Breaking Chaos: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah Event

Summary

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Episode: “Breaking Chaos: Charlie Kirk Shot at Utah Event”

Date: September 10, 2025
Host: Rob Carson
Guests/Contributors: Luke Ball (Newsmax contributor, political strategist), Aaron Siri (vaccine lawsuit expert), Dr. Toby Rogan (physician, autism parent), John Katsimatidis, Scott Jennings
Main Theme:
This episode, originally intended as a typical mix of political talk, commentary, and humor, is overtaken by breaking news that conservative commentator and Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk was reportedly shot at a Utah event. Rob Carson and guests react in real time, processing limited details as they come in, reflecting on the escalation of political violence, and discussing wider societal and cultural issues, including vaccines, rising autism rates, and the ongoing political and ideological divisions in America.

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Overview

The show opens in its usual style, with Rob Carson blending humor and cutting political commentary, touching on several recent events and controversies. However, breaking news quickly overtakes the episode: Charlie Kirk, a prominent conservative activist and founder of Turning Point USA, is reported to have been shot at an event in Utah. Carson and Newsmax contributor Luke Ball provide real-time updates, reactions, and personal reflections on the event and its significance in the current political climate.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Climate of Political & Ideological Violence

[05:00–07:00, 21:06–38:50]

• Carson opens by discussing how increasing violence and divisive rhetoric have shaped American society since the Obama administration, referencing statistics on interracial crime and suggesting these trends are manufactured to divide.
• Quotes a segment from Greg Kelly (Newsmax) on the topic:

  “They really did. They created a race war. They tried it with Michael Brown... But it did happen when George Floyd died. So that was a trigger moment, obviously. A psyop. And I’m not playing along anymore.” — Rob Carson [02:50]

• Carson references the “leftward lurch” of the Democratic Party, calling out extremism, manipulation, and outside funding (with mentions of George Soros and foreign influence).

  “Democrats don’t do any of this nefarious bull crap unless they’re getting a command from on high. And usually that’s people like George Soros...” — Rob Carson [05:57]

• Numerous mentions of violence associated with political activism, linking to broader patterns: the burning of cities, attacks on ICE, targeting of conservative viewpoints.

2. Vaccines, Autism, and Government Accountability

[07:49–19:17]

• Carson presents testimony and interviews with Aaron Siri, expert on vaccine lawsuits, about a recently surfaced study from Henry Ford Medical Center — discussed as a bombshell — linking higher rates of chronic illness (asthma, neurodevelopmental disorders, ADHD, etc.) to vaccinated vs. unvaccinated children.

  "Vaccinated children had 4.29 times the rate of asthma, 5.96 times the rate of autoimmune disease... and 17% of unvaccinated children had a chronic health issue, while 57% of vaccinated children had at least one chronic health issue." — Aaron Siri [09:23–10:49]

• Dr. Toby Rogan details the exponential rise in autism, arguing genetic explanations fall short and citing research that suggests vaccines may be a significant factor.

  “Two massive studies from the best epidemiologists in California show that changes in diagnostic criteria only explain a small fraction of the rise in autism prevalence.” — Dr. Toby Rogan [15:48] “The human genome just doesn’t change that fast.” — Dr. Toby Rogan [16:27]

• Carson voices outrage at perceived inaction from the CDC, FDA, and others, culminating in calls for accountability and criminal proceedings if malfeasance is proven.

3. Education, School Closures, and Long-term Impact of COVID Responses

[18:16–19:16]

• Scott Jennings takes Randy Weingarten, leader of the teachers union, to task for her role in COVID-era school closures, with Carson amplifying criticism and linking it to the rise of childhood mental health issues and poor educational outcomes.

  “I want you to go to jail. I want you to sit in front of a tribunal, you wretched, awful woman.” — Rob Carson [19:17]

4. Charlie Kirk Shooting: Real-Time Reactions and Reflections

[21:06–38:54]

• Initial Breaking News:
  • Luke Ball reports that shots were fired at Charlie Kirk’s event at Utah Valley University; unconfirmed early reports indicate Kirk may have been hit in the neck.

    “All I know... is that shots had rang out at his Utah Valley University’s Prove Me Wrong tour stop... There are unconfirmed reports that he was shot, some people are saying in the neck.” — Luke Ball [21:06]

  • Carson reacts with shock, describes Kirk as a “major threat to the left” and a “generational leader.”

    “He is a major threat. He is a generational leader like we’ve never seen for Millennials and Generation Z.” — Rob Carson [21:54]

• Processing the Aftermath:
  • Both express deep anger and grief, framing the attack as evidence of escalating intolerance and the failure of civil discourse.
  • Calls for prayer for Kirk, expressing hope for his recovery and sorrow at the apparent loss of innocence in political discussion.

    “Please, please, God, let him be okay. He has led so many young people with truth and a powerful message for good...” — Rob Carson [24:31]

  • The discussion circles back to themes of rampant left-wing violence, referencing historical events (Trump assassination attempts, Steve Scalise shooting, riots).
  • Carson declares a breaking point:

    “I’m just, I’m effing done with it. I’m done with these people... I’m bloody done with it.” — Rob Carson [29:38]

  • Luke Ball echoes these sentiments, worrying about what this means for political engagement, debate, and the future:

    "The anger and rage that has come out of the other side is oftentimes nothing more than pure evil." — Luke Ball [27:24]

• Updates & Prayer:
  • Ball confirms that new video appears to show Kirk being shot in the neck.

    “There’s no way that he was not shot in some form. It looks pretty bad, man.” — Luke Ball [32:14]

  • Both join in prayer for Kirk and all those affected, with Ball leading a moment of prayer on air.

    "Heavenly Father, we just pray for Charlie Kirk and all of those who are there at this Utah event... I pray that you’ll work a miracle here and allow him to pull through and come back even stronger than ever.” — Luke Ball [37:31]

  • Carson links this moment to a wider “turning point” in American political and cultural conflict.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

Vaccine & Autism Segment

• Aaron Siri:

  “Vaccinated children had 4.29 times the rate of asthma, 5.96 times the rate of autoimmune disease... and 17% of unvaccinated children had a chronic health issue, while 57% of vaccinated children had at least one chronic health issue.” [(09:23–10:49)]

• Dr. Toby Rogan:

  “The human genome just doesn’t change that fast.” [(16:27)]
  “Vaccination increases autism risk five fold.” [(17:22)]

• Rob Carson:

  “There’s nothing genetic about autism. It’s not genetic. You don’t have it in your genes.” [(16:28)]

On Rising Political Violence

• Rob Carson:

  “Democrats don’t do any of this nefarious bull crap unless they’re getting a command from on high.” [(05:57)]
  “You messed with the best armed, intellectually and physically people in the world, and we’ve had enough.” [(30:52)]

• Luke Ball:

  “The anger and rage that has come out of the other side is oftentimes nothing more than pure evil.” [(27:24)]
  “What they want us to do is shut up and go away. And they can’t beat us at arguments... so they come at us with bullets.” [(28:46)]

Charlie Kirk Shooting

• Rob Carson:

  “He is a generational leader like we’ve never seen for Millennials and Generation Z.” [(21:54)]
  “I’m effing done with it. I’m done with these people.” [(29:38)]
  “Let this be the turning point.” [(End)]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:56 — Carson introduces the third hour, teases a packed segment.
• 02:50 — Discussion of government & media narratives about crime and race (Greg Kelly montage).
• 04:17 — Discussion about socialism/communism’s failures (John Fetterman, John Katsimatidis).
• 07:49–11:17 — Vaccine study segment w/ Aaron Siri, alarming increases in chronic illnesses among vaccinated children.
• 12:56–17:31 — RFK Jr. and Dr. Toby Rogan on U.S. health outcomes and autism rates.
• 18:16–19:17 — Scott Jennings confronts Randy Weingarten over COVID school closures.
• 21:06–24:31 — BREAKING: First mention and discussion of Charlie Kirk shooting; real-time processing.
• 24:30–38:54 — Intense reactions, anger at political violence, calls for prayer, real-time updates as the news develops.
• 37:31 — Live prayer for Charlie Kirk by Luke Ball.

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Tone & Style

• Tone: Highly emotional and combative; alternates between outrage, sorrow, and calls to action. Frequent use of humor and sarcasm in typical Rob Carson style, though these fade as the episode turns to the breaking news.
• Language: Direct, explicit, at times coarse; strongly opinionated and partisan.

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Conclusion

This episode of The Rob Carson Show is both a window into the mindset of many right-of-center media figures in 2025 and a somber time capsule of a shocking event. Combining sharp, often caustic political commentary with raw, unscripted reactions to tragedy, Carson and guests grapple with the meaning of rising violence and division, linking recent events to longer arcs in American society and history. The breaking news of Charlie Kirk’s shooting deeply affects the hosts and colors the latter half of the episode with anger, solidarity, and a call for unity, vigilance, and prayer among their audience.

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Summary

• Focused initially on rising violence, government distrust, and health-related controversies.
• Shifted dramatically in real-time upon reports that Charlie Kirk was shot during a Utah event.
• Hosts and guests process news as updates roll in: expressions of shock, outrage, prayer, and broader reflection on political and cultural divisions.
• Key themes: violence and intolerance, vaccine safety concerns, failures of government and education systems, need for accountability, and a call to action for the conservative movement.

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For Listeners:

If you have not heard this episode, expect a combination of sharp, even abrasive, political talk and genuine, unfiltered reaction to a major breaking event. The podcast provides both context on the shooting and broader reflections on the state of American politics and society through a distinctly conservative lens.

Transcript

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[Luke Ball]

I literally was in a former communist nation, and I asked that. I said, some people in my party, some of the lefties are talking about socialism now. What do you think? He's like, that's the worst thing ever. You're gonna need a reality check if you ever adopt any of those things, you know, like, you are morons.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Yeah. So even John Fetterman has the common sense. Thanks to somebody turning off and turning on his brain, he was able to kind of figure out, oh, yeah, you know what? I think they tried communism, socialism, and just killed a couple hundred million people that century. So maybe it doesn't work. Dirt, dirt, dirt. Then there's a John Katsamedis. He's a guy who owns a bunch of Grocery stores in New York City. He also owns WABC in New York. I should be on that station. I should be just like Rush Limbaugh used to be. But I mean, he was talking about, you know, how this Zoharon Mandami, this moron dummy, wants to become the communist socialist mayor of New York City. And here he is talking about chasing out all the people with the money in New York City.

[John Katsamedis]

1% of New York City people pay 48% of the taxes.

[Rob Carson]

That's the same thing that happens everywhere, by the way.

[John Katsamedis]

Pretty much after that 1% leave, what happens? Kaput, you know, and the people that are earning pensions right now, where's the money for the pensions? Oh, yeah, and it doesn't work. What I talked to Tom Holman about in my show, as I said, let's put a ICE agent at every poll when it comes to voting.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[John Katsamedis]

Guess what? He'll lose by a big number.

[Rob Carson]

Oh, yeah, you. That's what they're going to do.

[John Katsamedis]

The other thing you have to do is he is a created character. He was 1% of the vote in June or July.

[Rob Carson]

Listen, listen, listen, listen. Democrats don't do any of this nefarious bull crap unless they're getting a command from on high. And usually that's people like George Soros.

[John Katsamedis]

All of a sudden, $50 million shows up in the Working Families Party C4 account. And guess what? Where did that 50 million come from? It came from the New York Post Sorrows. It came from some people in Singapore. It came from, well, maybe his mother. Qatar. It was in the New York Post the other day. Qatar is funding his mother to the tens and twenties of millions. If they, if the Department of Justice connects the fact that he knew there was foreign money, foreign money that put those hundreds of people out there to get them to the 50% from 1%, then I believe that he's out of the race.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Yeah. Bought and paid for, man. He's a Manchurian candidate, as they like to say, for show. I want to mention this. This is important. I want to get to Greg Kelly's monologue and the timeline and all that. But an audience erupted as the vaccine lawsuit expert Aaron Seri torched Democrat Senator Blumenthal for his pathetic attempt to discredit him after Siri exposes a study buried showing vaccinated kids face skyrocketing chronic illnesses. Aaron Seri was there. There was a Dr. Martin Marcus Zervos. And I'm not afraid to say it. It is not disinformation and misinformation There's a reason why kids have autism. Used to be 1 in 10,000, now is 1 in 31 nationally and 1 in 12 in California. And this hearing yesterday was pretty amazing. This is Blumenthal getting humiliated. The Democrat Party, all they do is they throw rocks at these. These hearings and try to act like they're pompous. Well, they are. You know, know it alls. And he just got downsized. Listen to this.

[Scott Jennings]

We've been talking about medical issues. You're not a medical doctor, are you?

[Aaron Siri]

No, sir.

[Rob Carson]

And you're not an immunology immunologist. Blumenthal. Think he's got a. Aha moment. Ologist or biologist or any kind of.

[Aaron Siri]

Or vaccinologist? No, but I depose them regularly, including the world's leading ones with regards to vaccines. And I have to make my claims based on actual evidence when I go to court. With regards to vaccines, I don't get to rely on titles.

[Luke Ball]

Okay.

[Rob Carson]

There you go. Nice try. And here's what he said about a new study that's been buried, that's coming out that shows what happens to kids unvaccinated versus, you know, 70 shots.

[Aaron Siri]

In early 2020, I received a copy of the study. It showed the results of the analysis comparing children enrolled in Henry Ford From 2000 to 2016, from birth onward, who had no vaccines compared to those who had one or more vaccines. This study was based on actual medical records?

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. This is the Henry Ford Medical center study. Enrolled at Henry Ford from 202016 from birth onward. With regard to unvaccinated versus vaccinated, you had better pay attention to this, particularly if you have a kid who has autism.

[Aaron Siri]

Meaning? Finally, a large vaccinated versus unvaccinated study using health data from a major United States health institution. Something, as the IOM pointed out, never existed before. The study began by explaining it set out to reduce vaccine hesitancy by assuring parents the CDC vaccine schedule is safe.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Safe, safe, safe.

[Aaron Siri]

These researchers found, was that vaccinated children had 4.29 times the rate of asthma, 3.03 times the rate of atopic disease, 5.96 times the rate of autoimmune disease.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Aaron Siri]

And 5.53 times the rate of neurodevelopmental disorders.

[Rob Carson]

Wow.

[Aaron Siri]

Which included 3.28 times the rate of developmental delay, and 4.47 times the rate of speech disorder. All of these findings were statistically significant.

[Rob Carson]

You filthy SOBs. Oh, man, oh, man, oh, man. Peanut allergies. When I was a kid, you. You Know, if you, if you had a kid in the, in the cafeteria, exposed to a peanut, he wouldn't die. He wouldn't die. And autism was one every 10,000.

[Aaron Siri]

There was also other conditions for which there were numerous cases in the vaccinated group, but zero in the unvaccinated group. Hence, the rate cannot be calculated. Well, including brain dysfunction, adhd, learning disabilities, intellectual disabilities, and tick.

[Rob Carson]

Whoa. Adhd. Really? No kidding. Then they start, you know, medicating the crap out of every kid in the country because of ADD and ADHD. Really?

[Aaron Siri]

For example, there were 262 cases of ADHD in the vaccinated group, and there were none in the unvaccinated group.

[Rob Carson]

Did you hear that? My. One of my children is on ADHD meds. And I said bull crap. I almost said bs. Ooh. I disagreed with it. And you know what? It's done nothing good.

[Aaron Siri]

These findings were troubling, including because these chronic health issues can be caused by immune systems dysregulation and vaccines can cause immune system dysregulation. Citations for this or in my written submission. Overall, the study found that after 10 years, 17% of the unvaccinated children had a chronic health issue, while 57% of the vaccinated children had at least one chronic health issue, often multiple. That's 17 versus 57%.

[Rob Carson]

I'll tell you what. I've got a niece who has a daughter who's so profoundly autistic she has to be institutionalized. She bangs her head against the wall, she will never have a normal life. I wonder how many children. Oh, my God. I wonder how many children. Dr. Marcus Zervos, head of infectious disease at Henry Ford, about as pro vaccine as possible. He. He appeared yesterday. No, actually, he didn't appear yesterday. There's another doctor, Dr. Toby Rogan, who has a kid with autism. I'm going to share the audio on that. On the other side of this break. Told you. This is a serendipitous moment in our lives. There's so much coming at us at light speed, it's overwhelming. And you will not be able to recognize the profundity of it for years. So I'll do my best to cover it as it's happening. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Poor little Democrats. Are you guys okay today that I came in to check on you? Every time Trump does something good, you guys spazz out. Would you guys shut up and let him work? Come on. Right into Metallica. Yeah, you little beta male. Democrats, you don't understand Metallica probably because most of you want to become girls know. Here's RFK Jr being being interviewed at the White House yesterday.

[Luke Ball]

CDC is a broken agency. It's presided over the biggest decline in.

[Rob Carson]

Health of any country in the world. And we're going to change that. We have to make change there.

[Luke Ball]

We literally had the worst outcomes during.

[Rob Carson]

COVID We had the highest death count in the world. We have 4.2% of the world's population.

[Luke Ball]

We had 20% of the COVID deaths. That is not a winning record.

[Rob Carson]

I was brought in like a general.

[Luke Ball]

Manager of the losing his team in baseball.

[Rob Carson]

You would want them to make some.

[Luke Ball]

Changes when they come in.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah. You know, it's kind of funny because the Democrats also, Donald Trump made Washington D.C. incredibly, incredibly safe. And they are freaking out about this too. Even though it's obvious. Obvious the agents of change for good are in control now. Well, I think what's important is that the cities that he's talking about, particularly.

[Aaron Siri]

Chicago mayors, governors, they know their cities, they know their states the best. They know what they need in those cities and what they don't need.

[Rob Carson]

And when you send in our National.

[Aaron Siri]

Guard, I mean, these are men and women trained to fight our wars.

[Rob Carson]

So they're not trained. That is Sabrina saying she used to work with the Biden administration. Why do Democrats want to keep us miserable and sick? It makes you kind of wonder, doesn't it? No, I don't. I don't doubt it at all. Not one little bit. Because they're awful, wretched Marxist extremist leftists. B words. That's what they are. Yeah. I have no time for it at all. No time for this nonsense anymore. I had mentioned that. Yeah. It was a hearing on Capitol Hill yesterday and you heard the doctor, the area, Aaron Seri, the, the attorney, speaking about the incidents of all of these childhood diseases related to the vaccine schedule. We were told this was all going to come out in September. Remember when RFK said that a few months ago? It's all going to come out. This is Dr. Toby Rogan. He has a child who has autism. I want you to listen to his testim.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

Here are the facts. In 1970, the first autism prevalence study in the US found an autism rate of less than 1 in 10,000 children.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

According to a study by the EPA, sometime around 1987, the autism rate in the US began to skyrocket.

[Rob Carson]

Why didn't the sons of bees in charge of the CDC and HHS and FDA do anything about it? 40 years. Nothing.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

The most recent report from the CDC showed that 1 in 318 year old children in the U.S. in 2022 were on the autism spectrum. That's a 32,158% increase in the last 52 years.

[Rob Carson]

They didn't do anything. I say fire everybody at both agencies. All three of them. Fire them all. Hell yeah. Start over. Just like the FBI.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

Two massive studies from the best epidemiologists in California show that changes in diagnostic criteria only explain a small fraction of the rise in autism prevalence. There are 22 studies that claim that vaccines don't cause autism.

[Rob Carson]

Yeah, weird.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

None of these studies have a completely unvaccinated control group. So unfortunately, if you want to understand what's causing the autism epidemic, these studies are of no use. Then there are five large genetic research projects. The search for the gene for autism has consumed over $2.3 billion, and researchers have almost nothing to show for it because genes don't suddenly create epidemics.

[Rob Carson]

Thank you.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

The human genome just doesn't change that.

[Rob Carson]

There's nothing genetic about autism. It's not genetic. You don't have it in your genes. Here's a little bit more from Toby Rogan.

[Dr. Toby Rogan]

None of these studies control for vaccines as a possible covariate or confounder. So it's impossible to know the true impact of these variables. The critical missing piece in autism research is vaccinated versus unvaccinated studies. Thankfully, there are now six good studies that we can rely on. Unfortunately, these studies have been systematically suppressed and ignored by the mainstream media and the medical establishment. Two studies by Gallagher and Goodman show that the birth dose of the hepatitis B vaccine significantly increases autism risk. Three studies by Anthony Mawson confirmed that vaccination increases the odds of developing autism by at least 4.2 fold. Preterm birth coupled with vaccine vaccination increases the odds of neural developmental disability by more than 12 fold compared to preterm birth without vaccination. And finally, a study by Hooker and Miller published in 2021 found that vaccination increases autism risk five fold.

[Rob Carson]

Wow. Well, that's kind of interesting, ain't it? I gotta tell you, if this comes out in the wash, I want to peep. I want to see people go to jail. I do. This is. My computer's being weird here. People are going to have to go to jail for this. There has been a cabal in charge of our health for a very long time, and they have gotten very, very rich. I want you to listen to Scott Jennings taking down Randy Weingarten. The Marxist communist head of the teachers unions, one of the largest teachers unions, by the way, who shut down schools, destroyed the lives of children, including my kids. Really, really hurt the hell out of my kids. Here's Kyle Jennings taking her down on cnn.

[Scott Jennings]

We don't know each other for Covid. For the COVID bull crap of millions of American parents. I have four at home. I had to teach them at home. My wife had to teach them at home. I am stunned at what you have said this week about your claiming to have wanted to reopen schools. I think most you'll find that most parents believe you were the tip of the spear of school closures. There are numero you made over the summer of 20 scaring people to death about the possibility of opening schools. And I hear no remorse whatsoever about the generational damage that's been done to these guys. I have two kids with learning differences. Do you know how hard it is for them to learn at home and not in a classroom that was designed for them? And for you to sit in front of Congress and the American people and say, oh, I wanted to open them the whole time I am shocked. I'm stunned. I'm stunned. And there are millions of parents who feel the exact same way.

[Rob Carson]

I want you to go to jail. I want you to sit in front of a tribunal, you wretched, awful woman. Young America faces an economic crisis. Line chart that tracks U.S. unemployment rates monthly from January 2021 to 25. Ranges 816 to 24. 6 from 6.6% in April 2023 to 11.4. Unemployment in 2021 rising to 10.5%. August 2025. Ages 16 and older rates from whatever. Anyway, younger adults face a worse ending job market. And there's a number of reasons and I think a good deal of it was their lives being freaking ruined during COVID Ruined during COVID Then you combine it with all of the nonsense that they were taught. And then of course they go to schools. They spend hundreds of thousand dollars on worthless freaking degrees. Look what they did to our kids. Yes, we are in charge of our kids, but if we got to send our kids to public schools and all of this, look what they've done. We are reaping the fruits that have been sowed. The fruits, the seeds have been sowed. The fruits are this. Are this. We gotta fight for our kids and hold the people who did all of this. Vaccine mandates, etc. Covid nonsense, ADHD, AD, ADD, all of that nonsense. They have to be held accountable. Remember, we Live in very, very serendipitous times. The profundity of November 5th is massive. Let's take a break and come back. Luke Ball joins us next. Don't go anywhere. It's Rob Carson show. I'm going to just say right now there's some breaking news about Charlie Kirk. I was unaware of it. I've been watching my social media, didn't see anything. Luke Ball, Newsmax contributor, Political strategist Charlie Kirk has been shot. What is going on, brother? What have you heard?

[Luke Ball]

So all I know, and you know, we're going to come on and have some fun today, but I was just, someone just told me, and it's on Twitter, on social media, that shots had rang out at his Utah Valley University's Prove Me Wrong tour stop and that somebody saw Charlie fall out of his chair. There are unconfirmed reports that he was shot, Some people are saying in the neck. Again, we do not know. This is breaking information just minutes ago that there were shots fired at his events in Utah. We do not have confirmations just yet, but all over social media we are getting shots fired. Looks like the Daily Mail, possibly in the United States, has just reported shots fired at the Charlie Kirk event at Utah Valley University. That's all we know right now. And some people are saying on social media that he was shot potentially in the neck.

[Rob Carson]

All right, my God in heaven. Obviously, Charlie Kirk is a massive, has had a massive influence, particularly on young people in America. Clearly a major threat to the left. He, he got kids to the polls. He, you can't even begin to quantify the impact that he has had on young people, particularly in college. And you know that he's, dude, he is a major threat. He is, he is a generational leader like we've never seen for millennials and Generation Z. I can't even begin to quantify what he's done. I mean, look at what he's done. Look at, he has created tbusa. It has got chapters across the country. He is electric, he is amazing. And he is also a massive threat to the thought domination of the left, particularly with young people. I swear to God in heaven. Shot in the neck.

[Luke Ball]

We are only seeing that there are reports from the Daily Mail that there were shots fired at Charlie Crook event social media users saying that he was shot potentially in the neck. So all we can do is pray for him at this point. But you're right, Rob. I mean, this is not how we debate in the United States. This is not how we have an exchange of ideas or try to Claw on top of each other. We have conversations. That's all he was doing. And yet we see an outpouring of violence as a result of it. And, I mean, like, you know, I'm numb because I don't know him personally, but he has been an impact on many people in my generation. And this is just like, you know, I'm sitting in D.C. right now, and we have these conversations every single day. We, the people that are liberals, know who we are. We've had protesters outside our building last week. There's constant protest up and down the street, like they know the buildings we walk in and out of and decide see something like this, this type of violence happen against somebody who's out there just trying to have a conversation, just trying to have some sort of debate and argument to try and change hearts and minds. And now this. This shocking potential act of violence against him, or at least just shots fired at his event, is all that we're seeing confirmed from an outlet right now, is absolutely heartbreaking and of course, has absolutely no place in our political conversation, but appears to be what has happened at an event in Utah with Charlie Kirk.

[Rob Carson]

Luke, I know the left hates this. I want to pray for Charlie Kirk.

[Luke Ball]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson]

Please, please, God, let him be okay. He has led so many young people with truth and a powerful message for good, a godly message to change a generation, to make them recognize their potential in life and make them recognize the misgivings of these evil people on our planet who have decided to try to take our world the leftward lurch that had left so many dead in the last century. And now they have tried to attack our speech. They have tried to attack our institutions. They have tried to attack our truth. Truth tellers, please let Charlie Kirk be okay. I gotta tell you, I'm just. I'm done, Luke. I'm done. I'm done with this nonsense. We have seen this. This growing, increasingly violent rhetoric, this leftist nonsense, and to now, over the last decade, we have endured it. We have endured it. We've endured it. We resulted in the attempted assassination of our. Of our president. The. The attempted censorship of every conservative viewpoint in America since Donald Trump was elected. They have burned Tesla dealerships. They have come out in mass and they have. They have shouted people down. They have. They have protested against Israel on campus and terrified Jewish students. I'm going to tell you right now, Luke, I am done with this. I am done with it. I have no more tolerance for it. They don't want to converse. They only want to damage. They only want to damage and burn and wreck. They burned our country in the summer of 2020, and they are. Every week, there's a new demonstration. Demonstration, a new violent crowd. You know, whether they're confronting ICE and calling ICE agents the Gestapo, for God's sake. And now we know that there's 1000% increase in attacks on ICE agents. I swear to God in heaven, Luke, I'm done with it. We have to be done with this. This has to be a turning point. We saw the murder of a young woman on a. On a subway in Charlotte, North Carolina. The left taking their typical, you know, attack on it, ignoring the. What the left has done to work, particularly people of color into a lather and divide us in so many ways. We've seen these transgendered kids who've been hyped up on meds and told that they can be something they can't. And when they find out they can't, they're so out of their mind by this point. They just want to end themselves and take other people with them. This has been madness and forever. Luke, you're younger than I. You. You know, you've seen this as you were going through your formative years. I've seen this as an adult with kids, and I'm just anger done with it.

[Luke Ball]

The anger and rage that has come out of the other side is oftentimes nothing more than pure evil. Like, what can you even say drives this type of behavior? One thing after another after another. These are not Republicans and conservatives, people who believe in God and anything good and holy that are out there going and doing this kind of thing and things. It's people who are nihilists, who are just completely devoid of any sort of morality, of revealed law or natural law. And we see this continuing pattern. And you're right, Rob. And you see somebody go out and do this, and then there's just a pattern. The pattern here with mass shooters or the people who are committing these atrocious acts is that they hate anything to do with God, the Bible, conservatives, Republicans, anything that we stand for. Senator Mike Lee saying that he's tracking the situation to pray for Charlie Kirk. It looks like Michael Knowles has also put out something. There absolutely were shots fired, it appears, out there in Utah at this event. And Daily Caller is saying that there's been shots fired. So we don't have any details apart from the fact that there were some shots that fired out at this event. But everything that you were just framing, Rob, and, like, what's this supposed to do for the rest of us? Right. What they want us to do is shut up and go away. And they can't beat us at arguments, they can't beat us at rhetoric. They can't beat us. Us in commentary. So they come at us with bullets. That's what they're doing.

[Rob Carson]

Here's. Here's some audio from the rally. People streaming out of the rally running for their lives. For those who just tuned in, Charlie Kirk apparently has been shot at a rally in. In Utah. He is the voice of a generation. We're praying for God's sake. We're praying for his safety. Apparently rumor is or the is saying that possibly shot in the neck. We can only, only pray at this point that he is. That he is going to survive this. Luke, can we take a break? Can you come back in a second, brother? We're all trying to digest this while I tell you I've just had enough. This isn't sadness. This is rage.

[Luke Ball]

No, I don't even know what to say, man.

[Rob Carson]

Like, I'm just. I'm effing done with it. I'm done with it. It. I'm done with it. I'm done with these people standing in the schoolhouse door saying, we can't move in and make people safe. We can't make the neighborhoods of color safe. The Democrat Party has to keep people uneducated, unhappy, worked up into a lather, divided on every way, shape and form. I'm bloody done with it. We're going to take a break. While we're breaking here, everyone listening, pray for Charlie Kirk. Please do that. We'll take a break. More with Luke Ball on the other side of the break. This is the Rob Carson Show. I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the Whirlwind and you will pay the price. And you will pay the price. Turn the precinct to the grid.

[Luke Ball]

Will you condemn the violence? Will she not condemn it? So I guess, I guess no condemnation.

[Rob Carson]

I'm advocating for violence. Those are some highlights from a decade of violence by the left in this country. When Donald Trump was inaugurated on his Inauguration Day in 2016, they burned cars, they burned dumpsters, they wrecked businesses. In 2020, they burned our country down. And no Democrats said a damned thing about it. They tried to kill our president and it put him in jail. They burned Tesla dealerships. I can go on and on. I'm so bloody done with it. You've messed with the best armed, intellectually and physically people in the world, and we've had enough. I'm not saying we're violent, but if you bring that to my. If you get in my face, you are going to get so much back, you're going to get 10 times what you give to us. And it's time for us to unite against this nonsense, protect one another, and shout down these people who are doing this to our country. It has been a plan, and today it looks like it has resulted in Charlie Kirk being shot. We're waiting on details of it. Luke Ball, Newsmax contributor, is on the Newsmax hotline. He's the guy who brought the story, story to me today. Did you learn anything during the break, Luke? Yeah, Rob.

[Luke Ball]

I'm seeing a really rough video on social media. There's. There's no way that he was not shot in some form.

[Aaron Siri]

It's.

[Luke Ball]

It looks pretty bad, man. All we can do is pray. We're getting reports, shots fired. Local outlets are confirming that the video appears to show him getting shot somewhere in the neck area. I would not recommend going out and trying to, you know, do research or whatever at this time. There's going to be a lot of social media stuff going around out there. Only. Only to say that it looks like the reports are accurate from all appearances. So all that we can do is pray for that. You know what even talk about at a time like this, you, you go through the stages. Like you're, you're, like, that can't be right. Yeah. Then you're angry, then you're sad. It's just like this is a whole cycle of things because, like, we're all in this business, man. Right. Like we're all, we're all in the same area. We're talking on the radio, we're talking about politics. We make jokes. We try to see the world and politics and government through a lens, and yet there's people out there who would rather go and try and commit murder than have an intelligent conversation and debate about politics. And we've seen people too far off and on the left call for violence against Republicans. And politicians not condemn violence against President Trump, say that they wish the president had been shot in a more substantial way. The disgusting rhetoric that comes out of that side is not on a policy level. It's oftentimes on a very violent level.

[Rob Carson]

And it's meant to enrage. It's meant to enrage those who are unhinged. It happened. They, for instance, the two attempted assassinations of Donald Trump, those two individuals were on the federal radar. They were on the radar. They were allowed to get in the most prone position, the same as Lee Harvey Oswald. This is not Conspiracy. This is fact. You've got people acting out Steve Scalise shot by a Bernie Sanders supporter on a field. We have the attempted assassination of Brett Kavanaugh, among other things. This has gone on and on and on and on and on. People, literally people vandalizing Tesla's people who. They don't even know their political ideology, but suddenly, suddenly, Elon Musk is a Nazi. The left has been brainwashed, brainwashed to march. They have been brainwashed to be given marching orders. Now it's Donald Trump is bringing the Military to Washington, D.C. thousands of people bought and paid for, brainwashed sheep out in mass to protest Donald TRUMP Making Washington, D.C. one of the most safe places in the world. This is about the left shutting us down and keeping people ignorant, uneducated, angry, needy. That's what this is about. And by God, if this has resulted in the shooting of Charlie Kirk, this is. And I mentioned yesterday, this murder of this young woman in Charlotte is a nuclear explosion. For the left and for the media, it is a nuclear explosion. Well, guess what? An even bigger nuclear explosion may have happened today. Go ahead, Luke.

[Luke Ball]

The pattern here, man. The largest, most influential voices in our party, President Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk. The violence that is even just threatened against those who are willing to go and speak out and try to have a national conversation is disgusting. And a lot of times people will make the argument. All people are just, you know, keyboard warriors or they're saying things behind their computer screens. They don't really mean them. It's just a time of rage. Well, we've seen action here. We know it's not some Republican conservative that's gone out there and done this to Charlie Kirk. This is obvious. Some situation where they were trying to shut down a conversation, a voice and narrative that was just trying to have a debate and have some sort of a conversation. You know, again, I said it before, but I just kind of feel numb. Like, what do you even say right now? But that this Charlie Kirk has brought out.

[Rob Carson]

Charlie Kirk has brought crowds of 10,000 people to universities that were otherwise completely dominated by leftist thought. And he brings them together in joy and he debates people, and he never loses a debate because the facts are on his side. He's gone over to, you know, to England, to Cambridge or wherever and debated the best minds and wiped the floor with them. He is a generational leader. He is an epic generation. Luke, can you hold on to the next break? Yeah, yeah, we've only got one more break. We've only got one more break. We'll do Another couple minutes with you on the other side of the break, if you can hold. The news is Charlie Kirk has apparently been shot apparently in the neck. Prayer from the bottom of your hearts and souls for this young man. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Oh my God, I just saw the video. Charlie Kirk speaking and then the gunshot and him holding his neck and falling back. That's the news. Charlie Kirk has been shot in an event. Luke Ball broke the story just a little while ago. Luke, what have you heard? I heard there is a white, an older white gentleman being held down on the ground as the shooter. What have you heard?

[Luke Ball]

Haven't heard anything along those lines, but I will take a look at it from Michael Sharbone.

[Rob Carson]

Michael Charbone sent me that, but go ahead. I'm sorry.

[Luke Ball]

Yeah, every major outlet seems to have confirmed it at this point. And it's, it's going to be a rough situation, it looks like there he's up on Fox on it right now. They're reporting it. So, you know, let's just pray for him real quick. And heavenly Father, we just pray for Charlie Kirk and all of those who are there at this Utah event. God, we don't know the full situation, but we just pray for him and his circumstance. And God, I pray that you'll work a miracle here and allow him to pull through and come back even stronger than ever. And God, I just pray that you will help the people who are there and help us as we try to, to pull together and try to understand all of these things over the next couple of days. In Jesus name, Amen.

[Rob Carson]

Luke, I appreciate you, brother. I'm in, I'm in Washington, D.C. as well. And we'll get you over here in the studio and I want to work with you because today, yesterday, this week, we've reached a turning point here. We've had enough. America have had, we've had enough. This is the moment. This is the end to the end. This is the opposite reaction to the reaction of evil that's taken over our country and the world. And this is time for evil to get its ass handed to it. Luke Ball, brother, thank you for being here today, man. We'll talk, we'll talk again soon. Follow Luke on Twitter at Luke T. Ball.

[Luke Ball]

All right, thank you, man. We'll be in prayer for Charles.

[Rob Carson]

I told you this. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. The, the action has been evil destroying us, dividing us. And the reaction was the, the election of Donald Trump. We went through tribulation. And now we are going to get to enlightenment. And this is the final straw. And I'm saying that we react defensively from here on out. You do not be ashamed of your conservatism. You do not be ashamed to call out the left on this nonsense since so digest this. Pray for Charlie Kirk, pray for peace. And this is a gigantic moment. I told you November 5th we would not be able to recognize the profundity. The left is in its death throes and they're vicious and dangerous. God bless you, America, as founded Donald Trump, Charlie Kirk. And until tomorrow, I'll just leave it at God bless you. Talk to you tomorrow.