Week 9 Recap: Deadly Darnold, Colts Collapse, Pathetic Packers, Bowers is Back, and Abe Lincoln Collinsworth

Summary

The Ringer Fantasy Football Show — Week 9 Recap

Episode: Deadly Darnold, Colts Collapse, Pathetic Packers, Bowers is Back, and Abe Lincoln Collinsworth
Release Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, Craig Horlbeck

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Episode Overview

This week, Danny Heifetz, Danny Kelly, and Craig Horlbeck recap a wild, eventful Sunday in Week 9 of the NFL fantasy season. The crew explores the dominating performance of Sam Darnold with the Seahawks, the utter collapse of the Colts, embarrassing losses by the Packers, the triumphant return of Brock Bowers, and the delightful oddities of NFL names past and present. Along the way, they dive into fantasy trends, rookie breakouts, and a deep appreciation for chaotic, high-scoring football. The episode is lively, fast-paced, and filled with memorable tangents and on-the-fly analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Notable Segments

1. Seahawks Dominate Behind Sam Darnold’s Perfection

[02:00–08:30]

• The crew starts recording during the Seahawks-Washington game because it’s so lopsided.
• Sam Darnold: 16/16 in the first half, 282 yards and 4 TDs; first player in 10 years with 4 TDs and no incompletions in a half.
  • “Sam Darnold is playing awesome and it’s really fun to watch as a Seahawks fan.” — Craig Horlbeck [03:27]
• JSN (Jackson Smith-Njigba): First Seahawk ever with four straight 100-yard games.
• Torrey Horton (rookie): Emerging as a key weapon, “He’s gonna be a really, really good player.” — Craig [07:22]
• Seahawks pass out of heavy personnel, mimicking a run-first look but are a pass-centric team.
  • “They’re like cosplay as a team that’s good at running. They look like they're going to run the ball, but they really don’t.” — Heifetz [08:44]

2. Washington in Crisis

[09:22–11:15]

• Two straight primetime blowouts; key players injured, season feels lost.
• Jaden Daniels injury: Suffered a gruesome elbow injury late; questions about why he was still in the game.
• Despite hopelessness, at least fans have certainty at quarterback ... before getting hurt.
  • “Even if the season's over, the one thing you want as a fan… is I want to know we have our guy at quarterback.” — Heifetz [11:03]

3. Chris Collinsworth’s Abe Lincoln Revelation

[11:41–13:57]

• During a Seahawks broadcast, Chris Collinsworth shares his father’s name: Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth, prompting hilarity.
  • “My dad was Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth.”—Collinsworth via Heifetz [12:02]
• The segment devolves into an improvised Gettysburg Address in Collinsworth’s voice, a surreal pod high point.
  • “Four score and seven years ago…” — “Chris Collinsworth” (Craig) [13:57]

4. Buffalo Bills: Literal but Not Spiritual Winners over Chiefs

[15:05–19:01]

• Bills beat Chiefs again, but the guys debate whether it really “means anything” given Kansas City’s playoff superiority.
  • “Does this win mean anything? No, probably not.” — Craig [16:05]
• Josh Allen breaks Bills completion percentage record; Mahomes has career-low.
• Chiefs’ O-line woes; Mahomes pressured all night.
• Rashee Rice continues to impress as KC’s best receiver.

5. Steelers Defense Returns, Colts Implode

[19:10–24:34]

• Steelers “handled” the Colts; defense amasses 6 takeaways (Colts had 4 all season before).
• Daniel Jones “catastrophic” with three picks, multiple fumbles.
  • “As soon as we completely write off the Steelers, you should bet on them.” — Danny Kelly [20:59]
• Discussion about QBs (Jones, Darnold, Caleb Williams, Mac Jones) who thrive in system...until adversity.
  • “When the playoffs roll around, I don’t trust any of them.” — Heifetz [24:04]

6. Bengals-Bears: Scenic Route to an All-Time Shootout

[26:20–33:11]

• Bears beat Bengals 47–42: one of the “craziest games of the year.”
• Joe Flacco’s career day: 470 yards, 4 TDs, first-ever 40+ QB to hit those numbers.
  • Bengals storm back from 14 down in final 3 minutes but still lose.
• Cincinnati’s defense shredded again, raising serious fantasy and real-world alarm.
  • “It was a strip club of a game.” — Craig [27:58]
• Flacco acquisition by Bengals said to be “franchise malpractice” by Browns.
  • “It is un-American. Trading to your division rival is unsportsmanlike.” — Heifetz and Kelly [34:44]

7. Rookie Breakouts: Caleb Williams, Colston Loveland, Kyle Monangai

[36:07–39:18]

• Caleb Williams: “By far the best fantasy quarterback of the day,” including a TD catch on a Philly Special.
• Colston Loveland: “Game-winning, 50-yard TD...now you get why they took him 10th.”
• Kyle Monangai: Looks better than DeAndre Swift, explosive as the Bears’ backup RB.
  • “Two rookies maturing in front of our eyes—a debutante ball daily double.” — Heifetz [38:45]

8. Vikings: J.J. McCarthy Is… So Back?

[39:18–44:22]

• Vikings secure huge win behind rookie McCarthy, who shows poise and late-game heroics.
  • “It was pretty like ice in his veins.” — Kelly [40:36]
• Minnesota “back in the playoff hunt”; NFC North wide open.
• “He just looked more confident, no deer in the headlights… He was stepping into throws.” — Craig [41:50]

9. Packers: The Method Acting Disaster

[61:09–67:33]

• Packers lose to Panthers in “ode to 1923” uniforms.
• Offense scores just 13 despite not punting; Jordan Love’s miscues reach low point.
  • “The Packers have now lost to the Browns and the Panthers. Is this a farter or a shart?” — Heifetz [61:44]
• Historic futility: “First time in franchise history losing as 13+ point favorites.”

Notable Quote:

“There’s something off with this team… the whole is less than the sum of the parts.”
— Danny Kelly [62:05]

10. Name Time: 1923 Packers Roster

[68:08–70:56]

• Craig reads off actual names from early rosters: Cub Buck, Jug Earp, Cowboy Wheeler, Moose Gardner.
  • “Would you rather be named Cub Buck or Jug Earp?” — Heifetz [70:17]

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Highlighted Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Collinsworth’s dad:
  “My dad was Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth… I googled it. That’s correct.” — Heifetz [12:02]
• On Bengals/Cardiac Game:
  “It was a strip club of a game… is this team actually good, or does the stripper just actually like you?” — Craig [27:58, 36:07]
• On Shohei Ohtani’s English:
  “I think that motherfucker speaks perfect English.” — Kelly [115:15]
  “Thank you guys… That was a little too smooth.” — Heifetz [116:08]
• Gettsyburg Address:
  “Four score and seven years ago…” — “Collinsworth” [13:57]
• Farter/Shart on Rome Odunze collapse:
  “He’s just been farting for a month but no need to go to the doctor.” — Heifetz [59:23]

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Fantasy “Who’s Cooking?” & Breakouts

[47:10–52:55]

• Drake London: 3 TDs, >120 yards; “absolutely cooking.”
  • “He plays basketball at WR more than anyone I can remember.” — Heifetz [47:27]
• Brock Bowers: 3 TDs after injury return; “clearly the best TE in the league” [51:45]
• Matt Stafford: 21 TD, 2 INT; “Why isn’t he in the MVP conversation?” [53:28]
• Other notables:
  • Manangai and Loveland “debutante ball daily double” [38:45]

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Fantasy “Burn Book” Update

[117:53–120:49]

• This week’s burned: Bill Merritt (RB) — constantly disappointing managers with a rollercoaster season; “He’s the first person we’ve burned in a long time I actually feel bad about doing it.” — Kelly [120:40]
• Previous entries: Jalen Waddle, Mark Andrews, Isaiah Pacheco, Calvin Ridley, Travion Henderson, Tony Pollard, Justin Fields, Alvin Kamara

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Farter/Shart: Rome Odunze, Packers & More

[57:01–67:33]

• Is Rome Odunze’s October collapse a fart or shart? Injury, drops, and blocking duties, but still a good player.
• Packers’ loss: “It feels more like a shart to me because they keep letting bad teams hang around. That could be a fatal flaw.” — Craig [61:53]

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Intrusive Thoughts, Announcer Notes, Socks & Life Tangents

[74:06–97:22]

• Intrusive Thought: “Joe Burrow—system QB?” “Things that make you go ‘Hmm.’”
• Extended debate on fantasy football scoring (should 2-pt conversions be worth 2 pts?).
• Extended (and highly relatable) tangent on the correct way to wear socks and dress.
  • “I feel like I still have no idea how to wear socks, like in society.” — Kelly [94:15]

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The Dodgers’ World Series Win: The Pulse of the Bar

[98:14–117:06]

• Craig shares the “stadium pulse” from a Dodger bar during Game 7: “best baseball game I’ve ever watched.”
• Debrief of classic, chaotic Game 7 moments: Kike-Paez collision, Miguel Rojas HR, Will Smith’s ‘plate block’, an emotional high for baseball lovers.
  • “Sometimes you just know who you want (to win)... your body tells you.” — Heifetz [100:41]
• Segue to “Ohtani definitely speaks perfect English” conspiracy and use of interpreter as a filibuster.

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Announcer Nuggets

[87:51–89:07]

• Tom Brady’s “one, two, three” throw system for QBs explained at length on the broadcast.
  • “A one throw is a laser, a two throw is a layered throw… a three is a rainbow…” — Craig [87:51]

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Final Thoughts

The pod is jammed with insights about fantasy breakouts, collapses, and the shifting narratives of NFL teams. The gang mixes deep fantasy analysis with lighter moments, from old-timey Packers names to rituals around socks and showering habits. Listeners get a complete and highly entertaining understanding of Week 9—why certain box scores happened, who’s for real, which injuries matter, and which performances “don’t move me at all.” Chaos and humor are embraced throughout, with enough running gags and memorable quotes to keep serious and casual fantasy managers alike engaged all week.

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Timestamps for Highlighted Segments

• Seahawks/Darnold Domination: 02:00–08:30
• Washington Meltdown / Jaden Daniels’ Injury: 09:22–11:15
• Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth / Gettysburg Address: 11:41–13:57
• Bills-Chiefs Dissection: 15:05–19:01
• Steelers Crush Colts: 19:10–24:34
• Bengals-Bears Wildness/Flacco Debrief: 26:20–33:11
• Fantasy Breakouts (Caleb, Loveland, Monangai): 36:07–39:18
• J.J. McCarthy and Vikings: 39:18–44:22
• Packers Humiliation / 1923 Names: 61:09–70:56
• Fantasy “Who’s Cooking?” Drake/Bowers: 47:10–52:55
• Burn Book — Bill Merritt: 117:53–120:49
• Life & Socks Segment: 94:15–97:22
• Dodgers’ Game 7 Bar Pulse: 98:14–117:06

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Closing Note

The Week 9 recap is essential for both frustrated and optimistic fantasy managers. The energy is high, the jokes are flying, and the takes are both spicy and practical—a perfect snapshot of football fandom in the heart of the fantasy season.

Transcript

[Danny Kelly]

Foreign welcome to the Ringer fantasy football show. My name is Danny Hyperts and I'm joined by Danny Kelly, Craig Korlbeck and we are going over all the games from Sunday of week nine. We're gonna hit all the games except Giant Snyders. I kind of refuse to talk about that one. At the end of the show, Craig talks about the timeless classic underdog story that was the Los Angeles Dodgers winning the World Series.

[Danny Hyperts]

An unbelievable game. And serious.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it's great. Just, it's a great underdog story. Maybe you guys have heard of it. Do that at the end of the show. Earlier in the show Craig is going to at some point there's a Gettysburg address will come up. You'll figure that out soon. And yeah, this was really fun. And we actually started recording the show during Seahawks Washington because it was so uncompetitive that we just, we're like, we're not going to wait for the end of this game. Let's get to Sunday of week nine. But first, let's take a quick break. This episode is presented by Chime Bank Smarter. This season, fantasy football is all about strategy. Well, here's a winning strategy for your money Trade banking fees for fee free banking, 1.5% cash back getting paid when you say and a higher APY on your savings. That's the lineup that wins. Stop banking the old way. Bank Smarter through Chime. Chime is a financial technology company, not a bank. Banking services and the secured Chime Visa credit card provided by the Bancor Bank NA or Stride Bank NA members FDIC optional services and products may have fees or charges [e-mail] feesinfo with a qualifying direct deposit earn 1.5% cash back on eligible secured Chime Visa credit card purchases. APY means annual percentage yield. Learn [e-mail] let's do Sunday football here. DK we got to start with your team. Because Sam Darnold was so good in the first half, we literally decided to just start recording in the middle of the game. The game is not over.

[Danny Hyperts]

I wanted to record at halftime. I was like, this is, it's 31 to 7. Sam Donald hasn't incompleted a pass yet.

[Craig Korlbeck]

16 out of 16 in the first half. Four touchdowns. Yeah, he was basically perfect. 282 yards in the first half. JSN had over 100 yards in the first half. Also, he's the first Seahawk ever with four straight 100 yard games, which seems kind of wild. So yeah, the Seahawks are freaking rolling right now and the commanders are not.

[Danny Kelly]

Darnold first player with four touchdowns and no incompletions in the first half. In 10 years, Sam Darnold had never completed 15 straight passes at any point in the NFL start. He completed his first 16 in this game. Again, 282 yards and four touchdowns. At halftime, he had two touchdowns at 11 seconds because Washington botched a kickoff. Four touchdowns in 25 minutes. Darnold was amazing. I watched it. You know, it's funny, in a way, this reminds me of there was a Justin Fields Bears game. The best game Bear Fields has ever had as a passer. Honestly, it was against a different Ron Rivera depleted Washington team. I kept thinking of that game tonight. Cause I was like, wow, Darnold looks amazing. But dk, I mean, when Mike Tirico starts saying, why can't Darnold be in the MVP conversation? We're like, calm down. However, I do feel, and I have felt the entire summer, that the Seahawks are clearly the most underrated super bowl contender. I think Darnold is MVP is ridiculous. But you watch the Seahawks tonight, the combination of how he's playing like this with how good they are on defense, you're like, the Seahawks could absolutely win the nfc, couldn't they?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I mean, I think it's definitely in the realm of possibility. It makes me a little bit nervous because they cannot run the ball at all. It's like one of their main sticking points. But yeah, they're a good defense. Obviously their passing offense is been really, really good. Right now they're one of the top teams in dvoa. I'm guessing after this week they'll be the number one team in dvoa. So, you know, they good on offense, defense and special teams. Pretty, pretty balanced across the board. They, they kind of remind you a lot of the Vikings from last year where it's like, this team could win a bunch of games. But then you have Sam Darnold at quarterback in the playoffs and who knows what that's going to be. But at the end of the day, I'm not complaining. Like, Sam Darnold is playing awesome and it's really fun to watch as a Seahawks fan.

[Danny Hyperts]

I mean, they've lost two games by a combination of seven points this year. That's it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right?

[Danny Kelly]

And even the week one game versus the 49ers, like Tariq Woolen should have knocked down two different passes on that drive. The Niners came back the Bucks game. I mean, the Seahawks really could are a couple plays from being undefeated. Yeah, and you can say that about other teams, but Honestly, the Seahawks, it's really they're just been so competitive and again, there's so few teams that are good at every level. I know Ernest Jones got hurt tonight inside.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That makes me worried too.

[Danny Kelly]

It mattered. It's the same with the Ravens. Obviously the Ravens have more injuries, but at any the Mike McDonald Mike McDonald's done an unbelievable job as the coach of this team. Clint Kubia coming in as the offensive coordinator obvious has done an unbelievable job. I think in a way Darnold's playing better even than he was last year. I think Donald looks like a better and even more complete quarterback.

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[Craig Korlbeck]

I mean if you look at all the numbers, it's that's certainly true. Like the advanced stats, he's way more accurate. He's like way fewer turnover worthy plays. Everything that you look at in terms of just taking care of the football and explosive plays, I think I saw he has the most 20 yard passes completed this year. Yeah, it's crazy what he's doing.

[Danny Hyperts]

Even, even the big plays feel measured, like he's not ripping the ball in the sense of like he's taken shots. Baker, Mayfield, styles, even these deep, long, the 60 yard touchdown today, the JSN stuff, it all feels very calculated and smart. Even though it's big plays.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, they're getting, they're doing a great job of getting guys sort of one on one down the field. And then Darnold has a really accurate arm and he can layer the ball over a defender. We saw that on a play with Jason today where Jason basically just got lined up one on one with a guy And Darnold just threw it light, very softly over the guy's shoulder, right into his hands. And we see that like every single game now.

[Danny Kelly]

The best representation I think of Sam Darnold's season was, I forget, I can't even remember which first half touchdown it was. I think it was the third when I don't, I don't know what they ran. It looked like they just ran like four verts or whatever from like the 30 yard line. And he kind of layered it between two guys right into Elijah Arroyo's hands. The, the tight end of Miami they took for his first career touchdown. And then they cut on the other side, Jackson Smith, the jig, but was wide open for a touchdown. And just that is the Seahawks season. It's like you could, JSN is wide open to the right or Donald can just like rip a pass, just drop it in between two defenders on the left. Everything he's doing just seems like it's sitting. Also, Torrey Horton, the rookie receiver that you guys in Seattle has been obsessed with, has just, as you texted me earlier, old yellowed Cooper cup this season. Because Cooper cup did not play in this game. And frankly, I don't know, they don't really need him back.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I mean, the Cooper Cup's value probably comes from obviously just being a wily veteran and also he's a really good blocker and I think that's something they really value. So Cooper Cup's not, probably not going anywhere in terms of when he's healthy. But I mean, Tory Horton is clearly like a dangerous player. He's, he's got I think four or five touchdowns this year on part time usage. He's explosive down the field. He's a really good kick returner, punt returner. So I mean he's, he looks to me like he's going to be a really, really good player in the league. It kind of like that thing we talk about Craig, where it's like, you just know, are you like you. He. What is, what is it that you always say?

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like, I've seen enough.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, I've seen enough. That that's kind of how I feel toward. I've seen enough. He's going to be a good player in the league.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's funny, the, the Seahawks have a bunch of guys who just like catch touchdowns. It's like Jackson, Smith and Jigma gets all the yards and then there's just all these guys who just score touchdowns, like A.J. barner, Arroyo Horton. It's unbelievable. Like they, they're they're actually doing so much with a pretty limited, like, offensive skill group. Like they, they're running back.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Two rookies. Yeah, I mean, two rookies tonight had three touchdowns.

[Danny Hyperts]

Super young. It's like JSN obviously is exploding and it' in the NFL, but outside of that, like, they're really making it work. It's a lot of like, heavy sets, a lot of play action, and Darnold is dicing it up to all these kind of random guys that are emerging.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Well, that's what Greg Olson was tweeting that tonight. Basically, the Seahawks, they don't run. Like, they're not a very good run team coming to this game. They were dead last in success rate on the ground.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, they like cosplay as a team that's good at running. That makes you think we got to stop the run. And they look like they're going to run the ball, but they really don't.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's exactly what Greg Olson said. He's basically like they pass out of heavy personnel. They're a heavy personnel passing team, which is kind of cool and fun, but, and hopefully they can kind of get it figured out as the year goes on. Start to run with a little more efficiency, explosiveness. Tonight they've been running decently well. It feels like I don't know if the numbers are backing that up, but, but yeah, again, that would be to me, the biggest bugaboo is you. The, the best teams can kind of beat you in multiple ways and, and I would love it if their run game was a little more explosive. But for now, I'm obviously not complaining too much.

[Danny Kelly]

Like the early Ravens. We'll see if they fall behind, if they can still keep up. I would Washington, real quick, I will say this is two horrific primetime losses for Washington and back to back weeks. I know Jaden Daniels just came back, but I mean, between the Chiefs last week beat Washington 28 to 7 on Monday night Football. Sunday football now, I mean, the game is 38 to 7. I don't know what the final score will end up being, but that is a combined score of 66 to 14 in primetime in the last two weeks. Washington Season is not over, but it kind of feels a little over. Like Terry McLaurin has a setback with his quad. Luke McCaffrey goes out tonight. Noah Brown's hurt. They are frankly, all the younger guys are hurt. All the older guys are held like they are. The defense is obliterated. I mean, I, I, it might be, I, I want to, you know, Bill and Sal cross the team off every week. Watching this game tonight, I'm like, Washington just feels like a third tier NFC team.

[Danny Hyperts]

The thing, the thing about Washington to me is it's probably really hard to almost make the super bowl last year and then kind of have to take a step back and almost be like, we kind of need to rebuild a little bit. Reset.

[Danny Kelly]

Wait, Jen, Daniel's gotta hurt while we're talking, right?

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, is that right?

[Danny Kelly]

No, I'm asking.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Not good. Yes, he's hurt. He's writhing on the ground right now.

[Danny Kelly]

Get the out. Oh, well, it was 38 to 7, so, you know, this is, I think.

[Danny Hyperts]

His elbow the wrong way.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, yeah, that is not good.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's his non throwing elbow.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, we'll just cut it off.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Extremely painful. I think it was his left elbow. Yeah. Craig. Holy.

[Danny Hyperts]

But it's. That's pretty gruesome. It's making a right angle in the wrong direction.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, that's why you probably shouldn't keep your guys in when it's 38 to 7.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know, it's. There's seven minutes left in this game and he's scrambling. Ooh, that's horrible. Hopefully he's all right.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I guess Washington season is over.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. Craig, as you were saying, my point was going to be is like, even if the season's over, like, the one thing you want as, as a fan of a football team is like, I want to know we have our guy at quarterback and at least you know that Jade Daniels is awesome.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Is that what you were saying when you realized he was writhing on the ground?

[Danny Hyperts]

Because I was like, okay, look, if the year's not, at least they have.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Him for the term.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yes. I'm like, at least, you know, you have a guy who can play like a top five quarterback in the NFL when he's right.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right, man, say he's right.

[Danny Kelly]

Give me.

[Danny Hyperts]

Stretch it off or whatever. Hold on.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Wow. Well, on that lovely note, let's get to the most important thing that happened on Sunday Night Football.

[Danny Hyperts]

I think I know what you're going to say.

[Danny Kelly]

I thought I was having like an aneurysm or something. Chris Collinsworth, they show. They show a. A B roll of the city, which is funny because the stadiums don't work really near the city, but they show the. The B roll of the Lincoln Memorial. And Chris Collinsworth says, did you know. Sorry. He's like, Craig, actually. Craig, can you do it?

[Danny Hyperts]

He's like, you know, my dad's name was Abraham lincoln.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And.

[Danny Hyperts]

And mike3 goes like, what?

[Danny Kelly]

What?

[Danny Hyperts]

And he's like, yep, my dad was Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth. I. I googled it. Obviously, like, that's correct. Abe Lincoln Collinsworth is Chris Collinsworth's dad.

[Danny Kelly]

He.

[Danny Hyperts]

He played basketball in Kentucky. He won the national championship in 1957. His name's Abraham Lincoln Collinsworth.

[Danny Kelly]

Abraham Lincoln, is it the irony? Wasn't that Kentucky team actually all white? They weren't even segregated. They were still segregated at the time. This guy named Abraham Lincoln on an all white basketball team. What the.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, he probably wouldn't have made it otherwise. Yeah, that's. That's crazy. Abraham Lincoln Collins.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like.

[Danny Hyperts]

And Toriko was just like, all right. You learn something new every day. Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, Honest Abe Lincoln called.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's wild. Also, wait, one thing before we move on from this game. I just found this to be really odd.

[Danny Kelly]

I.

[Danny Hyperts]

The kicker for the Seahawks, they were about to kick the field goal and then it was like close to halftime. And they said, his name's Jason Myers, the kicker. And Tariko said, no one has scored more points in the NFL the last five years than this man. And I was like, excuse me. Jason Myers is the. Has the most points in the NFL 2020. Had no idea. Would have ne. You could have given me a hundred people. I know it's often we don't talk.

[Craig Korlbeck]

About points in NFL.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know it's often Jason Myers is not a kicker that like, lives in my head at all.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right. You're right.

[Danny Hyperts]

You told me to pick 20 kickers. I can barely remember.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's the Seahawks kicker.

[Danny Hyperts]

You know, I would have been like Justin Tucker. Chris Boswell. I don't know, like.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Just a random wait. Craig, before we go, I'm going to text you something right now. I just. I have no context. If you're listening, I haven't sent this to him yet. I want you to just read this in your Chris Collinsworth voice. Okay? Just read that. What I just texted you in your Chris Collinsworth voice.

[Danny Hyperts]

Four score and seven years ago, our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation might conceive in liberty dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal. I just love. Now we're in an engage in a great civil war, testing whether the nation or any nation, so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure. We are great battle gridiron of that war. We have come to dedicate a portion of that field and as a final resting place for those who gave their lives that that nation might live. It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Gettysburg Address. Jesus. Oh, my Lord.

[Danny Kelly]

Thanks, Chris.

[Danny Hyperts]

Third and eight for Marcus Mariota.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, winner or loser?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I already feel like they just scored a touchdown.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, they did.

[Danny Kelly]

Without him. There you go. Look it up.

[Danny Hyperts]

Who's. Who scored?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Rodriguez, I think.

[Danny Hyperts]

Of course.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

All right.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Not Bill.

[Danny Hyperts]

No, not. Not Bill Merritt. And. Yeah. Okay. We could probably move on from this game.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, we're gonna move on from this game. We're gonna do this.

[Danny Hyperts]

My dad just texted me. Nasty Jaden Daniels injury. Indeed.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's right.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's in an air cast or not an aircraft. He's in some type of.

[Danny Kelly]

Your dad said, nasty injury. Your mom said. Why do you look so sweaty?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I know. Are you sick?

[Danny Kelly]

Are you sick? You look sickly. Wait. Winner. Winner from today. We're going Buffalo. Buffalo.

[Craig Korlbeck]

They literally won. They literally won the game.

[Danny Kelly]

Buffalo beat Kansas City 20.

[Danny Hyperts]

But again, can we call them a winner? I thought we said on Thursday that if they win, it doesn't. It literally doesn't matter.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, that was what I was saying. That's what I'm gonna. Where I'm going. They are literally a winner because Buffalo has now beaten Kansas City five straight regular seasons, but they're still 0 and 4 versus the Chiefs in the playoffs. So, DK, while Buffalo is literally a winner, does this mean anything to you?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, narratively? Not a lot. It does help with the standings. It helps with the playoffs.

[Danny Kelly]

It literally helps with the standings in the standings.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm talking about, like, once they get to the playoffs and these teams inevitably face off again in the playoffs, does this win mean anything? No, probably not.

[Danny Hyperts]

If anything, it's almost funny from the Chiefs. Like, it's almost like we're just gonna lose every regular season. Just to show you that it doesn't matter, I.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This doesn't bother us at all.

[Danny Kelly]

Every single time these teams have played in the regular season, you feel like it's meant something, and then you get there and it doesn't. I mean, I think this game in a nutshell. I don't want to spend that much time on it because we talk so much time about the. Everyone watch this game. I feel like it's like pseudo prime time. I. I think the whole thing's kind of sums up that Josh Allen set the Bills franchise record for completion percentage with like, 88%, 89% almost. And then Patrick Mahomes had the lowest completion percentage of his career. I think that that kind of just. Is a neat little summary.

[Danny Hyperts]

They just couldn't block. The Chiefs couldn't block. To me, that was the story.

[Danny Kelly]

Mahomes was pressured all night, 15 times, and they just kind of kept losing offensive lineman. It was like Kingsley Sua Mataya got hurt and then Joanne Taylor went out. And then obviously Josh Simmons has this like, situation. He's away from the team. And frankly, I mean, I don't. Dk, do you think Joey Bosa is back or do you think the Chiefs line was so playing so poorly that Joey Bosa was briefly resuscitated?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know. I think he. It definitely somewhere in the middle. I don't think he's like back. There was one play, the fourth down play where they got like a fourth. Chiefs got a fourth and 17. Bosa got so cleanly into the backfield that he thought they were running a screen to his side because no one was blocking him. And so he liked ran in a circle because he was like, wait, where's the running back? Where's the running back?

[Danny Kelly]

That was one of the stranger plays. I got that. That wasn't like the craziest play I've ever seen or all season. Yeah, but it was.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It was wild.

[Danny Kelly]

It was bizarre. I don't know why the Chiefs can't really get third and ones, but that fourth and 17. I don't know, Craig. I thought that fourth and 17 was like. I actually like my eyes kind of popped out of my head.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know. That was the most casual 4th and 17 conversion I've ever seen in my life. We, like, everyone just kind of moved on. Which I guess is a testament to how amazing Mahomes is. But I mean, well.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So then Rasheed Rice again, just running around, just open, just wide fucking open like always.

[Danny Hyperts]

4Th and 17. It was a 29 yard pass to Rice. He's just like wide open in the middle of the field and I. I just. I just couldn't. It's like they were in a weird spot where they're like too far to kick, too close to punt. They're like, I guess we'll just go for it. And they just like very easily got it. And I thought it was ridiculous.

[Danny Kelly]

It. It was. It was the easiest looking thing I've ever seen. Probably because they didn't block Joey Bosa and he decided not to do anything about it. But I get it would have been confusing for him too. James Cook, first running back to run for 100 yards in the Chiefs in 34 games. I do just want to shout out Josh Allen, most games ever with a rushing touchdown and a passing touchdown and NFL history. He's like, not 30 yet that's kind of also players who've had six rushing touchdowns in eight straight seasons is just the list of five of the best running backs ever. It's like Ladanian Tomlinson and Marshall Falk and Jim Brown, Derrick Henry, Thurman Thomas and then Josh Allen. It's just. Just bizarre. So. But anyway, yeah, we don't have to spend a ton of time on this as Bill's literal winner.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yep.

[Danny Kelly]

But then a literal and spiritual winner. And I do think the thing we should probably go to next is. Craig, you're Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Danny Hyperts]

Unfortunately for our Ringer 107 picks in which we did horribly. We. The Colts were not a wagon today. And of course, this just goes to show. Like, I don't know, man. This stuff's all over the place.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, the NFL is insane.

[Danny Hyperts]

Like the packers losing to the Panthers. The Steelers fucking handled the Colts. Like, this game ended up 2720. It was really like 2410, basically most of the second half. That's spiritually what act like the real score was more like 24 to 10. The Colts had six turnovers. They had four all season. And today they had six. Daniel Jones had three picks and two fumbles. The Steelers were. Their defense was completely different. I mean, I. I know they switched up some scheme stuff, which is nice to see. Their defensive line was fucking great. Like, their linebackers and their linemen were just like in Daniel Jones's shorts the entire night. They couldn't get anything going. They couldn't run the ball. Jonathan Taylor, like 50 yards rushing. And it looked like what the hype was supposed, you know, in August, everybody saw, oh, the Steelers defense could be special.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right.

[Danny Hyperts]

The practices that we're seeing from this defense. DK met Guy, I think this is the best defense I've ever seen him coming from Seattle. And they were. They've been horrible all season. Couldn't do anything. They were getting gashed by tight ends. Tyler Warren had his lowest total of the year. 20 yards, I think he had. It was a complete reversal of everything we've seen from the Steelers defense this year.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, I mean, that's. And again, to reiterate, this was one of the greatest offenses we've seen through eight weeks ever. They couldn't do any legitimately up there with the 07 Patriots.

[Danny Hyperts]

And this is how much they were scoring. Like, they had a bunch of safeties out. They had to move Jalen Ramsey to safety. They traded for Kyle Duggar. He started after basically two days in Pittsburgh, so. But their defensive line was great. Like the rookie Harmon's good. Like, they have a lot of Peyton Wilson their second year guys. Awesome. They're really good up front. And so I, I, I, I honestly, I don't know what to take away from this game. I don't know if that's who the Steelers are or what it took.

[Danny Kelly]

It's. It's the 1000th less than the Talmon era that as soon as we completely write off the Steelers, that you should bet on them. All it took was Craig having an intrusive thought last week that T.J. watt was super overrated. And then Steelers fans literally holding a funeral for their defense in the parking lot with a fucking casket in the parking lot for it to reside.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The demons. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. TJY had a really great strip sack. Yeah, look, then the offense was pretty mediocre, but 18 pressures on Daniel.

[Craig Korlbeck]

18. Six takeaways.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, we have to. I know we're not here at Farter Shark yet, but we have to do a little interlude here for Farter Shark. Dk, Is this a fart for the Colts? Is this just like a burn the tape? Like, you know what happens sometimes, D.J. what gets to you? Or is this right? Is Daniel like, when Sam Darnold just had his total collapse the two weeks at the end of last season? Like, did that just happen? Daniel Jones, is it gonna be totally different going forward? Or what's it gonna be?

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, I don't think this is a shart. Like, I don't think they're gonna turn back into, like, a terrible offense and all that stuff. I do think I, I. It will be very telling to see how Daniel Jones reacts to this, because I think in the past, this was. We got. I got like, five different texts from people today being like, oh, old Sam Darnold is back. You know what I mean? Like, or, sorry, not Dan. Sam Darnold. Old Daniel Jones is back. And it kind of reminds me of, like, Sam Darnold last year kind of collapsing at the worst possible time for the Vikings. And so it'll be really cool that they're informative, I guess, to see how he reacts to this next week. But, yeah, I mean, this was a horror. Horrible game by Daniel Jones. Six, five turnovers. Like you said, he had two fumbles lost. He had. I think he had three fumbles, and then he lost two of them, plus three picks. They couldn't run the ball, which was shocking. Again, this was like, a terrible defense for the rest of the season. The.

[Danny Hyperts]

The Steelers, like, historically bad, I think, 450 yards each of the last two games, which the Steelers defense has never done.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Jonathan Taylor, 14 rushes for 45 yards. They couldn't run the ball, so they had to put it all on Dan Jones shoulders. Again. This. This offense has been so good because they have such incredible balance and they have so many different weapons that can make big plays, and it just went to crap today. I think they're going to be fine. I think their offense is going to remain very good. But just a sliver in the back of my mind, I'm like, man, did Daniel Jones just turn back into a pumpkin here?

[Danny Hyperts]

You know, it's interesting. We're in an interesting time right now with. With a handful of good teams in the NFL, guys like Daniel Jones. I would put Sam Darnold in this category. Caleb Williams is pretty young and unproven, but I kind of think he has the same feeling. You could throw what Mac Jones is doing on the Niners in there, where there's a lot of guys who are performing really well in the system. When things are working right, they look awesome. And then we saw Darnold in the playoffs last year, and there are these quarterbacks that are like, every week I see it, I believe, a little bit more and more. However, I wouldn't. I wouldn't let these guys walk me across the street, because when the playoffs roll around, I don't trust any of them. But their offenses are absolutely humming. Like, the bears put up 40 fucking seven points today. And. And Daniel Jones, the best offense since the 07 Patriots, and yet still Heifetz.

[Danny Kelly]

Doesn'T have the most points per drive since the 07 Patriots. They're not the best offense since the 07 Patri.

[Danny Hyperts]

Doesn't it feel that way, though, where there's. There's a lot of these great offenses and great quarterbacks that you still don't trust?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I mean, it's. The reality is that we give too much credit individually to quarterbacks sometimes. And it's okay for quarterbacks to, like, operate in one of the most efficient offenses ever, like the Lions. Also, if you just look at straight points per game through, like, 10 weeks, one of the best teams ever was the Lions last year with Jared Goff.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right, Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Like, I. I don't know. I guess I'm more comfortable with this idea that sometimes Sam Darnold would just come out and throw 14, four touchdowns and 16 passes at like, six months after we wanted to write him off, one month after we decided he was a great quarterback, after five years of writing him off, Jones, I actually was just more Just I really struggled. I believed he was better and healthier than he ended on the Giants tenure but it was rattle it. I, it just was really like hurting my brain that he, that the Colts offense could be 30 plus points per game with him. And I kind of have been waiting for something like this mostly to just like make me feel better that the Giants released to this man last year like in November they cut him and I'm like, and he just now but, but I don't know. I mean clearly the Colts are just a better team. I don't know. I think this is probably closer to burn the tape. I don't think the Colts are going to be a 30 plus point team going forward. I, I, I'm confused. I want to go back and watch this game for to your point, why they, why the Colts couldn't run on Pittsburgh, I was very surprised by but they also made stupid mistakes like six turnovers. Frankly, they only lost by seven goddamn points. No, I know that that like that's the flip side is don't turn it over six times. Even the Colts have turned it over three times. They probably win this game.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, I mean Josh Downs fumbled the punt.

[Danny Kelly]

That was so stupid too. I, I, I am so judgy of punt returners. If you're not going to catch it, get away from the way. Why you need to be so close. You've decided not to catch it. Get away from the ball. You're like voyeurism. What are you doing?

[Danny Hyperts]

And then sometimes like they're like I'm not going to touch it. But then it bounces close to them and they're like oh wait, should I away?

[Danny Kelly]

I'm not, I'm not supposed to be here.

[Danny Hyperts]

Get away.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh God. Anyway, yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Anyway. Steelers. I, I guess they're the steel curtains back. Are they back?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Are they back? Back?

[Danny Kelly]

I don't know. I googled Silk Curtain trying to find the joke you made. And then I just got a bunch of ads for curtains and I felt really stupid. You mentioned the other team. The, the, you mentioned how the Bears scored all these points today and I have to, I'm sorry, my loser has to be the Cincinnati Bengals because I actually originally was going to talk brutal.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

I was going to have winner Joe Flacco because I just couldn't believe what I watched. And then the Bengals lost the game to the Bears today. It was really, I know we joke about this all the time, but really was one of the four or five craziest games of the entire year. Just truly like an inexplicable, inexplicable game. The final score is hilarious. It's 47, Bears had 47 points. Bengals at 42. I feel like in the off season when the Bengals signed Jamar Chase to a huge contract and signed T. Higgins also to a huge contract, both at receiver and brought back Mike Kasiki at tight end while also paying Joe Burrow, we went on the show and we literally said, isn't spending all of this money on offense going to just lock in Cincinnati as a non competitive defense that will bring down the ceiling of this team's ability to win every single week? And Mina Kimes made the joke. The Simpsons Mark McGuire Joke of the socks.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Some Dingers.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you want to know the terrifying truth or you want to watch Jamar Chase and Tegan Socks and dingers. And we were like, dingers. This was the Dingers game, just dingers.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I couldn't decide whether this was a bat, like a impressive or just horrific for both teams, you know what I mean? Like, I didn't know whether to be impressed or disgusted just watching a strip club.

[Danny Kelly]

It was a strip club of a game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It was crazy because I mean obviously the, the offense is exciting. There was a whole bunch of guys that kind of were blossoming before our eyes. You know, Colson Loveland had an incredible game winning play. And then also I was just like, man, this isn't, this isn't good football. This isn't fun to watch. What, what are we doing here?

[Danny Kelly]

The J. Corey McGetty Bad porn. A lot of scoring and penetration. I don't know if you're, you're having fun watching it, but so, so I mean, just to go through because this was inexplicable. Joe Flacco broke his career high for passing yards by almost a hundred yards. Had four passing touchdowns, 450 something. First guy over 40 to ever hit 470 yards a game. Jamar Chase and Tegans both had over a hundred yards. T. Higgins was the number two receiver on the day. The Bengals had 42 points. Just. Just to recap in case I don't. You didn't see this one. The game just seemed super over. There's like under three minutes left. The Bengals are down 14 points with under three minutes left. Joe Flacco throws a pick. Game's over. I don't know what the odds are on. That has to be 99. That has to be like a Giants Bronco situation. 1600 games in a row, like turnover. Down 14 under three minutes. The game's Over. Well, Flacco gets the ball back right before the two minute warning. Joe Flacco scores in four places with a crazy touchdown. To T. Higgins get the two point conversion. Also to T. Higgins. Bengals get the onside kick, which, like never happens anymore.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, the percentage of getting an onside kick nowadays, isn't it like 3% or something? It's crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

Like it meets the standard of literally a statistical anomaly. And so now Flacco gets the ball back down six, scores again in six plays. So Joe Flacco scores two touchdowns in 49 seconds of game time under the two minute warning to the point where he actually leaves time left for the Bears, which is like, yeah, like 50 seconds or something. To be down 14 under the two minute warning and to actually take the lead and leave too much time is just blew my mind. So then the Bengals, who are so bad at tackling that col. Caleb Williams hits Colson Loveland over the middle for, I don't know, 20 yards downfield.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He pinballed off of three guys and 58 yards.

[Danny Kelly]

The safety on Cincinnati. I. It's easy to criticize, but like, obviously you get mad when a safety just kind of throws a shoulder at a guy and then like they bounce and you're like, wrap up. That is like the ultimate wrap up situation. There's like 35 seconds left at the time. They need to a touchdown. Like, tackle him, lay on him. Like you need to like kill clock. And he just, yeah, use your arms. And he just bounces and runs in the whole thing. And the Bengals players after the game lost their minds. Chase Brown was at. They just threw the team under the bus. Chase Brown was just sitting there. It was like me with Craig at the group chat, just making fun of him too. Like, Chase Brown was like, how do you. They asked Chase Brown, the running back, how do you feel? He was like, I feel like we should win the game. He's like, I feel just get a stop. We put up 42 points. We got the lead back. Like, just end the game. Let us go to victory formation. I'm like, oh, my God, these guys are losing their minds.

[Danny Hyperts]

You know what I don't understand about this Bengals Joe Flacco thing? I guess it's only how many games he played has he played Four.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Four.

[Danny Kelly]

He's touchdowns and two picks in these four games.

[Danny Hyperts]

Why is he not taking as many sacks as Joe Burrow and getting hit as much? Because it's. It's like if you look at the numbers, he's basically getting sacked like half as Much as Burrow did.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Why sacks are a quarterback stat.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a style.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I guess it's rhetorical, but it's just because Joe Burrow takes more sacks, like this is less decisive or something. I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

I, I, I will, I, I, I'd actually be curious to pull up the time to throw. I think the short answer is basically like your reaction out earlier. Yeah. Your reaction to pressure is either to hold onto the ball and scramble and try to extend. What Burrow does is he's like he will trade sacks for the opportunity to extend the play and try to get a play downfield. Flacco has made it to 41 years old by getting rid of the ball.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's just funny though that like Jamar Chase is having the best stretch of his career and it's not with Joe.

[Danny Kelly]

Burrow for fantasy because there's a lot of catches.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Joe Marches is absolutely fucking miserable right now by the way on the sideline.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's just kind of funny that a 41 year old is taking less sacks and doing a better job again getting well.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Craig, that, that's like my intrusive thought of the week was basically like wait. It had me. The what Joe Flacco is doing has me almost doubting my conviction that Joe Burrow is one of the best quarterbacks. Like is Joe Burrow a system quarterback? Is, is T. Higgins and Jamar Chase just propping Joe Burrow up?

[Danny Kelly]

He, he does.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There's no way. Right.

[Danny Kelly]

Joe Flacco does make it look quite easy to play with Jamar Chase. Like oh, can anyone do this?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Also the context of when Joe Flacco was with the Browns, he was legitimately fucking horrible. He was the worst quarterback in the NFL when he was on the earlier this year. That's right. This is my point. This is what I'm saying.

[Danny Kelly]

Almost like the theme of every conversation just it's a team sport playing with.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The game from weeks from weeks one to four guys, weeks one to four, Joe Flacco averaged six points per game. He was dead last in fantasy points per game. He had two touchdowns and six picks. A 60 pass rating which was also dead last. 32nd in EPA for drop back since week six and it's being traded. And this is why Mike Tomlin was upset about this. He is the QB one in fantasy. 25 points per game, 11 touchdowns to 2 in to interceptions, 28 completions per game which is most in the NFL. 103 pass rating. He's fifth in EPA per drop.

[Danny Kelly]

Can I, can I Well, I want to.

[Danny Hyperts]

They are averaging more points per game than they've ever averaged with Burrow. They are leading the league in points per game with Joe Flacco 32 points a game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What the hell?

[Danny Kelly]

We haven't talked about this. Why should the leadership of the Cleveland Browns not be fired for this, for sending Joe Flacco to the Bengals?

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, I thought, remember you said they're playing chess. They want the Bengals to be better so that the Bengals will get a worse pick.

[Craig Korlbeck]

If.

[Danny Kelly]

If that was their reason. If they said that to Jimmy Haslam, the owner of the Browns, and they're like, the Bengals will be better and will be worse and that way we're ruining the draft capital. Cool. If they said Joe Flacco sucks, he can't play, we're going to send him to Cleveland and he's going to. We're going to send him to Cincy. It's going to ruin their season. For a 5th round pick swap. They moved from basically the 180th pick to the 210th pick. If they told him that. To just get. Basically move up 30 spots on the third day of the draft, like they. Honestly, I think this is malpractice and I actually think it's going to. I think it will actually maybe end the tenure of the Cleveland front office. I'm not saying it like will happen.

[Danny Hyperts]

This is the straw that's going to break the camel's back of the fucking Browns.

[Danny Kelly]

For the fan base. I think the fan base can't get over this. There are so like Cincinnati, meanwhile, Dylan Gabriel can't pass.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Can't pass the ball more than like 10 yards down the field.

[Danny Kelly]

Have you. No, I'm just saying the Browns fans can take a lot. Certainly Flacco playing like this for your division rival because you gave them to. You didn't. Didn't get anything. They turned a six rounder into a fifth rounder.

[Danny Hyperts]

The division rival back is. It's un American.

[Danny Kelly]

It is un American.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's un American. Trading to your division rival, it's kind.

[Danny Kelly]

Of all you have at some point.

[Danny Hyperts]

It is like, what are we doing? Like, it's unsportsmanlike.

[Danny Kelly]

It is unsportsmanlike conduct. That is literally what the Browns did.

[Danny Hyperts]

You can't do that.

[Danny Kelly]

It's been. I will say though, it's too. I'm upset that the Bears won. Not because I don't like the.

[Craig Korlbeck]

By the way, the Bengals keep losing, so.

[Danny Kelly]

They keep losing.

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, speaking of that, before we get talked about the Bears, I have a great stat for you here, the Bengals are the first team to score 38 plus points in back to back games and lose both since the 1966 Giants.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I, I, I, I. The Bengals defense, it sucks. It's going to suck. They're going to be like this forever. They're locked in. It's not because they paid the guys, it's because they missed all their picks on defense. It is what it is. We'll get to the Bears in a second. I just want to say before the Bears came back and won this game, I think what Flacco's doing because he should have won this game and like the story should have been, the Bengals defense slew it. Joe Flacco came back from. He won. He should have won this game in regulation with a minute 45 left. I think this is one of the craziest runs I've ever seen from an athlete like Joe Flacco the last three years come. He was dead to rights two years ago. So much so to the point that he beat Demore Hamlin for comeback player of the year two years ago.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's literally Michael Myers every season. He just keeps.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He was dead to rights four weeks ago. Like he was, he was awful for the Browns. Can I reiterate? He was the worst quarterback in the NFL when he was on the Browns.

[Danny Kelly]

This is unbelievable.

[Craig Korlbeck]

A month ago.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I, I, I'm blown away, Flacco. But the Bears though, do deserve credit because even if they did it in the strip club of the Cincinnati Bengals, we keep making the joke because it's the Craig. How did you put it? It's like, is this team actually good or is it just, you know, it's like this, the stripper actually like you. Is this just a job? It's like, is this team actually good or is this the Bengals defense they're playing, right?

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. And I mean it definitely is. The Bengals defense is horrific. But we said on Thursday we were like, you know, if there's any game where Caleb's going to be fantastic, it better be this game. And I mean, he was great. Especially for fantasy. He was by far the best fantasy quarterback of the day. I think it was the third best game of a fantasy quarterback this whole season. He had 37 points, caught a touchdown through three.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Caught two passes today.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Caught a touchdown from not one or two.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, they were great. And then we also saw Colston Loveland, like finally. We also talked about this on Thursday, you know, if we were as good at our ringer. 107 picks as we were about fantasy prognostication, we'd be having a good Sunday because Colston Loveland, as we said, all the Bears receivers were banged up. Loveland was fantastic. Had the game winning 50 yard touchdown and looks now like he is officially kind of like, oh, I understand why they took this guy 10th.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right, right. Yeah. That's the key thing is now you kind of can glimpse why they took him over Tyler Warren. I think for most of the year it was like, man, look at what Tyler Warren's doing.

[Danny Hyperts]

And then, and now the Colts suck.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think he's just, he's closed the gap and he, he, he, he did look great. He out there. He had 26 points in fantasy. Two touchdowns, 118 yards. This other guy, Kyle Manangai also looked really good. They're running back, their backup running back who has been splitting reps with DeAndre Swift. DeAndre Swift was out this week. Manangay looked really, he was breaking a lot of tackles. Pretty explosive.

[Danny Hyperts]

He looked amazing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

For a seventh rounder, he looked like David Montgomery. He looked like he was doing a David Montgomery Halloween costume.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. So he finished as the RB3 on the day DJ Moore finished as wide receiver 3. He threw a touchdown on the Philly special to Caleb Williams. He, he looks, he, he looks, he's looking like he's getting more on the same page with Caleb Williams. I think their, their connection is like improving a little bit over the last few weeks. So that's good overall though, like, hopefully. Obviously this is a huge caveat. It's the Bengals defense. They're not going to face the Bengals defense every week, but they did what.

[Danny Hyperts]

He was supposed to do.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. Maybe this will be like a little bit of a momentum confidence builder for them and they can start to really gel and it's nice to see the young players for, for the Bears kind of doing what they were supposed to do.

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, I will say for the first one, for the first time this season, maybe ever on this show, I think we have a debutante ball daily double with Manungai and Lovel here.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right, there we go.

[Danny Hyperts]

Two guys, two rookies maturing in front of our very eyes. We need a, we need a sound.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Drop every time you say maturing hyphens, Diesel who say human, human being.

[Danny Hyperts]

We need a sound drop like jeopardy for debutante. Yeah, yeah. Anyway, Manangai looks fantastic and I mean he looks better than DeAndre Swift.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So I mean, importantly, the run game, the run game has just been effective.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know it's the Bengals, I understand that. But he just. He looked awesome to me.

[Danny Kelly]

47 points in regulation. Pretty good. So stick with the NFC north here. We gotta go to. It's so over. We're so back. We're so back for J.J. mcCarthy, quarterback of the Vikings. I don't know, DK.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I thought it was a huge game for him. This was a crucial, crucial game for him. I mean, if he would have played poorly, it would have been all fucking over. No, he looked actually very impressive. High Fitz. Credit to that for having that. I can't. I got off that pod and I was like, I don't even know what we were arguing about really. But yeah, J.J. mcCarthy played really well in that game.

[Danny Hyperts]

Wait, credit to Hive. It's for. For predicting he would play well. I don't think he. I think he just said, this is an important game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay, I'm taking the credit back if it's. It's no credit.

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, I forget. Were you saying McCarthy was going to be awesome?

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, we were arguing over whether it was like a pivotal game, I guess, for JJ.

[Danny Kelly]

Pull up the tape. I said, JJ McCarthy's going to complete 1443 yards, two touchdowns, one pick, five sacks. He's going to run nine times for 12 yards. The stat line won't be. Stat line.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Doesn't look great, actually.

[Danny Kelly]

No, but he's going to have a few awesome moments. I will say he did. He didn't have to do a ton. He was protected. But like, the first drive, like, didn't have to do much. They ra. They moved the ball a lot with runs and screens. Then he threw an awesome, like the first real pass. He. Out of the game was like a dime to Jordan Addison. And Jordan Addison dropped. It was awesome. So two plays later, he just throws to the other sideline to Justin Jefferson. And Justin Jefferson catches it. Touchdown. The next drive come down and he. He's like scrambling. Gets to the red zone again. And he didn't really have to do a lot of work, him getting in the red zone. But when he was there, he did his job and he, like did the thing you're like kind of never supposed to do as a rookie quarterback, get away with it. Scrambled his right through, cross his body over the middle of the field. Just did it. Worked to TJ Hawkinson. Got another touchdown. Had another scramble in the third quarter, got a touchdown. Like, there was a lot of punts in between that. Don't worry about it. But the coolest play that he had of the whole game was to ice the game. Cause the Vikings won this game 27:24. And they actually get to get multiple first downs to not get the lines, the ball back. And on third and six, he kind of roped a pretty dangerous pass to Jaylen Naylor and he just fucking nailed it. And Jaylen Naylor caught it and they just ended the game. And it was pretty like ice in his veins. And then all the videos after the game were pretty cool.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, he's nuts. I mean, he is. He is one of the more intense people I've ever seen, especially for a rookie. Him in the, in the locker room afterwards, like, he doesn't blink, but I.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Have a Tiger, Craig.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's almost like this guy has only thrown 41 passes in the NFL and we shouldn't maybe decide if he's good or not yet. He's basically played six quarters until today. You know what I mean? This guy hadn't played football.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And I want to say just from like an affect point of view or just his body language and how he appeared on the field, he felt way more confident. Not a deer in the headlights like we saw for almost all his other plays prior to this. Other than that fourth quarter against the Bears in Week one, I thought he just looked more confident, looked more poised. I don't know. He was just stepping into throws. He was playing on time a little bit more.

[Danny Hyperts]

He.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He was definitely still late on some throws, and there's definitely things to work out, but I think overall it was a positive performance. And we can probably shut up about, like, him getting benched now.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, this is, this is why I thought it was such a big deal. The Vikings are 4 on 4, but every other team in the NFC north has 5 wins. So the Vikings are totally still back in the playoff hunt. Now, like, this was a huge win because they brought the Lions back to earth. The packers blew it by losing to Carolina. Like, this NFC north could go any which way over the second half of the season.

[Danny Hyperts]

There's a lot of excitement. I think sometimes, like rookies come in and they're do. They're kind of like still playing like they were in college, where it's like they're scrambling around. It's all like magic plays at the end of the game, stuff like that. I do think McCarthy has a lot of that. And it's like the, the, the actually good quarterbacks end up graduating from that, and they end up becoming guys who can just like sit in the pocket, rip passes, read a defense, play good, and that's always the line. There are a lot of guys who come in, like, I think Dart has a little bit of the same thing. Even though I think dart's good, but, like, where it's just. It's like all these crazy magic plays and it's like, these are fun, but eventually you're gonna have to be able to just like, face a good defense and dice them up with your arm. And so McCarthy, it's like we're seeing everything again. He's played like 10 quarters, and I think so far you have to be. You have to be relatively excited about what you've. You're seeing, right?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I. I think Vikings fans, I think feel super vindicated. Like I, you know, because probably weren't shadow. He probably was hurt probably.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Also, like, maybe because I said something about him never playing us, never having a start for the Vikings ever again.

[Danny Hyperts]

That was a bill made us give a hot take. That was basically a lot of people.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, I gave a correct tape, which is that why did the Bengals even know. Need Joe Burrow back like Joe Flacco.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's kind of aging perfectly.

[Danny Hyperts]

Also, like, maybe it's a good thing to wait to make sure that a player that is really important to your team is 100 healthy.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. And the mobility, you can tell, dude.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There was a couple of plays during this game where he got chased down from behind and tackled. And I was like, oh, God. Like, I was really. I just kept. I was really worried about him a couple times, but came through unscathed. And yeah, they. They got to feel pretty confident going forward about this, so that's a huge bonus for them.

[Danny Hyperts]

I can't wait for them. He's gonna play like next week and we're gonna. It's definitely gonna be. It's so over.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's over.

[Danny Kelly]

Speaking of it's so over. I felt like Trayvon Henderson for the Patriots. It was also kind of. It's. It was a real big. It's so over. We're so back week within it. It's so over. We're so back season for trivia and Henderson where it's like every single time we're like, this is going to happen. No, it's not. I want. I want this guy. Why am I doing this? And then today I. Jackie and I are in like a 14 team league and she actually needed to like, add or. She comes to me like 20 minutes before the game starts. She's like, I need a running back off waivers and I'm like in a 14 team league to play. And I'm sitting there looking at Terrell Jennings and I'm like, that's pretty stupid. I shouldn't do that. He's never had more than two fantasy points.

[Danny Hyperts]

And then you saw the video of Vrabel hugging him, and you're like, you know what?

[Danny Kelly]

Anyway, he scored a touchdown instead of Trayvon Henderson, so I feel like it's so over and yet. Dk, you told me today that Travian Henderson's nameplate is allegedly the right size.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Now, I can't confirm it, but it looked normal. So that's good, you know, because we talked about his name plate. His numbers were all small and, like, crammed together. Really?

[Danny Hyperts]

His letters.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, yeah, sorry. His letters. There's like all these people talking about how, you know, the. The uniform design is they have the stripes on the shoulders. I'm like, what about Christian Gonzalez? What about fucking Madre Stevenson? Their name plates are normal. Like, why can't we fit his name in there? Anyway, so it looks like they fixed it. Maybe they didn't, but it looked normal today. So we're still back on that. He also had his best game, I think, as a pro. 14 carries, 55 yards. He had four catches for 32 yards. He played 75% of the snaps, like.

[Danny Kelly]

A third of the way to Kyle Manon. Guy cool.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He. I'm sure he'll get relegated back to the bench if Radre comes back. So you gotta. You gotta kind of watch what happens with Radre's injury as a toe injury, which can linger. But at the very least, he. He made some nice plays today, which was something that you couldn't have said about pretty much any other game before last week.

[Danny Hyperts]

It was still annoyingly underwhelming for a guy who started the game and he had like 11. I mean, it was fine.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God, DK, you're such a. For double digits. If he had 9.6 points, you would not be like, yeah, he had 9.6.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's.

[Danny Kelly]

He has 10 points.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Bright side of life, like, watching Terrell.

[Danny Hyperts]

Jennings score in the first quarter in the red zone, I was like, what the.

[Danny Kelly]

I know, I know. I totally agree.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Craig just texted Terrell Jennings to the group chat.

[Danny Hyperts]

What are we doing?

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's like he's putting the name the people to kill list Terrell Jennings.

[Danny Kelly]

Now we're going to get into something special. That's right. It's time for brand new segment called who's cooking this week, brought to you by our friends at ikea. Now, IKEA is where to go when you want to cook up your dream kitchen. But today we're talking about who is absolutely cooking in fantasy football. And Craig, I think that there ha. There's only one guy here we can really start this with who's in the kitchen cooking.

[Danny Hyperts]

I gotta give it to Drake London, who the Falcons unfortunately lost in devastating fashion by one point to the Patriots. But. But Drake London is absolutely cooking in fantasy. It was a slow start. The first month was a little messy. Since week four. Drake London, number one wide receiver in.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Fantasy, in points per game really.

[Danny Hyperts]

He had three touchdowns today. About 120 yards. Third best fantasy performance by a receiver this season. Every touchdown was fantastic. Like even if he just had one of those, it would have been like the play of the day. I think he had three. They were all like one handed. He is basically playing basketball like he plays basketball at wide receiver more than any receiver I can remember. He's like, I don't even know why he needs to run routes. Like just throw, you know, aim him at the corner of the end zone and throw it up and he will just like go up and come down with it like a power forward. Yeah, he is really. I mean he literally did play basketball at usc, but he's incredible and he is like the new best jump ball guy in the league. I feel like him and T. Higgins, I totally.

[Danny Kelly]

That is a good point because I think T. Higgins still deserves the crown. But I agree that Drake London's right there. I think today looked like Michael Penix to Drake London. Today really reminded me of Michael Penix to Roma Dunes at Washington in college where Michael Pennock just had this rapport of just like I'm just going to throw up. And that works like 80% of the time. Just toss it at the Rome. He's going to figure it out. But like with just enough of a rapport to figure out what like picking and choosing your spots. I. They were totally on par or they were just on the same page the whole time. But to your point of the degree of difficulty, it's like if it was gymnastics, like the harder the routine, the bigger the score, the multiplier or whatever. Like Drake London, it wasn't quite Simone Biles stuff out there, but everything was like as hard as it could be with no margin for errors. At the end of the half, it was at the end of the game it was to tie the game. I know they didn't tie the game, but everything was really important and as hard as it could possibly be. And Drake London just, it kept like escalating the scene.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, the fourth quarter one was nuts. It was like one handed corner of the end zone. He had like a 50 yard catch down the sideline where he went up so high and grabbed it. He basically landed on Christian Gonzalez. He like body slammed him and injured him.

[Danny Kelly]

It was like a WWE move. It was like he caught the ball and then like crushed him.

[Danny Hyperts]

He like could he. His airtime was so much better than Christian Gonzalez's that by the time he came down, Christian Gonzalez was already on the ground and then he like landed on him. But yeah, man.

[Craig Korlbeck]

London Remember the quaint old days when we couldn't remember any place from Drake London, those days are.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, I know. He has such an identity now. To me like he's like a Mike Evans T. Higgins. Just like throw it up to him in the corner of the end zone.

[Danny Kelly]

Drake London to me is also age wise like the Sam Darnold because the same way Darnold is like two and a half years older than Tyler Shuck who had one of the worst performances I've ever seen today. Drake, like I'm just saying Drake London's 24. Yeah, I mean he's like his entire prime is ahead of him. So I mean he's unbelievable.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's a good, it's a good call. Craig too because it felt like at the beginning of the year he was a bust. He. It, it felt like things were going to go really poorly. I remember because we touted him a lot. We really liked it coming into a year and I was like, oh, this is not aging well. But they definitely on the same page now and because like last year when, when Penix was starting, he was the number one receiver in fantasy.

[Danny Hyperts]

So now we're seeing that again, like he's just lasering in on him and he had 14 targets today.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The other guy that I want to shout out who is also doing, you know, he. At the beginning of the year it looked like he was one of the worst picks in fantasy. And it was mainly because he got hurt and then he tried to play through the injury.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, it was only because he got hurt.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right. But Brock Bowers, man, he reminded me today why I love him so much. He was absolutely thrilling to watch. Just the guy moves differently than everyone else on the field. He's bigger and more explosive than pretty much any defender and he had three touchdowns in this game. He had a one handed touchdown in the beginning of the game. Another he like caught a ball and, and outraced everyone to the end zone and then he caught a third touchdown in overtime. The dude, he's just so good. I love Brock Bars he clearly changes the Raiders offense so much, so it's really just fun to see him healthy and out there. I think Gino had a much better game today because Brock was out there kind of doing his thing. Yeah. So he had 37 fantasy points, three touchdowns, 127 yards. Like, this is exactly why people were drafting him at the 12 turn this year.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's a big win for waiting for your players to be healthy with JJ McCarthy and Brock Bowers, where they took the extra weeks to be like, we're actually going to wait till he's 100%, and he's probably not even 100%. And he, he is so clearly, like, the best tight end in the league. It's, it's crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

He's the best player on the field.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's like one of the best receivers, period.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it's, it's unbelievable. And Bowers, too. It's funny though, dk, because you're like, oh, he looks like he's huge. He does look like he's huge. He's not. He just has, like, this every time he has the ball, he just feels like he can't be brought down or he can't be caught.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's, like, made a cement.

[Danny Kelly]

But he's 6 3. He's got, if he's 6 2, he probably would have played tight end. I, I, he, I, I see what you're saying. Crazy. It's funny, too, because there were all these memes of people of Aaron Glenn, the coach of the jets, sprinting down the sidelines, celebrating, and it was just like all these, like one in seven fantasy managers celebrating that Brock Bauer had 40 points today, but Brock Bauer's double his fantasy points today. Like, I don't think Brock Bauer, he's.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like the tight end, 10 even after.

[Danny Kelly]

Missing all that time because he doubled his points today. I looked it up because I was, I was, I was curious if you go by full PPR scoring so, like, you get a full point per catch. Brock Bowers had the 10th most fantasy points today by a single, in a single game by a tight end ever.

[Danny Hyperts]

I mean, he made me believe in the Raiders again. Gino was kind of cooking. Ashton Genti was doing stuff. I was like, they're hanging with the Jags. They, I mean, we can talk about what they did at the end of the game by going for two, but they lost by one. But I don't know. The offense looked a lot better because of Brock Bowers.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, my, yeah. And Bowers just unbelievable. The other guy. I want to just mention for cooking day is Matt Stafford for the Rams. We don't have to spend a ton of ton of time in this game. It was 30. The Rams beat the Saints 34 to 10. It was nine.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The least competitive game maybe of this year.

[Danny Hyperts]

Dude, that was the one bet we hit.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, yeah. Good, good.

[Danny Kelly]

Stafford this season has 21 touchdown passes and two interceptions.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He had 20 touchdown passes last year in the entire year.

[Danny Hyperts]

Wait, can I be the guy to do it? Why isn't he in the MVP conversation?

[Danny Kelly]

But he actually should be.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, right.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Because he has 21 touchdowns and two picks. I know it's probably Josh Allen, but if we voted today, I feel like Stafford would be second or third or at least should be.

[Danny Hyperts]

And I mean them getting devonte also is so it's like. Cause Puka inevitably will miss a quarter of every game because he always gets injured because he's a maniac. And having Devonte there is just like this automatic red zone target for Matt Stafford is. Is really something.

[Danny Kelly]

I was thinking today I might introduce Stafford to Devonte at the two yard line. Feels as inevitable as this gets lost. But peak Drew Brees to peak. Jimmy Graham was felt literally like unstoppable. Like there's nothing you could do. And obviously Devonte Adams is not like stylistically or size wise like Jimmy Graham. But watching it today, I was kind of like there's nothing anyone could do about this with the ramp. Like there's no way to play defense in a way that Stafford's not going to get this ball to devonte unless you just play in a way that they're just going to be able to run it up the middle.

[Danny Hyperts]

You know, it's like a pick and roll in the NBA with like two, two players that no matter what you do, you can't stop it.

[Danny Kelly]

It's like Wemby in the pick and roll. And you're like what?

[Danny Hyperts]

You're like, I don't know how we do that because. And Puka. Puka did leave for a portion of the game today. He was hurt. Puka never has a normal injury. It's never like his ankle. I feel like it's like it's like his like neck or abdomen or ears. Like it's always like the weirdest thing. So he's like a gluco.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Puka miss time in the third quarter.

[Danny Hyperts]

Guts like it is. It's never his hamstring. It's always like Puka neck might not return. Like what?

[Craig Korlbeck]

So true. So true. The whole time you guys are talking about devonte Adams on the Rams. I just kept thinking, it's so. It's so funny how heartless and callous the Rams are. It reminds me of the Toy Story thing. You know, it was like throwing away Woody.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like. It's like people forgot Cooper cup ever existed. On the Rams.

[Danny Kelly]

I know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's what I'm talking about. Like, the Rams, after getting the most that they could out of Jared Goff, discarded him into the waist bin and decided they'd rather have someone better in Matt Stafford. I'm obviously like, you could look at the two trades and both have. Both sides have done great on that trade, but they've very callously just ditched Jerry Goff and went with Matt Stafford. And then this off season, they just. Just jettisoned the former, you know, triples crowd winning Cooper cup in in favor of devonte Adams. And devonte Adams is living his best life right now. So I don't know, it's like, does that make them villains or does that make them more likable? I'm not sure.

[Danny Hyperts]

They're like, ew. Cooper Cup's 32. No, thanks. Bye.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, I mean, 31. He's not young.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. That's it for who's cooking this week, brought to you by our friends at ikea. We all want to cook, whether it's in fantasy football or in your dream kitchen. And at ikea, you can find everything you need to create yours, from big dreams, like whole new kitchens to smaller ones, like stylish plates. Bring them to life with high quality, expertly designed and innovative products. Visit IKEA US DreamKitchen to learn more. Dream the possibilities.

[Danny Hyperts]

All right, it's time for America's favorite segment. Farter Shark. Do we have drop?

[Danny Kelly]

It's time for farts or shar. I tried to fart. I just shorted. Do you think IKEA knows that? We put that back to back with the IKEA thing.

[Danny Hyperts]

They should be so lucky.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay, Daniel, stop asking me.

[Danny Hyperts]

Daniel.

[Craig Korlbeck]

What?

[Danny Hyperts]

Listen up.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay?

[Danny Hyperts]

We have not been Roma Dunes a womadunese Womadunze. We have not been seeing a lot of big time froze from kwib to womb lately.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That's true.

[Danny Hyperts]

The Bears scored 47 points today, and Roma Dunes had zero catches.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That was bizarre. Absolutely bizarre.

[Danny Hyperts]

Rome was the wide receiver three through the first month of the season, and I think everybody was like, wow, Bears got a guy. Everybody was right. Last year was a, you know, an aberration because the team was a mess. Rome is the guy who should have been taking a top 10 since the beginning of October. Rome Odunze is the wide receiver. 58. He has 11 catches in the month of October and this week as well. 11 catches in his last four games. What gives? Which month do I trust? September or October? Was it a fart or a shar? The entire month of October.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think it's a fart. I think he's good. I'm not 100% sure, but I think he's a really good player. Okay. And so therefore he'll be fine.

[Danny Hyperts]

You think he's really good?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Why? But then what's been going on? Like, he's dropping a lot of passes. People are talking about that.

[Danny Kelly]

I was gonna say he's dropping passes and he's hurt. He also should have had a touchdown today.

[Danny Hyperts]

He has a heel injury. Yes. There's a lot of.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Maybe he's one of those guys that just doesn't really. He can't play through injury as well as some other players. Maybe that's kind of the story on.

[Danny Kelly]

Him because last year, 47 points.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Last year he was, you know, obviously the top 10 pick. What was he? What, where'd he go? 10 or 11 or something like that.

[Danny Kelly]

He was, he was ninth. Because Ryan Poles, the GM for the Bears, literally had to be restrained by Bears staff to not trade their fourth rounder to move up a spot or two to get Roman. Dudes, they were like, can you wait? We have like four picks in this entire draft.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But he hurt his knee at the beginning of the year and then he was obviously very disappointing his rookie year, especially relative to some of the other guys in that receiver class. And so I don't know. Maybe he just doesn't perform well when he's hurt. I'm not really sure what the deal is, to be honest. I, I, but like, I would stand that by that. I think he's a good player. I just.

[Danny Hyperts]

All right.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know.

[Danny Kelly]

I think it's worse. He's unselfish because while the Bears have to be more of 47 points, he was doing this menial grunt work, like blocking and shit.

[Danny Hyperts]

Okay, so he's the, he's the opposite of A.J. brown, essentially.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, exactly.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's just been farting for a month. But no, no need to go to the doctor.

[Danny Kelly]

Should we that. Well, I mean, you know, maybe just lactate pills or something. I don't know. Lactate. Get in touch. Don't know what you're doing.

[Danny Hyperts]

Reach out.

[Danny Kelly]

Could be sponsoring the segment. We should have be a badge next year's rankings we should have it be, like, unselfish for receivers, but it's like derogatory. Like the unselfish. We should know who actually are, like, good guys. Like Godwin. Unselfish, Right. Horrific.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

I only want the really selfish guys, though. I want the guys who are pissed.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I want out. Yeah. I want really. We should have selfish and unselfish. We should know that.

[Danny Hyperts]

Should be a little tag on the. On the. Our ranking website.

[Danny Kelly]

Unhappy with just winning.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Godwin, like, had his wife, like, take to social media to. To lobby for him to get more targets, didn't he? I don't know if Godwin's the best.

[Danny Kelly]

Example, but I don't remember that.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Maybe I think. I think I'm thinking of the right guy.

[Danny Kelly]

You know what?

[Danny Hyperts]

We're not sure. It sounds like you hate the Godwin family.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No, I love them because they're divas.

[Danny Kelly]

Godwin.

[Danny Hyperts]

I don't know. Is that true? I don't remember that.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm gonna have to Google it now.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay. She said something about Todd Bowles. Yeah. Like a couple years ago.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There we go.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's smart, though, by Godwin, because he's a team player. But then he goes home, quietly complains to his wife, and then he's like, hey, look, if you want to post something, that's fine, but I'm not going to.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Through channels. He's going through channels there. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Okay. All right, so it's a bit. It's a big fat month long fart for Roma Dunes. I have one more for you, Dan.

[Craig Korlbeck]

God.

[Danny Kelly]

But just, just.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Just to be clear, just call me Dan.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, I did.

[Danny Kelly]

We didn't mention that Roma Dinze had zero catches and Caleb Williams's quarterback had two.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right.

[Danny Hyperts]

And Rome didn't even throw one of them. Like.

[Danny Kelly]

No, sorry. Keep going.

[Danny Hyperts]

Okay, next one. Daniel. The Green Bay packers, usually farter shard is for a player in fantasy. I'm expanding it to an entire team. The packers lost today to The Carolina Panthers 16 to 13 while wearing their night, their ode to 1923 leather helmet things. And it seems like they went a little too method with it because they look like they were playing in 1923. It's six points through 57 minutes.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Packers, Daniel Day Lewis over here.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. The packers have now lost to the Browns and the Panthers. What's up?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yes.

[Danny Hyperts]

Farter shart. And I'm talking about when I say farter shart, I mean in terms of. Do you think this team could win the Super Bowl?

[Craig Korlbeck]

It feels more like a shirt to me because they just keep letting teams that are not supposed to be hanging around hang around. And that could be a fatal flaw.

[Danny Hyperts]

The two worst teams they played this season, they lost to.

[Danny Kelly]

I. I don't think the packers are a Super bowl team. Like, there's something off with this team. There's everything about it. You can't quite put your finger on it. But like, every single part of it. The parts. The. The. The sum is just less than the fuck. The whole is less than the sum of the parts. Like Jordan Love, just as a singular player, he's clearly so talented. With Jordan Love doesn't want to throw from a clean base and he starts trying to do cool, he just sucks. Like, Jordan Love trying to throw off his back foot and do mahomes, like, stuff. It just.

[Danny Hyperts]

Dude, the fourth quarter throw today was like one of the worst throws ever.

[Danny Kelly]

The fourth down throw was genuinely one of. That was one of the worst. I've never seen a one play embarrass two people on two different teams so thoroughly. Love, like, somehow Jordan Love did one of the dumbest things I've seen from quarterback all year. And then the guy at the Panthers who dropped it, I was like, that's the worst pass I've ever seen dropped in any context. Football.

[Danny Hyperts]

There was a moment when he went. When Love threw it. The camera pans to the end zone, and the only guy in the frame is a Panthers guy.

[Danny Kelly]

Only guy. It's not a bullet.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's like, so much punt in the end zone and it goes through his.

[Danny Kelly]

Hands and he dropped it. And I'm like, that should have been the easiest. It probably was the easiest catch that guy's had at any level of his entire life. The rare.

[Danny Hyperts]

I could have done that moment.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wasn't it actually better for their field position, though?

[Danny Kelly]

Because he should have scored a touchdown. Like, I. He could have gone the other 99 yards. We should do that at the end of the year. The rewatchables, we should all get to pick one play a year. You're like, I could have done that. Yeah, we all get to pick.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's actually really good. And it's tough. Cause I don't know how. We have to log them as we go or else.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes, we do. But this. That would be mine is like, even that one. Like, that's harder to look. Because, like, for real people, that is like 30 yards away. It's like any football being thrown 40 yards. You're like, yeah, harder than you think for your normal fucking person. If you're wearing the gloves Though, man.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The gloves are remarkably sticky.

[Danny Kelly]

Just catching your God anyway. But the packers, though, I. There's so many things that are just like, ick. I know the packers have injuries. You know, their offensive line is perfectly healthy right now. You knew. Also offensive line isn't healthy. The Panthers, they had three backups on their offensive line. Somehow this was the first game in Michael Parsons his career we had zero pressures.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The.

[Danny Kelly]

The.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think the most damning stat in this whole discussion about the packers is the packers lost when Bryce Young went 11 for 20 for 102 yards and an interception. They lost that game.

[Danny Kelly]

That's like the. It's like the Browns game.

[Danny Hyperts]

If somebody was like, hey, the Panthers are going to score 16 points and Bryce Young's gonna throw for 100 yards. How much do the Packers. The Packers 20.

[Danny Kelly]

Shout out to Justice Muscat, Acme Packing Company who point. I mean, one put it very well. Matt LaFleur was playing for field goals in a game where the kicker was hurt. But also noted The packers were 13 and a half point favorites. It's the first time in the history of the Green Bay packers they've lost outright after being favored by like 13 points. Like, they've been tracking this since 1970. Rob demo sky@espn that's that. Like, they've been Tracking this since 1970. It's the first time the back has been favored by this bunch. They just lost the game and I just. They're just not obviously of talent. Obviously, they could compete with anybody. The packers play the Eagles next week. They could just beat the Eagles. But I just. I don't have faith in this team. They just. They just are less.

[Danny Hyperts]

They did not punt today and they scored 13 points.

[Danny Kelly]

That is like, impossible.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The way that Heifers put it, where there's something off about this team. Like, that's just like, to me, the. The truest way to describe the situation. Something's off with these guys.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know they run the ball a lot, but it doesn't feel like they're particularly great at running the ball. It just feels like they can't. I. It just. They honestly seem kind of like a mediocre offense.

[Danny Kelly]

Their most explosive receiver is Christian Watson, who's the guy who just got back from a terrible knee injury. Is by far their best receiver. Remo Dubs, who somehow.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's good.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. And.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Well, it.

[Danny Kelly]

It's the guardian cap with the old. The old leather print. You know what.

[Danny Hyperts]

Came in leather.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, she just got in the leather cap. That would probably be way safer than the fucking Guardian cap. You know what it reminded me of today? I really, it has been bothering me for a long time. I just figured it out. Oh my God, I can't wait to talk to you guys about this. This is the Guardian cap. It's a great thing. The Guardian caps are good and it's any, it's not 100% sure whether they help guys long term with concussions. Anything that might help should be is good and should be destigmatized. However, they look like the book covers you would put on your textbooks in high school. And I just figured this out.

[Danny Hyperts]

Stretchy, elastic things.

[Danny Kelly]

It's been bothering me. Yes. For two years. And it's like you have your chemistry textbook or your math textbook. I hated this little like cover over it to like a little design.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't even know what that Chemistry book, book, condom.

[Danny Kelly]

And that's what Romeo. It looked like that so much today with the leather print of it. You could tell they didn't really get that much time to do that. It's like the packers logo. They put a lot of time into it. This one was like, oh, that's a rush job.

[Danny Hyperts]

I feel like they were also always like a sparkly blue. They were like neon colored and very stretchy. There was like pink ones and blue ones. There's like nothing ever normal.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about. The other thing is here that we're totally bearing the lead on is Tucker Kraft towards ACL and that is a brutal hit for them. He was like obviously one of their best offensive players and golden got hurt.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, they did lose a lot of guys during the game. I just like. But the Panthers are hurt too. But yes, golden but I mean Tucker Craft, obviously real life, fantasy everything Tucker Craft. I think packers fans would say he's been their best player this season on off for sure.

[Danny Hyperts]

They're absolutely their breakout player was the.

[Danny Kelly]

Number one tight end in fantasy entering this week. So that's brutal. I mean we don't know for sure but generally speaking the hit rate on if they think Utori's ACL on Sunday is 98% heading into Monday. So Hope May hopefully.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Hyperts]

I, I, I, I went to look at the 1923 packers because that's the homage that they were doing today with these, with these like fake leather helmets. And I wanted to see if there were any games where the 1923 packers outscored the packers today. There was they the the last game of the season. The packers outscored the Hammond Pros 19 to 0. And they won the game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Hammond Pros.

[Danny Hyperts]

Hammond Pros. And I went and looked at. I looked at the roster of the 1923 Packers. Yeah, it's an all time list.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yes. Yes.

[Danny Hyperts]

Here are some of the players on the 1923 Green Bay Packers.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Hyperts]

Cub, Buck. I could just stop there. Cub, Buck.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, my God, I love it.

[Danny Hyperts]

And I think he's done up only by the next player on this list. Jug Earp. No. Covet.

[Danny Kelly]

Jug Cut.

[Danny Hyperts]

Jug Earp. Cupbock and Jug Herp.

[Danny Kelly]

Chug.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Her. Was Jug Earp related to Wyatt?

[Danny Kelly]

Jug Earp?

[Danny Hyperts]

Jug. Jug Earp. What are we doing?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I love that.

[Danny Hyperts]

There are. We have Norbert Hayes. We have Dewey Lyle. We have Jab. Murray.

[Danny Kelly]

Murray, Jab. Jug and Cub.

[Danny Hyperts]

We have Merch. Merch and Co. We have Mert Basing. Cowboy Wheeler. And we have Whitey Wooden.

[Danny Kelly]

Did you say Cowboy Wooden?

[Danny Hyperts]

Cowboy Wheeler. There's also a guy on this list whose name is just Kenyon.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like a one name.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's got one name.

[Craig Korlbeck]

A mononym.

[Danny Hyperts]

I this. It's the craziest list. We got Cub, Jug, Jab. These are like workplace platforms.

[Danny Kelly]

We should do player of the 1920s packers or workplace platform sold for a billion dollars this week.

[Danny Hyperts]

We got Buck Gavin. Like, we got Dewey. I mean, this. This is unbelievable.

[Danny Kelly]

Jamf and Jug.

[Danny Hyperts]

I feel like Stefan like making up restaurants on weekend updates. Jug Earp. Cub Buck. New York's hottest club is Dewey. What's going on?

[Danny Kelly]

Emails, Gardener.

[Danny Hyperts]

I forgot Moose Gardner. You forgot Moose? I forgot Moose. Dude, it's. It's. It's wild.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wow.

[Danny Kelly]

Shout out to the 1923 Packers.

[Danny Hyperts]

Would you rather be named Cub Buck or Jugurp?

[Danny Kelly]

Cub Buck.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'd go Jug.

[Danny Hyperts]

Jug is cool.

[Danny Kelly]

Jug is incredible.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Jug.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, my God.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's so funny. He.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's see.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He was born in 1897.

[Danny Hyperts]

His photo looks like Cub.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Buck, right? Oh, I'm talking about Chug Earp.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, sorry. I'm going to send a photo. Cub, Buck and.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, send me a photo. Oh, God. Oh, my God.

[Craig Korlbeck]

That guy looks like a Jug.

[Danny Kelly]

He does. Cub does look like a Jug.

[Danny Hyperts]

Please. My father was Jug. Call me Cub.

[Danny Kelly]

His father was Bear.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This is Jug. I just sent you a picture. He looks. He looks pretty adorable.

[Danny Hyperts]

They also look like 20 years apart.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, he looks like he's like 35.

[Danny Kelly]

So Jug looks like the coach looks like gray hair. Maybe he was like 29. Looks like he's 50. The Ringer fantasy football show is brought to you by fanduel. Fanduel's changing the way you live bet football. It starts with next drive sgps. Now you can bet what's happening in the next drive. Will it end at a touchdown, a punt, a field goal? Then stack player props and build your bed exactly how you want it. And every NFL game day comes with a profit boost you can use on your next drive. SGP Monday night we have Cardinals Cowboys I kind of just think Jacoby were set man over 245 yards. The Cowboys defense is awful. I kind of think the Carl's offense just moves better. It just is like an actual operation. So I think that some of these over unders are Is that the line 245?

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Yeah man he's gone over that twice easily 320 and 279 in his two starts.

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[Craig Korlbeck]

His. His body language is not great. It hasn't been great for a while.

[Danny Hyperts]

I feel like that doesn't really jive well with Pete Carroll.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I know well all about that.

[Danny Hyperts]

Right. Composure and kind of.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't know. I guess he's competitive. He likes people who are competitive. So he wasn't dependent.

[Danny Hyperts]

He was yelling at the ref today and I. I could. He was chewing gum at such a clip. I couldn't. I couldn't believe he was talking and chewing that fast at the same time. It was unbelievable.

[Danny Kelly]

It's voracious. I feel like when Pete Carroll, he. I feel like he started this thing of. Maybe he didn't start it, but the coaches, the, like bend. They have where like every play, Pete Carroll kind of has knees. Your hands on his knees. And I feel like when he did it when he was younger, it felt like, oh, this guy is like, does yoga when he's good. And now I'm like, he kind of just looks old when he does.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He just can't stand for three hours.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

To do it now.

[Danny Hyperts]

De Niro, when they de aged him in the Irishman, where it was like, you look young, but the movements are old.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yes, Totally. He's trundling around.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. I'm like, you don't have any wrinkles, but you can't bend over.

[Craig Korlbeck]

When he's like beating up the store. The store owner guy, an old man, like, what are we doing here?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Craig, any intrusive thoughts?

[Craig Korlbeck]

He can't bend over.

[Danny Hyperts]

I don't think the two point conversion should be worth two points in fantasy. That's stupid.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It does feel like a lot.

[Danny Hyperts]

Because when a quarterback throws a touchdown, they only get four points in fantasy, even though it's worth six points in real life. But then when they throw an extra point, they get the same amount of points that it's worth for quarterback. Yes. I get the guy catching it, the quarterback. Like, I was going against Bo Nix today, who had a bad game. I was like rooting for him to fail. They score one touchdown, he throws an extra point, gets two points. I'm like, this is. That's so stupid.

[Danny Kelly]

So I agree he should get one in that the quarterback gets four. But I actually think fantasy should go back. I think quarterbacks should get six points for touchdowns that.

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, that's fine because then the ratio was even better.

[Danny Kelly]

Four and then two. Doesn't make any sense. It should be you get six points for the passing touchdown and two for the two point conversion, or just call it four and won and won. Yeah, but the answer was, I think the answer of why is that, frankly the rules of fantasy and all those default scoring is just long enough ago that it's. Before it was really fractional. Like it wasn't that long ago. Like even 10, 12 years ago, like, which isn't that like 20, 13, 14, whatever. Like, where there's still a lot of fantasy. It wasn't really the default to have the point. Like, it was kind of just. Your Fantasy score is 90 to 88.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

It used to be a big deal. Like if your guy had 89 yards, he still only had eight points and you were. He needed that extra yard.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

So I think part of it's. They're like, we're not gonna like, what are we. Like the. I don't know, the ratio is like, yeah, we're gonna give them like one point for two point conversion. It didn't happen enough for them to like, it just was going for two.

[Danny Hyperts]

So much more now. It's weird that they get half the points of a passing touchdown for a two point conversion.

[Danny Kelly]

Also strange that I, I think I'm. Every time, every time I look at this, I'm like, that can't be right. It doesn't count as a catch.

[Danny Hyperts]

No, it doesn't.

[Danny Kelly]

Which is such a funny quirk, which is also stupid, that it doesn't make. No, it's like you catch it. I don't. I think it's because it's the official. I think it. All the statistics are downstream. The, the official, like the playlist doesn't exist. Yes, it's. It's kind of. It's actually. You know what it is? It's probably most similar to what the NBA just did where they just remove the ha. The heaves. The like the end of half heaves from like, what's your social scorebook? Dude, it's so lame.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh my God. It's almost like snowball.

[Danny Kelly]

It is such snowball. Like, sorry, you know, is that like.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So they don't like mess up their field goal percentage.

[Danny Kelly]

Players don't want to get.

[Danny Hyperts]

Players didn't want to do it because they didn't want to ruin their three point percentage.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

So they've decided that. Which I get because over 50 stats. Well, it's one of those like the best shooter probably gets the ball at the end of every, you know, let's say you get at the end of a quarter, whatever. However many times if you miss, you're going to miss all of them. If you miss 16 threes over the course of a season, maybe it drops it. Is that going to cost you millions dollars down the line? Having said that, the league capitulating and be like fine, we'll take him out of the stats if you'll shoot it more like, please. But it's an untimed down. I guess it's not really a play. But yeah, it doesn't count as a catch.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know that's weird to me.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Don't get the yards either.

[Danny Hyperts]

I think so. Like if somebody this year, if Jackson, Smith and Jigba ties the record for catches in a season but he also has three 2 point conversions. That doesn't count. He hasn't. It's just you don't factor that.

[Danny Kelly]

I never thought about that.

[Danny Hyperts]

But yeah, yeah, that's very weird.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's funny. I've had that exact same thought though Craig before where I'm like the two point conversion for a quarterback feels like an a lot relative to their touchdown. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Just we should go to the fantasy scoring. I do think it should be fixed. Super Flex league should be the default play with two quarterbacks. The quarterback should get six points for a passing touchdown and you should get half point per first down for rushing and receiving in addition half ppr.

[Danny Hyperts]

And that's like we do that my home league. We do a half point per first time.

[Danny Kelly]

Any other intrusive thoughts?

[Craig Korlbeck]

I already did mine with the Joe Burrow thing, which I don't believe, but it makes you go a little bit. Hmm, interesting. That's what it makes you do.

[Danny Hyperts]

Okay, all right. Yeah, well put. It makes me go Things that make you go hmm.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Okay. You know.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. Well let's change the name of the category from intrusive thoughts to things that make you go. Hmm.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, yeah, that's that. That was like my packers thing today was just like something off about this team.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Okay.

[Danny Kelly]

Play of the day. I mentioned it, dude. Hard to beat the Drake London fourth and goal to tie the game.

[Danny Hyperts]

I mean Cam Little set the field goal record 68 yards today for the Jags.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh, that was my intrusive thought because.

[Danny Hyperts]

He, but he did 70 in the preseason.

[Danny Kelly]

Was totally underwhelmed by that. I'm like, this isn't the furthest kick this guy. I've watched this guy make this year. He made a longer one two months ago.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, but we can't start counting preseason stats. Come on.

[Danny Kelly]

For that specific thing. We can for the field goals, for field goal, anything else, it should matter. Field goal is a field goal. If anything, it's harder because all the back.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There's no stakes. Stakes are making start having spring practices and keeping stats on that.

[Danny Kelly]

I, I will say, though, the kicking, slippery slope.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I don't actually believe this strongly. I'm just like, I decided to go this way.

[Danny Hyperts]

The announcer, it's good for the pod.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'm like, you know what this is. We're not counting preseason stats. I'm, I'm done with that.

[Danny Kelly]

I will say, though, I, I, I know I've talked to this a lot, but we just needed, we just need to, we need to just acknowledge we're in the Juice bowl era. Like, the, the, the kicking ball is their juice. Like, this is insane. It's fine. I think we'll figure out if we like it or not. Like, we just got to live in this for a year or two and decide if we like this product. It is weird, though. Like, it's just weird. It's just, it's just weird that kickers can make stuff from 70.

[Danny Hyperts]

Like, I think the NFL is going to change the rules very soon about kickoffs where we, the, like, the field position is going to have to change.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Because it's too easy to get into field goal.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's way too easy.

[Danny Kelly]

I do think it was really interesting a week ago, back in my day when the Colts were wagon, to hear Shane Steichen describing about why he wanted to accept the ball first. And he's like, well, we're good on offense. And basically his point was it's not the same as it used to be to just, he's like, you actually want to limit kickoffs. You're like, I don't like the idea that damn. Like, if touchbacks at the 35 now. And it's like the combo of pushing the kick, the touchback to the 35 with the kick, the kicking ball rule now extending field goal range to 40. Shane Stichen's example is they need 15 yards to reach field range. So if you kind of get three points on your first drive, they're just going to get like. But then you have to kick off. They're kind of 15 yards away from getting three points back, which is adding more to the value getting touchdown.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's really interesting if you're punting too, you can. It's much easier to pin the other team back because the punters are better position game. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Which I haven't done a good enough job talking about. The punters are better too. It's not just the kickers. The punters are better pinning it and getting field position. They've been the kickers and punters are influencing the game more than ever. Which is just. I'm not saying it's bad, but it's just weird.

[Danny Hyperts]

Just. I think we need to get people angry about this and I think the way to do that is you have to rebrand. It's not the kicking balls is dumb that no one know it. It's torpedo balls. That's what they are.

[Danny Kelly]

That's good.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, they are.

[Danny Kelly]

And also it's torpedo balls. But also field goals are participation trophies. Now it's the field goals just participation trophies. Everyone gets a field goal. You're gonna get feel the guy who.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Missed the extra point to tie the game.

[Danny Kelly]

Well it's. But that's true. Yeah, that's true. The sockets got missed an extra point. But that's the thing. It's funny that all the kickers either can 10 teams have guys that can make it from 70 yards and then five teams don't have a guy that can make an extra point to win a game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

However. It's just weird that a scoring drive just. Isn't that the analogy for baseball? Instead of the. The torpedo bat. It's just juiced balls.

[Danny Hyperts]

I mean that's funny to say. So yeah. Juice balls.

[Danny Kelly]

The torpedo balls are juiced.

[Danny Hyperts]

Torpedo ball. Yeah. Maybe we just combine the two.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

I just like I'm. We can kick field goals further than ever. And I've never felt less about field goals. Like I. I'm just completely dead inside about field goals. They. They don't move me at all.

[Danny Kelly]

The oldest. I feel watching football is like back in my day when someone attempted a field goal from 60 plus they'd cut to it live because it was such a big deal. They would change the game and be like look at this. Can you believe they're trying a field goal from 60. There were four 60 yard field goals made in the 20th century and the 70. And I'm like, we waited an hour and a half to even talk about a 70 yard field go. You used to have to go to.

[Danny Hyperts]

The woods to find porn. Now it's just open your phone. It's everywhere. Too easy for everyone. It's not fun anymore.

[Danny Kelly]

Don't even talk about it. No. Not having a good time. Speaking of porn, I will say Rico Dowdle play of the day. Rico Dowdle did a touchdown. So he did the key and peel. He did the two pumps and then stopped at the two pump for the celebration and was like.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Because then it's not sexual.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Which is funny because it's like somehow they the key and peel identified some actual nameless aspect of the NFL rulebook where I kind of do think if Rico Dowdle did three pumps he would get flagged. But he did the two and he just isn't flagged.

[Danny Hyperts]

The pump rule.

[Danny Kelly]

Pump rule.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Colson level in touchdown was sick.

[Danny Kelly]

Probably was the play of the day since Drake London and the Falcons lost the game.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, Dowdle was flagged, was he? That's what Austin just texted us.

[Danny Kelly]

Oh. Oh God.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He should have got the third draconian just puritans out here. Let him do some pumps.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so sick that. Let him pump, man.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Let him fucking pump a little. Who cares?

[Danny Hyperts]

I know. What is this? Soccer? Ronald Reagan.

[Craig Korlbeck]

When I was growing up, everyone was saying suck it to everyone else.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, the triple horse man.

[Danny Kelly]

Triple xxx.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Whatever. Degeneration X.

[Danny Kelly]

We got so many emails about that being like I can't believe DK called Triple H Triple X. I It's I.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's doing an X and his name is triple and Triple X is a movie.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I understand I made an egregious mistake. But also I don't watch wrestling, so. Sorry. I do a lot. I did do a lot of suck it gesticulating back in the day.

[Danny Hyperts]

Interesting. We'll maybe we'll save that for power hour.

[Danny Kelly]

Colston Loveland is probably the winner for play of the day since they won.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh yeah, he picked. Yeah, he like pinballed off of three guys and then scored a 50 yard game winning touchdown.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pretty sick.

[Danny Kelly]

Worst play of the day. And then we'll get to some announcer stuff. Worst play of the day. I It has to be the Falcons kicker missing the extra point.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's always the kicker to tie the game point.

[Danny Kelly]

It's always kickers. It's pretty incredible.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I feel like once a week we text.

[Danny Hyperts]

Even with the torpedo ball he's missing. It's like, come on.

[Danny Kelly]

I will say that The Jordan love 4th and scramble to what should have been the Stupidest looking interception of the entire year. And then the guy just dropped the easiest ball I've ever seen. Any other coaching decision or any of the worst play of the day.

[Danny Hyperts]

No, I mean, the only other one I had was that Cincinnati challenged a play. Oh my God, DJ Moore, like, was trying to score on a. On a reverse. And they tried to. And the ball kind of came out of his hands and like flew into the end zone. So the. The Bengals challenged, trying to prove that it was a touchback and that it was the Bengals ball. But the current call on the field was that like he was out of bounds at the one. Yeah, the challenge. They ended up noticing in the. While reviewing the tape that he actually scored a touchdown and they just gave the Bears a touchdown.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Talk about your all time backfires. This is like the Sun Tzu thing. Hi, Fitz. That you said never interrupt your opponent when he's in the middle of making a mistake. Like, the Bears were about to run another play. It didn't look like they were going to challenge this dude. They were lined up. It looked like they were trying to go quickly. And then they. The Bengals threw a freaking challenge flag. They're like, no, hold on. He might have got in there. Let's let them take a closer look. Idiot.

[Danny Hyperts]

Idiot, Idiot.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Hey, honey, take a picture.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's like Harvey Oswald being like, hey, check out this is a Pruder film.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It reminds me. I still like have it memory hold or whatever. Just in my brain there was a playback. I don't know what it was like 10 years ago or something where Pete Carroll and the Seahawks had stopped the Rams on a third and short and they were lighting up to punt. And Pete Carroll fucking called timeout.

[Danny Kelly]

And then remember this?

[Craig Korlbeck]

And then the Rams decided to go for it. And they won the fucking game on that play. And I wanted to ring Carol's neck for that. I'm like, you just gave them the opportunity to be brave. What? Why did you call timeout, you fucking idiot? Like, it was. I was like, I've never been more mad watching a football game that moment. I don't remember the exact details, but I'm pretty sure they lost the game because of that play.

[Danny Kelly]

Announcers. Tom Brady, Magic Johnson tweets.

[Danny Hyperts]

Any.

[Danny Kelly]

Any Tom Brady or any of their announcer stuff from this week. Anyone Caught your eye, Tom Brady has.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Numerical numbers or he has. He has numbers for different types of throws. So a. And he talked about this incessantly on the broadcast today. A one throw is a laser. It's like a. Like a fastball. You're just throwing it as hard as you can in there. A two throw is a layered throw. So a little touch, like, over the defender. You're layering it over the. The linebacker or whatever. A three throw, which sounds like you're not. You can. That's not the right way to say it is a rainbow that the wide receiver can run under. And he talks about the one throw and the two throw and the three throw. I don't know. Probably like 10 or 15 times today. I've never heard anyone talk about this before. I thought it was kind of fascinating, and it was, like, kind of cool to. As an illustrative way to talk about, because I think he was talking about JJ McCarthy, and he's all fastballs and he needs to learn how to layer the passes a little bit more and blah, blah, blah. But I'm like, I just had never heard of this before, and. And I don't think Brady's ever said it before, at least not that I've heard.

[Danny Hyperts]

So the game clinching pass to Naylor, he was like, oh, that was a two throw.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I just, like, he kept bringing it up, like, every five minutes.

[Danny Hyperts]

It was like, he mentioned that over the weekend, and somebody's like, that's good. You should do that on the broadcast. And he was like, yeah, I should. People will love that. And then he. That was the only thing he talked about.

[Danny Kelly]

This leads me to another question, which is, what do you think Tom Brady. What's the craziest thing he could say about football? Really confidently they could get away with where he'd be like, I'm sure that must be a thing since Tom Brady said it like, eight times. Like, could he grade how sweaty the center's ass is and be like, yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

That'S where my head was going there.

[Danny Kelly]

He's like, oh, yeah, that's a four swamp from Robert Hainsey there. Yeah, they're gonna have to swap that. Yeah, that's some Jacksonville classic.

[Danny Hyperts]

What if he was like, sometimes, you know, for certain players, you know, you don't need smelling salts if the. The ass of the center in front of you smells bad enough. You can just do that sometimes. That's enough. Oh, it's like, there's like, famous centers. It's like, oh, Jason Kelsey, you don't want to be under center. Jason Kelsey.

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, he had this whole thing where someone was like, do you wash your belly button? Jason Kelsey was like, what?

[Craig Korlbeck]

No.

[Danny Hyperts]

Do you guys. I've had a long debate about this with my friends. Do you guys wash your like your forearms or your shins.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

As much as you would definitely. Do you make a concerted effort to like scrub your shins or your forearms?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like scrub? No.

[Danny Hyperts]

Or do you just, or do you just kind of let the soap kind of fall down? Maybe one wipe. That's it?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, one or I mean, yeah, it's certainly not scrubbing the shins and forearms. Like I, I would say that I would. It's not like I definitely not doing that every day, but it's not like never. So I would say, you know, yeah, the forearms get probably once a week.

[Danny Hyperts]

I'll conceal who had this take, but somebody had to take that. Like they don't wash their legs.

[Danny Kelly]

You definitely could get away with it.

[Danny Hyperts]

And it was just like people, they were confused. They're like, oh, people, you're like washing your legs or you just. I just let the soap run down.

[Danny Kelly]

Hahaha.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like, sure, you can wash your feet. Obviously you're what you're watching. Like, you know, the parts that really sweat. But it's like your legs, you need to wash your legs.

[Danny Kelly]

You know, you should definitely do it. But I do think, I do think a lot of people just don't do it. A lot of meds. Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like, oh, sure, if you ran, if you ran a marathon, you're probably, you know, scrubbing everything. But if you just had a normal day, are you really washing your legs?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, are you really washing.

[Danny Kelly]

I think the short answer is if I was at the gym. Yeah. And if I'm having a norm, if I'm waking up out of bed and I'm just like, like, probably not.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. I think Jason Kelsey had a whole.

[Danny Hyperts]

Thing about showering right? About like.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, he was like washing my feet. He's like, that's what the floor is for.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

It's the soap. It's just step in the soapy water.

[Danny Hyperts]

No, it's hard to wash in the shower.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You gotta wash them.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a little. No, it's that. That is a good point. Like if you do that over the course of your life, eventually you will fall.

[Danny Hyperts]

You know what they need? You know, in golf there's that little thing that you can scrape the dirt off your golf shoe with. They need something like that in the shower where you can like put your foot on it.

[Danny Kelly]

Wait, that's great.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Million dollar idea, Craig.

[Danny Hyperts]

So you don't have to bend over.

[Danny Kelly]

How do you not get it?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Moldy the foot caddy.

[Danny Hyperts]

I don't know how you get it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

I Don't know, but I'm sure we can figure that out.

[Danny Kelly]

I think I want to. Craig's Christmas gift.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Talking of showering, it reminds me that, like, at least for me, everything in the shower is very much, very routine oriented. Right. Like you do. You do the shower in almost the exact same routine. Or at least I do as I do every other day. Have you ever tried drying off in a different, like, order? What you normally.

[Danny Kelly]

Incredibly taxing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Like, I do it. Exactly. I've started to realize this. I do my dry off exactly the same way every single time.

[Danny Kelly]

Actually is whatever 20.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's almost 40 years.

[Danny Kelly]

Difficult to not do it the way.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, it's like muscle memory.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's like putting your pants on with the wrong leg first or whatever. So just try it. Or wiping your ass with the wrong hand, which feels completely alien. Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Do you put your pants on the same way every time?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wait. For sure. For sure.

[Danny Hyperts]

Do you put your pants on first or your socks?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Pants.

[Danny Kelly]

Pants. Pants.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You put your socks on first.

[Danny Kelly]

Put your socks on first.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, I do. I think I put on my socks first because to me, when you already have your pants on, it's more. It's harder to get your socks and it's like. Then you gotta like sit down while you're in jeans. Or sometimes if you have high socks, you gotta like pull the jeans up to get the socks on and then put the jeans back down over the socks. To me, if you just put the socks on first, then it's easy.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This explanation is hilarious. I don't. There's nothing wrong with doing it that way, but it's so foreign.

[Danny Hyperts]

Literally last night before we went out, Liz was like, it's weird you put your socks on first.

[Danny Kelly]

She's like, it is weird.

[Danny Hyperts]

She was like, that must be a guy thing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Nope.

[Danny Kelly]

No, it's not for me. No, it's not.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Let's do a poll on this. Yeah, let's do it. Do you put.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, let's do a poll. Do you put.

[Danny Hyperts]

I don't like putting my socks on after I already have my pants on.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, here's the question. Socks. What? What if you put your socks on and like, do you know what outfit you already want to wear?

[Danny Hyperts]

I just wear white socks usually.

[Danny Kelly]

But what if. Even if you wear like black shoes and like light pants or what? Black, I guess. I don't know. Darker shoes are saying that don't go with white socks.

[Danny Hyperts]

What does the color have to do with it?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, here's. Well, this is where I'm going as well with this. I am 30. I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You just trying to visualize, you know.

[Danny Hyperts]

I feel kind of be a part of your life.

[Danny Kelly]

I feel that I'm completely. I feel like I still have no idea how to wear socks, like, in society. Like, I. I feel like I'm so underprepared. I am. My, my. Like, I have the bare minimum. I feel that there are all these rules around socks that I still don't understand.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You could just follow your heart on that.

[Danny Kelly]

The idea that like. Like, you're supposed to just, like there's like, eras where it's like you have to wear socks either so high you don't show any ankle, or like, you have to show so much ankle that it's like you're not wearing socks, even though if you weren't wearing socks, that's, like, kind of crazy. And like, I just. There's all these rules around socks.

[Danny Hyperts]

Well, I think what you're describing is just like, the trends of fashion that, you know, things come and go now. Like, the low ankle sock, which used to be the grossest thing you could wear, is now kind of back, and now the low socks is full again.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's back?

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. Like my dad. My dad in, like 2002, taking me on, like, a camping trip, would wear, like, new balances with, like, a low ankle sock. And now that is just completely cool again.

[Danny Kelly]

I. I feel like I have gotten all my sock advice from a mishmash of people from different eras of sock rules, and I have no sense.

[Danny Hyperts]

Are you seeking a lot of sock counsel from people?

[Danny Kelly]

No, I need. So if someone could email me at ringer Fantasy football gmail dot com and tell me how to wear socks.

[Danny Hyperts]

Socks?

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. I feel like I have all these, like, conflicting socks.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Is there really that many rules?

[Danny Kelly]

Dude, I don't know how to wear socks, man. I don't know. Just like. I just feel like I'm lost.

[Danny Hyperts]

All right, well, I. I think I could help you.

[Danny Kelly]

I think so you could just wear white socks every day. And that's fine because I was told that's not okay. So I bought all these other kinds of socks. Who told you that?

[Danny Hyperts]

What other kinds are there? What are you talking about?

[Danny Kelly]

Trying to talk to you guys about. So someone told me a while ago, you can't just wear white socks all the time. What do you got, blue shoes or black shoes or something? Apparently you can't wear white socks with black shoes.

[Danny Hyperts]

No. You can't wear white socks with black shoes. Are you. That one looks a little bit more stark. The contrast.

[Danny Kelly]

What about dark blue? Where does it end?

[Danny Hyperts]

It depends on the outfit. If you're wearing like.

[Danny Kelly]

So that's not what you said before.

[Danny Hyperts]

But it's like you. I don't know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's not that many iterations.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like if you're wearing like dark dress shoes in a suit, you're probably not going to wear white socks. But if you're wearing blue sneakers and blue white socks.

[Danny Kelly]

Socks, great example. Dark dress shoes in a suit. What color is the suit? Dark blue.

[Danny Hyperts]

Sure.

[Danny Kelly]

What color socks you wear?

[Danny Hyperts]

You can wear a lot of different colors. It has to be like. It can't just can't be white. But I think you can get away with anything.

[Danny Kelly]

Can't be white. But can you wear black socks with dark blue suit? If it's brown shoes, no, you.

[Danny Hyperts]

You don't do blue.

[Danny Kelly]

So what fucking color socks do I wear with blue suit and brown shoes? That should be a simple thing.

[Danny Hyperts]

Let's see.

[Danny Kelly]

That's not white or black. But those are the socks I have. Craig.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's less sock dependent though. What you're really just talking about is like, like matching colors.

[Danny Kelly]

No, but the socks is the hard part. I mean. Yes, but the socks is like, how many socks do you have?

[Danny Hyperts]

Like, there are rules, right? It's like you don't wear brown shoes with a black suit. Like there are.

[Danny Kelly]

There are just rules to DK's point. Yes, you can Google it, but then you're a idiot. Googling, what color socks do I wear? Oh, and it's like, I'm tired of this. You can't live on this way anymore.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Podcast now. God, you could have just googled it. No one would have known.

[Danny Hyperts]

Now Google it. Millions of people know that you don't know how to work.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Millions.

[Danny Kelly]

I don't give hundreds of. I need help. Email me anyway.

[Danny Hyperts]

Help me Tom Cruise.

[Danny Kelly]

Help me, Tom Cruise.

[Danny Hyperts]

Help me Oprah.

[Danny Kelly]

Oprah. Oprah Winfrey.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Man. Craig gets. Craig puts the socks on first. That blows me away.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, do that, do that.

[Danny Hyperts]

I prefer it.

[Danny Kelly]

But that was the point I was trying to make is do you know.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Your outfit also just try, try mix it up tomorrow in terms of.

[Danny Hyperts]

I mean, look, there are times where I'll forget I'll have the pants on already. And I'm like, oh, I gotta put socks on. I'm not gonna take my pants off to put it. The socks on. But if I.

[Danny Kelly]

If.

[Danny Hyperts]

When I'm like out of the shower and then I'm getting Ready? I. Sometime I think I do sock first.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You know how like in Fight Club they have the thing where they have a assignment every day? Here's my assignment to you guys. Dry off. Dry off in a different order.

[Danny Kelly]

I like that. Tomorrow we're going to check.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It'll blow your mind.

[Danny Kelly]

That's good.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's going to feel weird.

[Danny Kelly]

All right. Stadium pulse of the week. My stadium pulse is just putting on socks. Craig, what's your stadium pulse of the week?

[Danny Hyperts]

This is just my excuse to talk about the Dodgers game last night because my stadium pulse is Yamamoto coming into pitch in the bottom of the ninth in game seven after throwing 96 pitches the day before and pitching two and two thirds inning scoreless. But I, I. So I went out to a bar. I went to Big Dean's, which is like the best sports bar in la.

[Danny Kelly]

I knew you were at Big Dean's on the Instagram story. I almost texted you if you were a big dance.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like, that's my favorite.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Where's Big Beans?

[Danny Hyperts]

It's under the pier in Santa Monica.

[Danny Kelly]

It's a great bar.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's like kind of tucked away. I think it's the best sports bar. But anyway, I just, I thought that was, I think the best baseball game I've ever watched. I know it's. Everyone always says that and it's like, well, actually game six of 2012, for me, that was the best baseball game I've ever watched. And the. I think it was also the best sports bar experience I've ever watched. Being surrounded by all these Dodger fans in la. Liz is a Dodger fan, her whole family, big Dodger fan. So I'm, I'm like kind of, kind of getting sucked in a little bit. Like, I'm like, definitely rooting for the Dodgers because I, I know a lot of Dodger fans, but because I'm an ace fan and all my friends from the Bay are going to fudgeing hate me because they're all Giants, but like.

[Danny Kelly]

But you know what's funny?

[Danny Hyperts]

I'm kind of like, this is fun. I'm having fun.

[Danny Kelly]

The Dodgers have absolutely replaced the Yankees of the early 2000s. It's like everyone hates the Dodgers. Like, everyone who wasn't a Dodgers fan was rooting against the Dodgers for this because, like, the hatred of, like the killing of the sport of everything.

[Danny Hyperts]

I get it, I get it.

[Danny Kelly]

You're the only person that I think has the ticket to being a Dodgers fan because you live in LA and the A's are spat in the Face of everyone.

[Danny Hyperts]

Like, I'm not going to become a Dodgers fan, but I am going to probably. I'm going to root for them.

[Danny Kelly]

So. Okay, well, that's kind of sounds similar.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I do think it is interesting, though, from my point of view, because the Mariners lost in Game 7 to the Blue Jays, the Blue Jays took it to game seven in the World Series, and, like, transitive property. I'm like, so the Mariners maybe could have won the World Series. Like, that drives me insane. But when you're picking who to root for when your team is out, I think that's kind of an interesting.

[Danny Kelly]

Who are you rooting for, dk Before I say anything, I was rooting for.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Dodgers, and I didn't have, like, a specific reason for it.

[Danny Kelly]

I watched it, too. It's because the Yankees. But the Yankees lost to the Blue Jays and the Mariners lost to the Blue Jays. And I was like, I'm not rooting for the Blue Jays. And they're like, oh, you're gonna root for the evil Empire thing? I'm like, yeah, they didn't beat us this year. I'm like, you know, I can't do.

[Craig Korlbeck]

But it's like, I don't actually have, like, any ill will towards the Blue Jays. I'm just. I don't know. For whatever reason, I was.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, I don't know what it was, but I. I literally went into this being like, all my friends, all my group text, everyone's like, we want the Blue Jays to win. And I. I kind of told myself, okay. And then I just. I watched game one, and I just. I let my body speak to me, and it was just like, for some reason, I felt myself wanting the Dodgers to score.

[Danny Kelly]

Sometimes you just know, like, you. You, While you're watching the game, you, like, sometimes like, who you really want. And so. But to the. I do want to talk about that game.

[Danny Hyperts]

That game, dude, that was the most unbelievable game I've ever seen in my life.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The. The play when the guys ran into each other at the warning track and still.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, my God.

[Danny Kelly]

I think that was the big. I think that was the worst error. Like, Kike running it. I don't know exactly what goes, but generally speaking, in baseball, if the center fielder calls you off, like, you're off. Like, the center fielder gets total dominance.

[Danny Hyperts]

But he had to. Pies. Had to run so hard.

[Danny Kelly]

Whatever the commus. And I know he had just entered the game for the center fielder. However, that, to me, is the worst error in the history of baseball. And he happened to catch the fucking ball.

[Danny Hyperts]

Crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

But if Kike. Imagine if PI. Again, I. I get how it happens, because Bias came so far away to get it. But he's the center fielder, and if he's calling for it, or maybe he's coming so far when he's not calling for it. Whatever. If they. If KK Hernandez had ran into him hard enough and he hadn't caught the ball, that would have been the most meme thing ever. That would have been the worst error in the history of baseball. I mean, it just hadn't caught, like Bill Buckner. It was basically Bill Buckner.

[Danny Hyperts]

It was bases loaded with two outs in the bottom of the ninth. That.

[Danny Kelly]

That catch, like seven.

[Danny Hyperts]

There were a lot of incredible plays, but the context of all of them made them all timers. Like, there was like the Miguel Rojas home run in the nint.

[Danny Kelly]

That was crazy.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Had a hit in like a month, dude.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so funny too, that the Dodgers, the whole thing is, well, their payroll, they have all these MVPs they just spent their way. And that fucking Rojas is the guy that actually goes and hits the home.

[Danny Hyperts]

Run, of course, ninth in the lineup, right? And everyone's like, oh, if you give up a hit to him, like, Shohei's like, that's what matters. Like, you got to get Shohei out. Rojas, no big deal. And he cranks a homer. And then, I mean, the big Deans was going absolutely fucking crazy. He hadn't had a hit in a month. And the Joe Davis, he just had the most genuine. He just screamed, no way. After he hit the homer. I sent it. I sent it to Carlos. Oh, wait, I want to play the clip of Joe Davis yelling, no way. I don't know why. It just jumped out to me. I've watched it 10 times.

[Danny Kelly]

Drilled the left field and deep and gone. No way.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's just so good.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so good. It was so good.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's so authentic.

[Danny Kelly]

I was watching this. So I was at a wedding this weekend. Shout out my friend Mike, who. This is the bachelor party where I pulled my hamstring. So shout out to my friend Mike, who got married this weekend. We were in Charleston and the. After the wedding, we showed up and I think the after party, probably the eighth inning, the seventh inning. We're honestly, like, right when the game got really good. We show up at the seventh inning and all these. Everyone, like, really likes baseball in this group. But then this scene is kind of set. Everyone kind of like locks in. And we were all watching and frankly, everyone was Rooting for the Blue Jays in this group. I kind of was secretly rooting for the Dodgers. Cause I'm mad. But everyone really wanted the Dodgers to lose, which I think most people did, but I was mostly just one. I can't believe Yamamoto came in and, like, I didn't know it was physiologically possible. Once you've thrown 100 pitches in a baseball game, to the next day just come in and throw another six. Like, actually hit 100 miles an hour. Yeah, like, I. I knew you could pitch him two days rest or whatever, but I didn't know you could pitch a hundred miles an hour that like, just. I didn't know you could do that at that. That was wild.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. And all his pitches were basically just as good as they were the night before. And, dude, this was almost. This was basically the second time he. He had done this. Like, game two, he pitches a complete game, and then game three is the warming game. He warms up like it was crazy.

[Danny Kelly]

He deserved it. I will say, though, I feel like that we're burying the lead though. The play of the game that will.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The.

[Danny Kelly]

The picture that will be preserved forever is the picture of Will Smith, the catcher, not the guy like, catch, like. Like his foot on the plate. Oh, God, Keener.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So close.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, it's Keener. Falafel. Like the. Yeah, his name's hard to pronounce. The Yankees fans just called him IKF back in the day. I have no idea how he batted cleanup for the Blue Jays at any point in the Series, but he's like. Like sliding in. And how far is he off from scoring the game when he run in the World Series? Like two inches. And the combination of everything. Of one sliding in with his legs instead of head first, which is like, you know, baseball 101. I know there's big studies or whatever they say it's faster or don't fly.

[Danny Hyperts]

Or you just run through it.

[Danny Kelly]

No, well, you gotta slide. But the other thing is, he had no lead off third. I get. There's a thing where Muncie's playing closer to third. So if you hit a line drive and catch it, you get doubled up. Doesn't fucking matter.

[Danny Hyperts]

He said in an interview he did that deliberately. He was like. I was told by my coaches to stay close to third in case months he doubled me up.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, that was fucking wrong and stupid, clearly. Because if he had been one literally 12 inches closer, the Blue Jays would have won the World Series.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Well, that. I think that high. Fitz, though, that is. And this is going to Be so brutal for Jay's fans because there was so many moments in the series that I've never. They just could have had. It was insane that they didn't win.

[Danny Kelly]

It was insane.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Miraculous that the Dodgers won. You know what I mean?

[Danny Hyperts]

Even the wedgie in the game before, which saved the. Which really helped the Dodgers.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah.

[Danny Hyperts]

That would have been a run scored in the ninth, and, you know, you don't know where things would have gone after that. It was.

[Craig Korlbeck]

There's so many what ifs. It's just. It's absolutely brutal from a sports perspective. Like, that is one of the most devastating ways to lose.

[Danny Kelly]

I totally agree. And it's like, I know that he could get doubled up a third, but that. I. I'm not a baseball expert.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It.

[Danny Kelly]

That doesn't mean. I don't understand how that. That. That correlates to having to be that close to the bag as he was. I don't really understand that.

[Danny Hyperts]

It sounds like, though, he. He was just doing what he was told. Like, he didn't. That wasn't a gut call.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I know. No, I totally. And like, that. I mean, he just got subbed to the game because Boba Shet, they were like, he can't run. He can't be. I mean, he's not.

[Danny Hyperts]

Dude. There was. There was, like, eight different plays that all came down to, like, an inch.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Serious.

[Danny Hyperts]

In the final four endings, it was. I mean, there was a kike, like, grounded or the pitcher, and. And Vlad, like, kind of missed the base. And, like, he almost made it. I mean, there was so many.

[Danny Kelly]

It was wild. I mean, there was a. Yeah, there was a. The Freddie replay. I. I will say, though, the. That ninth. That one. And also Will Smith's foot coming off home plate.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know.

[Danny Kelly]

And getting back onto home plate. And I'm watching the replay and, you know, my feeling about replay, generally speaking, which is the NFL standard, at least, is clear and obvious. And if you have to watch it six fucking times, it's not so clear and not so obvious, is it? And it's a little different, though, in baseball when it's like, yeah, so, like, the whole championship's on the line. Like, it's just crazy to, like, be micromanaging. Like, Will Smith's foot. When does it drop on the plate? And there. It just.

[Danny Hyperts]

It was. It was, I think, genuinely the best sports viewing experience I've ever had watching a game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You. You texted this to me, too. Like, playoff baseball.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's better than anything. It's not even close.

[Craig Korlbeck]

So, I mean, I Get an adrenaline headache after every game just watching it because it is so intense. Every single pitch matters. Every single pitch is just. And the. The. The precision that they have to have on so many of these plays is incredible. I'm so. I'm so impressed by baseball players in general because, like, it's just such a hard sport to play.

[Danny Hyperts]

Heifitz and I talk a lot. Hi, Fitz. You and I talk about, like, the Elame ending and how basketball would be improved if there's an elamending. They're basically a target score you need to reach. That way you can't just, like, the whole fouling thing would go away.

[Danny Kelly]

Basketball should end with a basket, not a series of fouls.

[Danny Hyperts]

I. I didn't. I saw somebody tweet this yesterday, and I. I never really thought about it this way, but baseball is the only sport where you can't run out the clock. And, yeah, so it's. It's like. It's just even, like, everybody. It's 27 up, 27 down.

[Danny Kelly]

And.

[Danny Hyperts]

And it's so. In football, it's like, oh, the Seahawks were up 30. Like, you run the ball, like, run out the clock, blah, blah. Baseball, it's like the same amount of people have to hit no matter what, right? And it's so close.

[Craig Korlbeck]

You got to get through them all.

[Danny Hyperts]

It is essentially kind of like the Elam ending, where it is always going to be the same. And the end of the game is part. When it's a close game, basketball, when it's a close game, sometimes the end sucks because it slows down. The pacing changes. Fouls become a huge factor. Baseball is the exact opposite. Everything just becomes so much more electric.

[Danny Kelly]

And the thing about playoff baseball, that. That has aged well is that I think. Shout out to my friend Zuck, who pointed this out to me. I think he's not invented this, but. Yeah, yeah, Zuck. No, right. Between him training all the UFC black belts. Yeah, yeah. Shout out. So, as Mark Zuckerberg, my dear friend, once told me, baseball is obviously longer, and it's a whole. It's frankly just more of a commitment. But the payoff, it's a lot. Baseball's a lot more like reading a book because there are so the people, the characters. You spend so much more time with these people. There's so much more, frankly, just, I guess, data, for lack of a better term, there's so much more history. It's like the difference in watching Game of Thrones or reading the books or whatever, where you have so much more history with these Characters and somehow some way during a baseball season, all of it comes back around and pays off during like these World Series runs. And when you actually get see your team make a playoff run, all of it somehow comes back, the good and the bad. The guy who can't field, Fucking can't field. Or the guy who does this, like these little moments like everything comes back around in these incredible ways that you somehow see coming but also never expect. And, and, and so there is such a. And I really do think so. Because baseball, watching it, coming to the playoff, baseball, it's kind of like watching Game of Thrones where you're like, damn, this TV show sick. But the people were there the whole time. The emotional experience is a lot more like finishing the best book you've ever seen. And so it just. And I think that's why baseball fans who love baseball are so addicted to baseball. Is there? Because there's nothing quite like seeing a playoff run for some team you spent 162 games with.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, like, like Liz, my wife is not a huge sports fan. She, you know, she's. But this, this Dodger series, her brothers are like die hard baseball f fans. Die hard Dodger fans. And she now this series completely changing. She watched the whole 18 inning game like alone, basically just watched the whole game.

[Craig Korlbeck]

And is now, that's the sure sign.

[Danny Hyperts]

So invested in it. And, and now she's like getting all into it, which I think is awesome. But Heifetz, I think one thing that baseball does that's cool is like, even though the game is the same length as a football game, close enough or whatever, what baseball does is like Miguel Rojas could be up to bat for like a minute or two. And you, the announcers then have time to like tell you about.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes.

[Danny Hyperts]

And there's like, it's a three, two count. He's falling off a couple. It's like so he's like seen 10 pitches. And if that, you know, that happens a few times over the course of the game, there are these baked in moments to build the narrative of the game. And football, it's like some random player catches a pass. It's like you have like 10 seconds to be like, oh, he was a fifth round rookie out of Kansas State. And then you don't even know what he looks like. And then he's on the bench before the next play starts. And it's like baseball. You could kind of learn all these storylines over the course of a seven game series series.

[Danny Kelly]

The, the, the structure of football and one of the quiet Reasons football has become popular as a television product is that football is perfectly paced for the keeping of attention in the building of suspense. The way it works. But to your point, base. I totally agree. The way at bats work in baseball is a perfect way to build relationships with everybody on the team. It's really weird that every single player on the team gets actual like one to two minutes of FaceTime, sometimes four minutes of FaceTime. Four times a game.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. Two announcers just sit back and talk about them for five minutes.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. And you learn.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I think I was gonna add to that, like, the, the majesty of baseball, I feel like, is maybe it's just for an American. It's. It's because it's part of our tradition or whatever. But, like, going to games, going to baseball games, I'd never been. I think I hadn't been to a playoff baseball game in like 20 something years. And so going to that Mariners game, the majesty of it all is so cool. The sounds of the ballpark, like that when Carlos played that clip, when you can hear the crack of the bat, like the home run go. I'm like, man, that just gives me goosebumps. It's so cool. And then the relievers walking on and get, like, doing their, Their slow theater bullpen. It is. It's theater. It's so good.

[Danny Kelly]

We should do a fantastic baseball league next year.

[Danny Hyperts]

I know. We actually should.

[Danny Kelly]

We shoot fantasy baseball. I see it. I don't know if we're getting old or whatever. Baseball's getting better, but I, I.

[Danny Hyperts]

And like, like, I've been in LA for like eight years now, and I'm kind of getting sucked into. I'm like, oh, this is. It's cool to be in a city when it, when like, a team is doing well and all the people in the city, like, walking down the bars last night, every bar is blasting Randy Newman's I love la. Everyone's. I'm like, this is so cool. This would be such a root for it cooler.

[Danny Kelly]

Well, it's. I mean, hard for. I mean, super easy to not root for for literally everybody else.

[Danny Hyperts]

Same when you're there.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, I know. No, I know. I wish that literally this team that you've fallen in love with was anything other than this juggernaut behemoth.

[Danny Hyperts]

I'm not falling in love. I'm just. I'm. It would have been any team of any city.

[Danny Kelly]

It's cool. And the thing about, the thing about LA is, like, fan base. It's not the LA caricature of, like, the fans Dodgers fans are the realest fans, but people don't get rid of that. It's the Dodgers just represent the death of the sport, which I will say is also better for the sport overall, because you do.

[Danny Hyperts]

What do the Mets represent, then?

[Danny Kelly]

Well, the bumbling be. They're the. They're the Browns.

[Danny Hyperts]

Don't they have the highest payroll over the Dodgers?

[Danny Kelly]

You know who's paid the most cash in the NFL over the last four years?

[Danny Hyperts]

The Saints, the Eagles.

[Danny Kelly]

You know who's paid the second most? The Browns.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, God.

[Danny Kelly]

Like the Browns. The Mets are the Browns. It's like they've spent a ton of money. The owner is $20 billion and nothing better to do. And I'll.

[Danny Hyperts]

I'll cap it off with this. I decided that I will allow my children to be Dodgers fans. However, I will not allow them to be Lakers fans. That's not happening. And I don't know how that's going to work. I don't know how I'm going to allow them to be Dodgers, but not Lakers, but then root for the Warriors. It's going to be very complicated, but I'm going to pull it off.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah, you figure that out. I think you could figure that out.

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's funny, I don't have any. Like, I think Seattle sports is one of the most remote in terms of. Compared to all the other major metropolitan sports areas. So, like, people here are just Seattle fans, generally speaking.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's nice. That's easy.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, it's easy. Also, it kind of sucks sometimes.

[Danny Hyperts]

Dude, I just love the Joe Davis.

[Danny Kelly]

No way.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Wait.

[Danny Kelly]

Play it one more time.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I want to hear the crack drilled.

[Danny Kelly]

To left field and deep and go on. No way.

[Danny Hyperts]

So good.

[Danny Kelly]

It's so good.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No way. Like, I just.

[Danny Hyperts]

I don't know why that I was like, oh, that was just completely genuine.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Also, the great thing of this is, I mean, every sport does this in some way, but the fact that baseball players, when they win a big series or win. Win a big game, they just go and drink beer. Oh, they do it in other sports, too. I. I recognize that.

[Danny Kelly]

I have to.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Funny.

[Danny Kelly]

I have to say one other thing.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Just chugging beers.

[Danny Kelly]

Ohtani joined the desk after they won and he. The. The. Which. It's a solid. I. If.

[Danny Hyperts]

I hope you're about to say what you're going to say, because I'm obsessed with this theory.

[Danny Kelly]

I think that motherfucker speaks perfect English.

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, he does.

[Danny Kelly]

He. He, like, he goes through the interpreter for everything and at the end he's like, thank you, guys. And it was just like the most. Like, if you just heard him say, thank you, guys, you would never in a billion years be like, if that guy doesn't speak English, you'd be like, oh, yeah, he was. He's like American. Like, he and I. So the theory that's been floated that I've hear is that Ohtani does the interpreter charade because he's so famous in Japan. He's so famous here that he doesn't want to talk to anyone. He just wanted people coming up to him. And so he just kind of. The whole charade.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

To focus on his craft, and he doesn't want people to speak to him.

[Danny Hyperts]

He just doesn't want to deal with the media. It's genius.

[Danny Kelly]

But when someone from the LA Sparks shows up, like, what's her. What's her name?

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Cameron Brink who.

[Danny Kelly]

Yes. Cambridge. When she's there, suddenly he doesn't need an interpreter.

[Danny Hyperts]

He's like, hey, Cam.

[Danny Kelly]

Suddenly his English is great.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, dude. There was a tweet of that interview hypnosis, and it says. It said that. Thank you, guys. Was a little too smooth. Like, at the end of the interview.

[Danny Kelly]

It'S like, it was too smooth.

[Danny Hyperts]

His guard was down. He's like, thank you, guys. See ya.

[Danny Kelly]

And you're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What was that? Why don't we just do this for the last also? But, yeah, it's like every time there's like four questions, the interpreter, it's like, oh, I get to ask two questions now instead of five because I. This is great. He probably saves them all the time. I get it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

He's filibustering interviews.

[Danny Kelly]

He's filibustering interviews. He's a. He's a fil. The interpreter is just a filibusterer.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's. It's amazing.

[Danny Kelly]

Which I've started thinking of now because now when people ask him stuff, I've started being like, I think his interpret. Like, if you sometimes when you hear, like, Hispanic baseball players with their interpreter, like, sometimes it takes a long time to relay a long question.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Right.

[Danny Hyperts]

And sometimes he's like, I. I heard what they said.

[Craig Korlbeck]

I'll just.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yes.

[Danny Kelly]

Sometimes Ohtani's. I'm like, that was really short for, like, a long question. I'm like, I feel like maybe Ohtani just completely understood what was said.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Anyway. Love him even more. I actually. Yeah, I love him even more. This episode is brought to you by Shaky's, the People's Pizza Parlor. Your football might be fantasy, but your meal better be real. Shakey's all you can eat bunch of lunch dominates an unlimited assortment of piping hot pizzas, crispy fried chicken, mojo potatoes, pasta, fresh salad bar sides and dessert ready when you are. All you can eat one low price fast food is for rookies. Get fresh food fast with Shakey's all you can eat bunch of lunch. Find the parlor near you@shakey's.com Burn Book. I have one guy this week. I think we should burn Xavier Worthy for the Chiefs. Oh.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, wow.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, so Xavier Worthy is. We have not talked about him much, but we in October. So Xavier Worthy, long story short, he's had one game with double digit points this year and you probably did not play him in that game. Like he got hurt in week one, got you a zero, missed two weeks, came back. I went back and checked and Yahoo. More than half of people did not play him the way he came back because he had the shoulder injury and it was questions about him. He had double digit points that week. He had like 14. It's nothing special. But then everyone's been playing him since. And since then he's had one good game. He's had like 8 and 6 and 8 and 4 and like he hasn't done anything. Rasheed Rice is getting the ball like every goddamn play. Like you don't watch the Chiefs and think, I want to play Worthy, but you play him every week. He's done nothing for you.

[Danny Hyperts]

That's a good one. I was going to suggest Bill Merritt. Who?

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah, he's up there too.

[Danny Hyperts]

The only thing with receiver, at least like odds are you have another wide receiver you could play. Bill. It's like running backs are so tough. I think people were, you know, sold this upside play with merit. He had a good week one, then he had three shitty weeks and then he had a great week five. And then people have probably been trying to chase that high for a month. He hasn't had over five points in a month. And he's a running back. Like I checked. Like he's starting in all the three leagues I'm in this week. Like people are still depending on this guy to be like a serviceable RB2.

[Danny Kelly]

I'm gonna get. Yeah, I'm okay. So I'm gonna pull him up. You know what? Yahoo, he was started and he was benched in 3/4 of Yahoo leagues for the week that he went off week five, of course. So you're probably right. Like Bill is probably the answer.

[Danny Hyperts]

And then everyone's like, oh great, like Merit's back. And then he's goose egged you basically for a month.

[Danny Kelly]

That's really what the Burn Book is for. It's not just someone consistently bad.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. They burn you.

[Danny Kelly]

It's someone who reels you back in the siren song.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

All right. Yeah. I think it's Bill Merritt.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Sorry, Bill.

[Danny Kelly]

All right, Bill Merritt, you're in the Burn Book. So week one, we burned Jalen Waddle. Week two, we burned Mark Andrews. Week three, Isaiah Pacheco. So week four, Calvin Ridley. Week five, trivia. And Henderson, who we've kind of wanted to burn every week since week six, Tony Pollard. Week seven, Justin Fields. Week eight, Alvin Camaro, who had. Did he even have a full point today?

[Craig Korlbeck]

He had negative points in at least one of my leagues.

[Danny Kelly]

Negative.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Yeah. He had a fumble. Lost fumble.

[Danny Kelly]

Saints had the 13th lowest time of possession in the history of the NFL today. So it's kind of sick to even have negative points. Yeah. Accomplishment. Week nine, Bill Merritt, you're in the Burn Book, man. That. That's really. That. That one. He's the first. Bill Merritt's the first person we burned in a long time that I actually, like, feel bad about doing it.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah. The rest of them are kind of like these players that we always kind of have, like, a negative relationship with merit. We really wanted it to work, but.

[Danny Kelly]

You'Re right, because if you benched him for week five, it's 1965324. I mean, which is just like a phone number. Like, that's not a real fantasy player.

[Craig Korlbeck]

875309.

[Danny Kelly]

Okay, thank you, Craig. Thank you, DK. Thank you, Carlos. Thank you, Kai. Thank you, Ronnie. Thank you, Austin. Thank you, everybody for listening. Email us at ringerfancy football gmail.com. we need fantasy court. We need trivia, we need emails. We vote in our poll about whether you put socks on before pants or pants on before socks. If you do have a good sense of style and you have a good, quick, dirty way to do socks, like, just let me know. Just a good socks. I don't know. Good sock advice. I'll take it. What was the other thing we wanted? Emails. I don't remember. I think that was it. We'll go with that for now.

[Danny Hyperts]

People are gonna be mad at me that I was. I'm like, oh, I kind of like the Dodgers now. It's like, oh, cool, you hopped on board the.

[Danny Kelly]

No, people are gonna love Juggernaut.

[Craig Korlbeck]

The Evil Empire.

[Danny Kelly]

No, no. Everyone's gonna love that you became.

[Danny Hyperts]

I just want people to know I'm not. I'm not Adopting them. I'm just saying I. Now you know, I'm cool.

[Danny Kelly]

No Warriors, Dodgers, people are going to love it.

[Danny Hyperts]

I'm cool with them.

[Danny Kelly]

Goes well with Duke.

[Danny Hyperts]

Yeah, yeah.

[Danny Kelly]

Just love Grayson Allen and Steph and Ohtani. I get it. Thank you, Lord.

[Danny Hyperts]

Lord.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Thank you, Randy Newman.

[Danny Hyperts]

Nice.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Or Tommy 2 Tone. I think that's who sings 867-530-9.

[Danny Kelly]

Tommy 2 Tone.

[Danny Hyperts]

That sounds like a character in Goodfellas.

[Danny Kelly]

I literally think it is a character. Tommy 2 Tone. That sounds like one of the guys in the indictment.

[Danny Hyperts]

No, it's. You're thinking of. It's Tommy two times.

[Craig Korlbeck]

This is Tommy two tone. He's saying 8, 6 7, 5 3Y.

[Danny Kelly]

So that's the original doctrine. Right? Because it's not his number. He's giving out her number. Right?

[Danny Hyperts]

Oh, is that right?

[Craig Korlbeck]

What?

[Danny Kelly]

Whose number is he?

[Craig Korlbeck]

It's not the original docs. It's based on. They saw us for a good time called Jenny 8675, 309. It's like written on a stall, like in the bathroom.

[Danny Kelly]

I thought he was giving out his ex's phone number.

[Craig Korlbeck]

No.

[Danny Hyperts]

Do you think he could have made this the jingle work no matter the number or did he get lucky? That the kind of the way the words mix together. You can sing it easily.

[Danny Kelly]

Let's try. I'll send you guys a picture. Dk, can you try singing it with Bill Merritt's points over the last month and let's see if the tune still works. That'd be great. I'll text you in the same chat. I sent the Gettysburg Address to Craig earlier. Okay, man. I kind of want Craig to finish that speech too, while we're at it.

[Danny Hyperts]

But I did a good amount.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Did the whole.

[Danny Kelly]

You did a lot of this. It's not a long speech. It really did most of it.

[Craig Korlbeck]

Oh, Christ.

[Danny Hyperts]

It's so small.

[Danny Kelly]

Since week two. It starts with one, which is great.

[Danny Hyperts]

All I do. Do all the single digit numbers.

[Danny Kelly]

Yeah. Do the single digits in the same.

[Danny Hyperts]

Tone as 8, 6, 7, 5.

[Craig Korlbeck]

All this. Okay, okay, okay. 1, 9 6, 5, 32 4.

[Danny Kelly]

Maybe.

[Danny Hyperts]

Maybe. Yeah, you could probably. That's incredible.

[Craig Korlbeck]

6, 5, 3, 2. All right. It's a great song.

[Danny Kelly]

It's pretty good.

[Craig Korlbeck]

All right.

[Danny Kelly]

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