Bruises, Bombshells, and Bureaucratic Bandits

Summary

The Rob Carson Show

Episode: "Bruises, Bombshells, and Bureaucratic Bandits"

Date: May 27, 2026 | Host: Rob Carson (Newsmax Radio)
Special Guest: Fred Flights (Senior Fellow, American First Policy Institute; Author)

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Rob Carson Show features Rob’s signature mix of acerbic humor and sharp conservative commentary as he dives into a range of political topics: Virginia’s assault weapons ban standoff, media double standards regarding Trump’s and Biden’s health, mass pandemic fraud, U.S. and Iran military policy, and U.S. policy failures toward North Korea. Rob is joined by guest Fred Flights to discuss U.S. foreign policy missteps and his new book on North Korea. The episode also includes a satirical musical segment lampooning President Biden's cognitive ability.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Virginia’s Assault Weapons Ban Standoff

[01:20 – 06:00]

• Local Prosecutors Revolt:
  Rob opens with a spirited takedown of Virginia’s new assault weapons ban, noting that at least two county prosecutors (military veterans) refuse to enforce the law, deeming it unconstitutional.

  • “You cannot just make what was legal yesterday and guaranteed by the Constitution illegal today ... screw you, I won’t comply.” (Rob Carson, [02:57])

• Political Satire:
  Carson refers to VA Governor Abigail Spanberger as "Abigail Scamberglar" and accuses her of trying to disenfranchise Republicans, comparing her agenda to “running the state like San Francisco."

• Revolutionary Comparison:
  He invokes VA’s revolutionary past and Second Amendment rights as foundational to resistance.

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2. Media Double Standards: Trump vs. Biden Health Coverage

[06:10 – 15:20]

• Coverage of Trump’s Health:
  Rob mocks media focus on Trump’s bruised hand and frequent checkups, crediting Trump's “ever ready bunny” campaign energy.

  • “I couldn’t keep up with Donald Trump. There’s no way.” (Rob Carson, [06:33])
  • “The only thing I'm worried about is some jackass actually succeeds in trying to kill him.” (Rob Carson, [08:28])

• Biden’s Cognitive Decline:
  Carson accuses major outlets of covering up Biden’s mental health issues, playing a compilation of Biden’s public gaffes and slurred speeches.

  • “If you’re concerned about Joe Biden’s age, you probably don’t know Joe Biden. It’s not just making an issue of Biden’s age. It’s lying. It’s saying he’s senile, saying he’s demented, saying he’s out of it. Biden is actually in good shape.” (CNN Reporter, [09:47])
  • “Look, if we’re not stupid…” (Rob Carson, [10:43])
  • “Porky Pig had a stutter that belittles it.” (Rob Carson, [11:41])

• Satirical Music Interlude:
  Rob features Jim Gossett’s parody about Biden’s cognitive struggles, “If He Only Had a Brain,” further underscoring the episode’s comedic tone.

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3. COVID Pandemic Fraud and American Systemic Vulnerabilities

[16:35 – 21:54]

• Massive Fraud Exposed:
  Rob brings in a clip from Keith Sutherling (Department of Labor) highlighting that over $135 billion in pandemic aid was stolen.

  • “Never let a good crisis go to waste.” (Rob Carson, [16:49])
  • “135,000 million dollars of our tax money.” (Rob Carson, [17:04])

• System Built on ‘Honor’:
  The show asserts that welfare and government benefits are based on trust — “the honor system.” Carson suggests this is easily exploited by the “dishonorable.”

  • "You can't have a system based on honor when one of the political parties is completely dishonorable." (Rob Carson, [19:44])

  • "I believe, based on what I've seen and what I've heard, is that we could balance the federal budget if the only dollars that went out of the treasury went to individuals who are properly, lawfully, correctly eligible." (Guest/Analyst, [20:20])

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4. U.S. Military Policy & Iran — Interview with Fred Flights

[21:54 – 37:32]

• Historical Failings:
  Fred Flights discusses bipartisan failures with Iran and North Korea, invoking his background in intelligence and arms control.

  • “North Korea now has 50 nuclear bombs ... that's what Trump wants to avoid with Iran.” (Fred Flights, [23:15])

• Debate Over Iran Policy:
  Carson and Flights spar over the best approach to Iran. Rob supports more aggressive action (“wipe out the irgc”), while Flights urges a more restrained, pragmatic strategy.

  • “Trump achieved what he wanted to do. It's an imperfect solution ... Eventually, I believe the people of Iran will take over the country. But Jack wants to keep the war going. He wants to expand it. I don’t agree.” (Fred Flights, [27:07])

  • “We need a mowing-the-grass strategy ... but in the meantime, this war has to end. The American people don’t want this continuing one day further.” (Fred Flights, [27:57])

  • “I'm hoping ... for some sort of almost like a millennial peace that the Middle East hasn't seen in a while. And if anything, it would be at least a united Middle East against Iran and its terror proxies...” (Rob Carson, [33:55])

• Media Manipulation & Iranian Negotiations:
  Flights and Carson ridicule Iranian and media spin on diplomatic progress, especially accusations that Iran’s claims are often reported uncritically.

  • “They're shameless liars. None of that is true, but CNN reported it as if it is.” (Fred Flights, [31:26])
  • "I just have a feeling we're gonna have to end up dropping some bombs on them." (Rob Carson, [32:01])

• Trump’s Abraham Accord Expansion:
  Flights praises Trump's initiative to form a regional alliance with Arab states against Iran.

  • “It was a brilliant move and it recognizes the reality that Arab states now realize that Iran is a dedicated enemy..." (Fred Flights, [33:28])

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5. North Korea & The Deep State — Flights' Book

[34:38 – 37:32]

• Policy Repetition & Mistakes:
  Fred Flights explains his motivation for his new book: decades of repeating the same policy mistakes toward North Korea and Iran, with both political parties failing to address the threat seriously.

  • “Both nuclear programs soared ... my book covers from Eisenhower through the end of the Biden administration.” (Fred Flights, [34:38])

• Trump’s Successes:
  Flights credits Trump as the most successful president in dealing with North Korea, averting potential war in 2017-18.

  • “Of all the presidents who dealt with North Korea, Trump, I think was the most successful.” (Fred Flights, [36:15])
  • “It was the velvet glove covering the iron fist. That’s what Donald Trump did.” (Rob Carson, [37:02])

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6. California, Diversity, and Social Policy Satire

[37:56 – 40:31]

• Karen Bass on LA's Decline:
  A segment featuring LA Mayor Karen Bass inadvertently highlighting the city’s downturn, leading to Rob’s biting commentary:

  • “Yeah, because you made it into a craphole.” (Rob Carson, [38:37])
  • “So done with your nonsense.” (Rob Carson, [38:50])

• Healthcare for Illegals:
  Brief digression to mock HHS Secretary Xavier Becerra’s support for healthcare for undocumented immigrants, framed as “soft bigotry.”

  • "This is the soft bigotry of the Democrat Party. Move here and to serfdom and serve us in our gated communities." (Rob Carson, [40:31])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Virginia’s assault weapons ban:
  “You cannot just make what was legal yesterday and guaranteed by the Constitution illegal today ... screw you, I won’t comply.”
  — Rob Carson ([02:57])

• On Biden’s cognitive issues vs. Trump’s health:
  “If you’re concerned about Joe Biden’s age, you probably don’t know Joe Biden... Biden is actually in good shape.”
  — CNN Reporter ([09:47])

  “Look, if we’re not stupid…”
  — Rob Carson ([10:43])

• On pandemic relief fraud:
  “Never let a good crisis go to waste.”
  — Rob Carson ([16:49])

  “You can't have a system based on honor when one of the political parties is completely dishonorable.”
  — Rob Carson ([19:44])

  “We could balance the federal budget if the only dollars that went out of the treasury went to individuals who are properly, lawfully, correctly eligible.”
  — Guest/Analyst ([20:20])

• On military policy/Trump’s Iran moves:
  “Trump achieved what he wanted to do. It's an imperfect solution ... Eventually, I believe the people of Iran will take over the country.”
  — Fred Flights ([27:07])

  “I'm hoping ... for some sort of almost like a millennial peace that the Middle East hasn't seen in a while.”
  — Rob Carson ([33:55])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [01:20] Opening: Virginia prosecutors refuse to enforce assault weapons ban
• [06:10] Media coverage of Trump’s and Biden’s health
• [10:27] Biden’s gaffes and cognitive decline discussed
• [14:29] Jim Gossett satirical Biden parody song
• [16:35] COVID fraud segment; government vulnerability
• [21:54] U.S. military policy toward Iran; beginnings of Fred Flights interview
• [23:15] North Korea nuclear weapons; tying to Iran
• [27:07] Debate on ending hostilities with Iran
• [31:26] Iranian disinformation & media coverage
• [33:28] Trump’s Abraham Accord expansion praised
• [34:38] Flights’ new book on North Korea policy failures
• [37:56] Karen Bass segment: LA’s decline, CA social policy
• [40:31] Closing: Satirical critique of social policy

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Conclusion

This Rob Carson Show episode delivers Rob’s trademark irreverence as he dissects current events: from government overreach and liberal hypocrisy to global security concerns. There’s plenty of satire—especially around Biden’s health—and a substantive, informed segment with Fred Flights on international nuclear threats and policymaking blunders. Carson’s fast-paced style, pop culture references, and willingness to attack all forms of bureaucracy keep the show as engaging as it is controversial.

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For listeners who missed it: Expect robust right-of-center critique, quick-witted humor, policy breakdowns, and a healthy dose of parody — all structured to inform as much as entertain.

Transcript

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[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

This is the Rob Carson show, hour number two of the show. I'm just doing show prep as we speak here and, and of course not muting my phone there. You, you know, I was talking to somebody over the weekend and, and I had mentioned that, you know, I have a hamster on cocaine between my ears. It never stops going. And she goes, yeah, I can tell. I can tell. Do you ever just rest and, and generally? No, not, not, not really. I did it over the Memorial Day weekend to some degree. But, but by and large, I'm, I'm always going. I've always got something going in the back of my mind and all of that, you know, because life is short. Life is short. But I was, I was doing a little digging over the. Over the top of the hour break before I dive into our number two of the radio program. Virginia prosecutors refused to enforce Spamberger's assault weapons ban, call it unconstitutional. I love this, this, this crazy cat lady from hell, Abigail Scamberglar, who lied about who she was to become the governor of the state and then immediately started ruling against the will of the people, tried to take away all representation of Republicans in this, despite the fact that Virginia was a colony that went to war over taxation without representation. And of course also, you know, they still have a Gasden flag version of the license plate in the state of Virginia. All right, so she thought she'd come in with this left wing nonsense that is spewed in counties that have been flooded with liberals from D.C. fairfax and Loudoun counties and thought she could just issue an edict to the entire state that we're gonna run the state like San Francis. And they're saying, screw you. So the Supreme Court of the state, through her attempt at gerrymandering Republicans out of representation, threw that out. A major embarrassment. And now a Marine veteran serving as a county prosecutor in Virginia has drawn a line against Abigail Scamberglar's newly signed assault weapons ban. Sending a former a formal letter to his local sheriff declaring the law unconstitutional cannot be lawfully enforced. He is not alone. A second commonwealth attorney, an Air Force veteran, has taken the same position. And I have been saying this on social media. You cannot just make what was legal yesterday and guaranteed by the Constitution illegal today. And so you, you call it gun control legislation, I call it gun suggestion legislation, because screw you, I won't comply. There you go. How about that? There you go. That's just it. You cannot just march in because you think you have some sort of a mandate and just decide to, you know, wipe your rear end with the second amendment. Ain't gonna work. Plus, I'll bet you, I'll bet you the number of, you know, assault weapons, AR15s and whatnot in the state of Virginia, you ain't got enough law enforcement to confiscate all of them. So honestly, take your gun control legislation and stick it. There you go. That's what I have to say. Cold, dead hands, baby. Cold dead hands. Especially in Virginia. What an over. Really, really way out over your skis. This, this woman, this insane, crazy cat lady, I mean with soulless eyes, unlikable individual, she really just shot her wide, man. That's a revolutionary and Civil war expression. It has something to do with the, the muzzle loading rifles in case you're eliciting hunter. So she's already shot her wad. She is a, she is a lame duck. Oh my God, the lamest of ducks. Lamest, lamest, lamest of ducks. So the CNN and, and all the, the liberal journalism outlets were talking about Donald Trump's visit to, for his annual checkup yesterday. And he's got a bruise on his hand and things like that, but he, you know, is busted his butt every day, flew over to China, had a, an incredible, you know, meeting with the, the Xi Jinping and then is travel world has a different press conference every day, has hour long, two hour long press conferences, allowing media to do whatever, doing campaign appearances all over the country. The guy is the ever ready bunny. I mean honestly, we've never seen anything like it. I, I like to say in the morning, I don't wake up, I get shot out of a cannon. I couldn't keep up with Donald Trump. There's no way, there's no way. You look at the campaign in 2024, three campaign rallies in a day while also having to sit in the courtroom. Persecution. And keep going and keep going and keep going. But of course, the, the left, they want to make it look like Donald Trump is really aging and he's really this and he's really that and it's all a bunch of crap. This is Wolf Blitzer.

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

This is CNN Breaking news.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

And we begin this hour with the breaking news. President Trump is over at Walter Reed, the national military hospital right here, and he's getting ready for his annual medical. And Donald Trump is 20 years my senior. And I want to be as sharp as this guy with this kind of energy at his age, because it is remarkable. Dental checkups. This will be the third visit of his second term. In a span of just 13 months,

[CNN Reporter]

the president turns 80 and just a few weeks and his health is coming under increased scrutiny.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Why didn't you worry when Joe Biden was the president and was showing the obvious signs of dementia?

[CNN Reporter]

Swollen ankles have prompted repeated questions from independent.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I got to tell you, the thing about, the thing about aging, for those of you who are a little bit younger, maybe, maybe you, you millennials and Gen Z, here's, here's the difference about when you're getting a little bit older is that you realize those little things that suddenly start happening to your body are permanent. It's, you know that knee, when you get up and it makes that sound, it's gonna be that way for the rest of your life.

[CNN Reporter]

And so have the president's frequently bruised hands. Sometimes those bruises are covered when you

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

shake a thousand hands a day, for God's sake. It kind of happens with makeup. You're looking at pictures for moments ago of President Biden arriving at Walter Reed Hospital for his annual physical. Now this is routine. Yeah, would be. It's routine medical and dental checkups. We should note that he's been to his dentist twice already this year. They haven't said whether he will take a cognitive test. They also said whether he goes under any anesthesia for something like a colonoscopy, which would of course. Yeah, it is remarkable, the double standards. As my friend Chris Plant likes to say, if it weren't for double standards, liberals would have no standards at all. Donald Trump said yesterday, just finished my six month physical at Walter Reed Military Medical Center. Everything checked out perfectly. Thank you for the great doctors and staff. And then of course, over on cnn, they, they say things like, there's this guy who wrote this piece, Kevin Liptak, Lip Tax Report, discussed how even a clean bill of health may not ally public concerns about Trump's health. I'm not worried about his health. Are you, are you worried about Trump's health? The only thing I'm worried about is some jackass actually succeeds in trying to kill him. All right, that's what I, that's the only concern I have because I think the guy is in incredible shape mentally and physically. I mean, he is only said 224 pounds. Hell, I'm six one and I weigh 240. I lift weights. Thank you. But, but still, here is some more of this lip tech. Yet even though Trump is a louder and more visible presence than Biden during his presidency, he still travels less than he did during his first term and has on multiple occasions closed his eyes for long stretches during on camera events. If you had his schedule. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? Unbelievable. Meanwhile, here is, here is the media when Joe Biden was the president. Now you may recall, I don't know if you know this, Joe Biden displayed all of the symptoms of cognitive decline. And you know, I know that because I'm not stupid. There you go. Yeah. Because I'd also seen it in aging relatives growing up. My mother would invite them to live with us. They would in their final years. And I would watch this decline frequently dementia and, you know, even worse. And so I'm quite familiar with it. And there's no turning it back, by the way. But here is the media. If you're concerned about Joe Biden's age, you probably don't know Joe Biden. It's not just making an issue of Biden's age. It's lying. It's saying he's senile, saying he's demented, saying he's out of it. Biden is actually in good shape.

[Guest or Co-host (Agreeing with D)]

Right.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Mentally, he's quite acute.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

Any aid.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Who, what, what would give you that impression, by the way, as he fell up the short stairs and, and couldn't put together a thought. And then of course, the deb engages

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

with him or reporters.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

We can see this, the gears of

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

his mind are working the right way.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Media has so fixated on Biden and Biden purportedly having cognitive issues.

[Fraud Task Force Representative or Analyst]

Russian television has been filled with speculation about President Biden's.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Okay, I think I need to find a little sound bite here to kind of put it in perspective. Let me see here. Here it is. Yeah, Here. Here's some proof.

[Joe Biden (Audio Clip)]

Making sure that we're able to make every single Sol person eligible for. What I've been able to do with the. With. With the COVID Excuse me. With dealing with everything we have to do with.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Look, if we're not stupid.

[Joe Biden (Audio Clip)]

We finally beat Medicare. We find finally providing housing for black Americans. The impact of. On the. The choice. The idea that they're gonna. I'm like I proposing that everybody. They pay. The millionaires pay 1%. 1%. So no one. After. I've not raised the cost of Social Security for anybody. I got my handicap, which when I

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

was vice president, he was the President of the United States. And Jake Tapper said that he knew nothing of Joe Biden's dementia until after Joe Biden was pulled from the presidential race, replaced by Kamala Harris. And then, of course, Jake Tapper wrote a book about. How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?

[CNN Reporter]

It's very clearly a cognitive decline.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable.

[Guest or Co-host (Agreeing with D)]

You are.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

No, I can't. That's so amazing. It's so amazing to me that. Try and figure out an answer. A cognitive decline. Biden embraces his stutter. Talking about wasn't a stutter. I don't think that was a stutter. That exagger. Porky Big had a stutter that belittles it. He's sharp physically. I mean, mentally.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I think the question is physically. Right.

[Guest or Co-host (Agreeing with D)]

Right.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Or so.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Right.

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

Right.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

And the guy who is his chief opponent is only three or four years younger than him. I mean, you. I'm just amazed he still has a job. Biden sues the DOJ to stop the release of the audio and transcripts tied to a special counsel probe. Joe Biden sued the Justice Department on Tuesday in an effort to block the release of audio recordings and transcripts of the former president's invest interview with a ghostwriter that were obtained by the special counsel who his handling of classified documents and decided not to prosecute Joe Biden for the mishandling of classified documents because he would have been. A sympathetic jury would have felt so sorry for him because of his cognitive decline. And issue is the case audio recordings and transcripts. Biden's interviews at his home in 2016 and 17 with Mark Zwanitzer, who worked with Biden on his two memoirs. The files were scrutinized by special counsel Robert her as part of his investigation into the president's improper retention of classified documents. So he's either sharp as attack and guilty of mishandling classified documents or he's guilty of having classified documents and wouldn't be prosecuted because the jury feels so sorry because his brain is pudding. So there you go. But Donald Trump has a bruise on his hand and that should disqualify him. It's so glorious. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. But in most places on earth, they believe that your rights come from your government and from your laws. But ours was founded on the belief that your rights come from your creator and from God. Here's a little refresher course on the the president that preceded Donald Trump.

[Joe Biden (Audio Clip)]

I've taken three significant and intense neurological

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

exams by the neurologist and they were not able to find anything, I mean, literally nothing between his ears. No, sir, just pudding.

[Joe Biden (Audio Clip)]

In each case as recent as February. And they say I'm good shape.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

I don't think that there is a huge cover up underway here and I frankly don't think that matters. He is sharp, intensely probing and detail oriented.

[Political Commentator or Guest]

Yeah.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

This is why the one of the many reasons why the Democrat Party's not going to win in the terms. I think we need to bring back one of our popular songs for when Joe Biden was the president.

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

I'm afraid that poor Joe Biden his faculties are sliding yes, it's a sad

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

refrain this is Jim Gossett on the

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

edge Watch him teeter he would be a better leader if he only had a brain that non existent hand he's shaking and all the gaps Joe's making His supporters can't explain But Donald Trump's

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

got a bruise on his hand when

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

he speaks It's a gamble I bet he wouldn't ramble if he only had

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

a break he closed his eyes during

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

a meeting oh, I can't tell you why Joe Biden somehow got elected just hope November 8th he and his kind will be rejected Joe Biden, he's so dense he doesn't have the sense to come in from the rain no, he

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

would drown if he looks up at

[Rob Carson (Show Intro and Interjections)]

the sky he's worse than Jimmy Carter But I bet he'd be much smarter

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

if he only had a brain There you go. That's Jim Gossett. Jim Gossett, ladies and gentlemen. He's brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. I worked with Paul Shanklin with the Rush Limbaugh program for many years. Nothing against Paul, but Jim Gossett is Prolific and amazing. And if you want to help him out, go to patreon.com Jim Gossett com and I mean that really is difficult to, to get work as a conservative performer. During the Biden administration he lost a lot of speaking gigs and comedy gigs and he's friggin Brilliant. So. Patreon.com Jim Gossett Comedy Massive, massive, massive fraud. I mentioned that we're gonna find out that the United States is more corrupt than the Soviet Union, the former Soviet Union ever dreamed of being, except for we have $7 trillion to spend. And man was I right. This is Keith Sutherling, he is the acting director of the Department of Labor talking about what the Democrat party did during COVID increasing the size of the federal budget by 40% and then looting the treasury.

[Fraud Task Force Representative or Analyst]

So during the pandemic we saw around $900 billion go out to really help Americans that had lost their jobs. Sure related to the pandemic. But looking back out of that $900

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

billion, never let a good crisis go to waste.

[Fraud Task Force Representative or Analyst]

Over 135 billion of that was stolen.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I'll bet it than that fraud taken

[Fraud Task Force Representative or Analyst]

from the American people, taken from the tax people. And it was done through sophisticated criminal rings.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

135,000 million dollars of our tax money.

[Fraud Task Force Representative or Analyst]

It was also done just by people who were completely taking advantage of the systems because we rely on the states to do a lot of the identification and verification checks. And what we saw was fraud was rampant. The money was just going out the door, nobody was checking. And we're tired in this administration.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

They looted our treasury. They just, just looted it. Just walked in, took it all. Like in what was the second Die Hard movie, bringing the dump trucks in and the, and the little front end loaders, little bobcats loading the, the gold bars into those dump trucks, covering them up and then heading out toward, you know, towards the underwater aquifer bridge. You know, that's the way it was. Stephen Miller was talking with JD Vance yesterday at a presser about the fraud task force that JD Vance is in charge of. And he says that the fraud is much than we ever imagined.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

This is the fastest in history that a government task force has traveled from creation.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

This is why the Democrat party created the Elon Musk is a Nazi nonsense over a year ago, burning Tesla dealerships, saying that he was somehow a Nazi. And when he was no longer in charge of Doge, suddenly he's not a Nazi anymore. Generally when you're a Nazi, you're a Nazi.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

Kind of like Graham Platter, your typical Lead time is going to be a year of meetings before anything happens. And that's if you're lucky. And within weeks of this task force being established, we've seen the largest ever slate of indictments, recovered funds, search warrants, raids, seizures, investigations, and new legal actions to stop, disrupt, and prevent fraud. What we've learned, which is not surprising to those of us who spent some time in this area, is that fraud is every bit as bad as President Trump said it was and even worse, hence the protests. So, in other words, everything we found either confirms our worst fears or exceeds them.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah. Here he is talking about why this happened.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

All of the systems in our country, whether you're talking about voting, whether you're talking about entitlements, whether you're talking about welfare benefits, were set up based on the honor system. They're set up based on the idea,

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

which means that people who are dishonorable can take advantage of it.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

You could trust the average person, through their own morality to abide by the rules and comply with the law. And so the way most welfare works in most states and most places is we take your word for it. If you fill out a piece of paper and you say your kids are hungry, you are going to get food stamps.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Or if you say you're a legal citizen and you can vote, yeah, sure, go for it.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

Check as a country, if you even have kids.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, you see, you can't have a system based on honor when one of the political parties is completely dishonorable.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

And so what's happened to our country is we became a society, as you've seen, with the Somali refugee problem in Minnesota, where you have a large number of people that are not following the honor system. They're not playing by the rules, they're not abiding by our laws, and the amount that has been fleeced from us is in the hundreds of billions of dollars. I believe, based on what I've seen and what I've heard, is that we could balance the federal budget if the only dollars that went out of the treasury went to individuals who are properly, lawfully, correctly eligible.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Wow. That's amazing, isn't it? Yeah. We're $38 trillion in debt, and a good share of that is because people stole it and we have to pay for it. Let's take a break and come back. Fred Flights joins us next. Don't go anywhere. Hey, guys, it's Carson for Ghostbed. I am sleeping better than I've ever slept in my entire life. Life. I used to think a mattress was just furniture, but I got a ghostbed. Ghostbed doesn't build mattresses like furniture. They build engineered sleep systems. Their beds are serious health equipment. Beds designed for relief and recovery, not looks. Your body should be healing while you sleep, not fighting for comfort. I noticed immediately my first night on a ghost bed. I slept for 10 hours. If you're waking up stiff, tossing and turning, sleeping hot, even reaching for a pain reliever before bed, hoping tonight will be different, that's not aging. That's your mattress talking. Here's another thing I love about Ghostbed. You get 101 nights to try it at home. If you don't like the difference, you send it back risk free. Ghostbed is currently having their Memorial Day sale plus an extra 10% off for my audience. Go to ghostbed.comcarson and use promo code carson ghostbed.comcarson promo code carson for the sleep of a lifetime. The question is not do we want Iran to be defeated? Yeah, everybody wants Iran to be defeated. The question is, do we approve of how Trump is conducting this war? That is what I think.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

It's seven presidents too late. Every president that preceded him since 1979 has failed to do something very essential, which is take on the mullahs in Iran and stop them from being able to project.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah. That is Abby Phillips, of course, with an intellectually lazy argument saying that I don't have a problem taking out the ayatollahs and taking down the Iranian regime. I just don't like how Donald Trump is doing it. Donald Trump has made the most decisive action against the Iranian regime ever since the Ayatollah took over. It is, it is so just intellectually bankrupt to taste such thing. It's, it's really just, it's lazy is what it is. Joining us on the Newsmax hotline to discuss these things and so much more, Fred Flights. He is a senior fellow of the American First Policy Institute, also the author of a brand new book, North Korea Nuclear Brinksmanship and the Oval Office. Fred Flights, how are you doing today?

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Hey, good to be here, Rob. Pretty good.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Hey, man, I'm kind of jacked about this book here. We'll get to it. But it looks like I get a nice endorsement from Gordon Chang about this. Every American president from George Bush on with word mishandled the Kim regime, which of course made the Kim regime kind of the same kind of garbage that happened with the, the Ayatollah in, in Iran.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Well, I mean, we need to talk about this because North Korea now has 50 nuclear bombs. Yeah, that's what Trump wants to avoid with Iran, not to wait till it's too late, 100%.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

And this is easily. I won't say easily, but. But we're on the brink of that. And unfortunately, we have a Democrat Party that is so hostile that on day one, the first day when we killed the Ayatollah, you had a senator named Chris Murphy saying that it was, the operation was a disaster. And a Democrat party and liberal media that is openly cheering for our defeat.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Well, Trump put this really well yesterday in a truth social. He said if it was full military surrender by Iran, the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, CNN would call that a masterful and brilliant victory by Iran over the United States. And he's right.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

You know, it was bad when after, you know, 9, 11 and George W. Bush sent our troops into Iraq and you had people like Dick Durbin, who Rush Limbaugh called Dick Turbin, saying that the war was lost and that that took months. That took months. It's like, it's like Democrats with school. It used to take days before they start screaming for gun control. Now they do it before they've recovered the bodies. The same goes with our military actions under Donald Trump. They immediately disparage the efforts of our troop and literally root for our allies to win, our foes to win.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

So, I mean, what Trump's trying to do, and I think he tried to do as a Cabinet meeting today, is basically get the word out, this is a defeated state. This isn't like the Obama appeasement of Iran. Their military has been destroyed. Their capability of making missiles, their nuclear program has really been set back. They may have big mouths in their PR department in Iran. And we have to stop being fooled by them. We have to stop listening to them. This is not a nation in a position to negotiate.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

You're not in a position to demand anything. That's one of the things I like to say. When you've got, like, college students demanding that the university they go to divest in Israel, you're not in a position to demand any. Anything. Sit your ass down and shut up. You've got the. The Supreme Leader, the cardboard gay ayatollah, not been seen in public, but he is. He's declaring that death to America and death to Israel would become the rallying cries of the Muslim world while vowing that the Jewish state was nearing the final stages of its existence. That is not a regime that is negotiating for peace in good faith. Dear God.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

That's right. It's why this war began. And they're also threatening to expand the war worldwide. They're already at war with us worldwide. This is a country that's been trying to assassinate Donald Trump for at least eight years.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah. I want you to hear General Jack Keane last night talking about doing a deal with the people in charge of Iran.

[Guest or Co-host (Agreeing with D)]

Now, see, Iranians, we know for a fact don't abide by treaties. They've been a party to the non proliferation Treaty for years. There's signatures to it and that means, you know, you don't acquire a nuclear weapon. What have they been doing for the same amount of time that they've signed that treaty is trying to acquire a nuclear weapon. So they blew that treaty off. So what we come up with here, the Trump administration and our negotiators who are aware of this have to make certain that whatever the Iranians are going to say, we have to make certain. And that is actually what is happening. Not what's on a piece of paper, but what actually is happening.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I don't think there's any negotiating with them. I think we've got to wipe out the ircg. That's all there is to it. We can't leave a single hanger on and we've got to replace that regime has got to be replaced with freedom loving people in a more secular government. What do you think?

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Yeah, but there's no way to do that unless we invade the country. Trump won the war and we've won the war. We stop hostilities, we're free to stay at our moves, we begin negotiations of the nuclear program. You know, if we don't do that, we're going to lose the Senate in November. Trump achieved what he wanted to do. It's an imperfect solution. Eventually, I believe the people of Iran will take over the country. But Jack wants to keep the war going. He wants to expand it. I don't agree.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

You don't agree that despite these you've got, you've got right now, you've got supposedly active peace deal going. Death to America. Death to Israel. The shaken Zionist regime and the cancerous tumor of Israel are approaching the final stages of their wretched existence. You're saying that we can leave a seed of that after we negotiate some sort of peace deal?

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

We have to stop hostilities and free the Strait of Hormuz, understanding that the remnants of this regime is going to be around so the Iranian people overthrow it and the only way we can overthrow it is with ground troops, which we're not going to do. Trump achieved his objectives and I think it's time to get out. The American people want this war over. And I think that this is frankly, a problem we're going to have to monitor and deal with. We need a mowing the grass strategy. When they threaten nearby states, when they start building, building nuclear sites, we attack again. But in the meantime, this war has to end. The American people don't want this continuing one day further.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Well, I, I understand the, the war fatigue argument. We've been warned about that forever. It didn't seem to matter with previous administrations. I know you're concerned about the midterms. I don't think the president is so concerned about the midterms. He has realized that Iran is a threat and he's going after them anyway. But what about, you know, Israeli intelligence has been involved here. How, who's going to be in charge of Iran? How are we going to deal with people who still are espousing this nonsense? Are we going to give them the money that we have, their frozen assets? Because you know what they're going to do with it? They're going to build up their forces again. They're going to send money to their terrorist proxies once again. And we're back to square one for Fred.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

We may have to release some sanctions to get them to stop the war, I'm afraid. I don't want to see them getting payments from the United States or plane loads of cash like Obama did. But I think we are going to have to find a way to wrap this up. We can't continue the war indefinitely. If we can find a way to secure the straight of Hormuz and stop attacks on neighboring states, that's a starting point. We then have to stand with the Iranian people, support their efforts to take this government down.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah. Fred Flex, I want to continue the conversation on the other side of the break and include Donald Trump telling other Arab states to join the Abraham Accords to really put the hammer down on Iran, which I think was a pretty genius move. So I want to continue with that. Also, talk a little bit about your new book again. It is called North Korea Nuclear Brinksmanship and the Oval Office. Fred Flights. Let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson show,

[CNN Reporter]

New this hour. Iran's state TV is putting out what it claims is a draft of the initial framework with the U.S. now, there are a number of points in here that appear to be very out of step of the US Red lines. So take this information with a very large grain of salt. But Iran is claiming, claiming that the memorandum of understanding would have the US Withdraw forces and lift the naval blockade in exchange for Iran restoring commercial traffic through the Strait of Hormuz within a month with all ship traffic managed by Iran. They further claim if a deal is reached, it would become binding with a UN Security Council resolution. We have heard no updates from the

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

US Also asked the United States to acknowledge that unicorns are real and they want the letter S removed from the English language. Language. That's the kind of stuff that they're dreaming about. It doesn't sound like Iran. I think, Fred Flights, that their hubris, their pride in their hubris is getting in the way of the ability to make a deal with them.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

They're shameless liars. None of that is true, but CNN reported it as it was. As if it is. So does the New York Times. And Iran knows that they're deliberately creating confusion. They think they can hurt Trump politically by floating these ideas. Maybe that'll pressure him to settle, maybe it'll cause him trouble. But it just goes to show how difficult it is to negotiate with this group. And as you sort of alluded to earlier, we don't really know who's running the country. I'd like to see a proof of life of the Supreme Leader, assuming he's actually alive or conscious.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I think what they'll do is they'll do a puppet show instead of a press conference rather than the cardboard Ayatollah, they'll just do a puppet. They'll do the sock puppet show featuring. It's just, I mean, Fred, I just have a feeling we're gonna have to end up dropping some bombs on him. That's the way it's gotta be, bro. I mean, we could go with this. This is just, this is just mental masturbation. This back and forth. This, you know, we'll meet next week, we'll talk this week, we'll do this. They're playing us. They think they're playing us. And I don't think Donald Trump is gonna be played forever. I'm actually quite surprised at his patience to this point. Allow allowing a seven. What, seven week cease fire while they're doing this nonsense to us.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

I think there may have to be some pretty significant military action. And Trump will then dictate the terms of a settlement. He's not going to negotiate with what's left of this regime and let them play these games. Basically, this is it, guys. Or we will attack you yet again.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, and they're hurting financially right now. The, the, the blockade is still going on. And then Donald Trump, Trump decided as a part of this to include other Arab states in a kind of an Abraham Accord to keep their hammer down on, on Iran. So, so basically getting other Arab states involved to help out Israel, to help out the United States. And did you, what did you think of that move?

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

I thought it was a brilliant move and it recognizes the reality that Arab states now realize that Iran is a dedicated enemy that had repositioned missiles and drones to attack them. It was always going to attack and they have no choice but to form a new alliance to defend themselves. They can't look the other way anymore, try to appease Iran. Iran does not, is not interested in being appeased. It wants to have its way through violence. The best way to deal with that is to have an alliance with Israel.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, I'm hoping, like I said, I have a feeling they're going to have to do the power plants and bridges, get them to the table and then I'm hoping and this is not easy for some sort of almost like a millennial peace that the Middle east hasn't seen in a while. And if anything, it would be at least a united Middle east against Iran and its terror proxies and neutering what it's done for the last 47 years worldwide. Now, you got this book and you've written a number of books. This one is called North Korea Nuclear Brinksmanship in the Oval Office. What motivated you to cover this at this time in our history, other than I guess, what you mentioned earlier, which was we can't let Iran become North Korea.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

Well, I've been working on this for over 12 years, so it predates this administration. I wrote a lot of it during the pandemic. And it reflects my work working on arms control, nuclear non proliferation for the CIA and the State Department. And I just saw Republican Democratic administrations repeatedly make the same mistakes about the Iranian and North Korean nuclear programs. They would appease them. They wouldn't realize how serious they are. The deep state would undermine Republican presidents career diplomats wouldn't follow their instructions. The same mistakes over and over again. And while that happened, both nuclear programs soared. So this book, and it looks at the North Korean nuclear program from Eisenhower through the end of the Biden administration is going to be very helpful to try to set the record straight. I'm hoping to get this into university libraries and I have a second edition coming out in December. Member on Iran's nuclear program that goes through April 2026.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

North Korea is a very unique cult of personality where society has been groomed to believe almost that the people in power are religious figures. You know, when. When Kim Jong Un died, or was it Kim Jong Il? I always forget which one is which, but died. The mourning, the self flagellation, all of this, the people are completely controlled from birth till death to worship the great leader. So it's quite a different situation than we've dealt with. Probably actually closer to Iran than the Soviet Union.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

That's exactly right. It makes them harder to deal with. But of all the presidents who dealt with North Korea, Trump, I think was the most successful. His policy wasn't completely successful, but you may remember twice, 2017 and 2018, we were looking at a possible war with North Korea. North Korea tested a nuclear device in September 27, 2017, with a yield 250 kilotons. That's 10 times more than Nagasaki. And Hiroshima bombs, bigger than anything Pakistan or India exploded and scared the hell out of the Chinese.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

And then Donald Trump went and met him at the. I'm trying to remember the name of the line of demarcation. There you go. Yeah. And he met them there. And we'd never seen anything like this. And it was the velvet glove covering the iron fist.

[Guest or Co-host (Agreeing with D)]

Right?

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

That's what Donald Trump did. Velvet glove covering the iron fist. The book is called North Korea Nuclear Brinksmanship. The Oval Office. I would assume there's something in there about Madeleine Albright and a basketball signed by Michael Jordan.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

There's a picture of Madeleine Albright clinking champagne glasses with Kim Il Sung a long time ago. And you could read about this on my personal website, Fred Flates.com where I have a lot of the reviews.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Hey, Fred, I really appreciate your expertise on all these things. Best of luck with the book and thanks for finding the time for us today.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

My pleasure. Thanks much.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

All right, let's take a break and come back. This is the Rob Carson Show. Karen Bass inadvertently wrote an ad for Spencer Pratt for mayor of LA, and she pointed out out what 20 years of Democrat rule has done for the the state and like 50 years of Democrat rule has done for the city.

[Karen Bass]

Well, the LA that I grew up in, first of all, was a lot cleaner. There were not people sleeping on our streets. The city was actually affordable. You could rent an apartment, work part time and go to school. So it was a lot different. And I am so hopeful, though, because our city has grown to be such an international city. And I love that everybody in the world lives here and our city is much more diverse.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

No, it's just diverse. America's diverse. Been in diverse a very long Time you didn't usher any diversity because we've always been a great American melting pot.

[Karen Bass]

So please than it was before many more people. But unfortunately the city isn't affordable now.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, because you made it into a crap hole.

[Karen Bass]

And we do have people sleeping on our streets. Which is exactly why I ran for

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

mayor because I haven't fixed a damn thing.

[Karen Bass]

Know how our city and you let

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

the city burned down can be.

[Karen Bass]

And we're gonna get there again.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, we're gonna do it eventually. I mean we've been promising this for decades but by God, this time we're gonna do it. Oh bullcrap. Honestly. So done with your nonsense. Nonsense. And here's Ave Basera. He was what HHS secretary under Joe Biden and presided over the COVID disaster and cover up. And here he is espousing as a governor tail candidate and he will never be the. He will never be the governor of the state of California. He's not going to do it. Neither will Katie. Mrs. Potato Head. Never going to be. Never going to be the governor of the state of California. But anyway, here he is espousing free health care for illegal. If you're working hard, I want you

[Political Commentator or Guest]

to have health care. I guess Steve Hilton doesn't care if they work really hard. He looks at their status and that's about it.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Well, he says, yeah, if you're illegal, you can't have free health care and stuff, you see, because you can use your, you know, whatever country you came from, health care.

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

They broke the law. He says that he immigrated here illegally and, and that spending money to give somebody health care is incentivizing bad behavior

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

because it has actually brought in hundreds of thousands of people from the meth lab trailer park of the world, Somalia.

[Political Commentator or Guest]

He doesn't seem to mind that the price of food is a little lower because these are the folks who are picking the crops.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

Yeah, because you know what? You can't be somebody coming across the southern border unless you got a leaf blower strapped to your back and your name is Consuela and you're a daycare operator or whatever or a, or maybe they're come here to live the American dream and not just serve you.

[Political Commentator or Guest]

He doesn't seem to mind that the places that you can buy to live in are places that these folks built. He doesn't seem to mind that they're the folks that are taking care of probably one of his relatives, probably taking care of his, his yards. He seems to mind that they don't have documents, but he doesn't seem to mind that they do so much of

[Fred Flights (Guest, Senior Fellow, Author)]

the work in California.

[Guest or Analyst (Discussing Fraud Task Force and Iran)]

Wow.

[Rob Carson (Main Host)]

I gotta tell you, this is the soft bigotry of the Democrat Party. The soft bigotry of the Democrat Party. Move here and to serfdom and serve us in our gated communities. That's the American dream. We'll give you free health care. Yep. Let's take a break and come back hour number three of the Rob Carson Joe's right ahead. Don't go anywhere.