C (3:21)

I think you're pretty quickly leveling up from where you are now as a team. How long does it take you to get into the upper echelon of the Eastern Conference? I'm assuming Jason Tatum is back next year. So I've got Detroit, the Knicks, Boston. I think you're still outside of that level of team, at least initially, but I think you level up pretty quickly, obviously with the addition of Giannis. Two years maybe. I think you. I think you need some tinkering around the edges, some pieces, some complimentary, some complimentary, like pieces. But to get those right, I think you have to see that play. I think you have to see the combination of, of, of. Of the two players play and really get a real assessment of what you would need to compliment them. So for that reason, I think you're two, three years away. Two years. Two years, maybe.

B (4:21)

Yeah. I think this would be a pushing the button before you're ready type of deal for the Hawks. Right. You're trying to build around Jalen Johnson and he also has to mature to a basketball player. Right. Not just in the regular season, but going into the playoffs and to reach the heights that you would want to reach as a team. Yeah, I think you're about right. Three years. I don't think that's on Giannis's time, not necessarily. But I think the Hawks very much are in play here because they have, I think, the best package to get Giannis with that potential New Orleans pick, especially if it goes number one, because it allows Milwaukee to be able to replenish very quickly. And then if you give them a 27 pick next year as well, from. I think it's from New Orleans. It's top four protected. If you do get, you know, another pitch, you can replenish pretty fast with that. So two, three years. I think we're in agreeance on that. Boston Celtics are the next team on the board. So Boston calls the Bucks. Be like, yo, man, hey, I know we, we're conference rivals, but you know, we want two different things here. I'll give you Derrick White, Peyton Pritchard and some picks. And the Bucks are like, yeah, come here. Come on. It's all good. Why not?

C (5:45)

Yep.

B (5:47)

How long?

C (5:47)

Well, how, how. How long does the flight take to get from Boston? I mean, from Milwaukee to Boston?

B (5:54)

About two hours.

C (5:56)

It's about two. Two hours and 30 minutes. I'm assuming their facilities relatively close to the airport. Yeah, two hours 45. Three hours. Let's just be safe, right? He's got to maybe wait for a couple bags. Hop in, Hop in the car service. About three. Three hours, 3:15. Yeah, yeah, I think that's it. You're going to pair him with Jalen, with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. And then I'm going to tell you that I'm not really tripping off the, off the, off the roll guys as much. Sure. We have to fill those jerseys and we want complimentary skill sets and guys that do certain jobs. But like, with that level of high end talent, like, well, I'm not really tripping, bro. We'll get that, that. Give me a couple names. Give me a couple names.

B (6:41)

We're talking about a couple names. Just, you know, just any names. Can you, can you, can you be a role player on this Boston Celtics team?

C (6:48)

No, no, no, no, no. But like toward, like. Yeah, towards the end of my career when I was not my. When I was not like myself from five year or four years ago, like, yeah, those type of players, when you're dealing with that level of, that level of stardom and shot making, creation, scoring, defending, like, think about that. Like, I'm just, you know, I usually my mind goes to offense first, but like, just. Yeah, I like that. I mean, that's an easy one, right? However long it takes for him to get from his house in Milwaukee to the practice facility in Boston, that's when they're a contender.

B (7:25)

And how confident are you that they can do it? Very confident, right.

C (7:28)

That they could pull the trade off.

B (7:30)

No, no, no, no, no, no. They're not. This is not having this. Hypotheticals. No, no, no, no. Yeah, they'll probably win a championship that year, right?

C (7:37)

Yeah, dude, like in. Yeah, in the three. So that would be however many days are left in the season until the final game. And plus those three hours and 15 minutes.

B (7:45)

Oh, okay. Cool, cool, cool. Let's go with the Brooklyn Nets. This is insane. That's call. Say, hey, man, we're gonna give Michael Porter Jr. Nick Claxton of our picks, plethora of picks that we've gotten from the Knicks and the Mikhail Bridges deal. We're just going to trade you straight up. And the, and the Bucks are like, okay, let's, let's do it. How long would it take for the Nets to become a contender and how confident are you that they can do it?

C (8:12)

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't think they become a contender in Giannis's timeline. Like, you've, well, you've given up. I mean, what are we, what are we doing? We've just forgotten what is Giannis. If I'm Giannis, I don't.

B (8:26)

You said you wanted to go to New York.

C (8:28)

Absolutely not. If they've got to give all. No, no, thank you. No thank you. No disrespect to Brooklyn as a franchise or anything, but like, I don't. We're starting from, from a, a place where it's me, you know, and then the roster has to be completely built out. Like, I can't, I, that, that for Giannis. I don't understand how that would make any sense. And you know, I, I have kind of, I have some faith in, in Brooklyn. I'm not going to say they can't do it, but I don't know how long that would take. I don't think that fits his window at all.

B (9:01)

I think, well, first of all, the trade is not going to happen. But I, I. One thing about Brooklyn, whenever they go star chasing again or inherently do, they're going to have to figure out once that star is in the building, how to build a contender. Because the last two times they went star hunting, they got the stars, but didn't necessarily get the results that the stars.

C (9:21)

Yeah, that's fair.

B (9:22)

Would want. So they got to figure that out. But that's a five year plan. Let's go to one of your other favorite teams. Our league pass faves, the Charlotte Hornets. So Charlotte Hornets get on the phone and they say, hey, we're going to give you lamelo ball. The sweetener will get you Brandon Miller. I understand. You know, got to do what we got to do and then, you know, we put a couple first rounders on the table for you. So now you have a Brandon Miller.

C (9:53)

We had to give him.

B (9:54)

I mean, either you have to give a Brandon Miller or conquer nipple. One of the two. Okay.

C (10:00)

Yeah.

B (10:01)

So how long would it take for them to be A contender. And how confident are you that they can do it? Here's the other thing, though. I don't think that they're. That the Bucks would be crazy to take on that LaMelo contract, but let's just say to make the salaries work, they were like, hey, you know what? We're rebuilding. We're probably going to lose anyway. With or without Lamelo as our number one guy, we'll take on the contract.

C (10:21)

Can we just acknowledge that Charlotte is okay? Is like, they're not, bro.

B (10:25)

They're building. They're doing great right now.

C (10:27)

Yeah.

B (10:27)

Yeah. I'm like, you know. Okay, can I just say real quick. Quick aside.

C (10:32)

Please do.

B (10:32)

We had the jokes for Hornets in the beginning part of the season, but they were in those games and they were. They've had really some really impressive wins over the season. Right. Something that you want out of a young team. You don't necessarily need the wins record necessarily. You don't got to win 47 games. We have to have the right wins. They beat Oklahoma City. They've beaten a lot of other great teams, and this league had a lot of random wins that they probably shouldn't have. Otherwise. They're a few games out of the play in like.

C (11:00)

Yeah. I had to hold my tongue because I was going to say. I was going to say they're good. And I. 21 and 28. I can't. I can't get myself to say that, but I will. They're. They're percolating, if you will.

B (11:12)

Yeah.

C (11:12)

Like, they're. You know, they got. They're. You could look into the pot and see the stuff starting to, like, work together a little bit. Right. Like, you know, when you.

B (11:18)

I like it.

C (11:19)

I don't know, you're making a soup or a sauce or something like that. Like, you're throwing it all in and you check back in a few minutes as it simmers, and you're like, hey.

B (11:26)

Yeah, it's a good little meal prep.

C (11:28)

Yeah. I think if you put Giannis in there, you got. You had to move Lamelo. Brandon Miller, I would go to. Not unlike what I said with it, like, Con Nipple is a dude, man. He's a dude.

B (11:41)

You see him last night. Dude is Cooper flag.

C (11:46)

Yeah, dude. That. That's great. That's. That's crazy, man. Like, Coop. Well, Coop. Coop is. Hoop is crazy, too. But cons is just. It's aesthetically different. It's really. It's really. Stephish Clay. Clayish. I think Clay. Clay might be. I hear people say Steph but like Clayish, where, like, you don't need dribbles. We're just, we're just moving, moving, moving. Shot. Two years, Two years, maybe three. Kind of like Atlanta. I don't think it happens right away, but I do think you are, you are leveling up pretty quickly, and you have some nice pieces already with him. And so. Yeah, two years, maybe three.

B (12:26)

Okay.

C (12:27)

Is that fair?

B (12:28)

That's fair. That's fair, that's fair. I don't think they win a title though, necessarily, but you know, it's gonna be. It'll be fun.

C (12:35)

Oh, yeah, well, then that my. Keep forgetting to answer the second part of the question. Yeah, I would agree with you on that. Like, I don't, I don't. I don't know that that happens, but I think they're getting in. In the height.

B (12:45)

All right, let's go to Chicago. Chicago Bulls get on the phone. They're like, yo, man, you know, Chicago is only a 45 minute flight or 45 minute drive from, from Milwaukee. Just was bringing a sprinter up for Giannis. We'll give you V. We got a Zach Collins expiring Kevin Hoarder and Kobe White, all of our picks for the next four drafts. The Bulls get Giannis. How long would it take for them to be contender, and how confident are you that they can do it? I'm a little weary on the second question, but.

C (13:16)

Yeah, the second, the second part of that question is not very. The first part of that question is harder for me with that roster and the pieces that are left over to visualize it. Not saying anything's wrong with the pieces left over, but it's just, it's proven to be a little harder of an exercise for me. I still, I still think I would say we're Atlanta. I would say Charlotte. Obviously, Boston was the shortest of the ones we've covered so far. I put Charlotte at two. I put Atlanta at three. And. And so Chicago, I would put in the four spot. I'd say three to four.

B (13:58)

Okay, three to four. Now this is like two to two to four.

C (14:03)

Maybe three. So hard when you're talking. Yeah, three. I'd say three. I'd say three and then maybe four.

B (14:08)

Giannis is putting the phone down. Like, he's like, you know, it's. It's fine, it's fine. I don't.

C (14:12)

Yeah, yeah, I want to do this.

B (14:15)

Let's go to Cleveland. Yo, we're giving you Evan Mobley going. Darius Garland too, huh?

C (14:23)

That's a long time.

B (14:23)

That's a long time.

C (14:26)

I Might not be doing a good job with this exercise in fairness. Like, I.

B (14:29)

It has everything to do with the team.

C (14:31)

One, you're gonna. Let me just recalibrate, though.

B (14:33)

Like, if.

C (14:33)

One, you're gonna roll out there and it's going to be. It's going to be. It's going to be what it is.

B (14:39)

Two. Yeah.

C (14:41)

Yeah.

B (14:42)

I. Yeah.

C (14:43)

Three.

B (14:44)

Okay. Yeah.

C (14:45)

For a team like the Bulls, three, I think is. It's fair. Four, might be.

B (14:48)

But we also don't trust their front office to be able to put the pieces around to actually get it done in three years. Yeah.

C (14:53)

They go hand in hand. You're right.

B (14:54)

Yeah. Cleveland, Evan Mobley, Darius Gar. I'm going to give you this 2030 pick in 2031 pick, but, yeah, it's on Cleveland right now.

C (15:11)

Yeah. I mean, it's Kobe Altman, just Kobe.

B (15:13)

Almond, Executive of the year.

C (15:15)

Cleveland's closer to Milwaukee than Boston, right?

B (15:18)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C (15:19)

So that, that, that's number one. That's gonna be like, 2 hours and 37 minutes. Yeah, right. Like Cleveland, Milwaukee, and try to remember, but, like, yeah, two hours. Roughly 2 hours and 45 minutes.

B (15:32)

That means we're going to OKC Cavaliers finals. Yeah.

C (15:38)

Cash is a vibe.

B (15:38)

These are direct, though. It was cool. I had a nice little bowling alley over there. It's cool. It's.

C (15:44)

It's cool. Yeah. I took my boys up one year. It was, it was great. Yeah. No, that's a no. Listen, you. If you, if you're all jokes aside, right, Like, I, I, I, I got Donovan. I got, I got, I got Allen. I got. I still have some of those ancillary pieces around the edges. And Giannis. Yeah, dude, I'm in there. Like, we're doing that. We're doing that. Evan. Evan Mobley's a really nice player. Like, I don't. He is.

B (16:11)

It is who he is at this point, bro.

C (16:13)

Yeah. He's like this, the, the, the, the reach to what he. What people thought he might be offensively. He hasn't gotten there as of yet. Like, I'm not going to say he absolutely can't, but I, I, you know, it's, it's been a minute. I mean, you're putting, you're plugging Giannis into that. Yeah. I mean, the Darius Garland part, like, he's been a big part of what they do, but, like. Yeah, I think, I think we're safe with Giannis. Yeah.

B (16:40)

All right, let's go to Dallas. Yeah. They call up the Milwaukee Bucks and say, yo, who's going to give you 80 straight up. We'll give you this year's pick. We don't have much else to give you beyond that. We don't have any picks after this year, but we're gonna. We're gonna give you that. What do you think of this offer? The Bucks are like, yeah, cool. That's cool. And the. The Mavs are like, huh? You sure? All right, cool. Let's do it. Let's do it. All right, let's go.

C (17:08)

Yeah. The Mavs are like, oh, wait, you said yes. Wait. We're not usually on this end of. We're not on this end.

B (17:16)

Oh, my God.

C (17:17)

We're not on this end of this dude deal.

B (17:19)

Usually. We're putting Giannis with Cooper flag.

C (17:22)

Yeah. Yeah. How? How? I mean, I love it. How quickly. Yeah, I don't have the answer for that. Like, I. I still think that's too. I think that's. I think you're too away from that because I think we're assuming Kyrie's coming back healthy at some point next year, right?

B (17:41)

Yes.

C (17:42)

Is that what we're. The assumption that he's. Yeah. So I'm going to say no to that first year of Kyrie being back. Yeah.

B (17:52)

He has to figure stuff out. What is me.

C (17:54)

Right.

B (17:54)

Has to get back to sec, Right.

C (17:56)

Coop's second year, Coop's third year. Kyrie fully healthy. Yeah, man. I could see you guys being right in the mix. Right in the mix.

B (18:11)

Yeah.

C (18:11)

So for that reason, I would say. What is that? Two to three?

B (18:14)

Two to three. Okay.

C (18:16)

Yeah.

B (18:17)

All right. This. We about to start cooking with grease right now.

C (18:20)

All right.

B (18:20)

The Denver Nuggets, they call up. They call up Milwaukee. It's like, yo, we're gonna give you Eric Gordon, Cam Johnson, Jonas Valentis, next three first round picks. I think that'll. You like that, right? Milwaukee's like, sure, we'll take it on Denver's like, bet. Let's go. Yeah, we got Jokic and Giannis and. And Jamal Murray, and we didn't even give up Jamal Murray.

C (18:48)

We didn't give up Jamal Murray, and we kept you.

B (18:50)

This is favorable. This is favorable trades for the team that is making the trade. Guys, I'm sure we're gonna be everybody in the comments like, oh, my God. No. This is just favorable for every. The team that's getting it. Getting y.

C (19:01)

So. So here's the deal with. With. Yeah, I mean, obviously, you told me I could have. Like, I don't. If you told me I could have Giannis and. And Jokic, I would People are going to fall over themselves, weirdly. I don't know how. I mean, I guess. I guess, like, yeah, give me. Give me all of that. Like, let's go. Fuck it.

B (19:21)

That's a.

C (19:22)

Like, that's a good problem. Yeah, just give me that. We'll figure that out. Like, and the answer to that is they're already right there. So that's not. It will change the way it looks. Has to change. But, like, we're good. I have faith in that. You're still right in the mix with that. I would just say to that, stylistically, the way they play, you know, you're integrating a piece now that. That disrupts that more than any of the pieces that are going out. Like, traditionally, they have always built around that. That. That Murray Jokic relationship and the way they play off of each other. And you're incorporating something now that, like, clearly, you can't ask to, like, stand around and play off of that.

B (20:08)

Who would have to sacrifice the most? Weirdly? Giannis. Yeah. Yeah, but.

C (20:14)

But I. Yeah, the most probably honest, but maybe for the betterment of the team. If Jokic. If. If. If Jokic. And I don't have any reason to believe he wouldn't do this. Became more of a facilitator and didn't have to score the ball as much, because now you have, like, a bonafide bucket in Giannis, too. Like, I think Giannis would eat off a Jokic, you know, I'd have to see how. How that looked on the floor together and stuff like that. But, like, that. That would just be the pushback, right? It's like, hey, bro, like, how does he fit into what you guys normally do? How are you going to get all. That's a lot of ball. That's a lot of. I need the ball lot.

B (20:58)

Yeah. Jokic's averaging 18 assists. Okay.

C (21:01)

Yeah, yeah, but like. Like some. Something crazy like that. Like, if he was. If he was ready to take a step into just pure passer, he's still going to score. He's so good. Like, yeah, that's tough. So here's. Here's. Like, as I go through this, every team, you say to me, you know, would they take the deal, the good ones? And then you're the. You know, on the flip side, the Milwaukee of it all. It's just crazy that I'm feeling like, if I'm Milwaukee, all of these are good for me, as much as I love Giannis and I am a Giannis fan, but, like, at this point, I'm like, yeah, man, Give me that.

B (21:40)

Give me the picks. Let me get my picks back.

C (21:41)

Yeah, let me.

B (21:42)

There are some where, like, it's like, like, like Dallas would never happen because they don't have no picks. Yeah. You know, I mean, we're making jokes, but yeah, for the grand majority who are picks. Yeah. We just have to replenish right now, you know, like, it doesn't necessarily mean, like, how we don't have. If I'm the Bucs, I don't care about being good next year. Doesn't matter. Yeah, you know, it'll be nice, but, like, I don't.

C (22:01)

We're rebuilding reflection of the way we feel about Giannis. This is just where we are. Like, we. Give me the picks.

B (22:07)

They crapped out, bro. Trying to build a contender around Giannis, but go to Detroit basketball. All right, we're gonna give. Hey, yo, Trajan Langdon's like, yo. Jalen Duran. Isaiah Stewart, Duncan Robinson. Next three. Next three first round picks. It's all yours. Milwaukee's like, okay, cool. For sure.

C (22:31)

Doran, Duncan Robinson. Isaiah Stewart.

B (22:34)

Isaiah Stewart.

C (22:37)

Here's where I'm not. This is where I'm not good. This is why I Probably sitting here doing this instead of in a front office. Like, the picks. When you say the picks to me as I'm making the determination of, like, what kind of team this is going to be, the picks never even come into. Like, they don't even register in my mind. Like, the future of what the franchise looks like, minus these picks. That's never even a contemplation of mine. I'm not even thinking about that on the court. They become immediately, again, flight time from Detroit to. To Milwaukee and not that far. And car ride.

B (23:13)

Yeah. By the way, the pistons are already 34 and 12 right now.

C (23:17)

Right. That's what I'm saying. Like, I mean, a lot. Yes, yes, we'll do that.

B (23:21)

What would most excite you about Giannis on the Pistons? Which part of that would most excite you? Is it the pick and roll with Cade? Was it the. What. What is it that.

C (23:30)

Yeah, the pick and roll with Cade would be crazy, but, like, what. What really excites me the most is knowing and having played in Detroit a lot and what that city is about and what they. And what they, you know, what they cheer for. Like, fundamentally the style of play. Like, you know, you, you, you, you. The Detroit basketball. Giannis, is that in a nutshell, the way he plays. Like, there's no. There's no real prima donna in him. And not calling anyone necessarily a prima Donna. But like, right, there's no. Everything he does is onyxish as a music type, right?

B (24:09)

Like, yes.

C (24:11)

Physical.

B (24:13)

I've told this story on the podcast early in our podcasting journey. What I like to do when I'm bored, not as much time now, because I don't have as much time to be bored now, but when I was bored, what I would do is I would watch Giannis highlights. Put the mute on the Giannis highlights and play Onyx behind it. And it synchronized perfectly. But, you know, you got to have baby face, right? You gotta have Big Sean. You got to do all that. You got to do that if he's going to Detroit, right? You got to play some. I don't know, don't shrink shrimp. Got a new mixtape or something like that. You got to play that.

C (24:44)

I don't know any of the people you're referring to.

B (24:46)

Okay, okay. All right. Well, you got. That's just kind of how it has to be. A lot of furs, a lot of Cartier glasses. You know, you got to just, you know, do you have the energy? That would be fun. That would be fun. Let's go to the Bay Area. Golden State, everybody. It's so funny right now, Raja, because Golden State is flooding the zone right now, leaking to everybody. Hey, we're going to give you. We're going to give you all our picks, please. Milwaukee trade to us by the deadline. Please, please, we're begging you. You could just tell right now, everybody is just saying, come. Golden State has the best, best package to give right now, which in theory is true right now, but let's just pump the brakes and relax. Like, I don't think it. I'm about this off you, Roger, because, you know, you've been in the league for a long time. Would feel like if I'm the Milwaukee Bucks at this point, even though Golden State has a really compelling offer that they can give you, right? The next four first round picks, you know, a Jimmy Butler expiring, that's, you know, maybe give you Kaminga or something like that, right? And maybe Pods. We'll see. They do have a compelling one with the picks because they have all their own picks. But if you're Milwaukee, wouldn't it behoove you to just wait until the draft? So. Because that Golden State offer is going to always be there when it's behoove you to wait, when all of the packages are right in front of you, when you can kind of, I mean, instead of getting rushed into a deal.

C (26:20)

Well, how, how, how significant Would Kaminga moving before the draft be to what Golden State had in the coffers to offer to Milwaukee?

B (26:28)

Well, they have. You have a comminga on a team option next year for, like, $27 million.

C (26:34)

Yeah, but. But I mean, like, so you're assuming he. He does not get moved before the draft.

B (26:39)

I think. I mean, if. If this is the thing, though, I think Giannis put a wrench in everybody's plans right now because, like, they holding on to Kaminga right now, if they can. If he could flip them for Giannis. Right. Any other trade, it's like kind of melting void. So I think that's a wrench into it more. What I'm saying is, like, we just talked about Atlanta, and Atlanta has a pick that is pretty much predicated on this lottery where, like, you know, we want to see what you get first. If you get the number one pick in the draft, Milwaukee's like, oh, is a different conversation.

C (27:10)

Sure.

B (27:10)

As opposed to, well, go well. Yeah. I would just say it will behoove them to wait right now. So I. Yeah, I would agree to push back on the. On the notion, like, Golden State is the best option. They're going to get them. And it's like, hey, man, Milwaukee is attempting to trade a foundational piece. They want to get as much as they can, and they want to do what Dallas didn't do, which is start a bidding war.

C (27:35)

Yeah, right. Yeah. No, I mean, I think that's the right way to approach that. I would agree with that.

B (27:40)

Anyways, for the purposes of this exercise, the Golden State warriors are like, hey, man, Jimmy Butler, his expiring contract matches up pretty well. Maybe we put throw somebody in the deal, but it's centered around Jimmy Butler and our next four draft picks. What's good? It's February. It's February 6th. What's good? You ready? Milwaukee's like, yeah, forget all those other. Forget all those other. All those other trade options later down the line. We're going to do this with Golden State. This seems like the best thing. How long does it take for them to become a contender? They still kept Draymond. They still kept Steph. Kaminga's still on the roster. They told Kaminga, hey, man, you want to be part of this? Because we could flip you in the summer, too, because we still got you on the roster.

C (28:25)

Yep.

B (28:26)

How long is one year to be a contender? One year.

C (28:28)

One year. One year.

B (28:32)

And do you trust the front office to be able to build a contender around?

C (28:37)

I do, and I trust Steve Kerr staying in place to figure out what that needs to look like offensively as I incorporate a piece like Giannis. So, yeah, one year, maybe. Yeah, one year. Now, some of those teams, I hedged and I was like two to three years. Like, I would. I would say a year. And that second year, they'd be ready to go, but wouldn't be surprised if, because of how good those two are, they figured it out quicker than that.

B (29:08)

I think if Golden State were. If Golden State is going to pull this off, they have to do it, I think, by the trade deadline, just for all the reasons why I just told you. So with that being said, Giannis is still out four to six weeks with a calf injury. What would this season look like and what would be a success for a sea this season if they pulled off the trade for Giannis going into the playoffs?

C (29:32)

Golden State, let me see. Golden State, sorry, I'm looking right now, 27 and 22, sitting at eighth. They're able to get him back. He's still out four to six weeks, you say?

B (29:43)

Yeah, he's up for this this week with a calf, which, honestly, it's a calf injury, so it can be. It's really delicate.

C (29:50)

It could be, yeah, for sure. I think, you know, for them we're in the playoffs. I don't think we got to make the Western Conference finals this year. I think we could be, you know, for it to be a success, like, I think winning a. Winning a playoff series, competing. Competing tooth and nail for. For another one, maybe we were a few pieces short just because we don't have ideally what we need to have. I think that's a successful, you know, start to that relationship.

B (30:19)

I. I will tell you, the discourse here in the Bear is crazy. It's been a sight to behold. Everybody's just breaking their necks trying to get every bread crumb. Is he going to come? Is he going to come? And then this depression sets. It's just. It's been a lot, man. I think the Bay is a hug right now with this Giannis news and the fact that the Seahawks are about to play in the Niner Stadium and could win a Super bowl there.

C (30:41)

It's.

B (30:41)

It's just a lot of emotion right now.

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B (32:17)

Another, another. Another intriguing possibility which is actually in play as well. Along with Golden State, the Houston Rockets. Julian gets on the phone. They say, hey man, we're going to give you Reed Shepherd, Shangoon and Jabari Smith. We're gonna give you these picks. This Phoenix 2027 first rounder and this 2029. And then we got a pick swap for 2027. You're gonna like it. And the Milwaukee says, yeah, I guess we will like that. Let's do it. We don't need Edmont Thompson at all. It's fine, go ahead. And so Giannis.

C (32:51)

Yeah, go ahead. Katie listening? Yep.

B (32:52)

And I'm in. Thompson.

C (32:54)

Yeah. Fred Van Vliet coming back off of an injury next year. I like it. Here's the deal. And man, Thompson not a natural fit with Giannis. No, not, not a like, not a natural skill set fit with Giannis. From a defensive length athleticism, you're talking about three of the rangier dudes in the NBA. Although kd, no disrespect, probably not the defender that he was four or five years ago, but like we're still talking about a lot of length and, and, and, and range out there. Yeah, I like it. Two years.

B (33:27)

Two years.

C (33:28)

Two years.

B (33:28)

And I trust their front office to be able to do it.

C (33:31)

Yeah, maybe a year. Like I want to. I want to. Maybe a year you need. You need some. You need some real shooting. Yeah, that point guard. What. What. What was. Fred. Wasn't Achilles, was it. Was it acl?

B (33:43)

What was his acl?

C (33:44)

Training camp. It was training camp.

B (33:45)

He's trying to come back next year. He's trying to come back this year.

C (33:47)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, you give me a floor general. You give me Giannis, kd. Amen. Yeah.

B (33:57)

A year to two years, I think. I think a little faster. I think they're ready next year. Because also, KD isn't getting any younger, but also he can, like, kind of step back a little bit because you have Giannis that can take on the bulk of the offensive responsibilities. Right. And then, you know, let KD lay in the weeds and then get into his bag, the clutch.

C (34:16)

Yeah, you might be right. Like, you could sway me on that. Like, I could go a year. I love it. I love it. So, yeah, I'll go a year with you. You're probably right.

B (34:22)

I'd imagine that Houston is in the summertime contingency just because their picks are going to, you know, similar to Atlanta. Their picks are going to come into form after the lottery, and then you kind of have a better idea of what you're going to be, but Houston is right in the mix, and they probably will have to trade. I'm in to get the deal done, but, hey.

C (34:46)

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, to. Honestly, I don't.

B (34:50)

I.

C (34:51)

This is probably not fair.

B (34:52)

And.

C (34:52)

And it's just where my head goes whenever you say, like, when you say con. Canipple and Giannis, like, the. The skills, the. The. The compliment. The complementary potential of the skill sets makes sense. That's the reason I feel that way about Steph and, like, Giannis, right? Like, the. The complimentary skill sets. And then, you know, you say, well, Draymond doesn't shoot it, but Draymond plays point, basically. You know what I mean? So, like, he's orchestrating, like, the. The. The. I'm still gonna. I'm still gonna tell you they figure it out, but, you know, a man in. The style he plays is. Is all in and around the rim. It's. It's. That's where it is. It's all. And it's. It's. I love it. Like, it's cool to watch. It's. It's hard to deal with. He cuts, he. He finishes. He's. He's. You know, he's. He's crafty, but, like, that's where Giannis is going to be, too. So. So that one. But Like, I'm gonna go with you in a year. I think they figured out you put kd Giannis, give me a pg. We'll figure it out.

B (35:49)

Yeah. Houston is. Seems like a playmaker away right now. I mean, they need another frontcourt guy. Watch up against the Spurs. They got a lot of questions right now, especially with Stephen Adams's injury. They should really look into trading for Giannis at this point and where they are right now, they have the pieces to be able to do it. We'll see the Indiana Pacers. Hey, Milwaukee, I'll give you Aaron. Wait, wait, wait. Don't hang up, don't hang up, don't hang up. Aaron Neesmith, Pascal Siakam in our next three first round picks. What do you think? Wait, you. You want to do this deal? Okay. Bet we'll send the sprinter. Yeah. How long will it take for them to be a contender? The rest of Yanis, then don't say the rest of Giannis's career. And how much confidence do you have that they can be a contender? Still got Halle on the roster, coming off.

C (36:42)

On the roster, coming off the Achilles. Two years.

B (36:48)

Two years, huh?

C (36:49)

Two years to three. Halle. Very, very, very complimentary with a lot of pieces that you put him with just because of his style and what he wants to do with the ball, which is pass it first, like. So he's going to fit with a lot of stuff.

B (37:06)

Yeah. Yeah.

C (37:07)

I'd say two years.

B (37:08)

Not to say I have zero confidence because they have Rick Carlisle, the great front office there. I think you just need a little bit more, I think, in order to compete with the bosses of the world. Cause we just talked about Boston next year. Yeah. The Sixers of the world. I think they need about three or four years.

C (37:22)

Yeah.

B (37:23)

I don't.

C (37:23)

I don't. I. I disagree with that. I. I think I. I think obviously it's not competing right away, but, you know, you could flip into some things that are, that are. That are really complimentary within a couple years, you know, and I think within a couple years, provided those aren't like young rooks, like, you could wind up with a Halle Giannis. Maybe you could. Maybe you keep them hard. Like you could have TJ still there as backup like you. You keep nem hard and. Or Matherin or have to get off of one or the other of them and bring in another piece. Something like.

B (38:00)

I think they're.

C (38:01)

I think there's a framework and they were just there.

B (38:04)

Yeah. It's fair. All right. The Clippers, they just say, hey, man, we ain't got nothing for you. Thanks for taking our call. Goodbye. Click. The Lakers. Yo, LeBron, straight up, what do you think? LeBron said he'll wave his tray cloths because he just want to get out of here, he hates it so much. And then we'll give you our 20, 31 pick. Yeah, we're looking at Lakers with Giannis Reeves and Luca.

C (38:36)

Yeah. Again, that, that's going to be a 30. That's going to be like. Traffic in LA is terrible. So we're talking probably, probably an hour and a half from. From the.

B (38:46)

So like six hours once he gets in.

C (38:48)

Yeah, it could be depending on what time you hit that highway. Whatever. What time every time he gets in. Factor traffic into that and that's what we're dealing. You give me Giannis, Luca and anyone else. I'm figuring it out. Yeah, we're good. We're going to get there, we're going to work that out.

B (39:07)

LeBron's really going to enjoy Milwaukee.

C (39:10)

The schnitzels, fantastic.

B (39:12)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's go to the Grizzlies. John Morant, Jalen Wales, Brandon Clark. Next two draft picks. Next two first round picks, including the pick swap with Orlando. Get it done. Put Giannis with Jaren Jackson Jr. Yeah.

C (39:31)

I like those two. Like, I.

B (39:32)

You're.

C (39:32)

You're still not. You're three to four years away. Two to four. Is that fair? Like, I. I don't know. What else do you got like that in and of itself? Those two in and of themselves, like, I like them, but I'm not putting you in the conversation for a while. You got a lot of work to do.

B (39:50)

Yeah, I do trust the front office to be able to do it, though.

C (39:53)

They have a good front office there.

B (39:54)

Okay. Okay. We're gonna take a flight. Gonna go to your backyard, the Miami Heat. This is from, I believe, Yahoo Sports. This trade proposal give you Tyler Hero, Clear. Andrew Wiggins, two first round picks and three first round pick swaps for Giannis. Still have Bam out of bio.

C (40:21)

I got Norm power. Bam. Yeah, I like them. I like them. Two years.

B (40:28)

Two years.

C (40:29)

Two years. You still, you still got work to do. But like, I could, I could see, I could see where you're going with that. Yeah. And they're supported by a, like a real, like a real weight bearing beam and a backbone, if that makes sense. Their culture there and what. So, so yeah, two years.

B (40:47)

Okay. And I trust the front office to be able to do that to Riles and go. They can build a team. Okay, let's Go to New Orleans. Hey, we got Zion. What do you think? No? Okay. All right, bye.

C (41:08)

No, I'm good. I'm good. By the way, by the way, by the way, by the way.

B (41:12)

Did you see.

C (41:13)

There was a viral clip. Our boy. So Maddie Barnes, who I play with, Shout Out. They were. They were on. He was on with. He was doing. With Max. Did you see. Did you see the clip, bro?

B (41:26)

Did you see the. We don't have to. We don't have to. We don't have to redo the clip, but I. No, we don't have to get into it. Yeah, you saw the clip, but I.

C (41:37)

I mean, it's not necessarily about the clip as much as it's about, like, my affinity for, like, Max, who is one of my favorite guests that we've ever had on a pod. Like, he's.

B (41:47)

And that's including with Tim Duncan. He is probably the best one. Including the uncut stuff that we had.

C (41:52)

Yeah, yeah, for sure. For different reasons, obviously, but, like, yeah, dude, like, he was. He was great. So maybe it made me giggle.

B (42:00)

Minnesota Timberwolves. Minnesota is apparently in the mix as well for Giannis, and reportedly Giannis is intrigued by the idea of playing with Ant, because who wouldn't, right? I looked at this in the Athletic. This is a proposal from the Athletic. The Bucks receive Julius Randall and Nas Reed. They also get a couple first round picks from Portland. Just picks. You don't really care about this stuff. Minnesota gets Giannis and Drew Holiday, and Portland receives Jaden McDaniels and Mike Conley. So what do you. What do you think about that?

C (42:37)

Yes.

B (42:38)

You don't have Nas Reed, you don't have Julius Randall. You have Giannis and you have Anthony. Similar to, like, Luca and Giannis, you just.

C (42:45)

Andy those.

B (42:46)

And Rudy.

C (42:47)

Jesus.

B (42:48)

Yeah. Cooking with Greece. How long would it take for them to be a contender? They're already shooting.

C (42:56)

Yeah. Yeah, we're. We're good. And I got. I got Drew, too.

B (43:02)

No, no, Drew was. Drew was. Oh, yeah, no, no, you get Drew Holiday. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

C (43:06)

I got Drew and Yanis.

B (43:07)

Yep, yep.

C (43:08)

Coming in. Yeah, Right now. Right now, Right now.

B (43:10)

Okay. You think they'll go to the. That will go to the finals, right?

C (43:14)

I think you have a legitimate. I. I mean, I'm not penciling that in, but I think you have a legitimate shot to go to finals.

B (43:18)

Yeah.

C (43:18)

Because you still got. I mean, you gave up those two, but you got Dante DiVincenzo, you got McDaniel. You still kept all of that.

B (43:24)

Yep. Yeah. Respect. This is also From Yahoo. Gonna go to the New York Knicks OG Anunoby and Josh Hartford. Giannis, I did a kumbo. Then they. I don't know, they don't really have much else to give. Probably Cat too as well. I don't think the steals gets. I think the Knicks are in play because Giannis wants to go there, but they don't really have a great trade package unless they get a third team. Yeah. Anyway, Giannis to the Knicks. What do you think?

C (43:54)

Yeah, I mean I.

B (43:55)

How long would it take for them to be a contender?

C (43:57)

But it's going to take a little longer though, right? If I give up, if I have to give up, if I got to give an OG there, if I got to get an OG heart.

B (44:05)

And Cat, there's other trade proposals that are giving up Mikhail Bridges as well. Like you're going to have to gut your team.

C (44:11)

You're gutting. Yeah, that's the, you know, like. Yeah, I don't know. I mean they're a few years away then at that point.

B (44:17)

Right.

C (44:17)

Because you.

B (44:17)

Even with Brunson and Giannis.

C (44:20)

Yeah, that's not enough. That's this. We're at a point in the league where that's not like, that's, that's not enough. You. It's a great start. But like you have to have real, you know, you have to have real dudes. Like the only equation in which I'm telling you, you could roll like the old me out there and play with those guys is when you had a three headed monster with Jalen, Jason Tatum and Giannis. That's three MVP level players. Like if you have, you give, you're giving me two in this scenario. And then you've gutted like the real depth of the. My role players. I. Yeah, I think we're a little bit away.

B (44:52)

Okay. Rest of this is Yahoo Sports. You guys should go check it out. They have fake trades for giannis for all 30 teams. This is for the. So the rest of the ones, these trades are going to be from Yahoo Sports because I took a long time for me to prepare for this and I just was like, oh, this is right here. So the Thunder give it out. Isaiah Hartenstein, Lou Do Kason, Wallace, AJ Mitchell, a plethora of picks that they have for Giannis.

C (45:23)

No, no, I don't. No, thank you.

B (45:28)

So OKC should not go after Giannis in general.

C (45:31)

I'm saying no thank you to that. What started again? Hartenstein. What was it again? Case of Wallace. What?

B (45:37)

Lou Dort. Case of Wallace. A.J. mitchell.

C (45:41)

Yeah, probably I mean. Yeah, we're gonna do that. I thought I heard channel. I'm sorry.

B (45:44)

No, I thought.

C (45:44)

I thought I heard.

B (45:45)

Oh, you're keeping the big Three intact, bro. There. Yeah.

C (45:48)

Then, yes. I mean, and here's another thing.

B (45:52)

Here's another thing. If the Thunder flame out, like, they flame out early this. This postseason and don't reach where they're supposed to reach, I mean, there's a. I think there. A pivot is in play here. You have to at least. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

C (46:09)

I. No, yeah, for sure. I thought. For some reason, I don't know, I was speeding ahead, and I thought I heard you say Chet Hartenstein. And then in my mind, you were naming so many names that I thought you're deaf. But you still got J. Will. You still got. Obviously, Shay. You got Chet. You got Carouse.

B (46:23)

Yeah, dude.

C (46:23)

I mean, they're saying it. That's immediate.

B (46:27)

And you trust the front office, obviously, to get it done.

C (46:30)

Yeah, that. That might be the. I mean, that might go to number one on the list.

B (46:36)

Yeah. All right, here. Orlando Franz Vagner. Jonathan Isaac Anthony Black. And a 2031 first for an Giannis Adumbo. So basically, you're pairing Giannis with Paulo.

C (46:57)

Yeah, three to four. Four.

B (47:01)

I'm disappointed with Paulo, man. I'm not gonna lie.

C (47:04)

Yeah. This isn't a. Like this for me. I'm going to let you have your thought, but for me, this isn't a Paolo like, issue as much as, like, the two of them together. I don't see as being super complimentary. And I then don't. Like, you've given up a lot. It's not like you're right there knocking on the door now. I just. You have so much work to do. And then the last component there is the trust factor. Like, you're asking me if I trust him to get that done in his window. The answer is probably not.

B (47:35)

Yeah. All right, let's go. Break. Let's break Cliff's heart. Actually, no. Actually, no. So, hey, this. This is Logan's. This is Logan's deal. Hey, this Logan. Murder of the Philadelphia 76ers. Hey, Milwaukee. Nice. Nice to talk to you. Hey, we're gonna give you PG at a plethora of picks for Giannis. You good with that? Oh, okay. Bet. Cool, cool, cool. All right. Bet you don't want vj. No. No, you don't. You don't really need them. Oh, okay, Cool. Yeah, we have. Okay, so if you honest with VJ Edscome and Tyrese Maxey on the Roster.

C (48:12)

Wait, tell me the deal again. I'm sorry, Paul George, you did not say Joel Embiid.

B (48:20)

Joel Embiid is not. Joel beat is not even in the Yahoo deal. So no Joel and Beat us. No, we did not give up Joel Embiid of Joel Embiid and Giannis.

C (48:28)

Well, Georgia.

B (48:29)

Okay, cool.

C (48:32)

Yeah, let's go. I mean, I'm good. I like cheese steaks. A year. A year. I just. A year.

B (48:44)

That's. That's a lot. I don't even think it takes that. I don't even think it takes that long.

C (48:47)

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair. Because I have said some have been just a few hours, but yeah, I think I would agree.

B (48:53)

Yeah. Okay.

C (48:54)

Yeah, I agree.

B (48:55)

Phoenix says, hey, man, I'm gonna. Jalen Green, Dylan Brooks, Ryan Dunn, and we don't have any draft picks to give you, but hey, we'll give you that. And then Milwaukee says, cool. All right, sounds good. I mean, I think we could. I think we could build a contender around Jalen Green.

C (49:11)

That.

B (49:12)

That sounds great. So now you have Devin Booker and Giannisa De Kumbo. How long will it take for them to be a contender? And do you trust their front office to be able to build one? Mind. You have no draft picks for the foreseeable.

C (49:28)

Mark Williams. Yeah, I don't. Two years, I guess.

B (49:37)

Two years. You just want to go back to sky harbor in one piece, bro. It's not.

C (49:41)

It's gonna take like. But I've got. But. But no, first of all, my picks, I'm not doing. Look, again, I'm not doing math on cap and all of that, so I don't know how much money is necessarily spent there. But like, that team with Devin Booker, you know, Grayson Allen, was that Mark Williams, Giannis, who else is out there? I can't remember the whole damn roster. But, like, you have. You have some pieces that have been helping them win games that are still there. What you're going to need to be, like, in that upper tier of the Western Conference is not going to be acquired via the draft. That's just going to be going out, finding the right pieces in free agency to pair with them. And if I'm starting from Devin Booker and, And. And Giannis, which I think is a skill set, like match, I think they, they. They on paper are going to work well together. Yeah, I say two years, maybe a third, but like two years away. Now you're asking me about my faith in whether they can. They can get that done or not. Like, I, I Don't really know. I don't. I don't know. Like, it's new regime, right?

B (50:46)

Yeah, newish. And I think they've done a really good job. I do. I do trust this front office. I think they've done a really good job to build a team that is in good. Some sort of potential, because they were supposed to be really bad this year.

C (50:57)

This was their first off season.

B (50:59)

Right.

C (50:59)

And they have done a. They've done a tremendous job. Like, what are they, 27 and 19 or something right now?

B (51:04)

Yeah. Coach is really good, too.

C (51:07)

Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't think it's that crazy.

B (51:10)

All right. Portland Trailblaz is from Yahoo. Jeremy Grant, Danny Matiss, Stable Scoot. And all of Milwaukee's picks and swaps from the Damen Lillard deal, I believe. What do you think? Giannis is basically Giannis by himself. So this is going to be a. Yeah, this.

C (51:33)

We're like. This is like Brooklyn.

B (51:35)

Yeah, it's like Brooklyn. It's gonna.

C (51:37)

Yeah.

B (51:39)

Yo, I'll say this. It's. It's. It's great for Milwaukee, but Milwaukee will be really scandalous to do this to Yanis.

C (51:47)

Send him back to, like.

B (51:48)

Yeah, that'd be. Send her to Portland.

C (51:50)

They treat my dog right, they'll treat him right. Right, dog? Come on.

B (51:52)

Yeah. That's why it's the best deal for Milwaukee. But I don't know if they necessarily do that. I don't know.

C (51:59)

I don't know. Business is business.

B (52:00)

It's all business. All right, you ready to laugh?

C (52:04)

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

B (52:06)

The Sacramento Kings.

C (52:08)

Oh, bro, stop. Come on, man. Go. What's the deal?

B (52:13)

Demonte Sabonis, Dennis Schroeder. Plethora of picks. Rihannas, Vianis, demarta Rosen, Zach Lavine, Keegan Murray.

C (52:28)

I think we're. Listen. For the sake of the pod and the people watching, have we not reached a point where, like, less is more now? Like, is this just for entertainment? Like, just to see people, like, see me spaz out? Like, I don't want to do that. I like all of those guys, some of them.

B (52:47)

How long will it take, Raja? And do you trust the front office to make it happen?

C (52:50)

I don't know. And no, I don't want to play this game anymore. I can't be any clearer than.

B (53:03)

We got some. We got more intriguing ones. Okay? I promise. I think this is the last intriguing one. And then we'll stop after this because this is actually a team that's in play. The San Antonio Spurs.

C (53:16)

Yeah.

B (53:16)

Stefan Castle. Devin Fassell. Harrison Barnes. Kelly Olenek. Carter Bryant. Atlanta's first round pick. San Antonio's 29. First round pick for Giannis. Kyle Kuzma. Amir Coffee and the NASA side there.

A (53:34)

Kumbo.

C (53:35)

Yeah, dude, we're there. We're. We're, We're. Yeah, I. I say now.

B (53:43)

New Age Twin Towers. Yeah.

C (53:45)

Yeah, I say now one year maybe, but, like, I. You could. It could very easily be now.

B (53:49)

All right.

C (53:49)

Do I trust them?

B (53:50)

Yes, absolutely. Are you okay, Rajan? No, I'm good.

C (53:54)

I'm good, I'm good. I. I thought I was gonna have to be like, look, my kids know, you know, at a certain time in the evening once, like, I've been moving and shaking all day. If there's a level of. There's a level of question that you could come to me and potentially get the response of like, yo, my man, what are you doing?

B (54:11)

Like, why are you.

C (54:11)

Why are you out here? Right? And so they have been. They have been conditioned to know where that line is. So, like, past a certain hour, they don't even come with me about certain.

B (54:23)

It's not just your kids, right?

C (54:24)

No, it's.

B (54:24)

It's. It's everyone who knows you pretty well.

C (54:27)

Yeah. Like, you're about. Yeah, okay.

B (54:29)

All right. With that being said, I'm proud of you.

C (54:32)

So I digress. No, but, like, yeah, the spurs, for sure, dude, the spurs are gonna be right there. They need to, like, Come on. We're good.

B (54:40)

All right. I'm a spare you, bro. I'm a spare you.

C (54:42)

Give me one more. Just give me one more. Let me see what you were about to do. What you were about to do.

B (54:46)

Well, no, the next one I think is good. The. The final two are going to be wild, but the next one I think is good. The Toronto Raptors. They say that Scotty Barnes is untouchable. The Raptors call and say Scotty Barnes is untouchable. But we'll give you Brandon Ingram and we'll give you any other player that'll make the deal work. You can choose. We'll give you a plethora of picks. Scotty Barnes and Giannisa De Kumbo on one team.

C (55:13)

Yeah, I like that. I do like that. Two years. Three years. Two. Two.

B (55:21)

Yeah, two. But what is.

C (55:22)

Yeah, what's the other thing I have to give up, though? You said to pick a player. Like, who are you picking?

B (55:26)

Were you throwing in there Brandon Ingram, Jacob Portal to make the salaries go? You give RJ Barrett, maybe. Let's do it.

C (55:35)

I'd like to keep rj. I'd like to keep rj.

B (55:38)

Remember, this is. This is a. This is an exercise where, like, the team trading just fleeces the bucks. So you're keeping R.J. barrett. So.

C (55:46)

So I'm keep. Yeah. Well, if I'm keeping rj and you gave me that, I tell you what, I say two. Did I say two?

B (55:53)

Yeah, two years.

C (55:55)

Yeah. And. And two and two. And the possibility of, like, I don't think year one, but so two. I think safely two. Okay. I like that. They're a sneaky, solid team.

B (56:10)

We have the Jazz and the Wizards. Do you want to bother? That's. No. Okay.

C (56:15)

I don't.

B (56:15)

All right, let's get to a segment we like to call Ruin of the Week. We pick a person, entity, organization that won the week. Raja, you go first.

C (56:25)

I'll go first.

B (56:29)

Yeah.

C (56:29)

Real one of the week is going to go to Novak Djokovic.

B (56:34)

Yeah.

C (56:35)

Novak was asked maybe a few days ago at the Australian Open. I saw he was asked about chasing Yannick Sinner and. And Carlos Alcaraz at this point in his career, and if it. If that felt like the beginning of his career when he was chasing. I think it was Roger Federer and maybe Rafael Nadal, and Novak kind of snapped back. He got a little, like, defensive, if you will, and was kind of like, hey, bro, like, we have to put this in context. There were 15 years in between that where. Where, like, I won a lot of tournaments. So, like, it's not that, you know, he. He got a little ruffled by the question, right? Like, he was a little perturbed by the question, but then he came out, like, in an epic match in the. In the semis and beat. He beat Sinner, right? Yes, Sinner. I watched it this morning. It was some great tennis. He basically kind of just collapsed on the court, and he was thanking everybody. And it was pretty cool to see at this point in his career because he's still a remarkable tennis player, and he's just kind of, like, sliding on the back of that hill, but he's still high on the hill. Those other two dudes are just phenomenal younger talents. So it was cool to see him have a little redemption right after he had been asked that question. Get the W over one of the two, and now he's in the fight.

B (57:56)

We're getting Alka, Alcaraz, Jokic.

C (57:58)

Brokers. Yes, yes. Which. Which hasn't really ended well that often for Jokic lately, but he just pulled one out of. Out of thin air this morning. So Real one.

B (58:11)

Real one, indeed. Gonna give it to Shonda Rhymes. I watched. I watched. I started the new season of Bridgerton. You know, Bridgerton Boys back in the building.

C (58:24)

Know what we do, Bridget.

B (58:25)

Netflix. We was doing this before the Netflix. We were still repping. Ah. Ah. You know, I mean, it was out here. Shout out, Jumpy.

C (58:30)

That's what's up, Joby.

B (58:33)

We spoke it into existence, ladies and gentlemen, but there hasn't been anyone that has on the. In the. In this. In the current season that has kind of purported themselves as real ones just yet. It's very early in the season, so I just want to give it to Shonda. And as the season wears on and I watch it, I will be prepared to bring back my real ones. Roger still needs to watch the first episode, so I will not spoil it here, but Shonda Rhymes.

C (58:58)

Yeah. Much love, Shonda. I'm halfway through the first episode. In fairness. I gotta finish.

B (59:01)

Yeah, for now. We'll see how. How long I' ma holla at you next week. All right. There has been another edition of Real Ones. This was a very wonky one. It was hilarious. It was all the things like our old school ones. It felt good. Are you okay? You survived it. You survived. I did.

C (59:16)

I. Yeah. I don't know what that was, man.

B (59:18)

I just. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

C (59:21)

I don't know.

B (59:22)

All right, all right, all right. See y' all next week. Realms mailbag@gmail.com realmsmailback gmail.com realms gmail. Ah, all the shits.

C (59:39)

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