Ayatollah Out, Freedom In

Summary

The Rob Carson Show – “Ayatollah Out, Freedom In”

Date: March 2, 2026
Podcast: The Rob Carson Show (Newsmax Podcasts)
Host: Rob Carson
Key Guests: Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, Iranian Commentator(s), Patrick Bet-David, Jim Gossett

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Episode Overview

This explosive episode centers on the historic global reaction to the death of Iran’s Supreme Leader, the Ayatollah, and the implications of President Donald Trump’s military strike that led to his demise. Rob Carson draws stark parallels to the fall of the Berlin Wall, positions Trump’s action as a pivotal moment for freedom, and brings out varied perspectives: military expertise from Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer, emotional resonance from voices in the Iranian diaspora, and reflections on Western political responses. The tone is celebratory, defiant, and unapologetically pro-Trump, mixing serious geopolitical analysis with humor and parody.

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Key Discussion Points

1. A Global Celebration and Historical Parallel

Timestamps: [00:37] – [04:39]

• Carson opens by describing celebrations around the world—in Persian and Jewish communities, Australia, Canada, Europe—after the death of the Iranian Ayatollah, calling it “a truly remarkable moment in world history. And America made it happen. Donald Trump made it happen.”
• He draws a personal parallel to witnessing the fall of the Berlin Wall and compares both the emotional and historic weight of these events:
  • “I remember the Berlin Wall falling…We all went to bars…regardless of your political affiliation and celebrated the freedom. Because it was a gigantic event.” ([01:10]–[02:20])
• Vivid recounting of the 1979 Iran Hostage Crisis, evoking national unity and the threat of radical Islamic rule:
  • “52 hostages were held for 444 days in Iran. Nobody said a thing about the Israeli hostages in America.” ([03:20])

Memorable Moment:

• Rob Carson: “It was a very frightening time…our nation was wrapped in coverage, praying that our hostages would get released.” ([03:39])

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2. Iranian Voices: The Weight of Occupation

Timestamps: [05:37] – [07:02]

• An Iranian commentator articulates the deep distinction between Persian identity and their Islamist rulers:
  • “Iranians are not Arab Islamists…occupied by a regime that is not their own, not speaking their language.”
• Describes symbolic erasure:
  • “The Islamist ayatollahs…took our flag…the Iranian flag has a lion and a sun…and they started to write on it. With Arabic writing, which is not Persian.” ([06:13])
  • “Would you think that’s our flag? Would you think, oh, this is…the government of America? Now you would be like, this is an Arab Islamist jihadist occupation.” ([06:45])

Notable Quote:

• Iranian commentator: “It’s not death to America…It’s thank you. It’s a new day dawning, but very early days.” ([07:53])

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3. Western Politics, Media Response, and Trump’s Critics

Timestamps: [07:02] – [10:29]

• Carson laments the lack of celebration from Democrats, accusing them of “trying to whiz on it”—making Trump’s actions seem illegal.
• Plays audio of Democrats opposing military strikes, notably Senator Tim Kaine:
  • “Senator Tim Kaine…calls [it] a completely unnecessary dark day…an idiotic and illegal war against Iran.” ([08:23])
• Carson’s Retort: “Yeah. That’s what they signed up for…You don’t even care. You are…rooting for American death. So you could say, aha.” ([08:52])

Notable Quote:

• Rob Carson: “The Democrat Party is defending Hitler. It is stunning.” ([08:23])

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4. Magnitude of the Strike: Historic and Religious Context

Timestamps: [10:29] – [12:18]

• Patrick Bet-David, an Iranian-American, highlights the religious significance:

  • “You’re killing the supreme leader of a religion. This is number two to God.” ([10:33])
  • “81% of Iranians hate this regime and they want it to be changed.” ([11:03])

• Carson and Schaefer frame this as a “liberation akin to when Hitler died”—a moment of cathartic global impact.

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5. Satire and Mockery: Parody of International Reactions

Timestamps: [13:05] – [14:01]

• Carson’s program makes space for humor and parody through a musical interlude by Jim Gossett, lampooning the regime’s collapse with a satirical version of “You Dropped a Bomb on Me.”
  • “Rob’s attack stopped us in our tracks. The Ayatollah’s gone. They’re toast... You dropped the bomb on me, Donald Baby.” ([13:05])

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6. Military Strategy and Execution: Inside ‘Operation Epic Fury’

Timestamps: [22:56] – [29:23]

• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer details the operation’s planning and flawless execution, praising the clarity and decisiveness of Trump and his military team:
  • “Despite all the other bluster from previous presidents, President Trump has had the moral high ground…He’s saying, yeah, we want regime change and that’s what we’re going for. And then beyond that, he had the political will to act, not only to say it, to do it.” ([23:08])
• Schaefer discusses the religious motivation of Iran’s theocracy (belief in the Twelfth Imam and an apocalyptic savior), explaining why their regime was so intransigent and dangerous.
  • “They believe they had to create circumstances for the apocalypse on the planet…to allow their savior to come back. Think about that for a second.” ([24:34])

Operation Details:

• The strike occurred during the Islamic Sabbath.
• Media, infrastructure, and military suppression: US and Israeli forces disabled air defenses, overwhelmed leadership meetings, and “decapitated” regime senior figures.
• A CIA tipoff led to the leaders being targeted:
  • “The mullahs were meeting in one place… It’s like bowling. We just put the bowling ball right down the middle and took them all away.” ([32:06])

Notable Quote:

• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer: “President Trump said, we are not here for regime change. This is up to the Iranian people. But we needed the nudge, right?...The Persian people are not fundamentally radical Islamist or Islamic at all.” ([27:24]–[28:21])

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7. Geopolitical Aftershocks and Looking Ahead

Timestamps: [29:23] – [37:06]

• Schaefer predicts a relatively short campaign (“…maybe two weeks because I think we’re going to run out of targets in about 10 days.” [30:58])
• Describes the hope for a “soft landing” that enables the Persian people to reclaim their country, highlighting the regime’s artificiality and foreign imposition.
• Carson skewers both NATO and the United Nations for tepid or knee-jerk responses, commending the “moral clarity” of this administration.

Notable Quote:

• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer: “He [Trump] actually has a vision and the ability to express the vision and make it real. Other presidents have played. We’ve had these forever wars…That’s all gone. He’s trying to accomplish things that will be permanent, sustainable and will indeed, you know, benefit the human race. He’s very Reagan-like on that.” ([35:58])

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8. Democratic Infighting, Western Elites, and Shifting Alliances

Timestamps: [18:25] – [19:49], [21:24] – [22:13]

• An Iranian commentator calls on Democrats to look beyond partisanship:
  • “It is imperative the Democratic Party wake up and get past their dislike of Donald Trump…This is about national security.”
• Praise for rare Democratic voices supporting the strike, especially John Fetterman, with Schaefer calling him “the only voice of reason in the Democrat Party.”

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9. Criticism of Past US Policy and Political Leaders

Timestamps: [37:41] – [39:20]

• Carson slams Barack Obama for the infamous $400 million cash transfer to Iran:
  • “That is how Obama destroyed things…I think Barack Obama leans into the radical Islam a little bit more than just thinking that he could placate the Ayatollah…” ([38:09])
• Calls out NY Mayor Zoran Mandami and the “WOKE nonsense” in New York for their criticism of the strike.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Rob Carson ([01:10]): “This is the Rob Carson Show. Those are celebrations around the world…a truly remarkable moment in history. And America made it happen. Donald Trump made it happen.”
• Iranian commentator ([05:37]): “Iranians are not Arab Islamists…They are occupied by a regime that is not their own.”
• Patrick Bet-David ([10:33]): “You’re killing the supreme leader of a religion. This is number two to God.”
• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer ([23:08]): “President Trump has had the moral high ground to act…He had the courage to say what he’s trying to do...and the political will to act, not only to say it, to do it.”
• Rob Carson ([32:06]): “All these 40 leaders of the country in one spot at one time is like, okay, well, there you go. It’s like bowling. We just put the bowling ball right down the middle and took them all away.”
• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer ([35:58]): “He’s trying to accomplish things that will be permanent, sustainable and will indeed, you know, benefit the human race. He’s very Reagan-like on that.”
• Rob Carson ([07:02]): “Now they’ve had several generations who grew up in that hell.”
• Jim Gossett parody ([13:05]): “You dropped a bomb on me, Donald Baby.”

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Celebrations & History – [00:37]–[04:39]
• Iranian Perspective on Occupation – [05:37]–[07:02]
• Western Political Response & Tim Kaine Clip – [07:02]–[10:29]
• Patrick Bet-David Analysis – [10:29]–[12:18]
• Parody Song – [13:05]–[14:01]
• Lt. Col. Tony Schaefer Military Breakdown – [22:56]–[37:06]
• Obama-era Iran Policies – [37:41]–[39:20]

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Conclusion

This Rob Carson Show episode borrows both the gravity of world-changing events and the buoyancy of talk radio bravado. At its core, it’s a triumphant, emotional, and partisan reflection on the death of Iran’s Ayatollah and the apparent triumph of Western-backed freedom. With a mix of firsthand accounts, expert analysis, and satirical musical interlude, Carson and his guests echo a message: the collapse of the Islamist regime in Iran is a world-historic turning point, and according to them, a distinct validation of American strength and leadership.

Recommended for listeners who want a deeply partisan and emotionally-charged take on current events, with moments of levity and biting critique of mainstream politics and media.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson]

You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide web. This is the Rob Farson Show. Those are celebrations around the world. Persians, Jews, Australians, Canadians, Great Britain, Switzerland, Germany, France, Canada. Celebrating around the world a truly remarkable moment in history and world history. And America made it happen. Donald Trump made it happen. He killed the ayatollah and many of his henchmen. And the second in line guy, he's probably like this weekend he said, okay, you're up next. And he's probably like, you know, I'm cool, I'm all right. You know this, I really, I don't need this job. I'm seriously, I'll be fine right here doing this. I'll just continue to, you know, chance to death to America and all that. But I'll let somebody, anybody else want to do this thing. And what is that laser red pointer thing doing on my forehead? What the hell is that all about? I have no idea. Yeah, we should be celebrating for the people of Persia. We've waited our entire lives for this. I remember there's several big, you know, events in my life. I remember the Berlin Wall falling. I was a kid right out of college and, and I watched it fall and I, and I celebrated because I'd, you know, been raised in the Cold War era and you know, we always had the threat of a nuclear holocaust. We missed the duck and cover days. That was more you boomers. But, but still there was, you remember the day after in the 1980s, a TV show. This is Lawrence, Kansas. And we were always had that shadow over our heads, the possibility of a nuclear conflict and Red dawn, the movie and all of that stuff, although that was Cuban. But when the Berlin Wall fell and we recognized, we realized that the monster that was the Soviet Union had fallen. We all celebrated. We all went to bars and we all went to with each other, regardless of your political affiliation and celebrated the freedom. Because it was a gigantic event. It was a gigantic event. I was a kid when the Ayatollah took over in Iran. It was a very frightening time. They took United States hostages. I remember every day as a kid, our nation was wrapped in coverage, praying that our hostages would get released. They had our hostages for 444 days. Let's do a little recap. So it was November. The Ayatollah. The Ayatollah and his radical Islamic henchmen. Fourth, 1979, when the Islamic Republic of Iran stripped 52Americans their freedom, their dignity, and their pride. 52 hostages were held for 444 days in Iran. From the. Nobody said a thing about the Israeli hostages in America. Nobody even knows their names. 1979 until January 1981. My father was William Keough, and he

[Iranian commentator]

was a hostage in Tehran. He was only supposed to be there for the weekend. And all hell broke loose.

[Rob Carson]

The terror. They brought Iranian women to the front door, then used them as shields as they broke through the American Embassy. So I will never forget the human rights of what they did to the Iranian women then. And, you know, obviously what still goes on to this day. Through the broken windows, I can remember hearing the traffic start in the morning peak and then die. And there would be day one, day five. And you're sitting there thinking that you're forgotten.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

From God, my family and my country. And it was in that order that kept me alive.

[Rob Carson]

It's Paul Needham. He was a hostage. And they endured so much. And our country was united then. And when Ronald Reagan was elected, they of course, let him go because they were afraid they're going to get their rear ends bombed back into the state Stone Age like. Like Donald Trump is doing right now. I was. You know, when I was a kid, I didn't. I didn't understand what had happened in Iran. And I wondered how they could go from the Shah to this. This Islamic 5th century, 7th century, you know, medieval society where women had no rights whatsoever. Because I was always taught the Shah was corrupt. And the Shah was this and the Shah was that, And. And, sure, you know, there. There was that, but nothing comp. The Ayatollah and the radical Islamist did. There's this podcast out of Canada, Michelle Ferrari, talking about what happened in Iran in 1979. And for the last 47 years, again,

[Iranian commentator]

Iranians are not Arab Islamists. They're Iranians. They've always been Iranians. They have occupied by a regime that is not their own, by a regime that is not speaking their language. By a regime. And let's make that very, very clear, because sometimes it's, like, hard for us to understand what happened inside of Iran.

[Rob Carson]

Can you imagine living under this, knowing they were interlopers not from your country? This is what they're trying to do here. This is what they are trying to do in France. This is what they are trying to do in Great Britain. This was the template.

[Iranian commentator]

The Islamist ayatollahs came to our country, and the first thing that they did, they took our flag. You know, our flag, the Iranian flag has a line and a sun on it, and it's a green, red and white. And they started to write on it. On. With Arabic writing.

[Rob Carson]

Yes.

[Iranian commentator]

Which is not Persian. It's not our. It's not our language on there. They took out our symbol of the lion and the sun and replaced it with an Allahu Akbar Islamic symbol in the middle. Just imagine Islam is taking over Washington.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Iranian commentator]

Taking the American flag, taking our flag, you know, keeping the colors in there and putting an Islamist symbol on it and an Arabic writing on it. Would you think that's our flag? Would you think, oh, this is. This is the government of America. Now you would be like, this is an Arab Islamist jihadist occupation.

[Rob Carson]

And now they've had several generations who grew up in that hell. Grew up in that hell. And the Democrat Party can't bring itself to celebrate, but Persians around the world are thanking America. And one Donald Trump. Thank you very much. Here they are singing the ymca, baby. This is New York.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. To be unhappy.

[Rob Carson]

I just love it. I love the Democrat Party doing this death spiral that they're doing. This is cbs. And the chance of death to America in Iran have been replaced.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The Iranian people, what are you hearing from them tonight? We know they're celebrating. What's the feeling?

[Iranian commentator]

It's a. It's an incredible dissonance that they had to choose war over a regime, but they were willing to do it. Thank you, Donald Trump. Thank you, Benjamin Netanyahu. Thank you, America. It's not death to America. After they killed the leader, the Americans and the Israelis did it. It's not death to Israel and death to America. It's thank you. It's a new day dawning, but very early days. Very, very early days. So we'll have to see what comes. But it's the Iranian people that have been telling me over and over and over again we want this.

[Rob Carson]

Hundreds of millions of people around the world are celebrating. I mean, it is glorious. And the Democrat Party tried to whiz on it. The Democrat Party tried to make it sound like Donald Trump was doing something illegal. And they're defending Hitler. The Democrat Party is defending Hitler. It is. It is. Honestly, it is stunning. And they think they're going to win the midterms. That's even better, right? They think they're going to win the midterms. Here's Tim Kaine. He's an awful senator from the state of Virginia and he calls while our. While our soldiers are flying through the air, while our soldiers are manning their battle stations, launching sorties, launching bombs, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, running radars, all that. He says the war is idiotic. Senator Tim Kaine coming to you on a dart day. President Trump has initiated a completely unnecessary dark day. It's a. It's a brilliant, wonderful day, very, in my view, really idiotic and illegal war against Iran earlier today, together with the nation of Israel. Wow. Reporting is showing that the president is acknowledging this will cost. Likely cost US Troops their lives. Yeah. That's what they signed up for. No reason. I first want to offer my prayers to all us Serve. Sure you do. You don't even care. You don't even care. You are actually, I think, probably rooting for American death. So you could say, aha. Aha. We don't look at our watches when the. The bodies come home like Joe Biden did, by the way. We don't do that. Ma'. Am, this is Patrick Bet David. He's an Iranian, by the way. I love his show. I really enjoy hearing him talk. This is. This will give you an idea of the profundity of what Donald Trump has done using the powers that he has. In a time where we are threatened and have been attacked for the last year countlessly and turned away attacks by the Iranians, we have been the victims of attacks. Over the decades, the world has experienced at least 50,000 attacks from Iranian proxies around the world. And now they're gone. Patrick Bet David.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The Supreme Leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei is officially dead.

[Rob Carson]

They killed him.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

They found his body. Reports came and let me tell you why this is big. This is not killing a president. This is not killing a prime minister. This is not killing a king. You're killing the supreme leader of a religion. This is number two to God.

[Rob Carson]

They killed.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

And by the way, the last time the supreme leader was alive, I was in Iran. It was 6-3-89 when he died. Khomeini. I was in fifth grade, at fifth grade at a school called Gulbengyan. And it was Chaotic in Iran because their hero died. This guy didn't die.

[Rob Carson]

They killed him.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

By the way, According to reports, 81% of Iranians hate this regime and they want it to be changed.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, there were a few who were on television who were weeping because, you know, they got one eye open. Like here. You seeing me weep here. Don't kill me, because I'm certainly down with the Ayatollah. I'm certainly down with the Ayatollah. But the rest of the country is celebrating. Celebrating like. Like they did when Hitler died. Celebrating when so many despots have. Have assumed room temperature. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Carson Show. Would I launch strikes in Mexico to stop drugs? It's okay with me. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Bang, bang, bang, bang. Boom, boom, boom, boom.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

How, how, how, how?

[Rob Carson]

Baby, it is a Monday in America and the United States has taken out the Ayatollah. I think it's time for a montage.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Don't play games. Don't play games with this President's in

[Rob Carson]

office because it's not going to turn out well.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

U.S. special Operations forces flew in from off the coast of Venezuela to snatch Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro and his wife. This is a president of action. Like, I don't understand yet how they

[Rob Carson]

haven't figured this out.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

And now, if you don't know, now you know.

[Rob Carson]

One of the ways that you establish peace in your own hemisphere is to make it clear that the United States is going to be respected. Maduro will never again be able to threaten an American citizen or anybody from Venezuela.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

This is the Western Hemisphere. This is where we live. And we're not going to allow the Western Hemisphere to be a base of operation for adversaries, competitors and rivals of the United States.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. The United States government has already begun

[Iranian commentator]

marketing Venezuelan crude oil and the globe it marketplace for the benefit of the United States.

[Rob Carson]

And now we're going into the Middle east and bringing peace like we haven't seen in our lifetimes. Here is Jim Gossett on the Rob Carson Show. Rob's attack stopped us in our tracks. The Ayatollah's gone. They're toast. Doing a dance. We didn't have a chance. The battle lines are drawn. You just blew us up, Donald. It's raining men. You dropped a bomb on us. You took us out and we left no doubt. And now we're history. My cover's blown. You send a drone and somehow it found me. And then you blew me up. You dropped a bomb on me, Donald Baby. You dropped the bomb on me.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

You had your fill. Now I'm Roquel.

[Rob Carson]

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[Iranian commentator]

I think that it is imperative the Democratic Party wake up and get past their dislike of Donald Trump, President Trump and their feelings of international conflicts going on. This is about national security. This is about.

[Rob Carson]

By the way, the only Democrat really on board is John Fetterman. I've got audio from him coming up. And you know what? I give him credit.

[Iranian commentator]

What is possible in the midd about being a good neighbor, good partner to the Gulf states and what their aspirations are. This is about supporting the people of Venezuela. This is about dismembering our relationship.

[Rob Carson]

Realize the joy that was caused when Maduro was really the millions of people who celebrated around the world. The media in our country ignored that. And now hundreds of millions of people surrounding the entire globe in places like Paris and Canada, celebrating freedom for the

[Iranian commentator]

Persian people with or not dismembering, but resetting our relationship with China. Right now, 75% of the oil production that Iran produces goes to China despite sanctions. You want to support the people of Ukraine. You want to end that war, you have to. There is no getting around dismembering this Islamic republic. It is non negotiable. It is not a want to have it as a have to have. And it's not just for the Iranian people. I think you have to trust the Iranian people. We know this government better than anyone else. When you dismember and decapitate this regime, you are going to see a change in the Middle east, in Venezuela and China and Ukraine. And I think, quite frankly, their ideology has.

[Rob Carson]

I told you, I told you when Donald Trump was elected. Freedom, patriotism, we're going to spread around the world. Faith is also, by the way, the Christian faith is the fastest growing faith worldwide. Islamists giving up their beliefs and investing in Jesus Christ. I'm not meaning to proselytize, but I told you this was going to happen. It's a glorious day. It's a historic time. Lt. Col. Tony Shaver coming up next. Don't go anywhere. Hey, John, not to scare you, but AI has completely changed the cybersecurity game. Scams are smarter, malware is faster, and phishing emails look shockingly real. But the good news, you don't need to be a tech expert to stay ahead of it. With Webroot total protection, you are protected. Plus, if you're sick and tired of dealing with a slow computer, Webroot is cloud based antivirus and anti phishing and anti malware engineered to stay out of your way. And because the intelligence lives in the cloud, Webroot keeps your computer running light, fast and smooth, all while defending you in real time against malware, phishing, ransomware and other threats. Whether you're working, browsing or streaming, Webroot is the antivirus protection that works for you, not against you. Make the switch and feel the difference of truly fast modern antivirus protection. For a limited time. You can save 60% on Webroot when you go to webroot.com Carson that's 60% off today. But only when you go to webroot.Com Carson that's webroot.com Carson.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

But you support the President's action here. Why? Well, because that was always the right thing. I mean, you can just put out, you know, tweets and statements, you know, to support peace, but to actually create real peace, you have to do these kinds of actions just like happened just like last year too, when they to destroy their nuclear facilities. You know, sometimes peace is possible after these kinds of steps and that's why I support those things. And, you know, I listened to my colleague from South Carolina earlier, and I even had the option, I mean, to talk to him before the State of the Union speech. And I encouraged it as well. So I fully support these kinds of things, and I'm proud to stand with our military and Israel through this, and that's what's the right thing.

[Rob Carson]

And he's the only voice of reason in the Democrat Party. It is remarkable the times we live in. I remember Desert Storm, Desert Shield. I remember the fall of the Berlin Wall. And we all came together. We all came together to celebrate freedom, to celebrate our military. But not now, because the Democrats have TDS so badly, they can't bring it upon themselves to celebrate the freedom, or at least potential freedom of the Persian people for the first time in 47 years. Tony Schaefer, lieutenant colonel from the U.S. army, also head of Project Sentinel, joins us on the Newsmax hotline. Good morning, sir. Good afternoon, I should say, on this historic day. How are you?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Always great to join you. Thanks for having me.

[Rob Carson]

I obviously, we knew this was going to happen. It was very obvious. It was just a matter of getting the chess pieces in place. What are your impressions on the first 48 hours of operation Epic Fury?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

The two things which really stand out is the fact that despite all the other bluster from previous presidents, President Trump has had the moral high ground to act. He's clearly articulated what we're doing, and he had the courage to say what he's trying to do, which is what politicians don't normally do. He's saying, yeah, we want regime change and that's what we're going for. And then beyond that, he had the political will to act, not only to say it, to do it. And he's been able over the last year to establish a force with my friend Pete Hagstaff leading the Pentagon as Secretary of War and an effective and smart Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Dan Kaine, General Kaine. He has the tools, techniques and technologies to do it, implement his political will in an effective way on the world stage. So it's been, it's been great. And I would give it overall an A at this point. You know, nothing's ever going to be perfect, but so far, so good.

[Rob Carson]

Well, the fact that they took out the ayatollah and many of his henchmen. I was reading a little bit about the CIA tip off that sparked Trump's brazen daylight raid on Iran's ayatollah. I texted you on Saturday morning, surprised that all of this was happening in Daylight, but also on a sacred day for Islam, right?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, it was on their Sabbath, essentially, and on holy day. But this is what I find interesting, and I think we should bring this up at this point. One of the things that was notable about the mullahs, about the theocracy is they were all motivated to believe that they are somehow chosen by God to do the evil they were doing. The Shia sect of the Islamic faith believes in something called the 12th Imam. Basically, they believe the Mahdi, the return of the Mahdi, to basically allow them to reform and reunify the faith, which is to bring in the Sunni, who is their enemy. They believe they had to create circumstance for the apocalypse on the planet, basically overall violence, basically, to basically allow for their savior to come back. Think about that for a second. Well, I think they really believed in their own mysticism, Rob. They believe somehow they were protected by their God. And maybe it's true. Maybe he decided it was time to see him and he allowed President Trump to bomb him.

[Rob Carson]

Just I, I, I'm interested to see. It sounds like the, the IRCG are collapsing. I understand that the government was able to get on Iranian television to take over Iranian television. A couple of other things have happened I thought were kind of interesting. Elon Musk has replaced the Islamic flag with the original flag of Iran and has gotten Starlink in there. And I just. There's no reconstituting this government. There's no reconstituting the ayatollah and the mullahs at this point, do you believe?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, I think that there's two pieces of the Iranian government were trying to basically break out. And just to be clear, and I'm not doing this to be provocative, but the irgc, basically, the Iranian Republican Guard, their job is to protect the mullahs. They are essentially the equivalent. And I'm going to say this and probably get in trouble. The Nazis, the Nazis had their own elements called the ss. And so just a quick. If you think of the Nazis as the mullahs, the IRGC is their version of the ss. They are a politically driven military, paramilitary wing. And then on the other side, you have the actual structure of the Iranian government, the military and that sort of thing, but not fundamentally, they're not part of that. So we're hoping to basically draw a division between the two so that the entire turns against the IRGC and the Mullis, that's the hope. And the idea here is to bring the whole thing into some sort of a soft landing that permits a transition of power from the mullahs to the people of the Persian people of Iran.

[Rob Carson]

You had mentioned earlier regime change. Donald Trump said in his address, he said, we are not here for regime change. This is up to the Iranian people. But we needed the nudge, right?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, the people want a regime change because they're cheering in the streets about us killing their leaders.

[Rob Carson]

Just saying. Yeah. Let me ask you this because you got the crown Prince Pahlav, who is talking about going back. And you know, I didn't really understand the shock as I was a kid when that happened. And then he was deposed and of course the mullahs were brought in, the ayatollah was brought in. And I didn't realize they're not Persian. This was an occupation. This has been an occupation for 47 years. The Persian people are not down with radical Islam, but they have had to abide by it and they've had to live this torture existence for 47 years. And I think the cork is off the GD's bottle and there's no putting it back, bro.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah. The Persian people are not fundamentally radical Islamic or Islamic at all. Zoroastrianism and Christianity are two of the primary drivers of their faith in the country. So they have essentially been prisoners of this theocracy. And oh, by the way, the French were the ones who helped provide, moved Khomeini, the first guy back into the country. And, and I think that's why Macron and company are all kind of whining right now about not wanting to be involved because they kind of caused this back in 79. Just saying. And then go ahead. On top of that, then you have this again, this very extreme religious sect, the, the, the, the Shia who do believe that it was their job. And this is why, you know, when people ask why were they trying to pursue nuclear weapons because they planned on using them, that's their intent, to bring about their version of the apocalypse for purposes of fulfilling their religious beliefs. And that true 100%.

[Rob Carson]

I'd like to, on the other side of the break, talk to you about NATO basically ignoring us. And then also Keir Starmer kind of doing it about face, among other things. I think that Donald Trump has given the, the global elites a little what fur and maybe shaken them up a little bit. We'll continue on the other side of the break with Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer. This is the Rob Carson Show Show. 15:38 3:38pm On Friday, February 27th, the United States Central Command through the Secretary of War received the final Go. Order from President Trump. The President directed and I quote, operation Epic Fury is approved. No aborts. Good luck, quote, close quote. In the region, every element of the joint force made their final preparations. Air defense batteries readied themselves, checking their systems to respond to Iranian attacks. Pilots and crews rehearsed their strike packages for the final time. Air crews began loading their final weapons. And two carrier strike groups began to move towards their launching points. Wow. That is, of course, Raisin Cain. Unbelievable. On the Newsmax hotline, Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer just. I'm so proud of our military, brother. I mean, as proud as I have been, you know, since post 9 11, what they have done and the way that they behave, the professionalism with which they've not only done this, but also the Maduro extraction, the bombing of the Iranian nuclear facilities. My God, America is so back, sir.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, it was great. We were talking, I was talking over there to a colleague, John Bachmann, about his new book Turning Point, about urgent fury, and about how it's interesting that they picked Epic Fury for the, you know, the title of the current operation based on what I, you know, President Reagan's first foray into military operations back in 83. So the military, there's a lot of parallels between President Trump building it back, President Reagan did, and the lethality. The fact that, that we have the ability to do things in a way that's effective, surgical and basically in line with the President's guidance has been fabulous. Now, we've had some losses, we're probably going to have some more, but the path forward is very clear that I don't think it's going to last four weeks. I think we're talking about maybe two weeks because I think we're going to run out of targets in about 10 days.

[Rob Carson]

Well, exactly. That's what I wanted to talk about. Talk about the, the progress of this mission, what came first, what came next and what we've achieved so far and have left. Go ahead.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

So you mentioned about the Iranian media being taken over command and other information operations capabilities were used to essentially bring down the ability of the regime to function. I can't get into all the details because some of those things I actually worked on back, back. So we'll just leave it at that. The Iranians were probably way surprised when things weren't working when they were supposed to. Just saying. And then the next thing was a clandestine infiltration of multiple drones and other technology to basically take down their vaunted surface to air missile system, which they bought from the Russians or The Russian investment didn't work. And so basically, we took down all those defenses. And then right after that is when all the resources from all of the Israeli Air Force and US Air Force came flying in. Multiple sorties all at once, overwhelming and effectively decapitating the leadership. And by the way, to your point about the CIA giving this great intel, the mullahs were meeting in one place. All these 40 leaders of the country in one spot at one time is like, okay, well, there you go. It's like bowling. We just put the bowling ball right down the middle and took them all away.

[Rob Carson]

There was. There was a transport with a. With a load of goats in lingerie, and they tracked it. They tracked it right to the building.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Well, no, look, I think we ought to be. The mullahs left ought to be thanking President Trump for allowing their leadership to meet Allah. I would be. This is a celebration as far as I'm concerned.

[Rob Carson]

Might as well go together. Might as well go together. But, you know, obviously, we're concerned about a vacuum of power. But I'm gonna. Like I said, it's not gonna be a protracted war, and I think it's gonna end a lot sooner. I think you're exactly right. We've really overwhelmed them, and they're doing their typical kind of bloviating and saying, oh, well, initially, Tony, they said, we have not launched our best aircraft yet. We are using the reserves. I'm like, yeah, you always get out your old crap, your old inventory you want to get rid of when you're. When you're at first defending yourself. So I think they're grasping at straws right now. They can still do damage. Don't get me wrong. They're very dangerous.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, they are. It's really ironic here, you know, And I've gotten some from folks who feel I've become a neocon. I'm not, because all of a sudden, I'm cheerleading this, and it's like, oh, President Trump said no new wars. No. He said no, no, no. He didn't say that. He said, no forever wars. He never said. He never made a claim once he would not use military force to defend our values, our equities, or our interests. He never said that.

[Rob Carson]

So this is such bullcrap. I'm just so done with this nonsense. I got into a stupid argument with my son and his couple friends at a little zoo, and I'm like, you know, you were just. Honestly, live a few years, come back, and we'll talk to you. When you want to celebrate the fact that we just liberated 90 million people and killed Hitler 2.0. All right, just get over it. My God. And they were still launching attacks on us. We were just defending. They were unsuccessful. They've been attacking us 180 times in the last year, for God's sake. And they wanted to reconstitute their nuclear program. So of course we had to take him out. It's just for the first time we have a guy who has the balls who will do it. Joe Biden would have done it. He didn't know what the hell he was doing.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Precisely. And by the way, there's some rumor I've been picked up on. I think there was some indications the Iranians are moving forward to not only in again their nuclear program. They may have been, may have been trying to purchase a new, a complete nuclear missile from a third party. Just saying. Well, that may have been one of the things that prompted what we did.

[Rob Carson]

Tony, in your life you've been in the military and you and I've been on the planet about the same amount of time. This is precipitous. This is as big I believe as the, as the Berlin Wall. And I think this can usher in a 2000 year long wait for peace in the Middle East. What are your thoughts in closing?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

So the president has been able to look at the globe from what he wants to accomplish. Now he's a builder. People tend to forget this. A builder looks at a project and tries to figure out how do I. My goal is to come out with something in the end something tangible. That's what he's doing. And he as a president has a massive amount of tools and resources available. What's different here, to your point, Rob, is he actually has a vision and the ability to express the vision and make it real. Other presidents have played. We've had these forever wars, we had these vanity projects. That's all gone. And he's trying to accomplish things that will be permanent, sustainable and will indeed, you know, benefit the human race. He's very Reagan like on that Reagan about trying to end the cold war to preserve humanity. Donald Trump has similar visions to see that we are able to end the scourge of radical Islam and defeat once and for all this communist undertone of our society that's been picked up by antifa and the left. It's just what he's trying to do.

[Rob Carson]

Amen, brother. Well, I, I'm glad you were found the time to talk to us today, Tony. Your, your, your knowledge and experience are invaluable to us. We Appreciate it. Where can people find all your work? Project Sentinel and whatnot?

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

Yeah, just check me out on X AT T. Spooky that most of my stuff is there. And of course, you know, always appreciate our conversations. Rob, thanks for having me.

[Rob Carson]

God bless, brother. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Welcome back to the Lead. I'm Jake Taffer in Ohio Battleground State, where we're covering the presidential contest.

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

But let's turn to our worldly continued

[Rob Carson]

outrage and controversy over that 400 million dollar cash transfer to Iran by the Obama administration on the same day four American prisoners were released by Iran. The White House denies that the money

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

was a ransom payment.

[Rob Carson]

Footage aired on Iranian television, however, purports to show the money arriving into Tehran. And that is raising renewed questions about

[Lieutenant Colonel Tony Schaefer]

whether this was a quid pro quo.

[Rob Carson]

That's how Obama destroyed things. I mean, what a feckless fool, an academic with no life experience. Just like the dip weed who's running New York right now, Zoran Mandami. And he sends The Ayatollah millions, $400 million in cash on pallets. This is like Neville Chamberlain on steroids. And to be quite honest, I think Barack Obama leans into the radical Islam a little bit more than just thinking that he could placate the Ayatollah. I'm thinking he's kind of down with the Ayatollah. After all, he does think the Muslim call, the prayer is the most beautiful sound ever. Even though radical Islam, I mean, I'm hoping that we can put it back on its heels and drive it right into the Straits of hell, the pits of hell. U.S. and New York lawmakers blasting Zoran Mandami for his post condemning the US Israeli attack on Iran. Of course he did. Here's what he said. Today's military, military strikes on Iran carried out by the United States and Israel mark a catastrophic escalation in an illegal war of aggression. Bombing cities, killing civilians, opening a new theater of war. Americans did not want this. Yeah, we did. We wanted to take the Ayatollah. But you see, you haven't been alive that long, you idiot. The ayatollah had already been in charge for 13 years when you were born. They did not want another war in pursuit of regime change. It's not any of those things. But you know what? You're a guy who's never had a real job. You've never had a real job. You've never run anything successfully. You're already doing a face plan in New York you're begging for money as the city goes bankrupt. You're going to have to cut the police force. You're leaving all your WOKE nonsense in order. All of your campaign promises have been broken. There are going to be no free buses. There's going to be no free rent. There's going to be none of that because you ran out of other people's money. So, honestly, when it comes to this, maybe you ought to keep your mouth shut, because you're already doing these radical Islamists doing their prayers in Times Square and the Muslim call to prayer five hours a day. You know, I'm thinking, I'm thinking you shouldn't be mayor much longer, to be quite honest, because New York City is tehran. On in 1979. Case you didn't understand. Last hour of the Rob Carson show right ahead. Don't go anywhere.