Week 7 Recap: Dart or Shart, Mahomes Cooking With Rice, Wagon Colts, and Craig Made Us Bread

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show — Week 7 Recap: Dart or Shart, Mahomes Cooking With Rice, Wagon Colts, and Craig Made Us Bread

Date: October 20, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly (DK), Craig Horlbeck

Overview

This week’s Ringer Fantasy Football Show episode is a lively, in-person recap of Week 7, mixing analysis, humor, rants, and even some fresh-baked bread. The trio tackles improbable comebacks (looking at you, Giants-Broncos), ascendant stars and crumbling teams, fantasy heartbreakers, and much more. Running themes: the agony and ecstasy of fandom, the wild unpredictability of the NFL, and the eternal quest for the perfect fantasy lineup.

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Major Discussion Points and Insights

1. Week 7 Stunners: Giants-Broncos Historic Collapse (03:12–16:44)

• The Implosion: The Giants surrendered a 26–8 lead with under 6 minutes left, as the Broncos scored 33 fourth-quarter points to win by one. A loss so wild, Heifetz says, “People will remember this for years.” (07:06)
  • “NFL teams had won 1,602 straight games when leading by 18+ points in the final six minutes.” — DK (08:02)
  • Bonix: First NFL player to record 2+ pass TDs and 2+ rush TDs in a quarter. (07:42)
• Who’s to Blame?
  • Debate over kicker failure: Two missed extra points loomed large, but blame shared with Giants coaching (mismanaged backup kickers) and rookie QB Jackson Dart’s late INT (08:56).
  • “Also, the defense gave up 33 points in the fourth quarter and we’re going to blame the kicker?” — Craig (08:50)
• Long-term View:
  • Despite the disaster, Heifetz finds hope in the Giants’ core of young talent and sees adversity as a test: “It’s important to see how people respond to adversity…” (14:16)
• Historical Context:
  • Consensus: this ranks among the worst midseason collapses, possibly only behind Falcons–Patriots 28–3.

2. Week 7 Winners: Colts, Chiefs, Eagles, and (Literally) Old Guys

A. Colts and Jonathan Taylor: NFL’s Best Offense? (16:45–24:17)

• “America’s team, Indiana Jones Colts, are an absolute wagon once again.” — DK (16:45)
• Jonathan Taylor: Third-best RB fantasy season since 2010 (McCaffrey ’19, Gurley ’18, now Taylor). Three 3-TD games in 7 weeks (17:50).
• Daniel Jones (“retread” QBs in general) thriving under Shane Steichen’s system; Colts now average the most points/drive of any NFL team this century (18:03).
• 96% of Colts' scrimmage yards come from homegrown/drafted players. (21:31)

B. Chiefs Find Their Groove with Mahomes and Rashee Rice (24:18–30:16)

• Chiefs destroy Raiders, 31–0. Raiders run just 30 plays—the fewest since 2002 (24:53).
• Mahomes: Three straight 80-yard TD drives to start. Rashee Rice: 10 targets, treated like “McCaffrey” by the offense (26:15).
• A memorable Mahomes fake on 4th-and-1: “This f—ing never f—ing works.” (26:45)
• Chiefs offense now loaded: Rice, Hollywood Brown, Kelsey, Xavier Worthy … “All of their receivers were playing as underqualified 1s and 2s—now they’re all overqualified.” — DK (27:15)
• DK: “I think they should be the favorite to win the Super Bowl right now.” (30:00)

C. Eagles and Jalen Hurts Bounce Back (31:19–33:50)

• Eagles torch Vikings pass D (top-2 by yardage) for over 300 yds. Hurts: “First 300-yard passing game since Christmas 2023” (31:36).
• Smith and Brown both big days; team finally looks like expected juggernaut, though hosts retain lingering doubts about consistency.

D. Ode to Old QBs: Flacco, Rodgers, Stafford Cooking (37:07–49:33)

• Flacco (Bengals) and Rodgers (Steelers) combine for thrilling Thursday night: both over 40, dissect defenses.
  • “He was traded within three days, he’s playing in a game...I passed it to Jamar Chase.” — Craig, on Flacco’s legendary improvisation (41:38)
  • Jamar Chase: 23 targets, 16 catches, 161 yards. Steelers unable to adjust.
• Rodgers: 69.8-yard(!) Hail Mary attempt. “He still makes throws that few QBs in the league right now can make.” — DK (44:51)
• Stafford (Rams): Five TDs in London, playing some of the best ball of his career.
  • “Seven games in, Stafford has 17 TD passes this year, he had 20 last year total.” — Craig (49:21)

3. Recurring Segments & Fun Features

A. Who’s Cooking? (37:07+)

• Old QBs, Shohei Ohtani’s historic baseball game (pitching and slugging), and even Craig’s sourdough bread (!) get “who’s cooking” honors.

B. It’s So Over / We’re So Back (58:00–70:00)

• It’s So Over:
  • Travion Henderson: DK’s fantasy heartbreak—only 0.5 points, 64/66 among RBs (61:02).
  • Justin Fields: Benched by Jets; passing game and fantasy prospects are dust (66:48).
  • Dolphins/Tua/McDaniel: Carlos (producer and lifelong Dolphins fan) despairs over QB, GM, and head coach. “Like, I kind of maybe wonder what would Mike McDaniel do with a quarterback who wasn’t as limited?” — Carlos (74:45)
• We’re So Back:
  • Bengals with Flacco, Chiefs, Colts offense

C. Dart or Shart? (78:28–84:17)

• Jaguars “vibes are horrific” but debate whether it’s a shart (real problem) or fart (maybe fixable) after two straight losses and sloppy play.
  • “They lost two straight...they lead the league in penalties. Lawrence took seven sacks...this is a shart.” — DK (79:00)

D. Intrusive Thoughts (84:16+)

• Cam Ward’s hand size is holding back his QB prospects.
• Travis Hunter should be the Jags' #1 receiver over Brian Thomas.
• Mahomes’ “touch pass” TDs shouldn’t count as passing touchdowns—“It’s a loophole!” — DK (88:06)
• Carlos hates YouTube TV's “Moment of Zen” multiview screensavers: “It’s just really annoying. Like, get rid of it, please.” (89:53)
• Playground violence/prank stories prompt nostalgic riffing (94:11+)

E. Play of the Day / Worst Play of the Day (92:31+)

• Best: Mahomes’ 4th-and-1 fake, perhaps the play of the YEAR.
• Worst: Steelers tackle Broderick Jones tackling Aaron Rodgers after a TD (97:37), Bears’ center refusing to snap on 4th down, and, humorously, the one team missing two extra points (the Giants).

F. Burn Book (103:40+)

• Week 7 addition: Justin Fields (fantasy burn).
• Ongoing: Tracking past weeks’ “Burn Book” victims (Waddle, Andrews, Pacheco, Pollard, etc.)—and how badly those picks have aged.

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Memorable Quotes & Timestamps

• “NFL teams had won 1,602 straight games when leading by 18+ points in the final six minutes.” — DK (08:02)
• “This is one of the worst…People will remember this for years.” — Danny Heifetz, on Giants collapse (07:06)
• "Three hat tricks in seven games. Pretty much every other game [Jonathan Taylor] has three touchdowns. That's ridiculous." — DK (17:50)
• “They try to take a step back, and then Mahomes made three fucking Super Bowls in a row and he won two of them. That was the step back.” — Heifetz, on Chiefs' post-Tyreek Hill rebuild (29:10)
• “I've never seen a number one receiver dice up a defense...than the Steelers were against fucking Jamar Chase.” — DK (39:00)
• “Old guys, dude. Stafford and the Rams this morning…the Rams are unbelievable. And Stafford is just having quietly one of the better years of his whole career.” — Danny Heifetz (48:29)
• “This is my third attempt at sourdough bread…and I gotta be honest, I thought I did a really good job.” — Craig (106:14)

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Notable and Fun Moments

• Bread Break! (106:00+) — The crew samples Craig’s homemade sourdough—reviews are glowing ("Paul Hollywood handshake" is given).
• Fantasy Suffering: DK’s Travyon Henderson saga (“I get such a bad Trayvon Henderson hangover every Monday…”) and the debate on when to finally cut him loose (59:43–64:55).
• Old Man Slams: The delight in Rodgers’ Hail Mary bombs, Flacco’s YOLO slants, and Stafford’s nonchalance.
• Cultural references: Barry Bonds and Shohei Ohtani, tabletop pranks, Guinness factories, and Project X soundtracks.
• Carlos’ Dolphins rant: A rare producer rant in podcasting—both raw and cathartic.

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Useful Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:12–16:44] — Giants-Broncos collapse, historical stats, blame game
• [16:45–24:17] — Colts & Taylor, homegrown roster, coaching, and Jones's redemption
• [24:18–30:16] — Chiefs offensive explosion, Mahomes, Rashee Rice
• [31:19–33:50] — Eagles passing game revival
• [37:07–49:33] — Old QBs: Flacco, Rodgers, Stafford; Jamar Chase; “Who’s Cooking?”
• [58:00–70:00] — It’s So Over segment (Henderson, Fields, Dolphins)
• [78:28–84:17] — Dart or Shart: Jaguars, Trevor Lawrence debate
• [84:16+] — Intrusive Thoughts, including weird NFL observations
• [92:31+] — Play of the Day (Mahomes' fake) / Worst Play (Steelers tackle)
• [103:40+] — Burn Book: Justin Fields added
• [106:00+] — Bread break: live bread review

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Conclusion

This week’s Ringer Fantasy Football Show painted Week 7 as a chaos-fueled, emotionally draining, historic week—from record comebacks to fantasy busts to the rise of veteran quarterbacks. The wide-ranging conversation effortlessly mixes sharp football insights with personal rants, physical comedy, and even fresh baking. For listeners who want stats, laughs, and honest, relatable football chat, this episode delivers.

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Hosts’ Send-off
Thank-yous, more bread compliments, and a musical close with shoutouts to the Yeah Yeah Yeahs.
“If you just compare…Who are the teams that could beat [the Chiefs]? …The Chiefs are making the Super Bowl. Put it that way.” — Danny Heifetz (30:33)

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Danny Heifetz]

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[Danny Heifetz]

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[Danny Heifetz]

Welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Heifetz and I am joined in person in Los Angeles Baby Kelly and Craig Horlbeck. We are going to go over all the games from Sunday of week two seven, starting with Niners, Falcons. Honestly, we were actually more locked in on Mariners. The Mariners, Blue Jays. I know. Well, game six. So you're on game seven. Dk. How you are back into baseball. Fairweather fan. Yeah, baseball.

[Craig Horlbeck]

How you feeling back on the bandwagon? Very nervous for game seven. But it's also going to be awesome, you know, opportunity to play in game seven to go to World Series.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Hell yeah. Take that every day.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's you're being a motivational speaker to yourself. You actually.

[Carlos]

100.

[Craig Horlbeck]

This was like in our group chat. Like this is our cope. Like if you told me before the year totally that we could do a game seven to get to the world Series. And I'm gonna say I'm sad about what happened today. No, that's the right. I mean I'm very sad about what.

[DK]

Happened, you know, the second the game was like turn it off.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. But anyways, exciting. Thanks. Stuff.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. I think we're gonna have a lot to talk about with the Mariners later this week. So. Good or bad? So football is fine.

[DK]

Ugly game.

[Danny Heifetz]

I. It was ugly. Yeah. I mean McCaffrey. Mike Tirico just dubbed it national running back day at the end. Whatever. But McCaffrey was awesome. Bijan's good. I have a. I just. I did have one intrusive thought about. He's good, he's good. Football.

[DK]

He's good. You're right.

[Danny Heifetz]

I had an intrusive thought about Bijan during this game where it reminds me a lot of the. The Ohtani. That person. The tweet that went viral of just when it was like the person was like, I feel like every LA Angels game is. Mike Trout hit four hits to raise his average to 5.

[DK]

28.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then Shohei Ohtani had did something that hasn't done since tungsten armadill in 1921 as the Angels lost to the Tigers 5 to 3. Every Falcons game is kind of like Bijan Robinson had 180 yards from scrimmage and he has the best juke that's ever been seen as drake London had 13 catches and the Falcons lost 20 to 10.

[DK]

And then Bijan wasn't in the game on the most crucial fourth and one they had.

[Danny Heifetz]

Bean looked awesome today. He had dead 10 points.

[DK]

Y.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like I just. There's just a weird dichotomy between how talented they are and how many yards and first downs and points they were able to accrue.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's all.

[DK]

I feel like this was a Robert Salah master class tonight. They. They. I mean, they blitzed the out of Penck. He was uncomfortable the whole night. Penck doesn't have great pocket awareness, I gotta say.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude. The amount of hits he took to his surgically repaired knees in the final like one minute of garbage time was like, give me.

[DK]

It feels like if he's not in rhythm, it gets sloppy quick.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's what I was thinking during the game too.

[DK]

In.

[Craig Horlbeck]

In a way he kind of reminds you of Tua where if the first couple seconds of the play. No, besides the left handed thing. If the first couple seconds of the play don't go right and he doesn't get hit, like hit his back foot and get the ball out, that's where things really fall apart and break down, you know. So he, he definitely showed some limitations there. But yeah, the 49ers defense was a good, really good. McCaffrey went bonkers. He was everywhere in this game. I think he had over 200 scrimmage yards.

[DK]

He had 31 touches for over 200 yards, two touchdowns. And it's funny, McCaffrey definitely looks like he's in a different phase of his career, but they're giving him the ball like he's in the prime of his career. Like he does not look as fast as Twitch. He's still fantastic. He's still probably like one of the seven best running backs in the league, but they're still just feeding the absolute out of him.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, he was the number one running back in the day, he passed Jonathan Taylor as the number one fantasy running back today.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So that's himself.

[Danny Heifetz]

But let's. The game wasn't that good. I think we can just go to winners or losers, so I'm surprised you're.

[DK]

So eager to get to this. So do you want to do winner or loser?

[Danny Heifetz]

Let's just get it over with.

[DK]

It was just.

[Danny Heifetz]

Let's just get it over.

[DK]

But what's crazy about that game we're talking about, the Giants Broncos game, is that it was so in the bag that we literally already wrote down winner, New York.

[Danny Heifetz]

I wrote down winner, New York, Giants. I wrote it down.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

The win probability chart looks like a staircase that just goes to a hallway. It's just like. Like, like levels, levels, levels. And it just flattens. Like, it just. Like a hallway, and then it just craters. Like, it was like black Monday in the stock market. Like, it just.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like there was a point in the third quarter. I believe it was 19 to nothing. The Giants had a 98% win probability. 99. 99% win probability. And then the Broncos scored 33 points in the fourth quarter.

[DK]

Yeah, it just goes to show 33 points.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know, when you say it out loud, Craig has a whole bunch of.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Good stats on this.

[Danny Heifetz]

I've read that, but I haven't heard someone say that out loud.

[DK]

Bonex had four touchdowns and two extra points in the fourth quarter. Yeah, there was a point in the game where it was like a game break. And it was. When Theo Johnson caught that ridiculous. It was tipped off wand, and he ran and scored. And the guy was like. The announcer was like, everything's coming up New York Football, Giants. And I was like, wow, it really is. What a great day for the Giants.

[Danny Heifetz]

Since that moment, I. So I just. I'll just go through it because it was crazy. I actually sat and like a masochist, I rewatched, like, the entire fourth quarter because I just was like, what happened? And I just. You know, my main takeaway was I kept waiting for the Broncos to score. And we keep saying, oh, the fourth quarter. But, like, it was 26. Like, it was 26 to 8.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

With, like, I wrote down, I was like, oh, it's like 26 to 8 with 10 minutes left. And I'm like, seven minutes left. It's still 26 to 8. Like, five and a half minutes left, still 26 to 8. And I'm like, oh, my God, it was worse than I realized. Like, it was worth, like, the. They was up 20. Yeah. It was. I, I hate. I fuck football. This is the worst. I, I don't. I wish I could be a better host right now. This was one of the more hurtful losses. It's weird because the Giants aren't that good and like, like obviously aren't going to like win the super bowl or anything, but this, dude, they had this.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Game in the bag, dude.

[DK]

I was like, this team's gonna win the NFC East.

[Danny Heifetz]

This is one of the worst collab. I, I think I took me like an hour after the game until I realized like, this is one of the worst. People will remember this for years.

[DK]

It's a, I mean, it's a. I mean I can get into some stats, you know, to show why this was so historic. 33 points. The the Broncos scored in the fourth quarter which is the second most points scored in the fourth quarter ever. The. The most was 34. Only one point more by the Lions against the Bears in 07. No team ever was, was ever shut out and then that scored that many points in the fourth quarter. Bonix is the first player in NFL history to record two plus passing touchdowns and two plus rushing touchdowns in one quarter.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Plus he had two say that.

[DK]

Nick is the first player in NFL history to have two plus passing touchdowns and two plus rushing touchdowns in one quarter. He basically had the Clay Thompson 37 in a quarter but for a quarterback.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then, my God, he did.

[DK]

NFL teams had won 1,602 straight games when leading by 18 plus points in the final six minutes.

[Danny Heifetz]

How many?

[DK]

1,602.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

One thou. So. 1600.

[DK]

Yeah. Straight when leading by 18 plus in the final six minutes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my.

[Craig Horlbeck]

This was like an. Luckily it wasn't in a Super Bowl.

[DK]

Three scores in the final six minutes.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't, I don't know if people expect me to be screaming right. Also, I mean we, we, we're not saying the obvious part. They, the Giants lost this game by one point in a game. They missed two extra points.

[DK]

It kind of is two extra points. It kind of does just come down to that.

[Danny Heifetz]

And so it does come down to that. But it is, that is more complicated than it seems. The other thing I'll say rewatching it, the kicker is going to take all the flack and he should take most of the flack. Jackson Dart threw an interception on 3rd and 5 with like 3 minutes left or 5 minutes left in the game. And there is no chance the Broncos win this game if that doesn't happen.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Also the defense gave out 33 points in the fourth quarter and we're gonna blame the kicker.

[DK]

I'm not gonna blaming the kicker.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm not gonna go on the defense.

[DK]

I am gonna blame the kicker. The missed two extra points. What is your job?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, well I am gonna blame her.

[DK]

It's partly missed two extra points.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What about the defense giving up a historic amount of points?

[Danny Heifetz]

Shane Bowen, their blame does. It's more complicated than it seems.

[DK]

The kicker here, part of me is kind of like, you know what, he missed two extra points.

[Danny Heifetz]

As simple as that.

[DK]

And they lost by one.

[Danny Heifetz]

I will say this though, it's actually not entirely the kicker's fault because the Giants have a. Weirdly, Giants fans know this. The Giants have really mismanaged the backup kicker spot for two years. Graham Gano is the kicker. He.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I've never heard of this guy by the way.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, so this new. Yeah, he won't be on the team much longer.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. But Graham not going to be working here anymore.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, does everyone love that one? Graham Gano. Sorry, I'm just really mean.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm just.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm just in a bad mood. Graham Gano gets hurt a lot and the Giants have like I'm not exaggerating, lost three games in the last two years because they mismanaged Graham Gano's injuries. Do you remember last year with Washington when he got hurt in the middle of the week and then they didn't have a backup kicker and he pulled his groin during the warmups and they didn't have a backup kicker and so they lost to Washington 18 to or 2118 because they didn't have a fucking kicker. And it's like your kicker was hurt and you didn't have a backup and then they. So like this week. So he's been on this team for like three weeks I think. I didn't know this but Bobby Skinner at talking Giants nailed this. This guy was the backup kicker at Rutgers. He was on the roster because they have an international roster exemption for him.

[DK]

He's from Northern Ireland.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dable hates using roster spots on kickers.

[DK]

Dude, I watched Today Today the Packers cutting corners on.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. No, I'm serious. They lost a game last year to Washington because of this.

[DK]

Like the packers he's like taking fucking coupons for his kickers.

[Danny Heifetz]

I know this sounds dumb to harp on but the packers today I watched their backup kicker hit a 61 yard field goal that looked like it could have for 66. Other teams around the league have fit. The Bills signed a backup kicker three days earlier on week One and he made like fucking Matt Prater. They called him out of retirement. Like teams like how many teams have found a backup kicker this year? Like six. They've been fine. The Giants are the only one who relied on a guy who couldn't get the starting job at Rutgers, which is the worst team in the history of college football. He couldn't start there. So why is he on the team making this thing? So yes, it is his fault. It's also Joe, Shane and Brian Dable's fault that this guy's the fucking kicker. And the Jackson dart threw an interception on third and five that so instead of punting it and putting the ball in their own 20, pinning them inside the 20, they got the ball at the 20 so that the defense they needed, they spiked the ball two seconds at the end there was like no, sorry, I'm ranting. There's no chance that the Giants, even if they just made them drive 70 yards instead of 18, they would have ran out of time. And Shane Bowen had three man didn't rush four in the final drive, which was also knowing. Fuck.

[DK]

Couple rebuttals.

[Craig Horlbeck]

One.

[Danny Heifetz]

Fuck, this sucks.

[DK]

Who was the starting kicker at Rutgers? Where's he?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know. What's that guy up to?

[DK]

Is he not in the league?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know.

[DK]

How is. How is the backup in the league and not the starter?

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's got a sick insurance.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Giants. But I know this is a weird thing. Harp on. The Giants have mismanaged their end of roster. They don't sign got. They don't fill their roster. I don't know if it's a money thing, but the Giants like the Saints game. The Giants lost the Saint game for a lot of reasons. I know this is a weird thing, but this is like their job for Dable and Shane. The Giants had four receivers active for the Saints game. So in Darius Slate, Slayton got hurt. They had three receivers. So you're running a two minute drill. No one can come out of the game. So when you send everyone on verts on vertical routes, first down penalty. First down again. Second. They just ran 300 yards. They're tired, there's no subs. They lost that game because Dable and Shane like the back end of like 46 to 53 man roster has cost. This is a really boring way to have this conversation. You guys are like fuck, this is the most boring. But I'm just saying that. But also he should make the fucking kick. It's an extra point.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Relax.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sorry.

[DK]

The dart. Interception.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

I'm kind of like, all right, he threw one pick against Denver and he's a rookie. It's like his fourth game.

[Danny Heifetz]

But it's, it's the situation.

[DK]

I understand that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Third and five with five minutes left. The only thing you can't do is turn the ball over.

[DK]

I know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Punt the ball and they win.

[DK]

You gotta bake a little bit that in. You gotta have to give him a longer leash. He's like his fourth game.

[Danny Heifetz]

He played great. And other than the last drive, ironically.

[DK]

Ironically, the worst three interceptions that didn't.

[Danny Heifetz]

Get caught in the last drive Dart had in the whole game was the one where he got the touchdown to win. Because Dart in that one, he should have had three interceptions in that drive. And the Broncos kept colliding with each other at full speed to catch him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That was a ridiculous drive.

[Danny Heifetz]

I just, it was, I think Dart was playing chess.

[DK]

He was injuring Denver secondary.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was insane. Like, Dart dude. I, I, the back and forth was insane. I kept. The other thing was I kept wondering, I can't believe the Broncos. There's like 5 minutes and 20 seconds left. And I'm like, you're telling me they get like four more possessions in this game. I just couldn't. It really was a dude, as my grandmother would say, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. Yeah. This was the all time version of that. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it took me a long time to realize that this is basically like Falcons 28 to 3. Like just in a random regular season.

[DK]

Game, are you able to be at a point where you can look at this game and think, I'm able to see the positives in this, like what the defensive line can do, what Dart is capable of and like where the future of this team is going. Or are you like, no, fuck that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Terrible loss.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's annoying. But realistically.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Vibes killing loss, maybe it's.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know if it was such a good win. It's. Look, maybe it's. I don't know. I don't know. The annoying football cliche truth is it's interesting to see how people respond to things and like how Dart and scatter boo and everything. It's cool to like, you know, do your little poses when you're winning, but it's important to see how people respond to adversity and like, that's interesting. The one thing I'll say about just where the Giants are going and then we can get off this or you guys can make fun of me. The Giants clearly do have some good players. Like, like dart Scatterboo, Andrew Thomas at left tackle, Malik Neighbors. And then you have Dexter Lawrence at D tackle is as good as anyone in the league.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cave on Thibodeau who's probably gonna leave it to the season, but it's fine. Brian Burns and Abdul Carter had a concussion today. And then if you look at even, you know, Drew Phillips, who had a tough day, but I, I love Drew Phillips. Tyler Newman, Cordell flat. All of those guys are 27 or under. So even Dexter, Andrew Thomas. Yeah, they're all 27 to 22. So I actually, I. The Giants, I think the Giants have a weirdly good core. They have the cornerbacks like everybody else.

[Craig Horlbeck]

In the NFL by cornerbacks should be said. Craig said Craig was mentioning this during the game. He's just like the guys that Jackson.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dart is throwing unbelievables like double coverage to Bo Collins.

[DK]

That's why I'm like.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Daniel Bellinger was like making big play.

[Danny Heifetz]

So anyway, the Giant. This was the stupidest game. I actually, it really was.

[DK]

Like Heifetz looked at me at one point and was like, this is like a really bad loss.

[Danny Heifetz]

Huh.

[DK]

And I, yeah, I was like, yeah, yeah. This is a pretty remarkable collapse. This is really like maybe top five collapses I've ever seen in a game.

[Danny Heifetz]

Maybe if I wasn't here, what would you guys say?

[DK]

What? How bad? Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Was it that bad?

[Craig Horlbeck]

We tell you the truth.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, tell me how bad it was.

[DK]

What you said. Stripped of context, it. It might be like number two.

[Danny Heifetz]

But yeah, strip context.

[DK]

If you strip context, it's. It's as number one as anyone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know. So. So.

[Danny Heifetz]

So nobody had ever been shut out in three quarters and scored 30 in the fourth. That had never happened.

[DK]

Dude. 1602 straight games. Team leading by 18 points. They were up by three scores in the final six minutes.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was an epic class, to be clear. And it the. In a sixteen game season, that would be one thousand. No hundred sixteen game seasons. That's pretty bad.

[DK]

All right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Damn.

[Craig Horlbeck]

This was a hundred year storm.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Shit storm.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my God. Yeah. So I think the Giants were a loser today.

[DK]

Yeah, that's fair to say.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's.

[DK]

Anyway, let's go to winners. I'm going to give my winner. I actually have two. I'm going to start with the Colts and Jonathan Taylor. America's team Indiana Jones Colts are an absolute wagon once again. I'm upset we didn't bet the colts in Ringer 107. Even though we did. Did we?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, we did.

[DK]

Oh hell yeah. Nice.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, yeah. We're three and one right now. Right?

[DK]

There you go. All right, cool. You wouldn't have let us. Okay, good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Also, as a Giants fan, it's. It was for the. Before the Giants blew it when it was like, again, 26, 8, and the Giants are kind of rocking Denver, and then Daniel Jones is just destroying the Chargers. I'm like, what the Is going on?

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, it's so, like, the idea that the Jones split for that brief moment in time, I was like, worked out great for everybody.

[DK]

Totally. Yeah. Dude. Jones, Jonathan Taylor. Jonathan Taylor's having right now, through seven weeks the third best fantasy running back season in 15 years. It was Christian McAffrey 2019. On the. On the Panthers girly 2018. And then Jonathan Taylor this year. This was his third game with three touchdowns this year.

[Danny Heifetz]

Three hat tricks.

[DK]

Three hat tricks in seven games. Pretty much every other game, he has three touchdowns.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's ridiculous.

[DK]

Which is ridiculous. And then there's the Colts in general. I saw this stat. I found this stat. The Colts are averaging the most points per drive of any team in the 21st century.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, well, like, pretty much.

[Danny Heifetz]

Any more. No more than the.

[DK]

More than anything three. They're basically averaging three and a half points per drive.

[Craig Horlbeck]

When you say wagon, it's like that's. That's under.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're also so balanced. I feel like some of those teams, you know, were like, crazy passing offenses. I mean, obviously they could all run, but like, 2013 Broncos was Peyton and like, oh, seven Patriots is Brady, and 2018 Chiefs was Mahomes. And it's like, is anyone. How. Also they're so balanced. The rushing. They're top. They're up there with rushing, first downs, passing, first down, success rate, whatever. Like, they just.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I was going to say they might be taking the belt for me right now for the most aesthetically pleasing offense to watch.

[DK]

They are the Spurs.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. They like the way that they utilize motion both before and after the snap. One thing they love to do is they get guys on, like, levels, concepts to either side of the ball where they've got, like, three guys running. So one guy's short, one guy's medium, one guy's like, deep, golden locks.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And then he can, like, dump it off to whatever guy. They have so much good misdirection where guys are running back behind the line of scrimmage at the snap. Yeah. Keeping the defense on their heels on all. At all times. Daniel Jones has been incredibly good at just getting the ball to his playmakers and letting them do their thing. Tyler Warren looks like an elite tight end right away in the NFL. Michael Pittman still really good. They have role players who will just do their job pretty much every time. Alec Pierce is just. Every time he goes deep.

[DK]

I know, it's crazy.

[Danny Heifetz]

First of all, it's funny you mentioned Taylor because it's funny to see all the Daniel Jones Colts stats that like he's better than like the, you know, it hasn't been done since Peyton in 04 or whatever. And it's funny because I mean Peyton Manning offense levels was like the whole fucking thing. They ran like 25 plays or whatever. And like everybody thing you remember from the cults was basically that play or that concept rather. But the cults in a way remind me of like a good soup where like, you know, a soup has to get itself together. Like if you have soup, it's actually better the next day or the day, you know, it's chili. It's gotta. It's actually. It has to gel and vibe. And this Colts team kind of reminds me of. In a weird way, you know exactly what I'm saying.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Doesn't sound super.

[Danny Heifetz]

Has to get itself together like a team soup. Yeah, no, but my point being that's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Exactly what I'm looking at.

[Danny Heifetz]

But my point being it's kind of in a weird way like soup. Yeah, it reminds me like the buck carrots. Mushy carrots. No, but the Buccaneers getting Brady where this Buccaneers team from like 16 to 2020, you were kind of like, where is this going? They had Jamis and everything. And then Brady steps in and suddenly everyone, everyone just. You were like, oh, like all of this makes sense. This offensive line's good. And like Evans and Godwin and the defense at Bowles and everyone was like really weirdly well placed and nobody knew it till Brady walked into her. And I'm not saying Daniel Jones is that, but. But something about this like seven year odyssey since Andrew Luck, where they had the seven starters last seven seasons and fight like, you know, Wentz and Rivers and Matt Ryan and all these guys and then like Daniel Jones for whatever reason, all these. Everything is gel. Everything Chris Ballard, the GM has done this whole time has just weirdly gelled.

[DK]

To follow up to that bat. Speaking of Ballard, I saw a ridiculous stat today. They were talking about this on the broadcast and I went and checked and the amount of homegrown guys that the Colts have on their, on their roster, particularly their offense, this is what they said on the broadcast. 96% of the Colts scrimmage yards heading into week seven came from homegrown players. 96% of their scrimmage yards.

[Danny Heifetz]

Michael Pittman, Alec Pierce, Warren, Jonathan Taylor.

[DK]

Yeah, I think that's been Josh Downs.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Colts fans could maybe quibble with this, I think, but I feel like it's been sort of a point of contention over the years because they're less apt. This is like something you see with the packers too. They just don't go out and spend money on big time free agents or whatever. They like to draft and develop. That was a big part of like their, their philosophy. And I, and I think like we even had a notion of this coming into the season. It's like the, the Colts have good skill players. Like, we like Josh Downs, even though he doesn't get hardly any.

[DK]

He's like a super overqualified slot guy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Totally.

[DK]

Like a very solid outside wide receiver.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Jonathan Taylor, great running back. And then we're like, oh, and then you add in Tyler Warren, like, this could be a really good skill group. There's just no good quarterback there. And then it turns out. And honestly. And if you go back to preseason time, I think there was an impression, at least from the beat writers. Every report that I saw, it was like, that was a pretty close competition between Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson. And it was actually very surprising when Daniel Jones won it. I think a lot of people were like, oh, okay, that's crazy. And he's been, I'm sure he's been so much better than even they expected. It's been, it's been really cool to see. And this is part of a broader, I think, storyline and sort of just overarching motif for the season, which is retread. Quarterbacks are not retread, I guess just.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like veteran is the word.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Veteran quarterbacks. Jones was released, right? Retread. Retread quarterbacks that have developed and found themselves into the right system and have really, really blossomed into really good quarterbacks. And so, and yeah, it's crazy.

[DK]

And you got to give it to Steichen, who should be the leading candidate for coach of the year.

[Danny Heifetz]

Absolutely. As coach of the year so far. I mean, I mean, making that call.

[Craig Horlbeck]

To start Daniel Jones in particular, the.

[DK]

Play calling is ridiculous. As good as I think Tyler Warren is, I have to say, every time that guy catches a pass, there's nobody within 10ft.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's wide open.

[DK]

I don't know how the. He's so open all the time for how big he is, but he's just constantly wide open. 20 yards down the Field.

[Danny Heifetz]

And it's not just coach of the year in the way that they give coach a year to like the team that most outperformed expectations. Like the Colts lead the league in points, 33 points per game on average.

[DK]

They lead the century. They lead the century in points per drive.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's fucking crazy. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

How did Daniel Jones all of a sudden learn how to not take a million sacks?

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, I think it's a lot like, I mean, I know we're spending a lot of time on this, but they deserve it. Like they've earned it. Like, I think Jones reminds me a lot of Darnold in that. Yeah, there was just. I mean, Darnold six years ago was seeing ghosts and like, you know what? I clearly the just guys just benefit from spending more time and like the game slows down and you know, sometimes you're Jaden Daniels and it slows down like immediately or whatever. Like sometimes it takes six years. And also Jones is healthier. Not just the knee, but the neck. I think he certainly the back injuries and everything. With Jones, he looks healthier, but clearly the game's going slower from. There's no question about that. Craig Willis's winner for you today, dude.

[DK]

The Chiefs. I'm falling back in love with the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs became the villain and I think the Chiefs are now becoming likable again. And we're now going back to the first iteration of Mahomes where everyone's like, what is this? This is so exciting. This team is so fun. The Chiefs murdered the Raiders today. 31 0.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Least competitive game we've seen this year.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was one of the least competitive games.

[DK]

It was 210 immediately. It was the first time in Mahomes career. He had three straight 80 yard touchdown drives to start the game. The Chief scored 31 points in this game. The Raiders ran 30 plays, which is the fewest amount of plays in NFL offense has run in a game since 2000. At least 2002.

[Danny Heifetz]

I also looked it up and I'm pretty sure that this is only the ninth or tenth time in NFL history, at least since 1970, that a team. This was your idea, Craig. For me to look it up. That the points the Chiefs allow scored more points than the Raiders ran plays. Yes. Which is preposterous.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They had 95 yards on 30 plays.

[DK]

It's really bad.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's great.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean you can usually get garbage time yards and make it just look a little bit more respectable. The Raiders had one thing in garbage time.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Raiders had one first down in the final three quarters.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Damn.

[DK]

Is that right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Really brutal.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, it's just. That's as dominant as it gets. And I, I, Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Punt, punt.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's not just that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

End of half, punt, downs, punt, fumble, punt.

[Danny Heifetz]

And here's the thing. It was worse than we're making it out to be. It was because the Chiefs were with them the whole time, for sure.

[DK]

The Chiefs, they were running some weird. They put Gardner Minshew in the game in the first half to run a play.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude, they put him in the. They ran the. They ran like the wing t. That shit's 120 years old. That was invented by, like, Walter camp in the 1880s.

[DK]

And that was going to be Rashid Rice's third touchdown. But there was a false start or. But it was the coolest player. They had. Mahomes go one way. Minshew snapped it, handed it off to Rashee Rice. It was in the backfield, and he, like, slipped in for a touchdown. Rice was great. Two touchdowns in the first half. 10 targets. They treat him like McCaffrey. Like, they feed him. Like, they throw him the way that the niners throw to McCaffrey.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's all like these, like, little in.

[DK]

Breaking things, touch passes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, he's. And so. And we're not even mentioning the play that I think is going to be all over social media all week, which is a thing I have kind of wanted teams to do more forever. And the Chiefs did it perfectly, which was the Mahomes fourth and one fake. Trying to get the team offsides, which I have always wanted teams to do this. And Mahomes did it perfectly where they were trying to do the. And the fourth and one. And then Mahomes just stood up, was like, this never fucking works. And then he just tries. And then they just went and they got it.

[DK]

I think I'm going to give that the Ruben Akana Partridge over acting award a little bit. I think Mahomes went. He said fucking twice. It was. It was a little bit.

[Danny Heifetz]

It worked.

[DK]

It did work. I don't know if it worked because of that or they just ran a good play, but did she. He was like, this fucking never fucking works.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Stomps his foot.

[DK]

And the defense is like, okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Darn it. Darn it. This never fucking works.

[DK]

Damn it. I'm not giving him an Oscar for that one. Yeah, I'm saying that was fine.

[Danny Heifetz]

State Farm.

[DK]

Yeah, State Farm. But, dude, in general, it feels like now the Chiefs, now that they have Rice back, it's like all of Their receivers were playing as like under qualified ones and twos and now they're all kind of overqualified.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Move guys down the line. Yeah.

[DK]

And it's like oh, Hollywood Brown, that was the number three guys. Pretty good. Oh, Kelsey doesn't have as much to do now. He's not going to get double covered as much. Now that they're like working things through.

[Danny Heifetz]

Is always wide open. Now that they actually have real receivers.

[DK]

Totally. And it's like Xavier worthy. You don't have to rely on him as much. You can treat him more as like a guy you scheme things up for.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean the Chiefs are the healthiest good team. It's not even close. Yeah, like they're, they're the mix of. They're playing well the offense, the defense and everything. And they just have their guys.

[DK]

They're just like fun like Mahomes so.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, he's playing way more disposable, decisive and confident than it feels like he played in recent years. Like because I feel like he's obviously been what made him great over the last couple seasons is what he does at the end of the game. But like to get to the end of the game it was a lot of ugly football and things like that and where he was just kind of running around and trying to make things happen and never really looked smooth or in, in rhythm or whatever. But now it's like, wow, they're in rhythm. And when he doesn't have it in rhythm, he's really decisive and he takes off and runs and he's just creating all these big plays and he just looks so confident. He looks in total control of the offense.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's the Raiders. So I don't want to overreact but having said that, the Raiders are a professional football team and they get paid to play football and this is as dumb again, the Chiefs had more points than the Raiders ran fucking place. So I like this. It's about as dominant of a game as you'll see. It's like The Lions had 50 on the Bears. It's more but like this was like non competitive. And so with that said to your point, dk about what you're saying with the Chiefs and everything, it's funny how we all got sick of Mahomes, but in reality I actually think we actually maybe Mahomes is underrated because I actually think we don't talk enough about how what fundamentally happened with the Chiefs is they wanted to extend Tyree Kill. Christian Kirk got that crazy deal from the Jaguars and Tyree Kills like I want 30 million a year. And the Chiefs are like, we're going to take this for some pick and we'll figure it out and we'll go take a step back. We're going to, like, retool and we're going to set up the next decade because we don't want to just, like, do some crazy thing and focus on now and like, screw up the cap for later. We want Mahomes to have a super window forever. So they tried to take a step back, and then Mahomes made three fucking Super Bowls in a row and he won two of them. Like, that was the step back because the offense was so bad and the shoestring and bubblegum at receiver and left tackle for three years was all to set up now, like, this is the moment where the youth and the draft picks and everyone. Like, this is what they envisioned when they traded Tyreek Hill as being the window is right now through 2030. Yeah. And so the fact that we think we're sick of them. I'm like, this team could be significantly better than the last three that made at least the last two that made the Super Bowl.

[DK]

Yeah, I think they should be the favorite to win the super bowl right now.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think.

[DK]

I don't know if they are.

[Danny Heifetz]

Absolutely.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think they might be.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, if you just compare that. Who are the teams that could beat them? Is like, the Bills are destroyed, the Ravens are destroyed. You know what I mean? The Bengals are. I know.

[DK]

It is funny that we're pro. It's like Mahomes is probably going to win the MVP and the Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's crazy. So. Yeah, it's unbelievable.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Craig, right now.

[DK]

It has to be cheap.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Chiefs are 5 to 1. Who's second?

[Danny Heifetz]

I used 9110 days ago.

[Craig Horlbeck]

7 to 1.

[Danny Heifetz]

God damn.

[DK]

That's a terrible.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, that's crazy. It is. They're doing.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And then. And then the packers.

[DK]

Terrible bet.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's. Dude, the Chiefs are Packers. It's. The Chiefs are making the Super Bowl. Put it that way.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Colts are 13 to 1.

[DK]

See, that's probably also not a good.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Who.

[Danny Heifetz]

Who. I mean, if they played next week again, you have to go the AFC Championship. Chiefs.

[DK]

Colts would be sick.

[Danny Heifetz]

Chief's Colts. Also. Speaking of worst collapses, one that never gets mentioned. The Chiefs game in the wild card. The wild card round. Chiefs, Colts, where everyone kept getting hurt. It was Annie Reid's first year without, I think with the Chiefs first or second season, and they were up like 40 points or something. And Andrew Luck came back and they won like 45, 44 and everyone kept getting hurt. That was like. But that was the one where Andrew. They fumbled in. Andrew Luck picked it up and like soup. You know what? Neverminder. It'd be cool though.

[DK]

Vaguely remember that. But I think I was.

[Danny Heifetz]

DK is like.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know.

[Carlos]

It doesn't matter.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't. I barely remember last year.

[Danny Heifetz]

DK winner, loser from today.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Jalen Hurts and the Eagles passing offense was a winner and obviously we've given them a lot of guff this year. Yeah, we've been on them quite a bit.

[DK]

That's right. I would say deservingly the crown.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, yeah, they've looked like.

[DK]

Right.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So. But this game they did not. They played.

[Danny Heifetz]

They won 2022 of the Vikings.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. And again this is a very good Vikings defense. Before this week the most yardage they'd given up through the air was 182 yards. They are averaging 157 yards for their opponents this year. So they are one of the best, probably the second best pass defense in the NFL. And Jalen Hurts went out, had his first 300 yard passing game since Christmas of 2023 and he had hold on the. The Vikings defense had only allowed three deep completions all season coming into this game. And Hertz did sick. He had six completions of 20 plus yards including a 79 yard touchdown to Devonte Smith, 37 yard touchdown to Brown. AJ Brown and a 26 yard touchdown to Brown. He basically they just aired it out. It was the most out of character out like it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Smith called the play, he said it was there the whole game and he was like please call this play. And then he was right and they got the touchdown.

[DK]

It was kind of threes and layups. It felt like they were just chucking it or handing it off or checking down and it worked. Yeah, you got to give to the Eagles. I feel like I'm going to be I think the bar. I just set the bar high for them. My expectations are so high because of how good they looked at certain points last year and year before that and stuff like that. But yeah, A.J. brown will probably have like 1300 yards and nine touchdowns this year and I'll be angry the whole season.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude, that's what's the perfect Philly team. They're also going to make the super bowl again. Eagles fans will complain about them the whole time, but also get to yell at every literally. It's designed in a lab to make Philly happy. They get to complain Internally get to scream at everyone externally for making fun of the team, being like, we're the champions. And then they get to be mad the whole time. But then they're going to win.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Persil EPA for place. 2nd best. 2nd best game right now.

[DK]

Oh, yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Where is he?

[DK]

Just over yonder.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Second best game of Hertz's career by EPA per play. And the second best game by any quarterback against Brian Flores in the last three years. So just objectively, a really, really good.

[DK]

The receivers were happy, you know, 158.

[Danny Heifetz]

Passer rating or whatever.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, perfect pass rating.

[DK]

A.J. brown was yelling, throw me the ball in the after.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, what did he say when he scored?

[DK]

I'm the.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm the bad. Who do you think you are exactly?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, man, I love receivers.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

A.J. brown. Can't live with them.

[DK]

Can't live without him.

[Carlos]

Totally.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Dude, I just remembered Malik neighbors like that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He was. I just thought of once healthy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Can you imagine they would have won if they had Davers.

[DK]

Do you attribute that to the field at MetLife?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes. How could you not? Yeah, like I just. How could you not?

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's wistfully but just genuinely like, remember?

[Carlos]

I remember.

[DK]

Like, he writes him letters every week.

[Danny Heifetz]

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[DK]

So you just bought a house in Brentwood?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Good for you.

[Danny Heifetz]

Should we just moneyline parlay Seahawks, Mariners? Just like be good friends.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Ooh, okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just be supportive. Good friends for Danny Kelly.

[DK]

Is that being supportive or incredibly jinxing it?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Right?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, so emotional hedge is bet on both the lose.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, I don't like that.

[DK]

Would you rather. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

What would you rather bet on the Blue Jays?

[Craig Horlbeck]

No. Let's bet on the Blue Blue Jays.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just think of it as bet on.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The CX and the marriage.

[Danny Heifetz]

Think of it as paying money for the Mariners to go to the World Series. And if you that's how I bet on the Patriots to beat the Giants each time. Yeah, because I looked at it as like, oh, I agree.

[DK]

I very much believe in the emotional hedge, even though it's cowardly.

[Danny Heifetz]

I look at it very simply. If you could pay it, you said, oh before the season, Game 7. If you're like, if I could pay $100 to the Mariners to make the World Series, you're like, that's the best deal ever. Or they lose and make money every.

[DK]

Every SDSU game on that way to the national championship. I bet against them every single game. I was happy to give it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Let's so we're bet on the Blue Jays. We'll do that.

[DK]

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[Danny Heifetz]

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[Craig Horlbeck]

The old heads.

[Carlos]

Old guys.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The gray beards. Yeah.

[DK]

Your generation.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Hell yeah. Yeah, they actually are. They're actually younger than me, but barely I was like, craig, Aaron Rodgers is two years younger than me. He looks grizzled out there.

[DK]

He does look grizzled.

[Danny Heifetz]

He looks grizzly.

[DK]

Liz saw him on TV and was like, oh, God, he looks old.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He does look old.

[DK]

Leave him alone.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He can throw the ball over them. Their mouth.

[DK]

I said, you shut your mouth. He's got four turns, touchdowns right now.

[Danny Heifetz]

Joe Flacco got, like, hotter as he got older. And Roger looks great out there, actually.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And I'm like, all aboard the Flacco Redemption. I don't even know if it's a redemption tour. It's just him going out and having fun with the kids.

[Danny Heifetz]

How is it not a redemption tour?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, because he won a Super Bowl, I guess. I don't know what he's redeeming at this point, I guess. But, like, I would say it's a.

[DK]

Redemption tour for Rogers way more than Flacco.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Having fun.

[DK]

He's just old.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So. But look at him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's old.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's so old. We. So we have to. Oh, Craig, we haven't even talked about this game, but. So that. The Bengals beat the Steelers in Thursday football, 33 to 31.

[Craig Horlbeck]

A hell of a game.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was one of the more amazing games of the entire season. Just everything. The quote. Well, I don't know if quality is the right word, but, like, it was amazing. Like, it was going. You really would never know that these guys were combined 82 years old or whatever. Flacco, Rogers, was it.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The quarterback match of all time.

[Danny Heifetz]

Has to be.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

Two guys over 40 starting.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, there's only six guys that have played in their 40s, period.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And they diced up those defenses, dude, it was embarrassing.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, like, the Bengals, we know their defense sucks. The Steelers, dude, it's the most expensive defense in the NFL.

[DK]

Yeah, it was.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Greg's so sad.

[DK]

I. Yeah, I was like. I. I've never seen. I think in general, the Steelers are really bad against number one wide receivers. They always get torched. I don't think I've ever seen a number one receiver dice up a defense and have a defense be unwilling or just completely inept to cover the number one wide receiver than the Steelers were against fucking Jamar Chase.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. How many times are they going to let him run a slant?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my God.

[DK]

I was out of my mind. I'm like, just put two people right in front of him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Stand right there in front.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's embarrassing. There's a personal issue. The Steelers cornerbacks, like, after you know, Joey Porter Jr. They just don't like, you know, look, Darius Slay is the oldest cornerback I believe in the entire NFL and certainly the longest. I think he's.

[DK]

Porter got like two DPIs. It was a disaster. And. And in general, the Steelers defense has not been good for a long time. Even though I feel like the Steelers defense is fake good to me.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They have a good pass rush.

[Danny Heifetz]

T.J. watts, a great closer like they have. They honestly, they're kind of like they play the song Renegade in the third quarter and they have big moments, but they're not a good defense.

[DK]

No. Every three weeks, T.J. watt will have like a strip sack at the end of the game and everybody will freak out. But in general, like, this team is. Has not been good defensively for a long time.

[Danny Heifetz]

Schematic and they were trying to rotate coverages and stuff, but they're not good at it. Like, that's the thing. It's kind of like we always someone offenses, you know, good offenses will do motion or play action, but sometimes coaches just do it to do it. Like they don't know why. And I feel like the Steelers rotate and stuff. They don't know like how to actually trick people. Because to me, this is directly related to the same way the Bengals getting. I mean, Jamar Chase had. I can't even blame.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I want to talk about this because.

[DK]

I had 21 targets, three targets, 16.

[Danny Heifetz]

Catches, 161 yards at a touchdown. The best part to me was the last target wide open, completely uncovered. The 23rd target of the game, wide open.

[DK]

And you know why he was wide open? Because there was emotion and the secondary couldn't figure out how to respond to that. And then he was just wide open.

[Danny Heifetz]

Skeleton key 22 targets were not enough to figure out.

[DK]

Andre Y shifted to the left and it threw the defense out of whack.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They're like fainting goats. They just like get freaked out. Just tip over. Here's what. Here's what I love about Flacco. The way he moves, obviously is a little bit relatable for me being 3, 43 years old. You know, he's kind of just lumbering about out there. But if I woke, like, if, you know those dreams where you are all of a sudden thrust into these situations where you have to do something, you have no idea what you're. What you're doing. Like, that's essentially what Joe Flacco did here. He was traded within like three days. He's playing in a game. And in my mind, I'm like, okay, so I'm on this new team. I don't know the offense. There's even Joe Flacco, even after the game, was like, Zach Taylor was telling me these plays, and I didn't know what he was saying, so I just, like, ran.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So here's what I did. I passed it to Jamar Chase.

[DK]

He's like, hey, every time he goes slant.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Hot route, run over there. So here's what I would do if I was in that situation. I would pass it to the best fucking passer pass catcher on the planet 23 times.

[Danny Heifetz]

And that's what's. Again, I don't want to be too hard on my Tomlin, but, like, it's embarrassing. I think this is. This is just as bad as, like, when Baker Mayfield was there for two days and beat the Raiders. Like, this is, to me, very related to the same with the Ravens, where they can't stop the Ravens. They. Ravens are like, 500 rushing yards. And then the final two games versus the Steelers. This is even worse because what you said, the only thing you think you do if you're the Steelers is like, double Jamar Chase and make Joe Flacco actually go through his goddamn progression.

[DK]

It's not like it was, oh, at the end of the game, Jamar Chase got hot. The entire game, they were peppering him, and there was no adjustment.

[Danny Heifetz]

Joe Flacco literally was probably like, I will just throw it to him, and they'll probably, after a drive or two, just change things up. And they just didn't.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It really felt like they were playing like a turkey bowl on Thanksgiving. Just go run routes. I'm going to throw you the ball. Make it rain out here.

[Danny Heifetz]

And to your point, he had that. Funny, in the moment, it looked like a, like a read option. We're like, wow, that's amazing. Joe Flacco the keeper, and then he goes to the desk with, like, Thursday football Ryan Fitzpatrick at Amazon, and he was just like, yeah, I, I, you know, I, I think I called the formation wrong and they lined up wrong. And I look over, I'm like, screw it. Whatever. Snap it. And then, wow. Wow, that defensive end got here fast. So I was like, I just kept it. And, like, it just.

[Craig Horlbeck]

His last six quarters have been insane.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's so cool. I, I mean, he, The Flacco thing really is one of the more improbable things that we've, like, that's ever happened. Like, the combination of him coming in off his couch and, like, leading the Browns to the playoffs, that one Year was crazy. But like he has come in. I mean, he won, almost beat the packers, but come in and just beat the Steelers like this. He, he literally was saying, I don't even know what these formations mean.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He didn't know that. He, he said after the game that when the play calls were coming in, something about Zach Taylor's accent, he couldn't hear what he was saying. And so he was just like, all right, I guess I'll just go out there.

[Danny Heifetz]

Some level. This has to slam.

[DK]

Can you imagine another slam the Steelers.

[Danny Heifetz]

How is this?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know what he said.

[DK]

It is humiliating.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's humiliated. He doesn't know the place and he's 21 years old.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Now we know why Mike Tomlin was so pissed when they traded.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my God.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like he actually, I saw this from Bill Cowher. The only quarterbacks who have played Mike Tomlin 10 times or more in their careers with winning records are Tom Brady and Joe Flacco.

[DK]

Wow.

[Danny Heifetz]

Jamar chase also last two Thursday football games, has a combined 425 yards in his last two primers.

[DK]

This was the seventh best fantasy game of Joe Flacco's career. Dude, Joe Flacco is 41.

[Danny Heifetz]

So the Bengals are fully back. It's crazy because, like, look, the Steelers, in a way, I, I, There is something to the idea that something about these like three day things where Flaco's like, it's kind of actually a golf where when you have dick is gonna eyes glaze over. But it's sometimes when you have really low expectations, you actually like are playing great.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And something about where it's just like there's no pressure. Yeah. You just totally shoot simple and the execution's great. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Hates dog leg there. And I just, I hit the bunker.

[DK]

Well, I, I can I at least pivot to the other side of the ball to keep who's cooking going? Aaron Rodgers is cooking. My guy's cooking.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He is.

[DK]

He's playing so well, man. He is still doing things that I, I still think he makes throws that few quarterbacks in the league right now can make.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There was a couple incredible throws. The one to Pat Friar Muse for the touchdown was an incredible throw. He'd like a laser split the defense, dude.

[DK]

His stuff down the sideline like the first play of the game to like DK Metcalf.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

Beautiful. Also, I want to point out the Hail Mary pass attempt at the end of the game.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah.

[DK]

The past traveled and I first saw Nate Tice tweet Nate Tice tweet this. But then like next gen stats followed up up that pass the Hail Mary went traveled 69.8 yards, which is the longest recorded pass attempt since 2017.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's crazy.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, was that also him? Like, I also. I mean Rogers, he hit a Hail Mary last year.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Mary King, he had eliminary last year.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude on Monday Night Football.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean they didn't complete it for the record. Like what Nate was saying. Like he tweeted that the 70 yard thing. 69.8 yards or whatever. And somebody was like, well, he didn't complete it. He's. And it's like it was a long pass. It was a cool pass.

[Danny Heifetz]

What do you want me to grab? Missing the point. Like, don't forget two weeks ago. No, one week ago we. We saw Mahomes try Hail Mary. Like Mahomes Hertz can't but like Mahomes. You know, if you were. You were like, all right, everyone line up. Who could throw the furthest? We'd probably be like, like probably Josh Homes Herbert and like Rogers probably could throw further than Josh and all these guys like 70 yards. Maybe Josh, I guess you can throw 70. But like Mahomes tried and like really like launched it and he didn't. He couldn't do it. 70 like that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It was a good play by the defender. I will say he put it in a place where I think DK Metcalf could have.

[DK]

It was a great throw.

[Danny Heifetz]

It just 59.8 yards away. Put it in a good place. Like that's actually so. But Overwatch is the mobility everything like. And also the other thing we have to Arthur Smith in the offense crushing it. We. I made. I had a lot of questions and fun. I made fun of them of just like, how is this going to work? Arthur Smith and Rogers and what they want to do doesn't seem to jive. And guess what? This crazy fakta offense that Arthur Smith has kind of made of like the three tight ends. All three Steelers tight end scored in this game. I think it was crazy. All three are top 15 fantasy guys. But the idea of the running game and just basically beating the crap out of people. But then Rogers is like crazy overqualified game manager and like, like absurdly talented. But they're going to run like it has threaded the needle on accomplishing a lot of what they need to do.

[DK]

It's such a bummer that this is the year. The Steelers defense is the worst it's ever been. Austin texted us the worst. This is the worst Steelers defense this millennium. By yards allowed per drive. It's such a bummer that finally the Steelers offense looks competent again. Rogers is the only quarterback in the league with multiple four touchdown pass games this year. And I think you got to give it to him honestly. Like the humility of him being like I'm, I'm going to adhere to what Arthur Smith wants me to do. I'm going to go under center, I'm.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Going to move a lot.

[DK]

Like I'm not just going to park and bark shotgun, do my shit. Like he is playing this new style really, really well.

[Danny Heifetz]

Rogers, it's better when he isn't in charge of everything. Yeah, like he didn't have options. This was the only team. And like it's better when he isn't. Doesn't get everything.

[DK]

He could get hurt next week. But you have to look back on the season and be like Rogers was not washed. Like what happened with the jets last year. I mean God, with what's going on with the jets this year, you almost look back at Rogers last year and you're like wasn't that bad.

[Danny Heifetz]

This is kind of. I know. This is kind of why I'm like when Pennix got careful what you wish for.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

When Michael Penix got hurt, banged up tonight and Kirk was gonna come. I'm like, Kirk probably is better again. The same thing. Achilles the next year probably not great. The year after, the year after the Achilles. I mean Kirk's probably better than Pennix. If Pennix got hurt, my Kirk would probably play better too. Yeah, the other. Who's cooking? Just old guys, dude. Stafford and the Rams this morning versus.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The Jetsford is really cooking.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Rams are, are unbelievable. And Stafford is just having quietly one of the better years of his whole career.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, I was gonna say yeah because.

[DK]

I think he's like playing with his food.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You know Stafford loves like the no look passes like the arm angle.

[DK]

He's like the old guy on the pickup court. He's like doing like behind the back and he's like shooting it over his head.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, totally.

[DK]

Yeah. And one mixtape.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He had 33 past attempts. I mean 182 yards. It wasn't like he was going like racking up a ton of yards. In the game today in London against Jacksonville, they blew him out. He had five touchdown passes through five touchdown passes. Devonte Adams had five catches for 35 yards and three touchdowns.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude, Stafford, he hasn't had five touchdown passes in 10 years and he's the. Stafford's the first person to ever throw an international game five touchdowns.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Seven games in. Stafford has 17 touchdown passes this week. This year he had 20 last year total.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's wild.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And that was a pretty good team. They went to playoffs.

[DK]

They almost beat the Eagles.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, they were. I mean they had some ups and downs during the regular season, but I mean Stafford is absolutely on one this year. He's on pace for 41 touchdowns.

[DK]

Old guy still got it.

[Danny Heifetz]

We have to tattoo this for ourselves of like I don't care if Matt Stafford's hurt in August. I don't need him to practice. I don't need to do anything. Like he will show up every Sunday. And I actually regret a lot about.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like his back and stuff the whole offseason. Him in the trailer.

[Danny Heifetz]

Famously the most his famous.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's like in there doing some weird thing.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't even know.

[DK]

His sleeves hanging upside down like a bat.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Take pressure off his back.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude, I, that sounds good. Actually.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I kind of want to do that. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just unbelievable. And also so Pukinuku is number three receiver in the fantasy season. Even though he missed this week, he's still number three overall. Devontae is number six overall in points. Like they're both top six kingmaker. So yeah. Stafford. Yeah. Other person who's absolutely cooking. I know this was two days ago. I don't care. Shohei Ohtani had the best baseball game I think that's ever been played in Major League Baseball.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's crazy. Baseball's been around.

[Danny Heifetz]

So like 118 70s or what? I, I really think this is. I, I. First of all, let's just start here. I think Otani is the best baseball player of all time.

[DK]

I, I don't even think it's that big of a discussion. I feel like he just obviously is, obviously is. I agree.

[Danny Heifetz]

He, he needs, it's not like goat status because he needs to like they need to win the World Series. He probably needs like two or three. But like he clear. He clearly is just the most talented person who's ever tried this thing.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Since Tungsten Armo Doyle.

[Danny Heifetz]

Tungsten Armo Doyle.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's number one.

[DK]

I mean he's, he can hit 50 home runs. He can lead the league in steals. He had 10 strikeouts in six innings and hit three homers in a playoff.

[Danny Heifetz]

I remember when he struck out Kyle Schwarber. When he struck out Kyle Schwab, I was like, so the guy with like the fourth most homers just struck out the guy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's like the kid in, in the the Little League World series who's like three times bigger than everyone else. This kid's like 18, right?

[Danny Heifetz]

Exactly what it is, the little World Series. It's like only little World series. Like yeah, six innings, struck out 10, hit three home runs. But yeah, that's the dude. I just going through it. So the Dodger, you know, listening to this, you're not a baseball person. The Dodgers swept the brewers who had again didn't play well. They did have the most wins in baseball this season. So it wasn't like nobody that they played good team. So Dodgers swept the Brewers. Ohtani pitches game four. Ohtani has 10 strikeouts over six shutout innings.

[DK]

Yeah, but say how he started the game so he.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm just going to read the actual order of things. Ohtani, first inning. Ohtani strikes out three batters in the top of the first. Bottom of the first, he is the first. He hits a leadoff home run. I mean, so he's the first pitcher to ever hit a lead off home run, period. Then he strikes out three more guys. Then he hits another home run off a different pitcher. Literally out of the park. He hits a baseball. Moonshine hits a baseball.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He crushed it.

[Danny Heifetz]

He hit it out of the fucking stadium.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think in my lifetime. Look, I don't know that much about. I'm not like a huge baseball expert. I watch baseball my whole life. But I think the two most intimidating hitters I've ever seen in my life are Barry Bonds and Shhei Otani.

[Danny Heifetz]

I agree.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, Mark McGuire would probably be up there too, obviously. But Shohei Ohtani looks like three times bigger than everyone.

[Danny Heifetz]

So big.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And he goes up there and he just like stands straight up and then just golfs the ball out. Like it's insane.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's so limber.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's like the most like it just makes you feel primal when you watch it. I'm like, he is going to crush that.

[Danny Heifetz]

He has reached the Barry Bonds thing.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He really does.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, it's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's like insane how hard he hits the ball.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cuz like, I think you're right to bring up Bonds because I think Bonds is the last guy that when the pitcher's pitching, you obviously are a psycho and you think you're better than everyone. And Ohtani, like even all these great hitters that have been around like Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera, I'm sure we're leaving. Yeah, but yeah, there's a hundred. But the point is he's like not human. And the pitcher is like, oh my God, I'm facing show a Tony.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm just Talking purely like, if I was the other team, a fan of the other team. The person I'm most scared of, like, Ohtani is like, oh, God, he's going to fucking.

[Danny Heifetz]

His resume is insane. Like the World Baseball Classic. I know you guys know this, but the World Baseball Classic, like, maybe you remember this, but Japan was playing America in the final and he struck out. He like just. He closed the World Baseball Classic and he like struck out Mike Trout to end the game. He played like monkey Betts and Freddie Freeman and Mike Trout and he just like beat them all. I'm like, Those are like three MVPs in a row. So then he's doing this and sorry, just to go through. Ohtani is the second player to ever strike out 10 guys and hit a home run in the playoffs. Bob Gibson shout out did it twice in the World Series, but Bob Gibson hit one home run. Ohtani hit three home runs. Cannot stress enough. One of them went 460ft. And in the 10 years they've been tracking is like the third largest, third longest home run ever in the stadium. He also struck out 10 people.

[DK]

And I just scoreless innings.

[Danny Heifetz]

Six scoreless innings. And I just, I think he lit up like three. He is.

[DK]

It's unbelievable.

[Danny Heifetz]

He is. It's obvious. Again, saying he's at the point where. To your point, Craig, saying Ohtani is the best baseball player ever feels like a very middle of the road, mainstream thing to say. To the point where I actually would think Ohtani has done something I didn't think anyone would do. Where we were just like two weeks ago joking that like if the human race had to defend, like if. You know that movie Troy, where they just said, yeah, we have 40,000 people on each side. Let's just send one guy one on one. Let's just, you know, save some, you know, winner takes. We like LeBron is like that guy for us. LeBron is just like our athlete. Like he could represent us. And I'm like. I think Ohtani is like right there in terms of just like, like he's clearly. He. You mentioned the once in 100 loss. Like Ohtani is genuinely a once in a century person for like the whole world. Like, it's just. It's actually crazy.

[DK]

I think the added you of when last year he just led the league in steals was because he couldn't 50.

[Danny Heifetz]

He can't pitch one season. 50 home runs and 50 steals.

[DK]

Yeah, I think it's the true.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's why I brought up the Little League World Series or Little League. Yeah. I was just like, it doesn't feel like he's playing on the same level as everyone else. You know what I mean?

[DK]

Have you seen Movie Bench Warmer?

[Danny Heifetz]

No.

[DK]

When they bring in the team, brings in the guy who's, like, 32 years old, like, from the Dominican Republic, and he has, like, a fake birth certificate. It's written in crayon. It says, I am 12.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[DK]

He's just unbelievable.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's kind of. You know what's funny? It's the real life Chad Powers, like, where Eli shows up to a D3 team and is like, oh, like, wow. Why is this guy the best guy ever? Like, this is that dude.

[DK]

I think Ohtani is the best contract in baseball.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my God. God, what does he cost again? He's, like, deferred all the money.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Which made way more sense after the.

[DK]

You know, it's like, in total, it's like $700 million, whatever it is, but it's. It's immediately worth it. Whatever they've made. And just, like, the merchandising and all that, it's probably worth it alone, but what he's doing on the field is still worth it.

[Danny Heifetz]

He also, like, frankly, I think he's going to, like, save the sport. Like, the amount of just children who were not going to be into baseball that are going to be in a baseball because of this guy, I know, is hard to calculate.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But do you guys want to know my intrusive thoughts?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yes, I do.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Happen during this. So basically, Ohtani is going out and doing something no one's ever seen before, basically, on Friday night. And. And the Mariners, meanwhile, like, extended their season, essentially. If they would have lost at home there. It have been really, really tough to. To beat the Blue Jays, but they had a big dumper. Cal Raleigh hit a home run to tie the game, and then Geno Suarez hit a grand slam. Like one of the great. One of my favorite sports memories of all time. And I go into the group chat, and you guys are just talking about Ohtani, and I was like, fuck Ohtani. He stole our thunder. Like, I was so pissed because you guys kept talking about Ohtani, and I'm like, did you guys not watch the Mariners game? Like, that was an incredible game.

[DK]

It's gonna be your first World Series ever. They're gonna get swept.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But I was like. I was just like. So. I was, like, so mad at you guys because I was like, dude, the Mariners, they won, and he's the greatest. Like, didn't acknowledge what I said, and.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was just like, this Stuff that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Otani's doing is insane.

[Danny Heifetz]

The super cut of Ohtani, just all his strikeouts in chronological order.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And like, it's just strikeout, strikeout, strikeout, home run, strikeout. Also, three different pitchers he hit the home runs off of and three different pitches.

[DK]

He was three for three for three homers.

[Danny Heifetz]

Did the Mariners play that night? I'm kidding.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. No, I know. I, I look, I totally understand and, like, I recognize and appreciate what Ohtani is doing, but I was just also just like, you guys, like, damn it. It was like a sweep.

[Danny Heifetz]

That was. There was no drama.

[DK]

No.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, my God.

[Danny Heifetz]

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[DK]

I'm going to be calm about this.

[Craig Horlbeck]

This.

[Danny Heifetz]

Great start.

[DK]

I'm going to be calm about this because starting Trayon Henderson at this point is not his fault. Or it's not. It's my fault.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, it is.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's.

[DK]

I'm to blame because I did it again. And he, he.

[Danny Heifetz]

Why?

[DK]

Because.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because he remembered that 100 yard punt or kick return from the preseason.

[DK]

Here's my rationale. This is now the second week after Antonio Gibson's torn acl. He's out. They're playing the Titans, and I'm like, they're going to run up the score. This, this is the perfect game game for them to incorporate. You know, there, there have been games that, like, week three, he had 14 touches, so I'm like, okay. And last week he had 10, so I'm like, you know, maybe 15 is reasonable against the Titans. And you know what? I was right. We. We bet on the Pats Ringer 107. They were up on the Titans most of the game. There's 31:13 in like the third quarter. Travy and Henderson had. I'm gonna stay calm because it's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because I feel my heart rate going.

[DK]

It's my fault. He had two carries for five yards today. And. And in garbage time, they. To give him the ball. They gave the ball to a Man named Terrell Jennings, who is an undrafted free agent who got five carries in garbage time. And it's. It's on me. Henderson, how many snaps did he play? Five.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, he played three. I. I think I saw this.

[Danny Heifetz]

He played three snaps in NPC.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So R.A. stevenson. Oh. In the first three quarters. So essentially non garbage time. Non garbage time.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Ramandre, I think I saw this from PFF. Had 42 out of 45 snapshot. Trayvon played three snaps. And then they gave the ball to this guy Jennings in garbage time. And then after the game. The best part is just add insult to injury. After the game, there's this video of Mike Vrabel. Like he sees this Jennings. What's his name?

[Danny Heifetz]

Terrell Jennings.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Terrell Jennings. Yeah. He sees him from like 30, 40ft away. Just huge smile on his face. Walks up to him like a reunion. They hadn't seen each other in years. Gives him this big hug. Hug. Brael loves this.

[DK]

Have you ever seen that video of the guy who like raised lions and then he reunited with him, hugged. It was like that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It was like if Brable's son was in the game. And he's like, I'm so proud of you, son. You did an amazing job. I've. He's like got tears in his eyes. Trayvon Henderson is never seeing the field again.

[DK]

I. I get such a bad Trayvon Henderson hangover every. Every Monday I wake up and I just a splitting headache. And the next Saturday night comes around, I'm like, I'm gonna start him. I completely.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You actually just can't start him anymore?

[DK]

No.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like I to let you.

[DK]

I won't drop him because if there's anything worse than dealing with this, it's me dropping him and then he goes off. He will be on my team.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You just have to like, just out of principle.

[DK]

Absolutely.

[Danny Heifetz]

So on that note, I need to.

[DK]

Be right if it ever pays off.

[Danny Heifetz]

I have a. I have a new game I want to play.

[DK]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's called two running backs who outscored Travion Henderson and a lie.

[DK]

I mean, he scored 0.5 points.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, so actually on that note, I actually going to tweak the game a little bit because there are. If you just the whole week. And so everything except for the 2 million football games remains. 66 running backs registered fantasy points of any kind. Like played.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

Travy on Henderson ranks of the 66, 64th this week. Like he beat.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Who is worse.

[Danny Heifetz]

He beat two players. So I'm going to invert the game. We're going to play the only two players who did not outscore Travian Henderson and one guy who did.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I like this.

[Danny Heifetz]

And I'm going to be honest with you. These are just the bottom four people. It's Trayvon Henderson, two people below him and one guy above him. Okay, so Devin Neal on the Saints. The Saints third string running back.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Right.

[DK]

Because Kendra got hurt. Right.

[Danny Heifetz]

Devin Singletary, the Giants third string running back. And Hunter Lipke, who was the Cowboys fullback.

[Craig Horlbeck]

One of those guys saw him get the ball.

[Danny Heifetz]

One of those guys outscored to register.

[DK]

A stat that means they were given the ball. Correct? Or is that not? Is that not?

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it's like snaps. I think.

[DK]

Were they like targeted?

[Danny Heifetz]

Did. I'll double check. Don't look at my screen. I'll double check.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I remember Devin.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't actually know. Also if you searched. I, I, I, I can't actually, I'm.

[DK]

Gonna say the populating, I'm gonna say the, the fullback did not score. Tristan. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Wait, did or did not? Because two, I'm flipping the game. Two of these people are the only two people belong. So you have to guess the person who did.

[DK]

Oh, the person who did. I'll say that's Devin Neal.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, same.

[Danny Heifetz]

Nah, it's Hunter Lipkets.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I knew Hunter Lipkey outscored him. I saw that guy. The only, I think he had maybe a catch.

[Danny Heifetz]

64Th out of 66 running backs, Draven Henderson today, like and what that, what.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm saying, you could have started anybody.

[DK]

You know, I could have added Terrell Jennings.

[Danny Heifetz]

If you had literally picked anybody else, you would have had like a 99 chance to be better. Like literally.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You could have scrolled down to the very bottom of the running back list and probably outscored.

[DK]

I, I can't remember a bigger bust in fantasy based on hype.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh yeah, dude. Craig.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, it's Clyde Edwards. Clyde Edwards.

[Craig Horlbeck]

A We're not, we're talking about fantasy. Well, yeah, I guess that's true.

[DK]

He was like what was he, was he at least giving you like 12 points a game?

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I think Clyde Clyde Edwards AER is probably the worst. Like because he was like a first round pick.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, let's just base. It was like this.

[Danny Heifetz]

But he wasn't playing that much. But no, but I'm not trying to take. Because Trayvon was like a fourth round pick. Fifth round pick.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Who he got pushed up into the third round.

[Danny Heifetz]

Trayvon is playing closer to like Caleb Johnson who is like not playing.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Scored more.

[DK]

I know, dude, I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Caleb Johnson. Caleb, like. Like, Trayon's not playing, dude.

[DK]

Clyde Edwards. Hilarious. First six games, I mean, week one, he had 140 yards and a touchdown. Week two, 70 yards. Week three, 140 yards. Week five, 90 yards. Week the next week, 80. The next week, 170.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's what I'm saying. He was. He was a disappointment relative to, I think, what. Wait, what are you looking at?

[DK]

Scrimmage? Yeah, I'm looking at his game log for rookie season. Look at that first game.

[Danny Heifetz]

All right, fair enough.

[DK]

I mean, that's. I mean, it's not. I guess. Look at his receiving yards.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah, fair enough. The second half was pretty bad, actually, but. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

[DK]

Yeah, it's still honestly, not great, but it's just. It is a calamity.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's. He's. He's. He, like, calamity. Injuries out. He has to be the worst pick.

[DK]

I texted Bill about it, and Bill said he hasn't had one good play all year. I'm not kidding.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'm not kidding.

[Danny Heifetz]

Probably good time to buy low.

[Craig Horlbeck]

R.J. harvey's outscored him.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, Well, I think the question is, how long can you have until you cut him? No, when you cut him, he's instantly gonna start playing correct.

[DK]

You can't cut him.

[Danny Heifetz]

I mean, you can. You can do whatever you want.

[DK]

No, you cannot.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude. He has literally played three snaps. He played three snaps.

[DK]

I won't cut.

[Danny Heifetz]

How many people play three snaps?

[DK]

I can't go down with him making some miraculous comeback and then he's like, the winner of the second half of the year. That's. I'll.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'll.

[DK]

I can't deal with it.

[Danny Heifetz]

I agree. If you cut him, I'm gonna add him.

[DK]

I don't want you.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't want that.

[DK]

You should.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, you should cut. No, no, I won't pick him up.

[DK]

I won't cut him.

[Danny Heifetz]

No. But then I'll be sad.

[DK]

Like, he doesn't even. Like, I. I can't even justify the category of it. So over with tr. But he's a good.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a. So there's no answer to this. Like, literally, Rabel's found, dude.

[DK]

Terrell Jennings, like, put it this way.

[Danny Heifetz]

Hey, have a day and missed a game. Are we even sure that Henderson would even play? Like, Terrell? Like. Like, he probably, like, rotate in with this Terrell dude.

[DK]

I mean, not. Randre leads the league in fumbles. It doesn't even matter.

[Danny Heifetz]

I actually like that Rabel isn't pulling for this. I'm saying if you're holding him, I'm like, if Ramanji got hurt.

[Craig Horlbeck]

How much.

[Danny Heifetz]

Would Henderson even be on the field?

[DK]

Is he that bad? Has it been that big of a disaster?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't. I don't know. I think the first couple games he had a few big.

[DK]

Sure.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude was bad.

[DK]

Like, the third quarter, they're up. They're up 15. He's.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's. Yeah. You think you want to give him a drive for reps? I think Vrabel is a person.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Couldn't wait to get this Jennings guy in.

[DK]

Like, even on just like run only downs when you know you're gonna just put them in.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think this is the. The bottom. Because it. I mean. Well, I guess in theory he could go to 65th or 66. 6. I don't know, given a week, so he'd see more.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You said it a couple weeks ago, though, like, like, I just don't think Vrabel likes him.

[DK]

He doesn't, obviously. I mean, this is why I'm saying I'm to blame because Vrabel is clearly signaling to everyone.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know, it's so funny. There's something so funny about fantasy football where fantasy football people like you, we convince ourselves to play guys whose coaches won't play them.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Which is like the funniest thing ever.

[DK]

Because Vrabel doesn't give a shit that he was a second round pick. If he's not good, he's not going to play him. You play players that are good.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Good.

[DK]

That's.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was like. It's so funny too, because Rabel's like winning the AFC East.

[DK]

Yeah. And he's like. And we're like, well, he was great at Ohio State and he looked good in the preseason and he was a second round pick. And Rabel's like, I don't care about any of that. Yeah, he's not good. So in practice he's bad.

[Danny Heifetz]

Speaking of not good, not bad. Another. It's so over. I feel like Justin Fields is so over. Dk.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, yeah, he was benched today.

[DK]

Poor Jets.

[Craig Horlbeck]

For real, I guess. I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

He Panthers beat the Jets 13 to 6. And it. It was.

[DK]

Was tough.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, it was actually a close game. The jets were in a position where they could even potentially win this game.

[Danny Heifetz]

Rod Taylor had a chance after the jets played the. One of the worst performances since almost seven days ago when they were the worst team I've ever seen. And Todd Taylor, in the first play of this drive to tie the game. Throws an interception. And so I, I, I don't know. But Fields. Do you think Fields starts next week?

[Craig Horlbeck]

TK I don't know. I'm so. I don't, I don't know what the right thing. I don't even know what I would do in this situation because Fields, the way that he's playing right now, it's almost like a. You. They cannot literally. Huh? They can't. They cannot move the football. Fields through six games. Dude, I think he's averaging.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think the 116 Browns can move the football better than this team.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, he's averaging 140 passing yards a game, and he's not running all that much.

[DK]

It's funny.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He has four touchdowns in seven games. Wait, have they played six or seven games? I don't remember.

[DK]

They've played six. But he got hurt in one of them or. No, they played seven. They've had about.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's played seven games. He's played six. They played seven.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's got one of them. He's been sacked the second most times in the NFL, 22 times. Only Cam Ward has more sacks. So think about how many sacks. Think about a sack as like a drive killer. Almost always.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Especially for an offense like this. They're not. If they get sacked, the drive is essentially over. The last two games for Justin Fields, he's 15 or 29 for 91 yards. Three yards per 10.

[Danny Heifetz]

You guys.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No touchdowns and only 50 rushing yards.

[DK]

No interceptions, though.

[Craig Horlbeck]

17% success rate on the play plays for, For Justin Fields.

[Danny Heifetz]

I know I'm a dead horse at this, which is beating a dead horse. But like the Broncos game last week, the jets had 80 yards and 30 of them were on it. One drive, the best drive the jets had. The jets gave up on trying to score. Literally. They had a. They had 45 seconds to score. And Aaron Glenn was like, I don't think we can get 15 more yards to get field range. And they gave up. And that was their best drive was when they quit.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Austin says the jets have one touchdown in the first three quarters of games since week two.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, it's.

[DK]

It's their first three quarters.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm telling you. Like, this is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Their offense is non functional.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm not like a Giants fan trying to beat them.

[DK]

The jets, like they are kind of call it.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're Owen 16 level.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We're just gonna go.

[DK]

We're done. You guys get the way.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We're sick of this.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, we should. The defense isn't as bad, but the offense is 0 and 16 level.

[DK]

What's funny is that the fantasy side of Fields is so bizarre because basically.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He has multiple 20 point games.

[DK]

He has. He has three games of 25 or more points. Points and three games of less than five. So he is literally either the best quarterback in fantasy because the like 25 is the best quarterback in fantasy or the worst. Yeah, he'll either be number one or 32.

[Danny Heifetz]

So he's.

[DK]

Or any given week.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's so funny because like we're in a super flex league. I have him in the ringer league and I'm like, so do I like cut this guy if they bench him or like, you know what I mean? It's just, it's just crazy.

[DK]

Bizarre.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, it's pretty. Again, it's the Panthers. It's not like the Broncos two weeks ago. Like this is the Panthers and he couldn't do anything. Yeah, it's so over. It's also so over. It is so over for Tua and Mike McDaniel and the dolphins. It's never been more of it. The Dolphins lost to the Browns.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Who has a more operational offense, the Dolphins or the Jets?

[Danny Heifetz]

Dolphins. No, the Jets. I'm not trying to be over exaggerating. Like it is the turnovers, the lack of turnovers. Turnovers obviously the worst thing an offense can do. But if you take out turnover. I have never seen an offense struggle to gain yardage. Like I've seen the jets the last like four weeks.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Every time you look up there in third and eleven.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Dolphins though lost to the Browns 31 to 6. I. It was so sad. Like it was actually like I felt so bad for Mike McDaniel. Like it's pouring rain. He's watching his like entire lifetime of hubs and dreams just like slip through his fingers. And it was in addition to all these passes from Tua.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Jesus slip through his fingers.

[DK]

NFL should really be like a guillotine league. It should be every week a team is eliminated. How nice would that be?

[Craig Horlbeck]

And then they just redistribute all the other week 12.

[DK]

We don't have to watch the.

[Danny Heifetz]

We should quarantine teams. Like, like we should put them in a separately. Like we just like the Dolphins and the brown Dolphins and the jets just have to play each other every week.

[DK]

It's a guillotine league, but the teams that are getting eliminated join the loser pool. And they play every week on like Fridays.

[Danny Heifetz]

So Friday afternoon. Yeah, like remember that one co game that was like Wednesday at afternoon, which is that one people would Watch that.

[DK]

That's like great idea. If the NFL wants to own more.

[Danny Heifetz]

Of the week, that should be the other Monday football game. Stop putting good teams but the bad games. Yeah, the something there.

[DK]

Roger.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, Roger. Someone send us to Goodell.

[DK]

He's listening.

[Danny Heifetz]

He is. Someone could send him this clip. Don't listen to the other things we said.

[DK]

Should we let Carlos rant?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, I do. So two or three for exactly 100 yards. He threw three interceptions, all in the second half.

[DK]

He fumbled three times as well.

[Danny Heifetz]

Three times. Carlos could come here in a second. CBS had a game break announcing a second pick pick and then during the game break he threw a third pick. And it's just. So anyway, so Carlos, lifelong Dolphins fan here. Carlos, are you okay?

[DK]

Wait, wait. No, no, no. My question to Carlos is who are you the most mad at?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Chris Greer, the GM. The GM has been here for 25 years.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He had no hesitation there.

[Carlos]

I look, if I could choose anybody to get fired tomorrow, it would be Chris greer. Like obviously McDaniel probably, maybe will be. Will be fired this week. I mean, losing to the Browns by more than 25 points is kind of insane or so. So yeah, I don't know. McDaniel probably is going to get fired, but like, and they might bench TUA and then we're on in full on tank mode, which is just rough. But none of that matters if Chris Greer is still making the picks. Like this team is a disaster because this roster is a disaster.

[Danny Heifetz]

I totally agree. I mean, Chris career has missed so many picks. Should I say my theory is that a little reckless?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'll say it. We can cut it if this is bad.

[DK]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it's pretty middle of the road, so. I agree with what you're saying, Carlos. I think that Chris career, the GM is more than just out of getting fired. And he has not for two reasons. One, he's been there for a long time. Not been the GM for 25 years, but he's been the Dolphins since like the late 90s. I think Chris Gear is not being fired from the Dolphins because he knows where all the bodies are buried for the various things the Dolphins have broken the rules for. Like the. Again, these are not like conspiracy theories. Like the Dolphins were already investigated and punished by the NFL for like trying to get Tom Brady and Sean Payton on Steven Ross's yacht to like collab, like collude and get them there. Like the Dolphins have been punished for multiple things that Chris Cruz there for Brian Flores, the former coach of The Dolphins is literally suing, like, multiple NFL teams as part of a lawsuit. I straight up don't think that Steven Ross, the owner of the Dolphins, can fire the GM who was there for a lot of this and just. Just knows. He just knows too much to. To. To fire him. Like, you can't get rid of a guy like that in this moment. I don't know if that's true, but it's just my Occam's Razor of just, like, why is this guy still running the team?

[DK]

Yeah, but if you fire him in the offseason, doesn't the same rule apply?

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't think he can get fired till this legal stuff's resolved. Honestly, like, I. I kind of think. I. I don't think Chris Greer can get fired to the floor as law lawsuits resolved. I just. He just knows too much. He was there.

[Carlos]

Which is why they're in no man's land. Like, if Chris Greer is not going to be fired, then there's literally, literally no hope for this team. Like, because, okay, so now TUA has this massive contract, right? They can't. If they cut him this off season, he's. We're going to be taking, like, a Russell Wilson Broncos level cap hit the next season. So you're holding on to him for a year. So we have another year of TUA for sure, most likely. And Chris Greer is still in charge of this team. Give me a reason to have hope. This team scored 70 points. What are we doing?

[DK]

Do they have 70 points this year? Probably.

[Danny Heifetz]

Do you. Do you want Mike McDaniel fired, Carlos? Like, Like, I'm talking, like, tomorrow, like, this is Sunday. Do you want Mike McDaniel fired Monday?

[Carlos]

I still have in my mind, like, there's like, I kind of maybe wonder, like, what would to. What would Mike McDaniel do with a quarterback who wasn't as limited? But maybe that's, like, foolish of me and we should just.

[Danny Heifetz]

Just.

[Carlos]

I don't know. Like, I don't know. It's. It's tough. I feel bad with either way, honestly. Like, I'm kind of over it.

[DK]

I think they have to get rid of McDaniel. I think the vibes have gotten too bad. Like, just his whole situation in the press conferences, like, the way he's, like, conflicting or arguing with his players, like, through press conferences. I feel like you kind of can't go back from that stuff. I do feel like McDaniel, he's going to land somewhere as an offensive coordinator, and I think he's probably going to be Great. And maybe that's just what he's meant to do. But it's tough because I, I feel like he's going to be awesome somewhere close.

[Danny Heifetz]

He has not been able to fix the running game stuff. And he was a run game coordinator with the 49ers. Like, that's his actual background. And it's been terrible. And they're nine. The Dolphins suck in short yardage. Now, to your point of Carlos, like, they have missed a lot of picks on the offensive line. But I, I just, I, I, I, I feel bad for you, Carlos, because you pointed this out to me. The thing with two. And I think the reason a lot of our criticism of TUA made Dolphins fans really upset. Two is unambiguously the best quarterback the Dolphins have had in Carlos's life since Dan Marino. Like, it's not even close. Like, till 2, I made the Pro Bowl a couple years ago. The Dolphins were the only team in the NFL that didn't have a Pro Bowler in the 21st century at quarterback. Do you know how hard that is? And Trubisky made the Pro bowl, like, not even an alternate. Like, that's what it took. So, I mean, it's so sad that two is, like, not even close to good enough. I think that's obvious now. And the, it's not even just the health stuff. It's like, obviously, who did the Browns have? I think Derek Anderson in 07 had a randomly good year here. But the, and also just. I know, but just to say this, because I think what I was saying about the gm, Chris Greer, I know that's like, kind of explosive. Just to pick one example from stuff that Brian Flores has alleged in these lawsuits. Just because I don't want to just say what I'm saying without just to give you an idea of why I think this and why, again, why I think I don't think the Dolphins will fire the GM until this Flores thing is resolved. I'm going to just read a quote from Brian Flores, because I don't want to speculate Brian Flores. Well, you know what I'm saying? Brian Flores says about that. He basically said Steven Ross, the owner of the team, offered $100,000 per loss because he wanted to tank for a quarterback. That was the year they got to it. And one of the reasons that he, Flores didn't like him. And so Flores says, quote, I'm reading that was a conversation about not doing as much as we needed to do in order to win football games, take a flight, go on vacation. I'll give you $100,000 per loss. Those were his exact words. I deal in truth. I tell the players this as well. I'm going to. I'm going to give you good news, bad news, but it's going to be honest to disrespect the game like that. Trust was lost, and there were certainly some strained relationships. Ultimately, I think that was my demise in Miami. End quote. So I'm saying, like, that stuff we know about, I'm just saying I just don't think when there's like, allegations like he's like, he offered 100k under the table per loss to Tank. There's a. There's a. And obviously there's other stuff involved in the Flores lawsuit. Like, there's. There's just too much going on. I don't think he can fire Chris.

[DK]

DK offered me that today in our matchup in the ring early, and I said no more battling because of it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Carlos, just last word here, because I'm sorry, but do you want to hold on to Tua next year?

[Carlos]

If it all depends again, like, if they're drafting a quarterback high, then they can do the whole, like, pretend that he's sitting behind Tua for a year and then he doesn't thing. I'm fine with that outcome if it saves them money in the long run.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cool.

[Carlos]

Well, I'm.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm like. Sorry, that's. Yeah, dude. Sorry.

[Carlos]

It's all right. I'll go back and listen to the pod from you guys reacting to the 70 point game.

[Danny Heifetz]

You'll always have that.

[DK]

That game was awesome. The Dolphins at one were like, by far one of the coolest offenses I've ever seen.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know what's crazy? If the Broncos had like six more minutes in that game, I bet they could have came back and won. You know, it would have been okay. Let's get to America's favorite segment here. Fart or shart?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I don't think we have the sound drop, funnily enough, because we're in person. So do you guys want to just make a bunch of fart noises?

[DK]

Dk, fart or short?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, my. All right, thanks.

[DK]

All right. D.K. daniel. What's up, Danny. Yeah, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Shark. I just feel like the vibes are horrific.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They'Re just like, back to being the Jags. It's the sloppiest team in the NFL.

[DK]

They lost two straight. They had 13 penalties. Today they lead the league in penalties. Lawrence took seven sacks, tied for a career high. Jags are four and three this is a shart two.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You. Yeah, I think that the. The. The beginning of the season. The beginning of the season was we thought they were good because they kept getting a bunch of turnovers, and turnovers are super. What's the word I'm looking for? There's high variance play, and I don't really think they're that good. So I kind of think it's a fart. Okay. Also, Brian Thomas got hurt today.

[DK]

Yep. Hurt his shoulder three.

[Danny Heifetz]

Three days ago. I was like, if they beat the Rams, is it a.

[DK]

You want to talk about Ewing theory? One injury away from having a good team.

[Danny Heifetz]

There you go. My God. We should. Should that be a power hour? Injuries that'll make teams better.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's kind of funny, actually, but not. Not to laugh about.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, we would never. We would never.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Injuries on anyone.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Cardinals are way better than Jacoby Brissette, though.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, unquestionably way better.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's not even close. The Jaguars, though. I do think this is a fart for two reasons. One, I just. I don't.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No one ever agrees with me when I do this.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's not true. We usually bully you. Well, that's true.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I don't think one time I've ever said it.

[DK]

You guys are like, okay. There's no right answer.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, you guys.

[DK]

It's a feeling.

[Danny Heifetz]

Definitely.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I also still don't really know what it. What the difference is.

[Danny Heifetz]

You. You. You'll learn, buddy.

[DK]

Yeah. After. After a few times, we ate some.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Real greasy food today. Maybe I'll find out. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, I.

[DK]

Do you think it's a. A fart?

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, it's like, I don't want to draw too much from, like, one London game.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I know.

[Danny Heifetz]

I also think more than one London game. I know they lead the league. They're sloppy, but also, they, like, did beat the Chiefs two weeks ago, which was also weird because they kind of didn't really deserve to do that. But I think that this was Liam Cohen, who worked for Shawn McVeigh, going up against Shawn McVeigh and I. There's something about, you know, know, building a program. Sean McVeigh's, I mean, @ this point, been running the Rams. We're coming up on, like, a decade. Sean McVeigh is obviously, you know, he's. He's the. The teacher.

[DK]

40 yet?

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, no.

[Danny Heifetz]

Not even 39.

[DK]

39.

[Craig Horlbeck]

20 something.

[DK]

He's 39, so.

[Danny Heifetz]

But I think that, like, Liam Cohen is the student with a way worse team and going against, like, the, you know, the master with the way better team and I'm like honestly the first time that happens it's usually like Star wars. Like you get some limbs cut off. Like you like. Like it's like Shannon with the Falcons tonight. It's like those guys like not directly work for him but I'm like kind of like. Like they're all been passed like oh, the defense of coordinator for the Falcons did. I'm like the first time you. You meet up as you're trying to beat a program, like you usually get the crap kicked out of you. And I think that's what happened today.

[DK]

Well, I think the question is is what. What is a far or shart for Jacksonville? Like when you said shart, is that to you them going 7 and 10 or is that to you being like this will never work? Like what is a shart to you? They have no shot at the playoff.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Probably them going like 7 and 10.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're 4 and 3 going into the buy and I think the Jags are play the Raiders in week nine and probably K crap out of the Raiders and then they'll be five and three and then they're playing the Texans in week 10 and it's like they could for all we know like be tied with the culture, the division lead if they beat the Texans a week.

[DK]

I don't know what it is. It's like to simple. To boil this down, I kind of think the Jaguars can't catch and Trevor Lawrence isn't accurate and that's kind of.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like the whole thing and the situational awareness. Lawrence has a weird. For someone who's played. We're coming up this is fifth season season. He's. He. He really doesn't have a sense of the field.

[DK]

No, it's just like he's in. He has like a Trevor Lawrence. I mean he has like a Justin Herbert esque arm. But the reason why Justin Herbert works when he throws those missiles is it's right in your lap. Lawrence throws like with the same speed but it's over here.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, he's not accurate and.

[DK]

And Brian Thomas is afraid of every ball and half these guys can't catch.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it's coming so fast.

[DK]

The, the I believe the Jaguars lead the league in drops this year and so it's just a penalty. It's a horrible combination of like Lawrence is super inaccurate and his receivers can't catch.

[Danny Heifetz]

So the again they lost 35 to 7. I was the. The two minute drill. The form. Well they got the ball four minutes and I think they thought there were two. It was the one of the weirder four minute drills I've ever seen at the end of the half. Like they. It was like they were trying really hard to get the Rams the ball back. It was bizarre.

[DK]

I generally believe in what Liam Cohen is doing and like you can see glimpses of it. I do think though, yeah, like if. If we're talking about can this guy win? Can Trevor Lawrence win two playoff games for the Jags? I think it's a shard. I don't think he can. Like, I don't think that's ever going to be. I agree.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, not ever again. We have never felt as bad about Lawrence as we have felt about Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold or Daniel Jones by a lot. So I'm ne. I'm not going to say never about anyone this talented.

[DK]

But he'll have to be on a new team then.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't know you. I am open to the idea that maybe he needs to be like rehabilitated like Al. And again, like Darnold went to the jets, they suck. Baker went to the Browns, they suck. Daniel Jones with the Giants, they suck. Trevor Lawrence went to the Jacks. At what point like how many teams.

[DK]

On the Steelers next year and I'll have to figure this out.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There you go. By the way, they probably will win more than seven games. They play the Raiders, Titans twice, the Jets, Chargers on their six string tackle and the Cardinals. So they've got. Yeah, they have win over Titans.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's. It's the games that they're gonna be tough is they play the Texans. They play the Colts twice.

[Danny Heifetz]

They get the Titans and weekends and the Broncos.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So I don't know. Maybe, you know, maybe they'll surprise us but.

[Danny Heifetz]

Intrusive thoughts. Craig, I want to start with you.

[DK]

I guess we could. I have two. I'll stick with Jacksonville first. I. I just think Travis Hunter is better than Brian Thomas and I just like, I don't. He should just be the number one wide receiver in Brian. I don't.

[Danny Heifetz]

Brian Thomas should play cornerback.

[DK]

Yeah. Maybe because he doesn't like when I watch the two of them play wide receiver. I' that guy's better.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[DK]

It's kind of as simple as that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[DK]

I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Thomas kind of looks like he's the cornerback trying to play receiver. It.

[DK]

It really does. He looks like a. Kind of like a random wide receiver to me now. And Travis Hunter looks like a freak.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my God. That's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's a good. I mean that's a good intrusive thought right there.

[DK]

I mean, Travis Hunter today also had like a huge day. Kind of had his coming out party. Brian Thomas got hurt later in the game. Travis Hunter did a lot of his damage with Brian Thomas on the field. 14 targets, eight catches, 100 yards, touchdown down. I don't know, I just think he's better. He's just play wide receiver.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The funny thing about, I mean, I don't disagree with you necessarily. I think.

[DK]

And he doesn't even practice wide receiver, right?

[Danny Heifetz]

He did.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He didn't play on defense in the first half and then he did play a little bit in the second half in this game. I think they're still like figuring out how to use him on both sides of the football. But also I would say like the corner. He probably should be better considering what.

[Danny Heifetz]

I don't even know if he played defense today, which makes sense because he.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think I saw that he played some in the second a half when.

[Danny Heifetz]

They were down 20. You know, it was a little late by then. It's like 21 nothing. I had intrusive thought today, okay. Cam Ward's hands are way too small to play quarterback and it'll never work.

[Carlos]

I.

[DK]

The, the. The worst defender against Cam Ward this year has been his own hands.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cam Ward keeps dropping the ball. Dropped the ball.

[DK]

He's done that three times this year.

[Danny Heifetz]

He did two straight weeks where Kenward just dropped the football just like straight up trying to throw a pass. Not raining night, just drop the ball, ball. And so I was like, how small are his hands again? I looked it up nine inches. Eighth percentile among quarterbacks. He's in the eighth percentile for hand size among quarterbacks.

[DK]

You know, we. Everybody talked about Kenny Picket. Nobody talked about Cam Ward's hands. Not once.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And nobody talks about Cam Ward.

[DK]

That's true too.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, I think the difference still aren't really that much. I feel like he's gotten a pass for how bad they are.

[DK]

He's going to be bad for like three straight years. I'm going to be like, no.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then we'll never think about him. And yeah. Kenny Pickett had little hand energy, I think was the problem. Kim Ward has big hand energy and.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What do you mean?

[Danny Heifetz]

But yeah, so that was my intrusive thought.

[Craig Horlbeck]

My other one, by the way, Kenny Pickett came in I think for one play today and just fumbled it.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Well, he might.

[Danny Heifetz]

He probably.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think his first play he fumbled. I don't. I think he might be. Maybe played more than one play. Get any first outs so that wasn't great.

[Danny Heifetz]

Great. I had another intrusive thought, and I'm like, this one's like me. I actually like an intrusive thought. Like, this is not how I believe. And, like, I don't believe this. I am not proud of that I thought this, but, like, it was just a thing I thought, okay. The Raiders defensive end Max Crosby got hurt today. And my actual first thought was like.

[DK]

That'S kind of his fault, because he. He never does.

[Danny Heifetz]

He plays every snap, 100% of the snaps performatively. I'm like, maybe don't do that. Like, maybe you wouldn't get hurt if you didn't, like, insist on playing literally every down.

[DK]

Try hard.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, he's. Yeah. Kind of like, I. You know what I mean?

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like, maybe there's a reason every other player doesn't do that.

[DK]

Yeah. Like, I mean, Anthony Richardson checked himself out at quarterback once because he was.

[Danny Heifetz]

Tired when Bijon was out in fourth and one was like, oh, Richardson does it once, but then Bijon's out.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Maybe follow Anthony Richardson's lead a little on this one.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was ahead of the curve, really. Anyway, any other intrusive thoughts, Craig?

[DK]

So you know those touch passes, like, Rashee Rice had one today, where it's like a little sweep kind of behind the offensive line, and Mahomes just flips it to him and he. Whatever. I don't think that should count as a passing touchdown.

[Danny Heifetz]

So this is the dirty secret to Mahomes. 50 touchdown pass. Season was five of them were like, touch bases.

[DK]

I don't think it should count.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I think it's a glorified handoff. Why do you not get a.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a jet sweep.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

It's a loophole.

[Danny Heifetz]

It is a loophole because the definition is the ball. Literally, if the ball travels forward, like, half an inch, that's a pass.

[DK]

Romo said on the broadcast today, he was like, I could have had 50 touchdowns if I could do that. And I was. And I was like, yeah, you're right. I mean, it's a smart play. It just shouldn't count as a passing touchdown. Cause it's not.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, I agree.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

I. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

But I also will take it Patrick Mahomes.

[Danny Heifetz]

Relatedly, number one fantasy quarterback Patrick Mahomes. I know we had another intrusive thought here. Carlos, I need you to come back in. Carlos said something today. Craig wasn't here yet, and I thought it was so fucking crazy that I need Carlos to explain it. So if. Just to set the stage here. So on YouTube TV. And if people don't have this, the Sunday ticket or anything, you might not know what we're talking about. But on YouTube TV, with the multiview, they have like these, like, enjoy these moments of Zen.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And they're all different commercial breaks. They just do, like, a bee will be going from flower to flower.

[DK]

It's like an ocean.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's like a dog. Or like, they're. They're pretty. I'm not gonna lie.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They're.

[Danny Heifetz]

They're pretty. They actually are Zen.

[DK]

It's like birds chirping in a field, right?

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's actually quite lovely.

[Danny Heifetz]

And Carlos chimes into this, says, I hate the fucking moment of Zen. Why do you hate the Zen, Carlos?

[DK]

Does it. Are. Are you forced to. To think your own thoughts?

[Danny Heifetz]

And.

[DK]

And that's. That's a terrifying proposition.

[Carlos]

It's been established on this podcast. I drive in silence sometimes. So, like, I'm fine with moments of s. Of silence and Zen. I'm just. When I'm watching a football game, I'm so used to the noise that the Zen, like, jars me out of it. And I'm like, what?

[Danny Heifetz]

So I'm like, looking at.

[Carlos]

I, like a commercial break is happening, and I'm, like, looking at my phone, and then all of a sudden, like, there's just silence and I'm just like. I look up, I'm like, what is going on? And then I have to change the channel.

[DK]

Carlos is too alpha. He's in football mode. His tea is so. Yeah, that when it goes to, like, birds chirping in a meadow, he's like, this is a football.

[Danny Heifetz]

You find this Zen jarring.

[Carlos]

It's just really annoying. Like, get rid of it, please.

[DK]

It's annoying.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Get rid of it.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's annoying. What do you mean? It's like, the only time these companies, like, these, like, these companies with tech and everything, it's the only time they've, like, they dominate our lives. They have every moment of time. The only time they've ever for one second been like, how about your mental health?

[DK]

It's like, how are you doing? Ocean coast crashing in and out. Not for you.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Blowing through the leaves.

[Carlos]

Look, I'm. I'm 30 years old for. For, like, 28 years of my life. I've been so used to having, like, commercials and, like, background noise, and then all of a sudden they're like, nah, never mind.

[Danny Heifetz]

See, this is brain rot. Like, this is. This is. Do you know when Apple did the YouTube album and, like, didn't occur to them that people would want to Delete it.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And so they didn't build it. Like, I don't think anyone at YouTube TV was like, what if people actually hate this and want more commercials?

[DK]

But I don't. What's unique about Carlos is that he drives in silence, which doesn't make any. He also, it means that, like, he gets in football mode and he's like, I need. I need stimulation for eight straight hours.

[Danny Heifetz]

Also, is it funny our podcast producer doesn't listen to podcasts while he drives?

[DK]

I do that at work. I don't need to take that home with me, dude.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Maybe I don't need more mouth sound.

[DK]

Maybe I'm becoming a boomer. But I often times will mute the game the second it goes to commercial because I think there's so.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, the commercials, they. They make them so much louder.

[DK]

That lie actually was just changed.

[Danny Heifetz]

Really?

[DK]

Yeah. You can no longer do that. Commercials cannot be louder than the. Whatever the broadcast you're watching.

[Danny Heifetz]

Huh?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Sweet.

[DK]

Yeah, because that was the thing. They were like, well, ESPN way louder.

[Danny Heifetz]

That went big this week with hockey, where ESPN is kind of like, you saw the espn, They're. They're kind of taking you off live to show you more commercials as people. This. People, like, noticed, which also bad plan. You thought people wouldn't notice this, but.

[DK]

Like, it's supposed to be like a two minute commercial break slot. They would run like two minutes and ten seconds of commercial over time.

[Danny Heifetz]

You're like three minutes behind. 90. 90 seconds. And then the only like three or.

[DK]

Four minutes, your buddy texts you like, what a collapse. And you're like, what, dude?

[Danny Heifetz]

People are getting also key. Like, no one thought like four weeks ahead of, like, when you implement this, people are getting ESPN bet bets, cashing or losing while the game is not over. And they're like, that's weird. While watching Espin. I'm like, I don't know what the plan was there.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, Carla, I. I think hating the moment as end is the funniest thing. Thing that's funnier than when Carlos.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's a great zag.

[DK]

It is. Carlos would hate a house on the beach.

[Danny Heifetz]

Top of the Guinness factory. Carlos is like, I don't get this Guinness thing.

[DK]

The idea of, like sitting by a river with a Guinness in his hand is a nightmare to Carlos.

[Danny Heifetz]

He's too alpha. He's too alpha.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He was drinking Moscow Mules at the Guinness Fact. Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

He was like, do you think they have a Moscow Mule? And I was like, I don't, man. I was like, no, I don't think I'm not. I'm not asking them. You asked them. Play of the day. I mean, honestly, it was the show. Hani. Everything for Friday, but if we just do Sunday, I.

[DK]

The.

[Danny Heifetz]

The Mahomes. This never works.

[DK]

That's the most memorable play of the year.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's certainly the one that we will remember. Mon. I. I want to just note, though, this never worked.

[DK]

Guess this play's over.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He, like, elbows his buddy get a lot of this.

[Danny Heifetz]

The other play I wanted.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The other.

[Danny Heifetz]

Players want to note was that the bike. This didn't count because it was a false start. But I really wanted to see this happen was the Vikings tried to stop the tush push today by having a player literally, like, lay down in front of the center. Like, they literally. I mean, they literally just, like, bent over. Like, they actually just had a guy get on all fours. Like, you know when people would tabletop people, like, like, recess or whatever?

[DK]

Like, that was a crazy trend.

[Danny Heifetz]

That was horrible. I hated that.

[DK]

Remember, tabletop?

[Craig Horlbeck]

You push.

[Danny Heifetz]

You push.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You over.

[Danny Heifetz]

I hated that.

[DK]

That was, like, a real moment in high.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, we did that in our, like, elementary school.

[Danny Heifetz]

Now we're old enough that you could hit your head and, like, die.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And we're not doing that.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, I. Yeah, I hated tabletopping. That was chaotic. That was too far for me.

[DK]

Yeah. Way too dangerous.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's way too easy to fall down.

[Danny Heifetz]

Falling.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Kind of crazy.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, when you try, like, you think.

[DK]

Like, I never supported tabletop. I really get it. It always felt wrong. It's like the difference between, like, taping someone's house and then, like, egging someone's house.

[Danny Heifetz]

There's a middle ground here.

[DK]

Oh, it's totally.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What's your position on paper? Pantsing.

[Carlos]

Oh.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I thought pantsing was too far.

[DK]

It is too far.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because sometimes the underwear.

[Danny Heifetz]

You're playing with fire. Yeah. You're playing fire on, like, the confidence that the underwear won't come down. Yeah.

[Carlos]

Yeah.

[DK]

Maybe if you're just like.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Then there's just a dick.

[DK]

If you're, like, with your. If you're, like, with your friends with your boys or something. If it's, like, in the middle of.

[Craig Horlbeck]

PE and there's, like, you can't do girls in the gym. Yeah.

[DK]

That. That ruined your. Your life.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I still distinctly, like, remember my buddy at basketball practice getting pants, and there was, like, the girls basketball team was, like, practicing in the court next to us, and he was just like. I don't. He was so upset about it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah.

[DK]

Just like, that's, like.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's Kind of a dick thing to do.

[Danny Heifetz]

Speaking of a dick thing to do, Craig said before the show that there was no chance that I would drink an entire bottle of water during the show.

[DK]

I said there was no chance you would drink two. Okay, we're almost. We're. We're wrapping up here. And now you're clearly trying to do it to make a point.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sorry.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Should we talk about pantsing more?

[Danny Heifetz]

I just can't believe. Yeah, well, table.

[DK]

Table topping's too far. Remember Five Starring?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah, I got. Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What's five Starring?

[DK]

You just slap somebody really hard in the back so it makes the outline of your hand.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Our thing in high school was we would go up to people behind them and just clap their shoulders really hard.

[Carlos]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

You still do that?

[DK]

Oh, I. Dude, I hate that.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Not at the level I was doing it in high school.

[DK]

The real.

[Craig Horlbeck]

We would. People would be like, oh, God.

[DK]

Like, the real trick is you get somebody, you get go, hey, I bet you can't touch that sign. And then they'll go, yeah, and then they get ready to jump, and then you, like, stomp down on their shoulders. It's awful. I hate it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Email us at ringer fantasy football gmail.com if you have, like. I don't even know what to call this, but just like, I don't know other dumb. You do, like, tabletop pranks or whatever. Just, like, email us at Ringer Fantasy football gmail.com. i want to hear these stories and just other or weird ones or just, like, good stories about it. That's really funny, Pants. Yeah, I'm sure there's good dead. Oh, yeah.

[DK]

Charlie Horse.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Deadly. Just punch someone in the thigh.

[DK]

You go knee to the quad.

[Danny Heifetz]

There's a lot of, like, violence it on the playground that, like, doesn't actually get discussed.

[DK]

Yeah, dead arms, you know?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, yeah, the dead arm thing. That was the worst.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, well, nois.

[DK]

No, I did not experience noogies. That was not a part of my situation. I feel like noogies are, like, in the 80s.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, is like something you get from your uncle. In the 80s.

[Danny Heifetz]

I had one. One of my brother's friends did it, but not my. Honestly, my. The angriest I was was just one of my brother's friends once, just, like, for no reason. Just I was sleeping and they had people over and just. I don't know why there was cheesecake, but he just took a slice of cheesecake and just smashed it on my face while I was sleeping. I was like, what the.

[Craig Horlbeck]

You would think you wouldn't go and do that to Craig right? At like.

[Danny Heifetz]

Well, we had to get up. We had to get up. I wouldn't shove cake at his face.

[DK]

You just shoved your face in my face. And your. Your. What was it like? Your dirty clothes.

[Danny Heifetz]

That was a shirt.

[DK]

Is the of your shirt break.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no, they were different.

[DK]

It woke me up.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, no, I woke you up in my face. But the shirt.

[DK]

I just.

[Danny Heifetz]

You were standing up.

[DK]

No, I thought I was closing my eyes, like laying down on the bed.

[Danny Heifetz]

Trying to get two separate things.

[DK]

Whatever.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I shouldn't have brought it up.

[DK]

In our giant room that had like six beds in it and it was just one big studio apartment.

[Danny Heifetz]

Anyway, worst play of the day. We. We somehow didn't mention the video Steelers. The Broderick Jones. The Steelers tackle. Tackle. After Aaron Rodgers threw an incredible touchdown. Roger Jones tackled Aaron Rodgers like, enjoy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He was like, oh, my God. He came up and clapped him on the shoulders.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And then tackled him. And Rogers was like, what the.

[DK]

It's like Lenny petting the. The bunny. Like. Like he meant. He meant well in that moment, but, you know, he didn't know his own strength.

[Danny Heifetz]

Rogers got up.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Rogers got up and pushed him and was like, what the.

[DK]

I mean, he's 41 years old. Roger Jones with 350 pounds.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

Can't do that.

[Carlos]

Oh, my God.

[DK]

He also had a crucial penalty. Penalty.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's like I don't even. Like you.

[DK]

Like you're already on my shit list. The rest of them are all right. Zach. I like. Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

The other worst place of the day. I can't. I will never get over. Steelers not covering Jamar chase on his 23rd target of the game. That was just. That was an old timer. I will. I do just have to shout out. After Tua got benched or whatever. They took him out. Quinn Ewers came in. Who has randomly made the backup today instead is equal Wilson Quinn yours threw. I think it was the through to the most covered player I'd ever seen. I think there were five Browns guys who could have like, made a play. I think it was the worst. I don't think it's going to. I don't know if you're going to find it or whatever.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It didn't get picked. It was almost picked.

[Danny Heifetz]

There were too many people there to pick it. Like they were. It was like one of those things.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Where it was like it was straight to him. It was so such a good pass to the defender. He dropped it.

[Danny Heifetz]

It was like piranhas. Like there were so Many, like, they couldn't. No one got a clean shot on it because it was just like. I also also. Can't we have more. Dropping the ball. The Bear center holding onto the ball in fourth down. Like, he, like, did a full start, but he handed to Caleb and he took it back as he realized he was wrong. And, like, just with, like, the kid, like, I've never seen it happen.

[DK]

He's like, can we restart?

[Danny Heifetz]

Tried to grab it. The center, like, took it back.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Just kidding.

[Danny Heifetz]

Try to reset. Like, that was bad. But I also just want to shout out Tron Diggs getting concussed in his own home on Thursday night and ruled out for Sunday.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And what happened there?

[Danny Heifetz]

We have no idea. I. I actually wouldn't be shocked if the Cowboys don't know either, because he probably. I also probably never tell anyone that.

[DK]

That's probably brutal. Got to have that sticky mat down in the shower.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah. Yeah. So I think those are worse than the one team missed two extra points today. But that probably doesn't matter.

[DK]

Dk, what age do you think you need the bar to get out of the tub?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, pretty old.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, when you can't really walk.

[DK]

Yeah, I really, like. I feel like Flaco needs one.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He's getting close. Yeah.

[DK]

Like MLB catchers, maybe. It's tough.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Either the knees go.

[DK]

Yeah, I was. Were we on this pod where I was like, they should. We should give cat. They should have a stool to sit on. Catchers.

[Danny Heifetz]

They should have a stool. Like, what are we doing?

[Craig Horlbeck]

A little.

[Danny Heifetz]

They should get to.

[DK]

Well, they already build the pads in that. You can basically, like, sit on the pads at that point.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Give them a stool.

[Danny Heifetz]

Why don't they get to sit? Who cares? Who cares if they sit? That's a good point.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because they gotta move around and give.

[DK]

Them the option of a stool if they want.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's a good.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The p. The pitches are coming in incredibly fast.

[Danny Heifetz]

Why can't the ump sit? Why can't the umpire sit?

[Craig Horlbeck]

You have to have the mobility to block the wall.

[DK]

Because it would have to be such a high jump chair. It would be weird because he has to be above the cat.

[Danny Heifetz]

You're getting away, I guess.

[DK]

Yeah. And again, it'd be awkward. He'd be like a.

[Danny Heifetz]

Like a really tall tennis to get the big ones.

[DK]

Craig. They've been doing this.

[Craig Horlbeck]

They've been. They've been playing the sport for.

[DK]

And they've made a lot of changes. And they've made a lot of changes.

[Danny Heifetz]

We're all kind of bandwagon baseball Fans, like, I, you know, I parachute into the playoffs and I love playoff baseball, but I'm not watching, like, full baseball games during the summer. Like nine innings in a row. Like, I probably watched like five.

[DK]

I actually think if I was watching a lot of A's games, I would want my friends to tell me to stop. Yeah, that's, like, not healthy.

[Danny Heifetz]

But the Yankees sitting down on television and watching the entire game, first to ninth inning, like, with my full attention, probably like five times this year. They're probably all red sex games. But, like, parachuting in. It is always so funny now that we're going to the robot umps eventually, that most of baseball catching is tricking the ump. Like, it's like the entire premise is framing the lying. And now that we have that, like, zone and it's going to just be. Be. It is incredible now that the zone's there to watch a ball and they just catch it and move it, like, slay to hand. And they just so good at it, too.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's just funny that that was like. It's like the entire point. It's. It's tricking the umpire of every play.

[DK]

And yet I still don't want robots. No, I like human.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Interesting.

[DK]

Okay, slippery slope, Daniel. What's next?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Bunch of clankers playing.

[DK]

Clankers playing quarterback.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

Clanker umps.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There's not going to be umps back there anymore.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, it's performative. It's. It's. It's the umps.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because are they going to still ring.

[DK]

People up and be like, the queen?

[Danny Heifetz]

Exactly, yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Because, like, part of the. Part of half of the fun in baseball. Half. Exactly. Half of the fun in baseball is the way that umps ring people. Like throwing one hand up.

[DK]

It's so like Leslie Nielsen and Naked Gun.

[Danny Heifetz]

So good.

[DK]

Also, I would say half the fun of baseball is being fucking pissed at the. The ump.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, I know.

[DK]

Who they going to be mad yelling, come on, boys. Like, half the point. Half the.

[Carlos]

Everybody.

[DK]

Baseball's boring.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's past three. The generations yelling at blue, Dude.

[Danny Heifetz]

Jackie's.

[DK]

You think that was a ball? Get off your knees, Blue. You're blowing the game.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's the best. We go to a baseball game. Jackie's favorite thing to do is like, who's paying you?

[DK]

Yeah, it's like the best part.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Skippy the other day asked me. She goes, do they always wear blazers? I was like, I mean, not all of them, but yeah.

[DK]

That's a great voice.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The UN are out there. In blazers?

[DK]

Well, because NBA and NFL refs are in the, in the black and white stripes. Why not? The ups.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I was like, they all don't. They all. They all don't. Sorry. They don't. All of them don't wear blazers.

[DK]

Are they always business casual.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cocktail attire.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Mascot afterwards? I guess, yeah. It's really funny. I mean, every. Like baseball. That's what's great about traditional. It's like, goes back to like 150 years or whatever.

[DK]

Whatever it is, they play in pants, the players.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

You know what I mean?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, it's also funny that the managers are wearing the uniforms, which is like so great.

[DK]

Imagine Steve Kerr in a warrior jersey.

[Danny Heifetz]

Watching like Charlie Manuel back in the day. Like just like wearing the jersey with the pot belly.

[DK]

It's like, let's get Mike McDaniel in a football jersey out there.

[Danny Heifetz]

Imagine we put Andy Reid in a.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Jersey like the big ass, like, shoulder pads, helmet on.

[Danny Heifetz]

That would be. Mike McDaniel. Never would have been hired if they made him wear a jersey. He looked like Travion Henry Henderson. Oh, my God.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Blazers.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think. Yeah. Burn book. This is easy. Justin Fields. Justin Fields is super burned.

[DK]

And it's, it's, it's partly because he's had three games of 25 or more and then three games of five or less. And now he's like, boy, you gonna call me or not? I don't know.

[Danny Heifetz]

You know what's funny is because he could like get named the starter and have an incredible day next week. But also if he gets benched, you should probably cut him, right? Even a one quarterback league, like, you probably got to cut him.

[DK]

He's one of the few quarterbacks that can legitimately put up 25 points easily or get benched. Right?

[Danny Heifetz]

I know it's weird.

[DK]

Any given week you don't have to.

[Danny Heifetz]

Cut them, but like, you can. It's weird. So Burn Book is week one, Jalen Waddle. Week two, Mark Andrews. Week three, Isa Pacheco. Week four, Calvin Ridley. Week five, Trivian Henderson. We really should burn him every week. Week six is Tony Pollard, and week seven is Justin Fields.

[DK]

I gotta say, this is aging quite nicely. This entire list is kind of dog. Isaiah Pacheco has been okay, I guess.

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, I mean, he had a touchdown today, but he's.

[Danny Heifetz]

No, he's. But he's. There's no ceiling, like literally like the Chiefs getting 70, 80 rushing yards. Still feels like it's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Tony Pollard has gotten exactly nine points in every single game.

[DK]

Yeah, he's miserable to deal with can't take him.

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[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, let's break bread. Tell us what's going on here, Danny.

[DK]

So the Danny's are in town. I have baked for them once before. I sent them banana bread.

[Danny Heifetz]

You mailed it to them in the mail?

[DK]

I mailed it to them, yeah. To Seattle and D.C. but over the last three days, I was kind of home all weekend. And when I'm not gonna go anywhere for a little bit, sometimes I bake bread. This is my third attempt at sourdough bread.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And I gotta be honest this.

[DK]

I thought I did a really good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Job taking up 60% of your energy.

[DK]

Yeah, I think this was my best.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Look at that.

[Danny Heifetz]

Okay, okay, wait, hold on. So this is okay.

[DK]

And I bought some French butter.

[Danny Heifetz]

I will say, I like your crumb structure.

[DK]

Thank you.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think it's impressive. I think you got a good rise. I think that it's well proved. I. You know, obviously now it just sounds like you're talking too much color in the bottom. But that's okay. I mean, live and learn. I think the flower, like, good. The score. It's a very nice score.

[DK]

Thank you.

[Danny Heifetz]

And then, yeah, just your bubbles, your aeration. Like, I think that this is a good, healthy starter. Like, this is good.

[DK]

Thank You.

[Danny Heifetz]

I like this.

[DK]

I put a lot of effort into it. I love making bread.

[Danny Heifetz]

Hell yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I want to eat it.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, let's look at.

[DK]

Yeah, we should just rip it with our hands.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, do it. Break bread.

[Danny Heifetz]

Hell yeah. Oh, you got French butter. Wait, let me see if I have lactate. Oh, I doctor you just carry a.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Puck around at all times. Yeah, I do.

[Danny Heifetz]

I have it on me.

[DK]

So go ahead and just, like, rip lactate.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sponsor me. If anyone from lactate is listening, I swear to God, I will do anything. You should hit up.

[DK]

Hit up our sales team.

[Danny Heifetz]

I need. Dude. If anyone from our sales team is listening, please contact lactate. I literally had it on me.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Do you ever. Did you ever think that maybe eating bread on a podcast wasn't, like, the best content?

[Danny Heifetz]

Also, how do we eat this without mouse?

[DK]

So deep into this show that I was like, I. I want to give it to you on. On the pod.

[Danny Heifetz]

So wait, how do we eat this without the mouse house being on the show?

[DK]

Not crunchy, luckily, so that's not going to be.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, wait, Sh. Buy. Sorry, I was taking my lactate.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Grab a rip.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, this is sick. I want to take a bite without the butter first. So excited. Literally sampling breaking bread.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I love the way your bread smells.

[DK]

I love your sweaty balls.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, this is really good. Thank you.

[DK]

I begged you this morning.

[Craig Horlbeck]

It's.

[DK]

There's a little bit of rye flour. Flour in it, so I had a little bit of more tang kind of. Wow. I don't know why, but I genuinely think it's incredible that this is just flour, water, and salt.

[Danny Heifetz]

Dude.

[DK]

It's amazing, you know, over like, three days.

[Craig Horlbeck]

The second bite was way better. Incredible.

[Danny Heifetz]

I'm very.

[DK]

Hey, thank you.

[Danny Heifetz]

Handshake.

[DK]

Paul Hollywood.

[Danny Heifetz]

This was Paul. Paul Hollywood, baby. I. This is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I'll give you a high five.

[DK]

Yeah. The DK high five. I think there's no better food than bread and butter. High quality bread. High quality butter is the best.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Thank you. You. I've been saying that for years.

[Danny Heifetz]

Did we ever tell this story in the show?

[DK]

I don't know if we did.

[Danny Heifetz]

Literally.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, we did.

[Danny Heifetz]

I think so. Dk, like, once was.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Got hyphens and I got in a fight because I really love bread as side dis.

[Danny Heifetz]

Draft. And you took bread. And you took bread and butter first in a side dish draft.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

And like, over, like, French fries.

[DK]

You know what, though? Like, this is better than French fries.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I mean, this is.

[Danny Heifetz]

Yeah, but this isn't a side. This is. I mean, we're just you know, I'm not bringing up. Literally the closest our podcast ever came to, like, ending was, like, our argument over bread and butter. Craig, we actually were. Craig just wasn't there. You came in like, like, challenge Gambito in the meme with the pizzas. Community on fire is like, oh, my God. He's like, oh, my God. Like, we were just on the verge of breaking up.

[DK]

All right, should we get out of here?

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh, yeah, right.

[DK]

Okay.

[Danny Heifetz]

Sorry. I was overwhelmed. This is great.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Really good, Brad.

[DK]

Thank you.

[Danny Heifetz]

Thank you, Greg, for making us bread. That was really nice of you. That was really kind. Thank you, dk. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronic. Thank you, Austin. Thank you. Literally everybody who's helping us with the show this week. We're all week. You know, we are here all week doing a bunch of shows in person, so it'll be really fun. It's core week, so, like, everyone from the ringer is here. It's going to be awesome. Shout out to my bread. Yeah, shout out to your bread. That was awesome. Awesome.

[DK]

I'm so proud of it.

[Danny Heifetz]

It's.

[DK]

It's the best.

[Danny Heifetz]

You made that. You made that.

[DK]

I don't have. I don't have a child.

[Craig Horlbeck]

What a tremendous looking loaf you have there.

[DK]

I don't have a child, but I have a loaf.

[Danny Heifetz]

Thank you to everyone who email. Email us at ringer fancy football gmail.com. we want trivia for waivers y fantasy court for this week. Anything you argument in your group chat. We want fantasy courts and email us the weird. I like what Craig put pranks. Like, just stories about them or weird ones you have are just like, mostly want good stories about those things. I'm sure they're just good ones. Email us those. Yeah. Thank you, Lord, Lord, thank you.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, yeah, yes.

[DK]

Okay.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Kirk, you just said yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny Heifetz]

So when you say that, I was.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Like, oh, got one.

[DK]

What's their big song?

[Craig Horlbeck]

I always Heads roll. Heads will roll. Gold lion, I think it was like, gold lion's going to tell you what is.

[DK]

Or something like that is the heads will roll. There's a remix of that that's really popular.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Right?

[DK]

That's like what's in Project X.

[Danny Heifetz]

That sounds right off.

[DK]

Off with your head. It's like, dun, dun, dun, dun.

[Danny Heifetz]

I always say in my head, like the Bruno Mars song where he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, I think that's them, but it's not, obviously.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Oh, I know what you're talking about.

[Danny Heifetz]

But I just.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yep.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's when I read their name I just hear Bruno Mars Hedd Roll a.

[DK]

Track remix is honestly one of the most iconic, like house songs of kind of like our high school generation when that stuff was really big. Oh my God. Song was iconic.

[Danny Heifetz]

Can we play? How does this work? Can better? Is it fine? This is like, I could run a.

[DK]

Five minute mile to this song. Oh, my God. Yeah. When this comes in in Project X, you're just like, you want a shadow box. Yeah, man. That's good.

[Danny Heifetz]

Oh my God.

[DK]

Good one. That's. We've never done the A. I think.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I saw the aas at a. Maybe it was Warp tour or something. I. I saw him at some festival at the Gorge. Yeah, it was great.

[DK]

Nice.

[Danny Heifetz]

That's cool.

[DK]

What's the. Wait, where's the Gorge?

[Craig Horlbeck]

The Gorge is in George Washington. I think it's George or near there.

[DK]

It's in George Washington. It's.

[Craig Horlbeck]

There's a big. It's a. I've showed you guys pictures of this. It's like a music venue that's like on the cliffside and it overlooks a giant like gorge River.

[Danny Heifetz]

Gorge is in George Washington.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I believe it's George Washington near George.

[Carlos]

George.

[Danny Heifetz]

What is.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, it's called the Gorge. That's the name of the venue.

[DK]

Did you see that movie on Apple, the Gorge?

[Craig Horlbeck]

No, but I did watch the previous.

[DK]

Miles Teller and on you, Taylor Joy.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, didn't see it. Cool. Good story.

[DK]

Yeah, didn't quite crack my watch list.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, there's a lot of content.

[DK]

It's a lot out there. It's tough these days, you know, Streaming straight to streaming movies.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah, yeah, it's hard. But anyway, yeah, this place is. It's a cool. It's a cool music venue. I feel like we've had this conversation. Every time we have a conversation, I'm like, this sounds familiar.

[DK]

You know what movie I do love though, upon second rewatch? Happy Gilmore 2.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Totally. I don't know.

[DK]

I don't know what it is, but.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Incredible taste in movies.

[DK]

Upon rewatch. Yeah, there was a lot there.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Buttering his bread.

[Danny Heifetz]

He knows where his bread is buttered.

[Craig Horlbeck]

He does.

[Danny Heifetz]

All this is a metaphor.

[DK]

Did I say, you know, where we went? You know. Wrong.

[Danny Heifetz]

We're still going.

[DK]

You know where we went the other day? Remember when you guys were here last time and we went and got like pastries at the Brentwood Country Mart?

[Craig Horlbeck]

Yeah.

[DK]

I saw Sandler there yesterday. I was standing next to.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Are you serious?

[DK]

How did you not.

[Danny Heifetz]

We were together all day. How did you not bring this a fuck, man. You didn't say anything.

[Craig Horlbeck]

I assume you say, hey, Sandman, I.

[DK]

Love Jabby Gilmore shooter.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Hey Happy, can I have one of those?

[DK]

I have three every day just to keep me strong. We I slander. I I like literally love Adam Sandler. I love him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

So you know you will not make this putt.

[DK]

But yeah, I walked right by him.

[Craig Horlbeck]

That's awesome.

[DK]

He was waiting to sit down to eat.

[Danny Heifetz]

Was he wearing that like baggy ass gym pants he always wears?

[DK]

Yeah, like a, like a, like a Hawaiian shirt with a, like a hoodie over it, long bash shorts, like running shoes.

[Craig Horlbeck]

Just the he is who he is.

[DK]

Yeah.

[Craig Horlbeck]

And I respect that.

[Danny Heifetz]

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