Podcast Summary
The Ringer NBA Show | Group Chat
Episode Title: Say One Nice Thing … About the East’s Tanktastic Bottom Five. Plus, UConn Shocks the World (Again)!
Hosts: Justin Verrier, Rob Mahoney, J. Kyle Mann
Release Date: March 30, 2026
Main Theme / Purpose
This episode features the “Group Chat” crew delivering their annual “Say One Nice Thing” about the NBA Eastern Conference's bottom five teams excelling at the not-so-glamorous art of tanking. The podcast opens with a lively and detailed recap of UConn’s dramatic NCAA Final Four advancement, punctuated by one of the wildest college basketball finishes the hosts can remember, before shifting to a creative, occasionally sarcastic, but ultimately insightful “compliment fest” for the Pacers, Wizards, Nets, Bulls, and Bucks.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
UConn’s Epic Win Over Duke
[02:34–13:36]
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Justin’s Euphoria:
- Justin beams with pride over UConn’s last-second comeback against Duke, calling it “one of the greatest sports moments of my life” [02:53].
- He details the 19-point comeback, Caravan’s clutch three, the missed Duke free throws, and Braylon Mullins’ deep game-winner:
- “What’s crazy about this shot is that… Yukon had shot 1 for 18 earlier in the game from three, couldn't make a goddamn thing. Mullins has struggled this entire season… All of that. And then we've seen the clip today of Dan Hurley, a complete and utter psychopath, just rubbing his head on the referee. It's unbelievable. Everything is crazy.” [03:39–05:50]
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Dan Hurley’s Wild Celebration and Referee Restraint:
- The crew marvels at Hurley “rubbing his head” on ref Roger Ayers, and the ref’s composure in not teeing him up at a critical moment [05:50–06:35].
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Strategic & NBA Draft Takes:
- Discussion of UConn’s nuanced offense vs. Duke’s size and defense [06:35–08:36].
- Focus on how Mullins and Caravan read the defense; the psychology of Mullins taking (and finally making) the clutch shot despite season-long struggles.
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Prospect Evaluations:
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Braylon Mullins:
- Justin is skeptical of his NBA ceiling, likening him to a JJ Redick/Joe Harris type but worrying that archetype is increasingly endangered in today’s NBA [12:53–13:36].
- Rob highlights movement shooters’ diminishing NBA roles: “If you're purely a movement shooter… I just think you are really, really limited in terms of what you can be as a pro…” [13:36].
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Cam Boozer (Duke):
- Kyle discusses Boozer’s old-school skillset and his potential fit as a smart, physical four at the next level. Rob sees him as a mismatch machine against smaller defenders, with stretch potential if the jumper comes along [17:02–19:35].
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Looking Ahead:
- Hosts preview UConn-Illinois & Wagla’s NBA prospects, marveling at his advanced, if unrefined, skillset [19:35–21:39].
- Justin expresses affection for Illinois prospect Wagla, for his “calm” and pro-ready deceleration and stepback moves [19:47–21:39].
Meta-Commentary & Podcast Banter
[27:08–28:44]
- Justin roasts Rob and Kyle for last week’s “nerd rock” Mount Rushmore segments, and the group continues to clown one another over the show’s indie obsessions and their true “nadir” moments.
- Here, they announce the theme: “Say One Nice Thing” about the East’s bottom five—a tongue-in-cheek yet sincere annual ritual [28:23–28:44].
The East’s Bottom Five: “Say One Nice Thing”
(Key Timestamps mark where each new team’s segment begins.)
Indiana Pacers
[29:43–39:44]
- State of the Tank: Pacers lose 18 of 19 after the deadline, but finally get a win vs. Miami. Kyle jokes about their “weird, shrouded, yet bridled competitiveness”—they outwardly try to lose but still play hard [31:38–33:16].
- Player & Lineup Silver Linings:
- Rob highlights “Pascal at the 5” (Siakam as a small-ball center), praising the look as “shockingly” effective and valuable for next year [33:53].
- Nemhardt’s playmaking and Kobe Brown’s emergence as a reliable rotation forward could greatly help their cap-strapped future [38:43].
- Reflection:
- Justin muses on Jay Huff’s limitations (“not a rebounder, the three-point shooting hasn’t been there… [He] never really came around…” [35:13]) and how desperate teams “find things in the void” at the bottom of the roster.
Notable Quotes
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Kyle (about competitiveness):
“There’s this weird, shrouded, yet bridled competitiveness with them…They are sabotaging but the moment that this stops…and they get [players] back… I still see the Pacers in there, but you have to really watch to see that.” [33:16] -
Rob (on Siakam at the 5):
“He does this stuff that’s pretty thankless—cross-matching against fives, playing center when asked. There aren’t a lot of fours in the league who want to do that, and Pascal Siakam does it and does it well…” [36:03]
Washington Wizards
[40:21–47:09]
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Rising Youth Movement:
- Rob and Kyle heap praise on rookie Will Riley for his late-season surge, shooting and playmaking, arguing he may leapfrog Bilal Coulibaly in the pecking order.
- “I would not be shocked whatsoever if by the time next year’s play-in comes around… Riley has maybe like hurdled Bilal Kula Bali in the rotation…” [42:12]
- Riley is described as “slinky off the dribble” with offensive instincts and natural passing [43:23].
- Rob and Kyle heap praise on rookie Will Riley for his late-season surge, shooting and playmaking, arguing he may leapfrog Bilal Coulibaly in the pecking order.
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Big Picture:
- Justin & Rob note the team’s youth pipeline is almost full—and their pending AD and Trae Young moves should be seen as “rehab weigh stations” meant to flip them for even more future assets [46:07].
- Team-building coherence: “Their team really is kind of carved in a certain path where it makes a certain amount of sense…” [47:23]
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Draft Outlook:
- Hosts expect the Wizards to be a play-in caliber team soon, depending on draft fortune and minor tweaks [47:23–47:59].
Brooklyn Nets
[48:35–59:56]
- Tanking Proficiency:
- The Nets are described as “experts at being shitty”—losing 20 of 22 at one point, displaying “the audacity to just be committed to the bit” as the league cracks down on tanking [48:35, 49:29].
- Rookie Evaluations:
- Justin praises Ben Saraf’s (Deni Avdija comp) north-south slashing, but questions if his quirks and the Nets’ muddled, too-young cast will translate [53:18–56:26].
- Jaeger Doman (shooter), Danny Wolf (defense, projectability), and Traore (raw) discussed—none has decisively emerged as a future building block; “It changes every month, and I think that’s the problem…” [55:25].
- Veteran Chemistry:
- Rob spotlights Nick Claxton & Michael Porter Jr. as the team’s best functional pairing, especially in DHOs (“They really work together within the context of what Jordy Fernandez wants to do…” [59:56–61:31]).
- Draft Needs:
- Kyle is adamant: “This team needs to get Darren Peterson. He plugs into exactly what they need…” [61:31–62:34].
Chicago Bulls
[65:24–72:17]
- Bleak Outlook:
- Hosts agree: the Bulls are perhaps worse off now than at the deadline, squeezed by structural problems (not bad enough to tank outright, not good enough to build around the current core).
- Player Appreciation:
- Encouragement for rookie Bouzellas as a multi-tool forward, “a real deal guy” [66:14].
- Leonard Miller, acquired almost as a throw-in, has shown flashes (“makes a lot of quick decisions, rebounding, role player with real length…” [67:20]).
- Giddy Gets Some Love:
- Justin points to Josh Giddy’s improvement: “He would be third in the NBA in assists this year… quietly become like the good version that we hoped he would become…” [70:35–71:36].
- Snarky Optimism:
- Kyle quips about punchy “job creation” for small scoring guards, proposing a “Ellis Island for small guards” Bulls statue [69:25–70:35].
Milwaukee Bucks
[72:19–80:55]
- Team in Turmoil:
- Doc Rivers is (half-jokingly) listed as a positive for his likely firing [73:35].
- The roster’s only clear win: “six different rotation players are shooting 40+ percent from three,” even if it means little without Giannis [74:14–76:49].
- Usman Jang and Gary Harris are highlighted for surprisingly positive contributions [76:49–77:43].
- Ownership Clarity:
- A rare firm statement: “one of their owners came out and was like, we’re either going to extend Giannis or trade him… at the very least, something more firm than I have seen from this organization in over a year…” [77:43–79:33].
- Conspiracy Corner:
- Justin wonders whether Bucks/players are intentionally ratcheting up pressure for Giannis to ask out; Rob: “Deserve has never had anything to do with it… There is no deserving in life…” [79:52–80:47].
- Closing Sentiment:
- “That’s all the nice stuff we could say about them. That wasn’t even that nice…” [80:50].
Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
- “One of the greatest sports moments of my life and also probably one of the biggest shots I’ve ever witnessed… The Braylon Mullin shot yesterday to practically ice Duke. Fucking Duke. Just my least favorite sports program in history. I am beaming right now.” — Justin Verrier [02:53]
- "There is no dignity in winning a couple games and getting the 5th pick and shooting yourself in the foot." — Rob Mahoney, on the Pacers' tanking [64:47]
- “They have become so good at being bad that it’s hard to miss. Like they’re experts at being shitty.” — Justin Verrier, about the tanking Nets [49:22]
- "There's an effortlessness to some of the skill stuff [with Will Riley] that clearly can't be taught." — Justin Verrier [44:39]
- “That’s all the nice stuff we could say about them. That wasn’t even that nice.” — Justin Verrier on the Bucks [80:50]
Additional Fun
- Continual digs among the hosts (“indie rock dweebs,” “Ellis Island for scoring guards,” “Cream City” jokes for Milwaukee).
- Justin’s personal life: bathroom reno setbacks, new metal garden beds, and his newly discovered espresso obsession serve as asides mirroring the teams’ “home improvement” sage.
Structure / Segment Timestamps (approximate)
- [01:20] Show intro & banter
- [02:12–21:39] UConn’s Final Four run, college prospects
- [27:08–28:44] Recapping pod banter and setting up “Say One Nice Thing”
- [29:43–39:44] Indiana Pacers
- [40:21–47:09] Washington Wizards
- [48:35–59:56] Brooklyn Nets
- [65:24–72:17] Chicago Bulls
- [72:19–80:55] Milwaukee Bucks
- [81:03–approx. 86:00] Non-sports life/renovation/espresso banter, outro
Takeaways
- The East’s tankers are varied in hopefulness, but slight silver linings (youth development, accidental chemistry, marginal rotation guys) can be found.
- Justin’s joy over UConn’s win and his sardonic cheerleading for the exercise thread the episode with both sarcasm and genuine passion.
- The episode offers a mix of sharp NBA analysis, realistic takes on organizational futility, and playful self-deprecation.
