy
Dude, is every city have a nickname?
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Hy
What's LA's nickname?
Danny Kelly
LA.
Craig Worldbeck
City of Angels.
Danny Kelly
No, no one says that the nickname is la.
Danny Hy
Oh, if that's, if that's a nickname, then I guess. But that's not really a nickname.
Danny Kelly
I, I lived in LA for years and no, literally not one person who lived in LA referred to it as the City of Angels.
Danny Hy
Who wasn't that?
Danny Kelly
Yeah, you booted outside of Al Mich.
Danny Hy
What you say is New York's nickname? The Big Apple. Nobody says that.
Danny Kelly
You say the city. No one refers to New York. It's just the city. I'm going to the city.
Danny Hy
Yeah, but you say that about any city.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, but New York, it's different.
Craig Worldbeck
I call it the Big.
Danny Kelly
There's like a two hour radius around New York that the city is New York City.
Danny Hy
See, this is. That's your east coast coming out. Because people refer to San Francisco as the city. I'm sure like the, the warriors jerseys literally say the city.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that's fine. And the town, which is the town. Town.
Craig Worldbeck
The town.
Danny Kelly
You can't be the city in the town. Pick one.
Danny Hy
Town is also like a nickname for Hollywood, right?
Danny Kelly
Okay, but. But you also have jerseys, don't you, for the warriors that said the town?
Danny Hy
I think so. Yeah, but the city ones are like the city by the bay, the city. People refer to San Francisco as the city. I don't think that counts as a nickname either.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah. Kai points out the town is Oakland.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
Oh, okay. The city stole it from the town. Got it. Got it.
Craig Worldbeck
It.
Danny Hy
What's. Isn't Memphis Bluff City?
Danny Kelly
I don't think. I think what we're learning is this. No, nicknames.
Danny Hy
Don't. It's like.
Danny Kelly
It's.
Danny Hy
It's like tractor. Cedo. Like, who's actually calling me by these nicknames?
Danny Kelly
Derek Henry's like, what you call me.
Danny Hy
I don't think LA has a nickname. I don't think LA counts.
Danny Kelly
It's like Tet. It's like T for Ted McMillan, where people who know him clearly don't say that.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Do you remember how we were talking about how no one calls Peyton Manning the sheriff? Someone. Someone, like, tweeted at me that said a lot of people used to call Peyton Manning the sheriff, so just wanted to point that out.
Danny Kelly
Today in the Patriots locker room, Will Campbell, the left tackle, was.
Craig Worldbeck
Damn it.
Danny Kelly
Literally, Will Campbell was like, oh, Drake May was like, yeah, Big Country. And the reporters were like, oh, they call you Big Country? Is that your nickname? He's like, no, just Drake calls me that. That.
Danny Hy
That's DK with City of Angels in la.
Craig Worldbeck
City of Angels and the Big Apple.
Danny Hy
The Big.
Craig Worldbeck
I can't wait. I. I loved my time going to.
Danny Kelly
The Big Apple to visit. It's not a ton of apples. Arthur Smith. Sean Hockey Award. Coach Rift that pitched you off third try here. We talked about the Marc Anous Tush pushes. Talked about the. The weird calls in the Patriots game. Wanted to just acknowledge that Georgia Auburn insane fumble gate. That happened. Good example of instant replay. I watched it and I was like, that's the worst call I've ever seen. Watched it a hundred more times and was like, actually, they got it right. So the call was right. But also.
Danny Hy
But spiritually, is the call right if you have to watch it a hundred times to figure it out?
Danny Kelly
That's my rule about instant replay.
Craig Worldbeck
Deal.
Danny Kelly
But I did have to watch it a hundred times because they synced it and I was confused about how they synced it it. Okay. But, yeah, you're right. Anyway, and then another weird thing here. Sean. Hockey actually, today, did call it Bluff City.
Craig Worldbeck
What?
Danny Kelly
No, that was joke.
Craig Worldbeck
Ever?
Danny Kelly
No.
Danny Hy
Okay.
Danny Kelly
I don't know. We probably should end the show here.
Danny Hy
Yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, yeah. Wait, we need to burn somebody.
Danny Hy
We do need to burn.
Danny Kelly
Oh, yeah, let's burn some. Yeah.
Danny Hy
Do you guys prepare to burn?
Danny Kelly
Jaylen Waddle, Week one, Mark Andrews. Week two, Isaiah Pacheco. Week three, Calv Ridley. Week four, Week five, Trayvon Henderson. I do have one person.
Danny Hy
Okay.
Danny Kelly
Jerry Judy. What is he for? Gna Play.
Craig Worldbeck
That's a great one. He had 13 targets today and did Jack.
Danny Kelly
Like, literally, he's useless. I, Jerry Judy. I, I, he's like 45 points in the entire season. He's barely a Rico dowdle on the year.
Craig Worldbeck
I thought about saying him before High Fitz, but then I realized no one's actually playing Jerry Judy.
Danny Kelly
You basically, there are a lot of players playing really well that you drafted instead of Jerry Judy.
Craig Worldbeck
I mean, I, I'm all for this. I think that's 13 targets for 43 years.
Danny Kelly
You're right. People aren't probably playing him, but he's one of the worst picks you could have made.
Danny Hy
Yeah, the only, the only case is DK's right. Maybe people aren't playing him. So it's like not even a discussion. My candidate was Tony Pollard, who I think is delivering the most flaccid year in fantasy of all time. He is giving you the most milquetoast nine points a game and you just, you don't know what to do with him. And today Taj Spears basically played as much as him. And I kind of just think it's like he's cooked.
Danny Kelly
And the I would give it a Pollard because that's fine. Because people probably. It's way harder to bench Tony Pollard than Judy. Like, it's so much easier to replace a receiver like Judy than it is to replace Tony Pollard because he's like.
Danny Hy
Grinding his way to 10 points. And watching it is, is just like pulling teeth because the Titans can barely get across midfield.
Craig Worldbeck
Titans. It's just over.
Danny Kelly
It's the receiver.
Danny Hy
Terrible.
Danny Kelly
It feels like a miracle when the Titans get to the red zone and then they don't score. Cause Cam Ward just drops the football.
Danny Hy
So it's like I have, I have a running back on the worst team in the league, which is just one of the most awful fantasy experiences you can have.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah.
Danny Kelly
All right. Yeah. Tony Pollard, you convinced me.
Danny Hy
Sorry, Tony, but I like you as a player, but I can't take it anymore.
Craig Worldbeck
The Titans are the hardest watch of any team. Right.
Danny Hy
We have now burned two Titans. So the first double double of the CEO.
Danny Kelly
All right. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Craig. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Ronick. Thank you, Austin. Thank you to all the fans of Seattle Mariners game. And yeah, thank you to everyone for listening.
Danny Hy
Can people say M's? Go M's. Is that a thing? Okay.
Craig Worldbeck
Go M's. I didn't know that. Gobs. Some people say goms. I don't know really pronounce it. Goms. But it's like a joke on Twitter. It's just a giant ass. Goms.
Danny Hy
Cool.
Craig Worldbeck
There's a. One of my buddies, Joe, he likes to say Go Ners, which I. I don't know if I quite can get there with that one.
Danny Hy
Yeah, that one feels like it could.
Danny Kelly
Be bad for a few reasons, one of which is like Goners.
Danny Hy
Which for.
Danny Kelly
A team that exits the playoffs, famously is pretty terrible.
Craig Worldbeck
It's got a st. Oh, but there's an apostrophe, so it's all right.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Goners.
Danny Hy
It's really funny.
Craig Worldbeck
Goners. I say Goms.
Danny Kelly
Yeah, that's probably better. Thank you, Lord, Lord.
Craig Worldbeck
Thank you, Cisco. I was trying to decide. Someone told me to do Megan Trainer because it's all about that base with Big Dumper, but I wouldn't Cisco instead because he's got dumps like a truck, truck, truck.
Danny Kelly
I actually don't understand. I don't follow anything. What I'm talking about.
Craig Worldbeck
You don't know the Thong song, apparently. Oh, which is one of the biggest songs of all time.
Danny Hy
I didn't know that.
Danny Kelly
Come on.
Danny Hy
I didn't know.
Craig Worldbeck
This is borderline Cisco S. Hansen is qo. So in my. In my world, this is borderline. You like heit not knowing what Hansen was.
Danny Kelly
I. I mean, I know the song, obviously, but I also. When you said Cisco, I actually just spelled it like the company. I kind of was like.
Danny Hy
Me too. Me too.
Craig Worldbeck
Logistical solutions. Do you guys know the song Song or not?
Danny Kelly
I know the song.
Craig Worldbeck
Yeah, I've heard it.
Danny Kelly
I couldn't have spilled Cisco for my life. Sing it. I actually. No, I. Forget about it. Tell me how it goes.
Craig Worldbeck
She got dumps like a truck, truck, truck. The Isaac.
Danny Kelly
What?
Craig Worldbeck
I'm not going to do the whole thing.
Danny Kelly
Craig's.
Craig Worldbeck
Craig's Disgusting Dumps.
Danny Kelly
Since that song came out, Trump means not ass. Although dump is Kyle R's bringing it back. But yeah.
Craig Worldbeck
Big dumper, big dump when he hit.
Danny Kelly
His home run today Dumps like a truck.
Craig Worldbeck
Big dumper. He does have a huge ass. I'll give him that. It's his powerhouse.
Danny Kelly
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Episode: Chiefs Are Back, Bulldog Baker, Skattebo Is Nuts, and DK Loves Big Dumper
Date: October 13, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Theme:
This episode dives into Week 6 of the 2025 NFL season, recapping the biggest games, standout fantasy football performances, wild moments, quirky player personalities, and the general chaos of football fandom. The hosts break down major team narratives (are the Chiefs actually "back"?), debate fantasy winner/losers, rave about the weirdest and most lovable players in the NFL, and pepper in memorable moments from both football and their own lives (including an epic Mariners playoff baseball game).
Chiefs’ Offense Resurgence:
The hosts agree that Kansas City’s win over Detroit signaled the return of the “old” Chiefs dominance. Patrick Mahomes is “toying with defenses” again, even with a weird cast of supporting players (Kareem Hunt, banged-up Xavier Worthy, aging Kelce).
Mahomes’ Familiarity with His Crew:
There’s now chemistry between Mahomes and a rotating cast of characters, and the offense is humming much more so than last year.
Trenches Talk:
Much discussion about backup offensive tackles getting air time (hi, Jalen Moore!) sparked by Collinsworth’s lengthy game analysis.
Chiefs’ Defense:
They dominated, and the Lions looked one-dimensional when forced into pure passing situations.
Baker Mania:
The Bucs’ upset of the Niners (30–19) was all about Baker. The guys celebrate his manic, authentic energy — “the human embodiment of smelling salts.”
On-Field Escapades:
Baker’s scrambles, trash talk, and weekly heroics are podcast catnip. The play of the day: a 3rd-and-14 scramble and conversion.
Injuries and Depth:
The Bucs are winning with a patchwork roster (“fifth, sixth, and seventh string receivers!”), which makes Baker's heroism more epic.
Breakout Stretch:
Maye is putting up elite numbers and passing every eye test: 261 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INTs, leading the Pats to 4 wins in 5.
Ceiling Debates:
The hosts flirt with hyperbole, comparing Maye’s trajectory to Josh Allen and positing his rise to AFC elite, maybe even Hall of Fame level (“intrusive thought”).
Chemistry Surprises:
Early doubts about Rodgers and Metcalf are squashed — the two are making genuinely impressive plays in a revitalized Steelers offense.
Rodgers at Age 41:
The hosts highlight Rodgers’s physical ability and leadership, demonstrating he’s rebounded well post-Achilles — he didn’t look “41” today.
Unexpected Euphoria:
As lifelong Giants fans, the hosts gush about how fun the new Dart-Skattebo duo is:
Weird Personalities:
Skattebo’s backstory (“ran into telephone poles as a kid wearing pads”), his head shape (“the thickest neck I’ve seen”), and his general chaos make him especially beloved.
Breakout Campaign:
JSN is racking up numbers and playing almost entirely outside — not just a slot guy.
Comparison:
JSN is placed in the tier with Chase, Jefferson, and Nacua — the guys agree he moves differently.
Kendrick Bourne, at age 30, is suddenly a deep threat and fantasy asset for the Niners.
George Pickens is fantasy’s breakout since CeeDee Lamb left the Steelers.
Rico Dowdle:
Claimed the Carolina RB job, posting back-to-back historic weeks, surpassing legends like Jonathan Stewart and McCaffrey.
Craig recounts flying to Seattle to attend the legendary 15-inning Mariners win over the Tigers. His exuberance for postseason baseball (“hits differently”) spurs a broader conversation on sports fandom, nostalgia, and why baseball is finally fun to watch again post-pitch clock changes.
The “Big Dumper” conversation: Cal Raleigh’s legendary playoff performance and nickname are celebrated, much to Craig’s delight.
Dolphins:
“It’s just so over for the Dolphins. The vibes are out of control bad.” — Craig (60:07)
Eagles:
“They’re not good; they’re not one of the best 15 teams in the league.” — Heifetz (75:07)
Tony Pollard and Titans Offense:
Tony Pollard is nominated for the “burn book” for being fantasy’s most disappointing RB — the Titans’ entire offense described as “the hardest watch of any team.”
Trayvon Henderson:
“Hot, nasty shart.” — Heifetz (68:39)
Rookie struggles, doesn’t appear trusted by the Titans, and isn’t contributing in pass-pro.
Travis Etienne:
Disagreement:
Drake Maye to Be a Hall of Famer:
Heifetz’s “intrusive thought” after watching another stellar Maye outing.
Jacoby Brissett vs. Kyler Murray:
“The Cardinals would just be better if Jacoby Brissett was their starter.” — Horlbeck (80:23)
Xavier Worthy “Isn’t That Fast”:
Despite record speed, “he doesn’t look like the fastest player in the league to me.” — Heifetz (82:09)
On Skattebo:
“He’s literally concussion-proof. Because he is a concussion.” — Horlbeck (27:53)
On Baker Mayfield:
“He is the quarterback embodiment, the human embodiment of smelling salts.” — Horlbeck (09:27)
On Fandom:
“I can’t remember two players on a team having more personality that like, shapes the team...I just can’t get over the two of them and how, how immediately like, famous and iconic they are as a duo.” — Heifetz on Dart & Skattebo (31:07)
On Tom Brady's TV Segment:
“What’s a scrum for us, all of us Americans who aren’t used to that?” — Tom Brady (91:25)
Fast-paced, bantering, irreverent, and often self-deprecating, with a signature blend of nerdy football analysis, pop culture references, and deeply felt sports-fan joy and pain.
For practical fantasy football advice, entertainment, and a sense of what’s driving football Twitter, this episode dials up the energy, the jokes, and the love for the weirdos who make NFL Sunday so fun.