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Logan Murdoch
What's poppin real ones. Logan Murdoch here, Raja Bell in a few Me and Raja talk a lot about the Lakers, LeBron, his return, what's next for the Lakers, what's going on, who's who's really running the show there. A lot about that. We talk about LaMelo Ball. Did he make a trade request? Didn't he make a trade request? Should he make a trade request? We get into all of that. What team would want Lamelo Ball? What team could he thrive on that's not the Charlotte Hornets? What's up with his career, man? It's really weird. He's 24 years old, has averaged 30 points, has been in All Star, but it seems like no one wants him, right? Like that's the conundrum that we're facing. Or at least no team that is wanting to win a championship wants his services. So how do we navigate this? We talk a lot about that. You know, Cliff is on the line, so we always have to talk about the Sixers. So we get into a little bit about Maxi as well and his trajectory and his 54 points against the Bucks.
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Raja Bell
Sheesh.
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Logan Murdoch
And I also how Paul George giving him flowers about how he's consolidated around Maxi and how this team is now Tyrese Maxey's team. Really fun developments. Also, as a courtesy, please real onesmailbackmail.com real onesmailbackmail.com Real Ones mailbag. Com we are going to be taking your questions for the Thanksgiving episode on Tuesday. Make them open ended. Okay, let's talk about your favorite teams. We don't have to get overly analytical. Let's just ask us questions about us. Let's just make it fun.
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Logan Murdoch
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Raja Bell
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Logan Murdoch
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Raja Bell
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Logan Murdoch
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Logan Murdoch
Cliff, by the music, What's poppin Real ones. Logan Murdoch here. Raja Bell there. Cliff in the cut. Roger was mad he couldn't get his off like he wanted to on Tuesday. So we'll do the best that we can to make sure, make sure he gets his rants off on the, on the original real ones Friday episode. Cliff, what's good, buddy? How we doing, Logan?
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Cliff
Raj, man, it's a happy Friday. You know I'm saying, Raj, would you say, you say you had a couple minutes for us today? You know what I'm saying? You feeling good? Feeling great?
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Raja Bell
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm good, bro. You got about what, 25, 26? Hey, bro.
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Cliff
That'S when you pop the best. When you put it, don't put it on the timeline. All right, let's get, let's get it cracking, though. The Los Angeles Lakers are reorganizing their basketball operations department and have fired executives Joey and Jesse Buss. That name sounds familiar. You know who that is? From their respective front office positions, effective immediately, the brothers told ESPN Shams Sharania on Thursday. The Lakers also dismissed a lot of their scouting department who found gems like Austin Reeves, like Kyle Kuzma and other known players that have gone through the Lakers organization. Now, Joey Bust and Jesse Bust still have their partnership shares in the Lakers, but they are no longer day to day operations in the organization. I mean, that's a lot going on, a lot of family involved there. We know the Bus organization is well, well known in Los Angeles. Logan T.S. off here, man. What the hell is going on with the Lakers?
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Logan Murdoch
I mean, it's just another day in Laker land, man. It's messy. You know, it's. I think what this is is the new ownership, and we've talked about this in previous episodes, the new ownership headed by Mark Walter, who owns the Dodgers, they are about to infuse a lot of money and a lot of resources into this organization. And that means a lot of firings and layoffs and people getting replaced with people that, you know, Mark Walter wants to be in the building. Right? And I think that it is a little messy because of, you know, the brothers being involved in this. And we know since Dr. Buss death that there has been a lot of clashing between the brothers and Genie. And this is probably another, you know, extension of that. But what I find fascinating is, you know, the people that are still in the building, that are still on the hot seat. And I'm looking at one Rob Pelinka, who has a lot of ties within the old regime of the Lakers and has a lot of ties, you know, with Jeannie and is on this, is having this balance of the fact that he got Luka Doncic in the building and that probably has bought him some time, but on the other end, around the league, he doesn't have the best reputation of both getting players and building a championship team. And also as an agent, he's, as a former agent, he, his, his reputation definitely preceded itself. But the other wrinkle in this is somebody who is in Mark Walter's ear is one Magic Johnson, who definitely clashed with Rob Pelinka during their time in the front office space during their tenure. Magic called Rob, paraphrasing here, we called him a snake and was, did not trust him. And so if I'm Rob Pelinka right here now, I am very scared, no matter what happens, because it, it would look like his days could be numbered within the organization if he doesn't build a championship team quickly. I mean, that 20, 27 stuff sounds nice, but the clock is ticking to build a championship team around them. Those are the first things that I see. It's one, the new ownership wanting to get new blood in here, new resources in there, despite what the, despite what the reputation has been with the old scouting regime. And then also, I wouldn't want to be Rob Polinka right now.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, yeah. I don't know, bro. I typically don't concern myself with ownership. Like, I, I, I, I just don't. Right. Like, I mean, that's, I'm a worker, bro. Like, I'll show up, do my job. Like, are the checks still fucking coming? Oh, they are. All right, cool. We keep it moving. I would just say, I would just say this because I don't know, you know, more about the inner workings of their ownership group, the family dynamics, all of that. I do think. And you know, to what degree the brothers were involved in the actual scouting and talent evaluation and stuff like that, you guys would have a much better feel for that than me. So would just say that they did. And you acknowledged that, Cliff, when you were kind of setting it up. Like, they, they have drafted some, some real talent and they found some real, kind of, some, some, some hidden gems, if you will. So, like, you know, flowers must be given. But when you're coming in and you've had success as an ownership group in different, in different sports and you've got the type of group that they have. With the expertise of Magic. And those people, you. You just want to make sure that there's a clear voice and there's a clear message and that there aren't too many cooks in the kitchen, so to speak, when it's time to start, like, really moving towards this common goal of winning a championship relatively quickly. So, you know, even if even streamlining and making sure that everyone is marching and rowing in the same direction becomes really, really important, generally speaking. But when you've had the type of success that that ownership group has had, they certainly know that and they are going about executing that, right? Any. Anything that could. Distractions the wrong word, but anything that could be sowing a seed of doubt or, you know, attached to a regime pass that might be sending a different message or was acting on a different accord. Like, all of those things have to be eradicated and removed from the building for us to come in here and execute this plan. And they clearly, as a group, have a plan. Right. Like I talk about that roadmap to success. If you're trying to sell to me as a coach or as a general manager, it's no different from an ownership group. Like, how do you see us getting from where we are now, current roster, luka managing the LeBron timeline to this championship contender? They've had success doing it. They come in with an understanding of it and a game plan for it. Anything that's going to be slightly in the way of that has to go.
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Logan Murdoch
I agree with you, 1, 100. I think that, you know, it's the Lakers, when you think about them, historically speaking, you think about the championships, you think about the rings, you think about all these things. What you don't think about is the fact that they, for most of their existence, have been essentially a mom and pop shop, right? Like, it's been a family business. And when you bring in someone like Mark Walter with all the bread that he has and all the, you know, the corporate ties that he has, it's going to be different. It's just going to be. And I'm very curious to see how he, you know, puts his resources into it. The Dodgers are a great example, and I think this is the first domino to fall.
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Raja Bell
Sorry. Yeah. Interestingly, you know, I said magic. You have a resource like magic. I don't know this for sure. This is just a thought that, like, when sports aren't yours or when you're as accomplished as Magic is in terms of winning championships and business ventures and all of your experiences that make you valuable to an ownership Group in different spaces. Sometimes it's hard to be that same person when you're now advising on something that's actually your baby. Do, you know, like, you get, you know, it's like a dad and a kid. Like, I run across this all the time as I coach, and now I have kids coming up. Like, it's hard to remove the dad goggles at times and just make a pure evaluation on something because of your attachment to it, like your, you know, your love for it. And that's going to be an interesting thing to watch. Right. Because you talked about the dynamic between Pelinka and Magic, and I don't have the right answer on whether Polinka is the guy or not. But, you know, that has to be. Magic's got to do a good job for this ownership group of keeping his Lakerdom and his experiences as a Laker all time great. Kind of out of the eval process and just keep it business, as I'm sure he's done with other projects for them. Right. Because he's not attached to them.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah. The problem is Palinka hasn't done a great job building the team outside of Luca, so he would make it easier for whoever is pulling the strings right now to. It would make it easier for them to just cut bait and be like, this is the reason why. Like, we appreciate this, but this is the one we're looking for right now. And I think for a long time, Magic is in this as well. A lot of people have gotten their jobs in our organization because they have been cool with Genie or there is a Lakers tied to Jeannie. Robin Link is a good example of that. Being Kobe's agent. Oh, hey, Jeannie. I mean, I can also. I can build a team if you need it, like, in the way that Bob Myers has done. I'm a former agent. I can do the exact same blueprint and do that and whisper sweet. Nothing's in her ear. And Magic, if you look back to 2017, Jeannie went to him for advice, and he said, I could run it. And then it's like, oh, okay. I guess Magic, you can be the general manager of the team too, right? Like, there's a lot of ties to that. And I think that an important thing for Mark Walter to do is kind of to sift through that and be like, no, I have a. I have an organization to run. Like, this is. It's cool that this is the family dynamic. And that's something that I think we need to watch for more than anything is how much Jeannie's influence either Waynes or, or, or grows. And I think it kind of wanes as the years go on because we've saw it in past and I don't care if she has, she's officially the governor of the team. That doesn't really mean anything anymore. You saw that with Boston and their ownership group and the consolidation of power that's happening right now. And that is, I think going to happen with the Lakers. But I think there are going to be some growing pains within this and this is just the first sign of those growing pains question for you though, and I think you touched on it before when we first started this segment from a player dynamic day to day. Maybe not a role player, maybe not, you know, a two way or a ten day guy, but what are they feeling during this, this, this time in this transfer where they're seeing these guys in the building, all of a sudden they're not there right now?
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Raja Bell
What, you want me to have an outer body experience and give you a fucking insight into. I mean, I know nothing about, I.
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Logan Murdoch
Mean, you a star on this pod, so maybe I don't know shit. I mean, you can talk, speak to it.
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Raja Bell
I don't know. I mean, I really, I would just be speculating. I will. I don't think it moves the needle in, in terms of their day to day bandwidth emotionally or you know, thought wise. I don't think it moves the needle much. Especially in this situation where Luka just got like. Luka is the guy you're not dealing with. Like as far as LeBron goes, it could be a little more interesting. Luka's the guy moving forward, right? Like LeBron is the aging star where we're trying to figure out what the farewell tour, if you will, is going to look like. How long are we going to straddle the fence with like handing it all the way over? Do you know that there is a, you know, there is a natural passing of the baton that is coming, right? And it's happening right in front of our eyes. But like there's a, there's a point where that happens and then the door is closed. And people have typically managed that pretty well in la, I would think, as far as being star friendly in that regard. And that could be an interesting place for LeBron now, right as you're, as you're sifting through new ownership and how the end of your career is going to play out. As far as Luka goes or any of those young guys, I really don't think it occupies much of their. Of their bandwidth at all. Again, you know, we're dealing with these coaches like, we never interact with scouts or, you know, it's. You might interact with the GM more if you're one of those upper echelon players. I've said before, like, I rarely interacted with GMs on any real level other than just say what's up and passing in the hallways. So you're going to deal more with, you're more concerned with coaches, you know, who's on that staff, who's affecting your day to day, who's affecting your ability to win games, like, in real time as you compete less so about, like, who's, who's cutting those checks and organizational structure. So LeBron. It could be really interesting though, Logan, just because there may have been a plan in place for, for the last few years that, that we might not even know about. Right? Just hypothetically speaking. And as we start to have these organizational and structural changes like that that you might want to know. Hey, man, do we still. We still good? Like, are we still thinking the same way?
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Logan Murdoch
Right? Yo, yo, yo. Remember me?
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Raja Bell
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
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Logan Murdoch
You know, you, you, you. You're really growing at this podcasting thing right now because you just did a great transition. Because we're going to talk about LeBron, who made his season debut this week, had 11 points, 12 assists and three rebounds, looked, I mean, he didn't look like in pure LeBron shape, which is to be expected, right? Like, he did. He.
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Raja Bell
He didn't. You're being polite.
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Logan Murdoch
Okay, what's the way. How should I say no?
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Raja Bell
I mean, and it's.
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Logan Murdoch
Look, it's no shade. Like, it's hard.
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Raja Bell
He's in his 23rd year, he's 40 some years old, and he ain't played basketball at that level in a while. He looked really out of shape, looked.
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Logan Murdoch
Very out of shape, looked tired, but he only had, he only had one turnover to 12 assists. Played really well. But like, the other thing that I was struck by with LeBron was he seemed to be really, really just juiced to be out on the court. Just like really excited just to be back. And it felt like there was like maybe a mortality play at this, right? Like, I don't know how many more times I have at this. I don't know how many more games I have in me. I'm just excited to be on the court. He was like chest bumping Jackson Hayes after Ann Ones. He was really engaged. I was really, I was thoroughly impressed with just like the engagement of LeBron this early in the season, based on everything that has gone on, like what you just said, you know, not knowing what next year holds and not knowing who was going to pay him, if he's going to be back next year, if his body's going to allow him to be back next year. Which is a wild thing to say about LeBron. This is an interesting quote that he said post game, I want to get your, your, your, your two cents on I can fit in with anybody. James said, I don't need even understand why that was even a question. What's wrong with these people out here? I can fit in right away with anybody. Just guys, just watching the guys. The first 14 games, I was putting stuff mentally in position while I was trying to watch the games of how I could help the team and how I could be successful to help the guys. Still able to gain a lot of eyes when I'm driving the ball or have the ball.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, look, LeBron is as cerebrally gifted on a basketball court as I think, probably anybody in the history of the game. He was also blessed with these fantastic physical gifts. That's what made him so unfair, is that he could. He could couple those two things, and there was nothing you could do about it. Would he have sat there and figured out ways to be successful with that group?
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Logan Murdoch
Absolutely.
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Raja Bell
Did you see some of it in his first game out? For sure. It's not always as easy as, can I fit with everyone? I think maybe this is unfair, but, like, when Shaq came to Phoenix, I think Shaq felt like that. And Shaq and I had conversations, and I know Shaq and other people on our team had conversations because we played a pretty unique style at the time, and it was really contrary to what Shaq had historically done with teams he was on. So when he got to us, it was a lot of conversation and him saying, hey, here's how I can help you. You know, I remember having these conversations vividly about, like, hey, when I get it in the post, you know, here's where I want you to be. Here's how we're gonna. And all the intent was there. Shaq was being the best version of himself as it related to trying to fit in and play with us. We didn't come out, like, to the hottest start, and we didn't play great that year. Like, some of that was coaching. Um, I don't think it was Shaq's fault at all, but I think I'm not mistaken. The next year, Shaq was an all star again because they kind of changed the way they played to get Shaq out of Shaq. So what I'm saying basically is, yeah, LeBron, and like, yeah, I'm sure you think you could fit in with anything. And theoretically, yeah, dude, like, you're.
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Cliff
That.
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Raja Bell
You're that cerebral of a player, but at what level does that relegate you to as LeBron James? Like, it relegated. We relegated Shaq to not being Shaq.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah.
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Raja Bell
And clearly he still had the juice because the next year he was an all star again when they went back to playing Shaq centric basketball. Yeah, so.
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Cliff
So.
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Raja Bell
So I've never argued that. I don't think in a vacuum, it could. They could work together. My question is, what percent of LeBron is LeBron able to be in that capacity? And I don't have the answer to that.
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Raja Bell
Because, like, what. What I've said before is, if you are going to. And it didn't look like that. I'm not. You know, I watched the game on. On replay the other night, and, you know, JJ did do a good job of. Of, you know, what do you have, 11 assists and. And, you know, distributing the ball and, you know, he's coming down the lane and he's dishing it and stuff like that. Like, a lot. A lot of that. Interestingly, to my eye, looked like a lot of his playmaking was when. When Luca, like, they kind of staggered playmaking duties a little bit, even if they didn't stagger, you know, like. Like when Luca was out. LeBron, you go, you take it, you facilitate a little bit. Right? But. But I. But if on a large scale, when Luka's in the game and even in crunch time, we're asking you to be more of a role player than you've ever been in your career. What level of role player are you? Because not every star can be a great role player. I'm not saying LeBron can't. It's just what it is, right? Like, you've only been a star, so. And what skill set is necessary to accent, like, the current star? I think LeBron's gonna be great. I think they figure it out. I would just argue, though, that, like, as I was watching the game, I think. What was the last part of that quote you just said to me? I just talked a lot and I forgot the last part of that quote.
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Logan Murdoch
I'm still able to gain a lot of eyes when I'm driving the ball or have the ball.
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Raja Bell
Perfect. Perfect, because that's where I was going. Right. I'd make him score the ball at this point in his career, I'd make him score the ball. Like I was, I was watching that. Like too much, too much collapsing, too much collapsing. Like I, I'd make him score it. I, I, Especially in the shape he's in now. Like, you're not shoulders by a guy threat to like rip the rim off like you were seven, eight, nine years ago.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah.
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Raja Bell
You know, so like as, as he gets in there and he's body and body, and I would, I would make him score the ball more than I would collapse on him. It's a tougher thing to do as an older player to carry the scoring load. That's why it naturally transitions to a younger, more, you know, vibrant athlete. So, like, I would make him score the ball if I, you know, no one asked me, but game plan wise, that's what I do.
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Logan Murdoch
I mean, that's what the Minnesota Timberwolves did in the playoffs. Yeah, just make him score the ball. I mean, it's, it's a foolproof strategy, especially if, if JJ is going to play him 48 minutes in a game, you know, that, that would, that would probably be, that would probably be helpful for the opposition. But like, I don't know, I think that, like, he needs, he needs to get in LeBron shape. And I think once he gets in LeBron shape, I think that's the biggest question right now, right? Like, he's, he didn't look and he, he, I think they have like five practice days in between their next game, which is going to be on Sunday, which they play the Jazz again, which means there's probably another cardio session for.
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Raja Bell
What a perfect, what a perfect coincidental. Coincidental time for LeBron to come back, right?
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah. And then they have, and then right after that they have the Clippers, who also could be another cardio game for him. You know, like, great. But they, I can see why you would target this stretch to bring him back. Right? Like he, it seems like he, he can get into his mode. And I think that, I think what LeBron say says is true. Right? Like where, like when James Harden, one of Cliff's favorite players of all time, said that he is the system. Like I, when I, the way I believe James Harden, that way is the way that I believe LeBron. Right. And I think that I would say, like, he should be, he should probably relegate himself to role player status. I think that's the best play for the team. I think that there was a bit of, wouldn't say humbling because you can't Humble, a guy like LeBron. But there was definitely an instructive, there was an instructive play from the Lakers from a coaching standpoint and from a play standpoint, while he was out to say, this is where I can. This is clearly Luca's team and the universe of this offense is clearly centered around Luca. How can I get through on this? And I think if you were to have him come back in the middle of the season or midway through the season the way that he has, he at least has to start as I think that type of complimentary piece until he works his way back into shape.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, I mean, I, I do too. And this is, I want to be clear with what I'm about to say. This isn't me saying this is what's going to happen or this is what I think the Lakers should do. I'm just, I'm just going to pose a question to you. If, if you were asking LeBron to be a role player, a part time playmaker, knockdown, three point shooter and defender, I could probably find people that shoot knockdown threes at a higher percentage. Definitely guard better at a much cheaper price for team building purposes.
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Logan Murdoch
You can. That's his version of LeBron in general for a much cheaper price. Out.
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Raja Bell
But, yeah, but that, but, but, well, but, but not, no, because like, I still believe that if you let LeBron be LeBron, he will do shit with the ball. If, if it's, if he is the centerpiece of what you're doing, he's still good enough. Like, it's not going to win a bunch of, like it's not a championship level, but he can do things that other people can't do in terms of the orbit that he creates when he's got the ball in his hands and all of the things that that represents. It's just when you marginalize him to that point right then, then, then that's what I'm, that's what I'm worried about. Like I, that's a, that's a way, way, way depressed, marginalized version of LeBron James. If that's what you're going to ask him to be throughout the course of 82. Now, if you're saying, hey bro, we're going to work you back into Semi LeBron, as you get into shape, we get you more touches, we allow you to conduct a little bit more, we allow you to operate, then okay, because you're going to get a version of that brilliance that is LeBron, when he's, when he's doing what he's done for his whole career. But again, you're turning, if you're turning him into a 3 and D dude, then the question that I just asked you would be the question I ask. Yeah.
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Logan Murdoch
Where do you, what do you do you still have them in the same place based on what you saw for it's one game you still have in the same place that you did preseason in the west and where you see, I don't remember.
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Raja Bell
Where did I, where did I have them preseason?
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Logan Murdoch
I don't think we had them about. I think we bought them like they were not an OKC tier.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, I would still have them like.
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Logan Murdoch
Right below maybe in the Houston Rockets.
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Raja Bell
I haven't seen anything that would suggest yet that they were going to take the step into that, that elite tier of the Western Conference. But you know, I'm hopeful. I'm not saying I, you know, again, I'm not saying that any of that is going to derail what they have going on. I think it looks really, really good. I'm just fascinated with how he's going to come back and how they're going to incorporate him when he's in shape and when he feels like he can do LeBron esque things. It's a fascinating, you know, next month, if you will. For me, for me to watch.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah, for sure. Say a quick break and we will talk lamelo ball at the other side of the break. Wow.
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Raja Bell
That's crazy.
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Logan Murdoch
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Cliff
We have everybody's favorite superstar in the NBA and that is one LaMelo Ball Rajah. As you know, the trade rumors are swirling about Lamelo and Charlotte. We don't know what's going on with his situation, but yesterday on Thursday night Kelly Eiko of Yahoo Sports tweeted out that there's growing frustrations between Lamelo Ball and the Charlotte hornets organization and LaMelo Ball quoted with the clown emoji. Now let me give you some numbers on LaMelo Ball season. Currently he's shooting. He's on pace for shooting his worst career field goal percentage, his worst 3 point percentage and he's pretty low in points right now at 21.6. That would be his third lowest of his career since his first two years in the NBA. However, his rebound numbers are up and his assist numbers are up. Seems like Lamelo's game is all over the place. Seems like Charlotte is kind of tailoring their game to towards more of a team fit of Culkin Brenner of Con Knipple, Miles Bridges, other guys. Charlotte's looking up a little bit. Raj, how we feeling about Lamello Ball trade Rumors. Is there any destinations you would like to see him?
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah, before we get to, before we get to Roger's thing, I just have to do a clerical thing. Jake Fisher of Bleacher Report said on stream that he strongly is refuting the Yahoo Sports reporting, which is definitely just a sign of the current media market that we're in right now. So I will put, I will just add on to the question, should Roger, should Lamelo be wanting a trade out of Charlotte at this particular.
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Raja Bell
Look, if you were to want a trade out of Charlotte now because the landscape looks like they're more developing and emerging players that could theoretically help you and give you guys a better percent chance to win games, then I will have to take back just about everything I said about him as a player because it would suggest that you don't really care whether you guys are winning games. You really just want to be a high volume, Highly clipped, viral basketball player. Meaning. Right. Like you're going to do these wild one leg shots and step by like, and, and winning isn't then the priority. So when you ask me, should he want a trade, the answer is no, if I don't think so, because like, I think he's got the most help in emerging talent that he's had around him since he's been there. If you're saying I'm frustrated, I can't wait any longer, I want to win now and that's the impetus for it. Okay, okay. Maybe a different maybe. Hey, my timeline isn't these guys. Timeline. Like, I don't know if this is going to happen. You know, my, my body might not feel as great as everyone thinks it should type of conversation. Okay, I'll listen to that argument and I might even support that one, but I don't think so. You know, I'll, I'll play devil's advocate with what I just said, but I don't think so. I don't think that's the case. And so the answer for me is no. Why would you want out of Charlotte now if you didn't want out of Charlotte before, when it was super bleak? Why, why would you want out now when you can see some of these pieces?
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Logan Murdoch
I, I think that I'm with you, Raja. I don't believe that. I think this is the best chance to get whatever he wants. This, this, this team offers the best chance to get whatever he wants. And what I mean by that, you don't get the most shots, you'll get the most glory. You're going to be the front of the Marquee at. At every stop. Right. And like, I don't have the impression league wide, that any team that wants to win a championship or striving to that will be. Have any interest in taking on LaMelo Ball who can't stay on the court. And when he's on the court, he's shooting 30% from the field. And then, like, he has. All of. Everything that you've heard about Lamelo is that. And I know you've played with players like this, like, love the life more than the game. Love that. Everything that the NBA brings them more than playing in the NBA itself, you know, and playing. Playing in games and winning.
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Raja Bell
I don't know. I don't know anyone.
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Cliff
Like.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, no, yeah. I clearly know folks like that, and I believe.
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Logan Murdoch
Okay, thank you. Okay. Okay. Was not gonna let you out here just hang me out the drive. But. No, but that's. That's. That's is the impression that he is always given, right? And like, even worse than that, he's gonna. He's gonna earn $37 million this season, has over $130 million remaining over the next three years of his contract. Who is going to take that on? That's a contender, right?
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Raja Bell
Well, that's it. Like, yeah, I agree with you. Great answer to a different question, though, right? Because, like, if you're asking, would anyone want that they could win? Yeah, I think you just. You just laid out the answer to that one.
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Logan Murdoch
Is Houston going to take that on? Like, right. Why would they do that, right? Like, is.
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Raja Bell
Who.
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Logan Murdoch
Who would Minnesota take LaMelo Ball on to play along? Also, like, that wouldn't work because his game is way too similar to Anthony Edwards. Right? They both want the ball all the time. And I would take Anthony Edwards 10 times out of 10 over LaMelo. Like, I think Cliff, and I'm about to. I'm about to put all his business out on the streets. He said. He suggested maybe Boston Simons for. For Lamelo, which I damn near almost threw the fucking phone because there's no way that Boston is doing something like that at all.
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Raja Bell
Not even as a.
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Logan Murdoch
Like, not even as a.
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Raja Bell
Not even talking about. Like, yeah, just as an organizational fit. Like, not even on the court. Just as like a. An ambassador to Boston. I don't. I don't see that one.
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Logan Murdoch
That's not happening. Like, the. Like, is Miami taking on LaMelo Ball? Do I even really want LaMelo Ball in Miami?
- [37:15]
Raja Bell
Like, yeah, that's a no. That's. That's on both ends of the phone call. No thank you. No, thank you.
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Logan Murdoch
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Houston's also like that. I don't think I want Milo in Houston. Right. Like, I, he needs a shift in focus very clearly and I don't know if he was ever going to get that in Charlotte, but I think at this point it's just too far gone. Cliff just put in. What about the Clippers? I mean, no, like, I, I, that could be a thing. What the Clippers are at this point where they are trying to put, do everything that they can do to get Giannis under the Kumbo because they have no picks, they have no way of like improving their, their roster other than making trades, like maybe getting the ball. But what you want to do if you're trying to get a guy like Giannis is you're trying to build a team that will be, that will make Giannis excited to come to your team. And I don't think LaMelo Ball fits that bill.
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Raja Bell
No, I'm not, I'm not operating in the world where the clippers are targeting LaMelo because they think they're one move away from a championship. I was operating in the world with Cliff of if Harden's on his way out and we're going to basically strip this down, you get something that could be really, really exciting out in la.
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Logan Murdoch
Fuck it, huh?
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Raja Bell
Yeah, just fuck, right, I mean, fuck it, right? That's what I was. But yes, I understand what you're saying with the. If you're trying to win championships, I think I don't like to come on here and ever disrespect players. Like, I feel like the media that we are currently a part of, that I see and listen to all the time, far too often, is disrespectful to these world class one in a million athletes. And I've said this before, you know, some random person who's got a microphone in front of him is saying that someone sucks and calling him out of his name and calling him trash. Like, I think that's so utterly disrespectful. So I don't like to do that. I would say that I agree with you. I think that any team that considers themselves close to winning a championship, at least in the next few years, I don't think they think that they are a LaMelo ball piece away.
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Logan Murdoch
I'm just saying.
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Raja Bell
Is that. No, I mean, yeah, I mean, it.
- [39:39]
Logan Murdoch
Is what it is though, right? Like, his game doesn't suggest, like his game is. I'm going to just pull it from Three quarter court, I'm going to get the points and I'm not going to win games. Right? Like, and it's been like that since he was at, since he was in high school, right? He's at the same game basically since he's been in high school. It hasn't matured, it hasn't changed. He hasn't played within a team concept. I could buy that the front office, because this, let's be honest, man, no matter where the reporting goes and if it's conflicting, that some. That leak is coming from somewhere, right? It's, it's. It's coming from somewhere. And I could see a world where, you know, the Charlotte Hornets have a new front office regime. They're picking really good players. They're trying to get up out of this albatross of a team and the history of what it's been over the last few years, I could see, because if I was a gm, one of the first things I would try to do is try to trade Lamelo ball. Like that's just point blank. That's kind of what you have to do to just from a culture standpoint and a culture setting standpoint. Right. And it's just sad on the, on the other end for Lamelo ball because there's so much talent in there. We talked about that last year and have had arguments because of the talent level, that is.
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Raja Bell
I will not let anyone disrespect the talent level or the, or the craft. The craft of actually doing incredible things with a basketball in your hands that other human beings can't do. I'll never let anyone disrespect that.
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Logan Murdoch
No, not at all. But like, you know, you still have to strive to win. It's going to be, you know.
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Raja Bell
You know what's interesting to me? I. Cause I have. I have three boys and they were brought up like, you know, his older brothers don't seem to have that flair, if you will, that he has, um, you know, and, and Lonzo.
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Logan Murdoch
Lonzo has any spurts.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, but, but flair's probably the wrong word. Word. Um. Lonzo. I love Lonzo's game, but his game seems more rooted in, in winning, you know, more do what you need to do for a team, you know, to win basketball games. Less about the highlight all the time and more about, like the substance of it. When it was. When it was good, he'd still have highlights because he's an amazing player. I wonder if that's personality driven because all three of my sons are different, completely different personalities. Right. Like or if it was the brand of, like, big baller brand and all the media exposure that it brought to them in his window of adolescence and coming into his own. Like, he only knew cameras. Yeah, he only knew performing for cameras.
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Logan Murdoch
Yep.
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Raja Bell
And so if you get the perfect storm of a personality that, like, really enjoys that, but then it's. It's like it's reinforced because I'm living in this world, and everybody wants to see this crazy. This. This kind of viral game that I have that just kind of becomes what you are, right? Like, but that's just a fascinating conversation for me because I. I have the three boys with completely different personalities, and they would go about their business, like, and they do go about their business differently. But I always wonder with him if it's just who he is or if it's because those cameras combined with who he might have naturally been, been inclined to be in the first place.
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Logan Murdoch
I mean, I think it. For his generation is definitely both, because I think the generation that he is in definitely chases virality and chases the moment. You know, like, you even see what his brother. The tweaker stuff, right? Like, what was he. What was he chasing? He was chasing, like, a viral moment, and he got it right. Same with Lamelo with the highlights, right? Like, he. He.
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Raja Bell
He.
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Logan Murdoch
Excuse me. In plays where he can throw a simple bounce pass, it's like all over here and right here, I might throw it out of bounds. I might do so. Like when he was. When he was playing against Cliff Sixers and he's yelling for the ball in the way that he's yelling for the ball, like, I do believe at the back of his mind, he's thinking, oh, yo, this will get on. This is get clipped for sure. Like, this is going to get clipped. Everything's going to get clipped. Everything I do is gonna get clipped. I'm gonna use this to get clipped. You know? Like, I do think that.
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Raja Bell
I had a real. I had a weird interaction the other day. It wasn't weird, but I had a. A local guy who covers a lot of our high school sports. And so he covered Ty a lot this summer as he was on the circuit, my middle boy. And he said something to me, and it just kind of hit me. I was like, wow, that's a weird world to live in, where he was talking about covering high school sports. And he said that Ty has something marketable about him in a way, because when he makes a play or dunks on someone or something like that, he plays to the camera. Like, he will turn and Say something to the camera. Like, he's. He's. Ty said it himself. Like, he's not gonna dunk on you and then just run down the other court like he's gonna say something. And a lot of times, there's a camera there. But, like, that's so foreign to me. It's so foreign to me to hear that that's, like, a part of someone's reality. Right? That. That. That. That. And I don't even think Ty consciously does it to, like, build a brand. It's just kind of who he is as a person. But to have these people. Sport adjacent, that are. That are talking about young athletes this way, it's. It's just a weird. It's a weird subculture.
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Logan Murdoch
I mean, it's a weird. I see it now with my phone and all of these things in my laptop and my computer. Like, it feels like we're living in it, in an Internet world. And I know people are like, duh. But, like, it feels like we're in your generation where cameras were just, like, kind of accessory to all of this. It's like, we're. Now my generation and beyond are living in the camera and living in the TV in a weird. In a different way than you guys did, where we're. You know, where we're trying.
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Raja Bell
Where did you start? Where. Where did that start with basketball? Sorry. Like, what was it like? Was it that? Was it that, like, so many people have had a little, like, some sort of. All right. When I grew up, no one did shit when they made it three. Got your ass back on defense. This is old curmudgeon Roger, get off my lawn. But then you started seeing, you know, people slowly come up, like, you know, they had a three. They're going to the Dome. Or, like, you know, Q. Rich and. And.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah, well, you know, Jordan had the fist pump, though. Yeah.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, that. I think that was more celebratory. That wasn't like. That wasn't bigger moments. That wasn't. That wasn't like a. Hey, I do this when I. When I score a bucket. You know what I mean? Like, if MJ won a game, I.
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Logan Murdoch
Think I would say, like, it probably was more instinct than, like, intentionality. I think it's more intentionality now.
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Raja Bell
Yeah. Because I was at a game last night. Every kid. Every kid, they make a bucket.
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Logan Murdoch
Like when Jason Tatum says Kobe Bryant's quotes verbatim after winning the championship because he believes that's what you should do to win a championship, when you win a championship is to say something like, whatever Kobe said, right? Or. I don't know. But we play to the cameras a lot more now than. Than. Than you guys did. I will definitely say that. Okay. What happened with Maxi? Cliff? Let's talk about Maxi. Let's get it in. Let's do it.
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Cliff
Let's get it in. We got to get our Philly segment of the day in. Right, right, right.
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Logan Murdoch
Look right, Ross.
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Raja Bell
All right, let's.
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Cliff
Tyrese Maxey last night, overtime victory, dropped 54 career high on the Milwaukee Bucks. Now the Sixes currently stand at 9 and 6. There's been a lot of injury shuffles this season, but Maxey's on pace for a ton of high numbers. I mean, he's second in the league in scoring right now, averaging 33 points per game. That's seven points high, seven points higher than his than his average last year. As it stands, he's playing a ton of minutes. He's playing about 40 minutes per game. But, yes, he's the most consistent thing in Philadelphia right now as it comes to the Sixers, because we know the Eagles offense also is just. Yeah, we don't want to talk about that either. But. But Tyrese Maxey, Raj, man, I mean, he's fifth in mvp. He's fifth in odds in mvp. He's. He's balling out. He's going crazy. He's probably going to be all NBA, either first or second team, as you know, if he continues on his pace. Raj, what do you make of Tyrese Maxey and his efforts going on this season?
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Raja Bell
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, he was 18 for 30. I think when I looked to last night, right. Like, that's. He was really efficient with that. I mean, he's a. He's a bucket. He's continued to. To develop. And kudos to the Sixers for providing the room. Some of it was organic with some of the injuries that they had, but it provided the space and kind of the platform for him to do his thing. But bigger picture, it's what I said earlier in the season, that cat's out of the bag. Like, that's who you guys. That's who you are.
- [48:11]
Logan Murdoch
Right?
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Raja Bell
And so all efforts now should be to put a cast around that that will support it and help lift the. The overall efforts to the level that could compete for championships. So it's not as much a take about what he's done or how he's. How he's done it. Like when. When they put the ball in his hands. How many years ago was that before anyone knew that he was a bucket. I mean, he went right to getting buckets and it was pretty immediate. People were like, oh, shit, like, look at that. So he was, he was always destined, given the opportunity to continue to, to up the pace, if you will, in the scoring margin. But I think he's become a better lifter of teammates as well, if that makes sense. Right. Because purely scoring can be. And we just talked about Lamelo, a singular effort at times. You become a better player, leader, teammate, and you start to lift the players around you. That's when we can start talking about the conversation of, hey, man, how close are we? How many, how many steps are we away from being really, really viable? So I think he's taking those steps in leadership and making people around him better as well. Now the Sixers had to figure out what the recipe is around that.
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Logan Murdoch
I think I was watching the game against the Clippers. Me and Cliff be live Texas Sixers games. That's like our, that's our, that's our, that's our bonding strategy. We just, we just, we just text through Sixers games. But no, I, I, one thing that I can't, what I continue to see is just everybody consolidating around Maxi, right? This is, like you said very clearly his team Shout out Ringers Philly special. You know, the vibes, that's like, that's like our cousin podcast for sure. But it almost makes me think like, damn, could they could this. Is there a world where the Sixers could have just. If you could just do a time machine where you didn't have to make the Paul George trade, you didn't have to make the James Harden trade, and kind of just built around Maxi beforehand then. I know that, like Hindsight is always 2020, but that was always the frustrating thing that I would see whenever I would see the Sixers. Like, you clearly have this guard right here and you clearly have this guy that is maturing into a guard. You keep fucking trading people into the building that plays his position. Right. And I kind of wanted to see this maturation. I think they kind of gotten stunted just because of outside forces. But I'm really excited to see what he's doing right now. And I'm. And one of the things that kind of gave me you pause Raw was how would the integration be with Paul George and Joel and B, just with the egos. I, I gotta, I gotta give kudos to Paul George, who was definitely just played his role. He had nine points, I think against the Clippers, he had 21. In a complimentary role against the, the Bucks last night. I, I don't know what the Sixers are going to be, but they're building something right now. I love VJ Edgecomb every game. VJ Edge Comb. He may not, he may not get the 30 points that he got opening night, but he always does something. A big offensive rebound here, a big dunk to swing momentum there.
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Raja Bell
He flashes. He's going to.
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Logan Murdoch
Flashes. I don't know what he's going to be, but I, I think that they're. They just have dudes on this team and I think Maxi. One last thing. Maxi is going to. He has a. He's fifth in MVP odds behind Shea, Jokic, Luca and Giannis.
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Cliff
Wait, but why can't he win mvp though? That's my, that's my.
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Logan Murdoch
I'm saying, if he doesn't win mvp, why can't he win mvp? Because I don't think he's. Because it's a narrative based award and I think that's just the cliff homer because he's in there. Because he's not, bro. It's. This is going to be a two man race between Jokic, Shea. I think, I think Wimby's out of it. I think Luca has a chance, but I don't think Lucas winning it because he's in a Western Conference with, with Shea and Jokic. And if they, like. He would have to have. He would have to average 40 the entire season. Okay. Okay.
- [51:59]
Cliff
If not MVP. If not MVP, then can we get a first team, second team, all NBA?
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah, absolutely.
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Cliff
First team is going to be tough because of. I'm not sure if they do the position thing where he could get an all NBA team. Right. I believe first team would probably be Luka and Che if they remain healthy throughout the season. But I mean, second team, him and K, like that could be something right there, right? Or Ant or whoever.
- [52:20]
Logan Murdoch
Yeah, for sure. I think that. I think he could be in a mix in that. But all the same, I give some flowers.
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Raja Bell
I want to give some flowers. Just because you touched on like Paul George looking really complimentary and really comfortable in that. How long has it been since Joel played?
- [52:37]
Logan Murdoch
He hasn't played since November 8th.
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Raja Bell
All right, well, I watched one of those games. I can't remember which one it was, and maybe it was because of health. But I do want to give him some flowers too, because as I watch, I got the feel that he was not hell bent on being the focal point. Like, do you know what I mean? So, like, I want to Give him some credit. Small sample size, sure. Maybe. Maybe it was because he just physically couldn't do some of the things that we're used to seeing him do. But I thought it might be appropriate to share some with him too. Logan, because I got to feel watching that game that he was all right in the space that that ideally he should be in for this team to be the best version of itself.
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Logan Murdoch
Yeah. And thank like also like I think about the margins, man. Like, thank God, like James Harden pitched a fit and like dipped because it's opened up so much for maxi. I'm talking about from a maxi standpoint. He has the ball so much more in the way that. In the way that I think he's supposed to and able to lead this offense. It's just a series of fortunate events for him over the last couple of years and I think that for the Sixers to be successful going forward and I think a successful season for them right now is probably just playing like if he can get a six seed, fifth or sixth seed in the, in the Eastern Conference, I think that'll be a successful. They're not getting a championship, Cliff. I'm sorry, it's not happening this season. I apologize. But if they can just continue to build on what they're building right now, siphon out PG or have him have. Continue to have a limited role. Have a limited role within bead and continue to build around your core of maxi and Edgecomb and just bring dudes around them. I think they'll be a formidable force, especially as the Eastern Conference evolves from this just albatross. It's been. It's just terrible to watch Eastern Conference games. I'm sorry. Like either they have a whole bunch of people that we ain't ever heard of or they have a star that's out or the star that is just not playing up to potential. It's just. It's terrible to watch the Eastern Conference unless they're the Detroit Pistons. It's tough. It's a tough watch.
- [54:34]
Raja Bell
I was at the gym. I was at the gym yesterday. I was at the gym yesterday. I'd be remiss if I didn't say this. And the guy in the gym, obviously a homer. We're in the Miami market, but really likes their Miami Heat team this year. Thinks. Thinks the Heat should move off with Tyler Hero because of some of the stuff they got going on and see if they can get a few more pieces. This was this gentleman's take on that. But the market down here is really loving what they're seeing out of these. Miami Heat, apparently.
- [54:59]
Logan Murdoch
Okay, all right. Shout out. All right.
- [55:01]
Raja Bell
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- [55:24]
Cliff
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Raja Bell
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- [55:35]
Logan Murdoch
All right, let's. Let's get to a little segment we do on Friday that I don't think Roger's prepared for, but he's going to go first anyway. Real One of the week who's really.
- [55:45]
Raja Bell
So many candidates, don't know where to start. Loaded field this week I'm going to go with a college basketball player. Even within that smaller field, there was a lot of talent to talk about, but I'm going to go with a true freshman and again, still a lot of people that could get it because there are a lot of true freshmen playing really, really good in NCAA basketball right now. But I'm going to go with A.J. deBance, the he he again coop. It's been widely reported that he might have reclassed up so he didn't have to be in a class with that because AJ The Best is crazy, man. Some of the stuff he does with the ball in terms of get into spots, it's a pro game in college. It's going to be fun to watch him continue to develop, continue to produce and then watch him in the league. But so far, so good at byu. It's been fun to check him out. So AJ debance the Real one of the week.
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Logan Murdoch
Yes sir. Mine is going to be a little bit more somber. I wanted to do it last week, but a lot of news was kind of coming in and out and it was just really sad from where I'm from. But I want to give it to coach John Bean from Laney College. You know, just a tragic event that happened last week. The city is really hurting right now. And by the city, I mean the city of Oakland. Like, there's just been a lot of stuff going on out here and that was just. That was a really sad day and a really sad week. I mean anybody, especially for the football community in the Bay Area. I actually tried out for John Beam Laney College Eagles back in the day. Went there for like two days. It was weight training And I realized, like, I don't want to lift weights anymore. I don't want to play football anymore. I was done. But he was always a nice guy to me when I. In the interactions. But I think that it really put a black mark on Oakland at a time where we're really trying to kind of come out of that. And I don't. What I don't want is for this tragedy to make people, you know, not want to come here, not want to invest in this place. It's a special place. It's a beautiful place. And it's a place that's taken a lot of bruises and a lot of beatings. And I'm just sad for everybody involved. I'm really just like, I'm gutted. I was gutted when the news happened. I was gutted as you know. You know, the person was arrested just as the news was coming out. But John Beam was a pillar of, of Bay Area football and he should be recognized. And he, you know, it was very bittersweet to see, you know, like, the recognition that he got throughout the weekend because, like, you know, you'd rather him be here instead of just, you know, having all of that and just. It was just a real sad time for everybody. But I think that's all I got before I start crying.
- [58:44]
Raja Bell
By all accounts, like, way bigger than football, like, as a, as a human being. Right. Meant a lot to a lot of. A lot of people that needed a lot, you know, a lot of help.
- [58:56]
Logan Murdoch
Yeah, definitely. And like, you know, especially times when, you know, a lot of programs are getting rolled back. A lot of things are happening in the community that you need pillars like that. You know what I'm saying? You need people that are going to go kind of go above and beyond to make sure people are. Are good. So anyways, John Beam, ruin of the week. Yeah, man. That has been another edition of Real Ones. We will see you guys next week. Me, Raj, we only have one show next week on Tuesday. Me, Raja and Howard make sure you go tap in with the. Make sure Roger always try to pump fake and act like he's not gonna come, bro. It'd be pissing me off. I'm sorry if you pissing me off. I don't know, but I make sure you type in Realm smell back at gmail.com realmless mailbag@gmail.com. realm was maybe buildback gmail.com we'll be doing a Thanksgiving mail back. So honestly, make it open ended. Anything you guys want. Let's just answer your questions. Bro, we're just about to get ready to eat some turkey.
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Raja Bell
Yeah, they don't. Yeah, right. We're going. We're going. Basketball. It don't have to be all basketball next week, right? Like this?
- [60:01]
Logan Murdoch
Yeah, man. Just make it light, you know. Geez. Don't ask the overly intellect intellectual questions, not overly analytical questions because Roger ain't trying to hear all that, bro. Just, you know, listen, man, I. I.
- [60:14]
Raja Bell
Don'T know the defensive percentage rate against two pointers shot off the right wing for the Sacramento Kings in the third quarter.
- [60:20]
Logan Murdoch
I don't know that that was very specific, but. Okay, cool. What's happening?
- [60:26]
Raja Bell
But no, you know what I mean? Like, I don't think that's. I'm not gonna be able to answer those questions.
- [60:30]
Logan Murdoch
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyways, we'll see you guys next week. Tap in. Ah, all the shits. Bye. Must be 21 years and older and present in select states for Kansas and affiliation with the Kansas Star casino who are 18 and older and present in DC, Kentucky or Wyoming. Gambling prom called One Gambler 1. Visit rghelp.com call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org backslash chat in Connecticut or visit mdgamblinghelp.com in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit gamblinghelplinema.org or call 1-800-327-5050. For 24. 7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8-HOPE NY or text Hopeny in New York.