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Rob Carson
Hold it. Now. You are about to hear the most interesting, informative, thought provoking and funny show in America on air and on the World Wide Web. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is the Rob Carson show, our number three today. It's been a pretty darn busy day today, this Monday, this hour, we are going to talk to Brigitte Gabriel about this Middle Eastern peace deal and the release of hostages and all that. I've been corresponding with her via text the last few days and she's a spitfire. So all I need to do is really just say, here's, here's Brigitte Gabriel. And she'll just talk for like 10 minutes and she, everything she says is ridiculously awesome and accurate and amazing. And I can't wait, I can't wait to hear what she has to say about this because she's going to give you a take that nobody else has. An amazing woman. And she's always a remarkable guest on the show and we're honored to have her on because I know everybody wants her on today. So there you go. So we got that coming up. And then, of course, we've got a lot of things to talk about. I was just printing off a piece in the Wall Street Journal about guys leaving their jobs to prospect for gold because gold is 40, $100 an ounce. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Is Donald Trump today at the Knesset, promises from many other American presidents, you know, that they kept promising. I never understood it until I got there. They, there was a lot of pressure put on these presidents. It was put on me, too, but I didn't yield to the pressure. But every president for decades said we're going to do it. The difference is I kept my promise and officially recognized the capital of Israel and moved the American embassy to Jerusalem. And look what's happening. Look what's happening now. They had so many posers as president who said they wanted to move the, the embassy to Jerusalem and, and announce it as the recognized capital. But it took Donald Trump and all the while the Democrat Party screaming that he was Hitler. Honestly, you guys just, I mean, you are awful, awful, awful. I could say worse things. But you know, the FCC prevents me from saying that the Democrat Party is such a, on a death spiral to hell. And you've been wrong about everything. The media has been wrong about everything. And here we are today and we've got the hostages have been returned, 20 people starved, raped, abused for 700, 138 days. Joe Biden, you didn't even know their names when Joe Biden was president because he could have given a rat's behind about it because he had no idea what the hell he was doing. No idea what the hell he was doing. He did nothing to end the conflict at all. He only started wars. Honestly. Look what you did. Look what you did. Look what you fell for. It is, it is remarkable. And we'll see what happens. I'm hoping that Hamas messes around with us. I hope that Hamas does. And I just gives Israel permission to go in and wipe them out. Complet. Just wipe them out completely. It is ridiculous. I don't have to play what the funniest line of the day. You're just gonna. And this is apropos nothing. It's just John Kennedy, Senator John Kennedy, who I hope to have on the show here soon. And what I want to do is get him in the studio or maybe even get him into like a kitchen and cook with him and then talk politics and shoot the bleep with him and all of that because he's, he's all right. But here he is talking about. Listen to this. This is one of the best lines you're gonna want to use. This. This is him talking about aoc. I think that the congresswoman is single handedly trying to put an end to dumb blonde jokes. And our attitude is, you've heard me say before, our, our secret plan is Operation Let Her Speak. That's Operation Let Her Speak with regard to aoc. And she is systematically getting rid of, of, of dumb blonde jokes because honestly, she's bringing the D. Burnett. So I thought that was, I thought that was pretty excellent there. John Kennedy is, is absolutely brilliant. So it's, it's. The left, of course, has been talking about how if Donald Trump became the president, and as it became more apparent Donald Trump was going to become the president, they started using the word retribution because they knew that the left was committing acts and weaponizing the DOJ on Donald Trump in real time. They knew that the raid on Mar A Lago was unprecedented and uncalled for. They knew that Donald Trump was not guilty of 34 felony counts. Anyone with any sort of journalistic curiosity would have known all of this was Bullcrap. And when 91 charges came up against Donald Trump after he announced he was running for president, any journalist worth their salt would have absolutely known it was political. Duh. Don't act like you don't know. It's like Jake Tapper saying, I had no idea Joe Biden had dementia. I had no idea. I mean, honestly. Shut up. We're not. This Stupid. This is why nobody watches you anymore, you idiots. But, but there's going to be hell to pay because not only should these people be held accountable for weaponizing the doj, they should also be. They should be indicted, tried and imprisoned or disbarred for the, the, the things that they've done in their own lives. Like Letitia James committing voter fraud. This is m talking about Mike Davis from Article 3 Project. I had the opportunity to meet him a couple of weeks ago. It's pretty damn cool guy. Really, really cool dude. And here he is talking about the hell that is coming. You can call a retribution whatever you want, but it's, it's actually just. It's accountability. Yeah. Those indictments we just saw for Comey and Tish James are the appetizer indictments. And the big one, the main course is going to be the conspiracy against rights. I can't wait to order. I want to order right now. Just. I'll have the special if you would please. The Brennan goes to jail for life special place. Can you get that for me with the side of, of. Of Chris Wray goes to prison as well. Just on the side. And a sprinkle of Jim Comey goes to prison under 18 USC section 241. I've publicly called for this for the last three plus years since the Mar a Lago raid. Remember this with the Russian collusion hoax. The Russian collusion hoax. People need to go to jail for that. The Democrats made this up to help Hillary Clinton's campaign. She needs to go to jail too. I'll have a big side of Hillary Clinton. That sounded weird. I don't know if I want that to cover up her corruption and to take out presidential candidate Donald Trump. They failed. President Trump went into office and so they tried to destroy him while he was in office and they tried to destroy him with the lawfare because he declassified crime retribution. I don't even care for fire hurricane before he left office the first time. And those people who did this raid, like Jay Bratt and others, they did this to cover up their own corruption. This is the biggest scandal in American history. They politicized and weaponized intel agencies and law enforcement to take out their political enemy. That this is third world stuff. And I would say to these lawfare Democrats, justice is definitely coming. Oh, I love that. But here's cnn of course trying to morally equivocate and say that Tish James committing mortgage fraud. Everybody does that.
Brigitte Gabriel
Aside for the. For a second what Tish James. And again, we're still getting the details. But if it's related to this mortgage issue, I mean, this is something that.
Rob Carson
Everyone in America or many people really. Does everybody say you're married to your dad so you can get a deal on a mortgage. Is that really. Does that happen a lot? Did people buy investment properties, lie about it, say that they actually live there so they can. They can make favorable mortgage rates? Really? Does everybody do that?
Brigitte Gabriel
At least if you're lucky enough to.
Rob Carson
Be able to buy a house in.
Brigitte Gabriel
America, you deal with this.
Rob Carson
Right?
Brigitte Gabriel
The federal government doesn't go after all of these people for doing this.
Rob Carson
Yeah, but you did that to Donald Trump and you ended up finding him $451 million. This is Brand new from Jim Gossett as the prezzi about Tish. Where Tush is going to jail. Looks like Tish may go to jail. Fingers crossed. Will George so post her bail? He might go too. Trish, you know your many crimes will catch up with you. Mortgage fraud, that's her crime. She could do substantial time. I hope so. Trish is gone. Gonna pay for saying things untrue. Her indictment is a sign. Do the right thing and resign. Playing fast and loose for Trish is nothing new. I hope they all go to jail. We waited for no, 9 years, 10 years for this, for people to pay for what they did. The abuses and usurpations. I told you, the federal government committed abuses and usurpations the founders could have never even dreamed of. We became the Soviet Union. We found out that Jack Smith literally surveilled Republican senators and Kristen Welper on NBC had had Lindsey Graham on, and she was making all sorts of excuses. She even said the FBI didn't surveil. All they did was they just looked at some phone records or something.
Brigitte Gabriel
And Letitia James have said that they are. Said that they are innocent of these crimes that they've been accused of. But, Senator, very quickly, they'll have a.
Rob Carson
Chance to prove it. You know, this Jack Weed did nothing at all to defend or even any curiosity that Donald Trump was innocent while he was going through all this bull crap.
Brigitte Gabriel
To the appearance, though, Senator, the fact that President Trump publicly called for his attorney general to indict people, do you think that crosses a line because they.
Rob Carson
Committed crimes, you moron.
Brigitte Gabriel
Between the Justice Department being independent from the executive branch.
Rob Carson
Well, what about. What about the Justice Department working in the behest of Joe Biden to go after Donald Trump 91 counts after he decided to run for president? Kristen Welper. I think Justice Department in The hands of Biden crossed every line there is to cross. I think within three days of announcing he was going to run for president in 2024. He did that in 2020.
Brigitte Gabriel
What about Trump?
Rob Carson
What about, what about. Yeah, no, I think the grand jury is going to take care of this. But you didn't care any about this. You didn't care that Letitia James made up charges that no one's ever faced.
Brigitte Gabriel
But Senator Biden to be indicted.
Rob Carson
He had 90 Biden. Biden reg. That they didn't do it before the election. Jack Smith surveilled my phone records that Nate other senators. Listen, listen to Kristen Welper when she, when he, she tries to defend them for surveilling senators, for using the FBI to surveil senators phone. Listen to this. Stalinist Jack Smith introduced his brief against Trump October 24th before the 2024 election violating every protocol just to politicize the election. So this may bother you that people are being held accountable. It doesn't bother me one damn bit.
Brigitte Gabriel
You're referencing the fact that the FBI obtained what has been referred to as basic information. Date, time, length of calls. Senator, we covered a lot of ground.
Rob Carson
The election. Oh my God, woman, you have killed journalism. No, you haven't. No, no. You just killed journalism for the networks and the left because you have just sold your souls. Sold them. And there's no buying them back. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Quitted now. Little Rage against the Machine for you. I did a lot of listening to music over the weekend. It was, it was very pleasant. It was very pleasant. I did some driving in buck. Got out into the countryside, drove up a mountain, it's a Sugarloaf mountain north of, of Washington D.C. and I went to Sugarloaf Vineyard with a friend and it was the first time I'd been to the Vineyard as a non drinker, but it was still pretty cool to go there. I really enjoyed being here. I, I'm enjoying my time here on the, on the East Coast. Those of you who, who've been listening to this show for a while, I know it's. You got to be. I'm sure that if you, you know, you've heard the show, you know that this is pretty crazy how this has all happened. But I do believe there's a reason why I'm here. And you're here with me too, by the way. You are here with me. So right now what we're doing is we're experiencing the dying throes of the Democrat party and the radical left in our country. And they're doing everything to defend the defenseless, behave like petulant children, cause violence. And they are basically in the final battles of the left's civil war that they've been waging against us that has left billions of dollars in damage, dozens of people dead, thousands of police officer injuries. And now to add insult to injury, they're acting like Antifa doesn't exist. Even though Antifa has been the organization that everybody knows has committed these acts. You know, honestly, it's so ridiculous to claim otherwise. It's an indignity. They're serving up an indignity. This is what the left does because they are just such gian flaming a holes. This is Eric Schmidt talking about attacks on ice and the violent rhetoric of the Democrat Party. What's happening with the assault on ice officers is truly shocking. Deportations are nothing new. Bill Clinton deported 12 million people. 12 million people. You didn't see this. The radicalization that's happened on the left that plays out with political violence is real. And by the way, let me also point out that if we had a scenario where John Thune was on the Supreme Court steps saying, you've reaped a whirlwind Supreme Court justices and then a right wing assassin tried to kill Ruth Bader Ginsburg and then a Republican appointed judge only gave that person eight years, there would be riots on the streets, cities would be burning right now. Yeah, well, the left has burned cities. And you know, daddy came home on November 5th and daddy's gonna kick some arse. This is a montage of the media the last couple years defending Antifa. And I'm gonna juxtapose it with what they're saying now about antifa. Listen, I argue to you tonight, all punches are not equal morally in the eyes of the law. That's Chris Cuomo. He's working for a different network, but he's still an idiot. Yes, but in the eyes of good and evil, here's the argument. They are strictly principled anti fascists.
Brigitte Gabriel
And what they see in the Trump administration and what they see happening in.
Rob Carson
This country, principled antifascists who burn people and burn cities. And you know that they see, they see the neo fascism that we see.
Brigitte Gabriel
And they've taken a principle stand to.
Rob Carson
Stand against white supremacists and white nationalists wherever they may show up. It says it right in the name antifa. Antifa fascism, which is what they were there fighting. Listen, there's sounds like they're acknowledging Antifa, you know, no organization is perfect. There was some violence.
Brigitte Gabriel
I think that a lot of people.
Rob Carson
Recognize that when pushed, self defense is a legitimate response to white supremacist and neo Nazi violence. The problem is to equate the violence in reaction against bigotry with the bigotry itself is to misunderstand the fact that when you go to cancer treatment, the radiation is tough treatment, but it is meant to remove the cancer.
Brigitte Gabriel
There's a group of anti fascists called the Black bloc which do tend to get violent.
Rob Carson
Their idea is, look, nonviolence hasn't worked.
Brigitte Gabriel
And we are going to try to stop this. But they wouldn't have been there, they wouldn't have been anywhere near there had it not been for the fact that white supremacists, neo Nazis were all made.
Rob Carson
Up, all bull crap. And now, and now right now, as Donald Trump is going after antifa, suddenly antifa doesn't exist. There's no antifa. This is an entirely imaginary organization. There is not an antifa. Like I don't even know what antifa is. There is no group.
Brigitte Gabriel
It's not even like far right group, the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers. Compared to right wing extremists, Antifa linked violence is rare and limited.
Rob Carson
It isn't an organization. It is a, it is a, in many ways mythology.
Brigitte Gabriel
It's not like the Proud Boys or the Oath Keepers, you know, sort of defined terrorist organizations with leadership that led, that, you know, leads violence. It's not a highly organized movement. It's a moniker. It's, it's, it's, it's not a unified.
Rob Carson
Group like the Proud Boys are.
Brigitte Gabriel
Things like Antifa are things that are thought up.
Rob Carson
It's all in this guy guise of going after Antifa, which is nothing. There's no organization. Oh my God, you people. I swear to God, every month it's something new that they will defend the, the indefensible. They will defend the indefensible burning Tesla dealerships because suddenly out of nowhere, Elon Musk is a Nazi. You people will, will take your marching orders for anything, absolutely anything. You people on the left, you took your marching orders, you said that, that it for girls to want to become boys and go on puberty blockers and get hysterectomies and have healthy breast tissue removed and make a phallus, a fake phallus out of a sheath of skin from their arm, then fasten it between their legs like an ear waiting to be transplanted. My God, what's wrong with you people? What in the hell is wrong with you? I'll tell you what's wrong with you. It's the same mania that swept across Germany in the 1930s, the same mania that swept across Russia in the 1920s and 30s. The same mania that happened in Mao's China. This is what you fell for. My God, I hope you get a reality check because history is going to leave you behind. 80% of us are going in the right direction in history. 20% of you are going to be left behind. Homeboys, hillbillies and Hebrews. I said this before the election. It's still happening. And the left is spiraling into hell. Coming up, the one, the only, Brigitte Gabriel talking about the peace deal between Israel and Hamas and the rest of the Middle East. Don't go anywhere. It's going to get real good. Hey guys, it's Carson. You know, when I was a kid and I would ride in a car, I would get so car sick and so nauseous my parents would have to carry me into the house. Recently I went on a sailboat in Mexico and I got so motion sick, I was sick all day. Then I found Relief Band. If you get nauseous, you absolutely must get Relief band. 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We had an issue with the landline phone number. So Brian, if you're listening, Sandy has the number. I don't. Oh no. She says call the cell phone. Brian, call her cell phone. There you go. She, she banned me from calling her. I kept calling her at night. Hey, hey, Brigitte. I'm just kind of chilling this morning. Kidding. Actually, she says that we can, we can call the cell phone. So Brian, if you would do that, if you would, it's whatever number Sandy gave you. Now, I just want a little inside baseball, little inside baseball here on the Rob Carson show because, you know, we're just, we're just people doing a show. You know, we're just people doing a show here, but we're going to get Brigitte Gabriel on the, on the cell phone. This is Donald Trump. Today, after two harrowing years in darkness and captivity, 20 courageous hostages are returning to the glorious embrace of their families. And it is glorious. 28 more precious loved ones are coming home at last to rest in this sacred soil for all of time. And after so many years of unceasing war and endless danger, today the skies are calm, the guns are silent, the sirens are still, and the sun rises on a holy land that is finally at peace. A land and a region that will live, God willing, in peace for all eternity. It would be nice, wouldn't it? After two harrowing years, it would be nice. There you go. We will see. Brian, I just texted you, by the way, number two, call Brigitte. We'll get Brigitte. Here is Benjamin Netanyahu today. No American president has ever done more for Israel. And as I said in Washington, it ain't even close. It's really not a match. Mr. President, today we welcome you here to thank you for your pivotal leadership in putting forward a proposal that got the backing of almost the entire world. A proposal. A proposal that brings all our hostages home. Yep, there you go. Like I said, you know, my, my biggest issue with this is the release of criminal members of Hamas who committed atrocities and violence. But what I'm hoping, and maybe I'm hoping against hope, is that Hamas fafos and Donald Trump and Benjamin Netanyahu go in and finish the job. Apparently, There are like 7,000 Hamas members who are trying do some sort of rally. Their, their pride and their arrogance and their fanaticism drives them and just looking for an excuse to wipe them out. Brigitte Gabriel. Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much for finding the time to talk to us. We got you on. How are you today?
Brigitte Gabriel
Doing great, my friend. What a wonderful day. Doing great. Glad to be with you.
Rob Carson
Brigitte, I'm going to tell you as a father, I saw some of the reuniting of the hostages with their parents, and I wept today. It was just so beautiful. And, you know, singularly, the release of the hostages is gigantic. Let's just start with that. Brigitte, I'd love your thoughts.
Brigitte Gabriel
Well, it's an amazing thing to watch, you know, we were all very pessimistic about the likelihood of these hostages coming back home alive. I mean, considering how Hamas operated, how deceitful they were, how brutal they were, they are. The majority of the hostages died. We know the hostages now that they are trying to find their remains. So it is a miracle that these 20 survived until now and they were able to be delivered home safely to their families. And like you said, as a parent, you know, you cannot help watch the images of the families being reunited and not be so moved emotionally to see this happen. And look what's happening right now is amazing. It's unprecedented. And what makes this so different, Rob, than any other time they signed the peace treaty or khudna between Hamas or the Palestinians and Israel, is that this time President Trump brought the Arabic world together as well as world leaders. So the Arab street is watching their leaders that they respect, their royal kings, their princes, their elected presidents whom they respect. They're watching them there standing shoulder to shoulder with President Trump, with world leaders, saying, okay, we are committed to bringing, bringing peace to the Middle east, basically meaning, okay, Israel is here to stay. We're not going to get rid of Israel, but we're going to work on peace for the Palestinians. And that says a lot. And I think this is what makes this very different.
Rob Carson
The only issue that I have, Brigitte and I, and I remember texting you last week, and we were just kind of finding details, and I could tell you were a little irritated because I was too. And then I got to kind of see the puzzle pieces coming together and what Donald Trump did to get us here to this moment. But it's. I know that Hamas is right now not supported by the Arab world, not supported by Iran, because Donald Trump strategically took Iran out of the equation. However, these SOBs in their arrogance and fanaticism are still calling. You know, they're still wanting to fight. And then all. Another thing that I have a problem with is the release of some of their prisoners. So what now happens? Because I kind of hope that Hamas screws around and Benjamin Netanyahu and with Donald Trump's assistant goes in and wipes him out. But what are you hoping for? And what rubs you the wrong way about parts of this deal?
Brigitte Gabriel
What rubbing me the wrong way is that Hamas was not totally destroyed.
Rob Carson
Yeah.
Brigitte Gabriel
What rubbed me the wrong way is the fact that we put shackles around Israel's ankles for two years. Israel could have finished the job in three months. But because we had the Democrats in control, but because we had Biden in control, they were shackles around Israel's ankle because Israel couldn't do anything right as far as America was concerned at that time under Democrats, they needed to be more careful. They needed to stop the genocide. They needed to stop, you know, killing civilians, et cetera, et cetera, buying into the talking points of Hamas, which basically Hamas controlled the Ministry of Health, Hamas controlled the Ministry of Information, et cetera. And so that dragged this war so long until now. President Trump came and said, okay, I want to see peace happen in the Middle East. Now, does this mean Hamas is going to all of a sudden start loving Israel?
Rob Carson
No.
Brigitte Gabriel
Does that mean that the Palestinians themselves, these people who are happy now that the war ended, you see them in Gaza happy that the war ended, they despise Israel. They are just happy they're behind. Live to see another day. And so the hatred is still there. The hatred is not gone. They're happy that they're not living under the bombs anymore because they are tired of two years Israel mopping the floor with them. And also they knew there were such fear that Israel could basically demolish Gaza totally and turn it into a parking lot lot if Hamas did not come to the negotiating table. So this is what the Palestinians were afraid of. So right now they are rejoicing because the war ended, not because they want to end the war. Long time with Israel. This is basically a pause button until they can get their act together and figure out what's going on. The prisoners being released, you know, not to interrupt you, but just a quick thought about the prison. Israel is releasing the worst of the worst of the worst. These are the worst prisoners Israel has ever captured. And so the fact that they are being released and they are welcomed as heroes into their families, they are just going to reorganize, re establish, recommit terrorist attacks. That may not be an operation like October 7th, but, you know, this is. We're getting a peace break basically for the next 10, maybe 20 years.
Rob Carson
All right, well, let's take a break and come back. Can you hold on for the next break? Because I want to know what you think the future is. And I think I have an idea and I have my fingers crossed that it works in this direction. Can you do that? Brigitte Gabriel.
Brigitte Gabriel
Sure.
Rob Carson
Lovely. More with Brigitte Gabriel on the Rob Carson show after this break. Don't go anywhere. I love Israel. I'm with you all the way. You will be bigger, better, stronger, and more loving than ever before. Thank you very much. God bless you. God bless the United States of America and God bless the Middle East. Thank you, everybody. Wow, that's amazing. Just those words are historic from an American president. God bless the Middle East. Right now we have seven Arab states who have committed themselves to peace and a peace deal between Hamas and Israel. Brigitte Gabriel on the Newsmax hotline. I knew that Donald Trump was going to be historic. And I said when he was elected that the profundity of his election is going to resonate around the world. And I think I told you months ago, I felt that there would be peace in the Middle East. And I also, I'm still hopeful that the Ayatollah will fall in Iran and the people of Persia would be free. Free. I was right on at least one of those things. What are your thoughts?
Brigitte Gabriel
Yes, you were. And I can tell you we are now working on Lebanon as well, at Lebanon to have peace treaty with Israel. So we're working on in that direction as well. I'm involved with that. And so there's a lot of things happening in the Middle East. You know, people follow a strong horse, Rob, and America needed a strong horse. The world needs a strong horse to lead everybody. Everybody in the world looks up to America. They have always looked up for America, for leadership. America is the superpower of the world. And America has led, I mean, From World War II, remember, America led the world to freedom. And so the world looks up to America. And America has had a void. It was weak under Clinton. And then when we were attacked under George Bush, you know, we wanted to build the Middle East. We undercalculated the Middle East. President Bush ushered in if our dinner to the White House. They were working on appeasing people. It did not work. And of course, then we had Obama, who started working with the Muslim Brotherhood. The Middle east, the radical Islamists felt empowered and they, you know, especially with Obama empowering Iran, working with Iran, cozying up to Iran, sending money to Iran. And then of course, you know, President Trump was the pause in 2016, but then came Biden. So what? While President Trump, while we were about to see the fruit of all the sanctions he put on Iran, Biden came and unleashed the money again to Iran and let them breathe. And we saw what happened. So finally, now the world respects President Trump. The terrorists fear him, our enemies fear him. He is unpredictable. And Israel needed somebody like President Trump in office to be able to, to help defend Israel and to also be able to tell the Middle east, look, Israel is here to stay. She's not going anywhere. And you all need to line up and work with Israel. And that's exactly what you are seeing right now.
Rob Carson
Yes. And I'm going to tell you right now, Hamas has no trump card. They have nothing. They have no ability to get more weapons. Their stockpiles are gone, depleted. They have a ragtag group of Hamas members there. And there's an expression, you know, it is fafo, which is BLEEP around and find out. And I'm just hoping and praying that they, their arrogance, their hubris, their fanaticism causes them to break one of those parts of the 21 point peace deal and Netanyahu goes in and finishes them off. And I think that's going to happen. I really do, Brigitte. I think they're going to chop their own hands off. That's how insane these people are.
Brigitte Gabriel
The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I know track record of that.
Rob Carson
But they don't have hostages anymore, right?
Brigitte Gabriel
Exactly. And they don't have the support of the Arab world the way they did or Iran before, before we basically attacked Iran. The people, the Palestinians, the Hamas and Gaza always counted. Well, the Arabic street is going to be on our side. The Arabic leaders are going to be on our side. Well, right now they are watching on television all the Arabic leaders standing shoulder to shoulder with President Trump and behind him and working with him. Basically the Arabic world is saying, look, we want prosperity. We are enjoying what's happening in Dubai and the UAE and all that money and all that wealth. And they know they're running out of oil as well, Rob. So they know they need to establish something other than oil to be able to bring them business. And so they are protecting their own future. You know, they're not stupid. They see the writing on the wall. Oil is running out, out. So the, the Palestinians are not going to be able to rely on the Arabic world the way they relied on the Arabic world the last 50 years.
Rob Carson
They're just going to shrivel up and die. And if, if, and if they don't die on their own, then I hope Israel helps them get there. Before we go, Brigid, I know this is profoundly personal for you because you have watched, you know, numerous decades of this. You've been a victim of radical Islam in this war. What does today feel like for you?
Brigitte Gabriel
It's a beautiful day to see. It's hope. It's a beautiful day to see President Trump bringing all the Arab leaders together to basically figure out a solution to the Palestinian problem and to Gaza and hope that one day maybe Lebanon will come on board, Syria will come on board, the rest of Middle Eastern countries will come on board and sign a peace treaty with Israel. You know, you've got to start one step at a time. You know, you chip at a wall one chip at a time, and hopefully the wall will come down, this wall of hatred, and they'll be able to look, Israel's here to stay. We might as well get along and start building a future for our children.
Rob Carson
Well, Brigitte, and I do mean this, there was no one else who I wanted to speak to more about this than you because I know your connection to it, you're passionate about it and your expertise. So thank you for finding the time for us today.
Brigitte Gabriel
Thank you so much, my friend. Great to be with you.
Rob Carson
You are the best. God bless and take care. Let's take a break. This is the Rob Carson Show. This is kind of cool. I mentioned this earlier, a piece in the Wall Street Journal. I'm out of the office, but I'm digging for gold. Two weeks ago, Mike Hewlett struck gold. Sort of the California welder. Plenty of hobbies, including snowboarding, skiing, dirt biking. Gold prices reaching record highs. He's taking up a new one. Prospecting. Went hiking in the forest of the Mount Shasta area with a metal detector. Browsing over rocks and dirt. Began digging, picked up a metal buried in some gravel. Digging it up, found a chunk of gold the size of his pinky fingernail. I was jumping around like they see in cartoons and whatnot. It turns out it was worth $175. There you go. Across America, a modern day gold rush is underway. People on social media brandishing gold flecked pans of nuggets while showing off their equipment. That sounded kind of funny. Don't show your nuggets and equipment on the on the web. It'll get you in trouble. I speak from experience. Yeah. Over $4,100 an ounce. And there's an easy way to do it. Buy it while the price is where it is because it's going through the system ceiling you got. Birch Gold is a company that I have invested my money in. And if you buy gold, you get a free silver. That's right. For every $5,000 purchase from Birch Gold this month in advance for Veterans Day, they will send you a free patriotic silver round that commemorates the Gasden and American flags. I'm showing it to you on social media right now. That's one Troy ounce. Troy's going to be pissed that I have his coin, but it's Troy's ounce right here. And Gold's over $4100. Remember last week and I said it was 4000, 4100. So. Text my name, Rob to 989898. Rob to 989898 if you would, for Birch Gold, they will send you information, no obligation. A plus rating for the bbb. Tens of thousands of happy customers. And now a free silver round with qualifying purchases. Text my name, Rob to 989-898 if you would. I thought I'd play it. You are the greatest, greatest friend Israel has ever had in the White House. You got a friend in me. You got a friend in bb? Come my greatest ally Israel's hand. We'll work together good times and bad. That's why our enemies are so darn sad. Cause you got a friend in me. Peace, baby. You've got a friend in me. Bb that was great. You want to do another verse? By all means, Mr. President, go ahead. You got a friend in me. Only on this show. I got a friend in bb. We work together. That's what we do. There isn't anything I wouldn't do for you. Partners for life, you know that it's true. Cause you got a friend in me. Come on. You've got a friend in me. Big finish. That was fantastic. Bb, what song should we do next? You're my best friend. Thank you for being a friend. Why can't we be friends? The. The theme from Friends. I got friends in low places. You can go to patreon.com and that's patreon.com backslash Jim Gossett comedy. Give him $10 a month, he'll send you two parodies every single day. He's a brilliant, brilliant man. Brilliant, brilliant man. We. We collaborate on these songs and he's just amazing. Guys, have a glorious day. God bless Israel. Morning, Zoe. Got donuts.
Brigitte Gabriel
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Rob Carson
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Episode: Brigitte Gabriel Reveals What’s Really Happening in the Middle East
Date: October 13, 2025
In this episode, Rob Carson welcomes author and Middle East expert Brigitte Gabriel to dissect the historic peace deal between Israel and Hamas, discuss the return of hostages, and analyze the shifting political and cultural alliances in the region. The conversation is robust, impassioned, and at times biting, blending news analysis with personal reflections and energetic banter. The episode navigates the recent developments in the Middle East, the pivotal role of U.S. leadership, and what the future may hold for the region.
Timestamps: 24:05–26:22
"The majority of the hostages died. We know the hostages now that they are trying to find their remains. So it is a miracle that these 20 survived until now and they were able to be delivered home safely to their families." (24:34)
"This time President Trump brought the Arabic world together... The Arab street is watching their leaders that they respect... standing shoulder to shoulder with President Trump... meaning, okay, Israel is here to stay." (25:18)
Timestamps: 26:22–29:58
"What rubbed me the wrong way is that Hamas was not totally destroyed... we put shackles around Israel's ankles for two years. Israel could have finished the job in three months." (27:25)
"They are just going to reorganize, re establish, recommit terrorist attacks. That may not be an operation like October 7th, but, you know, this is. We're getting a peace break basically for the next 10, maybe 20 years." (29:38)
Timestamps: 30:08–34:02
"The hatred is still there. The hatred is not gone. They're happy that they're not living under the bombs anymore...This is basically a pause button until they can get their act together and figure out what's going on." (28:22)
"They are protecting their own future. They're not stupid. They see the writing on the wall. Oil is running out... so the Palestinians are not going to be able to rely on the Arabic world the way they relied on the Arabic world the last 50 years." (34:09)
Timestamps: 31:22–33:20
"People follow a strong horse, Rob, and America needed a strong horse. The world needs a strong horse to lead everybody. Everybody in the world looks up to America...America has had a void. It was weak under Clinton...then Obama...Finally, now the world respects President Trump. The terrorists fear him, our enemies fear him. He is unpredictable." (31:22, 32:30)
Timestamps: 35:30–36:09
"It's a beautiful day to see President Trump bringing all the Arab leaders together to basically figure out a solution to the Palestinian problem and to Gaza and hope that one day maybe Lebanon will come on board, Syria will come on board, the rest of Middle Eastern countries will come on board and sign a peace treaty with Israel."
"You chip at a wall one chip at a time, and hopefully the wall will come down, this wall of hatred, and they'll be able to look, Israel's here to stay. We might as well get along and start building a future for our children." (35:30)
"As a father, I saw some of the reuniting of the hostages with their parents, and I wept today. It was just so beautiful." (24:11)
"The world respects President Trump. The terrorists fear him, our enemies fear him. He is unpredictable...And that's exactly what you are seeing right now." (32:30)
"This is basically a pause button until they can get their act together and figure out what's going on." (28:54)
"The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I know track record of that." (34:02)
"It's a beautiful day to see. It's hope. It's a beautiful day to see President Trump bringing all the Arab leaders together..." (35:30)
Rob Carson's signature blend of biting humor, skepticism, and passionate political commentary runs throughout the episode. Brigitte Gabriel brings an informed, forceful, and hopeful tone, frequently delivering sharp assessments of both political errors and potential solutions. The dialogue is rapid-fire and unfiltered, with both participants not shying away from strong opinions or evocative language.
This highly charged episode focuses on the landmark Middle East peace deal brokered with considerable U.S. involvement. Brigitte Gabriel offers unique insights about the deal's meaning and fragility, the dangers of releasing dangerous prisoners, and the long-standing animosities that still threaten the future. Both Gabriel and Carson credit Donald Trump’s unpredictable leadership for a seismic shift in Arab-Israeli relations, while warning that the peace may be temporary if root causes aren't addressed. Ultimately, the episode is a blend of celebration and caution, closing on a hopeful note about the possibility of a more stable Middle East, one negotiation—one "chip"—at a time.