Week 8 Waivers, Catcher Sploots, and Craig’s Mom Said He’s Sweaty

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show – Week 8 Waivers, Catcher Sploots, and Craig’s Mom Said He’s Sweaty

Host(s): Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck
Date: October 21, 2025

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Episode Overview

This lively episode finds Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck in-person in Los Angeles, digging into the “brutal” Week 8 NFL waiver wire landscape with six teams on bye. They laugh about fantasy stress, parents’ texts, the evolution of sports (from "catcher sploots" to hockey goalies), oddball trivia, and the primal mechanics of dumb games with friends. Lighthearted and self-deprecating, their camaraderie shines as they help listeners survive byepocalypse, share memorable emails, critique snack packaging, and riff on sports and life.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Week 8 Waivers: Byepocalypse Edition

(02:17–15:00)

• Six Teams on Bye: Lions, Raiders, Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks, and Jaguars—plus key injuries. The waiver pool is thin and ugly.

• Running Backs:

  • Top Options:
    • Tyler Allgeier (Falcons): (03:27–07:13)
      • Preferred for upside and matchup (vs. Dolphins).
      • "Algier has three touchdowns in six games...he’s like Derrick Henry, when the Ravens win, Derrick Henry is a good game. It’s similar with Tyler Allgeier, smaller scale." – Danny Kelly (05:10)
      • Roster % is ~40%, but check your league.
      • If Bijan gets hurt, Allgeier is “a top-8 RB weekly. The key is ‘if’.”
    • Kyle Manungai (Bears):
      • Increasing usage, out-snapping DeAndre Swift on third downs, rookie trending up.
      • “If DeAndre Swift aggravates his leg, Manungai could be a startable back as soon as this week.” – Danny Heifetz (06:26)
  • Tier Tiers: Allgeier and Manungai top; then it falls off.
  • Lower Tier Flyers: Bam Knight (Cardinals, but on bye), Rashard Smith (Chiefs, 19 touches last week, Kareem Hunt banged up), Isaiah Davis (Jets, dart throw), Bae’Shawn Tootin (Jaguars, not involved yet, also on bye).

• "Everyone else sucks. I can't stress enough." – Danny Heifetz (07:13)

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2. Wide Receiver Waiver Targets

(15:00–20:50)

• “Receivers: Better Off Than RBs This Week”
• Top Picks:
  • Darnell Mooney (Falcons): Reliable #2 in his offense, saw 68 yards on Monday.
    • “He's the best number two receiver on waivers. Mooney is good; he’s had a game with 11 targets.” – Craig (15:23)
  • Kayshawn Booty (Patriots): Bet on talent; strong connection with Drake May, deep targets.
    • “That’s Booty's role and specialty in the offense.” – Kelly (16:55)
  • Troy Franklin (Broncos): High-volume week (10 targets), faces a porous Cowboys defense.
  • Alec Pierce (Colts): 10 targets, 5/98 last week, deep threat upside.
  • Marvin Mims (Broncos): Pure upside, could get lucky in bye-heavy week.
• “Any of [Mooney, Booty, Franklin, Pierce, or Mims] could deliver for you.” – Heifetz (20:17)
• Waiver wire team name tip: “Booty Call. There’s a lot of good names!” – Group (17:23)

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3. Tight End Waivers

(31:20–37:00)

• Arande Gadsden (Chargers): 7/164/1 last week, back-to-back 8+ targets.
  • “There are a lot of rookies that don’t do that for two months at a time.” – Heifetz (31:37)
  • “He looks extremely athletic and explosive—like a wide receiver.” – Kelly (31:54)
• Deeper options, if Gadsden’s gone:
  • Kate Otten (Buccaneers): If injuries persist.
  • Theo Johnson (Giants): 7+ targets, red zone looks.
  • Isaiah Likely (Ravens): Only if Lamar plays and Andrews is out.
  • Mason Taylor (Jets): Only if Tyrod Taylor starts.

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4. QB and DST Streaming

(37:34–39:00)

• Quarterbacks:

  • Jackson Dart (Giants): Rushing upside, if available, faces weak GB D.
  • Aaron Rodgers: Revenge game against GB.
  • Marcus Mariota (Washington): Likely starter with Daniels’ hammy; can run; “could easily be top-5 fantasy QB this week.”
  • Joe Flacco (Bengals): Pure desperation, but has Chase and Higgins.
  • Michael Penix (vs. Miami): Miami D is bad; could be a shootout.

• Defenses:

  • Houston Texans: “Just check if they were dropped—they’re really good.” (38:13)
  • Falcons vs. Miami: “Falcons D is super available…could ride them all year.”
  • Tampa Bay vs. Saints: Saints O shaky, TB strong front.
  • Niners, Bills: Deeper streamers.

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5. Trivia & Comedy Interludes

Pumpkin Weights, WWE "The Streak," and Solar Eclipses

(08:45; 20:45; 32:56)

• Pumpkin Trivia (08:45):
  • Largest U.S. pumpkin in 2024 weighed 2,741.5 pounds! (“No one has any gauge how heavy things are.” – Heifetz)
• Wrestling: Undertaker's WrestleMania Streak (20:45):
  • 21–0 over 23 years (1991–2014). “Imagine if Tom Brady won the Super Bowl every year.” (“That’s like too many.” – Horlbeck)
• Solar Eclipses (32:56):
  • There will be 248 total solar eclipses on Earth in the 30th century. (“I guess it’s the whole world, not just Los Angeles. Didn’t think about that.” – Heifetz)

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6. Listener Emails & Life/Parent Stories

Craig’s Mom’s Sweaty Concern

(40:54–42:22)

• Craig shares a text: “Dad and I just watched a new fantasy clip. Why do you look so sweaty? Are you feeling okay? Was it hot in the office?”
• “As both your parents, dad and I were wondering if maybe you were getting sick.”
• Craig’s reaction: “Jesus, Mom, what kind of thing is that to say?”
• Group laughs about blunt boomer texts and text etiquette.

Scam Texts, AI, and Parental Protection

(43:04–47:02)

• “Most of my texts to my parents now are just screenshotting every scam text I get and sending it to them.” – Heifetz
• Discussion about spoofing, scam sophistication, AI-generated calls: “These scams are getting good. You need a safe word with your parents.” – Horlbeck

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7. Sports Evolution: “Catcher Sploots” & Hockey Goalies

(51:00–58:44)

• Catcher Sploots (Emails from Bob):
  • Splooting = modern technique where catchers set up on one knee, leg out, instead of crouching (only ¼ used it in 2020, now 96% in 2025).
  • “They didn’t do it for 120 years—thought it made you look like a bitch! It’s just, like, the granny shot.” – Heifetz
  • It’s all about pitch framing, wear-and-tear, and tradition finally breaking.
• Hockey Goalies:
  • Before 1986, goalies stood up, Patrick Roy changed the game by going down in the butterfly to cover the five-hole.
  • “How did no one figure this out for decades?” – Group

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8. Stupid Friend Games & Male Instincts

(59:13–64:41)

• Listener stories and hosts’ own confessions:
  • Nut shots, cup wearing, games with thrown or bounced items, months wasted on “slide” competitions, basement shuffleboard instead of the beach.
  • “Women could be in this house 10,000 years and would never invent the electrolyte slide.” – Group (quoting a friend)
  • Request for emailed stories: “Send us emails about the dumb shit you turned into a beloved game in your friend group.”

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9. Snack Review: White Fudge Covered Oreos

(64:27–67:28)

• Carlos brings the crew his favorite flavor: “Carlos brought his favorite color flavor: Oreo white fudge covered.”
• “Oreo might be my favorite flavor on the planet... If an Oreo box is in my house, it’ll be gone in 24 hours.” – Group
• “The inventor of the resealable Oreo package was a pioneer.” – (66:24)
• Score: 8.8/10

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10. Pop Culture & Shania Twain Tangent

(68:30–73:52)

• Shout outs to Shania Twain’s “Man! I Feel Like a Woman,” grammar in song titles, “That Don’t Impress Me Much” lyric rankings, and a side-trip through Elvis’s car, Batmobiles, and the possibility of ever getting Shania on the show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “No one has any gauge to know how heavy things are. That’s not a thing.”
  — Danny Heifetz, on pumpkin trivia (11:21)

• “Everyone else sucks. I can't stress enough.”
  — Danny Heifetz on the Week 8 RB waiver pool (07:13)

• “Algier has three touchdowns in six games...he’s like Derrick Henry, when the Ravens win, Derrick Henry is a good game.”
  — Danny Kelly (05:10)

• “The goal is to trick the ump on every play...it took baseball 120 years to stop crouching!”
  — Danny Heifetz/Group, on catcher ‘sploots’ (54:45)

• “Dad and I just watched a new fantasy clip. Why do you look so sweaty?”
  — Craig’s Mom via text (41:09)

• “If women lived in this house for 10,000 years, they would never invent the electrolyte slide... because they’re smarter than us.”
  — Group recounting dumb male games (63:31)

• “That Don’t Impress Me Much – So, you’re Brad Pitt? That doesn’t impress me. I think it does impress me.”
  — Group riffing on Shania Twain lyrics (71:16)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Waiver RBs deep-dive: 03:06 – 13:44
• Waiver WRs: 15:00 – 20:50
• Tight End Talk: 31:20 – 37:00
• QBs & Defenses: 37:34 – 39:00
• Pumpkin trivia: 08:45
• WWE “Streak” trivia: 20:45
• Solar eclipse trivia: 32:56
• Catcher Sploots & Sports Evolution: 51:00 – 58:44
• Craig’s “Sweaty” Mom Text: 40:54 – 42:22
• Scam Texts & Protection: 43:04 – 47:02
• Dumb Friend Games: 59:13 – 64:41
• Oreo Snack Review: 64:27 – 67:28
• Shania Twain tangent: 68:30 – 73:52

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Email and Content Requests

• Fantasy Court Cases, Trivia, Email Stories to: [e-mail]
• Special requests: Soccer/football trivia, scam stories, the dumbest games your friend group invented

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Tone and Style

The trio’s interplay is breezy, irreverent, and honest—quick to call out how brutal the waiver pool is, laugh at their own trivia ignorance, or take detours into family texts and childhood friend games. They celebrate dumb fun, quirky sports evolution, and the joy of snacks, while keeping fantasy advice actionable and real for managers scraping the wire this week.

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If you missed the show, this summary should prepare you with waiver must-adds, a snack rec, a solid weird trivia haul, and a reminder to check in on your friends (and your parents) during byepocalypse.

Transcript

[A]

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[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's the jamming on the shoulders.

[B]

I do this virtually, too. I put my hand on two.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

Oh, did you really?

[B]

Yeah, I just grabbed. I imagine you're there.

[A]

We're gonna go through waivers for entering week eight. Not gonna lie, they suck. It's pretty brutal. Good luck. Six teams on by.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Great timing at the end. We're going to lots of stuff. Craig's mom had notes on the last episode. So Craig's mom, if you're listening, we're going to go through your notes and dad, no, I appreciate they're coming from a place of concern.

[B]

I guess they are so sorry you.

[A]

Took it that way. So we're going to go through that and then also some fun emails and. Yeah. And then we're recording this before the Mariners game seven tonight. We're going to react, probably power hour. We're going to have reactions to the Monday Night Football games in Mariners game seven.

[B]

So maybe if the Mariners win, we'll do a real power hour with alcohol.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And if they lose, we also might do it.

[A]

It's going to be like a hostile witness getting DK to testify if they lose. And he's going to like Irish goodbye and drag it out of here.

[C]

We lost him.

[A]

All right, let's get through. Let's just go to waivers right now because people this is I mean by apocalypse is too strong but there are six teams on by this week.

[B]

This is the first week with six teams on by.

[A]

Yes, the only week with six teams on by. Also a reminder just for your playoffs at the face of playoffs make it 15, 16, 17 because there are buys in week 14. No buys week 13 and then there are buys week 14 so just double check your players start week 15 because I buys in the playoffs. Insane. Anyway, six teams on by Lions, Raiders, Rams, Cardinals, Seahawks and Jaguars are on by. Not to mention obviously some injuries.

[B]

So a lot of names, a lot of good names.

[A]

We're going to go through waivers because I think we always talk about oh if you have to add someone to play them this week as much as any week all year you might have to add and beggars can't be choosers. There are some ugly names and it's.

[C]

Going to be a crapshoot.

[B]

It's not pretty and we are going to be recommending guys. These are short term plays.

[A]

Yeah. All the time. We're kind of like oh like a long term stash. That's not this week. That's like your team next week.

[B]

You need somebody because JSN is out.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So yeah. Without further ado. Starting just that running back where. Yeah. Pro. A lot of people probably need running backs. DK number one running back. If you gotta just grin and bear it and play someone in week eight.

[C]

Well I think I'm gonna go with Kyle Manangai from the Bears.

[B]

Really?

[C]

Yes. I think. I don't know. You can dispute me on that. So over the last couple of weeks he's started to see his playing time ramp up. He had 13 carries for 81 yards and a touchdown in his last game plus three targets who catches 13 yards. The snapshare is getting closer and closer to even with him and DeAndre Swift and the run.

[B]

Great.

[C]

The run game obviously has looked pretty good at least in the last couple of weeks and also Manangai took a lot of the third downlooks so he's going to get opportunities. They're playing the Ravens and the Bengals in the next two weeks. Those two teams have been bad against the run this year and again this is not like a great. I don't think there's any one clear guy but in terms of volume he's a guy that I would probably feel the best about.

[B]

I, I would pick Tyler Algier on the Falcons. I think DK make a very solid case and then playing the Ravens helps the split on. On timeshare is basically 50, 50 now last week. But non guy's playing the majority of third down snaps now. So I do agree. I think the weird part about that is like it feels like Deandre Swift is getting better.

[C]

Right.

[B]

But Manon Guy's playing more.

[C]

But I think they see that and that's why because they're like he can't be a 20 touch guy every week. It's actually good for both of them.

[A]

He also has an injury.

[C]

Right. He's been. He's been missing practice. Plus Ben Johnson comes from Detroit where they very heavily had a committee. Yeah. Yeah. So I think all kind of signs they. It felt like they were kind of just feeling out the running back rotation early on in the season. The Bears, I mean and trying to figure out how they're going to kind of play this Manangay obviously a rookie, he has to work his way into the offense and get more comfortable in it. So it's starting to feel like he is going to be a regular part of their offense and he's honestly looked pretty good.

[B]

So yeah, I'm going with Algiers just because they're playing the Dolphins. They're at home.

[C]

The rainbow strip. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I mean this is like Rico Dowdle 200 yards. Algier has three touchdowns in six games. I mean he has four games this year with 10 or more carries. Like I think they're going to win big. And Tyler Algier in these games when the, when he's almost like Derrick Henry where it's like when the Ravens win. Derrick Henry is a good game. It's kind of similar with Tyler Algier on a smaller scale. So I think I would lean Algier.

[A]

We're talking about week eight playing someone. Yeah. Tyler Algier if he's available. I think the difference is funny too because Algier I think is more. Is less likely to be available in your league. Kyleman Nungai in like just Yahoo, for example, is like 7% rostered. But Nungai I think is widely available and hopefully available in your league. Algier is like closer to like 40%. So it could go. I don't know. I've seen leagues that are big where he's been cut. I've seen small leagues where people have had him the whole year. So it kind of like ebbs and flows. This week Algier, because what Craig said, I mean the Dolphins, I mean they're horrific. And yeah.

[C]

I mean the fact they're playing the.

[A]

Dolphins does make it and they were bad when they hadn't quit on Mike McDaniel. Like they Rico Dowdle set the. Like. I mean. I mean.

[C]

And also the Ravens defense has gotten a little bit better since they've gotten guys back.

[B]

Yep. The.

[A]

Yeah. So I mean, I think I. I would go match up here.

[B]

I mean, they just played the Saints. They were up the whole game. I'm worried now that the Bears are going to step in and play Baltimore. Baltimore's. I mean, Lamar's back, Derek Henry's back like this. They could be down and I wonder how much will play.

[A]

To me, these guys are similar in that. And we're lingering on these guys because everyone else sucks. But Tyler Algier is worth it because if Bijan Robinson ahead of Algier gets hurt. Algiers is top eight running backs every week. Bijan misses time. The difference is Bijan's 23. And every running back can get hurt, but obviously Derek Henry is more likely to get hurt. Probably the Kyle Manon guy. The difference is if you want a little like he also is. It's a bet. It's a bet that just a touchdown randomly gets scored. The difference is DeAndre Swift is actively managing an injury. True. So it's like he doesn't have to get hurt. He has to just aggravate an existing injury. Which again, fantasy is the stupidest thing in the world. Where I'm sitting here just being like, well, DeAndre Swift aggravates his leg, but that is an unguy's. Like, the odds that he starts one week this year are kind of high for those guys.

[B]

It's. This is the top tier. Like Algeria and Ungai are in their own tier. And I think you could go either way.

[A]

Everyone sucks. I can't stress enough. So I would go alier. DK goes mangai. We'll do trivia on time and then I got it to everyone after. This is pretty brutal.

[C]

So let's just do this for Algier then.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

All right. You're gonna sacrifice your integrity and move over to the algae.

[C]

I think the matchup thing and the game script thing that you mentioned for playing Dolphins makes more sense. So I'm actually going to switch my answer.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And also a lot of people listening. I'll do might be rostered so we're on the same page. Algeria and then a nungai and then like, if not those guys, you're probably screwed.

[B]

All right, then it's time. In person. I can't remember the last time we had an in person.

[A]

I know Trivia. I can't wait for this. The only two seconds of mental wash.

[B]

It is the Tyler Algier in person showdown time. Oh, yeah. One day we're gonna have a real gong. It's like in one of our apartments.

[C]

You know, when you go to live music, music really is awesome. Live. The gong is really good right there. Imagine the gong on weed.

[A]

I would do.

[C]

Yeah.

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I would do anything to have a. We need a giant gong. Yeah. Oh, my God. We'll get one. We'll get one.

[B]

All right. By the way, trivia standings. DK and Craig tied for first place with six. Heifetz with four.

[A]

Okay. You two have six. A four.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay. So this one is from Jeff.

[C]

Jeffrey J or G. J? J. Bone.

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Jeff writes. Went to the Monster pumpkin festival in Pittsburgh this weekend with my wife and my mom, along with an awesome giant pumpkin carving competition.

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Took our advice when pumpkin picking.

[A]

There we go, dude. Yeah. There you go.

[B]

Is that what they don't call it? Pumpkin picking? Pumpkin, yeah. Pumpkin picking.

[C]

Pumpkin picking.

[A]

Apple picking.

[B]

It's apple picking.

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I think it's like you go to.

[C]

The pumpkin, you go to the pumpkin.

[B]

Pumpkin patching.

[C]

Yes. And you ride. You ride the little thing.

[B]

I carved pumpkins this weekend.

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I have.

[C]

If it's just loves pumpkins. He doesn't love anything specific about them. He just wants.

[B]

No.

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Well, I like. I like carving pumpkins. I really say weird artistic things. I love sandcastles and I like carving pumpkins.

[B]

You like making sandcastles?

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I love sandcastles.

[B]

You like carving pumpkins?

[A]

I do, yeah. But I also love pumpkins.

[B]

Also, I like pumpkins.

[A]

Like, I just rewatched the Azkaban.

[C]

I don't have any emotion towards Calvin.

[A]

Like pumpkins, pumpkins.

[C]

No, not really. Not yet.

[A]

Dude, pumpkins. I'll take. I'll take Calvin pumpkin picking, you know.

[C]

Sure.

[A]

Anyway, so they were at the pumpkin carving competition. They had on display the largest pumpkin grown in America in 2024. So the trivia question is how large in pounds? How heavy? I guess how heavy in pounds was the largest pumpkin grown in America this year? How heavy was it in pounds? And for all these. Because I don't want any cheating accusations. I don't even know the answer. It's going to take me a moment. I have to open the link to the email in a different browse to get the answers.

[B]

Okay.

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I don't want. So it's gonna take me a little moment, frankly, to get here.

[C]

The beauty of this game is I'm nervous to make any answer ever.

[A]

Always act like we're supposed to know this. I'm like, I don't know.

[C]

I still feel stupid. Yeah, but that's fine.

[B]

That's half the point.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Oh, wait. I actually, I didn't actually think about. Yeah, okay. Sure. I'm ready. I'm just gonna go to literally the first number I thought of.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

3, 2, 1.

[B]

155.

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I said 1,000. Would you say?

[B]

Oh, I said 155.

[C]

I said 750.

[B]

I need.

[A]

Has a huge range.

[B]

I need this to be light.

[A]

The answer is.

[B]

Come on. Sorry. Come on.

[A]

Jeff, Pictures.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

He sent the picture.

[C]

They're gonna be big ass pumpkins.

[B]

Craig, big third down. Jeff, what is it?

[A]

Oh, my God. So I thought it was 274 pounds. It is 2,704 pounds. So 2,000 2700 pounds.

[B]

Holy.

[A]

2741 and a half pounds.

[B]

Jesus. That doesn't look like it weighs that much.

[C]

It's just chock full of really heavy.

[A]

It doesn't look like it weighs over a ton.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Let me see this.

[A]

I really.

[B]

Does that look like it weighs almost 3,000 pounds?

[A]

I mean, look at this. That doesn't look like.

[C]

Well, the size, the size of the little pumpkin next to it is the size of a car. So.

[B]

What. What are you talking the size of?

[C]

Kidding.

[B]

Okay with us.

[A]

Yeah, sorry. I confused people. Whether they should zoom in.

[B]

All right, we, I guess we have no choice but to trust.

[C]

Think about how heavy the, the goop inside is.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

You could crawl in there.

[B]

Maybe there's a person in there and they wait it.

[A]

I, I, I think I've realized through this that no one, there's no gauge to like know how heavy things are. That's not a thing.

[C]

You're supposed to really just picked up a point.

[B]

I really, I really blew it.

[A]

We should I get Al. You get Manungai.

[B]

Oh, no.

[A]

So let's just go through these guys together. We can be quick. I think the third guy would be Bam Knight from the Cardinals. But they're on buy. Bam Knight surpassed Michael. I was wrong about that Michael Carter. I was like, oh, he'd be over Bam Knight. Bam Knight was the starter for them. 14 carries, 57 yards, three catches. I guess he need a running back for beyond next week. He had Bam Knight. But then it's like, is Trey Menson gonna come off ir? Who knows? It's a mess.

[C]

He'll be back soon.

[A]

Tyler Murray will be back. So the offense will get worse. But anyway, Bam Knight's on by Woody Marks on Monday Night Football. I don't know if he even counts. He's available. He's not. I don't know, Craig. So Godspeed. Like, who do you even want?

[B]

Oh, well.

[A]

Frantically Googling.

[B]

No, just my. I kind of. If I have to pick a guy who I, who I like, I like Burchard Smith, the rookie on the Chiefs, Kareem Hunt got banged up. He did come back in the game. Yeah, I mean he had 14, he had 19 touches in this game. They obviously destroyed the Raiders. They're playing Washington. Washington, fourth quarter and Washington. They're playing Washington. Who might be without Jaden.

[C]

Right.

[A]

So I'm like the reason I like Rashard Smith, I mean just to run.

[B]

I just think he's good and like might get touches. Taj Speers Titans are a disaster.

[A]

I'm like, I think you realistically, anyone you pick, you're just praying they get a touchdown. And the reality is you might as well pick someone that if they end up playing well, could actually hold going forward. And Burchard Smith is just. Kareem Hunt got hurt. We don't know how. I don't think it's a long term thing, but he's. Kareem Hunt is no juice. Yeah, Rashard Smith is juice Pacheco kind of like Rashard Smith. There's a lot of weapons there. But he could have more juice for the Chiefs as the season goes. Whereas Taji Spears. The Titans are going to suck all year. Hassan Haskins, the line is destroyed for the Chargers. Like none of these guys.

[B]

Rashard Smith brings something to the team that I think like that the other running backs don't have. He has a juice and electricity to him that Kareem Hunt and Isaiah Pacheco don't have. They also kind of scheme him up, plays like they will run screens for him and things like that.

[A]

Right, right.

[B]

He's.

[C]

He's carving out a role for himself in the offense and slowly but surely slowly. 19 touches though in this last game.

[A]

I mean it was 31 nothing in the fourth quarter.

[C]

True, true. But I mean I, but you're right.

[B]

I mean you don't give a player 19 touches. They're trying to someone trust him.

[A]

Yeah, the. Well, and if they didn't want anyone else to get hurt but Isaiah Davis for the jets, is it kind of like, oh, breeze hall could get traded and then I'm like, oh, but then you have a running back of the jets.

[B]

Who cares?

[A]

It's like the speed.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You want a team oh, congrats. You're the starting running back for shitty offense.

[B]

They can't run that won't be in the red zone one time.

[A]

Exactly. So I agree with what you're saying. And then, like, BAE Shal Tootin is interesting, but, like, the Jaggers are on by.

[B]

He's not getting the ball.

[A]

I know. But they're on by. I know. He's not getting the ball. I'm like, oh, maybe these guys all suck. We'll come back to him later. But, like, no, it's. This is so. Yeah, I think that that one's really easy. Algier first, Manungai second. And I agree. This episode is brought to you by Velveeta. Game day is all about the tailgate spread. First things first. Who's bringing the Velveeta drip? Just like your favorite players on the field, Velveeta fans go all in on what they love. Creamy shells and cheese, melty Velveeta blocks, and cheesy jarred quesos. They're taking down one taste bud at a time. Velveeta is the real MVP of the tailgate. You've got to respect the drip. Do yourself a favor and stock up on Velveeta before kickoff. This episode is brought to you by the Home Depot. The holidays have arrived at the Home Depot, and they're ready to transform your house into a holiday home. No matter your style or budget. They've got so many types of string lights to choose from. You can create everything from a soft glow to a colorful display of holiday cheer. And I love this innovation. Their warm white LED lights come with steady light technology so your lights stay glowing even if one bulb fails. Find everything you need to get your holidays started with the Home Depot. Okay, receivers.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

DK is your number one receiver if you need someone for week eight.

[C]

Again, it's kind of a tough choice.

[B]

Why are you always going to DK first?

[A]

Oh, okay, fine. Screen. Hey, dk. Hey, dk. Look at me. Look at me.

[C]

Somebody else do it.

[B]

Look at me.

[A]

Go fuck yourself, Craig. Who do you want receiver?

[B]

Number one receiver this year, Darnell Mooney. Thank you for asking. Darnell Mooney's been super banged up all year, but when he does play, they use him a lot. To the detriment of Drake London.

[A]

Who?

[B]

The splits with Drake London has without Darnell Mooney are pretty remarkable, but Darnell Mooney is like a player who has had a thousand yards in his season. Like, Darnell Mooney is good. He's had a game this year where he had 11 targets. He had 68 yards last night in the nasty Monday night game. When Darnell Mooney is on the field like Michael Penix throws to him. And again, they're playing Miami.

[A]

I had Darnell Mooney too, for the same reason. If Darnell Mooney is just. This is not a sexy thing to say. He's the best number two receiver on waivers. He's the number two receiver in that offense ahead of Pitts. And I think that it hasn't been reflected because he's been hurt. He was hurt for August and then he was hurt in the beginning. You're aggravated. It's the same thing as Algier where I'm like, the Dolphins defense sucks and they've been trying. There's a chance that the Dolphins just quit on the team this week, but even if they don't, when the Dolphins secondary has been trying, it hasn't really reflected. So, I mean, I think Mooney is like, clearly this week he's one of the few guys that could succeed and also like have some sort of staying power for the next month or so. So I agree with that. I would take darn a Mooney first.

[B]

Daniel.

[C]

I'll go with Mooney as well, but I want to just throw out Kayshawn Booty again as an option if you feel a little bit better about New England. The reason that I like him here is that you're connecting him with a guy who's playing at a very high level at quarterback in Drake May, and he's passing the ball down the field a lot. He's actually one of the best D ball passers in the NFL right now. He has five deep touchdowns, which is tied for second most in the NFL. If you look at some of the efficiency numbers, he's. He's been really accurate down the field. So that's kind of Keisha. Booty's role and specialty in the offense.

[A]

Bet on talent because Booty is talented at the catch point. Drake May is talent. It's fun to watch on Sundays because you actually get to watch Drake May have a good season. And also you get a guy on your finish team named Booty. You can make that. I mean, can you guys. How do you guys feel about like a waiver name? A waiver wire guy? Like changing your name of your fantasy team?

[C]

Vibes, bringing in the vibes.

[B]

I don't mind it at all. I'm down. Change your name every week if you want. I think it's great.

[A]

So. Because like Booty, like, there's obviously need to Slaves. A lot of good. A lot of good names.

[C]

The booty call.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah. So. But I'm gonna stick with Mooney just because he was proud of that.

[B]

No, I know.

[C]

I wasn't that proud.

[B]

A lot of good names.

[C]

We moved on spitballing here, you know.

[B]

And I'm trying to think of something.

[A]

That'S John David Booty. Just go straight, you know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Booty, Booty, Booty, Booty.

[B]

Rocking in a. Well, that too.

[C]

I don't know if that's character.

[A]

Count my times. I couldn't hear you. What was that?

[C]

No.

[A]

Okay. Yeah, sure. Take booty.

[C]

I'm no longer playing your games.

[A]

Okay, we'll do trivia. The other trivia for Mooney, I would say. I think there's a tier, though, three. Mooney first for me. Yeah, Booty. Because it's. I mean, ass. Troy Franklin for the Broncos. Who. I mean, he had what?

[B]

He had a fake touchdown.

[C]

I'm going to read his stuff.

[A]

He got the hook and ladder sent to him.

[C]

I will not the.

[A]

Okay, but the thing's fake. But they're playing the Cowboys who give up 410 yards.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So he had 10 targets.

[C]

Who's the fifth string receiver on the Broncos right now?

[A]

I was going to say Devon Valley, but he's actually on the Saints now.

[C]

Which is so funny, but it'll be that guy.

[B]

Troy. Troy Franklin's targets are much higher than you would expect for somebody performing as. As kind of little as he is. But he does have high targets.

[A]

I agree with everything you're saying about like you, you hate Sean Payton. You don't want to trust him. I mean, it's not just Sean Payton the point. It's like the packers. The point of the offense is you don't know where the ball's going. It's the opposite of Stafford, where Stafford's or the Flacco. Now it's got to be called the Flacco. Well, Jamar Chase is good. I'll throw it that way.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it's like, then there's the Matt LaFleur, the Sean Payton of like, why the fuck would I telegraph where the ball's going on a particular where some fantasy football podcast could figure out where I'm going with the ball. I don't want to tell people to know that. The flip side of me is Dallas's defense allows so much yardage to everybody that in a week like this where there are six teams on by beggars, can't be choosers. And if you can just have A guy who's probably gonna get eight targets against a team allowing 400 plus yards a week. I can't do better than that. So that's why Darnell Mooney for the Falcons, Troy Franklin for the Broncos, and Case Nobody for the Patriots is my top tier. And you can even convince me the fourth guy should be Marvin Mims, also in the Broncos. Just because someone on Dallas will have, like, 120 yards and two touchdowns.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

Or, sorry, someone on Denver versus Dallas will have 100. And I'm like, well, you have a one in three shot.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

What about Alec Pierce?

[A]

You could do that as well.

[C]

How? 10 targets, 5 catches, 98 yards. Yeah. They're an absolute fucking wagon.

[B]

They are. Pierce is really good in the role that Indianapolis wants him to play. He's kind of perfect, and he's genuinely, like, a fantastic downfield threat.

[A]

You could do Pierce probably ahead of Mims, I think.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Then that's probably maybe a top five.

[B]

And you could play Tennessee.

[A]

You could argue Pierce should be second because he's.

[C]

I mean, he's.

[A]

It's the same.

[C]

It's kind of the same argument for Keisha. Booty is like, you're in a good offense. They're pushing the ball down the field. He has a very specific role, and he might catch a couple of big passes.

[A]

And yeah, it's. He. He needs one play away from. Right. From being worth it. And again, I know this is. We can move on. It's like, these guys all suck, but these guys are pretty solid. Like, yeah, it's. It's a. I. I know it's funny, but, like, it's a hard week. No, these are. Receiver. You're better off this week. Like, these options are solid. Mooney Franklin, Marvin Mims, Kisham, Booty, Alec, Pierce, all those guys, any of them could deliver for you.

[B]

All right, that means it's time. It's time for the Darnell Mooney. It is time for the Darnell Mooney showdown. Time. Bang. Let that wash over you.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Give me something good. No giant pumpkins.

[A]

So we. If you weren't listening, I don't remember what episode it was last week. We really showed our ass. Totally showed our booty. Showed our booty, if you will, that we have no idea how the WWE works. It is total blind spot for all three of us.

[C]

Oh, right. That's my bad.

[A]

And we just absorb it through culture a little. But, like, we have no idea what we're talking about.

[C]

About.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So let me clear. I don't judge it. I just don't know, like anything. If anything, our entire culture has actually become wwe. But that's another conversation. This is from Nick, Nicky and Bone. That. Don't do that one. That's. Come on. The. So Nick says the Undertaker. Sorry, geez. The Undertaker, aka the Dead man, aka the American Badass, was one of WWE's most enduring and high profile characters. He's the owner of, quote, the Streak, a series of consecutive victories at WWE's flagship event, WrestleMania. So the question is, how many years did the Undertaker's undefeated streak at WrestleMania last?

[B]

Wow, okay, that's a good question. He does the. Is it the tombstone? What's his move where he like has the guy upside down, drops him like, like knees or something? That's like his finishing move, you know.

[A]

What I'm talking about? Yeah, it's funny because it's like a finishing move. That's like 69, but. No, I know. Yeah, he just drops him on this.

[B]

Is it called the tombstone? We're doing the same thing.

[A]

All the people listening are ghosts just screaming into the void.

[B]

How long was his reign at resident?

[C]

Do you know? Do you know what years he was active?

[A]

I don't like the anything.

[C]

The early aughts into them.

[B]

Two thousand and tens.

[A]

I think everything wrestling is from the.

[C]

I think I remember the guy that was like, yeah, okay.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, sure, the ring are great.

[A]

Vince McMahon.

[B]

Yes, Mr. McMahon on Netflix, which it's actually fantastic.

[A]

All of my knowledge is from DeAndre the giant doc in this.

[B]

Another good one.

[A]

Okay, okay. Three. All right. How long, how many years in a row did Undertaker win WrestleMania? 3, 2, 1?

[C]

14.

[A]

I said 4. I said 12. You said 14.

[B]

Four has to be more than four.

[A]

You think they named it the Streak for four years? Actually, I guess.

[C]

Actually, I guess, yeah. That's what I think Hivetz is the.

[B]

King of criticizing you before reading the answer. Jesus Christ.

[A]

Guessing my hit rate on that is probably 90k is gonna win.

[B]

It's gonna.

[C]

You know what? That's a dynasty in the NFL.

[A]

Good luck. Oh, he didn't even include it. I guess we have to Google it. This is what happens when you like want to accuse me of cheating. We don't know the fucking answer. The Streak.

[B]

Watch it before 21. 21 years.

[C]

That seems pretty boring. Change it up.

[B]

Hell yeah.

[A]

Craig, you get Darnell mooney.

[B]

That's huge. 21 years. Oh, wait, wait. 21 consecutive victories.

[A]

Oh, no. At WrestleMania or in a row.

[B]

The Streak span 23 years. 91 to 2014. He went 21 and over that stretch.

[A]

That's. That's a. That's a lot.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Ended in 2014.

[A]

That's Tom Brady's entire career. Imagine if Tom Brady won the super bowl for every year of his career. Yeah, that's like too many.

[C]

So, wait, he was undefeated that whole time? So he was the champion for just three years?

[A]

Okay, but he said flagship. This is where. I don't know that.

[C]

I think I misunderstood the question.

[A]

The money in the bet. What do you think the question was?

[C]

But it was like, he was the champion of the WWE or wwf for, like.

[A]

That's how. I know you're old. You said.

[C]

Well, yeah, it was. That's what it was when I was growing up.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, I mean, he won WrestleMania every year.

[C]

I don't know what that means. Well, it's like, does that make you the champion?

[A]

You weren't listening what I was saying. I was at WrestleMania. It was like, oh, I don't know what he said. The flagship event, but no, it's WrestleMania. How many years in a row did he win WrestleMania?

[C]

It's like all the soccer championships. I don't know what the it means.

[A]

Oh, my God. Dude. My friend was trying to explain to.

[C]

Me that, like, Copa day, whatever. I'm like, okay.

[A]

My friend's like, a Tottenham fan. And he was like, like, oh, yeah, this, like, the thing. I was like, I thought you guys missed out on the Champions League. He's like, yeah, yeah, this is the. The FA Cup. And I'm like, what's that? He's like, it's a different tournament. I'm like, do you want to win it? He's like, yes. Do you care about it? He's like, no. It's like, why do they even participate? He's like, I don't know. Something for the Cabinet.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, what?

[B]

Yeah, I truly. I have, like, no idea what's going on with that.

[A]

Would I actually have a request for next week? Can you guys email in trivia questions about, like, the premiere? Like, dude, it's the original Ted Lasso bit from the commercial. Not even the show. It's like, how many countries are in this country?

[B]

I feel like you can. You can be playing simultaneously in three different leagues, right?

[A]

Well, I do know. I know enough.

[C]

Then there's loans, too.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, do we get into this because I know little. Not enough to make people upset.

[C]

Let's not the champions.

[A]

It is a good system.

[B]

Well, I like the relegation. All that's great. But isn't it, like, you can be Playing for your country while playing for your team, which is a part of a different league in a different country. But then you can also be playing in a third thing.

[A]

So there's two. Yes. So there's. I can't God me explaining soccer is going to make so many people mad. I'm going to try the Premier League, which is like the NFL for Europe, it's like. Or the NFL for England. And that's obviously people are just furious. No, but it is that. That's right. And there's relegation. You get that. So underneath that there's all these other leagues, the Champions League. But the point being, every country has their pro league. Like there is a pro league in Italy, there's a pro league like La Liga in Spain, like Netherlands. Like every country has their version of like their NFL. And the Premier League in England is like the NFL of the one that's the most respected. And the best teams are usually there. But then the Champions League is all the other pro leagues from all the countries getting auto bids. So it's kind of more like, think of it almost for our system. Almost like England is like the sec and then like Spain is like the Big Ten and then like Italy is like the pac. So then the college football player for whatever is the Champions League, which is like a 32. I forget how many teams are in it. And they all the winners, they're top two, top four, depending how it is. And it's like the Premier League gets more bids the same way that the SEC is going to get more teams in the championship. And then the champion of all the Champions League, that's the coolest thing you can win. So like England is like the best thing, but Real Madrid has like won the most. So it's kind of like a Big Ten school. SEC is the best Premier League, but Real Madrid is actually for the last.

[B]

25 years because they're winning the Champions League.

[A]

Yeah, it's like they're like Ohio State and then like, or I guess Alabama or whatever. But then like Barcelona is like Michigan, but like they're not the best conference necessarily. The SEC is probably the best conference.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So then that's like the professional leagues and they all interact. Then there is also a season for like international competition, which is every four years the World cup off staggered with the Olympics, where the Olympics actually, it's like junior teams because they actually care more about the World cup than the Olympics. So some teams have younger players play and then they have like UEFA, which is like Europe. So every the staggered four years is like, they'll have UEFA, which is like the European Championships.

[B]

UEFA.

[A]

UEFA, yeah. Sorry.

[B]

UEFA or UEFA.

[A]

Any sport. I can't pronounce it right.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But anyway, so I'm falling.

[B]

Are you?

[C]

I think I already kind of, like, knew all this, but, yeah. Oh, it's good.

[B]

I don't think I could have.

[C]

I don't know. I tried to tell you to stop, but.

[A]

Oh, that's true. He said, don't do this.

[B]

I don't think I could have outlined that as clearly.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

So I. Yeah, that was helpful.

[A]

I would love for soccer fans to email in and be like, just. Just shred me if.

[C]

I mean, it's probably right. Wrong in some ways and. Right in some ways.

[A]

Ways, yeah. Anyway, okay, what are we talking about?

[B]

Who's your favorite soccer team? Do you have one?

[A]

I. My roommate. Like, the last time I had a roommate, he was a Tottenham fan. And so I would. Tried and I got it. It was right when. Oh, God. Who's their best?

[B]

Harry Kane.

[A]

Harry Kane.

[B]

You like that poll?

[C]

Look at you.

[B]

No big deal.

[A]

Harry Kane's brother was, like, at someone's wedding, talking in the Telegraph or one of those British papers. Got it all over that he wanted out and whatever. It was like a drama because he was like, you know, and so I was like, oh. And I tried and they have. They have another great son. Is just awesome for them. But, like, realistically, I didn't care enough. Like, I will watch matches because they're interesting, but, like, I can't even keep track of who my friends. Like, my friends.

[B]

I don't remember. Pretty pathetic. I'm like, I like the World Cup.

[C]

Sure.

[B]

You know, like, oh, Italy versus England.

[A]

Where, like, people turn on the super bowl to watch the. I'm like, oh, my God, is that today? And they're like, it's the biggest event in the world. It's like the Champions League final. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah, that. That's. Is that.

[B]

I'm kind of the exact same way.

[A]

I'm like, oh, wow.

[C]

Same. Anyway, and then I always convince myself I'm going to get into it and then I don't.

[A]

So email a soccer trivia, please at Fantasy football ringer. Fantasy football.

[B]

So going back, I got Mooney High. Fitz, you have second pick.

[A]

I'm going to take Troy Franklin and I'll let DK get Ksha Booty or Alec Pierce. Actually, it's up to you who you want.

[C]

I'll take Booty.

[A]

Okay. And then I think Alec Pierce and Marvin Mims. Are the other two if you want like Jalen Coker. Andy Dalton is. Might start for Carolina this week. Bryce Young has high ankle sprain. I feel like Andy Dalton will play. Is he on the Jacoby Brissette list of like Panthers will get better?

[B]

I think there's a chance. There's a one week Dalton bump. That always happens.

[A]

I think. I actually think Dalton's better than Young. I think Kirk Cousins would play better than Penix.

[B]

You think Dalton is just straight up better than Bryce Young right now?

[A]

Yeah, kind of.

[B]

Really?

[A]

I. I am. I mean, he could come in and suck, but I kind of think he'll just play better. Okay, look.

[B]

You think that too?

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

You think Andy Dalton's better than Bryce Young?

[C]

Could be better or it could be worse.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

The Panthers have a winning record.

[C]

I don't think Bryce. I don't think Bryce is. I don't think Bryce is good enough to be like. It's sort of in the same vein as like Flacco, like he. I think. I think Dalton could look good in some games and then look completely.

[B]

I'm asking if, if point blank, right, for the rest of the year. You could have one quarterback, Andy Dalton or Bryce Young.

[A]

To win more games.

[B]

Yeah, to win more games.

[C]

I would have Bryce. Okay.

[B]

But I don't think about that.

[C]

I think my point was like, Andy Dalton doesn't make them horrific.

[B]

Oh no. Yeah.

[A]

I was just saying, like, who's better watching Flacco.

[C]

Bryce is better.

[A]

Look, Flacco gets a cheat code because he just has Jamar Chase and like the Steelers didn't take him away. But I do at some point, the competency, like, it's like the roller coaster. Like, are you tall enough to ride the ride well, Bryce, kind of literally. But like, are you competent enough? Can you just understand what's going on in an offense? Execute a given plan. And I'm not saying Bryce can't, but I'm like, Dalton can. Flacco can. And it's like, it's. It's actually crazy that all these guys are hanging around, but I do I. Again, he could come in. It suck, but I kind of don't think he will.

[B]

No, I, I agree with that. I think Dalton will probably be a serviceable backup. I was just saying in a vacuum, you were like, oh, I think Dalton is just better than Bryce Young.

[A]

Which surprised me if it was one of those where like, we don't care about developing Bryce and we're not a sunk cost with the first pick or whatever.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Their Goal was like, actually, however many games you can win this season, that's all that matters. You think it's Dalton.

[A]

We will be like, the human race will be wiped out. If the Panthers don't win nine games this year, I would actually play any Dalton.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

But again, I could be wrong. Maybe he's gonna suck on Sunday. But I. That's kind of.

[B]

It'd be funny if they kept, like, winning the job from the other one. Like, Dalton plays great. They stick with him the rest of the year, then he gets hurt. Bryce Young comes in, plays great, plays for 10 weeks, gets hurt, and it's just like your cycles.

[A]

Only thing I want to say before moving for receivers, just Jaden Higgins for the Texans and Luther Burton for the Bears both play tonight, and they're rookies. And we say every week, don't give up.

[B]

I like Burden.

[A]

If the rookies do anything tonight. Also add that because they. If Jay does anything, he doesn't play tonight. Oh, yeah. Sorry. No, no, man. Sorry. I touched her. Just Jay Niggins. Sorry. There you go.

[C]

Burden. Burden played this week. He had a couple plays, but he actually. His. His snap rate actually went down, so it's not great.

[A]

Yeah, exactly. If the snap rate goes down, that's bad. All right, tight end. This one's the easiest. We all have a Rhonda Gadsden for the Chargers, right?

[C]

Yeah. I mean, he did something that very few tight ends do as rookies.

[A]

Seven catches for 164 yards and a touchdown. There are a lot of rookies that don't do that for two months at a time. So we can just.

[C]

Also, he had eight target. He had nine targets this week. Eight targets the week before.

[A]

So he was.

[B]

He looks extremely athletic and explosive. Like, he looks very physically gifted. Yeah, I agree. That's not my thing. You know, that's his thing.

[C]

Oh, I know.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just saying.

[C]

Just not looking at him.

[B]

He looks different than most tight ends to me, physically, in terms of.

[A]

He.

[B]

He looks closer to a wide receiver.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I guess I'm just saying he's basically more agile than the average tight end.

[C]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. That's what you're looking for.

[A]

You know that this goes.

[B]

I get it. I get it. All NFL players are athletic, right?

[A]

Yeah. You know, in defense, you know, we can't just be. What did you call Jake Ferguson?

[B]

A lumbering oaf, number one tight end in fantasy.

[C]

Just saying, like, while I was propping him up, by the way, for the.

[A]

Record, that was funny when you. We had that whole 10 minute argument about athletic tight ends. And then you just read a list of Mark Andrews, Ferguson and. And all.

[B]

He's just a zone 8 yard catch merchant. That's all.

[A]

He's with Dak.

[B]

Yeah. Oh, cool.

[C]

Perfect. It's a perfect situation.

[B]

You sit there 10 yards down the field while CD and Pickens run crazy.

[A]

Okay, let's just do this around a Gadsden shout out time.

[B]

Yeah, it's Gadson, all right. It is the arande Gadsden. There's two Ds there. Showdown time.

[A]

It's the only good part of my day. Okay. This is from Matt.

[B]

Matthew.

[C]

M. Bone.

[B]

Matthew.

[A]

This question is related to Jerry Jones saying he knows where the sun will be almost a year in advance.

[B]

Uh oh.

[A]

So not only does humanity know the exact path of the sun through the sky for centuries to come, we also know the exact path of the moon through the sky for centuries. So with this, NASA has actually mapped out all solar eclipses through the year 3000.

[C]

Hmm. Oh, wow.

[A]

So the question is, how many solar eclipses, how many total solar eclipses will there be on earth in the 30th century? So 2900 to 3000. The year 2901 to 3000. How many? So 100 years.

[B]

Over that 100 years.

[A]

Over that 100 years. How many total solar eclipses? In other words, how about the sun? How about the moon? That's the question.

[B]

Well, no, I know because it's like lunar eclipse is solar. I don't know. I don't know.

[A]

I have my answer.

[B]

I'm sure you do. Sure.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

A hundred years. No.

[C]

I have no fucking clue.

[B]

Whatever.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

3, 2, 1.

[C]

50.

[A]

I said 6.

[B]

I said 9.

[A]

50. 50.

[C]

It was probably way too high because.

[A]

I was just thinking, how many total solar eclipses have we seen?

[B]

I don't know the answer.

[A]

The answer is 248.

[B]

Over a hundred years. There's two and a half a year.

[A]

I guess. I guess it's the whole world.

[C]

Oh.

[A]

Because we only see some, not just Los Angeles. Oh, yeah. Damn, I didn't think about that.

[B]

You're smart, dk.

[C]

Fuck yeah, I got Gads.

[B]

You knew that. That's why you guessed that. Because you factored that in and it.

[A]

Was all about global. DICA gets Gadsden.

[B]

What'd you say, nine?

[A]

Oh, see.

[B]

Fuck.

[A]

You go second.

[B]

I'll take. This is contingent on, I guess what happens tonight, but it's. It's really not because I. I'm. I. I'm assuming Abuka and a lot of people are Going to be out still for the Bucks, but I would take Kate Otten as the tight end for the Bucks as long as a lot of these guys are still hurt.

[C]

Well, I saw today that Abuka might play or he's going to play. Do you still want to feel that way tonight? Yeah.

[B]

Abu is playing tonight.

[C]

Yeah, I know.

[B]

I got to make some changes.

[A]

Oh, wow.

[B]

No, that does change things, actually on plays, though.

[A]

It's like. It means.

[B]

I know, but. Oh, wow. Okay. This gets tricky. Other guys, I'm considering Theo Johnson on the Giants. There's Isaiah Likely. It's funny because now that Lamar Jackson's coming back.

[A]

Watch. Otten's gonna have two touchdowns tonight, and they're gonna.

[C]

I mean, yeah, Abuka might. Yeah, he might, like, not play a ton.

[B]

Yeah. All right.

[A]

You know what?

[B]

I'm gonna say odd, and then you're gonna say Isaiah likely, right?

[A]

Maybe.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

No, honestly, I don't think I'll say. Is they likely? Because Lamar didn't practice today. Monday. It's weird because I like Isaiah Likely because at some level, it's all a fucking dart throw unless they score a touchdown. The difference is, if the Ravens, like, lose to the Bears this week and then, like, Mark Andrews gets traded, is it likely to be valuable? But it's like, if and if. And if, like, I don't know.

[B]

I'm gonna go with Otten.

[A]

That's fine. I. I. Part of me. Well, what do you guys think? Part of me is, like, between Theo Johnson. Oh, it was number. No, sorry. This is. Gadsden's gone. And if you're saying Otten, I'm between Isaiah Likely and Theo Johnson.

[B]

Theo Johnson, if you have Theo Johnson and Tri Franklin, you have two guys who just catch tipped touchdowns.

[A]

I know. That's funny. Well, it's not about that. With the. Theo Johnson had, like, seven targets, and I know they were throwing a lot, but they do look to Theo Johnson a lot in the. In the end zone, because Wando's not a red zone guy. Like Theo Johnson in the 20 inside the red zone. Kind of the number one receiver for the Giants look to. Which is kind of all you want at some point, but I get it. Also, weirdly, Mason Taylor for the Jets. I don't think I want to do this, but if Torod Taylor ends up starting over Fields.

[C]

Oh, yeah, he'd be better, I think.

[A]

Like, I refuse to play Mason Taylor as Fields plays. I don't want any. Even Garrett Wilson, like, I can't do this anymore. Mason Taylor, I think, becomes viable If Todd Taylor's playing but I would probably just go with Isaiah likely. But even then if Lamar doesn't play, I don't want Isaiah likely either. I'd rather have Theo Johnson. Yeah, I know it's kind of a cop out but if Lamar isn't practicing on like Wednesday then like I would just do Theo Johnson. Yeah tight end. So I guess I'll go with him. But if Lamar comes back, I would do likely.

[B]

I think Lamar's going to be back.

[A]

If Lamar's back, I'll do is ain't likely.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So am I saying like I guess I gotta pick here. Fuck it.

[C]

I'll do like the longest box.

[B]

Not too likely.

[C]

Well, we got dead air.

[A]

We got dead air's playing. I'll do likely because I'll also. It's like you kind of want good offenses and it's like the Ravens with Lamar still a good offensive Mike hopefully. And like you're taking Baker and Otten like that's fun.

[B]

I'm just, I'm just, I'm getting ahead of it.

[C]

I'm just basking in the Gadsden pick. Loving it.

[A]

Sounds great about it. Okay. Roll into each other in quarterback. Slim pick.

[C]

Can't believe this is my life. What is that? What is the Braun.

[A]

This is a beggars can't be choosers week if you got a stream. I mean if they're available. Jackson Dart for the Giants. Obviously the rushing Aaron Rodgers playing Green Bay. I mean that he's going to try to throw five touchdowns. I don't know if these guys are available but if they are, that would be to me be obvious. If not and you need a quarterback to stream. I feel like Marcus Mariota for Washington because they're playing the Chiefs. I don't think Jaden Daniels is going to play this week. Like he has a hamstring injury apparently.

[C]

Day to day but I don't think.

[A]

He'S going to play. Yeah so I think Mariota, I mean he runs in this offense. Like I really think Mario could very easily be a top five quarterback at fantasy this week even if Washington gets crushed. So I think Mariota is. Is easily the answer. Joe Flacco, the Bengals. I mean again, beggars can't be choosers. Like he's got Chase, he's got Higgins. Like I mean clearly can make it happen. And then Michael Pennix versus Miami. I know Sunday football wasn't great but the Miami defense sucks ass. So Mario Deflacco, Penix, one of those guys should be available. Although I would take Jackson Dart or even Rogers over those guys defenses. Houston's defense is just weirdly available. Like they're on by like just check and like Houston's defense is really good and watch them.

[C]

A lot of people stream defenses and if you're on high they just drop them.

[A]

Yeah we are recording this before Monday Night Football. Maybe they got shredded but I would go to Houston defense. Niners vs. Houston isn't crazy to me. Bills vs. Panthers at the eventual Dalton is crazy but I would say Houston defense is one. I would actually say the Falcons defense versus Miami has to be too totally like the Falcons defense is obviously playing well past rush. Miami's a mess. I don't have to explain it to people like they're playing awful like Falcons defense is easy.

[B]

That's my favorite one.

[A]

I think they're 9% rostered on Yahoo. I would like the Falcons defense is super available and like probably one of the last defenses you can go get in a crowded league that's like could you might actually be able to ride all year. So I would go Falcons and if they're gone bucks Defense Week 8 vs Saints I know there's a chance that the Bucks got shredded on defense tonight versus the Lions, but Saints and Rattler versus Todd Bowles I they have to lose three or four more guys at defense. Not like that but I certainly would go Houston defense first, Falcons defense second, Bucks defense third. And then if you I mean if you really all those gone Niners. But with that said. Yeah so that's waivers this episode is brought to you by ikea. When you're hosting on game day and it comes to cooking, you want a kitchen that everyone there will be a fan of. No matter what your kitchen dreams are, IKEA has products and solutions to help, from kitchen remodels to smart new cutlery. Whatever the size of your kitchen dream and budget, you can bring it to life with high quality, expertly designed and innovative products from IKEA. Visit IKEA US DreamKitchen to learn more. Dream the possibilities sparkle throughout the night with Born in Roma fragrances by Valentino Beauty. Each bottle holds the energy of Rome after dark. Donna Born in Roma blends luxurious jasmine with rich, creamy vanilla, creating a sensual and vibrant signature scent. Uoma Born in Roma fuses aromatic sage and smoked vetiver, leaving a lasting impression that lingers well into the early hours. Shop Born in Roma by Valentino Beauty now at Ulta and you guys want to do some emails?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So yeah. And just a reminder, we have Power Hour Wednesday. Send us Fantasy Quartz Emails, Fantasy court cases. Emails. Trivia. I kind of want some soccer trivia now. I don't know what I want, but I want Premier league stuff or just facts. Whatever. Do we. Emails first. But first, do we want to start with Craig? Your mom texted you about the show we recorded yesterday.

[B]

Yeah. So this morning I'm driving in to work and I get a text from my mom. I was at a stoplight. I glanced, and it says this, dad. And I just watched a new fantasy clip. Why do you look so sweaty? Are you feeling okay? Was it hot in the office?

[C]

It was kind of hot in that.

[B]

Room, I guess so.

[C]

I will say that I'm sensitive to the hot.

[B]

I said, jesus, mom, what kind of thing is that to say to someone? She said, I'm sorry you took it that way. Dad and I were worried, thinking that maybe you were getting sick. It was meant with love.

[A]

This looks like.

[C]

It looks a little jaundice here. I guess you got some, like, sheen happening on your forehead.

[B]

Yeah, I guess. I'm. There's like a glistening going on. It's my Botox. Maybe looking a little bit tight. I don't know.

[C]

But yeah, I just never worried about you.

[B]

Called me out point blank.

[A]

I like that.

[C]

As both your parents, dad and I were wondering if maybe you're getting sick.

[A]

Did she use the word sickly or sick?

[C]

You're looking poorly.

[B]

Well, she's saying what I think. Why do you look so sweaty? Is the worst part. Why do you look so sweaty? Are you feeling okay? Was it hot in the office? It's like trying to give me an out, honestly.

[A]

What's funny is that room was exceptionally cold.

[B]

I know it was cold.

[C]

It got hot during the show, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It gets hot under the lights. Yeah, they turn the lights up, it gets warm.

[B]

It didn't agree with my skin tone, I guess. Anyway, that kind of stung to start my day as I had like five.

[A]

Or five more recordings. Sorry you took it that way.

[B]

Yeah, she did.

[C]

Yeah. Sorry if you were offended.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

We need to get your mom a PR firm.

[A]

Can you email us ringofantasy football gmail.com.

[C]

Other sorry if I offended you.

[A]

Email us. Other text Blunt Boomer texts, for lack of a better term. Like things your parents text you.

[B]

Well, because remember, we already did that one training with the dads. Okay, Dad, I just had a baby boy. I named him after you. Thumbs up.

[A]

Thumbs up emoji.

[C]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

It's good. Yeah.

[B]

If I could be half the father you were, I would be a good dad. Thumbs up, thumbs up.

[A]

Email is more text, more, more. Just parents not knowing.

[B]

It's like. It's just like watching mess.

[A]

It's so good.

[C]

Call me as soon as you can.

[B]

What the hell?

[A]

Oh, my God. Who's dead? He's like, yeah, I just had a second. What's up? I. Most of my texts to my parents now are just screenshotting every scam text I get and sending it to them. Be like, don't respond to this. Yeah, like every. I don't know if you guys. This has taken up. This takes up more like a crazy percentage of my communications.

[C]

My parents is just protecting them from fraud.

[A]

Screenshotting texts and, like, don't respond to these.

[B]

I just got a text during this recording, like, five minutes ago that I deleted that said, hey, my car broke down. Can you come pick me up?

[A]

I know from a random number you.

[C]

Just left your friend hanging.

[B]

I know. My best friend. I don't have his number, though, but it's my best friend.

[A]

But do you know that there's a new one they have now where someone actually sends you money on Zelle?

[B]

Really?

[A]

And then they're like, can you send it back? Oh, wow. Breaks into their account, and then they send their money all the way out.

[B]

Right.

[A]

But then they said it. You sell it back. But the scammers are taking that. But the idea is, like, the bank will reimburse the person, but not because they got hacked, but not you. Because you willingly sent the money. So it's like. But it's like, where it's like, yeah, I don't know how my parents would think of that. Like, oh, they got sent money to send it back to this person. Oh, sorry.

[C]

Some of the scams are actually pretty.

[A]

They're getting good.

[C]

They're getting pretty now talking about how.

[B]

You need, like, a safe word where. Because you'll get phone calls and it'll sound like. Like, my mom is getting a call from me, and I'll be frantic saying, I need money.

[A]

Well, thank God.

[C]

Oh, because of, like, AI and everything.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Thank God. There's no, like, recordings of our voices out there. Any.

[B]

No, I don't. I can't think of a single instance.

[C]

Yeah, there's.

[B]

There's one.

[C]

That's.

[B]

That's why you need a safe word to, like, prove that it's you.

[A]

Right.

[C]

That's a good call.

[A]

I want this to email us about.

[B]

Mine is Gadsden. Mine is Manungai.

[A]

Manungai and Gadsden.

[C]

There's one going on now where people will Call you. And they can spoof a number onto your phone.

[A]

I know.

[C]

So it looks like they're calling from, for instance, what they say is the sheriff's department. And they're like, something to do with a bond you have to pay because whatever. I can't remember how they do it. And then they'll even say, you can call my captain or whatever. And then. Yeah, you'll look up the number, and it's like the actual number for.

[A]

It's crazy.

[C]

The sheriff's department, they somehow figure out a way to, like, spoof these numbers.

[A]

It's so advanced. Yeah, it is so advanced. And so now you can't even. What's crazy is. And I had to tell my parents, it's like you can only exist within the app on your phone. Because, like, even they've managed to do. Did you see the other day that Google just limited search to only 10 pages? Because what these sites were doing, they figured out how to use the AI to create so many fake web pages to just overwhelm the Gemini at the top of Google that if you actually create 100,000 dead Internet web pages that say the phone number for. I won't list the bank, but, like, is. This is the help number. Gemini doesn't know that 100,000 pages are wrong. And so the actual number you Google, the suggested job, even like. Like, bank support that number. They're gear. So that's the thing is like, oh, what's. But if you do it. Oh, here's.

[B]

They're like flooding the learning model.

[A]

So you create 500 pages that say the sheriff number is that. You Google it. You just call that number, and they're creating a loop. So it's like you can't even trust things you Google anymore. But the other crazy. So I know this is. But this is like my life. I'm serious. Like, I know I'm Randy, but it's crazy how good this stuff has gotten.

[C]

This is why I don't ever respond to any messages or email or voicemails.

[A]

You know, you guys get the parking enforcement, the please pay now. Like, easy pass or tolls or unpaid tolls. Like those one. Wall Street Journal just had an article that scammers in China made $1 billion from those texts last year.

[C]

It's a massive industry.

[A]

$1 billion from just the toll text, the easy pay this toll now. Urgent. Like. And they're like, you have to pay this before. And they create the free.

[B]

I gotta say, several times I've seen those. And I'm like, is this Real do.

[A]

The fake panic and fake urgency and there's like, you have to do it and like they create.

[B]

Especially if they can figure out if you were just on the freeway, then the next day you get the text.

[A]

I highly recommend if you get these just screenshot. Just sending your parents. It takes two seconds to do. But yeah, it's. Email us about this stuff. If anyone knows about how this works, please email it. I won't go into anything happening in the world and politics and government right now, but I will say, why the. How the fuck can they not fix this? Just. I don't.

[B]

Anyway, there was a. I was, I was. I saw one battle after another last week and you know that movie is about like very charged moment in the political climate. It's about like government power, all this stuff. And in the middle of the movie, my phone starts buzzing. I'm getting a call. I pull out my phone and it just says the United States government, dude.

[A]

It's unbelievable.

[C]

And I was like, how do you scare somebody? How should we scare this guy?

[B]

Yeah, do they know I'm in this movie?

[A]

It's unbelievable.

[B]

It was. But it was a congressman like leaving.

[C]

A message about the United States, but.

[B]

It said the United States or maybe the federal government. It's true.

[A]

The call ID can be manipulated too, which is also like crazy.

[B]

Like Liz got a call from Apple once and it was not Apple.

[A]

Dude, you can't trust again. What's funny is the phone companies can't figure out how to make the phone call. Like I can't trust the phone call. Yeah, like you're the phone companies.

[B]

I might go back to my LG Rumor. Best phone.

[A]

Careful out there. Good luck everybody.

[B]

What was your favorite phone pre iPhone?

[A]

Oh, the razor. The Motorola Razor.

[B]

You know what? Oh, I never had a razor.

[A]

The.

[B]

The LG Rumor slapped, dude.

[C]

This is the one that like would twist and you open up the QWERTY keyboard.

[B]

It didn't twist, it just slid. You're thinking of the Sidekick.

[A]

Yeah, Sidekick kind of like there is a website.

[C]

So you like the full on. On like.

[B]

Yeah, you turn it sideways. Go, go. Landscape mode. Full keyboard. I mean thumbs going crazy.

[C]

I had a BlackBerry back in the day that I really liked.

[B]

Oh, I used to play Brick breaker on my parents BlackBerry.

[A]

Nokia Snake on the original Nokia was. I can't believe you never did there. Oh, music. Oh, there's a website.

[C]

That's a lot. So many buttons.

[B]

What was your first cell phone?

[C]

It was a Motorola flip phone thing.

[B]

Nice.

[C]

And it like plugged it. It had Like a big battery pack.

[B]

Weighed two pounds and it like would.

[C]

You had to plug it into your fucking cigarette lighter in the car.

[A]

Oh my God.

[C]

To make it work. It was a mobile phone. It was like not a cell phone. It was a mobile phone.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You guys remember the one big brick looking ones from back like from Gecko.

[A]

Will Smith in Fresh Prince.

[C]

I never had one of those, but it's great. It's a great meme.

[A]

Anyway, there's this website called. I think it's save the sounds.info where it's just all these old sounds and they just like.

[C]

Oh, wow. That's very distinctive.

[A]

Yeah, like it's.

[C]

It was.

[B]

I want another one.

[A]

Nice. I want. They have.

[B]

I don't want some old rotary phone.

[A]

Save the sound, dude. They have all this great. Oh, wait. Cd.

[B]

I don't know that.

[A]

I don't know that one either. That's a weird one. Oh, hold on, hold on. Wait. Typewriter. Tk. You'll like this one.

[C]

Ah, that's the old message.

[B]

Aol.

[C]

That's AOL Instant messenger, right?

[A]

I don't know what that is. Okay, Shut the up. Okay.

[B]

That was another tab that DK had.

[A]

It is. It is. The site is the same site. And I hit. I don't even know what the this is, but now I know.

[B]

That was like a fucking Tim Robinson sketch right there.

[A]

No, it's not your fault.

[B]

It's not your fault.

[A]

Oh, God, look at that. Look, it's the website. Matt, I.

[C]

Okay, but what. What are you trying to tell us?

[B]

You're really going out of your way. We were just joking.

[C]

Did you. By the way, have you ever. Did you see the first episode of the Chair Company?

[B]

No.

[C]

It's so funny.

[B]

I can't wait.

[C]

Oh, my God. I watched it the other night.

[B]

Did you watch Friendship?

[C]

No, but I now I probably gotta watch.

[B]

The Friendship is really good.

[C]

I was like, probably the same mood or whatever. Oh, my God.

[A]

I resolved to watch Friendship in theaters and I missed it. Okay, I have. I want to read an email here. Great. Email here from Bob.

[C]

Bobby. Bobby be Bone.

[B]

Robert.

[A]

So breakfast is a banana followed by smoothie with goat milk, protein powder, creatine, spinach, chia seeds, Greek yogurt, frozen cherries, frozen blueberries, and then also two cups of coffee.

[B]

Toss that banana into the smoothie. Why is it so good?

[C]

I don't think it changes the consistency too much, I would say. Too much fiber, too fibrous.

[B]

I think the banana is kind of the foundation of all of sorts. Smoothies.

[C]

I think banana Ruins flavors of some things.

[A]

Probably wants a solid base and then a smoothie. So we were talking on Sunday, Craig was joking about how catchers should have stools. And so anyway, we were talking about. So anyway, Bobby, this is a great email. He says, I was listening to you guys talk about catchers and how they frame pitches. We were also about how like crazy it is that the entire job of catcher is just to trick the ump on every play. Like that's like the premise of way more of the premise of baseball than I think I ever think about is like every single pitch, the goal is to trick the fucking. In addition to get the batter not hit the ball. And Bob says, listening guys talk about pitch framing, I actually wanted to share some information about how these two things pitch framing. And Craig was saying crouching has changed. Catchers don't crouch anymore. What do you mean they don't crouch anymore? They go on a knee. The first 120 years of baseball, catchers would crouch. And then in the last like five years, all the catchers now go on one knee and they sploot like a golden doodle. Like they sploot. They have a knee and then they kick a leg out. And we will see tonight. You've never noticed it, but tonight I.

[B]

Can see it now.

[A]

They're on a knee.

[C]

Well, they. They crouch for a little while, but they almost. A lot of times they go. Go to one knee.

[B]

It finally came around. Cause it was ridiculous.

[A]

I'm talking 90 plus percent of P. 96% of catchers on 90 plus percent of pitches now. And I like. And so the. He. Bob included something that's called splooting. Well, no, I'm calling it splitting. Oh, but that's, you know what it is? They want a knee and they kick the other leg out. And so what is the word?

[B]

Split. Is that a real word?

[A]

Like dog sploot? You know, when a dog. Well, it's when a dog lays, you know, like, like, you know, the front paws are like this.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When they. The back legs also do that.

[B]

Like splayed out.

[A]

Yeah. It's like a sploot, you know, I've.

[B]

Never heard that word.

[C]

He made it up, I think.

[A]

I don't think. Yeah, yeah. Actually, yeah, I invented it. Yeah.

[B]

I've just, I don't. Are you being facetious? I've never heard that word.

[A]

Sploot. Maybe. I don't know. I guess it's not as popular as I thought. Anyway, the point is they just kind of kicked the leg out. It's a catcher sploot.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

So even five years ago, about a quarter of catchers were on a knee and three quarters of catchers were crouching.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

This season it was 96% of catchers just go on a knee coming around 96%. And I was so blown away by this fact that I texted Michael Bauman. Michael Bauman works at fangraphs. I texted him, I was like, why? What changed? And I was like, why do I. So before I say it, do you guys want to guess why they didn't? There's two potential answers.

[C]

Maybe it's better for picking off at first.

[B]

The pitch clock made it tough to kind of crouch and stand up so many times.

[A]

So the theoretical answers. The theoretical answer for 120 years was like, oh, well, it'll be harder to do wild pitches and all this stuff. Like, oh, like the wild pitches will get by more. And they did the data. It's not even close to the true. It's just the same as it was in 1960. And I said. And I was like, I think I know the answer here. Did they think if you were on a knee, you were like a little bitch?

[B]

It's like the granny shot. Yeah.

[A]

They're like, oh, so you look like a bitch if you stop resting, stop resting back there. It's exactly what it is. They just thought you were like, a bitch. It was lame if you had to go on a knee. It is so much easier to frame pitches on one knee. It is. They are. There's all these numbers here. I won't bore you, but like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, so many.

[B]

Because you have so much more balance on your foundation that you can, I feel like, have so much more control with your mitt.

[C]

You can, like, hold it in one spot.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You're not like, throw runners out.

[B]

Yeah. So that's so funny.

[A]

One of the reasons pitchers are so much better now, it's not all these other reasons of, like, obviously, you know, there's more specialization. Like, they're guys are. You know, they're using all this data to measure, like, revolutions. They're getting RPMs and the spin rates. It's like pitchers are going faster than ever. They're throwing harder than ever. The balls are spinning more than ever. But part of it's also all the catchers are better at pitch framing now because they don't crouch anymore.

[B]

Interesting.

[A]

But what's funny to me about this is it took them 120 years to stop crouching.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like Billy Beane 20 years after Moneyball. They were like, maybe don't crouch.

[B]

Old habits die hard.

[A]

So anyway, Bauman, just how I learned. So wait, so. So then Bow.

[B]

Even Billy Bean was like, nah, that's kind of a bitch move.

[A]

So I have my limits. So I texted Bauman. I was like, wait, so they just were, like, too proud? Like, no one.

[B]

Who was the first splitter?

[A]

Well, I. It was.

[B]

He was the trailblazer.

[A]

Drew Dingler. Well, there's another. He was like, yeah, you know, it's like hockey and the goalies. I was like, what? Any text? I'm just going to read verbatim a text he sent me. He said, yeah, yeah, like, you know, hockey. I was like, what are you talking about? He's like, oh, okay. So here's the deal. Until 1986, goalies and hockey played standing up. And then Patrick Roy came into the league and won the Stanley cup as a rookie. And he. Because he realized that if you just start with your legs splayed out on the ground and your pads up, you just don't have a giant hole between your legs.

[C]

Patrick Wa.

[A]

Patrick. Oh, is it spelled roi? Okay, I was. Come on. I was never gonna get that right. I don't know if that.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Anyway, I'm sure people judges, judges.

[C]

Austin doesn't know either.

[B]

None of these people watch, but, dude.

[A]

So this is how goalies stood. This is how goalies defended the net for, like, years. They stood like this.

[B]

Look at this.

[A]

They stood like this. So I'll make it bigger. They just stood with a giant fucking hole between their legs. This is how goalies played for decades.

[C]

Hit it here.

[A]

And then Patrick Roy was like, wow, whatever. Was like, I got an idea.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I just. I couldn't. I was blown away by that. They just stood up with this giant fucking hole between their legs.

[C]

Austin confirmed. It's wa.

[A]

Patrick Wa. Okay, how's he gonna get that?

[B]

I mean, it's French.

[C]

It's fine.

[B]

But. But, I mean, goalies stand up most of the game. It's only when people get close, they get down on their knees.

[A]

Yes. Right.

[C]

They're also incredibly flexible.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But they are mostly standing still, right?

[A]

Yeah. But goalies.

[B]

So it's when things get chaotic, they kind of, like, hunker down.

[A]

Hockey has. I won't pretend to know about. I know even less about hockey than soccer. But hockey has their own version of, like, you know, like, NBA has this existential thing right now with threes and, like, you know, Kurt Goldsberry here at the Ringer had a great point about this Last season, the first year there was like more missed theories than missed twos. The hockey version of that is all the goalies are physically larger now. So they're like 6, 7 now instead of normal sized people. They're all like, you know, small forwards but they also all are wearing larger equipment so like function like they're all wearing giant equipment. Like the pads are like 3 times size larger than the 6, 7 person needs. They're like 7 foot 2 guys fitted for 6, 7. So functionally speaking, the goalie is. Oh, 6.

[B]

I only did it because I saw Austin.

[A]

I did the six, seven. God damn it.

[C]

We got it. I want to get Kai on here to, to explain six, seven.

[B]

We don't have to do it down and be like there's nothing to explain.

[A]

It's. It's the first thing that made me really feel really old of like I don't even get what's funny. And they're like, there's nothing to get. And I'm like, but then why do you laugh? I feel like there is something to.

[C]

Get they're just not telling us.

[A]

Anyway, the goal got smaller in hockey because the pads got bigger and the goal. What guys are. You know what? No one cares.

[B]

They should make the.

[C]

No, it is. That is pretty interesting. The old, the old picture. No, the old picture of him just standing.

[A]

He's just so good standing there.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How did no one right through the wickets every time.

[C]

God damn it.

[B]

It's just Bill Buckner over and over.

[A]

I just can't believe that they were just standing up.

[B]

That pose is hilarious. This guy just got a gaping hole.

[A]

Between like someone's just like. I got an idea. I can't get over this. You stop it.

[C]

That's a terrifying. I mean I'm intimidated by it.

[B]

He looks like Michael Myers.

[A]

I can't believe that they would actually try.

[B]

No. Who's the hockey mask? What guy?

[A]

Michael Myers? No, no, no, no, it's Jason.

[B]

Jason.

[A]

Yeah. Anyway, yeah, so I thought that was really. That was quite. I didn't know any of that.

[B]

Neither did I. I didn't know that.

[C]

I didn't know that. About the, the catcher thing that is interesting though in. Because there's. I mean there's evolutions in every sport. Like the Euro step is relatively new. I'm sure there's a lot of basketball thing like moves or whatever that are relatively new.

[A]

The baseball thing I think is funny because it took 12 decades to be like, just don't crouch. That's stupid. Also. Oh, and also I even mentioned that all the catchers can play more now because it doesn't hurt your knees. Yeah.

[C]

That's interesting.

[A]

So much better on wear and tear.

[B]

So spiritually, my stool idea.

[A]

You were 100% right. And they're already doing it all changed in the last five years.

[C]

They just need a squatty potty.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. Let them go the bathroom out there.

[C]

Okay. So yeah, that's interesting. Just a nice cute little stool out there.

[A]

The other one I got. This one's from T Bone.

[C]

Okay. T Bone.

[B]

T Bone.

[C]

T Bone.

[A]

We asked for to basically just stories about being assholes in high school.

[B]

Oh, yeah, right.

[A]

So T Bone writes.

[C]

No. Being assholes. Yeah.

[A]

When T Bone writes. Or dumb shit we did in high school. What do you want to call it? T bone writes. When I was in high school, my friend group decided it was just open season on nut shots.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

And this was a tacit agreement that we all had.

[C]

I don't think that. I don't like that.

[B]

I hate.

[A]

No. And it's like if you got hit in the nuts, then it was just all your fault for not reacting.

[C]

Are we talking about like punching or just like. Like a little thwack? Yeah.

[A]

The. So he's like. T Bone's like. So I decided the joke would be on them. And I wore my football cup under my pants for a year.

[C]

I feel like the joke's still on him.

[B]

You know, it's funny you say that he objectively lost.

[A]

He says, not sure who ended up the winner. Me. Just wore a cup to school for a very long time.

[C]

But also like, think about. People are like, whoa, this guy's got a huge bulge.

[B]

Maybe it played up.

[A]

So he. Mike Goodman.

[C]

This guy's packing and he's packing a Nissan.

[B]

He paid off for the old T Bone.

[A]

I.

[B]

He literally was like home T bone for nothing.

[C]

40 ounce steak in there water.

[B]

That is fucking brutal.

[A]

He says, yeah, I wore.

[C]

He literally wear like a. Did he wear like a jock strap every day?

[B]

Probably.

[A]

He's like, I work up to school for a whole year. And then just so one time my friend tried to nutshot me and he hurt his hand little bit.

[B]

And then they made fun of T for the next six months.

[A]

The whole time. What are you doing? That's crazy.

[B]

That is crazy.

[A]

Psychotic, man.

[B]

He must have really been going through it to have to resort to a cup.

[A]

But this is what it does when you're in the nutshots are open. I hate the nutshot culture. That was too far for me.

[B]

Of course.

[A]

Like, that's Just, it. It affects your, like, psychology.

[C]

Like, the anchorman thing. Men are just not the face.

[B]

Well, I remember one time, my friends and I, we went to a cabin, and I don't remember what the girls were doing, but the guys just all. We were bored. We sat down in the living room. We all just sat in a circle, like, on our butts with, like, our legs, like, spread out. And we had, like. I don't know if it was a tennis ball, some type of ball, and all we would do was just lob it and try to land it on your buddy's nuts. And we just did that for, like, a couple hours.

[A]

Yeah, it was a great two hours.

[C]

This was before the Internet.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah. Now you just.

[B]

Sadly, it wasn't.

[A]

I know.

[C]

Very much like your version of a darkness retreat.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah, dude. We. My friends and I joke about all the time. We start. We send each other things where it's like, men are so dumb. Only they could come up with this.

[C]

Well, there's the, like, the filling of the cup thing.

[A]

Yeah, we should do that. Sounds fun.

[C]

Yeah, the.

[A]

The what? Yeah, the cup.

[C]

So basically, the. The game is you fill a cup until it's like an inch left or whatever in the cup, and then you have to, like, turn it on real quick. Turn it on off.

[A]

What I want to do is the.

[C]

Last person who spills it over the.

[A]

Water bottle to the ceiling fan. And we all have blindfolds on.

[B]

See that?

[C]

That one Craig is out on.

[B]

I love that one.

[C]

I keep trying to get us to do it.

[A]

I want to do it.

[C]

It's really fun.

[A]

These guys do with, like, buckets of, like, paint, like, balloon.

[C]

No, I'm not doing that, dude.

[B]

My friends and I, we rented out a house, like, on the beach one weekend, and we go. And the first thing we do when we get there, my buddy brought, like, a electrolyte powder thing. It was shaped like a hockey puck, basically. And he just sets it down on the counter and slides it across the counter. And we were like, oh, I bet you can't get that to hang over the edge of the counter. We did that the entire weekend.

[C]

All the men in the room were like, wait a minute, I hear something.

[B]

Yes. We call it the electrolyte slide.

[A]

We play it all the time. This is.

[C]

Remember I. I sent you guys. The guys, like, doing one bounce across the kitchen counter.

[B]

A ping pong table. Yeah. Or a counter.

[C]

Well, it was like, whatever. It can be like a kitchen island. One, then two, one, then two, then three bounces and four Bounces. And they're like locked in by the time you get to seven there. This is the greatest moment when the.

[B]

When the energy grid shuts everything down. Dude, we'll be fine.

[A]

Dude, we, we talked.

[C]

Well, we'll die, but, like, it'll be fun.

[A]

Someone emailed us in and like, they tell the story of like, they just like to go to a cabin and they just drink on the porch and they just like put some of the cans on the road and they put one can on a road and then every time the car. A car drives by, they're just like, like hits the can. They're like, can. And they sit there for like 10 hours and there's like an hour, like.

[C]

Can legitimately sounds fun.

[B]

Send us emails of like the dumb shit that you turned into a beloved game in your friend group.

[A]

Yes, email us those games.

[B]

It's awesome.

[A]

I remember when you said that you basically fishing, you could put women in a house.

[C]

Totally.

[A]

I remember when you played that game, the electrolyte slide, for the first time. You were like, women could be in this house for 10,000 years and that would never, never come.

[B]

They would never do it. And that's literally because they're smarter than us, right?

[C]

Exactly. Because it is dumb.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

The ocean was over there. We were like, no, see, I told you.

[A]

I was like. At the bachelor party in Denver and the perfect weather. It was like 74 degrees and sunny every day except for the one day we're going to skydive and it rain, but like it was sunny day. And the basement, this windowless concrete basement, had a shuffleboard table. And on this beautiful day in Denver, we just got a 30 rack of beers and just played shuffleboard for five hours. And Jackie texted me at one point, what are you doing? And I like, stare at the phone and I'm like. And I look right at the beach. I'm like, of course. Yeah. I'm like, 10 guys in a basement on the perfect weather day. I'm like, we're at a strip club.

[C]

Yeah, sounds that.

[A]

Actually I. I felt like, oh, yeah, that sounds right.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Okay, so the last thing here before we get out of here. Carl. So we've obviously talked a lot about Oreos in the past. The little freaks.

[B]

Yeah, Little freaks.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

So what are these little freaks up to, Carlos?

[B]

We've never had an Oreo sponsor, have we?

[C]

No, not yet.

[B]

Come on, Oreo.

[A]

I know they said no free ads, but we're in fact going to do a free ad right now. Oreo. Carlos brought his favorite Color, flavor of Oreo. Oreo white, fudge covered.

[C]

Wow.

[B]

I've never had one of these.

[A]

Yeah, I want, like, a hat on a hat. Carlos actually brought this for us today, and I thought he just brought him in for himself.

[B]

He's like, no, I got it for you guys.

[A]

Like, that is so sweet. It was really nice.

[B]

Lovely. I love Oreos.

[A]

So, yeah, we'll try them. Yeah, I think they're like. I try to.

[B]

Sometimes when you take it out of.

[C]

The bag, you're like, wait.

[B]

It's like seeing it naked. It looks better in the packaging. You know what I mean?

[A]

I know exactly.

[C]

You ever seen one? It's like, yeah, on its own.

[A]

All right, so we'll try this. So white.

[C]

Yeah. So what is this?

[A]

White fudge covered, Little freaks. Oreos.

[B]

I can't. I think there's no scenario in which this is bad.

[A]

Yeah. Shall we?

[C]

Unless you're allergic.

[A]

We should take a last stage.

[B]

No, there's. These are vegan. Well, the regular Oreos.

[A]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[C]

So, like, I was eating these because it's, like, the only thing that was.

[A]

I don't know what that.

[B]

I don't know. The fudge, maybe. The fudge is not vegan. Yeah. It's obviously great. It's basically just like if they. They took an Oreo and just surrounded it with filling as well.

[A]

Instead of dipping an Oreo and milk, they dipped in, like, liquid white chocolate.

[C]

The only thing I have. The only problem I have with this because it is delicious, is you can't do, like, the certain ways that you would eat an Oreo where you, like, maybe twist it off or whatever, which is fine.

[A]

Here's a real challenge. The only.

[B]

This is so good.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

Oreo might be my favorite flavor on the planet.

[C]

If an Oreo box is in my house, it'll be gone in, like, 24 hours.

[A]

So, yeah, it's great. I'll give this, like, honestly, like, like an 8.8. Like, it's pretty great. I will say Oreo one. Sponsors, please. Here's my one thing. The Oreo Whatever person came up with the resealable Oreo package was, like, that was a pioneer. Like, the idea that you could open it and reseal it.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

That was amazing. My only issue with these is, look what we have now. I know. Which is now we have, like, this, like, carton, it looks like.

[B]

So you're factoring that into the.

[C]

Oh, it's actually good because then you have to eat it.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The score is just about the taste.

[C]

But you Feel an urgency to eat it.

[A]

Yeah, that's a huge problem.

[C]

No, it's not good for you. They're making money. It's like printing money.

[B]

Oh, white fudge.

[A]

Is that. No, that's how.

[B]

Just here's the thing.

[C]

The goal is to sell as many as possible.

[A]

That's a good point.

[B]

Yeah, I like that. Here it says enlarged to show detail.

[A]

Legal, vegan.

[C]

Should I have taken the lawyers got together.

[A]

Should I have taken a lactate for this sugar? I'm not gonna read the ingredients. We won't get sponsored. White fudge covered up does contain milk. I have another lactic.

[B]

That one little guy will screw you up like that.

[A]

No, we don't want to know.

[C]

Don't ask questions you won't don't want the answer.

[B]

Contains milk, wheat and soy.

[A]

See? Lactate. You haven't sponsored me, so look at this. I have the store brand lactate because you didn't sponsor me.

[B]

Damn, that was good. On the Oreo scale. That's up there. Yeah.

[A]

There we go.

[B]

8.8. I'm right there.

[A]

That's good.

[C]

Thanks, Carlos.

[A]

Yeah, we should. Yeah. Thank you, Carlos. That was really extremely nice of you, Carlos. I just brought in order. Thank you, Carlos.

[C]

He brought us treats.

[A]

Thank you for listening. We're gonna power hour this week. We will. If the Mariners win, we're gonna have a very glorious opening to the show. The Mariners lose, we'll see if we have actually wrangled DK to talk about it. If not. Going home.

[B]

Back tonight.

[C]

Nice.

[A]

I'm not kidding. I don't know if we'll get them if they lose. So thank you DK in advance for contributing to the show on Wednesday. Thank you to Craig. Thank you, Carlos, for bringing us auras. That was wild. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, Kai. Thank you. Wanna thank you, ct. Thank you everyone here for making the show. Thank you everyone in LA and core week. It's really fun and we have multiple shows left here. Email [e-mail] for stories about high school. And email.

[B]

Stupid Friend Games.

[A]

Stupid friend games. Scam parents. I don't know, whatever. Anything. Email us about all those things. But the Stupid Friend games is really funny.

[C]

I love that.

[A]

And mainly so I can steal them.

[B]

From my own Stupid Friend Weekends.

[A]

Rankings for. I know, Rankings for Thursday football, fantasy football.thermor.com love rankings there. We update them Sunday mornings as well. And of course. Thank you, Lord.

[B]

Lord.

[C]

Thank you, Shania Twain.

[B]

Man, dude.

[A]

Not doing it well. I just started.

[C]

Let's go, girl.

[A]

Rob Parvilla had the funniest 60 songs to explain the 90s. Great podcast here at the Ringer. And he starts out with how Shania's, among other things, the goat of, like, punctuation and grammar and song titles.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Exclamation points, parentheses. Like, she's got it all. Like, she can do everything, Man.

[B]

I Feel Like a Woman is one of the most underrated, like, bar dance songs all time.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It gets the entire crowd going.

[A]

It's. I actually.

[C]

It's good for everyone.

[A]

It is a one second song challenge is like a curse thing for us now because DK's look really mad. We still.

[B]

Oh, we should do that tomorrow in person. That's similar. It's way easier to do it in person.

[A]

Yeah. If the man is loose, it'll cheer you up. We'll do that. Jesus. I'll.

[B]

I'll be the judge. You two sitting right here? I got the laptop up O. We're doing that.

[A]

Yeah. We should do. But. So my point being, winner gets a.

[B]

Winner gets a fudge Oreo.

[A]

One of the things I've been interested in is what is the ultimate one second song? Like the song that the most people could identify in one second. And I kind of think the. Like, I think that might. It would just be number one.

[B]

It's been. That one's big.

[A]

That's. I know. But that's also a song where some people know it but can't necessarily.

[B]

It might be a little bit niche of a song.

[C]

I Feel like a Woman.

[A]

She's got a comma, exclamation point.

[C]

No, there's no comma. Oh, no, man. Exclamation. I feel like a woman. Exclamation.

[A]

That's wild.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

No, that's like nothing I've ever seen.

[B]

Shania's man shirt, short skirt.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Totally crazy.

[A]

Man.

[B]

That's good. Shania. Shania never lost it.

[C]

Imagine trying to, like, come up with that hook that. What is that? What even. What?

[B]

You remember that other song. That Don't Impress Me much.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

So you're Brad Pitt.

[C]

So you're Tom Cruise.

[A]

So you're a rocket scientist. Yes, you're Brad Pitt. That don't impress me. Yeah, that's pretty good.

[B]

Good times.

[C]

She's like, talking about keeping me warm through the long, cold nights or something like that Jackie loves.

[B]

But that won't keep me warm in the middle of the night.

[A]

Yeah, it's good stuff.

[B]

The so you. So what is it? So you own a car. It starts. Really?

[A]

So you're Brad Pitt? I'm like, that's escalating. Jesus Christ. If you're Brad Pitt.

[C]

I think it does impress me.

[B]

Not good enough.

[A]

Super impressed by Brad Pitt.

[B]

Yeah, me too.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

How can you not be that jawline? Come on.

[A]

Do you think we could ever get Shania on the show?

[B]

No shot now.

[A]

I know. I was thinking that as well. Yeah, I was hoping.

[B]

No way.

[C]

Rocket scientist is the first one. I feel like.

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

She starts scientist. When does the car to Brad Pitt? The order is crazy.

[B]

Car one's got to be first.

[A]

No, it's rocket science. And it's like you want a car and then it's like, so you're Brad Pitt.

[B]

Rocket scientist to car to Brad Pitt.

[C]

Okay, so you got a car, like in the. Like second to last.

[A]

They kind of random ideas.

[C]

She's like, hold on, I'm lowering the bar.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

So you don't. You don't have to take the bus. That doesn't impress me. This is weird. Okay, so you got a car. I didn't actually remember.

[B]

That was a lot. I have a car.

[A]

She probably meant like a good car, but she didn't. She could have been clearer.

[B]

It doesn't matter how good the car is.

[C]

So what do you think you're Elvis or something?

[B]

Cuz she. Cuz he has a car. No, that's in the.

[C]

That's in the song.

[A]

Oh, my God. I was in the.

[C]

You think you're Elvis or something?

[A]

Wait. I was at the Country Music hall of Fame in Nashville earlier this year, and I saw like, Elvis's car. And it's crazy. Yeah, it was amazing.

[B]

Why?

[A]

It was just like. It was just this, like, deck that. It was like a Rolls Royce and it was unbelievable. Like I. That guy that was living, he was living. But the car is unbelievable.

[B]

Until his last day, he was living.

[A]

I actually don't know how many cars in America could be cooler than Elf. I was like, that specific car might be one of the craziest cars you could own. Did Joe Burrow cancel the Batmobile order? Which was too bad.

[C]

He did.

[A]

Yeah. Cuz. Well, ever since they made fun of.

[C]

Him too much or what?

[A]

Well, that too. I think the. I think he didn't like the attention because when, you know, his house got broken into and then he started wearing.

[B]

A cup for the year because he was so nervous about it.

[A]

So worried about Miles Garrett. But I guess the dumb can sue, really. But the. Because he, you know, house got broken into. And then it turned out that his assistant was actually just this model who's dating and they didn't want to be public. And then the 911 call was leaked. He was like, damn, 911 calls can leak the. That's kind of. And so he was like, I guess a Batmobile will draw more attention to me. So he did not get it.

[B]

How much was it? Was it reported? I don't know.

[A]

But how much would you pay for a Batmobile?

[B]

If I have Joe Burrow's money and I really.

[A]

We were saying, what should the winner of the Ringer 107 bet get?

[B]

Bill has to buy the bat.

[A]

Buys us a Batmobile.

[B]

If I had Joe Burrow's money and I really wanted the Batmobile, I would probably spend $2 million on it.

[A]

I. I respect. I'm like, yeah, if you have $275 million, what the fuck else you need to do?

[C]

I would, but I wouldn't want a Batmobile.

[B]

But you have to be clear. Put yourself in the headspace that you really want it.

[A]

Yeah. You really want it. I would, yeah.

[C]

Thinking about that. Yeah. Okay. Okay, here's what, 0,500K at the most.

[A]

I agree. I think. I mean, he's got three couple million bucks. Yeah. I mean, do you think. Do you think Bill would get us a Batmobile for the winner? The winner of the contest?

[B]

Not if he gets last. Yeah, no, he needs to, like, get third or something. Bill might win this week, though.

[A]

If it gets last. We let him out of the punishment. If he gets the winner.

[B]

About deal. Bill has JSN tonight. Needs a big JSN night.

[C]

All right. Oh, yeah, the Seahawks are playing. That's right.

[B]

Big night for you. Big night for Seattle.

[C]

Can't look, can't watch.

[A]

All right, we're going to go. Okay.

[C]

Scared.

[A]

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